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wind hazel
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yes, even CL doesn't necessarily mean more AA

bold peak
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Well ig there's laffey and z46, imma shut up

bold peak
wind hazel
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again, hull doesn't determine their role

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i can use z52 trafalgar and eldridge, triple DD, yet their AA are great

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put in avrora, a CL, and the fleet AA might be worse

peak fable
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Fighters are +6 Corsairs, I have 2 Air Radars in there, just +3, AA guns are all +8 purples. I don't think any other gear matters here, because vanguard survivability is not the issue.

wind hazel
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look i cannot help you if you dont help me. show me their loadout, everyone in the mob

dusty gulch
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Hey so on Hard Mode I think I normally defeat all escort fleets by retreating a few times and then clear the hard mode stage to get my 3 star rewards, but this time I cleared the stage first and then went in and killed the remaining escort fleets and did a retreat but didn't see any rewards pop up. Am I screwed? I cleared the stage again and didn't see any cog arrays rewarded.

wind hazel
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they only drop from boss

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not killing boss=no stage reward

dusty gulch
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oh that's terrible.

atomic abyss
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On the other hand

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Not killing boss means no attempts used

dusty gulch
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umm yeah but I just care about the 3-star reward of 25 cog arrays.

rain bobcat
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I don't see the prolem here

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did u actually 3 star it

dusty gulch
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Yeah but idk if I got the rewards since I retreated after I got to 3 stars. No popup or mission or anything saying I got rewarded.

autumn walrus
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hello, is there any different between the servers??

for beginner, which servers should I choose??

rain vine
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unless theres a specific guild that you want to join, it doesnt matter which server you choose

autumn walrus
rain vine
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any of them

atomic abyss
hallow mountain
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Is Hestia any good as an AR ship?

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It has actually been 8 years since we got a new one

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I hope they get the hint and give Kashino a retrofit

rain bobcat
atomic abyss
atomic abyss
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It has been like, 3

dusty gulch
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Oh man I think I'm just trippin.

atomic abyss
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Last repair ship before Hestia was vestal meta

boreal wagon
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also kashino isnt even a repair ship so its not even related

hallow mountain
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I read her skills and I found that she gives dmg buffs which seems interesting

atomic abyss
hallow mountain
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And she's apparently the best healer ship (AR) so far?

atomic abyss
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But consider she literally does no surface damage

wind hazel
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it's good if you wanna rig vanguard MVP for 12-1 farm

atomic abyss
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And the buffs are just a nice bonus

hallow mountain
boreal wagon
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no?

atomic abyss
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Why would that help anything

hallow mountain
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Yeah I know she'll still suck but I have no idea how they'll fix her

atomic abyss
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Just making them not part of your 2 fleets would help a lot

boreal wagon
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thatd just hurt even more bc you are removing a main fleeter instead RaoraHands

hallow mountain
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Maybe if they'll make it so that she can equip Yamato guns for herself

atomic abyss
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Ok that's enough coping

native robin
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I need a healer that packs a punch, I can put her in a fleet for bossess

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This healer is Unicorn ain't she?

inland shoal
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I mean idk what you want to use Unicorn in a fleet for bosses for

rain vine
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you shouldnt need a healer on boss fleet
if you do need one, aquila would be the best option

whole crypt
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why do you need a healer for a boss fleet to start with

grave mantle
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Volga can also help with healing, though she will heal less consistent, and she is also a proper CV

peak fable
grave mantle
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Getting powerful healer is more restrictive than getting proper vanguard

peak fable
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im more wondering what he is using on his mob fleet if not unicorn xd

grave mantle
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Maybe Perseus

peak fable
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I hope so

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Is this gun good for anything

gilded carbon
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If we're already talking healers, how far off is Zuihou by now?

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Aside from rare. And with a Skill for Submarines ^^`

atomic abyss
atomic abyss
peak fable
atomic abyss
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It'll work

peak fable
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Alright ty

gilded carbon
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If she is an ok healer

atomic abyss
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Aquila is the best of the secondary healers

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A very very good investment

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Given she can run a different load out for preload instead of healing

violet grail
# peak fable

Ive got 4 of those without particularly doing anything to get them. Just seems easy to get. I think all my vanguard ships have it as secondary gun, dont really have any better options yet personally.

rain bobcat
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its the 12-4 drop thats why

spark patio
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what is the best thing to whale?

flint frigate
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Is the z flag from core ltd good?

rain bobcat
safe nexus
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what the max tuning for opsi?

wind hazel
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max effective 203 203 156, max number 999

gilded carbon
safe nexus
silent hearth
wind hazel
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opsi doesn't take oil

boreal wagon
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its doable without spending any oil but takes quite some time and is somewhat rng dependent (and it is also pointless)

wind hazel
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AkashiHide if you're c1 spammer, you'll get there soon

safe nexus
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c1 spammer for what again?

silent hearth
wind hazel
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free exp, more AP

boreal wagon
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you can but you dont need to

wind hazel
safe nexus
wind hazel
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exp is a side bonus

silent hearth
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yeah i wouldnt bother, im just saying i thought you could XD

safe nexus
wind hazel
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mainly to get more AP, to repeat more c3/c5 for materials

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it's kinda shit, because the rewards are marginal increase

silent hearth
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o.0 you get a decent amount of AP boxes from it? thats good to know

safe nexus
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use more AP fto get more AP cool

silent hearth
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i run out of things to do, so this will at least give me something to do tomorrow.

wind hazel
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make sure to buy AP box from akashi AkashiHide would be funny if you skip the encounter in your setting

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also dont try without safety net of 800~1k ap in hand

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bf109g
or use BB+mk2/6/7

silent hearth
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https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

The gear lab gives the best suggestions on which you should get from gear lab first, its better to go with its' suggestions then try to get a piece that might work in one situation better. some things will give you a much bigger over-all boost in more areas.

frozen stag
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how good is ryu lion

inland shoal
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Decent

safe nexus
violet grail
safe nexus
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😭

coarse lance
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So what are you all farming for event points? Feels really weird that there are no event stages to do this time. I haven't touched main story stages in ages...

violet grail
dapper token
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Is there a way to speed up dr print income

novel solstice
floral latch
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@wind hazel hey uhh, Mor? Better medium or small research?

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I only have the D ones. Just finished the gold Q that is 30 minute

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The ones I mention rn is blue and purple D

violet grail
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This is what I saw people post yesterday about research.

