gameplay-help

[red hawk]

should I be saving and composing iris boxes

if I see them in merit or other shops

[bright rose]

Are the super rare in 3-4 worth grinding for

[viscid swift]

no

[bright rose]

Fair

[viscid swift]

you can't craft them into higher rarity boxes

[quaint tapir]

if you enjoy wasting time and oil, sure

[red hawk]

so what's the point of them

[bright rose]

I already wasted 2000 oil

[viscid swift]

you need them for crafting stuff from the French and Italian poritons of the gear lab

[red hawk]

ahh so don't dump their blues

[fiery scroll]

Guys, I keep dying at 2-3, what should I do... Is there a place for farming exp? Do I manually play? Or just use auto

[viscid swift]

use the newbie fleet for one
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

also I said to limit break your ships

[fiery scroll]

So use the universal burin?

[fiery scroll]

I am using the Z23

[dusty pier]

You limit break it using the universal bulin

[viscid swift]

you're not using Unicorn, or Helena, or Portland, or Pennsylvania

[soft raft]

Yes
that's the entire point of universal bullins

[fiery scroll]

ah... i totally skipped that part, thanks mate !

[spice phoenix]

any tips for 13-3 and 13-4 hard mode? (specifically the boss node)

my carriers keep getting detected even with good aa. should i get more fighters on my carriers or will that severely hinder dps?

[wind hazel]

why arent you using fighters to begin with

[viscid swift]

it's a DPS among other things

[wind hazel]

what are you using? your team i mean

[viscid swift]

Realistically, you wanna kill Taiho in around a minute or the plane damage really starts to add up

[sweet delta]

Use more BBs as long as they're good BBs and you stay on Air Supremacy

[red hawk]

so I'm starting to craft gear but am still not 100% on it's proper useage, what ships should get upgraded DD guns first?

I made a couple of the gold twin 128's and was wondering who to give them to first

[viscid swift]

your vanguards with the best gun damage

very crude but simple way to comapre is FP stat times main gun efficiency times number of main gun mounts

[red hawk]

that's a crude assessment of my ships damage?

[viscid swift]

main gun damage

[red hawk]

I guess im not seeing main gun efficiency?

[wind hazel]

can refer to wiki for easier visual

because ingame info suck ass when you wanna search for mgm

[red hawk]

yeah I was looking at the base page and not the gear page

[spice phoenix]

nakhi, soyuz, amagi cv

with mostly w15 oriented gear

[wind hazel]

vanguard?

[spice phoenix]

guam, plymouth, hinden with some speed and eva gears and hp

[viscid swift]

well Guam isn't taking care of AA on her own

[wind hazel]

swap out hinden

[spice phoenix]

which ca do i replace her with then?

[bright tusk]

What good ships for AP BB fleet vanguard? I feel the current vanguard squishy and easily dies at opsi bosses

[wind hazel]

good question. do you have laffey2 instead? or z52. looking at fleet 1

[stark quiver]

Got lion?

[bright tusk]

yes

[wind hazel]

i dont remember whether cheshire is good or not since damage kinda 📈

or maybe you can try this

or this

[stark quiver]

Replace Soyuz with lion and lion flag, replace hinden with z52

[bright tusk]

thank you

[noble pawn]

Do we get Unzen event build rerun? Or just minor event for her?

[stark quiver]

Z52 tank btw

[viscid swift]

what

[ivory pawn]

Rerun later, sometime after new event.

[noble pawn]

<@&1321001507495346216> https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1962545987651612882

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN)

【Prelude Event】

Call to Arms: Amahara, a prelude event, will be available from September 4th! Earn extra experience by sortieing with Helena, Zuikaku, Akagi, Unzen, and Houshou META to prepare for the upcoming major event.

Stay tuned!

#AzurLane #Yostar

X · Sep 1, 2025, 4:00 PM

[wind hazel]

sir, that's a new UR event

[viscid swift]

that's just the event prelude

[noble pawn]

Oh okay

[ivory pawn]

That's completely unrelated to Unzen besides the bonus exp btw.

[viscid swift]

5 ships get +20% XP for a week

[noble pawn]

Okay

[stark quiver]

Which 5

[wind hazel]

mutsuki and co

[rain night]

is sakura summons the new UR?

[wind hazel]

no

[rain night]

what is this limited gear

[wind hazel]

a new limited gear...

[rain night]

is that rainbgow or gold

[ivory pawn]

Just a piece of random gear that'll probably be +HP and a random effect.

[viscid swift]

we dont know other than its name

[wind hazel]

could be purple

[viscid swift]

probably is, we'll know what it is in a few hours

[north elbow]

is this a new event?

[vale spindle]

yes

JP Stream is on friday stay tuned for more information then

if not friday sometime on the weekend i forgot

[stark quiver]

saturday

[silk helm]

is that when the new UR gets announced?

[north elbow]

is there a clue on who it is

[viscid swift]

no

[forest palm]

No datamine yet?

[viscid swift]

not yet

[vale spindle]

probably won't be one today but we will see ™

[forest palm]

[north elbow]

looks Imperial themed so im guessing amagi 3

[soft raft]

[wind hazel]

true

[opaque galleon]

Uh, it’s probably a single UR event with a Sakura empire vanguard ship, though past trends have proven unreliable as a basis for predicting future content

[stark quiver]

its probably gonna be a ship and a UR one

[fiery scroll]

Hi guys, bulin wise, how come there's no material for my Helena?

[haughty skiff]

You need to enable the 'LVL >1' but you really dont need to limit break just yet

Also do make sure to read the newbie guide- pickup Portland as well from the Guild shop

[ivory pawn]

Tap this button, top right.

[haughty skiff]

I'll just link the entire guide here but just some keynotes; @fiery scroll

rarity doesn't equal good & this applies to gear and shipgirls; don't waste gold bulins & don't split bulins between characters (it is better to fully limit break one ship instead of 4 ships with one limit break)

do not waste gems. do not use the combat data packs, analyse them instead.

you only need 1 fleet right now so it's best to use a full fleet of 6 to get through the campaign, you should use the following;

https://azurlaneecgc.com/

[haughty skiff]

pennsylvania (flagship) / unicorn / long island
portland (front) / helena (middle) / z23 (back)

you can purchase from the guild shop again in 2 days, so it's best to wait and buy 2 copies of Unicorn & Portland to save on bulins

you can replace long island for saratoga from 4-1 who is a much better carrier overall

[rain night]

Is saratoga not just good in general

[ivory pawn]

Good for mobbing with retrofit and aug.

[rain night]

Her retro is pretty cheap

Its quite nice

[eternal moth]

Amaharu is land of the gods, which could point to Yamato, but I doubt she's coming this year. My guess is some paper vangaurd

[haughty skiff]

she's good for her staggered damage due to the barrage skill with investment

once you get aquila or independence retro she just loses her slot on the mob fleet generally, but those are much later

[rain night]

Is independence better

For mobbing

[eternal moth]

Indep is faster, I think Sara does a bit more damage.

Whichever you make first is typically the one you'll stick with.

[haughty skiff]

indep is faster and buffs your boss fleet, so she's just more valuable then sara in later stages

aquila is well, aquila

[arctic snow]

whats the best map for gold farming again? i know its in one of the many spreadsheets but i cant seem to find which. i already got all xp for PR ship, just missing a bit of gold for hull construction

[rain night]

Where do you get aquila

[stark quiver]

special pool perma banner

[viscid swift]

Monarch's augment

Skill Enhancement
King's Sleep +
At the start of battle, your FP and hit increase by 1.0% (10.0%). During battle, when your main gun fires, there is a 50.0% (100%) chance to fire a special barrage +Lv.1 (Lv.10) in front of you (barrage bullets are enhanced, and the power and barrage type depend on the skill level). Enemies hit by the special barrage + are slowed by 30.0% (60%) for the next 6 seconds, and their mobility is reduced by 1.0% (10.0%).

[haughty skiff]

aquila is a permanent banner cv, special pool

oh datamines already ???

[eternal moth]

60% slow? That's pretty pog

[viscid swift]

I'm just machine translating the CN datamine

[rain night]

Whats that

[north elbow]

do i equip a dive bomber or fighter for aquila

[eternal moth]

That second part, about mobility being reduced, could that be evasion instead?

[stark quiver]

depends what you are doing

[haughty skiff]

actual W augment all things considered

i'm very curious what 'mobility is reduced' will actually be, potential evasion rate debuff ?

[stark quiver]

do you have boss mechanics

[eternal moth]

That's my guess, but it's probably EVA and not EVA RATE.

[haughty skiff]

Honestly very curious to see how well Monarch is post-augment

[eternal moth]

Not UR, so still not meta

[ivory pawn]

Guaranteed barrage! I'm happy.

