gameplay-help

[tropic tusk]

who should i swap with?

[cobalt rapids]

like alot of rainbow carriers are better there

[tropic tusk]

the new one?

[wind hazel]

go eagle, yk2, essex

[cobalt rapids]

if u use cat essex and fritz in ur support fleet then replace shinano with yk2 or with volga

[tropic tusk]

my support fleet is this

[silent hearth]

If i dont have enough camoflages or hydraulics should i just use another kit or like a torpedo buffer? this question is in general but im looking at my ibuki atm.

[wind hazel]

can't craft blue ones?

[cobalt rapids]

toolkit is ok
dmg amp auxes are only when survability is not a concern which is not often the case for a vanguard

[silent hearth]

sorry i meant anti-torpedo bulge and repair kit

[tropic tusk]

wait whos the 3rd one

[wind hazel]

your... soyuz...

[silent hearth]

i also have advanced boilers and filters

[cobalt rapids]

dont use those

[tropic tusk]

oh ok

[cobalt rapids]

bulge is situational but u can slap a toolkit over it in most case

[silent hearth]

so i have a ton of toolkits, but its the eva one that i dont have enough of

[wind hazel]

just open more techbox

[tropic tusk]

wait my yk2 isnt mlb do i have other options lol

[silent hearth]

yeah let me just pull those outa my butt XD

[cobalt rapids]

i mean

the blue thingies are easier to get than purple toolkits

[wind hazel]

if you don't even have extra eva aux, i doubt your ibuki would be even useful

[silent hearth]

shes not part of my main lineup, but i do use her ocasionally to chip at a boss with a extra boss fleet for OPSI

[wind hazel]

you can swap gear in opsi

[cobalt rapids]

u can just move gear around in opsi

[silent hearth]

and im building her up rapidly

[wind hazel]

-# mm armpit

[silent hearth]

i know, the question is what i should put in the extra aux spot lol

[wind hazel]

eva aux. just rob your other ship

[silent hearth]

until i get another eva aux

[wind hazel]

no need to wait until then, just rob

[sweet delta]

worse Eva aux

[cobalt rapids]

just give her the gear when u use her
she doesnt need to be glued to gear when not in use

u realistically only need to be able to gear 2 fleet at most for campaign
opsi each fleet can swap gear around when in use so only need 1 at most

[rain bobcat]

just use fritz or nakhi for the boss and surely you have another 2x fighter CV to replace on the supports?

[silent hearth]

yeah but its a pain in the ass to have to do that each time shrug ive just been sticking a anti-torp on her (and my other units im building up)

[wind hazel]

just do that then

[silent hearth]

i farmed the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit outa D3 of the last event and got a lot of toolkit BPs so i have a ton, and i have another 90 BP to make more lol

[sick kettle]

are fw 190 r6 still worth getting if i already got some bf 109g?

[wind hazel]

no considering la9 exist

[tropic tusk]

the only cv that i can use is just amagi nano essesx hakuhou

[cobalt rapids]

use essex

[sick kettle]

yeah im definitely still have a long way for that (14/50)

[cobalt rapids]

or volga
or volga and essex

[wind hazel]

still not worth crafting

[tropic tusk]

yea im using essesx whos the 3rd one if i dont have yk2 mlb

ill try volga then

[cobalt rapids]

amagi/volga/essex pick 2

[wind hazel]

i pick 2 sex

[silent hearth]

should i use my stock of bulin to get i404 to BLM or should i just do New Jersey?

[cobalt rapids]

only mlb NJ with dupes
do u have any other URs ?

[tropic tusk]

then bb will be russian cat?

[wind hazel]

soyuz isn't a cat...

[rain bobcat]

soyuz isn't even a cat

[tropic tusk]

oh wait right i got mix up with the other one

[silent hearth]

Just Shinano and Hakuhou, but hakuhou is MLB already, shinano is mostly unused and not developed.

[tropic tusk]

so soyuz and 2 of the 3 CV?

[cobalt rapids]

if u have lion use lion over soyuz

[hollow gust]

Double Type95 with oxy is most braindead setup?

[tropic tusk]

oh ok

[rain bobcat]

iirc type 95 is only better if ur mobbing or the boss is allergic to moving

[tropic tusk]

do i keep these same buid for them?

[cobalt rapids]

bro has kunais on subs crafted 💀

[pale plinth]

Are there any war archive maps worth farming outside of the prints and ships?

Or are they just inferior to chapter 12

[cobalt rapids]

essex runs 2x flap and wyvern /breguet or smth just make sure they are staggered

[hollow gust]

There was a specific fight where kunais were actually better

[cobalt rapids]

also nice 121 and stranger sub

[tropic tusk]

and bow right?

[hollow gust]

But yeah i404 is running my leftover sub stuff till I max her out

[rain vine]

outside of ironblood tech and maybe cosmic kicks, war archives arent worth farming
chapter 12 is better for exp and gold

[hollow gust]

Never learned how to gear subs correctly , just wanna make sure the type 95s were best before I max them

[pale plinth]

Just finished farming the Kicks, good to know, back to ch12 then

[cobalt rapids]

the most brainded setup is the 3rd one

[carmine heath]

Whats the new meta sub comp?

[rain vine]

i404, flasher, archerfish

[hollow gust]

Suchi halp me

[muted wind]

what's the exact RLD requirement for the 2nd one?

[carmine heath]

Flasher is event right?

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[wind hazel]

maybe swap sandy with ply, give staag bb, if you have flapjack use flapjack. i'd go double fighter essex

[hollow gust]

For type 95 comp I just max it out and forget about sub gearing then eh?

Or is there rld prereq

[rain vine]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/SubReload

[wind hazel]

not updating youtube video with latest info, unsubbed unfollowed

[silent hearth]

Is it worth going through and getting a copy of each of the commons upto MLB for tech?

i think MLB for a common is level 30 right?

[wind hazel]

no still lv70

[cobalt rapids]

u will inevitably get common dupes from farming

[rapid shard]

MLB is still 70

[wind hazel]

if you got the dockspace for them, sure go ahead

[uneven knot]

is it possible to put my extra oil in the bank?

[cobalt rapids]

you cannot store any oil in mail storage except mail oil

[uneven knot]

flark

[sweet delta]

omw to debunk this whole page (but tbf it's close enough for type 95 kai)

[tropic tusk]

so like this?

[ruby bay]

So I am guessing it's really bad to MLB new jersey or permanent URs like Ulrich, Only do, if you get dupes and not use bullins?

[rapid shard]

Yes only use dupes to MLB them

[grizzled mortar]

it seems like the island planner farm is way better to just manually manage? it looks like you get like one crop per seed per cycle from a character vs 9+ from doing it yourself...

[muted wind]

yeah. also #1422463299877867540

[ruby bay]

May I know why it's bad to use your UR bullins?
What should i save it for? New upcoming UR events?

[muted wind]

yeah, the permanent URs are all outclassed at this point, so you should save bulins for new URs instead

[rapid shard]

Newer URs completly outclass the old perm ones and UR bulins are timegated basically and youll only get enough to MLB a new UR by the time they come around

[muted wind]

UR bulins are also rare (unless you're a long-time player), so you won't get enough to just limit break every ship you happen to get

[grizzled mortar]

I started during rose on a high tower, but only got one traf - should I LB her or wait for unzen rerun?

[ruby bay]

Thank you for the tips I'll keep that in mind and save them (me MLBed shinano )

[muted wind]

maximum UR bulin income per year is like... 38 or so? and we get a minimum of 6 new URs and 4-6 URs from reruns in the same time, so... good luck managing that

[rapid shard]

Honestly thats the best one out of current perms so not great but best choice

[muted wind]

traf is absolutely worth limit breaking if you want a support, but you may as well wait for unzen if you want a burst damage vanguard instead

[hoary relic]

excluding reruns, our UR bulin income per year is 30 i suppose with 2.5 per month

[grizzled mortar]

she's already 105 and fully skilled bc I did all that before knowing how important LBs were lol

[muted wind]

i am counting the bulins from UR event pt milestones, including reruns, which adds ~8

[ruby bay]

Are they having UR reruns like unzen or Alsace?

[rapid shard]

Yes Unzen will be soonish

[hoary relic]

we always get a bulin for reruns

[muted wind]

yeah, unzen should be soon, alsace is about half a year away

[grizzled mortar]

and yorkII is probably a year or so?

[hoary relic]

under a year i suppose

[muted wind]

yorkII already reran, she'll go into perma in... a couple months i think?

[grizzled mortar]

awww

[hoary relic]

more like half a year till she is added to perm pool

[grizzled mortar]

wait I guess that's better lol

[rapid shard]

Musashi might be coming to perm pool soon from what everyone is saying

[muted wind]

yeah, i think so too, and musashi would actually be worth prioritizing. for now.

[rapid shard]

I am curious tho. with Mush being added will she take prio over Shinano on perm pool pity choices to MLB first?

