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I'd say Boss > Mob in terms of general priority but it also depends on who would need it the most
enty > shinano for example
but give it to any carrier that ure currently using because u shouldnt glue limited powerful gear to ships that are not in use
+equipment will change depending on what enemy you are fighting, who is in your fleet etc
rainbow does not always mean the best
between those for a boss fleet what would be my best option?
what content ?
boss fleet in what content
campaign
chapter ?
13
warspite enterprise shinano
Tysm @haughty skiff @cobalt rapids
is indepence more for mobbing? or just not good enough
warspite / enty / shinano boss
fdg / unicorn / indep mob
she can do both
bois instead of 5* fdg for mobbing in ch13
if its for pushing lethal maps
fdg gonna tke a while to dev30 sadly, but ty okay!
oh shit i didnt notice the stars
is triple cv ok or do i need a bb? for mobbing
ch13 triple cv is doable
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT that for the level??
theres no suicide boats in ch13 and tons of planes so cvs have an edge over equally powered bbs
often this you grind yourself
-# air power
They get higher. Kearsage is 2.4mil. You stack it way faster than think
triple is doable but
everything keeps stopping whenever i'm on exercises and i'm on mumuplayer this time
interesting ty
yeah, it isnt difficult if you know what you're doing; like i did this in 24 hours since i was coin farming
also after ive done all of these how do you keep getting the currency?
nah CDP is pretty limited in how you get it
for mobbing at least
for boss bbs good because taihou is rocking 600 AA
exercises?
Taihou also has 2 mob ships that will eat your torps
anyone has a fix? last time it happened was on bluestacks and i got told to go on mumu to fix but now idk what to do
speed-ups are limited in supply but you shouldnt be using them as speed-ups, you should be analysing them to get blue protocores.
you really want to get the UR gear instead from the protocore store
interesting; ldplayer ruined pvp for me until i changed to mumu. never had any crashes after that disastrous mandatory update
try restarting emu and attempt to do it again
i know i analyze everything but i was wondering, since the only place where that currency comes seems this handbook, how do you get htem later on
you don't.
only supply I know of is from cruise missions for series 4 only
battlepass, anaylising catch-ups ; after that it just runs out
oh so you need to spend them carefully, damn
cruise mission have pr4 or so catchup stuff lol. thats the only guaranteed way to get these outside the one-time missions that give these.
eh, just eat the CDP if you want, after a point you don't have much need for Protocore
would heavily recommend doing this if you havent done your pr1 / pr2 catchups;
https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/#catch-up_min_max
damn i spent some i hope i can get the 109g, already got tenrai and triple 406mm
but how am I supposed to increase it? Getting 2,000,000 EXP from the shipgirl is extremely slow.
but no way you can get 2 rainbows right
it gives you enough to get the Tenrai from the protocore store, which is the only mandatory pickup from the store
Is this good?
it's trash
useless outside of cargo ships which are also useless
Kashino gear 
what would be my 2 vanguards for ch13? im tempted to just wait to dev30 anchorage before going tho
Okay so there's a lot to it.
The stage, the amount of ships you use, the faction and if it is vanguard / main all matter.
No Cheshire ?
nop
portland laffey eldridge
agir helena sandy
laffey? first time i get recommended her
a triple CV mob fleet and 2x CV 1x BB should be enough AA wise 
its a fill slot but u dont have anything better 
ig
just cause she is 125 or she decent?
shes decent and shes 125
it's world 13 the bar isn't exactly that high
eldridge ofc post retrofit
which should be available in a few days
Ayanami is only good if you manual
portland deals more dmg and u dont need prinz tankiness with eldridge off tank
How long did it take you to get 2,000,000 exp?I never manage to complete it without the skip
aya is manual torp memes which isnt at all wanted in w13
portland / prinz are both mid but portland does more damage and eldridge is tanky as well
Portland doing more damage isn't saying much if at all
comparing a dry pool noodle and a wet pool noodle
You're either not at the point in the game where farming cdc exp is reasonable, you're not using valid ships, or you barely play. Those are the three possible explanations.
if anchorage available same thing but anchorage instead of portland?
I use ;
3x Iron Bloods Vanguards in 12-4 (or 2 if i'm grinding coins in 14-4)
Have them in the dorm for increased morale
Have their Main Fleet be mid so they might pickup MVP
Play until i no longer get additional EXP from bonus morale
This combined gets me like 2 - 4% per sortie
is this decent on auto?
ya it's just a more expensive SSR Quad Mag
its 2nd/3rd best on auto yes
just look at it as a side grade to the Quad Mag commonly used
I play every day, but I don't understand much of the game content.I play on the surface without really understanding
and is this better than kit on laffey?
What chapter are you on right now ?
-# lurk more
No
here
wait laffey has her own augment, didnt know
i wouldnt craft it
im gonna make a thread since you should learn the game at this point
unless u rly like laffey
Azur Lane 101
i dont no
is main gun ok? or some purple ones are better
You can add me as a friend, it's no problem.
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
I don't say no to an Azur Lan coach
I already made a thread so others can jump in - i pinged you in it
if u dont have these then its fine
i do have these
I don't have many people in Iron Blood,
please use the thread
just keep the twin 100 its fine
between the last 2 and twin 100 theres no big diff and laffey benefits from extra firerate
also holy fuck what am i looking at give me a minute
for meta bosses taht get readded, are they weaker?
all the same; its you that keeps getting better and better
uh mostly its with the new URs (lol) and better gear since then
-# ideally you should have stronger fleet and gear by the time the bosses re-run
are those 1200 oil comissions worth doing?
no
hell no
Nope
you'd get better value out of that oil by farming oil capped maps than that comm
got it
The only one worth doing is the one that gives cubes, but that commission never refreshes until you run it, so you run the cube one once if you have it and then never touch it again.
is it worth grinding for the SR ships chance on ..-4 stages?
with 6 vanguard Eagle Union it's only 2-3 days to be honest. Can be faster than that too
generally no unless you wanna chase collection %
choukai is the only exception to that i guess 
I see a lot of ships that aren't MLB 
I gotta make sure they're good inv3stments first
Second fleet vanguard is newly leveled since I saw they're all high on the tier lists
Only Sirius is useful of those in the 2nd fleet's vanguard and not until end game specific fleet comps.
