gameplay-help

[safe nexus]

for research academy i set to series 8?

[fiery scroll]

Hi guys, i just unlocked Augment, should i hold off on crafting? im using the Basic Team (Unicorn, Pennslyvania, Portland, Helena, Javelin, Long Islang)

[wind hazel]

yes, hold off

[atomic abyss]

Yes hold off it
You should save the resources for a few specific unique augments

[fiery scroll]

alright, good that i asked hehe, Till when tho?*

[atomic abyss]

If you have the crafted ones lying around as drops
Feel free to use them tho

[fiery scroll]

ah aite mate

[atomic abyss]

Just don't upgrade them

As for the unique ones
San Diego and Hood are the common "first" picks

Really depends on who you are actively using

[wind hazel]

might be moving towards Monarch nowadays

[atomic abyss]

How was her aug btw
I didn't follow
I only heard she's still a flag barrager

[wind hazel]

if you can get hood before then of course sitll hood

[atomic abyss]

^this anyways

[wind hazel]

monarch aug puts her ahead of izumo

[atomic abyss]

Oh that's neat
So she's comfortably in the top few SR BBs again
100% proc now I assume?

[wind hazel]

ye 100% aug

[fiery scroll]

well, the only team i have is the normal one, coz i havent pull anything, still waiting for event to come for pull thats worth it

[wind hazel]

eva decrease as well which is neat

[atomic abyss]

Breaking the IJN dominance on SR BBs lul

[eternal basalt]

Pretty sure only final boss can drop

[turbid marsh]

not really

[wind hazel]

wrong, i got mine on first boss

😭 hassat how are you being constantly wrong despite a wiki member

[atomic abyss]

So now best SR BBs are like
Monarch, Owari, Izumo?

[cobalt rapids]

its still daisen

[atomic abyss]

Who else am I missing besides Stella

Oh right I forgot Daisen lul

[cobalt rapids]

daisen flandre owari

[atomic abyss]

Not to defend him but uh

Being a good wiki dev doesn't mean you're the wiki yourself

[wind hazel]

i believe in lars

[atomic abyss]

I don't think even Lars is a walking Wikipedia himself

[eternal basalt]

Palpetine voice: I AM the wiki

[civic prairie]

Does doing hardmode on higher world increase chance of getting gold retroprints?

Or it is same rate?

[forest palm]

we don't know, but it does give more core data so there's benefit to doing the highest world you can

[silk helm]

why is DD eva fleet tech not prio?

[forest palm]

cause DDs don't need more EVA

certainly not going to reach any sort of break point even if you have all the EVA tech for DDs

[soft raft]

They already have fucktons of EVA by default while cruisers dont

[silk helm]

DD FP it is then

[silk helm]

holy flex

[forest palm]

like...DD ASW Tech would be more useful than DD EVA

[brazen swift]

any ship changes/gear lab suggestions for this mob fleet?

[viscid swift]

how is this a mob fleet

[forest palm]

weird lookin ass mob fleet

[wind hazel]

it's terrible, all i can say

[brazen swift]

so advice?

[silk helm]

let him cook

[viscid swift]

well what is this a mob fleet supposed to be for

[brazen swift]

world 14/1

[soft raft]

Where did Unicorn go

That musashi is gonna die a horrible death without a healer

[wind hazel]

"no unicorn, 0 point"
-cheeky, 2019-

[silk helm]

How am I doing

[wind hazel]

not goldburn, 9.5

[forest palm]

looks bog standard

[silk helm]

going all in on FP fleet tech now

0 BB rld Bedge

[forest palm]

now that's just wrong

[wind hazel]

ew

[silk helm]

why 🙁

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/

[silk helm]

someone said do ACC first... but now i shifted to doing RLD for meta fights

[forest palm]

doing Hit first ain't bad, but 0 RLD is also ass

[silk helm]

chat, im going to finish bb rld in a month

[forest palm]

why a month?

[silk helm]

sped run

[forest palm]

that's slow

[silk helm]

no way... u can finish rld in less?

[knotty jolt]

Why +11 a repair kit

[silk helm]

mis click

[knotty jolt]

[late flame]

-# i took a year kek

[agile patrol]

-# i love this emote so much

[fiery scroll]

Hi Guys, for Team wise, im using the Guild Shop Ships, is there any other reason use other ships from the guides, other than the Guild shop?

[wind hazel]

there are ogood ships taht you may gotten from medal shop or from event that can replace some of the beginner ships easily

like hood<>pennsylvania etc, enterprise<>longisland etc

depends on what you have

[eternal basalt]

I +11 all my repair kits

[knotty jolt]

[spark patio]

is it good to use 2 CAs to tank in mob fleet?

[wind hazel]

depends on how good they are

and CA doesn't mean they are automatically tank either

[fiery scroll]

for shop priority, for example, eagle pack, is it just the T4 pack thats priority? what about T1~3

[eternal basalt]

Don't buy them

[fiery scroll]

oO

[wind hazel]

T4 packs aren't exactly priority either, unless they are heavily discounted

why is it missing explanation for this one...

[fiery scroll]

ah okok....

good to know

[spark patio]

prinz and saint louis

[oblique mortar]

after retrofitting helena and portland, should I retrofit yuudachi, essex or eldridge next

[spark patio]

huh? i thought heavy cruiser was tanker not dps

[sterile jolt]

Some DD's are tankier than CB or CA, some CL tankier than CB and CA. Depends on ship

[wind hazel]

you can use them both, sure, if both max limit break

[eternal basalt]

Hope not Prinz Eugen

[wind hazel]

what are essex and eldridge status? both mlb? or 0lb?

[oblique mortar]

both 0lb atm

[spark patio]

prinz did but saintlouis dev 22 and she stil doing well

[oblique mortar]

it's just for in the near future since helena and port still need their retrofits

[wind hazel]

if you lack CV especially UR ones then get essex first

sounds like you're still new-ish so eldridge might not be that impactful for you

compare to essex anyway

[wind hazel]

kick off louis

[eternal basalt]

Or get the new UR

[sterile jolt]

And UR SS xd

[wind hazel]

you can use more than just 1 UR CV

2 UR CV is better than 1 UR CV, i hope you realize that

[oblique mortar]

yeaaa my only CV I use is unicorn so having 1 more couldn't hurt

[spark patio]

but i dont have any good ship to use..

[eternal basalt]

Yes, but one is easier than the other (if they even have Essex material)

[wind hazel]

if they are asking which to retrofit, it's assumed that they have it....

[oblique mortar]

I have essex' thingamabob

[wind hazel]

do you have a thread, lemme see dock

[spark patio]

aight sure

[oblique mortar]

is yuudachi just out of the question

[wind hazel]

or you can just screenshot vanguard and post here, surely wont be more than 2 ss

yes yuudachi is very low priority

[spark patio]

im doing a sorte wait

[oblique mortar]

alr good

now I know I don't need to buy her eau de barbecue and can just invest in ur bulins

[wind hazel]

yes, even among the shop priority, hers probably come dead last

rather get DDG than her

[oblique mortar]

wow... my goat washed...

[spark patio]

here my dock

[eternal basalt]

~~No, it's Eugen ~~

[spark patio]

and eldridge, le hardi

[wind hazel]

true, definitely lacking some options. but i'd rather use a mlb London than non mlb louis

[spark patio]

only mlb london? no need to retrofit?

[wind hazel]

might as well if you use her

or if louis still work for you wherever you're grinding, keep using her

just keep coining her, she's pretty high level already anyway

dont wanna lose momentum when event is near

[wind hazel]

keep doing +10bp a day

maybe can reduce a bit, you need coin for event pull too

[spark patio]

btw, can i still get those bps after i reach 150/150

[gray sphinx]

I mean I don't see any other reason why they would give you a specific number for that research focus other than the fact that it's a cap limit lol

[red hawk]

my understanding was that you coin after using catchup bps for DR and then analyze PR bps and coin both

[spark patio]

[red hawk]

at least with proto min max, after you finish DR catchup swap to the pr you're gonna analyze prints on

[gray sphinx]

I mean that or if you wanna play the patient game you use those leftover catchup bps for UR gear prints in the shop and coin it all the way without using bps

only should do that for ships that can be coined obviously

[red hawk]

I saw people advocating for some DR ships, people have different opinions on it for sure

we were talking about it last night I think someone specifically mentioned izumo?

