gameplay-help

[knotty jolt]

I just use the pirate cats and they work fine for me

[muted wind]

CVs already have a ton of AVI, so the small stat buff you can get here is almost nothing, however they have low RLD so...

you got both RLD talents, the only problem is the sakura empire specific buff imo

[knotty jolt]

+avi on ships with such high values already is like using the FP boosting AA guns on battleships or EVA aux on destroyers, more of something they have enough of

[red sapphire]

I plan to use it with them

[wind hazel]

it's not good because down the line, you will stray away from using IJN, so your cat's talent become 1/3 irrelevant

[muted wind]

also the generic buffs are just as good as the faction specific ones

[wind hazel]

what you want is flame talent, or ace pilot, with rld+avi talent, then you got the ideal base

[muted wind]

either way, use this for now, feed it to another cat with better base talents when you get one

[red sapphire]

Alright

[knotty jolt]

Cats are so minor imo they're just not worth it

[muted wind]

also, i think getting ace pilot and flame's aggression at base is technically not good either because they take 2 slots on SSR cats for whatever reason, so you get less talent rolls overall...? but it's easier to reroll them after

yeah, optimize this when you can, don't push it much

[wind hazel]

lol good luck rolling for flame and ace afterwards without them

[muted wind]

for reference, i tried to get an edelweiss with the sub RLD talents and it took me 700 purple boxes until i got something good

[red sapphire]

I see

[muted wind]

yeah, i'm just saying, having at least one is definitely better for your sanity. if you even care. i didn't for CVs yet

[red sapphire]

So I will do it on the future c:

[wind hazel]

or dont

[muted wind]

note that rerolling cat talents costs 12k coins at max level and can only be done once a day, so... that's far future

[bold peak]

it's Repair HP +1 and max limit is 19 tech point

[wind hazel]

write feedback to ask for cat revamp #game-feedback like i did

[bold peak]

Literally a scam cat

[dry tree]

Does this also include Opsi? Or just world stages? I wanted to grind Opsi for a while for mats.

[muted wind]

no, just campaign/event stages

opsi should count for ryu's quest line though

[eternal basalt]

It counts the rerun though, next week

[red sapphire]

It's me or Bluestacks is definelly not bug

[muted wind]

bluestacks and ldplayer are notoriously buggy for this game

[red sapphire]

Lmao

[red hawk]

pompeo magno have any usefulness or just another SR

[vapid valve]

how fo i get the twin 76mm

[rain vine]

gear lab

[vapid valve]

thank you sir

[gilded carbon]

So, the permanent Events from the Archive too?

[robust onyx]

Just another sr

[muted wind]

yes, but you usually don't want to play war archives at all

[weary edge]

should i ever do the 8hr cognition projects? or is it more effective to just stick with the small versions

[muted wind]

i think it's slightly less efficient time-wise, but less rng, so i'd take it

[gilded carbon]

Was just curious. Only recently i finished Farming that shoe

[wind hazel]

personally take 2.5

[viscid swift]

same

[weary edge]

do the 8hr ones give more mecklen bps?

[wind hazel]

if you're lucky

2.5h can give more too if you're also lucky

for less time spent

[weary edge]

i see

[muted wind]

if you actually want to focus meck, taking long tasks is certainly more consistent than hoping you get another one for her after the 2.5h one, and the time-bp ratio should be... roughly the same on average.
-# though i'd focus gear but you didn't roll a task for that anyways lol

all rng in the end

[weary edge]

i mean it also gives some gear bps too, like im 1 away from my first washing machine 😍

also is u-101 good? the increased evasion rate looks enticing

[robust onyx]

With augment yes

[lament plover]

Aight with new event it's time to crack open the can on W13

Anything i should prepare for?

[vapid valve]

ok so i have warspite as apart of the team should i gt her retrofit complete after i complete unicorn and eldridge

[wind hazel]

good cv with fighters, good aa

[wind hazel]

kinda expensive, what other BB options do you have

[vapid valve]

not sure i have a whole line up plus i have UR ships as well

[wind hazel]

show what bb you have

[vapid valve]

sure give me a moment

[weary edge]

if u got oumi use her

[lament plover]

Is Perseus still usable?

[rain vine]

yes

[lament plover]

so I just see large CV fleet planes attack in W13

Those are quite something

[neat terrace]

how does clearing mode work for multiple bosses maps? is it flagship fleet every boss fight or only last one

[wind hazel]

boss will fight all boss

[neat terrace]

ok thanks

[sour glacier]

How to increase the "commodity" amount of the island game??

[hushed sorrel]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1422463299877867540

for all things regarding that sub game

[short wagon]

1940 triple 406 🚮 ?

[wind hazel]

which 1940?
UR good,
gold shit

[short wagon]

gold prototype 1940

[wind hazel]

shhhhhhhhhhhyte

[short wagon]

🚮

[short wagon]

purple twin 410>?

[wind hazel]

twin 410 is decent gun, excellent for musashi mobbing

[short wagon]

yea thats what i have rn

[wind hazel]

on what ship

[hybrid bane]

Sorry if this is the wrong channel, do anyone know a good gear tier list for 2025, trying to create a fleet for auto 15-4 ? I found many tierlists but they're incomplete or with different name for gear so i can't find which one is that gear in the game or wiki

[short wagon]

musashi

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/

[short wagon]

twin 410
triple 155
hazemeyer
shell
shell

poverty 🥀

[wind hazel]

your standard musashishishi

[short wagon]

i have the bottom one rn

[wind hazel]

i know

can skip the 410kai if you want, it's just minor upgrade

[safe nexus]

whats the fastest main gun for CA i can get so Asama can activate her all out assault more

[short wagon]

is high stabdard tower better than black shell

[wind hazel]

most of the time yes

[short wagon]

should i put high standrad tower over black shell on bismarck zwei too
boss fleet

[wind hazel]

yes most BB use radar+white

[short wagon]

whats black shell for again

[wind hazel]

you only ever use black for timing

mostly in challenge mode or certain meta

[short wagon]

okok

[wind hazel]

or soyuz nakh

[lament plover]

I put blackshell and white shell in every BB I have

[short wagon]

thats what i did

[robust nymph]

hi can i do ch14 with these ships and only +10 gear and if yes what would be my 2 fleets?

[whole hinge]

What's are the good planes for Detroit unicorn?

[wind hazel]

doable, but i'd prefer some stronger vanguard ships

[robust nymph]

like? that i can obtain

[wind hazel]

shimanto

[short wagon]

cheeky and some other ppl told me to MLB alsace next but how would i fit her in

[robust nymph]

this is the rest i got

[wind hazel]

ye get shimanto

[robust nymph]

getting prints gonna take long

[wind hazel]

can give this a try
fdg unicorn indep
eldridge yukikaze shimanto

warspite hakuhou shinano
agir sandiego anchorage

[robust nymph]

will try for funsies, ty!

yukikaze is interesting

[wind hazel]

you can delay a bit and wait for unzen if you want

[robust nymph]

i feel like i havent used yukikaze since ch10

[wind hazel]

swap sandy to mob, unzen boss. that would be better. even better if you can get secondary healer like aquila or volga too

[robust nymph]

is there a rerun?

[wind hazel]

yeah should be soonish

[robust nymph]

i wish they released the skin later then not before..

[wind hazel]

just start doing shimanto catchup, see if you can FS5 her before unzen rerun or not

[short wagon]

mori where should i put a MLB alsace in my fleet
i put ss up there

[robust nymph]

shimanto is not coinable right

[wind hazel]

just use her when the rest are lv125

or replace FDG lol

why are none of your URs lv125

[short wagon]

hiatus

[robust nymph]

why yukikaze btw? i didnt know she could be decent

[short wagon]

been hiatus so long i been on w11-1 for like a year now

[wind hazel]

your best ship among the rest of the options, decently tanky

[viscid swift]

I'd rather raise Ryuu

[hybrid bane]

Random question for general gameplay, the Bismarck item, certificate of sponsorship works on Bismarck Zwei ?

