gameplay-help

[faint bobcat]

If you're farming the hard maps for the event you should be getting better returns than most standard world maps though right?

[cobalt rapids]

its a straight upgrade to ryuusei, same timing more dmg

[faint bobcat]

Varrry similar, but better

[vivid nebula]

Is the update big because of the private island stuff?

[violet grail]

I dont even meet the stat requirements for D3 event map yet, only have 1 fleet. Maybe I could try some C maps.

[vivid nebula]

Or is there something I missed in the patch notes?

[cobalt rapids]

taihou dorm 3d

[whole crypt]

more like just more damage

[gray sphinx]

Hmmm I see. I guess I could throw it on my bossing fleet depending on the context probably won’t be using it too often lol

[vivid nebula]

Is there actually any benefit to doing these? I have neglected it ever since it released

For the other ships*

[rain vine]

d3 is roughly around world 10 for exp/oil, so if you have w12, just farm 55k event currency and leave

[cobalt rapids]

the benefit is not in ingame rewards

[violet grail]

But maybe I should just save oil for whatever next event is. Ive got 2.5k oil stored in mail from previous maintenance that im not touching for now.

[vivid nebula]

Wdym?

Is it more of a personal treat if you like the ships?

[cobalt rapids]

something like that yes

[vivid nebula]

So I am not exactly losing out by not doing it, gotcha

How about that other thing where there's this like siren character (I forgot her name) that you raise and give routines to

[cobalt rapids]

same thing

[vivid nebula]

Gotcha

[faint bobcat]

They're both kinda like skins... good to look at but won't really help you progress the game

[vivid nebula]

Right. Well I am currently more gameplay oriented since I have catchup to do. Glad to know it isn't high priority

[rancid yarrow]

does anyone know if the event maps are unavailble after maintenance?

[cobalt rapids]

event still up

[vivid nebula]

They are still here you have a week

[rancid yarrow]

thanks

[vivid nebula]

On a different note, Mori said that Soyuz was the closest UR that I don't have to having a rerun. Is there anything noteworthy from her event's shop that I should prep oil to grind for?

[forest palm]

Soyuz's event just has the Mk1 which is medium specific...

[gray sphinx]

Well we still have to an unzen rerun first I think? At least that’s what I remember people saying

[vivid nebula]

Yes. I was referring to the URs that I don't have since I sent a screenshot earlier asking about rerun orders etc

[cobalt rapids]

theres unzen and then theres guam laffii and only after that soyuz

[split gazelle]

isnt soyuz gun for heavy too

[cobalt rapids]

soyuz gun is just a bit slower champy with a tad bit more med dmg and a tad less heavy dmg

[gray sphinx]

Guess there’s no breaks for me because I missed out on Guam and Soyuz event the first time around

[vivid nebula]

Yeah I have all them already. I'll just go for Unzen's gun and then evaluate the rest's respective shops

[cobalt rapids]

i mean its not like u have to stockpile oil just to clear important stuff in event shops

[vivid nebula]

After Soyuz, who is next

[cobalt rapids]

alsace/mogador

[vivid nebula]

YESSSSSSSSS

Then when does Z52 come back?

[forest palm]

the Mk1 is phased out by the Quad 305 either way

[cobalt rapids]

z52 and fritz are after amagi CV
i wouldnt expect em next year

[vivid nebula]

Was it Lion and Trafalgar together?

[cobalt rapids]

all the gold ap guns are phased out by the quad 305

[vivid nebula]

Right. Thanks, just planning my cube spread for the reruns

[cobalt rapids]

i mean thats a really long time for preplanning

[forest palm]

you really don't have to worry about cubes unless you're a collector

[vivid nebula]

I know but I want them

[vivid nebula]

I brought my collection from 74 - 78.3% in 3 months because I suddenly found an obssession for doing it

[cobalt rapids]

just daily cubes for around 2 months is enough to guarantee a UR

[wind hazel]

do you have Uranami?

[vivid nebula]

I went back for all the retrofits and map drop only ships

[vivid nebula]

I uh, don't remember

[wind hazel]

your collection energy will either 📈 or 📉 depending on whether you have her or not

[vivid nebula]

I remember having An shan and Fu shun though so I should have her????

[vivid nebula]

She's the one from that event that didn't rerun yet right?

[wind hazel]

ye

[vivid nebula]

Yeah I do have her

[wind hazel]

collection dream 📈

[vivid nebula]

As I said, I am an old player that just didn't do a lot right haha

[wind hazel]

alpha's bff

[vivid nebula]

Why hasn't this event come back though???

[wind hazel]

no idea really. dev casually forgot about her

[forest palm]

oh, right 120'd her like 3 months back

also shout outs to monthly ships that if you missed you were fucked

[vivid nebula]

Such as?

[wind hazel]

[forest palm]

I forgot when they stopped doing it, but it used to be that they released a low rarity ship every month. These ships would not circulate outside of this limited time period for months/years

[vivid nebula]

if it was pre-2024 I most likely do have them

I lost my will to play 2024-early 2025

[forest palm]

well ya cause what I'm talking about stopped about 4 or so years back, and all of those low rarity ships that were released month to month are long since perm

[atomic solstice]

wow having no oil sucks

[forest palm]

swip or touch grass

[atomic solstice]

i ate everything from my mail

[gray sphinx]

How 💀

[atomic solstice]

redownloaded

noticed you can store mail

[gray sphinx]

Okay but like did you quit hella early on? Cause I’ve been keeping mail for the longest time and now I have a good sum of oil. Probably like 100k

[atomic solstice]

if i have both floors of the dorm does buying a new slot unlock it on both floors?

[vivid nebula]

Yes

[atomic solstice]

fuck yea

[vivid nebula]

I had a 4 slot 1st floor and when I bought 2nd it turned to 8 slots

[gray sphinx]

Ngl if there’s anything I couldn’t live without it’s having all of the dorm slots available for my use

[atomic solstice]

im deciding if i should spend gems on dorm or dock space

[vivid nebula]

I have a good lump sum of oil

[atomic solstice]

i have 560 dock space and 6 dorm slots

[vivid nebula]

Dock if you are a collector

[split gazelle]

you only really need 6 dorm slots total

[gray sphinx]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[vivid nebula]

We have 600+ ships at the moment

[atomic solstice]

yeah that tracks

also i have to retire less when i grind if my docks is bigger :o

[wind hazel]

ngl but having 12 dorm slot is giga QOL...

[vivid nebula]

Diminishing returns after 6. I wish I could refund the extra one I bought, I was too uninformed to know

[gray sphinx]

It is

[wind hazel]

and you're only trading for 25 dock space, which is kinda small amount tbh

[vivid nebula]

I don't like having to feed them so often

[gray sphinx]

Then don’t. Starve them

[wind hazel]

bad owner

[gray sphinx]

I only feed my dorm once a day even though I could probably min max it to twice a day

[vivid nebula]

I am nearly out of naval curry

I had like 500 from what I remember. I have less than 150 now

[wind hazel]

just use cola

[atomic solstice]

more button presses :(

[vivid nebula]

but but but the xp buff :(((

[vivid nebula]

You can just hold it

[atomic solstice]

but it takes 3 more seconds

[gray sphinx]

This is the epitome of tiktok brain

[atomic solstice]

is it better to grind event d3 stage or campaign 12-4 stage when theres an event out?

[gray sphinx]

1000% D3 until you grab the important stuff from the shop. I tend to grind all the way to the second to last milestone on the event rewards but that’s just me

[rain vine]

event to 55k event currency
campaign afterwards

[rain bobcat]

55k event then 12-4

[atomic solstice]

oki doki

[robust nymph]

how long till maint is over?

im in japan rn and im confused a bit with the timings

[rain vine]

30 minutes

[robust nymph]

oh okay thanks

[forest palm]

EN is like 9 am ~ 11 am EST which translates 10 pm ~ 12 pm JST

tack on another hr for DST

[warm beacon]

It's still in maintenance it seems

[split gazelle]

nope, servers are online

[warm beacon]

oh yeah nvm i just restarted the game

[red sapphire]

Hi, is Unzen banner rerun comming?

[wind hazel]

SoonTM

[red sapphire]

Alright then

Ty

[blissful comet]

Ok. Am I crazy? How do you unlock a dance for Amahara sp stage? Cleared all the sorry nodes in the event and 3 starred other event stages but it keeps saying clear required stage

[wind hazel]

/hardmode clear D3

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[rapid summit]

When is amagi cv return expected to be?

[manic slate]

Anyone else having issues entering combat? Stuck on loading screen

[violet grail]

working fine for me

[wind hazel]

near end of 2026

[verbal plinth]

Ninja ui

[rapid summit]

NOOOOO

[verbal plinth]

Switch off it

[uneven knot]

did u guys farm to get the second copy of i404

[wind hazel]

yes, but accident

[manic slate]

That worked, I assume this a known bug?