[wind hazel]

yes but only if you start focusing series 6, otherwise very low chance to see it appear at all

[red hawk]

drake and azuma

[spark patio]

i still can use this and focus again and again to get their bps?

[gray sphinx]

I mean if it's a DR that can't be coined then obviously but I don't see any rush DR or PR wise if they're coinable

[wind hazel]

no, 150 is the max you can use for her

[gray sphinx]

no, you cap it out and then you have to move on to the next

[spark patio]

So to dev30 a ship, ussually take us about 2-4 months to finish?

uncoinable ship

[wind hazel]

more like 3-5

2 is extremely fast super outlier

[gray sphinx]

sometimes longer if your rng is absolute doodoo water lol

[red hawk]

we usually get some general bps during events right?

[wind hazel]

that sounds like bad research pick

[spark patio]

mb, i just new to this game about 1-2 months lel

[gray sphinx]

I'm legit getting one or two DR research projects a day rn on PR7

[wind hazel]

sounds like bad season to focus on too...

that's illegal, you can't edit

[gray sphinx]

I missclicked bro

6 and 7 are literally right next to each other

[gray sphinx]

also dafuq is wrong with kearsage

[wind hazel]

[wind hazel]

barely useful in most content, and the UR gear is also barely useful

[gray sphinx]

thank god I'm almost done with napoli and nahk tho. They're both Dev28 rn and I need it to go faster

[spark patio]

is eldridge retro good at tanking?

[wind hazel]

not that hind gun isn't BIS in content where it matters, but the overall impact it would bring vs if you focus 7/8

[sick kettle]

whats so different abt champy and flandre gun

[wind hazel]

just slight dmg and timing difference

[gray sphinx]

LA-9s probably more useful yea in terms of gear. I do plan on going back to PR 6 tho for hind just because she's waifu and I want to 125 her

[spark patio]

look like eldridge worth 7 bulins.imma grind her

[gray sphinx]

I've basically grabbed all the important PRs and DRs at this point so

[red hawk]

eldridge is good

[wind hazel]

sure but be aware you're gonna be pushing series 8 even further

[gray sphinx]

erm I'd start with san diego first tbh retrofitting wise

[spark patio]

how to get sandy

[gray sphinx]

you can use her almost EVERYWHERE and she's available in the medal shop sometimes

[wind hazel]

same as eldridge tbh, and eldridge is even more EVERYWHERE-er than Sandiego

[gray sphinx]

really good against AA heavy fights and now she hits like a truck too with that augment

[spark patio]

ok,imma find sandy

[sick kettle]

wait till she appears in medal shop or you can roll in light banner

[gray sphinx]

I mean I have implacable so her value is less for me but I don't think you really need slows unless you're fighting really really difficult content which is like 10% of the game lol

[wind hazel]

not her slow, but for her vanguard survivability

[sick kettle]

since ur sub is coming whats the best stage to farm for sub exp?

[rain vine]

dont randomly roll in light banner, just do the 1 light roll per day and hope you get spooked

[wind hazel]

you use eldridge a lot in META showdown. sandiego is never a pick there unless you really lacking options

[gray sphinx]

honestly I have never seen anyone talk about eldridge for vanguard survivability lol. All I knew is that she had a pretty good slow on release

[rain vine]

12-1

[spark patio]

this month i got CA and DD, doesnt have sandy

[wind hazel]

that's... that's her entire gimmick that make her super meta

the slow is treated as bonus at this point

[gray sphinx]

okay I'm looking at it rn but come on 15%?

[wind hazel]

you been living in a rock or something 💀

[gray sphinx]

you're really going gambling with this one

you're gambling even harder than helena gamers lol

[wind hazel]

this guy

[rain vine]

it procs fairly reliably because of how many attacks your vanguard takes

[gray sphinx]

if it's worse than helena gaming even tho she's like what 50%? then I don wan it

[wind hazel]

my dude, there's a reason why she's in pvp for every fleet, and why she's often picked when vanguard pressure is high in META showdown

[harsh gust]

enemies aren't attacking with like 1 punch a minute
there will be dozens of bullets on the screen at the same time for one of them to proc it

[rain vine]

eldridge retro is basically mandatory for kawakaze meta to get reliable 1shots

otherwise your vanguard gets demolished

[gray sphinx]

ngl I completely gave up on meta showdowns because they usually aren't too good ship wise, I'm not that big of a collector addict, anddd I don't know how to gear ships for meta showdowns nor does anyone really talk about gear for meta showdowns. Campaign yea but anything else I'm just going in blind lol

like imma be real here lmao

[red hawk]

she is super expensive as far as SR's go though, and the retrofit aint cheap either

[wind hazel]

she's worth the cost

[rain vine]

the current meta showdowns are usually in the pins

[red hawk]

needs like 10+ t3 destroyer

the nice thing, at least when you're telling someone to do eldridge and sandy, is they don't step on each other for retrofit bps, but they do for gold bulins

[wind hazel]

(the forward caption is so useless, i cant see my msg)

you can delay sandiego's retrofit until you wanna tackle maybe w13/14. even 13 is doable without her retrofit

[gray sphinx]

I mean yea but those gear requirements are insane lmao. I'd rather pick up a retrofitted san diego even though "you could put eldridge in more places than san diego". That might be true but do we even have a lot of good AA ship alternatives that are super obtainable other than san diego?

[quaint tapir]

de zeven was one if you rolled her during the tulipa event

[wind hazel]

no but funny enough eldridge is also good AA ship

not a carry like sandiego, but good on her own right

[quaint tapir]

sandy is more used for her raw DPS if i'm not mistaken tho, the AA is just a bonus

[gray sphinx]

enough to tackle W13?

[wind hazel]

brother you can tackle w13 without sandiego..

[gray sphinx]

maybe prior to the augment it was lmao

[gray sphinx]

was it W12 that was plane hell? I can't remember which world they called plane hell again lol

[rain vine]

13

[wind hazel]

13

you can put juneau mob and cheshire boss and you can still win

[hollow gust]

You don't need AA carry for 12

[wind hazel]

can even go full 2019 and use Isuzu

[gray sphinx]

I mean ig if you're gonna overlevel or some shit like that. It's starting to get pretty real for me since I'm at W14

[wind hazel]

what...

[hollow gust]

W14 just build a decent fleet

[gray sphinx]

I won't lie to you but that's what I used. Isuzu and san diego lmao

[wind hazel]

lv120 for w13 is standard

[gray sphinx]

yeaaaa I won't lie to you W14-4 whooped my ass

[wind hazel]

again i really wanna emphasize that you don't need sandiego to go through w13. she's great there for sure, but she isn't a must

no ship is a must

[oblique mortar]

is AL's difficulty spike vertical

[gilded carbon]

The Problem i have with this List, while factually correct, is that for most Players all of these will Work in Most content. And until one has all If those, most of wich arent available anyway, they likely got powercreept already.

[gray sphinx]

is it the same on the same level as saying you don't need guam or laffey II for W15?

[wind hazel]

i finished my w15 without them...

[gray sphinx]

I think I'm good then lmao. My tech points also suck balls

I only have 15k total tech points

[hollow gust]

Day 1 w15 was yatsen Sandy harbin , still works well

[wind hazel]

actually i lied, i think i used guam

[gray sphinx]

mahn I need guam to rerun soon

[wind hazel]

but plenty of others did w15 without them

[viscid swift]

Let me put it like this, if you were to to start over would you actually prioritize any ships in the bottom half of the list in the top half

[wind hazel]

the list is made for the time it was being made, of course it won't be true going forward

[viscid swift]

Because you don't have the resources to do them all

[viscid swift]

This was a few weeks ago at most lamo

[gilded carbon]

I dont argue against the list, i understand that.