Eugen is just a sponge and Adalbart is replaced by dozens of others, tanks are plentiful.
Never split bulins between characters. MLB them one at a time.
are tanks actually plentiful 
There's like half a dozen from PR/DR available at all times, then another half dozen high end ones from builds.
which is not readily accessible
that eugen can last for a very long time until you have anchorage running
Oh I meant first image yeah I know eugen and adalbart aren't amazing
people are too quick to throw out a MLB Eugen
Only Sandy in that first pic has any use.
what you should do is keep eugen, unicorn, hood, drop the rest
unless you have a lot of gold bulins, then you can keep a few more
I heard san diego chak and the cool eyepatch one are good though
yes they are good, at max limit break
using too many gold ship will lead to gold bulin wall, you can't max limit break them all
and non max limit break ships are useless, dead weight
Especially non PR/DR ones that level cap and waste exp once there too.


i've come to ask, switching it back and forth, fleet 1 is for the boss, fleet 2 is for the mob fleet, should i switch out anything?
yes, switch out perseus
Your Guam, Percy, and BizZ are useless.
a lot of things need to be changed too other than ^
Make a thread and post your dock; seperate it by Main and Vanguard
You have a lot of issues with both compositions
honestly im still broke and don't have much ships, just only MLB'd shinano with a dupe and my only bulins, so i'm just asking for composition
let wormhood fix your issue
he'll make your hood transform from worm into a butterfly
You likely don't have the resources to be running two fleets.
And i can help you, you don't need expensive ships; Just make a thread and i'll pop in and move stuff around, ect
You don't need two fleets until much later, like W9 / W10+ ; even then you can just brute force one fleet due to level advantage.
You also shouldnt split bulins, ect.. its better to invest in long term units fully then averaging it out amongst mediocre ones
fleet comps
in which chapter
when is the next UR banner?
the 11th
where is Aquila acquired? is that a research ship?
AQL is a gacha only ship
it's possible for her to be in the pool 
it just depends on what pool the UR and other ships are sharing from 
it's extremely rare for event pools to share from the Light Pool btw
you can go to collection and sort by unacquired and click on them to show where you can get the ship btw
im in the middle of repeating sorties so I can't do much in game, but I appreciate the advice
12-4
iirc 11-1 is better as for like a 5%~ less xp you're saving like 5 oil per battle and 8 per boss battle
11-1 is harder to raise low end, and it doesn't drop cog chips, so while it may be more oil efficient it is still worse than running 12-1 or 12-4
I mean they are just asking about XP tho no mention or ask about other stuff so
doesn't matter, if you have access to it you run world 12+
it's just more beneficial
i have 5 bulins n a shinano dupe, can i mlb shinano now and leave the other 4 for the new ship?
Probably better to wait until you get another shinano dupe from perma pity buildup. UR bulins are very in demand for new players.
I'm not that new
wait for new ur
like i have a dupe n need to use a bulin to mlb her, then the other 4 are for the new ship
save it imo
maybe not in terms of account age but in terms of progression I'd very much say you are
Odds are a double UR event
no they're not
when does the new ship come out?
Save the bulin
11th.
1.5 weeks
Two weeks is not far away. This is a game where reruns are measured in multiple years ahead.
you'll be okay
guh ๐
he has 5 UR bullins pretty sure it's still okay for monthly reset
huh
The point is that UR bulins are so heavily timegated he's looking at over a year worth of catchup on them, and he will get a shinano dupe in due time guaranteed if he doesn't roll one by chance during event builds.
There's just no reason to rush it.
They also have an Alsace to work on who I would put as much higher priority for UR Bullins
No sign of amagi or haku
you can't chance on a Shinano from event builds but yeh
how big of a priority is it to grind 20k pvp currency for eldrige?
Not during UR events but regular events w/o UR in the pool you can.
perm URs are simply not in event pools at all
considering now that the retrofit item is rerunning very high
time to grind then
not as if the retro item disappears from your inventory so you have room 
Really? Do event builds that aren't for UR build-up pity count?
yes but they do not drop URs
I guess I assumed that since they counted towards pity they were in the pool.
everyone is saying the new one is gonna be better then Aslace
anyone who says that is an idiot
we don't know anything about the new UR, if she's a main fleet then there might very well be a chance but we simply don't know
either way the point is you have plenty of more important things to spend UR Bullins on, Shinano is not even a consideration right now
so its just a waiting game to see if shes worth working on
she'll almost certainly be worth working on
should i have spent bulins on perm ships...?
just a question of her or Alsace first
no, you should not have
No one knows if the upcoming UR will be a BB or not, ect..
I doubt it's Yamato given Lion's release this year and Amagi CV last year, so my personal bet is on somesort of IJN Plymouth-Kaza-Hybrid-esque character 
oh that's great
I hope for everyone's sake it's not yet another UR BB, we don't need 4 in a year
Like genuinely does IJN have any other UR BBs left aside from Yamato ?
no
there's the unfinished 4th Yamato class without getting into any really papery stuff
do i just use my main story fleet for pvp?
I feel like it just doesn't ; maybe somesort of Nagato II or Akagi / Kaga II if they really want but that'd be weird to release it after Amagi CV
I didn't know there was a 4th Yamato class tbh
I hope it'll be a UR CL personally
so basically, ur Bulins should only be used on non perm ships?
pretty much
I mean.... iirc that counts as paper too since it was not laid down. But again, they have been doing a shit ton of paperships these last months for URs so it's not stuff we can exclude
I think we'll get a DD this year
in pvp unless you're sweaty you only really fight people with incomplete or meme fleets for ez wins
While you're progressing you use whatever ships you have leveled in pvp.
