gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

no, OpSi does no consume morale

[patent raft]

Welp that good to hear. thank for intel

[red hawk]

is there a guide on what to prioritize from the voucher shop

[forest palm]

I'd probably look to get the T4 Books, HELP, and the Blue Loggers

[soft raft]

5 and 6 are essentially the same so you'd go with 5 which costs less AP

[red hawk]

what exactly do you get out of file missions

[forest palm]

a bunch of mats and a UR blank

all garunteed

[red hawk]

just wish it wasnt all zero xp fights

[forest palm]

I think the benefits far outweigh the lack of XP

[red hawk]

yeah just saying lol

[stark quiver]

what is weapon stat modifier

[turbid marsh]

that exist? is that the augment one?

[stark quiver]

i have no clue

[boreal wagon]

if you add a bit more context to your question i might be able to answer it

[stark quiver]

cancerous text

im trying to do damage calcs

[boreal wagon]

do you mean weaponstatsmultiplier

[turbid marsh]

🙁

[boreal wagon]

if so did you try reading a line above

[stark quiver]

i just saw it yes

alright its time to do some maths

this is gonna be hard

[vale spindle]

I am 99% sure every single variable used in formulas on that page is explained somewhere with examples on that page

(i made the page)

[sweet delta]

||but how do you know nobody edited a variable definition away after you finished?||

[willow crag]

Well this is bad, Ive been running corrosion level 6 for the past hour

[vale spindle]

thats why 99% and not 100%

[willow crag]

Oh well whatver floats my ships ig, Im too lazy to change it now

[red hawk]

the auto search on hidden maps is atrocious

[forest palm]

it just goes from point A to point B, it does get a little stupid when it comes to hazard tiles, and espcially if an objective is blocked

[red hawk]

it cruises by like 6 stash boxes to go get one meowfficer node in the corner, only to have to come back, and then go all the way to another corner for another node without finishing cleaning up the little area it's in, it just has a silly priority

[red hawk]

if I were gonna blow all my opsi mats so far on one UR weapon should it be the BB gun from EU or the Wyvern plane

[arctic snow]

now that we got hermit for arbiter, should i change sirius for another ship? since half her buff doesnt work. idk if there's a better choice, only kazagumo but sadly i dont have her

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[red hawk]

so I guess it's not really clear, it does look like wyvern might be better for new player, but it sounds like there aren't a whole lot of BB upgrades outside of prototype shop on this list

actually maybe I should just do the tenrai and go with the most valuable across the board

[sweet delta]

Do you have a source for this

[viscid swift]

why are you focused on just the aspect of upgrading

and not how much of an upgrade it is and how useful will it actually be

[hot tiger]

Which ones could be used for opsi?

[viscid swift]

where are you in the main campaign?

[viscid swift]

I suspected as much

for OpSi you use the same fleets as you do for the main campaign

forget about 2 fleets and focus your efforts on just

Admiral Zenker, Unicorn, Enterprise, Portland, Laffey, Helena

and also limit break your ships asap

your ships get massive performance boosts when they're limit broken and as such don't use non max limit broken ships whereever possible

[hot tiger]

So these ships will be good for opsi

[fallen verge]

which livestream is going to reveal the new ships?

[viscid swift]

no, they're just your best ships to push the main campaign with

you cant afford to build different fleets for different content yet

[hot tiger]

Why would I need to push the campaign again?

[viscid swift]

so you can get to better maps to farm for coins and XP

maps starting from chapter 9 get oil caps which massive boosts your efficinecy

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[fallen verge]

ch9 is level 65 right

[viscid swift]

and W12 is the best spot to farm overall, so that's where want to get to

[wind hazel]

it was from the cn datamine guy, but i think he removed the post. something about after the ignition from yuudachi, she has a pulling effect on herself, so meck pairing from bisz wasn't needed. 🫃🏼 maybe bugged and patched away, idk, but i can't find back the exact post

[sweet delta]

Well she does apply the same buff as Bisz's black hole

But ||Bisz black hole no longer counts as a pulling effect for the purposes of meck and fritz ||

[wind hazel]

huh

[turbid marsh]

fritz skill = double slow when affected by pulling

[kindred ingot]

finally, I am free

[sweet delta]

actually it's not the same buff, but anyways neither buff applies the pulling tag

[turbid marsh]

houston II:

[wind hazel]

wait so what activate meck's skill now? lol

[sweet delta]

Sucks other than biszs

[kindred ingot]

is 14-4 actually noticeably easier because of the ammo node?

[sweet delta]

No

[wind hazel]

was this just changed in the latest patch?

[sweet delta]

Ok so here's what I think happened

1. Bisz black hole applies buff 200454 which adds a tag that Fritz and Meck check for.
2. Yuudachi applies buff 200454 to herself
3. Devs realized that it was a typo
4. Devs created a new buff 201510 for Yuudachi
5. For whatever reason, devs removed the tag from 200454 and made 200454 identical to 201510 except the ID

[wind hazel]

so im guessing it's a bug

[turbid marsh]

mob sure, boss is still bit hard

[kindred ingot]

I mainly struggled with the full mob clear in 14-3 so that's what matters

[sweet delta]

Have you considered making the threat level safe before going for the third star?

[kindred ingot]

to be honest it didn't even occur to me because I just wanted to do spend the least amount of time on this chapter

but I guess I might do that for 14-4 if I struggle too much

[viscid swift]

well if your fleet isn't stong enough to consistently 3 star without ammo what other choice do you have

[turbid marsh]

yeah, mob harder in 14-3 cause ammo node

[spice phoenix]

how good is montpelier augment for late-game campaign?

she seems good on paper to me

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't use her for W14 or W15 if I could help it

[wet prairie]

Is jp anni stream today?

[viscid swift]

the stream starts in about 3.5 hours but the actual in game news doesn't start for another 10 hours or so

[wet prairie]

Damnit

Who should I research for pr8 and where did agir fs go

[stark quiver]

im just gona sleep now and become nocturnal

[stark quiver]

doesnt really matter since none are usable pre dev 30
agir fs is not out yet

[fallen verge]

is 8-4 worth farming for maya

[wet prairie]

It’s been almost 2 years (since I left and she still hadn’t had it)

[stark quiver]

do you need her for collection and tech?

[wet prairie]

Maya is in medal no?

[stark quiver]

No

[wet prairie]

Huh I never got her somehow

[meager tiger]

whats the consensus on the new pr8 gear?
any of it good?

[forest palm]

1x 283/57 for Gouden outside of that just the UR gun

[quaint tapir]

donskoi gun is okay as a BB secondary, leeuw gun is iirc a pretty okay HE gun option if you don't just run unzen gun? mecklenburg gun is the new heavy boss pick
AA gun and torps are both dogwater, kansas gun is just worse than champagne/flandre guns

[forest palm]

not worth bother with the Triple 180, and again the Triple 283/57 is only good for Gouden

[opaque galleon]

Isn’t it also good for the German Panzerschiff?

[forest palm]

Deutschlands?

