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12-4 is the best realistic place to farm gold
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are any other ships from this UR event good for anything
that you wouldn't just use a UR for
Oumi is a great gold BB but meta URs better
sushi just uploaded a video showcasing how strong she is, if you don't have the meta UR BBs she's likely your best option
warsite 
whats the best fleet for hard abiter rn
eye candy it is, thanks!
what's the gear setup for the top I-404 comp again?
https://youtu.be/1MhvKc4iZsU
I don't have the screenshot but it's in sushi's vid
do i have to 3 star 10-1 to unlock 10-2
no, just clear
just 100% clear
no not really
uhh yea actually it is 🤓
How so?
Genuienly curious
if you have to 3 star to next stage then w14/15 will take forever....
when you are clearing fodder content ofc you wont appreciate how beneficial it is
Does anyone have a problem that the game crashes after like one full clear?
only on the shitty tablet, jus t turn down the setting
Mine crashes every now and then and I have a Samsung Galaxy S14
Then again I’m running it for hours so maybe why
is there a way to auto all my loggers at once
Is Rodney Meta fight basically just full on brute Force vs Heavy?
It’s a very complicated one
Any tips before going head on with her?
Ic, looks like Timing at best like the Helena Monthly Challenge but for CV's 
i thought they used a 3 nagato fleet there 💀
hiddens?
just buy the thing from shop to auto
there was infact a strategic search for hiddens
do i lose any rewards if i do that
uh...if any boxes are blocked the AI will ignore those
do boxes have plates
some can
hmm
i ignore thoes normally too, so 
I'll take note of this one for future runs
How about QE Meta?
Being a meta ship
nah, the boss fight as a whole?
run either whichita meta or helena meta (helena requires more investment)
oh
Or these days meta BBs are strong enough
meta bb?
i guess rodney meta might work
but id just run 2 ijn implac with z52,kaza,wichitam
should something like a Kawakaze META work? or even the new Yuudachi Meta? or is Wichita just straight better because of her being a good Glass Cannon, she is the only META I don't have...
you need to clear the meta nodes pretty fast so they dont eat up a whole or half of your second strike
now that i think about it
glorious meta may or may not work
doesnt Lion solo the knights?
idk
That's what I thought too, but ppl have been claiming she doesn't so idk
At least not fast enough or sth
why dont we
put that to the test
knights spawn at around 40, lion does barrage at 35, take 9s to do 3 ticks?
lion + what other boats
maybe some knights dodge the big lion
lion this lion that lion the best, when is the rerun? 
is ply better with traf or unzen with traf, no torp buffers
does the guild give gems? i'm not sure i saw correctly cuz i was spamming on auto pilot but i feel like i saw gems while claiming rewards fro mthe guild
1% chance
Lion flame did not kill the knights in time
Should I use asama in this team
Unzen is a bit better according to me, but lion flame probably hit everything unlike last year
i think the whole fleet can use a makeover
you can start a thread and post your dock
Like here or somewhere else
Glorius meta worked for me, she killed the knights so my next ship could hit Rodney. I think I used a spearfish to get a good timing.
rodney 
we were testing qem
Then it’s QEM lul
The one with the knights that spawn

Glorious works pretty well on the knights, just checked it out
Most things do , QE is really squishy
Is there a low cost team that I can use to spam event or any auto run mode because I am tired of running out of oil and just thinking of running that on auto repeat then just using the stonger unit to run bosses
if you're on D maps, dont bother cuz oil cap exists
if you're not, you can consider Unicorn retro + a DDG
Ranger/Cassin or Downes if you have enough fleet tech
After finishing Jintsuu Meta im starting Repulse meta. Does she have any weird gimmicks like yudachi meta with the fires?
How do I do both since I am definitely interested
Dm me all the info instead so I can refer back to my notes since I have been needing this for a while
What do you mean how do you do both?
Just don bother trying to low cost D maps
It's not worth it cuz you'd have to do the Ranger + Cassin/Downes strat which is already hard enough if you lack tech, that's also on top of the enemies being higher level
Surely you can spare like 260 or so oil per run
Also out of curiosity, are you using the 2x plans?
That might be why you're burning through your oil at a exceedingly fast rate
Yes because it made my research faster for kersage and using it to gain faster the xp for ships
that's just a placebo....
No fucking wonder
those essentially let you do two runs at once
Which means double everything Including the negatives like morale and oil drain
On top of that I’m trying to get ready for the research for the next project that I’m interested in since I want the iron blood ship
Oh shit
You know what takes a lot longer than XP farming for a PR ship? Getting enough BP for them to be worthwhile
as such, these are only used as time saving tools if you lack the time to grind
How would I do that
Keep doing research
Got it
Let's put it this way: I still don't have Mecklenberg at dev30, and she's the one I've focused the most on.
Granted, I've been focusing more on gear than ship BP, but still
on average it's a 4 to 6 month endeavor
Granted but I have have speed up the whole process
you can't unless you're willing to spend on cubes
also oil
anyway AL rewards patience in the end 
do you really have to though
cuz having her early wont mean anything when it'll take months at the very mininum to get her into a useable state so she's just collecting dust in your dock in the meantime
Hmm how so since I will complete everything
The blueprints needed to get them to D30.....
Which is the equivalent of MLB and Max enhancements....
AKA where a huge majority of their stats are locked behind
Research Ships are practically useless if they aren't Dev 30 
I haven’t completed it

