gameplay-help

[stark quiver]

Also gph, how long would it take me to get to commander level 200

[wind hazel]

too long

[viscid swift]

considering no one known is currently at commander level 200

[stark quiver]

And with enough money, can I get it in a little under 3 years

[wind hazel]

no

[glossy granite]

Wait how do you have 6th anniversary role, sorry for stalking

[viscid swift]

the highest known was 196 last I checked

[wind hazel]

im special, yostar granted me because i was a good boy, the goodest role model citizen kind

[stark quiver]

There was a 6th anni server event

[glossy granite]

Oh

I thought you could add yourself

[stark quiver]

Who’s the closest, rn is it the famine guy at 17something

[hallow mountain]

what's the best plane for 404?

[wind hazel]

bearcat

[viscid swift]

^

[stark quiver]

In en?

[hallow mountain]

why not Seiran?

[viscid swift]

no idea in EN

[wind hazel]

because bearcat has better damage

[hallow mountain]

do subs count as vanguard in combat data collection

[rain vine]

no

[hallow mountain]

ok

[supple wraith]

what do the yellow chests mean when in OpSi Map, I know they're hidden zones but what do those have?

[rain vine]

more materials, also increased chances at akashi

[fleet berry]

For the mini-game mission, you need to do both missions before it unlocks the next set of missions. The first one is usually 'collect the minigame rewards three times' while the second one is usually clear 10-fight with S-rank or something like that.

[light trail]

zuihou worth using? when would u use her over unicorn, or what use cases does she have?

[stark quiver]

low base frontline

[viscid swift]

she's an alternative to Aquila mainly

[clear harbor]

This stuff?

[stark quiver]

\

[clear harbor]

I feel like an idiot. What does it mean to pick up rewards?

[stark quiver]

[fleet berry]

Just... go to the minigame and press 'collect'?

[stark quiver]

spam the pick up button until it claimes 3 times in the minigame

[clear harbor]

Okay. Weird. I did that the first few days.

[stark quiver]

its daily

[clear harbor]

Ohhhh. Thank you.

[fleet berry]

Also all the missions have been unlocked, you should be able to finish everything in half an hour or something like that.

[leaden garden]

is there a schedule or expecting date of when is the next UR rerun? I've missed quite alot of UR cause I quit for a year

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships?rarity=6&sortType=date

+2 years

[hallow mountain]

Is Dunkerque Meta any good?

I like her and I wanna at least use her for a little bit

[soft raft]

complete dogshit

[hallow mountain]

goddamn

[soft raft]

all elite METAs are garbage outside of their value as fleet tech fodder (if they have one that's good)

[craggy lance]

Incidentally, did they ever fix that bug where Bataan’s skill doesn’t trigger on HVAR Hellcats?

[gilded cargo]

is houhaku good? i only have amagi build

[stark quiver]

yes
but depends on the rest of your dock for prio

[gilded cargo]

idk im just using nakhimov bismarkzwei and unicorn :/

[analog phoenix]

Current meta BB team ?

[tranquil vine]

is there a way to grind exp without worrying about morale
(that isnt just not caring)
(for the pr ship missions)

[viscid swift]

opsi c1

[tranquil vine]

opsi counts for those missions?

[wind hazel]

if they give exp, yes

and c1 loop give exp

[gilded cargo]

lion?

what are c1

[soft raft]

iirc Lion/Alsace/BisZwei or Soyuz

[soft raft]

Corrosion level 1 zones in Operation Siren

[gilded cargo]

i see

i cant get past the hard mode in the middle region :<

[wispy cosmos]

notabug

[tranquil vine]

i went from 77 to 78% from an entire danger 4 zone

[stark quiver]

wut

[soft raft]

how tf did you get that much XP from a C4 zone

unless that 77% was at like the very tippy edge of being 78%

[tranquil vine]

...so im guessing i get basically 0 exp from opsi

and i should just wait for the morale to recover

[viscid swift]

I mean lars did the entirety of the Mecklenburg grind in c1 pretty much

[stark quiver]

average c1 farmer
i gave up on that

[viscid swift]

Just set it to auto repeat on C1, stopping every time you encounter a merchant

[tranquil vine]

i think im still in chapter 1

also i dont have good healer options for japan so danger level 5+ will slowly chip away at my vanguard

the one healer i have at lv>100 is zuihou

[viscid swift]

you can heal in port if need be freely

[tranquil vine]

(for japan, i mean. i have theseus, honoka, and unicorn otherwise)

[stark quiver]

honoka isnt IJN

[tranquil vine]

i dont think the auto would do it tho

[viscid swift]

no

[tranquil vine]

thats why i didnt include her with zuihou

[viscid swift]

or you just take the hit to XP and use Unicorn

something is better than nothing after all

[tranquil vine]

my hope is something where i can just turn it on and go to sleep

[viscid swift]

that would be rather wishful thinking

[tranquil vine]

like i said, the hope

[viscid swift]

not like the XP grind is that long anyway

[tranquil vine]

3mil exp is always annoying to grind imo

[viscid swift]

you can easily get it done in under a week

without doing anything special

[tranquil vine]

and when this ones done im gonna immediately start a second also annoying exp grind

[stark quiver]

does special include running 3 backline
it took me a good minute with just seyd

[tranquil vine]

ive been trying to pick between donskoi and leeuw as my first pr8 ship

[viscid swift]

it doesn't matter

you probably don't have BPs for either of them

just do whatever is most convenient

[tranquil vine]

uhh neither

but i dont like any of the other pr8 ships

[viscid swift]

Like this was achieved grinding at a regular pace

[tranquil vine]

leeuw is german/italian/dutch, yea?

iirc tulipa is dutch

[whole crypt]

are those just old screenshots

[tranquil vine]

behold: the ships i have for farming leeuw exp

[whole crypt]

just use anything that's not capped

[tranquil vine]

why specifically not capped

also im sitting on mountains of bulins i can uncap anyone i need to

[whole crypt]

that's LB, not cap

use something that's not capped for XP, for clarity's sake

[viscid swift]

I.e. anything not at level 120

[stark quiver]

zsu57 spotted
hmm why it haz radar

[tranquil vine]

OH, SOMETHING NOT AT 125?

[viscid swift]

Preferably stuff that'll be useful or gives good tech

[whole crypt]

you won't level most ships to 125

[tranquil vine]

thankfully for both donskoi and leeuw all my options arent fully capped lol

[tranquil vine]

m246. american aa

[whole crypt]

ships don't confer any additional bonuses tech wise after 120, you reserve 125 for ships you'll actually bring to top end content for level advantage

[light trail]

just to be clear, it doesnt matter for the xp grind progress whether or not the ships are at max level (120), you shuold just not use xp capped ships for the sake of not wasting resources. makes no sense to grind a ton of xp on ships that dont need it anymore when you have plenty that can use it

[whole crypt]

largely because game won't give you enough arrays to cog+ everything

[tranquil vine]

idk if theres any good ijn healers

[viscid swift]

Zuiho

[whole crypt]

Zuihou is decent, Ryuuhou and Shouhou behind

[hoary relic]

[viscid swift]

And you don't need a healer for W12

[tranquil vine]

ok

...i have a dumb idea to make this go a bit faster.

[old umbra]

Who need healer if you can one shot enemies 💀

[hoary relic]

not for w14 and w15

[stark quiver]

we arent talking abt high level campaign tho
its just w12 farming

[whole crypt]

I don't need healers for pr grind because lv120 ships don't die

[tranquil vine]

HOUSHOU INCREASE MY EXP GAIN

[stark quiver]

but tbf i dont think i needed a healer for my 14-1 tech farm lol

[hoary relic]

lv104+ can already go for w12 easily

with safe lv threat

[stark quiver]

thats good idea
houshou also has good 120 tech bonus

[whole crypt]

don't ask it's a 👴 thing

[hoary relic]

no langley?

[stark quiver]

theyre farming ijn tech bruh

[tranquil vine]

not japanese. im farming for daisen

[hoary relic]

oh lol

[tranquil vine]

thats also why im not using unicorn

[viscid swift]

You also don't need a maxed vanguard

[stark quiver]

that chesh skin makes me think of hardbola

[hoary relic]

how can blud ignore mamagi CV, at least grind her lv lol

🥀

[whole crypt]

I insist that as long as you take less than a month to finish the grind you're ahead of the release schedule

[tranquil vine]

two reasons

1. i havent really played much over the past... year or two?
2. carriers always for some reason feel like they underperform

[stark quiver]

its the gear youre giving them mostly

[viscid swift]

Might wanna try actually equipping them well

[tranquil vine]

like, a carrier will launch an airstrike and do almost no damage, then a random bb i have will attack and instantly wipe the node

[hoary relic]

BB just came back to meta after lion was added, before that CVs were still better and mostly your gears affect the performance

[viscid swift]

And/or using cross fleets in the boss fleet

[hoary relic]

[tranquil vine]

i guess techbox planes are probably not the best options then

[whole crypt]

sounds like a wrong planes problem yeh

[hoary relic]

sounds like u used wrong planes

[whole crypt]

they are

[tranquil vine]

ok i just realized what im comparing them to

[hoary relic]

[whole crypt]

there are viable planes from boxes you're just picking the wrong ones

[tranquil vine]

...my lv125 oathed nj with georgiagun, rainbow fire control, and an ap shell

that just deletes half the hp of any enemy i point her at

[stark quiver]

[hoary relic]

bro ur NJ is using gay gears

[stark quiver]

what?