[red hawk]

I don't have any ships that really need augs rn, and I have the mats, would it be a bad idea to go ahead and give z23 her augment

[obtuse island]

starters are lowk useless if you can afford building actual fleets

just keep the mats, the income is already low enough

[quaint tapir]

probably?
highest theoretical light DPS on ships with a +15% modifier against DDs and CLs (which are often light)
end of the day they're purple ships tho so idk how much mileage you'll really get out of them even with the leeuw gun

[red hawk]

if I had any ships worth building, it's not even so much about the income, I just literally have nothing good except like eldridge

[stark quiver]

if youre at 12-1 then go grind fleet tech

[red hawk]

doing IB right now for roon/fdg

[stark quiver]

i dont mean faction tech
i mean getting various ships to level 120 for the stat bonus

[red hawk]

PR seems a little more important to get that process moving

considering I can combine both

[stark quiver]

you dont use all 6 ships in the fleet to grind for roon

[red hawk]

no, but to get to FDG I'm gonna need a bunch of IB tech

[stark quiver]

whats your backline

[red hawk]

mob is Uni Enty (just so she can get some levels) and boss is Nina Sara Yumia

[stark quiver]

so level 120+ ships thatre wasting xp

[red hawk]

I'm swapping ships as I can get them to safe levels to survive

[stark quiver]

oh, yea get to safe and then put in good tech ships

[red hawk]

only one of those ships is maxed, and I don't HAVE THE SHIPS TO CLEAR OTHERWISE

like when I've put all my resources just getting a fleet that can clear that I oviously won't have a lot of ships that can be instantly stuck in that fleet and survive thats common sense

I can't stick level ones in my fleet

as I get stuff into the zone I'm using both opsi C1 to level and then put them into 12-1 and replaced levelled ships

it's literally impossible to not waste some xp especially when you're so reliant on uni

[haughty skiff]

A bit late to the convo but i'll just plug all this here. It's understandable that your other ships won't be really viable as you lack characters, so just try eventually sub out 2/3 of the main fleet and keep Unicorn Retro back there to keep everyone alive

If you're new then i'd heavily recommend reading this guide;
https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

If you're just farming 120 fleet tech for permastats then you can use whatever IB CL / CA gives + FP at 120 below

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

You can check the IB Fleet Tech guide below, it's mainly for getting higher PR ships such as Hinden / Agir but is ideal for getting IB Tech cheaply

https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleet_technology/

[vagrant iron]

Thanks for the heads up

[haughty skiff]

Roon at Dev30 + other MLBs is usually enough to get FDG

[stark quiver]

im really sure theyve read the newbie tips, and seeing as theyre somewhat midway into the game

[red hawk]

im farming the war archive, there's not a whole lot of options for good IB tech

I have hippert and eugen

[viscid swift]

Graf Spee from the guild shop

[red hawk]

already had her from something, working on getting levels up

[viscid swift]

Bismarck and Tirpitz from the medal shop when BBs are on rotation

Z46 is also in the medal shop rotation

[red hawk]

I have like 10 more runs for z46 I took Kaz

[viscid swift]

as well as at least one other Iron Blood DD in the guild shop

you can also get U-410 from her event in mini games archive

[red hawk]

do subs give fleet tech? I didn't even think of that I have a bunch of KMS subs

[viscid swift]

you also have the Koenigsburgs and Leipzig

[viscid swift]

yes

[obtuse island]

iirc it's in the fleet tech guide

[red hawk]

I was using the tracker when I was starting the war archive

that's how I noticed that some ships give worse tech than lower qualities and it's weird, like SR's that give the same or worse than rares

[haughty skiff]

This alone is 442 / 630; almost everything is available from Divergent with the rest being Campaign / Guild

Roon Dev30 is 114
Z46 collection is 22

That's 578/630 , you can pretty easily get the rest from just collection via Guild Shop / Merit (if you have Eldridge) or even picking up a Medal shop IB

[red hawk]

I have this just for vanguard

[haughty skiff]

oh yeah i forgor prinz eugen collection

[red hawk]

I should have enough ships by now, just gotta get levels

I want Z46 though

[haughty skiff]

Show your IB Backline ships ?

[red hawk]

literally just Sharn Gneis Weser and Elbe all pretty low

I haven't had many opportunities for mains from IB

[stark quiver]

sharn, geneiseneau good

[haughty skiff]

yeah those are all solid

but mainly sharn + gne due to easy mlb from divergent

[haughty skiff]

imo just farm D4 Divergent Chessboard

[red hawk]

I have like 10 runs left

so one way or another I'll have her

[haughty skiff]

the bigger issue isnt collecting her, its getting copies

[red hawk]

yeah that's the one problem I'm in right now, is a lack of gold bulins, I used a lot of SR's from the collab and stuff like eldridge I've levelled so I'm out

[haughty skiff]

you'll need to MLB 3 of your IB Backliners for grinding FDG's EXP

you shouldnt use gold bulins ?

you dont and shouldnt MLB any gold IB ships for fleet tech

every recommeneded MLB are cheap purples that drop from Divergent Chessboard D4

so overtime you should just slowly get enough copies to MLB them and gather the tech

[red hawk]

ok

[hot tiger]

How do I get points

[red hawk]

collect ships and level them up, they just linked all the guides above

for that one you need specifically 20 Sakura Frontline Boats in your dock

[viscid swift]

literally just get 8 more sakura empiren vanguard ships

again though, you're not at the stage of the game where you should really be focusing on PR

[hot tiger]

Tbh I'm a focus on it now so it will help me later type guy

[weary gust]

Focusing on PR now will not help you later.

[viscid swift]

I will be blunt, focusing on unlocking Ibuki will be more detriment for you than benefit

[hot tiger]

What should I focus on now?

[weary gust]

If you want to focus on the optimal path forward, then getting to 12-4 as fast as possible will be the best in the long run because from there you can focus on training up other ships and have a steady supply of exp/coins.

Operation Siren as well as soon as you have level ~100 ships.

[viscid swift]

none of the PRs, they're at best a secondary focus until you get to Chapter 12

you need a lot of coins and other resoucres not only to unlock a PR ship but to enhance them as well

and you are in no position to be able to afford all of that in isolation, forgetting about all the other uses of those resources you need for pushing the main campaign currently

[hot tiger]

Should I replace dunkerque with admiral zenker

[viscid swift]

if you can limit break the latter yes

just gonna reiterate what I said earlier

[civic prairie]

Is farming 10-4 better than 9-4?

[grizzled sundial]

Is enemy repair ship the top target priority for air strike , or is it command ship ?

[sweet delta]

10-3 or war archives are better https://suchiguma.github.io/deepresearch/auto-search-exp-and-coins/

[grizzled sundial]

13-3 the boss is the crane sister , i am confident that my CV can take out both of them the moment they spawn but all the plane waste their torp strike on the repair ship that spawn alongside the boss .

[hot tiger]

Will i need to replace Portland lafffey and Helena later?

[sweet delta]

for 13-3 boss it is repair > command > bosses

[viscid swift]

eventually yes

Portland and Laffey sooner than Helena

[hot tiger]

Who should I replace them with

[viscid swift]

you can worry about that after you get to W12

[hot tiger]

Are they taking damage cuz they aren't limit broke yet?

[haughty skiff]

uh what stage are you on ?

[viscid swift]

well you should limit break your ships asap
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376280341337346220/1376291966332964985/mlb1_day.png?ex=68bc95c7&is=68bb4447&hm=7de2120160dabb5db9ba36fb0b0485739a689474f4c5fddff3ef38c5e3751930&

[haughty skiff]

since you really dont need two fleets pre-W9 , and fox twins aren't exactly good

also ^

[viscid swift]

but using a healer for your one fleet would help tremendously

as well using actually good ships and gear

[viscid swift]

ahem

[hot tiger]

7-4

[haughty skiff]

you have bigger issues then just mlbs by the looks of it, i'd recommend rereading what Rascal mentioned earlier

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

i can't tell what that BB is in your fleet

[viscid swift]

it's Dunkerque META

[haughty skiff]

It isnt according to the Wiki chibi ?

its what i thought as well but they arent the same

[soft raft]

Nah that's regular Dunk

[viscid swift]

well that's even worse

[haughty skiff]

oh it is

is dunk meta even better for newbies to invest in vs penny

[soft raft]

no

[haughty skiff]

what i thought

[viscid swift]

if nothing else she has a preload

[haughty skiff]

preload and a okay solo heal if mobbing

but seems like a waste of the META parts (?)

[hot tiger]

It sucks that the fox sisters are bad performance wise, but they are very great waifus though

[viscid swift]

you can work on your waifus later

[haughty skiff]

It's not bad to pick waifu > meta, it just should be after you progress and can easily do both without it hindering your progression

[viscid swift]

there's an event due next week and right now you're not in a good position to farm it

[haughty skiff]

How many cubes do you have right now ?