[hoary relic]

isnt that we use mushy for mobbing instead of bossing?

[muted wind]

i'd say so, BBs are easier to use than CVs anyways

[grizzled mortar]

and here I am, the fool, using bulins to MLB new jersey

[hoary relic]

NJ is fine but she is shadowed by other BBs

[muted wind]

you don't really need URs for any content before w14-15 or hard arbiter anyways, so it's not like it's a real loss

[grizzled mortar]

I mean yeah she's great for my fleet that is five months old lol

[rapid shard]

If you have Oumi from recent event shes on par with NJ lol

[hoary relic]

in case u didnt miss lion and bis2 rerun, i';d advice to get vanny from perm pool from now

she is a good alternative while waiting for alsace

[rigid onyx]

vanny has been the 4th best BB in 3 BB fleets for a while now

[hoary relic]

ye, im using her rn, waiting for alsace rerun lol

[rigid onyx]

not intended to be a knock on her just saying that she's not getting kicked out from that somehow

[muted wind]

... thinking about it, vanguard doesn't really need to be limit broken for her support effect? though her self-damage is not insignificant for a new player so i wouldn't recommend running her 0lb anyway

[grizzled mortar]

wait seriously lol
but yeah I didn't manage to get lion during that event since I was brand new, tho I did get zwei

[hoary relic]

welp true, mostly we use vanny for her BB/BC dmg buff

[robust nymph]

hi any quick rec for 12-2 hard mode?

[cobalt rapids]

12-2hm should be absolutely rolled over

[muted wind]

destroyer boss, so... either CVs with rocket fighters or HE ammo on BBs, beyond that you give me the vibe that you shouldn't struggle

[rapid shard]

Yeah check out Suchigumas vid on youtube breaking it down

[robust nymph]

havent done hard mode in a very long time, i usually am in a rush and always do ch11 hard rq for the daily. is there a lot of AA or not really?

[muted wind]

not really more than normal mode, it's still just chapter 12

[hoary relic]

[grizzled mortar]

I mostly focused on getting enough hakuhous and then stopped pulling on the banner (but hey I didn't need bulins for her)

[muted wind]

... that's one way to offset the bulin cost

[cobalt rapids]

put the rainbows like fdg uni indep - agir sirius eldr
oumi hakuhou shinano - ancho helena sandy

[hoary relic]

so

[grizzled mortar]

I got obscenely lucky and pulled two in one day

[hoary relic]

guam rerun after unzen rerun?

[muted wind]

should be, will also be the first rerun with a shop UR, so... we'll have to see how that's adjusted then

[hoary relic]

mhm

[rigid onyx]

guam laffii event is due early 2026

[hoary relic]

i want to test raff+laff2 lol

no idea is that true laff2+raff = inf shield

[robust nymph]

sirius? is sirius good?

[rigid onyx]

laff2 is already basically immortal in w15 without raff

[cobalt rapids]

i think theres a CL hm req

[robust nymph]

oh that would make sense

[grizzled mortar]

Sirius does have the very nice carrier buff

[robust nymph]

one chance to use her wow i like that

[rigid onyx]

sirius has a minor niche but she's not exactly impressive in campaign

[muted wind]

i don't think the suggested fleets above actually match the requirements, may need to swap out one of the ships in the first one

[grizzled mortar]

used her during Cheshire research and now she's a fixture in the siren CV fleet

[robust nymph]

am i seeing this wrong or is it not possible in fleet1 (or 2) to do that? cause cv and cvl req

[hoary relic]

no implac? the 2nd ss aint loaded for me so i cant see your main fleet ships

[hollow gust]

You only need to fulfill 1 req for both front and backline , don't need to fulfill the rest

[cobalt rapids]

right replace indep then with a cv like enty

[muted wind]

nah, that's not true, if you want full fleets, you have to put a CVL into that slot lol

[hollow gust]

What's wrong with indep

[grizzled mortar]

also argh I am two tech points from the Plymouth tech threshold

[cobalt rapids]

shes not a cv

[robust nymph]

okay thanks, and also yeah i dont have implacable i guess i wasnt playing during the event

[hoary relic]

did u get ancho?

if not go for ancho first, cuz she has coins up while ply aint

[cobalt rapids]

either way it doesnt matter much because u should stomp it

[grizzled mortar]

yeee, and am working kearsarge in the meantime

[wild sinew]

How is mecklen in meta/boss fleet once she dev30

[hoary relic]

why would u go for pr6, that is a niche PR

[robust nymph]

total torp i guess ayanami instead of uuh sandy? and idk its not enough prob

[cobalt rapids]

one of the top bbs

[whole crypt]

meck is expected to be top DPS BB against heavy and probably medium

[grizzled mortar]

idk I have a lot of prints for her and she seems good (plus I already developed Felix)

[muted wind]

may as well swap out helena instead of sandy

[hoary relic]

she is for heavy i suppose, maybe alsace is better than meck for light

[wild sinew]

Oh i see

[robust nymph]

oh it is enough actually, perfect ty

[whole crypt]

no one told me but I guess the new play is to level Yukikaze

[cobalt rapids]

yukikaze for what

[whole crypt]

pvp

was fairly busy througout Sep so never noticed what her aug did for pvp

[cobalt rapids]

imagine not having a 125 oathed ykk

[whole crypt]

going to cog+ her now but not oathing

[cobalt rapids]

50 affinity for the small price of 600 gems

[whole crypt]

already bought that

I'm just a moderate sized maritime mammal

as it turns out I didn't need to level her

[grizzled mortar]

what are the actual chances of getting her off 6-4, I tried frequently but abandoned it for oil capped farming before getting her

[rapid shard]

Think SRs are like 1% drop rate

[muted wind]

that's yuudachi

[cobalt rapids]

yukikaze is in medal not map drop

[grizzled mortar]

oh wait lol

should I go back for her at some point? Is very expensive farming ..

[cobalt rapids]

only for tech

[muted wind]

you can totally farm that with a cheap-ish 2 ship fleet whenever you feel like it

[onyx flame]

1:1 fleet gaming

[grizzled mortar]

oh yeah agir could probably do that ez

[muted wind]

just use your starter and unicorn. or something cheaper than that

[grizzled mortar]

laffey is asleep and I don't want to wake her

[muted wind]

6-4 is level 69, it's not going to kill any of your leveled ships, or use it as an opportunity to grind affinity on ships that don't get mvp. but either way, not high priority.

[grizzled mortar]

lmao, 404's cross fleet got her MVP several times despite being on standby

[crimson glacier]

she has cross fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

she does

xfleet dmg however is not counted for mvp

[crimson glacier]

yeah i was thinking about that too

[rapid shard]

And im curious how she would be getting MVP over any of your mainfleet in the first place

[crimson glacier]

thats easy on low level maps

[grizzled mortar]

wait no they were on auto aaaaaa my oil

I thought I checked!!

[crimson glacier]

its not a big deal if your subs still need exp

[grizzled mortar]

fair lol, I've just been using them on 12-4 and left auto call checked

[spark patio]

dorm 4-6th slot price?

[onyx flame]

on da wiki, it isnt worth past the 3rd slot for an f2p

[muted wind]

imo 4th slot is still nice, but i wouldn't say it's a priority. i'd buy the 2nd floor before it

[silent hearth]

im sorry what?!

im so confused...

[cobalt rapids]

relog

[red sapphire]

Is Essex + Yorktown II good for bossing?

[wind hazel]

campaign yes

[red sapphire]

Oke

[spark patio]

imma whale for the 4-6th bc i want to grind and lvl them

those slots worth it, right?

[wind hazel]

if you're whaling, go all 6

[rapid shard]

with all 6 slots you can have your whole mob fleet your grinding with in dorm letting you run twice as much. plus 6 slots of first floor helps raise next mob fleet up. basically makes a fast grinding rotation

[wicked rock]

Where do i get this item?

[wind hazel]

event, can't get anymore until next year

[wicked rock]

[tropic tusk]

i clear w15-4 safe with volga nothing equip lol

[rapid shard]

Intentional or did you just forget gear?

[tropic tusk]

i just forgot lol

[hoary basin]

Vanguard means front row ?

[rapid shard]

yes

[hoary basin]

Ok

[rapid summit]

Can I use this for putting gear on my ships or another site?

[tropic tusk]

they are just in general so its a yes and no lol

[wind hazel]

use https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

or do you mean using that as reference to gear up your ships? lol

kinda reading it wrong

[rapid summit]

Like a reference or it just tells me what gear is best to put on my ships I’m confused if I should go by efficiency, damage fire rate or something else

[wind hazel]

either that or https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[deep cypress]

It depends on what are you trying to accomplish, really.

[peak fable]

so uh, I got my first PR ship (Roon), sooo... how do I make her useful? her stats seem incredibly low without BPs

I got her to lvl 10 by now, but idk if thats enough

[wind hazel]

coin her until she's dev30, then she'll start being useful

[peak fable]

got it, use money, kk thanks

[fleet berry]

Their vanguard equipment recommendations are great, especially for some non-standard one (eg Shimakaze). I use both ECTL's and elp's for vanguard.