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So presumably you are asking between 2.5h D and 5h D, in which case you would prefer 2.5h as long as it doesnt cost cubes?

floral latch
floral latch
azure coyote
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Hestia and Ryu worth it?

floral latch
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Wait wait.

violet grail
floral latch
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I changed my mind. I'll use the coins even if I have little amount.

floral latch
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Hmm... sadly no free rn.. Guess the cube should do for a bit.

violet grail
azure coyote
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Ain't no way blud is using his cubes for research

floral latch
violet grail
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heck no, dont use cubes

floral latch
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Roger, no cube using

violet grail
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refresh if you have it, if not take something that costs t1 or t2 plates or the cheapest coin one if theres like a 1.5k one

floral latch
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I'll take the research that needs me to use 3k, so I will only had 5k left.

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There is nothing else there sadly. It's 3/5k coin or 3/6 cubes

violet grail
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aight 3k then

novel solstice
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Also, if you are that short on coins: try to push the main campaign until you are at least at w9, your coin income goes up dramatically once you are into oilcap land.

violet grail
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i thought he was w11 or 12 already, might be confusing with someone else

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im finally managing to sit at around 30k coins most of the time now that im on 12-4 and done with mlbs and retros for current ships, feels nice not to be below 5k all the time.

floral latch
azure coyote
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Is hestia and ryu worth it?

floral latch
violet grail
azure coyote
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Can't expect much from collab ships so idk what I was expecting

violet grail
floral latch
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Current state.

10k oil, 6k coins. W9 just finished. Even though 9-3 and 4 aren't fully triple star yet.

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Push to 10 or triple them first?

violet grail
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push till 11 if you can, 11-1 is a big xp spike

floral latch
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Hopefully the oils are enough.

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I'm currently had 2400 in refinery waiting to be taken. But can't because my limit is 7400

violet grail
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is that just oil on hand, or including mail rewards from maintenances?

floral latch
violet grail
floral latch
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I tried press it but keep says over limit unable to take

violet grail
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anyways good luck with chapter 10

floral latch
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Uhh hang on.. What's this storage thing in the mail?

violet grail
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uh sec ill screenshot

floral latch
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I have 39k oil and 32k coin waiting to be withdrawn?

hushed sorrel
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yes if its in the storage

violet grail
hushed sorrel
floral latch
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Ahhh I see

violet grail
rapid shard
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Leave oil in mail till you need it for event farming unless you really want to push campaign

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same with coins.

violet grail
summer niche
floral latch
violet grail
rapid shard
summer niche
# floral latch Ahhh I see

It's like free extra storage, so don't claim them unless you need them, so you can maximize use of free/daily sources... what I've heard at least.

summer niche
violet grail
# summer niche That was my suspicion, thanks for confirm.

while you are low on coins, just do free research, once you get to chapter 12 you will start to have way more coins available. if no free research, refresh or take the cheapest available even if its super long, just to have some research going.

rapid shard
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Also the rigging projects take plates instead of coins so you can mix those in

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and if your lacking good gear rigging projects will help a ton

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for example

summer niche
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Next question... Is It Wrong to Pick Up Girls in A Dungeon event...
I'm a beginner leveling my first team.
Should I slot here in my main team temporarily and just jet her ride their coattails?

I've just started making my way through the main campaign chapter 4 with them, though they're clearly overleveled for it already, just from the time I've taken to 3* levels, plus a little time in the early Amahara stages before that event ended..

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Oops, meant to posty my fleet with that.

onyx flame
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there no need to slot hestia in

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just grind more campaign and you still get her by the end

violet grail
atomic abyss
summer niche
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Yeah, I just don't know if I can guarantee being able to play every day, so time saved is good.
I'm probs fine, just don't want to get scroyed, lol.

rapid shard
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Just doing normal playing youll finish it no issue. the requirments are super low. even if you miss a day catch up is easy

soft raft
rapid shard
violet grail
rapid shard
summer niche
onyx flame
soft raft
rapid shard
summer niche
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Makes sense. Enemy hit stat goes up I presume.

onyx flame
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even less if your at higher campaign (idk if the double plan affect trust but if it doesn you can half the amount too)

vapid valve
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I have been using hestia as a punching bag tbh

summer niche
violet grail
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She do be a monster for damage.

rapid shard
summer niche
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Here are the ships I have available. Suggestions for swaps?
(And where should I go to help me guesstimate for myself? 700 is a lot of ships. xP )
#gameplay-help message

split gazelle
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What options do you have available from Medal Shop?

summer niche
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Everything I've pulled up to that day. Let me check if I have new.

rapid shard
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Yeah just open up a thread and post your full dock in there

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Dont want to flood this channel

summer niche
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My Dock 10-10-2025

half magnet
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/crossfleet

late flame
eternal moth
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What's the best anti-light fleet now that doesn't include Implacable?

wind hazel
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lion soyna

eternal moth
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And then for vanguard, I assume you include Sirius and Traf?

wind hazel
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z52 ply traf, helena if you wanna gamba

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AkashiHide kirovM+helena if 1 strike or something

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but that's another setup i think

eternal moth
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Ply and Helena are in another fleet, so I'll stick with Sirius for now. Not like light's hard to kill. Thanks.

dapper token
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after anchorage whats the next pr ship to get

grizzled mortar
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I can develop either harbin or Plymouth next, and have twice as many prints for harbin - should I start with her?

timid vortex
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kashino's kit is weird. What gear is best for her? TamaBootleg

tame jungle
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you're best off not using her at all

ivory pawn
atomic abyss
grizzled mortar
tropic tusk
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thankyou now give the rule a read (no gif allow)

timid vortex
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I-ll-ignore-that.gif

rapid summit
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I want to get mecklenburg gun for bzwei but don’t know if I should start it yet should I focus on it or wait?

wind hazel
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why havent you been focusing it yet

sick kettle
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why does the guide says that flapjack has higher aa than tigercat despite of their same gun damage?

atomic abyss
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flies more slowly, can shoot more

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@sick kettle

sick kettle
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well just realized that both of them got different flying speed, thanks lol, guess ill be crafting more of those eyesore

viscid swift
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and better intercept cooldown time

rapid summit
wind hazel
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gear focus your research, that's about it

rapid summit
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So if I see it In one of the research just go for it?

viscid swift
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depends on your preference of ships or gear first

mystic heron
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which ones do i buy rainbow bulins for? i only have 104288 specialized cores + 2 ur bulins at dock

weary edge
red sapphire
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Newbie question. Is the armor break from Tenrai the same as Barracuda (831 Squadron)? And, should I buy the second mentioned?

