gameplay-help

[undone plover]

Then saratoga/indomitable
Probably sara better overall

[spark patio]

i can keep using vanguard until i find i good one, it ok

[undone plover]

I would replace her
2 week downtime on events
Probably wont find another CV any time soon
And u want to reach ch12 if u can

[spark patio]

then i will go for sara cuz indo need gold bulin

[analog phoenix]

What shall i do in ops ? I only clear monthly, like get the ur gear ?

[random rain]

hello. what's the order of priority for clearing mobs in W14?
BB fleets? DD fleets? BB/DD fleets with the fog? Do I have to make my mob fleet take the flares/lighthouse? thanks!

[undone plover]

Just keep repeating it for gear yes

And gold plates

[undone plover]

Give this a read
Ignore BB if u can
Take lighthouse
No flares

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-detailed

Dd fleets will have subs starting in 14-3
So u want asw gear and good mob composition

But BB fleets are rng and can snipe your backline
So overall recon(DD) fleets easier

[random rain]

Between two/one triangle BB fleets and three triangle DD fleets, are the latter more dangerous? Or are BB fleets really dangerous regardless of the "triangle" level?

[spark patio]

hey fae, do u see any good options for sara?

[undone plover]

If there is any idea/information it will be in that link
I want to say 2 triangle BB is more dangerous than 3 triangle DD if your vanguard can take care of submarines but I cant be sure sry

[undone plover]

Open boxes for hellcat/f4u corsair for fighter slot
Helldiver in both db slots

[random rain]

I see, thanks for the help! I'll probably just try to decrease status to safe before doing a 3-star

[undone plover]

Be sure to use your own subamarines

[spark patio]

...

not even a rare hellcat

[undone plover]

sometimes u can craft if u have the blueprints

check your depot > craft menu

[spark patio]

lacking 1-2 bps for hellcat

[undone plover]

upgrade the helldivers
and then upgrade the fighter when u get it

[spark patio]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[undone plover]

it is fine u will get it soon

and open your T3 eagle boxes if u have any left

[spark patio]

fine, btw my guild shop got restocked, do you have any reccommendations?

about ships

[undone plover]

guild ships only for newbies and later on for collection tbh
and at some point maybe get tai yuan if u have her retrofit item

[spark patio]

oh

[undone plover]

otherwise spend guild coins for Gold plates (gun/plane) and books/cog chips mainly and retrofit mats if u need em

[spark patio]

then i will skip to save guild point

[undone plover]

get your gold plates
and make sure to buy 5 then refresh and buy another 5
u can buy 20 gold plates per week

[spark patio]

like this?

[undone plover]

uh sure but no need to buy the ships any more and the other gear plates (blue/grey/purple) u can skip

gold plates are the biggest prio

these

[spark patio]

i got the shells, where should i use them on?

[undone plover]

and hit this refresh and buy 5 more gold plates

[stark quiver]

nelson zenker

[undone plover]

dont stack 2 white shells together
Put white + black
if not white + radar best when u manage to get enough radar blueprints
this radar

[silk helm]

can i ask when you should use white/black vs white/radar?

[stark quiver]

timing purposes

[undone plover]

very niche cases
mostly when a BB is used in a mixed fleet with CV for bossing

[stark quiver]

or when you want to block a fast firing ship

[slow schooner]

is there a way to get hipper meta other than waiting for event rerun?

[vale spindle]

You can get her crystals from Meta shop but to actually get the first copy you need to wait

[spark patio]

hold up, i only have 1 black shell, i can't use like that breh

[undone plover]

No this is fine

And btw u should take the gun to +10 first if u can

[forest palm]

what a rare sight

[undone plover]

But dont take gear beyond +10

[spark patio]

can i find some other good gears at this point? if not i will lv up it to +10

[undone plover]

The shells and the gun is fine to +10

[spark patio]

the +6 one or +5 one?

[undone plover]

Prioritize the gold rarity shells first

The purple rarity shell can stay +6 tbh

[spark patio]

i will try, i kinda need a lot of plate for aux now

[kindred ingot]

will I be able to buy kawakaze meta crystals when her run is over? or am I just gonna be unable to limit break her until she's added to the dossier?

[wind hazel]

you gotta wait

[clear harbor]

I haven't used a coordinate logger in OpSi before. What do they do? They create a hidden zone for extra rewards?

[stark quiver]

yes

[clear harbor]

So I'd use an R5 logger in an R5 zone, right?

[stark quiver]

no, just go and click on the logger and itll take you to one

[kindred ingot]

welp guess I shouldn't have slacced

[red hawk]

you see the nodes on the map if you're in the overview as well

[wind hazel]

she isnt that great anyway, dont worry about kwkzmeta

[red hawk]

there are a few you have to activate but most just show up on the overmap

[stark quiver]

whats the max tech points

[slow schooner]

oh another question: are tanky ships good for frontmost position no matter their hull type or are they tankier the heavier they get?

as an example will laffey 2 be as good as a tank as azuma?

[stark quiver]

laffey2 is better than azuma

tanks are good for frontmost, and can be any hull as long as they are good at their role

[slow schooner]

ah i see, thanks

[wind hazel]

43745

if im wrong blame wiki

[stark quiver]

might be wrong, but thats fine
unless dimbreath auto loaded it

[wind hazel]

chinese wiki has the same number

🫃🏼 i should have went there, i actually added 1 by 1 from english wiki

[vale spindle]

i think originally it was manually entered but then we automated it using math

[stark quiver]

meths

[agile patrol]

why did a bunch of red blackholes appear on my opsi map and why am i terrified of entering one
how hard are these? what level are the enemies?

[undone plover]

strongholds
easier than hard abyssals
u can leave > heal and go back to fight

[sweet delta]

You can leave strongholds and heal as much as you want before the month reset

[clear harbor]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh dang. I wish I had known that.

[undone plover]

there is 5 bosses and a bunch of mobs u need to fight

[agile patrol]

my fleet

[sweet delta]

188/188/144 adaptability gives the max benefit for stronghold

[undone plover]

trust in lion

[agile patrol]

OH. so you can like
Do a couple ships. Leave. Heal. Go back, and so on? slowly chip away at it?

[undone plover]

pretty much
u can do the same with the boss in the centre (the easy version)

[clear harbor]

Maybe put Lion in flag/middle position?

[sweet delta]

If you manually move on the map, you can skip all the small fry and only fight the bosses

[agile patrol]

yaa i learned about that today
better in middle since it can snipe those bombships

[agile patrol]

That's. Extremely convenient actually

[clear harbor]

Yeah, the game doesn't really explain that well. But now you know!

