gameplay-help

[lean valley]

40 reload for CVs with base ~120-130 reload would be ~2s wouldn't it?

[rain bobcat]

i remember 1rld being 0.08 or smth? idk

should be somewhere slightly above 3s by rough estimate

[atomic abyss]

and again

budget planes tend to be very slow

tbm avengers are about as fast as helldivers
and those are TBs

[red sapphire]

Good morning. Is VH armor plating worth using?

Okay

What to buy from Core Data Shop? I have 2 white shells 1 black and 1 homing beacon. What to buy for general utility?

[atomic abyss]

another white shell

then grab independence

[red sapphire]

The third one?

[atomic abyss]

yes you will need 3 at least

[red sapphire]

Got her. On a pull I think

[atomic abyss]

impossible to get her from a pull

[red sapphire]

Okay, then it's white shell

[rapid shard]

She's only in the shop currently

[atomic abyss]

independence is core shop only, unless you're a really old player

[red sapphire]

Then I have bought her at some point may be

[red sapphire]

Probably bought on core data shop then

Just I forgot I did

[spark patio]

what should i buy in coredata shop? i already bought 2 white and 2 black shells

[red sapphire]

I've just been told that 3 white shells are need so you may want the third one

[spark patio]

i still have enough to buy sth else

[knotty jolt]

More shells are good can never have enough

[red sapphire]

Do you have Independence?

[spark patio]

no

[knotty jolt]

Really the only other thing I can think of worth buying would be some sub gear like snorkel

[rapid shard]

Berguet is a decent pickup if your lacking parallel torp planes

[red sapphire]

You may want Independence

[rapid shard]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[split gazelle]

3 white 2 black > independence > manjuu/beacon > breguets > rest (sub gear/ddg), something like that

[red sapphire]

Wait this is great

[spark patio]

alr, i bought the third shell and independence

[spark patio]

my phone sucks, i can only see all the green bordered stuffs

[knotty jolt]

Personally wouldn't spend on blackburns, would rather spend the extra resource costs to craft it in the gear lab when working towards a wyvern

[spark patio]

wait, Seiran only obtainable from coreshop?

[red sapphire]

Yes

Wait no, gear lab too

[late flame]

i also wouldnt bother with seiran

[red sapphire]

@spark patio

[solar lily]

naaaah but i use it on agir for the memes

[red sapphire]

If I had Ägir... I need tech points

[narrow kiln]

Is there anything other than the recommended sheet worth buying with Core Data?

[atomic abyss]

everything else there is "buy if you are using" tbh

like more beacons or more avi manjuus

or sub gear for subs

DDG gear for DDGs

[narrow kiln]

Can you explain the difference between the T-Radar and the Black Shell? (in terms of what is preferable)
(I'm not entirely clear on this one)

[rain bobcat]

what radar

black shell early hpfcr later on

its due to black shell being easily accesible earlier+not really being able to take full advantage of the cd reduction from hpfcr early

[red sapphire]

Hpfcr is event right? I have one fcr from research

No? How do I get it?

[spark patio]

research

[red sapphire]

Oh wait I thought the UR was mentioned

[rain bobcat]

pr3 research

[wind hazel]

ur table/hpfcr is preferred over blackshell is because it allows you to fire more salvo granted you have the rld for it, and it has the much needed HIT stats. more hit=more damage

[red sapphire]

Yeah my bad. I thought Ayaya was mentioning the UR one

[rain bobcat]

UR is called table or afct

[narrow kiln]

Hmm...
Now I get it... I'd better go text something to my friend.

[spark patio]

how do we get the table

[red sapphire]

Event

[rain bobcat]

vanguard event goner for now until they archive the gear (even though vg is already archived)

[spark patio]

I thought it would never rerun again since vanguard was permanent ur now

[rain bobcat]

they simply haven't added it yet

they could make it core data but that would also mean we'd only have 2 of them maximum

they cant gear lab it either because there's no auxiliary gearlab gear unless they add it

[red sapphire]

Why not monthly?

[split gazelle]

i think he meant protocore

[narrow kiln]

UR

[spark patio]

and the SR one will be slightly worse than the ur table?

[red sapphire]

There is UR torpedo there

[rain bobcat]

meant protocore, but also making it simple core data infinite like dildo is unlikely considering not even the shittiest event gear is infinite

[rain bobcat]

I guess they could make it 3 purchase limit protocore

[red sapphire]

Oh I see. Well protocore is research no?

By buying designs

[rain bobcat]

could make it the bulin point as well

its just a weird gear that they cant really figure out what to do for archiving it probably

[red sapphire]

Yeah. Also is bis so... we probably want that somehow

[rain bobcat]

like the thing is

idk if anyone even remembers but z flag is actually an event gear

adding it to standard core data just means it'll be 2 maximum for all players unless they + 1

fine ig just annoying for me when I dont like swapping

[spark patio]

Like everyone could buy 3 z flags only?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[boreal wagon]

not specifically buy 3 but own 3

[red sapphire]

Z flag like other Core (Ltd.) stuff is need to unlock ship bonus so, I think can be diferent with table as it's just "great staple"

[boreal wagon]

if you already owned 1 you couldnt buy another 3

[rain bobcat]

theres 3 z flags because it reran twice in JP

also reran twice cn i forgot

[spark patio]

ah, just like a method to catchup all the missing reran gears?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[spark patio]

peak game

[boreal wagon]

kind of but the reason they limited it is just kind of arbitrary

[red sapphire]

By the way, I wanted to ask if do you guys like this gear setup for Musashi

[rain bobcat]

good

id rather use sword though

hit is better for most cases

[red sapphire]

It's heavy armor boss setup. The gun is also for Heavy

[rain bobcat]

dunno why you have the gun +13 but sure ig if you have plates for everything

[red sapphire]

More less yes. I don't really know if secondary gun is correct for her

[atomic abyss]

it's fine to +13 that main gun tho

that's daisen gun no?

[red sapphire]

Yes

[rain bobcat]

fine if you dont have spare ply for more FP or ch14

[wind hazel]

ye imagine not having 13 daisen gun

[cursive stag]

guys i got Eldridge it's a good destroyer right? should invest heavily into her?

[atomic abyss]

only with her retrofit she is good
she is bad otherwise

[wind hazel]

plygun is worse than 155kai for ch14 im sure

[rain bobcat]

retro her if you have retro item otherwise horrible

[atomic abyss]

do you have her retrofit item?
it's event limited

[rain bobcat]

yeah its worse burst

155kai is more reliable at taking the rammers down

[cursive stag]

no... another of those ....

[rain bobcat]

it ran a few weeks ago during hakuhou

[red sapphire]

What's a good secondary for general usage? Like OpSig and stuff. Outside ch14

[spark patio]

are those general augs necessary?

[atomic abyss]

155 kai is fine for general use

[atomic abyss]

no

[red sapphire]

Thank good I've got it. Now I need the shipgirl

[red sapphire]

As I know, table would be better than hsfcr and white shell is must

[atomic abyss]

those are auxes

not augs

[red sapphire]

Wait augs?

[rain bobcat]

not rly if ur broke

[atomic abyss]

augs as in augments

[rain bobcat]

purple general augments

[spark patio]

only do unique augs right?

[red sapphire]

I'm so smartn't

[atomic abyss]

the good unique augs of stuff you use yes

[red sapphire]

You probably want some non unique augs. Ur don't have so

[rain bobcat]

until you have expendable money yeah

[red sapphire]

Okay, I missed the message. Thanks

[spark patio]

so give me the priority augs guide or command to get the guide pls

[atomic abyss]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[rain bobcat]

go to suchis guide

[late flame]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[rain bobcat]

tldr like monarch sandy ibuki

unless you have oumi

[atomic abyss]

suchi's guide for aug is in the /equip command btw

[late flame]

-# shh i cant read

[heavy zealot]

Hestia is good right?

[atomic abyss]

good as a repair ship yes
repair ships are shit though

[spark patio]

dummy question, w is tldr

[atomic abyss]

too long, didnt read

[heavy zealot]

Bruh whaaaa

[atomic abyss]

repair ships dont deal surface damage
so they're shit

[obtuse island]

my coin up price didn't reset for some reason, does someone know the fix?

[atomic abyss]

use unicorn if you need a healer

[spark patio]

does Zeppy give tech point?