stark quiver
vapid valve
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is it any good to focus on the large projects on the research side

red sapphire
kind orbit
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i think my game is bwoken

viscid swift
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that's just desync

stark quiver
stark quiver
viscid swift
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and I-404

mystic heron
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okey RenownThumbsUp

red sapphire
short wagon
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aichi b7a good?

viscid swift
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yes

short wagon
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should i use it over prototype saiun kai?

red sapphire
short wagon
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implac

stark quiver
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depends on what gear the rest of your backline is using

short wagon
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do i make a thread and just send ss

stark quiver
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sure

viscid swift
red sapphire
wind hazel
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AkashiHide and most likely wont be saiun, impla is fast

viscid swift
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try and get your CVs to ideally launch within 0.2 seconds of each other with Implac going 2nd

red sapphire
short wagon
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gear

viscid swift
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what

red sapphire
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0.5s Oops

weary edge
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im like 100% getting tenrai from protocore shop right

viscid swift
wind hazel
weary edge
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oh da? i thought tenrai was #1 prio in proto shop

wind hazel
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no

red sapphire
weary edge
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hmm, allow me to consult the graphs 🤓

red hawk
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Tenrai costs a ton, and can be crafted

viscid swift
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crafting it is also expensive

red hawk
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that's why it's not prio in proto shop

wind hazel
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it is priority, but after AP guns

viscid swift
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what

red hawk
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I was literally told to craft my first one in this channel

viscid swift
wind hazel
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craft with blueprints

red hawk
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then I got told differently by someone

sick kettle
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is it best to spread out gold plates or just try getting 13+ one by one?

viscid swift
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the reccomendation is usually the one from the prototype shop and one from the gear lab

wind hazel
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tell that guy fakyu

red hawk
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because they said I was wrong for buying it fromm proto

viscid swift
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they were wrong

red hawk
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oh well, you live and learn

wind hazel
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well you got trolled

stark quiver
red sapphire
rapid summit
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Is this decent for enterprise?

wind hazel
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it's the best DB on her vs med heavy

weary edge
# viscid swift

so like, these gold guns r better than the ur guns below it?

wind hazel
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different usage

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the 457 is a mobbing gun

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unless you're pilica

tribal flame
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yo i jus downloaded the game 😭😭dyu guys have any tips and does it really matter who i pull for?

wind hazel
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/guide read azurlaneecgc newbie tips

odd rootBOT
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rapid summit
weary edge
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and the pr blueprints in the protoshop u can convert into the bp u want right? or is it random

wind hazel
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dive bomber

rapid summit
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Okk ty

weary edge
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well right now im on w11 (not because im stuck, but bc im just lazy to progress lol), what gun do you recommend i get first? here's my list of characters for context

wind hazel
stark quiver
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what if they already have prexisting ones MutsukiHyperStare

wind hazel
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then they can use their common sense and deduct the amount they have with the needed amount

weary edge
# viscid swift

which one is the second top one bc they lowk look the same 😭😭 is it the one i have the least bps for 💔💔💔💔

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ok on my phone they look a lot different nvm

atomic solstice
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yup

weary edge
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i wish i was told this before the monthly reset now i gotta wait till next month to actually craft the gun 😭

atomic solstice
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90% of this game is realizing how inefficient you've been far too late

dapper token
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Okay hit me fam is the rerun event worth to pull

wind hazel
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no, but do event for the gun, it's great

dapper token
violet grail
# viscid swift

I just realized I did buy one of each of those top two at start of the month, but never ended up equipping the 380mm mle on anyone.

short wagon
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do ryusei kai and saiun work the same

red hawk
gilded carbon
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Any of the rerun-ships worth investing in?

red hawk
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because you didn't spend enough time double checking stuff on the guides and just kinda blindly looked at guns and didn't really make sure to get the right ones

wind hazel
violet grail
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I assume I should put the 380mm mle on my mob fleet BB aka nelson. was running triple 406mm MK6 on her

wind hazel
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it depends on where you're using her

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the AP guns are mainly bossing gun. can use on boss fleet for campaign but usually a bit slow for mob, 457 is preferred if you need AP gun on mob

weary edge
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the only gun i can craft rn is triple 406/45 mk7 should i NOT craft that

onyx flame
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it not very good so i wouldnt

red hawk
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the purple triple 406 is pretty standard for mobbing for awhile

rapid summit
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Is this decent for bzwei at world 12? I’m starting to focus on gear now

violet grail
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hmmm, idk Im not pushing to 13 yet until Ive levelled sandy. so I guess any gear improvements right now would be for opsi to try to handle abyssal c5 and c6

wind hazel
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use mk6

weary edge
rapid summit
sick kettle
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does the rerun event gear will be Craftable or we still had to wait

white musk
weary edge
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i currently have the mk6 on both hood and oumi rn lol

wind hazel
rapid summit
wind hazel
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just check the quick gear guide. if you dont see the gear listed there, it's usually not worth considering

onyx flame
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just make sure to read da disclaimer

weary edge
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i think at the rate im going im going to have mecklen gun before i even reach any pr4 ship lol

wind hazel
white musk
weary edge
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i just dev 30 my first pr1 ship, dont have enough tech points for even pr2 ships, and im at like 14/50 for mecklen gun

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should i just start developing another pr1 ship for the hell of it in the mean time

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i was thinking maybe monarch or ibuki

wind hazel
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do a filler, get faction tech for series 4 ships

weary edge
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well im trying for fdg and i alr dev30 roon so 💔

wind hazel
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azurlaneecgc has a good beeline guide on how to acquire them

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both avp and fdg share almost the same tech point AkashiHide

red hawk
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and agir is only slightly ahead of AVP right

white musk
red hawk
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for required fleet tech

wind hazel
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agir is 700

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more or less 2-3 more mlb ships

red hawk
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avp was 600 iirc?

weary edge
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yeah i alr finished catch up on fdg, started on anchorage but switched to roon once she got to dev30 for protocores

white musk
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Just coin them, use the catch up bp for proto shop

wind hazel
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nah catchup on FDG is fine,

white musk
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Free rainboe items BuckyPrideAnim

red hawk
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you can always start the combat data collection on another ship you want to build while you're getting fleet tech for another ship too

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so, if you can't quite dev the ship you want, just having CDC on another ship going temporarily isn't terrible

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I did that with monarch while I worked on IB fleet tech

weary edge
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y r there no uss ships in pr1 💔 i lowk gonna need the fleet tech for anchorage and kearsarge

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oh shit my laundry's done brb

red hawk
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feels like considering the way the guides go, if you're following most of it, you end up with a fair bit of EU Ships. Enty, Essex, Eldrige, Portland, Penny, Helena, Sandy, even your starter can be EU.

weary edge
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ig i can dev ibuki while i wait since il proly need jp fleet tech too

red hawk
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is oumi good enough to warrant awakening her to 125 at some point?