whats the fastest bootup and load emulator
I would choose mumu
is it based off personal experience
yeah, i did run bluestack ldplayer but i feel that mumu was more smooth
which one had the fasest app startup & game launch
i dont mind if its not as smooth
Back ally is better with 2 planes 1 weapon or 2 weapons 1 plane?
Mumu take about 3-5s to start up. others seem slower a bit
Bluestakes P64 doesn't take more than a minute 
though part of it taking long could be if your computer is having a skill issue
1 minute is way too long
I feel like bluestack is the slowest one, next is LDplayer and fastest for me is Mumu
ya cause I don't time it, and when I just timed it it took about 20 seconds to boot in all 
Hi. Will this do ok against Yuudachi meta?
anyway Emulators are weird and wonky and will vary from rig to rig
no
What do I stack vs her? I don't have lion and alsace for reference
Edit: I thought something light armor shred would work
Vanguard need Fire Extinguishers
is aurora worth investing in
She gets a dmg reduction for each unit on fire
is that gold torp good? i just got it yesterday
As long as the timings are ok, that might work. Try it and see. I doubt it one-shots, but you might 2-shot
Gold quad mags is kinda the default for auto teams
They are very good torps
I know for a fact I cant one shot haha
where should i use it on? DDs or CAs
Your highest-damage torp user
I am missing Lion Alsace and Trafalger. Also, even if I did have em, Chapayev, and eldridge retro are nowhere near ready.
I am basically lacking everyone for the one-shot comp haha
Its the default for all vanguards with torp slots. With exceptions to units that want fast ones like Anchorage for skill proc
who even uses eld for yuudachi
Don't look at this game in terms of hull type; different ships have different specialties
I saw it in a video so idk.
i do know z52 is suchiguma's 3rd vanguard though (I don't have her too)
bro has nothing 💀
Crazy right? I take my first long break in all my years of playing azur lane and every good ship for today's meta gets released in that window
why is it?
Even worse for people like me who started couple months ago and non of the top picks are even a option
i mean its either skill issue or skill-unissue
skill issue for people who die fighting yuudachi or skill-unissue for people who already do enough damage to use their previous fleet from kwkz meta
there're only 2 copies of I-404 I could get from the event?
Will Scylla's airstrike damage buff stack with AVP and Kazagumo's, hypothetically?
Yes
ok this might be the fleet that helps me 2 shot then
I just remembered a glaring problem
Womp
Question. Since yuu meta applies a special burn, does laff 2's 15% burn damage reduction help against that?
wat this? i think i will skip this until i strong enough tho
Yuu Metas dmg isnt that bad. Running Anchorage Helena and Harbin with just toolboxes at 120 they last entire fight with zero heals
With NJ Enty and Warpsite retro as backline
Basically either use the fleet that was used by Fighting Kawakaze META works with Yuudachi META by Using Eldridge or just use the current one but without using Eldridge and Fire Supressor existing as the key...
The Latter is doable and the usual for this META Fight
but the former can be used if kills the boss enough
i dont have metas only Hakuhou
I mean I also only started taking the game somewhat seriously during mid 2023
And the whole time I had to play catchup on missing ships and whatnot, and only got good thru the help of alo gph and outside sources
I just played this year so i have to catch up a lot of URs 
it's pretty necessary in yorkii comps
good yorkii comps
What? Please elaborate
also holy balls that fleet is terrible, give this guide a read ASAP
https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/#gear_lab
Of the Gear Lab priorities, is there any that are higher priroity than others in the red tier? For what it's worth, I have the Raff and Lion guns, so maybe I don't need the Triple 406 Mk 7.
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
Ah, thanks. Should I sort by "New Player"?
unfortunately not all "high priority" gear are equal because some have more impact when compared to next best relative to the cost
Mk7 is actually not that high at all
I guess a better question is, am I still considered a new player?
Yeah, that's part of my question, of the high priority items, which are the higher? I assume main fleet gear is generally higher priority than vanguard gear.
I'd probably make 457 before Mk7 if you didn't already get the proto core copy
do you still need to pick "optimal" gear lab crafts instead of making whatever you want
Yes.
and also what is the material you're shortest of
because if it's electronics Tenrai and Wyvern will add more
nnt is 300 electronics a lot
idk what i did wrong but im kinda leveling on the 300ish bar for the past year lol