[rapid summit]

Is Musashi supposed to be added in the pool in the next month or later?

[frozen stag]

is there like a tier list for gear like which ones are good gemerally and which ones are situational

[quasi bone]

having the same issue, it loads to 100% then gets stuck there.

[verbal plinth]

Ninja ui switch it

[quasi bone]

oh

[wind hazel]

this covers general use of gear https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

situational gearing require context, so there isn't really a guide for it

[frozen stag]

thanks i was looking for a gear guide after unlocking some bps from research

[split gazelle]

yeah looks like ninja ui is bugged even the preview is broken

[main mulch]

I have the same issue with going to UvH's archive and then clicking on the Oath Skin. It immediately turns black and I have to restart the game

[terse fern]

What is the current optimal submarine + equipment comp ? And what is the perfect equipment set for I-401 ?

[uneven knot]

still on chap 11 should i prioritize the ur twin 457, tenrai, or ur quad 152?

[vocal niche]

are there any expensive skins in 6.99$ pack ?

[sweet delta]

@terse fern Optimal depends on a lot of factors, but this is at least close to optimal. Also see https://youtu.be/1MhvKc4iZsU for all the information you need

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376280341337346220/1412140701126230118/image.png?ex=68d63143&is=68d4dfc3&hm=8c9af35fe347b0b16ea14dd38897d45b5e3496e1a5f7ea203291592b2051eec2&

[uneven knot]

saved ty

[sweet delta]

4 tiers from top to bottom. Minimum is the first you should get

[rapid summit]

What auxiliary should I put on a CB like Ägir?

[vivid nebula]

Evasion stuff iirc

This is currently how I have her setup (ignore that AA gun)

[rapid summit]

I definitely don’t have any of that

[vivid nebula]

and the torpedoes (I am out of the mag stuff)

[uneven knot]

is there a chart like this for gear lab stuff as well?

[vivid nebula]

I doubt this is anywhere close to optimal but she is certainly serviceable like this

[sweet delta]

Besides the terrible AA, you usually want fast torps like triple mag purple so she can slow bosses for main fleet

[late flame]

ah yes agir cope slow

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab/

[uneven knot]

ty goat

[vivid nebula]

This right?

Alright, now what AA gun do I replace the stop sign with

[late flame]

just use a roomba

[sinful socket]

the beaver medal you can get by limit breaking/leveling the beaver squad, it's in the memories section of the menu

[bright glen]

When will Blücher get a rerun? I've been waiting for 3 years now...

[ivory pawn]

You missed it.

Was around, Feb I think? Earlier this year.

[bright glen]

...

[ivory pawn]

Should hopefully be permanent early next year! 🤞

[bright glen]

Hopefully there's a wishing well event early next year then

[ivory pawn]

Blucher was the free ship, so you won’t need to wish at all.

[bright glen]

Wait what

[keen grove]

anyone else having issues getting into combat?

[cobalt rapids]

if u use the ninja UI swap to another one

[subtle flare]

what does the 30% mean?

[whole crypt]

I can't say for sure if she'll make the cut for CN anniv WW but otherwise you can wait for EN anniv next year

[keen sable]

bonus hp because of dd max limit break

[subtle flare]

oh, was this always a hidden buff or was it just added?

[woven star]

Some dd thing

[keen sable]

a few years ago in the greater than greatest rebalancing

[woven star]

Like spread torp or less AoA tick activation

[subtle flare]

oh.. i had absolutely no idea until now

[whole crypt]

it's been around for about 4 years, DDs get one of 3 bonuses when you MLB them, 30% more stats on aux being one of those 3

[subtle flare]

okay, thanks

[whole crypt]

Blucher was the shop/drop ship with no-rate-up build, there's a good chance she's going to heavy and not the shops

[keen sable]

they keep reskinning everything except the snail paced limit break text

[woven star]

Yeah, Eldredge was surprised for me too

AoA more often I think

[whole crypt]

fairly sure it was shortly after 14 launch so... 3-4 years?

I still remember it was something like "oh DDs are relevant now because ch14" before they added the buff

[heady igloo]

chat is this the best torp plane for mobbing?

[forest palm]

lol no

[heady igloo]

aside from the rainbow planes

[whole crypt]

no

[keen sable]

investment wise i would say no

[heady igloo]

any suggestions?

[forest palm]

Helldiver still better

[subtle flare]

barracuda good budget option

[whole crypt]

you tell me how to fit a helldiver in a TB slot

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#cv-airplanes

[forest palm]

oh wrong one

[whole crypt]

Barracuda good, Breguet is decent and still serviceable for ch15

[sweet delta]

Campaign = mobbing

[woven star]

Or baguette .. breguet

[heady igloo]

aight thanks guys ima just do some more research

[subtle flare]

you can also check this out
https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/

[whole crypt]

it's less of Skypirate being a bad plane and more of it being a deadend investment that you won't come back to, when it costs electronics that you'll need for every other plane (and eventually rainbow AA)

even on Independence that's going to buff it as an USS plane it's still worse than using a Wyvern

[forest palm]

in other words high quality bait

[whole crypt]

at least VIT-2 you can craft as a side product of doing research

[sweet delta]

Doing pr5 research

[whole crypt]

if anyone still pushing it for Plymouth I guess

[forest palm]

only reason to be in PR5

[whole crypt]

should pretty much at least have a copy or two of VIT-2 by the time you finish Plymouth even if don't do gear focus

[narrow kiln]

Can Elridge be effective as an off-tank?

[woven star]

Even main tank

[whole crypt]

kind of depends on what you're tanking, Eldridge is counting a lot on skill procing

[woven star]

She become almost common choice for cvs fleet. Depends on bosses and situations

[urban mountain]

Returning player here, completely lost and maxed on oil. What should I spend it on?

[subtle flare]

heartsteel CLINK

[sweet delta]

Event as usual

[narrow kiln]

Okay. Thanks
I'll keep it somewhere for when I need it.
Like farming experience for the main fleet.
Or when waifu-gaming becomes impossible.

[oblique mortar]

what do the training points from the event do?

[fierce breach]

Hello

[urban mountain]

Is it worth using non-max level ships in my fleet when farming to level them up or should I just use my best to clear fast

[fierce breach]

I am new in this game

[narrow kiln]

hi

[fierce breach]

What should i do? Any suggestions?

[whole crypt]

if you can manage with non-maxed ships getting XP is better, there's still one week to go

[whole crypt]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[subtle flare]

I prefer using books to level to 100 for vanguard and equipping them with gear, for main i use a healer and 2 ships i want to level

[whole crypt]

chat frame

[urban mountain]

Also, my dock is full, is there any reason to keep all these white and blue ships I have

[subtle flare]

clear the event difficulty to 100% with your best fleet then start using non levelled ships if you want

[red hawk]

trying to figure out how I lost a 120 helena in my van on the 10-4 boss fight in the single boss fight

[whole crypt]

tech fodder, not something you'll need to seriously worry about now, but ideally get more dock space

[subtle flare]

MLB your ships for fleet tech then you can get rid of them if you'd like

[urban mountain]

Ah so I can get rid of the mlb ones, thanks

[narrow kiln]

#bot-spam message
Besides the Newbie Tips you were sent, I recommend you take a closer look at this.
(English isn't my native language, so I have some trouble with it.)

[whole crypt]

I won't seriously recommend it, unless they're already lv120

[subtle flare]

yeah someone correct me if i'm wrong but you keep fleet tech bonuses after MLBing them and getting them to 120

[sweet delta]

Many gray and blue ships have good tech when reaching level 120

[subtle flare]

sorry forgot to add to get them to 120 as well

[red hawk]

use the dupes to MLB, keep one copy off all ships

[whole crypt]

you do, but very often people don't have them up to 120 when you just say you can scrap them

[urban mountain]

I just dont have space :/

[subtle flare]

sorry thats my bad 😔

[red hawk]

oof, did you not buy dock space?

[whole crypt]

ideally you'll be buying more space

[oblique mortar]

ah

[subtle flare]

correcting what i said earlier, MLB and get them to 120 before sending them to the void

[urban mountain]

I had bought skins with the free gems in the past, one reason I kinda want to start a new account. I feel so lost

[fierce breach]

I am new what should i do to collect characters?

[subtle flare]

how long have u been playing?

[red hawk]

if you delete a fully levelled/mlb ship you keep all bonuses though? was that what I'm understanding?

[urban mountain]

lvl 126, Im returning after a long time

[red hawk]

like if I sent my starter to retire RN I'd keep the fleet tech and stuff

[subtle flare]

taken from wiki

[fierce breach]

And which characters i should pull?

[red hawk]

ok, not planning on it, but just clarifying

[sweet delta]

Have you tried reading the guide you were sent?