[eternal moth]

If you don't care about absolute best and just want good ships, she'll probably stay near the top of gold

[haughty skiff]

for-sure not, im just more curious about Monarch compared to Izumo since Izumo is deemed the better of the two

[viscid swift]

Yukikaze

When you take damage, you have a 5.0% (25.0%) chance to reduce this damage to 1.During battle, when the torpedo weapon equipped by the player is launched, a special barrage Lv.1 (Lv.10) is triggered. The torpedoes in the special barrage will add a special flooding effect to the enemies hit, which lasts for 10 seconds (the flooding effect is calculated once per second, causing 179 damage each time. The power of the barrage depends on the skill level); when the player receives fatal damage, the player avoids the damage and will not die. All damage is avoided for 1 second. Then, the following effects are obtained based on the number of players in the vanguard fleet (this effect can only be triggered once per battle): (1) The number of players in the vanguard fleet is not 1: Deduct 1 durability from a random vanguard fleet character other than the player, and restore 1.0% (10.0%) of the player's durability. (2) The vanguard fleet consists only of the player: Avoid all damage for 5 seconds, and die after the effect ends.

[eternal moth]

Holy wall of text Batman

[haughty skiff]

thats

something

[viscid swift]

Yuudachi META showdown stats

[sweet delta]

My crystal ball says that new IJN UR will have burn blocking or burn reduction 🔮

[eternal moth]

Flooding torps, zombie Yuki with Laffey 2 ability but only 5 seconds instead of 8

[opaque galleon]

So you get a zombie skill and a barrage huh, that’s pretty good

[viscid swift]

skills

Tsubaki META will continuously target the teammate with the highest health percentage. After 5 seconds, she will unleash her claws on them, dealing heavy damage and giving them a 20-second special Ignition status with a 100% chance of inflicting damage (ignoring dodge and inflicting Ignition damage every 2 seconds. Repeated Ignition damage does not stack, but resets the duration). Afterward, the skill enters a 5-second cooldown.

If the allied character with the highest health percentage changes during the lock-on, the lock-on will restart.

I'll fight, fight, fight.

Chun-META's torpedoes also have a 30% chance to inflict a special Ignition lasting 6 seconds (ignoring dodge, inflicting Ignition damage every 1 second. Ignition damage stacks with the special Ignition from claw attacks).

Gauge-META's damage to Ignition units is increased by 30%. Each allied unit in the Special Ignition state reduces the damage taken by Gauge-META by 10%.

I don't think fire extinguishers are gonna help much this time

[stark quiver]

wtf 1.54m

[eternal moth]

What's the character really good at putting out fires? I know there's one, but I can't think of who it is

[viscid swift]

Shimanto?

[stark quiver]

shimanto

who the fuck is tsubaki meta

[viscid swift]

I don't think she'll help much

[potent roost]

Can someone train me pls

[eternal moth]

Poi

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

aux looks useless

[eternal moth]

Yeah, Shimanto won't help here. Damn. **extinguishes all Burning ships in your fleet (does not affect special Burn ailments) **

[soft raft]

"Attack at the same time as Unzen"
lol we syncing vanguards now?

[stark quiver]

i have a theory, cant we just..... run the same fleet as kwkz

[potent roost]

Guys I'm trash and I have wolf level threat

[ivory pawn]

No HP.

[stark quiver]

wrong server la

[soft raft]

#off-topic is that way

[viscid swift]

wrong server my dude

[potent roost]

Ig mb

[stark quiver]

wtf is this 99 nights

[potent roost]

What server i need to go to

[eternal moth]

Whatever game that is, or #off-topic

[stark quiver]

uhh probably find the roblox group and then their official server

[soft raft]

Definetly not this one

[viscid swift]

how the fuck should I know, all I know is this is the Azur Lane Official server

[haughty skiff]

that sakura augment is goofy as fuck

[viscid swift]

imagine paying for Yuudachi retrofit

[stark quiver]

paying what

[soft raft]

1 morbillion social credit

[stark quiver]

also mr cheek pls answer

[sweet delta]

is the island gamemode coming with JP anni?

[viscid swift]

Every 10 seconds during battle, perform a special attack (Level 1 (Level 10)) against a random enemy unit. (Power depends on skill level. Special attacks cause the hit enemy unit to enter a special Ignition state for 10 seconds, resuming every 5 seconds and dealing 610 damage per resuming.)

Swift Hunting

After battle begins, the player's artillery stat increases by 5.0% (15.0%), mobility by 5.0% (20.0%), and damage dealt to Ignition enemies by 5.0% (15.0%).

After using the [Flame Claws] special attack, reduce damage taken by the player for 8 seconds by 5.0% (20.0%). Every 20 seconds during battle, if the player is Ignited or an enemy unit is Ignited, restore 1.5% (5.0%) of their durability. Every 16 main gun attacks, trigger a round of Special Barrage III.

[vale spindle]

then wouldn't the files be installed during that maint instead of this maint

[viscid swift]

well Eldridge can't help with the burns

[stark quiver]

what can

[eternal moth]

Is that the fight or playable poi meta?

[viscid swift]

playable

Forbin

Skill Enhancement
Knight's Shield +
After battle begins, the player's own artillery attack attribute is increased by 10.0% (20.0%), and a special barrage of Level 1 (Lv. 10) is triggered every 15 seconds (power depends on skill level). This effect is effective when the Vanguard fleet consists solely of Free Bend Tail and Vichy characters.
Every 20 seconds, there is a 75% chance of triggering this, reducing damage taken by allied units by 10.0% (30.0%) for 10 seconds.
Effects of the same skill do not stack.
Applicable to Species

Yorktown

Equipment Effect
Aviation Combat Technique
Gain 10% bonus efficiency for your own aircraft equipment slots
Skill Enhancement
Revenge Strike +
At the start of battle, your own aviation attribute increases by 5.0% (15.0%). If damage is taken during battle and your durability drops below 20%, you recover 15.0% (25.0%) of your durability. This can only be activated once per battle. When you receive damage, you launch a special barrage attack.
Level 1 (Level 10) (power depends on skill level): Enemies hit by special barrages receive 4.5% (12.0%) of your damage for 8 seconds. Once triggered, there is a 20-second cooldown.

[grizzled sundial]

Monarch augment give her 100% chance to activate barrage ? what they mean slowed by 60 % and mobility reduce by 10 % ? Isn't that kinda the same thing ?

[ivory pawn]

Mobility = EVA

[eternal moth]

Yeah, either EVA or EVA Rate, we aren't sure which. That said, EVA is more likely

[grizzled sundial]

Not meta shaking , but 100% barrage chance is welcome .

[noble pawn]

Damn that augment is hella nice

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that's really all she needed was a 100% barrage; a slow on top of it is icing on the cake.

[opaque galleon]

Should bring monarch ahead of hood and Nelson

[viscid swift]

we don't know her new barrage's stats

[forest palm]

so how are the UEs this batch?

[viscid swift]

Monarch's looks solid at least

the rest are meh

Yuudachi META showdown is a burn fiesta

[forest palm]

gross

[viscid swift]

or a barbecue

[opaque galleon]

I mean base monarch barrage isnt bad, if it just got a targeting adjustment and 100% proc rate, it would be very good

[wet prairie]

is the "new" rainbow twin 76 a dps or accelerator? (how does it compare to frenchy)

[wind hazel]

monarch augment is -10% evasion?

[wet prairie]

should i make some of the twin 76s to replace my staags? (i see acc)

[wind hazel]

if you can afford, yes

[wet prairie]

and is it worth ditching my existing frenchies or is the difference not noticeable

[viscid swift]

depends where you are in the game but

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[wind hazel]

57 is obsolete

[viscid swift]

maybe not quite actually

[wet prairie]

hmm ok time to pump out at least 6

[wind hazel]

im only using mine for brest or my shitters because lazy gear swap now

[wet prairie]

new best support fighter for 15+? (when 16 smh)

[viscid swift]

one of the best

[wet prairie]

or is pancake better still

[viscid swift]

no

[wet prairie]

hmm ok

[wind hazel]

cake is slightly lower

[wet prairie]

damn did they forget agir fs

[wispy cosmos]

do we have a datamine for the new gear yet

[viscid swift]

`we have the CN one

HIT and EVA gear, pretty questionable skill

[sweet delta]

Yukikaze's augment buffs her hidden luck buff from 5 to 7

[leaden mountain]

where can i get more of these

[soft raft]

Huge

[soft raft]

Iirc X-4 hard mode stages

[wind hazel]

x-4 hard modee, guild shop, medal shop (expensive af)

[leaden mountain]

thx

[proven kernel]

does putting leveled gear in gear lab to upgrade retain their level?

[viscid swift]

no but you get refunded 100% of the plates

[proven kernel]

so i lose the gold used?

[wind hazel]

25% coin refund

[past sparrow]

Hello I'm knew.. Though is it just me.. The style kinda a little old for me??