[wind hazel]

I mean

[short wagon]

is reno good

[wind hazel]

meh

[tropic tusk]

i assume both are collection?

[short wagon]

what world do i start needing a healer thats not unicorn

[inland shoal]

W14 I'd say

[knotty jolt]

I did world 14 with only unicorn

[woven star]

Idk. W14 fine too

She has good dmg too. Unless you're trying leveling she's then she can steal mvp

Maybe for w15 she needs help. Still at w14

[inland shoal]

I mean you probably can also do w15 with just Uni

But depending on your comp 2nd healer can be helpful in w14

[delicate bronze]

how do i improve this so they survive all 7 14-4 mobs

i tried fritz instead of aquila but then vanguard dies instead of main

[viscid swift]

better gear probably

and using subs helps

[delicate bronze]

i want to autofarm

[woven star]

More dmg backline? Is it double heal? I can't recognize right main ship

[delicate bronze]

aquila, healer

[wind hazel]

swap your cats around too

[viscid swift]

as I said then, better gear

only explanation if that fleet cosnsistently fails on W14 safe

[delicate bronze]

they are kinda maxed out

[robust nymph]

will my vanguard die on 12-4

[viscid swift]

let us be the judge of that

[tropic tusk]

u do know the fleet is 6 right ? not 1

[viscid swift]

post everyone's gears

[whole crypt]

did you bring ASW and is the map on safe

[whole crypt]

need better ASW definitely

[viscid swift]

ASW plane on Unicorn

[whole crypt]

+13 hedgehog and put an ASW plane on Unicorn

[viscid swift]

and use double line formation if you aren't already

[woven star]

AA gun. There's better version

[delicate bronze]

i use it

[wind hazel]

no more wyvern?

[whole crypt]

roombas are fine for 14 and Sandy is there

[wind hazel]

or even breguet. poor aquila still running barracuda

[viscid swift]

And Guam

[delicate bronze]

i could probably get 1 or 2 more but i have 2 on shinano in main fleet

[wind hazel]

can give shinano a saiun, grab one wyvern from her

[delicate bronze]

which plane is that again?

[whole crypt]

[sweet delta]

how does that fail

[viscid swift]

Put a Ju87d in Shimano's first slot

[whole crypt]

probably fell short on ASW, especially since he said main fleet ded

also I don't think he answered if he's doing it on safe, just a possibility

[wind hazel]

he said vanguard died lol

[whole crypt]

he said vanguard died when he swapped out Aquila for Fritz

[wind hazel]

ok yea

[delicate bronze]

i guess its lethal

[whole crypt]

get to safe before trying to autofarm

[delicate bronze]

im embarrassed to admit i didnt know that was a thing, things just happened until now

[wind hazel]

btw if you're using eldridge sandy and traf on 14 mob, who should hold hedgehog?

[woven star]

Even auto on lethal can't be huge deal if fleet ok

[whole crypt]

there are places you can manage with lethal but 14-4 isn't one of them, at least not consistently

[delicate bronze]

which is the antisub plane for unicorn?

[spark patio]

can so help me with those settings?

[whole crypt]

but fleet is not ok

[woven star]

My bet on SanD

[delicate bronze]

this?

[whole crypt]

that works

there are a couple of options some better some worse, but just having one should already be a noticeable difference

[woven star]

Avenger for Unicorn at least I did

[wind hazel]

@spark patio

[vapid valve]

can i DM you instead so i can keep notes since i have no idea what im doing in this game other than the constant grind

[wind hazel]

no

[vapid valve]

ok

then let me sendscreenshots then

[split gazelle]

making a thread would solve that issue

[woven star]

More afraid strangers

[wind hazel]

i mean it's just BB, not gona be more than 1 or 2 screenshots

[split gazelle]

for the notes part I mean

[wind hazel]

dont have energy for that now

[delicate bronze]

boss fleet
i should probably learn the cats
they manage to do the boss on auto but unzen usually dies
(im aware napoli is not 125)

[vapid valve]

its more than that

[whole crypt]

Napoli should be front, Unzen should be middle

Unzen is literally the most fragile ship in that fleet

[spark patio]

ah i forgot u already sent, ty Mori

[viscid swift]

use Musashi not FDG in the mob fleet

[wind hazel]

well i only requested for your BB options, because of your warspite dilemma

[delicate bronze]

then who should i use in main?

[vapid valve]

actaully nvm i was able to get it to 2 screenshots here you go @wind hazel

[viscid swift]

FDG, and swap Kearsarge out for aother CV is my prefference

[delicate bronze]

i kinda went off guides on the internet but they might be outdated

[wind hazel]

just use your oumi or constellation

[woven star]

One more if you can make frog AA put it on SanD. Have feelings planes is your problem instead of ss but haghog and avenger help you a lot too

[delicate bronze]

are pr8 ships any good in meta?

[vapid valve]

thats it

[delicate bronze]

as in, are they any good for lategame content, not meta ship farming

[vapid valve]

really i could level up the russian one NJ and musashi

[wind hazel]

yeah your owari is already 125, big dick energy. you dont need warspite, since you still have alot of UR to limit break

retroing warspite=taking away spcore, less UR bulin

[vapid valve]

i could get even more i have i think 7 of the UR bulin for now but definelty bump it up to 14 of them

[wind hazel]

well mlb your zwei then

[delicate bronze]

would fritz work?

[viscid swift]

sure

[wind hazel]

cheeky do you know? and the reason

[delicate bronze]

frog aa?

[vapid valve]

got it

MLB zwei and then i will deal with the others then later for more ships

[woven star]

Twin 76mm RF Mk 37 Gun Mount. Or Sextube but ppl told that is not relevant nowadays

[viscid swift]

I guess whichever suffers from the eHP loss the least

[delicate bronze]

sure, i could make one

is it that good, to make a difference?

could craft some gear if need be

+13ing things is also a possibility

[woven star]

You don't have any axelerator AA. This can help boost you AA. You have dmg but low rld activation time

[delicate bronze]

lets say ive been playing the game for a while, not using my mats

[wind hazel]

me too

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[delicate bronze]

ive stopped farming ops, cant be bothered

just doing my daily meta bosses

[wind hazel]

just auto them

[delicate bronze]

you still have to actively switch zones, no?

[wind hazel]

not if you got the lazy way of buying the loggers

[delicate bronze]

tell me more

[short wagon]

how get eldrige (not gambling) i got the retro item and the display item but i got no eldridge

[wind hazel]

have you explored the maps? or havent

[verbal plinth]

Pvp shop rotation

[delicate bronze]

ive been doing this for forever now, just 2 maps to get 200 and then daily bosses

[wind hazel]

wtf how do you reach center without exploring the surrounding

[eternal basalt]

5000 oil

[wind hazel]

i see, that's how it works

[delicate bronze]

yep, got oil to spare
you made me look and im about to get to the limit

[wind hazel]

open a bunch of AP, strategic search>explorable>auto search all, stop when encounter mysterious merchant, dont display meta coordinates, auto exchange item, turn on Reduce TB guidance in setting

then do your hidden, same thing, buy the hidden zone thing, use, strat search, just different tab. then repeat C5 with extra APs

[kind needle]

Who good to ditch?

[viscid swift]

if they're cleasring fine they can be left as is honestley

[wind hazel]

can insert traf somewhere

[kind needle]

Don't have mlb traf yet

[wind hazel]

it's fine, swap it in for crossfleet. can swap out aurora, doubt you're using that fleet

[jolly plover]

Lads, it's been a while since I've had a NPC Ship. Can they really not be put at the dorm?

[wind hazel]

you cant

[kind needle]

I do doubt my third fleet being kinda useless since idk if they synergize

[wind hazel]

it's fine use it as crossfleet fleet

[jolly plover]

Dang it. Guess I'll have to pump Hestia with EXP Packs.

