gameplay-help

[stark quiver]

i never did strongholds until i was strong
whichis questionable

[knotty jolt]

i mean, repair packs can't fix the debuff when a ship sinks

[plain saffron]

i don't think that's stupid

[late flame]

i never touched opsi until i had a fleet of 120s so i did lose* out on quite the few (gold) plates lol

[plain saffron]

you need to remove toll of war unless you prefer fighting without skills

[silent hearth]

oh yeah? i used the regroup and rest on the siren bosses 2 times a row on the same boss. Before i found out about the hidden mobs...

[knotty jolt]

Don't worry i did that too

[rain bobcat]

when opsi launched you needed quite a strong account to clear it since we only had shinano so it was basically 457 on all "good" SSR BBs

[knotty jolt]

iirc this was before unicorn got her retrofit too so perseus was best in slot for healing

[rain bobcat]

was still clearable though just had to cope a bit

[sweet delta]

I used Izumo gun

[viscid swift]

OpSI used to be much more difficult on release but then they nerffed it hard like a week in

[rain bobcat]

yeah it was kinda ass early

[plain saffron]

i remember back in my day people call percy op 🧓

[knotty jolt]

we just bear with the suffering

[rain bobcat]

I barely cleared c6 bosses even when I had a pretty good acc

[plain saffron]

and the adapts doesn't work

[rain bobcat]

percy recommendation for campaign goes hard

[late flame]

-# truly held together by duck tape and prayers - amen

[rain bobcat]

think I had JB to preload on mob

and used the ol monarch howe warspite on one of the teams as well

[silent hearth]

Im waiting for Azur Lane 2 🙏
sure ive only been playing the game for a month but you can FEEL the age of this game. the spaghetti code probably would give most coders a nightmare.

[knotty jolt]

i remember as howe, duke, and KGV

[viscid swift]

ain't happening with Azur Promilla

[rain bobcat]

game is fine just need an opsi update for one and in a few more places

[knotty jolt]

opsi update will come with playable sirens
Source:Trust me

[viscid swift]

I'd argue not, the game has plenty of issues to fox just with the QC and bugs

[silent hearth]

eh ive heard of it, no idea what it is. is it supposed to be the sequel?

[plain saffron]

AL 2 but it's only the skins and no gameplay(they fixed it by removing it completely)

[viscid swift]

and not to mention the complete lack of semi consistently rotating new hard content

[plain saffron]

diff game by same company with no relation to AL

[rain bobcat]

playing AL back in '20 was holy cope

[viscid swift]

completely different game

[silent hearth]

bet it ran better though! hahaha

[rain bobcat]

imagine needing to do 20 clears to get to d3 and then manually farming d3

[plain saffron]

it was worse

[silent hearth]

really? holy gods i couldnt imagine.

[rain bobcat]

50k points through pure desparation

[viscid swift]

yes no oil caps, no auto search, no research queue, etc

[rain bobcat]

7-2 to get gold back for pulls manually

[soft raft]

XP books didnt even exist until like 2023 or so

[plain saffron]

back in my day we need to click everything manually

[rain bobcat]

dorming to like lb2 and going up the ladder farming maps lmao

[viscid swift]

OpSi shop was an RNG mess

[rain bobcat]

🤝 2020 gaming

[silent hearth]

oh yeah, im sure the QoL is way way better. i meant the loading and whatnot. i spend half the time on loading screens. i feel like it runs smoother on my phone then my PC, but i would say thats probably bluestacks. but the game feels abysmal sometimes

[rain bobcat]

it was still 1 pool monthly but rng was just an ass

[rain bobcat]

thats bluestacks' fault

[silent hearth]

howed you lvl skills?

[plain saffron]

in terms of performance it should be worse iirc, though sometimes they fucked it up

[viscid swift]

same as we do now

[soft raft]

that's different

[silent hearth]

oh you meant the instant popped ones

[rain bobcat]

same thing for skills but everything else was manual including research gold exp

[plain saffron]

back in my day we have some micro stutter when you go to home screen

[soft raft]

I'm talking about ship lvl XP

[viscid swift]

oh yeah weekly oil pack wasn't a thing either

[rain bobcat]

well that was kind of ok

since we had to manual literally everything only tryhards would run out of oil frequently

[knotty jolt]

Our oil and coin mail storage didn't exist either, thats actually a very recent thing

we had to store everything in the mail as individual letters

[viscid swift]

yep, not that was a particularly big issue

[plain saffron]

introduction of auto search caused devs to notice some people abusing a certain game mechanics, so they added weekly packs and clearing rewards

[rain bobcat]

oil is just a problem now because farming is much quicker

[silent hearth]

.> looks at the always empty mail bank mmk...

[viscid swift]

nah, there was a good chunk of time where autosearch was a thing and oil caps weren't

[knotty jolt]

Personally I wish for more canteen upgrades for more oil

[rain bobcat]

autosearch was in for a good year before oil cap iirc

[viscid swift]

not quite

Autosearch was January 2021 or so, Oil Cap was October or so that year

[rain bobcat]

[viscid swift]

I'd only just gotten to W9 when oil caps dropped

[rain bobcat]

I was slugging through w13 with vestal and akashi

[silent hearth]

howed the impliment it? was it just like "oh hey guys! btw...GET FK'ED"? lol

[viscid swift]

what, it was just added

[hollow gust]

[silent hearth]

ah no announcement, just a straight raw-dog. lol

[rain bobcat]

ch1-9 being 1 time clear now is like wtf to me lmao

[plain saffron]

ouh yeah my bad, it was not search mode, it was exp data pack

[viscid swift]

well it was obviously in the patch notes

[hollow gust]

there is no downsides to auto...

[rain bobcat]

im seeing people reach ch13 within 1 month

[viscid swift]

which are released a day or 2 beforehand

[plain saffron]

people feeding packs to ships to retire for coins

[silent hearth]

im just imagining them doing that in a newer game like Nikke. the sh!tfit people would throw would be epic lol

[topaz smelt]

only skill issue

[hollow gust]

people are hitting ch13 in a month cause all the ships are busted as fuck

[viscid swift]

why, these are all solely benefits to the players

[plain saffron]

idk why people will complain though when it's a good features?

[rapid shard]

Managed to fully clear W13 in 5 weeks of playing lol

[hollow gust]

why the fk would people complain about only a beneficial feature, that just sounds stupid

[plain saffron]

also it was in patch notes but of course EN can't read

[silent hearth]

Naw i was thinking of the oil cap as in how much oil you could have at one time. bleh im tired and sick.

[topaz smelt]

Ppl don't play this game for the god awful gameplay, they're here for the skins

[hollow gust]

oil cap is a net positive too???

[rain bobcat]

no

[viscid swift]

well

[knotty jolt]

I just realized we're derailing help channel so hard

[plain saffron]

not the storage cap

[late flame]

lol

[viscid swift]

half of us are here because it's a collecting game

[rapid shard]

Oil cap is max cost limit on a stage its a massive benefit.

[rain bobcat]

oil cap is the cap at which your fleet cost is subjected to no matter their real total cost

[silent hearth]

yeah it hit me that you were talking about the oil cap for stages too late lol

[plain saffron]

collecting and maxing ships

[rapid shard]

12-4 is 951 for x3 sortie if memory serves. Where as same fleet on a non cap map is 85ish per fight

[lean valley]

Gameplay is honestly kinda fun - but I'm also a person who likes the setup of fights more than the actual fight for the most part

Well, fun for what it is anyway

[silent hearth]

look ive downed about half a bottle of niquil and am hallucinating slightly. gonna pass out in my chair any minute.

[plain saffron]

it's fun once per 3 months when new META showdown drops

[rapid shard]

Getting 1st and 3rd star on hard 12-4 first run was a massive hit to oil.

[topaz smelt]

I only enjoy this game like once every 3 months

[viscid swift]

Also how do I gear Mutsuki

[dry ice]

[plain saffron]

lvl 1 skill 🚮

[dry ice]

You don't because you should never use her

[viscid swift]

she main tanked for a while in 12-1 and OpSi

[rain bobcat]

does the mutsuki ex guy still exist or is ex bullshit now

[rapid shard]

Least im.not only one sitting on 250ish oil right now lol

[dry ice]

And my ranger made it through 15-4 hard mode (unreleased)

[silent hearth]

yeah but that gold doe. im eternally broke.