[undone plover]

lion doesnt need flag
but in this case it is better because she is tankier and if flag dies u lose the battle

[stark quiver]

🔴 🔧

[whole crypt]

practically speaking there is very little reason to skip mobs on strongholds though

I often manual to fight more mobs, not less

what's usually the quickest replacement to Hood

[sweet delta]

💳 Izumo

[whole crypt]

guess I'll stick to grinding that fdg then

monarch aug when

[jovial badge]

since event ended (and im at 5-1 cough cough) whats my biggest priority as a lvl40?

[wind hazel]

raising your commander level

[rapid grail]

clear the stages as high as you can; farm the highest level you can for cmdr xp
get one fleet up to par; focus on one fleet first. 2nd fleet can come right after
go to w9+ asap; here you can go ham with levelling up botes & getting coins
||can go to war archives here and there for better reward/s, can get some KMS ships for the upcoming PR system you'll be doing||

[jovial badge]

world stages right?

[quaint tapir]

get fleet tech for anchorage if you don't have her already
get to world 9 to reach oil cap stages which makes farming coins & leveling significantly smoother
push hard mode around 2-ish stages behind your highest campaign map to maximize core data so you can start getting the mid-late game gear from it faster

[brisk dragon]

i just noticed something.... essex got a retro? her item still obtainable

[jovial badge]

wait wdym with "fleet tech for anchorage"

[quaint tapir]

PR points to begin developing anchorage
if you don't have her it's worth divesting some resources into getting more USN ships up because she's an ace tank & on coin up

[agile patrol]

So. Uh.
I tried. Doing this purple siren thing and
I got destroyed. Like. Actually destroyed. I pressed exit before my entire fleet gets wiped out (Time was running out anyways and I had down to. 35%?)
now what 😭

[jovial badge]

wha

oh wait shipyard right?

[quaint tapir]

ja

[agile patrol]

@undone plover you lied to me!!! i trusted in lion and look what happened!!!

[undone plover]

35% is good tho
lion did well but your vanguard is not tanky enough
u can end the fight and leave > heal at port and come back to finish the boss

it is the final boss so being able to do the rest without needing to heal is amazing actually

[agile patrol]

-# i totally didn't heal like four times or so because i keep getting bricked in the face by every single node i fight

[jovial badge]

ohh

[undone plover]

zoomers complaining when they have lion
so spoiled fr fr

[undone plover]

this is the average newbie experience

[agile patrol]

🧱 ➡️

[jovial badge]

@quaint tapir wait how do i get eagle tech points tho

[quaint tapir]

acquiring EU ships, getting them to MLB, and getting them to lv120
same for every faction

[jovial badge]

a

[agile patrol]

Oh. My God.

It's done.

[forest palm]

seems like a massive skill issue

[undone plover]

now do it for the rest

[jovial badge]

uhh what

[hot turret]

Lmao I thought that was arknight for a sec

[undone plover]

beth is saying farm the highest map u can and keep pushing
u want to reach ch9 where u can make a second fleet and level new ships
at some point (before ch9) u could go to war archive and farm universe in unison or passionate polaris since they offer oil cap before chapter 9 and u want to farm on oil cap maps since it is more efficient

[jovial badge]

ohh alr!

[agile patrol]

what does "Automatically exchange items" in strategic search options do?

Oh the ESD things. Should I have it on?

[vagrant harness]

halpp i cant find the scrapabble gear link on azur lane wiki can anyone send plss

[sweet delta]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[oblique valley]

is there a way to get these 💀

[sweet delta]

@oblique valley not recommended

[rain night]

whats the best way to farm medals?

[sweet delta]

@oblique valley

[oblique valley]

lmao got it, i kinda want the gun for shimanto but eh

[sweet delta]

But since you're on JP, maybe you don't know what E is

[oblique valley]

yup i read a few guides about which projects to do but* i didn't know which one was which 💀

[sweet delta]

The gun is only useful for a Shimanto who is between dev 30 and fate 4 AND who needs more AA

How far into pr6 research are you?

[sweet delta]

Medals just come from retiring ships, so they're not really farmable beyond your daily campaign or event sorties

[rain night]

ok

[undone plover]

wiki page can help
but u need to do a bit of reading
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy

[oblique valley]

you mean ships or gear? i'm about to start w13 so i kinda need aa

[oblique valley]

yeah i wish the jp server had easier ways to differentiate the projects

[jovial badge]

im guessing ships

[rain night]

what does the hit stat do?

[cobalt rapids]

i would move from season 6

[rain night]

from fleet tech

[cobalt rapids]

/accuracy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[red hawk]

is there any reason to get tuning samples after you're over cap for adaptation in opsi

[cobalt rapids]

nope, just losing vouchers

[sweet delta]

Fr you should go focus 7 or 8 https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus/

[undone plover]

not really

[sweet delta]

not really or not at all?

[silk helm]

999 is a cool number

[red hawk]

also, are the gold augment module stones for crafting unique augments only from events?

[sweet delta]

Weekly raid with Belfast on it

[oblique valley]

i've been asking a lot of people but how far will ancourage get me as a main tank? i'm deciding between her and agir

[sweet delta]

They can both tank through endgame, but aegir is a stronger ship who is more expensive to max

[hot turret]

Mmm, when does the new event banner come out? I thought I read it would start the 29th but now I can't find the info anymore

[sweet delta]

Eldridge retrofit is also a tank btw, buy her with 20000 merit when you see her in shop. She's overall better than aegir and anchorage despite tanking a bit worse usually

[oblique valley]

will ancourage get me through like w15/siren/ex stuff?

[oblique valley]

yeah i'm doing her event rn but i legit have no other tanks so if she's on mob then i need another one for my boss fleet and vice versa

[sweet delta]

you should get all of anchorage and aegir and eldridge, because even if one is not the best in endgame, you could use 3 or more tanks for opsi

For who to get first between Anchorage or Aegir, it depends on what other research ships youre coining

[undone plover]

flex is a reason

[oblique valley]

yeah i've spent so much time on this google doc deciding LMAO
honestly none atm other than shimanto but i have enough blueprints for her

[sweet delta]

then stop thinking and just do it, if you're not coining any DR like fdg then build Aegir now

[oblique valley]

legit i have 4 kms vanguards to farm with 😭

[acoustic ravine]

which war archive shuld I farm? or should I just skip them?