[whole crypt]

read the newbie tips, you could pull some on the current event banner but for most part in early game you'll be using free and shop ships

[subtle flare]

oof, starting fresh would be tough

[subtle flare]

npnp

[urban mountain]

I'd like to stay f2p, are there any ways of getting free gems currently or soon

[fierce breach]

Its hard to understand that long article

If someone can explain about characters and gacha system i will be thankfull

[sweet delta]

No

Literally doesn't get simpler

[whole crypt]

explaining it will just be the same wall of text as that page

[subtle flare]

afaik free gems are gained from campaign, very rarely from commissions and when yostar fs up

[whole crypt]

take your time there's no rush, game's a marathon so better come in prepared

[red hawk]

ok so if I'm doing protocore maxxing, I want to finish the catchup on FDG and then start doing it for a ship I'm coining and convert their BPs right?

[fierce breach]

What should i do now?

[whole crypt]

campaign 3-stars, Chinese New Year and anniversary basically

[whole crypt]

pick up the free/shop ships in the newbie tips and start running stages with them

[fierce breach]

Where is it

[undone plover]

protocore from handbook cdc gives u enough of a window to work on FdG and anchorage
after that u can think of coining for protocore

[red hawk]

i wasted a bunch of mine unfortunately.

[sweet delta]

You have to start coining early because it takes like 35 days

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop this one might be easier to read

[sweet delta]

Its content is worse though

[red hawk]

my understanding is that I complete the BP's FDG, then I can swap to my roon at dev 30 and burn her bps as I coin fate sim

[whole crypt]

the guild shop and starter fleet sections are less confusing as long as you don't click out of the newbie tips section

[narrow kiln]

...So that's why Samheart wrote "Hope this wasn't too much reading for you EN ppl."...

[subtle flare]

just copy and paste it into a voice ai, boom

[sweet delta]

It directs new players to ectl server where they'll be met with insults

[undone plover]

without knowing the full details I would say u can decide what is more worth for u atm
having more protocore or finishing the coining for whoever u are working on

aside from anchorage and FdG I personally dont think anyone else is really "crucial"

[subtle flare]

oops did not mean to reply

[subtle flare]

ectl server is toxic?

[undone plover]

to be fair if coin is not an issue FdG does not interfere with any of this
DR coining is separate

[onyx flame]

is the main reason shorter face research is preferred cause you simply get to cycle for better research faster?

[fierce breach]

Why there are only two in one and 5 in 2 star?

[narrow kiln]

Read Bulin's skill.

[whole crypt]

bulins are limit-break materials, don't bother looking at the stars

[red hawk]

no but I can only get the blueprint catchups for one ship at a time correct? So I'd want to get the 150 for FDG before swapping to roons

and then have roon at dev 30 so I can analyze hers while coining fate sim

im just trying to make sure I'm understanding the process correctly

[fierce breach]

So she is not character

[whole crypt]

essentially

[red hawk]

they're limit break materials not ships to use

[fierce breach]

Which character i should play?

[narrow kiln]

Limit breaks also grant stars.
It's not recommended to play on a ship that doesn't have all the stars

[sonic maple]

Anyone have issues with the game?

I cant enter after login

[narrow kiln]

...Why does this look worse than a person who doesn't know English at all...

[whole crypt]

honestly though ecgc newbie tips is a little daunting to look at coming into the game, guildshop/starterfleet/LB on ectl is basically all you need to get started

[undone plover]

Ah I see what u mean
Yeah FdG catchup shouldnt take that long to finish
Dont swap to roon until she is dev30

If she is not dev 30 u have to use BP before u can coin

So only use her catchup after she is dev30 already

[red hawk]

right, roon's at like 21/30 with FDG at 104 bps

[undone plover]

So coin roon
And keep catchup on FdG
If it finishes before your roon is dev30 switch to someone else
Like Anchorage for example
Or agir

[red hawk]

I don't wanna dev gascgone next?

or are you just talking BP catchup

[undone plover]

Yea just catchup

[fierce breach]

Thanks

[undone plover]

U can dev who u need next it is fine

[red hawk]

she's just the next PR2 I have access to now

[woven star]

Iirc roon pry ship and fdg is dr ship you have both coin discount per day. Imo best get them both and coin if coin isn't issue for yoo

[red hawk]

I am coining both

[undone plover]

Any pr2 gold is fine to dev
It will mainly be for protocore

[red hawk]

I started doing dev on monarch while I was getting EU fleet tech for gascgone

[woven star]

10k both per day. Roon 10 times 3k and fdg 7k

[red hawk]

but I was really thinking of continuing with monarch, I have a lack of BBs she has her augment update and would be easy for me to get the XP for, I already finished the first combat xp

im not in any hurry for this stuff

[undone plover]

Also fine
As long as u are coining someone high prio u can dev anyone u want in between

[whole crypt]

did you get Oumi because Oumi happens to be a very good BB

[red hawk]

I did in fact get oumi

also have nina friede who isn't dog and hood

I just don't have UR bb's

[jagged canyon]

Does this coupon event not include those of us who already have all the race queen skins?

[woven star]

Just in case do you have Massena from last event?

[red hawk]

I don't think so

Im pretty sure I skipped last banner

just doughay troughin or w/e it is

im sure i absolutely murdered that

[woven star]

Ok nvm

[red hawk]

I kinda had oumi levelling on the back burner while I was grinding IB main xp, but I'm trying to slip her into my grind now

im gonna want to save the IB mains I have for when I level gascgone

[woven star]

Gascone any good? Except 2rld at 120lvl

[red hawk]

idk she was just accessible due to her fleet tech req

someone here recommended her as a dev stepping stone

[woven star]

At this point Flandre looks better with her stats

[red hawk]

not so much about her use

[onyx flame]

flandre cant be coined yet

[woven star]

True. But at least she has 3 main guns and solid stats with her preload. Anyway as you wish

They both not best imo

[red hawk]

she could have a million guns and give infinite stats and it wouldn't matter I can't dev her rn

but my goal is to eventually collect as many as I can anyway

[wind hazel]

just do whatever and get FDG later. anything else in between is considered filler

[woven star]

Fdg, Roon and Monarch as you said previous fine choice

[red hawk]

FDG is all but done lol

was it Izumo BP boost that you said was a thing whales do?

[wind hazel]

huh

you mean those PR vouchers? in the past yes. nowadays better to get Monarch

[red hawk]

maybe it wasn't you, someone was talking about pr vouchers and the value for whales

since we don't get a lot of good BB's early

[whole crypt]

there are better things to spend on even as a whale but if you want then Monarch is fair game now with aug, assuming you can afford to level bump her and make her augment

[wind hazel]

yeah if you're whaling, you can whale for the PR1 BB and save yourself some headache. but kinda waste of $

[onyx flame]

also bump

[whole crypt]

the prints/hr don't differ very much it's just cycling, some people prefer the longer ones for DR ships because higher guarantee

[red hawk]

im not going to, just trying to absorb as much info about the game as I can lol

[woven star]

Best option save every catchup below research 5 and after spend it in shops for analyzing

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say every, FdG and Agir still good to just spend on directly

[stark quiver]

do you guys usually buy double ring

[whole crypt]

Anchorage too

[woven star]

You can coin any of these ships and after sell prints which you'll get

[late flame]

not saying its recommended, but i did snap *pr1-3 because timeskip yay

[woven star]

This is the way too

[late flame]

not because I didn't know better back then

[whole crypt]

the point is FdG, Agir and Anchorage are very good ships that you'd want to field ASAP, for which the respective catchups help a lot, you can analyze all the other older series if you want since they're mostly less impactful in comparison

the "must haves" list for protocores isn't that long and you get a fair bit out of analyzing all the CDPs

[woven star]

I only skip Agir catchup cos have solid option at that time. But yeah, Anchorage is a best option for prints

[whole crypt]

also keep in mind older series catchup prints also need you to have finished an older series ship to analyze anyway

[silk sphinx]

I do

It’s 18% off, and does help some

[red hawk]

ok, agir is a tank, what does anchorage do that's valuable

[whole crypt]

I mean if you're buying rings then ring pack is best value

so it's the usual "how much are you spending on the game for what"

[dark hazel]

also tank

[red hawk]

what if I have eldridge retro?