[hoary relic]

no wonder why she clears those mob fast

kinda sad when your hunny is overshadowed by other juicy BBs

[grizzled creek]

D3 is best farm stage on event right?

[tranquil vine]

why is my york2 running a +0 purple tenzan kai

[hoary relic]

yep

[grizzled creek]

ok cool thank yah

[stark quiver]

its best for normal players
if you want to minmax oil:point ratio and have a lot of time, then a 4 oil fleet on b3 will be better

[grizzled creek]

i see ok, i def gotta do normal player way

[tranquil vine]

what fighter/db/tb should i be using as a baseline

[grizzled creek]

btw is there a updated list for shop prios

[hoary relic]

for what purpose?

mobbing or bossing and for what type of armour??

[fleet berry]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#main-fleet-weapons-cv-airplanes

[whole crypt]

B3 is doable with 3 oil if decent gear and xf

[stark quiver]

i am a normal person with lvl 70 fleets

[hoary relic]

me, waiting for AD1 and hvar hellcat to be added to gear lab

i guess bf109g would be my alternative choice for now

[grizzled creek]

idk what to do with a lot of this

[hoary relic]

[grizzled creek]

?

[hoary relic]

what?

[grizzled creek]

oh i thought it was a response to me lol

[hoary relic]

im just staring

[fleet berry]

You can follow Sam's guide in the datamine. I'll not try too hard to get I-404 2nd copy if you can't farm that much. Wait purchasing Asama 1st copy until the last day (just allocate some points) in case you get her randomly from drop.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRq-YMWVQz6BIwZZNdvu21eDe27ivlHgRmroe8Toga7VazYQZ62z4YHlOteoWNkaRnS60QGiOH75uAf/pubhtml#gid=736892561

[hoary relic]

i got 4 asama from sortie

[tranquil vine]

is it possible to get more than one hvar hellcat

whoops didnt mean to have a reply on sorry

[ocean scroll]

hi have, these URs not at LB

who to prioritize

[fleet berry]

No way for now.

[tranquil vine]

darn

[hoary relic]

can we see your whole dock?

[grizzled creek]

thx, i was looking mostly for the monthly shops if yk where those r as well

[fleet berry]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/#monthly

[hoary relic]

we need the pic of ur whole dock to help u decide who should be prioritized

[thorn tartan]

What is a submarine carrier?

carries subs?

[hoary relic]

submarine that can launch planes

[tranquil vine]

ok um quick question how do i show my entire dock when its over 350 ships

[thorn tartan]

what does the new plane in the event do? is it good

[fleet berry]

Suchi also has a more in-depth priority list for protocore spending.
#gameplay-help message

[whole crypt]

take 15 screen shots and start a thread, you can filter out rare/common shitters

[tranquil vine]

ok

[supple wraith]

random question, is that world of warships on the corner?

[thorn tartan]

if an aircraft carrier carries aircraft, shouldn't a submarine carrier carry subs?

[hoary relic]

that would be called a sub tender

not sub carrier

[whole crypt]

ryuusei with more damage so yes good

[thorn tartan]

is it now the best converg?

[whole crypt]

depends™

[hoary relic]

for dmg:yes

[tranquil vine]

war thunder

[hoary relic]

for timing: no

[thorn tartan]

i don't see war thunder in a corner? where is it?

[whole crypt]

more like for timing depends™

[tranquil vine]

ur uncap priority stuff

[whole crypt]

it's just a screenshot further up in the chat not relevant

[supple wraith]

oh icic

[ocean scroll]

all URs

[whole crypt]

can you afford more bulins

[hoary relic]

mhm i guess u can go for traf for a EVA debuffer for bossing fleet

idk can she replace Z52 at all

[whole crypt]

I would say trafalgar too but that's one more bulin than he has now, so if he can't afford one more the answer is LB nothing

[grizzled creek]

how many of those gold BB shells do i get before buying lesser prio items in monthly shop, the shop guide has no number

[whole crypt]

3 white should be good

[sharp socket]

3 white shell and at most 3 black shell

[ocean scroll]

gotcha, ill wait til i get 3 to lb traf

[robust onyx]

1 at most but white and black higher priority

[sharp socket]

though youll probably not use 3 black shells

[grizzled creek]

thx yall

[whole crypt]

black shell doesn't have higher priority than white, you also don't really need 3 like white

[robust onyx]

He asked for gold shells

[grizzled creek]

the sr ones in monthly core shop

[whole crypt]

they all gold rarity unless you mean crayon

[opaque galleon]

Those are clearly yellow

[opaque galleon]

He means the British HE shell

[robust onyx]

I guess I took that to mean the British shell

[fleet berry]

For yellow shell, you shouldn't buy it at all, really. Practically, it's only useful for BM.

[grizzled creek]

Nah is the shop guide ones

[hoary relic]

that british shell is niche, only worthy to +13 if u have lion

[whole crypt]

he just said the sr shells, they're all sr

[grizzled creek]

Type 1 AP shell n Super Heavy

[robust onyx]

3 white, and 2/3 black

[sharp socket]

yellow shell is still shit last i checked

[grizzled creek]

thx

[stark quiver]

its not shit

[opaque galleon]

It is niche

[sharp socket]

is it no longer 0.0000024% better than white shell

[whole crypt]

it's potentially better than white on HMS BBs in limited cases

the only real merit is being usable on BMs but it's also not real because you don't use BMs

[hoary relic]

i use t-pose radar instead of black shell

[whole crypt]

hpfcrs take a while

you may still want to use shell in limited cases where you don't want hpfcr timing

[safe nexus]

how rare is saratoga in 4-1?

1/6??\

[whole crypt]

I'm inclined to say not very rare but we don't know drop rate and RNG will RNG

[hoary relic]

dont waste oil getting sara in 4-1

[safe nexus]

im building sara tho

[whole crypt]

it's not a bad farm if you're level-locked

if you're level-locked

[hoary relic]

u can wait till reset for weekly missions for bulins to retro/mlb her

[safe nexus]

ah ok

[hoary relic]

and as i said, no need to waste oil at 4-1 unless u r level-locked

[whole crypt]

if you need dupes then yes just use bulins

[deft kettle]

boys, do i lb shinano to 5 stars or save up for mlb on hakohou

[hoary relic]

use on hakuhou

[deft kettle]

okie

[whole crypt]

don't. partial. LB.

[hoary relic]

shinano is in perm pool, u can get her dupes from that

[stark quiver]

who are your other UR options

[deft kettle]

wait lemme take a sc

[safe nexus]

my mob fleet is nelson unicorn hakuhou and boss fleet is saratoga pennsy albion, do i need to change saratoga and hakuhou with each other?

[whole crypt]

if they're in their completed state then yes that's a good swap

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[hoary relic]

unless u r doing w13 and higher, u dont need to care about the 2nd fleet

[safe nexus]

what about opsi?

[whole crypt]

also swap Nelson and Pennsylvania if you don't have better BBs

[whole crypt]

again assuming leveled and retrofitted

LB BisZwei use with Lion

[hoary relic]

i'd say u should mlb bis

[deft kettle]

aight

[whole crypt]

assuming OS boss comp

[hoary relic]

dont care so much abt 2nd fleet, just use 1 fleet until that fleet is 100% completely built, then u can start going for 2nd one

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[hoary relic]

raising 2 fleet at the same time wont be effective at all

unlike campaign u can heal your fleet during clearing the zone

[rapid summit]

Is hakuhou or shinano the better option?

[silent hearth]

Im a fairly new player, i have 1677 core data, should i spend it on a ship in the shop or save it?

[weary edge]

depends what u need but in general id proly say hakuhou

[weary edge]

if ur lacking good cvs then buy independence, otherwise buy like breguet for a good converging torpedo bomber or white or black shell for BB damage

[mint flint]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[rapid summit]

Alr ty

[silent hearth]

i have independence, shes on my list to get geared but i think im in need of another healer. ive been using mostly 1 fleet to clear, though i know im uspposed to have a mob fleet and a boss fleet but at this point my sub fleet is kinda meh

[weary edge]

retrofit unicorn is the best healer in the game

[mint flint]

You won't need 2 fleets until w9 minimum

[silent hearth]

i have retro uni, shes my second strongest ship atm

[weary edge]

i was able to clear w9 with just z23 and oumi on mob clearing

[silent hearth]

im chapter 11, i can probably clear it before the end of the night

[weary edge]

aquila is like the second best healer in the game

if u have aquila u should invest in her

[mint flint]

You don't need a second healer that early

[weary edge]

yeah she’s more for w14

[silent hearth]

what is W stand for?