[sweet delta]

1. Passionate polaris or Universe in unison are easy oil cap maps if you haven't reached chapter 9 yet
2. Divergent Chessboard drops ironblood ships to help you unlock ironblood research ships

[tribal storm]

you just brought me back to when i had to use elite vanguards for my roon

[oblique valley]

any recs on kms ships that aren't limited 💀

[eternal basalt]

Only CAs for Roon 👴

[tribal storm]

who remembers pre-oil cap farming :D

[acoustic ravine]

oh, I'm already at chap 12 and I'm farming for FDG rn,

[tribal storm]

errrr emden is pretty good i think, nimi kai will do fine for exp farming, and you can use eugen to tank

[oblique valley]

unironically i do, events were so fken annoying always figuring out what was the min amount you needed to get past the earlier stages

[sweet delta]

then war archives are just for your collection

[tribal storm]

who remembers fox mines with phoenix and terror

[oblique valley]

limited...

[tribal storm]

emden is limited???

[left cedar]

people nowadays live in a paradise
farming PR with Oil Cap, can be done with any vanguard, and collect BPs for them is guarantee to be the PR Face one on her research ...

looking back as a dino i'm ... "the time has change charles"

[sweet delta]

3-4 is doable with a 3 oil fleet nowadays

[tribal storm]

shes in the light pool so just do your daily gamba and pray ig 😭

[harsh dove]

Is it better to clear the entire map of Opsi or just farm the cat nodes?

[viscid swift]

clear the entire map

[slow fox]

Napoli is still the eHP queen, yes.

[left cedar]

ironically, both are the same ideal behind
a "small" CA with biig Guns based on Desuland

and both are UR and my Desu still a purpleish weak asf

[slow fox]

-# a small ship
-# AND small eHP
-# delusional

[haughty skiff]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[acoustic ravine]

thanks

I just got anchored and currently coining her rn + farming to get FDG

which PR/DR should I farm next? Agir? or I can just farm whoever I want?

[rain night]

is JP anniversary event gonna give more gems and stuff?

[gilded dune]

I'm trying to run sakura union ships
Is Atago worth using bulins on?

[rain night]

nah

[ivory pawn]

No more gems or other anni rewards, those are for JP.

[weary gust]

Why are you trying to run Sakura ships?

[gilded dune]

I like em

[weary gust]

Faction fleets are not a good strategy, so it is advised to not focus on running them.

[gilded dune]

Oh I kinda figured that'd be the case actually

[haughty skiff]

Are you new, or ?

a new Sakura (IJN) UR is releasing in like 1 - 2 weeks, so you should hold off generally; aside from the UR, the SSRs would generally be better then the permanently available ones anyway

[gilded dune]

New

[haughty skiff]

I did also check your servers; if you'd like a pretty solid IJN BC (Same as a BB) then you can pick up Amagi from the Medal Shop, it will change in a few hours.

She's a very solid Flagship Barrage BC and peaks in early chapters up to W11 , then falls off from there

Tosa, another IJN Barrage BB, is also quite good and her 'unique' gimick is not needing the flagship position

[weary gust]

Uh, Amagi is a bad SR BC.

[oblique valley]

is it a good idea to use these, or should i convert them?

[weary gust]

Tosa is also not good.

[weary gust]

Convert for protocores, always.

[haughty skiff]

They're new and want IJN ; I know Hood is generally better but they're for-sure not bad for a beginner ?

[weary gust]

They are bad, especially for a beginner when SR bulins are in high demand and short supply.

[haughty skiff]

Can they just push through W10 / W11 with just budget backliners ?

[weary gust]

He'd be far better off using the blue BBs that are IJN and saving resources for better ships.

Fusou/Yamashiro

[sweet delta]

anything can push through 11, but it's better to start with a good effective fleet so that they can farm coins for UR event builds

[haughty skiff]

Unicorn R + Penny ig clears everything pre-W12 albeit rather boring

[weary gust]

The two worst things new players can do is use bad SR ships and UR ships that aren't mlb.

[atomic abyss]

she's probably the next best thing in BB medal after hood and tirp lol
ig there is richy

if they really want IJN and understand that they will be shooting themselves in the foot for a while by all means

[haughty skiff]

I know that but it's not like they really care about all that, they just want IJN

They'd just be speedrunning Haku / Shinano / Nagato anyway

[atomic abyss]

grab tosa then

[haughty skiff]

Amagi seems a bit better incase of BC requirements, no ?

[atomic abyss]

there are few BC reqs

and even then just use a non IJN then

[sweet delta]

when there is a BC req, just use the other fleet

[atomic abyss]

most BC only reqs are early game hard mode maps anyways

or very old event archives

most newer stuff are BB/BC

[haughty skiff]

valid

[atomic abyss]

not like IJN doesnt have other BCs anyways

fairly sure they all appear in heavy event builds still

[gilded dune]

I like
Don't even know these terms y'all are using lol

[haughty skiff]

okay basically do you only want to play with the japanese ships

like 100% japan
or do you just prefer them

[atomic abyss]

perfectly normal

[gilded dune]

I like Japanese and eagle ships haha

[oblique valley]

what gear do i run on shimanto?

[haughty skiff]

since sticking to one faction is a pretty big restraint vs playing with all the factions

if you just want to play normally then you can mix stuff so you can prioritize account progression and developing valuable ships

[atomic abyss]

the standard CL gear
plygyn/155 kai, quad mags, UR AA/twin 113, toolbox rudder

[sweet delta]

since you dont have her gun, fast torps but otherwise normal

[oblique valley]

sweet

[oblique valley]

ohhh triple torpedo to proc the skill? or normal quad golden ones

[oblique valley]

is it worth it if i can't be bothered farming for this ships, i kinda want agir atm

[atomic abyss]

no

[oblique valley]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/shop_priority/#protocore

is this site still accurate?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[haughty skiff]

always convert for protocores

it can take months for UR PR gear, it takes like 1 - 2 weeks to grind the PR EXP

and that guide is accurate

[oblique valley]

thing is i need a tank for my account, i can start for ancourage but i'm not sure if she can do the harder contents
i kinda want agir but i legit have no vanguards to grind for her

thanks for the explanation on the pr gear tho

[atomic abyss]

no point getting all ye save a few days getting your waifus if they dont have good gear to use

anchorage is a top tier tank lol

there are cases she's better than agir

[atomic abyss]

by cases that ancho, i do mean
a. any boss that spams torps/plane bombs
b. team survival

there's no shortage of the former

[oblique valley]

will she be fine in w15,ex,siren stuff? i wanna build a tank and just be done with it lmao

[atomic abyss]

yes, absolutely

people need to stop thinking that anchorage is inferior to agir

[haughty skiff]

Anchorage > Agir then

Both are great but Anchorage is generally easier to toss in anywhere compared to Agir, plus Agir needs her gun

Both do well in W14 / W15, i use them both lmao

[oblique valley]

LMAO i'm just going off information i get myb

[atomic abyss]

they are side grades
and are better than the other in certain use cases

if anything, you should compare her with napoli

[oblique valley]

https://tier-lane.vercel.app/

[haughty skiff]

I also assume you have Essex Retro as one of your few / only potential URs ?