Backliners are a bit meh due to being more context-dependent, so elp's one is better. Also Sam's is good.

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

like more than 3 months on Azur and gear is the most confusing thing I’ve seen in this game

Can I get more than 1 beaver squad tag or do I have to find alternates

[onyx flame]

you can only have 1 beaver

[fleet berry]

Riceist has a very good poverty guide. https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/fleetsandgear/goldgear

[eternal basalt]

Next week "Fool's Scales" rerun...

[deep cypress]

Anything worth getting?

[rapid shard]

Where is confirmation on that? nothing official that ive seen

[verbal plinth]

JP notes

[rapid shard]

17th?

[robust nymph]

im doing 12-2 hard mode which is pretty free in auto while not looking and now i see this, what could have possibly happened to my eldridge?

[rapid shard]

Just unlucky with torps or them just ramming into a ship nonstop lol

[robust nymph]

making contact with an enemy ship does damage?

[verbal plinth]

Ideally you want to kill them before then

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/The_Fool's_Scales

[deep cypress]

Thanks, man. Didn't think about reading the wiki. So helpful.

[rapid shard]

Yes and if they go brain dead and just sit on the ship their HP disappears really fast especially DDs

[wind hazel]

ngl that's a very interesting mob...

[robust nymph]

i still have to figure out if eldridge can be considered a tank or she is squishy

[onyx flame]

2 new unique aug that wasnt announced?

[wind hazel]

she can mob tank no problem

[verbal plinth]

Bama Aug hope it helps her

[robust nymph]

mine?

[wind hazel]

yes

[eternal basalt]

Alabama: Anchor of Good Fortune
Myoko: Public Morals Must Be Maintained!

[rapid shard]

Got a link to the info? Bama aug sounds like a blessing lol

[verbal plinth]

We don't have info yet

[wind hazel]

tempesta gets archived? lol

no mention of musashi yet

[eternal basalt]

With Unzen

[wind hazel]

ngl that's what i think

[rapid shard]

Think they would put her as a shop UR if they combine it?

[wind hazel]

huh?

[tropic tusk]

[wind hazel]

we mean musashi could get archived when unzen event rerun

[rapid shard]

ah gotcha. that will be wild if we could just farm a UR

[wind hazel]

well you can farm UR... ||with cubes||

[severe glade]

hello is there a beginners guide somewhere in this discord ican read?

[rapid shard]

||Would be a absoulte money pit and waste tho||

[rapid shard]

yes /guide

[wind hazel]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[severe glade]

thanks a bunch

[wary saffron]

Hello can someone tell me how to make my aerial Defence stronger

I’m stuck on world three and kaga just spams me with 20 planes per second and I lose

[rapid shard]

What ships are you using?

Also you honestly just need to lvl up some more. Check out the guides right above

[wary saffron]

Alright

[rapid shard]

Yeah read over the starter guide in the link above and that should get you sorted out ]

[wary saffron]

Alright thanks

[fleet berry]

At that point I'll just go down 1-2 stages and overlevel your ships.

[wary saffron]

Doing that rn

[fleet berry]

While there are ways to improve your fleet AA (eg running more CVs with fighters, running AA carry, better AA equipment), it takes a while to do that and overlevelling is the easiest and the most-effective in the early game stages.

[robust onyx]

Portland should be in the left spot since that is the tank slot

[wary saffron]

Isn’t she on the left spot? Or did I mix it up

[robust onyx]

That's the right slot

[wary saffron]

Oh that kind of left side my fault

[wind hazel]

limit break your ships

[agile patrol]

i got roon i got ROON I GOT ROONIGOTORONNOROIGOTOROON I got roon
is she good

[robust onyx]

Decent honestly

[wary saffron]

Jealous

[agile patrol]

for what/as what

[tropic tusk]

cant auto w15-4

[robust onyx]

She needs development 30 fate sim 5 and augment gear to be fully used and she's a tank but pretty expensive for new players

[agile patrol]

wait so so so so so

[agile patrol]

Expensive in terms of what?

[wind hazel]

[agile patrol]

oh that's not an issue for me
i think itd be pointless to build her now tho or spend on her
ive started unlocking agir. she'll be replacing p*rtland later

[tropic tusk]

when is the next event coming? i skip all twitter post

[whole crypt]

hestia NPC with missions for claiming
ryu special mission reward

[whole crypt]

this Thursday, danmachi collab

triple core for a week

[tropic tusk]

how long is it going to last?

[whole crypt]

alabama myoukou aug

[tropic tusk]

nice thx

[whole crypt]

upcoming:
fool's scales rerun
fountain of youth archive

[tropic tusk]

all that + event?

[whole crypt]

upcoming i.e. following week

[agile patrol]

eeehhhhhhhh?
how do i go about farming shipyard xp with this
Bis2 - Unicorn - Bis1?

[tropic tusk]

oh after the event all the reruns

[rapid shard]

Proto or normal core?

[whole crypt]

just use the ships for as long as they're not capped

[tropic tusk]

had mode reward x3

[whole crypt]

the usual 3 x core data on hard

[wind hazel]

either limit break bismarck or get another elite like gnei/scharn and use triple IB

[rapid shard]

Thanks. first time playing during a triple core so wanted to double check

[soft raft]

The upcoming danmachi Collab doesn't require cubes

The other Collab also won't be until November

[vapid valve]

Is it worth doing the rerun for the weapons

[agile patrol]

Do I buy one of gnei/scharn with core data? orrrr?

[wind hazel]

preferably not, get from divergent chessboard. or really just mlb bismarck

[whole crypt]

well if you intend to use tempesta ships you'll want to grind up some of the gear should you not have any, but it's archive so keys

[vapid valve]

For the fools scales

[wind hazel]

yes, very worth it

[whole crypt]

what did fools scales drop again

[rapid shard]

this gun

[whole crypt]

oh yeh guichen gun is worth picking up

not much else from the event though

[rapid shard]

Any of these ships really good or fill a nice niche?

[vapid valve]

I wish we could get more then 1 copy of the gun

[whole crypt]

Painleve is a healer if you're running out of healers to level but not much spectacular overall

[rapid shard]

Klaudia/Perseus level healer?

[hushed sorrel]

In the cruise mission outfit shop, are only a limited number of outfits sold of each kind? (of past cruises outfits)

since bought quite a lot cruise passes its hard to guess if i own something or just missed it in resell

[whole crypt]

all cruises that have been "archived" should be in shop

[hushed sorrel]

so there is no competition for the past ones? it just says -sold out- so i guess i own them

[whole crypt]

if it says sold out it just means you already own it

[hushed sorrel]

oh nice, thank you

it made me feel like i need to hurry and buy the last ones i down own xD since so many were sold out

[agile patrol]

Elbe Bis2 Bismarck it is
im gonna die.

[split gazelle]

you'd be surprised what you can get away with in 12-1 safe

[vapid valve]

how so

[rain bobcat]

with a half decent vg you can get away with lvl 70 blues on 12-1

[eternal moth]

Agreed. I've used some really terrible setups in 12-1 and 12-4, but some of them require support.

[vapid valve]

how chopped are we talking about

[rain bobcat]

ive done runs with only 1 competent ship and crossfleets

[split gazelle]

this one is not even that cursed

[rain bobcat]

5 tech fodders

[vapid valve]

you are telling me that i have been foint this worng the whole time

[rapid shard]

a solid tank and unicorn can carry 4lvl 70ships in 12-4 for mob clearing no issue

[rain bobcat]

I did CV rld with 3 lvl 70 blue backline 2 lvl 80 random frontline and like 1 lvl 110 decemt ship

[eternal moth]

Okie/Cali/Ten level 100 with no AA vanguard. Vanguard might have been ok, but I don't remember at this point

[vapid valve]

damm... wtf i am currently grinding with this setup but im not sure if its that bad let me finish this thing i will show you all how i think its chopped

[rapid shard]

Klaudia was 110 and ark was 105ish when i started and been spamming 12-4 and i think eld died once pre retro at lvl69 when i threw her in with rest at 70-75

[eternal moth]

I typically use books to get ships to 90 or 98 before sending them to grind

[rain bobcat]

ive dragged langley grey glorious wasp lvl 80s with like scylla 90 and 2 lvl 80 VGs

[split gazelle]

hm maybe my current one is more cursed

[vapid valve]

this is what have now

[rain bobcat]

[rapid shard]

Worse have been posted here. ||some by me||

[vapid valve]

is it really that bad

[rain bobcat]

mango just carries everyone there

[agile patrol]

OK this actually works kind of well
just that Elbe keeps dying to enemy planes (cuz i forgot to change my vanguard from the fodder one)
if i was using my regular vanguard this should be really easy

[eternal moth]

Mango?