My money is on a IJN CL that powercreeps Plymouth & Kaza in mixed IJN
it was laid down
not very much but it at least had construction started
my money is on just wait for the bloody stream
currently at 14.5k so im almost there, but my option is south dekota and not eldrige
I see. Anyway I think we'll get a DD or maybe a cruiser
sodak is ๐ฎ
unless you just mean sodak is the one you have on rotation, in which case just wait for Eldridge to rotate in
then wait for eldrige
you want to have the merit to get her as soon as she shows up anyway so not having her on now is a good thing
wait how many cubes should i have before the new UR
ideally 400
damn
400 for pity but i mean any amount is better then none
if you want to be able to pity by end of event you'll need to have around 200 by this point
i got 76 rn
how manywhite shells should i buy before picking up a ship from the core shop?
at least
yes
Just do the handbook tutorial
Pray then for good rng 
400 for pity
statistically you are likely to hit the UR in 200 cubes but thats just hoping for average rng
400 is safe, 200 is risky but has good odds of getting it unless you get unlucky
2 or 3 is fine, if you're still one-fleeting then just 1 for your main BB but ultimately you want 3
i might needa fork out some cash if i don't get the ship (jk)
does the ur pity ever reset or does it stay till you hit 400
I'ma be honest here, I've spent gems before on coin/cubes to pull before i'm not proud of it
event UR resets, perm UR persists but caps at 400 points
Considering that independence is the only good ship there, and she absolutely needs retrofit, and there are so many ships to retrofit before her like unicorn Portland Essex Eldridge, just keep buying shells until you have 3 white and 2 black
as have i brother
istg i know JP is expecting impact from this upcoming UR due to a rare IJN-not-optimal meta we're in right now
I've only spent gems on skins, coins, and cubes
I know JP gives no shit about meta so they can give us whatever
i have one if each and 2k core so ill buy 1 of each when the shop resets
JP cares about their faction holding a deathgrip on the meta 
and I'll repeat just wait for the bloody stream, we have no idea what's coming
most JP players don't even build meta fleets, they just make bad IJN fleets
go ahead and wait, theres no harm in us speculating
speculation is over in #al-general
well actually there is continuing to do so in this channel
alright 
how many retrofit did we get last year? i'm wondering if there will be more rainbow retrofit this year
oh another retro huh? during jp anni?
it's possible, we don't know, but it's just not likely to be a UR one
gotcha
I can still count on one hand the amount of the UR retros we have
probably not a good idea to save 3 gold ships then for stuff
you'll know in like 5 days and 20 hours just wait for it 
i remember sandy warspite yudachi eldridge and essex not sure if missing any
that's it
we've essentially nearly gotten one UR retro a year
no we haven't
i forgot was yudacchi ever meta? essex seems like the one with the least impact currently
wasn't warspite retro back in 2019 of december tho?
chat is this real?
when she released all we had as far as URs were FDG, Azuma, Drake, Agir, Haku, NJ, Shinano, Shima, and Sandy
there was a huge gap after spoot before Yuudachi, and another big gap since Yuudachi until Eldridge
the DDGs hadn't even released yet
UR Retros are just inconsistent, 2/5 have been for Global Anni and Yuudachi was after JP Anni , then the two ancient ones from 2018 JP / 2019 Global
Yuudachi was good for a while I wouldn't say meta
and bear in mind the research queue would still be another few months off so getting DRs to dev 30 was a right pain
cause it felt like shima was released pretty close to her
they released at the same time more or less
i mean dr is still a pain for the most recent research

Anyone pls tell me what is the size of the azur lane app now
Yuudachi happened with Shimakaze didn't it, so we ended up with a gun DD vs a torp DD
yep
25 gb i think?
22.63 gigs for my phone
these were the early days of W14 too, so we'd take any good vanguard ships we could get
Holy
22+ on my phone, android, should be bigger on fruits
at least you don't have to consider waking up in the middle of the night just to keep the researches going
ok yeah that is really true
DR is only a pain if you want to worry about it
I just know my DRs will statistically finish in about 4-6 months when I pick the right researches and be done with it
i mean before i would say dr was like 20% better than ships you would from gacha
considering I still have no idea what I'll do with GL I'd have to disagree
she's probably great for campaign but anything that doesn't make OS mobbing faster or get used in harb/showdown fleet is kind of whatever
thats why i said before, and gl kinda proves that
and napoli isn't that urgent as well
regardless there's no need to worry as long as you stick to optimal research picks
statistics works itself out
Have you seen a c5 speed run with dev 20 leeuw?
show
not dev20 yet, is it the airstrike?
I haven't seen it
masterful bait mr suchi

I mean I wouldn't be surprised if there was some combination of ships with that airstrike that'll make for fast OS runs but 
which gun do i use for sandy?
for future reference; https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide
give her Harbin gun (Twin 130 Proto)
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
why not tashkent gun ?
If a Light Cruiser can use a DD Gun then you give them a DD Gun
Tashkent / Harbin Gun are similar , they already have it on Azuma so it doesnt really matter
If they really want too then they can swap them around but it's same modifers, same additional FP & Reload. Only difference is Tashkent gun doing 1 more damage per bullet
Which isnt gonna make or break your fleet
so those two are basically interchangable
the tashgun has one more base damage and the other has a bit more range that's it
what about this one?
again, I refer you to the guide
slightly faster fire rate for barrage trigger? or the dps is lower
my dude
Its in the guide i linked in the reply i gave you 
You can match the very unique picture to the in-guide image and figure out generally what it's good for and why
yeah i've read it relax, i'm just asking if the faster fire rate is worth the more frequent barrage procs
if we haven't bothered to list it for something probably not
^
that's fair thanks
hey i am sorry if this has been asked a lot but as a f2p where should i prioritize spending my gems?? maybe a couple of slots at dorm and a couple on training and the rest on dock space??