[red hawk]

yeah I'll definitely say I've been playing for a few months now and I have like... 4 ships on this list? and even then I have 0mlb shinano, retro sandy, partial retro eldridge, barely levelled partial retro essex, and thats about it

[wind hazel]

yeah i mean in like 2-3 years in the future

[viscid swift]

Also what the fuck did I miss

[red hawk]

most of them arent obtainable for me anytime soon

[wind hazel]

you missed someone say eldridge invulnerability is worse than helena radar 😭

[red hawk]

it'll be multiple years before I have some, and by then new ships will be out

[viscid swift]

Also Kearsarge is truly dead now

Lion is just straight up better in USN CV fleet

[red hawk]

im terrible at looking at skills, is that the skill she gets with her retrofit?

[rain vine]

its an upgrade to her existing skill

[gray sphinx]

I won't lie to you but idk how I feel with yuudachi being in the same category as warspite and shimakaze lol

[wind hazel]

it's the blue skill

[red hawk]

I just know someone told me not to use her as a tank till I finish the retrofit and to use saint louis for now

[wind hazel]

but yes it needs the retro

[viscid swift]

Consider that her current META is comparable to her retrofit

[wind hazel]

well yes, if you're using her before retro, it's only for leveling purposes, and it stops there

[hollow gust]

Warspite is far more valuable then yuudachi and shima

[quaint tapir]

don't the poi meta prelims put her higher than poi retro for usefulness in content?

[red hawk]

I was told not to invest in yuudachi at this point

[viscid swift]

I haven't looked to deep into her

[red hawk]

like literally by you mori, when I was looking for new vanguard

[wind hazel]

i believe i only said her retro is very low priority
(or maybe I did, previously)

[quaint tapir]

yeesh

[oblique mortar]

oof

[wind hazel]

but you're not wrong either, i wouldnt invest in yuudachi

[red hawk]

thats a good possibility. but I think it may have also been based on investment cost at the time

since I used a lot of collab ships already

[viscid swift]

No unrelated gifs in this channel

[clever valley]

speaking of collabs i know nothing about date a live should i be looking to get any of them or have they even been announced

[wind hazel]

we know nothing about it

[viscid swift]

The collab won't drop until November most likely

[red hawk]

so I started as a new player during a collab event and I'll tell you this much, the collab ships aren't gonna be somme super meta thing you need, most of them are pretty close to collection level from what I've been told.

[gray sphinx]

PLEASE YOSTAR finally give us some L2D collab skins

[viscid swift]

But Date a Live is a LN/Anime Series

[clever valley]

ah kk, for some reason i thought it was dropping the same time as the new UR's

[red hawk]

that being said, it's really on you whether to pull or not, but it's not going to be something you pull for need

[wind hazel]

some are good, they can help new players, especially with free augment ones

[gray sphinx]

nah that'd be crazy

people would riot it's probably after UR event

[wind hazel]

like Toloveru collab had really strong ships

[novel solstice]

We know nothing about how good the ships will be in terms of combat potential, though judging by past collabs they are unlikely to be much better than ships you can easily get elsewhere in game.
However, collabs don't always re-run, so if you like collecting all the wifus, grab them while you can because they may never return.

[harsh gust]

even if it did - we wouldn't know how good they are and should you roll or not until they release anyway

[red hawk]

yeah, I'm using a couple of the atelier ships I got from my first collab right now, but I just meant they're not gonna break the meta

[wind hazel]

yes, they are not UR, therefore doesn't fit azur lane's agenda

[red hawk]

theres a good chance if you're still not that far into the game when a collab comes around, there will be a ship or two that would be an upgrade for a newer player, plus the difficulty curve on collab events is lower

[gray sphinx]

didn't gridman and atelier collabs give basically meta ships on release too? Like on their initial release

[viscid swift]

Meh

[hollow gust]

"Meta" is a stretch

[wind hazel]

dont remember any goldburn was top tier though

[red hawk]

the tier list said there's a few atelier ships that are useable into w15

at least the one carrier for mobbing

[wind hazel]

the tractor is also great FP aux, that's about it

[viscid swift]

Some of them were good for campaign but got pretty quickly powercrept

[quaint tapir]

problem with collab ships is mostly that they take SSR costs to LB without giving any tech, making them pretty bad for newbie PR progression

[hollow gust]

A lot of non top meta are enough for w15,

[clever valley]

having never seen DAL i probably wont pull for any of them unless it comes out one of then is a must have

[red hawk]

which atelier collab are you talking about though

because there were two sets

[gray sphinx]

the original one with reisalin in it

[viscid swift]

The first one probably since Ryza was at least someone notable on her release

[red hawk]

yeah I'm not gonna disagree, it's definitely left me with a lack of gold bulins, between retros and everything

[silk helm]

whats goldburn?

[wind hazel]

i prefer klaudia

[red hawk]

everything needs gold bulins and those ssr's ate through them, but the collabs tend to drop more for dupes

[gray sphinx]

yea had klaudia, reisalin, and kala

[gray sphinx]

patricia was whatever I think

[red hawk]

kala is my tank Nina is my BB and Yumia my CV

[quaint tapir]

eats gold burins, eats augment mats, eats gold when you're hurting the most for gold
even if it's an upgrade it's prolly one of the worst investments you can make early on unless you're really struggling or really like the collab

[gray sphinx]

thank god I picked that one up

[red hawk]

I mean you're literally preaching to someone whose fleet from 8 on was half atelier ships that needed augs

[viscid swift]

Kala was never meta

[red hawk]

not to mention yumia plates for gear

[viscid swift]

She was only ever a good transitional option

[red hawk]

I wouldn't actually recommend a newer player do what I did, I just did it because I wanted them

but there are a few ships that aren't bad compared to what normal stuff newer players have access to

[wind hazel]

it really depends on the new player's acc really

[silk helm]

wait when was this? did i miss it?

[viscid swift]

Ryza was good for a short fight but ships that dealt more damage came along and yeah

[quaint tapir]

i feel bad for people that start during collabs because they get their progression messed up a bunch

[whole crypt]

any poi flotte yet

[gray sphinx]

it was during the gridman collab no? I could be wrong

[viscid swift]

Mostly copying Kawakaze fleets for now

[gray sphinx]

fair enough yea

[wind hazel]

from SSSS collab

[inland shoal]

And equip extinguishers

[silk helm]

wow im too new player for it

[red hawk]

I don't feel like it really hurt me tbh, it allowed me to grind levels and get resources that kinda offset some of the investment, I snored through world 12

[gray sphinx]

yea that shit is pretty old now

[whole crypt]

I did, almost died

[wind hazel]

rip uninstall totally gapped by vets

[gray sphinx]

probably missed it by 3-4 whole months lmao

[viscid swift]

Did you use fire extinguishers?

[silk helm]

imagine having two afcts...

[whole crypt]

I heard about that let me try...

