gameplay-help

[stark quiver]

request support and maybe someone will do it for you

[whole crypt]

did someone actually make him a fleet or did he never actually show what he had

[red hawk]

oh I get it, and I'm already to a point where I have nearly a full couple fleets worth of at least poverty gear, it's just that there's always a new toy im getting and not quite enough to go around yet. Just trying to make sure I don't spread stuff too thin. And then stuff like EssexKai needs like 50 for final node

[stark quiver]

i gave em mine
and told to check pin

which probbaly doesnt help but its besides the point

[viral solar]

I have the units that can win easily

[stark quiver]

you should use them

[viral solar]

how do I show my units?

[whole crypt]

if you're using the right ships then you're using the wrong gear

screenshot

[viral solar]

Im using this against her right now

[stark quiver]

thats the wrong ships
and will not win easily

[viral solar]

then whats the right ships?

[whole crypt]

yeh but given that selection and the levels the bigger problem is gearing

that fleet can definitely do at least 50%

[whole crypt]

check the pins there are example fleets with gear just copy and paste

[narrow kiln]

Can anyone tell me in what situation the Washington Naval Treaty should be used?

[whole crypt]

PvP

[undone plover]

I think for pvp sometimes it is used in flag and sometimes off flag
So ask them which is which

[narrow kiln]

Can he be used for his Evasion stat, or is it too low?

[whole crypt]

WNT only works on flag

[stark quiver]

+13 rainbow oxy sound like a bad idea

[whole crypt]

if you want EVA on main fleet just throw on a rudder

why the sudden mention of oxytorp

[whole crypt]

kind of depends on why you want EVA on main fleet, it's generally not relevant outside of PvP

[narrow kiln]

WNT can be used on any ship.
but not its skill

[stark quiver]

A question

I forgot to write does

[whole crypt]

in which case it is indeed a bad idea for most part

[stark quiver]

Dam

[whole crypt]

unless you already have enough +13 on the common gold auxes

[stark quiver]

Maybe I save for 2nd rainbow table in the future

[viral solar]

How do some players have two of these?

[stark quiver]

Event rerun

[viral solar]

I only have one.

[whole crypt]

by playing both Vanguard event and Vanguard event rerun

so you probably missed the original run

[red hawk]

for those of us who can't get AFCT, is the gold aux HFS or w/e it is something I should +13

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't +13 HPFCR at this point, at least not more than 1

[red hawk]

the only auxes I've +13 at this point is white shells

[whole crypt]

since you'll be expecting to replace it with AFCT

[red hawk]

how about gold catapaults?

[whole crypt]

part of it is +13 HPFCR is worse than +10 AFCT

there's no better AVI aux than gold pults at this point outside of when you're adjusting timing with beacon/manjuu

[red hawk]

really the only things I've taken past 10 are gold quad torps white shells, and a flapjack I shouldnt have

[whole crypt]

Ryuusei kai is a good investment

HVAR cat too if you have any

[red hawk]

that's the new torp bomber right? I got that one to 10, but I wasn't sure about doing past there before getting wyvern and tenrai

is that the gold EVA research item

[whole crypt]

generally there's no recommendation to +13 Wyverns and Tenrai only if it's going to a boss fleet

the gold converging TBs have higher priority because you get more DPS gain per plate spent

[red hawk]

so then the new one would be a good investment

[whole crypt]

yes

[red hawk]

from what I understand event gear tends to stand out

[stark quiver]

Only some

[remote token]

It depends

[whole crypt]

if you're not sure just ask, sometimes we get niche or junk

[red hawk]

yeah like the sakura summons thing doesn't seem very useful to me at this point, unless there's some synergy I dont' see or have

[remote token]

Confetti gun was event gear iirc

[red hawk]

but a couple of the collab event items have been useful for my fleet

I have Elixir and Crystal Ice Bomb on my fleet

there's a lot of event gear out there that's recommended I have to wait on rerun for

[whole crypt]

most of those would have already reran/archived so you'll have to either make in lab, buy from shop or wait for addition

[red hawk]

it's just a matter of going down the list of what's 2nd or 3rd best depending on options at this point. I could do war archives for a few things but I didn't plan on it during event

like cosmic kicks and the sword

[whole crypt]

nothing to farm from archives, at least not before Yorktown II makes it there

eh, kicks maybe, what sword

[viral solar]

where do I get this?

[red hawk]

sorry I got stuff mixed, the sword I'm thinking of isn't war archive

[remote token]

It's literally there

[soft raft]

It literally says so right there at the bottom
Aka it's event limited

[viral solar]

where this event`?

[whole crypt]

not available now

[remote token]

In the past

[soft raft]

Gone for the time being

[viral solar]

should I get this instead for trafalgar law?

[soft raft]

Get the quad

[whole crypt]

quad better/cheaper

[soft raft]

The quint version is roughly as good as the Quad version from the preceding rarity

[viral solar]

which quad?

[red hawk]

I was thinking of the gridmann calibur but that's an event thing it was just in the list of items near the others

[remote token]

Same thing, but gold and quadruple

[soft raft]

German 533 Quad

[soft raft]

The Quad

[viral solar]

?

[soft raft]

That is the Quint you are showing

[remote token]

A little to the left

[soft raft]

Quintuple is not the same as Quadruple

[viral solar]

This for trafalgar good?

[red hawk]

Oh I see they added the new event plane to the +13 prio guide image

[soft raft]

It's the best permanently available torpedoes period for auto battle

[whole crypt]

it's the best permanently available torpedoes including cost ratio

I wouldn't say it's strictly better than quint but it's much cheaper while delivering similar performance in general

[viral solar]

Why is this not on her best anti air set on yuudachi guide?

On slaimuda

[whole crypt]

because slaimuda isn't a good gear guide and has no context of what fits where

[viral solar]

this is not best for lion?

[ivory pawn]

It depends.™

[inland shoal]

Well the rainbow run is good cuz it has 15 hit
This is useless against Yuudachi cuz you're at 100% hit rate already anyway, so the FP from the gold gun is better

This is only if you run hit rate enhancers like Aurora/Chappy/Trafalgar tho

[ivory pawn]

Usually you’re not, so usually you’d prefer the extra HIT.

[viral solar]

ok i see

mannn why can't I see here what unit this is on right now

the icon is too small

[whole crypt]

it's on An Shan

you could also just try to equip it on someone else and it'll ask you if you want to strip it off (x) ship

[red hawk]

not that it really matters a ton, but PVP is grouped by server right

[brazen lotus]

Just wanted to double check, % dmg increase on a ship doesn't buff burn damage, but burns do scale with fp as the statmultiplier, right?

Like cv hunter or something

[inland shoal]

No (unimportant/helpful) gifs in this channel please

[forest palm]

as follows the core comp is Amagi + HKHO → Nano + HKHO (if you don't have Amagi), with 3rd slot being either Lion or Implacable (August for if you lack the mentioned 2). Haku can fit in as a third if the enemy doesn't move, but for all intents and purposes she's benched

[red hawk]

is there a chart or something on the wiki that lists the general xp/run and coins/run of 12-1 versus 12-4

[split gazelle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_12

[red hawk]

so if the coins are better, and higher xp, why not just always farm 12-4 for xp and coins? doesn't seem like that massive of a difference in cost

I guess I don't know how to calculate the average xp/oil cost between the two

I kinda roughly went with the middle xp mob value x6 + boss xp

so it's like .9 xp per oil better on 12-1 but you get better coins

[forest palm]

12-4 has more coin oil eff, 12-1 has more xp oil eff it's slight but adds up

I just auto brain 12-4 because that's my boomer quirk

[red hawk]

I mean I get that it is more of one than the other for farm, but it seems like just doing 12-4 right now for a bit wouldn't be a bad idea to get both

[white musk]

I cant find documentation on this anywhere- probably because its mostly useless

But I like knowing how far I need to go.

Does anybody know how many DR bp you need to get from 1-10/ 10-20 /20-30 dev level?

I know its 513 total, but no idea how thats split.

[hazy olive]

Is Asama any good?

[split gazelle]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[white musk]

[hazy olive]

I just got an Asama

Is it any good?

[fleet berry]

Sure for new-midgame players. 12-4 is the usual farming place for that reason.

12-1 is easier to 1-fleet with shitters which might entices lazy player (like me). Old farts can run 14-1/15-1 for chips too, but some are just too lazy to optimise for this.

[forest palm]

you can just straight farm 12-4 unless the ships you're using absolutely struggle to survive per run

[fleet berry]

12-4 boss is PITA to deal at 0 ammo, unlike 12-1.