/gems
Gem Spending 101
Gems
in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.
As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.
Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.
This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:
- 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
- Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
- Dock space (remaining gems)
The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.
The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.
Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).
Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).
While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money ๐ณ.
@warm wadi ^
tldr ; buy 3rd dorm slot, then 2nd dorm floor, everything else on dockspace.
thank you kind sir ๐
is there a ballpark figure on around how much dockspace is enough
i think it's one of those you can never have enough ๐
No not really
I mean I have 850 and it still gets full a lot
WHAT i'm managing with 150 but i constantly have to retire ships
but i also don't have that many ships
Currently have around 800 slots, get as many as the girls you got + some extra breathing space
the gem cost racks up pre quickly ngl if you keep buying slots
So I didnt realize I should only awaken end game ships to 125, how few of the mats for 120-125 do we get? how much have I set myself back by doing the awakening on my starters
Idk I have only like a thousand left
I feel your pain. Hiei META was my first 125 since I didn't know any better lol
But itโs somewhat limited, so spend wisely
I have penny at 125 and im not even using her XD
Cog Chips aren't terrible, you're expected to get basically every ship to 120 at somepoint
Cog Arrays though is kinda a yikes; You can only get very few from end-game Dailies, Events and Core Data. You get one-offs for stuff like Faction Tech & hitting firsts
How many did you 125 ?
125 currency is abundany compared to 100-120 cough
my first 6 ships, helena, uni, portland, z-23, penny and yumia
125 currency is worse to waste but you dont use as much of it compared to cog chips, so it does also depend on where your account is and howmuch
I'm about to push to world 13, should be able to make it later today
Unicorn & Portland aren't wastes
Itโs only 6 ships
Portland def is
oops wait i typed port lmao
you meant helena
unicorn and helena* arent wastes
and anyway, you dont need 125 for W13
but you only get 3 a day from the level 95 daily raid plus 50 from the core data shop and 50 every other month from the event shop
ultimately you're new so it wont really matter, you should start looking into PR at this rate given you seem to still be using 1 fleet with Penny
3 a day x3 = 9
is it only from the level 95 raid, im pretty sure the 60 one doesn't give any
I'm level 92
yes
yeah; you basically get 270 / month , 320 if you include Core Data
and cost per rarity is on the base ship not retrofit status correct?
for some context a UR costs 225 Arrays to 125
I'm looking at the table right now
Retrofitted ships are classed as their non-retro status rarity
for stuff like chips / arrays, ect
You'll be fine in all honesty
yeah it's only like 300 chips I kinda wasted
none of your ships need 125, save it for UR backline
I doubt you're cracking open a DR every month and needing to count your Arrays atm, you shouldnt use anymore and just save + get them in events
125 Good mainfleets firsy
no, sorry, my anxiety irl makes me worry about stupid shit in games
I will do that when I get any
eldridge still lower priority than mainfleet
Donโt worry I have 71 ships at 125 and a third of those are questionable 125s
save your arrays since you're not pushing content that needs it at this point
im guessing nina friede isn't good enough to want to keep as a backliner long term?
No
shame I absolutely love her design
your focus should be on saving cubes for the upcoming UR and looking into developing your first PR ship / second fleet for W13+
bro relax, i went full Batman on your dock, you can trust me on this
lol, I appreciate all the help
No fleet tech, 100 benched
no one is creating a list of ships safe to 125 either
even then enterprise still works at 120
but I love her pawpaw
either way she is an upgrade to penny so she stays until I get something good
I just won't break her past 120
is there any idea of when lion might become available again?
2 years
ok, so what are some decent attainable BB's I can think about till then
FDG
Mori said they went through your dock but i'd just say focus on PR
Yamato
yeah, i'm all set up for right now but I'm always kinda looking down the road and trying to learn, part of me asking is also because then I figure out why stuff works or why it's better so then I have a better concept for figuring it out on my own
FDG & Anchorage are solid top PR picks for W13 / W14
Have you read the PR guide ?
PR will be your best friend as a newbie who wants to catchup
yeah, I'm doing the progression as advised
now that I'm in 12-1 I need to work on iron blood vanguard for roon combat data xp
Imo i'd recommend doing the PR Catch-up MinMax since it just makes sense and isnt that difficult
that's in the community gc page right?
Yeah, its not required but recommended
tbh all I did was slot STL as my catchup and set research to 7 like the guide said at start, I haven't checked up on it since
it'd probably be worth getting sorted now that I don't need more BP's for her
You sacrifice low-value PRs for Protocores, then use those to get UR PR Gear that will be far more valuable in the long term then the PR girls
Also you can always use coins so it'll take 1 Month to make Roon Dev30, ect..
The downside is you need to develop Roon and then use the catchup on her since you cannot convert blueprints to protocores if the ship it's for is not Dev30
You cannot coin-up IF you have prints, prints take priority
^ Yeah, it's why you have to do it in a weird order
How worth is this
https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/
https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/#catch-up_min_max
You should set your research to PR8 imo ; PR7 isn't bad but its more niche
Since PR8's DRs are usable by themselves, PR7's DR CV is great but really wants Soyuz which makes her difficult to slot in anywhere
I don't think I can do this quite yet as I'm locked into researching roon and can't PR a ship from a different set yet
plus I don't have fleet tech for anything good
You can;
You don't need to actually have the fleet tech, that isnt the point of researching a high PR
You don't need the fleet tech to research them
to set the PR as your research priority isn't locked to anything
no sorry I think wires are crossed here
Are you confused with the minmax guide ?
yeah, it says to set your catch up to any season that doesn't have coin or a PR, so I picked FDG right
wormhood is talking about setting your research focus, not the list of missions required to unlock the ship itself
yeah I set my research focus to 8, I set my catchup to FDG, but I can't research a S2 PR because I'm doing roon and I don't see a way to stop and switch
Okay you're skipping ahead a step
Its fine that you cant research a PR2 ship; you will be doing PR1 first
how it's the second step
Once you finish developing Roon you will use coins to increase her dev level. So you will be researching PR8 and have you catch-up on FDG
It will take 1 Month to take Roon from Dev0 -> Dev30 with coins, I think it can be a bit faster if you do 15/day.