[rain bobcat]

if thats not surviving then half the shit I ran shouldn't have

[rain bobcat]

shimanto

[vapid valve]

so should i just go to 12-1 instead then run everything from there from that point then

[rain bobcat]

her aa and heals are kinda cheatcode leveling on 12-4 for backline+vg as you level her

protects main with aa and heals vg

[eternal moth]

Grind on chapter 12 until you can push through to harder content, then level ships on 12 again

[split gazelle]

I'd put oumi on flag and mlb your eldridge but you can try it without those changes and see if it works.

[vapid valve]

ok will do that but what is mlb???

[rain bobcat]

I mean crossfleets make fights significantly easier

[split gazelle]

max limit break

[rain bobcat]

having a massive nuke from soyuz/alsace makes things simpler

[rapid shard]

How much xp can ships store at 115 if you out of cog chips to awaken?

[eternal moth]

3mil

[rapid shard]

Is that enough to hit 120 once you awaken?

[muted wind]

you only need 875k for that step

[eternal moth]

That's more than enough to hit 125 right?

[muted wind]

yes

115 to 125 should be... about 2.2mil?

[rapid shard]

I got 4 ships at 115 and got like 100 cog chips right now and eld taking prio over the rest cause they just tech fodders ive been messing around with.

[muted wind]

only time that cap is insufficient for level 125 is if the ship is at 105 or below (for URs 110 or below)

[vapid valve]

well i started it i hope that none of the ships get fucked over

[rain bobcat]

115 to 125 is like 2.6 mil max for UR

[split gazelle]

should be fine, as long as you see this

[rain bobcat]

around 2.1 for normal ship

[red sapphire]

Hi. I tried an OpSi boss but my Vanguard had been destroyed very soon. What could I use there?

[muted wind]

the wiki actually has a table for that, if you actually need it, under surplus experience on this page
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience

[wind hazel]

what are you using? what's your adaptive tuning level?

[eternal moth]

Not enough info. Could be adapts, vanguard levels, boss mobs, gear, etc

[vapid valve]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

[red sapphire]

I was using Neptune Yuugure Portland (the failure make sense) and no idea about the level. Let me check real quick

[muted wind]

if you're in danger, use a stronger fleet to clear the stage repeatedly until you're not

[wind hazel]

is your neptune fs5 with aug?

[rapid shard]

Other thing im curious on. Im currently coining Agir and shes at Dev22 atm. im still getting catchup BPs and will get 105 more. is that enough to hit dev30 or should i keep coining her?

[red sapphire]

Aug only

[muted wind]

absolutely not enough, keep coining

[eternal moth]

With a weak fleet your adapts are way too low.

[wind hazel]

increase adaptive tuning

what dev is your neptune

[rapid shard]

Thanks. Shes first DR and cost is way higher so wasnt sure the exact cost needed

[agile patrol]

nevermind i forgot sandy has insane amounts of AA and now she's carrying all of it

[muted wind]

tap on "BP Exchange" in the top right of the same menu, it'll show how much you still need

[red sapphire]

20/30. I'm with AvP right now so... Probably going to use an sr

My wonder is wich one

[wind hazel]

huh

[rapid shard]

That is a massive help cause i did not know that lol Appreciate it

[wind hazel]

you should coin neptune until dev30 at least if not fs5, or remove her entirely and stick with portland

[eternal moth]

You can see how many BP you need here.

[rapid shard]

1 "coin" is = to 1 BP right?

[wind hazel]

kinda wasteful since you already got her aug, i'd fully coin her

[split gazelle]

./devbp in #bot-spam is also pretty useful

[red sapphire]

Okay. Can I show my vanguard stuff to check is something better there?

[muted wind]

nah, the coin to BP ratio depends on how many you bought that day (or if you mean buy steps, yes)

[eternal moth]

The cost goes up, but each step is one BP

[muted wind]

yeah, i got confused by the phrasing

[rapid shard]

Yeah i was refering to the step since cost jumps each discount lol

Her not having a FS5 im trying to avoid having a bunch of left over BPs if possible to save coins for AvP who im bout to finish

[eternal moth]

Is your Kronstadt limit broken?

[wind hazel]

continue coining neptune, she will be your best tank until you can get anchorage or agir

[red sapphire]

Not yet...

[red sapphire]

I'm actually 1 tecnology away from develop Anchorage hahaha

[wind hazel]

just ignore the bosses for now, they won't run away. go level up and coin neptune, fight them again at the end of the month

[muted wind]

... wait, you got kala ideas? wasn't she a good tank too?

[red sapphire]

No idea. Is she?

[red sapphire]

Okayy

[wind hazel]

no point investing into kala

[rapid shard]

If you only 1 point from anchorage just grab some random EU ship from guild shop and start working on her while you finish up Neptune

[red sapphire]

Already done that. I could try random weird war archive rareship drop

[muted wind]

yeah, i suppose if you're about to get anchorage, i'd just go for that instead of investing into kala

[rapid shard]

Archive is not worth farming. Just wait at max 3 days for guild shop to reset then

[muted wind]

beyond that, you got portland and... i guess cheshire is fine if you need another tank now?

[wind hazel]

you can just max limit break any random elite lol

[rapid shard]

or even a gray

[wind hazel]

or buy any eagle ship you haven't bought from guild shop

[red sapphire]

My mob is Plymouth Trafalgar Sirius so yes. Serms good idea

[wind hazel]

dont use your traf, she's very fragile

[rapid shard]

Traf really isnt worth using cause she hasnt been limit broken even once

[red sapphire]

I did but I need more coins to refresh and buy an other xD

[wind hazel]

can put her as crossfleet at another fleet, but dont actually use the fleet

[eternal moth]

You really need to stop using ships that aren't fully MLB or dev30

[muted wind]

just limit break glowworm, she's only 3 levels away ... wait, that's hms

[red sapphire]

It's there for the xp. I could swap

[muted wind]

birmingham lb for the tech points would work, she's level 67 already anyways

[red sapphire]

True could do random common ships

[rapid shard]

Even with her being a rainbow if they aint MLB, Golds and even most Elites will out do them

[agile patrol]

what's trafalgar good at

[muted wind]

support

[red sapphire]

Make sense

[turbid marsh]

basically makes lion even more broken while excel in basically... everything else too

[agile patrol]

I.. Understood nothing from this

[rapid shard]

I did check for myself comparing a 4 star Ulrich to a MLB Mass (who sadly is shit) and she got blown out the water by mass

[red sapphire]

Oof, okay Cheshire step in

[muted wind]

debuff enemy AA and SPD
heals self and makes enemies take more damage when the flagship fires
more damage for HMS ships

honestly, simplified skill descriptions would be nice for this game, especially with how small the in-game box for that is

[eternal moth]

And how bloated skill explanations are getting.

[wind hazel]

raff lol

[agile patrol]

wow why can't they just write that 😭

[rapid shard]

3 paragraph skill descriptions should be banned and simplified for smoothbrain players like myself

[rain bobcat]

lucky E meanwhile simply double dmg and be invincible

[supple verge]

which gun is best for gouden leeuw?

[rapid shard]

Kaga skill. no way to confuse this.......

[eternal moth]

Rainbow

[supple verge]

mecklenburg?

[muted wind]

can i be honest? even i clocked out reading her descriptions and never used her after leveling her

[wind hazel]

she's good for carrying shitters at 14-1 and 15-1

[muted wind]

you see, i cleared w15 the week it released

[wind hazel]

carrying shitters, as in exp farming...

[turbid marsh]

yeah raff skill was confusing when i first saw it, i was like grade 11 english comprehension work books is easier than this

[muted wind]

... that would be an option

[wind hazel]

med/heavy/mob
light
light

[muted wind]

... does w15 drop cog chips? wiki doesn't say anything about it

[wind hazel]

of course lol. highest too

[supple verge]

ok

[turbid marsh]

drops the best cog chips unless you 1:1 in 13-1

[muted wind]

of course
you know what game this is, right?

[wind hazel]

this is helldivers

[narrow kiln]

Why is the Triple 406mm Mk 6 ranked above the battleships' gold cannons in the tier list?

[wind hazel]

it's not a rank

[muted wind]

might wanna look into 15-1 then... but... it's not at safe and i dunno if i care to do that

[turbid marsh]

also the best place to level vanguards

[red sapphire]

Oh before I forget to ask. Is Anchorage endgame ship?

[muted wind]

how come

[wind hazel]

eh, kinda

[eternal moth]

As Mori said, that's a common misconception. The tier list doesn't necessarily mean that the top gun is the best, you have to read the description.