[inland shoal]

Yes, most annoying part about npcs tbh
Luckily there's no need to use them you'll easily get enough pts either way

[verbal plinth]

Unzen instead of shima but that's just nitpicking

[kind needle]

The only ur I don't have is Unzen. (Also some DRs since I am too lazy to do PR)

[stark quiver]

Some you are preload spamming , I’d swap indep for bois belleau,

[verbal plinth]

Ahh

Put 404 in sub fleet for cross fleet

[kind needle]

Don't have her (not maxed rn)

[kind needle]

Stilll in bulin drought, I can MLB one tho: 404, Traf, Rafaello, Hakuhou, Kron, and Vangy

[verbal plinth]

Dw then no big deal

[inland shoal]

She doesn't need LBs for her cross fleet tbh as long as you're not calling subs

[viscid swift]

Trafalgar pretty easily

[kind needle]

Aight, imma mlb traf

I almost done at Hinden (can guarantee D30 right off the bat), where should I put her

[mighty axle]

maybe a suggestion who to redeem?

[verbal plinth]

Harbin spot imo

[viscid swift]

Shinano until she's MLB

[mighty axle]

idk what MLB means since I'm new

[viscid swift]

max limit break

[kind needle]

Max Limit Break/Full Stars

[mighty axle]

well she is max limit alr

[inland shoal]

Max Limit Break = LB3 = all stars lit up

[kind needle]

Prob NJ?

[atomic abyss]

Shinano

[viscid swift]

Vanguard I guess unless you have enough UR BBs at which point

whichever has the best cross fleet

[eternal basalt]

Keep for Musashi, unless you have Musashi

[mighty axle]

that's also my first option but I want to see what pros says

[woven star]

Vanguard in meta boss fight now if have Lion

[viscid swift]

this is my thoughts on all of them

[kind needle]

My tips are Vanguard for just transition, but NJ/Shima/UvH for Cross Fleet imo.

[crimson glacier]

i guess subs are somewhat ordered? are the rest too

[viscid swift]

not really

I gave up trying to order them

[mighty axle]

what does it means by transition?

[kind needle]

Also, I recently leveled and retrofitted my Eldridge, should I use her in OpSi?

[viscid swift]

it means bottom/middle tier URs that are solid to use and don't cost an arm and a leg in UR Bullins

[mighty axle]

ouhh

[kind needle]

Transition is to use them until you get better units.

[kind needle]

Should I put Eld retro somewhere on Crossfleet or smth?

[viscid swift]

Imma be honest, you could but you are pretty easily past the damage threshold to not give a fuck in OpSi

[kind needle]

I still can't beat Harbiter🥀

[viscid swift]

gear issue

[kind needle]

Wait, what armor is the harbiter rn

[wind hazel]

not being able to beat harbiter with those fleets

[kind needle]

Tech issue ig, I still farm rld tech

[wind hazel]

nah

[viscid swift]

light armor

[verbal plinth]

First fleet alone should half health it imo

[wind hazel]

admittedly you can level them up some more, get most of them to 125

[kind needle]

I lack vs light armor gear ig and kinda edge to medium

[wind hazel]

naaaah, just go mk2+6 on all your bb, surely you have those, if you dont have mk7

[viscid swift]

even with Mk6s on them that first fleet should still do at least half of the boss' HP

[kind needle]

The purple ones? Fr?

I thought the PR6 kear gun works at light but it seemed slow and high spread

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[wind hazel]

qgg

[kind needle]

Could I clear W14 with these tho

[wind hazel]

how dead do you want w14 to be

[kind needle]

Probably 14-4 to safe

[wind hazel]

no i mean, with your roster, w14 is as dead as michael jackson

^same link, has w14 guide too

[kind needle]

But, imma create a thread later if I need fleetbuild help

I do have bad understanding in English when lightheaded, my bad

Aight, imma try clear them using the guide, thx for help

[atomic abyss]

hestia is useless for the average player on account of being a repair ship
ryuu isnt bad at all

we cant be sure how good she is

but for AL, modern collab ships are normally pretty good for their rarities

[onyx flame]

if you havent gotten an answer, merit shop

[silk helm]

when farming BB rld, for some of these blue ships, is it worth turning them into BBVs?

[bold peak]

Not really, some of the bbv I believe got like special scout plane which Kearsage (PR BBV) doesn't use

So you kinda waste some resources retrofitting them

[stark quiver]

no
it makes them worse
retrofit after 120 for collection%

[bold peak]

Also like turning bb into bbv, I think decrease their damage potential as bb

[rain vine]

if you care about collection percentage, thats the only thing theyre good for

[stark quiver]

also btw, only do up to modernization node for retrofits, dont need to do the skill, its waste of resources if you just want the %

[silk helm]

okay good to know, i only have 3 more ships to go for max bb rld tech.. a little over a month

[stark quiver]

i got bois belleau to 120 in under a week

[silk helm]

how long does it take for 0 CV rld to max CV rld?

[forest palm]

end up 120'ing most new ships in their own event

that depends on if you have all the pieces, but it could take about month depending on what you do

[stark quiver]

do you know how much max cv rld there is rn

[forest palm]

that doesn't seem right...

oh, is that obtained?

oh, it's not showing retrofit

[stark quiver]

so good for you , you only need to grind 20 something ships since half of that comes from level 7 hms faction tech
have fun grinding, itll take a good while, maybe a 2 month ish is what i did

[boreal wagon]

i dont know why showing retrofit matter but ok

one could enable that anyway lol

[forest palm]

it's what I'm visually used to

haven't updated my tech tracker in a hot minute

go to information it'll show up as a mission, otherwise it's probably covered up by a Hidden, Aybsal, or Stronghold

doesn't sound right

they haven't released a File Logger in a long time so I don't entirely remember much outside of each one being a one off thing

[stone harbor]

Hello, i need help, i tried to download the maintenance upload but it get freeze, i let it about an hour but didn't progress with the file download

[atomic abyss]

no they're 1x things

[forest palm]

File Loggers have always been one off, and do not refresh

might be confusing a File Logger with a Hidden Logger since they have somewhat similar colors

[forest palm]

just gonna direct you to #tech-support

[stone harbor]

Tnks

[violet grail]

Do guild upgrades for stuff like dock cap, oil cap etc stay even if I switch guild?

[vapid valve]

can i compse the purple boxes to get more golden ones or no

[fast frigate]

omg danmachi collabb

[flat fractal]

do you get more trust putting hestia in mob or boss fleet?

[ivory pawn]

Boss.

[vapid valve]

how do i put her in the linueup

[ivory pawn]

Gotta make her permanent first probably.

[eternal basalt]

First slot. Always first slot

[vapid valve]

i cant add her

[knotty jolt]

If ya talking about secretary then ya can't until you've recruited her

[vapid valve]

no so i can do the boss run with her

[ivory pawn]

You’re trying to put her in backline, right?

[vapid valve]

yes

[knotty jolt]

Repair ships are mainfleet not vanguard

[eternal basalt]

[ivory pawn]

She should be the very first ship on your list, in the top left.

[knotty jolt]

If you're having trouble finding her in your dock to begin with, there is a sort button. Sort by faction type other.

[vapid valve]

i found it

i was trying to put her on the frontline thats why

[knotty jolt]

[vapid valve]

got it sorry guys

[rapid shard]

Arbiter is light armor this month right?

[red hawk]

How does Klaudias healing work? I was going to level her so I could take uni out for a bit and get a second healer for later.

[rain bobcat]

god forbid reading

[stark quiver]

god forbid answering questions

[rain bobcat]

she heals everyone at the start, heals vanguard every airstrike,and heals a ship after they get below X% hp

[ivory pawn]

When the battle starts: all ships in your fleet recover 1.5% (5%) of their max HP. When this ship launches an Airstrike: your Vanguard recovers 1.5% (5%) of their max HP. Once per battle, when a ship in your fleet falls below 30% max HP as a result of DMG taken: that ship recovers 1.5% (5%) of her max HP.