[atomic abyss]

restart game

[crimson glacier]

no

[atomic abyss]

little ships do not give tech points
neither do muses

[crimson glacier]

child ships are useless waste

[obtuse island]

already restarted it several times

[narrow kiln]

Can someone explain what Shiranui's unique augment give?

[atomic abyss]

a weird chest

[spark patio]

they dont give fleet tech too?

[atomic abyss]

they give nothing lol

[narrow kiln]

Does it do anything?

[atomic abyss]

you can open it

it's a tech box

[rain bobcat]

just a trophy. well, unless you open it

[boreal wagon]

it has the exact same drop pool as a sakura t3 tech pack but with anything that isnt elite removed from it

[atomic abyss]

well, it only reseted 10 mins ago soooo

[boreal wagon]

(which coincidentally despite the description claiming otherwise also means the gear can be non sakura)

[rain bobcat]

coins reset 4hrs after reset which was.. 12 mins ago

[spark patio]

ships with the same rarity give the same amount of tech points ?

[atomic abyss]

no

depends on their hull type as well

[rain bobcat]

germans also give more

because they had little amount during the early days

also means you need more total german points to max to compensate

[obtuse island]

welp it just fixed itself, seems like it was slightly delayed for me

[spark patio]

so 200 IB tech points is about 9 ships?

[atomic abyss]

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleet_technology/

just check here

[spark patio]

ah thanks

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

or here for the full list

[spark patio]

these numbers make my eyes feel dizzy

[rain bobcat]

I mean 200 IB tech can be as low as only 1 SSR 120

[spark patio]

No no no, i mean all the numbers in the guide

[supple wraith]

once I clear every node and done my dailies in opsi, I just run C1 loop yes?

[rain bobcat]

start at like 1200 then run c1 til ur bored

afterwards on reset run dailies and c3/c5 until you reach where you started the day before

and continue the loop

[supple wraith]

1200 ap?

[rain bobcat]

yeah, I like starting at 1200-1500

1000 is treading it thin imo

[supple wraith]

and secured aye? loop same stage?

I uh um not sure if I have enough AP boxes for 1k actually

[rain bobcat]

yes

shouldn't have done everything early

I usually do it after I clear initial strongholds with the regen AP

then dump everything to farm that way I can stock 3 strongholds if my rng is somehow good and I last long

[supple wraith]

I dont think I've done strongholds

[forest palm]

person sounds too new to be doing C1 spam

[supple wraith]

oh I actually have 1950 AP worth of boxes, am just stubid at math

[rain bobcat]

I lasted until 950+ adaps this month quite mid

[rain bobcat]

the real grinders with no 5000 logger manual clear+c1 spam every month

[forest palm]

sounds boring tbh

[rain bobcat]

I would recommend clearing ur strongholds with regen AP aka dont go over 200 and let it regen

until you have 0 strongholds before starting c1

dont wanna be ditching a stronghold into the sea when you could easily do all of them if you wait 2 days

[atomic abyss]

i mean all this assumes you have all the time in the world to run AL anyways

[rain bobcat]

it was peak farming to get tech stat up back then

[rain bobcat]

tru

which means u either have a way to somehow run AL at work or class or have no yob

[forest palm]

again that's very end game, not something a newer player would care about

also ops gives no affection so it's bad in this regard for newer players that are tryin to raise ships

C1 isn't bad but it's not for everyone

[silent hearth]

are you talking about tech as in fleet tech, or the OPSI stats?

[rain bobcat]

fleet tech

[silent hearth]

for grinding lvls or something else?

[rain bobcat]

lvl is 50% of it

c1 farming is a way to grow AP to give you free AP to go into cat node farming and get actual loot

you just get a lot of exp in the process because it takes a ridiculous amount of runs per month

[atomic abyss]

imo

[proud vale]

My Friend:
I registered for Azur Lane using my Apple ID on an iOS device and bound my Azur Lane account in the YOSTAR Account Centre. So why, when I now try to log into my account on an Android device using the YOSTAR Email, and select the server I previously played on, does it take me into the beginner's tutorial?

[silent hearth]

yeah i havnt had much luck with cat node farming. most of the time its blue/purple, ive had mby 2-3 of them go gold. thats with probably 1000 cat nodes (my cats are around 20, not sure if thats too low or what)

[atomic abyss]

no one should be doing c1 strats unless they know what they're doing

you shouldnt be recommending it to players that are coming here asking for help

[silent hearth]

might want to go to the tech support room

[atomic abyss]

c3/c5 should be the recommendation for people who dont know what to do, aka asking here

[proud vale]

OK

[forest palm]

I kind of wouldn't mind if they killed C1 spam, like they did 2-1

[silent hearth]

ill help ya there, i had the same issue

[rain bobcat]

short answer yes

bind it to another social or an actual yostar email in game if you want to play android and ios at the same time

[rain bobcat]

i mean yeah 100% just went into that topic because someone asked how to do it

[supple wraith]

oh I just wasnt sure what to do

[rain bobcat]

never really did commission/gem farming

was annoying because you had many more buttons to press

[supple wraith]

I have cleared basically every explorable node and havent touched the red swirls and red exclamation points cause am kinda scared

[rain bobcat]

they need to just add smth down the line

OS is very outdated and easy

[forest palm]

ya no do not C1 spam then if that's the state of your ops

[rapid shard]

Took me 5/6 days to fully clear everything. Now its just dailys and c3/5

[forest palm]

that's the casual way to play

[silent hearth]

the strongholds (the red swirls) are pretty difficult unless you have the right amount of adaptability points, however you can leave and reenter to heal as much as needed without loosing progress

[forest palm]

Strongholds aren't really difficult when you can just rush them

[cobalt skiff]

Can I ask how do I get the ryuu collab unit? All it tells me is to complete its quest but I can’t find what quest it is too complete

[forest palm]

just kill enemies

[rain bobcat]

adap doesnt really matter outside harbiter

[cobalt skiff]

With any units?

[rain bobcat]

battle thats it

[supple wraith]

am hanging at around 150 as my lowest rn, is that good enough?

[cobalt skiff]

Oh got it thanks

[rain bobcat]

150 can clear anything probably except harbiter unless ur units are actually impaired

[cobalt skiff]

Would’ve been better if it just told me (prob did but I’m too blind)

[silent hearth]

i think just fighting gives it to you, you dont even really need to have hestia to get her favor item either, i have a few thousand of her without having taken her into my group. you just get more if you have her in your fleet when you clear the boss

[rain bobcat]

ur in AL

[cobalt skiff]

LOL true

[rain bobcat]

they do tell you but its in a very arbitrary location

which is very typical

[silent hearth]

like most AL stuff >.>

[cobalt skiff]

All it says is “do event mission” and I was like which event mission.

[silent hearth]

i know this game is old but geeze would it kill them to make it just a tiny bit more player friendly

[cobalt skiff]

[cobalt skiff]

I’m not new just an returning player that got hit with how confusing this game can be sometimes

[heavy zealot]

The archer unit girl from the collab, she good?

[silent hearth]

nah not saying you are. but i am and trying to figure this game out is/was difficult.

Shes decent, not meta but decent.

if you were around for the last event i would say shes around minase level, if not higher.

[cobalt skiff]

Archer unit?

[heavy zealot]

Ryu lion?, (forgot her name 🙏, the elf?)

[cobalt skiff]

I don’t think she’s an archer lol that’s why I was so confused and ye your correct

[silent hearth]

eh...higher then minase. but lower then some of the other golds

[silent hearth]

in the anime shes a elf archer lol

[red sapphire]

Is it worth to craft Experimantal XSB3C-1 or I just keep the mats for other stuff and stick to SB2C Helldivers?

[silent hearth]

and sword*

[rain bobcat]

slightly tankier than portland but with way more damage overall decent option

[rain bobcat]

they're only better at +13 vs +11 helldiver aka rubbish

[silent hearth]

this is pretty good if your still fairly new

[red sapphire]

Oh nice thanks

[heavy zealot]

Sooo, a good unit would you say? I got some sr bullin with noone to use it on ( i think) i send my sr ships?

[silent hearth]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab for the full guide

[rocky lake]

Is Clemenceau worth grinding for in the upcoming event if i have Vanguard, UVH and Oumi?