Once Roon is Dev30 you will then go into the PR Catchup -> Pr1 and then set it to Roon
By this point your FDG Catchup is already done and you will have enough Techpoints to develop her due to Roon's Dev30 also providing a big chunk of IB Tech
So you will unlock FDG and use your 150 Prints, then coin her; 10/day for like 1 Month 1/2.
When Roon's Catchup is done you can convert the 300 Blueprints into 1,500 Protocores.
Then you can make a choice; Develop a PR2 Ship (Gascogne for French Tech) and repeat that first step, but instead of FDG Catchup it could be Plymouth / Kearsarge / Hidenburg.. ect
ok, I was getting hung up on developing a ship of the same pr season
or wait am I misunderstanding the wording, it's the ship I want to use their blueprints to convert for protocores then
you catchup a DR (FDG) or like a high-PR ship (PR5 / PR6) whilst unlocking Roon
instead of doing catchup on the active ship you're developing, you wait till you can coin it
instead of doing the catchup on the active ship, you instead do it once that ship is done
Pref. both since PR/DR are seperate
right but you can only do catch up on one right?
Catch-up yes, coin-up no
The catch-ups are one at a time
By the time you as a newbie unlock Roon and develop her to Dev30, your FDG Catchup will be done
so when you're saying both, you mean I should be coining both
(or atleast gget the free 2 per type per day)
PRs / DR coin-up is seperate, yes, but it'd be difficult for you as a new player to really speedrun those.
It's also why i mentioned going from Roon (PR) -> FDG (DR) -> Gascgone (PR) -> ect...
since your FDG won't be done before you unlock Gascgone
so you can develop them both at the same time
If you follow the MinMax then you do need to do a small detour and pick a PR2 ship and Gascgone just makes the most sense due to being French, which is something you will need for future characters like Brest / Bayard
actually hm she is Vichya
not Iris Libre
eh PR2 Golds are so powercrept that getting the Vichya Tech makes the most sense incase we ever get a Vichya DR / Useful PR (not Flandre)
ok, thank you for explaining
Once you hit PR4 you can actually use the Catchups for the PR you're developing
you can totally just eat PR3 catch up for Protocores btw 
yeah you can eat PR3 too and get 4,500
but the minimum it recommends is 3,000, which is 1 + 2
the DR and PR in PR3 aren't worth investing in nowadays 
Its like just Cheshire and even then she got powercrept by like
Guam, PR8 ElfWoman, Sandy R
Shimanto
But are they hot catgirls?
also @red hawk Do not use the speed-ups
yeah I messed that up right away on Saint Louis
you can turn those into Protocores
You still have the ones for Pr2+ ?
gonna assume you do
In total if you eat PR1 + 2 , and convert all PR2+ Speed-ups and all the Battlepass speed-ups you will have 7,200
That is enough to get 2 UR gears and 3x Champ Guns, which will be a major powerboost for endgame
I don't know? how can I tell what the ones for pr2+ look like?
Check your Depot
Just see if you have any speed-ups in there, i cant remember if you can use advanced PR speedups on lower PRs since they just dont get used like that normally
I guess maybe I'm confused what you mean by speed ups, you mean the combat data packs?
Yeah, the combat data packs
I've converted all the packs to cores already
I started buying the stuff for a tenrai, i have half the ones I need
ive been analyzing them from depot after I learned to not use them to speed up exp on ships, luckily I think I didn't burn too many because it happened fairly early on and I didnt have as many, I have a lot more to get from the missions in handbook
so I currently have like 30 some prints for STL, and she's capped on fate sim 4 till level 100 (1 level to go). Should I just coin the rest and analyze these blueprints for cores?
is stl saint louis ?
u should analyse bps for s1-3 as soon as they are coined to d30 yes
yeah im sorry I'm a baseball fan and I'm not used to typing out Saint Louis It feels wrong
you can call her sanrui most vets know what that is
np, ive just never seen saint louis shortend to STL, we usually call her sanrui
Does grind exp in operation siren actually count for trying to complete the data collection in shipyard?
yes but you can always see the progress off the xp at the shipyard if you doubt
Oh ok
so I need IB vanguard combat xp, I was thinking maybe levelling prinz eugen/z1 and somebody else but i don't know who to use for IB cruisers
the only ones I even have are Admiral Graf, Hipper, and Nurnberg
why do you need cruisers
and anyway the only one of those 3 that gives good tech is graf spee
Idk? I just kinda saw that most of the high damage stuff I have been recommended was cruisers so I was going off tank DD cruiser
I just need to level some IB for roon research and get some IB fleet tech for the next ship
also, wanted to ask if I should use the special general blueprints I have on FDG or save them for a later ship
General rule is to only use the blank BPs for the highest season that they go up to
Especially since all of PR1-4 is coinable
yeah I didn't realize I should be doing mostly coining on my first ship, i'll be doing that from now on
I didn't use any rainbow blanks but I used all the gold
don't generalize too much by hull type
and grinding in W12 is so easy I'd priortize tech over using a bad ship over a slightly worse ship
Should I go get some IB ships from that war archive?
you probably need to for FDG, Agir, and so on
which is why I wanted to double dip on doing roons combat data with some IB fleet tech, which one is it?
huh
I know there's a specific IB fleet tech friendly war archive, but dont remember the name
Divergent Chessboard
eHP calcs
figures
I took one look at how to calculate ehp and said "NOPE I am NOT doing that shit for shipgirl game"
Trust me, please - it's a lot more simple than it looks.
