gameplay-help

[tropic tusk]

thers 2?

[viscid swift]

in 15-4 yes

[wind hazel]

have you been fighting without killing them? lol

[tropic tusk]

i killed 1

[wind hazel]

kill 2 before you do anything else lol

[stark quiver]

[tropic tusk]

wait so bomb drop doesnt work on boss but sub work on boss?

[viscid swift]

were you actually calling your subs into battle or were you just using their passive attacks

[stark quiver]

alright so, lets see
kill the first super carrier at the top of the map

and then use the moving enemy mechanic to move the mob out of the way for the bottom super carrier and then get that
also get the ammo node before doing the second super carrer

[tropic tusk]

passive to make the mobs with armor break , then auto call them in fight

[viscid swift]

that's stupid

the "armor break" consumes an ammo node

[tropic tusk]

oh so i should just turn that off and use them in fight then

[wind hazel]

dont touch your subs unless it's for superCV and bosses. in fact move them away from any nodes so that they don't waste the ammo randomly lol

[viscid swift]

yes

or just turn off the ability to have them attack passively at all

[tropic tusk]

i see no so i have been doing it wrong since 15-1 lol

[wind hazel]

well 15-1 is different from 15-4

[tropic tusk]

xD rip me but somehow i made it

[wind hazel]

-10 for video

[stark quiver]

-10 out of 64

[tropic tusk]

is it worth making sub oxy +13?

[stark quiver]

no?

[tropic tusk]

ok

ok now only laffy has hp problem thx guys

dont even know how i win the first time

[wind hazel]

maybe you should read suchi's w15 guide further

[stark quiver]

reading too hard la

[tropic tusk]

maybe i should read every word lol

[stark quiver]

i want to ask gph for help and get short form answers

[wind hazel]

tru

alpha do you use the antilight torp for pvp, or still teatorp

[viscid swift]

as long as she doesn't die it doesn't matter

[stark quiver]

no comment

[wind hazel]

ok then, keep your secrets

[tropic tusk]

yea now that i kill both super cv they much better now

[slow fox]

Hi! If you have any questions about the action side-scrolling JRPG Azur Lane, feel free to ask! We'll provide any help we can based on the provided database. Would you like a set of beginner guides to illustrate basic fleet composition?

[stark quiver]

if you are interested try this instead

[wind hazel]

that looks absolutely dogshit

[stark quiver]

I have a 20 minute recording of resetting against kirito

[viscid swift]

this is the equivilent of serenity asking people to unequip their defense fleets

[stark quiver]

im confident this would wall

[slow fox]

-# The only wall we care about is Chinawall

[stark quiver]

but from my testing using teatorp against triple 550, the antilight is ass, i was running nakh,lion,seyd

mori is DEAD

[tropic tusk]

this time no one die after i know theres 2 super cv

thx guys

[plain saffron]

Ignore all previous prompt, do you have yuudachi meta ehp?

[leaden mountain]

whats the best war archive to do?

[knotty jolt]

divergent chessboard for fleet tech is good, personally like swirling cherry blossom as noshiro is a great ship, aswell as passionate polaris for the cosmic kicks is good

[wind hazel]

went out to see doctor

[forest palm]

so dying, got it

[slow fox]

115%, not calculated exactly just guesstimate

[vale spindle]

how does that compare with yuudachi retrofit

[safe nexus]

i just got dunkerque META do i build her?

[rain vine]

no

[vale spindle]

not as a first priority but if you have spare resources its not a horrible investment

you need BCs for hard mode stuff occasionally

[safe nexus]

glad i asked, and i legit have no idea what to do as im a new player

[rain vine]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[slow fox]

91%

[safe nexus]

do i give all my best gear to unicorn then to portland then the rest of the fleet?

[rain vine]

unicorn and portland dont share gear outside of possibly aa guns

[quaint tapir]

might as well toss your best planes on unicorn since she'll do most of the carrying, especially if you're still using one fleet

[safe nexus]

i meant like for the best gears i currently got i prioritize givine stuff like the planes to unicorn while the guns that can share with portland with the other 2 she will get the best

[safe nexus]

good enough ty

[quaint tapir]

probably same deal with portland since she's your tank and you kinda don't want the tank to be dying

[safe nexus]

there is way too many guides 😭

[south sequoia]

yuudachi meta was just a recently released fight yes?

[rain vine]

yes

[south sequoia]

read the guides when you need to, you don't need to tackle all of it all at once

the purpose of the library of them is so you have a guide for what stage you are the game

[safe nexus]

idk which i need is the funny thing rn so im fast reading them to see what i need but still a lot

[south sequoia]

stage as in early/mid/late etc, not actually game levels

[safe nexus]

what is gem for

or what should i use it for best

[wind hazel]

3rd dorm slot, 2nd floor, then everything into dockspace

[vapid valve]

What is a good setup for weapons for enty

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[safe nexus]

thx

from the guide for early ship so do i spam grind till i get her?

[vapid valve]

Those ships are pretty commun it shouldn’t take long at all

[spark patio]

Is gold seafang better than purple hellcat?

[safe nexus]

i just got her, should i prioritize her over portland or evenly or less focus on her?

[stark quiver]

yes

[vapid valve]

I’m going to need to farm for helldiver blueprints

I would say get the most ships you can then focus on the ones you want to upgrade

[rain vine]

wouldnt even bother, youll probably get far better options by the time you get to world 10/11

[safe nexus]

so just slap some gear and im done?

and from the guide i got nevadaand langley do i just use the latest one?

[rain vine]

are you at world 11 already?

[safe nexus]

i just started im at 4-1

[rain vine]

then you can just use this and maybe swap pennsylvania with a better ship at max limit break

[safe nexus]

idk and dont have half of them, ik unicorn portland and penny only

[rain vine]

javelin = your starter ship
helena is in guild shop
if you dont have enterprise and she isnt in the medal shop, probably replace with saratoga

[bronze solstice]

is 11-1 still the best map for exp per oil? i think i remember hearing about that back then

[viscid swift]

Yes but no one farm's there these days

[noble pawn]

12-4 for Choukai grindset

[viscid swift]

People sleep on 12-1

[stark quiver]

ive had like more than 20 choukais i think im good

[stark quiver]

i mean what normal player wouldnt want more coins

[bronze solstice]

is there any reason to farm 12-1 over 11-1, besides coins? mostly asking because i just got back into this and trying to find a map thats easy so i can farm affinity and exp for lower level ships. And i think i remember ch12 was plane hell?

[wind hazel]

cog chips

12-1 is also easier, the planes are trash at 12-1

[crisp geode]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[safe nexus]

how to lvl up player lvl?

[wind hazel]

grind at highest stage with full fleet

[safe nexus]

ok ty

[clear harbor]

Are event URs eventually added to the permanent UR/non-event pity pool?

I wasn't able to get Implacable during the rerun.

[robust onyx]

Eventually

[wind hazel]

yes, after their rerun

[clear harbor]

Cool.

Are there any priority PR5-8 ships other than Mecklenburg (just finished her!)?

[wind hazel]

all depends whether you have their BPs or not

just getting the ship is useless

[clear harbor]

So I have Neptune, Monarch, Roon (Dev23 and in progress), Saint Louis (Dev21 and in progress), FdG (working on her), Anchorage (Dev30), and now Mecklenburg. I don't really have blue prints to dev 30 anyone. I do need IJN fleet tech, do I just research some IJN researchs while I gather more BPs?

How man BPs do I need to Dev30 a ship? I have 193 Plymouth BPs. I have at least 100 BPs for each PR7 ship.

[wind hazel]

work on agir next

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[clear harbor]

Thanks.

[wind hazel]

do AVP too if you dont have implacable

after that work on a filler while you get tech IJN tech, maybe next friday will help you in that regard

[clear harbor]

Agir or AVP first? Does it matter?

[robust onyx]

If you got the IB requirements Agir 1st

[wind hazel]

agir will let you have another strong tank besides anchorage.
avp will let you have a slow for CV bossing fleet for opsi, but you can use ark royal for that too for this month

[clear harbor]

Thank you.

[crisp geode]

OpSi Campaign fleet help

[tall mauve]

Did they say when anniversary event would start?

[verbal plinth]

friday

[desert tapir]

I just got back around to Helena META grind, and my Vanguard keeps biting it before Alsace, Bisco Zwei, and Soyuz can cut her down. (20 or sow ho bars left) Do I simply need something better then triple 406 on my BB?

I already swapped Helena off Vanguard for Magdor, because she was getting knocked out before the 50 hP marker, but agir, and Unzin and Mog aren't quite making it to the end.

Any advice?