[haughty skiff]

Unicorn Retro takes like 3-ish days of Hardmode 3-starring to get from scratch so it isn't too late for them tbh

[viscid swift]

that's not the only issue

they're not gonna be meeting the stat requirements with that meager fleet

[haughty skiff]

for-sure but its a start

biggest issue will be torps, no ? and we're likely getting a fodder DD / Torp CL on banner or in milestone ?

since it's IJN after all

[viscid swift]

average level requirements, hull type restrictions, etc

not to mention the time that will be needed to level up new ships

[haughty skiff]

Okay not terrible; never pull on the permanent banner more than once a day on the light banner for your daily missions

[viscid swift]

you should be doing a daily pull on the light pool

[haughty skiff]

yeah, also what i said

[hot tiger]

I don't like to spend cubes at all

[viscid swift]

why...

it's literally a free build basically

[hot tiger]

I like to save important stuff

[viscid swift]

you have a mission to do a pull daily, the misisons gives you back oen cube and 800 coins

[red hawk]

you literally get a free one back

[viscid swift]

and you spend 1 cube and 600 coins for one pull on the light banner

[red hawk]

and more gold than you spent by 200

[viscid swift]

you literally make money from it

[haughty skiff]

you should do your daily pull on the light banner as it is a freebie that pays you more then you spend

[red hawk]

if you aren't doing a daily pull you're wasting resources

[haughty skiff]

Send your dock ?

[red hawk]

but only on the light (x1 cube)

[hot tiger]

Yeah but I have to spend 2 cubes

[viscid swift]

you also build up pity points for teh perament URs

[red hawk]

no, pull light

[haughty skiff]

No, not on the Light banner; it's 1 Cube

[viscid swift]

sigh

[red hawk]

oof

[viscid swift]

literally just do what I said here

[hot tiger]

My fleet sucks.... doesn't it....

[haughty skiff]

this is interesting; but uh, it needs major work

[viscid swift]

I am dead

[red hawk]

definitely don't invest in shinano, you won't be able to MLB her right away

[haughty skiff]

they have a copy of her (?) ; i'll post this since you're just not reading it

Zenker / Unicorn / Enterprise
Portland / Helena / Laffey

Focus on retrofitting Unicorn as soon as possible; Limit break Zenker if you can, limit break Helena by purchasing copies of her through the Guild Shop. Limit break Laffey with bulins if you lack spare copies

[hot tiger]

K

[haughty skiff]

And what is your LVL70 Shinano at ? I see she has some limit breaks & you have a spare copy (?)

You'll never raise duplicates of a ship so you can always use them as limit break fodder

[red hawk]

wouldn't it be quicker to use bulins on helena and try and get laffey copies from map drops?

[hot tiger]

Wdym?

[viscid swift]

have you tried farming the starters as map drops?

[haughty skiff]

Helena is a guild shop character; they can buy her twice at the guild shop

[viscid swift]

they're lower than your usual elite drop rates

[red hawk]

no, I haven't tried farming the starters they all just kinda showed up throughout my campaign

[haughty skiff]

This Shinano - How many stars (aka limit breaks) is she ?

[hot tiger]

I'm just one away

[viscid swift]

like I've had this happen multiple times when farming for map drops

[haughty skiff]

mm is 5* Shinano good enough in campaign

[red hawk]

one random ship that just won't drop despite lower rarity?

[viscid swift]

compared to a 6 star level 82 Enterprise?

[viscid swift]

no, one or multiple of the starters not dropping before the exclusive map drop

[haughty skiff]

nono, since Enty is being used in mobbing; im thinking about when they need to make two fleets for Hardmode Event

[hot tiger]

Will i need to ever replace shinano

[viscid swift]

also, I actually paid attention to the drops whe I was farming 12-4

[viscid swift]

they can't even limit break one fleet right now let alone 2

[haughty skiff]

They already have her 5* with a spare , unsure if theyve done the UR Handbook yet

[red hawk]

they won't have the stats for the hardmode

[viscid swift]

so? even if she's ready that's rather superfluous if there's nothing else to go with her

which there very much isn't, like even remotely close

[hot tiger]

Wait, shinano drops?

What stage?

[viscid swift]

no, I got the 2 conversations confused

[analog phoenix]

How can i get Plymouth's blue print fast ?

[hot tiger]

Oh

[haughty skiff]

not saying shinano over enty, just considering it for later content clears

ill toss the fleet recommendation into a comp so they can have a visual on what to do

[viscid swift]

gear research focus on PR5

[red hawk]

you were talking about bad map drop rates right

[viscid swift]

I get that but I think it's rather pointless to think abotu a 2nd fleet at this stage

when they're not even in CHaoter 9 yet and struggling to put together one decent fleet

[haughty skiff]

valid dw

[versed forum]

is it better to have a backline stopper or just use eldridge for opsi?

[viscid swift]

even in a few days with the event the situation can change drastically

[viscid swift]

yes, as I was saying though when I farmed 12-4 I payed to attention to the elite drops and I got Indianapolis and Unicorn? a lot more often than I did any of the starters

[red hawk]

oh I get Uni constantly in 12

[versed forum]

i just got eld item recently idk if her skill is reliable

[viscid swift]

and I don't know how many runs I did in 12-4 before switching to 12-1

[viscid swift]

she's good enough for most things

[hot tiger]

Is this gear good for right now

[red hawk]

I wish I had been smarter with copies earlier on, but all I can do at this point is just stop investing in stuff I don't need

[viscid swift]

absolutley not

[red hawk]

got baited by all that shiny gold stuff early on in atelier event

none of that gear is right

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[hot tiger]

What should I replace the gear with

[haughty skiff]

@hot tiger

Fleet; Only use 1 fleet.

Use the Quick Gear guide and re-equip your new fleet

[quaint tapir]

it's probably close to the worst possible purple gear you could pick that isn't totally irrelevant unfortunately

[red hawk]

avi items like the aviation oil tank, catapults for aux, helldivers for bombers and fighters you want the corsair

I know it seems a bit much and restrictive, but people here really know their stuff, rascal has given me tons of great advice, and gearing especially makes a big difference

[hot tiger]

I got hardy any good gear bro💀

[red hawk]

a single piece of blue gear helped me clear an entire chapter I was struggling with lol

[viscid swift]

you have a pair of F4u corsairs you can use

as well as a Helldiver for Enterprise

[red hawk]

you have some decent poverty gear

[haughty skiff]

Start by just unequipping all of your ships to make it mentally easier

Second you actually do have some good newbie gear; Helldivers, F4U Corsairs, Purple Toolkits, Purple Twin140mm, Hydraulic Steering and probably more on your ships

[hot tiger]

Ill make sure I do this

[red hawk]

this is my unicorn, with purples for the planes and AA

[haughty skiff]

Just reading through Zenker's wiki to see uh

[red hawk]

use the corsair in first slot, and helldiver in second

[haughty skiff]

she seems to want Twin140mm for fast barrage

[red hawk]

as opposed to the standard triple 406 for backline?

[hot tiger]

How do I get gold rammers fast?

[viscid swift]

I'm inclinded to say Mk6 for 90% of ships

especially since you get a +6 one for free

[quaint tapir]

i don't recall zenker's barrage being consistent enough to bother with a fast reload gun
better off just running the standard mk6

[haughty skiff]

usually Twin 140mm for barrage BBs and MK6 for shelling but it also depends

Zenker seems like she'd be fine w/ MK6

[soft raft]

those are steam catapults
which you can get the gold ones from any gold rarity box

[viscid swift]

we really need to get rid of that distinction

you don't use the 410 to get off more barrages in a battle, it's very much for timing

[hot tiger]

Teck packs?

[soft raft]

yeah

[haughty skiff]

in that case it seems niche & worse then MK6 generally; MK6 syncs up just fine w/ Helena's 20s scan on most ships

[soft raft]

that's cuz Helena's radar scan is designed to work with triple barrel guns

[haughty skiff]

also i thought newbies get a Twin 128mm but i don't see it in their depot

[fiery scroll]

Hi guys, how come i can somehow start off with one skill now, the middle one, what affects those skills?

[viscid swift]

what

[quaint tapir]

are you referring to a META ship?

