gameplay-help

[muted wind]

... well, you're not getting i-404, but may as well spend those before they expire tomorrow

[onyx flame]

if you really want her to be up and running faster while coining, i would rather save it to convert the bps to protocore.

[wind hazel]

if you have dev30 harbin yes. otherwise no, i'd rather convert them to protocore

[rapid shard]

By middle of PR8 do you mean progress towards pr8 rainbow gear or ship BPs acquired?

[wary saffron]

Rip

[violet grail]

don't I have to have a dev 30 ship to begin with to convert blueprints to protocore?

only one I have is saint louis at dev 15

[wind hazel]

yes, that's why i said no if you dont have dev30 harbin

[rapid shard]

Ive only got around 15ish prints for pr8 rainbow gun currently and less than 100bps on each pr8 ship. Around 80ish on each

[wind hazel]

if you wanna do catchup, do it on anchorage or agir or shimanto

[wary saffron]

What should I spend those coins on then

[wind hazel]

preferably anchorage so that you can have a good tank running

[cobalt rapids]

i would stick to 8 for now
let me check UR rerun timeslots

[viscid swift]

Soyuz would be like March or April ish

[wary saffron]

What do I do with those

[wind hazel]

open them in cat lounge

[rapid shard]

That should be way more than enough time to get Nakh dev30 and off my current roster and upcoming reruns that would honestly probably be one of the strongest fleet options till others rerun. Hence why im curious if I should swap

[wind hazel]

swap by Christmas

[cobalt rapids]

yea
so time slot is appropiate but your progress isnt worth abandoning on 8
its not like ure set back behind by taking 8>7 even if nahki -soyuz pair is on the horizon because on current timeline if ure active and decently optimal u can complete both 7 and 8 by the time 9 hits and prios might change

[violet grail]

my bad its 40

[rapid shard]

What is the average timefame between the next PR sets?

[floral latch]

Chat question, is Zara better than retro Portland? If so, then I will give her the final star and everything on Portland to her to replace her seat as Heavy Cruiser

[cobalt rapids]

1 year between their release ( july )

[floral latch]

Zara it is?

[cobalt rapids]

Not worth investing gold bulins only for portland but 5% better and gold

[rapid shard]

Retro portland will be usable till W12(she can clear 12). You might wanna save gold bulins because you might end up getting much better options and gold bulins are hard to come by as a newer player

[floral latch]

Well, I'm currently in sort of confusion on what to do with my fleet. I have two. Boss and Mob.

Boss will handle 3 striped battleship/carrier and bosses.

Mob will handle the destroyers

[rapid shard]

Just focus on 1 fleet till you hit W9 to W10

[wind hazel]

just let mob do every mob, boss fleet for boss

[rapid shard]

Do you have Unicorn yet?

[floral latch]

Boss : Taihou, Richie, Centaur (12198 total, all 100 lvl)/Ayanami, Nimi, Belfast (12295, all level 100 and retrofitted)

Mobs : , Hood, Warspite (11990, Essex 96, Warspite 92 retro, hood 104)/Laffey 96, London 109, Helena 99 (11167, all retrofitted)

[floral latch]

Yep, but barely even used

[wind hazel]

where are your unicorn, or tanks

[rapid shard]

You need to level and retro her asap then. She is arguably the best investments you can make in this game

Also the fleetpower number means nothing

[wind hazel]

where are you in campaign?

[floral latch]

What do you mean tanks? Ya mean the repair nun? She is out there rn to get her level upped

[violet grail]

Are all of these max limit broken?

[rapid shard]

Much bigger issues than that

[floral latch]

She is currently 86 level. I'll send her out when the level up fleet is back.

[wind hazel]

a durable ship that can tank for your entire vanguard, you're lacking one

[violet grail]

Sure but would be more useful info than fleet power XD

[floral latch]

Yes. All of them, except ones that isn't hit 100 yet.

[floral latch]

Give me names, I'm might had one but didnt put them in yet

[wind hazel]

Portland lol

[wind hazel]

also

[floral latch]

Chap 9, not yet starting

[floral latch]

She is here. But idk where to put her.

[rapid shard]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[rapid shard]

Read up on the fleetbuilding sections

[wind hazel]

maybe easier to open a thread and post your entire dock

lemme fix your fleet 🔧

[violet grail]

Take the offer fox, mori's advice is a godsend.

[rapid shard]

Can confirm he does fix bad fleet setups ||definitely dont use him for fleet advice a lot||

[wind hazel]

i give misinfo sometimes

[floral latch]

I am... Super conflicted and confused @w@

[rapid shard]

Just start a thread in this channel and post your whole dock in it

Mori opened it up for you

[rapid shard]

I think he just enjoys fixing fleets and seeing what kind of random setups he can make from others docks

[wind hazel]

just repaying because this channel helped me when i was a noob, cheeky helped me a lot so im kinda inspired and helping in return

[floral latch]

Sended

[wary saffron]

Guys will I lose my pity or is it permanent

[desert cove]

cat paw in the corner

[wary saffron]

Like the 52/400

[wind hazel]

it's permanent

[desert cove]

u dont lose it?

[wary saffron]

What do I do with it

[stark quiver]

It’s perma pity so no

[wind hazel]

just ignore it unless you really wanna complete the shitty quest

[desert cove]

its something to do with shinarui

[wind hazel]

/wiki akashi questline

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[stark quiver]

Me when sack my hard mode progression

[desert cove]

i lied ig

[desert cove]

howd that sack ur hard mode

[wind hazel]

read the questline wiki

[rapid shard]

Cause she forces you to do a bunch of runs of hard mode from W2,3,4 and 5

[desert cove]

ah

[rapid shard]

10 days of hardmodes on low worlds

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

depends on where you're using her

[rocky lake]

Is Krohnstadt even worth investing into?

[wind hazel]

tenrai works fine

[stark quiver]

She’s really low priority as a UR

[wind hazel]

one of the last

[rocky lake]

yeah i thought as much

[wind hazel]

well not anymore

[rapid shard]

A long time ago she was

[turbid marsh]

you are coorect. was

[atomic abyss]

technically she was one the top DPSes amongst tanks

but here's the thing

why do you need a tank to be a DPS

[crimson glacier]

i dont think her dmg is that meaningfully better anyway

[atomic abyss]

if you needed something to tank stuff you'd bring something that can tank more

[crimson glacier]

she isnt touching any actual dps numbers

[atomic abyss]

if you needed the DPS then you'd use an actual DPS that happens to be above average in bulk

[turbid marsh]

i forgot how tanky kronk is cause i remembered golden lieu was a little bit superior

[wind hazel]

yes
no idea but should be soon

[wary saffron]

I got some of those while gambling are any of them good

[forest palm]

all 4 over those aren't worth investing in

[wary saffron]

So basically they are useless?

[gilded carbon]

Tech for the Future

[jade maple]

Btw are we also having the danmachi collab on en?

[gilded carbon]

Yes. Tomorrow

[sweet delta]

#game-news 🥀

[stone sluice]

I’d go Tashkent

But you need one more bullin

[silk helm]

🥀🥀🥀

[wary saffron]

What are those bulins needed for

[scarlet cosmos]

limit breaking tashkent

[red sapphire]

What's a good stage to farm shipyard exp? One with good equipment drops?

[rapid shard]

Map drops unless they are events aint worth farming. For xp 12-1 or 12-4

[red sapphire]

I can't likelly do 12-X because the ships are underleveled. I gues I head to 7-2 or alike?

[rapid shard]

Just keep pushing campaign till W9. You unlock oil cap then and it makes farming way more efficient.