The only real problem I've found with eHP calcs is the very high number of different people who will tell you that you're wrong.
Who do I need to replace
one of the foxes for Unicorn
might wanna progress a bit more in the main campaign though before you farm the WAs
not exactly easy meeting the stat requirements when you're so low on ships
or someone saying theyll make one better than you ๐
Anyone better than unicorn?
nope
Should I replace Portland lafffey or Helena?
no
i started kearsarge research, so what are some good ships i could level while i'm at it? already got enty, sara, essex and nj at 125. I'm already got independence at it, so i have 2 free spots for main fleet
just go for tech ships if you have nothing you need to use
are there any ships that give more tech? or is it only based on rarity?
when I say tech I mean the stat bonuses mainly
That wasn't him, actually. It was ciathel that said that.
Riceist is good and honest with whenever he talks to me about eHP.

how do I farm war archives? is there a guide for what levels to clear and what to run?
oh god, the more you know ig. but yeah based on bonus makes sense, just dont know really which bonus to go for really, might go with intrepid for aviation
and like... do I need to 3 star or just clear the early levels
you get nothing out of 3*
but yeah, thanks a lot
skip A and B stages , click hard mode and do c and d stages
dont 3*
Is the guide for W15 not anymore on the bot commands? I might just be blind
hit and/or reload tech for main fleets and then AVI/FP is usually the order
/guide
Guides to Azur Lane
If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
๐น English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564
Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:
- Newbie Tips
- Common Resource Guide
- Research Guide
and more!
If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
๐น META Chronicles by pilica12
๐น Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma
Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:
- Chapter 14 and 15
- Challenge Mode
and more!
Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with
it's apart of suchi's guides
Oh thanks!
i see, thanks
tbh, now that im back to the game and finally 'tryharding' or should i say more like trying to minmax a lot of stuff its so much fun
Is getting VIT-2 worth it?
which one and getting it how
do you know offhand if there are levels I can do with a 1-1 fleet or should I bring everything on hard mode
these are the current opsi missions that i have left
use siren scanning facility
use siren data logging tower
perform reconnaissance
which one of them can be done through repeated cycles of the map in secured zones
all 3 of them
Which one?
the white one from PR5 or the blue one from PR7?
Pr5
what do they look like
Not bad on paper but not worth going out of your way to get
doing recon just means picking up the adapts which autosearch does automatically anyway
what abt the data logging and scanning facility
they look invisible, they appear next to anomalous weather
both of them are farmable in safe zones
i did 1:1 for the entire hardmode stages
unless theres hull restriction
Which are better
i see
- Wyvern is a direct upgrade with additional AA interception capability
- Breguet is worse damage wise, but has the same interception capability as Wyvern so it's overall better
- And the blue version from PR7 is a converging TB which is one of the three main TBs for OpSi bossing comps
How do I get more commander level XP?
grinding mainly
ship XP yes, commander XP no unless your commander level greatly dwarfs the levels of the enemy
Is there a way to farm for the cog arrays to awaken for 125? Or are they just in the various shops?
outside of the level 95 tactical training raid no
you can generalize by cruiser vs destroyer
where's this from? the only equip guide i saw is a google sheet hellscape
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
You prioritize what they have less of generally. Low hp = give them more. Low eva = give them more. If they already have a lot of HP then more doesn't change much. Same for EVA.
Do boss fleet ships want tool kit? I guess only if they take a lot of damage?
Vanguard units like DD and CL do. Mainfleet no.
CAs?
I can't think of any CAs that use a toolkit for any reason.
Why are some guns named after shipgirls? Are they associated by event or something?
no that's simply the gun they would have carried irl
usually it's named after the class lead but it's usually more who gets released first into the game at this point
Irl shipgirls, if only.
I figured out I could lock my main fleet for reqs and just run a 1-1 second fleet and use it instead
Yes
is the triple 152 mk 25 any good
for a BB secondary sure, wouldn't really use it anywhere else 
which one is mk 25 again
Neptune Gun
Sure, but eh it's not really worth getting when you can just mass produce 155s out of tech crates
ah right XXV is 25...
it's good as a FP stat stick and boat interception up to ch11 (technically 13 but 12 and 13 basically has no boats)
just hold on to it will probably be the to craft from for q152 when that gets added
oh yeah that should be added like
next Jan, right?
hellooo is there a priority order for the golds in PR8?
no, go for whoever you like
they're all pretty eh
better off going for earlier ones instead then?
Kansas is the least eh but she's also a SR/PR BB in a UR BB world so lmao
i haven't unlocked a few rainbows from lower tiers still
I've still got azuma, haku, hinden to do for my rainbows. wait i think azuma is rainbow, might be going crazy
if they keep to their "promised" schedule next lab update should be dec/jan and should include q152
yeah Azuma is rainbow
definetly go for those, esp since all three of them are coinable
at latest it should still come with next CN anniv's lab update
seeing that you don't just randomly pick up neptune guns it's worth keeping than wasting materials to craft
hinden not coinable but the others yeah
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because they're both horny have horns
still don't know how Azuma is EX tier on ECTL
legacy data 
how do you get DR blueprints?
researching
How do I get more of this
weekly pack, OpSi exchange shop every month are your 2 main sources
Hoe many blueprints total do I need to DEV30 PR and DR ships?
/devbp
Operation Siren
the soft cap which is the number you see only limits what you can collect from your canteen
Can that be exceeded?
no
its a hard cap
Does OpSi ship xp go towards PR/DR ship research goals?