[dark hazel]

eldridge is not usually a main tank, still good to have them all

[whole crypt]

depends on what you're doing you can potentially use even more tanks

[silk sphinx]

Eldridge retro is kind of like jda

[woven star]

I'm not sure that I ever come back for research 1 so even having catchup nothing mean for general impact

[silk sphinx]

Gives you temp invincibility

[split gazelle]

mobbing, BB, CV fleets. 3 tanks you'll need most likely

[red hawk]

I don't really have any of the valuable tanks besides eldridge, the ones I use rn are port and kala ideas/eldridge

[whole crypt]

you may use more than 1 tank in a fleet depending on the fight too

Anchorage is going to be a huge upgrade over Portland

and Agir maybe replace Kala

[red hawk]

I like Kala but I know shes not a meta tank for end game

[whole crypt]

Anchorage and Agir both hold up fairly well for lategame

[woven star]

Agir tank as high hp pool. Anchorage tank cos little less hp as Agir but have team save as eva buff

[whole crypt]

for the record Anchorage is highest HP CA outside of 2 DR ships

[red hawk]

I think kala is the highest eHP ship I have atm

[woven star]

It's not really but something like Eldredge and Agir's daughter

[split gazelle]

they're pretty close yeah

[whole crypt]

have you actually looked at the raw HP and eHP tables

[split gazelle]

anyone knows what VH means in this context

[whole crypt]

VH plate

[split gazelle]

oh the yellow aux thingy

[whole crypt]

I think the base assumption is rudder + toolkit, and that instance of Agir has toolkit replaced with VH

anyway Anchorage is by no means a low HP evasion tank

she's high HP with CA evasion but happens to some additional evasion related skills

[fierce breach]

2 wisdom cube for one ship?

[whole crypt]

yes, most event pools and the permanent heavy/special pools cost 2 cubes per pull

[fierce breach]

So all my cubes use in event banner?

[whole crypt]

Little Agir is very far down by the way

[woven star]

I don't mean eHP.

[fierce breach]

Can i talk with u in dm?

[whole crypt]

no because I'm going to bed
my recommendation is to keep pulling on the current event banner when you can because there are a few good ships that'd be great to start with if you can get them, but basic starter fleet is good enough for most of early to midgame

[woven star]

As for me biggest value of Anchorage it's her eva skill which have more saves rather than Agir. But maybe it's only my wish

[whole crypt]

there's a reason we use the eHP table for reference and not just raw HP
keeping in mind Agir's bulk isn't only her base HP but also her damage reduction

[woven star]

I'm using her in situations where can't use Eldredge or z52

[whole crypt]

Eldridge is great when her skill is in effect but she's extremely vulnerable when it's on cooldown

[vestal raven]

what's the next event after the current one?

[red hawk]

her and essexkai are expensive af tho

[split gazelle]

but worth it

[whole crypt]

all of the UR retrofits are in the same ballpark except Yuudachi

[red hawk]

hasn't her retro kinda fallen off

[whole crypt]

should be Unzen rerun

[dark hazel]

how's that so, eldridge is meta and no other ur retro is

[red hawk]

sandy?

[whole crypt]

I think he meant Yuudachi

[dark hazel]

right + sandy mb, but warspite and yuudachi nowhere near right?

[fierce breach]

I wanna guild?

I want to joint to guild🫣

[red hawk]

#1246721562741178410

[late flame]

or just randomly join one in game if you are feeling lucky`

[woven star]

Isn't eHP depends on boss and situations and counting as solo ship? I mean is for Yuudachi meta this variables changes?

[whole crypt]

Yuudachi has fallen off but she's still fairly good for her cost, a really stable DD to throw on low cost SP at least, also depends on what your other ship options are

though very often DDGs survive well enough nowadays

[red hawk]

my issue is that I'd have to use spec cores for her

[late flame]

yeah ddg +unicorn can take over easily enough for 1:1 sp

[whole crypt]

if you want it specific to use check the different columns in eHP table, the first % column is averaged across multiple use cases

[red hawk]

Don't exactly have a wealth at vanguard but I'm ok for where I'm at. Just chilling at 12 doing stuff for fleet tech and progress

[whole crypt]

but they don't usually deviate very far

[woven star]

Mlb Kazagumo she can be useful with CVs

[red hawk]

shes on the list, just waiting on enough bulins for everything

[haughty skiff]

raise kazagumo & get eldridge to 125 ; roon isn't bad either

[red hawk]

still coining roon atm, eldridge is awakened to 125

[woven star]

Yeah. Your dock have a lot of tank. Time to get buffers or dps ships

[forest palm]

when vanguard research ships don't strictly need dev 30 for easy mob content

[haughty skiff]

aurora (purple hms cl) is also just a good vanguard to raise ; you also can raise roon without her being dev30

[red hawk]

I mean I can absolutely start levelling some of them, it's just a matter of finding room while im capping others

I have aurora I just haven't put any levels into her, got her on WW

[woven star]

Idk Isla with all her aux should be good. Not sure how she good

[red hawk]

I was working on monty purely for personal reasons and EU fleet tech

I have all the atelier augs and items, but I didn't think Isla was that great

[late flame]

imo collab ships has lower priority due to lack of fleettech*

[red hawk]

that's kinda why I paused on them, I do like the ones I have, but I've been targetting ships that are either useful mid/late or fleet tech (like monty for EU)

[haughty skiff]

you also just have more impactful ships to work on

do you already have FDG ?

[red hawk]

shes almost done. just finishing the last bit of combat XP, she'll be done tomorrow most likely

[dark hazel]

fleet tech should be secondary to leveling ships you actually use^
but fleet tech when possible is great obviously

[fierce breach]

In which server most players in?

[stark quiver]

Avrora maybe
Most old people at least

[red hawk]

ive been trying to balance fleet tech/combat XP dev/levelling useful stuff

but also- useful usually means SR or higher and that means bulins

I have a few elites that wouldn't be awful for me to put some levels on though like Indep

I also could do the great wall but I don't need more tanks rn lol

[haughty skiff]

just focus on unlocking FDG, raise eldridge + roon + javelinn (as she's closest to 120) and unlock her from 12-4 farming

if you want to focus on fleet tech then i'd recommend checking out the fleet tech tracker and generally this is how you'd decide who to raise (copy pasted from Shady)

BB: RLD > HIT > FP > others.

CV: RLD until 20 (prioritise +2) > HIT -> AVI > RLD (the rest) > the rest.

You can also do RLD (20) > HIT > AVI +2 > RLD (the rest) > AVI +1 as an alternative. I like having excess RLD for easier timing.

CA/CB/CL: EVA > FP > HIT = RLD = TRP > other.

There is an argument for CB and CA: EVA > FP -> HIT > RLD > TRP > others; CL: EVA = FP > TRP > HIT/RLD > others.

DD: FP > TRP > other.

check fleet tech

[red hawk]

wdym unlock her

oh FDG sorry mb

[woven star]

About Roon and research 1. You can look at Saint Luis she's good ship and have good tech for CA

[haughty skiff]

all good; you can probably focus on Plymouth once she's coinable and then go into PR8 when you actually have enough blueprints to make it worthwhile

[late flame]

He does* have sanrui at dev30/ lv120

[woven star]

And yeah just focus on something. Too much tips just confused

[red hawk]

yeah she's fate sim maxed and everything

Current mobbing levelling fleet.

[late flame]

I wouldn't worry too much about fleettech-just treat it as an end-game goal

[red hawk]

I should swap out Z1 but I was just trying to have someone in there who wasn't super low and could get some XP.

Almost kinda just wanna get her to 120 and be done with her

[late flame]

Z-anything is still great for dd fp

[split gazelle]

or IB tech

[red hawk]

yeah thats what I mean, shes so close, it's not like more IB tech would hurt

[haughty skiff]

i mean you're just grinding exp, it's just deciding between if you want tech or levelling useful ships

you said that you're working on FDG, but your mob fleet doesn't have any IB Main ?

[red hawk]

I uhh, may have accidentally started gascogne before I finished up roon today accidentally, and I can't switch back till tommorrow so I wasn't focusing that today but I do have Gniessneua/Scharn/Weser in a opsi C1 grind fleet

not roon FDG

[haughty skiff]

just level them in w12 and c1 ?

[red hawk]

I use c1 to bring ships in level range of w12 where my ships can safely carry them with other levelling ships.

[haughty skiff]

you said that you're almost done with the exp grind for FDG ?

[red hawk]

yes, but I can't finish it today because I accidentally switched off her development to gasc

so I was just doing the other ships I needed to finish levelling

[haughty skiff]

my confusion is how you lack enough levels to use them in w12 if you've almost finished fdg in the first place

[red hawk]

at this point I probably could, Im just not using them there right now because it doesn't matter if I have them there or not...

Gneiis 112 SCharn 79 Elbe 81

but I started them in C1 at like level 40 with uni

[haughty skiff]

thats fine, just finish fdg as soon as possible so you can start working on anchorage ig

[red hawk]

which enty would help with rn because all I need is 41 fleet tech points for EU for anchorage dev

im sure getting enty to 120+monty MLB will unlock anchorage for me

43 points yeah

[fierce breach]

Why my team too weak? How can i become strong?