[dry ice]

Took me 67 resets per map at minimum though

[rain bobcat]

100k aint much

[red hawk]

youll hit points where you can't do a lot with limit breaks and stuff and you'll start to stack gold u

[viscid swift]

I'm only this low because of rerolling cats

[rain bobcat]

thats like 5 awakens or 10 cats

[red hawk]

and then costs will come and you'll yoyo

[hollow gust]

no point caring about ex mode after they made a easy as fk mode for the playerbase

[silent hearth]

i always have like 10 things begging for money. i grind up like 40k and its gone within a hour.

[topaz smelt]

you shouldve seen when shima came out

[rain bobcat]

would've been funny if the top EX guy was still a mutsuki manual player

[red hawk]

I go from being softcapped to broke to back pretty quick just depends where my spending goes, or what I'm focusing on doing

[topaz smelt]

mut was pretty easy cuz high speed

hard mode was doing shit with cow

[rain bobcat]

I spent 300k gold and 300k oil to gear my entire dock and I only got around 200 ships in out of 800

[silent hearth]

If i wanted to soley grind money should i do a cheap 1-1 fleet on 12-4? or is it just a dumb waste of time?

[viscid swift]

just use full fleets

[red hawk]

just grind 12-4 while levelling

[rapid shard]

Speaking of gear tho. Finally got aurora the other day and im lvling her currently. Does she need any specific gearing or just normal crusier setups?

[rain bobcat]

a cheap 1-1 isnt doing much better than a full oil cap fleet

[viscid swift]

just normal gear

[rain bobcat]

at best its only 10 oil less a run for the price of 4 ships worth of exp lost

[viscid swift]

well more than that

gold gain literally scales with oil used

[silent hearth]

yeah im just wondering if a common or rare 1-1 fleet within minimum limit break would work, or if thats still just a dont bother type of thing.

[viscid swift]

you're not gaining the same amount of coins running a 1-1 fleet

[rain bobcat]

thats not surviving

[viscid swift]

you're earning less coins

[silent hearth]

oh?

[topaz smelt]

anything with oil cap is dont bother fuckign around cuz its gonna be worse

[rain bobcat]

is 15-4 the most efficient gold farm now or 14-4

[silent hearth]

i know commander XP and cat XP is based off oil spent, is the coin gain too?

[viscid swift]

yes

and no commander and cat XP is not based off oil spent

[silent hearth]

well that blows. good to know before i wasted a day of oil and time

[viscid swift]

commander XP is based on the number of ships used, partially

[main patrol]

does homing beacon stack?

[viscid swift]

no

[topaz smelt]

can you even equip more than one

[viscid swift]

yeah

[topaz smelt]

never tried

[viscid swift]

no

[main patrol]

was there another gear for cv's that reduced loading time besides homing beacon?

[viscid swift]

no

[hollow gust]

just use faster planes

[topaz smelt]

messershit

[viscid swift]

just get more reload tech/better cats

[topaz smelt]

breguets is the answer to everything

[main patrol]

besides collecting ships, was leveling ships to 125 the only way to get more tech?

[viscid swift]

120

[rain bobcat]

125 has no tech

[viscid swift]

and oathing ships gets you more reload

[main patrol]

faction tech already maxed so guess lvling to 120 is the only way left

[viscid swift]

and you can get more reload from cats

[silent hearth]

120 and MLB

[viscid swift]

you don't get stat bonuses from MLB

[rapid shard]

MLB only gives faction fleet points

[silent hearth]

for tech points?

[rain bobcat]

tech is collection and 120

[viscid swift]

not what we're talking about

[main patrol]

was the 120 tech only per each unique ship or doesnt matter if dupe, only gotta lvl to 120?

[viscid swift]

once per unique ship

[main patrol]

[rain bobcat]

its like 600k oil for CV rld+hit

[viscid swift]

use this to keep track of your progress
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[silent hearth]

im confused, isnt tech points nearly the same thing as fleet tech? You get tech points which gives you fleet tech?

[main patrol]

for bb's, besides AFCT what was the other reload reducing gear?

[topaz smelt]

now if only someone would write a dock extractor

[rain bobcat]

admiral fire control table

[hollow gust]

Is I-404 supposed to lose to flasher in mobbing

[viscid swift]

when we say tech we mean the perma stat bonuses

[rain bobcat]

true

[topaz smelt]

reasons why i clearly define faction tech and fleet tech in my guides

[silent hearth]

Right, and you get tech from fleet tech right? if you get a CV (most i mean) to 120 and MLB it gives you tech

[rain bobcat]

well you could probably write a bot that auto screenshots a window on your pc and uploads

[viscid swift]

tech points yes

you get tech points from obtain, MLB, and 120

you get fleet tech/perma stat bonuses from obtain and 120 only

[ivory pawn]

There's also stat bonuses, which are also commonly called called fleet tech, which is only from obtain/120.

[rapid shard]

Nothing from retro right?

[viscid swift]

nope

[silent hearth]

yep i see. im looking at the fleet tech stuff right now. i had it in my head each fleet tech point gave a tech bonus too. bleh

[viscid swift]

no

[silent hearth]

yeah i get it now.

[main patrol]

there a way to import from game? so many ships to click thru

[viscid swift]

no

[silent hearth]

i thought you had that +1 ect on each line. im just trippin balls.

[main patrol]

pain

AL has so many ships

[silent hearth]

800 or so is a lot but the vast majority is bloat with commons and rares right? i dont know what the % is so just a pure guesstimate.

[topaz smelt]

i think its becoming ssr skewed

[main patrol]

yee, so many. so so many

[topaz smelt]

wouldnt be surprised if theyre the majority by now

[silent hearth]

duuuuuuuuuude thats so cool! im trying to figure out how to import

[main patrol]

gotta manual

[topaz smelt]

you dont

[viscid swift]

you can't from in game

[red hawk]

you have to build it manually

[main patrol]

i may as well make a spreadsheet lol

[viscid swift]

you wouldn't

[late flame]

after a while i stopped caring and just went with vibes for levelling lol

[viscid swift]

I just use the favorites tab as my own personal filter for leveling tech

[rapid shard]

42 commons
110 rares
326 Elites
272 SRs
25 URs per the wiki

Not counting PRs/DRs

[silent hearth]

wow only 42 commons and 110 rares? id have thought it was a lot higher. probably because those little suckers like to fill up my dock space like rats.

[main patrol]

huh, more elites then rares

[viscid swift]

they haven't released any new commons or rares in almost half a decade

[rapid shard]

Its been a long ass time since they've added a gray or blue. Hence the difference in amounts

[fierce crater]

anyone else encounter this? restarting the game doesnt help

[rapid shard]

Every event usually has a elite or 2 plus 2 SRs

[viscid swift]

desync, restart the game

[main patrol]

has it really been that long since a rare?

[silent hearth]

restart computer

[viscid swift]

just the game

[silent hearth]

dont just restart computer, shut down and power up

[fierce crater]

should i do a flip too

[viscid swift]

yes, last was Marblehead or something

[main patrol]

do a clean install too just to be safe lol

[viscid swift]

have you tried fixing and repairing assets

[main patrol]

/jk

[silent hearth]

i mean if you want? you asked for help lol. when i run into glitches and a simple game restart doesnt fix it a full power down/power up fixes it

[fierce crater]

tryin a repair rn

restarting emulator was NG sadly, rather not do PC reboot

[rapid shard]

When you restarted the emulator did you do a full instance kill through task manager?.

[fierce crater]

i'll double check that

[late flame]

this being a help channel kindly refrain from posting meme images and such'

[rapid shard]

Usually I need to force kill the whole program when I get weird errors. Usually sorts it out. Its probably just caching too much data

[silent hearth]

its also not the tech support channel but fair enough lol. i just thought it was funny hed rather run a repair then just a simple shut down and restart

[fierce crater]

cause im busy with other stuff. Also rebooting asystem shouldnt be required for this. I am an IT admin

[late flame]

thanks

[silent hearth]

eh probably the reason why restarting my computer doesnt fix it and i have to run a shut down. ill try that next time i glitch.

[fierce crater]

reboots a last line thing, there usually is a better fix elsewhere

[rapid shard]

^^

[silent hearth]

waiiiiiit...your a IT ADMIN....and your asking for IT support? without having done the basic steps first?