I haven't crafted anything yet because I'm paranoid about wasting resources.
make planes first
wyvern will take your rainbow designs too, assuming you're using the selectors
arguably even rainbow AA is more impactful
(and again, takes electronics)
How big of a jump is the wyvern compared to the berguet?
AA performance is probably not that dissimilar but surface damage wyvern has 4 torps and each torp does more
if specific to using in ch15 some people do prefer breguet because of timing
Just wanted to make sure it was a purple mk6 to the rainbow mk7 situation where its only a slight jump overall
in terms of gear that use electronics/rainbow designs Mk7 is the smallest jump from next best
Cause right now im working towards building twin 457 but can grab 2 berguets from core shop or craft just the single wyvern. Doing that will set me back for a while on getting 457
you're crafting 1 457 and geting 1 from shop right?
Buying tenrai BPs first from proto shop
just grab 457 from protocore shop later, craft wyvern first
Already got 2 champ and one flandre gun
optimal gear routes 
craft wyvern first if you don't have any wyverns yet
Reading helps lol
457 can wait
i never had guides back in my day
for most part it's just the best 14/15 mobbing gun
ECTL had my back
and this was the result of it 
Ill go ahead a grab wyvern then. Is the gold twin BB gun right before the rainbow a decent sub option for it? Looks like similar characteristics
Just for mobbing that is
wyvern is a UR plane isn’t it?
those who know
ectl made me raise percy
mk4? mainly only used for pvp lul. if you need AP gun just use your champ/flandre
mk2/6 is still fine for mobbing up to w13 ish
I still remember the days I used Mk4 on DoY
Yeah the mk4. I seen it had the 10% dmg boost and im not getting a 5th salvo off so not worried bout the debuff lol im working on getting gear for 14. If that gives any context
you do know mk4 is still used
for what
there's no need to rush running ch14+, just take your time with it
just use flandre
i lowkey think i EN'd
this guy can't read :reallymad:
Oh im not trying to really rush just trying to actually spend limited resources on the most worthwhile gear
and you can run 14 without 457s
-# instructions unclear brought in actual ship instead of gun
if you have musashi you can outright skip the 457 hehuehue
also not rly gph , but pvp channel takes balls long to reply, so does the +1.5 seconds to all load times in PvP fights or is it insta load at 5:00
Ive got 2 white and one black shells from core shop so trying to focus on CV gear for the time being minus the major upgrades like rainbow 457
fairly sure PvP is insta
get a third white
but keep in mind your timings may still be off because FT doesn't apply
nice
i was gonna test fleets against either bucher or silken so i was worried load times will be skewed if i dont add some variable
3rd white and berguet? Got 2k core atm
sure
Torp planes are by far my weakest. Other than 1 wyvern now and the new gold plane next best options are gold cudas
Speaking of planes. What is best option for heavy boss setup for hakuhou second plane slot? Thats not rainbow? My smooth brain ass feels like it supposed to be a IJN plane
you can consider making 2nd wyvern and grab another breguet, can mix with gold cuda if still needed, or get more breuget 
helldiver
honestly i'd get independence
helldiver is a goated purple plane
wyverns are a fairly large upgrade over breguets
and breguets are a fair bit better than other gold parallel tbs
This is my current CVs. Is independence still a must grab with what I have?
Someone here before told me to not worry about her
i kinda shill independence to be honest i think she's the best core data option thats only limited by the fact that all your retrofit bps are going to unicorn/helena/starter dd first
im not sure if thats the generally accepted advice
My argument would be she isn't a must grab for you. Still the best core data ship option by far, but I'd more highly prioritize gears you'll use and cogs.
it's a slightly faster barracuda with intercept, it's much better if it's 13+ but otherwise it's the same ballpark
Independence is indeed still a great option
but the urgency to get her kind of depends on how quickly you can retrofit her
Yeah i feel fleet wise im good for time being. Gear is just major lack on all sides. And I wouldn't be able to retro her anytime soon due to finishing ark and working on AvP right now
Hard mode farming is focused for eld retro atm
then yeh no rush to get Independence
How big of a prio is it to +13 a berguet? So far only gear ive +13 is one champ gun a flapjack and the wyvern now.
Cause second wyvern will be a hotmin ive zero rainbow papers and 3 rainbow selector papers right now
have you gotten all your windfall ones from the data logger things
if thats what they're called i forgot to be honest
0% prio to +13 them
+13 spearfish isnt even a thing unless you pvp
people don't +13 campaign specific gear
/plus13
Not sure exactly what you referring to tbh
the non renewable ones you get
These?
Classified Files Mission Logger
From the Voucher shop I assume.
these guys
pvp mentioned
Oh yeah I bought all i could. I started opsi late last month do wasn't able to many of them
each one is a one time rainbow selector at the end
if you are a normal person, never +13 spearfishy
he +13'd a wyvern 
Not for me, I already have hte points necessary, but is it possible to get I-404 if you start now? I mean start the event, not the game
you can get 404 the last hour
How woudl you get I-404 that fast?
the minigame gives like 105 instantly
actually this minigame actually requires you to play it
SP has some, daily missions, minigame
but yeah the only thing you lose out on for the i404 grind if you miss days is the 5 from sp and 5 from daily mission
you may havae to buy a handful of vouchers but getting first copy of 404 from now is quite easily achievable
Don't even have a spearfish to +13 lol
Is +13 wyvern a bad investment? I assumed it would be a good one since its regularly rated best parallel torp plane
not really worth it to +13 campaign gear
it's a bad investment because it's only used in campaign and in many cases already overkill even without the 18% more damage
the gear i've ever used gold plates on for campaign is hedgehog
Which minigame gives 105 points?
the one minigame, run it to its end
brother the game has a list of all the ways to get points for i-404
it doesn't give all 105 in 1 clear
are there any contents that is doable with double Skyraider? or is it as either coping or situational as the 460mm BB gun?
actually since the minigame this time doesn't "end" the vouchers should just be embedded all over the minigame achievement missions
yorkii really appreciates double skyraider
Sadly she is the only one who is doable with that I guess?
Well if +13 wyvern is on my only gold plate mistake I'll take it lol flapjack and champ gun are good investmentments to +13 tho right?
flapjack no
champagne gun yes
but champagne gun has recently been 1-upped by meck gun, though meck gun is very expensive, so take what you will with that
meck gun is just research tho
like they said earlier, you usually don't +13 campaign equipments, unless its for bosses specifically (or so it seems)
Is it worth to +13 my second champ or flandre? And its gonna be a while for the meck gun. Ive only got 6/50 for it
generally skyraider is a timing issue, it's just too slow
Wouldn't flapjack be good for first slot on enty for bosses?
no
also being a DB isn't helpful, if I remember correctly it gets screwed by DB AVI scaling, not to mention being a rocket plane by large it's not going onto heavy fleets either
the fighter bombs are not very impactful against bosses, if you want to +13 fighters it's usually going to be rocket fighters
Gotcha. Only rocket plane i have is one BF109
if you're not sure what to do with your gold plates just don't use them
I was basing the flapjack off the suchi guide having it second best for heavy
gold gear are 120 plates a pop and rainbow 360 a pop, so saving them until you actually got a good use is fine
Ive still enough to max tenrai when I get it and another gold in a week or so based off current income rate from them
the issue just being the only actually good rockets against heavy is the La-9, 2x1000lb bombs being second best for heavy is just because everything else is shit
gold plate income is fairly limited
La-9 is just available throu research right?
for now yes, it probably won't make it to lab for another 2-3 years
there'll be 1 copy in proto shop soonish
Assuming when that gets added it will take priority over buying tenrai bps?
personally no Tenrai is just generally more useful, La-9 is very specific to being in a fighter slot in an anti-heavy fleet
it's better than BFG for medium too but the impact is relatively less
if this might be the case,
I hope next time it won't be like +13 Dive bombers specifically like the Skyraider for example? or I might have missed something?
rocket fighters and converging TBs go first, if you have enough gold plates to spare after that sure I guess? I +13'd my Skyraider and ended up not having enough plates for my La-9 for a bit 
Does Hakuhou's vanguard buff also work across the fleet?
to be fair I also +13 a lot of shit I shouldn't be
are you referring to the yellow skill?
I don't see anything in her skill wording that limits her skill to any specific ship in the vanguard, unless you mean crossfleet, in which case she does not have crossfleet
at least you only +13'd 1 skyraider
you did 2 didnt you
I have been very hesitant to +13 anything minus the champ flap and now wyvern( I now know it was a poor investment)
Once I get tenrai in a week or 2 that will be safe and good choice to max out right?
and they're both sitting unused now, yes 
this was my depot a few hrs ago
can you guess where my plates went
spearfish for pvp
correct
I have a +13 spearfish even before it was a thing for PvP
now that I mention it the spearfish isn't even in my PvP fleet 
Im not trying to really push PvP tbh. Lack of lion is absolute pain i just do it for merit points for bulins right now. Is spearfish worth trying to get for outside of PvP or is the cheaper wyvern better
wyvern is cheaper and about as good
spearfish is fast and has rockets
Minimal cost to maximum performance is my goal for time being before I try going for the absolute best gear pieces. I can only only properly fully gear about a fleet and half atm with the 2nd/3rd best reccomened options
/gearlab
Rest is poverty/what i got equips
Ive been using sams list and suchis guide on what to focus on
just fight ez fleets
and youre in LE, free wins
you can get 80% of the rewards with a really bad fleet
spending any resources in pvp is honestly a waste from a progression point of view
Thats what I do. I've been finishing last couple weeks around 200ish. Just when options and no refresh is juts lion eld z52 laff2 fleets im screwed lol
Win rate is around 90%
most people intentionally have a bad fleet on defense because having a good pvp fleet is actively a negative until the last day or two
Does your defense fleet even effect anything?
no rewards for defense wins
Yeah im not super big into the PvP as a whole its a nice mode but just due to not having the best ships (mainly lion) and gear im not gonna bother pushing it hard at all. Im Happy with vice admiral rewards
if you just win, admiral of the navy is easy enough to get. free merit
even the sweaty people don't always consistently swap their fleets in and out every 2 weeks
I don’t even sweat
If you seen the fleet and gear im running being able to get and hold vice consistently is a achievement lol
it really just depends on your luck with opponents
i'd wager it's better to have a bad fleet the whole time than a good fleet the whole time
just refresh and hit easy def
that's what I think too, but some folks just leave the meta setup on the whole time
Yeah like my current list is 3 17k meta fleets and one 1k meme fleet lol