W8 and below will eat oil really fast running full fleets

[red sapphire]

I'm W13 but I want to farm exp for USS vanguard ships wich are underleveled

[onyx flame]

jsut bring 1 high lvl ship to tank or strong backline/crossfleet to speed clear

[rapid shard]

12-4 you can run 1 decent tank lv90-100ish with unicorn and rest can be 70-80 with okayish gear no issue

[red sapphire]

I can try

[onyx flame]

worse case exp book em to like 70-80 and then ball

[red sapphire]

Why 12-4? The ship drop? Everyone say 12-4 is great farming place

[rapid shard]

For mob that is. Just run a normal boss fleet for the boss. Im currently running a Klaudia as a healer with a lv80bb and lv70cv. With roon at 100 and 2 purples at 70 clearing zero issue

[turbid marsh]

great oil exp coin ratio

[onyx flame]

12-4 is one of the best spots for coins and it weak enough that you can drag low level ship in

[turbid marsh]

with relatively easy enemies as well. weaker ships then go for 12-1 until lv110, then go 12-4

[red sapphire]

Oh okay very cool thanks

[onyx flame]

if you dont need as much coins go 12-1, for better exp to oil rates

[rapid shard]

12-1 is slightly more xp to slightly coins. 12-4 is very slightly less xp but slightly more coins.

[red sapphire]

Something like this for mob then?

[rapid shard]

Klaudia needs MLB and so does Oumi

[onyx flame]

ya that should work oumi might perish thou

[rapid shard]

Oumi needs flag as well and just throw some books to get her 70-75

[onyx flame]

nah keep her off flag for now

[red sapphire]

So I can't really greed for leveling main fleet at same time...

[onyx flame]

you dont want her to die then cause the mob fleet to fail

[rapid shard]

She's just too low and needs MLB

[umbral briar]

ask, I want to add Lion, but who is suitable to replace Lion? Or should I put it in the fleet barrage?

[red sapphire]

I will just throw levelled ships on main then. I don't have LB aviable rn

[onyx flame]

like for 12-x stage most of the time you mainline usually will fail first if you dont have super good AA cause plane crash dmg

[wind hazel]

soyuz

[umbral briar]

lion Flag or no?

[wind hazel]

if you have nakhimov you can just run lion soyuz nakhimov

[umbral briar]

i have

[wind hazel]

use that then only fleet you will need

[rapid shard]

Yeah once shes MLB and 70-75 throw her in flag slot to actually make use of her barrage and that fleet will clear on safe lvl no issue

[umbral briar]

is it ok for VG or is there anything that can be replaced?

[wind hazel]

z52 traf ply

[red sapphire]

I think I can use this for farming

[umbral briar]

traff still lvl 100

[rapid shard]

Yeah long as its down to safe you'll have zero issues

Make sure they have some decentish gear tho

[wind hazel]

better level her up then

[umbral briar]

Is she good? rarely raises VG because is slow to get XP.

[wind hazel]

very good

[rapid shard]

Doesn't traf buff lion like crazy?

[red sapphire]

Yeah

Nah I can't I'm dropping Unicorn and stop greed xD

[rapid shard]

If you struggle on heals with Klaudia with her not being MLB just swap out for uni

[umbral briar]

will be like this? and for another fleet? it still ok?

[wind hazel]

soyuz not alsace lol

if this fleet doesn't kill any boss that opsi can offer then your other bb or cv team can finish it off

[umbral briar]

oh lion soyuz nikamov?

[wind hazel]

yes

soyuz is needed to activate nakhimov's freeze

^ so make sure they are within 0.2 from one another

[red sapphire]

Is Choukai good? Now that I'm farming 12-4 I wonder if she's worth if drops

[wind hazel]

no

[red sapphire]

Alright

[hazy olive]

St. Louis or Asama?

For mob fleet

[viscid swift]

which St. Louis

[hazy olive]

Saint Louis French

[cobalt rapids]

asama isnt worth raising

[hazy olive]

I had 5 lying around so I was told to raise her in prep for Unzen

[rapid shard]

This is current fleets and gear i have setup for W14 push. any glaring issues or things i should swap? NJ is boss and Oumi is mob

[stark quiver]

Rudders on cruisers

[rapid shard]

I lack majority of whats on the W14 guide. Ship wise that is

[cobalt rapids]

swap the vanguards except the tanks

[atomic abyss]

you can lack ships, but you cant afford to slack on gear

personally i would discourage pushing to 14 at all

[cobalt rapids]

actl just run sandy harbin eldr mob and agir ibuki ancho boss

[viscid swift]

you need more ASW in the mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

is there even enough ACV for AS

[rapid shard]

Was gonna throw Hedgehog on sandy for mob in -3 and -4 when they show up.

[viscid swift]

Warspite in W14 might also just be actively griefing yourself, especially on mobbing

[violet grail]

In opsi the rainbow R6 coordinate logger in exchange shop is for an R6 abyssal zone right? If at the end of the month I still don't feel like I can handle it should I grab a classified files logger instead with my last 800 points or still go for the R6 and just do a partial clear?

[rapid shard]

Would swapping out ArkRoyalKai or going double healer with Klaudia instead of Warspite be better?

[viscid swift]

suchi has his end game tier list linked in the W14 guide which does rank ships for W14 on both mobbing and bossing

might wanna give it a look

[boreal wagon]

btw i missed this earlier this isnt my tool scamming you this is in-game scamming you because it doesnt account for quite a lot of things that go into reloads
(you can always click on the reload numbers on ships to see exactly why it might differ)

[rapid shard]

Yeah the ramming ships gave me problems when i ran 14-1 that why i was thinking double BB. Next best BBs i have is Georgia and not being able to throw the 155kai on her im worried bout intercepting the rammers

[cobalt rapids]

ur backlines arent properly staggered
more stuff will leak when new waves stay up for longer and dont die to aoes

[viscid swift]

The 10k hp kageros don't even appear until what 14-3

[cobalt rapids]

and georgia is like doodoo

[viscid swift]

Why double toolbox

[cobalt rapids]

kagerous are from 14-1

[rapid shard]

yeah the kagerous wiped me on last no ammo fight when i tried before

[viscid swift]

Oumi's long range secondaries might be more curse than blessing here

But the fleet as a whole is not helping

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if it was subs that actually killed you

[cobalt rapids]

14-1 doesnt have subs

[rapid shard]

Subs per the guide dont show till -3 and -4

thats why i dont have the hedgehog on and forgot to put second catpult on uni for that screenshot lol

[viscid swift]

I will again say you should be able to clear just fine even running the useless asw gear

[cobalt rapids]

do these changes
equip ur vanguards with proper surv auxes ( that means eva gear like rudder for cruisers )
and properly stagger ur backline
klaudia would be better over warspite
but if u want more options then open a thread and post ur dock

[rapid shard]

Ill post a thread

W14 Fleet setup

[split gazelle]

speaking of ch14, I need a 2nd opinion. Without much context would this be fine?

[cobalt rapids]

without much context this looks fine

actually not fine
boss doesnt need asw

[viscid swift]

it's fine, hedghog should be in the mob fleet

I'd also prefer a TB on essex over then tenrai

[cobalt rapids]

tenrai is good

[split gazelle]

I see, any specific unit the hedgehog better on?

[cobalt rapids]

give it to traf

[split gazelle]

tyty

[weak shell]

imo for w14-4, I prefer fdg raffa uni over 1 BB + 2 healers

even on lethal if you stop and grab ammo

and I prefer hedgehog on mob fleet, not boss, boss have some subs but worst case they take your cv stealth, in mob your backline might just die if you hit too many DD/recon fleet

[cobalt rapids]

boss does not have subs

[viscid swift]

the boss has 0 subs

[cobalt rapids]

i recommend sticking to ur current line up

[weak shell]

I don't watch boss fight, mb

double healer with full DD front runs into the problem of not enough gun damage to kill the insanely tanky ramming ships so I prefer FdG over a 2nd healer

but either works, nothing a bit of manual can't solve

[floral latch]

How to get Prototype core?

[cobalt rapids]

convert data packs and analyze blueprints ( usually the catchup from s1-4 )

[weak shell]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/common_resource/

[spark patio]

does Ironblood winery actually give us +22 comfort points with 1200+ dorm coins only? or it just scam

[cobalt rapids]

if on buy screen it says it provides + comfort with green then it will

[spark patio]

i found this very funny when 3000+ coins worth theme only give +30 while 1200+ coins worth theme give you +22 already

btw, what is the total exp bonus cap?