[rapid shard]

as Suchi broke it down when i asked. the Purple mk6 can get 4 salvos off with +13ish reload tech compared to only 3 with the gold proto mk6 for example and just outclass it in dmg. very very very simplified explanation

[split gazelle]

what tierlist are we talking about

[rapid shard]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

Guide not tierlist

[red sapphire]

Okay thanks

[eternal moth]

I figured they were talking about ECTL

[wind hazel]

$10 bet he's not asking from this list

[rapid shard]

Probably not but this one better in my opinion

[ivory karma]

Isn't the Proto triple 283 mm /54.5 better because she gets 15% more efficiency there? (from her skill)

[rapid shard]

still have purp mk6 above the golds

[agile patrol]

-# can i has it insteads 🥺 👉 👈

[wind hazel]

yeah that's the bottom gun you're looking at

[wind hazel]

where do you see mk6 above gold lol

[narrow kiln]

I read up...
I saw that it's a great gun, and the gold ones are just AP, which is recommended primarily against medium/heavy armor bosses.

[wind hazel]

mk6 is literally dead last on either <w12 mobbing or light

[eternal moth]

"just AP" he says.

[rapid shard]

obviously above cause the golds didnt even make the reccomended options and next best upgrades are rainbows

[eternal moth]

Unless you're only fighting light enemies, an AP BB gun is better.

[wind hazel]

...

[ivory karma]

oh , i thought because of the order that the ur Prototype triple 203mm/55 is better in your picture xD

[wind hazel]

i believe it is

[narrow kiln]

Basically, I want to explain to a friend who might not even be on chapter 9.

[wind hazel]

just tell him purple mk6 good

[split gazelle]

ah now I understand the question

[ivory karma]

Okay, so the 15% effi isn't better then the ur . thank you now i understand 😄

[wind hazel]

ye unzen gun is 📈 but most of the time you won't be using gouden for light so it's kinda whatever in the end

just pick whichever is already at +10

[narrow kiln]

As I've seen before, Agir, Kronshtadt, and some other CBs only use CB guns for their skills.
Am I right?

[wind hazel]

technically no but most of the time yes

for simplicity sake, just use AP CB gun

[narrow kiln]

I use the Agir gun on my Kronshtadt because it's the best I can get (and I'm not ready to invest resources in other CBs at my level).

[vapid valve]

i know i cant get the lion gun but is there a way i can get the others

[agile patrol]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/BB_BC_BBV_Guns.jpeg

[muted wind]

cursory testing, i don't think what i have left to be leveled at this point would survive 15-1 anyways, even at safe, so... i'll stick to w13. unless i do something very wrong of course

[wind hazel]

raff unicorn eldridge +3, crossfleets

[muted wind]

that's a "no" to "do something very wrong" then

eldridge was a thought (well, i tried), but if torpedoes can just delete a ship, she might not proc in time. probably less of an issue at safe, but i don't want to leave it up to rng
-# also i kinda only need to level vanguard ships most of the time, so needing that slot for eldridge doesn't feel worth it

[cobalt rapids]

safe is a big difference

eldridge can safely tank, but ur fleet might die to planes on ooa 3* cv nodes

[muted wind]

yeah, should be ~35% less damage taken vs danger? also more damage, but i dunno if that matters when the vanguard deals no damage and the main fleet pretty much already kills with every salvo

[cobalt rapids]

the problem is the other 2 shitty vanguards dying and losing morale tho yea
raffy is better at keeping vang alive but is worse at dealing with 3* cv ooa nodes

than musashi

[muted wind]

doesn't really feel worth it in the end, i might get more cog chips, but i also lose about a third of the exp i get because... eldridge sits there.

[cobalt rapids]

when u have 300 cog chips in ur pocket like me udc about xp efficiency

[muted wind]

i am definitely bottlenecked on that too, but i should be catching up anyways

[cobalt rapids]

14-1 is way more chill tbf
i most often than not run 3 shitty vanguards with 2-3 backline healers
if vang is stronger than it allows leveling 1 backline aswell

[muted wind]

the biggest cog chip bottlenecks happen when there are a lot of new main fleet ships, and that was... recently the case. so i'll probably be fine in a few months and back to saving a little

[wind hazel]

🤝 14-1 bff

[cobalt rapids]

like they barely get scratched

[muted wind]

don't have 14-1 at safe either, but i might just try raff+uni+volga(?) and see if that keeps them alive to get it to safe

[wind hazel]

14-1 ez

raising 2 other shitters on boss too

[muted wind]

actually, is volga's or zuihou's healing better?

[agile patrol]

look at this stupid cat

[wind hazel]

ye dumb cat

[cobalt rapids]

zuihou is more consistent
volga can potentially heal more

[muted wind]

zuihou it is for now

[cobalt rapids]

vanguards
but we dc about backline healing

[muted wind]

yeah, i got uni for that

[cobalt rapids]

klaudia exactly

[muted wind]

actually, i could do that too, but i think uni is a bit better? lol. when it's safe

perseus seems like a meh idea in her place also

... actually, are 14-1 battles even that long?

[cobalt rapids]

i tend to use klaudia because no preload airstrike attached to prel heal means mvp control possible
and for ch13-1 shes more consistent with the aux at keeping the tank alive when i need to downgrade the map

[cobalt rapids]

not particularly
usually they are about done if not oaa by the time u get the xfleets + 1 more launch or smth

[muted wind]

may as well use perseus then, hm. eh

[cobalt rapids]

percy is better in ch13-1 where battles end with xfleets so neither uni or klau can get 2nd heal off but in ch14-1 depending how hard u need to carry its better to stick to uni so u dont get destroyed on ooa 3* bb or smth

[muted wind]

well, let's see if danger wrecks them, or at least get a feel for whether this is gonna work at all

[cobalt rapids]

yes but only rate it after safe threat

[muted wind]

if they can clear, i'll use them to safe it

[silk helm]

Anyone to MLB? Or save. Have like 8 bulin rn

[cobalt rapids]

show all ur URs mlb-ed/maxed included

[muted wind]

well, they can. kinugasa the goat

i put the wrong guns on my boss fleet didn't matter

[cobalt rapids]

ca hp tech farmer

[muted wind]

she's one 4 CAs with tech i haven't maxed yet, so

[muted wind]

but really though

[cobalt rapids]

dinosaur in the wild

[muted wind]

thanks

[silk helm]

Hereee

Meckle dev 30 soon 🥀

[cobalt rapids]

honestly atp i would do i404

[muted wind]

or save bulins and wait to see who the next new UR will be, you don't seem to be needing anything in particular

[agile patrol]

what is she DOING

[cobalt rapids]

well they have 8 bulins so they can afford to use some 🥀

[muted wind]

oh, yeah, do i-404

[silk helm]

I hate saving

[cobalt rapids]

must be new to l2ds

[heavy crag]

how do you plan out main story map pass chap 14

felt like once i reach the cap its imposible to clear all enemies

which means no 3*

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief read both guides
also youre not supposed to take all the enemies on lethal (altho doable ) because safe threat is a huge boon

[silk helm]

BTW do we know if there's any collab gear? Like DD aux?

[cobalt rapids]

we donno yet

[silk helm]

Tyty

[muted wind]

(i totally didn't full-clear 14-3 and 15-3 on dangerous near release like an absolute idiot)

[cobalt rapids]

same

[muted wind]

i mean, 15-4 is even more absurd because i figured i'd get it to safe before the map drop (i did)

[cobalt rapids]

luckily back when idid it housii used to drop from the 2ndary bosses 🥀

[muted wind]

... guess i wasn't lucky with that, got her from a last boss

[vestal raven]

which one should i prioritize crafting, georgia gun or tenrai? already have one of each from the shop.

[wind hazel]

tenrai. one 457 is often enough

[gilded carbon]

Going for the PR1 (finally)

[wind hazel]

ye but it's kinda meh

[vestal raven]

thank you

[eternal moth]

Collab this week, Clemenceau rerun confirmed for next maintenance, in case anyone missed it

[turbid marsh]

ah yes, i missed the title XD

[vague oracle]

Is this a good gun for Anchorage?

I don't see her dealing dmg

[muted wind]

she doesn't really deal much damage, i wouldn't craft a gun specifically for that

[sweet delta]

According to this, it's barely better than the tech box eugen gun https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#vanguard-weapons-ca-guns

[peak fable]

how do I prevent my flagship from getting absolutely blasted by enemy BB shots? My 2 CVs take next to zero damage, just chilling there and I just kinda finish my runs without my BB lol

[sweet delta]

What chapter? Give her a 🧯

[peak fable]

chapter 11 atm (not high enough lvl for 12)
it's weird cause some auto runs she comes out with full hp, other auto runs she literally loses 80% hp in one encounter, idek anymore (I'm using Nelson atm for my mob fleet)

[rain vine]

shes probably running up against a 3* bb node, and since the cvs arent revealed, shes the only one taking damage
a 2nd bb may help split aggro, if you have one

[peak fable]

oh, that's how it works, alright fielding another BB alongside her then

[viscid swift]

Or just run a fire extinguisher on your battleship

[peak fable]

do you guys level your fire extinguishers or just an unleveled one?

[viscid swift]

I have them at +7 because why not

[peak fable]

fair enough

[rocky lake]

are either Ryu or Hestia a must get from the upcoming event? or are they both just nice to pickups?