[red hawk]

you're not using the recommended ships from the guide people told you to use and your best ship is on a commission

So I'm using the top fleet for mob/getting some opsi XP, is there any better way to distribute the ships in the other 2 fleets I'm using for bosses

[deft kettle]

this might sound dumb, but how do i know which support skill makes my ships turn blue as if they received a defense buff

[viscid swift]

what

[deft kettle]

wait

[crimson glacier]

you should read the skills of the ships in your fleet and see who has buff/s

[sweet delta]

You don't, each skill is defined with no color, red, yellow or blue. Blue skill doesn't mean blue color, and you also dont know which skill made the ship blue

[slow fox]

-# The amount of math I had to do so that this statement can be made in good faith , fighting all the pedants

[deft kettle]

i dont get why they flash red and blue

my brainn

[orchid reef]

is this the torpedo for anchorage?

[sweet delta]

The blue one is already it. Blue and purple are interchangeable

[orchid reef]

since i use rn this one

[sweet delta]

610 is wrong

[orchid reef]

someone told me it was correct
so i should get the purple one then?

[sweet delta]

[orchid reef]

just answer my question 😭
cuz idk whats best best for her torpedo

[split gazelle]

he did answer your question

[orchid reef]

why not purple one, isnt it better

[atomic abyss]

well

think about it this way

why are you using these torps

instead of the usual

[orchid reef]

what

idk what are best torpedos for her

[atomic abyss]

so first, you gotta understand that

When this ship fires her Torpedoes: deploys a smokescreen and a barrier. Smokescreen lasts 5s and increases Evasion Rate by 40.0% for all your ships in it (does not stack with other smokescreen skills). The barrier lasts 5s and can absorb DMG up to 6.0% of this ship's max HP. If this barrier is destroyed before it expires: this ship gains 100% Evasion Rate for 2s.

[stark quiver]

use fastest torps to proc her skill faster
thats all

[atomic abyss]

in other words, you're not using her torps for dmg
but for her smokescreen/barrier

while the purple torps will do ever so slightly more (negligble) damage

the blue torps are faster

[orchid reef]

then which torps i should get
the blue ones from iris?

[atomic abyss]

yes

these ones in other words

[orchid reef]

i swear if someone will tell me later "these torps are bad use this instead" i am smashing my head against a wall so much fr

[atomic abyss]

i mean the difference between blue and purple is small

[short star]

What would be good Fleet 1 and 2? At this time iam at 10-4 and eldrige will get retro but iam not good at lv15 Meta or this Star sign boss

[atomic abyss]

it's like 1s faster

for less damage
either way the damage is shit

but blue torp is cheaper to max so

[orchid reef]

what else changes.

[fleet cosmos]

Ok im done with farming the event and just returned to farming normal Chapters. Im farming 12-1 and was curios whats my best way of farming the EXP for Research Ships im currently working on the 2.4m EXP for Ägir. is the best way to just put like 2 Ironblood ships into your Backline together with Unicorn and kinda just let unicorn do her thing ?

[orchid reef]

for all of those ig

[sweet delta]

Level up Oumi, Aquila, Helena, Eldridge in event D1 or D3. Don't farm chapter 9 or 10 while there's this event. Put some low level ships with some high like unicorn to farm exp

[deep totem]

for agir exp you need vanguard not main fleet, use 3 ironblood vanguard

[deft kettle]

Are the super rare event ships good?

[stark quiver]

oumi is good

[stark quiver]

agir is a CB large cruiser

[orchid reef]

anyone?

[deep totem]

huh? so main fleet included?

[split gazelle]

no this part

[deep totem]

aah 1st one main fleet

[stark quiver]

84/700

[split gazelle]

alt

[fleet cosmos]

nah this is correct, im already done with the 1.2m EXP ^^ thanks

[stark quiver]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide
look thru this
dont change anchorage

[fleet cosmos]

gotta work on getting some Vanguard Ships Leveled then...

[fleet cosmos]

you got any recommendations for me? lol am a newer player still Z23 is geared the most out of my IB Vanguards

[deep totem]

you can use z23, heinrich and roon

[deft kettle]

is z23 useful when retro?

[short star]

Thx, is there a side with good Team combs? I know the excel with the ranking but there are mostly only "this is geting better with this" but not really Team combs or it is enough to select all the higher ships in a Team and let it rol?

[fleet cosmos]

ok, and for Mainfleet I can just use Unicorn, Essex (retro) and Independece yea ?

should be able to clear quite easily I think ?

[deep totem]

yeah, main fleet you can use whatever you want

[orchid reef]

if i replace on san diego the twin 100mm gun for twin 150mm gun, will it be better?

[rain bobcat]

Essex is retro'd???

ditch indep and use a BB

[fleet cosmos]

yea

[deft kettle]

question

[sweet delta]

The basics are here if you want to try your own hand at it https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/

[fleet cosmos]

those are some of my BBs atm its looking rough LOL am mainly using Zenker and Nelson, just unlocked FDG a while ago am currently doing her daily Development

[sweet delta]

But just for leveling ships in easy maps, you don't need much fleet building strategy

[sweet delta]

You should level up Oumi. 12-1 is easy anyways, level 70 will be fine

[fleet cosmos]

oh is Oumi good? tbh I dont know any good resources to check if new ships are good haha 😄
The EN Community Tier list is like my only go to atm, but it takes a while for it to update so not too sure about the new ships yet

but If I know Oumi is worth building I will! ^^

[deep totem]

Oumi is best gold BB, below UR

[deft kettle]

ill take note of that

is she as good as warspite?

[sweet delta]

/tierlist You can check this updated 0 to 4 days after patches drop

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[fleet cosmos]

thanks good to know!

[deep totem]

i dont know as i didnt have her

[stark quiver]

no

[atomic abyss]

og warspite yes, oumi is way better
warspite retro with augment no, noticeably worse

[red sapphire]

Hi, what's the best sr secondary gun I can place on the BBs?

[slow fox]

What is standard submarine aux gear? Oxygen and hull?

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#main-fleet-weapons

[red sapphire]

Thank you so much!

[uncut ocean]

When can we expect Essex retrofit rerun

[atomic abyss]

in about a year

[uncut ocean]

bit weird to delete that

[atomic abyss]

well it isnt

[uncut ocean]

super weird actually

[atomic abyss]

because channel rules prohibit such stuff

[uncut ocean]

👍

[silk helm]

Does upgrading to +13 give any benefit to campaign?

[stark quiver]

no

[silk helm]

thanks king

[stark quiver]

It’s not too relevant rn because meta is light armor

[silk helm]

im trying to push w12-1 and the boss is medium armor so its a big upgrade for me at least

[stark quiver]

12-1

[silk helm]

im pretty sure the boss is medium armor at least according to mrlar

[stark quiver]

Is this an alt
I thought you’re past 12-1

[silk helm]

oh srry, just farming it right now 🥀

i was using like double twin 457 before, i get notably higher clear rates with the meck gun though

[stark quiver]

you can mix n match guns
dont +13 until you need to

[sweet delta]

+13 weapons do 18% more damage than +10 as a baseline

[silk helm]

for opsi and meta only? or campaign too

well i guess it jsut says OPS damage boost and damage modifier increase for meck gun... not sure what that means for campaign

[stark quiver]

everywhere

[woven tendon]

how comfortably can i farm on w13 with a max lvl fleet?

[woven star]

Why? Coin difference not so much with w12 and if max lvl no exp

[woven tendon]

i want to farm map drops and grind pr at the same time

[woven star]

W13-1 not hard on safe. Other can be harder but for 120-125 I don't think this will be difficult on auto

[woven tendon]

13-3 and 13-4 specifically

[woven star]

Depends on fleet but main difficulties from bullet hell plains

[woven tendon]

gotchu

guessing sandy and a lot of aa would be good there

[fierce breach]

Is it hard to collect coins?

[dark hazel]

if you're new you will constantly use all you hvae pretty much

[fierce breach]

Then its not easy to collect pulls?

How many pulls daily you can get after 2 months of playing AL?

[sweet delta]

You get about 200 cubes per month by just playing the game every day. Coins are farmable

[tacit reef]

Anyone know when this will come back out or other ways to get it 😮

[river junco]

IIRC Google Play didn't like how risky that skin was and AL had to take it offsale and won't be rerunning it.

[boreal wagon]

that being said hindenburgs skin which also got banned did rerun with the last bunny sale so make of that what u will

[silk helm]

smh i bought it cuz i thought it wasn't returning... scammed

[tacit reef]

I hope it does. Seeing how some of these other skins are now I think it might... I hope. Unless someone knows a work around to support the creators and still get the skin. I missed out on this skin cause I started playing after it was removed

[boreal wagon]

i mean, the truth of the matter is we dont know what is/will/has happened since they have not made a statement since their original statement about being asked to remove them

we know hindenburg reran but dont expect the others to

[inland shoal]

I mean it's just specific skins google asked them to remove with little further elaboration

We'll see on black friday I suppose

[tacit reef]

Special skin sale or something around black Friday?