[rain bobcat]

if you have more than 2 screenshots make a thread, else sure post it

[silent hearth]

i would wait to use bulins, i think we can get copies during the event

[cobalt skiff]

???? Unless season 5 changed her into an archer she has always been a magic swordswoman

[rain bobcat]

clem is pretty cheeks

[heavy zealot]

Confused her with a character from goblin slayer 🙏 zorry

[silent hearth]

mmm.... you might be right. I think i got my stuff mixed up. its been a few years since i watched the anime

[rocky lake]

👍

[cobalt skiff]

One quick question, does trial unit turn into permanent when I get the character? So is it safe to just upgrade her

[silent hearth]

same! XD

[silent hearth]

yes, she will become perm when you get her during the event

[cobalt skiff]

Ah Nono your fine LOL I was just super confused since I follow along with the story a lot

[cobalt skiff]

Thanks for the help

Much love

[silent hearth]

np ^.^ theres lots of good information but it would say the link i gave you is one of the best to follow until you start getting super specialized. even then it has a fairly good section under the quick gear guide for what you should be doing for light/medium/heavy armor

[cobalt skiff]

Oh thanks, it’s a good way to refresh what I need to know lol, been in the game since year 1 and had to drop for college

[solar lily]

ryu's a decent tanker?

[wind hazel]

can tank in non hard content

[rain bobcat]

while she isn't particularly someone you would prefer to tank she can tank if its not too hard

[steady rain]

do pvp exercise vanguard ships xp gain contribute to research ship xp accumulation task?

[atomic abyss]

no

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[dapper token]

How to get much oil

[onyx flame]

there only so much you can earn a day but basically have commission constantly running

[dapper token]

Welp how abt the 1200 oil one

[soft raft]

hell no

[onyx flame]

the com that cost 1.2k oil? that one you shouldnt do at all

[dapper token]

but is it fine to not do them i mean there are sometimes the coobes one

[soft raft]

it's simply not worth the oil at all when it can be used to grind W12 for much better oil/rewards efficency

[onyx flame]

they only cycle if you do em, so once you stop em they stop cycling

and yea better places to spend oil on if your active

[queen frigate]

What affects torp reload speed

[narrow kiln]

Sorry to interrupt...
Is English your native language?

[dapper token]

yea exactly like is it fine to miss out on the cubes one just for the oil

[dapper token]

Not exactly why

[soft raft]

The RLD stat affects reload for weapons
If you're thinking of slapping a Autoloader or something, dont bother

[narrow kiln]

As far as I know, the Reload stat, direct reload changes (if any, indicated in the skills) and actually different torpedoes have different stats.
(If my knowledge was not needed, I apologize)

[onyx flame]

if you got excess oil that you cant spend in other places, then its not the worse choice but i wouldnt do any of those comm after

[soft raft]

eh even if you have excess oil, you're better off just doing a 3x auto run w/ the 2x plans activated

[rain bobcat]

you get more cubes spending the oil normally and doing urgent commissions instead of coping for 6 cubes for 6k oil

[dapper token]

Make sense

[rain bobcat]

the 6-8 cube 1200 drop only comes every 5-10 resets of the 1200 oil comm its literally useless

[dapper token]

Ohhhh I just knew that huh alr then

[forest palm]

it's RNG

[rain bobcat]

ive never gotten it within 3 though

[forest palm]

and I've gotten 3 back to back

[rain bobcat]

black magic

[forest palm]

welcome to RNG, don't let confirmation bias get you

[silk helm]

after near maxing bb rld tech i can fianlly bring meta down to x8 hp. im still short... i think another fritz airstrike will KO it

[forest palm]

what's your BB hit looking like?

[silk helm]

+16

my gear also isn't maxed yet (no gold plates 🥀 )

[forest palm]

well 2 more Hit, and 13+ wouldn't make a massive difference

[silk helm]

ah yeah fritz is so close to firing thatll probably make enough of a diff

im approaching mid game finally

[forest palm]

and what does your CV Hit + RLD look like?

[muted crescent]

mid game ☠️

I must be in the tutorial then 😭

[forest palm]

missing basically half of RLD Tech, and like 14 Hit, which means you could see an improvement if you work in that area

[silk helm]

tyty

i want to finish bb reload im like 3 ships away from maxing

but ya CV rld and hit is next

[forest palm]

it'll go quick since it's main fleet

[silk helm]

idk why but it feels so slow to me :/ i mean faster than vanguard

[forest palm]

you may have some tech locked behind faction tech if you haven't Lv 7+'d those

[silk helm]

i should have all those im a boomer now 🥀

[chilly sonnet]

May I know where do I find team building guide? Used to play the game from 2017-2018 and only yesterday I downloaded the game back and it seems like there's so many ships

[dusk dirge]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/early_ship_recommendations/

[dusk dirge]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/

[soft raft]

There's this https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/
But your best bet for fleet help is to post your dock in a thread here along with telling us the content you're trying to beat

[dusk dirge]

And in general here are the rest of the guides:

https://azurlaneecgc.com

[chilly sonnet]

Ah I see thank you so much

May I ask for suggestions if I sent my docks here

[dusk dirge]

But this place is also helpful. If you want you can create a thread and post your dock there for help.

[soft raft]

yeah feel free to make a thread

[dusk dirge]

Yes, if you create a separate thread for it!

[chilly sonnet]

Gotcha

Need help in team recommendation

I appreciate your times

[bold surge]

I did some research into research on my own. After doing ~700 researches It is my understanding that research which are short in time, yields more rewards and are cheaper compared to their longer Elite/SSR counterparts.

So you would always want to do 30 minute missions > 1 hour > 2 hour > 4 hour etc.

Is this correct? The "rewards" are just a count of total drops and do not take into account their rarity in anyway.

[wispy cosmos]

not very useful because youre not separating gold and rainbow drops

[bold surge]

It was mainly for the cognitive chips why I started this

I am probably gonna do one for the UR gear drop. Except they drop so rarely, its very hard to get an accurate picture doing it on your own

[wispy cosmos]

but in theory yes, per unit time shorter researchs are better. there's the argument however that you may want to choose longer researches because your next research may not be a good one (in practice just for qs)

[bold surge]

I thought it would be the other way around for getting more 30 minute ones

[wispy cosmos]

i dont know of a dataset of refresh rates, but 30min researchs are rare enough that it doesnt seem like it's worth it for gear

[wispy cosmos]

are you currently doing this manully

[bold surge]

Yes, I started since PR 8 dropped

[wispy cosmos]

i assume youre inputting as you go and not keeping an archive of screenshots or anything?

[bold surge]

This is probably the most interesting thing from my research (regarding cog chips)
This is the cube to cog chip exchange ratio (30/60/120/240minutes)

And yes no screenshots so the numbers are not 100% accurate as I could have made mistakes.

I did have some protection methods like noting down the special cores per mission. This is a constant and thus easy to use a tool for corrections when entering multiple researches at once.

[junior fractal]

Newer player here, does c3/c5 just mean spending your energy on clearing a difficulty 3 or 5 zone?

[atomic abyss]

yep
since that gives your best AP/Cat node efficiency

and the cat nodes are the ones that can give you the loot you want

like your t4 parts

[junior fractal]

Cool thank you 🙂

[bold surge]

I pulled this cat a few days ago. I get the feeling its pretty good. I just roll this for more reload right?

[rapid summit]

How well does Essex retrofit hold up in world 12 and onward compared to enterprise?

[wispy cosmos]

what were the base talents

[bold surge]

Those 3 but the top one is rank 1

Or 2 cant remember

[foggy chasm]

i dont understand the danmachi event

[wispy cosmos]

it's a very good cat, roll for chief of staff and it's perfect

[bold surge]

Thats the TRP + RLD one right?

[bold surge]

What part?

[foggy chasm]

i just need to run any stage with hestia on the boss stage?

[soft raft]

you dont need to run Hestia at all

[foggy chasm]

and how do i get lion

[soft raft]

Hesita's just there for bonus points

[soft raft]

You are 5 months late to her event, you're gonna have to wait until she reruns in like 2 years

[bold surge]

You gain 2x points if Hestia is in the boss fleet when you clear a map. But just doing normal runs earns enough points too.