So it can't be exceeded
yes
that is the definition of a hard cap
how long does it usually take to get dr ship to lvl 30 development
3ish months without catchup or coining as a best case scenario
probably 3 months-ish if you focus
Can anyone tell me if the Essex retro is better than the Enter?
i think so
yeah she is
Should I get anyone from the ssr bbs in the medals shop?
maybe hood if she's there
Ye
this week is 2-month mark since PR8 launch?
the day the JP Anni event drops yes
-# I'm not finished with the Russian PR8 ship yet
so I did hit almost 1 print/day
also mebot are your proud
no
what gun is the champagne gun again and in which PR can it be found because I wanna buy the bps for the gun in the proto shop?
3
what tech are those 2 again
DD FP and CA eva
What's the best auxiliary for CBs?
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
I have failed mebot 
I forget how to gearing my ships thx cheeky
any tips for w13 hard mode?
have good aa
thanks
if you did w15, just reuse that fleet
oh okay
Ship recommendations for opsi?
whatever you have thats strong lol
May I know what is the best Vanguard FLeet for against Arizona Meta? Should I have 2 invulnerabilty due to her hitting a lot more than some META bosses?
you need something that's fast and durable
so DDs?
Laffey 2, Kazagumo, Eldridge I'd wager is probably the best
but you can get away with a number of other comps
then Mainfleet goes IJN CV?
pretty much
alr thanks 
(#gameplay-help message) i ran this
noted, but I don't have a nakhimov yet
shinano, amagi, implac
maybe run alasce with 460 instead of a slow/stop
i remember doing that back then
then I'll do either 3 IJN or One Alsace, will see for further testing
really is not that difficult to one shot Arizona, either works
any news on new meta?
not yet
Also, can I assume you used Black Shell +White over AFCT and White?
for my video? yes
for aslace? no, afct and white
do you know when
maybe tonight, who knows though

could they stall the reveal till stream 
meta sd ends before stream
how to get parts for this
they already announced Rodney META being added to the meta dossier next update
unless they extend Kawakaze META for another week at the last minute I don't see it
some WA maps but really you shouldn't
Even the gold version isn't worth farming or crafting
they'll probably drop the next news bit within 12 hours 
i sure hope it isnt medium armor
the crack head theory is Light Armor, the cop'er theory is Heavy Armor, but really it's alwyas "oops all medium armor" 
when i pick this
will it only explore the blank one?
or it'll include the one in blue zone too which i already explored?
aaaaaaaaaaaaa thank you this will help alot then 
unless you bought the 5k oil logger though strategic search will be quite useless for explorables
ah i need it to open all exchangeable item in shop
whats a good kms vanguard
z52
depends on what you wanna do
I'm thinking hinden and z52, I would put agir there but I have her in another fleet. I might change her over to this instead but idk a good third kms ship. Was thinking Z1 for the buff to Z52, Z23 retro is way powercrept so idk if I wanna use her. Ngl Z13 and her buffing her own trp stat seems good but she doesnt seem all that great
honestly mostly just opsi at this point
whatever you like, maybe emden if you wanna full IB
Assuming my math is correct without any gear and Z13 being lvl 125 she has 454 TRP and if she gets her lowest buff to trp which is 20% that gives her 544 before any extra gear which is insane

and is she gets the 50% buff its 681 before gear
again assuming my math is even correct lol
it sounds impressive until you realize that even purple IJN DDs have higher torp stat than that base combined with higher torp efficiency
Z13 has 140% torp slot efficiency though
I was using an exaggerated example, beside I don't think there's a sub 100% torp slot eff 
how does le hardi compare as a DD
average gold DD
ya...that's a weird one
My options for dd's is pretty limited
i mean is there any specific reason you want a DD
i find them usefull i guess? do most fleets not use DD's
most fleets use good ships
fleets use what's needed, not by hull type but what is demanded of the content...
what are best auxiliary guns for Lion
ah , well i just hit 10-2 so im not sure if i need to do specific fleet comps yet
campaign it's very standard, 1bb2cv, tank+2. boss can go 2bb1cv sometimes
there's no specific hull needed, other than in hard mode requirement
what else besides plygun
ok thanks
Is the XSB3C worth building?
if +13 yes in some case from I heard versus +10 Helldiver
no it's not
you shouldn't be wasting gold plates on what is transitional equipment
and at +10 it's almost identical to the purple helldiver
fabled +13 helldiver
So helldiver better?
they're the same
so you'd just use the helldiver because you don't have to spend gear lab mats crafting it
2 Light META back to back? in current economy?
In the worst case scenario, she will give us +1 DD FP and + 1 DD TRP.
Ah so it wouldn't be much of an upgrade then?
unless you +13 it no which you shouldn't
yes it wouldnt, your next upgrade is a Tenrai
they both carry the exact same bombs
what this means is IJN UR will be anti-light
and have almost identical reloads, Goldiver is like 0.003 seconds slower or something
Should i stay with the purp trip406 mk6 or is there an upgrade to it
you can upgrade to mk7 in gear lab it is expensive though
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
this thing is paying for itself
question, if I have active or I accepted a daily mission in opsi and do a secure area auto that habe any area, will it prioritize the area with daily mission or no?
~~we get revenue
~~
I just tried it, and it did not go to my region with a daily quest, so it seems it will not.
ic, tnx. what a bummer though

someone tell me how to gear up these ships pls
Could somone help me gear these ships to farm 12-4 for PR ship exp and normal exp
Basically the exact same as you would normally
Cuz 12-1/12-4 is comically easy for lvl 100 ships at safe threat level
A simple reference for what gear to equip in each slot for the most commonly encountered enemy types. Covers main fleet and vanguard weapons and auxiliaries.