[fierce crater]

yep, i had not encountered this, also using a new emulator. Not bad to ask others whom may have seen it before I go down the rabbit hole

[rapid shard]

Just because you work in IT (I do as well) doesnt mean you know everything about every system or program out there

[silent hearth]

but...hangs head nvm. i would have given it a little effort at least lol. hell even i managed to fix my issues without asking for help (i asked in the tech support once because its been happening every few hours for weeks now, until i figured out how to fix it on my own)

[wind hazel]

iirc that's a bug, one of your active ship got sent to commission (idk how dont ask me) causing that bug

[silent hearth]

and im a truck driver XD

[inner delta]

why are you making a simple question a big deal, just stop

[fierce crater]

this is what I was thinking

Yes she somehow is out on a sortie

Much more logicial explination then a reboot

[main patrol]

unironically, if ur collection is quite complete then better to bulk select all then deselect ones you dont have and then do 120 or not

[silent hearth]

yeah i only have around a dozen at 120 or above so far, so its not worth the effort to bother with it yet. i thought there was some way to import it directly without the hassel XD

[topaz smelt]

you spend 5mins to do it once

[rapid shard]

Easier to do now then later when your sitting at twice the total amount of ships

[fierce crater]

I'm probably down to 50-60 ships remaing to lv 120

[main patrol]

it took, what 6 years for us to reach almost 800? prob another 8-10 for double that

[silent hearth]

then you have to go in there and keep track of it manually right? i play half the time on my phone, the other half on my computer, i dont see a log in or anything so i would need to track the list on 2 seperate devices. it just seems like too much of a hassel ATM when i need to get everything up anyways. when i start getting a few dozen ships up then ill probably start taking the time to do it shrug

[topaz smelt]

youll take like 5s a week to update it

youre not gonna 120 ships that fast

[silent hearth]

not important enough to me to bother yet. i have less then 1% of ships at 120.

[rapid shard]

Cognitive chips will hard limit you quickly unless you whale

[topaz smelt]

am i the only one getting a surplus of chips

[silent hearth]

yeah so far its not been an issue but im already starting to hesitate to let some of my ships awaken. my stash has emptied too quick T.T

[rapid shard]

Once you start leveling 5 ships at a time they disappear really fast

[silent hearth]

i boosted a new fleet up this week, i had like 8k chips b4 week reset and im down below 2k already sigh

[viscid swift]

Join the club, got 80 or so ships waiting to be uncapped to 120

[rapid shard]

You only get enough to fully 120 one gold a week or so strictly from daily raid rewards. Not factoring other incomes sources but they are small or expensive. Least that's how its been for me lately

With a little leftover

Checked the wiki for you in case you was curious. To awaken a ship to 120 the cost of cognitive chips is below and you only get 210 a day from daily raid (highest level one that is)

Grays - 660
Blues - 880
Purples - 1320
Gold - 2200
Rainbows - 3300

[silent hearth]

eww 3300 for a rainbow? well i guess its not too too bad, but that is a bit gnarly.

[rapid shard]

Thats also not including coin cost as well lol you do get a nice pile of chips starting out but they quickly run and you'll be very low from that point on.

[silent hearth]

yeah i have no idea what i had starting after buying the 70 boost bundle but i am starting to get to the "hmmm...maybe i dont really need to awaken this ship yet" stage.

[lean valley]

Farming 12-4 at least helps get a few extra a week

[rapid shard]

Just so your aware once they hit 100 they can store 3mil xp which is enough to hit 120 once you awaken them fully

[silent hearth]

ive only seen cogs drop a handful of times for me T.T

[mint flint]

you get like 7.5k a month + various other rng sources

[rapid shard]

Ive been running 12-4 6-8 times a day and only getting about 100ish more a day.

[topaz smelt]

comms can prob get you like 50-100 more per day

[silent hearth]

ive ran 12-4 probably like 200 times in the last week and i would swear ive only seen it give me cogs mby 5-10 times. either RNJesus hates me or im not keeping track very well (the later is more likely TBH)

[weary gust]

7.5k cog chips a month sounds super low. I would have estimated at least double that..

[viscid swift]

chip shortages are just something we all have to deal with

[mint flint]

yeah 7.5k doesnt take into account 12-4 + comm rng

• guild shop + events

its just a baseline you're guaranteed to get

[silent hearth]

i started the game halfway through the last event sadly so i didnt get half as much as i could have from the shop T.T

[topaz smelt]

i feel like comms arent counted into that

[main patrol]

took half an hour to update tracker. wowzers

[rapid shard]

Doing some quick math with max level daily raid its only 5880 a month give or take a day or two, 150 from monthly login and the handful from free weekly pack. Not counting events shop pop ups or commissions cause its a bit RNG on that

[topaz smelt]

a bit but they do make up a significant portion

[plain saffron]

wish i could share the auto dumper i made

[rapid shard]

Event rewards and event shops definitely help boost it quite a bit if you do those but only 100% income is the daily and monthly logins and weekly pack. So 6500ish a month

[topaz smelt]

just make an alt and dump it

[mint flint]

not sure why a month would ever be less than 28 days, but you also get 1k from core data monthly

if you do 30 days daily raid + core data you get 7.3k a month

but theres also cruise missions

hence 7.5k baseline

[rapid shard]

True but newer players have much higher prio purchase than chips from core shop for quite a while before thats a smart choice

[silent hearth]

use core data for cogs? blasphemy.

id rather use REAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL money.

[topaz smelt]

you run out of places to spend core pretty quickly

[lean valley]

You can pretty much buy both shells + cogs each month

And aside from collection that's more or less the critical stuff

[forest palm]

you run out of things to spend Core Data, Merit, and Medals of Honor

[silent hearth]

yeah when your commander needs his shipgirls to change his diapers mby. yall a bunch of old farts at this point lol

[forest palm]

you do run out of things to spend Core Data, and Protocores realtively quicker than Merit or Medoals though that is true

[viscid swift]

I'm still a zoomer/new player

[mint flint]

im still baby

[lean valley]

Merit and medals at least have bulins, so they have a way longer shelf life

[forest palm]

I think I'm one of the few vets here that can claim they've been around for 7 years, a lot of others have been playing probably 4 or more and have reached a similar state to me

[weary gust]

Medals you get way more per month than is worth spending, merit is a good sink for a while yeah.

[topaz smelt]

the game only has catchup mechanics

[late flame]

joined AL near end of dec 2022 and even i've run out of shit to buy for the most part

[forest palm]

exactly

[plain saffron]

if my account created during old UI, can i claim?

[silent hearth]

do you get diapers along with your weekly packages?

[viscid swift]

Which old Ui

[plain saffron]

old old

[forest palm]

I do miss the old ass UI

[viscid swift]

We've had so many UI updates at this point

[topaz smelt]

end screen update when

[forest palm]

I also miss when we had 6x HM runs

[plain saffron]

but we had one already

[topaz smelt]

i actually dont, i still only do 1 a day

[weary edge]

we have? ui looks exactly the same as it did 6 years ago for me

at least in battle it does, i dont rly remember what lobby looked like

[topaz smelt]

i dont call making my clear times longer an update

[viscid swift]

You are very forgetful then

Or you just never payed attention to it

[weary edge]

payed 💔

[rapid shard]

Shop UI just completely changed like 2 months ago ||current one is shit compared to old one||

[forest palm]

the shop UI is still ass to me

[plain saffron]

my fav part of UI updates is when they discards all the custom changes they made for EN client because they have longer texts etc and now we have things like Shop Shop and Dockyard Dock

[topaz smelt]

ive gotten used to it and i still hate it

[plain saffron]

Unobtaina
ble

[topaz smelt]

getting to guild shop is easier tho ill give it that

[viscid swift]

Don't we all

[weary edge]

battle ui still looks the same tho

[viscid swift]

Gotta love it when a pointless and unnecessary UI update is made that makes things worse

[topaz smelt]

lmk when they update opsi

[viscid swift]

Who said anything about the battle Ui

[weary edge]

me

[plain saffron]

idk why they don't use the cruise pass UI with dark color schemes

[forest palm]

would pay for a retro UI (2018 UI)

[weary edge]

like, right here lol

[plain saffron]

they both have same designs but diff colors, one is hurt to look at

[weary edge]

that's also something i still remember, the retrofit screen still looks the same

[topaz smelt]

just wait for them to get an ai to design the next generation ui

[viscid swift]

We're very clearly talking about the lobby and shop

[weary edge]

yeah and im very clearly talking about the battle ui like what lmao

[viscid swift]

But even the battle Ui has received updates, just not as many or so drastic

[topaz smelt]

idek whats changed in the battle ui

[weary edge]

nothing

[forest palm]

retroactive, not retrofit la...