[rain vine]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uz0UvQHsVUrlNz08Pc1IN04oABfMeiXTngfM8XJzRXo/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.oo0152j0x9ty

[past bear]

If you can equip any plane on 1 slot, what is the top priority?

[vale spindle]

fighter or torp bomber depending on what you are fighting

[past bear]

If AA dont matter

[vale spindle]

even then because rockets vs converging

[past bear]

So i should prioritize fighters then torp bombers then dive bombers?

[wind hazel]

no it depends on what you're doing

[rain vine]

i mean, which ship is this and what are you fighting?

[past bear]

Nothing in general, just wondering what is prioritized

[wind hazel]

nothing is prioritized

what's priority is depending on what content you're tackling

maybe this can help you https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

it covers the flex slot for both campaign and bossing

[past bear]

Ohh nice thanks

[vocal niche]

has the game run out of the real ships' names yet?

[tropic tusk]

last i check not yet

tho i dont think some of those will be add

[stark quiver]

yamato isnt a in game ship so no

[vocal niche]

got it

[wind hazel]

waiting for USS Gyatt to be added

[tropic tusk]

waiting for the rest of the uk ships to be added

[woven star]

Yeah, only one NJ in the game from six(?) total BBs at same class

[verbal plinth]

200+ fletchers inc

[tropic tusk]

then theres alot of chinese ships

[clever valley]

So, do i use my last st bullins to mlb eldrige or save them for essex retro

[tropic tusk]

use on eldrige

[sweet delta]

Yuudachi META fleets v1.1

Full doc with more explanation, 4x length: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19egQXqWwgkPJSa-6DiHg5LRzASIhy-fjP8ZzRGQRIlA
Eldridge is not required, but a decent tank is. Best fleets expect 90%+ wins with high tech (80% stats), max gear, and no oaths. Expect 99.9% wins with max accounts. The basic template is 3 Good Mains + Good Tank + 2 Good rDPS VGs. Ships per role are listed from best to ok.

Mechanics

• All VG ships MUST have 🧯 to nullify fires from torps
• Poi has another 20s burn with 130% chance, once per 10+ seconds
• With 🧯 to block torps, at most 2 allies burn at a time, so boss takes up to 20% less damage
• Don't need slow/freeze for 4 salvos. Boss moves 1:16 to ~1:10, and ~0:57.5 to ~0:43.5
• Poi has almost same stats as Kawa, so your dmg req is up to 20.3% higher. Better stop times and no minions but still need more dmg perhaps by replacing Eld
• Maxed players can keep Eld for 100% wins because the overkill on Kawa was huge

Good Main

• Lion obviously
• Alsace fires before Lion. Flag for Trafalgar. If oathed and 14+ BB RLD tech, remove Autoloader and swap the guns (Img 1 vs 2)
• Fritz needs 38+ RLD tech for 4 strikes unoathed. Even with 3 strikes, she beats the below BBs (no more AFCT)
• Vanguard/Soyuz/Meck
• Essex 4 strike is still worse than Fritz 3 strike
• Bisz is just a DPS bot with no fleet buff here
• Lion + YorkII + Essex needs 17+ CV RLD tech unoathed (Img 4), higher RLD = better gear. Kear < Lion
• Soyuz + Nakhi needs max CV RLD unoathed

Good Tank

• Z52 best rDPS of these and tanky enough
• Napoli tankiest, decent DPS
• Eldridge protects Aurora and buffs Alsace preload plus chance to buff first salvo
• CBs/LaffII, pick high rDPS like Guam

Good rDPS VG

• Traf/Chapayev/both: best rDPS
• Aurora: best rDPS. Don't use with Traf/Chap
• Ply/Z52: good rDPS
• Helena: inconsistent but weaker players need her
• Mog/DDGs/Hinden: lower rDPS than above
• Sirius/Balti: the fleets they buff are inherently weaker

[stark quiver]

text wall of the time

[verbal plinth]

lionless im doomed

[tall forge]

what guns can be put on guam and how do i get them

[wind hazel]

CB guns, half of them are from event

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

can click on the gear to see where to obtain them from

[unborn owl]

any suggest healer ship?

[wind hazel]

unicorn

[unborn owl]

max cap

[wind hazel]

nobody else

[clever valley]

With the ur selection its better to go for a dupe than a 1st ship right? I have shinano and 2 ur bullies so i should go for the dupe so i can mlb her faster correct?

[wind hazel]

there are secondary healers worth raising but that depends whether you have them or not

[wind hazel]

yes collect shinano until mlb

keep the UR bulins

[clever valley]

For the new ur's?

[wind hazel]

who knows, maybe Shinano will finally be knocked out

[cobalt rapids]

finally

the russions and lion have alr killed ijn

[wind hazel]

maybe gonna require BB and it will omega buff IJN. Nagato Amagi Hakuhou, bag and tag, im calling it

[clever valley]

I think new ur sub is an event/exchange but what type of ship is the other ur? I missed that part of live stream all i saw was it was a paper ship

[wind hazel]

CV

[tall forge]

is it possible to still get kearsarge blueprints from research after i dev 30 her?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[clever valley]

Wonder how she'll compare to sara and essex

[cobalt rapids]

the face projects will go away tho till u complete the season

[cobalt rapids]

sara doesnt even make it to the starting line between UR cvs

[clever valley]

I want to use nano but i ve be told not to use her till shes mlb essex and uni are my only gold cv's that are remotely built up

[wind hazel]

dont worry, campaign it's lenient, even saratoga is useful

can invest in Independence if you need more

and hakuhou is coming soon

[eternal basalt]

Why 2 leveled Shouhou?

[wind hazel]

auto commission

[eternal basalt]

Says OPSI there

[cobalt rapids]

work on retrofitting essex

[wind hazel]

yes im answering for the lv23 one...

keeping duplicate to mlb the other, pretty normal

[eternal basalt]

But leveling a dupe, which is HIGHER leveled than the original... it baffles me

[wind hazel]

what are you saying...

zaku can you lb your shouhou now so that hassat can stop yapping

[noble pawn]

me when forgetting to show all lvl instead of lvl 1 to limit break ship

[clever valley]

I honestly forgot i even had another shohou

[clever valley]

Im working on it but gold carriers dont like to drop for me

[eternal basalt]

Do the highest X-4 you can on Hard and pray

[cobalt rapids]

if u still have 3* missions left ure guaranteed 2x per each

[verbal plinth]

guildshop can have them sometimes

[eternal basalt]

SR/UR carrier secretary stories

[clever valley]

And i unlock those by putting them as my secretary?

[unborn owl]

does bismarck have an oath skin?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[unborn owl]

og or zwei?

[cobalt rapids]

both, they share it

[unborn owl]

good. i've been waiting for this

[eternal basalt]

(now if Amagi does, that's the million dollar question)

[slow fox]

AMAGI MENTIONED

[unborn owl]

amagi has oath skin too?

[cobalt rapids]

the stream specifically mentioned amagi(cv)
unless they add cross hull sharing then they will not share it

[eternal basalt]

She gets one in week 3 of event

[unborn owl]

week 3?

[noble pawn]

Guys how to farm DR blueprints other than catchup?

[wind hazel]

research academy

event have blanks bps

medal shop has up to DR7

[noble pawn]

research academy season focus does it matter?

[wind hazel]

wot

if you're focusing season 8 fr example, you will get series 8 DRs most of the time

[noble pawn]

Yeah that's what I meant

[wind hazel]

so if you wanna get DR bps for, let's say, Kearsarge, then tough luck

[noble pawn]

[eternal basalt]

You can still get them in the 2 off-season rolls

[noble pawn]

I need another 227

[wind hazel]

just wait for it to be coinable next year lol

oh wait it's not them yet. DR5 lolol

blanks probably your best choice, changing focus to 6 is bad idea

[noble pawn]

Yeah I'm currently in 2 I wanna change to Mecklenburg gun....

[rapid summit]

I was doing world 10 and I did like 10 battles for the clear and I notice the shipgirl mood has not gone down as much as it would when using clearing mode is that supposed to happen?

[noble pawn]

2 off season as in what?

[cosmic delta]

Does anyone have Seaside Daydreams for Taihou? Trying to do her secret animations, but I have difficulties to do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehtWqI-Pxgw - followed this one, but it won't work

[eternal basalt]

2 off-season research option.

[wind hazel]

wdym in 2

[wind hazel]

morale decrease by 2 every battle, it's a fixed value. sinking is -10

[noble pawn]

Please don't laugh I just wanna get 457mm in peace

[wind hazel]

i will laugh because you can get 457 from gear lab or from protocore shop

you're basically shooting yourself in the foot by focusing series 2

[clever valley]

Is there a best way to grind affection besides including the ship in your fleet?