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she's currently my most powerful BB

atomic solstice
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what dr should i go for after fdg? agir?

gilded carbon
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120 will Work for most content

red hawk
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that's what I was told to do

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FDG->Agir while PR on Anchorage

violet grail
# red hawk is oumi good enough to warrant awakening her to 125 at some point?

I don't see why not, so far after a bit less than a month playing ive got three ships at 125 oumi being one of them and ive got enough cogs to awaken 3 more, but havent decided whom yet, probably hakuhou and san diego once they reach that level. oumi still definetly my strongest ship. I feel like I get enough cogs to not be too too stingy with them.

red hawk
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because 125 awakening cogs are far less available

red sapphire
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Should I pull for rerun ships incomming? Do you guys like the stuff there?

red hawk
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and the extra 5 levels on ships that aren't good isn't going to save them from being bad

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not that oumi is bad, I just wonder if she's good enough to be worth rating for end game

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over what I might get in the next month or two

atomic solstice
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yeah

red hawk
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and I already awakened a bunch of collab ships I liked so I'm really trying to be smart about where I put chips now

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because I'm in cog hell

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I have 57 chips atm

violet grail
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sounds like you've been playing for quite a bit longer than me. how would you say the rate of cogs compares to the rate at which you get rainbow bulins? coz if you save your cogs you're basically arguing you won't get enough new cogs in the time it will take you to acquire, mlb and level a better ship.

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So far to me it has felt like I've been getting enough cogs to awaken at least twice as many ships compared to how many UR's I could MLB in the same timeframe

atomic solstice
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looking up my favorite ships on the endgame tierlisr and seeing this makes me so sad lol

red hawk
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Ive been playing for a couple months, but I'm just at a point where I've started levelling a bunch of ships past 100, and it adds up, plus UR's cost more to awaken an I just did Hakuhou

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but you get I believe 2.5 UR bulins a month?

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plus any from events/cruise pass rewards

white musk
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Im a minnow at four months- Usually just buy cruise ship passes

The only thing Im upset about is missing lion by 10ish days ;-;

red hawk
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I started right before the atelier double collab but after lion

onyx flame
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its 2.5 if you include cruise pass, 2 is the monthly income from 5k spec from monthly and 3k from the medal shop

red hawk
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ok I couldn't remember if the 2.5 was with the medal spec cores or cruise pass

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it's everything but events counted

kind needle
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Mog or Traf? Who to mlb first?

weary edge
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i started like 1.5 weeks before hakuhou event started. is my dev progress saved if i start a different pr project?

red hawk
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yes

weary edge
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fire

red hawk
#

so like if you get caught between fleet tech levels and you can't quite get the ship you want, it's totally ok to start on another one temporarily

#

just like... make it one you'll actually want to use too

#

monarch is a decent BB for early

weary edge
#

that’s the one i started

red hawk
#

considering we don't get much right away, Ive seen her recommended after her augment for players needing a BB

weary edge
#

bc of hood and uni i should get the xp pretty easily

red hawk
#

just be aware she'll need an augment that'll run 21k gold

weary edge
#

i probably wont build her tbh

red hawk
#

I mean, you'll eventually do them all if you stick around long enough, but yeah, it's fine to just save some progress for later

#

and not waste the combat XP

summer niche
#

Kitting out Albion. These are my only non-blue fighters, just opened all T3 and up boxes.
Does the AVI stat make Seafang a lot better? Because otherwise the stats are looking lower. Just don't want to dump my books into it unless worth.

red hawk
#

gold seafang is acceptable but not ideal

rapid shard
red hawk
#

purple F4U corsair is the poverty choice

rapid shard
#

Bottom option isnt specifying seafang tho honestly any 2x 500pb fighter works till you flaps tigers or hornets

red hawk
#

that's why I said acceptable

hybrid bane
#

man i'm trying to maximize output for trying to auto 15-4 and solid start to clear op.siren hard boss always (the one from the middle). But i played the game on auto and without looking guides and thinking that the bunch of gear and bad use of goldplates i did so i really start to get overwhelmed, like got a triple 460mm UR +13 on musashi but i learned that the best was Kai kkkkkk

stark quiver
#

seafang is good

red hawk
#

and no, main stat isn't everything when rating gear, so just looking at gun FP, plane AVI and such isn't the best way to rate it's use

#

ammo type, bomb loadouts, fire rates, all that stuff can affect use case

#

which is why just sticking gold weapons everywhere isn't going to necessarily make you improve

#

and they cost more to improve

kind needle
#

If I'm running Amagi CV, Implac, Nano comp, should I use Fighter + 2 converging or Fighter DB TB on Implac?

atomic abyss
kind needle
atomic abyss
#

they will need to sync, that's the most important thing

kind needle
#

Is it normal to implac to go first by a second even tho amagi cv and nano have beacons?

atomic abyss
#

yes

kind needle
atomic abyss
#

so you would need to slow impla down

atomic abyss
kind needle
atomic abyss
#

lets see

viscid swift
#

Implacable wants to be 2nd

#

among other issues

kind needle
#

Should I adjust my planes...

sweet delta
#

Yes, why put Saiun on the fastest CV who's too fast?

atomic abyss
#

i just checked

#

impla and nano are synced lol

sweet delta
atomic abyss
#

amagi is the one that isnt synced

atomic abyss
kind needle
atomic abyss
#

i already made it work

half magnet
#

(cross fleet) is this outdated? I can't find any info ingame/wiki relevant to this

kind needle
#

Thanks for the helpNoteshiro

atomic abyss
#

a lot of things are never mentioned in game

#

but it very well does happen
tho it does bring the question, why are you even using repair ships in opsi

hazy olive
#

Is Ryu Lion worth a damn

atomic abyss
#

for end game content? no

#

she is good, but nothing op

hazy olive
atomic abyss
#

then she would be very useful for a future fleet 2

half magnet
bold peak
#

Question.. if you miss a meta ship event, will she be gone like forever?