[weary edge]

it’s okay i also missed lion

[foggy chasm]

what

https://tenor.com/view/aint-no-way-aint-no-way-emote-skeleton-ceiling-skeleton-skeleton-meme-gif-27293608

[quaint estuary]

between essex retrofit and yorktown 2 which one is better as a cv? Maybe yorktown is better for light and essex for heavy? (both have hvar and skyraider

[soft raft]

Also no off topic images here btw

[bold surge]

Lion is a UR ship that recently came out and is not yet available to obtain for those who missed the event. It will probably take a loooooong time before they throw her in construction UR exchange/rerun or something.

[soft raft]

Essex Retro is more well rounded while Yk2 is more oriented towards anti-med/light

[quaint estuary]

I put spearfish instead of wyvern on essex, is it ok anyway?

[soft raft]

without knowing any further context, sure it can work without much issue

[eternal basalt]

3 years from now (rerun: 2 years)

[foggy chasm]

oh lol i mean ryuu lion
https://danmachi.fandom.com/wiki/Ryuu_Lion

[bold surge]

Not certain but just doing any normal/event map gains points which you can use for her too

[viscid swift]

kill 100 enemies

Not really difficult

[rapid grail]

fandom

[rapid summit]

Is it a good idea to switch out enterprise for Essex retrofit?

[bold surge]

So basically, do a lot of sorties and you should have enough points to unlock all the characters + equipment. Every progress step is locked behind a 24hr waiting period, which should be gone in a week. So in a week you can collect it all if you have gathered all the points.

[rapid grail]

for campaign? yes
for bossing? conditional but should prefer sex retro

[rapid summit]

Im doing it for campaign but could it also work for opsi?

[bold surge]

Define "work". Both ships are good, its just that essex retro has a bit more flexibility beyond Enty's big damage.

Both ships can work if you give them good gear and fleet

[rapid summit]

Work as in who is more helpful for campaign events and opsi

[bold surge]

My outdated oppinion is that Essex is better for campaign as she has higher AVI stat and AA for air superiority purposes. I dont know about OpSi as AS doesnt matter there.

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

[foggy chasm]

i just click the top links hahaha

[foggy chasm]

i see ty

[fresh tangle]

Been away for several months now and getting my head around the game. Would love to share my dock and answer any questions about current progress. Is this a good place to share images of my dock(only gold and rainbow ships)

[onyx flame]

Make a thread and you can post em in there

[fresh tangle]

Returning player looking for guidance

[weary edge]

should i uhhh,, pursue the development of the carrier enterprise to further strengthen my fleet’s aviation capabilities

cz like i dont rly got no one else to build cept kazagumo

[red sapphire]

Good afternoon chat. Why everyone say that Neptune is very tanky? What make her that durable?

[onyx flame]

she is a very good cv if you dont got any other cv options

[robust onyx]

Her skills most likely

[red sapphire]

I see. May I use her on endgame or she falls?

[robust onyx]

Might not be the best end game character honestly

[atomic abyss]

her augment and her raw stats

she is not a particularly good pick for end game content

[weary edge]

i hakuhou uni retro aquila and sara

[sweet delta]

Enterprise is the best gold damage carrier, so she is useful for you

[weary edge]

i also have baltimore

[red sapphire]

I see. Thanks for explaining to me

[sweet delta]

Neptune needs her augment to be good

[weary edge]

np

[red sapphire]

I have It. I'm looking for good Vanguards for OpSi. Any sugestion? I'm ulocking Anchorage right now

[jolly condor]

what are good secondary guns for bismarck

[hollow gust]

gold triple 155

[jolly condor]

auxiliaries?

[red sapphire]

Table / hpfcr / black shell + white shell I think

[hollow gust]

shells from core datashop, although if you are that new then i suggest you not to use bismarck unless you have zwei

[jolly condor]

i lowkey forgot there was a bismarck besides zwei

[candid yarrow]

what plane do you put on 404?

[hollow gust]

f8f bearcat float ver

[candid yarrow]

wow are all the alternatives just garbage 😭

[heavy zealot]

She can do such dmg???

[atomic abyss]

she is the best sub in the game currently

[heavy zealot]

The only UR sub? Ahahah

I havent built anything about subs yet

[hollow gust]

mines a pos for some reason, keeps losing to flasher

[forest palm]

I swear it should specify what "high RLD" means

[heavy zealot]

When this refresh

[fair lance]

monthly

[heavy zealot]

😭

[heavy zealot]

Luckily i got 4 copies of her within 70 pulls 🙏

[red sapphire]

Do you guys think I can use Nagato - Musashi - Oumi for BB fleet?

[viscid swift]

sounds bad

[red sapphire]

[hollow gust]

Nagato is the problem

[red sapphire]

Sad

[forest palm]

both Oumi and Nagato are the problem

[hollow gust]

oumi is a good ship, nagato isnt

[jolly condor]

Oumi is good if you max her

[atomic abyss]

im assuming they have nothing better

[red sapphire]

I raised Nagato when I started and I was wondering if I could use her

[sudden acorn]

Ehhh where can i find all fragments

[jolly condor]

i regret not getting oumi’s skin now

[silk sphinx]

for fragment no 3, go to the base at island harbor, you'll notice one of the machines emitting smoke

[safe nexus]

does san diego have to use a fast load main gun?

[silk sphinx]

also, fyi there's a thread specifically for the island planner mode

[silk sphinx]

that would be preferrable given that it'll help her get out barrages

[violet grail]

Rip. Im f2p so my dockspace is gonna suffer for it but whatever its the one skin I have. The one shipgirl that I oathed as well.

[silk sphinx]

you can't go wrong with the two ur dd guns though (also side note she has a bug that affects her barrages)

[safe nexus]

i saw the stars kept coming out so i think its like a must ngl

[red sapphire]

Is Warspite Retrofit good?

[silk sphinx]

yes

[sudden acorn]

Okayy ty so much xd

[silk sphinx]

although, not that good, and p expensive

that still puts her with her augment in the bottom half of current UR BBs though, which is quite high

[safe nexus]

can recommend which is fast?

[red sapphire]

I see. I think I'm going for her. As Nagato is not good

[limpid moon]

got my first flapjack, should i just throw it onto york2 or enty

[silk sphinx]

okay so the thing is, while you do want a fast gun, she still has mg+1 and good fp, so you still want gun damage

[silk helm]

put on uni for mob fleet

[silk sphinx]

also, second thing is, there's a bug causing that if sandy's gun fires too quickly, the extra skill bullets won't proc on every shot, so may as well take a slower gun with better damage

you can go with the two ur guns (one of which can be build in gear lab) but more affordable choices just go with the standard dd main guns

if you don't what that is, try /gear

welp i don't remember the commands clearly

anyways go to ectl or sam's spreadsheets, there's guidance on what guns to use on her

[silk helm]

suchi's gear guide is better than both of those btw

[silk sphinx]

huh i wasn't aware of that (i've been off ALO gph for a while)

in that case do that yeah

[silk helm]

meta shifted

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[soft raft]

fym meta shifted? His is just a easier to read one

[safe nexus]

so if i follow DD100 kai/mogador?

[silk helm]

easier to read = better

[safe nexus]

would the DD barrage spam be a bad idea then?

[sweet delta]

ectl is the easiest to read

[silk sphinx]

just use these

[limpid moon]

ty

[jaunty pecan]

how do you get ryu lion, i cant find instructions

[hollow gust]

click the event tab, claim

[jaunty pecan]

????

[limpid moon]

you need to clear stages

[jaunty pecan]

so literally just same as hestia's point gain?

[limpid moon]

to get progress

[hollow gust]

how have you not done a single campaign stage

[boreal wagon]

no, its enemies defeated not stages cleared, you get ryu after 100

(but the very mislabled "claim" button tells you all that)

[rose whale]

is there even a way to adjust my fleet in meta fight when I have used all the daily battle?

[hazy olive]

yes but we’ve been made very aware that graphic design and digital ergonomics are the passion of the Azur Lane team

the profession is boobs

/half jk I still love the game

[azure coyote]

Finally got uni retro

[soft raft]

#trophy-room

[agile patrol]

Who should I unlock after getting Agir?