[stark quiver]

i only have 1

[whole crypt]

is the burn damage that bad or is it just the DR being janky

[viscid swift]

Both

[stark quiver]

whos dr

[silk helm]

we're so gapped by old ppl

[wind hazel]

doctor

damage reduction

[viscid swift]

Alpha is older than me

[gray sphinx]

yeaaaa I only have one

[whole crypt]

doctor who

[wind hazel]

no that's dw

[gray sphinx]

I got too lazy to farm the gear when it reran

[stark quiver]

[gray sphinx]

definitely should've but I guess HPFCR will do

[silk helm]

well see how hard it is to do new meta w only 1 afct

[whole crypt]

HPFCR exists so

[viscid swift]

About as hard as it was to do Kawakaze META

[silk helm]

oh nice

[stark quiver]

i thought she had 1.8m ehp

[gray sphinx]

yea AFCT is just HPFCR pro max lol

[whole crypt]

basically anything you can do with table you can do with radar just slightly worse

[stark quiver]

afct gives 3% more hit rate

[gray sphinx]

thank god for that. Now missing the guam gun kind of sucks tbh

[stark quiver]

nah, i dont even use that shit

idek why I +13d it

[wind hazel]

how often do you even use a CB

it's really mainly for campaign

[viscid swift]

Never these days really

[stark quiver]

my vpn gonna run out and i go offline

[wind hazel]

lol noob

[stark quiver]

well at the very least i can play al on my phone

[gray sphinx]

I mean it's aight there's no way they lock content behind requiring two afcts lol. Definitely better than hpfcr for sure tho

[wind hazel]

-# why do you need vpn

[gray sphinx]

[whole crypt]

don't forget spread

[stark quiver]

oh right

[whole crypt]

anything you can do with 2 AFCTs you can do with 2 HPFCRs just with less consistency, if there's something that you strictly cannot do with 2 radars but can with 2 tables it's also not going to be consistent for the tables

[stark quiver]

who are some good vanguards for this fight that isnt called z52,eld,chappy,aurora,traf

too good for helena

[inland shoal]

Napoli Ply DDG

[stark quiver]

would i possibly need eld

[whole crypt]

I'm keeping eldridge as long as it 100%s because I'm lazy to change ships out

[stark quiver]

i no have max techy

[whole crypt]

but I'm not maxed either

[stark quiver]

do you have 25 bbhit, 19bb rld 51 bb fp
22 cv hit, 42 cv rld and 47 cv avi

[dark hazel]

for hidden zones in opsi, is it at all necessary to use the teleport to leave or can I just use the exit button since it's already cleared?

[cobalt rapids]

its the same thing

[stark quiver]

exit and dip

[dark hazel]

[spark patio]

can those fleet beat W11

[cobalt rapids]

try

[rapid shard]

Looks better than mine when I cleared it

[stark quiver]

[quaint tapir]

should clear 11 pretty easily unless you have a major equipment skill issue

[fleet berry]

I usually give the AFCT to my off-flag and give one of my vanguard the USB drive as an alternative. It is a +500 HP aux anyway.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ascension_Box

[safe nexus]

at the research academy its using my cube, do i do it?

[stark quiver]

which research and how many cube u have

[gray sphinx]

does the usb even work like that?

[stark quiver]

it reduces spread

[safe nexus]

i would like to save my cube for an upcoming collab so i dont really wanna use any, so i wanna know is it necesarry

[fleet berry]

-2 spread. AFCT deals -3 spread.

[gray sphinx]

yea but he's equipping it on his vanguard fleet

[fleet berry]

Ascension Box: If your Flagship is a BB, BC, or BBV: decreases that ship's Main Gun Spread Angle by 2.

It says your flagship, not the equipping ships.

[boreal wagon]

because the effect specifically targets the flagship so it doesnt matter who it sits on and 500 HP is good for vanguards

[gray sphinx]

so it doesn't matter who equips it?

[wind hazel]

you can skip the cube researches

[whole crypt]

the point is anything that you can do with table not radar isn't going to be consistent even for table

[fleet berry]

Yes, it doesn't matter.

[gray sphinx]

hmm Imma check to see if I have that on me otherwise I might just be shit outta luck lmao

[safe nexus]

ok thx, does series 8 only have cube? cause i have 4 here and they all use cube

[wind hazel]

no, it's just bad rng for you

[dark hazel]

no, what research options pop up is random

[wind hazel]

what's the last one?

[safe nexus]

😭 4 ina row?

[wind hazel]

what's the other one, non cube

[safe nexus]

why i can only queue one research ic ant research another

[safe nexus]

series 5 for free

[wind hazel]

series 5 what, D? G? Q? how many hours, purple or blue or gold

[fleet berry]

Just put a screenshot.

[wind hazel]

C? free kinda shit to get these lineups

[ivory karma]

You should have an option at the bottom to refresh once a day.

[wind hazel]

sir...

[safe nexus]

i accident start a research without checking the cost :D

[wind hazel]

you can take the far right one

[gray sphinx]

damn your gold is cooked lol

[safe nexus]

ye but i gonna start farming rn

[fleet berry]

Gold Napoli is not bad either.

[ivory pawn]

Welp, you’re stuck with that one, just hit queue.

[gray sphinx]

as you should you got 11k oil brotha lmao

[safe nexus]

i did

somehow i cant start or anything

start another*

[dark hazel]

you have to add it to queue first

[gray sphinx]

no click back on it and press queue unless that button actually doesn't work which I highly doubt lol

[safe nexus]

i added the research to queue now its at the button mid left

[wind hazel]

if it's buggy restart your game

[safe nexus]

ok

[sharp comet]

how often does double gem reset? once per year?

[safe nexus]

still cant

[wind hazel]

can you take a video of what you're doing?

[sweet delta]

Can't what

[safe nexus]

wrong pic oops and i cant take a video

[sharp comet]

MORI MY GPH GOAT TELL ME

[cobalt rapids]

every en anni for en

[wind hazel]

so when you click on the middle one, and you click queue... it doesn't get put into the queue list?

[ivory pawn]

Tap the project in the center. Tap Queue.

[safe nexus]

basically this

its in the queue but i cant start another project even tho its there

[ivory pawn]

No, it’s not.

[dark hazel]

It's not in the queue

[wind hazel]

😭 it's not in the queue

[sweet delta]

To already stated another

[safe nexus]

then what is that 😭

[wind hazel]

in the queue, it's a Q research you picked earlier

[cursive blaze]

My modernization button for unicorn is greyed out but i have all the requirements (full limit break, items, coins…) she isn’t in any (exercise) fleet, locked or in a secretary position. Does anyone know what else i can do?

[safe nexus]

thats what i did

[wind hazel]

you took this one as a new one, but you haven't added it

[ivory pawn]

Do it again.

[safe nexus]

no i didn't

[wind hazel]

you did, it's queued
but not added to queue list

[viscid swift]

Did you do all the required nodes before it

[cursive blaze]

Yup, that’s the only one i have left

[sick kettle]

did you also fullfill lvl requirement?

[safe nexus]

ok its just confusing for a bit i get it now

[cursive blaze]

She’s lvl 93 so i think so

[viscid swift]

You need level 85 for her modernization node

[viscid swift]

Take a screen shot?

[cursive blaze]

Sure gimme a min

[safe nexus]

so do i prioritize those with girls as the background?

[wind hazel]

nah, take Q if possible

[viscid swift]

Where are you even in the main campaign

[dark hazel]

Is w14 hm close enough to normal that I can run the same fleet?

[viscid swift]

You need a bullin or dupe

[wind hazel]

put a bulin/unicorn dupe

[red hawk]

needs a gold bulin or dupe

purple bleh

[safe nexus]

the cube one?

[viscid swift]

In the empty box

[cursive blaze]

Oooohhh alright thanks, didn’t know that

[wind hazel]

no it's plates

[viscid swift]

There is no w14 hard mode

[cursive blaze]

😼

[safe nexus]

ok thanks

[dark hazel]

I hit hm and it took me back to w13, I'm cooked my bad

[cursive blaze]

Thank you for the help🙏🏻

[viscid swift]

I'm wondering if they should even be focusing on research at this point

[sweet delta]

Focus on Q for sure

[ivory pawn]

No harm in at least keeping it going, even if they have to take free researches to do so.

[weary edge]

is there any stage worth farming in chapter 7

[safe nexus]

is doing T worth it?

[viscid swift]

No

[weary edge]

if u got no other option then ig, but usually no

[sweet delta]

To save cubes AND coins, new players should prioritize Q for plates, E for scrap gear (NOT tech packs or blueprints), T for doing commissions, or C for free

[safe nexus]

thanks

[sweet delta]

But T and C are complete garbage if you're rich in coins to pick D and G

You're broke though, especially with a UR event this week

[safe nexus]

😭

[weary edge]

is there any stage worth farming in chapter 7

[deep totem]

no

[weary edge]

wb ch6

[red hawk]

nothing before 9

[weary edge]

so not even ark royal or yuudachi

[red hawk]

you shouldnt be farming map ships early on

[weary edge]

yeah but i need the xp so i dont rly have a choice

[ivory pawn]

If you’re stuck in w7 or wherever, no harm in farming the map that drops Ark until you can do w8.