[viscid swift]

what

[past sparrow]

The game.. Azure lane, i checked it out just today.. Or is it just me i was still in the old zone?

Or that's just how this game looked like??

[viscid swift]

it's recieved a couple of UI overhauls over the years

really though I'm not sure what the question is exactly or what you mean

[past sparrow]

Hmm btw i still wanna thank you for answering me

Look's like ill had to advance forward to see it myself on what's available

[hoary basin]

How to get eldridge ?

[onyx flame]

Merit shop, wait for her to rotate in

[hoary basin]

Okay

[bright rose]

After the research is done do I get her or smth?

[hard ocean]

I'm not sure I understand.. why do we want Essex to go off before Yorktown?

[opaque galleon]

To shave 2 whole seconds off of her next reload

[sweet delta]

Who said so in what context? It'll make Essex faster and desync them

[hard ocean]

Maybe I misunderstood?

[opaque galleon]

Fwiw the Yorkii/essex/kear fleet doesn’t have timed buffs/debuffs so you can desync

[hard ocean]

I think I confused myself more by asking the question wrong... I'll just go test it and figure it out x.x

[stark quiver]

but what about slows

[soft raft]

Eldridge retro

[stark quiver]

yea that

[opaque galleon]

Eh, unless it is a very mobile boss, rockets should have fairly high physical hit rate and Essex torp bombers can just be spearfish

[stark quiver]

most bosses move, and eld also fulfills the 4 uss req for essex while providing a slow and ehp boost for vanguards

not like the 4 uss matters but

[wind hazel]

fuck essex

[opaque galleon]

Even if bosses move a bit, rockets would still hit fairly consistently

[stark quiver]

all?

and then youd also have to factor in the boss's skills

[wind hazel]

go try using essex in CM

[stark quiver]

it desynced 2nd strike for me
truly a shitty boat never using her ever again

[rocky lake]

yeah

[opaque galleon]

Kearsarge cooks this fleet for cm btw, her airstrike activates aircraft protection

[stark quiver]

we are aware

kearsarge is ass in this cm
unless you somehow cuck her plane and get torpedo prot every time

i need to lock in and cook a fleet that works

[opaque galleon]

You can just put an autoloader on kearsarge to trigger cannon protection instead

[stark quiver]

kears main schtick is her gun dmg

[opaque galleon]

It’s better to lose kear damage than carrier damage

You’ll have the same problem doing 3 cv or 3 bb, torp syncing is too cringe

[stark quiver]

id run 3 cv and jsut sync them to avoid threat scan

[opaque galleon]

That would probably work with just a manjuu on Essex to slow her down I guess

[sweet delta]

@slow fox whats yuudachi meta ehp

[slow fox]

What

where data

[vale spindle]

I don't have it

[eternal basalt]

We're getting Poi META after this patch right?

[muted crescent]

Bro Yuudachi META ain’t even out yet 😭

[solid delta]

after the maintainence?

[clever valley]

What are META ships good for? Campaign, pvp, opsci?

I think i have 1 the dun-somthing shes a bb

[hard ocean]

Is there a map or chart anywhere explaining what range units are? Like for Rumey it says she can use guns with a range of 105... but what does that even mean?

[fleet berry]

Sam's equipment guide has an AA range illustration. I think that's the closest illustration that we have.

[hard ocean]

Might be good enough to give me an idea, thanks

[fleet berry]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1wWMIzaUKISAXMbOEnmsuuLkO9PesabpdTUWdosvHygM/htmlview#gid=1636736845

Check the 'AA Range Chart'

[cobalt rapids]

it means she has enough range to shoot at most enemies and not only suicide botes that reach backline

[hard ocean]

I love the Odin circle lmao. Honestly this is pretty much what I wanted, but the AA thing did help me get to that conclusion

[cobalt rapids]

as a note the black(orange)line will(can) vary depending on gamemodes but main fleet to enemy should be the same

[hard ocean]

Oh that's okay, I had genuinely no clue what the range units meant so this is perfect

[robust nymph]

whats maint for?

[eternal basalt]

#game-news

[robust nymph]

oh an other event

[gilded carbon]

Does Odin do that too when she is the Flagship?

[barren token]

yes

[gilded carbon]

So she is not good as Flag?

[wispy cosmos]

your fleet is probably not as good, she'll be exactly the same

[gilded carbon]

I find myself odly fascinated by Odin

What is a reasonable way of using Odin in a fleet-comp?

[wind hazel]

grinding for HIT tech...

[gilded carbon]

She will serve well enough in most content im doing.

[forest palm]

I mean she forces a paralell torp pattern and wil eat most damage for your main fleet, her damage is 2019 BB which isn't that grind by todays standard, if you want to use her she'll probably work up to 13

[gilded carbon]

She will also Work in events and most Farm needed. Im not aiming for the perfect meta-comp unless its needed. In wich Case, i would specifically ask for it

[wispy cosmos]

then what are you asking

[gilded carbon]

How to make the most use of Odin in what is a more laid back/Casual Fleet. I dont need it to be Meta but i want it to have teeth (metaphorically)

Think Event Hard-Modes to Ex

[slim hinge]

Which event is "Summons from the Sakura Empire"? I remember the image years ago but I can't find the event or the gear reward on the wiki.

[fathom relic]

what, that is....a new event for this patch, not an old event

[red hawk]

Does Monty have a use in any content?

[wind hazel]

not many, as filler at best

[forest palm]

it's a mini la

[wind hazel]

it was a loading screen from 2021

they just reuse it

[slim hinge]

I see. I thought this was an old event they were permanently adding.

[vocal sonnet]

Is the eldridge event gone?
Its the only event/retro ship I missed out on but I was out yesterday so couldnt do task 7/7

[thin crypt]

it stays up until the beginning of october iirc

[vocal sonnet]

TY

[thin crypt]

np, i stopped playing 4 years ago and came back around 2 months ago, so she was also the only one i was missing, really glad i came back by this time ngl

[analog phoenix]

Sum 1 please gib me a gear guide please >∆<

For bb , cv , cl , etc

[patent raft]

Waiter waiter! How many hours left before maintenance finish??

[forest palm]

3 more

[wispy cosmos]

see the event in this discord or ectl's maint banner
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[eternal basalt]

Till 24 Sept

[eternal basalt]

Soon. EN Patch not released soooo...

[sharp comet]

mori my featherweight gph goat

[cosmic osprey]

what is the maintenance for guys?

[eternal basalt]

#game-news

[cosmic osprey]

does it say on X

[ivory pawn]

#game-news message if you want a more specific link.

[narrow kiln]

hmm... Can you tell me your opinion about Dmitri Donskoi and her gun?

[undone plover]

Watch this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DGw3KWG_EMc

And this for the gear
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AWlZLu9VTaU&pp=0gcJCcYJAYcqIYzv

[red hawk]

can anyone explain the hood/drake/soyuz guns and what they're used for?

it's terms I keep hearing but im not sure where to find which is which in the equip guide

[forest palm]

there's a Hood Gun but no one uses that so you don't have to concern yourself with it, Drake Gun the Triple 234 is a generic Normal Ammo gun that's very strong and generally splash-able where needed won't be stronger than the UR Triple 203 SKC or the Triple 203/55, and Soyuz gun the Triple 406 MK-1 is generally stronger than Champy Gun (Triple 406/50)

[red hawk]

champy that was one of them, what about lion gun?

[forest palm]

strongest HE gun we have

Champy is AP

[red hawk]

whats the lion gun actual name

that's whats throwing me off is trying to connect shorthand with the actual gear rn

[wind hazel]

triple 406 MK II

[red hawk]

like there's a couple 406s, one is good to use, the other can craft to the good one

[wind hazel]

when in doubt, search the name here https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips

[forest palm]

this is why I hate nicknames, players can't familiarize themselves with just names sometimes

[wind hazel]

i can bet my life that players can't remember the numbers more than they can't remember names

[red hawk]

I can learn it but the gear has been out of reach till now so I haven't bothered

[forest palm]

as long as there's a picture associated, which would need a reference, giving the gun specifically can at least be googled

[red hawk]

I'm just trying to craft some of the better gear for some of my ships based on my resources and where I can actually use upgrades, and trying to sort out what's what. Generally I'm going for the most recommended pieces but a few I've done the 2nd best because of cost

like the gold twin 128 and the 155 kai

but when I see people talking about all these named guns and uses for them I get a bit lost

[forest palm]

you should put more emphasis on main fleet gearing

[red hawk]

I have a couple flapjacks I've made and getting gold catapults for my cvs

and my BB's have gotten shells from core

[forest palm]

any Triple 406/50s? Triple 380 Mle 1935s?