[tropic tusk]

if ur faring in 3-4 u should stop

[agile patrol]

what do you mean

[soft raft]

how the fuck did you misread that as Akagi

[tropic tusk]

oh wait i read wrtong lol

[hollow gust]

[agile patrol]

oh u meant
ohhh 😭
no im not stuck in 2021

[tropic tusk]

anyway who did u unlockalready

[agile patrol]

Saint Louis, Roon, finishing Agir soon

[tropic tusk]

u can get anchorage shes being used alot

after that dont know if its still recommand to get hakuryuu

[agile patrol]

yeah i can tell

[agile patrol]

didn't hakuryuu like fall off? i heard smth about her not being so worth it

[eternal basalt]

No, no milk... Aaaaaah, milk-PTSD from Island

[tropic tusk]

are u going to push w15? if so u can shimanto

if not then russian cat

[agile patrol]

These can't be coined-up yes? So like, it'll take a long time to get them to Dev30?

[tropic tusk]

wasnt it up to pr 6 now?

[agile patrol]

idk. the guide says pr1-pr4

[tropic tusk]

or is it only 5?

[soft raft]

only if you have both Amagi CV and Hakuhou and you're doing content where Shinano would be relevant for her buff

[agile patrol]

i have hakuhou. i dont think i have amagi CV. oh she's a UR. no i dont have her

[tropic tusk]

pr5 is def coinable

cause if u see the research wep at shop it measn that tier is coinable

[agile patrol]

alright ill ignore the russian cat and shimanto for now. i'll think about it after i get anchorage

[split gazelle]

anchorage, avp, fdg unless you have good BBs, hakuryuu unless you have good CVs

[rapid shard]

Is this a decent BB cat?

[cobalt gate]

is one of the skills accuracy?

[rapid shard]

2 FPs and and a RLD

[soft raft]

decent enough to not be dogshit

[viscid swift]

okay to raise, wouldn't reroll

[floral latch]

Man, getting St Louis sis, Honolulu will be a bit difficult.

[hollow gust]

shes a blue CL map drop, shes easy as fuck

[hollow gust]

atp just wait for drake and Every

[floral latch]

Well I got low luck, always getting greys

And my oil is limited. 8k only.

[cobalt gate]

yeah raise for now reroll probablly want 1 rainbow skill

although i furgot if churchill gets a good rainbow skill

[floral latch]

Mind telling me what happened to Helena? Lou says something about Helena in chapter 10 area

[hollow gust]

if you are that new you shouldnt be faring for honolulu

[floral latch]

Not really new. Been here since Tragicomedy. But taking day off for 3 half years

[viscid swift]

USS Helena CL-50 was sunk at the Battle of Kula Gulf in 1943

[viscid swift]

new in terms of progression

[floral latch]

Ahh I see

[viscid swift]

doesn't really matter how old your account is

[sweet delta]

alpha

[silk helm]

you're basically in early game until u have max rld tech IMO

[red sapphire]

Do you guys like this equipment setups? It's all early stuff but I wonder if that's ok

[viscid swift]

it is accpeptable

[red sapphire]

Sounds good for now

[hollow gust]

shouldnt be using both percy and uni at the same time though

[red sapphire]

No

[rapid shard]

Do you have a link to a decent cat guide? Box is completely full with golds and purples and dkmt wanna scrap a possible decent one.

[red sapphire]

I want Argus to take Unicorn place but because I don't have her yet Independence I supose

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[soft raft]

Nah you would yeet Perseus

Perseus's +90% longer reload time screws her over big time later on in campaign

[red sapphire]

It's OpSi fleet. I really like the preloads, but I know uni is better

[elfin hollow]

I dont understand, why is Agir stuck in Dev lv30? Shes is lvl 125, is there a special way for her to unlock the ability to grow further?

[hollow gust]

she has no fate sim

[elfin hollow]

wtf why? x _ x

was she like a welfare unit or something or just too OP even without fate sim

[red sapphire]

She's strong enought as I know

[safe nexus]

ty

[rain vine]

DR ships get fate sims very slowly (ie whenever yostar wants them to have one)

[safe nexus]

san diego modernization basically makes her main gun shoot twice?

[hollow gust]

she does need one though, been falling off for all the busted DDs

[red sapphire]

Does BB fleets need slow suports?

[soft raft]

not really

[hollow gust]

Zwei has built in slow anyway

[red sapphire]

I see. I want to build a BB fleet, may be I can use Zwei because why not

I need the PR8 KMS ship if running Zwei?

[soft raft]

no

[red sapphire]

Alright, thanks

[desert cove]

for opsi what should i be buying from the ports

[hollow gust]

Everything

Also my I-404 sucks

[rain bobcat]

if the boss loves to move slightly fast yes

if using zwei or not moving a good anount not really

[lofty garnet]

hey, just started the island thing, and seems like I'm stuck at this quest now,
anyone knows where to look for those trees?

[agile patrol]

Who shall I MLB?
I can get enough bulins

[boreal wagon]

you have to research it and it cannot be gathered manually youll have to assign a worker, also #1422463299877867540

[gray sphinx]

Traf

[agile patrol]

convince me

[viscid swift]

those are all of your URs?

[agile patrol]

okauy i know im poor but u didnt have to hurt me like that

[viscid swift]

just asking, we get plenty of people in here who don't post everything

[agile patrol]

ya those are all i have

[viscid swift]

anyway yeah, probably Trafalgar, excellent universal debuffer when paired with a BB, okay, but not spectacular damage along with excellent AA

[agile patrol]

iseeisee. thank you!

[violet grail]

Is it worth to enhance gear to +3 before disassembling it to get T2 plates rather than only T1?

[sweet delta]

[soft raft]

what

[sweet delta]

Pretty sure you get what you paid, but less

[violet grail]

Oh wait i think I made a mistake comparing what was given when dissassembling my bad.

So I guess any unupgraded purple gear gives x1 T2 plate then. Im still a bit nervous about trashing purple gear. Even blues i try to check what can be crafted from em. Bit time consuming.

[dark hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II
if you don't have it already there's the safe to scrap list

[silent hearth]

is this gun worth using on a normal CL ship? (i dont have Felix and its a leftover from when i first started playing and didnt know what i was doing)

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#vanguard-weapons-cl-guns

[silent hearth]

ah i checked and just didnt see it XD thank you, im just blind @.@

thats crazy that its ranked so high agaisnt heavy even though its armor mod is so low, 60%

[violet grail]

Huge thanks! Needed this!

[sweet delta]

the other good guns have 70% heavy, not much higher

Felix gun is good because it has no spread, so it's more accurate

[robust nymph]

is perseus from heavy build?

[sweet delta]

special build and not worth going for

[silent hearth]

makes sense. Im trying to find out why CLs prefer DDs over CL guns when they can use both. Is there a explination anywhere? is this for barrage?

[sweet delta]

good DD guns have higher DPS and RoF, both of which are good

[silent hearth]

yeah i just dont see any of my main units that would prefer this over another.

[eternal fiber]

Is the prototype spearfish worth crafting? I've been looking for more torpedo bombers to make, but idk if I should make it due to how annoying it is to get those millitary electronics

[agile patrol]

(I don't have a concise, good answer but I'll post this because it's useful: https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/ )

[rain bobcat]

its quite good but its expensive for non veteran players

[eternal fiber]

I could make it but idk if I should save my electronic components for something else. Wish I could upgrade my purple electronic components ones into gold ones

[silent hearth]

you and me both XD

[sweet delta]

the problem is it costs a whopping 9 rainbow ordnance

[eternal fiber]

I mean, atm I have like 23 UR gear design plans just sitting in my inventory while I decide what to craft next

[agile patrol]

give me some

[silent hearth]

i got the wyvern instead, cheaper and its fantastic for mobbing.

[sweet delta]

rainbow ordnance, not rainbow design

[eternal fiber]

oh, yeah I have like 13 of those, lol

[sweet delta]

as the page says, twin 457mm and tenrai have higher priority for rainbow ordnance

[silent hearth]

yessssssssssssss finallyyyyyyyyyy

6 days of dev Q.Q

[rain bobcat]

2 tenrais lol

[agile patrol]

how much do people upgrade their toolboxes usually?
idk. something about +10'ing a toolbox feels wrong. a gut feeling

[agile patrol]

what the fuck

[violet grail]

pretty sure its fine to +10 them, its considered one of the best vanguard aux items

[eternal fiber]

^

[hollow gust]

do you only have 3 rows of tool?

[viscid swift]

about 4 at +10

[hollow gust]

thats not that much

[viscid swift]

I tend to use offensive auxes when leveling vanguards these days

[violet grail]

I could see prioritising +10ing main fleet auxes before vanguard auxes if youre more focused on dmg than on tankiness though I guess

[tender lotus]

Should i create a thread?