[weak shell]

eventually just about everything gives you 0 comfort anyways

I'm at 503

defi not the cap, I think I have seen people with higher comfort

[cobalt rapids]

well the theme themselves arent amazing to buy if u only aim for comfort because not everything that bundle will boost it
its better to buy individual pieces if u wanna maximize it

[forest palm]

simpler to say that comfort gains plateau at 400 after that you can just buy w/e you like

they'd have to fundamentally change comfort scaling to give anything after 400 meaningful value

[woven star]

At least before you'll buy theme it tells you will you get some comfort points or not. So you know is it contained comfort items in theme or not

[forest palm]

it doesn't after a point...

[woven star]

yeah, I mean this. at some point you'll stop getting them but at least you could know if you can

[forest palm]

still I maintain there's no value in worry about comfort after 400

[woven star]

I don't know if it's knowing info but I realized it just few month ago. so I recheck all my unbought theme

[forest palm]

after a point you do have to spend on gem furniture to go anywhere above 470's

[woven star]

oh no-no-no... gemfree

unless dock space will be over or near 700+

[forest palm]

again it's just a fools errand

[hot merlin]

Guys, amagi or shinano needs the flag spot

[atomic abyss]

neither of them do

[hot merlin]

In a fleet where it's all CVs?

with hakuhou?

[atomic abyss]

none of them have flag skills

i guess shinano's very weak butterfly barrage wants flag but

[hot merlin]

Ty

[atomic abyss]

i would sooner consider the position for syncing

[hot merlin]

position affects sync?

[atomic abyss]

yes

or rather positions can affect how ships stagger

say if you have 2 carriers with the exact same airstrike cooldown

the one in flag will launch first

[hot merlin]

Jeex that kind of tech is there huh

[atomic abyss]

it's less a tech

more of a possible reason of why things dont seem to work according to the calcs

this is a bigger issue for BBs anyways

since their absolute cooldown is noticeably longer

[rain bobcat]

make the one firing 2nd flag for eldridge coping

[wary saffron]

I bought Trento meta is she good

[rapid shard]

Elite Metas are not really good in general

[wary saffron]

Well rip I mainly got her for simping purposes

[stark quiver]

thats fine then

[oblique mortar]

Who's the better healer: Perseus or Unicorn?

[sweet delta]

For typical battles they heal the same, but unicorn does more damage

[wary saffron]

Unicorn heals peoples???

How the cat

[sweet delta]

[forest palm]

reading skills must be some wild concept

[wary saffron]

Also I have a bunch of bulins why can’t I use them to limit break others

[oblique mortar]

my unicorn skill is level 10 and I JUST unlocked perseus I can't really compare their healing skills considering that perseus' skill are all level 1 and I don't wanna do the math to figure that out, AND she has 2 skills related to healing

[violet grail]

In the core data shop is it worth buying second copies of type 1 ap shell and super heavy shell or would I be better off getting breguet torpedo bombers to replace purple barracudas on my cvs?

[cobalt rapids]

there is wiki and aldb u can check skill
on aldb u can see it on all lvls

[stark quiver]

are they locked or over l;evel; 1

[sweet delta]

Second white and one breguet bet

[wary saffron]

They aren’t locked

[violet grail]

you cant use purples on SR or higher, you cant use gold bulins on UR girls. also maybe if you levelled the bulins, you might need to uncheck the button top right that hides >lv1 stuff

[wary saffron]

All my bulins are level 2 probably bc I sent them on commissions

[wary saffron]

Thank you

[weary edge]

god forbid somebody ask for help about gameplay in the gameplay help channel

actually helping people instead of leaving a sarcastic insulting remark must be some wild concept

[rapid shard]

Bro youve been saying for the last 2-3 days. Read the resources provided so the same exact message is typed out 50+ times a day. and the guides that get linked when someone asks answers the question if you actually read it

[agile patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/pls-stop-fighting-stop-fighting-anime-stop-fighting-gif-14434394251889692086

[stark quiver]

lol

<@&460646206851252224> please obliterate this man

[rapid shard]

discord actually doing a nice thing now

[violet grail]

If I want to farm a specific ship from campaign, is it better to do so on the lowest map she drops from with a 1:1 fleet of common lv 1 ships or to do it on an oil capped map with my usual xp farming fleets even if it means going down to ch 10 instead of 12?

In this case in particular I'm looking to farm Rodney so I can get Nelson's pennant of victory from collection rewards.

Oh thats nice that it autohides the spam messages 😮

[viscid swift]

I'd rather lowcost farm myself but whether you can pull off a true low cost fleet is another matter

[violet grail]

Hm i shouldnt need much to farm 2-4, the options are 2-4, 5-4 and 10-3

[stark quiver]

10-3 isnt bad

2-4 is good to farm if you can > use level 70 0 limit break ranger and cassin or downes

[rapid shard]

5-4 does drop gold quad bofor bps so might be worth farming there to hopfully get a few extras. I think going for a blue is worse than farming for a SR drop at least in my experience

[rain bobcat]

rodney?

just use lb0 zombie and its better to farm 2-4

[viscid swift]

Gold Bofors are agressively mediocre

[rapid shard]

True but mid gold AA is better than purple AA

[viscid swift]

not enough to farm them to any degree

[violet grail]

I just crafted a Hazemeyer, but definetly can always use some more AAs, but dont think im willing to farm 5-4, I couldnt make a cheap fleet for that probably.

mostly running purple roombas XD

[stark quiver]

113 purple is slower than the q40 but has both more alpha damage and longer range

[rapid shard]

How exactly is a AA determined to be good or bad? Like comparing twin 90mm vs quadbofors? both have very similar stats on the card. i know they both are not reccomened but just using them as a example

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys, this gun any good to make?

[stark quiver]

twin 90 is good

[stark quiver]

twin 90 has more range

and high range is always preferred

[rapid shard]

is the 3 points of range that huge of a difference?

[knotty dome]

got these from a youtube vid, so in my tech i should set to +13 and +0 RLD respectively?

[stark quiver]

kinda yes

[stark quiver]

yes but whats this for

[knotty dome]

algerie meta

[quaint shadow]

Chat is it stupid that I put this on NJ never really encountered any problem using it

[sweet delta]

You usually match guns to the enemy, not to the ship. So if NJ has been fighting medium or heavy bosses, then it was good. However, +11 something is not very good because you should save to +13 something good at once. If you +11 something and get tempted to +11 another thing, that's bad

[peak fable]

how do you guys MLB rare units like Leipzig? I got one of her from collection, but I looked it up and she is actually not farmable...
do you just wait to get her randomly from building ships or do you use purple bulins for her?

[rain bobcat]

bulin

[ivory pawn]

If I actually want them MLB now, bulin.
If I’m in no rush, wait for spook.

[stark quiver]

Wasn’t there supposed to be a blue outline around this box

[rapid shard]

Is there any good breakdown vids or guides on how AA works? trying to actually understand how it works

[stark quiver]

idk, i never seen one myself

[austere flower]

Is there another way to get gems? I am lv 31 and the only way I can get gems is from Clearing the stages in the main story.

[rain bobcat]

yes you pay

[sweet delta]

The wiki for damage calculations might say what AA does

[austere flower]

Free way?

Without paying

[rain bobcat]

main story

[stark quiver]

bro

[rain bobcat]

and farm coping in ch1/2

[stark quiver]

island mode gives some, but itll probably take a long time
momento has a fair amount, but not worth for noob
others are time locked such as en anniin august and lunar new year

[rain bobcat]

not recommended anyway if you plan playing for long

not having 300+ dock space is pure masochism

[austere flower]

uh so I need to pay later I think

[sweet delta]

Tldr gems are the paid currency

[rain bobcat]

consider the free gems as the game giving you free dock space

[viscid swift]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[rain bobcat]

oh yeah how much did lunar ny give again

like 400?

[austere flower]

So if i want skins or l2d I need to pay. It's not problem but it's expensive.

[stark quiver]

you dont need to pay
if you dont plan on minmaxxing gameplay, then fre gems for skins isnt too bad

[austere flower]

Also ty for this

[viscid swift]

famous last words

[rain bobcat]

its 60 dock spaces worth for each l2d so you decide

[austere flower]

I think kinda right

[rapid shard]

It does to a extent. Trying to figure out what make a AA "good" or "bad". Wiki has a good breakdown of how the dmg for fleet AA works dmg and reload wise

[wary saffron]

I just got 50 gems from it

And I want to know how I did that

Bc at one of them I had all three ships so can someone tell me what to do to get those rewards

[viscid swift]

get stars on the ships in those collections

[wary saffron]

Thanks bro

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Collections

[worthy iris]

Say collab soon only have 2 character?