[red hawk]

I went ahead and finished clearing 12 after I got 55k in event, I had been just farming 12-1 previously and not too worried about pushing

[white musk]

I farm my level level 70 ships on 12-1 until they hit level 95 ish

Makes it more consistent

[red hawk]

I use a boss fleet for now

[forest palm]

I don't care for boss node xp

[hazy olive]

?

[red hawk]

no

typical collab event shop level ship

[fleet berry]

Same, I just run my XF UR to save IRL time.

[red hawk]

completely forgettable, but you can farm enough dupes to mlb without bulins

[fleet berry]

If you rotate your ships in dorm properly, you don't even need to do this really. Maybe need to throw some books here and there

[red hawk]

yeah I'm terrible about dorm rotation, I just keep my fleet 1 in there

[white musk]

I uh
Just unlocked all my dorm slots.

Boss fleet gets bottom, mob top floor.

But yes, Im just lazy lol.

[fleet berry]

Why would you put your boss fleet in the dorm. You're not farming enough to low their morale that bad.

[red hawk]

lowest XP gets bottom, uni+ highest levels get morale

[red hawk]

im assuming for xp if they're not maxed

[white musk]

Mob fleets eat more morale than boss

[red hawk]

oh i guess

[white musk]

Too floor has more morale regen
Higher clear potential- i can forget about em

[red hawk]

I guess I wouldn't have enough oil after a bit to make that matter

[fleet berry]

No, you miss my point. Mob fleet on the 2nd floor is fine. They should be put on the 2nd floor.

Boss fleet wouldn't consume that much morale that the natural recovery rate is being overwhelmed.

Throw your low level ships on the 1st floor. You're wasting EXP.

[red hawk]

as it is if I don't take breaks from running whenever I have full morale down to nothing i run out of oil

[white musk]

Fair point

[red hawk]

oh actually that's a good point

if you're rocking a full dorm

I think that may be the next thing I spend my paid gems on

who should I build when I finish FDG in the next day or so

do I go for Gascgone?

[silent hearth]

I just got Shinano from the commander quests, she came with the item Greetings From Shinano, whats this for? i cant find any info about it

[white musk]

Agir, probably
If youve got tech points.

Shes coinable now

But if you dont have anchorage, shes also great.

[red hawk]

it's just an item for getting your UR ship

doesn't do anything. commerative

[silent hearth]

does it do anything other then sit in my inventory?

ah

[red hawk]

nope, and other ships you get you will get them too ocassionally like when they give away ships for events

[atomic abyss]

it doesnt take up any inventory space either

[red hawk]

yeah it doesn't count towards your storage count

[silent hearth]

Yeah i didnt get one for Hakuhou and im fairly new so shrug

[red hawk]

same with anniversary coins and stuff I believe

[red hawk]

haku is a gacha UR, we got letters for essex with a login event

and Shinano is handbook UR

so you didn't get one because you pulled Haku, the others you get letters for are special cases

[silent hearth]

Yeah is Essex pretty good after retro?

[red hawk]

very

did you get her retro item?

[silent hearth]

not yet, i have a ton of AVs and shes on my list to get up and running but im working on enterprise first (will probably actually work on Shinano now since my main fleet is mostly SE ships anyways

[red hawk]

her retro item was only available through the recent event so if you missed it you wont be able to retro her till it comes back around

[silent hearth]

ah that sucks. i only started a week ago so no biggie

[red hawk]

yeah there's plenty of other stuff that'll come around, I only started a few months ago, and I missed a couple big events previously too, but stuff comes back around and we get new shiny stuff

[remote token]

Meanwhile I had ~3 year break

[red hawk]

Just don't use your UR bulins on shinano, save those for your gacha URs like hakuhou

you'll get dupes of shinano over time from perma pool pity and stuff

haku more prio

[silent hearth]

im thinking of using Shinano-Hakuhou-Oumi as a mob fleet, or should i swap out Oumi for unicorn?

[atomic abyss]

that's bad fleet

if hakuhou isnt max limit broken

[red hawk]

swap out shinano

[silent hearth]

she is

[red hawk]

you need max limit breaks on everything and you shouldn't be MLB on shinano

[atomic abyss]

then yes swap shinano for unicorn

[silent hearth]

Thats pretty much what im running right now then

im using Oumi-Hakuhou-Unicorn for my main fleet, but i need to make a mob and a boss fleet, chapter 12 is just too much

[red hawk]

post your dock in a thread

in this channel

[red hawk]

make a separate thread

[red hawk]

so you can post your screens without flooding

[tranquil vine]

is DSP a decent enough tank for light armor opsi bossing?

[silent hearth]

ah sorry, i dont know how

[red hawk]

its the little spool in the top of the channel

click create

[silent hearth]

My fleet ZhadowReaper

[red hawk]

uhm, hes got some ships in here I definitely don't recognize and I don't see some of the standards like Portland, if anyone else can critique his fleets

I just recommended he work on bringing up the levels of the ships he will be using in his main/2nd fleets through the event instead of worrying about campaign progress rn

[remote token]

Damn. Meanwhile, I am such a boomer that I recognise every single one of them

[red hawk]

I don't know janus or minase, also who is supposed to be the tank

[remote token]

Minase is from this event though

[tranquil vine]

[red hawk]

he has pieces that can be used for sure, but I don't know enough about what he's invested in to give proper advice outside of not worrying about campaign progress for a bit

[red hawk]

oh yeah thats right I just haven't used her, my brain just didn't brain

I didn't recognize her with oath frame or w/e that is

[remote token]

I remember her because her introduction stuck in my head after getting her 5 times

[red hawk]

lol, she was my last to sweep on my main, took over 100 pulls, but then I pulled her multiple times in 10x pulls on my alt

like 2 copies 2x

[remote token]

I got everyone in 80

[red hawk]

I swept on both but I kept pulling a bit on main to try and see if I got anything good from perma/dupes for haku

not like trying to pull for dupes, but just fishing for w/e

[remote token]

Meanwhile, I speedrun 120 pulls just to finally get Shinano

[silent hearth]

Minase helped get me to chapter 11, her homing torpedo barrage is nice, but she's starting to fall off a bit

Meanwhile Oumi does 80% of my damage

[red hawk]

I would just focus on getting your ships up to 120, and then bringing in the other ships for a 2nd fleet, just farm D3 in event

but take oumi out for now because she's just eating xp you need to give others, and uni is the only ship you'll really be forced to keep in capped for sure

get at least 55k in the event before you worry about thinking about going back to the campaign

but it's gonna be easier than the campaign and allow you all those rewards from the event+map drops

[red hawk]

it's normal for your backline BB to do a large amount of damage, you also have her as your only capped ship and probably best geared. Uni isn't meant to do a lot of damage, and the rest of your ships are all various levels below

[remote token]

Ships also get buffed/nerfed depending on them having higher/lower level than enemies

[red hawk]

I just looked at my dock I have 4 copies and I didn't recognize her

[remote token]

Fox council will never forgive you this transgression

[red hawk]

this- if you're significantly below the enemy ships or above it it affects damage given and taken

[remote token]

I think it was capped at 20lvs of difference

[red hawk]

it's always easier to plug someone lower level in your back line than your vanguard

[fast frigate]

what should i switch for hakuhou? enterprise or unicorn

[brazen swift]

is this loadout good enough for haku? (for heavy armor content)

[red hawk]

if you're running a mob fleet you're gonna want to keep unicorn

[remote token]

It depends

If you struggle with survavibility then keep Uni, otherwise Enty

[strong tartan]

uni is a staple in any mob fleet so she should be there anyway

[forest palm]

don't use recommended loadouts from in-game

[remote token]

It really depends
I effortlessly got to chapter 13 with mono German fleets back when the only German URs were FdG and Aegir

[strong tartan]

it's not an it depends it's a ur gonna need a healer unless u are 100% confident u won't die but even then id take uni

[serene knoll]

Hi, I haven't played in a while and I'd like to invest my resources well, but I don't know which characters are best for story mode.

these are my ships

and team recommendations

[remote token]

"it's not an it depends"
"ur gonna need a healer unless u are 100% confident u won't die"
Which one is it then?

[strong tartan]

the first one..

[red hawk]

it's simple, uni should be in your mob fleet for life

[strong tartan]

did you also not read the last part of my message

[remote token]

The last part was preference

[red hawk]

it's just like, why would you ever take Uni out of mob fleet

she doesn't go anywhere else and she provides amazing utility for your fleets grinding levels and fighting multiple sorties

[tranquil vine]

DSP is gonna mchecking die if i try to use her as a tank for opsi bosses, yea?