[red hawk]

not yet, that's literally my next move

I'm doing a ton of opsi currently

so it's a matter of when I have the mats

[undone plover]

Get those from protocore not gearlab

[red hawk]

I was buying the tenrai BP from protocore

fuck

[narrow kiln]

What do you recommend focusing on when using gear made from the UR Ordnance Testing Report?

[undone plover]

Get the guns first
U can buy 8 SR gear with the price of 1 tenrai

[undone plover]

Either 1 tenrai or save it

[red hawk]

you're talking the ones you get from analyzing core data right

I'll stop investing in the tenrai

[undone plover]

Analyzing combat data packs or blueprints

[red hawk]

yeah I don't have bps to analyze till I finish roon but I did get help understanding that process

[undone plover]

Prio the gold gear
U can only get 20 per series per month and then when u are done u can grab your tenrai

[narrow kiln]

I acted like the person above.
I have 1 tenrai, do I need to make another 1 if I am not sure if I need to use it?

[red hawk]

nah accounts bricked might as well reroll

[wind hazel]

v6.0 soon to number the minimum?

[red hawk]

I knew I was gonna make some mistakes, not a big deal

[undone plover]

I personally wouldnt because I think 1 tenrai is enough for newer ppl but some ppl recommend getting 1 more from gear lab
Both options are fine

[red hawk]

is the baguette plane from iris worth crafting?

[undone plover]

I think best grab like 2 from core data shop
Is it craftable?

[red hawk]

yeah and I have most of the mats, including the requisite planes

I wish there was a way to just see what you have materials to craft

I don't like how that sounded, I wish there was an option to filter only stuff you have the materials to fully build

[undone plover]

I think 30 electronics is expensive tbh
It is very cheap from core shop

Unless u really need it and are low on core data
In that case sure
But I prefer grabbing wyvern from lab
It takes sth like 70+ electronics so better not waste them

[red hawk]

I don't really have a perspective as to how much that is, I seem to pick them up decently farming opsi but I guess I should focus the main stuff

I have started crafting to that, I have the blackburn

[undone plover]

U will have electronics issues soon
Lots of good gear needs it

[wind hazel]

there are higher priority item that use electronics than crafting breguet

[tranquil crescent]

when is the update over gmt+2 time?

[red hawk]

ok, I was just trying to craft what I could that would be an upgrade, but if it would be better to save for the best upgrades that makes sense

[wind hazel]

maintenance expected to end by <t:1756998000:F>

[undone plover]

1.5 hours left

[tranquil crescent]

okey thanks

[undone plover]

Do u have the gearlab guide?

[red hawk]

yeah, like I said, I've been trying to build some of the stuff that I can reach that are 2nd best options for content and such

[undone plover]

Check the new player column
Anything u craft there is fine
Priority should be backline gear for stuff that shares mats
And within backline prio depends on what u want to tackle

[undone plover]

Just to be clear I am talking about this one
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab

[red hawk]

yeah I'm looking at samhearts lol

[undone plover]

Sam is the OG but it requires some context that not all players have since it doesnt account for resources rly afaik
Best to cross reference both guides imo

[red hawk]

There's also a lot of terms that don't make sense yet, like barrage DPS and syncing

I get the ideas generally but I'm not really going to need to worry about it yet

[forest palm]

damage a barrage does, and lining up ships to meet a particular window, kind of simple

[undone plover]

They are concepts for equipment
Essentially there are faster but lower dmg guns/planes
that are sometimes preferred over the slower but more dmg option because their specific timing allows for more barrages (for specific ships that have barrages that depend on when the main gun fires)
Or they allow for syncing/desyncing with other ships

[split bramble]

is it me or is the app not working on emulators? can't update, can't install

[forest palm]

just you

[split bramble]

really

[forest palm]

also there's maint

[vocal niche]

As a returner, I totally forgot that this game and Arknights really take a long time for maintenance...

[split bramble]

i meant update, I can do it on my phone

[undone plover]

Is the update out?

[narrow kiln]

I downloaded something.
But the server maintenance is not finished yet.

[split bramble]

like everything works fine on my phone, but the emulator is not working

[forest palm]

you should be able to DL the update right now, serves still got about an hour to go

[undone plover]

Might have to change the emulator device
#tech-support should know more

[split bramble]

alright thank you, thats very helpful

[red hawk]

Isn't some of it timing the barrages too so that you have better coverage? That you don't necessarily want everyone firing at once

[forest palm]

that's desync'ing

[red hawk]

Think im gonna have to start using fleet tool and some other stuff to track my gear

I'm trying to get all the basic stuff to 10 but also trying to get upgrades to better quality gear

And there's never enough plates to go around

[undone plover]

Kind of yes
We call that stagger/de sync
But a barrage gun technically could be a vanguard gun as well
In that case it is AoA not barrage but same thing

[undone plover]

Prioritize the guns/planes since the cooldown depends on enhance level and u will be fine

[red hawk]

That's only for specific ships though right? The barrage guns on vanguard

[undone plover]

If a ship has no on fire barrage or weak barrage no point sacrificing shell damage to get a bit more barrage

[forest palm]

it's rare to use Barrage Guns on BBs, standard Salvo Guns tend to just be better
though 457 is the exception where it functions as both

[undone plover]

Technically musashi almost always uses a barrage gun

[red hawk]

And it looks like the mog gun is the preferred dd gun for pretty much everything else

[undone plover]

Pretty much
But it is limited and only 1 copy

[red hawk]

Vanguard wise

[narrow kiln]

As a newbie I will say that some ships have skills for which it is better to synchronize attacks.

[forest palm]

raw damage, and a high FP stat will do that, the twin 100 kai may come into play, then you have the single 113 and single 76

[undone plover]

Sync is mainly a thing for single target boss tbh

[red hawk]

can you even get the Mog gun right now

[undone plover]

In campaign stagger is always better where it matters in both mob and boss

[forest palm]

nope

Twin 138.6 is event locked

[red hawk]

so probably aiming for 100kai then

[undone plover]

The best dd right now uses single 113
So dont be too eager to get the twin 100 kai

Prio backline gear always

I still only have 1 twin 100 kai after 2 years and havent used it much tbh

[red hawk]

yeah, I have a couple of the gold 128's so I'll start focusing on those backline guns

[forest palm]

there's also the Twin 130 B-2LM/ Twin 130 1936

both these guns I listed are functionally the same

[red hawk]

for what use?

Im looking them up rn nvm

[forest palm]

👍

[red hawk]

I assume you're talking about the SR version?

[forest palm]

ya the gold ver

[red hawk]

part of the frustration with the gear guide is finding out how much is unobtainable

[undone plover]

Between backline gear BB is also almost always biggest bang for your buck for a new player
BB gear is a single slot and ~60-80% of their dmg depends on that slot
For carriers around 20–40% of their dmg is dictated with 1 slot
Higher for fritz and Indep I guess since they only have 2 slots

[red hawk]

I know there are alternatives but it's like, how far down the list do I go before I just don't worry about upgrading

[forest palm]

the one I feel that hurts the most is the lack of access to AFCT

[red hawk]

that's the UR table thing for BB right

[undone plover]

Should be added soon

[red hawk]

see, some of the best gear is easy and clear to get, like white shells, and then some of it is like "ok this gun is good, but it'll cost you a month of resources and it's only good on this specific map against a specific boss"

[forest palm]

ya...

[red hawk]

which is fine, I get it, but im trying to avoid making too many niche items right away

[undone plover]

The good thing is there are mutiple sources of end game gear
Like research + lab + multiple stores + events

[forest palm]

at least CVs aren't so bottlenecked imo

[narrow kiln]

Does crafting Twin 457mm Mk A in gear lab as a good damage and barrage gun make sense?
(I like to ask questions, maybe stupid ones)

[undone plover]

That is why we made that guide
Trying to cut out the fat so to speak

[wispy cosmos]

no, while there are very extreme examples like trafalgar or natori who rely mostly on barrage damage, a lot of dds perform a bit better one way or another with a more gunnery focused (e.g. twin 130) or faster gun (e.g. twin 114)

[undone plover]

It makes sense because u want 2 ideally
Unless u have musashi then 1 is usually enough

[forest palm]

mostly for campaign, ya

[undone plover]

Since musashi doesnt use it

[forest palm]

though the Twin 457 isn't exactly a high priority in terms of crafting

[red hawk]

so I only use white + black shell on a secondary BB right? use the tower thing on main?