[oblique valley]

nope

[atomic abyss]

that's not even a tierlist

that's a tierlist maker

[haughty skiff]

Current URs ?

[atomic abyss]

[oblique valley]

oh click import then vanguards myb

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[haughty skiff]

I think the bigger concern for W14 / 15 is just Mushashi seems like extremely locked-in for that content due to her detection / defensive skill

And the only somewhat near-replacement is FDG, at least for mobbing anyway*

[viscid swift]

she isn't

Raffaello excells at healing the vanguard for one

[turbid marsh]

theres... the painter and then theres bismark, also lion works too

[viscid swift]

and the rest of the UR BBs certainly do a more than satisfactory jib

[atomic abyss]

like i said, side grades

[haughty skiff]

oh yeah i forgor about Raffaello ; I'm unsure if they'd have Raff / other UR BBs but ill wait and see

[turbid marsh]

oh you are speaking on behalf of your friend, didn't realize that XD

[viscid swift]

and anyway, they're not exactly anywhere close to W15

[turbid marsh]

oh Ian, i see.

[oblique valley]

yeah i might get started on ancourage and save the combat data packs
is ancourage just one of those really underrated ships

[viscid swift]

so why worry about it

[atomic abyss]

jimmy is reliable, but you're just looking at a bunch of letters

[oblique valley]

yeah i've been reading tf out of this google doc and the thing is agir ranks better on almost all of categories,,,

[haughty skiff]

They're debating between Anch / Agir due to wanting to push W14 / W15 and thats how this sorta started

[atomic abyss]

consider this

anchorage can be max limit break in a month with like 90k coins?

agir needs 2 months and needs like, 350k?

[turbid marsh]

ian posted his dock of vanguards?

[oblique valley]

this is pure coining and zero prints?

[viscid swift]

frankly I'd ideally use neither in W15, you almost need better options

[atomic abyss]

pure coining yes

so if you used your PR4 catch up on ancho

lol, lmao even

[turbid marsh]

both are not... needed. would just suggest post dock and see other options heehee

[haughty skiff]

Like Rap / Eld Retro i assume ?

[atomic abyss]

300/343 done
vs
150/513

[viscid swift]

Z52, Gouden, Elridge, Sandy, Shimanto, etc

[haughty skiff]

Agree tbh

[viscid swift]

not to me mention the host of better gear you'll want from the lan which all in all would take a few months

[sweet delta]

Does Jimmy consider cost?

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

i am 100% sure he doesnt

[turbid marsh]

did you post your dock somewhere?

[oblique valley]

there's a thread that someone opened for me earlier do you guys wanna talk there since there's no cooldown

[atomic abyss]

mogador being S is very misleading

lol

[oblique valley]

#1408482098590777649 message

[sweet delta]

I'm wondering why Napoli is A and B and why kawakaze is even on the list

[atomic abyss]

wait wtf

why is napoli A and ancho B

???

why is sirius in B

WHY ARE THE OTHER DDGS IN B???

[turbid marsh]

i can kinda argue why sirius is at b XD but why is taiyuan fushun A?

[atomic abyss]

bloody mental

[strong tartan]

apparently due to piercing and the shield ignore stuff but i dont remember

[sweet delta]

I mean we don't know the tiering method, so no need to discuss too much

[atomic abyss]

@oblique valley i would just, not use jimmy's list in future...

[strong tartan]

he tested napoli dps against bayard and they were close in practice

[oblique valley]

gotcha LMAO

[turbid marsh]

oh i saw it. dw lol. someone is already helping

[haughty skiff]

yeah idk what jimmy is cooking there

[atomic abyss]

napoli close to bayard???
the same bayard that's like top 5 CL DPS?

does napoli top kron DPS to begin with

[turbid marsh]

bayard is like top 3 no? like something around plymouth already for pure dps

[plush path]

If you watch the video he explains how he tiers then

[oblique valley]

ngl there's so much information/misinformation so idk which sources to base my decisions off lol
mainly i've been going off the google spreadsheet

[strong tartan]

doesnt bayard already top plymouth on paper

[viscid swift]

considering he did it in W13

[atomic abyss]

if she hits the HP threshold i think so

[turbid marsh]

spreadsheet packed way too much, better to ask here XD

[viscid swift]

without bothering to take out the AA damage I'm not impressed

[atomic abyss]

i mean
if people wont read
i think they're even less likely to watch a video...

[turbid marsh]

i think napoli does, i based my answer on cn and i think cn said higher a bit

[atomic abyss]

jimmy usually isnt this bad

wtf

[strong tartan]

why is gouden only labeled for aa but guam is a

[sweet delta]

Medium META, balanced AA, +13 rainbows
Dev 30 Bayard full hp 191k
Dev 30 Napoli 169k

[strong tartan]

doesnt gouden have more utility than guam ??

[atomic abyss]

how many ppl even have a d30 gouden

[silk helm]

why not

[sweet delta]

They're expected to be sidegrades in campaign

[atomic abyss]

see the chat above
it's rubbish for anything below S

[sweet delta]

Guam better for ST bossing because armor break > HE buff, and no blocking BBs

[haughty skiff]

im watching the video for some context; the tierlist isnt linear, it's based on niche as well.

AA is for strictly Anti-Air demons
S* is for 'you are overpowered at ONE thing'

he does also mention how even the B tier itself is extremely stacked but 'new content just keeps on coming'

it looks really shit though without that context, and even then its still kinda is

[atomic abyss]

Napoli B, lower than Agir is just

dumb as fuck

[sweet delta]

I wouldn't call kawakaze stacked

[atomic abyss]

wait no imblind

napoli appears in A and B?

[turbid marsh]

cn has napoli has like 5% more dps than krunk XD

[strong tartan]

no his new ranking was a

[atomic abyss]

breh

also chesh in 2025...

[strong tartan]

old ranking was b then he moved her up to a for some reason

[oblique valley]

LMAO

[atomic abyss]

chap over bayard is dumb too

[turbid marsh]

theres loads content needed for bayard and chap?

[silk helm]

ah okay thanks

[atomic abyss]

the "niche" for chap would be anti DD iirc?

but even then just use fucking ply
or even aurora?