[hollow gust]

im so lazy im at like 6 rows and counting

[tender lotus]

Kazuhaya OS fleet 10/2025

[violet grail]

Also struggling with military electronics. Havent been able to craft any UR gear yet and they are my bottleneck to getting my first one.

[agile patrol]

So like, the main idea of vanguard auxes is putting double toolbox on everything and then replacing one of them with a washing machine later?

[violet grail]

I'm still only at 2 purple toolboxes at +10 and another three at +6.

[hollow gust]

spearfish is flatly not worth crafting for newer players

[soft raft]

DD is double toolbox
the rest are toolbox + washing machine or the steering wheel if you're poor

[agile patrol]

oh DD is always double toolbox

[violet grail]

yeah this is the exact advice I got from mori a few days ago 1 toolbox 1 hydraulic on the non dd vanguards, and double box on dds

22/25 craft pieces for washing machine but research been trolling me lately :/

[tender lotus]

I should craft more toolbox since I'm too lazy to swap them

[eternal fiber]

another thing I've been somewhat struggling with is building units. Take my UR CVs for instance, I have quite a few of them, and trying to gear them all up is a pain, especially if I'm not using some of them.

[eternal fiber]

by washing machine, you mean the high performance hydraulic steering, right?

[slow fox]

IPH mentioned

[eternal fiber]

Wish I could give some of mine, I have enough pieces to craft 13 of them

[viscid swift]

I have almost 70 of them

[slow fox]

-# Very good, my young disciple

[viscid swift]

a lot of them are +0 though

[sweet delta]

I don't even have 3000 of its bps yet

[violet grail]

And only 9 blueprints for the fire hydrant :/

to be fair I was just doing any free research no matter how slow for most of the time so far, only recently started prioritising the Q an G stuff that cost plates or coins. Haven't been able to take any UL research yet cause I couldnt spare the T3 plates.

[tender lotus]

Back then i bought plates whenever the event shop had it
And now i don't have to buy it since I have tons of it
just keep farming and leveling your ships
I'm leveling some rare/elite just to retire them when hitting lv120

[rain bobcat]

bro I have like 12 rows each of steam catas and toolboxes

I rarely take off gear after leveling SSRs

[agile patrol]

ive been wasting my war archives 'tokens' for a while now
which war archive(s) is the best to farm?

[dark hazel]

whatever stages give ships you need for tech, otherwise none really
or if you need commander xp for oil cap stages, d3 war archives are oil capped

[stark quiver]

wtf i only have 160 toolkits

[agile patrol]

what about doing them for steam catas or washing machines?

WHAT

[dark hazel]

farming for gear you get from tech boxes/lab isn't worth it

[violet grail]

Same, apparently thats totally fine to waste those.

[dapper token]

mlb ships gave out tech point right

[proven current]

I Have been wondering, many people says that i should not use the PRX Data packs, but why?

i dont remember what they said about "you can convert them into...."

[dark hazel]

Xp is easy to get with time, analyzing them gives prototype core to buy gear that takes more time to get than the xp
you click on the xp packs in your depot to analyze/convert them

[dapper token]

should i try to get proto tenrai or the georgia gun first from the shop

[proven current]

how good is these gears? are they worth it?

[dark hazel]

they are significantly more valuable than the xp, yes. I'll try and find the priority picture/link, one sec

[proven current]

valuable in what terms?

[proven current]

are they gears that can change the direction significantly in the sorties?

[dark hazel]

^there's the pic. and yes.

[dapper token]

aight theen so flandre and gascogne gun first right

[viscid swift]

Champagne not Gascogne

[proven current]

Oohhh i see, welp, i will spend all the rest and just use the series 4 for any waifu

[dark hazel]

Another big reason why using the xp packs isn't worth it is because you need blueprints to star up research ships, and it takes longer to get those than it does to get the xp to unlock the ship. It is never worth it to use them for xp if you're willing to be patient

[proven current]

Interesting

[dapper token]

ohhh okaay

[quartz nest]

How good are Hestia and Ryu?

[soft raft]

[silent hearth]

is there anyway to make this go away automatically? so i can zone out and watch videos ECT while it runs.

[eternal moth]

Use these settings.

[eternal moth]

Hestia is the best of the repair ships, which isn't saying much. Ryu is decent, although I don't know who to compare her to.

[silent hearth]

awesome ty!

omg thats so nice~~~ that has been such a pain in the @$$ lol

[eternal moth]

Glad to be of service.

[muted delta]

does the war archive stages count for hestia trust accumulation?

[hushed sorrel]

not sure about that but i would trust the reward preview the game gives

as such it would be a no, but you may try it a single time

[muted delta]

yeah tried a stage, nope

[agile patrol]

should auto exchange item in strategic search be turned on?

[frozen stag]

is war archives worth doing for gear prints

[rapid shard]

No

[knotty jolt]

if you're doing stuff on auto there's no reason not to have it on

[rapid shard]

Drop rate is shit for gear prints

[frozen stag]

damb so war archives is just not worth to do ill stick to spamming 12-4

[knotty jolt]

war archives is worth doing

just not for gear prints, you do them for the ships for tech etc

[dark hazel]

it's only for ships for tech or before you have oil cap really, if you're at 12-4 there's probably no reason for you to be there

[rapid shard]

Yeah war archives only good to grab ships for tech

[knotty jolt]

of the gear that is actually worth getting, the cosmic kicks from a past muse event is not a bad option

[rapid shard]

Its just a nice bonus if the ship you want has a good gear print drop as well

[knotty jolt]

though it is a large investment due to how many runs you need to do to get it

[hushed sorrel]

i dont know if that even does more than activating the action points items. yes/no might depend if you got the time for lots of auto-runs

[topaz smelt]

its only good for getting faction tech ships

[dark hazel]

iirc that option is for exchanging with the siren constructs for energy matrices, I don't think it uses ap boxes

[hushed sorrel]

your right, thx. activating this would be good

[spark patio]

wat is the new permanent for?

[eternal moth]

Tempesta? Pirate ships

[silent hearth]

one thing to note with this is that having auto exchange on makes it so that you cant 'smash it'. Smashing then intercepting gives you a chance at getting an AP box, while i dont think you can do so with the siren data logging tower. smashing the box will also give you slightly better rewards.

[spark patio]

guys, are pirate subs good to clear weekly 75?

[silent hearth]

Though to follow up on what i said above im not entire sure if having it off means that you might end up just ignoring the box entirely and moving onto the next map when you have strategic search on. ill test this when i can.

[quiet kiln]

What's the incentive to using either a dive bomber or a torpedo bomber? Assuming free plane slots like on essex and implacable

[rain vine]

auto exchange doesnt do anything with data logging towers

[atomic solstice]

royal fortune can solo if u have her

[silent hearth]

i meant with the boxes. Do you know if it will just ignore the boxes (the ones that give you an option to exchange or smash), or if it smashes them?

[rain vine]

it exchanges the power cell

[silent hearth]

if you have the exchange option off

[spark patio]

1500 core data?

[rain vine]

that i dont know, unfortunately

[silent hearth]

ill test it when i see a siren box and let you know

[atomic solstice]

yup

[rapid shard]

More because they have unique gear you would have to buy as well. Unless you have it

[spark patio]

the canon things?

[rain vine]

just manual it with 3 conventional subs
if you dont already have her and need to buy her in core data, shes really expensive

[silent hearth]

how much harder is the lvl 95 one? i just unlocked it. i can barely do the 75 one XD

[late flame]

afk using royal fortune
-# disclaimer : its not worth picking up her AND her guns from core data shop, unless you have nothing else to spend on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmZ27PVEAs
-# it is hilarious to watch though

[rain bobcat]

where was the IJN timing sheet for rodney meta

[quiet kiln]

Should i use HE or AP for mobbing in world 13 and above on BBs

[rain bobcat]

ap

[icy mist]

Need 6 petite ships for a fleet like Hestia and Merkuria which other 4 are similar?

[viscid swift]

knock yourself out with the wiki or in game archives/momentos

[atomic solstice]

Can I make a functional sub fleet without 404?

[sweet delta]

i can't believe larsdb doesn't have each shipgirl's body measurements

[icy mist]

Iron blood subs

[atomic solstice]

any gold ones?