atomic abyss
#

it doesnt exist on the wiki as far as im aware

bold peak
#

I thought you can get her anytime from meta shop

atomic abyss
#

if we talking about stuff like bearn or hiei meta who are event SRs

#

then they should rerun first

bold peak
#

Hoo I see

half magnet
bold peak
#

How about someone like kawakaze, I should just wait her until dossier released?

atomic abyss
#

correct

bold peak
#

Wiki doesn't say a lot about the event and stuff (or i just missed them)

wanton dawn
#

does this timing work with Agir? it should be within 5 seconds right?

bold peak
atomic abyss
#

agir slow is a meme

red sapphire
#

Hi, I'm trying to sync this with any slow sup but I think it's a bit too tight... any ideas?

wanton dawn
#

oh why is that lol

little tree
#

Agir wiffs

atomic abyss
#

not consistent because it misses, even with magnetics

#

the only viable vanguard slower is eldridge retro

sweet delta
#

Especially with mk 35

wanton dawn
#

ohhhh that makes sense🥀 shld just use eldridge then

sweet delta
#

Always has been

wanton dawn
bold peak
#

Is agir good with plume umbrella, legit?

sweet delta
#

No

atomic abyss
bold peak
#

Ok thanks just wondering

wanton dawn
red sapphire
sweet delta
#

Toolkit beats it in 15 seconds though

red hawk
#

from everything ive been told peter strasser "slow"" or whatever is sketchy af

wanton dawn
robust onyx
#

<@&460646206851252224>

atomic abyss
#

/kick 693466850595569734

odd rootBOT
#

em_phat#0 got kicked.

red sapphire
sweet delta
#

AvP > peter > ark > aegir for CV fleet with TBs

red sapphire
robust onyx
#

Torpedo bomber

rain vine
#

torp bomber

red sapphire
#

Oh okay thanks Noteshiro

sweet delta
#

The converging TBs

red sapphire
sweet delta
#

Yes just make her strike last

red sapphire
#

On my case I mean

robust onyx
#

As in 3rd to lunch

red sapphire
#

Thanks so much chat DorkHeart

desert cove
#

is the slaimuda github tier list a good representation of the equipment for ships

sweet delta
#

it represents gear that is least likely to be bad. Which effectively means that the gear isn't optimized for specific hard content

desert cove
#

wym hard content

sweet delta
#

i mean that if you play hard content, then you need to minmax a bit more than copying the top row of gear there

desert cove
#

ah ok

sweet delta
desert cove
#

ah yeah

#

ig you need to take those into consideration if ur minamxing

rose whale
#

Seems like we won't get a new banner anytime soon?

desert cove
#

im fine with that

#

should i use action recharges willy nilly or should i hoard em

desert cove
#

in opsi can u make the red port functional

#

oh that sucks

atomic solstice
#

should I get fdg to fs5 before starting getting agir to dev30?

red hawk
#

you only get the daily discount for a set number of uses a day, so if you're using them on FDG, it's going to make it so that Agir will cost more to coin up

strange sphinx
#

how many run do I need to do in 12-4 in theory to get hestia?

forest palm
red hawk
#

it depends if you're using her or not

#

I've been getting like 15 or so trust a sortie

#

without hestia in combat

forest palm
#

it's gonna be 100 runs w/o which is nothing really cirNom

primal blade
#

Is Hakuhou good? It feels like she does wet napkin damage compared to Shinano

#

(Both are not MLB yet, I'm testing them out together)

forest palm
#

well that's your problem, you're using two URs that aren't MLB and missing a majority of the damage

#

nothing of what you test with Non-MLB ships will mean anything

robust steeple
#

can someone link me a good meowofficer guide? pls

tidal fractal
#

could someone help me with 15-4 i cant 3 star it sorryshikikan

sweet delta
#

Did you get it to safe threat level before three star?

tidal fractal
#

ah well no not really i cant even clear lol i keep dying after the 2nd boss

flat fractal
#

generally when trying to level ships, does having it in the mob fleet give more exp overall per stage clear? on 12-4 if that matters

sweet delta
#

if you can't even clear it then why are you thinking about 3 star DunktsukiStare

tidal fractal
#

😔ur right i always try to clear all mobs first

sweet delta
flat fractal
last zenith
#

what is the fastest way to get Prototype Cores

#

I need musashi gun on mini

rose whale
#

Seems like we won't get a new banner anytime soon?

primal blade
atomic solstice
#

hakuhou much better if both mlb

primal blade
#

Or should I run Enterprise Essex instead

vague oracle
#

Did not know plymouth is research blueprints only

red hawk
#

isnt everything above PR4 not coinable

ivory pawn
#

PR5 golds are coinable.

#

Ply + Brest + PR6 and higher are not.

ivory pawn
#

After that who knows. WarShrug

rose whale
viscid swift
#

probably a Tempesta event

red hawk
#

is the fools scale event gear gun one of the named guns?

#

the triple 152 MLE

#

found it, it's Marseillaes

forest palm
#

I remember it being good if you don't have a Quad SpeeThink

grave mantle
hazy olive
#

Should I get Tashkent or Chapayev gun from core shop or neither?

viscid swift
#

no

vale spindle
#

Neither unless you are using a ship that specifically requires it in their skills

red hawk
stark quiver
#

mle good

#

i used to use it a lot

junior dragon
#

is there a reason this gun is flagged as 'important'

sweet delta
#

the devs said so. But the gun is good for Gangut (who is bad)

junior dragon
#

Ahh I was just cleaning my Depot and wasnt sure why it was hidden from th disaembly xd

waxen valley
#

unzen when

eternal basalt
celest tartan
#

ryu lion's event thing says "a new event mission will unlock everyday until..." yet does not specify what the event mission is and clicking go only takes you to the sortie page, not any specific mission. what are the missions?

sweet delta
#

kill 100 enemies]

#

you can check the bottom of the rewards list. The rewards list is in the poorly named Claim button

celest tartan
# sweet delta kill 100 enemies]

thanks, is there a level that is most efficient for this? like can i clear 4-1 twice in the same time it takes to clear 12-1 once making it more efficient?

sweet delta
#

I wouldn't care about efficiency, since just playing the game a little gives you enough already

sweet delta
vital meadow
#

what's the best UR gun to make from gear lab?