[hot tiger]

I try to do research to get them

[soft raft]

like as in a ship's actual skills or the limit break screen?
because those are two different things

[fiery scroll]

i mean when u battling, the skills that u can click

Torpedo* (middle skill)

[soft raft]

those have no correlation to eachother at all
and those are also not called skills

[quaint tapir]

oh that's just pre-load

[viscid swift]

you don't get tech boxes from research missions

[red hawk]

it's based on the ships and equipment you have equipped, if you have one ship with torpedos. you have to have either carriers or backline main ships to fire salvos using the other on screen abilities

[soft raft]

it's your carrier airstrikes, DD/CA/CB/CL torpedo launches, and BB/BC salvos

[haughty skiff]

you mean your torpedos ?

you gain your salvos (leftmost) when your battleships / battlecruisers are ready to fire, based on their main gun's timings
you gain your airstrikes (rightmost) when your aircraft carriers are ready to fire, based on their planes

none of any relation to each other

[fiery scroll]

ah i see, so its the gear

[red hawk]

they're not actually abilities, it's your ships using their weapons, but skills are different, they're activated stat boosts and other effects that trigger on certain conditions

[viscid swift]

it's not gear

[soft raft]

it's the ships themselves

[viscid swift]

it's the ships themselves that determine whether you get preloads or not

[soft raft]

for example, some CVs can store up to two airstrikes or have preloads

[haughty skiff]

this also ^^

[red hawk]

also if your ship gets knocked out you lose access to that

so if you don't have one equipped or lose it in combat, you won't be able to use airstrikes/torpedos/salvos

[viscid swift]

you still get them even if you don't have anything equipped

the game slots ghost weapons into those slots if you don't

[hot tiger]

No I mean I can get parts to make gear via research

[fiery scroll]

where to see the preloads oO

[red hawk]

sorry, I didn't mean equipped that implies gear, I meant if you don't have a certain type slotted into your fleet, sorry

[viscid swift]

you mean gear upgrade plates?

[red hawk]

I think they're maybe talking the gear blueprints

[viscid swift]

check the ship's limit break perks on the wiki and occasionally their skills

[hot tiger]

This

[fiery scroll]

ahhhh okok i saw it, the limit break of the ship

[viscid swift]

you get those research missions in the research academy

you can slo buy gear prints from the prototype shop

again though, shouldn't be too concerned with research at this stage of the game

[red hawk]

yeah, you need to worry about getting a baseline before you worry about farming that stuff

I'm in world 12 rn and I'm just starting to be able to get enough BPs to make a few of those

[viscid swift]

you're trying to hop straight into the driver/engineer's seat without learning how the engine works first and such

[red hawk]

and they're all RNG based so it's not like you can even farm for the gear you need, so you should be trying to get the gear that's free/cheap to acquire

the gold gear isn't always better either, especially considering it costs more to upgrade

most of my ships are rocking basic purple gear and I'm nearly into 13

also, you want to make sure you don't spread out your plate investments on gear, because you will EAT through purple general plates and main gun plates

[versed forum]

is this good ships? uss cv's got power creep from what i hear

[viscid swift]

for what exactly

[versed forum]

light opsi

[viscid swift]

OpSi really isn't that difficult so sure

[red hawk]

hey rascal, you said something earlier about shinano needing something to go with her, what pairs up well with her? I was planning on using her for bossing with enty and hood

[viscid swift]

you ideally want 2 other IJN ships to activate her buffs

[red hawk]

Farm foxes and do a carrier fleet? lol

[viscid swift]

no

one almost by default is Kazagumo, for OpSi anyway

[red hawk]

convenient actually considering I just picked her up

[viscid swift]

the other would preferably be Amagi CV or Hakuryu but Shoukaku with her augment works as well

or wait to see what the new UR is

[red hawk]

I saved four UR bulins on my main, this is for my alt, I was just curious

I didn't invest in shinano on main, but I'm having fun with this one, so I wanted to know what I could look for

I planned on trying to pull and MLB the new UR day one if I get lucky

[haughty skiff]

shinano only meme alt ?

[opaque galleon]

Event reveals tomorrow?

[red hawk]

I have her on my main just didn't invest in her, because of the new UR event, I will be trying to get her maxed with my next set of UR bulins/pity exchange

[viscid swift]

in about 7 hours

[red hawk]

I want to use her on my main but I didn't want to waste the materials

[stark quiver]

What 7? I thought strim starts in 30m and 4h until showcase

[viscid swift]

the event stuff doesn't start until 5 AM EST

[stark quiver]

Hmm do I wanna wake up at 2 am

[barren token]

Am I making a mistake by using the FW190 at 13-4 mob? or would even a Seafang be a better choice

[stone sluice]

3am for me

[viscid swift]

which Fw-190

[barren token]

the new one, R1 A3

[stark quiver]

Yea I should probably be healthy

[viscid swift]

it carries no bombs so it has no surface damage

also not really that new

but yes, Hellcats, Corsairs, etc would be better

[eternal moth]

Livestream is tonight right?

Tonight/tomorrow morning?

[vale spindle]

yes

[fiery scroll]

btw, what does the Tier 1~3 for ships on limit break indicates? is it the same as the star Rarity? meaning is Tier 3 = Star Rarity 3?

[vale spindle]

rarity is the color of the ship (purple, gold, etc.)
the limit break corresponds to missing stars yes

[fiery scroll]

ah aite aite, thanks mate

[vale spindle]

lower rarity doesn't mean worse ship though keep that in mind

[red hawk]

especially early on there's a lot of value in rares because of their low investment cost, even if they are replacement level

[red hawk]

what's with the whole "some SR's literally give less fleet tech than blues"

it seems really off that I should get more and better fleet tech from a blue ship than an SR

[stark quiver]

game devs say so and we follow

[forest palm]

after a point it kind of congeals into one big soup

[analog phoenix]

How long does i่t take to get dev.30 ? (my plymouth at lv 24. Dev )

[forest palm]

roughly 4 ~ 6 months

[viscid swift]

bear in mind that ship displacement is vaguely a factor

[spark patio]

How long will the stream last? like EN one or ?

[forest palm]

mm it's gonna be long

[viscid swift]

from dev 24 that's around halfway so

1-2 months depending on where you are but

I'd honestley just wait until she gets coining and finish 7 and 8 at least first

[forest palm]

the streams are like 7 to 10 hours long and it's multiple streams

2 of which are live now

[stark quiver]

using f2p 12-1 methods, how long would it possibly take to get 60k commander xp

[red hawk]

I am unfamiliar with that term

[stark quiver]

one is a 40 minute and going recording to st louis figure spinning

[viscid swift]

how much water a ship displaces when they're in the water

[red hawk]

oh so it's literally about ship size

[stark quiver]

size and weight

[verbal plinth]

they change it every 1-2 hrs to a diff figure

[viscid swift]

the devs seem to have scaled tech points very roughly with ship displacement

[stark quiver]

interesting

[red hawk]

yeah when you said displacement I thought of water, but I wasn't confident it was what you meant

that's interesting, thanks for pointing that out I didn't know that one

[forest palm]

would it not be like 60,000/(59 x 7)?

[crisp raven]

actual ingame/event content should be about 2 hours, but the stream as a whole for the celebration has been 8 hours on 2 days. jp anni stream tends to be a massive celebration. ingame info should be today, but i dont have the schedule, if there was one.

[spark patio]

and one is just spinning St Louis

[red hawk]

is this game chinese or japanese

[viscid swift]

Chinese

[forest palm]

oh, wait right CMD XP gets halved after a point

[spark patio]

which one was the in game?

[stark quiver]

i do not know
but im at lvl 139

[vale spindle]

its in the description of the main stream i think

[red hawk]

that's what I thought, this is just a specific region anni?

[verbal plinth]

jp

[red hawk]

and the essex event was the EN one correct?

[vale spindle]

its jp anniversary but all new ships are added in all major versions

[stark quiver]

yes

[viscid swift]

no, the event will be released at the same time for everyone

[forest palm]

https://www.youtube.com/@azurlane_staff/streams

[red hawk]

so what do they do for CN anniversary?

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

in game stuff should be in a little over 6 hours

[crisp raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2OiGskEGDo assuming there will be a text channel opened in doscord too, stream will be posted there as well.

[viscid swift]

that was Lion's event

[vale spindle]

the game info is 6-8pm jp time i cannot time conversion

[viscid swift]

5-7 AM EST

[forest palm]

that's 5 ~ 7 EST

[crisp raven]

and yup, you were right, schedule is in the description. i dont wanna translate/convert either lol.