[stark quiver]

no info on them yet, so cant tell, but they might be BRS format where you can unlock them by just doing daily missions
also gph people are allergic to actually answering question without reaction spam

[rocky lake]

👍 Cheers, ig ill just keep lurking about until something pops up

[viscid swift]

They are

Jp patch notes already confirmed as much

[stark quiver]

nice, so no reason not to get them

[rocky lake]

[turbid glacier]

Any idea when new event will arrive?

[wind hazel]

day after tomorrow

[turbid glacier]

Thanks, is there some fixed time limit between events ?

[wind hazel]

either 1 or 2 weeks in between

the upcoming event is consider small event so definition of event may vary

[weary edge]

greetings brosephs, should i retrofit helena?

currently using her in my boss fleet and also will probably be using ark royal in boss fleet as well soon

[cobalt rapids]

retrofit helena when u can benefit from the shifted sg timing or ure rich

[weary edge]

uhhhhh what's sg

[fair lance]

sg radar moves her damage buff timer first scan is 16s rather than 20s

[weary edge]

oooo

i got a gold one just sitting in my depot begging to be used

[stone sluice]

We get cogs from 12-1, right?

[ivory pawn]

Yes.

[silk helm]

chips, yes

[stone sluice]

I’m not seeing any

[ivory pawn]

RNG be RNG, it’s not a guaranteed drop.

Every so often you’ll get like 20 chips in the Clearing Rewards.

[stone sluice]

[vagrant arch]

Where do we get the gifts that increase affinity?

[cobalt rapids]

island planner or akashis shop

[vagrant arch]

Ah, that was the purpose of the island planner i had missed

[tardy trench]

what do i do with extra oil ?, should i spam 9-4 for lvls ?

[cobalt rapids]

push to ch12 and only stop lower if ucannot progress

[red sapphire]

Is this a good Vanguard to bring on a OpSi boss fight?

[silk helm]

what other ships u have?

[cobalt rapids]

its a good vanguard for opsi assuming theres cvs to be bbuffed

[red sapphire]

Sorry, I'm a bit bussy but it's IJN Cvs

[red sapphire]

Yes that's the plan

[supple verge]

im struggling to clear W15 assume i have all the ship girls in the game what are some top picks for mob and boss for each level? Thanks

[red sapphire]

No idea but I think there is a guide

[violet grail]

Idk if someone mentioned already, just skimming through, but the main reason for the variance in damage taken is the type of mob fleets that spawn. You can see they each have 1, 2 or 3 triangles denoting degrees of difficulty, the actual image of the ship also tells you something about the type of enemy but im too lazy to remember what exactly, probably something to do with amount of suicide boats, planes etc.

So if you get like 5 spawns with 3 triangles you will likely take an abnormal amount of damage that run.

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[red sapphire]

I will go for it. Thanks!

[cobalt rapids]

sure, without knowing the rest of ur options its kinda hard to suggest anything else tho

[red sapphire]

@cobalt rapids That's true. I sent this before so you can see the options.

[supple verge]

thanks

[cobalt rapids]

kazagumo/sirius over potter depending on what ure fighting
kazagumo especially more if ure using shinano since u mentioned ijn cvs and she needs the 3rd ijn in fleet
or just slot both and give helena to the other boss fleet
aurora is also worth raising for any fleet because shes the biggest consistent debuff against the hulls she works against

[twilit wren]

whats the next milestone after reaching 12-1?

[red sapphire]

Oh okay. Sirius is on mob I can use Kazagumo in that case

[cobalt rapids]

farming or unlocking ch12-4 for more farming
like working on ur research ships ( pr grind ) and building more surface fleets for opsi

[twilit wren]

thanks!

[cobalt rapids]

u can use something like nep shima shimanto on mob

[red sapphire]

Nep?

Ah neptune

Mob rn is Plymouth Trafalgar Sirius

[cobalt rapids]

traf at lb0 is kinda useless
u can give ply and helena to the other boss fleet that has mayble like a UR bb flag

[red sapphire]

Well I'm leveling to 120 while I earn the stuff for the tech

I can get 2 ur lb soon. It's still not worth at 5*?

[cobalt rapids]

its not worth half investing into URs

[red sapphire]

The plan is 6* but will take a while

[cobalt rapids]

or any ship

[cobalt rapids]

yes but maybe u have better investments for backline
if u want u can post the entire dock in a thread and we can sort it out

[red sapphire]

Like here?

[cobalt rapids]

yea just make a thread in this channel

[violet grail]

on pc theres a button top right for threads ,on phone i think you tap and hold the channel name to get to threads

[red sapphire]

Oh okay. I'm a bit bussy right now. Do you mind if I ping you when I do so?

[cobalt rapids]

dont mind

[red sapphire]

[haughty hound]

Hi! When looking at Ulrich's limit break effects I noticed the ''main gun mount +1'' what does this refer to?

[woven star]

BBs have 3 shots. 0lb 1 gun. First and third lb +1 gun each

[ivory pawn]

Each MGM is +1 volley when she fires her gun. Yes, it’s a massive increase in DPS.

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1402831954360926228/abercrombiePEWPEWPEW.png?ex=68e66cd1&is=68e51b51&hm=a8a99a88ce088f364282555c6daaa34ad0e30a13749f901783a5f5a435a52aef&

[haughty hound]

OHHHH OK LMFAO

[woven star]

That's why 0lb ship have 1/3 (or even less according to stats too) damage potential

[haughty hound]

then main gun base is something similar?

[red sapphire]

RakaChan's Dock

[delicate bronze]

whats the command for up-to-date guides?
looking some fleets for 14-4 and world 15

[hushed sorrel]

world 15 is that one: https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15 and they cannot really outdate

the content doesnt grow stronger over time

[stark quiver]

up to date guides include up to date example fleets

[hushed sorrel]

if you want a fleet that matches your options you are right here in this channel. :)

[delicate bronze]

i kinda just want to steal someone's fleet

[hushed sorrel]

(disclaimer i am not one of said fleet builder)

[delicate bronze]

i want to 99% the game already
past collab boats are out of my reach🥀

[hushed sorrel]

just open up a thread 🧵 and you can collect your options there and make other attentive you made one. help will arrive just a matter of time

[delicate bronze]

its hilarious that im asking for help tbh

[stark quiver]

if you tell some1 to make a thread, you should probably help in it, sometimes someone makes a thread and its just idle for the rest of the day

[delicate bronze]

i should know the game inside out

only ones left

[hushed sorrel]

no way. if i answer but dont know what i am speaking about? you see thats not true

its not like the thread disappears by being idle either, just post a link after some time

[stark quiver]

you say 14-4 and w15? you can read the guide first, theres example fleets,
if you cant craft one, then maybe i can help

[delicate bronze]

is w15 auto even possible?

[stark quiver]

its easy

[delicate bronze]

ill start 14-4 tomorrow once ive completed last PR xp grind

[viscid swift]

Been possible since day 1

[violet grail]

As long as you preface with what your level of knowledge is, just giving some ideas can still be helpful until someone else chimes in.

Also trying to help others is one of the best ways to learn yourself imo. Makes you try to formulate game plans in a more structured and concise way than you might for yourself.

[stark quiver]

dont brick the person's account

[hushed sorrel]

i helped at best as i could, sometimes you get more help by giving better and more accurate informations about the up-to-date options. thats all i wanted to say without posting this reasoning. i am playing way to casual to have any knowlegde about actual fleet building and there is no reason to know that (for me personally)

[pearl hare]

Which ships would you recommend using for 12-4? Thinking of switching Regensburg with someone else

This is for IB vanguard research

[stark quiver]

agir, z1, duisberg if you limit break her

[pearl hare]

A bit far for Duisburg but I'll work on it

[stark quiver]

dont worry then, use z2

[slow fox]

As long as you have her flagship defence skill, I think that'll be fine. I pushed books into her to get to 112.

[cobalt rapids]

do i just send u a list of vanguards with name - level - oath - and this thing:
Manual don't move, record battle time when ship die, then restart

if battle expires before ship die, record ship HP remaining

[vapid valve]

is doing the retrofit for 2 ships from sakura empire even worth it

[cobalt rapids]

which 2 ships
probably not

[vapid valve]

Hiryuu and soryuu

[cobalt rapids]

not worth

[vapid valve]

got it so stick to unicron and edlerige then right

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[rain bobcat]

how long is maint 6 or 8?

[slow fox]

The W15 testing regimen I'm running with is auto, actually! So there would exist no bias in the time it takes to turn manual off, or the steering of the girls.

I'm interested in lifetime differences between L/M/H. I'm currently testing Portland. 30 trials each in 3* DD, BB, and CV nodes. Load boss fleet with high ACV CVs for air supeemacy.

Backline: Musashi SoDak Meck.
Vanguard: XXX Hammann II Yukikaze

Just run the battle until Portland dies, then record the time and reset. (Send portland stats just in case. I use 125 +13 rudder love.)