#

i have an extra 18 main gun thingy so i can make 2 UR main guns

rain bobcat
#

/gearlab

sweet delta
#

arent there only 2 choices, 100 kai and mk7

viscid swift
knotty jolt
#

and drake gun now that look

sweet delta
#

they dont use UR main gun thingies

knotty jolt
#

warshrug I mean i just skimmed and saw they asked ur gun didn't notice much on the second message

gritty spear
#

It is impossible to improve her satisfaction, so as I understand it, I should just ignore it? After all, she is a recruit, not the final Hestia. By the way, is there any way to differentiate between research tiers in the Research Academy? Because the game has taken up some truly wonderful trolling. It noticed that I was only five blueprints short of the 152 mm gun from Seattle, so now Tier II doesn't appear in my research at all. By this, I can't already get this gun, because I buy every blueprint from prototype shop. I must get five lacking from Research Academy.

sweet delta
#

season 1 to 4 projects don't appear unless you focus or no focus them, and that's for good reason because those projeects are horrible

#

Seattle gun also isn't worth griefing your research projects for a few days for

#

neither was it worth buying with protocore

subtle flare
#

will the clemenceau rerun event ships be added to permanent pool 2 years after the rerun?

viscid swift
#

around 9 months to a year after they rerun is the usual timeline

subtle flare
#

am recovering my cube stock, ik best practice is to only pull on collab banners that probably never come back

gritty spear
#

And what about this Hestia? Should I ignore that it's affinity is dropping down?

subtle flare
gritty spear
subtle flare
#

i dont think so, if she can't be dormed

viscid swift
#

morale recovers naturally at 10/hour

flint frigate
#

What do i get from completing the skin projection of kearsage on lab shipyard?

ivory pawn
#

The ability to set her in your secretary list twice, so you can display more of her skins.

broken anchor
#

Which UR should I get from the light exchange?

soft raft
broken anchor
#

Of the four unobtained

soft raft
#

Vanguard > Everyone else

median prism
#

Is Neptune good?

soft raft
median prism
#

How abt Roon

weary gust
#

Roon is kinda okay to get early just because she's tech for FDG, but even FDG is pretty ehh by today's standards with perma UR pity.

median prism
#

I just got neptune i was thinking of roon next

#

I can only research PR1 rn

knotty jolt
#

i'd focus on a different ship

sweet delta
#

ships aren't useful when they're not max stars

silent hearth
rain vine
#

yes, doesnt matter which zone it is, just that its a c1 zone

silent hearth
#

awesome, im going to use this to grind a few low levels upto 70 too XD

jolly condor
#

Is regensburg worth using with Bismarck

soft raft
pallid wind
#

I just started playing for the collab but I legit can’t beat any of the level in Chapter 3 for the trust points… any suggestions, I read the guide on like starter characters already from the guild

soft raft
viscid swift
#

didn't read it clearly enough consideirng you're using a bullin of all things instead if your starter

soft raft
#

where did your starter DD go 💀

#

and Pennsylvania

stark quiver
#

where does york drop

pallid wind
viscid swift
viscid swift
#

he is

hushed sorrel
stark quiver
jolly condor
pallid wind
#

So who do I even do to get points for the colllab

jolly condor
#

Use ryu she’s probably the best ship you have rn

hushed sorrel
#

for starter in chapter 3 you can use only 1 fleet. that makes it far easier to manage your equip and coins

gritty flint
#

This is my first fleet comp

viscid swift
#

it's bad

gritty flint
#

I know I just run it cause it has bis and zeppelin in it

viscid swift
#

ok then, do you have a question or something though?

gritty flint
#

I mean are their iron blood destroyers or cruisers better than what I hav cause the back lin is staying how it is

viscid swift
#

yes, plenty

#

Z23 retrofit would be the obvious if not biggest upgrade

#

just about any of the SR cruisers would be better

soft raft
#

And you prob dont have her unique aug

median prism
viscid swift
#

that's about standard for your starter fleet

hushed sorrel
median prism
#

Also i have 3 UR bulins who shld i use em on

#

I have NJ and Hakuhou

soft raft
pallid wind
viscid swift
median prism
viscid swift
#

don't

#

limit breaking Shinano using dupes you get from pity

soft raft
#

Hakuhou also handily beats out Shinano in terms of damage

median prism
#

Is Unzen or Hakuhou more useful tho...

late flame
#

they fill different roles

gritty flint
#

I do have a question about blueprints when can I start crafting gold and rainbow tier blueprints cause I got like 3 rainbows

sweet delta
#

what blueprints, there are so many types of blueprints

median prism
gritty flint
#

The gear blueprints

soft raft
gritty flint
#

@soft raft ok thanks

late flame
#

unzen (vanguard/front row)
hakuhou (main fleet/back row)
-for a new player i'd say neither are high prio simply because of lack of resources in terms of UR bulins / gold / equipment

vocal niche
#

will a rerun event add new ships?

late flame
#

of course if i had to choose i'd take hakuhou since most of your fleet damage comes from mainfleet

slow fox
viscid swift
late flame
viscid swift
#

also when you say rerun, I hear 3500 cog chips

pallid wind
#

how are we supposed to limit break golden like ships like ryu

viscid swift
#

with SR bullins

pallid wind
#

SR ?

viscid swift
#

gold

pallid wind
#

ooo gold bullins can i only get that through challenge milestones

viscid swift
viscid swift
#

and 1 from monthly login

midnight bluff
#

For the memories, if a ship is already max enhanced, how would i complete the mission to unlock the subsequent ones

late flame
#

enhance another ship

viscid swift
#

what

midnight bluff
#

Oh any ship works?

late flame
#

yes. assuming you mean the secretary quest missions

soft raft
midnight bluff
viscid swift
#

frankly it was a good change that they stopped that

atomic solstice
#

wow unicorn can really drag any fuckass vanguard through world 12

#

lvl 70 emden be chilling

red hawk
#

yeah I've done lower than level 70 on 12

#

especially when I was levelling eldridge too

atomic solstice
#

trying to finish the exp mission for agir got me scraping the bottom of my kms vanguard barrel

red hawk
#

another good way to get them in the range there is just to grind C1

#

you can do it with some pretty crap ships to pump xp

atomic solstice
#

event stage?

red hawk
#

Operation Siren corrupted zone

atomic solstice
#

oh yeah

red hawk
#

it's low Xp, but if you have the excess AP you can sit there and grind it

atomic solstice
#

and no morale loss, thats an interesting idea

red hawk
#

and it adds up over time, I got all my CDC for FDG in opsi C1

late flame
#

only downside is no affinity gain

broken pier
#

can anyone help me build a fleet here?

viscid swift
#

fleet for what content

broken pier
#

Opsi

red hawk
#

or I should say, lack of the 6% stat boost without oath from affinity

late flame
#

it is not, what i mean is i usually grind affinity to oath the ships used in levelling*

viscid swift
#

can you get anymore UR Bullins

red hawk
#

oh yeah, if you're oathing ships that's totally different.