[plain saffron]

we have more battle UI

[mint flint]

you can pay to change the battle ui

[topaz smelt]

last i rmbr was new uis breaking things

[viscid swift]

Just the new style as a whole, though I keep the old one

[plain saffron]

i would use old one if they fixed the skill banner

[weary edge]

idk i mean ui is fine for me since i started playing again like over a month ago so i think it's just a matter of not being used to it and disliking change

[plain saffron]

old, My Royal Sab

[mint flint]

oh when did they change the "unobtained" thing in the shops again

[plain saffron]

last patch

[weary edge]

that literally happened like a couple days ago lol

[plain saffron]

though why not use NEW like before and why is it at the right side when every other one is at left side

[viscid swift]

No clue

[mint flint]

at least its readable now

[plain saffron]

[viscid swift]

Though we have established this development team isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed

[topaz smelt]

how long til they properly give us +13 stats

[weary edge]

speaking of which r any of the core ships good aside from independence

[viscid swift]

No

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[plain saffron]

go work at yongshi and fix it pls

[weary edge]

yeah ik ive seen this a million times but there still could be someone there that's worth using for me so im just asking

[topaz smelt]

i had to go undercover after 4 years to finally fix smol lusty

[viscid swift]

I barely consider Independence worth getting from there these days

[weary edge]

i got her and never built her lol

[viscid swift]

The others don't have a hope

[topaz smelt]

i think shes still good but the creep is catching up

shes one of those ships you cant go wrong using

[weary edge]

i already have a bunch of other cvs like enty hakuhou sara unicorn and aquila

but i only have like 2 useable bbs which r hood and oumi

[topaz smelt]

thing about bbs is if theyre not rainbow, theyre prob mid

[weary edge]

tryna build up fleet tech for fdg

[weary edge]

idk man oumi is kinda goated

[mint flint]

i thought oumi was good

[topaz smelt]

shes good but she aint rainbow

[mint flint]

doesnt she reach bottom level rainbow performance sometimes

[weary edge]

y is bro rarecist 😭

[topaz smelt]

urs just hit a new generation of powercreep

[viscid swift]

Oumi can match the lower end UR BBs

[rapid shard]

Oumi is comparable to NJ lvl dmg with correct gear setups.

[topaz smelt]

so that gap is massive now

[weary edge]

"disgusting purples will never be as good as us rainbows 😡 "

[mint flint]

unicorn:

[viscid swift]

Unicorn

[rapid shard]

Aurora

[forest palm]

doesn't help that most SSR designs kit wise have been stuck in 2019

[weary edge]

oh shit i meant to say golds lol

[viscid swift]

Helena for poor people

[plain saffron]

Saratoga

[viscid swift]

Aurora

[weary edge]

helena slander will not be tolerated

[topaz smelt]

Fuck Helena

[viscid swift]

No Helena in sighy

[weary edge]

is ur leeuw dev30

[viscid swift]

And I've failed Less than half a dozen times in total

[topaz smelt]

im at 100% win

[rapid shard]

Helena is good till you get options that are not complete RNG of the buff or debuff. Then you dont use her after that

[forest palm]

would be interesting if they made Helena 100%, though I feel like the game state would have to be fucked for that

[topaz smelt]

i 3 striked the boss once

[weary edge]

100% chance for 40% dmg increase is kinda crazy

[weary edge]

god they're just so massive

sorry what were we talking about i got distracted

[viscid swift]

I still prefer Z52 over Gouden for Yuudachi

[weary edge]

holy shit how do u have every pr8 already dev30

[topaz smelt]

i def prefer ply > traf as well

[viscid swift]

Ship focus, Yuni and a a few others finished like 2 weeks ahead of me

[topaz smelt]

[weary edge]

lowk pizza > murder

[topaz smelt]

has it hit 3 months yet since pr8

[viscid swift]

Nope

We're about to though

[topaz smelt]

so maybe im on pace

[weary edge]

bro it took me like 2-3 weeks to dev30 roon how do u manage to dev30 every pr8 ship in less than 3 months

that's crazy

[rapid shard]

Proper research focus

[viscid swift]

It isn't

[topaz smelt]

usually you finish a season in like 3-6 months

[viscid swift]

I just took a decent amount of cube researches

And I only had PR8 face researches showing up

[weary edge]

damn lucky

[viscid swift]

No

It's because I had every other season finished

[topaz smelt]

kinda standard for a cuber

[mint flint]

you just complete every ship so you dont get face researches

[weary edge]

oh is that how that works

[viscid swift]

And yeah this is about average for a cuber

As I said some finished a few weeks before me

[weary edge]

im sitting at over 300 rn so im trying to avoid using cubes for now

i only rly use it if i see soul forming or im low on everything else available

[forest palm]

I mean you'll have like 3 weeks to build cubes at this point

[radiant magnet]

for gear crafting, if the input equipment is levelled will the output equipment inherit the level?

[weary edge]

even then idk if ill pull for unzen

ill proly just get her gun

[mint flint]

plate refund, partial coin refund

[viscid swift]

No but you get refunded 100% of the plates

[radiant magnet]

ahh tyty

[spark patio]

any information about upcoming new or rerun UR?

[rapid shard]

Nothing official yet

Just that Unzen event rerun some time after fools scale

[spark patio]

Unzen rerun next year or this year?

[forest palm]

probably won't see Unzen till like Dec or Late Nov

[weary edge]

i lowk might not pull fools scale

[rapid shard]

No exact date yet

[forest palm]

could look at past trends I guess

[rapid shard]

Dec is usually new UR tho right?

[weary edge]

i heard all the ships r lowk just eye candy

[weary edge]

unzen will proly be early november

[forest palm]

it's typically late Dec

[spark patio]

so Unzen probably next year? like jan or feb?

[topaz smelt]

wouldve had it now if we didnt get this collab

[weary edge]

nahhh

yeah it kinda felt like this collab came out of nowhere

[forest palm]

it's sometime this year

[forest palm]

Fool's Scale would be running if that were the case

[weary edge]

like y they announce date live and then like this one so much time after

[spark patio]

200 pity like others?

[forest palm]

ya, but you get like 45 free pulls

[weary edge]

id assume so but u also get like 40 free pulls no?

i got hakuhou in like 11 pulls so

[lean valley]

Are those pulls free for coins too, or only cubes?

I'm more restricted on coins than cubes somehow

[forest palm]

it's a ticket which assumes all cost

[rapid shard]

Thats only for UR reruns right? Or will Fools Scale have that as well?

[forest palm]

SSR events have tickets as well at a lesser amount

[viscid swift]

Fools scales will as well

Check the wiki and look at past reruns if you're ever uncertain

[rapid shard]

Yeah i have checked Fools Scale and didnt see them. Didn't think to check other reruns lol there's no details to the EX for it tho. Is there any weird mechanics tied to this one? Dont have lion alsace comps to nuke it

[rain bobcat]

cheeky

do you have the rodneyM ijn timing sheet

[viscid swift]

No

[forest palm]

you won't see tickets unless the page is a rerun

[rain bobcat]

[stark quiver]

you fail?

[forest palm]

[quick mason]

Y'all can this be used for san Diego retrofit?

[rain vine]

you want a dd gun on san diego
the only use for that cl gun is shimanto before fate sim 5 to proc her skill

[quick mason]

But that is a CL gun

[rain vine]

san diego can equip dd guns, and there are good dd guns that have higher dps

[rain bobcat]

as a general rule a CL that CAN equip DD guns is usually better off with using a DD gun unless they specifically need a CL gun for their skill

[grave mantle]

San Diego retrofit deals much more damage with fast shooting dd gun, if you have her augment. Her barrages become the main source of damage

[quick mason]

So this a no?

[rain bobcat]

I would never use that CL gun even if it wasn't sandy, it's only purpose is for shimanto before fate sim 5

[quick mason]

I literally need to replace this

Whats good main gun that can be bought in proto shop

[rain vine]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips/id/21440
do you have this?

[rain bobcat]

you definitely have other DD guns you can use

also I would never buy random shit from protocore if ur not rich in the curency which for most cases newbies are definitely not rich

[quick mason]

Oh my god I had enough with purple

I'm no newbie

[rain vine]

rarity means nothing

[rain bobcat]

there's too many better options to buy from protocore

[sand igloo]

I'm a new player, I checked some guides but idk they didn't really help

[rain vine]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[quick mason]

Guess ill get the SAP

[grave mantle]

Slap a tashkent gun and it will be better

[grave mantle]

Twin 135 is also good for her, if you have materials for gear lab

[quick mason]

Im in 12-4 that's why I used san Diego

[sand igloo]

which ship type to build of the three?