[weary edge]

like, chapter

[mint flint]

World/chapter

[silent hearth]

ah ok

so i have max limit break on all of the banner characters, should i start pulling from the other banners? a few guides said i should only pull off limited banners

[mint flint]

If you aren't pulling an event banner

[weary edge]

never pull on permanent banners unless ur doing ur daily pull

[mint flint]

Only do 1 light per day, no more than that

[silent hearth]

so should i just keep pulling on the event then or just stop?

[weary edge]

stop

[silent hearth]

i have several hundred cubes still

[weary edge]

save them

[mint flint]

If you have the UR and all the ships you want, stop

[weary edge]

u already cleared event banner, just wait for the next ur banner

unzen rerunning in october

[silent hearth]

ah ok ty

should i max the HQ buildings first? i always seem to be running a oil/coin deficit

[weary edge]

if u have nothing else to spend ur gold on then yea

[silent hearth]

always have stuff to spend gold on >.< cant seem to get enough

[weary edge]

real

[silent hearth]

i want to start going through and max limit breaking some of the lower tier characters for tech points but my mains are so gold hungry

[weary edge]

when ur dev levelling ur pr ship try to spend 4k gold daily on it

[weary edge]

try not to waste ur bulins, use copies when u can

[silent hearth]

i got Izumo to start, im working on leveling her up and boosting her

[mint flint]

Just do 10 daily unless you're really lacking coins

[silent hearth]

the daily missions?

[weary edge]

i think he meant 10 upgrades daily

[mint flint]

10 coined bps

[silent hearth]

ah ok

[mint flint]

10-15 is standard for prs, 10 for drs

[weary edge]

bc the first few every day are discounted

[silent hearth]

speaking of PR ships im going to buy another one of the construction packs, it goes upto series 5, any suggestions?

[weary edge]

ay man im not that far into the game lol im still deving my roon

[robust onyx]

Yes, don't honestly

[silent hearth]

ive been going through tier lists trying to figure out which PR ship upto 5 is best but its hard unless i look at the character then wiki them

[mint flint]

Not really worth spending money on dev ships

[silent hearth]

not to brag but i dont mind spending $ on this game so buying a pack isnt a issue for me unless its just a REALLY bad deal

[onyx flame]

If you really want to get one then its prob pr4 anchorage

[weary edge]

i recommend getting a pr ship to dev lvl 30 then using the catch up on them so u can convert their bps into protocores

[robust onyx]

Anchorage is one of the best tanks in the game

[silent hearth]

awesome ok ty. i need to figure out how to build a mob fleet and a boss fleet, i have a decent spread of ships but my main fleet just seems to be best for both atm

[weary edge]

bro purposefully taking the joy out of the game 😭😭😭

[silent hearth]

i still have a hard time trying to figure out gear too. ive just been throwing gold gear on my strongest ships with no idea how they really affect anything

[weary edge]

if the stage has oil caps just use a full fleet

[robust onyx]

Not good honestly

[mint flint]

Gold doesnt mean good

[silent hearth]

yeah idk what the differences are

[weary edge]

ill let these guys handle it im going to bed gn

[mint flint]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[silent hearth]

ty for your help, mind if i add you on disc

[weary edge]

go ahead

[silent hearth]

added, ty again for your help tonight

[weary edge]

just know im an abrasive asshole that likes to piss people off for no reason 🙏🙏🤪🤪🤪🤪

jk kinda

[mint flint]

if you want a relatively indepth guide refer to sam's guide, otherwise you can look at this
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[robust onyx]

There should be newbie guide somewhere on here reading it should help

[wispy cosmos]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/fleetsandgear/goldgear

read this and the gearing is situational page (honestly the whole newbie tips guide is very useful if youre new)

[silent hearth]

yeah im going through and reading a few of the links RN, TY!

[rigid onyx]

whats the link to larscalc again

[robust onyx]

/calc

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Calculator for precise fleet reload times by mrlar

[robust onyx]

@rigid onyx 👆

[rigid onyx]

thanks

[civic agate]

Is there any chance of shinano bunny skin coming back to shop? I'm planning to save for her if so.

[analog phoenix]

Ty , What about vanguard on BB team ?

[robust onyx]

Not atm

[civic agate]

ah welp. I guess I'll continue praying. ty for answer

[robust onyx]

She was one of the banned skins

[heady igloo]

not sure if theyve seen the recent one they dropped😭😭

im still not sure how this game is 17+ on the app store

[robust onyx]

90% of them are 100% worse than it I know

[heady igloo]

a wins a win tho✅✅

[versed forum]

how many gold plates needed to +13 gold gear?

[wind hazel]

120

[noble pawn]

me waiting for Kearsarge skin

[onyx flame]

I might be high but i rmb during jp 8th anni strim it might be rerunning
#jp-8th-anniversary-livestream-discussion message

[civic agate]

omg is this real??? best news I've heard all days! thanks god and thank you for telling me this!

[deft kettle]

should i buy ryusei kai

[supple wraith]

once I get 12-4 to safe, can I use like level 70 ships?

[forest palm]

no

well it depends...

[supple wraith]

so I need to use books until what level?

ship in this case is Eldridge

[wind hazel]

90~100, depends on the ship

[forest palm]

you can book most ships to 70, toss them in the first floor of the dorm, then use when 90+ tbh

[wispy cosmos]

how good is ur gearing, r u using a healer to carry them

[supple wraith]

ye

I wanted to level her up + get EXP points for Anchorage dev so I only need exp for Vanguard

[thorn tartan]

is meta boss light armor?

[deft kettle]

are any of these metas good

[forest palm]

outside of 120 tech, none of those have any value

[brazen mauve]

Uh, dumb question: how to acess event SP?

[forest palm]

clear D3

[brazen mauve]

Ah, k

[robust onyx]

Only remotely usable Meta are all SR, none of the elites are usable

[tender lotus]

Soyuz UVH NJ
Among those three who should i replace for Unicorn in OS mob fleet?

[wind hazel]

soyuz because she's suited for your boss fleet why so many bb in your mob fleet...

[tender lotus]

That's last month's formation
Oh and i use Zwei Lion Alsace for bossing

[safe nexus]

i have received advice to not retire elite and above ships, nd i got like 7 shigure dupes what do i do with it, its eating ym space

[tender lotus]

Level 1 to 70 or 120 then retire it
If that ship gives bad tech stat just MLB then retire

[safe nexus]

im so broke on exp XD, and idk anything about the tech thing

[tender lotus]

Farming exp in campaign

Exp book for emergency

[safe nexus]

thinking about using all oil for D3 till i bought everything in store and unlock everything from the taekaze part

[tender lotus]

Just get enough so you could buy the ur ships and asama or just look at event shop guide

[safe nexus]

im new so i kinda need everything but thx i will try to manage it

[tender lotus]

Check the pinned message
It gives you the guide for current event shop priority

Now excuse me i have something to do

[safe nexus]

i forgot pin exist 😭 thx

[red sapphire]

Good morning. Newbie question about fighting Light and Medium armor with Musashi. Why is people using Twin 410mm (Type 3 Shell) Kai over SR Twin 410mm (Type 3 Shell)?

[whole crypt]

type3 shell is a beehive shell that practically does almost no shelling damage, especially on singular targets

[red sapphire]

Oh, I see. Thank you so much

[supple wraith]

can I get 3s on a stage without 100%?

[swift path]

for the final handbook reward, since i have MLB shinano, should i just retrieve jersey immediately?

[red sapphire]

Yup

[astral canyon]

Which should I prioritize in the Proto shop? (I have a copy of FDG gun and T234 for the month)

[violet grail]

Woohoo finally finished unicorn retrofit and hit commander level 65 unlocking chapter 9 today!
Bout to get my first ship to level 125 as well. It's all coming together.

[astral canyon]

Ty!

[gilded carbon]

This was the right gun for her, If i recall? Also, does she want that Armor-Aux? Instead of either the steering or the Toolbox?

[wind hazel]

double eva

[gilded carbon]

That is what i could use for double EVA

Im not sure where i read about the VH Armor Plating. Maybe the Community Tierlist.

[wind hazel]

you can ignore vh

better yet you can ignore azuma

[fleet berry]

I will be careful with JP announcement. Their Black Friday skins rerun is during their anniversary.

ie, what they get =/= what we get.

[gilded carbon]

I could. But If i will lvl her anyway because i dont have a Sakura-Tank, i may as well make the best of her. So, are the AUX i put there useable enough?