Or i missing something?

[stark quiver]

Yes only 2

[worthy iris]

Thank you

[grand solar]

Exactly how good a Cruiser is New Orleans?

Though I'm guessing by her tier three ranking on website I use she's pretty much crap... https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca

[dark hazel]

She's bad, /tierlist in bot spam for the recommended tier lists
that one is not the best, hard to read and not the quickest to update

[grand solar]

I find it fairly easy to read honestly. Though yes it does take a rather inordinate amount of time these days to update. It used to be better but oh well. Though you all did confirm she's crap...sadness...

[void walrus]

The tierlist is for high level content, I'm pretty sure
A waifu fleet is bad, but it can still clear W12-4

Pretty much any fleet can succeed at the lower levels

[grand solar]

On a different note, I'm curious about the higher gun calibers for some of the CAs. Like 310, 305 and 283mm on Guam as an example?

[void walrus]

Yeah, guam is a Large Crusier

It's a subclass of CA with bigger guns

[grand solar]

And she's a front liner with arcfiring weapons?

[void walrus]

Yeah

[grand solar]

I'm...not exactly sure the meta on that one?

[verbal thistle]

Is Essex worth bringing to 125? Post retro

[grand solar]

Wait Essex got a retrofit? But not Enty?

[void walrus]

Yeah

[grand solar]

Stll kind of sad they won't give us Texas!

[verbal thistle]

Is that 'Yeah' to Essex getting a retro, or bringing to 125..

[grand solar]

I think it's the retrofit. People would have gushed if it was worth it or not.

[verbal thistle]

So sounds like she's not worth bringing to 125? Fair

[grand solar]

I would still love to see Enty get a Retrofit. She's long since badly needed it.

[knotty dome]

are there any consistent fleets for repulse meta?

[sweet delta]

I'd wager Soyuz nakhimov or Lion + 5 works

[rain bobcat]

if you want to sure if you dont want to dont

for the most part having her 125 or not wont really make or break your fleet

[rain bobcat]

no?

enty is isnt losing much to UR essex

[soft raft]

What
She's still one of the strongest CVs period
Her theoretical damage ceiling can only go up as newer and newer gear comes out

[rain bobcat]

to say she badly needs it is quite an overstatement

she is simply dependent on broken gear

like even an augment giving her 100% proc chance would prob make her better than essex outside of needing 2 fighters

[grand solar]

What Aya said is about what I have been suspecting. She's only keeping pace because of gear. She does sadly need a retrofit, but they refuse to give her one for some unknown reasons. I mean they gave Unicorn one and look what that did for her....

[atomic abyss]

"So what" is my response honestly

You can make that argument about every other SR DPS carrier too

And unlike every other SR carrier, enterprise can only keep up with URs because of gear

None of the other SR carriers can do that to even a remotely similar extent

Unicorn comparison is also rather disingenuous

Perseus was overwhelmingly ahead of all the healers, to the extent she's only slightly behind a unicorn retro now
Shouhou retro dealt more damage than base uni, and ryuuhou was seen as being more useful by focusing on healing stuff at lower HP

The only healer worse at the time was like Arizona

[vapid valve]

Who is better with their retrofit Essex or unicorn

[atomic abyss]

Given they do completely different things

Unicorn is infinitely higher priority though

Because she is the best healer

[silent hearth]

@viscid swift hey i found a good video that goes over BB guns, the guy simplifies BB damage, modifiers and all the stats. im sure youve probably seen it, but it definetly made things easier for me to understand. https://youtu.be/La28cizb2Bc?si=9ZTSIubgRPWGhWXq

[atomic abyss]

Essex is just one of many DPS carriers

[viscid swift]

I know, though I've never been particularly impressed with Jimmy's guides hence why none of us reccomend them

[silent hearth]

whys that? does he have bad information? i thought the way he broke down the information and stats was fantastic, but maybe its just perspective and the way differnt people take in information.

I felt like i finally have a good grasp on damage, scaling and the other stats now that i didnt quite understand even after reading the wiki

[atomic abyss]

I mean here's the thing

[viscid swift]

Considering it took him what half an hour to get which guns are good for what armor types

[atomic abyss]

Do you need to understand those other modifiers though?

[viscid swift]

And that can be con condensed into a relatively small graph

[atomic abyss]

The most important modifier is absolute the ammo modifier

[silent hearth]

im the type of person that likes to min-max. so for me, yes.

[atomic abyss]

BB guns aren't that complicated frankly

I can understand a video for carriers because well, there's so many things for carriers

[silent hearth]

but it also makes it clear that while the MK6 is not the best for heavy/medium, it still will work VERY well until i can get a good AP weapon, that was the clarification i was seeking and i understand it now. i also know what direction i need to develope in now. the miniguide says 'do this' and thats good, but not knowing why was where i was erring.

[atomic abyss]

Well... Because it's a mini guide

[viscid swift]

I mean I said just use the Mk6 earlier sigh

[atomic abyss]

The whole point of it is because people don't want to see the explanation

[silent hearth]

yup, im going to go through each of his guides, but with that video i now understand what the wiki is showing a bit better.

[atomic abyss]

The wiki is not a guide

The wiki is just presenting data

Which can be extremely misleading if used incorrectly

[viscid swift]

and as I said, the guide is designed in such a way that the last option for everything is still solid while being easily obtainable

[silent hearth]

look guys, im not argueing. im simply saying that if i had the video last night i could have understood a lot more and not have had such a hard time.

i really appreciate everything that has been told. i appreciate your guys' information. i could live without the condescending from Celerio though just because im not understanding something.

[viscid swift]

I apologize too

it was us not understanding what needed to be explained

[silent hearth]

i think we were all getting a little heated under the collar, so i apologize as well.

[viscid swift]

frankly had I not been in such tired, state I would have done a better job

[silent hearth]

hey its ok, you guys are here helping out, if you get frustrated i completely understand. i know how it is to have to repeat yourself 1000 times with the same information. so again, thank you and thank everyone who has been helping me out over the last 2-3 weeks. im still very new, despite my progress and im learning. up to just recently ive been fumbling through and been following the guides but im getting to the point where i want to know why X does Y so that i can figure out what is best for my current situation.

[viscid swift]

I will say this to answer your question last night

[silent hearth]

i play this game probably 12+ hours a day so im not your average player 😛

[viscid swift]

I would suggest looking into where exactly the best gear is obtained

to help you decide what to persue first and such

because there's around 4-6 different methods looking at all the best gear

[silent hearth]

yup! i didnt realize until it was pointed out that the macklenburg was a BP8, so i can get both the MK7 and the other at the same time.

[viscid swift]

some overlap for materials and resources, others don't

and there's other factors to consider such as for PR what ships are in the season

[silent hearth]

yeah but until the next event i have what ships i have XD, aside from the ones i can get from the shops and whatnot. right now i think i have a decently solid group of ships so im just focusing on min-maxing them with what i have available.

speaking of which, i was told i shouldnt focus on a BB ship until its MLB (such as NJ who is only 5* atm), is that true for most, or just UR or just BB?

[viscid swift]

uhh

for URs you should wait until you can mlb a ship in one go

and 9.5/10 times you shouldn't use a non MLB ship

[silent hearth]

yeah i had been kinda just feeding her bulins because i didnt know that i should wait to MLB a ship, she was my second UR (aside from i404)

[soft raft]

It's either MLB or bust
especially when we are in a cycle of 4 new Gacha URs per year with UR reruns and the possibility for double UR events stacked on top

[viscid swift]

make that 7 at the current rate

[silent hearth]

ah ok, thats good to know. most of my mainline are MLB, but my i404 and NJ are 5/6 and ive been using them.