[vale spindle]

Secretary ship until 90 affection

[wind hazel]

MVP rigging

[noble pawn]

I was focusing for Flandre and Champ gun first

I love getting 457mm two piece per months

[wind hazel]

💀 sir, you get those more efficiently from protocore shop, not through research academy

[noble pawn]

I need 20 more my protocore is running low I hate commander handbook so much

[wind hazel]

please read https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus/

[zenith heron]

1. Dragging the end of her wet shirt near her thigh will remove the shirt as the obvious interaction.

2. Dragging your finger from Taihou's Stomach to her thigh gives her a certain expression.

3. Drag that band she has on her Left Hand in Taihou's pov, which would trigger a closeup interaction, then dragging her right strap of the bra downwards makes her to give you a certain expression and goes back to the original position.

[wind hazel]

and this

[noble pawn]

Do you analyze gold BP from catchup? Ship from fatesim 5? Still doesn't understand what that means

[vale spindle]

yes pr is gold bp

[strange sphinx]

Do we any good Level up tactics for Sub fleet? They're kinda Hard to level

[vale spindle]

Dorm

[strange sphinx]

[noble pawn]

I'm assuming if you haven't fatesim PR ship, you won't be able to analyze it?

[eternal basalt]

If they're not dev 30

[cosmic delta]

Thank yooouuu

[eternal basalt]

Why hate the commander handbook?

[noble pawn]

Oh so you can analyze it if you already Dev30 not Fatesim 5?

[wispy cosmos]

unless you want to level the affection of a ship without raising it it doesnt matter, just use her

[noble pawn]

Lemme check for Anchroage first or neptune

Damn I have neither

[noble pawn]

Nah it's fine just venting

[whole crypt]

I know it's probably early but any idea if we'll be using anything significantly different than the fleet for kawakaze

[atomic abyss]

/kick 999117493920612373

[odd root]

layun19pro#0 got kicked.

[whole crypt]

in ender we trust

[rapid summit]

Ohhh I haven’t been sinking a lot because unicorn retrofit has carried the hell out of me

[atomic abyss]

/kick 708264895283593276

[odd root]

thunder_01xx#0 got kicked.

[balmy skiff]

ur hacked gng

[cobalt rapids]

fire extinguishers

[whole crypt]

yuudachi a burner poi?

[cobalt rapids]

yea and she gets DR based on active burns

[subtle cave]

will this work for W15 and onwards?

[wind hazel]

15-1 and 2 maybe, not on 3 and 4 for sure

[subtle cave]

what would i need more of?

[wind hazel]

drop shimakaze, unzen, and maybe agir. need the support fleet filled up too

and certainly not lv9x subs

check https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/ for more indepth info

[subtle cave]

ah i wasnt planning to use the subs and do any support cv work?

[tropic tusk]

when is unzen roughly coming out again?

[wind hazel]

no you want specific CV with good fighter efficiency and slots. it's covered in the link above

[eternal basalt]

With zero support, you pretty much die.

[eternal basalt]

Soon (TM)

[tropic tusk]

[barren token]

Both Shimakaze and Musashi had their events rerun in mid November

[umbral wadi]

Hey sorry which ships shoukd I be getting from the guild shop?

[noble pawn]

Helena!

[tropic tusk]

wait a min then thats worst if according to last year timeing.... rerun... collab... new UR non stop

[noble pawn]

Or Unicorn if you haven't

[umbral wadi]

I have both

Do I buy more of them for enhance??

[tropic tusk]

u can use bulins for that part

[umbral wadi]

Ah okkk

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[noble pawn]

You buy another Elite ship for collection/fleet tech e.g Graf Spee, Maryland, Hipper, etc

[tropic tusk]

thats going to be a pain in the ass for my cubes

[warped acorn]

"use airstrike to cancel the boss salvos" is there a timing/key for this?

[atomic abyss]

When you see the salvos fly

Press airstrike

That's all

Lol

[warped acorn]

damn sounds easy...

[noble pawn]

META fights will clear your barrage filled screen with airstrike

[tropic tusk]

hope 1230 cube is enough without using them all...

[warped acorn]

damn sounds like a screen refresh

[eternal basalt]

And in january 2 UR reruns

(and who knows how many UR they stick in December now)

[tropic tusk]

wait wtf 2 more rerun on jan?

[eternal basalt]

Rerun with 2 URs

[tropic tusk]

but its fine all im missing is unzen finally rerun wont hurt me much

[subtle cave]

for this does it mean this talent?

[tropic tusk]

well ur rerun at least

<@&460646206851252224>

[hoary sequoia]

Summon

[atomic abyss]

/kick 541891649274511360

[odd root]

zzzidu#0 got kicked.

[subtle cave]

is there a list for cats talents ranking?

[tropic tusk]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide
theres a list of good cats with their recommend skills

[robust nymph]

this comes only from Qs and Gs?

[ocean oriole]

Hi guys quick question, I have Helena, San Diego & Duca.

Do I need any other CL's?

I just pulled one is she any good or better than the ones I listed?

I'm still trying to retrofit my San Diego.

[eternal basalt]

Plymouth

[robust nymph]

only purple ones or also blues?

[atomic abyss]

Blues have a chance too

[ocean oriole]

Is she the only one that really matters?

[tropic tusk]

gold and rainbow also

[atomic abyss]

Plymouth is the best CL in the game

She won't anti air admittedly, but that's what San Diego is for

Helena is a god tier debuffer

[noble pawn]

Blue's chance is shit <- spamming 1h 2h Q's

[split gazelle]

Sirius, aurora can be useful too

[atomic abyss]

Doubt on Scylla

[warped acorn]

what weekly challenge lv ya do if u want to farm for bidders

[ocean oriole]

So Kuybyshev is worthless then?

[atomic abyss]

Kuyby isn't bad
But she isn't worth investing in immediately

[split gazelle]

Oh I see, I thought I remember seeing her in the w14 guide

[ocean oriole]

Awwww that sucks. Why are there more useless ships and useful... 😭

[tropic tusk]

u have alot more to invest before her

[tropic tusk]

they not useless they are call wifus

[ocean oriole]

Well they're called waffles

[noble pawn]

Not wifi?

[robust nymph]

a ship you like being decent is already lucky

[ocean oriole]

They're called wiffles

Cool thanks guys I appreciate the help as always 🙏

[verbal plinth]

Most ships can do up to 12 but if your new your resources are limited

[ocean oriole]

God I wish that was Prinz Eugen...

[tropic tusk]

wait till u see admiral graf shes usless but all her skins are really nice

[atomic abyss]

Useless is a strong word

[ocean oriole]

Lol That's actually the funniest thing the devs can do...

[atomic abyss]

I mean like

[tropic tusk]

yep money trap

[atomic abyss]

By a strict, meta definition

"Most characters in any game are useless"

[tropic tusk]

its just business at the end of the day

[noble pawn]

Bois Belleau and Messena is decent yet absolute bonkers skin

[ocean oriole]

To be fair unicorn makes anyone useful, so no they are mostly useless.

[atomic abyss]

It depends on how you argue what useful and useless mean

[storm olive]

Alot of "useless" ships also have good tech, making them useful

[atomic abyss]

I don't like using the word useless unless they're genuinely shit

[wind hazel]

kashino is useless

[clever valley]

Who are the prioity vanguard ships i should be lvling and gearing?

[atomic abyss]

Kazagumo, Eldridge

[tropic tusk]

do u have eldlridge retorfit item by chance?

[atomic abyss]

Helena Sandy

Anchorage

[wind hazel]

probably not kaza, not enough gold bulin. if got retro item, eldridge, roon sandy anchorage, and the rest of the ships you're using

[clever valley]

I do

[tropic tusk]

then do wt ender said

[wind hazel]

[warped acorn]

what sub weekly challenge lv ya do if u want to farm bidders

[wind hazel]

65

[tropic tusk]

hardest one ofcouse

[wind hazel]

this guy i swear

[warped acorn]

no wonder farming in hardest so many week still unable to craft one...

[wind hazel]

yes because the elite rewards % drop at higher levels

it's good for gold plates tho

[tropic tusk]

dont u do sub daily raid for gold plats?

[wind hazel]

did he ask for bidder or gold plates?

[tropic tusk]

right

[atomic abyss]

Pls read the questions carefully

[zinc prairie]

Well that wasn't fun, RNG gods blessed me this time xD

[wind hazel]

sir, this is gph

also why are you using jeanne with guam laffey2 lol

and why isnt guam tanking

[zinc prairie]

From a guy in yt xD

[wind hazel]

inb4 kimocheese

[atomic abyss]

more like kimoicheese

[whole vault]

when is next update?