Given i have Ägir and Others, i didnt need her as a Tank ^^ but Tech

[hoary relic]

[wind hazel]

yes

[gilded carbon]

Thank you.

[tranquil crescent]

Does anyone know wtf is Maritime Attack?

[wind hazel]

it's the advance mission in daily raid

holy pogger mrbeast

<@&460646206851252224>

[violet grail]

Would LB2 Hakuhou still be weaker than MLB impero in my current fleet?
I just got 1 specialized bulin from handbook and another from a shop.

[wind hazel]

yes

[rocky lake]

Hi, out of Enterprise (Lvl 79) and Oumi (lvl 90) who should i get to 6 star first, Both are currently 5 star and im close to a 2nd SR bullin (within the next 24 hours)

[ivory pawn]

I’d lean towards Oumi just because her EXP is already capped.

[red sapphire]

Is this a good equipment setup? CL gun is Northern Parliament but I don't know if I should use Ocean Soul Camouflage for equipment restrictions and look for a better gun. What do you think? I don't have the event main guns

[rapid shard]

Other than Jintsu META are there any other notable ones worth grabbing next in the dossier fights?

[tropic tusk]

not really

[wind hazel]

this is good

[red sapphire]

Alright. I'm going for it, thanks

[leaden garden]

is this good?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Polikarpov_VIT-2_(Mode_Change_Prototype)

[wind hazel]

ye

[leaden garden]

aight thanks

[fleet berry]

A lot of them give good hull tech at Lv120. You can use Lars tracker and play around with the hull and/or techs.

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker?nation=97

I'll raise these tech:

BB: RLD > HIT > FP > others.

CV: RLD until 20 (prioritise +2) > HIT -> AVI > RLD (the rest) > the rest.

You can also do RLD (20) > HIT > AVI +2 > RLD (the rest) > AVI +1 as an alternative. I like having excess RLD for easier timing.

CA/CB/CL: EVA > FP > HIT = RLD = TRP > other.

There is an argument for CB and CA: EVA > FP -> HIT > RLD > TRP > others; CL: EVA = FP > TRP > HIT/RLD > others.

DD: FP > TRP > other.

[rain bobcat]

why is the game like extremely unresponsive sometimes

logging in would take 2 mins and sometimes stuff would take 5s to respond after the touch

just happens for no reason once in a while

[tropic tusk]

get a better probly probly slove that issue

as for the 2min after login thats mostly network delay , if ur not near the server it happens, normllay just want for ur background to talk then u can start clicking ( example when unicorn starts talking ) it means the game finish loading

[rain bobcat]

the game is also lagging by a ridiculous margin in game

[plain saffron]

after you get to home ui it actually still fetching data, the 2 min for login is not normal though

[rain bobcat]

tapping things would take like 10s to respond

[plain saffron]

i think that's a you problem now

[rain bobcat]

legit just happened this hour and ive been farming for the past 16hrs so it cant be my internet

[plain saffron]

or your isp, internet is weird

[tropic tusk]

2min for login is nomral , when i live near the server its instant after login after i went to asia it takes a while after login

[runic bluff]

is this peak??

[tropic tusk]

it was but i404 came out

[runic bluff]

so what should be with i404 existing?

why?

[rapid shard]

Appreciate the info. I was under the impression METAs did not count or add to tech bonuses.

[tropic tusk]

wait im stupid idk

[fleet berry]

There are two kind of tech bonuses.

• Fleet tech bonuses, used to unlock PR/DR ships.
• Hull tech bonuses, which add stats to certain hulls.
  We're talking about the 2nd one.

[wind hazel]

yes peak, perfect reroll target

[rapid shard]

I knew they didnt add Fleet tech but assumed they didnt add hull tech either. Glad to know they do cause I need ships to level while waiting for more bulins anyway

[cobalt gate]

tech stat priority? fp i think only gold ships left

[wind hazel]

cruiser eva, everything fp

[undone plover]

It is sadly a 9 pter unless I am mistaken
So 99% but not perfect cat
Ideal starts with 2 + 1 + 1 talent
But like it is great def level it and reroll to get trp and rld

[forest palm]

Cruiser EVA → FP → TRP → Hit → RLD → HP → ASW~DD EVA

[cobalt gate]

got it

also anyone got the pink ones?

[fleet berry]

#gameplay-help message

[cobalt gate]

hmm i'm suprised rld isn't as important

[forest palm]

I'd just stick to what I posted tbh

also Vanguard RLD Tech ultimately doesn't end up being that impactful

[fleet berry]

Vanguard guns tend to be faster than main ship guns, making the effect less noticeable.

[forest palm]

it's very fringe in terms of min/maxing you may get off some extra main gun salvos or torp salvos but overall it isn't doing you much

[cobalt gate]

ive not gotten a single pink tree out of the 3 am I just unlucky?

[forest palm]

it's RNG, so ya

[wind hazel]

how do you even get them

[cobalt gate]

I see. I wish we got more cog I feel like my total cog needs have no decrease with how many rainbow they release

I think I’ve been stuck at 300k forever

[forest palm]

just sounds like you don't tech grind enough

[cobalt gate]

Teach me please been doing h and 15-1

[forest palm]

[wind hazel]

you misread him, i think

[steel hedge]

how do i get more cubes man 😭

[forest palm]

I just walk up lol

anyway this is why I always argue that event EX should award 10x the current amount of chips

it'll comeback with her rerun, yes

er well outfits typically rerun with the event they're from

[muted wind]

yeah, the skin and soyuz probably won't rerun at the same time. when a UR goes into perma, all their skins do generally rerun, but that's a different topic

[forest palm]

you do have cases such as black friday where a good majority of outfits are rerun, however there is a cut off date for what outfits are available

[muted wind]

no, probably not

[wind hazel]

buy now, happy later.
skip now, regret later.

[forest palm]

most reasonable approach

[muted wind]

if you don't buy the skin now, you'll probably have to wait for its rerun after getting soyuz. not gonna claim either choice is better

[sharp socket]

havent done 15-4 in a bit, is this ok for boss mob boss

lethal 3* also

[viscid swift]

you need ASW

[muted wind]

*on the mob fleet
otherwise looks good to me

[sharp socket]

oh right

what about now

[viscid swift]

no, at best we have educated guesses

[muted wind]

educated guess, soyuz should be in ~6 months

[viscid swift]

ASW plane on Unicorn to be safe

[forest palm]

put a Fairey Genat on Uni

[muted wind]

put it on another ship, eldridge retro has a built-in hedgehog and equipping it overrides the built-in one iirc

[viscid swift]

no it doesn't

[sharp socket]

i thought she just gets 2 hedgehogs

[muted wind]

... oh, good to know

i might actually still pick a non-hedgehog asw instead because... uh... i remember geometric accuracy and targetting being a bit funky at times

[viscid swift]

huh

[sharp socket]

my hedgehog is +13 for some reason so im using it

[muted wind]

i just remember doing w14 and seeing the hedgehog fire at the furthest away submarine, then missing because it moved too far away, which wasn't a problem with depth charges

[forest palm]

a Fairey Gannet and Hedgehog should end up being enough

[muted wind]

yeah, 2 pieces of asw should be enough damage-wise. honestly wonder if eldridge with double hedgehog is good enough, may be.

[sharp socket]

have we gotten any new AA carries in the past about 6 months

[forest palm]

Gouden, or that other elvish check

[viscid swift]

Gouden Leeuw

[sharp socket]

sadge not dev30 ill keep shimanto then

also btw is 0lb i404 usable or just keep wolfpack

[muted wind]

usable for the ACC buff

[sharp socket]

for crossfleet

[viscid swift]

Just wolf pack at that point

[muted wind]

if you don't plan to send them into combat, may as well keep i404 for the ACC... but you probably do so

[sharp socket]

i cleared it before without calling subs

just hunting mode

also essex retro is fine in boss right or is some other cv preferred

should i use tenrais or just TB whenever i can

[muted wind]

probably fine to keep that loadout, seems good on AA and damage should be enough. not like the w15 bosses are particularly tanky

[sharp socket]

this one is doing boss 1 and 3

[vale flicker]

is it possible to set some secretaries fixed, and others random?

[spark patio]

is MLB Asama good to replace anyone in those?

[wind hazel]

your laffey, already capped, no point keeping her. also bring 1 bb over to your mob fleet

and maybe might as well make 4 EU for essex lul

essex saratoga portland helena

[spark patio]

im lving them, so i need to use them in my mob

btw, i forgot all the priotize things from the event shop

[manic sable]

How does one unlock SP and EX mode? i cleared part 1 and 2

[split gazelle]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[manic sable]

i have to clear them in hard mode too?