#

and you still eventually have to do normal stages too, for chips/gold

atomic solstice
#

i got enough promise rings to bling out all my fingers

#

none for my ships tho

red hawk
#

I've only oathed ships for skins

#

and only with free rings

median prism
late flame
#

oumi is a battleship so different role
unicorn (if you have her retrofit) is best healer period, also different role compared to hakuhou
enterprise would be the one you'd eventually replace once you are able to fully limit break hakuhou

tacit mortar
#

guys, will my maxed out sub still benifit from a improved storage battery?

red hawk
#

do I bother coining roon fs5 if I don't plan on using her anytime soon

#

or do I just go straight to anchorage coining

atomic solstice
#

do anchorage

uncut ocean
#

Question: What is highest Operation Level in opsi? Does it top out at 6 I've been here a while

rain bobcat
#

corrosion? 7 for arbiter 6 normal zone

sweet delta
round hare
#

What are some Sardegna Empire Vanguard worth investing in? Needed for Combat Data Collection

sweet delta
#

What do you have

#

Because the only strong ship for endgame is, well, Napoli . So you just pick whoever has good level 120 tech to get

junior pasture
#

Is hestia a good ship to use once permanently obtained

late flame
#

no

quiet kiln
#

In w13 should san diego be in the mob or boss fleet?

viscid swift
#

Probably the boss fleet

quiet kiln
#

I should probably mlb guam for the other fleet

soft raft
#

You can do W13 just fine without her (Esp considering Guam is only like 1 1/3rd years old, long after W13 came out
but yeah she would be very helpful

safe nexus
#

anyone able to helkp with my fleet here? i want to send my fleet gears for help

knotty jolt
safe nexus
#

My fleet for 12-1 exp grind

exotic wren
#

My team building knowledge is stuck in 2023 help

solar lily
#

is this thing decent

stark quiver
#

its good

steel swift
#

How can I use coins when increasing development level?

rain vine
#

press the plus button

steel swift
rain vine
#

that doesnt change my answer

rain bobcat
steel swift
#

See, this one uses blueprints while Mainz uses coins, that's what I mean.

rain bobcat
#

because plymouth is not coinable

steel swift
rain vine
#

if theres a coin icon there, then its coinable

steel swift
#

I thought all PR and DR ships were the same

rain bobcat
#

no

steel swift
#

Okay then, thanks

jolly condor
#

Should I use Perseus

onyx flame
#

if you already have unicorn up, no real need

grave mantle
#

Who is better for enemy stop: Strasser or August?

atomic abyss
atomic abyss
idle perch
#

Could someone send me the fleet guide for w14?

#

and here are gems for u Gem Gem

atomic abyss
#

/guide

odd rootBOT
#
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robust nymph
#

how strong is le hardi? can be used for ch14?

atomic abyss
idle perch
#

Ty

atomic abyss
#

im sure you can use her though

#

can being the heavy lifting word

robust nymph
#

since i got back every event has been a carrier or a main fleet ship so i dont have many vanguards

atomic abyss
#

well that's what your research options are for

#

if you "dont have many vanguards"

robust nymph
#

yeah im getting there slowly but surely

atomic abyss
#

you shouldnt bother with w14

#

w14 is noticeably harder than w13

spark patio
#

which should i use this on?

atomic abyss
#

it has its uses for AA stat padding in hard mode, or repair ships if you're using them for some reason

#

but it's not something for normal use

solar lily
spark patio
#

is this good for poverty sandy?

solar lily
zenith heron
spark patio
#

this gold?

solar lily
spark patio
#

how about this?

#

idk how good it was lel

solar lily
#

still the 100mm tbh

zenith heron
rapid shard
rapid shard
#

Even then a EVA aux is better

#

There is a niche Musashi fleet comp where she uses it tho (Musashi not sandy)

solar lily
#

neat

zenith heron
jagged harness
#

Quick question
How good based on your experience using USS Anchorage?

rapid shard
#

||Sandy with 800 base AA stat with both skills lv10 one taps literally anything that dares fly by tho. Total meme||

rapid shard
zenith heron
rapid shard
jagged harness
onyx flame
#

just know that she doesnt do a lot of dmg

rapid shard
#

Total meme setup if you want her to completely carry 2 other mid tier ships in 13-4 auto. ||somehow steals MVP from Uni with wyverns consistently||

solar lily
zenith heron
rapid shard
#

756 before her skills buff it lol

solar lily
#

damn have i been sleeping on anchorage all this time

atomic abyss
#

she is literally one of the best tanks in the game

#

so yes

rapid shard
zenith heron
solar lily
onyx flame
#

the iris torps

solar lily
#

o

rapid shard
onyx flame
#

either

solar lily
#

mmm, neat

rapid shard
#

Properly setup only a couple of rainbows beat her as main tank and thats just because she doesnt deal much dmg

atomic abyss
#

laff2 if her luck is good

solar lily
#

uh huh

strange sphinx
#

is there a specific torp for Ply or regular Quadruple for gold?

atomic abyss
#

no specific torp for ply

solar lily
#

i gotta work on my EU tech points ngl

wispy cosmos
#

which secrets have rerun

rapid shard
#

Getting EU up to Anchorage is enough when starting none of the other EU ones past her are really worth it in the beginning

spark patio
rapid shard
#

Not necessarily. Z46 gun is a bit better for dmg. Sandy like the extra AA off the twin100s

solar lily
#

i have a disproportionate amount of RN and IB tech points compared to everything else

rapid shard
#

Twin 127mm i think is a bit better overall than the twin 100 but could be wrong

strange sphinx
#

hmmmm what's the points for ryu? Same with hestia in campaign or different? (Didn't read)

rapid shard
atomic abyss
spark patio
rapid shard
solar lily
#

currently doing Hindenburg atm (if only because i find her hot)

atomic abyss
strange sphinx
#

can I focus on Pr7 for La9? (Don't havw one yet) or bull head in PR8?

autumn cedar
#

are these gears good enough for Hakuhou, or are there any alternatives?

atomic abyss
#

good enough assuming it syncs

rapid shard
atomic abyss
#

hence why i said different uses

#

in practice the gold 127 is worse than the purple 120 anyways

solar lily
#

any DDs that would benefit the gear lab gold german 128mm?

atomic abyss
#

it's better than the gold 127 and gold 100

rapid shard
spark patio
#

which should i use for my DDs then?

atomic abyss
#

a relatively cheap gold DD gun that can serve as a place holder

solar lily
#

the gold 128

atomic abyss
rapid shard
# solar lily ye

Like ender said above cheap easy to make that will hold you over till better options appear

atomic abyss
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purple 128 is shit, purple twin 127 is shit

rapid shard
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Full DD gun list with pictures lol

solar lily
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spark patio
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better now?

rapid shard
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Also pay attention the text above that for which ships want the blue 76 gun.