[ashen saffron]

is it me or i don't see any escort fleet ? cuz idk what to do

[red hawk]

yeah at that point its just kinda whatever the highest you can do is

[weary edge]

ur doing clesr mode

[viscid swift]

turn off clearing mode before you enter the map

[red hawk]

turn off clearing mode

[frank phoenix]

Somebody told me to farm SP Polaris stage 5 cuz oil cap or something

[weary edge]

yeah do that

[ivory pawn]

You should! But you can only do 4 a day, pretty sure you get more oil than that.

[weary edge]

also bc the equipment u get after grtting 60 clears is rly good since it gives evasion and speed

[frank phoenix]

Yeah,also decent gear at 50 clears

[ashen saffron]

oh i see- my bad

[frank phoenix]

It's 50 for Polaris,I think the other recomanded one has 60 clear req

[weary edge]

polaris lance

no it’s 60, just checked

[frank phoenix]

I had 60/60 by the time I got to clear everything else and being lvl locked on w7

[sweet delta]

Would you say SP5 was as hard as chapter 6 or 7 or 8 or maybe your ships were over leveled?

[frank phoenix]

Umm

Lvl 80+ Malessea mowing everything in 10 seconds

Lvl 80+ retrofit unicorn mowing mobs in 15-20 seconds

The rest of the crew there just for decoration at this point

[weary edge]

nahh sp5 is definitely easier, id say around chapter 6 lvl if not easier

[safe nexus]

i just need to 3* 3-4 hard mode? then i can grind it at its max?

[frank phoenix]

You can auto grind ur 3 daily attempts even at 2 stars

[red hawk]

you just wont get the 3* mission reward till you do

[frank phoenix]

Some stages are a bit cunty and require multiple clears before being able to auto it

Had some stages at 50% after 2* clear

I like keeping some stages at 2* to get the clear rewards on "dark days" xD

[ashen saffron]

do i ues her for a LimitBreak or not ? ( i know what is LimitBreak btw )

[safe nexus]

do i convert my stuff to protocore?

[ivory karma]

You use them for UR ships. if that's the question

[ivory pawn]

If just the one, hold onto it until you have or can obtain 4.

[safe nexus]

idk do i use combat data pack for anything else same for PR/DR print

[deep totem]

no, always turn it into protocore

[safe nexus]

ok and how do i do that?

[ivory pawn]

Depot > find the CDC > Analyze.

[safe nexus]

ok thanks

[ashen saffron]

k

[sweet delta]

the enemy in SP5 is 11 levels higher than in 6-4, and there is one extra mob battle

[safe nexus]

during hard mode im force to pick my only CV which is yorktown, is she good enough till ig et enterprise?

[sweet delta]

Ok, Saratoga if available, otherwise put Yorktown or whoever

[safe nexus]

ko thanks guess im grinding for her

[crisp raven]

when will be the next banner event ?

[safe nexus]

which do i buy at proto shop?

[wind hazel]

start from top, with the BB guns

[wind hazel]

friday

[safe nexus]

oh ty

[silk helm]

tyty

[safe nexus]

do i use special general bp?

and general bp? i target same priority or do i just focus more on protocore

[wind hazel]

depends on which series they are from. for example series 3 ones you can convert them into protocore. series 4 you can use to speedup anchorage/agir

[safe nexus]

if 7?

[wind hazel]

though im sure you can't do this right now since you probably dont have a single dev30 ship yet

[wind hazel]

keep for nakhimov

[safe nexus]

so do i just ignore them till i can?

[wind hazel]

just convert any combat data packs for now

[safe nexus]

alright thx

best way to grind a ship i want from a stage is to kill all the enemy instead of the boss?

[wind hazel]

nah just let auto grind do its thing

[safe nexus]

peak ok

[red hawk]

why is it so inefficient to map clear escorts for max xp

[whole crypt]

you're not losing that much honestly just save yourself the trouble

[viscid swift]

well for one autosearch can't get all the escorts

two, you're nerfing your coin efficiency by going for all the escorts

[red hawk]

ok that's what I was curious about, seems to me if you were maxing xp you'd want to kill em all, but if it's about maximizing sorties that makes sense too

I only do full clears when I do the star run

[whole crypt]

the only XP you're "losing" is the 10 more entry oil for starting a new map

[red hawk]

sometimes I do stuff because Im told to but then I ask later so I actually understand why

[weary edge]

ig i never rly struggled with it so

[elfin hollow]

Anecdotally, my first time doing PP stage 5 ended in a B rank with all but Helena surviving and Pennsylvania dropping to 15% health because I only ran 1 fleet so I was forced to do Gascogne muse out of ammo

My ships were like level 65 average

[red hawk]

speaking of oil consumption I tried to ask awhile back and it got lost in the shuffle, but at what point is oil consumed for each individual battle? If I leave midfight is the oil consumed, or only on fail/pass state?

there's been a time or two where I've have had to back out of an autofight because I set stuff up wrong or something, and I guess I never really checked

[rain vine]

you lose 1 oil per ship sortied
after the fight is finished, the rest of the oil is consumed

[red hawk]

so at worst leaving I'm out 6 oil

[viscid swift]

yes

[red hawk]

ok that's basically nothing

not that id want to make a habit of it or anything but at least you don't lose the whole oil cost of a fight each time

[undone plover]

use this version from now on pls I cleaned it up a bit and changed minimum to prio so ppl dont get confused

[lyric stump]

Y tenrai priority

[hollow gust]

Cause good plane you use basically everywhere

[stark kestrel]

hello! im sure this has been answered but I couldn't find the answer through a quick search, but are there any good tier lists that are up to date that a new-ish player can follow?\

[soft raft]

At best ECTL for early game
And suchi has one for late game

There's also the Chinese one but they 1) operate on a different criteria than ECTL and 2) It's in a different language

[whole crypt]

ECTL isn't for early game, it's for midgame which is why it's basically pointless
early game just follow newbie tips

[oak cove]

is there a gear guide for types of ship?

[soft raft]

Do you want the simple one or the detailed one?

[wispy cosmos]

quick gear guide for backliners, ectl for vg/subs/oddball ships

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca

[oak cove]

uhhhh probably the simple one for now. am new gear is limited

[undone plover]

It is a very nice upgrade for campaign and decent for heavy bossing (best dive-bomber for heavy boss)
All the other rainbows are more limited in usage generally
Plymouth gun is great but only really an amazing upgrade on plymouth alone (where it matters)
Anywhere else it is like a luxury or smaller difference
457 is mainly mobbing and in campaign u can use champy + radar instead and u will be fine

[stark kestrel]

thanks!!

[ashen saffron]

is there a website were i can see what is the best Equipment for a ship ?

[quaint tapir]

the quick gear guide posted a few messages ago covers like 95% of the ships in the game
the few exceptions usually have something in their skills you can use to deduce they might want something nonstandard

[stuck furnace]

do we know what ur equip is coming with the event

[quaint tapir]

none

SR plane instead

[ivory pawn]

Just a gold plane, speculated to be Ryuusei Kai.

[soft raft]

Not all UR events come with a UR gear

Heck some didn't even have an event gear period like UvH

[quaint tapir]

very likely considering taihou was one of the first carriers to actually be able to use the ryusei IIRC due to elevator space limitations

[slow fox]

@atomic abyss

[atomic abyss]

Oh that's higher than I expected

[slow fox]

Assuming Level 125.

[oblique mortar]

how good is Gouden Leeuw?

[quaint tapir]

top 3 AA, great if you don't have guam (in theory)
in practice nobody really knows for sure because nobody has her dev 30 yet

[oblique mortar]

DAMN

I mean she's uncoinable, a DR and is PR8 soooo figures

when was PR8 released anyways?