• more healing for Ryza ships and other Ryza stuff.

[atomic abyss]

no snarky remarks please...

[weary edge]

that's what im saying like why are these people here to make fun of people asking for help in the help channel shit pmo

[static sphinx]

what equipment do i use for hestia?

[sweet delta]

Same as other repair ships

Example for hestia and Ryu

[jolly condor]

would hakuhou, shinano, and taihou work as a team

[forest palm]

Taihou would be doing nothing, but sure

more like a glorified cheerleader

[jolly condor]

pain

[forest palm]

just use Implacable or August if you don't have her then throw Kazagumo in the vanguard and you're done

[rain bobcat]

no reliable stop either

id rather use hakuryuu if you have her fs5 if you want to gamble eldridge slow

[jolly condor]

and what if i have none of those

[forest palm]

figured, anyway August is very easy to get

[jolly condor]

how do you get august

[grizzled mortar]

PR4 research

[red hawk]

so Im starting to run into cog chip shortages, I'm not sure what the best option is, but I'm getting to a point where I won't have any left after 115 awakening Essexkai and Hakuhou, but I'm gonna run out of stuff that's not level capped or unawakened

what's the best thing I can do?

[viscid swift]

Just have to wait

Nothing else you really can do

[red hawk]

should i just use ships that I can awaken later since they'll keep getting XP?

like I've got indepkai about to hit 100

[viscid swift]

Yes

[forest palm]

well after Lv 100 a ship can sit on 3 mil XP before it goes to waste

[jolly condor]

Hakuhou team help

[red hawk]

yeah and from what I calculated, 3 mil is more than you're gonna clear

you can stack 100-120 if I did the math right

[rain bobcat]

yes

[forest palm]

120 is like 2.1 or so

[red hawk]

so you can get pretty close to capping at 125

[silent hearth]

Ryu Lion looks pretty strong, is there any reviews out there yet for her?

[red hawk]

not that youd want to 125 everything but still

[rain bobcat]

go watch suchis vid

[silent hearth]

awesome, i didnt see it when i checked, ty!

[red hawk]

when does the collab drop?

nvm I'll just look sorry habit

[rain bobcat]

its a section in the event datamine vid

she doesnt rly need an entire vid

[red hawk]

I see the issue, I was confused because reaching the event is different

it's not like other ones I've done before

[sweet delta]

Where did you check?

[sweet delta]

I didn't make a datamine video

[rain bobcat]

the event prelim vid

[sweet delta]

ships review, not datamine

[floral latch]

1k gems... Idk I should save it to buy Taihou her dress or buy new slot in the dorm/classroom/docks??

[rain bobcat]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[agile patrol]

How does Hakuhou compare to other 'top tier' CVs?

[thorn tartan]

Am I supposed be doing anything for this event?

[agile patrol]

yeah
play as normal
regular campaign stages give you Trust, which you can get Hestia through in the event tab
killing enemies gives you Ryu Lion

[thorn tartan]

just keep grinding oil to coin like usual

[agile patrol]

yep

[thorn tartan]

i already got both ships...... i guess i need trust to keep them. But no reason to field these new ships as far as I can tell

[grave mantle]

I didn't understand, do I need to have Hestia in fleet or I can forget about her and still get her?

[agile patrol]

having hestia in fleet doubles ur trust gain

you can get her without having her in ur fleet

[thorn tartan]

but doesn't increase leveling speed or anything?

[agile patrol]

what

[grave mantle]

You didn't get real Hestia, the one you got is temporary, she will disappear after event if you don't get 350 Trust

Nobody has real Hestia rn, because she is time locked for 2 days

[agile patrol]

noooo
that's how these collab events work
you get the NPC version of the ship, temporary
in order to get the actual ship you need to do the event and unlock them through that

[grave mantle]

Will the level be transferred to real Hestia after event?

[thorn tartan]

You don't get extra exp for grinding her now? That's what I'm asking.....

okay, event finished then. new ships look good

[grave mantle]

No extra xp, faster obtaining instead

[sweet delta]

Hakuhou is about as good as Amagi and in a different league than the likes of chkalov, enterprise, saratoga

[thorn tartan]

i'm burning at least 5k oil a day, won't be a prob

[sweet delta]

Although Hakuhou sucks against light enemies

[grave mantle]

As I understand, only figher-heavy CVs are good against light enemies

[sweet delta]

The best anti-light fighter is indeed a lot better against light than the best anti-light Torpedo bomber

[rapid shard]

Would Hakuryuu or Retroing Essex be the better choice? Only UR carriers at MLB currently are Hakuhou, i do have enty, Arkretro, AvP and working on Volga right now as far as noteable CVs go. Shinano is still a while off before i can MLB her

[viscid swift]

uhh what

[loud scarab]

does hestia's skin have the animation that was posted on twitter? it's not l2d, so it's just the usual loop of dynamic skins?

[sweet delta]

What's the status of all of your rainbow ships?

[rapid shard]

NJ is MLB and have Sandyretro Eldretro and needing 2 more copies to mlb shinano so still a bit off for that.

Limited on Gold carrier pieces and can get 8 more from 3*ing hard mode stages and will have enough to immediately do either Hakuryuu or Essex retro but not both right away.

[sweet delta]

Then you should be coining aegir or fdg so you don't have time for haku

[rapid shard]

im coining agir right now. shes dev26

with NJ Oumi WarspiteRetro and Georgia fully maxxed should i still get FDG?

[uncut ocean]

is there event stages? i see story but no sorties

[sweet delta]

Georgia isn't at the same table, much less the same dining room, but you can indeed skip fdg for now

[rapid shard]

I know shes mid af lol but was a early carry for me. actually good CVs are a major lack on my roster thats why im 50/50 between the 2 and wondering which would be biggest boost

[jaunty rover]

anyone else not seeing the collab event?

[viscid swift]

considering Essex retrofit is good to go whereas Hakuryuu will take 2 months of coining to be usable after you finish coining Agir

[loud scarab]

there's no event stages

[sweet delta]

Considering that Haku would take 50+ days to be ready

[jaunty rover]

@loud scarab oh :<

[rapid shard]

Somehow and i have zero idea how, im sitting on 310 BPs for her right now

[jaunty rover]

I saw the side mission to read all the stories but I just get redirected to the Battle sub menu

[sweet delta]

Id rather have a flexible good transitional ship than a delayed-by-2-months transitional ship who needs a specific pairing to be good

[viscid swift]

you need 513 to get her to dev 30

and another 215 for her fate sim

also

I don't exactly rate Hakuryuu higher than Essex anyway

[rapid shard]

is hakuryuus fatesim mandatory for her to be good? i seen she was a poverty pair for Hakuhou if i dont have AmagiCV

[stark quiver]

No

[viscid swift]

no but she's not particuarly impressive among URs even with it

and you might wanna read their skills again because there's no reason to pair them together specifically

what

[rapid shard]

Yeah i was looking at Hakuhous S2. i have zero decent IJN BBs or CVs to pair to proc that boost

[sweet delta]

Haku even with fs5 may be worse than essex

Have you tried reading?

[forest palm]

Hakuryuu was literally snipped by Amagi before Hakuryuu could shine with FS5

[viscid swift]

the mobile game Azur Lane

unless you have a question about gameplay take it to #al-general or f*ck off

not the place to be asking that sort of question

[sweet delta]

<@&472236072743600148> someone's lost

[viscid swift]

just wait for Shinano to come online

[loud scarab]

also about hestia's skin, isn't 1k gems kind of too much for a dynamic skin?

[undone plover]

default dynamic price is 980

[rapid shard]

Essex it is then. Also is that chart you posted above in any order or just generally the same on each tier?