[split gazelle]

I think D3 specifically

[manic sable]

ohhh i see now so it switches when u click on hard mode, ty

[gritty spear]

Can someone explain to me exactly how this system works? Because, to put it simply, I would like to get that Helena META. I already have Dunkerque from the pass, and everything was easy there. Here, however, it's a bit confusing. From what I understand, the coordinates from the bosses are accumulating as they should, but they won't be visible here until the opportunity to fight that "fox" (Yuudachi) is over? I'm asking because I get something for the bosses, but only the blue ones, and I'm not sure if the game actually counts it, because I can't see it anywhere later. I thought something was broken, because no matter how much I fought, it still showed me 0/200 (1400) at the top.

But how does it work? Once Yuudachi is gone, will I be able to get Helena fairly easily? Do I need to fight or click something else? Because from what I understand, I'll get her when I collect those 1400 Dossier Coordinate Loggers.

PS: I am attaching a preview photo of the map from Operation Siren, although something a bit strange is happening here too, because I completed the stage with the story, but as you can see, nothing happened after I entered. No notes or character dialogues appeared. So it's a bit strange, but I'll try to enter there again and see if anything changes. Maybe it's a bug? Without it, the game won't let me move on, although it's probably the fault of all those remaining zones with corrosion levels of 4-6 points. I'm too weak to get through them.

[vague oracle]

Done developing anchorage left fs to go. I can swap her into the fleet while developing her fs yeah?

[inland shoal]

Yeah you gotta finish the story

[vague oracle]

From the looks of it you have yet to complete the story of op siren. You can proceed completing the story there to unlock more feature

[inland shoal]

In a map, check your "Information" tab and see what it tells you to do

[spark patio]

which should ibuy? i forgot lol

[gilded carbon]

Check the pins

[vague oracle]

Any Anchorage gear setup I can use for reference.

[narrow kiln]

What is the effective way to obtain SR Ordnance Testing Report?

[gritty spear]

@inland shoal Well, the mission was to enter that zone. It's just strange that when I was there for the first time, the story didn't appear. Shouldn't it have been right away? Oh well, never mind. Now it works.

What about Helena META?

[inland shoal]

You will see when you get there, right now you can't accumulate the necessary coords yet

And yeah it should have, but maybe you entered the wrong version of the map or sth by accident

(There's multiple versions of each zone, such as explorable and secured)

Though idk why that should be possible at that stage but eh

[white musk]

I remember somebody telling me, but I forgot the answer lol

Does high efficiency logistics plan double the rewards of a 3x daily event stage, or no?

[whole crypt]

you don't have to finish the OS story to access showdowns including dossier, you just need to clear enough of ch1 up to the point where you meet Hiryuu @gritty spear

it should grant you dossier coordinates whenever you earn current META coordinates

@gritty spear have you actually picked up any coordinates for Yuudachi META at any point besides the 100 it gave you for accessing the first showdown

[inland shoal]

Yeah but the coord collection thingy needs to appear on screen first no?

[whole crypt]

it does, looking at it there's a fair chance he hasn't gotten to that point, but somehow got access to META lab menu

[red hawk]

you do your first tutorial on meta fairly early in story opsi

just grinding through the story on my alt myself

[whole crypt]

you do but it should also be the "end" of ch1, at a glance that doesn't look like ch1 is done

[inland shoal]

Yeah, he's still really early in the story

[red hawk]

I just know that you do get it fairly early but I wasn't sure how far they actually got

[whole crypt]

memory's a bit fuzzy but there shouldn't be any mission markers in SW quarter of the map if he's done the story up to the point of unlocking showdowns

the next task should just be securing 8 zones or otherwise progressing to ch2

and the marker will be on Liverpool

game could also be just bugging out, a relog/restart might fix it, otherwise try to progress story, and if it doesn't work contact CS

[past beacon]

I need help with Nakhimov gear

[whole crypt]

what sort of help

[sweet delta]

1. For campaign mob/boss, or single target boss
2. With Soyuz or no

[past beacon]

I’m planning to pair up with Chkalov to fight campain and siren boss.

i don't have Soyuz

[whole crypt]

campaign bosses setups are entirely different from OS boss ones
the former just use a normal fighter/DB/TB loadout if you're not sure
the latter is there any chance you can just make a better boss fleet without Nakhimov

[past beacon]

thank you I'll give it a try

[sweet delta]

*Without chkalov at least, and possibly without nakhimov

[whole crypt]

given the lack of Soyuz I have slight doubts on the state of completion of Nakhimov as well which may make her worse than Chkalov

[gritty spear]

Well, I'll see what happens next on the map. For now, I've been trying to collect the stars from each stage.

On a different note, I'm guessing it takes ages to get the materials for those rainbow and gold weapons from the laboratory? There's quite a lot of it, which is interesting, but from what I can see, these materials are generally obtained slowly and in small amounts. I have a few ships where I would like to see weapons from research and the laboratory, but obtaining these concept sketches in this game is a real time-consuming horror.

I'm just finishing upgrading Roon to level 30, so at least I'll be able to research them (blueprints), for example, the Hindenburg's gun (rainbow 203mm - I'm not planning on getting the Hindenburg itself, but it will be an interesting development... of the golden 203mm. The original one from Roon). I would also like to have those rainbow German torpedoes, but I've already seen that you need a HUGE amount of resources for the Operation Siren laboratory.

[rain vine]

the rainbow torps arent really worth it
just stick with gold quad magnetics

[whole crypt]

don't seriously bother too much with the stars in OS, they'll take months if not years to fill in even if you were actually trying

collecting materials needs to be done over time, but you really need to clear up story to be able to consistently get them in meaningful amounts each month

you shouldn't be focusing on PR1 to get Roon prints if that's what you're doing now, and if you're spending your PR1 catchup on Roon that's also kind of a waste

also research isn't exactly relevant to the topic of gear lab

a lot of the game is time-consuming grinds over time, but take it one piece at a time and clear it up and the amount of outstanding grind should clear itself out through consistent play

[narrow kiln]

By the way, did I understand correctly that the main thing that makes rainbow torpedoes ineffective is their spread?

[whole crypt]

and reload speed

also there are cases where the quints will fare better but the cost may not be justified by the improvement

[gritty spear]

I meant the Research Academy (but i'm idiot and can't write in english properly). That's where all the projects are commissioned, and after a while it give you some blueprints. I don't really like this sketch system, because even the simplest things take ages here. Since the beginning of the game, and I'm already at level 72, I haven't been able for example to create a stupid purple boiler. Either I don't have the sketches for it, because they're not available at all levels, or I can't get it out of any box. And then there's the number of blueprints. Ten for purple equipment? That's still manageable. But twenty-five for gold and F I F T Y for rainbow really takes a lot of time.

[whole crypt]

you would be surrpised to find out if played properly a piece of rainbow gear from research takes about 2-3 months

[gritty spear]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Quintuple_Torpedo_Mount#tabber-Type_3
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Quintuple_Homing_Torpedo_Mount#tabber-Type_3

Isn't it a mistake on the part of the developers that rainbow torpedoes are worse than golden ones? At least that's what these two tables suggest. Quite strange...

PS: I know that the German ones have homing capabilities, but they should still be better.

[whole crypt]

"normal" gold gear takes 15 but you don't really farm prints for gear
research gold gear 25 is kind of just a side gig to grinding for rainbow

[whole crypt]

it's not so much a mistake as much as just the consequence of gameplay realities that the devs probably don't really care about, we have plenty of gear that are worse than pieces from a lower priority

the best BB gun for at least 60% of the game is purple

[gritty spear]

I hope that this help somehow. If not, it will be TOUGH journey...

[viscid swift]

why are you looking for a boiler anyway

[narrow kiln]

Can you remind me how many gold DBs there are that are actually better than Helldiver (not counting Golddiver).
By the way, can you tell me about the Yamato gun?

[whole crypt]

how long have you been playing

[viscid swift]

it's pretty useless

[viscid swift]

none and it's got some niche uses when syncing your BBs to 3 strike CVs

[whole crypt]

0
triple 460 at least has a niche potentially

[viscid swift]

and no the Gold non magenetic quints are not better than the UR Quints

[gritty spear]

Yes, I know one legendary case...

I haven't seen it in action (except maybe in one film, but it was hard to see what it was doing), but it has become so infamous that it was impossible not to hear about it. The largest calibre confetti launcher in human history. Apparently, it has some use against aircraft or something, but it does absolutely nothing against ships.

Meanwhile, from what I heard, purple version of this gun is epic.

[whole crypt]

I'm not even referring to beehive
most gold guns you can easily access are worse than Mk6

[narrow kiln]

OH CONFETTI GUN

[whole crypt]

purple version of type 3 doesn't exist, that twin 410 is practically a different gun

also purple twin 410 isn't epic, but it's one of the less bad guns, unless it's on Musashi then it's one of her better gun options due to her skill

just accept that gearing for the game is confusing until you get around the numbers

[gritty spear]

Maybe about three weeks? A little more? Either way, I'm one of those crazy players who can level up MANY times in a single day. So, with sheer determination, I can do in two or three days what would normally take weeks. I already have quite a few UR ships, for example.