[late flame]

if its just levelling / farming then i doubt that matters too much

[viscid swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376280341337346220/1376291966332964985/mlb1_day.png?ex=68e81747&is=68e6c5c7&hm=2721396508d3f4f9d3c9d5d0436edff04d39f5494478bbf00e9996dce6d49f18&

[silent hearth]

right now its mostly just farming, but ive been using NJ in pvp and in OPSI

[viscid swift]

also snagged this comparrison today

[silent hearth]

so is this true for PR and DR ships too? since their limits are based off development lvl

[viscid swift]

yes

[late flame]

pvp is kinda whatever unless you are aiming for aot in which case MLB+Lv125 +using pvp meta matters lol
Opsi if mob fleet also kinda whatever, its only on boss fleets then you wanna optimise

[silent hearth]

yeah the only 2 spots im having a hard time with ATM are META and some of the boss sirens (such as the healing one) but i got the arbiter down without having to heal this month and that was a week ago, ive gained significant levels on some of the ships i used at that time.

when you use a gear piece to upgrade in the gear lab, do the invested plates get returned in full or is it a partial refund?

[late flame]

iirc full refund on plates and partial for coins

[viscid swift]

25% on coins

[silent hearth]

ah ok, thats good to know. i realize now how much of a mistake i made with this, and why you guys were so upset about it XD

is it the same for disassemble?

[late flame]

heh

[sweet delta]

Disassemble loses plates

[silent hearth]

lol this was my first +13, i thought it was my best option for my BBs, with what i had avaible. i know its good for certain barrage ships but shrug

[sweet delta]

I think it's 25% refund. You can see it by disassembling without disassembling, there's a confirmation screen that shows what you get

[silent hearth]

ouch, yeah so defently not going to disassemble, but it does sound like upgrading a weapon level on a weapon that will eventually get upgraded in the lab is worth it then

[short wagon]

is kazagumo still good and is it better than retofit laffey

[ivory pawn]

If there's any carriers in your fleet, quite easily yes.

[short wagon]

:D

[hidden basin]

is the collab danmachi like a brs right all char is free?

[ivory pawn]

Aye, it is.

[silent hearth]

Essex's retro item is a limited event item yes?

[short wagon]

idk i took a hiatus and i somehow have it so

[ivory pawn]

Aye, it is.

[silent hearth]

👍 ty

is she decent pre-retro?

[short wagon]

twin 113 or twin 40 bofors on kazagumo

[silent hearth]

im looking at either Essex (pre-retro since i dont have the item) or Saratoga to start building up. im leaning towards Saratoga

[ivory pawn]

Twin 113, STAAG is better used on main fleet typically.

[ivory pawn]

Saratoga, easily.

[silent hearth]

gotcha ty again 👍

[short wagon]

hazemeyer twin 40

[ivory pawn]

Same thing but slightly worse.

[floral latch]

Seems like I wont getting the proto cores anytime soon

Since I need leftover blueprints from shipyard ships I have maxed out. But I have none yet

[viscid swift]

you can also convert combat data packs

[stark quiver]

Google

[viscid swift]

and CN datamine is up

[short wagon]

who to mlb next

[viscid swift]

how many bullins you got, those all your URs?

[short wagon]

3 bulins

getting a 4th soon

[rustic adder]

Amagi or alsace maybe?

[viscid swift]

Alsace pretty easily

[late flame]

Alsace yeah

[short wagon]

who to mlb next

i made thread

i sent more ss there

[viscid swift]

Danmachi Collab CN Datamine thread

[soft raft]

Why are you using Google AI for help bruh 💀

this channel is literally right here for a reason

[rustic adder]

Is there any way to get rid of the new island mode red notif?

[soft raft]

If you mean in the idle screen? dunno
I deleted all of the assets for it so idk if it still shows up there if you do that

[short wagon]

its in the shop i think there 1 new item
at least thats ho i got rid of mine

[eternal moth]

So... Hestia looks completely useless.

I mean, expected it when they said she was a repair ship, but still.

[stark quiver]

doa bruh
still getting her skin tho

[soft raft]

how joever is it for her lol

[eternal moth]

4 100% eff. AA guns, only 150 AA

[viscid swift]

I don't wanna be that guy but that's average for a repair ship

[soft raft]

Akashi has 164
Vestal has 155
and Vestal M has 154

[flint frigate]

How do i unlock the big red orb in operation siren?

[eternal moth]

Go through all the chapters.

[soft raft]

The middle portion?
Clear OpSi story and do the practice arbiter fights

[flint frigate]

What's an arbiter fight

[eternal moth]

Keep doing OpSi and you'll find out.

[flint frigate]

Okiee thx💕

[soft raft]

the middle big swirly is what's called the Arbiter fight
which is essentially a boss fight that rotates monthly

and the game has you fight weaker versions of the three Arbiters as practice before you can actually go fight the real thing

[rustic adder]

I deleted the assets too, so if its a shop item i hope i dont need to redl and get the item then delete again

[floral latch]

Just curious if I can get something from searching by my own.

And also it's summarized by the ai. But I won't do that again

[eternal moth]

AI is almost always one of the worst places to get accurate info

[stark quiver]

sources include kimocheese

[floral latch]

@wind hazel hey uhh.. Did the thread got deleted automatically? I'm forgot to download the screenshot on blueprints I should grab.

Nvm, found it

Man.. Maint is today? Damn.. Just when I'm start having fun in AL after the help from lastnight

[wind hazel]

[edgy elk]

Anyone know what triggers girls in private quarters to do their own thing? Every once in awhile, Sirius would just move around with me interacting.

[violet grail]

These maintenances happen fairly regularly, like once every 2 weeks on average I've been told. Although during the time I've played it's been more like once every week. So genuinely have to get used to it.

At least theres always oil compensation at the end which allows you to store oil in mail storage thus being able to stock up more than your soft cap.

[loud scarab]

the next event is a collab like the black rock shooter one?

[floral latch]

Just afraid it will be like.. Last week I think? Where we get more than 8 hours

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

Doubtful

[violet grail]

Should be 6. Also people usually know in advance if its extended based on other servers.

[viscid swift]

Nothing complicated is being added this patch

[stark quiver]

no gem packs for this collab?

[loud scarab]

do we also know what's the event after the hestia collab or is it 🔮 ?

[sweet delta]

a lot of island "fixes" though

[wind hazel]

fool's scale

[loud scarab]

oh it's a rerun, well it's obvious that it would be a rerun now that i think about it

[floral latch]

Well... Turns out I have more than enough resources for retrofit Unicorn

Now I'm just running out of money, one more step to the retrofit completion.

And jesus Christ her stats increased superbly

That's one less ship to worried about. Now comes Sandy turn. Gonna farm those hard modes that gives the golden prints of her

[eternal moth]

Do Portland and your starter before Sandy. Sandy's REALLY expensive, and not worth it until later.

Actually, are Portland and starter needed for beginner missions anymore? I forget.

[spark patio]

how to buy hidden auto in opsi?

[eternal moth]

Keep doing quests

If you mean having hidden areas uncovered, you need to have beaten chapter 4 I think and wait for the Exchange Shop to open. It resets on the first of the month.

[spark patio]

Like

[wind hazel]

pretty sure i told you to just get sandy's augment only and delay her retro

can you go back to the thread, reread everything i have told you and dont get things mixed up

[spark patio]

there is a auto search strategy and there are 3 sections in it, there are secured… sth that i forgot its name and hidden. It says i need to buy to unlock hidden

[eternal moth]

I'm pretty sure you have to do exactly what I said to unlock it.

[wind hazel]

buy this, use it in your inventory. strategic research>hidden>auto search all, stop when encounter mysterious merchant, dont display meta coordinates, auto exchange item, turn on Reduce TB guidance in setting

[violet grail]

After your beat chapter 4 of opsi story missions I think, and the month ends, exchange shop will reset with some new items including the one screenshotted above.

[spark patio]

Once only? or i have to buy it every month?

[eternal moth]

You have to buy it every month

[violet grail]

I think its mostly not worth compared to other stuff to buy in there but if you dont have much time to spend on opsi then I guess.

[spark patio]

so my opsi now is just automatic?

[violet grail]

By the way do the exchange shop points carry over to next month?

[wind hazel]

only for hidden

for auto explorable, you have to buy and use this

[violet grail]

5k oil the horror

[spark patio]

and then i just let them doing opsi automatically?

[wind hazel]

same process as this, just strategic search>explorable instead of hidden

[sweet delta]

Hood is dead, completely dead. Alabama from medal shop

[rustic adder]

U still use the AP so need alot since first clear costs double

[eternal moth]

New aug makes her that much better?