[loud scarab]

i guess i was influenced by the old trick of 9,99 instead of 10

[viscid swift]

I have not ordered ships within tier to preserve my sanity

[rapid shard]

Understandable lol figured id at least check. Skipping Hakuhou i can start Shimanto next then

[red hawk]

yeah I don't think Haku would be behind shinano if you were tracking in tier

[median prism]

Who in medal shop should i get to eventually replace portland

[rapid shard]

What is your Medal shop choices?

[sweet delta]

Nobody in medal shop really replaces Portland well

[red hawk]

you'll get a few tanky ships from PR/DR but it takes a bit

I think Eldridge was the only one really available from a shop, and that requires the retro item

[rapid shard]

Shes Merit shop

[sweet delta]

Ryu Lion is tankier than Portland and does like double to triple portland damage so you could use her as tank if you have no other tanks

[thorn tartan]

I think Unzen is impactful for fast clearing opsi and also heavy bosses. She needs to move up.

[rain bobcat]

unzen is not the ideal for fast clearing

[thorn tartan]

double wave of torps clears out 1 and sometimes 2nd wave

[rain bobcat]

we use the forbidden tech to fast clear

[stark quiver]

ibuki does it better

[median prism]

Is Roon a replacement?

[thorn tartan]

i'm using ibuki in a torp fleet, fun for heavy bosses

[median prism]

I started development on her

[stark quiver]

and anything more than that is a waste since preload cvs exist
unzen also doesnt impact as much as ARA and eva debuff for heavy fights

[rain bobcat]

also I lowkey havent seen unzen in heavy fight since last year

[stark quiver]

may be because we didnt have a heavy meta

[viscid swift]

1. I don't consider fast clearing OpSi as particularly meaningful
2. there are currently no relevant heavy armor bosses for her to be put to use on, not to mention Trafalgar among other ships came onto the scene last time she was used

[sweet delta]

I haven't seen heavy fight since last year

[rain bobcat]

its like helena kazagumo sirius usually for hermit cv

and for hermit BB clear you wouldn't even think about using unzen

[stark quiver]

who even uses helena lol

[rain bobcat]

over the newer options atleast

[median prism]

Me.

[rain bobcat]

me when I gamble a one strike

[rapid shard]

Do different ships skills buffs stack fully? For example Baltimore giving 15% AVI buff to eagle CVs then Sirius giving 10% AVI buff. Do they fully combine for 25% AVI buff or do they not stack that simply?

[stark quiver]

they stack

[rain bobcat]

stack

but instead of that I'd rather use guam to keep invisibility

[rapid shard]

No reduction when stacking same buff? As long as they dont state that they dont say that in the skill description.

[sharp comet]

miracle or 2 more rld?

[rain bobcat]

wasnt there some mogador/unzen tech last year

[viscid swift]

yes

[rain bobcat]

thats the last I seen them get used

[red hawk]

yes. hence why I said from A shop not medal shop

[rain bobcat]

mogador pulling to face torp in auto iirc?

[viscid swift]

yes

[boreal wagon]

if they stack they stack at full potency

[red hawk]

I didn't realize ryu lion was an upgrade to portland though, might have to do that one at some point

are we able to get MLB copies of both these ships from event?

[sweet delta]

Bring your own bulins

[red hawk]

what bulins XD

[sweet delta]

Doesn't really matter, the cat is bricked anyways

[rapid shard]

Im aware i put that for the guy above

[red hawk]

oh mb

[rapid shard]

all good man

[rain bobcat]

destiny lime goes hard

[red hawk]

I've definitely found a resource wall after spending some time in world 12, between lack of bulins and chips

is the amount of chips from 13-1 worth maybe clearing that first stage

[stark quiver]

i mean its like 20 or so if you have good luck for clearing

[rapid shard]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins

[sharp comet]

⁉️

[stark quiver]

skill issue

[red hawk]

this is why I asked if it's worth: 13-1 has 1% less exp and coins but offers 82% more chips. But note that farming is a tiny part of chip income

[stark quiver]

try restarting game

[stark quiver]

lol no

[red hawk]

it's the literal line copied from the guide

so I wanted clarification if it's worth sitting in 13-1 or just keep where I'm at oil/xp wise

[rapid shard]

I did a bit of 13-1 farming and didnt really notice any major impact on amount of income. Still in chip hell myself

[stark quiver]

dont bother
farm in 12-1. and just dont uncap ships

[red hawk]

sounds like a plan

[viscid swift]

I think you get maybe enough chips to uncap just a single digit number of additional ships per year

[red hawk]

oh wow

guess this is just the cost of me pushing through levelling all this stuff I keep picking up.

[stark quiver]

yea that happens, everyone who grinds experiences cog hell

[red hawk]

definitely feels like we don't get enough gold bulins for the amount of SR's in the game though

[stark quiver]

thats normal
remember to do your pvp

[red hawk]

oh I do

[native moss]

May i ask please, where are the Ryu Lion missions exactly ?
It says once a day until the 15th but i don t see any?

[red hawk]

I still personally feel like 1 or 2 more a month wouldn't be awful

[viscid swift]

you'll eventually catch up

[rapid shard]

Honeslty wouldnt mind if they sold a weekly "boost" pack for gems with a extra 1 or 2 bulins

[stark quiver]

one must only hope

[viscid swift]

only took me 4 years

[stark quiver]

i think im starting to go into bulin debt

[red hawk]

I just have so many shiny new toys I wanna level

[stark quiver]

not anymore for me

[red hawk]

for the great wall do I need both Ning and Ping with Yat Sen?

[stark quiver]

uhh i think 1 is enough, yea one

also bruh i need to level hakuhou and 404 soon, need to oath

[rapid shard]

currently sitting on about 60SRs at 3star cause no bulins i wanna use

[stark quiver]

only 60?

[rapid shard]

lower estimate lol probably closer to 80

[red hawk]

I have all the subs I need for a wolfpack/I404 team but I don't want to MLB any of them while at w12

[stark quiver]

i have like 200ssrs just lying around all need levls

[rain bobcat]

doesn't... each stage of hard mode 3 star give you like 500 cogs

you could technically cope and do that

[rapid shard]

Ranges from like 100-500 depending on how high the stage is

[red hawk]

you dont hit 500 till 11-4

most of them are 200-450 from 7 up

also looks like the individual stage in each chapter matters

[forest palm]

skill issue honestly

[red hawk]

oh wait, some of the X-4 stages below 11 might have had 500+ I cleared up through 10-4 already for carrier retro

[forest palm]

cog chip struggle is real

[red hawk]

I have about 20+ gold ships that need MLB but to be fair only like 2 or 3 of them are even ships that are more than straight D's across the tier list

and yeah I know end game rankings and all, but I have most of the early recommended retros and stuff and they're better than most of my fodder

[hybrid forge]

was the buyable plane from last event any good?

[stark quiver]

Yes

[hybrid forge]

well that sucks (forgot to buy it). What's it for?

[stark quiver]

Heavy bosses thatre slow or stationary

[dapper token]

Can u use fdg at dev 20

[stark quiver]

Yea but it’s not recommended since she’s missing most of her firepower

[zenith heron]

Does anyone have some final opinions about Gouden Leeuw compared to the likes of Napoli and Guam?

[whole crypt]

does Shimanto's skill work on Yuudachi burns?

[midnight bluff]

For Opsi, is there a reason to run a secured map again?

[ivory pawn]

Chance for cat nodes, which is where a lot of the good drops hide.

[knotty jolt]

Doesn't effect special burns

[midnight bluff]

Is there a chance for rainbow gear prints too?

[whole crypt]

yeh that's kind of what I wanted to know, wasn't sure if it was classed as a special burn

[knotty jolt]

Possibly? But it's more if you've done everything and have spare AP you need to spend before reset

[ivory pawn]

Yes. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Meowfficer_search_point

[knotty jolt]

Says special burn on Intel

[urban mountain]

how do you gear hestia

[knotty jolt]

Same as every other repair ship, 2 strong AA guns and triple AA radars

[urban mountain]

ty

[whole crypt]

their one chance to do something different for ARs and they decided to not go for it

[glossy granite]

How useable is Ryu in general?