[red hawk]

she's not a boss fleet ship

bosses aren't about lower damage and sustainablity like mob fleets

my mob fleet will live forever in an opsi boss fight but do a fraction of the damage of my boss fleet and my stuff isn't even optimized

[fast frigate]

anyone know approx date when guam gonna rerun

[strong tartan]

should be a few months from now

[rigid onyx]

late janurary early feb ish

[remote token]

Doesn't change the fact that she is not mandatory if your fleet survives more than fine without her

[tranquil vine]

ive been struggling to pick a tank for my "carriers vs light armor" opsi bossing fleet

[red hawk]

I mean theres a lot of less optimal setups you can do in the game that make stuff not mandatory, doesn't make it better

like obviously if you're going back to low level clear stages don't use capped ships and a full fleet but generally speaking if you're doing progression or grinding out levels, you're gonna want Uni for survivability

[tranquil vine]

i got santa fe in the middle and sandy in the back, i just need a front

[remote token]

Hard to help without list of your tanks

[tranquil vine]

i dont know who is a tank

[remote token]

Usually Heavy/Large Curisers

[strong tartan]

show dock in thread

[serene knoll]

[stark quiver]

what fight

[tranquil vine]

#1419550172656042057 near the top

[white musk]

I know that this tierlist tends to be outdated and lacks context for what stages to use these items on, but why would it reccomend LA-9 or a torpedo bomber over a second flapjack?

[stark quiver]

idk you can go ask in their disc server

[stark quiver]

just do laffey2

alternatively you can go grab anchorage or sth

[tranquil vine]

shes in a different opsi fleet

[stark quiver]

you mean the easiest campaign stages with overleveled fleets?
ofc anything would work lol

[tranquil vine]

im thinking just throw montpelier in

[remote token]

Someone's salty

[tranquil vine]

or say screw it we ball and run DSP anyway

[stark quiver]

i mean im not salty, im just saying not using a healer in the easiest stages is normal

[white musk]

w14 is when you need to actually tailor your fleets to the stages
You cant just steamroll with W/E falls under the category of "not garbo"

[stark quiver]

just take someone with decent ehp
its not hard to live in opsi really

[remote token]

Completely ignoring context and making assumptions

[viscid swift]

what

[white musk]

I dont think anyone is upset, why are you getting snippy?

[viscid swift]

where are you in the main campaign?
first thing you should do is get/level up and retrofit Unicorn though

[remote token]

Disregarding what I did in the past from the point of view of today and assuming things doesn't seem like calm either

[white musk]

I dont understand what the problem is
we're all here to help

[remote token]

Yeah, what is the problem?

[white musk]

???

[stark quiver]

[soft raft]

Why is it always the iron blood simps

[remote token]

How faction even is relevant?

[wispy cosmos]

who knows, you brought it up

[remote token]

Yeah, because back then, people were saying that IB is the weakest major faction

[silent hearth]

So if I'm farming the event stages for XP and resources should I just do hard mode? And if I'm able to easily clear D3 should I farm it or one of the other D stages?

[remote token]

D3 gives the most event currency, so personally, I see no reason to farm other stages

And there you have a chance to drop Asami if you care about her

[stark quiver]

its best for normal players
if you want to minmax oil:point ratio and have a lot of time, then a 4 oil fleet on b3 will be better
and requires decent gear and crossfleets

[silent hearth]

If the second fleet doesn't fight does it get any XP on stage clear?

[viscid swift]

no

[uneven knot]

do the high efficiency books give double xp aswell?

[rigid onyx]

yes

[uneven knot]

should i get the black shell or the breguet from the shop? i alr got the white shell

[fickle parcel]

Does a 404 comp beat out Wolfpack? If so, who should I run with 404?

[pseudo hearth]

Who should I be using my bulins on next?

[stark quiver]

hakuhou

[pseudo hearth]

IJN Carrier power creep is real

[stark quiver]

nano had a good run

[soft raft]

Think of those as doing 2 runs at once
So that means double everything (except # of runs) including the negatives

[pseudo hearth]

*Hakuryu

[stark quiver]

nano is gone if you use implac

[pseudo hearth]

Nano could arguably be used with Hakuhou and Amagi still, if one doesn’t need time stop

Which, not every boss moves around like crazy

[viscid swift]

IJN carriers as a whole are kinda dead

[pseudo hearth]

Explain? I’m curious of the reasoning.

[viscid swift]

Mecklenburg, Lion, Alsace once you factor in AA reduction do more damage than Implacable, Amagi, Hakuhou

[pseudo hearth]

Well, in my case, I don’t have Alsace, and probably won’t get Mecklenburg for a while still. Getting her up and running is also another beast.

[stark quiver]

does that require meck gun

[viscid swift]

I'd presume so

[pseudo hearth]

Yeah, I haven’t farmed the new PR stuff at all. I’m still catching up on past stuff.

[stark quiver]

i dont have meck unlocked

[viscid swift]

smh

[stark quiver]

smh my head

[soft raft]

The fuck happened here

[inland shoal]

0/36 certainly is interesting considering the max is 20 normally

[stark quiver]

secret ending

[weary gust]

Highest wave 999 is more odd.

[soft raft]

nvm the game apparently had a seizure

[inland shoal]

That at least is a variable number, those often end up at 999 (with variable number of 9s) in this game when stuff gets stuck loading

[silk helm]

ive been at 49 for 2 weeks 😭

[arctic snow]

are there other ships that dont count as dock space other than meta?

[rain vine]

nope

[arctic snow]

fuck

collection says i have 542 ships unlocked and i only have 517 in my dock (counting meta). i was filling the tech tracker and i now know 5 ships im missing, have no idea what the remaining 20 are

[forest palm]

retrofits factor into collection %

[arctic snow]

so, if i have a retrofit i should count it twice?

wait... if i count the retrofit ships, now im over by 10ish

[forest palm]

[arctic snow]

does retrofit count only if i have it 100%? i have some ships with retrofit form but not all upgrades

[forest palm]

well retrofits count for collection %, and are cataloged separately in the memento tab

you need to modernize the ship

[echo nexus]

anyone left that i should prioritise or is it now just a matter of doing who i like first

[forest palm]

Louis, Bayard, and maybe Daisen

it's more so what tech they have to offer

[echo nexus]

okie dokie, i’ll do them first then, tyy

[echo nexus]

ahh right, yeah i forgot about that part lol

[arctic snow]

i just counted my retrofits in memento tab, it totals 58, so defo not the 20 im missing, my guess is it counts for colletion% as you said, but i was taking into account the unlocked ships count

[forest palm]

I forget if collection % ticks over when you modernize the ship, or if you just fill out the retro board, but ya everything but collab ships count for collection %

[sonic arch]

Is it possible to stack ocean support with I-404 to get two out of range submarine call ins?

[vale spindle]

modernize cause thats when its actually treated as a different ship to the base one

[arctic snow]

well, guess i'll just have to count everything manually again. my guess rn is that im missing some μ ships or something, that dont count toward tech so not in tech tracker, since its what i initially used for comparison

but it shouldnt be the case since last time i had dock space problems and had to retire locked ships those didnt exist yet (or i didnt have any at least)

[viscid swift]

just as a heads up, retrofits don't show up when you filter by unobtained in momentos

[hollow viper]

Are there any accessible vanguard units that are tankier than Portland or just protect more. I do wanna work on Saratoga and get independence but I'm already feeling the squishiness on W9's first stage.

[rain vine]

what level is portland?

[hollow viper]

lvl100

[rain vine]

🤔 should still be fine if youre running her with unicorn
could be a damage problem and youre taking too long to get through the fight

[supple wraith]

gears also

[hollow viper]

youre probably right about taking too long. I depend heavily on my main fleet.

[arctic snow]

thanks, good thing i found out about this now or it could have been bad lol

[hollow viper]

I don't know what's really good or bad when it comes to gears.

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[vivid nebula]

Question. What is vanguard good at?

[hollow viper]

Also where can I see the enemy fleet info? Is it possible before the sortie?

[vivid nebula]

I am leveling some ships here and I just wanna know what I can use her for once she is maxed out

[vivid nebula]

Ah so she is a buffer/debuffer?