[rain bobcat]

12-4 is pretty newbie by today's standards

[quick mason]

Gng I have 14 and I can get more

[rain vine]

1 light construction per day
save cubes for UR build events

[quick mason]

Since you don't know I just come back because my phone was broken and no storage

[sand igloo]

ok and don't normally construct for UR pity according to the guide right

[silent hearth]

Holy god what BB weapon allowed the enemies NJ to spam a barrage every 5 seconds?

[rain vine]

for the permanent UR pity, yes, there is 0 reason to rush it

[grave mantle]

You can't get that

Enemy weapons can't be acquired

[silent hearth]

my torps nuked their 2 other main, i watched their NJ spam barrage after barrage every 5 seconds or so. (im talking about in exercises...)

[rapid summit]

What research projects to choose for certain gear?

[grave mantle]

I thought you met NJ in OpSi...

[rain bobcat]

u sure its NJ lol

[silent hearth]

yeah had the same wedding skin that i have/had. it was nuts dude.

[rain bobcat]

a max reload NJ with hoodgun and 2 autoloaders probably cant even fire more than once every 10s

[spark patio]

is the new CL worth using?

[weary gust]

If you're a new player, maybe.

[silent hearth]

could have been 10 seconds, she fired probably 3-4 times and killed my vanguard then flattened my main by herself with only a anchorage vanguard standing

the anchorage i understand, the evasion buffs are yummy but i shat a brick when i saw NJ just steamroll my entire team by herself.

[humble tapir]

whens the next ur event gna be?

[rain bobcat]

dec

[humble tapir]

i see

[silent hearth]

.>

[grave mantle]

I've never seen barrage NJ...

[silent hearth]

she shoots out black shots. i might not be using the right term shrug

[sand igloo]

this sounds stupid but how often are the UR build events?

[silent hearth]

looks like just black cannon fire X3

[quick mason]

This kind of AP shells works right? :D

[rain vine]

every couple of months for new URs
reruns of previous URs are scattered in between

[sand igloo]

in the "events" tab right, just to confirm

[quick mason]

When bismark zwei runs?

[grave mantle]

I just checked, NJ always fires extra barrage 10s after battle starts

[quick mason]

Damm did I accidentally skipped her?

[silent hearth]

yup i know. i just felt like she was spamming a fk ton into my team. i had nuked her other 2 mains with torps and airstrikes then their NJ just pop pop pop and i was dead lol

[grave mantle]

Yeah, that was tough. You can also try to do the same, maybe that actually works well

[rain vine]

she will be added permanently maybe around June 2026

[grave mantle]

I'm sad because I missed York2 and Implac reruns... And a lot of first-time UR events

[silent hearth]

i actually threw my 406 skc/34 on my NJ, she seems to be doing better with it then with my oumi. she gets about 10-15% more damage off with it vs a mk6/10

[hazy olive]

Soooooo is the Kawakaze worth getting from Merit shop

[silent hearth]

i just need to focus on leveling up the rest of her skills now and she will be a beast now that i MLB'ed her. im only at 7/4/4 RN

[spark patio]

laffey 2 and guam after unzen?

[rain bobcat]

thats because ur facing weaker enemies still

[grave mantle]

Good luck

[rain vine]

do you already have eldridge and her retro item?

[silent hearth]

probably, but thats not gonna change for a while. im not gonna both finishing chapter 13 for at least another month or 2, and even then im gonna continue farming 12-4

[hazy olive]

Nuh uh

[grave mantle]

She brings heavy torpedo damage for Light enemies. Decide yourself, do you need it and can you provide team for her

[rain bobcat]

typical barrage focused DD thats pretty nice for w14 dps

[hazy olive]

I’ve had fantastic luck in getting meh SRs, with the exceptions of Oumi, Asama and Noshiro

[silent hearth]

ouch, didnt get Oumi? thats a shame

[hazy olive]

Oh no I mean she’s one of the few strong SRs I got

I got seven of them. And four Hakuhous.

[grave mantle]

You can always get a DDG, they are quite good

[rain bobcat]

noshiro is quite mid, also pulling enough to get 4 haku sounds like it's either god's plan or a horrible financial decision

[hazy olive]

70 pulls for the first three, another thirty for number 4

[silent hearth]

ah ok, i read that you didnt get her. shes one of the top damage BB for certain* fights. but only when the enemy boss will sit in her extended secondary range.

[hazy olive]

I started about two weeks before the end of the banner.

[rain bobcat]

luck off the charts ig

[hazy olive]

Gonna swap Asama out for Unzen me thinks.

Whenever I get her

[silent hearth]

same for me

[grave mantle]

I would personally leave them in one team. Unzen tank and asama off tank. And put somebody squishy with good damage between

[hazy olive]

Oh, so replace Portland with Unzen, and keep Helena

[grave mantle]

Asama is a slightly weaker Ibuki, as I understand

[silent hearth]

pretty much, but she has a nice CA torp buff.

[hazy olive]

Right now I’ve got Impero (mid), Hermione (shit), Le Terrible (mid), Noshiro (okay), Reno (shit), St. Louis (good but idk where to put her) and the two crossover ships.

Then there’s Saratoga, who I got told to retro ASAP with Nelson

[rain bobcat]

aquila is about the best SSR you have mentioned so far apart from oumi

[modest mesa]

hello, i'm using this to fight 14-3, but the mob fleet (fleet 2) isn't doing well
they got wrecked because too many red enemies lmao

[hazy olive]

Yes but where do I put her when Hakuhou-Unicorn-Oumi is fleet one

[grave mantle]

Aquila is best secondary healer, so she fits in niche for higher worlds

[hazy olive]

Shoot sorry I said Aquila instead of Impero

[silent hearth]

Hakuhou is a bosser, Unicorn is a mobber

[hazy olive]

My bad

[rain bobcat]

first use aquila/volga/kaludia instead of bismarck

2nd, read this guide https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief

[grave mantle]

Impero? I would replace Haku with Impero for mobbing. Because Haku would never deal damage before fight ends

[hazy olive]

This is what I’m working with

Is Retrofit Saratoga good, I’m like almost there, same with Nelson

Finally reached world 9 and figured I ought to get a fleet 2

[rain vine]

saint louis is good, but not in that state

[modest mesa]

yeah i went through it earlier to figure it out what works from my already leveled up ships
just didn't go as well as i has hoped
because now i'll have to go level up aquila lmao

[hazy olive]

Yeah figured I needed to upgrade it to max

[grave mantle]

Retro Sara is solid mobbing CV. She has barrage which is basically her firing ghost gun like an extra CA

[hazy olive]

So is Nelson worth retrofitting too?

Impero-Nelson-Saratoga could be a fleet 2, no?

or I could use that almost MLB’d second Oumi

[silent hearth]

this is my opinion, mind you im as new as you are. but my boss fleet main would be Oumi-Hakuhou-Saratoga and my mob would be unicorn (then get independence from the core monthly) and a a decent BB. Oumi isnt a bad mobber either tbh so you could use your second for that until you find a replacement.

[rain bobcat]

raise ryu lion

[grave mantle]

He can use Impero until he gets Independence

[hazy olive]

aight

[silent hearth]

again i heavily recommend a second opinion before you jump the gun

[rain bobcat]

what world are you in

[hazy olive]

goddamnit I spent 1600 cores on the big shell things

[silent hearth]

independence retro is fantastic though, shes got a very fast rld with a decent amount of planes

[rain bobcat]

I would stick to using oumi hakuhou unicorn ryu lion/portland helena laffey single fleet until after clearing ch12-1 before farming up a 2nd fleet

[rapid shard]

White and black shell is fine pickup. You can throw those on oumi and they will be good for a while

[silent hearth]

^ what Ayaya said. i was looking again and you kinda dont have the levels for a second fleet yet. 12-4 is a fantastic leveling spot once you get there though

[rapid shard]

Just follow fleet Ayaya gave you and follow the gear guide and you'll be just fine with what you got till W12

[hazy olive]

Is Laffey higher damage than Asama?

[modest mesa]

i just went to double check and what i have is even worse than i expected
aquila 89, volga 71, kaludia 106 lmao
guess i'll go back to 14-2 until i got them leveled up?
until now i only slap who i like or what i have to clear maps lmao

[grave mantle]

You made me interested, never got the Indy. Though she would probably sit in dock since my mobbing fleet heavily depends on what I'm researching right now...

[grave mantle]

Laffy2? Maybe. Definitely not the regular Laffy

[silent hearth]

honestly i didnt get her retro/lvled until just recently and now shes a goodie.