[quaint tapir]

about two months ago

[oblique mortar]

DAMN

[slow fox]

I have her as top 5

Oh wait that's me being stupid (unable to read 3 duplicate san diego entries)

[wispy cosmos]

qgg does a very good job when it comes to tailoring gear for content, which is much preferred for backliners and ca gear but isnt nearly as relevant for dd/cl guns. on the other hand ectl tailors gear to ships, which yes is good for the 10% of oddballs but is also better for hulls like ss or dds where it makes more sense to divide them up by a ship's reload preferences than by the armour type theyre facing 99% of the time

[grave venture]

Can anyone tell me what is benefit for doing operation siren because I never did this

[tender girder]

good? for lion i suppose?

[tame pivot]

Didn't even realize I was so close.. but looks like I can exchange for a UR tomorrow lol. Between UVH, Kron, and Vanguard which would you all recommend I pick?

Here's my current Limit Break for each. All the other options I have are already max limit broken

[rain vine]

gear lab, upgrade materials, meta showdown
primarily gear lab

[soft raft]

It's the only source of materials for gear lab, which is where alot of the best gear in the game is obtained from

[lyric stump]

U get more meterial for gears and +13

[rain vine]

vanguard

[grave venture]

Ooh I get it now

[tame pivot]

Two words.. GEAR... LAB..

[lyric stump]

If u want u can wait for musashi

Other wise depends on wut ship u need

[grave venture]

So this is my team can I beat operation siren

[soft raft]

Shinano > Vanguard == NJ > Everyone else

[tame pivot]

I actually looked up who was next since I was curious and saw it was her. But I already have Musashi max limit broken

[wispy cosmos]

do u need a bb or a tank more

[lyric stump]

Nvm then

[rocky lake]

Hi guys just unlocked the UR invitation from completing the quest line in the handbook

[rain vine]

i would suggest opening a thread and post your dock, your teams arent very good

[rocky lake]

who should i get Shinano or NJ?

[rain vine]

.

[rocky lake]

cheers

[turbid marsh]

i wouldn't pick it just yet, basically it means 1 less dock space at this point, assuming u dont have 6+ ur bulins waiting around

[rocky lake]

honestly im doing alright for dock space and yeah unfortunately i am not a multitrillionaire so i dont have 6 UR bulins around

spent the 4 ive got so far on starring Vanguard to max

i pulled vanguard twice so uh dont ask how that happened

[soft raft]

Cursed as hell

[rocky lake]

Blessed as hell

[tame pivot]

My current URs and their LB levels.. think I'll do Vanguard then. Was thinking about making my 4 diff Opsi fleets into faction fleets so could use her for a Royal Navy one.

[soft raft]

The fact that you spent cubes on Perma heavy/special is cursed

[rain vine]

obligatory faction fleet is a meme

[red hawk]

are the bonuses just not worth using the quality of ships you end up with doing faction fleets

[tame pivot]

Well if you have the gems and want to have a nice L2D to enjoy on your homepage.. the Shinano skin that was banned 8 months ago might be returning during the next event.

https://youtu.be/5-XwWZ7lYfk?si=Q8epfKDMbJbX4yQ7

[red hawk]

guessing not collab skins though, just standard releases?

[viscid swift]

not for EN

that's JP's black friday sale effectively

[red hawk]

oh ok, doesnt matter then anyway

[tame pivot]

To my knowledge collab skins are only available during their collabs and don't even come back during the black Friday skin event. Although I may be wrong on that

[viscid swift]

we won't get that until November

[red hawk]

the only skins I'd consider buying at this point would be nina/yumia if they ever brought them back but I kinda assumed that wouldn't happen because collab licensing like usual

i just wanted to ask because it did say every skin released

[tame pivot]

AHH, wasn't sure. Because I'll def snag the Shinano skin myself if it actually comes back

[red hawk]

i figured there would be exceptions

[viscid swift]

there are

there's about a 6 month cut off for the sale

i.e. any skin released or rerun 6 months before the sale begins will not be in the sale

[tame pivot]

Yepp, so skins from the JP anniversary won't be available during our Black Friday event

[red hawk]

oh so even if the atelier collab skins were something that would be available again, it also wouldn't matter because it was in the last 6 months

[viscid swift]

and collabs obviously don't rerun because that's a contract nightmare

[red hawk]

yeah it's really rare that you see collabs that have much permanence

people said they were surprised we got a ryza rerun

though I think I was in the minority of people who enjoyed the events

[sweet delta]

I'll be surprised when we get a hololive rerun

[soft raft]

We've had three Collab reruns
DOA, SSSS Gridman, and now Ryza

Meanwhile neptieight Collab dead in the gutter

Tho I don't think unique augs would really help them

[wispy cosmos]

i mean ur getting to the collection phase at this point tbh, id raise kron first

[red hawk]

ive barely heard of any of the IPs collabing with AL

[viscid swift]

well most of them are JP based

[red hawk]

that's why I was suprised the one carrier was still semi-relevant considering it was an SR on a rerun

[viscid swift]

it's not that suprising given the relatively small amount of good healers in this game

though I can't even remember the last time I reccomended Klaudia or used her myself

[left wasp]

So what's the current 'best' CV/CVL lineups rn? Mainly for Opsi/strongholds

[viscid swift]

outside of farming

[soft raft]

Klaudia is also at best a pre-retro Unicorn sidegrade so lol

[viscid swift]

lines?

[red hawk]

I don't even think I plan on using her, I was just surprised to see she was graded so highly for something, most of the atelier collab ships are D rank across the board

[left wasp]

lineups

Like
whatever 3 cvs/cvls

[soft raft]

Isn't it still UniKai/IndepKai/DB Aquila

[viscid swift]

I have long since stopped caring about OpSi fleet optimization

we're at the point where fleets are so far over the damage cap it really doesn't matter

[verbal plinth]

Luna is nice in op if u have her

[red hawk]

outside of harbiter and certain bosses, mob fleet with uni can handle most of opsi on auto...

[viscid swift]

think Bois Belleau is just straight up better than Luna

[verbal plinth]

Ahh not kept up

[sweet delta]

Pure cap, klaudia is at Perseus level in practice so

[red hawk]

I know some people like to have super fast clears but you don't need amazing kit for opsi

[left wasp]

Well I'm also wondering for META clearing as well

[red hawk]

tier ratings meme acknowledged she's considered S rank and A rank for 14 and 15 mobbing respectively

[tame pivot]

Yepp, I was surprised they even reran the first atelier collab event. Plus some collabs have good gear like the Gridman collab and the Atelier

[soft raft]

As in META Showdown?

[red hawk]

oh yeah meta is it's own thing

[tame pivot]

That's why I made sure to snag these two dynamics too since who knows if they'd ever come back

[left wasp]

that

in as few attempts as I usually needs around 3 or 4 with what I have before the boss comes down

[soft raft]

#al-general at this point

[soft raft]

Having the fastest CVs won't do shit for that

[tame pivot]

Sadge I started after the Gridman collab rerun.

Wish I even had one goldburn

[hearty patrol]

which PR ship do y'all recommend I look into next?

I think I need a vanguard, just not sure which one to go for

[sweet delta]

What season are you focusing on, and show all rainbow ships you have?

[hearty patrol]

I've been on PR4 for a while but will switch soon anyway

[sweet delta]

Switch now unless you're like 47/50 for tenrai

[hearty patrol]

48, close enough

[fallen verge]

is it fine to retire a bunch of universal bulins

feel like ive got way too many

[sweet delta]

So assuming your pr5 to pr8 ships are all close to zero bps, the next ship you should get is Shimanto or Ibuki

[hearty patrol]

I personally use them to limit break random ships

thanks for your recommendation

[sweet delta]

Or it looks like you may have partial progress on 5 and 6, so use catch-up to dev 30 or fs5 shimanto

But focus 7 or 8

[hearty patrol]

will do

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm should focus on harbin or shimanto?

[ivory pawn]

<@&460646206851252224> Scammer #6,364,444

[charred pollen]

/ban 1309309905290788899

[odd root]

zatrovian#0 got banned.

[graceful mica]

guys whats the best way for me to assure myself i can make the best build for each ship and theyre types, what resources do i use and how do i navigate with them. an example would help a lot.

[ivory pawn]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide will get you most of the way there as far as equipment goes.