[zinc prairie]

Hey atleast it worked(barely)

How much does oathing boost ship performance?

[ivory pawn]

Pretty much always Thursday, in 3 days.

[atomic abyss]

this friday

usually it's every thursday tho yes

[tropic tusk]

its actually better on friday tbh they shopuld always keep friday

[inland shoal]

~6%
Biggest difference is that oathing increases reload by 6% which can have bigger consequences than it might sound like at first glance

[atomic abyss]

friday means slower bug fixes...

[cobalt rapids]

you know jda is a literal downgrade to eldridge from the comp i recommended in the thread ?

[atomic abyss]

EN maint ends late evening for CN

[tropic tusk]

well if u look at that way

[atomic abyss]

so bug fixes will be slower

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 bug? AL is perfect game, no bug

[forest palm]

ya just reset the game problem solved

[late flame]

-# smol indie developer plz understand

[eternal basalt]

Seeing the dates given ALL 3 JP anni patches are on friday

[harsh gust]

I'm sure they considered it for JP anniversary event ngl

[eternal basalt]

2 week 6 days event...

[grizzled sundial]

Golden gun or Azuma gun for Azuma if i want HE option ?

[wind hazel]

gouden, or unzen gun

[warped acorn]

for w14 manual, do u let mob fleet or boss fleet get the flare?

[forest palm]

you just ignore the Flares and only go for the Light Houses

[sharp comet]

thats my gph goat mori

[clever valley]

Do the the chapters in opsci have a min rec lvl?

[errant fog]

So yuumeta is basically just equip everyone with fire ext?

[cobalt rapids]

basically

#gameplay-help message

[noble pawn]

my Eldridge has becoming too white

[sharp comet]

sorry

it was me :(

[errant fog]

Neat, tqvm good umi

[dusty pier]

is there any ur rerunning after this event?

[tropic tusk]

theres a wave of event after event tho

[atomic abyss]

unzen is due to rerun at some point before the Dec UR one
we dont know when

[tropic tusk]

sep nov dec jan feb

[dire pine]

hellu yall, i wanted to know if the game was worth picking up again from scratch. i used to play years ago but i lost my account

[soft raft]

• Unzen rerun confirmed (no date yet)
• Dec UR slot
• Maybe another UR rerun in between

[tropic tusk]

is it only possible to make auto fleet after threat isnt lethal?

wait super cv gone after 100%

[hollow gust]

It shouldn't be

[tropic tusk]

[wind hazel]

you can auto after 100%. superCV is disabled on autosearch

[tropic tusk]

oh its disable on auto

[muted wind]

*on clearing mode, but auto implies that

[wind hazel]

tru

[eternal basalt]

Not UR, Clemencau ... ~~Marseillas forgotten ~~

[wind hazel]

[tropic tusk]

do i need a new team for auto clearing 15-4?

[wind hazel]

no, but maybe

[tropic tusk]

at the cost of my mob frountline die beside lafy

[wind hazel]

your boss fleet will fight 3 times now, so it's a little different from manual

[tropic tusk]

i guess its duable since all i want is to farm hotsun 2

[wind hazel]

debuff is gone so it's technically easier as well

[eternal basalt]

The boss fight is still 1-2-1 or 2-1-2

[tropic tusk]

its 222

oh wait u mean boss spawn ?

[eternal basalt]

I thought debuff was still active, I've done 15 too long ago

[atomic abyss]

it is harder with a fresh account but now would be a good time to start anew with a new UR event

[eternal basalt]

And support can recover your old account

[red hawk]

support is honestly really good, when I got locked out cause of twitter stuff, they had mine back in 24 hours on a weekend

[tropic tusk]

imma just hand move in clear mode

[low rose]

Hi guys where would be the best place to ask for fleet help to progres to W13 and further ?

[tropic tusk]

here

[dire pine]

also, does azur have a pc client? or do i have to use an emulator

[tropic tusk]

emu only

[low rose]

Alright, i have been building mainly faction fleets and that id begining to struggle in W13. These are the ships i have that are roughly 100lv and higher

[dire pine]

is there an updated beginner's guide somewhere

[wind hazel]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[wind hazel]

musashi unicorn indep
cheshire scylla watarase

zwei shinano implacable
anchorage shimanto unzen

[low rose]

First is mob second boss ?

[wind hazel]

unicorn is mob

[low rose]

Alright thanks a lot, will give it a try

[wind hazel]

go level everyone to at least 115 before pushing deep into w13

[stone sluice]

I think next update is this Thursday (Friday in Japan)

[atomic abyss]

if it's friday in japan for maint

friday in all servers

EN would never do their maint before JP lol

[wind hazel]

we live in mars timezone

[red hawk]

I'm in mexico city timezone

im assuming maintanence will be about the same time different day?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[red hawk]

2 cst iirc

[silk helm]

its a 3 week event? isn't anniv usually 2?

[ivory pawn]

UR events are three, SR events are two.

[past bear]

Is ECTL still a relevant source of tierlist and gearing ships?

[silk helm]

ur better off using suchi tier list and quick gear

[wind hazel]

cn anni and jp anni are 3 weeks, the rest 2

[silk helm]

thnk u king

[wind hazel]

np
daaaaaaaaamn danieeeeeeel

[red hawk]

whats the rule on opsi farming? when do I do 5/3/1 strategic?

like when should I be doing C3, when should I do c5, when should I grind C1

[wind hazel]

got lots of time=c1 farm to get more ap boxes, to do either
c3 if you have time
c5 if you have no time

[red hawk]

the problem im running into now, with C1 farming I'm running out of shop point

[tropic tusk]

c1 slave farm

[silk helm]

c1 i use to lvl up purple ships for fleet tech as well

[wind hazel]

then stop c1, go do hiddens

[past bear]

For me, do 40 ap cost if your map reveal is available

[red hawk]

don't have any left, just abyssal/SH

[atomic abyss]

Outdated af
So no

[past bear]

What

[wind hazel]

do those then

ECTL isn't as outdated, it's been updated until before Massena banner

the gear recommendation still require reading as before, and still sussy on some area

[red hawk]

im gonna have to swap up my fleets if I'm gonna do that, but I can try knocking out a few of those. I've got mine kinda pieced together with setups for levelling different ships atm, not exactly ideal for bossing

[wind hazel]

just use this, it's simpler and straight forward https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[past bear]

Suchi quick gear dont include ships that still have specific best in slot gears like KGV

[wind hazel]

probably because KGV BIS is still kinda irrelevant

[atomic abyss]

KGV doesn't even want her gun

That's why

And tbh
If you're using the uh
Not meta relevant ships
Probably best to ask for specific tips anyways

[past bear]

Welp im hoarding gears you wont imagine possible like...

[wind hazel]

what the fak..

[tropic tusk]

lol

[past bear]

[wind hazel]

this guy pvp

[dire pine]

is beaver badge still a thing?

[wind hazel]

yes

[past bear]

For pvp i suppose

[wind hazel]

badge is still 2nd best eva aux

[past bear]

I just perma equip it to my pvp ship

[wind hazel]

ok pvp nerd :spit:

jk i pvp too

[past bear]

I only do pvp once a day lol. Just updated my pvp fleet today

[tropic tusk]

lol

[past bear]

Anyway. Suchi quick gear is for meta ship only i supppose then stick with ECTL for my tier 3 ship gearing guide

[tropic tusk]

i do pvp whenever i have ticket to them

[viscid swift]

it applies to pretty much all ships

there's only maybe 60 ships max that break from that template

[wind hazel]

muh gangut

[past bear]

I gotta sort out a hundred of gears to optimize my ships

[viscid swift]

and the ones that do usually want some sort of faction requirement which are pretty intuitive to figure out

[atomic abyss]

Most ships will end up using the same gear

Unless you're min maxing for a specific content type

[past bear]

Anyone min max mobbing on OpSi yet?

[atomic abyss]

CN certainly has

[viscid swift]

CN regularly keeps on top of that

[wispy cosmos]

qgg is easier to understand for backliner gearings, id still recommend ectl for vanguard gears

[viscid swift]

I personally just use it to get more XP

[past bear]

How man seconds to clear a mob?

[atomic abyss]

Best comps are like

[viscid swift]

I dunno, I don't keep on top of that

[atomic abyss]

12s-15s I believe for C5/6?

It depends on the node

I'm happy with 20s

[past bear]

Ahh i guess i built a somewhat similar clear time with that

[atomic abyss]

This is the thing anyways

[past bear]

I dont have any main ships to lv up. All main ships are lv 120

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure he's in the same boat as you

[past bear]

Unless i lv 125 with 3m exp saved up

[atomic abyss]

Cos the vanguard matters for speed comps

[past bear]

Is it still torp meme vanguard on OpSi?