[robust onyx]

Decently usable

[atomic abyss]

About as decent as most other Collab CLs
So pretty decent

[weary edge]

probably not worth for early game players to build tho is it, especially for me bc rn im in a bit of a shortage of gold bulins after eldridge retrofit

[late flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRbut80Mem0

[weak elk]

what equipment is recomended for hakuhou

[eternal moth]

I imagine it's going to depend on the rest of the fleet.

What are you using her for?

[weak elk]

uh.. boss fleet

[eternal moth]

For what?

Campaign, OpSi, META? If campaign, what chapter?

[weak elk]

perhaps meta? since they are pretty strong?

[eternal moth]

CVs have the widest range of gear available to them, and are most difficult to gear out because of it. It's not like just changing a main gun on BB to go between HE and AP

[weak elk]

is there like a universal gear thats good for all situations or do i have to pick a specific one cuz you cant just bring 1 set

[rain bobcat]

not very specific theres multiple different bossing scenarios with different leeways for equipment

[rain bobcat]

yes there is a universal gear its called use her for only 1 situation and never in a different one otherwise no

I have ships with a single set that I never change unless completely necessary because its a pain in the ass to regear

[atomic solstice]

2 ryuseis and a helldiver

[eternal moth]

Replace Helldiver with Tenrai, and yeah

But if you're trying to time her with any other ships that may not work

[weak elk]

hmm seems hard to pick... cuz my current fleet isnt struggling but i could use something a bit stronger for later, im very bad at figuring things out

[eternal moth]

I have enough ships that I only plan to put her in a fleet with Amagi and Implacable, so she only needs one layout.

In campaign, you may want a combination of fighters and wyverns

[weak elk]

Is tenrai a ur plane?

[lean valley]

UR dive bomber, if you don't have it helldiver works

[eternal moth]

If you don't have Tenrai, the best dive bomber is Helldiver, which is a purple.

Suisei is 🚮

[weak elk]

I uh don't have one lmao

[lean valley]

Also if you have another IJN plane for slot 1, you may want ryusei kai in slot 3

Wait you have no helldivers? I thought you get a +6 one for free from commander levels at least

[weak elk]

Oh helldiver is purple?

[stark quiver]

This should be able to kill 14-4 boss on safe right

[eternal moth]

That's such overkill

[stark quiver]

Like S rank

I sometimes don’t know if it gets S or not

[cobalt flower]

how to easy farm coins in this game? i opened handbook missions and the game told me to do 60 build but i dont have that a lot of coins

[weak elk]

I'm cooked

[wind hazel]

do it over 60 days. 1 light daily, 60 days later, 60 build done

[cobalt flower]

for real? there is no way to farm coins?

[weak elk]

my ijn selection is so bad

[weak elk]

u can farm via clearing stages but it drains ur oil really fast so u might not have enough when an event roll around

[low dove]

has there been combat updates similar to operation siren? Or mostly miscellaneous content

[lilac axle]

am i blind or can you not add hestia to your fleet formation for the bonus trust?

[wind hazel]

farming coin=grinding at w12. i suggested doing over 60days because doing 60 build in a day is a total waste

there's absolutely no reason to do 60 in a day other than during event build

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[wind hazel]

click her in fleet formation

[viscid swift]

she's a main fleet ship

[lilac axle]

thanks, that was the issue, i forgot how repair ships work

[eternal moth]

Why are you trying to make a full IJN fleet?

[rapid summit]

How big of an increases is 12-4 in coins compared to 11-4?

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins/

8.6% more coins per oil

[uneven cave]

How are essex kai and hakuhou compared to other UR CVs

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

[forest palm]

Essex is a transitional piece, and Hakuhou is a top performing Anti Heavy in short

[cerulean musk]

is saratoga/shangrila worth going to 125

[stark quiver]

not rly

[atomic solstice]

if waifu

[cerulean musk]

[atomic solstice]

saratoga too cute

[uneven cave]

Can essex replace enty, and did hakuhou basically bury hakuryuu deeper in the ditch

[wind hazel]

yes yes

[forest palm]

If you want more consistency Essex will do better than Enty, though I'm not sure what you're using her for. Hakuhou ultimately benches Shinano btw

[stone sluice]

Take Azur lane as a long marathon, not a sprint. There’s no rush on getting those 60 builds

[uneven cave]

I was using Enty for W15 and W13H
And if shinano is benched, then i assume the other 2 in the fleet are amagi and implac

[forest palm]

Ya if you need a slow it's going to be Imp + Amagi + HKHO, though if the boss doesn't move you can drop Imp for Nano

[uneven cave]

[lilac osprey]

lowk i started 3 weeks ago and i dont know what im doing i just realized 😭

[red hawk]

haku and shin can be used with AvP if you don't have imagi or implac though right

amagi*

[uneven cave]

Would essex be using pancake 2 wyvern for main campaign?

[lilac osprey]

my fleet 1 does fine but fleet 2 gets shredded

[stark quiver]

i personally would

[red hawk]

cause unless something reruns soon, I'm gonna have AvP done before I'll have a chance at something else

[forest palm]

could do try one Wyvern and one Spearfish

[stark quiver]

cope december

[eternal moth]

You're using ships that aren't limit broken for one

[wind hazel]

is this bug

[stark quiver]

yea i was abt to ask lol
what is this sorcery

[uneven cave]

Spearfish can intercept?

[stark quiver]

no

[forest palm]

I assume that's really bad desync lol

[red hawk]

2* fdg

wonder if that's bugged too

[stark quiver]

thats not fdg

[wind hazel]

your eye is bugged

[red hawk]

yeah it is

I'm still learning ships lol

[wind hazel]

basically, limit break your ships, or don't use them. where are you in campaign right now?

[atomic solstice]

basically the same

[stark quiver]

no, but thats fine because fighter and wyvs are more than enough

[red hawk]

is that PS?

[stark quiver]

you can always go breguet too

[red hawk]

I feel double stupid because I have PS at 120

[lilac osprey]

9-2 i try to limit break my stuff and a chunk of my main fleet is mlb

[stark quiver]

nah shes good faction and 120 tech

[eternal moth]

At chapter 9 literally every single ship you use should be max limit broken

[red hawk]

no, I just mean that I should have recognized her

[wind hazel]

for starter, drop your saint louis, or any non max limit break mainfleet you have

[stark quiver]

125 lore

[red hawk]

I levelled her for IB main and fleet tech for FDG

[forest palm]

my worry with Double Wyvern is that it'll make Essex rather slow that's why I opt for something like Spearfish or Breguet

[wind hazel]

using two Oumi is also not good

[uncut ocean]

Question; What map gives best drops to enhance AVI stat

[eternal moth]

Let me rephrase that, should be MLB

[red hawk]

you don't farm maps for gear

[uncut ocean]

Commons to enhance

[red hawk]

oh ships mb

[uncut ocean]

All good, I should have worded it better

[eternal moth]

12

[red hawk]

yeah I get a lot of carriers out of 12

[stark quiver]

if i dont one shot guild boss compiler do i have supreme skill issue

[wind hazel]

yes

[lilac osprey]

it was that or nagato 🥀

[uncut ocean]

I’ve been spamming 12-4 for a while and seems slow, probably just naturally slower, thanks I’ll keep doing w12

[stark quiver]

es muy malo

[wind hazel]

you can raise cheaper ship like Nelson or Maryland

[red hawk]

wait. waht? I've been borrowing 3 friendly ships with 3 of my best and I'm still not getting through compiler

[lilac osprey]

fair enough lol

[wind hazel]

you have worse than supreme skill issue

[red hawk]

tbf I have done exactly zero looking up optimal setups/ship comps for it

so I'm probably using bad stuff

[viscid swift]

it's just a heavy armor boss

nothing exactly complicated about it

[woven star]

Check friendly ships on gear before use. Most ppl used light/med setup while boss heavy (I mean in solomon raid)

[forest palm]

most Light Armor tools for CVs are inaccessible, so you're always building Med/Heavy with CVs

[lilac osprey]

well overall what do i keep raising and what is like not worth investing fully in

thats like on my team

[eternal moth]

That might be part of the problem. You have no idea what terrible loadouts those ships may have

The average player is really bad at this game

[wind hazel]

depends on your resources. if you have enough gold bulins some ships gonna be worth considering, like essex if you have her retro item

[lilac osprey]

nah i started back up after essex left

[wind hazel]

then drop them lol. look for cheaper alternatives like saratoga, ark royal

[lilac osprey]

unicorn ate all my cv retrofit mats 🥀

[wind hazel]

farm them

it won't be a fast process, it will take days or weeks

[lilac osprey]

yeah i know

[wind hazel]

you can consider raising ryuu from collab, good CL

[lilac osprey]

i do have enough bulins for 1 more MLB rn

[wind hazel]

like idk what else you have, so if you can just open a thread and post your entire dock, we can explore more options before deciding what's good or not

[lilac osprey]

errr

this?