[rain vine]

enemy debuffer for bb fleets

[vivid nebula]

So her ideal comp is a full bb stack

[rain vine]

yes

[vivid nebula]

Does she follow the suchiguma bb gun tier list for BIS or does she have her own niche gun?

[supple wraith]

should follow, iirc the ship-specific recommendations have their own "section"

[vivid nebula]

Thanks guys!

[hollow viper]

Do you guys have any answer to this? I really don't know where to find the enemies for stages.

[sweet delta]

Only the at least somewhat relevant BBs like Musashi, not Massachusetts

[sweet delta]

For bosses themselves there is https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

For the trash mob fleets or even mobs inside boss battles, knowing them isn't so important but there is another website for that too

[vivid nebula]

Would a fleet like Vanguard, NJ, and Musashi be relatively ok against harbiter?

Thanks sushi

[hollow viper]

thanks man

[limber gorge]

I got a question: are the codes announced on the discord?

[sweet delta]

They are not officially announced by game staff, but there is a copy of twitter news at #game-news and the anniversary codes were pinned in some channels by discord admins

[limber gorge]

Thanks

[young helm]

Chat does a ship at level 125 getting xp contribute to PR combat data collection

[vivid nebula]

Yes

[young helm]

ty bbg

[pastel condor]

Who to build?

[vivid nebula]

Although, it doesn't make sense to do so. You could be leveling up ships while working towards the PR xp requirements at the same time

[vivid nebula]

Lion, Soyuz, Alsace, Amagi CV

[pastel condor]

In that order?

[vivid nebula]

Lion being top priority

[pastel condor]

Ok

[vivid nebula]

The rest are in no particular order

[pastel condor]

Man tf is wrong with the current banner I'm not getting shit

And I'm about to hit pity

[vivid nebula]

It do be like that at times

[soft raft]

your luck simply just is on a bad trip
also #al-general is that way

[young helm]

Yee ofc I just dont really have any other sardegna ships i wanna work on/cba to swap gear around rn

[vivid nebula]

Right

[viscid swift]

how many bullins can you get?

[grizzled mortar]

anyone here I should be using bulins on w priority?

[vivid nebula]

Oumi I think

Is there potential here?

[grizzled mortar]

Prolly not gonna bulin her while still doing 10-pulls for haku lol

[pastel condor]

2

[viscid swift]

start work on Lion I guess and keep going until she's MLB

[viscid swift]

about the best start you could ask for

[pastel condor]

Just need one more bought 2 from the shop

How do I unlock the sp stage in event

There's nothing past b3

[rapid shard]

Does Hakuhou need a IJN plane in the fighter slot? Running Ryusei in 1st and Ryusei Kai in 3rd atm

[pastel condor]

There's no c stages for me

[rapid shard]

Click the hard mode at the bottom left

[pastel condor]

There's no hard mode option at all!

[mint flint]

take a screenshot

[rapid shard]

have you 3 stared the stage?

[pastel condor]

Oh wait no

There is!why did they do it like that this time

[mint flint]

its been like this for a while

[uneven knot]

is research 7 the best one for gear?

[hoary relic]

Tie with pr8 i'd say

Both have the best ur gear for end game contents

[soft raft]

PR8? Really?

I have heard jack squat about PR8 gear besides the UR gun and at best Gouden gun

[hoary relic]

Didnt i say ur gear not sr gear?

[soft raft]

pretty sure that's not what you said at first prior to the edit but eh

[thick parrot]

Is the best thing to do with this is to analyze it?

[vocal niche]

ugh I thought I've finished upgrading Roon then that fate sim feature just shown up, cant imagine how long it would take if I want to research my first DR

[uneven knot]

ngl im skipping the fate sim for too apparently it doesn’t do much

[vocal niche]

so I can use Roon now? nice

[steel swift]

Does this buff effect work for Bismarck zwei?

[viscid swift]

yes

[steel swift]

Okay, thanks man

[plush path]

Yes. You can spend coins to fate sim pr5 golds and below. You get 2 free each day for 1 gold so you could put those into roon each day if she’s the only dev30 ship you have.

Id immediately go for fdg if you can unlock her so that you can also get 2 free blueprints a day for her once researched

[uneven knot]

who should i prioritize bulins on now

i was lowkey thinking enterprise cause sandy is so expensive

[vocal niche]

thanks

[turbid marsh]

I would vote sandy because you have enough back lines I think

I mean with your fleet it’s easy to go event d3 or 11-1 so I would say sandy gets more usage right after ue + retrofit….

[uneven knot]

roger that i’ll start gathering the blueprints

[normal crane]

Who's worth to mlb?

[stark quiver]

who do you have MLB'd already
or are these all the URs you have

[whole crypt]

considering the bulins and Hindenburg are there I don't think he's filtered by LB-able

buuuuut that is a strange lineup to have unless he's been skipping the game intermittently

[stark quiver]

im too tired

[whole crypt]

seems like someone who started in the last year or so, rushed Hindenburg and missed a few gacha URs

my honest answer would be to just finish BisZwei then hold out and wait for Unzen rerun/Musashi archive

and we'll be looking at December UR soon enough

[mossy stratus]

Any planes recommendations for hakuhou?

[whole crypt]

depends on where you're using her

[supple wraith]

do I buy t2 dev containers in OpSi shops?

[hoary relic]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#main-fleet-weapons-cv-airplanes

[hoary relic]

no

dont buy sr design plans, t2 mats containers

[whole crypt]

nothing wrong with SR designs if you're still short

[stark quiver]

should i add that in my guide

[whole crypt]

just don't buy materials purple and below

[supple wraith]

actually question, which gears should I be prio-crafting from gear lab?

[whole crypt]

unless you're clearing pre-reset shop

[supple wraith]

am still pre-reset yea

[hoary relic]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/#gear_lab

[wind hazel]

Wyvern, ju87

[red hawk]

are gold hellcats good for anything?

[rain bobcat]

wait, is hakuhou actually better than hakuryuu in the triple ijn comp

[rain bobcat]

typical 2x500 gold plane

[opaque galleon]

Which tool do you use to gear ships to view timings?

[stark quiver]

there was infact more

[red hawk]

idk what that means

[stark quiver]

2x 500 pound bombs

[rain bobcat]

barely any difference to other 2x500lb fighters

[knotty jolt]

They were once the best fighters cause of their ordinance amount and of the fighters with two 500 lbs bombs it had the best anti air capabilities

[red hawk]

ill have to look and see what else is in that space

[stark quiver]

bismack zwei good

[red hawk]

I'll look it up I just don't know the planes off the top of my head to know loadouts

[normal crane]

[knotty jolt]

They've been power crept by the two half ton bomb fighters

[rain bobcat]

any thoughts

[stark quiver]

a lot vbetter

[rain bobcat]

btw will implac yk2 enty kill temperence hard if theres no skyraider

assuming no lena since I have helena on heavy

[tranquil vine]

are there any ships that can give exp gain up to german/italian/dutch vanguards?

[normal crane]

Anyone else? I still have enough to mlb 3 more ship, planning to use mlb unzen when her rerun came.

[stark quiver]

mayb hakuhou/z52 future
also unzen prob not as important

just do zwei for now and we will see how december UR is

[red hawk]

so I'm better off using flapjacks

[stark quiver]

yes

[tranquil vine]

im trying to prep a fleet to farm exp for leeuw

[normal crane]

The thing is my motivation to play this game is actually Unzen

[rain bobcat]

if you have ordnance to actually craft many sure

[knotty jolt]

Literally the hellcats best use is upgrading to flapjacks lol

[stark quiver]

wrong reply

[red hawk]

I made 2 fairly early on when I was figuring out opsi

[red hawk]

isn't it the corsair that upgrades to them

[tranquil vine]

ok so based on my knowledge, there are no german/italian/dutch vanguards (or main fleet ships) who can buff the exp gain of them?

[hoary relic]

[tranquil vine]

yes it is, the f6f upgrades into the f7f or f8f

[stark quiver]

no

[knotty jolt]

Btw there are ships that boost universal XP for ship types like yuubari for cruisers but since she's IJN it's usually better to just use a third ship of the faction.

[tranquil vine]

yea.

[knotty jolt]

The ships that boost XP are usually relegated only for PR ships that match their faction

[opaque galleon]

Does anyone know if gouden leeuw airstrike messes with battleship salvos?

[tranquil vine]

amazon, yuubari, houshou/langley, argus, nurnberg for subs...?