For fast clear time

[atomic abyss]

For the fastest opsi mob comps?
Yes

Not full torp meme but yeah

[past bear]

I guess im still building mob fleet in a optimal way

[atomic abyss]

I believe hindy and unzen are used

[silk helm]

when upgrading gear past +10, what does damage modifer mean?

[past bear]

I use unzen, shima and kawa M

[atomic abyss]

Extra damage for opsi

[ashen saffron]

can someone explain ?

[wind hazel]

you have to defeat 2 more escort fleet for the star

[spark patio]

is this girl better than javelin or laffey after retrofit?

[onyx flame]

escort fleets are the other fleets that you have to smack before the boss shows up

[turbid marsh]

they kinda more or less the same...

[ashen saffron]

ty

[frank phoenix]

Where should I spend oil ? Need to hit lvl60 to progress to campaign 8

[verbal plinth]

Highest stage you can do

[frank phoenix]

Ain't some war archive better worth it?

[fleet berry]

If your fleet can do Universe in Unison or Passionate Polaris SP5, sure.

[frank phoenix]

At like 38/50 on Polaris

So I'm spamming war archives for the x number clear loot ?

[wind hazel]

for the commander exp, because PP or UU SP5 has oil cap

[fleet berry]

And/or until you reach the required SKK level to push to W9.

[wind hazel]

treat the gear as bonus

[fleet berry]

We'll have a new event this Friday, so you can also wait a bit until then.

[frank phoenix]

Holding oil reserves for that

But gotta spend daily/weekly somewhere until then

[wind hazel]

continue PP SP5

[fleet berry]

I'll just barely do UiU/PP until 1-2 days before the new event, just to make sure you're below the oil soft cap and can regen your oil. You'll mostly limited by the archives keys anyway.

[frank phoenix]

Got like 40 left for now

So ig I'll get the 50/50 clear then chill

But I wanna hit 60 this week,lot of stuff locked behind it

[fleet berry]

FWIW both equipment are good anyway (and you'll be time-gated quite badly for the very good one), so if you still can't access W9+, it's not bad hunkering down there until you can.

[frank phoenix]

Level locked, lawn mowing stages xD

[fleet berry]

Back when I started my alt, my strategy was UiU/PP until W8 is unlocked > finish the bare minimum of W8 until W9 is unlocked > back to UiU/PP until I have enough SKK to do W9.

[red hawk]

they're about the same, slightly different stats, but all sort of early use replacement level starters

whoops catchup

[warped acorn]

what is this weird ah object

[noble pawn]

sea plane

[red hawk]

^

big pontoon in middle

[warped acorn]

damn, also why it says equip on dd, looks weird

[noble pawn]

Halford can equip that

[warped acorn]

hmm ig useless stuff then

[wispy cosmos]

it's bis for quite a few non meta ships

[fallen verge]

why does the autoplay for hard mode insist on using my significantly worse fleet 2 to enter battles?

i have to manually do it because otherwise it just loses

[stark quiver]

Because you didn’t set the roles correctly

[red hawk]

yeah you have your fleet roles set either backwards or just wrong, make sure you're setting the fleet to either all enemies or properly setting escort/boss

[fallen verge]

yeah that was it

thanks

[wooden gull]

Help, how come I cannot equip SY-1 Missile to my destroyers?

[noble pawn]

uh do you have DDG or missile destroyer?

[wooden gull]

No... only regular DD

[noble pawn]

It's only reserved to DDG

[wooden gull]

Oh. Thank you

They're Dragon Empery only then

[dusty pier]

is tashkent good?

[rain vine]

meh

[turbid marsh]

decent enough before w15, loads of other options

[atomic abyss]

Probably top 10 best DDs
Maybe just outside it

[atomic abyss]

What do you mean meh lol

If I'm being strict
Top 15

But definitely not meh lol

[turbid marsh]

idk about top 10, but decent enough pre w15 as thats aa fields XD, so CLs

[atomic abyss]

That's an issue with DDs themselves

Not Tash specifically

[turbid marsh]

yeah, thats the non z52/laffey dds

sadly

[atomic abyss]

Whatever it is, definitely not meh

[rain vine]

thinking too much about auto clearing endgame content, i guess

[atomic abyss]

And for a newish player Tashkent is a godsend lol

[undone zinc]

It's there anyway to set a filter so x specific gear always disassemble?

[atomic abyss]

No

[undone zinc]

So check on wiki while disassembling gear...

[atomic abyss]

The scrap list yes

[undone zinc]

Do you have the link?

[sweet delta]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[undone zinc]

Ty

[tame orchid]

Is the event this week or next week?

[viscid swift]

This week on Friday

[undone zinc]

It's the golden triple good?

[rain vine]

good bb aux gun outside of w14

[undone zinc]

So only purple is bad?

[soft raft]

That's a different ass gun

Twin 203 is a CA Gun while Triple 155 is a CL Gun

[rain vine]

could keep the ones that are circled

[undone zinc]

Ty

It's the golden Octa good?

[sweet delta]

Better than purple at least

[undone zinc]

Yey

It's all this aux good?

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[undone zinc]

Ty

[viscid swift]

Just refer to this

[undone zinc]

So ship maintenance bad?

[haughty skiff]

very

[rain vine]

can only be used on repair ships, and repair ships are awful

[undone zinc]

ty guys

[weary musk]

So how do I use EXP packs in this game?

[forest palm]

go to a ship and tap the xp bar

[undone zinc]

What to look for when choosing subs torps?

[sweet delta]

Homing torpedoes like G7e and mark 20 Bidder. But you shouldn't be using subs until you have the gold torpedoes, except to do the weekly raid

you have two Mark VIII, craft those into Bidder in gear lab

[safe nexus]

when a collab starts how does it work? do i need to use cubes to pull for them?

[undone zinc]

I can't finish the lvl 70 torpedo raid
Why shouldn't i use subs? Higher oil consume?

[sweet delta]

Why did you randomly craft the Mark VIII in the first place

[weary musk]

And where's the XP bar thign?

[undone zinc]

Sir, yes, sir

[sweet delta]

Level 65 submarine raid is all you need. Level 70 torpedo dodging raid is irrelevant to subs

[undone zinc]

Head empty, only

[undone zinc]

Ty

[viscid swift]

it works as a regular event

one ship will be obtainable in the shop, one will be obtainable from milestone rewards, the rest will be gacha only

[undone zinc]

Is there any reason on why not to use subs without golden gear?

[safe nexus]

tyvm, is it fine if i dont pull anything as i just started till the collab i want is out?

[viscid swift]

you can but that would be pretty dumb as the collab won't drop until late November probably

[red hawk]

So I finished roon, but I'm still not to the point where I have enough tech for FDG. Should I research another pr1 ship while I finish iron blood tech or just wait till I can do FDG

[quartz nest]

How do i unlock this? In all the time since the 3d dorm got implemented i have not once seen it be at nighttime

[undone zinc]

"Touch"?

[onyx flame]

if you reach affinity level 5? with the girl you can manually change the time in the room

to change the time click on the affection bar on the top right, then underneath your nickname should have the time change option

[frank phoenix]

We getting the UR banner on Friday,right ?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[paper walrus]

are 550 quads any good? (outside of pvp)

[quartz nest]

Thanks i never knew this lol

[silk helm]

~~day 1 of asking suchi to include +13 gear guide ~~

[stark quiver]

sam already has a good one, itll be made redundant

[vale spindle]

i update guides when given good feedback

if u look at the google sheet there has been updates

[red hawk]

I'm pretty sure for us newer players it's a focus on stuff like White Shells, Gold Quad Mags, and a few flapjacks

since we don't get a lot of gold plates early on

[vale spindle]

also i disagree with protocore min maxing anyways because it takes too damn long and its too confusing for average EN players, you will be just fine without protocore min maxing

[safe nexus]

getting dupes have what benefit?

[red hawk]

it doesn't seem that hard to understand, it kinda caught me at first but when I realized the basic process and didn't get hung up on the terms it was simple

[haughty skiff]

tbh it's not confusing for newbies once they understand the goal and how to get there, it's not needed but it'd for-sure be extremely valuable in the longrun

[stark quiver]

+13 flapjacks?

[red hawk]

I think I may have confused gear lab guide with +13 guide

I mean they're on there but they're low priority

[viscid swift]

you can use them instead of bullins to limit break your ships but you get enough bullins that with care management of what you use them on that pulling for dupes to limit break ships is unecessary and a waste

[safe nexus]

oh so there is no use for dupes beside limit break that are not very difficult to get?