[hazy olive]

Alright.

lol I just have a level 77 Erebus and Leander sitting around for shits and giggles

[rain bobcat]

if anything I would rather use portland helena ryu lion over asama

[rain bobcat]

just run 12-4, don't bother farming ch14

[grave mantle]

His Portland isnt even retrofitted...

[modest mesa]

lmao
i'm trying to clear it for gems

[rain bobcat]

that's a dirt cheap problem

[silent hearth]

if you havnt, definetly try to get some of the shipyard ships. Anchorage is a priority.

[hazy olive]

I mean by the time I get to world 12, I’ll probably have Unzen so it’s fine, right?

[rain bobcat]

sure then, also ur vanguard is more or less the problem in ur mob as well as the lack of healing

[silent hearth]

where are you at ATM?

[hazy olive]

9

[rain bobcat]

I haven't used felix much but I don't think she's particularly the best option there

[modest mesa]

ahhh
okay, noted, thank you

[rapid shard]

Retro Portland while be fine to clear W12 with. You dont have to replace her till W13

[silent hearth]

he has uni, just stick that sucker in any mob fleet and she should be good enough to keep damn near anything that isnt too low level alive

[hazy olive]

Unicorn and Hakuhou is working well for me rn because they sync with Oumi pretty perfectly

[hazy olive]

managed to keep my level 20 Hestia alive in World 8

[rain bobcat]

do you have scylla or sandy or something

[silent hearth]

oumi triggers Hakuhou's passive so its pretty tasty

[rain vine]

it can get pretty dicey in 14-3 and higher if your fleet cant deal damage fast enough

[hazy olive]

So should I MLB my two LB’d second Oumi or retrofit Nelson?

[modest mesa]

yeah i have scylla, 103
i'm sorry but who's sandy??

[hazy olive]

Gonna MLB Ryu Lions asap

[rapid shard]

San Diego

[rain bobcat]

wait til you actually need to raise a 2nd BB but definitely nelson

[silent hearth]

@tom a lot of people would disagree with me suggesting to use real money but if you have the $15 to spare the best buy IMO that you can get is the PR/5 from the shop and use your ticket to get anchorage right off the bat. she is god-tier vanguard tank

[modest mesa]

oh san diego, yes, 125 lmao

[hazy olive]

Saratoga, Nelson and Impero will be good enough, right?

I know I don’t need it yet, but throwing them at commissions might be worth it

[rain vine]

thats not even the right season

[silent hearth]

oh god yeah PR/4 mb

[rapid shard]

Anchorage is PR4

[silent hearth]

lol, i got pr/4 and pr/5 for harbin too. so good @.@

[rapid shard]

His fleet is good enough and shes low enough cost where thats not needed. His current roster will be fine

[rain bobcat]

run smth like this for mob

[grave mantle]

I see all that Anchorage praise, then I look at my dock and understand that I don't have her and don't need her

[stark quiver]

why bad aa on sandy

[modest mesa]

guess i'll go throw oney at aquila lmao
brb

[silent hearth]

mmmm yeah but standing in one spot and just laughing while you take 0 damage is so fun.

[hazy olive]

Wait wait you can run two catapults?

[stark quiver]

why cant you

[rain bobcat]

cba to change, was already there when I opened renhex lmao

[wind hazel]

letting shimakaze offtank wtf

[stark quiver]

now some mf is gonna +13 the funni aa

[rapid shard]

Shima gonna be brutalized lol

[rain bobcat]

also couldn't be bothered to change

[modest mesa]

what about boss, is what i'm using okay enough lmao

[rain bobcat]

[hazy olive]

I ran a shitty shitty common fleet with Erebus, Shouhou and Ranger to get to level 60

the twenty oil cost was worth my best vanguard ship being Leander

[rain bobcat]

replace percy with bismarck than you just tossed and it should be fine

mb typo

[modest mesa]

but damn aquila's gears
i'm getting murdered for not doing the gear lab lmao

[stark quiver]

double hellcat works

[hazy olive]

look all I’m saying is my current fleet is 4 times that

[rapid shard]

Once you hit W9 you unlock oilcap

[rain bobcat]

if you cant afford it you can use 2 tigercat or 2 hellcat

[stark quiver]

2 hellcat

[grave mantle]

You can use gold corsairs from core shop if you can't afford anything from gear lab

[wind hazel]

where to get tigercat

[grave mantle]

Gear lab

[wind hazel]

well what do you know, that person doesn't have the mats! impressive solution to the problem

[grave mantle]

Tigercat just requires different resources

[rain bobcat]

I mean tigercat is techincally cheaper because of no ordinance but eh

[hazy olive]

Are these builds okay?

[stark quiver]

that might not be the issue

[wind hazel]

still not seeing the issue

[rain bobcat]

why does my discord embed images quickly but cant load when I tap on images

[grave mantle]

Isn't that Haku torp bomber converging?

[hazy olive]

Yea

[rain bobcat]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide skim through this, there are poverty options

[grave mantle]

Converging torps are not consistent without slow/stop

You have nobody to slow/stop

[silent hearth]

you want the ryusei kai in the first slot btw, she has increased efficiency for having a sakura gear in her first slot

ah sorry she has increased AVI for a sakura ship in the first gear slot, and has increased efficiency for it being a torp

[hazy olive]

What if I haul off a Tenzan from somewhere (pretty sure my Saratoga or Impero has one

[silent hearth]

or if you need more AA (which i dont suggest) you can run a bomber/fighter in the first slot. but either way it needs to be a sakura plane

[rapid shard]

Read the guide that was linked above for gear. You got a lot to sort out

[grave mantle]

Tenzan should be worse than ryu kai

[rain bobcat]

that's not even the right screenshot

[silent hearth]

fighter or dive bomber would just give her bonus AA

[split gazelle]

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you want ryuusei kai on 3rd slot cause she has more planes with close to same efficiency?

[rapid shard]

Plus that buff wouldn't do anything if the converging torps all miss...

[silent hearth]

i was pointing out the change that happens vs a torp

[hazy olive]

Okay so put Ryusei Kai in slot one, and then fling Unicorn’s Tenzan into slot three

Does Barracuda work for Unicorn?

[rapid shard]

Don't use the Tkai. Cuda is fine

[silent hearth]

no because of her skill 3 smouldering embrace

[wind hazel]

ideally yes, but newbies most likely won't have another converging torp bomber

[rain bobcat]

yeah you do on most cases for us but they won't have another converge torp or good TB on slot 1 otherwise

[wind hazel]

and in campaign you dont want converging on both 1st and 3rd slot

[rain bobcat]

rather do ryuusei kai 1st slot with something else on 3rd

[hazy olive]

I do have a Tenzan! But it’s on Unicorn, so I figure if I give Uni the Barracuda, it works out, right?

[modest mesa]

@rain bobcat so like this right?
fleet 1 is for boss, fleet 2 is mob

[wind hazel]

for campaign. if you need the AA, use reppuu

dont have saiun? use your ryuseikai

[rain bobcat]

should work fine yes flag bismarck. also, do you have 155kai for BB secondary? not completely needed but its way more consistent at killing the rammers compared to other guns

[silent hearth]

hes on W9 though, AA shouldnt really be an issue for a while right?

[wind hazel]

yes

[rapid shard]

Thats why he said if you need AA use repuu

[modest mesa]

155kai
uhhh, i'll have to check, sorry
i don't remember the names of most of the gears lmao

[floral latch]

Are meta ships worth to be put in service? I have.. Dunkirk, Yamashiro and Dewey

[rain bobcat]

the breguet band aid truly

[wind hazel]

some yes, solely for their fleet tech at lv120. most no

[rain bobcat]

there's a few ok metas but none are the ones you mentioned

[hazy olive]

I think I can hear lab up another Tenzan

[wind hazel]

dont lol

[rain bobcat]

yamashiro is worth leveling someday because of reload tech but thats it

[silent hearth]

nah dont bother, you will get plenty from boxes

[floral latch]

Oof, alright I'll ditch off the gears I already put on those three.

Ya know.. For some reason.. Shipgirls who become Meta.. Seems to be a little more... Cuckoo?

[modest mesa]

wait when you ask this
it's for soyuz right?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[grave mantle]

Love my baguette plane

[silent hearth]

eventually you will want to upgrade the tenzan to the tenzan kai though, its a very small upgrade and is a decent power boost

[modest mesa]

i guess this is what you're talking about?