[vale spindle]

wow what shitty timing for me

[red hawk]

I watch F1 from america, have for years, I still can't ever remember simple time conversions, don't feel bad

[stark quiver]

are you also pst

[forest palm]

if your PST, CST, or MST ya

[red hawk]

are there any sort of interaction rewards for watching?

[vale spindle]

i am everywhere and nowhere at the same time

[verbal plinth]

prob not for us

[viscid swift]

only for JP

[stark quiver]

sam is a ghost

[vale spindle]

no they do like twitter giveaways or something thats basically it but they only ship within jp so if you don't live in jp you can't get it so

[stark quiver]

also is survey gone

[vale spindle]

i think so

[stark quiver]

oh fuck me i guess

[livid wyvern]

Alr I got the UR pity pull, should I get a copy of NJ or get the unobtained Vanguard/Ulrich

[red hawk]

I didn't know if they'd have like twitch rewards or codes for rewards during the stream like some games do, I know hoyo does livestream codes sometimes

[viscid swift]

the stream is on youtube and youtube only

[forest palm]

Japan is allergic to Twitch...

[vale spindle]

they did livestream codes during EN anniversary this year only but you could redeem those codes later so its not a big deal if you miss it live

[viscid swift]

there will be some giveaways but as I said, they'll be JP only

[red hawk]

I mean, twitch is owned by a terrible company but that's not for this channel

[vale spindle]

and im pretty sure they are server specific anyways so jp is just getting what EN got but later

[livid wyvern]

Obtaining and Limitbreaking yields tech points right?

[forest palm]

google is no better

[vale spindle]

they are streaming on twitter too

[viscid swift]

are they, huh

[stark quiver]

is shinano mlb?
if so, then id get vanguard

[livid wyvern]

Hmmm, do we know when the next Musashi banner is if she is coming back?

[viscid swift]

she already reran

[livid wyvern]

Shin is MLB

[livid wyvern]

I missed her?! Azur Lane is 21gb so I had to make room

[red hawk]

I have kron and vanguard on one of my accounts, which one should I MLB first?

[stark quiver]

with bulins? neither

[livid wyvern]

What's so good about Van if I may ask?

[vale spindle]

universal debuffs

[stark quiver]

but vanguard is a lot better than kron

[livid wyvern]

Like sure she's a UR and a top tier but so is like.. every other UR.

[red hawk]

just use pity pulls for vanguard dupes then?

[tulip ibex]

Have you guys received any rewards from this event yet?
I haven't received any.

[wind hazel]

no lol. UR isn't equal, unfortunately.

[livid wyvern]

She coming back or am I cooked?

[wind hazel]

she will be added to UR exchange soon

[viscid swift]

she'll be added to the perma pool in the next few months probably

[red hawk]

are there any UR's that are like... absolute dogwater even with gear and stuff?

[livid wyvern]

How soon if you know cause if so I'll just wait, I'm collecting the mofu's

[viscid swift]

Yes

[viscid swift]

we don't know

[wind hazel]

see if the current stream tell us about it lul

[crisp raven]

those are the websiter wishing well rewards. the 7th anni furniture set from the map havent been distributed yet

[eternal moth]

I'm surprised there's no chat channel for this live stream.

[stark quiver]

whats this

[tulip ibex]

I mean portown one, this one is wishing well.

[analog phoenix]

Does it take a long time to complete 100% BB tech ?

[stark quiver]

porttown isnt out for me

[stark quiver]

kinda

[wind hazel]

it can take some time

[viscid swift]

define long, it's what 100 ships roughly

[livid wyvern]

I mean considering there are guides to make even common ships viable for midgame, I'd say you'd be hardpressed to find a useless UR.

[viscid swift]

so takes a bit

[wind hazel]

useless UR no, but not worth investing UR, yes.

[tulip ibex]

You haven't get rewards too?

[stark quiver]

nope

[red hawk]

I didn't know if there were some that were just bad because dated/mechanics changed and they didn't get updated or anything like that

[eternal moth]

Oh right, To Love 3 collab coming later this year

[livid wyvern]

Some UR's are better than others, as is the natural way of gacha's.

[wind hazel]

WHAT

[viscid swift]

What

[eternal moth]

They just showed it on the livestream

[stark quiver]

Qué

[viscid swift]

the fuck

[wind hazel]

... that's recap

[crisp raven]

that was the memory recap

[viscid swift]

ok that makes more sense

[crisp raven]

but i havce more faith for a successful to love rerun than another atelier collab

[viscid swift]

why would it even to be to love ru 3, we haven't got 2 yet

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, right, that was last year wasn't it

[stark quiver]

i infact cannot understand anything theyre saying
also mafia is buff af

[wind hazel]

ikr, we dont even have Azur Lane 2

[viscid swift]

alpha, may I introduce you to the concept of subtitles and google translate

[red hawk]

I don't even play atelier and I honestly really enjoyed the collab event, but that may just be because it was my first "event" in this game

[viscid swift]

that's how I get all the actual information from the streams

[wind hazel]

just watch animu and learn japanese

[red hawk]

have you seen some of the generated translations and subtitles on some of these channels?

[stark quiver]

you dont say

[eternal moth]

My bad, sorry. Thought the icon at the end was a 3

[viscid swift]

oh well, wait until after the stream then

[forest palm]

is the St. Louise statue still spining

[stark quiver]

im just gonna make up my own dialogue

[vale spindle]

watch my favorite bilingual streamer jimmy

[forest palm]

just lean Japanese

[viscid swift]

Jimmy's streaming this on youtube?

[vale spindle]

unfortunately no

[viscid swift]

ah well

ALM it is because I'm setting up twitch at 5 AM

[vale spindle]

doesn't he also simulstream on youtube

[viscid swift]

all get all the actual information after the stream

because lord knows no one with any presence actually gets everything

[spark patio]

now it was Kashino

[soft raft]

Holy balls 4 AM 💀

[obtuse island]

apparently they delayed it

[tulip ibex]

I see, thanks

[undone zinc]

How do i add or change fleets in OpSi

[wind hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[undone zinc]

Change as in change girls from said fleet but not to trade them between fleets

[undone zinc]

Ohhh

[spare harbor]

do i invest in uvh or shinano next

[wind hazel]

define invest

with UR bulin, neither. choosing which ship/duplicate to get from UR exchange, shinano

[ocean pilot]

which PR7 ship i should dev30 first? i can only do 1 instant dev30 right now

[clever valley]

how good is Bayard? thanks to the previous event i can now start her dev

[clear harbor]

Is there a way to figure out where Daily Missions in OpSi will spawn? I had a few last month that spawned deep in difficult territory and it took me a while to get to them.

[clear harbor]

This should be a command. It took me a while to figure this out.

[rain vine]

its completely random

[wind hazel]

strong and tanky CL with fs5

[clever valley]

kk ty

[hollow gust]

When is stream anyway

[wind hazel]

now

game news is few hours later

[clever valley]

is le hardi a torp or FP focused DD? im not sure how to tell the difference

[winged mauve]

anyone know whats causing the notif badge on HQ?

is this a known issue or just me lol

[wind hazel]

check your medal collection

go inside academy section

[winged mauve]

doesnt seem like its that

[wind hazel]

[winged mauve]

weirds

[stark quiver]

gun

[clever valley]

ty, is there how do i tell a torp vs gun dd apart? is there an icon on the ship page or?

[civic prairie]

Maybe it ask u to upgrade canteen or something

[stark quiver]

no

[winged mauve]

maxed

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships/id/701
usually told with base stats, efficiencies, mounts, skills

[clever valley]

ah so because her slot 1 (gun) effec is higher than slot 2 (torp) shes a gun focused kk

[wind hazel]

well not exactly like that...

[clear harbor]

Can I change the Dossier Meta Boss? or do I have to complete the progression for the one I selected first?

I can't figure my way around the Dossier UI. Last night I accidentally started a boss battle. 🤣

[stark quiver]

thats one
but you also need to read into their skills, look at base stats

[clear harbor]

I figured it out! Do I keep my progress with the first ship I started?

[wind hazel]

yes

[umbral wadi]

When does the ur event build start???