[tender lotus]

iirc 47 37 96 101 is the top

[icy mist]

You lacking u-81 which is good too but any gold iron can do the job just fine.

[topaz smelt]

realistically you wont find much of a noticeable difference between top comps

[atomic solstice]

Ill just do 101 96 37 then

[sweet delta]

MLB 404 > 2LB 404 > flasher fishpack > top wolfpack > your wolfpack 96 37 101

[spark patio]

Can i do I 404 I 58 and I 26?

[sweet delta]

you can, but 26 is bad

[atomic solstice]

awesome

[spark patio]

how abt nautilus

[sweet delta]

nautilus is one of the best purple subs

[silent hearth]

im using I-404 with U-101 and U-37, i was originally using Archerfish with U-47 (with I-404) but switched when i saw the wolfpack buffs. Is it worth using just 2 wolfpack over archerfish+I-404+w/e?

Not that it REALLY matters atm since i dont have dupes. Archerfish is the only other MLB sub i have ATM so ill probably swap her back in now that my U-101 and U-37 is stuck at 70...

[rain bobcat]

wtf causes this btw

[silent hearth]

too much sunlight

[viscid swift]

desync

[rain bobcat]

is there a fix

[late flame]

just restart the game

[rain bobcat]

yeah but that is copium when it happens every 30 mins

[viscid swift]

try fix and repair assets

[silent hearth]

my issue is when the game desides to keep going during a fight but all ships stop moving... still cant figure out a fix for it.

[atomic solstice]

and all these guys use bidders right?

[silent hearth]

bidders are considered the best yes.

[knotty jolt]

The g7e acoustic are also used commonly

[rain bobcat]

its not the best

its just better for people who have no reload tech and cats

[topaz smelt]

theyre situationally better depending on oxy/rld

[atomic solstice]

well i just made 6 of them so they better be the best

[topaz smelt]

its game of breakpoints
g7e no snorkel > bidder no snorkel > g7e snorkel > bidder snorkel

[silent hearth]

not argueing mind you, but why have i been told bidder is the best gold multiple times and the damn mini-guide says the same thing? >.> looking at the wiki and it doesnt look all that great either. what am i missing

[silent hearth]

ah i think i read your message backwards, so bidder with snorkel is top?

[topaz smelt]

bot

[viscid swift]

among other factors this is a guide not trying to take into account timings and more aimed at casual players

and while the G7e is situationally better this usually relies in hitting reload breakpoints which means good cats among other things

so as a just slap it on and don't think type of deal, the bidder is better

[late flame]

TL;DR bidders until you have reload cats + wanna min-max reload and such

[topaz smelt]

theres a difference between catering to newbs and being correct, this is prob doing neither

catering to newbs why is 95kai there? and oxys
being correct, g7e is competitive

[viscid swift]

95 kai was basically to cover the rainbows, and Oxys can be comptetive, suchi mainly did the sub stuff though

[topaz smelt]

ye he was never known to be good with gear

[viscid swift]

also I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-RCkptfzsE

[topaz smelt]

95kai is only really viable for mobbing

[rain bobcat]

pretty sure he has stated that t95 is only the best for mobbing

he prob just didn't put or specify in the site because he can't be assed if people asked about it multiple times if it wasn't on the list

[viscid swift]

if there was enough of a difference as to make it meaningful we would have split mob and boss recs we would have

[topaz smelt]

its funny how he said i wont take his advice when hes the one who blocked me

its funny how his numbers look the exact same as mine but - like 5 rld

[ornate narwhal]

Is hestia worth using?

[misty tree]

Not really

[ornate narwhal]

Is she better than LI?

[topaz smelt]

wait the formula is correct, this mf is just gaslighting

its actually just overly simplified

[knotty jolt]

repair ships are worse then even common rarity backlines cause they provide no extra damage

[rapid shard]

I missed that notification lol I remember him talking bout it that day. Nice to see the the actual breakdown of it

[topaz smelt]

funny how he makes this vid after claiming breakpoints dont exist

[vale spindle]

with bidder, it has the most forgiving breakpoints for reload, so you are guaranteed to get maximum damage output under basically every scenario
on some submarines its the only torpedo that gives you maximum damage output too

also its magnetic so the lower damage per torpedo is compensated by hitting more things more often

[silent hearth]

Just confirmed when you have the exchange items turned off you will ignore the boxes entirely and not attempt to smash. soon as i flipped it back on it tried to use it (which we knew)

[winter plover]

A full BB ship fleet is viable ? I don't like CV/CVL much. My highest record is complete chapter 13
Edit: I still use Unicorn as healer.

[vale spindle]

you can optimize with other torpedoes if you want to min max damage (see linked video), but if you are braindead one option for everything then its the easiest one to put on everyone without griefing

[viscid swift]

for what

[winter plover]

for chapter 14/15 and Op Siren
Oh wait, I still use Unicorn as healer.

[viscid swift]

mob and boss? yes but it'd be extrodinairly difficult not least of which because you're not using Unicorn and most of the good healers for that matter

and what's your dislike of CVs anyway

[winter plover]

sorry, I edit my message.

[viscid swift]

even if you use Unicorn it's still a massive PIA

[winter plover]

oh, this is tier list for chapter 14-15

[viscid swift]

it's for end game content as a whole from the perspective of someone who has everything yes

[silent hearth]

doesnt 15 has some 'backup' fleet mechanic btw that you want CV/CVL for? i dont know the details

[viscid swift]

yes

[late flame]

support fleet

[topaz smelt]

it looks the exact same as my sheet with lower tolerences, prob some update changed how barrages interact with torps cuz i rmbr them cucking

[viscid swift]

like, you can do all of that content without CVs but it would just be self inflicted pain/challenge

[winter plover]

then I will take Shinano over New jersey. Ty

[viscid swift]

which would require you to in some cases massively comprimise in other areas

[silent hearth]

bruhhhh.

[viscid swift]

also just sounds like you haven't been using good CVs

[vale spindle]

i don't think an update affected that

suchi accounts for reload buffs whilst you don't thats the main difference, if you accounted for reload buffs the values would be a lot closer

[topaz smelt]

well hes got a calc but his static sheet prob still doesnt account for rld buffs

[vale spindle]

isn't the static sheet just his actual tested game data

[rapid shard]

Shinano is the better pick over NJ. At MLB you'll get more use out of shinano than NJ has been hard powercrept by all the new URs. Shinano is still one of the top CVs

[topaz smelt]

idk go ask him

[winter plover]

I guess so, my good CV (i guess ?) is Enterprise, August von Parseval, Independence retrofit, Ark Royal retrofit

[topaz smelt]

all i took from the site is some formula -10 rld

[vale spindle]

yep it is

[topaz smelt]

i highly doubt it was tested tho

[vale spindle]

its just damage stuff not reload stuff though

[silent hearth]

those are pretty good CVs, did you put any levels in their skills? get any decent planes?

[winter plover]

Oh, they have max skill, I still try to get good equipment for them.

[topaz smelt]

i prob have to retest barrages cuz i do remember them cucking since that was the entire reason for the delay

[silent hearth]

ok why is it you dislike CV/CVL so much over BB?

[vale spindle]

have fun with that whilst i just bidder everyone

[topaz smelt]

regardless, my calcs are correct, he just cant understand math

[vale spindle]

more effort to gear nothing against them personally i just would rather change 1 bb main gun over changing 3 planes

[silent hearth]

in terms of a RPG think of your CV/CVL as the caster class. you wouldnt want to go into battle with only warriors right?

[winter plover]

i dunno, they missed converging torpedo many time.

[vale spindle]

then don't use converging torpedoes

converging only good against specific bosses with a specific timing and/or using a specific slow support to enable that timing

[winter plover]

eh ? I thought it is used for boss battle ?

[rapid shard]

Converging only works on slow/non moving bosses without proper fleet setup

[ornate narwhal]

Is ryu lion good?

[vale spindle]

its used on boss battle where

• your cv timing matches boss stop timing OR
• your cv timing matches slow support timing (august, implacable, etc.)

also in some stages if you have only cv then the suicide rammer thingies can kill you

or if you don't have fighter planes with interception the enemy planes can kill you

[silent hearth]

you can just hold off on the CV to match it up right? is there any downsides to doing so?