[verbal plinth]

Really used older gun theres many options now

[viscid swift]

let me be real, those URs are useless for now

and as much as I admire the grind, AL is very much a long term game

[gritty spear]

Which ones? All of them? So what's good?

[viscid swift]

more than anything else it rewards consistent play

[whole crypt]

URs are all good but they won't be good in 3 weeks because limit breaking is a huge thing

[viscid swift]

they're useless because you won't be able to max limit break any of them and most of them you probbaly don't wanna use Bullins on anyway

[whole crypt]

AL progression takes consistency and time, extremely focused play in 3 weeks won't beat 3 months of sufficiently regular play because a lot of things will be timegated, including the oil you have to spend

[gritty spear]

Ah, you're talking about those rainbow bulins. I don't let them off the hook either. Although, in fact, once you have three UR units, the process has to slow down. Because every ship takes this bulin. And getting it is not a problem, but it's not THAT fast.

[viscid swift]

what

[narrow kiln]

How long have you been playing?
(Sees MLB Shinano)

[rocky lake]

Hi, just got roon, (dev lvl 25 from BPs i had saved up), anyone i should replace her with?

[hazy olive]

Is Erebus any good for a newbie

[whole crypt]

which part of "the game takes time" was not clear

[narrow kiln]

I don't think so.

[whole crypt]

there's basically nothing in AL that rewards you for rushing hard

it just wants you to login every day and play bit by bit consistently

[narrow kiln]

After looking at it, I didn't see a single reason why it would be better than Pennsylvania.

[gritty spear]

I have more of these. Regular and gold ones, all already upgraded. A very large supply of bullets. How long have I been playing? Wait, let me check.

[viscid swift]

no one until she's dev 30

[rocky lake]

and once she's dev30?

[viscid swift]

I dunno whether to be impressed or not that you decided to rush without using Unicorn at all

[split gazelle]

how much have you spent on the game?

[narrow kiln]

...
Excellent question.

[viscid swift]

London I suppose, you might wanna update your positioning

[rocky lake]

okay, and how so?

[whole crypt]

have you by any chance read this: https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[viscid swift]

Portland and Neptune main tanking, Seattle off tanking

[gritty spear]

@narrow kiln Well, a little longer than three weeks. Because I started on the evening of 20 August. At first, I didn't understand how to play at all and couldn't do anything. But I made up for my lack of knowledge as quickly as I could. Right from the start, I was building 10 ships a day (or even more), using the wishing well as much as possible, and I ALMOST got Le Hardi (seriously, the reason I didn't was... a missclick in the shop :_:) from an event I knew nothing about and initially played like an idiot.

[gritty spear]

Which Unicorn?

[gritty spear]

No.

[viscid swift]

there's only one in game

[narrow kiln]

royal CVL and best healer in the game.

[whole crypt]

unfortunately the best way would have been to get that knowledge than building blindly, but you're here now I'd recommend being a little more prudent with your resources

[gritty spear]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Unicorn
Ah, her? I'll buy her someday, she looks cool (I see this ship earlier, but didn't bother with it). But I didn't know she had such great abilities.

[wanton dawn]

is hakuhou better with shinano or amagi

[whole crypt]

yeh, please, read the newbie tips

[whole crypt]

if you don't need a stopper both
if you need a stopper I believe it'll be with Amagi

[whole crypt]

I highly recommend reading through it to see what other information you may be missing, also check equipment guide on the same site
we tend to say there's no "wrong" way to play the game and you can play the way you like but playing efficiently can help the experience in the long run

[wanton dawn]

icic ty

[hazy olive]

Alright just MLB’d Oumi with a medal bought Bullin

now uh what do I do with medals

[whole crypt]

buy SRs that are useful
buy more bulins
buy other useful consumables

[gritty spear]

I'm reading it now. Actually, I just drew the Shinano mentioned here from the wishing well (although it wasn't what I was looking for). Together with Helena, they took the initiative in battles for a very long time. By the way, as for my "speedrun", I managed to get to 9-4 in the campaign in a month. Yesterday, only the boss stopped me from getting another UR: New Jersey. Together with I-404, it will be the fourth UR I've gotten during a single event (this current) :P

[hazy olive]

Oh yeah should I go for I404

[split gazelle]

yes, try to get both copies if you can.

[crimson grove]

whats the secret to doing 1mil dmg in ninja scroll
not sure which investment gives the best value dmg vs koba

[rocky lake]

Is main tank just middle slot?

[gray sphinx]

You should always go for a UR ship. Especially a free one at that

[hazy olive]

man food stalls is so easy

but boy does it make me wanna die.

[crimson grove]

anything else

[viscid swift]

Left most

[whole crypt]

when you get there 1mil damage is nothing, and you'll just get all the other upgrades

[crimson grove]

okey

[rocky lake]

So what's middle and right referred to?

[stark quiver]

middle and off tank

[whole crypt]

tank/middle/off-tank

[narrow kiln]

Statistically, a ship in the middle is hit by fewer attacks.

[whole crypt]

serving myself a reminder I need to change my grind fleet

[stark quiver]

do you keep track of how many ships you have at 120

[whole crypt]

it's easier to keep track of how many I do not

[stark quiver]

which is

[whole crypt]

8

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

I'll be honest that's not speedrunning and moreso just normal progression if anything if you're decently active

[rocky lake]

Right I see

[rocky lake]

👍

[stark quiver]

i am rather far from max tech
and now i can grind 6 tech ships cuz no gems for ring

[hoary relic]

do we need to use HP aux for CB?

[stark quiver]

not rly

[forest palm]

it's the generic option, but no

[hoary relic]

🤔 eva aux for more eva?

[stark quiver]

rudder beaver

[hoary relic]

since CB has lots of hp but trash eva

[whole crypt]

double EVA tends to work for CBs

[stark quiver]

how many ships are there to 120
like 683?

[forest palm]

there about

[stark quiver]

check pinned messages

[viral solar]

whats the best team to beat ark royal meta?

[whole crypt]

As of Monday, 9/22/2025, there is a total of 644 regular ships, 103 of which can be retrofitted. There are 42 research ships, 77 collab. ships, and 51 META ships. Together, these make up a total of 814 obtainable ships in the game.
minus 2 for collab

well minus 6 more on EN

and however many you may have missed

[forest palm]

[hoary relic]

anyways to obtain taihou meta for now?

[gilded carbon]

no

you may have to wait a year or two for that

[analog phoenix]

Current meta vanguard on BB team ?

[hoary relic]

depend on what type of armour of the boss

[whole crypt]

Ark Royal META is fairly old by now a lot of modern teams should be able to beat her, might be easier for us to build you something based on what you have than us blindly recommending

[analog phoenix]

Using universal

[stark quiver]

soyuz, nakhimov, fritz rumey
with 4 la9s and rafaello gun
is a good comp
like z52, trafalgar, plymouth or something

[hoary relic]

mostly z52 ply and traf i guess

for like universal

[whole crypt]

I'd put Traf in the middle for that one

[analog phoenix]

Trafalgar ? Got 4 bulin shall i mlb her or hakuhou ?

[hoary relic]

traf if u r using BB comb

[stark quiver]

what other ships do you have max limit broken already?

[whole crypt]

if you're using a BB fleet with Lion I'd go Trafalgar

[viral solar]

i dont characters by name i need pictures with them in ur formation

[analog phoenix]

#gameplay-help message

[hoary relic]

traf then

[viral solar]

i need to use them?

[hoary relic]

u have lion alsace and bis2 already

[stark quiver]

not you

also to answer someones question earlier, i use this for kwkz meta, max bb rld and max cv rld tech

[hoary relic]

u dont use ply?

[whole crypt]

Chapayev with aug is fairly high up the list against light so not exactly an issue

[rain vine]

wouldnt this be for yuudachi meta?

[whole crypt]

personally I use Plymouth because I can't be othered to cog+ Chap

[stark quiver]

yea someone asked for poim fleet

[hoary relic]

why bowgun lol

[stark quiver]

because im not skill issued

[glass quest]

Should I use my T3 Ordnance Testing Reports to craft a Prototype Twin 457mm Mk or a Prototype Spearfish?

[analog phoenix]

How long would it take to max BB tech

Missing oil rn

[whole crypt]

do you have any more 457s now and where are you in the game, also do you have Tenrais

[stark quiver]

it took me around 2-3 months

[whole crypt]

post your own screenshots we'll circle pictures for you

unless you're saying you have those exact ships at the right levels

[viral solar]

i cant i dont play on pc

[glass quest]

oh I‘m lv135, just a waifu player with limited knowledge about efficiency. I have one 457 and one Tenrai

[whole crypt]

you can screenshot and paste them even on a phone

[whole crypt]

you don't really need a second 457 but a second Tenrai could be useful, Spearfish not worth the ordreps for you at this point

[stark quiver]

ark meta fleet
idk who to put for middle so u choose a random ship

[whole crypt]

if you're not sure just hold on to the reports

[glass quest]

I have 4 Wyverns ig I use them as substitutes?