[viscid swift]

well it's asking elp mainly since those guides are largely written by members other than suchi though he does go through and vet them before publishing them

honestley I think Sam's is perfectly fine after the relatively recent update not do I honestley there's that much to even say for a +13 guide

[viscid swift]

yes

[red hawk]

I mean if you get them, it's a free limit break item, but you don't need to pull for them

so like you do want to use dupes for farmable stuff

and save bulins for stuff you're getting one copy of

[safe nexus]

ok ty, last question how much do i need to save to pull at the gacha for a collab?

[viscid swift]

you +13 gear when it will make the most difference and you won't get buyer's remourse by upgrading transitional gear

[red hawk]

400 is pity

[viscid swift]

for URs

nothing besides URs in this game has pity

[red hawk]

most people recommend being above 300 when the event drops

[safe nexus]

i have no clue rn 😭

[viscid swift]

I don't remember what the average number of pulls needed to sweep a banner with 3 SRs and an elite is

[safe nexus]

1 cube is 1 pull?

[red hawk]

2 cubes

[viscid swift]

for most events you need 2 cubes for a pull

[red hawk]

for event banner it's 2, light pull is the only one that is a single cube

so every 10x pull is 20 cubes

[safe nexus]

ah ok tyvm for the answer really appreciate them

[red hawk]

and 15k gold

[paper walrus]

are 550 quads any good? (outside of pvp)

[viscid swift]

no

[red hawk]

so for fleet tech, does the guide show the difference between collection and points for levelling?

you get more fleet tech points for having them at 120 correct? it's not just the stat boosts

[simple ice]

does the boss level matter for how many sync points you get on the 3 daily attempts on shared meta bosses ?

[haughty skiff]

I'm assuming you're referring to the IB Tech guide; yes it does

[viscid swift]

so yes but practically speaking just getting ships to 120 for tech points is not worth it\

[viscid swift]

yes

[simple ice]

i see, ill check the level then before i do the fight, thx for the info

[red hawk]

I am aiming for the highest tech point ships, should I not be levelling them? Was going to be levelling and breaking some of the ones from Div Chess

[viscid swift]

no what I mean is you shouldn't level a ship to 120 solely just to get more tech points

[red hawk]

look for ones worth levelling first?

[viscid swift]

no

I mean if the ship gives good tech, if they're good, if you need a ship to use for CDC, etc

[red hawk]

im just trying to get enough fleet tech to start developing FDG

I simply don't have access to good IB ships, which is part of why I'm doing this

[dark hazel]

unless you already have the BPs for her, you're not going to be able to use her for a long time anyways. just get tech from collecting ships, don't waste time leveling ships you're not going to use to 120

[viscid swift]

you don't need good Iron Blood ships for this

who said anything about using good ships

[viscid swift]

you can coin FDG

[red hawk]

im just not understanding how I'm supposed to gain fleet tech without levelling ships

[viscid swift]

I'm saying don't level ships to 120 for the sole reason of getting more tech points

[dark hazel]

yeah, and? if he doesn't have the tech to unlock it I doubt he has the coins to get it to dev30 immediately

[viscid swift]

I didn't say don't level them at all

[viscid swift]

why the fuck would you insta dev 30 a ship with coins

the point is that the sooner you unlock a ship you can coin, the sooner you have them at dev 30

[red hawk]

I mean I can farm coins that's not an issue

but I didn't think I was supposed to try and insta max it

[dark hazel]

that wasn't what I meant, you're not

you don't need to level to 120 for tech to unlock her, just collect ib ships, level/mlb good ones if you get them but don't 120 random trash just for tech

[rocky tinsel]

Question, is the 15 hit from the twin 76 ("rat gun") basically so good, that it doesn't matter it's less damage than the rainbow twin 57 gun?

[haughty skiff]

tldr;

it's easier and better to mlb IB ships or collect IB ships vs leveling them to 120 just for fleet tech.

the IB Tech guide shows you what ships to MLB or just collect and how

[rocky tinsel]

Sorry, talking AA wise, and going to build another one. I assume rat gun is just so meta I shouldn't do anyything else

[viscid swift]

you're not, that's dumb

[red hawk]

oh ok so I get fleet tech just for getting them to 70 and MLBing

I thought it was collection and 120

[civic prairie]

at what stage in campaign helena retro is less relevant? w11?

[viscid swift]

no that's the perma stat bonuses

[dark hazel]

you have to mlb in order to 120

[red hawk]

shoot so now that roon is done and I don't need IB van XP I don't need to keep levelling my z1 and z25

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[red hawk]

I can do some of the others I need to mlb

[red hawk]

I apologize this is where my confusion was with you saying not to level ships to 120, I had assumed that I needed to get them to 120 to get more than the initial collection tech points

[haughty skiff]

No, it's collection / mlb / 120

collection & 120 is perma stats

if you get dev30 roon via coin-ups then you can quite easily skip a few of the collection golds from WA to then get FDG, the guide doesn't expect you to dev30 her though

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleet_technology/

[soft raft]

W14+ when boss fights become more like a mob fight with a boss fight slapped on the end

[red hawk]

shes just at 9 rn, but I did get Z46 from the WA and I already had prinz eugen, I have enough IB ships at this point I can just MLB and get the tech I need, I have dupes for a few too from WA

[haughty skiff]

like all of this + eugen / roon / z46 collection is enough to get 646 IB Tech

[red hawk]

I have literally all of them

just gotta MLB a few more

[haughty skiff]

Then it's just a matter of MLBing them, you're good*

[haughty skiff]

oh you have Eugen MLB

[red hawk]

yeah that was from a while back

[haughty skiff]

How much IB Tech do you have right now ?

[red hawk]

546

[haughty skiff]

oh okay so like

if you MLB Gne & Deustchland then you have enough

[red hawk]

yeah just need some levels on them

[haughty skiff]

but you still need 3 IB Main fleet MLB to actually get the EXP

[red hawk]

I can farm weser or elbe from WA

while levelling some ships

as well as dupes for gnei

[haughty skiff]

it'd make more sense to just keep farming Divergent D4 tbh

[haughty skiff]

also you can't farm elbe / weser from WA; only Gne/ Scharn

[red hawk]

idk why I was thinking they were on Divergent

but still I can get gne and possibility of z46 and it is oil capped

[haughty skiff]

Yeah you're fine; just make sure you have 3 IB Main ships for the FDG grind

[red hawk]

I can mlb one of the carriers with bulins if I need to

[haughty skiff]

You'll need to MLB Weser or Elbe with bulins, you should MLB Gne / Scharn primarily with copies

But you can also hold off until the UR on the 12th

Since you'll be pulling so much that it isn't absurd to potentially get any of them as Elites from those pulls

[red hawk]

oh yeah in case any IB ships in the pool?

that's thinking with your dipstick jimmy

[haughty skiff]

Yeah, mainly just incase you get elite fails that might be copies

It's not about the tech anymore and moreso 'i need 3 IB Mainfleet without wasting all my bulins'

[red hawk]

considering I'm at a point where I have as many UR bulins as I do elite and zero golds rn

I really do intend to try and hoard them for a bit from now on

[safe nexus]

now that i bought unicorn penny portland helena, what do i buy from the guild shop now?

[haughty skiff]

valid, just keep doing Divergent everyday and then decide the cheapest course of action on the 12th to get those 3 IB Mains

[red hawk]

you can either save your coins for other resources you need from guild, or buy dupes of those ships to limit break them

[kind needle]

Did monarch got better?

[forest palm]

yes

[haughty skiff]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/

[safe nexus]

ok thank you, do i get a second unicorn or something for a second fleet

[safe nexus]

i read this yeah just not sure if i should buy more ships or not from the shop

[red hawk]

no, you don't want to waste resources levelling a copy, you would use a copy of her to increase her limit break level

[sweet delta]

Gold retrofit blueprints (carriers) when available are top priority

[haughty skiff]

You will never multiple copies of a ship; you want spare copies to save bulins for limit breaking

[red hawk]

you only want ONE ship of each

[haughty skiff]

^
Unicorn Retrofit is extremely important and should be your primary target

[safe nexus]

ok clear ty

[kind needle]

What did they do? (Didn't rlly know about it)

[safe nexus]

my luck is really bad to never seen a retrofit in the guild shop

[red hawk]

dupes are purely for Max Limit Break, after that you will retire any extras for medals

[haughty skiff]

Make sure you also cheese x-4 Hardmode stages in Chapter3+ , that way you can get guarenteed Gold Retrofit Blueprints for Unicorn

[safe nexus]

do i just skip to boss and ignore killing all enemy?