i mean mine is 3 wannabe metas and mafia
i see you have a type
Wasnt expecting to get called out but I'll accept it lol I am eagerly awaiting Indiana rerun regardless of gameplay performance
Indiana is actually one of the better gold BBs nowadays
2 amogus
it's just gold BBs among rainbows
Honestly really glad to hear that lol I got lucky with Oumi and Owari being solid gold BBs and I just dont have rainbows other than permanents
according to stig Oumi is current gold top, I think Owari is also slightly better than Indiana, but is definitely on the more useful end of gold BBs nowadays
Im currently lvling her to 120(118 currently) right now and shes honestly been surprisingly solid compared to NJ Warpsite Georgia(fatesim) and they few others ive been using
I know Unzens rerun is coming soon. Is there any predictions on who should be rerunning after that?
ur reruns are basically always in order but the other reruns have been swapped around a bit. I think after unzen is going to be guam laffii rerun for URs
when is the winter pathfinder rerun 
Glad alsace doesnt seem too far off. I dont see Soyuz mentioned much. Does she got a special niche?
they announced 2 reruns on JP stream didn't they
soyuz is glued to nakh in the game rn for complete endgame
I think pathfinder is already archived
she's also just a really good anti medium bb too though
i guess yeah i need the equip from that event though
they're really bad at adding gear for archived events
How does it normally get added once they archive it? Gear lab or RNG farming on the archive map?
ah fool's scales rerun is coming soon™ too after unzen
either gear lab or core shop
depends on the gear
HVAR plane is one im wanting the most just due to lack of other decent options for light armor CV loadouts
please don't tell me you're trying to find gear from winter pathfinder
ifykyk
it'll be map drop in archive at least, we don't know if it'll show up in shop or gearlab
Event ends today?
wednesday
Why maint today
devs on holiday
no it ends later this week, this is an extra maint to add the island shit they couldn't make it in time for last week, as well as memory leak fix (hopefully)
the only piece of gear we're really waiting on now is AFCT but yeh
Thats the rainbow table right?
How do I understand gear choices
Like what is good gear to use while grinding for best gear
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
what do you mean by grinding gear
to some extent yes
just make sure you're not farming map drops
Ok
most of the best gear takes time but it's through systems like research and gear lab, which is just part of the gameplay loop but you may want to learn how to use efficiently, there's very little instance where you'd "actively" grind or farm for gear
Oh
at a certain point you realize you're farming opsi for gold plates and the gear mats are incidental
Do you ever stop lacking the lightbulb panels?
eventually. it will be the most needed one initially
electronics is used the most among useful lab gear but eventually you'll be crafting less
Also this may be a dumb question but before I found the guides I had bought the rainbow torp aux from the shop. Is that just primarily for subs or is it a good second slot for torp focused DDs like shimakaze for example?
Just to maximize torp dmg
good if they dont die
mostly on surface torp focused boats submarines usually want snorkel + hull design
sometimes subs can forgo a snorkel because of skills though
I just seen in the 404 build guide so was kinda curious on it and Haven't seen it on the gear guides
404 has like 60 more effective oxygen than usual or something
speaking of subs @sweet delta you don't need pressure hull for 95kai on 404?
hull has never done any good for 95k except rarely better timing
95k has longer range or something?
oxy oxy in general or snorkel oxy if youre opsi and the boss survives for that long
so assuming cost is no issue just load up with 95k95k9393?
So this would be a decent gear setup for Shimakaze assuming shes not dying right?
9595f8f9393
if you have any hazemeyers/staags that'd be a better AA gun for Shimakaze
the main gun is wrong
Gun is a just there cause z46 gun is on someone im leveling currently.
Depot space is running low lol
gun should be blue 76
/wiki 50 cal
Is that just for a skill proc?
barrage
barrage is technically a skill 
just fit gear that's worth keeping but not being used on ships you're not using
So this would be a proper setup for auto?
Also they need to fix the Screen scaling lol
oxytorp is kinda reccomended against because a ship does 0 damage if its dead and shima usually overkills mob trash
-# I can't believe you guys aren't recommending a 550 gear smh
i recommend goldburn
-# 550 gear meantioned!
i recommend 2nd toolkit
Oxy is there cause I bought it thinking rainbow is best when I started before finding guides lol its gonna get moved to 404 once I start building her
-# 2nd toolkit also good
wait cmdr 200 is already reached?
sorry, you found my alt acc
mutsukiwhere
not even 100% winrate what a noob