In Anchorage's case it doesn't really matter what gun she has cuz her gun damage is quite low, and as for both of them, they'd mainly use the purple triple mag torpedoes or the French twin torpedoes
i personaly suck at gearing ships thats why i asked
Then give that guide I just linked a read
Or the more detailed one by samheart
Or look at ECTL for a general idea
is there a fastest torp reload
the blue one
Out of the two I mentioned, technically it's the blue one that's the fastest but the difference is so minute compared to the purple triple that it doesn't really matter
550 twin right
actually idk who to switch with them in my both fleets, or should i just remake(maybe) cuz its w14 
can't tell without seeing anything from your fleet
Been playing fir years just to know this exists
well im also getting eld retro soon all materials ready
you need a lot more than just those two 
fair...
wait wdym alot more 
show dock, maybe you have better options
ig ima just start a thread then
w14 preparations
If I happen to have enterprise and independence, do I need to raise Saratoga?
I also have indomitable
could be useful, but not necessarily a need
does prinz rupprecht have a fate sim? or just dev 30 is the end?
she does
is it worth using general bp's on? or just coin it?
Is the coredata guide updated ?
Seems like certain things are missing
just coin
it is
what do you think is missing
Breguet
Wait the bot one is the old one
how many weeks till new UR?
It's a recommendation list, not an exhaustive one
If it's not on there it's not even worth considering
Ah I see
still can't get over how damn bright that is
Flashbang Lane
Wait so the improved storage battery is useless?
yes
Incredibly
you'd want snorkel + plans
How about all the planes
the only one that's notable is the 818 and there are enough cvs with slows these days
Really the only two worth considering are on the updated list cheeky* posted
should i buy this ones
I reiterate
Ok
Thanks
that's the thing that allows you to auto hiddens isn't it
This is the latest version of the core data guide
/coredata
Oh updated nice

What
yea but i dont know if its worth it
Damn I must be drunk
I could've sworn I was seeing the old one
also meow?
the old one is more the sufficent , core data barley changes
Got the Breguet moved up among other things
oh dam
As well as some things removed
Never knew independence was good
now you know
All in the retro
She could honestly be moved down to medium priority these days
Not unreasonable
Out of curiosity
When did independence come out and what were the other options
what about black shell? tbh i consider it med priority as well
When the table comes out it might as wel be removed
Retrofit came out mid-2021
For now I'm tenuous thinking it can stay
Probably could drop the red outlines except for white shells
what even is the point of red outline
when the segment is high priority... with red outline that indicate high priority
I found myself wondering, what is a commonly well used off-flag BB? Some nodes demand two BBs or a BB in an non-flag slot.
double high priority 
Priorityยฒ
I read about Rodney Meta as one, but i dont have her
any UR bb
The URs
any bb that can work without needing center for barrage tbh
Unless you're doing something specific, doesn't really matter except for BBs w/ flagship requirements
Should I build Ulrich and Rafaello?
I have other BBs
And more easily available Options?
Define "easily"
๐ Odin lol
there are a few new ships missing, but just filter on ectl lol
Odin is a BC.
nah, soyuz>both of them in term of worthh
I have exactly 3 UR-BB. Bis2, Musa and FdG
use zwei as offflag then
Done. Thanks.
u shouldnt have any problems then unless theyre not raised
also the "off flag" bb slot can be adjusted, it's not fixed
How about kronshtadt
Is she worth building?
almost bottom priority
No
-# Kron slander
...it can be? In hard-nodes and beyond? Good to know
for the dd in medal shop, get kazagumo right
Yes tap the adjust tab
magic
ew dezeven
Hear me groan. But, regardless. Thank you kindly
i was minmaxing hardmode for PR exp ๐ญ
So I have like 3 ur CVs I haven't build
Shinano, implacable and amagi
Which one should I prioritize
How many bullins can you get and what are all of your URs
Both built and unbuilt
For CVs I have Yorktown 2 and fritz built
I have enough to MLB 1
Can you just take SS of your dock
FYI, you also don't necessarily to fulfil all of the restrictions either, just at least 1 for the main fleet and vanguard (if it asks for it). Not always useful but good to know.
Your Implacable is already max limit broken
I feel silly. I clicked through the OpSi exchange shop. Can I access it again?
Yes, bottom left corner of the screen
Can only afford 1 atm. Are anu of these must haves?
Yes, bottom left, on the map page of OP:S
Kazagumo
I mean like enhancing and gears
Cause I haven't really done that for NJ + every after lion
Everyone
Get all of your max limit broken URs to 120 at least
Max their skills, enhance then etc
-# I will pray for your cog chip supply over here
Even Trafalgar?
So should I MLB Trafalgar?
No
Like I said wait until the JP Anni event drops at least next week before deciding
I see
We'll be getting another new UR then
So will it finally be Yamato
Damn will we get a UR ss someday
Eventually
As I said, who knows
You CAN lvl an un-LMBed UR to 120 though
What does the classified file mission logger do
Fancy mission that gives you a bunch of gold plates and 1 selectable UR equipment plan at the end
Gives collection files (and gear)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#File_Zones
So how do I farm material in opsi effectively
Is there like a way?
Or do I aim to clear the shop
Thanks
As it's the start of the month, first clear all zones
guys OpSi data Logger is supposed to give me 90 adaptability to everything right?
yes make sure to use the item in your inventory
ah ic
For passive regen ap, I can gain 50 in 8ish hours right
What's better as an anti everything CV. Yorktown II, Hornet II, Franklin or Enterprise
as in you'll change the gear?
Depending on whatever im facing yes
My current default is Enterprise but havent bothered to try the others to fully know where the others I listed stand in this
york assuming you are using at least 3 eu
which ones should i buy\
Kazagumo
how do i level up fast when i need level 50 for chapter 7
farm highest stage with full fleet
alr
If your fleet is high level enough u can attempt passionate polaris or universe in unison war archive
Is there any way to improve this heavy bossing fleet?
more tenrai, la9
What should I use essexretro for?
w15 support 
I'm still in 12, I guess she's benched for now