[wind hazel]

b-b-b-but Hood is BC

[sweet delta]

downgrading Hood augment tiers

[eternal moth]

Better than Nelson as well?

[stark quiver]

hood augment bug?

[eternal moth]

New Bama aug

[wind hazel]

no, new augment for ala

[floral latch]

Yep you did, sorry. Btw Uni got her retro on now. Damn she looks majestic

[wind hazel]

imagine picking medal shop BB when you can 💳 for Monarch

[stark quiver]

good about time hood kicked the bucket
shitty tech boat

[eternal moth]

But Hood my waifu

[late flame]

lol i still have not levelled hood to date - bought monarch and rolled with it iirc

[spark patio]

Alabama got new aug and making her better than hood?

[floral latch]

Careful, you might trigger unwanted manhunt from the British

[violet grail]

Well nothing can change that no matter how the meta changes.

[spark patio]

Alabama BB or BC btw

[eternal moth]

BB

There are no UR BCs right?

[stark quiver]

no

unless you count amagi cv

[late flame]

would be funny if devs decided Amagi (BC) gets retrofit

[floral latch]

Did Yostar actually did research and the ships in shipyards are all blueprints only irl? Since it still a little bothering me knowing that Nakhimov is a Carrier and not well.. The Nakhimov we knew irl.

[spark patio]

w is the diff between BC and BB?

[floral latch]

Also, what's a BBV?

[viscid swift]

Pr ships are paper designs from world of warships

[viscid swift]

Aviation battleshio

A battleship with a tumor flight deck strapped to it

[stark quiver]

bb and bc name
and maybe armament and whatnot

[eternal moth]

What the country that made them called them. Technically BCs should have thinner armor and be faster, but that doesn't always matter

[viscid swift]

Nah

[verbal plinth]

ww1 thing mostly think hood was the last official bc i think dont quote me

[viscid swift]

Dunkerque was a battlecruiser

And she was built in the 30s

Vanguard is armored battlecruiser

[spark patio]

bruh, but in game main fleet ships don’t even move

[stark quiver]

yea

[late flame]

lol game mechanics

[stark quiver]

youre correct, bcs in game are generally ass

[eternal moth]

According to Wiki (lol), the current Pyotr Velikiy is considered a battlecruiser.

[viscid swift]

The Kongos are "fast battleships" when they have worse armor than a lot or ww1 Battlecruisers

Lamo

That's a completely different thing

People just call the Kirovs Battlecruisers because they have no idea what to call them

[verbal plinth]

you only really "need" bc is on some hard events and hard modes

[floral latch]

As I have foreseen, my guts feeling is right.

And also BattleCarrier... Like Amagi?

[sweet delta]

i need gameplay help with myoukou's augment

[viscid swift]

No like Kearsarge and the Ise and Hyuuga retrofits

[spark patio]

bruh, most of my BBs are BC lol

[violet grail]

Pretty amazing how this game attracts people who are into all this historical knowledge about warships.

[spark patio]

When will Alabama aug release? after mt?

[verbal plinth]

yes

[wind hazel]

just because it's better than hood doesn't mean you have to get it

[spark patio]

she just slightly better than hood? then i not going to get her

[viscid swift]

Wait for suchi's video in a few days

Either way both will still just be transitional picks

[spark patio]

[wind hazel]

you have zenker nelson hood at lv120, you really dont need alabama

[eternal moth]

Anyone have an idea how Ryu Lion is going to be? She looks more interesting than Hestia

T1/T2 or around there maybe?

[spark patio]

quick question, I have a +10 gear and i upgrade it to a new gear will +10 stay or it just vanish?

[wind hazel]

through gear lab? 25% coin refund, 100% plate refund, new gear +0

[vale spindle]

datamine today right

[sweet delta]

[vale spindle]

[sweet delta]

not if datamine team is dead

[wind hazel]

datamine is now

[vale spindle]

wow

[glossy granite]

Im so confused will danmachi be a summon banner or just event 😭

[late flame]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1425679408223748247

[wind hazel]

login event

[glossy granite]

And you buy the skins with gems?

[stark quiver]

well yes

[wind hazel]

yes duh

[late flame]

it is free ship event similar to black rock shooter. yes skins are paid purchases

[glossy granite]

Imma kiss that 12 gauge shotgun 🙏 😭

[spark patio]

which one will be free? the AR or the rest one

[late flame]

no free skin if that is what you are asking

[spark patio]

i mean the ship

[wind hazel]

both ships are free.
both skins are paid

[stark quiver]

why would collabs have free skins lol

[wind hazel]

you know, you should start reading patch notes...

[glossy granite]

I need that ryu skin man, but no money

[stone sluice]

[glossy granite]

You cant stop a coper from coping

[spark patio]

I just too lazy

[stone sluice]

Nothing interesting other than Alabama augment?

[late flame]

heh

[spark patio]

ARs are just collection?

[viscid swift]

I use them a lot

[spark patio]

where can i use those?

[wind hazel]

for most players, yes just collection

[stark quiver]

when you have 500 ships leveled to 120 and have run out of backline ships to raise

[sick kettle]

what kind of aa guns should be used for low aa efficiency ships?

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#vanguard-weapons-vanguard-aa

[jaunty pecan]

Damn the twin 40mm regular bofors falls off that hard?

[rain bobcat]

range

[whole crypt]

do we has ⛏️

[wind hazel]

#1425679408223748247

[whole crypt]

it's MTLd I'll go check bili instead I guess

think I can power level Hestia in ch13 with solo main fleet AA build?

[wind hazel]

apologize to thorin

[inland shoal]

Smh

What did I even go through the effort of cross checking with in game data for

[wind hazel]

for me i read them, every single period and number

so myoukou's aug is bugged?

[inland shoal]

Yeah, but it's just the chance not increasing with skill lvl

It's due to a dumb mistake the devs made when defining the skill and not the first time they've made it either

[wind hazel]

bug lane 🐛

[whole crypt]

smol indie dev pls understand

[forest palm]

small indie devs please understand

[wind hazel]

ok bots

[whole crypt]

also bogged down by rubbish island

[inland shoal]

I don't think they ever fixed any past occurences, so I'd keep my hopes low

[whole crypt]

sometimes I wonder why I ask for ⛏️ when the answer is "meh but I'll level them anyway"

[forest palm]

Alabama looks fun at least with UE

for an SSR anyway

[whole crypt]

waiting for numbers to see where it places her in gold BBs

[forest palm]

so as far as I can gather October is more or less a dead month for AL, unless they have some end of month silliness

[whole crypt]

tempesta or whatever it will be still waiting on that one

nothing for meta is par for the course anyway

[forest palm]

let's see a week for this Danmachi thing, another week for Fool's Scale rerun, so it would have to be something in the end of the month

[eternal basalt]

Event is ALWAYS end of the month

[slow fox]

Myoukou: 80.54 -> 78.25
RYuu: 109.95

[forest palm]

not true in the slightest lmao

shit the last 2 events started middle of the month

[sweet delta]

are you sure it's that high 109.95 not like 103 104

[sweet delta]

What's Myoukou eHP with level 1 skill, so 50% chance?