is this real 
is it really one player
How exactly do you determine if a ship needs the blue 76 instead of the other DD gun options? Trying to learn so I dont have to ask every time lol
math
you can estimate it by checking the AoA strength or skills, but you cant be sure until someone calculates or tests
Is there a active list of ships that prefer the 76?
I have a feeling there's a few im using that should be using that instead and I suck ass at math
maint time has been wierd lately, just to be sure, hakuhou banner is still up for 4 more days yeah?
3 more
alright, same thing, its timeone
3 more reset 
Lenja and Kaza had the other listed DD options... I do see the note at end bout the last using twin 100kai. Is that only scyla or the last few as well?
scylla
all the odd maints confuses me a bit 
@sweet delta actually what's the difference in damage between 76 and 100kai on scylla for 80/90s/whatever time you tested on?
they're doing maint early because they're adding the island shit that didn't make it into last week's maint coming Thursday is a Chinese holiday
it's actually this wednesday
the actual public holiday is Wednesday but usually it's a whole week off for non-essential businesses
somethingsomething golden week
yes after rereading what you say make sense, the usual maintenance on thursday falls on the 1 week holiday
azur lane is an essential business
should i use oumi for my hakuhou, shinano team
what carries over to the next month in OpSi?
she has no synergy with them
really?
effectively nothing, shit either converts to vouchers or they just disappear completely
ah ok so none of the ap packages or health packages or anything?
none of it
ok good to know, ty
and those things specifically also don't convert to vouchers either so they're just lost if not used
AP you should try to use up as much as possible
repair packs are just there for nothing anyway if you don't need to use them
for campaign? sure. it's good for hakuhou's skill
yeah ive used all my stuff trying to clear everything as much as i could, i just got the main boss yesterday and im going through and clearing hidden zones, im down to C3s now
yea i’m farming campaign rn, if not her who would use assuming those are your only URs
UR is generally pretty good but most of them require specific setups or are really good in only specific situations from what i can tell.
you can use them together
sometimes its better to use a gold then a UR, just depends on the situation. what chapter?
hell no, most URs are beyond busted at multiple things
for classes like BBs, they are near unmatched
Kears is the only one you have to bendover backwards for 
Hakuhou team
shrug then i stand corrected. UR are best in all situations no matter the context. better?
no
I feel that the original statement you made was more accurate tbh
Although the cases where the SR may be better than the UR aren't exactly numerous
Those cases are almost entirely healing or buff/debuff related
No UR gonna replace Unicorn role, at least for now
Even then there's a fair amount of URs with good Utility such a Traf, Laffey, Eldrige, and z52
~~only really lacking a proper ARA specialist ~~
kearsarge
Would rather use Kazagumo
everyone hates benson 
at least she has 1 skin lol
reminder: maint in 1 hour
yeah, that's why I was asking
I think she has a cross buff if the wording is like that
Oumi Ship Review: https://youtu.be/Bauhn0WyIlA
Disclaimer: Do not expect this kind of performance from Oumi against every boss.
0:00 Oumi vs NJ/FdG
2:48 MAX DMG Oumi
what could this be
Dang she can out damage NJ?
Ou mi gawd
1.2million (theoretical) is nuts for a gold bb
Also, would anyone know if this is ever gonna get added to the core shop?
I am curious why the cross bow is only +9 in the test. Any particular reason for rhat?.
+10 will reduce dmg vs Light
yeah my Oumi is by far my strongest unit, she was doing about 90% of my damage before i started really building the rest of my fleet
so only +9 to get the fp as stat stick
woah, is this what i think it is
i can whale for affinity
instant oath full dock
Wouldn't increase her to possibly higher then against med and heavy then? Beating NJ even more?
no, nj is stronger at med and heavy lol
Good Afternoon, I'll just ask tips on how to beat said METAs given...
Ark Royal, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Repulse and Renown?
Sorry I just need a subtle tip despite being lazy to try
dont be too happy, she's strong but not that strong
and notice the dps drop if you dont own a mog gun
Not doing Rodney and QE for now because I either don't have time for the timing part on Rodney's or no Wichita Meta for QE Meta's
yes but apparently you can only buy 1
1 a season prob
they're only selling 1, for now
*slightly p2w affinity 
bruh
Which of these are worth doing for actual usage, and which ones are purely for collection?
i use kirov meta to kill hard arbiter in one strike
basicalaly none of them in general though
kirov onestrike is a rather specific comp and kirov isn't the only thing you'll need to set it up
its one thing
How about Jintsuu meta? She's the one I am currently grinding out so I didn't include her in the list
keep in mind oumi also steals mog gun from vanguard so she's better on paper than in practice (still very very strong for a gold)
good for pvp and some EX
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uz0UvQHsVUrlNz08Pc1IN04oABfMeiXTngfM8XJzRXo/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.r77po4nhidlp
doesnt have repulse or renown, unfortunately
META Chronicle Pilica 11/09/2025 Introduction - PLEASE READ As the title indicates, this, when completed, will be a chronicle of all the META Showdown fights from the inception of the game mode until the present day. It consists of my (relatively) short notes on each fight, breaking down the c...
a lot of them give really good tech
So it's ideal to max them out?
who is oumi stealing the mog gun from in practice ?
my laffeyII in pvp
Eldridge, maybe
z52,traf ply doesnt need mog guin

if you own mog gun, you likely have alsace lion. would you look at oumi?
yes
so in a fight where eldridge's vanguard durability boost isn't a concern then it works on Oumi, but Oumi is winning on light and many of our light METAs tend to be a bit hard on the vanguard
i look at her everyday
^^^
and yes if you have a mog gun you also likely don't need Oumi
Is oumi worth building if I don't have Lion and Alsace but I do have nearly every other UR bb?
good +2FP, still would build
if u have the rest then they r still pretty good
oumi is someone you build for fun as lategame player
but zwei soyuz vanguard easily shit on oumi for you, no reason to use her
FP tech good, but also just nice as something to carry your fleet without wasting XP, before she gets maxed
I have only Zwei and Vanguard in that list haha
But both are 120 already
mori dislikes oumi 
don't have Lion and Alsace but I do have nearly every other UR bb?
so this is a lie
Nearly