[grave mantle]

That's non kai version

[rapid shard]

Gear lab upgrade for it

[wind hazel]

this is 155. 155kai is upgrade version of this gun, from gear lab

[rain bobcat]

this

[modest mesa]

ded

i don't even know where it is in the gear lab LMAOi

[rapid shard]

Sakura CL guns

[silent hearth]

if you really only have 1 tenzan and no other purple torps making a single tenzan through the lab isnt a terrible idea, but its not really necessary.

[wind hazel]

sakura empire>CL gun

[rapid shard]

Picture to help lol

[modest mesa]

wellll
yeah i found it, but i can't make it lmao
don't have enough mats

[hazy olive]

So purple barracuda is fine on unicorn right

[wind hazel]

yes, it's fine on every cv as a budget parallel torpedo bomber

[grave mantle]

Gold barracuda can be your friend for a long time

[rain bobcat]

its alright, 155 is fine its just less consistent

[grave mantle]

And you can farm gold cuda in war archives. Or through tech boxes

[rapid shard]

I am curious tho with Oumi now being a solid option would she still want 155kai for W14 or a DD gun for interception? Since she gets the range boost

[rain bobcat]

war archives is not recommended for farming outside of cheap grinding both muse events

[rapid shard]

Not sure if anyone has test consistency on that for W14

[hazy olive]

Is gold barracuda or gold Ryusei better

[rain bobcat]

155kai or the DD gun from USS is fine they both achieve more or less the same result

[hazy olive]

For uni

[grave mantle]

Gold cuda is used everywhere, gold ryu is used only when you can slow/stop enemies. Cuda is better

[modest mesa]

i just threw my boss fleet into a red enemy, because i've been using bismarck in mob fleet LMAO

but okay, i'll let you guys know my attempt went later

thanks for the help!

LEVELING UP TIME LMAO

[rain bobcat]

are you specifically dying to rammers?

well ur uni is also somehow 10 levels behind so thats that

you could replace ancho with a damage dealer tank

[hazy olive]

Unzen rerun

[modest mesa]

I'LL TRY TO GET HER
in her rerun
i screwed up so i didn't get her lmao

[hazy olive]

Praying my luck holds

It’s looking good because I only pulled like 30 times on standard and got 5 SRs

[grave mantle]

But what if you spent all your luck on it

[hazy olive]

I didn’t because I got a Hermione, a Le Terrible and a Reno

[fiery swan]

will the IX be added to special banner

[plain saffron]

it's a first so

[grave mantle]

I never used these ships, are they good? Or I could forget about them without problems?

[rain vine]

very forgettable

[bold surge]

a higher tier wood which can be obtained through assigning a character to the lumbermill and have it extract "workable wood". You might also need to research it first in the research tab.

[elfin hollow]

It's safe to retire muse ships after I get them for the collection, right? Assuming I don't care about the ships and they don't give fleet tech?

Ty

[queen frigate]

Anyone got a equipment tier list

[rapid shard]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[queen frigate]

Thx

[rapid shard]

Does this gun have any use or champ gun still better?

[wind hazel]

it's terrible

[sand igloo]

Any recommendations?

[wind hazel]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

buy pennsylvania, helena. use long island instead of lil zep

[sand igloo]

k ty

then I just push to chapter 9 right

[hazy olive]

Should I build Shouhou for heal

[hazy olive]

If you get a decent BB to replace Pennsylvania, do that

[red sapphire]

I did at the start and worked well, Unicorn works better

[sand igloo]

do I just rely on tierlists

[hazy olive]

You can but realistically, just about any reasonable BB is better than Pennsylvania.

Although I sorta lucked out with a Nelson and Oumi early on

[sand igloo]

did u do heavy ship rolls?

Ppl tell me to save my cubes

[red sapphire]

Save your cubes

[hazy olive]

Well, fleet 2 healer

[wind hazel]

you dont need healer for 2nd fleet

[hazy olive]

Save cubes, you’ll probably get a decent purple BB from campaign drops at some point, and if you don’t, events exist. You can go for the no-UR rerun or wait for Unzen

[sand igloo]

I understand the first half and not the 2nd

Thank God I played WoWS before this game, I actually know some of the ships

[red sapphire]

You may have a look at the BB ships that you can get from Medal shop. I used to play Hood until Lion was released

[wind hazel]

whenever there's a new event, you can come by and ask again "are ship XX worth pulling?"

though the next rerun isn't worth dumping your cubes on, so skip it

[hazy olive]

You just missed out on the Hakuhou banner because of the Oumi

Oumi is (I think) the best gold BB now

[peak fable]

Also wondering about this gun. The wiki says it has terrible DPS, but the numbers dont look that bad...

[wind hazel]

they are not guaranteed to get one so let's no talk about what has passed

[hazy olive]

I think the issue with quad guns is generally reload - you’ll struggle to get more than one off, and sometimes, you won’t even get the one. Correct me if I’m wrong.

[sand igloo]

so how long until I dump my cubes?

[rain bobcat]

you dont need a healer on a boss fleet for 98% of campaign and ur not at a point where you should build a fleet 2 either

[red sapphire]

You mean the right one?

[hazy olive]

Unzen.

[peak fable]

Yes

[rain bobcat]

oh forgot to reply to the msg but wtver

[peak fable]

That could be it

[sand igloo]

ok I'll hold on until I see that name somewhere

[wind hazel]

new UR event. even unzen, i'd just use free ticket, and save for new UR on December

[hazy olive]

yeah but the free ticket doesn’t get you anything worthwhile

[sand igloo]

free ticket?

[rain bobcat]

maybe I should make my 4th bismarck build lore acurate setup

[red sapphire]

The left one beats it on dps, and it's purple

[hazy olive]

No LB Shinano or NJ is going to be as useful as a marzipan brick.

[wind hazel]

yes and dumping cubes on Unzen might bite you in the ass because there's collab+new UR event in the horizon

[hazy olive]

You can build up cubes easily as a new player, so it might be worth it

[sand igloo]

how?

[peak fable]

I believe that, I just wanted to know why the golden gun is worse, because it does way more dmg and has higher fp

[hazy olive]

Hell, I’ve gotten a hundred in the last week and a bit, and I’ve already run through the handbook. Broadly.

[peak fable]

I know reload is worse, but not THAT much worse

[hazy olive]

You’ll see a few commissions with cubes

[red sapphire]

It has 9 sec more reload than purple

[wind hazel]

yes and we have collab AND ur event. there's no pity for collab event

[hazy olive]

And handbook. It’s up to you, but something meta might make your early game breezier

[sand igloo]

those two were given like top priority in the beginner's guide

[hazy olive]

Mori knows better than me though soooo

[hazy olive]

They’re in the free ticket. The issue is both are terrible until MLB

probably better off with a MLB Pennsylvania than a stock NJ

[sand igloo]

limit break?

[hazy olive]

Yea

[sand igloo]

alr just have to make sure

[red sapphire]

9 seconds is a lot. It's enought to make a big difenece. Also, the left one is commonly used for ships that barrage on main gun activation, as it has decent reload. That's why the purple is so good (and has more damage too)

[hazy olive]

DO NOT use your UR bulins on standard banner ships

[sand igloo]

There's different rarity bulins?

[violet grail]

The thing is you are not supposed to spend bulins on those from what I understand and wait to get more of them from regular pull pity, which takes a long time since you only do 1 pull a day to save cubes.

[rain bobcat]

the damage is dogshit simple as that

[hazy olive]

wait shit, should I use 406 Mk 6 or the dual 410 on Oumi?

[violet grail]

Yeah, purple gold and rainbow

[wind hazel]

mk6

when in doubt, go mk6, it's that simple

[sand igloo]

ok so what do "banners" mean?

[hazy olive]

what if Mk 7

[sand igloo]

I haven't seen it in any guide

[hazy olive]

The build

[wind hazel]

that's better, but if you have mk7 and still don't know what you're doing, there's something else wrong going on

[violet grail]

In the build menu, theres the light, heavy, special pulls, those are all part of standard banner and you should only use light.

During events theres also an event banner.

[hazy olive]

I presume I can just leave I-404 without LBs for a while, as with other subs

[sand igloo]

oh right so a 4th tab

[peak fable]

Okay I checked the numbers and you are right, also it gains WAY less reload and damage from upgrading it. Thats kinda fucked up lol

[red sapphire]

I would sugest 406 as I don't see any barrage on main gun activation and both are HE

[sand igloo]

for limited ships that u can't get normally through the ordinary ones

omfg it's so grindy do I srsly have to 3 star everything

[violet grail]

And rainbow aka specialized bulins should only be used on UR ships from those limited banners, not on standard banner Ultra rares.