[forest palm]

not quite

White Shell + HSFCR is what you splash on all your BBs, unless there's some sort of timing you need to meet, in some rare cases you will see Black over White

[red hawk]

this is what had me a bit confused

oh wait I'm reading it wrong aren't I. That's not about two ships that's the 2 slots jfc

im sorry my brain wasn't firing

[silk helm]

has the recomendation alwaysbeen white + hsfcr? I swear when i started ppl recommended 3 whtie + 3 black

[red hawk]

I don't have either RN so it's a moot point lol, waiting on bps

[undone plover]

We recommend buying 2 shells since the radar is time-gated
But for usage white shell + radar is practically the default

[red hawk]

well shell is core but

[forest palm]

it's shifted over time

[undone plover]

White + black shell is probably more used in mixed fleets to sync CV to BB

Since CV dont have a one salvo offset timing gear similar to the radar

[forest palm]

something something 2019 this used to be the generally common setup because HSFCR wasn't excatly the easiest thing to comeby

[undone plover]

Also probably with more rld tech and faster guns and ships getting 4 salvo is easier
But idk rly

[red hawk]

sorry was trying to get something off my keys

is there a specific faction that gives better fleet tech for early on or is it better to just grind out what you need for research

[undone plover]

Also iirc bosses had less evasion back then so the hit from radar was not as required as these days
But again this is me guessing since I wasnt playing then

[wispy cosmos]

mainly just relative accessibility between the 2 and optimal timings changing with the game

[forest palm]

this should help you visualize things
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Faction_Technology_Stat_Bonuses

[undone plover]

Best tech early on is arguably backline rld since u need it to get 4 salvo for BB and to sync better to helena and potentially even get 4 rotation for CV
It also generally just gives more flexibility
So look at that chart and u can work your way to it

[red hawk]

yooo there's a guide that literally shows how much each ship contributes

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

we also have a tracker

[red hawk]

oh wow so some rares give more fleet tech than SR's

[undone plover]

Yes
But also dont look at just the tech points
Ships give specific tech at level 120
For example duke of york gives + 2 rld to all MLB BBs
Work on the specific ones and the faction tech will slowly increase with time

[red hawk]

I was just thinking that's nice for looking at IB ships to try and level for some fleet tech though

since I'll need it for my next shipyard step

[undone plover]

Fair enough

[forest palm]

ah, IB tech truly fun

RN tech as well

[red hawk]

yeah the thing that sucks is the ships that are easy to get right now are all pretty low tech points, stuff like z1. I'm working on getting Z46 and I have eugen but I need gold bulins

I limit broke too many SR's probably shouldn't have

[forest palm]

welcome to KMS, high point per ship, but very limited in number

[red hawk]

plus all the retrofit costs

[undone plover]

Honestly elite and more common ships are better for tech point even if they give less overall
Using gold bulins for tech is painful

[forest palm]

pretty sure retro only add to collection%

[red hawk]

yeah, and since I started during the alterier event time, I used a bunch on collab ships

[undone plover]

Yeah retro has nothing to do with tech

[red hawk]

no but you use gold bulins on SR retros

[undone plover]

Take your time
It is not a race

[red hawk]

I know, Im just really enjoying the game and doing as much as I can

im on work layoff rn so im bored a lot

[narrow kiln]

By the way.
When does Retrofit San Diego become necessary? (or rather, AA of her level)

[wispy cosmos]

from the sounds of it you shouldnt be worrying about fleet tech yet outside of tech points for pr

[red hawk]

yeah pretty much just sounds like I need to basically make a faction fleet at this point just for levelling

or at least start getting a few ships levelled to where they can safely farm 12 with my fleets

I kind of started doing that with my third fleet in opsi

[silk helm]

thats why meta ships r nice, basically 'free' SR and fleet tech

[undone plover]

But no faction tech

[wispy cosmos]

having an aa carry is nice for 13-3 and -4 but not strictly necessary. 13hm and 15 are when u really cant get by with just a well built, carry-less fleet

[elfin hollow]

Hi! I recently started playing and I want to get as many Iron Blood ships as possible, as well as the Priority Ships quickly.
Any tips for getting these ships? Is there an Iron Blood event coming soon?
I've discovered the War Archive Divergent Chessboard, but completing the 60 turns and getting the gold character requires a fairly high level.

[wispy cosmos]

sounds like u dont clear the bar for the german mommy ride yet, just play the game until you can do the warchives

[eternal basalt]

Now Sakura, Tempesta, Collab. Dunno what faction December brings...

[elfin hollow]

Thank you very much for your answers, it seems a bit complicated to get Iron Blood ships at the moment (I'm buying all the ones in the guild store)

[red hawk]

I did end up maxing out dunq meta just for fun

don't have a lot of bbs anyway

[wind hazel]

i wanna get iron blood ships too

[red hawk]

there are a couple you can farm on the easy nodes of divergent chessboard but not the good ones

[silk helm]

new player? need tech for fdg? 😂

[wind hazel]

is z46 good?

[elfin hollow]

Is it long until the Z52 rerun?

[wind hazel]

yes lol

[red hawk]

nothing is good unless it's a UR apparently

[wind hazel]

looking at 2027

[red hawk]

I just meant the higher tech point ships are only available on the hard nodes not that ships are "good" sorry

[elfin hollow]

noooo that's a long time

[silk helm]

who knows maybe z52 gets power crept by then

[eternal basalt]

January 2027

[elfin hollow]

[wind hazel]

impossible, but she's from Ironblood!

[narrow kiln]

around the beginning of the year?

[wind hazel]

ye

[red hawk]

am I remembering right? capped XP counts for PR

[wind hazel]

it does, but ideally you don't do that

[elfin hollow]

Thank you very much for your answers, see you another time.

[red hawk]

right, I'm just saying if I use my bossing fleet for stuff and z23 is in there

[wind hazel]

see you IB fans

[red hawk]

I'm not trying to use too many capped ships but I also don't have a lot of options to use outside of my main fleets right now

so it's hard not to have a few capped ships at a time right now

[narrow kiln]

By the way, do you have Meta Showdown open?

[red hawk]

and like, Uni is living in my mob fleet

[elfin hollow]

It doesn't sound familiar to me, I don't think so.

[wind hazel]

that's fine, but 12-1 is really easy and you only need ~lv100 ships to pass it

granted your gear isn't all dog poo though

[red hawk]

I mean it's not trash but it's not good gear

[hollow gust]

How much better did they make monarch barrage

[wind hazel]

china rate it S- tier

[forest palm]

you can get away with a lot of things in 12-1 honestly

[wind hazel]

uh, -S? or S- idk

[hollow gust]

Rating is so arbitrary, how is she compared to Izumo now

[viscid swift]

Slightly better

[wind hazel]

suchi's

[viscid swift]

According to Suchi anyway

[wind hazel]

ykkz the surprise though

[hollow gust]

Meh sounds like more pvp cancer then anything

[wind hazel]

china put monalisa above izumo too

izumo 出云 is below her

[cobalt gate]

do limited furniture for private ever return?

[wind hazel]

some no idea yet

[wind hazel]

med and heavy, if anyone cares

[verbal light]

Can I use the slide with NJ? It’s listed under her items in the shop

But it only appears on the beach where she cannot join

[wind hazel]

doesnt seem like you can

[verbal light]

Wow that’s a fraud

[wind hazel]

yeah it is a bit misleading

[cobalt gate]

so how likely will the 7th anni furniture from web event be rerelased?

[bright rose]

What is this update about

[wind hazel]

check #game-news for full patch notes

[harsh gust]

https://azurlane.yo-star.com/news/2025/09/03/maintenance-notice-9-4-12-a-m-utc-7/

[harsh gust]

nobody knows
if I had to guess - very unlikely if it's meant to be commemorative for anniversary

[verbal light]

How do I unlock those?

[cobalt gate]

welp, i hate how it was a stupid web event that took like 1 week to finish

[wispy cosmos]

walk around and poke at things that sparkle

[cobalt gate]

got like no reminder of it till like 2 days before it is done

[whole crypt]

what, we got monarch aug?

[eager mulch]

poke

[stark quiver]

you get a reminder when you log onto the game tho, on the recent news screen

[cobalt gate]

@stark quiver did it? i don't think i ever saw it

[whole crypt]

I'm guessing they made the barrage 100% but still shit on light?

[cobalt gate]

there was a reminder for the useless skin thing

[paper walrus]

my update is 1.7gb what did they add for it to be so big

[harsh gust]

#gameplay-help message

[wind hazel]

better than izumo

[zinc prairie]

I don't have Brest yet... who can sub for her in ch15?

Planning on tackling ch.15 later on

[undone zinc]

1.7 gb in updates?!

What are the main changes?

[harsh gust]

#gameplay-help message

[wind hazel]

napoli, guam etc

[slow barn]

Does anyone know if the pie 64-bit bluestacks instance supports azur lane?

[ancient kestrel]

Hello! So I have kind of a stupid question. What do you actually do with your Elite ships? Do you max limit break them for the bonuses and then retire them, or do you do something else? Right now, I'm struggling with dock space — it's full with 250 Elite and higher rarity ships.