[vague oracle]

what gears did you guys use for anchorage

[tranquil vine]

ive been struggling to keep my exp farming fleet alive in D3

[stark quiver]

yes

[rain bobcat]

typical CA gears with fast torps

[opaque galleon]

Most important is fast torps, French doubles or triples, or German triples

[red hawk]

you shouldn't need subs to keep your fleet alive in d3

you shouldn't need subs in d3

[stark quiver]

what if they want to level subs

[tranquil vine]

eh, my subs' exp are fine

[knotty jolt]

They're trying to level other ships

[opaque galleon]

Eww ijn gold sub

[tranquil vine]

im farming exp for leeuw.
and the frontpos ship keeps melting

[red hawk]

the xp is fine, but they were asking about subs and I got confused was just saying that's not the fix

[knotty jolt]

Equip them with washing machines and rudders/naval camo and toolkits for the DD

[opaque galleon]

Why are you not using Heinrich main tank?

[tranquil vine]

...attilio is my highest level ship that's eligible for the mission

[stark quiver]

prob cuz shes level 70

[tranquil vine]

Lv. 70

[red hawk]

level 70 is pretty low for that tbh, I had trouble even with a fully broken eugen at 80 with gear staying alive

[hoary relic]

[knotty jolt]

Ya can just try grinding on lower levels tbh

[opaque galleon]

Level 70 can definitely survive with uni, what is your gear setup?

[red hawk]

maybe if you had better gear or ships around it but that seems low

[hoary relic]

[rain bobcat]

if a lvl 70 is dying with uni thats just gear issue no??

[eternal moth]

Can someone explain to me why the PR8 rainbow gun is so much better than champy? What am I missing? It's faster, yes, but it's also giving up 50 damage. Is the 1 less spread and 5 AP modifier really worth that much?

[opaque galleon]

It’s a quad

[eternal moth]

I guess It's only giving up 24 damage for a second faster. That makes it a little more evident.

[knotty jolt]

4 bullets > 3 bullets

[eternal moth]

By that logic KGV gun should be really good.

[opaque galleon]

It has better armor mods and the modifier is 125%, not 110% like on champy gun

[molten zinc]

faster reload, extra 20 FP, better mod, etc

[stark quiver]

peak azuzu

[eternal moth]

I guess I was just mentally throwing away the extra 7 damage per shell.

[opaque galleon]

It’s all in the damage modifier actually.

The base damage is actually higher than champy gun even without considering faster reload, 20FP and tighter spread

[whole crypt]

not max level filter I guess

[vague oracle]

good enough?

[stark quiver]

yes

[opaque galleon]

Yeah, though if you have another gold evasion aux like beaver tag or ice bomb, you could use that if anchorage is your main tank

[vague oracle]

alright got it

[knotty jolt]

Cosmic kicks work too, plus they also boost speed like beaver badge albeit not as much

[opaque galleon]

Speed boost isn’t good unless you are a manual andy

[stark quiver]

speed boost is good

[forest palm]

good for auto to ram your ships hard an fast

seriously though the propensity the AI has to ram and throw your ships into the line of fire is funny

[supple wraith]

where can we get Cosmic Kicks?

[noble pawn]

bro's edging

[wind hazel]

War archive, i think passionate polaris

[rain bobcat]

are there any other carriers that give +exp like langley

[strong tartan]

houshou + argus

[whole crypt]

speed doesn't do very much for PvE unless you're just using 3 very slow ships

very fast vanguards can just end up taking damage from ramming or running into more projectiles than otherwise

the only time we really built for speed was Arizona META because the fog stacked debuff the longer you stayed in it

[rapid shard]

For the retrofit pieces do you hav a higher chance at gold ones for higher world levels? or is it just same RNG at all worlds above 3

[noble pawn]

the higher world, higher chance getting gold

[wind hazel]

nobody knows for sure but higher world give higher core data, so do higher world

[whole crypt]

what doesn't the buyout price for this event's shop include on wiki

[strange sphinx]

they think they're Morgador

[errant vector]

is there any way to scrap a meowfficer other than enhance feeding it to another meowfficer?

[tropic tusk]

no just feed on cats with exp then use that exp cat as a big exp booster if u know wt i mean

[whole crypt]

glowworm retrofit also exists now

[strange sphinx]

[woven star]

The most strange thing that they still nothing make for deleting cats

[vague oracle]

perseus and unicorn is good for stage 12 hard mode yeah?

stage requires 2 cvl

[woven star]

Not sure for bossing but still can use them while clearing the stage

[verbal plinth]

do you get enough data sync to max out a meta without having to do 3x other peoples

[wind hazel]

only requires 1 cvl 1 cv

[woven star]

Independence imo better for cv slot

[wind hazel]

indep is a CVL

just use a good CV like Essex or something

[vague oracle]

aight

[rigid onyx]

not worth double stacking main healers

[woven star]

Ah. Nvm then. I just remember that she is in one of my cross fleet

[rigid onyx]

you just whiff preloads into empty water and tank your overall dps. w12h is easy enough to get away with it

[vague oracle]

i see

[woven star]

If you have BisZ then good to slot her. Iirc most of bosses are double so good to have control for them

[supple wraith]

is there a way to estimate how long it will take me to coin a ship from a specific dev progress?

like say I have dev20 now, how many days to dev30?

[wind hazel]

there are graphs here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shipyard#Coins
just need to do some maths

[supple wraith]

cool thanks

am kinda tempted to use PR1 selectors on Monarch, yall think its worth?

[wind hazel]

no

[supple wraith]

I know we can convert to Data but I still have the entire catchup to do anw

[wind hazel]

having better gear faster is better than having monarch fs5

[supple wraith]

yea but like my concern is I will finish Anchorage soon and that's prio to coin so my Monarch will stay under dev30 who I plan on using for OpSi stuff

[wind hazel]

i just dont think monarch is gonna make or break your teams from what i've seen in your thread

[supple wraith]

oh ogei

[mossy stratus]

Tyy

[wind hazel]

you probably can get a nelson retro and lv120 faster than coining monarch

[rain haven]

Are these worth it?

[rain bobcat]

when ur not broke yes

[grizzled creek]

Do I wanna pick any of these

[rain bobcat]

not broke meaning >600 cubes

[supple wraith]

icic, I'll look into her as I'm currently just missing the last node for Eldridge Retro

[wind hazel]

yes, it's part of your daily missions, you'll finish them naturally

[grizzled creek]

Which do u recommend

[wind hazel]

none in particular, just play the game, you'll complete them naturally

[grizzled creek]

Ok so just do it in order

[hard ocean]

They can all be completed

[split gazelle]

Ideally pick the one you are currently focusing on in shipyard because you can't change the series iirc

[whole crypt]

what doesn't the buyout price for this event's shop include on wiki

[grizzled creek]

I think I’m just on series 1 for that I believe idek anymore I’m a returning player been a long time

[whole crypt]

pick one you have a ship finished for or the one you're working on otherwise yes you'll be stuck for the last task and can't move on

[verbal plinth]

most of those takes awhile to complete you cant just do one and then another

[grizzled creek]

It’s her I’m working on I guess

[split gazelle]

then yeah pick series 1

[grizzled creek]

Ok

[supple wraith]

doesn't Oumi and Nelson compete for flag spot? Which would you prefer getting Flag mayhaps?

[wind hazel]

oumi wants it more than nelson

all your BB wants flag but oumi really wants it more than musashi or nelson

[whole crypt]

I won't be so sure about getting Nelson retrofit, depends on whether you're working on other retrofits

coining Monarch can take like a month? and if your RNG is bad working on Unicorn plus another 1 or 2 ships you may not have the retrofit prints needed

[supple wraith]

I already finished Sandy and just missing 3 prints on last node for Eldridge

[whole crypt]

that said unlocking Monarch also costs blueprints so

[split gazelle]

they need 3rd BB for opsi team. besides musashi and oumi

[whole crypt]

no other rainbows?