[viscid swift]

well we are primarily auto players here for one

[vale spindle]

no downsides except maybe if you hold too long then you might miss a last strike due to the timer ending before your reload is back up
also manual effort xd

[winter plover]

So I could stgop use Converging torpedo and still clear all end-game map ?
Cool !

[vale spindle]

yes !

[rapid shard]

On mobbing setups you want to parallel torp planes like berguet wyvern etc

[winter plover]

Fck, I should stop watch youtube hightlight. -_-

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[wind hazel]

you're not advised to use converging torpedo for campaign in the first place

[ornate narwhal]

Help pls

[silent hearth]

fair, but is there any downsides to holding onto a CV barrage? so long as you dont end up holding until the 2nd reload right?

[vale spindle]

shes good but nothing exceptional

[viscid swift]

you mean airstrike right?

[silent hearth]

^yes

[ornate narwhal]

Is she a tank or dps

[vale spindle]

no other downsides to holding cv airstrike manually, just gotta make sure your vanguard doesn't die and you aren't missing out on an extra airstrike

[viscid swift]

well know but in campaign especially, you're rarely gonna get the boss stationary long enough to be able to launch and the planes and oridnance travel to hit everything

[vale spindle]

because when a ship has an airstrike ready it doesn't automatically reload the next one, you need to fire the existing one first (with some exceptions)

[rapid shard]

Vast majority of YouTube content is shit tbh

[silent hearth]

mmk, i was a little worried that it slowed the 2nd load time or something.

[viscid swift]

even if you memorize in advance of when the boss will stop and launch your airtsike just ahead of that

the likelihood that it all lines up is just not high and honestley too much effort

[winter plover]

Could you name some vanguard ship buff CV/CVL damage while also tanky ? Without locked from event ?

[silent hearth]

I hold my airstrikes on the Yuudachi Meta fight till the fker stops moving altogether XD

[stiff isle]

For the Island Minigame thing, how exactly do i "Buy an outfit from season shop"? There's nothing outfitwise to purchase....

[viscid swift]

not to mention in campaign, especially later stages you need to clear preboss mobs and enemies around the boss so hold your airstrikes to hit the boss and using single target planes is really ill advised

[vale spindle]

#1422463299877867540 ask here

[viscid swift]

Yuudachi is stationary for most of the fight, at least for 4 strike BBs

[rapid shard]

Yeah you dont have to try hard to time salvos/strikes on her

[silent hearth]

yeah at about the 35 second mark or something she stops moving.

juuuuust before the 2nd reload on my airstrikes

[rapid shard]

#gameplay-help message

Full breakdown of the fight

[viscid swift]

what are you even using for Yuudachi META

[topaz smelt]

likely poverty

[silent hearth]

Hakuhou mainly is my CV for Yuudachi

[viscid swift]

she's light armor so I doubt you have HVARs to use on your CVs

[silent hearth]

naw, but a full converaging torp build and it does pretty good dmg

[viscid swift]

honestley just triple BB Mk6 that shit

[rapid shard]

^^^ works with zero effort

[viscid swift]

I'd rather take Oumi from the same event over Hakuhou for Yuudachi META

[topaz smelt]

hoe is kinda ass vs non heavy

[silent hearth]

ive ran a few differnt tests and theres only about a 10% difference between auto 3BB and 2BB with Hakuhou, but its the difference between 4 fights vs 5 fights and my girls are thirsty bitches so even that 10 oil lol

[viscid swift]

what gear were you running exactly

[silent hearth]

Oumi+NJ are my usual BBs on her

[knotty jolt]

We've had them try triple bbs with HE guns but it didn't go well

[viscid swift]

what

[knotty jolt]

Tbf their nj is 5/6 limit break

[rapid shard]

Thats the issue then

[topaz smelt]

i think theres more issues than that

[silent hearth]

not the absolute best, but pretty decent

[topaz smelt]

5 fight means theyre doing like 300k

[viscid swift]

I mean +10ing those catapults for one would help

[knotty jolt]

this was their damage

[wind hazel]

😭

[viscid swift]

gear must be complete ass to pull that

[late flame]

oof

[rapid shard]

Im running NJ/Oumi/WarspiteRetro and its consistent 2-3 to clear her depending on rng from missing due to not having enough rld for 4th salvo

[silent hearth]

NOPE! lol i got her MLB last night, and i usually have +10 launchers on her

[viscid swift]

and why isn't helena being used

[topaz smelt]

my vg does more than that

[knotty jolt]

congratz on the mlb

[viscid swift]

why the fuck is she running FDG gun and not an Mk6

[silent hearth]

thanks

[knotty jolt]

but yeah her skills are still ass levels

[viscid swift]

her skills also aren't max level

[rapid shard]

That NJ dmg makes me very sad

[wind hazel]

it's +13 xD

[viscid swift]

like, there's a whole host of issues here

[silent hearth]

yeah i fk'ed up, we went over this the other night this monster. I could run the mk6 on her but i dont want to invest the gold plates to +13 one just yet

[viscid swift]

24k damage NJ is disatrously low

[silent hearth]

and that was B4 i MLB'ed her

[viscid swift]

I'm saying a +10 Mk6 would be better with Helena

[silent hearth]

shes getting around 60k now

[rapid shard]

Here is a much better NJ setup

[wind hazel]

60k is still ridiculously low

[topaz smelt]

doubt hes got hpfcrs

[silent hearth]

i tested it vs a mk 6 +10 and she got around 20k more dmg with the +13

[topaz smelt]

prob doesnt have FEs on either

[silent hearth]

no hpfcrs yet

[rapid shard]

Black shell works fine in place of it

[tropic tusk]

ok i found out the reason i cant auto run w15-4

[silent hearth]

yeah i just got the 2nd white shell, working on a second black shell until i get the hpfcrs

[tropic tusk]

the ai donest walk to the refill ammo thingy aftrer 5 battle

[topaz smelt]

never has

[knotty jolt]

It's been like that for ages and idk why they don't change it

It'd be so nice if they did

[wind hazel]

true

[silent hearth]

im getting close to a few craftables but still got a bit more

[viscid swift]

1. it's never been necessary
2. considering the game as is is being held together with duck tape and prayers....

[knotty jolt]

having ammo atleast would make farming faster as you wouldn't need to deal with those extra fights at half damage

[plain saffron]

how bad are hestia

[viscid swift]

she's a repair ship, need I say more

[knotty jolt]

compared to repair ships the best, compared to everything else bad af

[topaz smelt]

how bad are ARs

[plain saffron]

so you could it's the best repair ship?

[viscid swift]

this is why I run a repair ship these days

me personally i still consider Vestal the best repair ship

at least for my purposes

[knotty jolt]

idk if i could even do that in 14-4 as i'm trying to farm for the SR drop

[silent hearth]

is there anyway to tell wtf this is other then going around comparing the picture to match it?

[viscid swift]

you don't

[knotty jolt]

That's champagne's gun

[viscid swift]

but again, building a fleet to consistently farm on safe isn't that diffiuclt

[plain saffron]

where's jean bart gun available again, only core data?

[viscid swift]

just takes some refining

[knotty jolt]

it's in gear lab too but why craft it

[viscid swift]

and gear lab

[plain saffron]

which is cheaper

[knotty jolt]

gear lab cheaper

[viscid swift]

for you it's difficult to say

personally I'd say Core Data because wtf are you gonna spend it on these days but

[topaz smelt]

which ever is faster

[stark quiver]

sup gph

[plain saffron]

i have 8k so it's enough

[viscid swift]

see

[knotty jolt]

I mean ya can never have enough shells

[viscid swift]

meh, I stopped leveling BBs a long time ago

[stark quiver]

same

[barren token]

In OpSi is it possible to retreat from a siren stronghold and return to it later, or does it collapse on itself vanishing like the hidden zones?

[viscid swift]

and where is your max BB tech

[topaz smelt]

i stopped reccing black shells

[knotty jolt]

yes you can retreat

[silent hearth]

yes you can retreat without losing it

[knotty jolt]

A stupid thing i did when i was still to weak to do strongholds reliably was retreat, go to port, repair then just throw myself back in till i won

[silent hearth]

speaking of tech, i finally got 900 sakura and am working on my love ~~~

[ivory pawn]

I wouldn't call that stupid. Well, maybe you should've used more Repair packs.

[viscid swift]

ok...