[slow fox]

I'll consider Myoukou assuming the draw fire skill is unchanged from her og, but still maxxed

so 40%

[sweet delta]

but she gets heal and damage reduction with augment

[slow fox]

Yes. I'll consider those but leave the draw fire uptime the same

[sweet delta]

pre augment is 40% chance.
post augment is 50% chance plus a 50% chance preload

[eternal basalt]

EN anni and JP anni dates

[vale spindle]

Datamine 10/9 (DanMachi V Collaboration) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRAFG0hnNYbg7gAZ28umjB4UxiqFGGCOUWKGw9bgstu4g9_lsHgCX-Pc8KItGcJsHGHBJAWx0yDtRy3/pubhtml

@inland shoal pin plz

[crimson glacier]

whats up gamers

its me ya boi and im here to hear some very accurate meta facts about the new ships

[vale spindle]

just use URs

[crimson glacier]

❗

W H A T

[eternal basalt]

Hestia repair ship, meta

[crimson glacier]

im expecting her to make unicorn look like shouhou

[atomic abyss]

Meta for frontline fleet tech farming surely

[hoary relic]

[atomic abyss]

I mean ngl

[crimson glacier]

idk man, akashi has been doing work for me

[atomic abyss]

She is actually better than the other ARs

Given she actually heals

[crimson glacier]

so does my toolboxx akashi

[wind hazel]

but you can combine them

[crimson glacier]

if you arent using 3 ARs then you arent a true gamer

[hoary relic]

still raff good for mobbing

for w14 and 15 i mean

[atomic abyss]

Obviously

ARs are meme picks mostly

Im only bringing it up because some people use ARs here for W12 frontline fleet tech farming

[slow fox]

Myoukou (if same uptime): 99.53
Myoukou: 93.34

(added healing)

[atomic abyss]

No way she's actually almost as tanky as port now

Mebot here's a question

What would you do if port got an aug

[slow fox]

Probably has to be Port (augment)

Separate entry

[atomic abyss]

Would you rescale everything to the augment port?

Or just leave it as port

[slow fox]

Leave it as port.

We justify the usage of Portland because she's the easily accessible tanky ship.

The "augment" part of her is probably not as accessible, and/or many people won't even bother during their progression.

[atomic abyss]

To be clear to everyone, this is just in theory

[sweet delta]

but what if her augment gives her +20% eHP and +20% eDPS, then surely it would be part of new player progression

[atomic abyss]

I have to say

I do like how they made canonically accurate ryu

[slow fox]

Probably still keep the scale at 100% Portland Nonaug!?

Sort of similar logic to why the AAsheet has SanDiego nonaug? idk much

[crimson glacier]

so looking at the mine it looks like hestia is one of the biggest leaps in powercreep in the games history when it comes to AR dps

[vale spindle]

The barrage and skill names are references to danmachi stuff but the only one i could actually translate was hestia skill 2

[atomic abyss]

I would need to compare with the OG CN text to be sure

But yeah the names are not very accurate

[vale spindle]

for that one since it was a major scene in s5 google search of the cn name gave me a bilibili clip of the scene

[boreal wagon]

why does datamine sheet say ar skill doesnt stack with similar effects when it does stack with cranes

it also doesnt heal all it heals the least hp like a crane would
(yes i know the cn description says otherwise bc it uses the description of cranes which has been wrong for ages)

[atomic abyss]

Ryuu S2 should be Justice Inheritance I think

[wind hazel]

no luminous wind, unplayable

[atomic abyss]

It's there actually

The barrage mentioned in S2 should be luminous wind

[muted wind]

S2's skill name itself on JP is also luminous wind, so... probably the intent

[wind hazel]

i will play

[late flame]

fast video is fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRbut80Mem0

[whole crypt]

I have questions for stig

[cobalt rapids]

does this answer ur question

[muted wind]

well, both rows say "single enemy", i think the top was meant to be "multiple enemies"

[wind hazel]

💀

[cobalt rapids]

no its the gear setups on the right

[muted wind]

... could've aligned them to the table at least in that case

[cobalt rapids]

theres 4 dps rows and 4 setups but i digress

[muted wind]

yeah, but it's still weird to connect if you're not used to displaying it like that

[wind hazel]

fixed that for you

now the uneven alignment of 134 is triggering me

i really like reading your notes suchi

[muted wind]

thank you

does youtube default to adding that or is that suchi's fault? lol

[cobalt rapids]

its the youtuber's fault

but then again u can just

[wind hazel]

ngl i didnt notice that 😂

[gilded carbon]

So, both new Ships are going to be decent from what it says here?

[muted wind]

ryu, yes. hestia... well, she is a repair ship

[rain bobcat]

what's a historyotaku

[wind hazel]

cheeky

[cobalt rapids]

someone who uses hestia in ch12

[left cedar]

who it will call W12 hard ??

also nowadays either W13 can be called hard ... W14 start the pain, but already considerable easier

[woven star]

For leveling shti ships can be hard especially when ignoring good gears on them

Maybe Hestia will be solution for me if she has really good heal in opposite of Klaudia with no planes

[late flame]

-# imagine repair ship meta

-# maybe try putting hestia in same fleet with vestal and vestal meta

[gilded carbon]

Fair. Collection then

[woven star]

Do we have vanguard who can convert heal to damage? just for meme triple heal backline fleet

[late flame]

recruitable siren? lol

[woven star]

Not sure otherwise she kill faster backline rather than enemy

[south sequoia]

no

[plucky sky]

Only 2 characters for collab?

[floral latch]

Shikikans, Has the servers finished maintenance?

[tropic tusk]

No and no gifs thx

[forest palm]

#game-news will tell you

[floral latch]

Unsending, and thanks

[plain saffron]

is it a 6 or 8

[rain bobcat]

6

[gilded carbon]

#game-news

[floral latch]

10 more minutes...

[inland shoal]

Damn, stealing my job

[severe glade]

in the beginner lineup who can i replace with hestia and ryu? is it portland swap to ryu and unicorn for hestia?

[robust onyx]

No

[whole crypt]

repair ships are shitty healers just don't use Hestia. At all.

[ivory pawn]

In the beginner lineup, you put Hestia on the bench. Ryu maybe can be used if you really really wanted to, but eh.

[tulip tinsel]

dont ever use repair ships

[whole crypt]

Ryu is an ok CL but I wouldn't spend gold bulins on her for a newcomer

[severe glade]

oh thats kinda sad then really wanted to use both if possible

[whole crypt]

if anything Alabama with aug now makes a better use for gold bulins, if BB medal pool drops by

[cobalt rapids]

i would raise ryu over portland as a newcomer

[whole crypt]

would you raise her over another accessible SR if bulingated

[cobalt rapids]

i mean high gold cl dps ( below ply ) and port tankiness and she only needs the purplep pew pew gun to perform near max

[wind hazel]

well tbf you kinda need portland to grind for ryu...

definitely worth consider for 2nd fleet down the road

[cobalt rapids]

how do u get ryuu again

[wind hazel]

in sortie cant check lul, but BRS one involve killing X enemies etc

basically need to play the game

[cobalt rapids]

is this one of those things where currency scales with chapter

[wind hazel]

100 enemies

unlock pretty fast this time. BRS was 300 iirc

[cobalt rapids]

ok tbf that doesnt take long then

[wind hazel]

yea but still, i'd put gold bulin onto main fleet first, if there's any

unless they are pepega, vanguard fire faster early game so maybe worth to use as carry

dfq used to say this too about sandy carrying tirpitz uni

[cobalt rapids]

i mean depends what golds but yea

[sharp comet]

wheres the event mission

[inland shoal]

It's just 1 point per defeated enemy

[plain saffron]

the game isn't clear but the mission is kill enemy

[inland shoal]

The mission is to get 100 kills

[plain saffron]

and each day 1 tier of rewards unlocks

[bold peak]

Kill enemy, 100 get you erolf

Is there any fleet for AR in chapter 14 ? I don't know how to use hestia or make her work

[whole crypt]

Hestia can probably survive ch13 considering repair ship AA strats worked before, might even MVP

I don't think you want to send her to 14+

[safe nexus]

it seems i can buy stuff from META and ships from emrit shop now do i buy?

[inland shoal]

ARs are pretty bad, they only have somewhat decent AA, but you're kinda carrying along an almost dead weight

[bold peak]

So basically AA mob on chapter 13?