[supple wraith]

no, am a returnee

stopped on NJ banner rerun I think, sometime after Musashi

[whole crypt]

I'm inclined to say Monarch plus augment is less dead than Nelson retrofit but costs

[wind hazel]

it's honestly either you pick another BB like Nelson or just rush coin Monarch after Anchorage. i'm just against using the blanks because i value protocore more for faster better gear

[split gazelle]

or maybe hood if they have a stash of gold bulins

[wind hazel]

nelson is cheaper

[supple wraith]

well the main concern is I'm tackling OpSi this reset, Monarch is dev20, Anchorage is unlocked in 3 days who has prio coining, and Monarch wont get Dev30 before Anchorage is available for coining

[wind hazel]

nah fuck hood lul

[whole crypt]

Hood doesn't fit for boss fleet

oh if you already have a partially completed Monarch then just stick with her

[wind hazel]

this reset as in this month or october

[whole crypt]

I was considering from scratch

[supple wraith]

this coming reset cause I finished Chapter 4 this month

so October I should be hitting OpSi hard

[wind hazel]

wanna know the best way? coin both, be poor like Rhazil

[supple wraith]

I mean sure ig

[split gazelle]

permanent poverty

[supple wraith]

but man, idk if I can even afford that

[whole crypt]

eh I'd finish Monarch first and work with a ghetto tank meanwhile

[split gazelle]

thats why you farm 12-4

[supple wraith]

oil is limited and 12-4 spam only gets like 2.4k per run?

[whole crypt]

Anchorage is 0 now and Monarch is already like halfway in

[split gazelle]

ghetto tank being phoenix

[supple wraith]

I need like what, 10k per day to coin both noh?

[whole crypt]

Portland preferable

[supple wraith]

hey I have Porty Eldridge and Phoenix tanking for my 3 fleets

[whole crypt]

Monarch and Anchorage shares discounts you can't get discounted for both

[wind hazel]

idk probably more than 10k lol, cause you stop getting discount

[supple wraith]

at least one of those is actually good noh

[whole crypt]

Eldridge is shit if not retrofitted

[wind hazel]

you can slow down on anchorage, if you do her catchup

[supple wraith]

she's retro'ed just missing last node

[whole crypt]

then go Portland/Eldridge

[wind hazel]

maybe can do 10 monarch 6 anchorage

[supple wraith]

I'm doing her catchup yes

[whole crypt]

Phoenix can go to mob and you're set, do Anchorage later

[supple wraith]

ye that's the plan

for the fleets at least

[wind hazel]

how many is anchorage catchup again, 150 or 300

[supple wraith]

300

[noble pawn]

300

[supple wraith]

I'm thinking I rush this for sure and just convert the excess I get from catchup

[wind hazel]

it's basically done lol, dev25 is all you need to get her last bulk, dev30 is bonus

[supple wraith]

dev25 is 223 prints yea

[wind hazel]

just rush monarch then

[supple wraith]

oh ogei

[noble pawn]

Plymouth

[supple wraith]

am currently doing 10 per day, should I up it?

[wind hazel]

nah 10 is good

[supple wraith]

goodbye Nelson

[wind hazel]

probably want to save some coin, next month we got events, and maybe rerun etc

[supple wraith]

ngl research is the thing draining my coin

[wind hazel]

will always be until you finished shipyard

[whole crypt]

Unzen rerun is next, not super high priority and ironically I'd say getting Owari will be more impactful for now

[wind hazel]

at least until you get the relevant ships, can ignore the rest if you dont wanna

[supple wraith]

oh do the tickets from reruns still cost gold to build with?

[wind hazel]

no

[supple wraith]

wait, then why?

[vocal niche]

will ships' affection decreased if they were ded while farming

[supple wraith]

I thought I shouldnt use cubes on reruns

[wind hazel]

cause you might not get the UR from 44 tickets

[supple wraith]

or does that only apply to ppl who already have the UR

[wind hazel]

i'd probably still gamba on unzen

unzen is still top dps vanguard

[supple wraith]

hmmmst

[whole crypt]

spending cubes on rerun is generally lower priority than saving for new ones, if you're low I'd skip on Unzen honestly

but like I said for the more immediate future Owari will likely be more impactful

[supple wraith]

am basically at 200 rn hmst

that's the dark-skinned oni gyaru right?

[whole crypt]

yes, and a very good BB

[noble pawn]

Owari is good?

[whole crypt]

still among the top end for SR BBs

[supple wraith]

Marin but dark skin

[whole crypt]

and if he's using Oumi in boss fleet he'll want another one for mob

[wind hazel]

you missed the line where i said he has musashi and oumi...

[whole crypt]

I didn't

[supple wraith]

man, my setup is so scuffed huh

[split gazelle]

mine wasn't any better starting opsi

[whole crypt]

Musashi Oumi Monarch for boss
Owari for mob

[wind hazel]

mob can be whatever lol

[supple wraith]

do people usually already have multiple UR BBs at this point already?

[wind hazel]

probably owari would even be better in boss

[whole crypt]

depends on how long these "people" have played for

[noble pawn]

when did you start the game? few months?

[split gazelle]

if you get lucky with events, otherwise no

[supple wraith]

years ago but I just got back basically 2 weeks ago

[split gazelle]

i.e. raff lion bis2 events in my case

[whole crypt]

👴 will obviously have every UR BB there is to date

so that depends on what your comparison is

[supple wraith]

yea but it seems like other people asking OpSi stuff here have like shitton more stuff than I have or am I just speeding too fast for this stuff

[whole crypt]

more like you just haven't been playing enough because you were out for some years

[wind hazel]

they play during UR events more than you

[supple wraith]

ig

[whole crypt]

everything takes time to stockpile

[split gazelle]

a lot of people ignore opsi until they get told all good gear comes from it tbh

[supple wraith]

okay what if: I use selector on NJ and bulin her. BB Problem solved lfggg

[woven star]

At least few fleets cv and bb for boss

[supple wraith]

[whole crypt]

it doesn't help that for newer players OS is a mess when you first step into it

[hard ocean]

Is there a reason to rush? I feel like you could just take your time and get everything you've mentioned no?

[noble pawn]

my NJ is still usable don't worry. Next UR event is so long

[split gazelle]

yeah thats valid

[noble pawn]

Opsi resets in 8 days

[grizzled creek]

For farming retrofit parts I wanna be on the highest chapter of story I can do? Or is there a cap at the drop rate

[supple wraith]

nah am just meme-ing with the NJ, probably leaning more on Shinano actually if I do consider using bulins on that selector anw cause Hakuhou synergy

[split gazelle]

Yesn't, rushing can be beneficial if that means you get access to more resources early on. Like opsi, higher level daily raids etc. It all adds up eventually imo

[wind hazel]

ye just do highest

[grizzled creek]

It’s better rates constantly the higher I get?

[supple wraith]

honestly, what I've been doing since I've rushed Sandy and Eldridge b2b is 3-star the hard modes that drop those cause those are guaranteed retro prints

[wind hazel]

no, just for higher core data

[whole crypt]

I'd recommend not rushing it, missing one month isn't much if you keep playing consistently, and you may spend more time recovering resources spent for rushing but have little use after

[grizzled creek]

Hm

[supple wraith]

me with 0 exp books now

[grizzled creek]

Is chapter 9 high enough or should I try pushing higher before farming

[noble pawn]

go back to 12-4

[whole crypt]

if you rush for NJ and LB her now you might come up short should Dec UR end up being a better investment

[wind hazel]

the higher the better

[whole crypt]

since Unzen is also in between

and there's fair chance Dec is another double UR event

[supple wraith]

my class hall is filled with exp

[supple wraith]

dw am just meme-ing with the NJ, the fleet setup Mori and Rhazil setup for me seems pretty serviceable for me anw

[grizzled creek]

Well I guess chapter 10 can drop gold weapons so I’ll try n farm there for now

Is level 115 team strong enough for chapter 10 hard

Like 115-120

[wind hazel]

why stop there, go 12H

[grizzled creek]

U think I can do it without pushing my team further ? Should I send the team

[wind hazel]

yeah im not psychic, can't see what you're using without seeing

[supple wraith]

I did Chapter 12 normal mode with 105-115 ships except Uni who was 125

[supple wraith]

I think you can hit Hard with 115-120

[wind hazel]

2nd fleet is very underleveled lol

[noble pawn]

2nd fleet gonna die fast with 1 mob fight

[wind hazel]

i have doubt even on w11...

[supple wraith]

oh you kinda need to up that 2nd fleet right?

[grizzled creek]

Ok so I’ll just farm chapter 9

I’m still working on Fleet 2

[wind hazel]

probably worth trying w10 with fleet 1, alsace will carry

[noble pawn]

Chapter 10 is passable I guess

[supple wraith]

can also consider farming D3 mobs on fleet 2 + Boss on Fleet 1 unless you hit 55k already if you going for EXP

[grizzled creek]

I know team 1 can clear D3 solo fully so if 10 hard is roughly the same

[faint bobcat]

If i've MLB the UR, and have 1+ copies of the R/SR is there any more point to pulling on the event banner? or should i go back to Light pool now

[rapid shard]

Yeah switch to light cause collab and rerun UR event coming in future so you need to build your cubes back up

[fierce lantern]

Should I skip unzen if she ever gets rerun

[tropic tusk]

shes useful here so its up to u

[fierce lantern]

Does that mean she’s for the boss node

[tropic tusk]

yes w14 boss node only

[split gazelle]

you should get her regardless imo

[fierce lantern]

What else is she use for

[tropic tusk]

probly some times meta fights

as new meta comes u never know if shes needed or not

[split gazelle]

she isn't only used for w14 boss. you can still use her in the other categories for example.