[oblique valley]

wtf i feel bad now jimmy getting cooked by like 5 people

[strong tartan]

usually hes fine we just dont know what hes doing here

[turbid marsh]

or even traf sometimes i believe

if someone don't want to use aurora XD

[atomic abyss]

i feel like

[silk helm]

every tier list has haters

[strong tartan]

i wouldnt take direct advice from him but hes certainly better than other creators that make similar content

[atomic abyss]

thats the thing

he knows his shit

maybe he's just bad at making tierlists

[fallen verge]

i awakened one ship past 100 and now like half my commissions need a ship over level 100

[silk helm]

or rage bait gets views

[atomic abyss]

or

[fallen verge]

is there anything i can do about that

[strong tartan]

why would he do that

[atomic abyss]

someone is just bad at uploading his tiers to the website

[viscid swift]

nope

[fallen verge]

that sucks

[haughty skiff]

yeah he spends a minute talking about it ; S* is Anti-DD and Helena and isnt implying that they're 'better' then anything below them

[atomic abyss]

i dont deny she does

[haughty skiff]

just that they're better than ships below them in their niches

[atomic abyss]

but it does make this tierlist extremely misleading

which i dont think was his intention

[haughty skiff]

exactly ; you cant use this tierlist without watching the video

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't even if I did which I have

[haughty skiff]

yeah i dont comprehend how napoli can be so low ; idk enough about gourden yet to comment on her

she does seem like a guam side-grade (?)

[ocean trout]

do we have a similar wpn to this? we only got 1 from the event

[viscid swift]

she is

[strong tartan]

406 mk7

[turbid marsh]

yeah, gouden another busted ship for w15

[viscid swift]

more damage, wave clearing ability with her airstrike, good AA, not the tankiest though and cucks BBs with her airstrike

Need another month ateast at the current rate

[slow fox]

I don't consider cost either

[ocean trout]

ty

[silk helm]

wait do u have a tier list??

[viscid swift]

gotta specify which one now

406/50 Mk7, not the prototype 406/45 Mk7

[silk helm]

are you cubing or nah

[strong tartan]

oh right forgot about that one

[slow fox]

Yeah. It's only single category, and super granular though. ~170 tiers.

[viscid swift]

yes

[strong tartan]

i mean the 406/50 btw

[silk helm]

u close to the UR gear?

[ocean trout]

i assumed u meant this one

[viscid swift]

what no

why would I if I were cubing

[strong tartan]

yeah that

[silk helm]

idk maybe u were lucky

[viscid swift]

considering cube researches can't drop any gear prints at all

[slow fox]

-# Actually I have the AA one, too.

[viscid swift]

beth is the lucky one, bastard already has a Mecklenburg gun

[turbid marsh]

oh dang.... i dont even see a lot of qs

[ocean trout]

also need a replacement for plygun for plymouth. any ideas? maybe tripple 152 mk xxv?

[viscid swift]

Chapayev, 155 kai, Seattle, and Felix guns

[atomic abyss]

you shd keep that on plymouth
and give whatever else the guns cheeky mentioned

because plymouth benefits from that the most out of any ship

[sweet delta]

Just take it from seydlitz

[viscid swift]

unless you can +13 2 spearfishes and have a dev 30 nahkimov you're not competeing in the top meta anyway

[slow fox]

-# I read that as 13 +2 spearfishes

[ocean trout]

dw about that

[viscid swift]

yeah Spearfish is better for the speed and you need +13 for the crash damage

[ocean trout]

yeah out of coins, will have it by tmrw after farming

[stark quiver]

whats cooking

[stark quiver]

is 35 gun bps and 40 meck bps good

[glossy granite]

I think its one of those where he wants you to watch the video fully to know why this and that about the placements, there are some ytbers where if you skip to the end for the tier list they will show last minute a really shitty tier list just cuz you didnt watch fully lol

[atomic abyss]

if people wont read
i think they're even less likely to watch a video...

[glossy granite]

Or just not great at making good tier lists which happens

[stark quiver]

average youtuber

[glossy granite]

I play another gacha game where the biggest tuber knows his stuff but on his tier lists it feels as if hes too scared to call units straight up trash

Like a unit who is placed A+ but actually deserves a B spot

But is placed A+ cuz of how many units there are

[viscid swift]

ehhhh

[stark quiver]

ikr

idk what went wrong
should i start boat focussing

[brisk dragon]

what's the fastest way to increase intimacy a main fleet ship?

[viscid swift]

besides the usual?

[stark quiver]

sortie with her and make her get mvp

[brisk dragon]

what's the usual ?

is there like a stage or smth ?

[viscid swift]

put her in the first slot, grind with her, make sure she gets MvP

[stark quiver]

isnt there a 2-1 strat
or 1-1 ambush farm

[brisk dragon]

think 1:1 works better for vanguard?

[glossy granite]

Fuck man do i have enough time for Chapter 4 opsi? i havent been progressing for 2 days and im at 3-SP 😭

before shop resets

[stark quiver]

maybe

[glossy granite]

These SP stuff are a pain man

Just to finish a operation feels as if it takes 3 hours 😭

[stark quiver]

i agree
it took me a few years
but thats probably because i slacked opsi for 3y

[glossy granite]

I should have been progressing like 4 months ago but only recently i really started to push OpSi

from chapter 1-1 to now pushing chapter 4

[obtuse island]

few years???

[stark quiver]

read last line

[glossy granite]

I have slacked opsi for 5 and a half years technically

[brisk dragon]

opsi been around for 5 years ??

[viscid swift]

almost yes

it's almost as old as I am

[red hawk]

I know it's not huge compared to what some people have done, but I'm one level away from having my sixth ship at max level and am comfortably pushing into world 12 easily thanks to the help i've gotten from everyone here

[left cedar]

iirc, december of 2k20

[agile patrol]

@undone plover OOOOOHHHH
even if my fleet gets annihilated, the hp i took off of the stronghold boss still counts. i thought i had to timeout and survive for it to count.
i can just throw myself into the thing repeatedly to guarantee a win!!!

[undone plover]

yes we said that

[agile patrol]

i thought i was doing it right

[red hawk]

I haven't done a stronghold yet, are there ships there to be able to reset resolve?

[ocean shuttle]

UR AA gun rly better than bofors on CL AA focused ships?
The lower rld doesn't seem worth it to decrease AA carry DPS with a lower DMG gun. Already got UR AA on DDs and STAAG on main fleet

[zenith heron]

[brisk dragon]

at what morale level do ships stop getting intimacy points ?

[worldly pewter]

the only places where u can't leave them are the abyssals and harbiters

[red hawk]

ok so I can just throw myself at a stronghold as much as I want. I'll have to hit a couple of those when I have some ap

[worldly pewter]

and most importantly enough adapt levels

[red hawk]

im overcapped on adaptation

I didn't realize there were basically caps to what you get out of it

[worldly pewter]

then yeah just go in there press the beacon and auto until u die

once u reach the boss switch to the bossing fleet

[red hawk]

are the costs for awakening SR's higher than elites (basically do diff levels of ships have different awakening costs at diff levels and does retrofit affect that?)