[atomic abyss]

ARs are not used for any serious content

[whole crypt]

you could try, easier to just tag her along anything else leveling at 12-1/12-4

[atomic abyss]

So far the most plausible use I've seen for ARs is for W12 frontline tech grind, which is a very very very end game thing

In 13 you really want the ACV from carriers

[bold peak]

Gotcha, I'll do 12-1 first and see how it goes

[whole crypt]

most of them aren't any real use, I'd save merits for bulins first probably

[bold peak]

Does level 70 work, or should I sacrifice some bullin

[atomic abyss]

If you're asking to sacrifice bulins for a repair ship

That's a very silly idea

[whole crypt]

if you don't have Eldridge yet but have her retrofit item then maybe get her first

[bold peak]

Yeah nvm

[atomic abyss]

It's very much a "rich man" scheme

[bold peak]

True, I've got her item

[whole crypt]

if you're lacking bulins just don't raise Hestia

[atomic abyss]

Ryuu would be much more worth it

[bold peak]

Well so

[atomic abyss]

Though she may not be that important herself admittedly

[crimson glacier]

does hestia beat NJ in dps

[atomic abyss]

AA DPS maybe

[bold peak]

I've got 12 golden bullin, i reckon that's enough for Eldridge

Problem is probably money

[wind hazel]

need 7 to complete retrofit

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[forest palm]

I haven't heard anything good about Hestia even her potential as an AA Boat lol

[bold peak]

And limit break so +4

[wind hazel]

no it's 4 mlb+3retro

[bold peak]

Barely enough, yeah nvm

[safe nexus]

for core month do i buy any ships beside independence?

[bold peak]

Ah okay

[bold peak]

Only independence as far as I know

[wind hazel]

as priority no, the rest for collection when you have excess core data

[whole crypt]

which is par for an AR, even if she's the best AR

[bold peak]

Yeah i still need 3 for best queen essex

So not enough range of golden bullin just in case

Welph level 70 hernia

[atomic abyss]

Hestia gives hernias now?

[bold peak]

Btw is using the ticket for double currency works ?

[bold peak]

Just what I call her since she has oversized rear, prone to hernia

[primal yew]

Hey guys returnee-veteran here who should I get first for PR7-8?

[wind hazel]

mashiro

[bold peak]

Actually same, I'm finishing agir tho at the moment

Mashiro is what sakura?

[wind hazel]

nvm different guy

[primal yew]

I mean this Mashiro knows FF7 too I fw that pfp that's sick

[bold peak]

Oh

There are like 4 mashiros

Should all duel and let one true mashiro live

[safe nexus]

ty

[cobalt rapids]

dw i was also fooled

[wind hazel]

where did mashiguu go lol

[cobalt rapids]

go for season 8

[cobalt rapids]

quit

[wind hazel]

😭

[rapid shard]

Whats the verdict on Bama now with new aug?

[wind hazel]

it killed hood

[rapid shard]

R.I.P. Hood

Least now bama is decent lol

[jolly condor]

is ryu worth building at all

[whole crypt]

she's fairly decent but depends on your options

[swift path]

how good is KMS albion?

also ban the dude aboov

[whole crypt]

<@&460646206851252224>

[patent fiber]

/kick 486824501901000704 hacked account

[odd root]

chaoscider#0 got kicked. Reason: hacked account

[wind hazel]

pretty good

[whole crypt]

KMS doesn't have Albion but I heard the Royal ship is fairly decent

[swift path]

there's also indomitable, katsuragi, and magdeburg, just checking my level 1 golden ships

[dapper token]

is it just my luck or i did 100 ish pulls on heavy pool but no ur a normal thing

[wind hazel]

1. it's normal
2. you wasted your cubes

[dapper token]

I was looking for saradegna ships for tech point

[wind hazel]

3. you made a terrible decision

[dapper token]

dang so where can i get those ships for tech points

[whole crypt]

wait for a sardegna event, ideally

[wind hazel]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleet_technology/#rn

[whole crypt]

not too many regularly available in shops

[onyx flame]

sentenced to war archive for littorio

[bold peak]

So is she better than west Virginia

[swift path]

which is... utilize-able

[whole crypt]

I would say yes

[wind hazel]

indom is useable as w15 support, other 2 tech fodder. by the time you're at w15 indom might be just a fodder as well, depending on your options

[bold peak]

Welph time to scrap the old covid mask girl ig

[red sapphire]

Do you guys like collab ships?

[bold peak]

Is it a good idea to use alabama, and replace constellation in a 3 us bb fleet with new jersey?

[bold peak]

Hernia ? Nah,

[violet grail]

really trying to make the nickname stick :/

[bold peak]

If she can delete all fire debuff, would be OP for meta operations

[bold peak]

One user at a time

[viscid swift]

Just use their normal names

[violet grail]

I take it for the event its just a matter of putting hestia in fleet 2 and running a 1:1 common fleet on chapter 3 to not waste oil?

[whole crypt]

no just use any fleet you don't need her to gain trust

[robust onyx]

No

[maiden pivot]

is ryuu good for fleet building?

[dapper token]

dang wish i knew abt this

[robust onyx]

Decent

[wind hazel]

no just grind normally

[violet grail]

oh so literally just ignore event play as normal lol nice

[muted wind]

i mean, that's a sound strategy if you are somehow short on trust by the end of the event, but you shouldn't need to do that

[whole crypt]

having her in boss fleet and surviving boss fight is higher points but you get points anyway, unless you need to rush grind for whatever reason

[gilded carbon]

What is the best use for Dead Master?

[whole crypt]

PvP cope if you didn't get and level Hiryuu

[gilded carbon]

Her kit seems decent, several barrages and a slow.
Mainly, im asking because im a Black Rock Shooter-fan ^^` and that Event dragged me back. Havent used her yet, though

[whole crypt]

she's not a bad carrier but there's just plenty better

[knotty jolt]

I'm actually using her for world 14-4 farming but I don't recommend

I don't think she is w15 capable

[gilded carbon]

She may scythe through other content then. Fine by me

Thanks

And BRS herself? Similar Situation i suppose?

[robust nymph]

you cant put hestia as secretary?

[tulip tinsel]

only when u get her

[muted wind]

need to obtain her permanently, which is part of the trust missions in the event tab, npcs can't be used for some things

[bold peak]

Is Hestia legit best ar tho?

Better than green cat at least

[knotty jolt]

I mean, of the current repair ships she has the luxury of modern game design

[muted wind]

"best AR" isn't exactly a high bar

[knotty jolt]

Akashi is so old

[bold peak]

Well i did meme lim break akashi just last week..

Starting to regret it

[knotty jolt]

Don't worry, you'll at least get a discount on your next purchase for MLB (this is a joke)

[bold peak]

Cat last scam customer

the latest player to limit break her might be me

[wispy cosmos]

akashi wasnt even the best ar before this

[gilded carbon]

Now i need to Check what Tech Akashi gives...

[bold peak]

Probably just Ar buff

[primal yew]

What do I do to make this fully automatic again and not have to press this every area I'm doing strategic search btw

[muted wind]

turn off tb guidance in the settings

[primal yew]

tyyyy

[bold peak]

Who's the best one? The meta ar one?

[muted wind]

might also need to turn off a couple other reminders while you're there

[primal yew]

How's this? I forgot my settings from last year

[muted wind]

turn coordinate analysis reminder off also, not really any point to it

[plush path]

Reduce tb guidance needs to be off if you want to skip repeating dialogue

[wind hazel]

needs to be on

[muted wind]

"reduce" needs to be "on" to get reduced guidance

[primal yew]

okisss ty ty

[plush path]

Omg I’m an idiot

Ignore me. Just woke up

[muted wind]

i get it

[wintry shard]

Anyone know what auxiliaries to put on Hestia?

[wind hazel]

AA radar

[bold peak]

Aa radar and torp defence

[wintry shard]

Thanks, other two slot suggestions?

[tulip tinsel]

nothing scrap her

[muted wind]

maybe eva gear for w14 to avoid shelling too, but what are you doing with her in w14

[primal yew]

Is Meck good to choose for PR8? Just got back and haven't started on PR7 or 8 so idk which one to go for

[tulip tinsel]

yea

[wintry shard]

Torp defense is the purple one?

[bold peak]

Yeah

[wind hazel]

this is peak women body performance

[muted wind]

torp defense does nothing because she can't get hit by enemy torpedoes

[wintry shard]

Triple air radar huh

[red sapphire]

Starting with Cats. Is this a good base?

[wind hazel]

no

[bold peak]

Peak goddess lore acurate

[bold peak]

No rld, avi please

[wind hazel]

also wrong

[bold peak]

Ok I'm dumb, let me disappear

[muted wind]

... no, you do want RLD for CVs, this is an alright starting point but you could do better, may as well use it for now

[red sapphire]

[muted wind]

don't bother optimizing cats until you feel like it's needed, this is just fine

[red sapphire]

Why is that bad? Isn't Avi good for cvs?