[wind hazel]

it's buggy, android 13 is preferred last i used BS, check #tech-support for more info

[wind hazel]

if you gonna stay f2p, then you wanna start retiring easily obtainable elites

[strange sphinx]

of course Yorktown Augment but still no AUGMENT ENTY

[wind hazel]

one has aug and is still shit, one doesn't have aug and still one of the best

[red hawk]

dump any elites you have MLB and then from there you can decide whether you want to save dupes for non mlb ships or just acquire more later/universal bulin

[hollow gust]

Almost as if augments are for weaker ships that actually need it instead of favoritism

[red hawk]

but like, don't retire built ships just dupes

[crystal jewel]

Is this necessary?

[harsh gust]

only if you gonna use 3d dorm

[whole crypt]

not if you don't touch 3d dorm

[crystal jewel]

Thanks

[slender turtle]

Does anyone have that sheet with the strats on the meta bosses?

[clever valley]

should i pick up duke of york from the merit shop or wait for eldridge to come back as i didnt have the 20k when she showed up

[haughty skiff]

wait for eldridge

[clever valley]

kk

[covert tulip]

ohh right they said sept 4 maintenance

[slender turtle]

Whats a good fleet for the rodney meta fight?

[sweet delta]

That is a good question

[wind hazel]

i only remember nagato being used and it was hard af for f2p

[undone plover]

Stagger anti-heavy backliners + unzen + unzen buffers

[slender turtle]

Yeah i mean that mechanic she does is pretty rough business

Ah so if no unzen, ggs?

[undone plover]

There are other options but she is the best probably

[slim dome]

is it worth LBing archerfish when i don't have any other eagle subs to pair with her yet?

[undone plover]

The backline is inherently weakened so u need to overcome with stronger frontliners
If u make a thread we can help

[slender turtle]

I saw some youtube videos of comps like that, impac,haku, shinano backline

And the. Unzen,kaza, helena frontline

Wondering if has the comp has changed since new ships have come out

[wind hazel]

amagi replace haku i guess

[undone plover]

Yeah that is a good one
But u need very specific timing on that backline since u cant time them to a stop

[daring oracle]

what are the new top bbs to go for? My shits too powercrept

[undone plover]

And BB are also weakened
Their second and third mgm tend to hit the ghosts iirc

[slender turtle]

Yeah i think thats where my issue lies, the timing is really tough

[undone plover]

What do u have?

[wind hazel]

what's the window again, 1.5? or 2?

[molten zinc]

1.5 iirc

[undone plover]

I think it was 1.5 but not sure

[slender turtle]

And no unzen makes life pretty sad, its 1.5 i believe

[wind hazel]

i remember that the last strike will clash for f2p and i had to 2shot

or was it 1st strike idr

[undone plover]

zwei + soyuz are still top of the meta
And vangaurd is still top BB as buffer
If u have bulins u should mlb lion and alsus at some point
But save 4 bulins for new UR

[rain vine]

no

[daring oracle]

cool so my NJ is ass now and the HMS and French are priority got it

[undone plover]

She is still amazing and fine in 99% of content

[daring oracle]

Pvp?

[undone plover]

The only thing NJ cant do is to one shot some meta
Which is not important for anything except flex tbh

[undone plover]

Royal oak is better than zwei for pvp
Pvp is just a different beast and u rly should not assess stuff based on pvp

[daring oracle]

cool thank you

back to the coin farm

[slim dome]

also how is U-552? she's my only mostly-LBd gold sub

[wind hazel]

best kms vs ST boss, but not useable in campaign

[daring oracle]

How do i get these funky things

[rotund cobalt]

anyone has their game freeze in the battle?

[ivory pawn]

Operation Siren.

[daring oracle]

which part

[ivory pawn]

Yes.

[daring oracle]

fack

[ivory pawn]

Dailies, cat nodes, and Port Shop are the big ones.

I want to say Hidden Zones, Strongholds, Abyssals, and Arbiter too, but I don’t want to double check drops so don’t quote me on that.

[spark patio]

is warspite worth retrofit now?

[ivory pawn]

Eh. Depends who you have and maybe a little bit who’s coming next week, but she actually can be worth now unlike before.

[spark patio]

fine, i will wait for next week update

[soft raft]

Eh
She's lower UR BB tier but with a lot more investment required

Cuz SR->UR retro and unique aug do be pricey

[ivory pawn]

Hell, just wait for stream in like 2 days. If no UR BB, can be worth.

[spark patio]

fine, imma wait for the ur then

guys, my zenker keep getting a lot of damage, how can i reduce it? bc of me putting her in middle?

[wind hazel]

damage from what?

difference source of damage need different method of protection

[spark patio]

like, she is the only one who take the damage, others got 0 damage

i can't sorte in 10-4 bc of my flagship keep dying

[wind hazel]

ah, you need fire extinguisher, and good aux gun for your BB

who are you using? im blind

try this

[spark patio]

mob:
sara post retro
zenker (flag)
unicorn

[wind hazel]

or if you're still in budget department

[spark patio]

oh so i have to use that red thing? i use two shell , white and black

[wind hazel]

ye it's only for w10 and w11

you start seeing suicide boats

bb shelling hurts too

pretty much wanna reduce the burn damage, so that fire extinguisher comes in handy

[spark patio]

I will try this fire extinguisher then sorte 10-4

[dull oriole]

Which banner is worth pulling from

[sweet delta]

The one coming in 7 days

[narrow kiln]

and light pull once per day to quest

[spark patio]

I hope this might help me on 10-4

[civic prairie]

is roon or agir better to develop?

[quaint tapir]

agir 100% of the time

[civic prairie]

ok

[soft raft]

Agir but you might have to do Roon anyways for the tech points

[forest palm]

CV helping in world 10 is funny

[spark patio]

i am noob

[daring oracle]

bro just kill everything before your flag catches on fire durr

[viscid swift]

or just use a fire extinguisher

[daring oracle]

or be overleveled

[viscid swift]

you can still be overleveled and killed by the burns

[forest palm]

burn doesn't give a shit when you're using poor gear, or bad ships

[wind hazel]

the legendary 11-3

[forest palm]

that or 10-1 conga line

[hollow viper]

Are there any other ships, like Unicorn and Portland that have retrofits and are easily accessible, that are good for a newbies or just good overall.

[gritty kraken]

yo I have question, I wanna do 2 BB fleet. I have Ulrich now i'm about to getting another BB between Friedich and Mecklenburg what should I choose?

[forest palm]

Independence, Nelson, Maryland, Colorado come to mind

though I don't see the need for all 3 of those BBs

[spark patio]

that’s why i get sara retrofit

[hollow viper]

Well I have Maryland retrofitted from some previous advice. Worth it going for the others or?

[spark patio]

yeah they are 10-20 lv above my ships

[quaint tapir]

ehh indep is questionable as far as newbie friendly goes since she's locked behind 1200 core data

generally better spending the core data elsewhere early on

[forest palm]

Independence is one of the best recommendations for Core Data

[hollow viper]

Is she just that good?

[quaint tapir]

she is! but she's also redundant for most content pre w13/14

[forest palm]

[soft raft]

Whar

[stark quiver]

[silk helm]

LOLOL

[wind hazel]

oh fuck was it you daniel, the 11-3 guy? it was you?

[silk helm]

no...

im 13-1 guy

anyways, anyone know if suchi is gunna upload a yuudachi meta OHKO video?

[wind hazel]

he will

need to catchup to kimocheese subs amount

[undone plover]

just remember it takes 7 days to get level 15 poi

[silk helm]

damn.. i hate waiting for new suchi vids

time to binge old ones i guess

[wind hazel]

apparently yuudachi also has self pull effect, so meck can get the buff without bismarck lol

anyone with dev30 meck?

[silk helm]

only 300 bps away

[forest palm]

give me a 130 prints

[soft raft]

Lmao

[viscid swift]

Still need about 150

[stark quiver]

im really sure its just kwkz meta fleet with a even tankier frontline that can counter the special burn

[viscid swift]

You can't really counter the burn though

[stark quiver]

so im just gonna take it

[viscid swift]

It just straight up ignores Eva mechanics and they're special burns so there's no way to extinguish them

[wind hazel]

fire suppressor 🐐

[stark quiver]

lion lore

[wind hazel]

does fire supp work

[stark quiver]

no

[viscid swift]

I presume no

[wind hazel]

fuck us i guess

[viscid swift]

Because special burns

[stark quiver]

LMFAO we just need to outdps her

[viscid swift]

We can't exactly quick kill either because 1.54 million HP and 10% damage reduction for every burning ship we have

[stark quiver]

does she burn backline

[wind hazel]

new UR meta again

[stark quiver]

i still have 1 ring left
and every 2x pack unbought

[viscid swift]

No clue

[thorn tartan]

D-036-UL Cognition: cost 5 cubes. Is it worth it?