[forest palm]

also retrofit doesn't affect cost

[red hawk]

I figured but I haven't been paying attention, I assumed lower class ships had lower costs same as MLB, thanks for the chart. I'm getting hit all at once with a couple SR's, thankfully it stores a bit of XP so it's not like it's all wasted

hood hit 110, sandy and shigure both hit 115 right after my other BB did

[forest palm]

it's hard to hit overflow cap

rather it takes a long time

[red hawk]

only time I got close to being more than a level over was the first time I realized awakening was a thing, and I had a couple ships pop right to like 103-4

its 5 levels past your cap isn't it?

[forest palm]

no

overflow cap is roughly somewhere above 3 mil

[red hawk]

id have to take a look at my xp/level to see how that stacks up

in the middle of a sortie

oh wow so I'm assuming xp/lvl is the same for all ships? portland to 125 from 124 is 304k, so you could stack up quite a few levels before you hit that

[eager mulch]

[red hawk]

that's basically 10x the top xp needed for a level

[forest palm]

if you're curious give this a read, it's too much to boil down to a few words or screen grab
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience#Ship_XP

[red hawk]

oh so UR and DR ships do have a slight more xp tnl than other ships, but otherwise it's standard. And capped experience saving of course only applies to MLB awakened 100+ you lose xp capped at MLB levels.

[forest palm]

that's correct

also why I'm lazy an just call DRs, URs because outside of where they came they're effectively the same

[glossy granite]

How much SP shit do i have to do before reaching Chapter 4-1 on OpSi 😭 Makes me wanna blow my head off with Lion gun

[red hawk]

do the number of clears needed for each stage go up at all past 11 or is it capped at 4

[glossy granite]

each stage takes like 3 hours feels like

[red hawk]

yeah lol

[glossy granite]

Some have these minigames aswell and no auto search at all

[red hawk]

once you do 4 you get autosearch

[forest palm]

you two are talking about two different things

[glossy granite]

Blow my nuts off with triple 406mm gun

[red hawk]

no Op Si, you get the auto search unlocked after chapter four,

I'm talking about my campaign they're talking about op si.

[glossy granite]

I already have auto search but some stages dont have it at all, im on Chapter 3 SP like last ones before finally getting to that stupid shop

And im getting cooked aswell

[forest palm]

also do you mean to 100% a map?

[red hawk]

yeah that's what I'm saying though is after a certain point you will have autosearch for all your missions after chapter 4

and then after that I think you have to buy the logger monthly?

[glossy granite]

Im trying to reach chapter 4 asap, should have done this shit 4 months ago but here i am ig

Actually over 5 years ago but i was braindead

[forest palm]

if you have the oil ot burn for that, but it's not normally recommended

[red hawk]

and yeah taz I was talking about the number of clears on campaign, in world 11 one clear is 25%, does that number go up later on? more clears to 100?

[glossy granite]

Yo how much operation coins do you need to buy out the monthly shop thingy, as i am kinda close to unlocking it

[undone plover]

They do
15-4 needs 7 clears iirc

[red hawk]

ok that's what I was wondering, and I hate it

[forest palm]

I have since forgotten

but the more important thing is Threat reduction

[red hawk]

I mean in my case the important thing is unlocking the next stage so I can get to 12

[undone plover]

Opsi exchange shop?
Around 5-7k for the good stuff
Double to clear the shop

[glossy granite]

I have 110K atm so i should be good yes?

[red hawk]

I think I should be able to finish 11 with the oil I have but it'll be close

[glossy granite]

I need to buy everything regardless, guys if i head into World 14 due to my gears i will be so cooked might aswell use Portland retrofit

And pennsylvania

No fucking idea what to buy first anyways 😭 wyverns?

[red hawk]

wait what world are you in?

[forest palm]

not everything in the Voucher Shop is useful...

well in terms of campaign progression

[glossy granite]

Im on World 13

[red hawk]

how are you getting cooked in opsi story mode when I breezed through it and you're further than me?

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide

[glossy granite]

I have looked at it many times, no idea which one to prioritize first unless i want to prioritize 5 at once

[viscid swift]

we have a category, "new SKK" for a reason

[glossy granite]

What stage are you

[red hawk]

just clearing 11-3

[glossy granite]

On Opsi

[red hawk]

oh 5-1

I stopped story after I unlocked stuff and was just clearing nodes

[glossy granite]

No idea what fleets you use

I could just be under lvled

[stark quiver]

11-3 lore

[red hawk]

pretty much mostly leaned on this

I did have penny for story mode

[viscid swift]

anyway, try educating yourself with Sam's gear guide what each piece does

we give you info on gain and how good they are in different contexts and how vets would go as far as priority if we were to start over

[glossy granite]

I got cooked on 11-3 believe it or not 💀 , 11-2 aswell i had to revamp my whole fleet after that experience

[red hawk]

i found a good mob fleet handles most stuff in opsi up till you start dealing with abyssal bosses and stuff

I can farm c6 hidden nodes on auto, but I can't do bosses without some swapping around

[viscid swift]

do I need a disclaimer saying not to randomly uncap ships to 125 sigh

[glossy granite]

I think im getting a little cooked when i face lvl 114 bosses, some of my ships are bit under lvled

[red hawk]

yeah apparently? I didn't know that was a bad thing

I see levels I max levels

[glossy granite]

You do not understand how good retrofit portland is for W15, streets will never forget her prime 15-4

[stark quiver]

[glossy granite]

That combined with the 2-1 method, fuck man

[red hawk]

also on a side note I actually found out where your screen name comes from Rascal

[viscid swift]

I was playing when W15 released, heck I got Houston 2 on week 1

[red hawk]

so why do we not want to fully awaken ships to 125?

[stark quiver]

limited resources wasted on ships who doesnt need the level boost

and the content you are doing is easy enough as is with 120

[red hawk]

I just kinda assumed you keep levelling to the cap lol

well I doubt I've bricked my account by awakening 6 or 7 ships

[viscid swift]

you haven't just don't make a habit of it

[red hawk]

yeah I'll focus my resources now that I know, thanks

what ships are worth awakening to 125? URs?

[viscid swift]

ships you'll use in late game so Unicorn, most URs, Aquila etc

[glossy granite]

Is kashino a good option?