[stark quiver]

does seyd's unavailable skin come back on blk frday

[boreal wagon]

black friday reruns all non collab skins that released before june of the same year

(there are a few exceptions beyond just collab iirc but i dont remember the specifics)

[tacit reef]

Fingers crossed

Thank you

[supple ember]

is there any way to get Sovetsky Soyuz?

[stark quiver]

Not now

[ivory pawn]

Wait for her rerun. Probably next year.

[supple ember]

ughhhh

[ivory pawn]

<@&460646206851252224> Mr Beast this time!

[little venture]

Why the fuck it skip like 6 channels?

[patent fiber]

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[odd root]

member must be a mention or valid user id.

[patent fiber]

[alpine dirge]

/kick901014583035183144 scam

[patent fiber]

lmao

[charred pollen]

/kick 901014583035183144

[patent fiber]

/kick 901014583035183144 hacked account

[odd root]

dang8701#0 got kicked.

dang8701#0 got kicked. Reason: hacked account

[alpine dirge]

[ivory pawn]

[patent fiber]

[alpine dirge]

ima head out

[charred pollen]

Why can’t I delete it

[stark quiver]

[supple ember]

is there somewhere that lists all the ships that have an oath skin?

[inland shoal]

I mean there's https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Wedding

[cerulean field]

Is the new ur worth it?

[inland shoal]

(Or https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/skins?skinType=1 if you want)

[inland shoal]

Depends
I-404 is good but by no means a priority to invest UR bulins in
Hakuhou is very good, but still depends on who you already have whether there's a higher priority to invest UR bulins into

[supple ember]

sick thanks

[tranquil vine]

at what chapter do main story battles give more exp than the event D3

also would it be easier to keep underleveled ships alive there

[golden meteor]

how far is retrofit laffey/helena going to carry me
until i find a better ur/sr? because idk who specifically outperforms them

[soft raft]

at the very least up to W9 for Laffey retro
Helena doesnt have direct competition, but she gets filtered out by some content not being suitable for her like W14-15 boss

[white musk]

Hmm
You fail to consider
✋️ peak waifu i404 gets all my ur bulins.

Thoughts?

[soft raft]

tbh if you're gonna waifu, why even ask

[opaque galleon]

In shikikan’s hierarchy of needs, subs are a tertiary investment priority

[inland shoal]

While I am unsure for the answer before but would guess world 9 I think d3 is easier than an equivalent campaign stage

[uneven knot]

how many exchange vouchers should i aim for the opsi monthly reset

[soft raft]

as many as possible

[sweet delta]

I get around 14k without stars

[inland shoal]

That's not rly sth to aim for tbh, important is that you did all your strongholds and arbiters and (high corrosion) hidden zones and used up your AP. And bought the important stuff from the shops ofc. Normal for a fully played month is >13k though

[sweet delta]

That's more than enough to buy out the shop, and not everything in the shop is important

[inland shoal]

I personally am a slacker and I still do fine with usually less than 10k a month, you don't really need all that many vouchers

[sweet delta]

Try hard in opsi to buy the 2x plans so you can slack off in campaign 🧠

[rain bobcat]

damn you guys dont buy the 2x plans?

I always buy them so I can have them when UR or PR releases

[tranquil vine]

okay so uhh im wondering if itd take less runs to do the sortie exp missions using 10-4 or D3

[inland shoal]

I have 2000 of them, I really don't need more

[tranquil vine]

10-4 is my highest cleared story map so thats why i picked it specifically

my level 70 does survive in it fortunately

[fathom burrow]

So even if you have the outfit you have to spend 800 gems to use it in dorm now?

[sweet delta]

10-4 isnt good for exp, better do D3 and get extra rewards as bonus

[tranquil vine]

D3 kills my level 70 ship

[rain bobcat]

if you dont have much event points just do D3. unless they changed it, standard D3 is around chapter 10 anyway and chapter 10 is horrible for exp so might as well get something

[tranquil vine]

its the elite enemies

[rain bobcat]

unicorn?

[tranquil vine]

not enough healing

[sweet delta]

Do D1 then

[tranquil vine]

what about D2

[rain bobcat]

I would do d1, it has better gear drop

[uneven knot]

unfortunately im not strong enough to clear the strongholds or arbiter just yet mostly trying to farm corrosion 5

im at 3k rn ill try to aim for around 5k before the month ends 😭

[inland shoal]

Stronghold and arbiter don't need much strength as you can heal and go back an infinite amount of times

[tranquil vine]

ok no i cant survive the hard mode maps

[azure coyote]

What's the fastest way to do data collection missions for research ships?

[plush path]

So with 3 back line ships of the faction you want and one getting mvp…you get about 3800 xp in D3. Run 10-4 and see about how much you get per node for your back line

[tranquil vine]

its frontline, its for leeuw

[uneven knot]

maybe ill try putting eldridge in my fleet since im taking so much damage way too fast

[inland shoal]

Use 3 ships that fit the criteria, go do maps, doesn't have to be best exp efficiency as you usually gain exp faster than the next missions unlock this way anyway

[azure coyote]

What's maps?

[inland shoal]

Campaign or event

[azure coyote]

Ah

[inland shoal]

Most common farming stage is 12-4

[azure coyote]

Yeah I'm on 5-4

[inland shoal]

Good luck. Btw what's your adaption at? For strongholds you want sth like 188 on the first 2

[sweet delta]

Then you don't focus on farming PR exp. At most you just get Saint Louis as a byproduct of using starter ships like Portland and Helena

[azure coyote]

Well I'm unlocking roon right now and the only missions I have left are the data collection mission

So might as well finish it

[uneven knot]

im sitting at 237, 236, and 230 rn

[sweet delta]

Unless your one fleet has already 1 or 2 iron blood vanguards, you grief your progression by swapping in iron blood ships

[azure coyote]

It does and I was already thinking about adding a 3rd

[tranquil vine]

i mean, 1951 exp per for a large escort, thats decently good, yea? assuming 6 escorts before boss thats... like, 30-something thousand exp per run?

[inland shoal]

Ah so you're already over the cap then, any more won't make a difference. Well I can understand not doing strongholds, they're pretty annoying to clear when you barely deal dmg before dying

[inland shoal]

Well 1951 is with double run, so really it's less than 1k which is not that amazing

Also have you tried putting your Hein mid to make her survive?

[tranquil vine]

yes

[inland shoal]

Could be a gear issue, my intuition is they shouldn't die with that much healing and lvls from the backline, but if you really cannot make her survive I'd honestly just use only 2 ships for the cdc, I'd rather make good progress than hyperfocus on cdc, in the end developing the research ships is what takes long anyway

[ember roost]

How good is Hakuhou? Is she worth another copy?

[inland shoal]

Good and only if you're rly close to pity anyway

[sweet delta]

Another copy for what

[tranquil vine]

ok uh what story map is the first thats good for exp farming for missions

[inland shoal]

(+ have the cubes + aren't swimming in UR bulins anyway)

[ember roost]

For 2 fleets

[sweet delta]

Hell no

No UR is worth copying for 2 fleets, and Hakuhou is especially bad for that

[sweet delta]

11-1? Idk what's the threshold for good and why not event. Do you already have like 60k event points?

[ember roost]

So far been trying to get copies for 2 fleets

[sweet delta]

Ok

[tranquil vine]

yes

and not the event because again it keeps melting all the ships

[sweet delta]

Like Ulrich is not even good for two fleets lol, never has been

[ember roost]

Who's good for 2?

[sweet delta]

Like I said, nobody

[ember roost]

Oh

I'm just wasting box space then

Do i sell or

[inland shoal]

I mean you can keep them as trophies or retire rly

But yeah the only application of 2 of the same ship I can think of is not having to swap equips for pvp, which is

[ember roost]

Or healers like unicorn for 2 fleets

[rain bobcat]

? only 1 fleet needs heals and that's mob

[ember roost]

Ohhh

[tranquil vine]

ok isnt there a chart for exp gain in story maps?

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins/

[rain bobcat]

yes

[tranquil vine]

wait. 11-1 has the highest exp in the game?

that doesnt sound right

[rain bobcat]

its just the most efficient

[tranquil vine]

oh wait its efficient.