[wet prairie]

Jp stream is today, event starts next maintenance cycle

[umbral wadi]

Know when that is?

[wet prairie]

Should be this week iirc (as in coming week)

[wind hazel]

next Friday

[umbral wadi]

Oooo Ty!

[wet prairie]

Jp stream should be in a 5 hours yes?

[wind hazel]

it's live, game news section is ~5hrs away yes

[wet prairie]

Bruh

[lucid solstice]

I don't know if you were able to figure it out, but I think it has something to do with the Private Quarters. I went in there and checked through everything and it went away

[warped acorn]

does enty or essexkai deal more dmg with same equip and lv

[forest palm]

Essex is going to be more consistent

[stark quiver]

enty with owarida procced does more damage

[warped acorn]

damn

[vagrant harness]

w15 strictly requires lv 125 ships??

[forest palm]

Again that's if you get 100% proc rate, so Essex is the better consistent option

[stark quiver]

no

[sweet delta]

I know it's possible with an average level of 43

But that's out of reach for the average player

[chilly birch]

Does anyone have the link for the livestream for when it starts?

[wind hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2OiGskEGDo

few hours until game news

[chilly birch]

Thank you

[remote yarrow]

Game news in 3:30 hrs

[chilly birch]

JP livestream is so long, especially compared to EN. Will there be an event livestream chat here on discord?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[elfin hollow]

What's the OpSi speed farming fleet comp, and how fast does it end battles? Related question: did Bois Belleau affect the comp?

[verbal plinth]

if you have lion no

saw a post in cn that said its a stand in for lion if you dont got but idk for sure

[elfin hollow]

Oh is the speed farming comp actually for C1? I know about the C1 fleer using Lion, but is there one for C3/C5?

[stark quiver]

lion + 5

[fiery scroll]

Hi Guys, for sortie, how to just auto proceed even tho the mood and exhaustion is there? I want to not look and have it all auto instead of clicking confirm for it to proceed

[verbal plinth]

you cant

[fiery scroll]

Dang it….

[stark quiver]

i use this for everything

[verbal plinth]

thats bad ships are getting 50% xp

[stark quiver]

does battles in c1/3 in like 3 seconds
c5 takes longer

[elfin hollow]

Alright then, thanks. I thought there needed to be some staggered damage, guess stacking preloads work

[stark quiver]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1uW421R7r3/?spm_id_from=333.788.player.switch&p=2

c1 ultra gaming

[verbal plinth]

tbh if your doing c1 just level ships there lol

free xp is free xp

[tawdry maple]

why is the gold IJN 127 54 gunpowder?

the stats doesn't justify UR gear cost, right?

[haughty skiff]

just asking realquick; farming C1 is so you can get the Akashi store and in theory earn more AP then you lose, right ?

[verbal plinth]

its really rng

[haughty skiff]

does the auto searching stop if Akashi spawns once it clears all or will i need to step in

[haughty skiff]

i figured, i just want to farm AP if possible so i can just grind the fuck outta OPSI this month

[stark quiver]

It is in theory correct that you would get more than you spend

[verbal plinth]

give it a go while your not grinding events or 12-4

[stark quiver]

But one must know the consequences of theoretical gambling

[golden moth]

How good is the rat aa gun btw.

.also curious what anniv did sushi released?

[stark quiver]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19P3KPrgOrzCySoUrjDZgsfqJsCpJCyb9XmmSKozVzbw/edit?usp=sharing
someone made a guide that has c1 strat

[stark quiver]

Best UR aa gun
Iirc 2022 September

[golden moth]

Uh is it the 4th anni of jp al?

[stark quiver]

I recalled correctly
And idk

[golden moth]

Thanks for the answers for the rat gun and for sushi release

[haughty skiff]

Yeah i read it just a part of me is like 'i hope im doing it right' lmao

so C1 grind is basically the only way to get positive AP gains ?

[wind hazel]

doing hiddens often lead to positive AP too but it's not farmable

[stark quiver]

Even if I listed it in the guide, I’ve personally quit c1 after going 3 mo the straight of ultra negative

[wind hazel]

[verbal plinth]

yeah you can go super dry

scam cat not having ap

[haughty skiff]

valid; hiddens being ? my understanding of opsi is so limited

[stark quiver]

It’s also in the guide ♿

[verbal plinth]

done some light c1

[wind hazel]

hidden=yellow treasure box

[haughty skiff]

i see

i was about to rephrase but yeah, i just didnt know what 'hidden' was

istg opsi melts my brain

[stark quiver]

Same

[haughty skiff]

i feel like im wasting AP boxes just clearing the hidden sections of the map / just playing it in general

[wind hazel]

you're not

[verbal plinth]

you need coins anyway

and they have chances on prints/items for crafting gear

[plain saffron]

it's for the mats

[haughty skiff]

yeah; i just need to run it down and just play it istg

[stark quiver]

I mean what else are you gonna spend the coins on

[haughty skiff]

huh ?

oh like

i fear im wasting AP since i also have loggers / cords but i have so

so many and surely not all of them are worth the 200 AP / per run

[plain saffron]

they all worth the AP

[wind hazel]

it's simple.

open enough AP box to finish dailies

open more if needed, either

1. do C1 to farm more AP
2. do your hiddens

open more AP box if needed to do abyssals, stronghold
open remaining AP box to repeat c3/c5

this is assuming you finished exploration

[haughty skiff]

is there a gif for figuring out where my current dailies are ? not like the ones i can get but the ones i have accepted ?

[wind hazel]

it's under information tab

in sortie so i cant show

[haughty skiff]

ty ; found it, i always forget where it is

and exploration as in 5* every sector or just unlocking every sector ?

[plain saffron]

cleared explorable of all zones

[wind hazel]

turning dark maps into blue maps

[haughty skiff]

ty

[steady vigil]

are we expecting hvar cat to be available soon?

[stark quiver]

No

[exotic vine]

why i dont get any point even i have used helena re to sortie

[robust onyx]

Because the actual event hasn't started yet

[exotic vine]

oh i hadnt noticed that

[robust onyx]

It's only the experience boosting phase for set characters

[clever valley]

I only have helena so its probably going to take me the entire period to finish the mission

[robust onyx]

Or mlb all event characters and get any meta or UR character

[plain saffron]

phase 1 is exp bonus to listed ships
phase 2 is MLB all new event ship(or get for UR) this is enough to get the frame, but there's extra missions that use the ships from phase 1, it's something like "use helena in B3, must be in boss fleet and not die"

[clever valley]

Ah kk

[bright rose]

How do I know which ship is eagle union

[plain saffron]

they have USS at front

[bright rose]

Ah thanks

[plain saffron]

though the prefix only show up in the detail page really

easier to go to dock and use the filter

[wind hazel]

use dock filter

[rapid summit]

Who to replace? They both have 4K power at world 10

[spark patio]

should i grind coins then spend on Saint Louis or grind for the next UR?

[wind hazel]

nobody, stop looking at power. it's a useless metric

which ship is tanking for this vanguard?

[rapid summit]

Roon

[wind hazel]

you can use otto as main tank, if roon is equal or lower level. or it doesn't matter if it's working for you

i feel like it's all ironblood, so do whatever you want

[rapid summit]

Roon has double her hp

[rapid summit]

Well not exactly…enterprise is there too

[wind hazel]

hp isnt the only factor for tanking...

[rapid summit]

Like skills (those shield things?)

[wind hazel]

yes look at otto's blue skill, and you'll realize she has a lot of evasion skill

/ehp

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

List of vanguard ships by tankiness by mebot

[wind hazel]

you can check otto vs roon's ehp difference, roughly, from this list

but again depending on where you use this fleet, if they arent sinking then you can keep it as it is. as long as it's working out for you

[spark patio]

guys what should i do now

[rapid summit]

Roon gets to like 10-20% of her hp before she dies

[wind hazel]

stock up on coin

[rapid summit]

She kept dying on 10-1 but not now

[wind hazel]

then you should fix the fleet. is unicorn part of the fleet?

but im also watching the stream so maybe i'll help later

[rapid summit]

No

[rapid summit]

The al stream on?