[whole crypt]

Spearfish is only potentially marginally better than Wyverns in some cases and not worth bothering if you're not just a rich 👴

[glass quest]

alr a second Tenrai it will be, thanks

[stark quiver]

im capped on hit rate
thats why i have black shells and 134s

[whole crypt]

didn't bowgun have a penalty on light armor

[glass quest]

another question how do I use the AD-1 Skyraider? It essentially is just decoration rn

[stark quiver]

+9 bowgun doesnt

[whole crypt]

oh +9 gaming

[whole crypt]

it's kind of slow so gets left out every so often, but there are comps/timings that use it I guess

[stark quiver]

meta maxxing amirite
ive overcapped on fights for the past week

[whole crypt]

I have one but I stopped bothering with it

[thick parrot]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb

^ is this a good site to see how to gear my ships?

[stark quiver]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide
this is maybe better

[tranquil vine]

isnt there a torpedo bomber that inflicts slow just like uh ark
im trying to avoid having to put ark into a cv fleet

[remote token]

Fritz slows too, no?

[hoary relic]

u need slow or freeze?

[tranquil vine]

howmst do i get it

[remote token]

Gambling on her event

[hoary relic]

i dont get it, u need slow to activate buff or just more hit rate for TBs?

[stark quiver]

torpedo bombers dont have skills
ships have skills

[tranquil vine]

i wanna use amagi cv, york2, and shinano as my carriers

[stark quiver]

york2 is useless

[tranquil vine]

dont care, york2 my beloved

[hoary relic]

shinano implac and amagi cv

replace implac with hakuryuu if u dont have her

[narrow kiln]

this?

[hoary relic]

did u miss essex's retro item?

[stark quiver]

also that swordfish isnt worth the cost

[gray sphinx]

Wait you can cap on hit rate? I did not know this

[stark quiver]

august von parseval, implacable, peter strasser, nakhimov, fritz probs, ark royal

or you can use eldridge in frontline

[tranquil vine]

yes

[gray sphinx]

What’s the number for cap? I’m assuming you just tech farmed the crap out of hit?

[hoary relic]

welp then yk2 is useless for now uhh

[tranquil vine]

that

[stark quiver]

cap is 100%
you can achieve it with a combination of tech, oaths, gear, and ships

[hoary relic]

u have implac, why dont u use her for freeze?

[gray sphinx]

So each hit rate point in tech is 1%??

[stark quiver]

no

[gray sphinx]

So what’s the conversion? Cause I know they always say like +1 hit or something in tech

[tranquil vine]

i wanna use the ships i like

[stark quiver]

it just means a ship gets +1 hit point when leveled to 120
hit point is not hit rate

[whole crypt]

Swordfish 818 would like a word

[gray sphinx]

Huh then uhhh what’s the difference between hit point and hit rate?

[boreal wagon]

hit plays a role in calculating hit rate

[gray sphinx]

So hit points do correlate to more hit rate then??

[stark quiver]

yes

[boreal wagon]

yes but 1 hit is not 1%

[gray sphinx]

Then what’s the conversion for that? Like how much does one hit point affect your hit rate?

[whole crypt]

hit stat points or hit points

[boreal wagon]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Hit_Rate

[gray sphinx]

Like hit stat points you get from tech 120

[whole crypt]

because hit points are hit points and hit stat is hit stat

[gray sphinx]

There so much hit lmao

[whole crypt]

hit points is just your life bar

[boreal wagon]

we are talking about hit stat alpha just said point for some reason

[whole crypt]

we don't call hit stat hit points

[red hawk]

yeah I was gonna say, Hit Points is just health, that's not hit stat

that was confusing the shit out of me ngl

[whole crypt]

context doesn't save that confusion we simply don't call it that

[stark quiver]

ive alwyas called it hit point

[soft raft]

Hit points is also often what gets abbreviated into HP so lol

[boreal wagon]

anyway this how hit rate is calculated, there is no such thing as a direct conversion of hit into hit rate

[red hawk]

yeah I didnt think so, it'd be really weird calling the hit stat hit points considering the history of RPGs it's traditionally Hit Points = Health Points

im assuming there's diminishing returns the more hit you stack up?

[stark quiver]

i mean if you have high hit stat, then you can run alternative gear on your ships
like how i have 26 hit tech and that plays a role in me being able to run some FP gear on lion instead of hit gear

[gray sphinx]

Hmm

Okay I guess I’ll just never know if I capped unless I calculated it??

[whole crypt]

clearly the solution is just get FP tech as well then you can go back to using HIT gear

if you're not sure just go with HIT

[red hawk]

so not so much DR as caps where you can play with gear if you reach them

[gray sphinx]

Okay but what if you could do both

[stark quiver]

then you are dalao

[whole crypt]

your gear options are basically just whether to use bowgun or sword, and you're less likely to screw up with sword

[red hawk]

also looks like there's a couple other stats that lean into your hit, depending on the ship

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator
just input your exact setup, tech and whatnot, turn off assume 100% HR in settings, and select the enemy youre fighting

[gray sphinx]

Hmmm okay that might make things easier lol.

[red hawk]

tbh a lot of that min maxing is really only for players who are at a point where they can even start thinking about fleet tech stat options vs doing what's good for progression

[stark quiver]

i still do whats good for progression

well maybe aside from pvp shit and ex gaming

[remote token]

Not upgrading confetti gun to +13 is one of them

[gray sphinx]

I mean I’m starting to get to the point where I’m tech farming but there’s so many ships that I just go for whatever I wanna 120 next at random lmao

[stark quiver]

yes, i have more than 1 brain cell

[red hawk]

I guess I just meant, I'm not levelling a bunch of ships right now just to get the stats, I'm having to be very judicious about the factions and level of stuff I'm investing in due to lack of resources and need for later levels

[stark quiver]

istg lars

[undone plover]

Be sure to check the skills as well for the ships
Some need toggling in their own menu
The main (and probably only) reason u can hit 100% in this fight is because of trafalger + chapayev OR aurora adding a flat 20% hit rate
U probably need sth like +200 hit to reach that if it even is possible

[gray sphinx]

I 125’d most of the important ships atm tbh

[red hawk]

I know there's part of the later game that's prioritizing ships with specific stats for fleet tech

[whole crypt]

the easiest way is to just assume you need more hit than FP

[red hawk]

I didn't know how limited awakening mats were and I awakened like all my first fleet

[boreal wagon]

you forgot to mention that one can do none of that if they dont enable damage calcs first

[hazy olive]

Are any of the Mo ships worth it?

[gray sphinx]

Full of rando ships?

[red hawk]

125 penny sitting there just doing awakening comms

[whole crypt]

it's not worth the trouble thinking whether I can squeeze more FP out because I don't need the hit

[remote token]

Imagine if we could transfer cog chips into them

I have like 100k

[gray sphinx]

💀

[red hawk]

moreso like penny and portland, the other ones were atelier collab ships that I love anyway so w/e

[gray sphinx]

Yeaaaa I 120 random ships and save 125 for like UR ships mainly these days

[stark quiver]

i usually pick the tech point i want to get > and then the faction im trying to unlock PR ships for

[soft raft]

I'm assuming you meant Muse ships, in which case no not really

Alot of them are mid or middle of the road, and none of them provide tech points or fleet tech

[hazy olive]

The Core Monthly Shop

[stark quiver]

if it makes you feel better, i have an oathed ranger at 125

[red hawk]

I did basically my whole starting setup penny/port/helena/z23/uni/enty

plus Kala ideas/nina friede/yumia

[gray sphinx]

Yea that’s fair. I’m kind of just doing research for fun although I should be doing research for gear instead like the LA-9s

[soft raft]

Only Independence in terms of actual practical usage
Everyone else is tech/collection fodder

[gray sphinx]

I’m 7 away from my first LA-9 and I can’t get any more prints for the life of me 💀

[stark quiver]

la9s are good

[hazy olive]

Should I get weapons from there?