[forest palm]

yesn't moment, it doesn't drop cog chips, and the map can be pain in the ass to raise ships, so 12-1 is better

[tranquil vine]

how much exp do i get per battle tho

[stark quiver]

Just have 300k+ cogs saved up

[forest palm]

I have 100k

[stark quiver]

Close enough

[forest palm]

more than most to be sure

[rain bobcat]

ch12 is easier to drag low lvl ships and gives way more gold

[stark quiver]

I might actually run out of cogs before I hit my 200 ships @ 120

[forest palm]

"200" cute

[stark quiver]

I’m a new player ong

[thin shore]

I need some help in leveling units that are not geared and around level 20

which stage you guys recommend

[cobalt gate]

welp was waiting to see how much cog the island mode would have given but its delayed

[stark quiver]

What island mode

[cobalt gate]

the 3d island thing

[stark quiver]

[cobalt gate]

Do beginner missions for exp books 1st probably

[sweet delta]

Use exp packs until they're good enough to survive in chapter 12 or whatever oil capped map

[thin shore]

still cant reach chap 12, im stuck on chapter 6

[sweet delta]

What's your original fleet and these new level 20 ships

[slender pond]

How many days does the event have left?
Talking about the stages and not the time to claim rewards.

[forest palm]

about a week

[slender pond]

Ok, ty

[amber walrus]

Any tips on lvling up ship

[tranquil vine]

how much exp does a mob fleet in 12-1 give compared to 10-4 i dont think the chart shows

im not entirely sold on pushing to 12-1 for my exp farming yet

[soft raft]

there are three main ways

• Grind grind grind
• Use XP packs
• Put them in the 1st floor of dorm

[soft raft]

well W12 doesnt have suicide boats and the plane presence is fairly minimal

And it's easier to keep low lvl shitters allive when there arent ships packed with explosives ramming towards you at fairly high speeds

[late flame]

-# corpse dragging also kinda works, i.e. lv120 / 125 unicorn flag + lv 120 / 125 tank + the rest being whatever you wanna level

i usually do 12-1 (smaller map, +if levelling submarines)

[tranquil vine]

im just worried about getting the exp missions for pr ships done in Not An Excruciatingly Long Time

[soft raft]

as long as you have 3 applicable ships + 3 others and keep grinding somewhat consistently, it shouldnt be that bad

and it's not like it would make a difference when they will still sit in your dock regardless as you get them to D30

[tranquil vine]

i hate the blueprint system since, like

hooray, i got the ship
too bad theyre unusable until i somehow get 500 blueprints one at a time

[sweet delta]

Why are you not sold that 12-1 is better exp than 10-4

[silk helm]

maybe cuz his ships suck and die in 12-1. that was me until i got better gear

[tranquil vine]

im worried that, like... level 70 prinz heinrich will explode

[sweet delta]

Then why are you using a level 70 Heinrich who's missing an iron blood ship

[tranquil vine]

leeuw

[sweet delta]

She's worse than Portland at tanking

[tranquil vine]

...leeuw.

[soft raft]

What

[tranquil vine]

golden leeuw needs german/italian/dutch frontliners

[soft raft]

oh right she can take IB XP

[chilly plaza]

Ngl, she was the Goat for me in getting the xp for Roon

[tranquil vine]

im gonna be even more boned for donskoi

[sweet delta]

Giuseppe Garibaldi is tankier than Heinrich at the same level

[tranquil vine]

wat

[sweet delta]

And she's a whole 14 levels higher

[soft raft]

why are you even focusing on PR8
have you gotten FdG yet?

[tranquil vine]

no

[sweet delta]

Idk what's the rush for pr8 ships either when you're a new player

[tranquil vine]

im not interested in fdg.
also im technically not new i just take a lotta breaks

[silk helm]

someone send berke emoji

[sweet delta]

Berke didn't take breaks though

[tranquil vine]

im gonna try having garibaldi tank in d3

[sweet delta]

And if you have access to 12 then why are you farming 10-4, it's just bad efficiency and needlessly RNG

[silk helm]

what's d3 efficiency compared to 12-1?

[tranquil vine]

i dont have access to w12

im at 11-1

[amber walrus]

What stage should i grind at

[silk helm]

w12

[soft raft]

Ideally W12
if not, then anywhere W9+

and when there's a event live, you grind the event

[tranquil vine]

can i somehow avoid fighting the elite enemies in d3 or

[soft raft]

if you can somehow avoid them, probably

[tranquil vine]

auto says yolo

[soft raft]

but they'll constantly hound you like every other turn

[tranquil vine]

ok so the elite enemies ALMOST kill garibaldi but she survives and gets healed up in the following battles

[gray sphinx]

Are you bringing non MLB level 80 ships or something? 💀

[tranquil vine]

no shes level 90

the elite enemies just hurt A LOT

[gray sphinx]

I don’t think I’ve had a ship almost die on me in D3 yet. Especially in a full fleet

[sharp pine]

Does anyone have any suggestions for my Yuudachi Meta fleet?

[sweet delta]

Getting rid of the watatsumi and aegir would be a start

[fierce lantern]

where does raffaello go in the boss or the mob fleet

[sweet delta]

Lion is also the best damage dealer, you shouldn't throw away her fourth salvo like that

[rapid summit]

Anyway to upgrade all this fast or just focus on the ones that give gems?

[gray sphinx]

Mob but if you have musashi she’s kind of a better mobber imo

[stark quiver]

collection rate for ships
beaver tag if not already

[sweet delta]

Focus on the beavers, Yorktown class, and whatever gems as needed

[fierce lantern]

i hae musashi so would i put both of them in teh same fleet

[soft raft]

the answer to that would be very context dependent, but normally no I dont put 2 BBs in mob

[gray sphinx]

Mobs usually tend to have one BB and then a cvl and top it off with a cv

[rapid summit]

I’m focusing on beaver rn for the auxiliary

[fierce lantern]

can she be used for w14?

[sharp pine]

Are you suggesting a fire control radar on Lion then for the initial cooldown reduction?

[sweet delta]

AFCT Lion and HSFCR both the other BBs, also autoloader Alsace as suggested by the pinned doc

[tranquil vine]

should i set unicorn up to have as fast of airstrike time as possible?

also what planes would achieve that

[sharp pine]

Thank you. One last thing. I just noticed that I have a second AFCT. That should go on Alsace over Bismarck, right?

👍

[soft raft]

that would end up completely gut her damage while not reducing her reload enough to get a remotely meaningful increase in heals per battle

especially after retro when her preload is often enough to kill roughly half of the mob fight in one go

[tranquil vine]

im not worried about the mobs

[chilly plaza]

Which of these is worth it (Sheffield is there too)

[soft raft]

it's not worth it bro

[tranquil vine]

i need more healing to keep garibaldi alive through the elite enemies

[soft raft]

they're all collection tier

[tranquil vine]

IM USING 3 HEALERS AND NEED MORE HEALING

[chilly plaza]

Good to know

[soft raft]

go farm somewhere else then my guy 💀

[tranquil vine]

i tried and just got told "bro just do D3 instead"

[sharp pine]

Yeah, he should have said "do D3 if you are able to. D3 is a level 105 stage. Go grind somewhere on W9-12, the highest your fleet can handle, until your fleet is around 105. Then you should be able to handle D3.

[tranquil vine]

hold on is there a cv with preloaded airstrike i could use to nuke the elite enemy

[whole crypt]

if you can't handle D3 you can do D1 until they're more leveled up

[sweet delta]

D3 isnt that hard, what ships are you using, what gear, what threat level, what cross fleets

[tranquil vine]

does hakuryu have a preloaded airstrike or no

[whole crypt]

no

[tranquil vine]

aaa how do i know which carriers have preloads

[whole crypt]

most do not

[tranquil vine]

my plan is to use a preload carrier other than unicorn to try to nuke the elite enemies before they can hurt my ships

[rain bobcat]

11-1 with no PR history farming pr8 with lvl 70 ships sure

[gray sphinx]

I’m not an expert but I had asked for W14 advice before and was told to run unicorn, Aquila, and musashi for my mob

[plush path]

If your ships can’t even handle d3 then you should probably stop farming for Season 8 DR ships. D3 is honestly pretty easy and if your ships are that weak they should be dormed til at least the 90s. Don’t farm PR or DR ships unless you can coin them or immediately dev30 them

[whole crypt]

unfortunately that plan won't work because 99% of carriers don't have preload

[tranquil vine]

its that specifically these nations dont have the levels

[whole crypt]

just go level in D1 until you can safely manage D3

[tranquil vine]

i never use german/italian/dutch ships

[sharp pine]

Personally, I wouldn't worry about stuff like that at the moment. It sounds like you just need more levels on your ships considering you said your Garibaldi is level 90. Drop back to D1 for a while. You should have a much easier time until you get more levels and you'll still get event currency.

[plush path]

Then put them in the dorm til they do or level just 1 faction ship with 2 of your good ships while farming event coins

[sweet delta]

96%

[tranquil vine]

im looking up which carriers get preloads

[sweet delta]

Not gonna help

[fleet cosmos]

can someone explain the Catch up mechanic here please, can I select 1 ship to Catch up in total or can I select 1 ship to catch up per PR? or can I do Catch up for all of them ?