Fleet Build help for progression

[supple wraith]

in opsi, can we set which fleet to use in boss fleets during strategic search or nah?

[viscid swift]

no

[supple wraith]

oh so better to not strategic research very high corrsions?

[wind hazel]

no it's fine, just make a strong mob fleet

[atomic solstice]

ideally the number on the top right of the opsi map matches or exceeds the corrosion

[supple wraith]

oh Mori, I know its a bit early but how is Ryu Lion?

[wind hazel]

good cl, but may or may not be worth your gold bulin, depends on what you have

[late flame]

+more expensive to build due to unique aug
+no fleet tech

[wind hazel]

you mean cheaper

[late flame]

cheaper vs sandy i suppose? lol

[wind hazel]

no, cheaper because the aug is free

[quiet kiln]

My "planned" mob fleet, should i put jintsuu meta or an shan on the empty slot?

[wind hazel]

vs ships that require aug to perform*

[viscid swift]

mob fleet for what

[quiet kiln]

W13

[viscid swift]

that's a terrible mob fleet for W13

replace NJ and Constellation with 2 carriers

and between teh 2 an shan

but if An SHan isn't alreayd retrofitted I wouldn't bother retrofitting her

[rapid summit]

Can unicorn work just as well in opsi as she does in campaign?

[viscid swift]

yes

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

[quiet kiln]

Essex and implacable? The only max carriers i got

[viscid swift]

they should probbaly be in the boss fleet then, what else have you got

[wind hazel]

maybe delay w13 if those 2 are your only max carrier

[viscid swift]

no need to rush W13, so take your time and get a good fleet together first

[viscid swift]

get Aquila up for sure

Thesus or Enterprise for the other slot

[sweet delta]

Uni Percy Aquila

[quiet kiln]

3 healers on the mob fleet?

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't bother with Perseus personally

[quiet kiln]

So uni aquila and who? Ill probably have to save essex for the boss fleet with implacable

[sweet delta]

Bois would be the premier option there but enterprise is better elsewhere and also higher invested already

So Essex mob, enterprise and rainbow BB boss

[viscid swift]

^

You might also want to consider investing in more dock space

[sharp socket]

184 dockspace is not enough by the time you're at w13

[tawny bear]

is it possible to get those

[brittle yoke]

are we able to get ryu right now?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[lucid orchid]

I rmb there is a sheet for all ship girls strength and weakness

[silent hearth]

should i use the Tenzan Kai over the Wyvern on enterprise for the Yuudachi Meta Fight? My Tenzan Kai is only a +7 ATM

[rain bobcat]

do you not have ryuusei

[silent hearth]

I do, its on my Hakuhou

im going into it with oumi-hakuhou-enterprise. i was thinking about using Izumo but most of my BB gear is sub-par (ive just gotten RNG to give me far more plane prints and whatnot)

Izumo is also only fate sim 2, though she does have her aug

[sick kettle]

poi meta worth investing? I've now reached 25k sync points

[safe nexus]

if my ship is below lvl 100 and cant do 12-1 to grind exp, should i go for 11-1?

[silent hearth]

not sure what to change, im getting it down 75% on first fight, so about 25% each fight. I could probably change out anchorage, but shes not bad DPS and helps with damage mitigation.

[silent hearth]

11-1 i think is considered the best oil-xp ratio. its just slower then 12-4 and alot less coins.

[safe nexus]

alright thx, kinda annoying i gotta manual each boss fight

[knotty jolt]

I mean carriers are heavily gear reliant. The difference between good damage is gear

[silent hearth]

yeah, but get them to 100 and it will become a cakewalk

[safe nexus]

i will go to 12-1 after that tho

[knotty jolt]

Most general use equipment for them are almost primarily made for heavy armor with things like flapjacks, quad torp bombers or converging, and bombs

[silent hearth]

i dont have stuff for gear lab atm,

[knotty jolt]

For lighter armored enemies things like Rockets would be ideal

[silent hearth]

yeah the only other option for fights ATM is the F4U Corsair for me

[knotty jolt]

I'd say your best setup would be the most simplest setup of just all battleships

Equipped with HE guns and the radar scan from Helena ye olde classic

[silent hearth]

Hakuhou is definitely my second highest DMG, the highest ive managed to get Izumo is 30K even with timing the radar scan just right. ill give it another try right now and see what we can get upto and post it.

[knotty jolt]

Remember to equip fire extinguishers to your vanguard

[silent hearth]

yupyup

[knotty jolt]

Only other suggestion I can think of would be try fitting in Aurora as she can help

[silent hearth]

my only BB options ATM

[knotty jolt]

Damn, slim pickings

[rain bobcat]

ur getting severely cucked by NJ not being usable

[knotty jolt]

I mean right now she might as well be the third strongest battleship

[rain bobcat]

also how do you not have warspite

[silent hearth]

yup. ive been debating on just spamming heavy build to either get the pity or if i get lucky and get NJ

[rain bobcat]

only if you whale

[silent hearth]

Warspite is on the merity rotation right?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[silent hearth]

20k?

[rain bobcat]

yes

you need to buy warspite and eldridge from merit

[knotty jolt]

Honestly after checking her skills, dunkerque meta might actually be one of your best choices for a full bb fleet vs yuudachi meta

[silent hearth]

ill save up to get her. i was spamming iris gear to get the blue twin torp from the tech box to make the trip torp for anchor

really? hmmmm..... i might get her a shot. she is max skills and MLB

[knotty jolt]

Dunkerque, NJ, and oumi try that

[silent hearth]

should i keep the vanguard the same? im going to start getting yuudachi meta up there next, i just got the retro for sanny

Tashkent and Yat Sen is also on my list

to build up*

[knotty jolt]

This might be a long shot but do you have the French torpedoes from gear lab even one copy would work

[rain bobcat]

I doubt it'll make enough of a difference that you can get 33% off

[knotty jolt]

My mind is wandering to possibly equipping ibuki with the light armor pen toros from the French

[silent hearth]

i dont think i do

[knotty jolt]

Otherwise try takao

[silent hearth]

swap Ibuki out for Takao? Or Anchorage?

[knotty jolt]

Anchorage depending on the survival rate of your vanguard

[silent hearth]

alright, ill give it a try with the BB setup suggestion. ill report back in a few.

[rain vine]

ancho helena ibuki probably

[dapper token]

If I got the ur selection from mission and I alr MLB Shinano and NJ what should I use it for

[knotty jolt]

The UR invite from the newb missions?