[red hawk]

as long as I don't waste anymore for 125 it's not a big deal, I just wish there was more in the early guides telling you not to go past 120

[whole crypt]

7 prints is like 2 weeks with the right researches

[soft raft]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[gray sphinx]

That’s my goal atm

[red hawk]

I'm just used to maximizing levels and stuff in gacha and until someone here said something I didn't know awakening to 125 was something I should save

because I don't recall seeing it in any guides

[stark quiver]

dont worry, its like a very small part of your game you spent on them

[red hawk]

I may have completely skipped over something though that could be on me

[undone plover]

Is it really not?
Another 5% dmg on your backliners probably can make a difference

[soft raft]

You don't need to 125 until W15

[gray sphinx]

What’s the right research? Maybe I focus a bit on those too but atm I’m at dev27 and 28 for both nahk and Napoli atm

[whole crypt]

a bowgun is less than 5%

[stark quiver]

wewll youre talking to a man who has 8 ships left to get to 120
im sure he doesnt need to min max

[whole crypt]

you're also slightly losing out on crits with lower hit

[red hawk]

the only ones I did on my 2nd acct were uni and Sandy

[gray sphinx]

My ass getting whopped in 14-4

[red hawk]

saving the rest for late game ships

[stark quiver]

its 5%

[stark quiver]

you can go past 100% HR?

[whole crypt]

go check the crit calc again

[undone plover]

No I mean going from full hit setup to full FP
White > blackshell

• the fp aa gun
  AND the augment

[stark quiver]

well i have 100% either way so

[boreal wagon]

100% hit rate doesnt mean 100% crit rate after all

[undone plover]

I see

[whole crypt]

white to black is an iffy assumption because you're also changing the crit parameters

[undone plover]

So on average your crit is worse with the fp setup?

[whole crypt]

essentially

[red hawk]

is there any way to get 100% crit rate? or skills that do it temporarily or anything

[undone plover]

[whole crypt]

and once you drop white shell you're basically definitely not hitting 100HR

[stark quiver]

idt so

[whole crypt]

only BisZwei and some odd examples have limited confirmed crits

[undone plover]

There is some guaranteed stuff like zwei first volley of each salvo

[gritty spear]

@broken verge If you wish, you may review this discussion until its conclusion. It is quite interesting.

[stark quiver]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19P3KPrgOrzCySoUrjDZgsfqJsCpJCyb9XmmSKozVzbw/edit?usp=sharing

[undone plover]

I am also the proud owner of a 125 penny
Dw too much about it
Being rare her array cost was very low
And now u know
But yeah I agree our guides def should have a
DO NOT DO THIS section

[whole crypt]

but yeh you're going down a lot of hit if you start dropping shell and AA gun too

[undone plover]

Well I would only consider doing it if I am overcapping hit rate

[red hawk]

any ships that prefer crit versus other stat builds? Is building towards specific stats on ships (i.e. using diff gear with diff stat weights) a thing

[whole crypt]

I mean if you were somehow overcapping hit rate and just missing 5% BB damage to kill something then sure give it a shot, but the game has enough fickle numbers I don't seriously see the point

[undone plover]

Almost never tbh
Even for zwei ppl run white shell from what I see since it is still good for her and u still prefer the hit stat in most comps

[whole crypt]

in most cases you also won't be overcapping hit

[soft raft]

Nope and nope

[whole crypt]

at least not significantly

[stark quiver]

crit rate is a mysterious thing
so everyone divert attention to other stats, CR is one of those "it happens naturally" things

[red hawk]

seems like the gearing is more about armor/timing situations than it is about stats

compared to other gachas where some of the gear you're kinda aiming for stats on

[soft raft]

You will barely ever notice crit nor will crit make enough of a difference in a ship's kit to justify using your precious two aux slots to build towards in a mildly miniscule amount

[whole crypt]

crit rate isn't mysterious you just have very little control over it and it's not particularly high
stat wise HIT is one of the few things that does anything to it

[stark quiver]

on the surface yes
you can also do stat minmaxxing when you havea. built account

[undone plover]

Afaik we dont have stat threshholds for ships like other gacha where u want to reach some stats for certain characters
It is mainly specific gear requirements from skills like hakuhuo

[stark quiver]

isnt it 5% cr and 50% crit damage base

[vale spindle]

thats genshin idk if that applies to azur lane

[stark quiver]

oh lmfao

[red hawk]

yeah this is the thing I'm really used to, where you're gearing for stat breakpoints. This seems more oriented towards use case gearing

[undone plover]

Yeah I thought that is what u meant
But afair we dont even have a single ship that has breakpoints for certain stats

[red hawk]

I will say, it does make it a little more modular especially when levelling other ships, it's great for OPSI grind when I can just take all my gear and swap it to my levelling ships

[whole crypt]

anyway does Yuudachi META have lower eva than Kawakaze META or something I vaguely remember something about Trafalgar debuff being good enough but it's not overcapping hit, it's Aurora that did

[hazy olive]

okay so I may have made a minor mistake

[undone plover]

And with time u will have enough gear to not need to swap

[hazy olive]

I have a max MLB’d Oumi sitting at Lvl 80 whilst everything else bobs around at level 50

send help

[vale spindle]

5% cr and 150% cd base https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Critical_Hits

[stark quiver]

thats fine

[red hawk]

wtb like 1mil purple gen plates

[whole crypt]

flagship and dealing more damage makes her gain XP faster just use her to carry other ships while they level

[hazy olive]

And a level 70 Hakuhou

so rn my gameplay is:

Dodge
Dodge
Dodge

Oumi Hakuhou Go Go Go

[red hawk]

is it ever worth spending medals on plates if I buy out all the other stuff

[hazy olive]

note this is both of my fleets 😭

[undone plover]

I think the lower van pressure allows running chapa which was not a thing vs kawakaze from what I remember
That is why u overcap if u run both her and traf or aurora alone

[vale spindle]

actually its 150% my bad, so crit hits do 1.5x more damage than a normal hit

[boreal wagon]

note: 150% meaning they do 50% more dmg

[hazy olive]

“Fun and engaging gameplay” and I’m just pretending it’s Undertale boss fights

[whole crypt]

unless you're fighting something significantly above level the dodge part can be replaced by auto

[stark quiver]

up to you
i usually dont

[red hawk]

just feels like I chew through plates for aux

[whole crypt]

you do

[undone plover]

Only grey plates for the ppl who know

[red hawk]

and main guns for that matter

[stark quiver]

grey plate lore

[undone plover]

There is purple selector plates
Dont forget to use them like I never did

[stark quiver]

those exist? i forgot

[undone plover]

The ones that say ALL

[red hawk]

you mean the ones from the weekly and stuff

[remote token]

They are useless for me since I have 1k+ of each 😭

[red hawk]

yeah I found those after like a month

I believe the commander boost gives you a chunk, as well as the level packs

[undone plover]

Yeah could be

[whole crypt]

1k isn't a lot if you go on a spree enhancing shit

[red hawk]

plus 20 weekly

gold gear uses more purples to 10 doesn't it

[remote token]

My 4 main fleets have pretty much most of their gear at +10 minimum

[whole crypt]

if you're done enhancing gold rudders, shells and catapults then maybe yeh you start leaving plate scarcity

[undone plover]

There is a chart on wiki idr

[remote token]

I have 7 unused white shells at +10 for context

No, 10

[vale spindle]

clarified on the wiki

[remote token]

7 was black shells

[whole crypt]

if you're at the point where you have spares because you're lazy to swap or some shit you're fine

[red hawk]

bro this is racism

JP/EN costs more CN doesn't

[remote token]

My bad
I lied to everyone. I have 3.5k purple plates for just aux
I thought it was much less

[red hawk]

i am an opressed minority

[whole crypt]

wait till you hear CN also needs less XP for lv1-100 and can level to 100 without LBing

[undone plover]

CN can low cost C maps

[stark quiver]

wait until you hear TW is chronically behind

[remote token]

But they get less boob on skins so worth it

[undone plover]

Actually can u lowcost C?

[whole crypt]

you can but it may be dependent on gimmick

[stark quiver]

is it normal to be on only wave 14 for minigame

[forest palm]

isn't TW server a fucking mess in terms of how the events are ran?

[stark quiver]

yez

[whole crypt]

if you're not progressing it very much yes

[stark quiver]

interesting

[forest palm]

upgrade your shit la

[red hawk]

discrimination in action

[whole crypt]

it's their game they can do what they want

[forest palm]

blame JP cause that's who we follow

[whole crypt]

don't ask me why JP decided to make the hurdles harder

of course it's to make player spend more money

[red hawk]

I just felt like I remembered the cost being more for gold as I was levelling my stuff, it's just weird that even stuff like upgrade costs are different by region

I've experienced where they have different items/cosmetics/characters by region, but usually stuff like that is pretty static

[undone plover]

It stops mattering after a while
Dont feel too bad about it

[whole crypt]

just pretend it doesn't exist unless you intend to play on CN

[undone plover]

Now if gold plate income was different

[whole crypt]

it also doesn't affect the top end shit like awakening and +13

[red hawk]

no I mean it doesn't actually bother me, though I do wish it was the same because it would be nice to have saved all those plates at this point lol

[stark quiver]

mfw i have a +13 sg radar

[whole crypt]

just keep playing you stop needing more plates at some point

[viral solar]

I need help

[stark quiver]

[undone plover]

If you are new just hit request support
Join an active guild if u havent