[stark quiver]

nah, ships are good at 120
only 125 good ships thatll help you push content like w15 and boisses

[red hawk]

so basically none of my ships besides uni lol

I don't have many ships that are endgame quality

[viscid swift]

we wouldn't expect you too either

[red hawk]

yeah, there hasn't been a UR banner since I started either

this will be my first chance to get something good

[forest palm]

on the upper end in Ops, some mob fleets can handle Aybssal at which point they're just omni fleets that fight everything outside of Arbiter

[viscid swift]

well Essex and Eldridge come to mind

[red hawk]

yeah now that eldridge doesn't want to show up in my merit shop, now that im actually doing the stuff and have the currency for it

I am tracking it, but I'm a ways off on getting it to a useable state, and same with essex retro.

[forest palm]

all in due time

[stark quiver]

some?
i thought mobs doing everything but arby was normal

[red hawk]

my mob fleet doesn't do enough damage to bosses

[forest palm]

no, I'd say that's more of a minority

[stark quiver]

mine does it fine with half gear

[forest palm]

and what are you using?

[stark quiver]

some cn fleet

[forest palm]

and that fleet is easily accessible to 100% of players?

[red hawk]

id like to see what they're using compared to mine

[stark quiver]

depends on what you call easy

it certainly doesnt use collab ships

[red hawk]

I showed mine, show yours and gears so we can see what you mean by half geared

[forest palm]

then that is the minority if you can't unquestionably call it easy

[stark quiver]

it looked something like this

[forest palm]

like Uni + FdG is easy, but that won't handle Abyssal

[red hawk]

half geared then posts a fleet with rainbow/gold gears and all epic augs

if that's half geared im cooked

[forest palm]

like I said, minority

it's not normal for everyone to have Lion or AQL

[stark quiver]

i should cook a new fleet

[red hawk]

they have gears I haven't even seen before lol, what are the oil drums and that depth charge beacon looking thing on the bottom carrier

[stark quiver]

aviation gas and beacon
av gas speeds up aircraft speed and beacon speeds up airstrike load time

[red hawk]

see thats one thing I noticed is a lot harder to get ahold, is some of the aux items seem to be more linked to events and stuff so I'm not sure where to acquire many of them

command tables etc

[viscid swift]

lars' database is your friend

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/equips

[red hawk]

yeah and the priority guide lists drops, but what I'm saying is a lot of the good auxes are tied to events and stuff so some are unobtainable

[obtuse island]

why perseus over uni?

[stoic flicker]

I heard Slamuida is dead/outdated, what do people use now?

[stark quiver]

2v1 preload

percy has 2 preloads and uni has 1

[stark quiver]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[obtuse island]

but i heard uni had better dps, is that true

[viscid swift]

yeah

[silk helm]

anyone vouch for the cn tier list?

[stark quiver]

idk i cant read cn

[silk helm]

[obtuse island]

well, i guess that perseus is used if uni isn't enough

[whole crypt]

in what sense

[stark quiver]

2 strike is better than 1
it outweighs the dps diff

@viscid swift which one better for ops

[viscid swift]

left?

[stark quiver]

ok bet

[red hawk]

Why is hood getting wrecked when I'm intercepting suicide boats? She's 110 in 11-4 is it just levels?

[sweet delta]

enemy BB/BC are destroying her 🔥

[stark quiver]

fire

[stark quiver]

are you running fire extinguisher

[red hawk]

no, I don't know when to do that lol

[stark quiver]

chapter 10 and 11

[red hawk]

im literally about to clear 11 without using them LOL

next couple runs I will swap them out, just one per ship?

[stark quiver]

1 on flag

[red hawk]

yeah I was gonna ask after I said that, does she need a toolbox or anything else to go with it?

[stark quiver]

nope

[red hawk]

I was getting through it but I was wondering why she was getting blasted so hard

thanks for the heads up

thank you both, I'm running it on auto now to 3* 11-3 and I'm taking almost no damage now

crazy that one piece of blue gear completely changes it

luckily I had enough to craft one, I apparently was an idiot and threw mine away

do I have to do these stupid siren facilities every reset?

[tardy skiff]

Wats the best stage to farm ship xp 🤔

[red hawk]

12-1

[static harbor]

Indep Kai or Essex Kai for mobbing in general?

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys question are these worth it?

I've never seen it so vibrantly colored.

[red hawk]

satan in a sunday hat

[meager tiger]

siren abyssal torpedo weakness only applies to torps from vanguard/certain backliners with torp slots like odin, and not backliner planes from carrier launches right?

[meager tiger]

yeah the half hour D researches are the most efficient for farming blueprints, id do it for sure

[red hawk]

even for cubes?

[meager tiger]

yeah

[red hawk]

so it's just H ones to avoid

[meager tiger]

you have 376 cubes anyways, spending 5 isnt a big deal

[red hawk]

I don't but I'm curious for my own future experience

[forest palm]

ULs have the best pay out

[meager tiger]

H is ok if youre targeting blueprints but they dont give any gear. generally speaking, D researches are the best for getting a mix of blueprints and gear prints

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[red hawk]

i hate doing D because I'm always out of gold

oh dang I've been doing C as much as possible because it's free HAHA, learning a lot today

[tardy skiff]

I dont have it unlocked yet 😿

Whats the next best one after that

[ocean oriole]

Hey guy question, am I supposed to MLB common and rare ships too?

Is that part of the game?

I've just been feeding them to other ships and retiring them.

[muted crescent]

You’ll be doing that late game to get stat increases and/or collection milestones for a vast majority of them. For now scrapping them is fine.

[ocean oriole]

Okay, thank u 😊

[warped acorn]

why does most ship i used dont have this status even its been a time but the ship i never used/placed in dorm got this status?

[red hawk]

basically you want to push for the oil capped stages 9-X and beyond, so basically anything past world 9, and the best xp stages I believe are the first stage in the world

so 9-1 would be your first place where you can do oil capped sortie runs

[tardy skiff]

Preciate it

Rn i have up to chapter 11 unlocked so js the highest one i can auto ?

[red hawk]

yeah so like if you can auto 11-1

[tardy skiff]

What about like leveling up lower leveled ships

[undone plover]

xp book + dorm to get them to level ~80-90 then farm like normal

[red hawk]

opsi c1 farm is underrated for some low level grinding

[meager tiger]

bumping

[red hawk]

so I'm digging through the database for gearing and my own bps, realize I'm like 1 away from the gold evasion item. (Hydraulic gold) is there a way I can try and target that for research? is that explained in the guide or is it just about following the letter guide and doing the type that give ship gear?

i guess less wordy- how do I target research gear bps for specific ship gear

[sweet delta]

gear random drop

[barren token]

If you have less than 1k+ cube stockpile, I do not think it would be worth it at all

[ocean oriole]

Yeah, you're right. I'm still saving for the anniversary banner 😅

[zenith heron]

Its worth it, if you are ok with using cubes for some of it... just not all of the time considering you need 400 at least for pity for the next UR release which is around the corner of September, so it won't hurt for now...