Or, (I might prefer this so we remain consistent) you can test a L (or H) armored shipgirl, with [near 100% eHP] and simple eHP skills. [I highly recommend Sheffield and Little Agir]

[safe nexus]

12-1 and 12-4 whats the difference?

does 12-4 give more exp and coins?

[rain bobcat]

less exp more coin

[safe nexus]

ok ty

currently capped on coins do i grind more coins or just focus exp on my ships?

[eternal basalt]

We learn when patchnotes drop but prob 8, next week prob 6

[cobalt rapids]

i can do sheffy but ill need 3 days to raise her blue skills
for heaby armor my agir chan isnt raised so thats kinda not an option

[slow fox]

Okay. You can do Sheffy. The other Heavy Armor option I recommend is Azuma.

I'm a little concerned about tech differences.

[slow fox]

holy shit I'm so glad it's all cruisers based

[hazy olive]

Aight gang is Le Terrible any good

[cobalt rapids]

no

[slow fox]

-# she's

[hazy olive]

Don’t you fucking dare

[slow fox]

-# terrible

[hazy olive]

DIE

[slow fox]

CL

HP 95
EVA 3
AA 26

CA

HP 123
EVA 1
AA 5

CB

HP 112
EVA 1
AA 5

[cobalt rapids]

slacking on cruiser eva tech ehp

[slow fox]

1.4% eHP IMPROVEMENT

(For 4 eva)

[cobalt rapids]

well ill send total stats with results because my azuma is oathed so

[slow fox]

Mine is too

[forest palm]

the wheel chair calls

[unique trail]

Good afternoon, excuse me, this is my favorite ship, but I don't know if this team has improved my ship more or not. I'm new to Discord.

[violet grail]

Should I be doing these commissions or ignoring them? 1200 oil seems expensive.

[vagrant harness]

how long does it usually take to get 1 copy of current meta ship that is not in cruise mission?

[dark hazel]

ignore, most people will only use those if they can't play at all for an extended period of time and need to spend oil on something
it is an otherwise inefficient use of oil

[rain bobcat]

ppl also use it to try looping to the cube version if they're desperate in an event

like 1 in 10 will give you 6 cubes

[violet grail]

Thanks thats reassuring that I was doing the right thing, was worried it might progress into a better mission and I was missing out.

[dark hazel]

that is some extreme desperation, but yeah that's an option

keep in mind regular grinding will give urgent coms that also can give cubes, and you get much better xp/coins. so that is a niche scenario

[violet grail]

I hope I wont be that desperate for cubes. Sitting at 275 now.

[noble cypress]

does anyone know where i could get an up to date tier list

[dark hazel]

400 is max needed for new UR event pity, but with average luck you won't need 400 and you can get more during event so that's not bad. there is Unzen rerun soon tho

[dark hazel]

#bot-spam /tierlist

[noble cypress]

oo ty

[violet grail]

Used 40 cubes to pull oumi haku and asama, idk if thats lucky or average.

[sweet delta]

Depends what you want her to do. The main gun is best against light armor enemies. The fumo 25 is only good if she's not dying
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#vanguard-weapons-ca-guns

[unique trail]

I use Takao as the main, of the Ur gears I only have two.

[weary edge]

what r the differences between all the skins?

[novel solstice]

BGM: there is background music
Animated BG: the skin has a background which is animated
Regular BG: the skin has a background that is not animated
Static: it's just a picture, no animation
Dynamic and L2D have two different methods of animation.

Though really, I just ignore the filters there and look through the themes that interest me for my wifus.

[sullen dew]

My advice is to only do it when you're not gonna play for some time (i.e. going to bed for the night)

[silk helm]

nah dont do it even if youre going to bed. the oil better spent elsewhere

[tame jungle]

long comms are a dogshit oil investment

[eternal basalt]

They were good once, but then oilcap cames along, and they've never been the saeme

[silk helm]

wait lol oil caps weren't a thing before?

[tame jungle]

i believe one of the ways people farmed coins was coin nodes on 7-3 (?)

[slow fox]

7-2

And MLB0 low stages to retiremaxx

[eternal basalt]

2-1 and retire for oil

[sweet delta]

7-2 do 3 mob battles, pick up the 4 question marks, retreat

[viscid swift]

These were the days before autosearch and clearing mode

[sweet delta]

Clearing rewards

[stark quiver]

can i level at least 150+ ship to 120 starting now until next anni
using normal leveling strats like 12-1 one fleet, xfleet fights boss

[eternal basalt]

Sure, if you count till next August

[stark quiver]

next en anni

[eternal basalt]

Yes, next August

[undone plover]

some quick calcs

cogs will be a bigger issue I think than xp
20k is probably on the higher end of cog income/month

[stark quiver]

can money solve cog problem fully

[undone plover]

sry mistake on the xp part it is 102 ships prev was higher

[undone plover]

ask neko
I mean 100/year is a good amount why do u want more

[whole crypt]

it takes time but if you're willing to spend gems at all buying the first 5 discounted stack each month goes a long way

also the chip packs whenever events are on

[stark quiver]

do you guys do meta fully
and do i have enough time to get 70k
if im at 12k

[eternal basalt]

I do 70k each time, yes

[whole crypt]

every single one of my METAs are maxed, if it's just for chips some stop at 65k or something if you want to keep fight for testing

[undone plover]

i do 25k but I am lazy this time so far

[stark quiver]

i kinda want those cogs but lazy

[whole crypt]

strict believer of consistent effort works out in AL

[stark quiver]

maybe i should start doing it

[viscid swift]

I managed that so yeah

But I also grind a lot more than you do....

[weary edge]

are any of these worth crafting and using (aside from the washing machine)

[stark quiver]

Hmm

[whole crypt]

staag good

[hot turret]

I don;t really know where to post this but have you guys also experienced a bug where when you slide in Docks your ships and slide into a Meta ships your screen gets completely locked? I tried many times and I have to close the game and get back in

[viscid swift]

that's just desync

[quartz breach]

For the cruise mission that asks you to "Sortie and defeat 20 Boss Fleets", does it count if you do so in Operation Siren?

[violet grail]

Someone in world chat in-game is asking whether skipping fights in stronghold is considered abuse or allowed.

Specifically where a miniboss is protected by an ambush tile and a regular fleet, the send 1 fleet in, block the tile behind with another fleet, then escape fight on the miniboss side. Is that fine? Seems like a neat trick and not impactful enough to be abuse imo but idk how devs see it.

[eternal basalt]

We've done it since day 1

[stark quiver]

whos we

[eternal basalt]

Became less used when we just set auto and go

[stark quiver]

as long as they arent like tapping into game code and thanos snapping the node away, theyll be fine

[viscid swift]

aye

just easier to fight and get extra loot

[eternal basalt]

1 full voucher worth of coins

[violet grail]

Ah so not actually worth skipping then. Sounded smart though XD

[hot turret]

Is Essex pre retrofit better than Aquila? (I also have Entreprise)

[eternal basalt]

The rewards are REALLY bad, we're just lazy

[viscid swift]

very different capabilities

[hot turret]

I'm world 8 so I dont rly care about mob or boss fleets yet, I currently run Unicorn retrofit and Aquila so I just wanted to know if Essex Pre retrofit (working on it) is better than Aquila (both are max limit break)

[viscid swift]

no

[hot turret]

alright, guess Aquila is that good, nice

[agile patrol]

hi
What sort of gear would I use for Essex retro as a bosser? Abyssals/Strongholds
im using her along with enty if that matters
just confused about the whole being able to use any type of plane on two slots
would it be like 1 fighter 2 torp bombers? and i assume 2 fighters 1 torp for W14+?

[ivory pawn]

<@&460646206851252224> Elon Musk this time around.

[patent fiber]

/kick 688996939815190531 hacked account

[odd root]

member must be a mention or valid user id.

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[agile patrol]

while this does answer which gear i should be using
it doesn't really help with what format i should use on her retrofit

just confused about the whole being able to use any type of plane on two slots
would it be like 1 fighter 2 torp bombers? and i assume 2 fighters 1 torp for W14+?

[viscid swift]

well as implied by the fact we do have overall rankings looking at all aircraft, you adjust based on the content you're tackling

[agile patrol]

iseeiseeisee . . .

[viscid swift]

we call them flex/flexible slots

[violet grail]

I guess for single boss you would want double converging torp bombers, as opposed to parallel bombers. Also depends on the boss' armour type.

You could look up azure lane jimmy on youtube, he has a playlist explaining armour types and then a video for each weapon type. But they are fairly long and I dont have a good enough understanding of it all myself yet to summarize properly. But main thing is to understand armour types and what's good against which type.

Im still fairly new, started during amahara so take any advice I give with a grain of salt.

[agile patrol]

OH. i was wondering what that meant

[agile patrol]

i usually avoid youtube guides because i find that 80% of them have bad info for some reason
but i'll check jimmy out

[viscid swift]

This is a pretty easy-to-follow comparison for damage
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[stark quiver]

while jimmy is a competent player
his content leans more on the endgame player side, so its not something the normal player can copy

[agile patrol]

for armor types, do i have to go on the wiki to check enemy's armor or is there a way to check boss armor ingame?