[steel swift]

How to use this missile?

[split gazelle]

on a DDG

[steel swift]

What is DDG?

[split gazelle]

a different hull, DDG's are like An Shan, Tai Yuan, Fu Shun retrofits

[supple wraith]

its a special type of DD that uses missiles instead of torps

[steel swift]

So it has to be retrofit first?

[supple wraith]

I have a question actually, what does the missile strike do?

[split gazelle]

Yes, that's where they get their DDG class

[steel swift]

Okay, thanks man

[split gazelle]

No clue myself, https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Guided-missile_destroyers this might help

During sorties, a special AoE missile strike can also be fired that'll reduce enemy HP for all hit escort fleets.

[supple wraith]

oh interesting

[wind hazel]

DDG missiles in action

[boreal wagon]

u mean ddgv missiles in action

[supple wraith]

oh, I meant this one****

is it basically just: decrease the HP of the enemies that spawn in that fleet?

[fleet berry]

~~The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. ~~

It's just an attack that will reduce the enemy HP around that region.

[supple wraith]

is the first part a reference to something? If so, I kinda wanna know where its from

[split gazelle]

search it on youtube, the sentence

[fleet berry]

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-missile-knows-where-it-is

[supple wraith]

me trying to understand what they're saying:

[fleet berry]

But the point was DDG missiles are basically automatically timed attack. It's a bit difficult to see because the screen is usually very busy, but Mori has a nice screenshoot above.

DDGs also has support airstrikes which can reduce enemy HP around a certain zone. I can't remember whether it affects boss or not though, cause W15's support does not.

[gritty spear]

I have already noticed that the bottom button unlocks the possibility of using these blueprints in the shop (otherwise, the game treats them as intended for further ship upgrades after level 30). But what does the button next to it do? "Batch Analysis"? Does pressing it change anything?

[muted wind]

that button should just select all blueprints (if the checkbox is checked, only those that you don't need for fate sim)

[vivid nebula]

Hi. Is 12-4 still the go to grind spot for coins/xp?

Or is it safe for me to take lvl 115s into 13-4 (safe)?

[muted wind]

kind of? if you want more coins, you can go higher, if you want more exp you can go lower, but it's at least a good balance

[vivid nebula]

Wait. Why more xp lower?

[wind hazel]

13-4 need some sort of carries

[muted wind]

oil cap and the exp gain in each stage lead to... unexpected situations with exp/oil

[vivid nebula]

Ahhh

[muted wind]

not that it's a major difference

[vivid nebula]

Also, whats the next update for?

[muted wind]

oath skins, i think? not sure if that included anything else

[vivid nebula]

Ah, right. Thanks!

Is there a guide for what talents are good for what meowfficers

[split gazelle]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[eternal basalt]

Island, Taihou dorm

[supple wraith]

is the 30 min worth taking even tho I focus PR8?

or just take Meck face?

[eternal basalt]

IF you want the PR V DR gun... if not go Meck

[agile patrol]

is there a point to refilling my dorm food if all the ships there are already levelled/capped and don't need the XP?

[fleet berry]

Ply gun is still BiS for CL, so I'll take it.
@eternal basalt It's PR5 rigging, not face/cube.

[violet grail]

I want to start levelling a second fleet while my first one is low on morale, just wanted to see if my choice of ships is okay. I've got 8 prototype bulins 8 universal bulins and 3 specialized bulins at the moment.

I was gonna go with hakuhou, dunkerque meta, centaur, portland, kazagumo, Z1.

I assume people will say I need something other than dunkerque, I just dont have many BB options in my dock and she wouldnt take up any bulins, shes already max somatic activation, skills lv 10 and 9 and rigging fortification 66%. Not sure how long it might take me to get that last specialized bulin for haku.

[eternal basalt]

Dr gun... forgot a word...

[soft osprey]

Is Bismarck Zwei (flagship) Fritz Rumey Mecklemburg Ägir Z52 and Hundenburg, all 125 oathed, all MLB a good team?

[undone plover]

Good > yes
Optimal > no

[wind hazel]

raise someone more worthwhile investing like Nelson if you have her, instead of dunkM

[violet grail]

Hm, I do have Nelson, and a second elite ship works well with my current bulins, sounds good thanks!

[supple wraith]

I am lowkey considering a PR pack but also am close to getting Anchorage, anyone else worth getting mayhaps?

[wind hazel]

eehh...

[split gazelle]

avp if anything probably

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[supple wraith]

I probably should've done it for Anchorage huh

[split gazelle]

am I reading this right, you still have to coin to FS5 from dev30 even if you buy the pack

[soft raft]

Yes

[supple wraith]

yes I think, cause the pack gives 343 prints

[split gazelle]

then probably not worth it

[soft raft]

They only give enough BPs to D30

[soft raft]

Eh it's not like all fate sims are busted
Anchorage's FS5 essentially just adds a single line of torps to her barrage for example

[split gazelle]

well I mean for AvP specifically. cause her fs5 is well mandatory almost iirc

[supple wraith]

oh 100% slow > stop is helpful ig

basically mini-Implacable

[split gazelle]

AvP / Ark Royal are the go to slows if you don't have implac

[supple wraith]

do I need one for OpSi or we just ball?

[split gazelle]

you need one for opsi yeah

[supple wraith]

oof welp

trust in Eldridge slow

so ideally I time Flagship airstrike to go first so the slow lasts for the entire strike assumming I'm synced, bet time to cry

[wind hazel]

you just make avp goes 2nd, and make them within 0.2s from one another

you also want a few TBs and fighters and whatnot before you start seeing the desired results

[split gazelle]

it uhh... takes a while

[wind hazel]

that's part of the reason why i said eehh...

anchorage is the only really valuable one imo

well probably monarch too now, if you just started without any good BB

before this even izumo is a value purchase if you're whaling

[ember swan]

hi chat is there any better way to get purple retrofit blueprints, or is hardmode the only way to get it

[wind hazel]

you can craft up from T1, sometimes they appear on guild shop too

[robust onyx]

They appear in the honor shop also if i remember correctly

[ember swan]

i assume its not really worth buying from the honor shop since its 60 for one

[robust onyx]

Your correct in it not being worth it

[ember swan]

thank you chat, bill me for 4 hours

[bleak skiff]

Is i404 worth MLB?

[forest palm]

she's worth, but it depends on what other UR you have that aren't MLB

[bleak skiff]

These are my URs

Was thinking of either unzen or i-404?

[wind hazel]

i'd just wait until unzen rerun, see if you got dupes or not, then decide

[turbid marsh]

could always wait for unzen rerun to see if you can get some dup from those 40 pulls XD

[gilded carbon]

My standard-pity is about reached once more. Can i Go with whoever given Shinano is maxed? None of the other seem particularly stand out with my roster in mind

[onyx flame]

From what i heard the other good pick is vanguard from standard

[forest palm]

Vanguard is the next pick especially if you lack Lion

[gilded carbon]

I do lack Lion. Vanguard it is. Thanks

Otherwise i would have gone with NJ or so. For completion

[hoary relic]

what boss fleet r u using rn? BB or CV

[remote token]

Is this gun worth using on Shimanto given her 2nd skill or nah?

[bleak skiff]

uvh shinano hakuhou

[hoary relic]

in this case.... i guess u should hoard your bulins

dev30 hakuryuu then replace uvh

[bleak skiff]

should I still get the 2nd i404 copy?

[bleak skiff]

I can just coin it right?

[hoary relic]

yep

[bleak skiff]

Is there like a calculator for how much gold I need to coin it over a period of time?

[hoary relic]

iirc it would cost u 22k per day for 15 prints

[bleak skiff]

so 22k per day over 15 days?

[remote token]

Or you could just do 2 prints per day for free

[hoary relic]

15 prints per day for 22k coins

[bleak skiff]

Im ngl I havent even been doing the free prints

So is event still worth grinding

after I get the gear, asama and both 404 copies

[remote token]

?