[red sapphire]

Well that purple weapon is great in terms of damage 406 is better I think

[hazy olive]

No, but you probably will have to at some point for commander XP/unlocking Hard Mode for retro prints

[wind hazel]

you can skip 3* on w 2 or 3 etc. push until you cannot push anymore, then 3* that entire chapter. that unlocks the hard mode

[violet grail]

The thing is, early on you just focus on elite ships and even some rares since you can Max limit break those way faster. And they will be stronger than SRs and URs that you cant mlb.

[wind hazel]

though you might want to 3* the rest anyway to get retrofit blueprints for unicorn, but that's really far away for you, when she's at lv90

[hazy olive]

It all depends on how fast you wanna go. I got to level 60 in less than two weeks by no-lifing a Saturday with a shitty, shitty Erebus-Shouhou-Bogue/(MLB) Leander-Cygnet-Downes team

[wind hazel]

😂 ngl i have no idea wtf you're doing

[hazy olive]

(the real, real OG tips and tricks of “have a monitor and a shit team for oil purposes”)

[violet grail]

You can definetly leave the 3* of each level for later if you dont have the time.

[red sapphire]

I just checked the numbers and F8F Bearcat does more damage than Seiran on SSV

[hazy olive]

Oh it was basically an old trick I used during COVID, where I’d make a team with commons, monitors, and shit ships, to get very low oil costs, and grind away

[wind hazel]

but why

[peak fable]

Actually, what do I do with bad gold guns, just trash them or do i need them for gear lab?

[warm latch]

oil cap wasnt always a thing

[wind hazel]

yeah but that's not an issue now is it

[sand igloo]

how do I get gems from 3 stars even

[wind hazel]

you're diverting the exp into useless ships that don't help you progress

[warm latch]

but it was 5 years ago, which is when they did that thing

[violet grail]

Rewards in missions one time only for each level

[wind hazel]

you could have just grind here

[hazy olive]

Because my main team takes 70 oil a battle, and that team took 20. So I could grind commander XP

[wind hazel]

assuming you dont have ch9

[red sapphire]

I keep them because why not

[hazy olive]

wait…

Those are oil capped?

[wind hazel]

read above

[violet grail]

I did polaris pre W9 but I assume its about same difficulty

[hazy olive]

…

[sand igloo]

I didn't get any

[wind hazel]

somewhere around there yeah

[hazy olive]

Well.

[sand igloo]

even tho I full 3 starred Chapter 1

[hazy olive]

You learn something new every day

[violet grail]

The gems might be starting from later worlds, dont remember tbh.

[hazy olive]

Should I go for San Diego from medal shop

[wind hazel]

yes

[rain bobcat]

gems are from every single world

[violet grail]

Im getting close to retro on my sandy. Just missing 3 T2 retro blueprints, got everything else ready so probably will get it tomorrow.

[peak fable]

why are repair ships considered bad?

[rain bobcat]

no damage

[peak fable]

isn't it just a trade for "slower runs", like if time has no value to me, can't they simply sustain my fleet in turn for the damage lost?

[atomic abyss]

No

[atomic abyss]

They're not even good at healing

[rain bobcat]

they don't even heal much

[atomic abyss]

All the proper healers in this game heal and do damage

[rain bobcat]

if you needed AA there are many vanguards with good AA

[hazy olive]

Repair ships have functionality as main AA IIRC

[atomic abyss]

Also because dead enemies deal no damage that you need to heal off

[peak fable]

are they bad in plane heavy worlds too?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Because they deal no damage

You'd need someone to hard carry the DPS

[hazy olive]

Just use support carriers

[rain bobcat]

this isn't 2021 where there was a genuine option to use ARs for AA on w13, most ships are broken in this game today

[peak fable]

sad... I kinda liked the idea of repair ships

[atomic abyss]

The idea of repair ships as they exist in AL is horrible, where they're not even good at healing

They need a massive rework lmao

[hazy olive]

lol just realised I have a Chinese carrier which only uses floatplanes, and categorises bombers as torpedo bombers

[peak fable]

or just bigger numbers

[atomic abyss]

Yeah lol

But to out heal unicorn would be incredible

[hazy olive]

if repair ships were actually the best at repairing, people might - hear me out - use them.

[rain bobcat]

they can't possibly do damage so they would need to outheal healers which is still not insane because then you would still lose massive dps

[hazy olive]

They just need to out heal Shouhou

[wind hazel]

i use them 🤓

[rain bobcat]

then theres still no use because unicorn is free and the best

[hazy olive]

Well, there’s Unicorn and Perseus, right?

And then there’s like no other decent healers, no?

[atomic abyss]

Well

That's wrong

[hazy olive]

Aquila, then who?

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn and Perseus are the broken healers

Aquila, Volga, Zuihou, Ryuuhou, Shouhou, Painleve

I suppose you can count Rafaello too

Dunkerque and Arizona are healers but not good ones

[violet grail]

Would changing ship maintenance facility auxes from a flat amount to % heal be enough to fix AR ships?

[rapid shard]

Rainbow mk7 not the gold mk7 btw just so you know which he was referring to

[atomic abyss]

Id say yes

[red sapphire]

Klauda is not bad too

[atomic abyss]

Oh right I forgot klaudia lmao

[rapid shard]

Klaudia actually has pretty solid heals to dmg.

[rain bobcat]

shes quite good yes

[rapid shard]

Other than unicorn. Would she be generally better than perseus due to massive reload after her preload?

[red sapphire]

Depends. I like perseus more because there are 2 preloads and helps me wiping mob fleets faster for me, but as I know Unicorn is better

[forest palm]

for stuff like 14 or 15, I guess

[knotty jolt]

The problem is they don't do anything but healing. In 99% of cases it's easier to just kill the enemy before your hp drops to 0

[rain bobcat]

uni>aquila>volga/zuihou>klaudia

[forest palm]

Zuihou is actually highly favored in 15

[rain bobcat]

yeah

[forest palm]

context matters where something is good

if outside of 14 + 15, Unicorn and Percy will mop everything

[rain bobcat]

her healing is very nice in 15

basically guaranteed burst heal on flagship+lowest hp vanguard

[hazy olive]

Suppose I ought to max out skills

The purple Tenzan is in the 2x slot, and the Ryusei Kai is in the 5x slot

However, one is at about 165% efficiency with skill, and the 5x slot is 155%, IIRC

This work?

[rapid shard]

Work for what content? Boss, mob?

[hazy olive]

just in general

[wind hazel]

do you not have parallel torpedo bomber?

[rapid shard]

If that's for mob then not really. Ryusei Kai is a converging torp plane. And unless your fighting a medium or heavy armor boss its gonna do really poor dmg

Mori made these example loadouts earlier for general mob use.

[hazy olive]

I have a singular purple barracuda.

[wind hazel]

keep it that way then, for now

[hazy olive]

There’s a TBF avenger and swordfish, also purple, ig

[red sapphire]

I think Ryusei is better on first slot because of the efficiency

[bold surge]

3rd slot has more planes

[rapid shard]

Once skill procs the third slot has a bit higher boost and more planes

[rapid shard]

Just doesnt show the boost in the gear screen. And im pretty sure it jumps to like 160% efficiency for 3rd slot if IJN plane is in 1st

[bold surge]

Hakuhou 3rd slot is more damage.

[wind hazel]

tenzan is an ijn torpedo bomber, so it checks all the list

[bold surge]

Do you want 2x160% efficiency or 5x155% efficiency?

[rapid shard]

Ah got the slots mixed up. I knew one jumped to 160 and other was 155 just had them reversed. 3rd slot still best for ryukai

[red sapphire]

Oh okay didn't knew

[bold surge]

first slot is 110% and becomes 160% if its (IJN?) TB, but it only has 2 planes.
third slot is 155% but has a massive 5 planes.

[rain bobcat]

TB only

IJN planes on 1st slot just give her 10% avi

thats why its preferred to have ijn first slot

[rapid shard]

Theres full breakdown

[bold surge]

So just do IJN ryusei in first and ryusei kai in 3rd

[rain bobcat]

for campaign you use ryuusei kai/saiun first and wyvern/breguet 3rd

[red sapphire]

On Haku I have Saiun/Helldiver/Ryusei from event. I think it's good enought

[rain bobcat]

timing on boss just depends so its wtver

I use ryuusei+kai

[hazy olive]

imagine if it just boosted all slots by 50%

[dapper token]

Shimanto is good for her AA right and what else?

[wind hazel]

burn debuff, some heal some shield

[wary saffron]

So guys I got Emden

Should I invest and focus on making her strong

[wind hazel]

depends on what else you have