[viscid swift]

only for OpSi

[agile patrol]

good enough

[viscid swift]

turn off fleet lock and it'll tell you before you start the fight

you'll have to rely on 3rd part sites but after a while you start noticing patterns which ship types are what armor types though it's always best to double check

[agile patrol]

CL, DD light armor
CA, CV medium armor
BB heavy armor
yes?

[viscid swift]

yes

[stark quiver]

not all CVs are medium armor

[soft raft]

there's a few exceptions but yes that's pretty much it

[tropic tusk]

Did they mention the first collab is it gacha or gift?

[viscid swift]

the 2 ships are grindable exactly like the BRS collab

[tropic tusk]

Ok 3q

[hot turret]

Can someone explain how I can craft one of these? I pressed auto select but it raises the price to 20k (which I don't have rn) but I apparently don't have enough material. Which is strange because apparently it only requires 15 augment cores and I have 76

[ivory pawn]

You can craft it immediately for the listed cost and get the base effect, but that's kinda whatever.

If you add more materials, which you can do now or after the initial craft, you'll level it up until you're out or it's max level.

Which also costs coin too ofc.

Imo, it's not worth crafting until you can reach level 10, but no harm in crafting earlier, especially for probably one of the most highly recommended augments to get.

[subtle cave]

with the UR Sub out i should just replace one of the other SR ships with her right?

[hot turret]

Well it doesn't even let me craft it at the base lvl for some reason

[robust onyx]

You need to put materials into it to craft it,

Select auto-select at the top left

[ivory pawn]

Huh, I could've sworn you could craft it without leveling it to max, but I seem to be wrong. That's stupid.

[hot turret]

oooh ok I need to select materials until I get at least lvl 1

[robust onyx]

It needs a minimum amount to craft

[hot turret]

ok now it worked

aaand I'm poor...prob not a great decision

oh welp

[ivory pawn]

Oh, huh. I get it now. That's what happens when I only click autoselect.

[robust onyx]

3000 material for the 1st level

[hot turret]

any recomendations to farm gold?

[robust onyx]

12-4

[ivory pawn]

Get to w9+ and gold income will be much better.

[hot turret]

yeeah...that's gonna take a while for me then

Just unlocked w9 at least

[robust onyx]

Then the highest after w9

Due to oil cap or 1 of the war archive maps which relates to muse event

[hot turret]

ah ok cool

[robust onyx]

The 5th map has an oil cap

[quiet kiln]

Does constellation have to be flagship? I wanna put essex as flagship and use new jersey in the other fleet for the avi buff

[stark quiver]

damn

[robust onyx]

Yes she replaces a SR sub in all sub fleet builds

[viscid swift]

<@&460646206851252224> scam

[robust onyx]

No point putting Essex in flag over Constellation

[ivory pawn]

Using Constellation as Flag will still get you the AVI buff.

[dark hazel]

Is there a preference for pinging admins/mods for spam like that? Sorry not gameplay ik

[proud geyser]

Both are fine

[stark quiver]

i ping whichever is easier to type
which happens to be admins

[ivory pawn]

I've seen a couple mods/admins/something say pinging admins is better, so I ping admins.

[little venture]

I mean... I have both so either way I get all 23 of the alerts

[quiet kiln]

I read the skill wrong, mb

[silent hearth]

Should i get the prototype spearfish or the wyvern first? im leaning towards spearfish because mobbing is easier in general, but i think it would make things easier too.

[rapid shard]

Wyvern

its cheaper and spearfish is just a luxery sidegrade

[silent hearth]

got it, ty

yeah the best torp bomber i have is the Tenzan Kai anyways

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[silent hearth]

yeah i know, ive seen it.

[viscid swift]

no you haven't

[rapid shard]

The one he linked is a different guide than that one

[viscid swift]

that's the gear guide, what I just posted is the Gear Lab guide

[silent hearth]

ok so is the picture there supposed to be in priority order then?

[viscid swift]

no

that's going strictly by performance/preference

[silent hearth]

ok, so should i be going based off of the 'new player' rankings?

[viscid swift]

as I note in the disclaimer

**This is not strictly a crafting guide, and as such, don't treat all pieces listed in this guide as safe to craft. **Conversely, several pieces of gear have been deliberately omitted from this guide. While they might be better than some of the options that are listed (though not best in slot), they are only marginal improvements over some of the pieces that are listed while being much more expensive to obtain, like +13 Monarch Gun.

[rapid shard]

From the gear guide right above your picture

[silent hearth]

.< yes i know. ive read it.

i mean for this one

[sweet delta]

Yes just follow the new player column and quantity

[silent hearth]

ok thank you 👍

thats very helpful

[rapid shard]

The JU value is only if the JU is +13 right? is it still a good upgrade over the TenzenKai if both are +10?

[viscid swift]

it(Tenzan Kai) has the exact same torpedoes as a gold Ryussei for context and almost the same reload time

[sweet delta]

So ju +10 is worth having, while Ryusei +10 not so much

For syncs

[rapid shard]

ive got few TenzanKais already. but avoiding +13ing stuff just yet cause of limited gold plates. ill probably make 1 to try some syncing then.

[silent hearth]

so is the bidder the only torp worth crafting in the gear lab?

[stark quiver]

yes

[whole crypt]

in general yes, for subs

[stark quiver]

t95k is for rich people

[whole crypt]

if you include surface torps quad mag is fair game

[silent hearth]

yeah one of the first few things i made in the lab was a few mag torps, the gold ones.

[whole crypt]

it's not that expensive and you'll use a lot of them

[silent hearth]

so it says the flapjack is mainly for w15, im still a bit out from there so i should make a few BF-109G first then?

[soft raft]

What
no

[whole crypt]

you're better off getting BFGs from proto core because plane materials are highly contested

[viscid swift]

it's really not that expensive

[rapid shard]

and 109 is only really used against med and light bosses

[silent hearth]

honestly RNG has been giving me more plane stuff then anything by a good amount XD

[viscid swift]

actually, it doesn't even use electronics

[whole crypt]

oh?

[soft raft]

BF-109 is essentially hard locked to Operation Siren because rocket fighters dont have passive interception capabiity

[stark quiver]

doesnt it use ords

[whole crypt]

the go ahead I guess

[stark quiver]

wtf 400 ords

[whole crypt]

you probably don't need more than 2 or 3 though

if you consistently clear out OS for a few years ordreps aren't that hard

[silent hearth]

ahhhh...well that changes it for me then. AA is one of the areas im lacking, i made my first flapjack the otherday just so i could try and get through 13-1.

[sweet delta]

Great to improve CV fleets. This month and next month have light and medium arbiters

[viscid swift]

which we say as much by rating it a D for campaign ffs

[sweet delta]

I'd rather clear all of opsi than 13-1

[stark quiver]

if im hard focusing plane plates
how long would it take to get 320

[whole crypt]

you don't need flaps for 13 anyway, you might want to review fleet

[viscid swift]

Hellcats are fine for 13-1 anyway

[soft raft]

^

Flapjacks didnt even exist until like 3(?) years ago, which was long after W13 even became a thing

[silent hearth]

yeah i got sanny, she made the biggest difference by a good margin.

my AA ships have been almost non-existent until i bought her.

[whole crypt]

13 was cleared years ago with significantly worse AA options

[rain bobcat]

vestal akashi user on 13-4 rise up

[viscid swift]

and worse ships as a whole

[silent hearth]

my best AA option prior to sandy was Helena...

[stark quiver]

same

[viscid swift]

anyway, just don't rush it

take the time build up and gear 2 proper fleets for W13

[silent hearth]

i have almost twice as many CV/CVL as any other purple/gold ships XD

[viscid swift]

irrelevant but ok

[whole crypt]

most leveling will be done at 12 and clearing up OS for materials is more important than campaign progress at that point

[stark quiver]

hi

[silent hearth]

yup thats where im at atm. ive been leveling my mob fleet in 12-4 and farming OS for the last 2 weeks.

[viscid swift]

a 2 to 3 ish months?

[stark quiver]

bruh

[rain bobcat]

3months

[twilit wren]

say my ship is at lvl 110, dont have chips for cog awakening, they still store exp right

[viscid swift]

up to 3 million yes

[rapid shard]

Yes

[stark quiver]

thats pretty long, almost long enough for pvp meta to change

[twilit wren]

cool thx

[whole crypt]

360 plates is similar time frame to making 1 rainbow PR gear

[rain bobcat]

well thats like guild plates mostly

like 100 a month? so ur looking at getting 60 from OS so its a little less than 3 months maybe 2.5

[stark quiver]

even with full selector focus and guild shop focus?

[rain bobcat]

like 2ish yeah

[whole crypt]

you don't get that many selectors each month, OS RNG probably makes a bigger difference