[dapper token]

Yes

[rain vine]

scrap

[knotty jolt]

Free cores and medals I guess

[dapper token]

Aight better than nothing ig

[silent hearth]

unfortunatly my BBs did not match up. Takao did a bit more then Anchorage, but without anchorage's mitigation my Ibuki crumpled halfway through the fight

[knotty jolt]

Ya forgot Helena

The radar scan is what makes them hurt

[rain bobcat]

2nd secretary skin slot if you buy multiple skin

[silent hearth]

yeah, ill give Helena a chance, ill probably put anchorage back in and swap Ibuki out

[knotty jolt]

Also show me the gear on dunkerque and NJ

Cause that damage even for 5/6 NJ is low

[rain bobcat]

that NJ should not be doing 24k even when missing a gun mount

[woven star]

Gear and lvl lack

[knotty jolt]

[woven star]

Augments?

[silent hearth]

yeah im getting her up, she just hit 115

[knotty jolt]

Even with the bare necessities that is really low what is happening

[silent hearth]

the only BB augments i have are on Oumi, ive been using them for special augments (right now im saving up for Sanny's augment)

[rain bobcat]

you should have gotten sandy augment before retro

[silent hearth]

skills mby?

[knotty jolt]

Might be skills ye

[silent hearth]

i had the BPs for retro, i dont have the stones for augment

[woven star]

[silent hearth]

this account is around a month old now, so i havnt had the chance to get some of the more time gated stuff.

[red hawk]

You would easily get the stuff you need for her retro in the first month

[dapper token]

Who is the strongest bb then

[red hawk]

Well the item you need anyway

[silent hearth]

which is why i have her retro, not her augment.

[knotty jolt]

I was referring to their bbs

[dapper token]

Ahhh I see

[woven star]

Swap on Twin 120mm (QF Mark XII) dd guns for bbs

[red hawk]

Yeah but her Aug would be like the first one you build what are you using your Aug stones on?

I'm trying to understand how you have a full SSR retrofitted but not even stones for a single augment

[rain bobcat]

lion>alsace mecklen

[red hawk]

Especially considering we had an event with stones as a reward

[silent hearth]

Ibuki, Takao and Izumo. i didnt even have sanny until 3-4 days ago

[knotty jolt]

I still like zwei

[red hawk]

Oh so your priority is just not following any guides or anything

You're just doing whatever and that's why

[silent hearth]

You do realize this game is absolutely massive and taking in every bit of information from multiple sources is very overwhelming? FK off with the condessending shit.

[rain vine]

no one said anything condescending, thats literally just the fact of the matter
nothing wrong with that

[red hawk]

I was trying to understand why your resources were stretched so strangely

Most people do generally follow the guides to a point

Even if they aren't married to the exact setup

[silent hearth]

No, Lerim was being very condescending. ive been trying to follow guides, if you can tell me where the guide is that says 'buy sandy and get her aug before anything else' then maybe i might understand, i dont even know where to find a augment guide

prior to the miniguides

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules i didnt know this was a thing until earlier this week

[rain bobcat]

unfortunate

[silent hearth]

yes, and i didnt have Sanny until after i had already gotten ibuki/izumo/takao. Takao was litterally my first augment i ever got

also izumo and ibuki are some of the top augments. Takao was a mistake

[red hawk]

Bro you want condescending? Do you really? How hard are you struggling to find an augment module guide when /equip is in here or botspam multiple times a day

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[silent hearth]

i litterally didnt even join disc until 2 weeks ago, well after i had started playing.

[red hawk]

That's me being condescending you prick

[sick kettle]

asking this again

[silent hearth]

ah fk it, just gonna mute you shithead. whatever you have to say isnt worth listening to.

[woven star]

Sry misspelled

[rain vine]

better than yuudachi retro, though i guess thats not much of a bar
pretty good gold though

[woven star]

Am "poi"? Anyway nvm

[rain bobcat]

she's a dog

[woven star]

https://youtu.be/LUgwyBe1hZc?si=XxAaUvEjmGchlX_X

May this help

[rain bobcat]

also Poi is a history/meme thing

[rain vine]

kancolle reference

[knotty jolt]

Kancolle joke

[rain bobcat]

also a history thing

[woven star]

Yeah. Found this "maybe"

[robust nymph]

when is the next research reset available?

[rain bobcat]

30m

[robust nymph]

ty, got hit with the quintuple H again

[vapid finch]

Hey guys, how do you make an npc rest if you cant put her in a dome?

[onyx flame]

Cant, just gotta wait till you actually obtain her

[vapid finch]

So you just gotta wait until she’s happy again, and keep grinding the resources until you obtain her?

I’ve been doing some afk battles while playing another game

And yeah, I wont complain once I unlock her on day three and make her rest in a dome

[onyx flame]

P much, there no real need to level hestia or use her to gain more points unless you really wanna rush the grind

[knotty jolt]

Ya can still farm affinity as she doesn't need to be in fleet also how'd you run out of morale on her? You only need her in the boss fleet, that's one battle

[atomic solstice]

agir coin-able?

[safe nexus]

how to get more tuning other than shop and exploring?

[wind hazel]

repeat secured

[safe nexus]

ok ty

is it better to go the same zone?

[vapid finch]

I just wanted to grind until I have enough to unlock her on the 3rd day

[wind hazel]

repeat c3/c5

[rain vine]

doesnt really matter, as long as you farm corrosion 3 or corrosion 5
corrosion 1 if you have 1000+ ap

[wind hazel]

if you repeat it will be on the same zone

[vapid finch]

I used her in every battle, including the boss stage. But it’s fine, I can wait now

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[bold peak]

Put her in dorm, if you want to recover morale a bit quicker

[vapid finch]

Cant, I’m currently using an npc. Npcs cannot be put into a dome

[hallow mountain]

is Kearsage good for pvp?

i maxed her dev and she has pretty good gear but i feel like she's a bit lacking compared to NJ

[wind hazel]

no

[hallow mountain]

good to know

[red sapphire]

Good morning chat. I was looking for slow support CVs and I found this equipment (the Torpedo Bomber that slows 60% for 8s). Seems interesting, does it have actual use or is it not worth at all?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Swordfish_(818_Squadron)

[rain vine]

not worth it when you can just get a cv with a complete time stop so there is 0 chance of missing

[red sapphire]

I see, make sense. Thank you

[whole crypt]

for the record Hestia doesn't need to be in the fleet to farm trust, she just increases the points you get per clear if she's in the boss fleet and survives, not sure what chapter you're up to though since it'll take more fights in early game

[safe nexus]

what is siren contruct again? i forgot

[whole crypt]

data logging towers and scanning devices, unless you're looking to clear up the relevant exploration stars you can skip them on repeats

they can offer you a bit of stuff but if you want to just afk and burn AP I'd skip them

[safe nexus]

ok tyvm

[peak fable]

so uh... I am getting absolutely blasted on World 12, where do I get cog chips if I can't farm 12-1?

[muted wind]

daily raids and the monthly core shop, mostly

[wind hazel]

how are you getting blasted in 12-1 something is wrong with that

[safe nexus]

i wanna see your fleet, could you make a thread and shop gear and the fleet?

[bold peak]

(2), hard level start at 13-1, either underleveled or something wrong with the fleet..

[safe nexus]

funny how can clear W10 and W11 but not 12

[wind hazel]

hard level start at 14-3

[safe nexus]

how to get more blue general gear part

[peak fable]

my mob fleet, usually dies by 4th combat (not my vanguard, my backline)

yes I use the AA formation

[bold peak]

Saratoga retro?

[peak fable]

my AA weapons are +8 purples, I have literally ZERO golden AA guns

[wind hazel]

use a tank

[bold peak]

The vanquard need cruiser

[wind hazel]

what gear do they run?

[safe nexus]

a complete DD vanguard cool

[peak fable]

my vanguard can easily do 20 combats if unicorn stays alive

[wind hazel]

i mean not necessarily. hull doesn't determine their role

[peak fable]

my problem is that the planes just murder my main fleet

[bold peak]

More Aa no?

[wind hazel]

cruiser doesn't mean more aa

[peak fable]

I honestly thought about using Hestia

[wind hazel]

no. just show your fleet gear

[bold peak]

Even cl?