[graceful mica]

aalright i ll go check it out thanks

[silk helm]

anyone got a % increase in damage going from STAGG to 76mm

[sweet delta]

You can take the numbers from wiki, plug into a fleet AA calculator, and what will you do about the answer?

[silk helm]

decide if i want to make a fourth twin 76 :/

if its like <5% ill just skip, but ill use the calc to confirm

[river junco]

do we know when la-9 prints will be added to proto shop?

[ivory pawn]

No, but maybe January.

[left wasp]

So how long does it usually take to cover enough of the opsi map to unlock everything in the shops?

[viscid swift]

getting all the important stuff just takes a few days

[sweet delta]

For me it takes 10-15 days

People who pay 5000 oil can do it in 4 hours or something idk

[left wasp]

Meh 5k oil is small beans

[left wasp]

realistic

my only hurdle has been the 200 ap really

Is there a way for me to skip the TB dialogue when I clear an opsi area and keep the game in the bg?

[ivory pawn]

Yes, go to Settings and “Reduce TB guidance”.

[stoic basalt]

is there a guide/tips for helena challenge mode? im kinda getting slammed

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/september/

[stark quiver]

the damage is near best in game
and why are you looking at aa damage for backline

anyways we're looking at a 27% increase in damage

[fallen verge]

how big of an upgrade is sandys retrofit

[viscid swift]

pretty massive

[silk helm]

my ships suck 🙁

[stark quiver]

what are said ships

[silk helm]

well i replaced but it was like 3 lvl 100 blue ships for BB rld

[stark quiver]

💀

[viscid swift]

just use AA radars

[silk helm]

ill be honest, this is the first time ive ever heard of them

[stark quiver]

oh hell naw

[soft raft]

Aint no way

[silk helm]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[stark quiver]

more aa stat reduces damage taken from crash damage and whatnot

[sweet delta]

Spent too long living under a rock berke shadow

[silk helm]

I can make a whole lot of them

[stark quiver]

you should not make a whole lot of them

[silk helm]

and to be fair, its not in any gear guide

[stark quiver]

why would it be

the average player would probably never use it

[silk helm]

im the average andy

[left wasp]

What's a good fleet comp for farming meckleberg exp again, especially on top of just farming opsi

[blazing pecan]

Isn't it worth noting that the gun on the right has an AA stat and the gun on the left doesn't?

[soft raft]

any 3 german backliners + 3 good vanguards

[viscid swift]

no

[soft raft]

that AA stat isnt really that much to make mentioning it worthwhile

[stark quiver]

vanugards

[sweet delta]

@slow fox On Laffey retrofit, what are the eHP and AA alpha benefits of using knockoff 130 instead of 130?

[zenith heron]

Any possibility that you guys have already the current datamine for the incoming event by tomorrow? or would it be available at maintenance?

[viscid swift]

the event drops on Friday

and no way we'd have the datamine this early even if it was tomorrow

[stark quiver]

no

[viscid swift]

haven't even got the patch notes yet

[stark quiver]

datamine comes from cn servers update that finishes b4 us
or at least the ship infos

[dense elbow]

Rebuilding my fleets for W14 mob/boss. How did I do?

Unicorn/New Jersey/Essex
Room/L'Indomptable/tai yuan

Massena/Vanguard/Saratoga
Prinz eugen/Kirov/helena

[stark quiver]

definitely could use some major improvements

[dense elbow]

I can't do anything right... I also have Neptune and ibuki building if I ever finish the exp

[red hawk]

Prinz has next to no damage

14 you usually want another healer for too don't you?

[stone sluice]

As suchi said, it takes me 4 hours literally LUL

[viscid swift]

still pretty mediocre

[dense elbow]

working with what i git

[viscid swift]

you may just not be ready for W14

especially if you can't equip them well

[sweet delta]

According to my investigations, you have a lot of strong gold ships like Aquila and Bois, just not leveled

[viscid swift]

well there you go

[sweet delta]

I really wouldn't bring kirov, Helena, or roon muse to 14 though

[dense elbow]

i should have said to get me there

[muted crescent]

just asking since I got her just now: am I supposed to run Kazagumo in mob?

[soft raft]

She mainly is there to buff IJN CVs in OpSi anti-heavy CV comps

[muted crescent]

so I could run her in boss, since my W13 comp is Essex/Enty?

[slow fox]

Which one is the knockoff 130

Which one is the actual 130

[viscid swift]

the Russian one

the one on the bottom right

[slow fox]

No eHP difference.

AA 0.58% diff

From 19.8 to 20.3 or something

[soft raft]

Truly huge

[slow fox]

truly

[soft raft]

Yeah that works if you can keep up the AA

[muted crescent]

I'm planning to run San Diego there anyway

I'm WAY too broke to build her till next month though 😭

[sweet delta]

19.8 and 20.3 is 2.5%

How come no eHP? Less than 0.01%?

[muted crescent]

ok... for W13, what do I need to work on, besides levelling several of the ships here (and developing FdG to at least dev 30 and getting Essex retrofitted and ready to go)

I'm showing fleet as is now, so no way this is clearing W13, I'm just trying to get ready for W14 as well.

[viscid swift]

more breguets for one

[soft raft]

^

[viscid swift]

more gear at _10

[soft raft]

Breguets for basically everyone
cuz they're budget wyverns

[viscid swift]

AP gun for Zwei preferably

[muted crescent]

I don't have any good ones unless I equip the twin 410

[soft raft]

IJN Twin 410? that's HE

[viscid swift]

rip Champagne guns

[soft raft]

or do you mean Daisen Gun

in which case I'm a bit surprised you have that instead of a champy gun

[muted crescent]

nah, it was the purple 410, yeah just looked at it, it's HE

[viscid swift]

mob fleet might not have enough AA

[muted crescent]

yeah... dk who else to use

[viscid swift]

another CV instead of FDG

[soft raft]

do you have Allen M Sumner or Ingrahm

[muted crescent]

ok, Saratoga, easy enough

[soft raft]

that works too

[muted crescent]

no

[muted crescent]

so I can't get them off shop at all either, it's CA remaining for me

[soft raft]

oof

[muted crescent]

lowkey, doing Cheshire might be the play 💀

[soft raft]

yeah that'll work too
and can tide you over until Guam rerun cuz she's basically a super Cheshire

[muted crescent]

wait hold up I might be able to get a champy gun lmfao

[haughty skiff]

Saratoga over FDG, +10 Gear and a AP gun for BisZwei and 1x Brequet is probably enough ?

[muted crescent]

ok I have Champy gun

[haughty skiff]

toss that at +10 on Biszwei & give FDG the +11 MK6; although a second AP Gun would be better for W13 mobbing than MK6

[muted crescent]

well I lowkey might need a Tenrai over that since I'm like 10 prints away from that

[haughty skiff]

you need both

3x AP Guns + Tenrai are like the biggest priority purchases from Protocore

[muted crescent]

well you did tell me to sac PR3 and PR4 catchup so I can get more gear from Proto shop

[haughty skiff]

yeah, that's why you should

[muted crescent]

ik, that's why I'm picking up Cheshire, nearly done with Hindenburg catchup

[wary skiff]

for fast opsci fleet i have lion / aquilla / perseus main and ibuki / jintsuu meta / eldridge vanguard, who should i swap out to make it faster / better?

[sweet delta]

Eldridge of course

[wary skiff]

to?

[sweet delta]

Will this fleet need to auto strongholds?

[wary skiff]

its doing that rn

i had eldridge to finish getting 125 on her but aiming for something better for it

[sweet delta]

I found some fast fleets, options include watarase, atago, dev 20+ gouden, shimakaze, or just the basic harbin/hindenburg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280223721809907742/1408674235454328914/Screenshot_20250822-214739.png?ex=68c1abdd&is=68c05a5d&hm=a2686ede1fd50bcbef655665cb36e5e1be5034478352ec6e991c284fc3e27ec0&

[wary skiff]

awesome, thank you much

[ionic kraken]

i just got u 101 in daily build are they good?