[gray sphinx]

You know what really helps? Crossfleet

[tranquil vine]

too slow

[whole crypt]

I'm lazy to look up exactly how many carriers are in the game for the math

[rain bobcat]

genuinely why are you so adamant on getting a dock/loading screen sitter

[plush path]

If you have Perseus her double pre load will clear all mobs in manual play pretty much.

[river junco]

Usually you can find out if a CV has a preload by the text scroll for limit breaks or skill descriptions. To answer your questions of carriers other than Uni with a preload, Perseus does and Aquila does if you equip her with a DB instead of fighter. I'd do what the others say about leveling your ships instead of getting more preloads though.

[gray sphinx]

Well that’s the best you’re gonna get tbh.

[tranquil vine]

...perseus has a double preload?

[plush path]

Yes

[rain bobcat]

you probably havent even done pr1

[late flame]

at the cost of super slow reload

[whole crypt]

yes she does but then she basically does nothing for the rest of the fight

[plush path]

But her 3rd and later are slower. She’s only good for farming

[late flame]

also percy is really powercrept by unicorn retrofit

[tranquil vine]

i have...
neptune, georgia, cheshire, plymouth, shimanto, daisen...

[rain bobcat]

30?

[plush path]

In general but mob farming is a lot easier with Perseus if she’s overleveled in the content and I’m leveling vanguards.

[tranquil vine]

kitakaze and azuma too

[soft raft]

considering that he was complaining about the blueprint system earlier, prob not

[rain bobcat]

like I said, 30?

[tranquil vine]

and hakuryuu

[late flame]

percy = unicorn these days, not gonna be a big difference unless maybe in opsi stronghold

[rain bobcat]

everyone you mentioned are dock warmers before d30

[gray sphinx]

Did you dev30 them tho

[tranquil vine]

of them, neptune, cheshire, and kitakaze are dev30

honestly if this is just gonna be "spend 5 years getting blueprints or fuck you", im just gonna not fuckin play

[rain bobcat]

[tranquil vine]

i dont give a shit that they suck im gonna fucking get them

[sweet delta]

Doesn't take 5 months to dev 30 a whole new season

[soft raft]

You're treating this game like a sprint
which this game is not

[gray sphinx]

Uhhh I’ve only been playing for 2 years total and probably have a shit ton of them dev30

[soft raft]

it's a self paced marathon

[rain bobcat]

1 entire season is 4 months

[river junco]

The earlier PRs are coinable so you don't really need their prints anyways

[gray sphinx]

5 years is exaggerating lol

[rain bobcat]

cut it down to 2.5 if you whale cubes

[gray sphinx]

This as well

[ionic kraken]

is odin worth researching these days?

[whole crypt]

not in particular

[river junco]

Not particularly

[tranquil vine]

i just wanna collect the cute girls

[late flame]

whaling for cubes is not recommended unless you got "fuck you money"
or really busy like me with job and stuff IRL AND can afford it, uh lol

[tranquil vine]

and not waste three weeks of my life farming a map for just one character

[gray sphinx]

I mean you can do that but you’re not doing your waifus justice if you’re just tossing them the minute you finish researching them without getting them to dev30

[tranquil vine]

dev30 is a longterm goal

[zenith heron]

Choosing said PR/DR Ship in the Catch Up would give you extra Bps when you do Research, depending on how much they give you...

would suggest to do catch ups on PR/DR Ships that you either not obtained and isn't available to use coins for upgrades

[sweet delta]

It only takes 3 weeks because you're farming inefficient maps

[river junco]

Take the game at your own pace and have fun

[tranquil vine]

i wanna at least get the ships first so i can then focus on the blueprints

[rain bobcat]

yeah its 3 weeks because ur the same guy that wants to farm 10-4 instead of 11-1 or 12-1

[plush path]

Once your ships are lvl 100+ you can farm 12-4 and get all the PR xp in less than 3 days without stressing or tryharding

[late flame]

-# folks forget that ultimately this is also a resource management game, and there is no achievement for speedrunning

[rain bobcat]

I finish an entire season of PR aquisition within a week

[fleet cosmos]

ok so I can only do this for 1 ship in total and not per PR Season ?

[tranquil vine]

does it include affinity tanking?

[rain bobcat]

no?

[tranquil vine]

ok then ill go for 12-4

[river junco]

You can catch up each PR ship in the catch up, but one of the DR ships per season

[tranquil vine]

until then, 11-1

[plush path]

You’ll also get a bunch of coins you can feed into your countable ships

[rain bobcat]

I just run 3 lvl 70-90 ships with 125 carries/crossfleets and farm for a long time every day

[plush path]

Coinable*

[rain bobcat]

matter of fact my 12-4 farming fleets consist of 1 lvl 120 and 5 lvl 80s with a 2nd fleet crossfleet

[fleet cosmos]

ok so all SR's with Catch up and then I can only do 1 UR PR Ship pretty much with the catch up

ok thanks ^^

[whole crypt]

catch up is 300 prints shared for gold and 150 each for rainbow per series

[river junco]

mbad me when i misremember and spread misinformation

[fleet cosmos]

oh lmao, ok haha

[tranquil vine]

sorry for all the outbursts btw, im not good at managing stress

i really gotta work on it

[rain bobcat]

[tranquil vine]

doesnt help that the new limbus event already heavily tilted me today

[whole crypt]

you really shouldn't be stressed by the game

[zenith heron]

As long as you use Catch ups on those who don't have coins to use as upgrades... since the lowest Season who doesn't have coins to upgrade is DR4 Agir only

[fleet cosmos]

ah alright, then im definetly gonna catch up on her, as im working on getting her atm

[tranquil vine]

rn who i really wanna get dev levels for are...
daisen, halford, donskoi, leeuw, and plymouth

[river junco]

leeuw and plymouth

[tranquil vine]

i have yet to obtain halford, donskoi, and leeuw

maybe i should focus halford before leeuw because i have a strong us fleetbase

[frozen stag]

how do you exchange exp data packs again i cant find the option to exchange them for protocore also is the protocore priority list in the guide still reasonable to follow

[rain bobcat]

well the problem there is all of those are from atleast 3 different seasons

[tranquil vine]

yea ill go for halford first since itll be easier.

[rain bobcat]

1 entire season without catch up is 4 months

[zenith heron]

Also can I ask if PR6 has coinable ships alr?

[river junco]

in your depot, find the xp pack and hit analyze

[rain bobcat]

pr5 has catch up iirc, better do that first

[sharp pine]

Yeah, use the fleets you have built up first. Put the fleets you need to build up in your dorm so they can level up in the mean time.

[rain bobcat]

will cut ur time needed to about 2-3 months

[tranquil vine]

i have the leeuw fleet in the dorm

[sharp pine]

👍

[sweet delta]

Depot and analyze .
If you mean this guide then yes https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280197894141509778/1420810490183159830/Protocore_guide.png?ex=68d6c062&is=68d56ee2&hm=49faf82d640f573ce98d7fa91f456b27d94c5ac07de8af22d23cda9c8de478da&

[fleet cosmos]

Is there anyway for me to check which PR Ships are Coinable? I cant seem to find anything about it on the Wiki

[sweet delta]

If there's a coin icon on the bottom row in the Shipyard

But idk if that shows up before you obtain them

[fleet cosmos]

ooooooo yeah It does!

[river junco]

All of PR 4 and the SRs in PR 5 are coinable

[fleet cosmos]

also Ägir seems to be coinable ^^

[tranquil vine]

gonna run laff2/helena retro/sandy retro for halford lol. levels 100/120/120

[rain bobcat]

if ur already on safe mode and farming, do you have other lvl 90 USS ships?

[tranquil vine]

uhh lemme check

[sweet delta]

Just use those 120s to get to 12-1 and farm there

[rain bobcat]

get to 12-1 then ideally do laffii+2 and sandy+2 for 2 fleets and just run them continuously

[frozen stag]

since i can only buy 20per month do i just buy both of the 20 prints for triple 380 and 460 then get tenrai prints next or just save not that familiar with the protocore shop

[sweet delta]

Buy both the 380 and 406/50 yes

[tranquil vine]

sanfran and bristol at 90, santa fe (who i wanna raise for opsi) at 70

[sweet delta]

Tenrai, only buy when you have enough to reach 50 bps in one go

[tranquil vine]

gonna get 11-1 to safe via the op ones then try raising santa fe and trying them

[fleet cosmos]

btw where is this guide from ?

should get started on spending my Protocores before monthly reset

[sweet delta]

It's not from a website

[fleet cosmos]

ah ok, but that one is up to date yea? 😄

[proud garnet]

Which ur should I max next and who should they replace?