[hoary relic]

in case u dont buy skin boxes for 20k like me, i guess u can stop at 55k milestone for 10 plates

[bleak skiff]

wait so what should I save my bulins for tho?

Arent UR ships few and far between throughout the year

[remote token]

Yeah, but monthly cap on specialized cores allows you to buy only 1.25 URins

[hoary relic]

just hoard them tho, NJ and shima isnt worthy to use bulins for cuz they are in perm pool

while unzen is gonna rerun soon, so i guess u can get her dupes

[bleak skiff]

and i404 isnt worth using bulins on?

[split gazelle]

2 total if you include the spec cores from medal shop.

[hoary relic]

lack of uses cuz she is a sub

u should consider using bulin for i404

[remote token]

Not even
Medal shop gives 2k, monthly cap has 5k
1 URin costs 4k

[bleak skiff]

okay so I have 3 bulins and I can mlb my i404 should I go for that?

[split gazelle]

medal shop gives 3k

[hoary relic]

erm not at all, as i said subs are lacking of uses

[remote token]

Nvm, I missed the other one

[bleak skiff]

yeah alright

Whats the best sub fleet I can make anyways

[split gazelle]

96 81 37

[remote token]

?

[hoary relic]

i guess 155mm kai still better

[brazen lotus]

Depends if you're dying to planes

[remote token]

Fair enough

I'll +10 one just in case then

[brazen lotus]

Fate sim removes that weapon requirement if I'm not wrong

[remote token]

I've had enough for just dev25 so can't verify that

[river junco]

Yeah, Shimanto FS5 makes her no longer requires the 150mm for the extra 30% aa efficiency

[onyx flame]

from what i read use it if you havent fs5 her, then once you have you can swap off

[remote token]

Don't think there's need given there's catch up

[tranquil crescent]

should i use I-404 in my main sub fleet even tho not mlb?

[frozen stag]

is this worth to get anchorage faster or just grind

[wind hazel]

combat data pack's only purpose is to be turned into protocore

just grind the exp, turn any CDC you have into protocore

[silk helm]

is unzen powercrept?

[eager mulch]

by what

[wind hazel]

by 11-3

[silk helm]

by z52 m aybe?

[wind hazel]

no

[silk helm]

unzen is just a vangaurd dps?

[turbid marsh]

yeah, a powerful one, especially with amagi

[soft raft]

But most often you won't be using the two of them together

[wind hazel]

huh

[spark patio]

should i stop farming at 60k points then mlb Asama with 2 bulins and push campaign?

[wind hazel]

depends on whether you wanna buy 2nd copy of 404 or not

and whether you have enough points for whatever you want from shop

[spark patio]

i currently have 135 now, and i also want to get the copy

then i should be patient and farm until the end?

[wind hazel]

do some maths, calculate what you can get from daily missions+SP+whatever from remaining days, add your current currency, minus out the daily 404 voucher missions, blablabla

then farm the minimum

[spark patio]

when will the event end? 2/10?

[wind hazel]

ye

[spark patio]

Asama worth using in W11-12 right?

[gleaming bloom]

What's this for. Free ship?

[stark quiver]

yes

[hoary relic]

not free at all

[remote token]

Kinda. You do missions to unlock the ships, then you need to enhance them with blueprints, which you can get mainly from events and research. They are kinda ass without max dev level though

[ebon verge]

really high dps against all armor types, and with decent survivability too

[remote token]

Speaking of Unzen, should she use oxy torp?

[pale vault]

Can someone make me 4 fleets for opsi?

I’ve looked at the tier list/guide but I missed 2 years of this game so I’m missing a lot of ships

[turbid marsh]

oh no lion sama XD

[stark quiver]

zwei, vanguard, new jeresy
agir, helena, plymouth

hakuhou, shinano, implacable
anchorage,kazagumo, sirius

independence, aquila, perseus
heinrich,shima, yuudachi

musashi, ulrich, essex retro
and some 3 ships
4th fleet is just crossfleet

[knotty dome]

does anybody else get random connection lost stuff while on emulator? it happened on ldplayer and now mumu but when i play other online games i don't get any random packet loss/disconnections

[pale vault]

heinrich over drake?

[stark quiver]

drake works too

yea drake instead of heinrich
i wasnt sure abt her ehp at first

[pale vault]

what does ehp mean?

[stark quiver]

effective hit points
it means hp after factoring buffs, skills, eva rate and whatnot

[pale vault]

gotcha

and nj over musashi?

[sinful socket]

musashi over nj no?

[pale vault]

i also dont rly have that good of gear

this will be my first time like fully doing opsi

[stark quiver]

yes because that cv fleet cant fight light armor enemies bc gear diff
and musashi currently doesnt have any good HE guns that are IJN

[pale vault]

can i dm you for gearing?

[stark quiver]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19P3KPrgOrzCySoUrjDZgsfqJsCpJCyb9XmmSKozVzbw/edit?usp=sharing
this is an opsi guide

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide
and this is a gearing guide

if you need other help gearing for specifics, then you can ask here, since a lot of ppl can elp

[red hawk]

Do I just wait till I can grind out the EU points, or do I start another ship in PR1

I'm still having to coin Roon, Sanrui, and now FDG

[stark quiver]

you can do any ship and complete the CDC
but dont put mats into them to unlock

[red hawk]

Oh so just like start one I can grind the xp part of and then swap off it when I get what I need? Do you happen to know if any other ships besides Sanrui use EU combat XP?

[stark quiver]

frontline?

[red hawk]

Either, just anything I can use for mixing getting fleet tech and combat xp

[stark quiver]

well just any EU frontline/backline if you have mains
like seattle

[red hawk]

No I'm asking what PR ships I could build that do EU combat XP so I can dual purpose XP and fleet tech

Like how saint Louis does van

Or if she's the only one in PR1 with eagle union

[undone plover]

After researching the prio ships
Getting 1 PR from 1-3 is good for protocre conversion

[remote token]

I'm pretty sure she's the only one there

[red hawk]

Ok that was my only real question

I know I can use the PR coin ships for cores

[remote token]

Back then there were barely any French ships so they needed to give alternative to players

[red hawk]

Yeah that's what people were saying since everyone uses all the free ships

Portland Helena and laffey you can have immediately

[remote token]

It's not that they were hard to get, they were impossible to get if you missed their events

[red hawk]

Yeah like they just didn't have enough of the faction I get you

[vapid valve]

Ok so quick question once I finish the supply station do I get to chose what awards I get or everything is thrown at me once i hit collect all

[digital pivot]

Just a quick theoretical question, but where would I-404 go in place within the submarine fleet? I've thought about oathing her once she gets to 100 Affinity and I kinda only use oathed ships in 99% of my gameplay

My submarine fleet is Leonardo da Vinci, Homura and U-47 to give an idea, all oathed, all 125 and 200 Affinity if that helps

Oh and also is it better for I-404 to use bidders or the German sub torps?

[limber oriole]

From what I've been told, I-404 is outright the best damage dealer and free cross fleet. So she should basically replace which ever sub is doing the least damage or utility I guess.

I think oxy is typically more important for subs anyway(?) so idk, replace her with who ever has weakers stats and oxy.

Im not exactly that knowledge, but this is what I've done for myself based on what others have told me (in regards to 404 being the best sub)

[limber oriole]

I'm actually wondering the same thing

[rain vine]

https://youtu.be/1MhvKc4iZsU?feature=shared

[limber oriole]

I read a graph on the wiki that said she has a low reload requirement for even the UR torps but i have no clue what that means

[digital pivot]

Alrighty, I think I have a general idea now for both things, thankies

[novel solstice]

Subs get a certain amount of time before they surface and leave.
So there's a tradeoff for whether you want the higher damage but slower torps, versus the lower damage but faster ones. There's a certain amount of reload (from the sub but also from cats and tech) where you'll get the same number of shots off for either one, so you prefer the higher damage one, and there's a different amount of reload where you will get off one more shot with the faster one so you'll do more damage with that.

So "she has a low reload requirement for this torp" is saying that her reload & oxygen is high enough that she doesn't need much extra from cats and tech for that torp to be superior.

[red hawk]

Monarch wouldn't be a terrible gap filler for combat data collection till I can get some eagle union tech right? I can throw unicorn and a couple others in my backline and grind it out fairly easy

[limber oriole]

Alright, thank you. That was very helpful

[vast ore]

Who is worth investing in next

[limber oriole]

Bro sent his whole dock 💀

[rain vine]

open a thread if youre going to post your dock and state what content youre trying to get through