[wind hazel]

#jp-8th-anniversary-livestream-discussion

[wind hazel]

unicorn should always be in your mobbing fleet if you're pushing in campaign

[rapid summit]

Yamato announcement by any chance?

Nvm that’s a legend

[rapid summit]

fdg perfect for mobbing fleet in campaigns then?

[eternal moth]

Musashi's generally better, and you typically want a second CV instead of a second BB

[wind hazel]

if at least dev30 yes

[rapid summit]

I don’t got Musashi I am waiting for her tho

[rapid summit]

She’s 27

[eternal moth]

Get her to 30 before using her then

Next UR is a carrier apparently.

[rapid summit]

When is she coming out?

[eternal moth]

Thursday

[wind hazel]

hahahahahaha greygoose

[rapid summit]

Okk ty

[wind hazel]

this is why i said dont be overconfident and wait for stream

[vivid nebula]

Hi. What causes siren strongholds to spawn in opsi?

[wind hazel]

monthly and weekly reset.

[vivid nebula]

Ah so they are timed?

[eternal moth]

Every Monday you get one

[vivid nebula]

Thanks. I am trying to buyout the store and the strongholds give a ton of tokens

[eternal moth]

You can only see, I think, 2 at one time, but you'll always get the full amount

[rapid summit]

Is world 11 easier than world 10
And is world 12 easier than 10 and 11?

[wind hazel]

12 is easier, but 11 is harder than 10

[vivid nebula]

W12 hurts you with planes

W10 and W11 with burn

[eternal moth]

Chapter 11 might require dual BB to kill all the suicide boats if you aren't really strong

[vivid nebula]

Personally I found W12 to be much easier than 10 and 11 and that was pre sandy retro

[wind hazel]

it can be, yes

[rapid summit]

Will the planes need me to use anti air defense or something?

[vivid nebula]

Yes

You need relatively high AA for W12 lethal runs

[wind hazel]

aaaaaaand double UR dont be overconfidennntttttttt
-# tho it's a sub

[viral solar]

is any of the story in ba voiced?

[molten zinc]

UR sub

[vivid nebula]

Sandy retro or regular, reno, isuzu, etc. You have plenty of choices tbh

[molten zinc]

wtf even going on

[eternal moth]

Take it to #jp-8th-anniversary-livestream-discussion

[rapid summit]

I got 1762

[frank phoenix]

prinz eugen or roon for vanguard?

[vivid nebula]

Roon

I have massive bias

[slow fox]

Do you want a tankier ship?

Get Eugen.

[frank phoenix]

have both,but idk who to focus on 1st

btw,we getting 2 new sakura CV UR's at once?

[vivid nebula]

Eugen's lack of damage is kinda bad tho

[north gorge]

CV and SSV

[vivid nebula]

Roon can mop up enemies relatively quickly whilst having beefy HP and good shields

Also roon has a siren damage bonus for opsi

[slow fox]

But your main source of damage is usually the backline anyways-

[vivid nebula]

A little bit more from the vanguard doesnt hurt either

[eternal moth]

People always see CV on JP announcement and think it means carrier, but it's actually voice actor.

They use kanji for ship classes instead.

[vivid nebula]

Besides, if Roon can even remotely get close to being sunk, there's problems elsewhere in the comp at that point

[frank phoenix]

it's the only thing written in english instead scratch marks

[vivid nebula]

What dev lvl is your roon beloo?

[frank phoenix]

i think 19/30

[vivid nebula]

OK THAT CHANGES THINGS

[frank phoenix]

if that's what you ask,haven't logged in yet

[vivid nebula]

Uh whats your eugen at? LVL wise

[frank phoenix]

just got her like 2 days ago,eguen is around lvl 60 iirc

[dusty pier]

shd I oath for stat buffs or ust anyone u like?

[frank phoenix]

+-,hold

[vivid nebula]

Okayyyt I probably shouldve asked about that first before making recommendations...

[frank phoenix]

imma log in and show u what i got for now

[eternal moth]

Are you planning to spend money on the game?

[dusty pier]

nop as of now

[vivid nebula]

Roon becomes serviceable at dev 25 iirc. At least, thats when I personally started using her

[eternal moth]

Then whoever you like.

[vivid nebula]

That was years ago though so I don't really remember all too well rn

[soft raft]

that's cuz by that point all research ships get all of their bulk
they still lack the last missing bit of damage and other parts of their kit prior to D30

[eternal moth]

Personally, if you only have the free rings, I'd recommend giving them to someone with an oath skin, but it's up to you.

[frank phoenix]

so this one's a sub ig? :c

f

[wind hazel]

SSV

[north gorge]

SSV and is the free one

[eternal moth]

Technically sub carrier, in this case.

[vivid nebula]

Wonder how the meta will get shaken up

[soft raft]

ayo a I400 class?

[eternal moth]

Probably won't IMO

[north gorge]

I-404

[eternal moth]

She can't be used in META fights after all

[vivid nebula]

Think the CV will be any good?

[ashen saffron]

soo what do i get with the gems ( aka what do i buy )

[north gorge]

Would be weird for it to not be since it's a UR

[vivid nebula]

I am holding my UR bullins for now. If they aren't too remarkable, I'll continue with building up amagi and zwei

[vivid nebula]

What does your dock and dorm look like rn?

[frank phoenix]

Frontline isn't rly set,just keep putting random "usable" ships or specific faction for research xp

[vivid nebula]

For dorm you want 3 slots and both floors unlocked. For dock, that depends how you play tbh.

[soft raft]

Stick with Hood/Unicorn/Essex Portland/your starter DD/Helena

you currently lack the resources to invest in more than 2 SRs much less a UR

[vivid nebula]

When you d25 roon, you can replace portland with her

[eternal moth]

Type /gems into #bot-spam

[vivid nebula]

This next event might bankrupt me

[ashen saffron]

here

[vivid nebula]

Resource dep't not looking good

[vivid nebula]

Personally? I'd buy the 3rd dorm slot and unlock the 2nd floor and spend the leftovers on dock space. Don't immediately do this yet, I kinda wanna hear what the other have to say

Thats also considering you havent fully bought out the 1st floor's space

[silk sphinx]

that's the recommended approach

obv first unlock all of 1st floor with dorm coins

[vivid nebula]

Ok thats good to know that I didn't feed him misinformation

[ashen saffron]

ty for the help to both of you

[vivid nebula]

Genuine question but do you all dump your pulls on day 1 of the event or do you roll every day to capitalize on the daily pull mission?

[silk sphinx]

rolling every day is technically more efficient

but hey if you push all to last day you can miss certain ships if you didn't farm enough

[vivid nebula]

Yeah I figured thats why I asked. I am super impulsive so I nuke my reserves on day 1

[silk sphinx]

so just plan ahead a bit.
personally for people who are rich, and don't care about the relatively small gains in efficiency then feel free to dump

personally i go all in day 1 so I can build up the ship early

[vivid nebula]

I am not rich. I have just about enough to hard pity XD

[vivid nebula]

This. I need to grind the levels up so I want them as early as possible

[silk sphinx]

well think about this way. pulling every day means

1. Get +300 event currency per day from building mission
2. Simultaneously finish daily build mission (save 1 cube/day)

[vivid nebula]

Yeah

[frank phoenix]

What resources? Ig the bullin for the UR's,but what ab the SSR

[silk sphinx]

kind of same, each SR needs 4 bulins to mlb and sanfran/prinz heinrich aren't too worth it

[soft raft]

bullins in general

[frank phoenix]

Tbh I would replace Hood for some other Eagle union carrier( if the game would be generous enough to finally give me Enterprise finally)

[soft raft]

What no

you would replae Essex with Enterprise
Triple Carrier only works in w13

keep in mind that carriers have somewhere between jack shit and bumfuck nothing in regards to suicide boat interception

[silk sphinx]

you do want one bb at least, and hood's plenty good esp w/ augment

[frank phoenix]

Enterprise better then Essex retro?

[soft raft]

Hood is also very good for a beginner BB after unique aug

[soft raft]

do you look anywhere close to retrofitting Essex retro?
and even then, Enterprise is still up there with the UR CVs if she can get her skill to proc enough times

[frank phoenix]

This is how 90% of my DMG charts look

[soft raft]

🆗

[silk sphinx]

bye the way, rookie missions are no longer available right?