[stark quiver]

ill assume so, and can i have multiple burning ships

[viscid swift]

Which ship

[stark quiver]

depends how many cubes you have
its just there to save time
and which ship ofc

[thorn tartan]

so no better chance for UR gear?

[stark quiver]

maybe better nobody knows
but which ship is it

[thorn tartan]

one of the new UR ones

not the redhead

[stark quiver]

i personally wouldnt

[thorn tartan]

i just wanted to know if i had a better chance at UR gear. don't need prints faster

[quaint tapir]

rainbow research for leeuw?

[viscid swift]

Mecklenburg?

[viscid swift]

It's one of the best

[quaint tapir]

usually does anecdotally, i've gotten 2-3 UR gear prints from the 30 min researches before

not often but i have at least one screenshot in my phone from the last month, so not never?

[thorn tartan]

but does it increase the odds of UR gear over any other purple or gold research?

[quaint tapir]

only manjuu could tell you that

[wind hazel]

my 2 UL didn't give any gear bp 😭

[thorn tartan]

i'll ask manjuu

[daring oracle]

I just put a perseus in both fleets

and call it a day

[proud river]

Okay, so i've been playing for 4 weeks now and i'm getting close to 60 (Lv 55). I think it's time to start prepping to build a second fleet, right?

[thorn tartan]

Get a 2nd fleet when you start getting extra leveled ships.

[wind hazel]

start at ch9

if you have access to SP5 on passionate polaris/universe in unison in war archive, you could start there too

but it's limited to your WA keys i guess

[proud river]

Well i haven't even touched WA yet

[wispy cosmos]

a purple or gold q?

[proud river]

I asked because the ecgc guides says to start building when you unlock OS, which comes by lv 60

[eternal basalt]

80

[oak solstice]

Does anyone have any tips or could point me to where I can find suggestions on teams for Yuudachi Meta? I'm a new-ish player and just want to try grinding it. Thanks and sorry if this isn't the place to ask

[thorn tartan]

Qs have better gear odds. Over another D.

[viscid swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376280341337346220/1394706831984693477/chrome_vwpxMIIs7k.png?ex=68bb05f5&is=68b9b475&hm=f17ef671ec5c9043eed4271492340298d093570b4d9166519ad48224743a53ca

[wind hazel]

use your strongest fleet, and press request support after

[undone plover]

she is low level now just use any triple BB with mk6 gun and should work
I havent looked at the gimmicks tbh but shouldnt matter until she is higher level

[wispy cosmos]

only the golds do, and yes

[oak solstice]

Gotcha. Thank you Mori and Faerlein I will do that

[oak solstice]

Triple 406mm (Mk 6 Prototype) this gun is what you mean?

[viscid swift]

no

[wind hazel]

non prototype mk6

[eternal basalt]

purple gun

[wind hazel]

it's purple

[undone plover]

no the purple version

if u have lion gun or NJ gun use em but u said u are new so that is why I said use this

[wispy cosmos]

if you're curious about the exact numbers it's about a quarter of a print/hr vs a fifth for the gold 0.5 hr d, and the gold qs range from half to ~1 print/hr

[red hawk]

is there a general best item to put on shinano first plane flex slot

[thorn tartan]

did you try the ECTL?

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[wispy cosmos]

yeah this is the literal question that ectl's gear reccs are designed to answer

the answer's a flapjack or other 2x1000lb fighter, but also for backliners it's not a good question to be asking which is why we're working on more specific loadout reccs for them

[oak solstice]

Gotcha thanks! I do have the Lion gun so that's very lucky. I apologize, I'm not totally new I started in March of this year so I have a bit of gear crafted. I will do my best with my BBs then. Appreciate the help!

[thorn tartan]

Read through the ECTL for her. It explains each option.

[viscid swift]

or just give the quick gear guide a look sigh

[undone plover]

no worries
when it gets to around level 10+ u can come back to ask
we will know more by then how to make a fleet for poi

[narrow kiln]

Can you tell me where I can find local communities of the game?
(I want to see one in Russian)

[oak solstice]

I will do that!

[urban shard]

anyone game got stuck after update? LDplayer

[wispy cosmos]

use both tbh, the qgg is better for backline main weapons but i think ectl is more useful for vanguards

[undone plover]

i think there used to be a channel for non-EN chat in this server but I can't find it
maybe check the #1246721562741178410 and see if u can find a russian guild

[thorn tartan]

I just checked the link. It is helpful to see it all side-by-side. The ENTL has the benefit of considering gear that is unique to each ship's skills/abilities.

[cobalt rapids]

#international-port

[undone plover]

neko to the rescue

[narrow kiln]

thanks.
Dont see this chat.

[viscid swift]

there's like maybe 60 total out of the over 600 that would have "unique" gear templates

me and suuchi did briefly discuss maintaining an excpeitons list

[vale spindle]

[thorn tartan]

Is Shinano one of them? I like the guide you provided. I'm going to use it too.

[viscid swift]

but considering most of the exceptions are pretty irrelevant and the PIA of upkeeping that many unique options yeah....

[undone plover]

shinano does not require any specific gear no

[viscid swift]

no

moreso ships like Musashi

[thorn tartan]

what's that?

[viscid swift]

the start of the exceptions list

[cobalt rapids]

what exceptions are z52 and traf

[thorn tartan]

I figured.

[viscid swift]

that was very quickly abandoned

[viscid swift]

main guns, though this was before we just truncated that to mentioning the barrage spammers

[vale spindle]

now you understand what i have to deal with

[undone plover]

we all love and appreciate you sam

[thorn tartan]

It's a quick gear guide. And it looks very good. Much easier to read than the ENTL.

[wind hazel]

[wispy cosmos]

i could not imagine updating that on sheets yeah, ectl's template system is probs always going to be better for this sort of thing

[narrow kiln]

I hope my friend gets the help I can't give him.
And I'll stay here.

[viscid swift]

yep

[undone plover]

besides musashi kear and ykii are there any meta ships that require specific gear

[cobalt rapids]

agir ( is she meta anymore ? ) , laffii

[wispy cosmos]

couple of the ca/cbs have unique reccs, z52/traf, more ships that have faction gear reqs

[wind hazel]

Kron 😭

[narrow kiln]

Meanwhile, I remembered the discussion this afternoon...
And can you tell me what would be better in general: "High Standard Fire-Control Radar" or the black projectile?

[undone plover]

true i keep forgetting the vanguards

[cobalt rapids]

kron is in retirement home

[viscid swift]

former

[wind hazel]

she retire in my bed

[viscid swift]

just gonna bring out my hot take factually correct ratings

[wind hazel]

warspite is #5 dps

[cobalt rapids]

poor raffy, when ure rly good in w15 but that content is useless

[undone plover]

~~ch16 soon ~~

[thorn tartan]

what ship is 3rd row left?

[viscid swift]

Implacable?

[undone plover]

[thorn tartan]

yeah, could be. I have leveled her but haven't had a need for slow/stops in a long time

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 i returned to her for helena CM

[wispy cosmos]

was there any reason qgg separated out dd and cl guns for boss type but didnt bother splitting up the dd guns along reload lines btw

[viscid swift]

to keep things simply mostly

we decided that there weren't enough relevant DDs that would prefer the faster reloading middle ground guns to warrant making that a seperate template

because if we did that then we'd have to say which of those DDs would prefer the middle ground guns

like I definitely know those ships exist but

[wispy cosmos]

i mean laff2 and mog are already there as examples of each but
yeah the listing all the dds out is fair enough, just thought id ask since it's a more relevant difference than armour type for them imo

[thorn tartan]

Wait, Unzen is in the useless catagory? I must be doing my fleets wrong.

[stark quiver]

Unzen is like straight dps

A lot like hinden

[viscid swift]

uesless in the sense that she's not important for any fleets right now

[thorn tartan]

except when I use her on manual bosses, they just seem to end faster.

[viscid swift]

I'll have to double check the numbers, but another reason why we separated out the barrage spamers is because one of their best guns is a blue gun that you can get from tech boxes which is not an insignificant thing to note

[wind hazel]

useless at the moment doesn't mean useless. it's useless at the moment when you have every other UR in the game at your disposal

like there's no boss that needs her right now

[viscid swift]

well I'm thinking purely from an auto perspective for one

and I don't put that much into clear times either

[wind hazel]

you better update that tierlist every month cheeky, gonna be quote out of context 24/7

[thorn tartan]

That might make sense then. I like Unzen for my bosses, especially heavy ones. Gets the battles done quickly.

[viscid swift]

good thing it's Yuudachi META for the next 3 months

[thorn tartan]

is she heavy?

[cobalt rapids]

shes light

[thorn tartan]

didnt we just do a light?