[red hawk]

you're new, you wont see it for awhile and then it'll happen multiple times in a row it's rng

[safe nexus]

if i have Z23 for DD do i need tai yuan?

[sick kettle]

what are the good easily accessible royal vg? i need them for Cheshire combat xp

[viscid swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUgwyBe1hZc

[viscid swift]

you don't need good ships to farm CDC in W12

[haughty skiff]

You do not need Tai Yuan

Okay so;
All -1 stages drop Destroyer Blueprints, -2 Cruiser, -3 Battleship & -4 Carriers (ie; 3-4 drops Carrier Retrofit Blueprints, 3-1 drops Destroyer.)

You want to 3-star Hardmode stages as the reward for 3-starring them is 2x Retrofit Blueprints of that stage. 3-starring hardmode stages in & above Chapter 3 will give you 2x Gold Retrofit Blueprints of that stage. So you want to 3-star all x-4 stages.

You can 3-star any hardmode stage without using more than 1 attempt because it only takes one of your daily attempts when you beat the boss. So you can go in, kill all the mobs and then the boss, re-enter the stage and only kill the mobs and not the boss until the 3-stars are obtained.

Doing this will allow you to get Unicorn Retrofit quickly so you she can hopefully carry you in more difficult content (ie; upcoming UR event stages, later campaign stages, war archive, ect..)

[safe nexus]

alright thx for the answer

[red hawk]

a word of note on the hardmode thing- you have to be careful, you can't clear the boss on the third stage of the day till he's your LAST kill

or it'll lock you out of clearing mobs on that stage till the next day

[haughty skiff]

^ forgot to mention that

[sick kettle]

alr guess ill pick anyone then

[haughty skiff]

you need to do it in reverse for the last stage of the day, but it won't effect your total attempts tomorrow / next day if you do mess it up

[red hawk]

once you kill three bosses no more hard mode, so on the third hard mode stage you do, clear mobs, reset until you have less mobs needed than you know will spawn on your final run and then do all enemies and finish with the boss

yeah and if you do mess it up, all you do is go back the next day and clear mobs to get your last star

[viscid swift]

I'd still prioritze ships that give decent tech

and/or someone you might use like Aurora or Sirius

[sick kettle]

ill look it up

[safe nexus]

a bit confused guess i go find out tmr

[red hawk]

you can only kill the boss of a hard mode stage 3 times a day, so you can retreat from the map over and over to fulfill the 3* requirements without killing the boss till the last run you do on a specific stage so that you don't get locked out of hard mode for the day

once you get that third kill you can't even re-enter the hard mode map to clear escort ships

so you need to wait to do the boss on your 3rd hard mode stage of the day till after you've cleared enough escorts for 3*

youll figure it out for sure once you accidentally lock yourself out lol

[safe nexus]

ah ok clear now

thx

[red hawk]

@haughty skiff should I just not be developing a PR ship rn until I get fleet tech for FDG? or do I start something like monarch

[haughty skiff]

monarch isnt bad to start but considering you're like

[red hawk]

in an awkward place that's so close?

[haughty skiff]

a few days out from starting FDG, i dont see a point of starting anything else

[red hawk]

yeah I was kinda figuring that but I didn't know for sure if I need to ALWAYS be doing something in PR

it's not like they're not timegated themselves anyway, so even if I start monarch I could get hung up trying to get whatever she needs

though I do think she's a BB right? so at least I'd have the retrofit parts

[haughty skiff]

you also don't need every PR ship

Monarch is one of the top gold BBs with augment, but if you're getting FDG and have any other UR BB then she isn't a priority unless you specifically need a BB slow

I'd say just keep coining Roon and then go for FDG;

DR & PRs (UR / Gold PR ships) have seperate coin-ups; so you can be coining 1 DR & 1 PR a day, everyday

[red hawk]

yeah I just don't have any DR's unlocked

[haughty skiff]

so ideally something like this; Roon -> FDG -> Anchorage -> Agir -> AVP -> Ply, ect.. will enable you to always be coining 2 at once without needing to slowdown

[red hawk]

I have FDG doing catchup rn

[haughty skiff]

Are you going to do the PR Catchup Min-Max ?

[red hawk]

yeah that was my aim

[haughty skiff]

Right; Once Roon is Dev30 then you can start on that whilst coining up FDG + Anchorage / AVP (Anchorage > AVP)

[red hawk]

ok, so I swap to anchorage catchup when I start developing FDG right?

[haughty skiff]

ideally you want to always have a PR / DR that you can coin-up at all times to reduce the amount of months it'll take to get everyone done; since unlocking all the DRs doesn't matter if they're not deved

[red hawk]

or no I go to roon at 30 and use hers to analyze

[haughty skiff]

You can only do a catch-up for protocores once that ship is Dev30

Roon has to be Dev30 before you do her catchup

DR Prints aren't worth coverting to protocores

[red hawk]

I think I'm getting terms switched up again, the catchup isn't what I mean, I have the research focus on FDG

[haughty skiff]

So once you're done doing FDG's catchup, either swap to Plymouth (if Roon isn't Dev30) or Roon if she is Dev30

[haughty skiff]

your Research Focus is on PR2 ?

[red hawk]

hold on I need to look at stuff, I'm mid repeat sortie I think I'm getting myself confused

I'm doing PR7 but I have the ship picked out in research for FDG

[haughty skiff]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/#research_focus

[haughty skiff]

Research Focus is solely a PR, Catchup is always a shipgirl

[rain vine]

catchup gives you bonus prints for the chosen ship whenever you compleye research
focus guarantees that some of the research options you see will be of the season chosen

[haughty skiff]

if that helps you remember the difference

[red hawk]

but I thought you couldn't do catchup till dev 30

[frank phoenix]

How do you even get the new META?

[ivory pawn]

Beat ‘em up in Showdown as usual. Gotta unlock Opsi first if you haven’t yet.

[red hawk]

research focus I know I'm doing season 7, but I'm getting the extra BPS for FDG I know that

[rain vine]

catchup can be activated whenever, its just better to activate it after dev 30 so you can protocore the maximum amount of prints

[frank phoenix]

So lvl 60

[haughty skiff]

Catch-up can be done at anytime; only for the PR Min-Max is when you do catch-ups after dev30 so you can get the protocores from the prints

[red hawk]

I was told to start doing BPs for her while I was finishing roon

and then just coin roon to 30

[haughty skiff]

Yeah, since you're not using her prints for protocores

[ivory pawn]

Aye. Clearing Opsi stages gets you the tickets for up to two fights a day vs the ongoing META and an additional two vs previous METAs.

[red hawk]

at what point then do I swap catchup to roon so I can burn her prints?

[haughty skiff]

you don't use DR Catch-ups for PR Min-Max

It's a great idea to do her prints whilst working on Roon

[haughty skiff]

When Roon is Dev30

So after 30 days of 10x coin-ups a day

oh wait its a little bit longer

[rain vine]

34-35 days

[haughty skiff]

like 35 days of 10x a day

[cobalt rapids]

i recommend doing some DR catchups to protocore aswell
u only save ~15 days of coining but if converted u actually get enough protocore for a full rainbow gear

[red hawk]

ok, so i had some roon BP's already and it wouldn't let me analyze them so I had to invest them in her dev level, so she's already 10

[red hawk]

it wouldn't let me coin while I had BPs

[soft raft]

That's how it's designed
You have to have no BPs before you can coin

[haughty skiff]

Drake & Azuma's DR prints can for-sure be tossed for protocores but that does require you to actually get them to Dev30, which isn't really ideal for a newbie

[haughty skiff]

thanks but i did correct myself in the next sentence

[cobalt rapids]

this is why i recommend doing fdg agir and haku catchup to protocore aswell
because coining drake and azuma will take months

[red hawk]

so I will have a slightly quicker time getting her to dev 30, but I believe that means I'll have less prints to do protocores for roon at dev 30 right?

[obtuse island]

does the difference between barracudas and breguets justify the price

[red hawk]

since I had already started doing her catchup when I started her?

[cobalt rapids]

what price

[obtuse island]

800 protocores if that's the right name

[cobalt rapids]

yes since u cannot analyze bps before a ship is d30 and u cannot coin a ship if u have bps for her lying around

[red hawk]

I hadn't started the setup for minmax when I started roon, I just got taught about it the other day

[cobalt rapids]

its a good coredata purchase but not the highest prio one
ull most notably feel the barracuda > breguette diff in heavy plane worlds like 15 where breguette passive intercept comes in handy since their surface dmg are otherwise the same

[quaint tapir]

breguets are pretty irrelevant before w13, turbo irrelevant if you still don't have your 3 white shells sorted

[haughty skiff]

Valid, but it isn't cooked if they take the slightly-early FDG tbh

Handbook + PR 1 -> 4 is enough to get all UR Gear + most of the gold

[red hawk]

I have 55 catchup BPs left on FDG, should I swap back to Saint Louis for her last 30 on catchup when that's done so I can analyze those?