[soft raft]

the old ones? Yeah
there's new ones that replaced them

the Hood/Enty/Illustrious/Sandy selector got yeeted for NJ/Shinano

[silk sphinx]

yeah was about to mention that

[frank phoenix]

I still haven't 3 starred a lot of hard stages so I could retro her in a week or so if I spend the attempts there

[silk sphinx]

well hey enterprise is still available in medal shop at least

[frank phoenix]

Idk if it's worth it tho,still no enterprise tho

[spare harbor]

k thx
do i save bulin for limited ur then

[frank phoenix]

Haven't seen her xD

[silk sphinx]

selection of available hull classes for medal shop changes each month

you'll just have to hope the next one has CVs

[soft raft]

It's not really about limited UR or not, but it's more like about the specific URs that you have in question

but most of the time it does indeed end up being limited URs first then the perament ones

[wind hazel]

yes, save them for Hakuhou next Friday 👍🏼

[spare harbor]

ok done thx

[soft raft]

And it's always MLB or bust in regards to limit breaking URs, otherwise you'll always be playing catch-up with multiple non-MLB Urs

[eternal moth]

Next Thursday, but yeah

[spare harbor]

also i just unlocked siren where are the meta fights

are they the red thing in the middle of the map

[soft raft]

No that's the Arbiter fight

[eternal moth]

You need to get 100 data first

[spare harbor]

ok got it

[wind hazel]

Maintenance is on friday for some reason based on cn jp patch notes

[eternal moth]

Oh, so it is. Weird.

[frank phoenix]

Why did nobody tell me ab this

[plain saffron]

because it's not that useful

[frank phoenix]

Increased XP isn't useful?

The thing I'm lacking the most is XP for my ships

Can't even do my commissions cuz I have 4/6 requiring a lvl 100 ship xD

[wind hazel]

it's only useful if you happen to grind PR exp that require her faction

outside of that, use better ships

[silk sphinx]

i mean, it goes up to 15% max... sure you might get that on two other carriers in addition to herself, but once you've finished Houshou you're losing out on 100% worth of ship exp

[plain saffron]

it's not worth user her just for the sake of the exp bonus
using 6 ships you want to lvl is better that 5 ship you want to lvl + her

unless you want to lvl her

[eternal moth]

At least Houshou gives, I think, RLD?

[silk sphinx]

like
use Houshou: get +15% on two ships you want to farm for, but have to also farm Houshou

[plain saffron]

even then only until you max lvl her

[silk sphinx]

once you've 120'd Houshou it's no longer worth

[eternal moth]

Yeah

[trim path]

if you want to min-max exp gain, i think you get +20% at 120+ morale

[silk sphinx]

well ultimately it's not a bad skill, feel free to use a triple carrier fleet when farming Houshou

[frank phoenix]

I'm capped from progressing to chapter 8 cuz I need lvl 60,so I'm just spamming war archives/hard stages

Most of my battles is just Massena lawn mowing everything and unicorn doing the same,the rest of the fleet just existing

[viral solar]

Is any of the story voiced????

[frank phoenix]

Might as well get extra xp

[plain saffron]

if you're new using her is not a good idea

because you won't use her in actual hard fight

it's better to lvl 6 ship you'll use to progress instead of 5 ship you'll actually use + her(that you won't use)

[plain saffron]

nope

basically you get 30% more but lose 100%

[frank phoenix]

Don't have that many useful ships yet,waiting with building until new UR banner

[plain saffron]

there's good ships that's permanent

[frank phoenix]

Sadly I started like a week after Alasce banner

Ik,that's why I'm waiting

Did a few pulls until I got Massena then stopped

[plain saffron]

i mean as in no need to gacha and not UR

[frank phoenix]

Didn't get the elf sadly,Bleus idk what xD

[slender inlet]

What file should i play in war archive, i need good gears for my bbs and dds

[soft raft]

Much like with campaign and event stages, you don't grind WA for the gear

[plain saffron]

usually people do War archive for ship drops, like getting KMS tech points

[soft raft]

It's mainly used as a source of tech points, especially Divergent Chessboard

[plain saffron]

farming gear there is painful, unless it's the 2 aux that's guaranteed

[slender inlet]

Oh

[plain saffron]

if you need gears do research and open tech boxes

[soft raft]

Farming gear from map drops in general is painful when you can get fully useable copies from tech boxes

[frank phoenix]

That's lvl 60+ stuff,right ?

[silk sphinx]

i don't think in this day and age there's ever any point to farm war archives (very niche use case of pre-oil cap chapters). There's only two gear pieces unique to war archives and they're not that interesting (sidegrades to toolbox and rudder)

the war archive ships, except say perhaps the ones you get from divergent chessboard for IB tech points, are obtained with less hassle through pvp/merit
having to farm the last stage 60 times is quite a lot. That said, assuming you're relatively new; seydlitz is a standard feature in pvp, with temporary invulnerability, even in top level fleets. Other than her, the only one that might see some use is jda, but nowadays eldridge is better
duke of york was a fairly common replacement for those without vanguard, but nowadays she's evidently competing with all the other UR BBs that have been coming; Duke of york serves to enhance the damage inflicted by your other ships.
Chikuma can serve as a tank that could slightly enhance your plane fleets in opsi anyways, supposing i were new, and considering eldridge retrofit item is rerunning soon, the only one of some use (if you pvp) is seydlitz

[frank phoenix]

I ain't reading that star wars inteo

[plain saffron]

you can do research pretty early i forgot that lvl

[silk sphinx]

copy paste from a previous wa prompt

[frank phoenix]

I think it's 60 for weapons, and some other stuff as well

[silk sphinx]

always 60

[frank phoenix]

Lot of stuff locked behind lvl 60

Even chapter 8 is locked xD

[plain saffron]

wait research need lvl60? the pr ship research

[elder lily]

Omg a UR sub

[frank phoenix]

No,PR ships are 35 iirc

Or 30,something like that

[plain saffron]

so not lvl 60

[silk sphinx]

no i meant, 60 times to farm wa

[plain saffron]

ouh

[silk sphinx]

for pr it's 10, 30, 50 and 70 i think

[frank phoenix]

Ships ye,but weapon and idk what else ye,even some daily/weekly stages

[plain saffron]

what?

[silk sphinx]

not sure if there even is a 50 might be delulu

[frank phoenix]

U don't have enough tech points for most ship research anyway

[plain saffron]

no i'm talking the research, the research, the one that gives ship bp and equip bp

that one is also source of gear and doesn't need lvl60

[wind hazel]

research academy

[plain saffron]

context

[frank phoenix]

U talking ab this,right?

[elder lily]

Must be a sign

[plain saffron]

no

[wind hazel]

no that is shipyard

[elder lily]

I'm going to buy the skin

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way

[plain saffron]

this

[frank phoenix]

Ahhhh, that one

[elder lily]

Oh yeah

[frank phoenix]

30 I think

Or even 40

[elder lily]

So I'm planning on doing the main campaign I've been procrastinating on

What's a good place to stop

[frank phoenix]

The end?

[soft raft]

12-1/12-4

[elder lily]

Oh thanks

[eternal moth]

Next collab is Date A Live? Never heard of it.

[plain saffron]

[frank phoenix]

Date a live Collab?

[elder lily]

Wait when's the Collab?

[frank phoenix]

Kurumi go brrr?

[soft raft]

Prob November

[plain saffron]

prob november like usual

[elder lily]

Didn't we finish yumia like not long ago?

[eternal moth]

I don't think they gave a date but yeah, some time in November

[plain saffron]

btw it's an anime

[eternal moth]

I figured.

[frank phoenix]

Do we know who we getting ?

[soft raft]

We'll find out closer to November

[elder lily]

Damn my cubes are like low af

Now there's the JP anniversary

[plain saffron]

nope

[elder lily]

And the collab

[viscid swift]

Collab probably won't be till November as we said

[elder lily]

Yeah but I have like 100+ cubes
And the anniversary is coming

[frank phoenix]

We getting sum stuff for anniv here ?

[elder lily]

[plain saffron]

skip october event then

[plain saffron]

we got ours last month