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Give her that gold roomba

solar lily
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the gold roomba is a good starting point

rapid shard
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And if your using a BB give them the haze maker

solar lily
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generally speaking, hazemeyer/STAAG (or that rainbow 76 AA) for BBs, everything else for ur other ships

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Torp based dmg ships benefit from the hit stat boost staggs and Hazes give as well

solar lily
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ooo

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never knew that

spark patio
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what is gold romma

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the round one?

rapid shard
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Twin 113. The dinner plate looking one

spark patio
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eldridge good now?

rapid shard
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Yeah good enough till you getter gear. My basic ass eldridge build for example. Dont have any spare gold HP auxs

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Also no general plates lol

spark patio
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should i rob a gold aa gun from CAs and give her?

solar lily
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trust

spark patio
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which one lel

rapid shard
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Or just throw a purple roomba that you have for time being

solar lily
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almost forgot the purple roomba exists

spark patio
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so purple rooma?

hollow gust
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Why is my 101 so mid JavSigh

rapid shard
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The ships with those gold AAs need the additional stat bonus they getting lol

spark patio
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those gears good for zenker?

solar lily
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its good enuff

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also do try making augments for ur ships

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and upgrade them skills

onyx flame
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i rather run the fire control than black shell

rapid shard
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White black is standard until you get gold towers

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Aux gun could be better tho not sure what your options are but just cross check the guide I linked earlier

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hollow gust
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Aux gun is fine for early game , it's still the best purple aux

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solar lily
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For DD aux gun that is

spark patio
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the guide said the right one better, should i change it?

atomic abyss
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right is only strictly better as a stat stick in terms of BBs

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if you're lacking main gun options for CLs, the 155 will be a better interim than the 152

solar lily
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20 more fp is pretty good tbf

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spark patio
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my CLs use those

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onyx flame
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i mean the purple twin 152 works fine enuf for poverty bb secondary

rapid shard
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You should be fine as is for now. Wouldn't stress swapping now. Especially since you cant +10 it right away to get the stat bonus

safe nexus
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used like 1k AP, im not really getting positive AP from C1 grind, doesn't seem to be working ngl

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Its RNG on the scam cat appearing.

safe nexus
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😭

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Do you have it set to stop when she appears?

safe nexus
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ye

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i bought before, just she seems to be very rare sometimes so im not getting profit thx to those very rare moments

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Yeah thats just unlucky run man.

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You have finished all the other zones before C1 spamming tho right?

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And do save some AP boxes cause new stronghold pops up each week and thats 200ap

solar lily
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Black is just kind of a sub/next best till then

onyx flame
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when will the day come where we can get the rainbow table BuckyPrideZoom

rapid shard
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When they add it to shop or event reruns. Pretty sure its already reran so waiting for shop addition

solar lily
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rainbow table is which?

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admiralty fcs or

onyx flame
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yea that

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strange sphinx
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grey is questioning something

hollow gust
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You realize hsfcr has to do more with timing than anything right?

strange sphinx
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oh yeah, how niche is the Royal navy Ap round? /10

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Im following suchis guide on that and I played around with NJ with both combos and got consistently higher dmg runs with tower/white over black/white

harsh drum
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Since it functions as a better white shell

hollow gust
hollow gust
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You realize that won't really be applicable for all context, you are trading FP/crit rate for hit and speed boost

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hollow gust
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Idk why you are treating it as a direct improvement for most content

solar lily
harsh drum
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Well, true. Can't argue against that

hollow gust
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As for the yellow pencil shell its sidegrade to downgrade for even royals , there is absolutely no reason for you to ever buy it

rapid shard
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Didn't say it was direct improvement just the standard reccomened loadout majority of the time. When you start getting it syncing and timing salvos with buffs and airstrikes then you use other gear

rain bobcat
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ideally the repeat strat is
start 1500
get net positive AP
spend all ap until back to 1500 on C3

repeat

solar lily
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concerning t-pose tower vs big black shell, it did manage to bump my Lion's total power by 30 compared to the shell, and i like seeing numbers go up so Ehhssex

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probably wont matter much considering i havent touched the campaign in 500 years

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rain bobcat
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hpfcr is better because it allows you to clear things swiftly

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rain bobcat
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uni and ur other CV ideally launches before the BB then the BB straight up insta clears the next wave ideally

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its a timing thing even outside of bosses

rain bobcat
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what

hollow gust
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In what world are non partial/preloaded CVs faster then BBs

solar lily
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can i js replace the starter DDs with anything (i gotta let my level 115 nimi rest fr)

rain bobcat
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wait I think I was thinking about the 2nd salvo

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wtv same thing uni preload > bb salvo> cv > uni again> bb again

rapid shard
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^^ gold tower enables that giving space before second CV launch

hollow gust
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Running white/black on triple 406mk6 especially on a newer player with low tech would have BB and second cv firing at same time wasting one or the others salvo/strike

hollow gust
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CVs for early game players are snails

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0 tech vs full tech is over 40 rld points

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The diff for BBs is under 20

atomic abyss
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not only that

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shitty planes too

rain bobcat
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didnt the convo shift into why fpfcr is standard over black over time not just early

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BBs for newer players are snails too...

rain bobcat
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idk might've misread since I only skimmed

rain bobcat
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its like 4s time difference for CVs

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BB you can get similar load time with only 5 tech rld

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and ur only realistically losing time on META fights by 1s load time

rapid shard
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I understand that. Im currently raising blues and white CVs to boost my rld tech currently.