missing some rather important ones
Soyuz where
inb4 he only has zwei vanguard nj musashi
Ive said it before. My breaks were super poorly timed XD
no i think she's really great. just that her strength comes from having a strong DD gun, which most new players don't have. it gives a false impression
As someone with only
NJ MLB and one of 2 URs at MLB Oumi is still a absolute win lol
dw i quit azur lane after failing to pull yorktown 2 in 10 pulls
which lead to the great PSI rerun farm
I am basically missing ALL the important ones at this point
NJ UvH Vanguard Musashi Zwei Soyuz Alsace Raff Lion
I'm not sure your definition of nearly is the same as mine
Probably since I am missing everyone to the right of Zwei XD. But I mean, I am trying to make my current roster work
I am just happy to have come back in time for Haku and 404. I am so behind on URs its insane.
actually I've never read Oumi's skills let me do that now...
Mind me asking, what is Soyuz's main strength?
ive used this event's ships once and that was for the missions
Nakhimov proc
She is the first of the URs that I don't have to be slated for a rerun
damage dealer
usual catalyst for nakhimov's freeze skill
good barrage
A prio pull?
well yes
u can pull every ship in this game
I mean she's the banner UR of her event
her rerun isn't coming till like around April next year, just make sure you don't overspend on other banners
I don't intent to
famous last words until he sees Tokisaki Kurumi's bikini skin
I was never too into date a live so we will see
Bro, that was nice
I'd like the skins to be something with a bit less skin for once but we all know what happened to the last collab that did that
Which one?
nevermind I guess SSSS also wasn't too revealing
idolm@ster

Idolmaster wasn't hated because the skins weren't lewd. A lot of people were angry you couldn't oath the ships
lore accurate gameplay
I don't think EN particularly followed im@s that die-hard to begin with
Personally, I'd LOVE more skins like Bunker Hill's gamer skin: more casual, less revealing outfits
I agree but unfortunately most of the fanbase clearly disagrees
That also seems to be a growing sentiment, at least amongst the EN community. I don't know how it is on other servers.
To just nip the issue in the bud before we spiral into off topic
Yeah, I'm done, sorry
If the casual skins were more popular they would sell better than the lewd ones
Well if you're not satisfied just use your wallet to vote
That's what I'm doing at least
Or rather don't use it I guess in this case
Quick question, is there any info on the event after the current one? Is it the Unzen rerun immediately or is there something before it?
it depends but she is near her rerun
actually as far as I know the Japanese audience was split on that topic, some people liked/respected that decision but I guess we just have too many horny younglings who think it's bs
weibo was also filled with a lot of comments against it, but the trend felt more like astroturfing 
smh what's load out for Kearsarge vs light
Maintenance now?
Yes maint now
Feels so unusual, lol. Any reason?
Mk7 and rocketcat
Chinese holidays
plus a delayed implementation of island
I see thanks
Yeah. Two maintenance for 1 event. Feels too often
this is the 3rd lul
4th for a 3 week event
its the 4th counting the one before the event
2 maintenances between a 3 week event is fairly normal, this one is the third and the timing is weird because CN holidays
and having the island delayed didnt help
CN was supposed to get it thursday anyways
well there's also a memory leak issue, if not for these 2 we might gone by with no maint at all this week
And Anni's is always event-party skins-oath skin & QoL
not just memory leak, half the game is bugged
huh whats up
bunch of UI bugs all around
i was wondering it was a weird day to get maint notification
well there's also island update
the new island mini game within a game thing was supposed to get added last maint but they found bugs with it and didn't release it then
now they releasing it hence the new maint
alright
they either did maint last time or they do it after holidays, but they choose today so they have only 1+ days remained to fix bugs, hope programmers get a normal holiday
I guess all these maintenances are good for stocking up on oil at least.
By the way storing it is great and all but when is a good time to actually dip into the mail oil stockpile?
whenever you need it really. have some extra in stock for event just in case
but we've only ever had hvar and no other event that require extensive farming so all in all it's extremely rare
I spend oil faster outside of running events
baguettes were a thing back in the day even though it wasn't really that relevant, but yeh there's basically been no gear that warrants heavy farming besides that and HVAR to date
so the stocked oil is mostly for when and if another grind like that shows up, or you can occasionally spend some to push your PR XP, otherwise whenever you're doing serious leveling
depends how much oil in bank is safe/comfortable to you
When you're nearing those 600k you know it's time to use it
given the level of activity needed to stock 600k it's fairly safe to just convert all to curry
What about NJ Warchive for Rudder
rudder isn't exclusive to that and you'll run out of keys before you run out of oil
-# THERE ARE OTHER PLACES TO FARM RUDDER 
oh didn't know emojis can get smol either
you know it too mebot, it's called research
Wait we hab mainten? On Monday?
fake
stuff that didn't make it last week plus CN holiday
Okay. Wish I had known earlier coz I was planning to do Opsi after reset but guess that's out the window now. Kinda nervous coz I'm running out of time before month ending
dont worry theres still many hours left, and also it just doesnt matter
It wasn't planned on JP and EN, just CN. Wonder if we got maint if CN got it thursday
I at least managed to clear all the strongholds and also did one abyssal boss albeit using two regroup commands.
But I tried hardmode arbiter and just no chance even for first tier of rewards.
Dont really need to achieve much more there before end of month I think.
Mostly just been spamming the corrosion 1 zones for commander xp tbh, got commander lvl 80 now.
Where can you reasonably farm rudder?
Here is was hoping there was a stage i was unaware of that didnt require tickets
Hi, is there a ship for the Vanguard that can I use as slow support for my carriers?
sadly, like most things in this game it takes time
eldridge retro but it's not a replacement for AvP/implac
Okay, thank you
Wait danmachi?
im doing a royal navy fleet since i like the ships to, but fleet comp wise i got eq, illus, belfast, dido, warspite and san diego, but who should i replace san diego with?
did they say when maintenance is gonna be over?
read #game-news
so that's the ???
...I might need to come back to AL for both those collabs
Shit
I can get 1 copy of 404 by Thursday right