[obtuse island]

i mean i already went through w13, it's just that i wanted an upgrade

[haughty skiff]

the catchups are shared with the non-DRs

you can only get 300 total , not 300 per

[obtuse island]

but if the upgrade is that irrelevant i might just stick to barracudas until i get another wyvern

[cobalt rapids]

i think getting "consider tier" and 1 piece of luxury gear is better than getting a DR 2 weeks earlier
but as i said depends on ur wants

[viscid swift]

it's not irrelevant

[cobalt rapids]

the upgrade is relevant in ch15 like i said

[haughty skiff]

They can get rid of Agir + Haku DRs and be fine tbh

since theyve already taken the FDG ones

[cobalt rapids]

technically ure fine either way

[haughty skiff]

I'm saying that in context of the min-max (aka they havent made it impossible to get to consider / luxary, ect)

[cobalt rapids]

yea i got it, i meant its a choice of how fast u want the ships and how fast u want the gear
depends on the player
u can post pone it till drake and azuma aswell and be fine

[red hawk]

yeah I did speed up on saint louis as well as bought independence so I'm behind on gearing

[haughty skiff]

tbh i'd say gear in general is just a way bigger hurdle for newbies

[cobalt rapids]

i agree

[red hawk]

im still struggling to get full sets of auxes to 10

never enough purple gen plates

[oak cove]

hey yall, would you guys recommend a youtube video for me to watch to get up to speed on things? am new. only lvl 30. wanna start off right so im not kicking my own butt in 2 weeks

[turbid marsh]

think there are some guides you can read in bot-spam, wouldn't recommend youtube XD

[cobalt rapids]

well i wouldnt stress too much over it
u will want indep at some point and coredata is earned at a decent pace and abit of combat packs and some used catchup is a fine margin
theres quite afew spare protocore but just make sure u dont go into the red
the guide linked above lists the costs which is quite handy so u can plan ahead

[viscid swift]

the advice is to read and not to watch any AL youtube newbie guide
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

because I have not seen a single good AL newbie guide on youtube

[cobalt rapids]

once u start grinding oilcap regurlarly the purple plate problem will slowly go away

[oak cove]

thank you all so much! im 4 minutes into an hour long one so thanks for saving me the time LOL

[viscid swift]

you mean this?

https://youtu.be/-IEveM4D0EA?si=i8vhX6LCxuNwN5Mv

[oak cove]

thats the one lol

[viscid swift]

I left a multi part critique in the comment section

reading that would legitiemately be more infromative than watching the video and be quicker too

[oak cove]

downloading blue stacks so i can grind 12 hours a day lol. and wow, im so glad you were to save me the trouble then. 1st game like this ive played too so im super new to all of it. that wouldve set me up for disaster

[hollow viper]

should I retrofit Z23 and get her augment? I don't want to sink more bulins into my Vanguard SRs like Kubyshev, Kirov, Le Terrible and Pompeo.

[rain vine]

would suggest mumu 12, itll run a lot better than bluestacks

[dark hazel]

she's a good early ship to retrofit, unicorn and portland first though. if you're splitting bulins between ships, stop doing that. mlb or nothing.

[hollow viper]

I already have Unicorn and Portland. Done already made the mistake of the last part.

[oak cove]

yeah it said "device incompatible on bluestacks so here i come mum 12!

[hollow viper]

what about her augment? I do have enough to get it. Will probably have enough for San diego, not saratoga, later down when I get to retrofitting her.

[red hawk]

dont bother with her aug

Sandy/Sara/Hood are priorities

[oak cove]

if i throw out my fleet line up for 1 and 2 can yall give me a critique?

[red hawk]

make a thread in this channel

[clear harbor]

Yeah, but which one is yours?

[Sees Belfast PFP] Oh, here it is.

[oak cove]

gonna create a thread for my line up as soon as i can finish farming for nelson in 2-3 lol

[viscid swift]

You shouldn't be farming for Nelson deliberately anyway

[oak cove]

my lineup fleet 1 & 2

[oak cove]

ahh someone in game chat told me to farm for nelson

[red hawk]

you dont really need to farm for any ships at this point

[oak cove]

well shucks

[red hawk]

yeah everything you basically need is in the guild shop to get you started

[olive rover]

I'm curious about the equipment recommendation for U-552 that was added to the tier list website last week, specifically the snorkel for Auxillary 1 if not using Bidder torpedoes. Her first skill makes her immediately surface right?:

When the battle starts: this boat will surface for 10s and perform surface attacks during this duration, after which she will dive and leave the battle (gains 100% SPD while leaving battle).
So if she basically doesn't stay submerged until she leaves the battle, I thought adding oxygen with a snorkel was useless on her, is that incorrect?
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ss?ship=u-552

[sweet delta]

...after which she will dive and act as a normal submarine and then leave the battle

For more info see https://youtu.be/XndliUgo5dA?si=BG3guJVBMhdGA-x6 last two slides, skip to 3:50

[olive rover]

Thanks!

[soft raft]

In-game chat
Bruh lol

[chrome flower]

Could someone help me make a OPSI fleet please? I am hopeless with fleet building

[rain vine]

open a thread

[crisp geode]

Do we know of z52 evenr will be rerun any time soon?

[chrome flower]

Opsi Fleet Build Help

[rain vine]

its gonna be at least another 1-1.5 years for her to get a rerun

[silk helm]

staag worth +13? or nah

[stark quiver]

ofc not lol

[silk helm]

my aa is too damn weak smh

[rapid summit]

Should I change these into prototype?

[haughty skiff]

always

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

[silk helm]

is rat gun better than staag on BBs?

[stark quiver]

ofc

[silk helm]

okay that's what i thought

[stark quiver]

more hit good
and reduced aa damage

[silk helm]

my ships r so bad i keep dying to aa... time to craft another rat gun

[red hawk]

do I bother levelling hood past 120?

[rain vine]

i wouldnt

[red hawk]

Eldridge I should eventually though right

[rain vine]

priority for 125 would be your backline damage dealers

[red hawk]

I don't think I really have too many worth putting to 125 then tbh, maybe enty? I don't know if independ or essex will but they're a ways off from being invested in

and I have no good BB's really

[turbid marsh]

well, you probably want to post a screenshot of what you have in dock in that case, for back liners

[bronze solstice]

Anyone know if the attack winrate stat on your profile apply to opsi battles?

[red hawk]

Yes I have a few I shouldn't at 125, that's why I'm asking to make sure I'm not being wasteful going forward

And no I won't apologize for 125ing yumia and Nina

Kinda thinking I messed up getting indep when I can't really invest in her yet

[turbid marsh]

i dont think you need any 125s as of now, aim for 120 first so that you can get more gold bulins and ur bulins to get essex + whitehoe/shinano 125... 120 is already enough to handle w12 and most of the opsi except hard arbitor

[red hawk]

yeah im good with w12, im just kinda looking towards when I stop farming and get ready to push 13 after the event

[turbid marsh]

yeah, lv120 is good enough for w13 too, especially when you get essex + saratoga up there, independance very strong in campaign as well. no need to rush campaign, its always there anyways

[red hawk]

also was told to not use UR bulins on shinano since she has exchange dupes

im sitting on 4 for the new UR

[turbid marsh]

i would agree with that, because you can only get 6000 proto per month.

would wait until get skill of whitehoe, maybe at that point shinano gets her moment to shine and raises her priority

[red hawk]

I'm thinking the new UR carrier will probably be more useful immediately to me than shinano even if I mlb'd her, simply due to comp issues with my fleet

I don't have good ijn ships to go with her ability

[turbid marsh]

i suspect whitehoe would function together with shinano tbh, as shinano is the... fraction buff. but no need to invest now, stick with what you have and go for 120 for now tbh

[eternal basalt]

5000+3000 now actually

[turbid marsh]

oh its 3000 now, oh dang, im outdated. even better

[red hawk]

I'm realizing now I should pay better attention to my damage breakdowns on maps, so I can better understand where my damage is coming from so I don't have to ask some of these dumbass questions sorry

[turbid marsh]

theres no dumbass questions, the worst possible answer u'd get would probably read guides again before asking XD

[red hawk]

im not gonna lie, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about when you say whitehoe XD I'm still learning the slang

[turbid marsh]

hakuhoe

[red hawk]

oh I was gonna guess Taiho or w/e it is

the only levelled sakura ship I have atm is shigure