[cobalt rapids]

we did

[viscid swift]

yes

[molten zinc]

I'll be honest, I've never touch Hindenburg even with 2 +13 gun and dev30 other than that one time I use her in Algerie META for some cooking strat, never see any use for her and I can't even bother

[cobalt rapids]

well they keep releasing oper vanguards

[thorn tartan]

i've never used Hindy....... but that doesn't mean much.

[civic prairie]

which skill on fdg need to focus on upgrading first?

[thorn tartan]

generally red first, others later

[silk helm]

yoo essex promoted lets gooo

[cobalt rapids]

u can do all 666 then do em in order
generally it doesnt matter because her skills will be done by the time shes done lvling

[thorn tartan]

btw, i don't think i even have essex....... i'm not sure why

[wind hazel]

she's free from invitation letter few weeks ago

[thorn tartan]

that solves that!

[hollow viper]

along with her retrofit item

[red hawk]

should I level her or indy first

I don't wanna split retrofit parts

[thorn tartan]

which launches faster?

[wind hazel]

you mean indep? indep is far cheaper

[viscid swift]

you can just level them without retrofitting them

[wind hazel]

essex requires additional gold bulin, 17 retro, 52k coin lol

[viscid swift]

and finish their retrofits later

[cobalt rapids]

on the other hand essex turns into ur cv good everwhere while indep is campaign oriented

depends what u wanna prio

[thorn tartan]

does essex launch faster? I use indep for fast planes

[red hawk]

i feel like essex is more valuable, and I have already got her at MLB, but I hear people say independence is really good

[wind hazel]

no, but she has fucking high rld for a CV

[viscid swift]

she is really good

[vale spindle]

once we get working simulations this will all be a thing of the past anyways so im not too worried

[viscid swift]

problem is there are a lot of really good CVs in the game these days

[cobalt rapids]

shes really good (for campaign)

[clever valley]

are there any really good CA/CL/s i should be on the lookout for when im doing ship pulls?

[silk helm]

opsi too 😄

[thorn tartan]

independence is for fast reloads. lots of other carriers do good dmg

[cobalt rapids]

opsi mobbing is not a high bar and theres much more value in ur cv than indep xfleet

[sweet delta]

Simulations meaning ? Totally not hacked barrage gifs and hit rates?

[vale spindle]

idk how its done i just know its done somehow

[wind hazel]

sandiego, aurora, scylla. CA ask during event if you actually got them

but not really that many notable CA, maybe sanfran

[thorn tartan]

looks like i'm missing a few from 7th year letter: essex; tallinn; joffre

[clever valley]

sandiego is the AA boat right?

[viscid swift]

no

[sweet delta]

San Diego is an AA boat, not the AA boat

[cobalt rapids]

shes numbah wan aa but she does other stuff aswell

[clever valley]

ah kk i have her at lvl 92 i think with her aug and im working on retroing her

[silk helm]

is san diego power crept by golden leeuw

[cobalt rapids]

nop

[wispy cosmos]

nice pun

[viscid swift]

if you're not in W12 forget about her retrofit for now

[clever valley]

ah kk, im at 10-3, the other retro i can work on are saratoga and essex

[sweet delta]

Does Lion burn kill the Rodney's?

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt

[thorn tartan]

What is the "really good at one thing" for Trafalgar?

[viscid swift]

apply a 10% evasion rate debuff to enemies when your flagship(if it's a BB) fires

[thorn tartan]

so fit her in the BB fleet if i can.

[viscid swift]

yes

[thorn tartan]

there's getting to be a lot of UR ships. When does SUR start?

[cobalt rapids]

when devs feel like it

[cobalt rapids]

she only needs a bb flag to proc her debuff not an entire bb fleet

[undone plover]

bbv also works right?

[thorn tartan]

yeah i see that. I could use a guide for fleet composition. like best BB, CV and mixed fleets.

[undone plover]

for trafalger

[cobalt rapids]

anything that fires bb salvo like yes

[sweet delta]

Does DDG work?

[cobalt rapids]

nope iirc

[undone plover]

EN doesnt tend to do this tbh
your best bet is checking the CN dps tierlist
but some ppl dont like it

[thorn tartan]

well before it was easy, just use the UR ships... .but now there's a lot of UR

[sturdy fern]

what social media does cn use

[undone plover]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/舰船输出生存参考

[cobalt rapids]

en also has a dps list
but fleetbuilding doesnt usually only involve throwing the highest dps to be max optimal

[thorn tartan]

hence the need for a guide. Like here are some sample kick ass BB CV and mixed fleets right now. in general

[undone plover]

yeah that is the CN list
just check it out
it cant hurt
Just dont treat it as gospel

[thorn tartan]

i will ty

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wvigE4P1-2XUt3tnGuXKPeD-WiDtOxbm9GEkSeTO9mY/edit?gid=1396913063#gid=1396913063

[thorn tartan]

where do i find CN?

[undone plover]

i would link sushi list neko but he asked for comps

[undone plover]

here

[cobalt rapids]

fair enough

[boreal wagon]

this is correct

[thorn tartan]

My japenses isn't very good.

[cobalt rapids]

luckily its in chinese

[sweet delta]

[cobalt rapids]

light medium heavy from top to bottom

[undone plover]

just use google translate

lion rly broke the game

was zwei as dominant on release?

[thorn tartan]

the fleets look very similar.....

[undone plover]

there are other sections that show a bit more variety

[thorn tartan]

what about the vanguards?

[undone plover]

there isnt because main fleet dictates vanguard to a certain extent
if u mean for these fleets i dont think it is listed but should be a combination of z52/trafalger/eldridge/plymouth
maybe a few more

[fiery swan]

Is Monarch aug any good?

[cobalt rapids]

aurora z52 trafalgar eldridge plymouth unzen
depending on armor and survabilities reqs

[fiery swan]

The barrage doesn't look significantly different though...

[sweet delta]

The barrage looks the same

...but is it?

[elfin hollow]

Hi!
I see they're doing the Unzen and Owari Reruns now, but looking at the event list, weren't they doing the Clemenceau and Painlevé Reruns before? Or have they already done that?

[eternal basalt]

Where do you see Unzen rerun announced?

[undone plover]

both reruns havent happened
chronologically should be clem > unzen events but i dont think anything has been announced yet

the current announcement is for a new event

[sweet delta]

You can see here for how good Monarch is #media-content message

[elfin hollow]

When they do the Call to Arms it's always before a big event or Rerun, right?

[undone plover]

yes this time it is for a new event
i dont think the rerun CtA get announced

[eternal basalt]

Big event: Yes, rerun: No

[elfin hollow]

ok, thanks and sorry

[forest palm]

CTA are rolled into the rerun rather than a week

[reef flume]

This is CtA for JP anni

[fiery swan]

@sweet delta I don't recognize #19 from top 30 BBs, and is Andrea Doria Meta really that high up???

[undone plover]

it is massena https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Masséna

[cobalt rapids]

19 is massena

[fiery swan]

I failed to get her

[cobalt rapids]

no biggie

[undone plover]

the full info is here btw #gameplay-help message

[cobalt rapids]

i thought the full info is in the vid

[stark quiver]

What is the name u guys call yuudachi meta
Gauge-meta
Tsubaki-meta
Chun-meta
Or poi meta

[cobalt rapids]

moi

[thorn tartan]

Alsace is almost out of the meta.......already

gimmie my ring back!

[cobalt rapids]

alsace dominates EX still

[thorn tartan]

it's worth oathing her just to get rid of the ugly black mask

[cobalt rapids]

buy her skin and get rid of the clothing aswell

[thorn tartan]

i want that skin

[stark quiver]

also is there anyway to counter a special burn

[thorn tartan]

plymouth was ahead of her time

[thorn tartan]

Laf2?

[boreal wagon]

if this is about yuudachi anything that interacts with burns interacts with hers as well (special doesnt mean its something like lion's lionflame)

[atomic abyss]

laff2 is more AA+tank and much less support

[undone plover]

laff2 is rarely used in meta fights or dps fights
she is mainly a campaign boat

[stark quiver]

what does that mean?
fire extinguisher?

[boreal wagon]

that would be one of the examples

[stark quiver]

oh so hers is like a normal burn

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt eldr invuln burn dmg

[boreal wagon]

thats what i just said yes

[stark quiver]

oh

[thorn tartan]

no mecklenberg on the meta list. she is listed no. 2 on sushigummy's video of dmg dealing bbs

[muted crescent]

ok bro I never knew Warspite acc had good DPS with lion gun 💀

[cobalt rapids]

they didnt get to mcmecklen yet probably yes

[boreal wagon]

she should yeah

[cobalt rapids]

i know

[muted crescent]

Is Warspite even good for mobbing?

[atomic abyss]

not particularly

she will be good on account of raw dmg
but not particularly good

[thorn tartan]

i haven't worked on lion yet, i have high expectations now. thanks for the help, i'm off

[atomic abyss]

you probably should