depends on how much did you miss
need some hard grinding these 3 days
3 days worth of daily mission+SP clear should give a lot, probably half of the required 200
What about the 1x missions
i forgot how many each
ender quit?
Do i get the oath skin as i give oath ring to a shipgirl or i have to buy it with gems afterwards?
You get the oath skin if the ship you oath has one
So if the ship has an oath skin it is free?
It would really suck if that wasn't the case. 600 gems for one ring then you have spend more gems on a skin after haha
Is oumi worth getting?
yes
Do you have a lot of the recent UR BBs? Then she's not needed. Otherwise, yeah, she's good -- really good
Like in situations outdamaging the lower end UR BBs
She outdamages NJ I believe
Uhh i have lion and hakuhou are those bb i cant tell
Lion is hakuhou is not
against light only I think
Best Gold BB ingame so
good to have her just as a backup
if you have all the UR BBs setup then no you don't, but if you have all of them you probably don't lack cubes
You have about 4 days. If you have 0 cubes, better pray this new game mode gives hundreds, or you get lucky.
If you’re on 0 coin and at least w9/D, then probably.
That’s meant to be an or. Campaign w9+, or Event D stages.
Banner’s gone in 4 days, anything in 9 days is gonna be kinda useless ain’t it?
pre-patch is live for the people that care
game will still be down for roughly 3hrs though
Some people might need a while lol its 3.3gb for me
Wait.
WHAT?
I don't have Oumi. do I roll for her or not??
I have ~520 cubes
she out damages NJ lmao
not consistently
also she will almost never outdamage NJ if you are missing mog DD gun
doigetoumiornot i have lion and bisz as my UR BBs currently
is she worth dumping cubes into
I've already done roon, st Louis, FdG, Cheshire, Anchorage, Hakuryuu, Ägir, Plymouth, Shimanto and Admiral Nakhimov, which ship should I research next?
I mean they just confirmed a Danmachi collab for this year
do you have implacable?
Not if you have lion
On top of the Date a Live collab which is also later this year
eh oumi is good if you want to get her but if you have lion and zwei she's pretty redundant and 520 cubes for you is not a lot. We will get a collab before december ontop of another collab so ur kinda cooked with 500
i seee.. better to save then
and rember collabs rerun like once every 1 - 2 years only and only once
after a collab reruns once its most likely just gone
"ur kinda cooked with 500"
I thought i had a good amount shut up!!! 💔
you ruined me and i hate you now
500 is like baby level of collecting levels
I spent over 500 pulls in multipe major event, pulls not cubes
its really annoying but it is what it is
noshiro mu took me 300 pulls, one of the collabs took me 400 something

waitso. we have two collabs and unzen rerun?
Yep
You'd be lucky if they rerun at all
im so fucked
yes, all before the UR at december
DateALive DanMachi and Unzen rerun lol
im extremely fucked
oh wth no breaks at all
i mean, i reaaaaally doubt danmachi one is gonna be an event collab
We both fucked dont worry. Oumi took way too many cubes for me
sounds like 5k gems worth of skins lol
bet it's something like BRS format
if it's even in this year
i got haku in 41 pulls and stopped sooo, i retained most of my cubes
but im still fucked regardles
Who knows at this point
actually maybe danmachi is just another skin collab
also wtf i'm dead??
you were
I wanted Oumi above Hakuhou and ended up with 4 copies of Haku with one being a pity before she showed up
gee who wouldve thought
who resurrected me, put me back
Saratoga
Nope
oh my god 😭
Double collab November
then I'd suggest getting August von Persival
-# butchered her poor name
percy 
did I 
parseval
dam 
one letter off for a german name, close enough
August von Pserahgoadaval
NOOO 😭
was this as response to my qeustion :)?
yes, who else if not you
idk
, but i dont have those ships im only lvl 53 
so any recommends thats more reasonable ?
Faction fleets usally suck unless you have very specfic ships like he posted above
yes, dont faction fleet

aww man
so bigger booba fleets?
faction fleets are good when you have the 6 most broken ships inside the faction
hmm that kinda seems a waste tbh
When will oumu be available again?
makes qe kinda pointless since shes faction based right?
+2 years
Really?? That long?
QE is pointless, yes. with or without buff
Is there a broken Eagle Union faction fleet setup?
america fuck yeah
How come its that long
So go for vanguard pulls replace qe asap got it
ask the dev, that's their rerun schedule. 2 years for rerun, another year for archive
Any reasonable subs for Yk2?
enterprise
So does my pity get saved in a limited banner?
i made those for fun, faction UR fleet
Once guam reruns then i can acutally build that one]
So all my cubes spent in that banner is poofed, gone forever???
Yep unless you hit pity. hence why every says stop pulling when you get one copy of each
limited UR banner*
non UR banner will accumulate on your permanent UR exchange counter
i get mentally flashbanged when i see guns on NJ
idk why. my brain is hardwired to think NJ is a CV??
Hi , what are some good ships to run with I404 in a fleet ?
When is heavy/special construction pool suspected to change
6 or 8h?
8
So like another 1h10min left I think.
if it was 6 maint would have ended like 50 mins ago
well how would i know if i didn't have the game open
It is in #game-news
"island_season_window_rule": {
"tip": "1. At the end of a season, the resources in your warehouse will be automatically converted to IDP, and you will be placed on the development ranking accordingly. Additionally, the contents of your temporary warehouse will be cleared, and all active requests, transport commissions, food production, and character assignments will be reset.\n2. When the season finishes, you will be unable to claim development and milestone rewards from the season that just ended.\n3. When a new season begins, your Island Development Points (IDP) will automatically reset."
},
competitive ranking 
thanks for reminding me, i need to check if my tooling broke
Seasonal? Whadahell
OPSI 2.0
Can I ask again if Maintenance ends within less than an hour or its extended?
we'll only know if it's extended close to the end, but it should end in less than an hour if not
yes it's until jan next year, it's in patchnotes
the controls are so wonky 
car
whats cooking gph
An Island... 40 degrees so far
Hay hay,,, what's this 2.8 update????
I haven't been playing lately cause I already got the new UR...
So, did I miss anything
I'm gonna blame Taiho for this extended maint