[sweet delta]

101 is a top 3 member of Wolfpack

Wolfpack is currently worse than USS fish pack by like 10%, and we are getting a new IJN UR sub this week

[sweet delta]

Why do daily build on special pool though

[ionic kraken]

i want peter strasser. and didn't get her during wishing well. i just kept getting essex instead

[stark quiver]

[grizzled sundial]

Essex is good with retrofit . Peter is so so and her gimmick is almost the same as AvP.

[ionic kraken]

i want to use them both together. my current objective is to collect all available kms ships

[stark quiver]

essex is a good retrofit, but she isnt best in slot for most fleets other than w15 support
peter is meh

[grizzled sundial]

Do you already have a fleet that can reliably clear event SP stage and W13 ?

[stark quiver]

hm?

[grizzled sundial]

For muffin guy

[ionic kraken]

event sp stages i haven't struggled with campaign im on chapter 10. i haven't gone farther causes each stage clear uses alot of oil until cap is unlocked on it

[grizzled sundial]

So collecting all kms should be on lower priority imo .

[stark quiver]

youre wasting more oil and xp farming stages thats not chapter 12

[ionic kraken]

the thing i was really struggling with is ops si. i had selected older ships when i first started so they keep getting damaged to quickly.

[grizzled sundial]

Hence first thing you do is to have strong enough fleet for neccessary contents which will net you resources for future investment instead of chasing wild goose

I too was aiming to collect KMS when i just started last year , but the needs for coins and resources made me invest in ships that get me easily clear event , w13 and opsi . Now i have spare resources to collect ships .

[stark quiver]

im aiming to collect all ships

[viscid swift]

I don't get it

Strasser was available on the last ticket

[grizzled sundial]

Someone missed it or misused .

[ionic kraken]

i haven't seen strasser on any ticket

[stark quiver]

did you perhaps schroll on the ships at the bottom

[ionic kraken]

i thought i did. now i'm doubting myself

[viscid swift]

ok not the last one but she's absolutely been on tickets before

but anyway

pulling for a ship without a rate up is dumb

it's less than a 0.3% chance

[stark quiver]

wish i still had the aquila image

[grizzled sundial]

May be try your luck with the next event banner , it probably is a CV banner , i remember i got a couple of Peter from one of CV focused event .

[clever valley]

did i see we are getting another selection ticket for 8th anni or did i imagine that

[noble pawn]

Are you playing Global or JP Client? Global was on 7th anniv while JP is 8th

[clever valley]

ah im playing global

[soft raft]

JP only

What does JP even have for their selector again?

[silk helm]

Amagi, Noshiro, Sirius, Bremerton, Belfast, Peter Strasser, Tallinn, or Joffre

source: trust me bro

[spark patio]

what does secret ticket do?

[quiet kiln]

Should i do the tactical class commission that costs 1200 oil at all?

[forest palm]

it's an item for the asmr stuff you can buy

[spark patio]

3D dorm?

[forest palm]

no that's different

I honestly forgot this feature exists but ya

[spark patio]

Forgotten feature

[forest palm]

but ya this is AL's ASMR stuff if that interests you it's there

[spark patio]

does it have Shinano’s?

[forest palm]

don't think so you can check if you want

[spark patio]

where can i check

[vale spindle]

its under the memories button on the bottom right scroll menu thingy

[onyx flame]

shimato exist but it might have been a temp purchase? idk if it reruns

[oblique valley]

just making sure, you can use pr ships to farm exp for other pr ships right

[wind hazel]

you can

[soft raft]

As long as the faction and Hulltype category matches, it counts

[oblique valley]

yurrrr getting agir with mainz 💀

[hardy creek]

Anything to change on sandy for 14-3?

[oblique valley]

btw if i wanna minmax my oil when i'm farming for pr exp, should i just skip the boss node? or do you not bother

[wind hazel]

no, just auto

[wind hazel]

rudder+depth charge if you need the depth charge

ideally better gun as well

maybe something like this. the 76 could benefit your BB better for extra HIT, AA usually isn't an issue for w14

[opaque galleon]

Generally it’s a bad idea since farming W12 gives you twice the coins, 3 times the xp, and gives cog chips, for the same oil cost. It can drop a decent number of cubes occasionally though

[hardy creek]

Alright got it

[cloud panther]

how to actually use the new item? HE friend with Unzen?

[viscid swift]

Honestly

You wouldn't use it

[wind hazel]

not worth using tbh

[soft raft]

Goofy ahh purple gear moment

[wind hazel]

maybe saint louis HE dmg 📈

but if you're already sortieing with unzen, do you even care what the other ship HE dmg is doing

[stark quiver]

whats the new item
idt i even have it

[viscid swift]

The one from the ecent prelude

[stark quiver]

goofy stuff

[viscid swift]

Not even particularly good for FP

[stark quiver]

hold up my pc is spazzing out

but yea it looks pretty ass

[vale spindle]

IXVs pogging

[sweet delta]

Only mebot would use it for FP

[red hawk]

I feel like I have zero use for that

Like it'd be borderline troll to try and use it

[stark quiver]

yes

prelude never fails to disappoint

also what happens if i get eld retro item again, does it turn into 2k coins?

[sweet delta]

Is that what you really think or is that what you just made up after reading recent messages

[red hawk]

It's gonna sit in my depot for years except for MAYBE one niche use where it's barely acceptable right

[grizzled sundial]

I don't even have Unzen to utilize that item...

[stark quiver]

elp

[red hawk]

I mean I don't see what the stats offer that would be worth replacing any standard kit, especially the activation is useless for me

Its definitely not clearly useful for some despite the skill being garbage like some stat items

[stark quiver]

summons fr

[wind hazel]

they turn stingy this year, instead of 2k coin you get a commemorative item instead

[slow fox]

wat

[verbal plinth]

id rather have item than 1 run of 12-4 imo but thats me

[wind hazel]

congrats, next year anni coin will be cucked

just like the port eating one

[stark quiver]

what the fuck is this bullshit

youre telling me i cant retrofit another eldridge?

[wind hazel]

you can || on your second account||

[stark quiver]

[grizzled sundial]

It will be available in the core shop much later while you get the dub one .

[wind hazel]

sir, you can't buy 2nd retrofit item

[grizzled sundial]

then why the sparkling mic still highlight to me even though i already retrofitted Sandy ?

[molten zinc]

try buying sandy/corgi/yuudachi retro item

[wind hazel]

go and try buying it

[noble pawn]

2k specialized core for 2k coins

[molten zinc]

it will say you can't buy it

[grizzled sundial]

The damn shop need to be fixed

what will happen if i retire retro sandy ? Do i get to buy the retro item again ?

[wind hazel]

maybe

experiment for us

[molten zinc]

probably but I doubt anyone would have that much time on their hand to try that

[wind hazel]

would be absolutely funny if you can't

[molten zinc]

for those who still didn't know, this is what happen when you try to buy a duplicate retrofit item in shop

[stark quiver]

theres no "us"

[vale spindle]

if you retire retrofit sandy (or any retrofit that uses an item), you can buy another one

someone did it like 5 years ago

[whole crypt]

repeated retrofit items all turn into commemorative depot items

you can't have more than one for UR retrofits, it's always been like that

[stark quiver]

i think i havent been playing long enough to notice lol

[whole crypt]

one sec

[plain saffron]

Yes

It's available to buy, when you click on it, then it checks if you either have retro ship or the retro item

[whole crypt]

basically you can only own 1 of either the retrofit item or the ship at any time

if you have the ship or the item then you can't buy more from the shop, if event reruns you just get a trophy item

[strange sphinx]

should I save rainbow bulin for new UR right?

[whole crypt]

like this shit

(yes sandy and spoot retrofit events reran twice on JP)

[stark quiver]

nnt the dinosaur man

[molten zinc]

and ofc they cut off the anniversary coin streak

[wind hazel]

ddg ones dont rerun?

[stark quiver]

they arent UR

[whole crypt]

now that you mention it I just noticed they haven't given one for this year

[wind hazel]

lol so only UR get commemarative one?