I really need to sleep. I hab work in few hours
Game isn't going anywhere...
Another 1 hours💔💔
A question. If I delete the data from Private Quarters I'll still retain my progress right?
should, since your jsut deleting the asset
Did cn servers open?
CN is hours ahead
when they say IDP can be exchanges for resources, do we know what that means? is it like gear lab prints or something?
Just tickets. Do NJ Warchive. This game rewards consistency. Using HELP makes you get rudders so mich faster than just research.
how did you get so many gold plates WTFFFF
I used ALL the selectors for general plates lol
I have enough washing machine bps to exceed that
ship girls hungry, coms waiting to be claimed, research que finished 
apologems maybe?
I think we have to go for another hour for that can't remember
100 (Probably)
Theyre like cats, total drama queens, 5 seconds late to fill the food bowl: omg you're starving me to death this is against the geneva conventions.
I know we have the plus13 command, but is there even a priority to it? or just do as needed? I already have tb's and champy/flandre +13, and wondering about auxes like radar/shells/rudders/cata's etc
Siren killed Geneva (convention)
The priority there is on a per plate basis
Keep picking gun or plane when you have a choice, there's enough randoms to max the auxes you need
T4 part scarcity leads to priority 
If you're asking how many of each to +13 before moving to the next priority, then there is no English guide for that
Is there in other languages
Not exactly, mainly wondering if there is a priority to the plate categories on the chart I suppose. Like am I wrong to assume white shell has higher prio than HSFCR or is that not how it's supposed to be read?
It's read top to bottom, so white shell is indeed higher than HSFCR
ok that makes sense, thanks 
But I think that is assuming you will have 2 or 3 AFCTs sometime soon
HSFCR is a better +13 than white shell if you will use it for a long time, but it's a transitional gear
I wouldn't +13 more than 1 HSFCR
oh I see, that's good to know. but it's still unknown whether they will release the AFCT right?
Unknown when
Of course it's you with the shitton of rudders
Is server up
not yet tm

they havent released the patch either since last extension so maybe even more delayed
my server is still down

11 hour maint let's go
but i can download 3.3gig while i wait
Gonna have to go full WiFi master for PvP
There's no extension duration this time!
I guess Ill check back tomorrow lol.
smallest of violins for PvP players
2000 apologems plus 1 skin 
no
even when the servers were down for an entire day the best we got was an oath ring
1 more than 0 I’ll take it
I think maint has to go over 3 or so hours before the devs compensate players with not just dorm food, oil, and coin
so how much cog do we get daily with the new island mode
well anyway the bar is Microlayer before I actually get worried 
Ill take that tbh
yeah better than nothing
30 dockspace pls
5 is ok too
when will plygun be added to lab
maybe dec/jan
so if im low on mats, maybe a third spearfish is not a good idea
specifically rainbow ordnance will be a problem
yea.... i have 2 and 9 craftable
yeh I can only craft maybe around 9 q152s with my current stock 
3 BB light guns if I don't have lions gun should I make another NJ gun?
Biz/soyuz/vanny
just use mk6
Kk
Is the only way we know to uninstall the island resources just reinstall the game and choose not to download the island resource?
Didn't see a way to opt-out of downloading it in the update
Of course you will dl more stuff then 
I can eat the time cost, I'm just wondering if that's the only way 
There might be an uninstall button for those assets in settings
I'll check them later when the maintenance is over then, thanks
1 hour left until i eat shit and die
Confirmed 1h 1m+ maint extension 
why is there a 3.3gb update?
New game mode
👀 . wat
what is it ?
Hm. Well 3D mode with chibi 3D models
Yeah just read the patch notes
anniv event didn't end. right?
Nope
aight cool i didn't finish yet
how long is it usually between collab announcement and the event itself?
They are in november
yo, this new mode have some type of reward that is something ? like plates oil or whatever
I know this is a vague question that is dependent on a lot of factors that I'm unable to specify at the moment, but generally speaking, are carriers able to do as much damage as BBs? My BB's usually do more damage, but they have access to better gear at the moment. And I have UR BBs and no developed UR CVs. So I can't really test for myself.
EDIT: I guess asked another way, how would the damage from a maxed Lion compare to maxed Hokuhou?
EDIT EDIT: maybe I'm not even comparing the right ships...
Affection
You wanna bet they do 2 new collab events simultaneously
cvs require more investment with plane setups
~~No complains with Atelier... or the busywork was complain
~~
Why a 3rd spearfish?
opsi mob cooks and it looks cool
Free gems say no more
fair enough
Tickets that glitter like the stars. Can be used to draw prizes in the Stellar Prize Draw. When the current run of the Stellar Prize Draw ends, any Stellar Tickets left over will be automatically used to draw prizes or be converted to Gems.
you can also just buy 50 affection for the low low price of 600 gems

Is it known yet if the new island feature will be worth its download size, or is it another Private Quarters type of thing?
50 is a lot better than 10
u mean by maint extension time, or by playing it constantly ?
what does affection do
the latter
affinity
whats the conversion
affinity and affection are the same thing
I'm not sure if this is the appropriate channel but
can i change my account from global to japan server since I want to purchase items in jpy?
now things start to be something else ...
i can choose who its gone be there or i'm forced to several ones ?
It's affinity, if its called affection somewhere notify the devs
i just responded to alpha's question
Drad, 8x on the wiki page
you can agree in #game-feedback
Im afraid
this channel isnt the place to do it
i hope it is up soon. i got 3000 opsi points to grind by tomorrow
rookie numbers.. im absolutly cooked
This isn't a complain channel 
Prepare your shit
that's when the maintenance begins
Well, Alpha, it's time... Manjuu been waiting for this.

how nice of the devs to gift 10 dock space
ngl wish i could delete the assets for the island planner lol
You can
im pretty sure you can
doesn't the Island stuff give you resources?
yes it does
is colorado retrofit any good?
do you have nelson retrofit?
i have nelson
nelson retrofit is better for the same cost
alr
when is unzen rerun again
no date announced
it's only announced that it'll "happen"
god damn it
ty anyway
So, where is the exit button from the new mode?
how do people know when a UR is worth LB if theres multiple options
they estimate whats more worthwhile based on their subjective view
are they perma or limited
backliner or frontliner
what else do you have
how good are they
in that order
how to get out of island planner?
i see, i have enough for 1 but idk if i should use it on haku or grab one of the perma URs n use on em
if they are perma you dont use UR bulins on them
i keep seeing people mention a re run as well which isnt helpin