[tacit mortar]

anyone able to 1 run the current META ship? just for vain purposes'

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[red hawk]

I swear some dude I invited for support one tapped it as soon as I opened it up yesterday

tier 15

[tacit mortar]

thanks alot 😄

[tacit mortar]

did you see the line up and load out?

[warped acorn]

does essexkai def skill worth leveling

[red hawk]

no I didn't think to check I just applied for help and then it was dead a minute later with one guy's damage

alright I finished 11-4, anything I need to know special gear/setup wise for world 12?

[tacit mortar]

thanks for the replies

[obtuse island]

good AA guns

[red hawk]

I've got a mix of purple and gold quad bomfors/roombas

[zenith heron]

If you are willing to use 4 USS ships, unsure though if it lasts till end of the battle, since it does mention it does not affect endscreen damage...

[warped acorn]

oh damn
also what c1 i farm for xp wont matter right? all map are same?

[red hawk]

any, then repeat

I just use the first port area from the start of opsi

[obtuse island]

in the ecgc equipment guide you can check the good AA guns, you prob won't need more than a few +10s until chap 13

[warped acorn]

part of the siren construct?

[red hawk]

I've got everything +10 for AA, but it's mostly poverty gear.

[rapid shard]

Should I burn all the AP crates on c1 farming if I have the time before reset? This will be first siren reset and ive finished every thing on the map and all loggers

[red hawk]

I'll take a look at what I could possibly upgrade, but im gonna see how my first run into 12 goes here in a second

[stark quiver]

No

[obtuse island]

AA guns in general are more complicated than just taking them from the list since there's normal AA guns and accelerators meant to buff the "main" AA guns but i didn't do the minmaxing and still managed to clear w12 so ig you're fine for now

[rapid shard]

Don't I lose them when it resets?

[red hawk]

I was told not to worry about transition accelerators and stuff right now when I asked what it was lol

[stark quiver]

burn them in either c3 or c5

[obtuse island]

yeah dw about that you're fine for w12 as long as you put the ones that appear on the list

[rapid shard]

I thought c1 was better ap to xp ratio?

[stark quiver]

xp doesnt matter

its end of month, burn your AP at either a c3 or c5 zone for cat node drops
remember to run 2 lvl20+ gold cats

[ionic kraken]

i finally got emden. do you run her in an iron blood fleet for the buff? or avoid it cause of the hp drain?

[rapid shard]

Im still lvling up 2 cats. Highest are 17 and 14 right now. I started playing near beginning of the month

[red hawk]

so what determines whether I use a 150 or a roomba?

and it's my mob fleet that needs the AA for survival right?

[obtuse island]

150?

[red hawk]

105mm twin, I'm bad at basic reading

[obtuse island]

iirc both of your fleets need the AA but i remember putting my best ones on the mob fleet

if anything you should see what works better

[dusty pier]

is retro yuudachi still good?

[robust onyx]

Decent at best

[obtuse island]

ngl just use the 113mm, the 105mm is only slightly faster and that's it

i'm no expert but from what i know it ain't worth it sacrificing a top gun at something for another one that has a little extra

[dusty pier]

generally I don't need to have a dd in a fleet right?

[obtuse island]

cuz if you're struggling with for example reload then you're just going to use a reload accelerator

[quiet kiln]

How should i go about using fleet formations, the single lines, double lines, circular formation

[robust onyx]

Don't use single line

[red hawk]

no, DD's generally tend to have the highest TP for hard mode and event reqs

[soft raft]

Circular line for W13 and maybe W15
Double line for everywhere else

[obtuse island]

good ships aren't determined by hull types

[quiet kiln]

Ive been spamming single lines...

[soft raft]

that is heavily context dependent and also varies on a case by case basis with each individual DD

[dusty pier]

[glossy granite]

FINALLY IM ON CHAPTER 4-1 SIREN 😭

When should the shop appear?

This chapter 3 SP was pain wtf man

[viscid swift]

what shop

[cursive pulsar]

Whos a good ship to replace Pennsylvania from the monthly medal SR selector?

[stark quiver]

enterprise

or essex from 7th anni invitation and then retrofit

[viscid swift]

also drop Shimakaze for Portland

[cursive pulsar]

I dont see her in the selector.

[soft raft]

Aso maybe just yeet Dunk META and put Pennsylvania in her place

[quiet kiln]

Is shimakaze bad?

[cursive pulsar]

Where would I find the invitation?

[soft raft]

Who do you have in your medal shop
It's randomized for each server

[viscid swift]

no but they cannot and should not limit break her

[soft raft]

0LB URs suck ass and Shimakaze herself has been powercrept a fair bit

[soft raft]

Get Hood

[glossy granite]

I would get Hood

[glossy granite]

The exchange shop that resets thing

[viscid swift]

that's still very vague, you mean the voucher exchange shop?

[glossy granite]

Yeyeye

[viscid swift]

after your first OpSi reset

[glossy granite]

So even if i have pushed OpSi story mode i still need to wait till reset to unlock it?

[stark quiver]

yes so get grinding right now

[glossy granite]

So just cuz i am on chapter 4 atm it dosent mean anything until reset

[stark quiver]

clear chapter 4

[red hawk]

im just on 12-1 but I rolled through the all enemies first clear taking very little damage

[rough vale]

How do I use those flares in W14?

[stark quiver]

flares bad

[red hawk]

we'll see if it carries through the rest of the chapter don't seem to have having trouble with AA

[quiet kiln]

Which gun should i equip new jersey?

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[tacit mortar]

Is halford bug fixed now?

[viscid swift]

yes

[tacit mortar]

Nice, thanks!

[warped acorn]

wait so single line is never better than double line...

[soft raft]

there's realistically no situation that -EVA and +FP is really worth it over +EVA and -FP (esp when ships that have high FP tend to have lower EVA, they can live fine with a wee little less FP)

If anything, it's basically a "Win harder" type thing

[wind hazel]

it can be better when you are sure you can trash the map without concern. but for first time pushing it's never single line

[warped acorn]

dang
guess suks to be me for not knowing that

[rapid shard]

Well thats very helpful cause I managed to underlevel clear all the way to 12-4 with never changing formation through picking fights super careful and resetting if there was too many tier3 fleets lmao

[harsh radish]

whats amagi cv good for

[wind hazel]

campaign, med and heavy bosses

[robust acorn]

It's still too much difficult to obtain equipment for the ship girls
I wish someone would help me out

[viscid swift]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[silk helm]

when do yall use type 93 oxy torp?

[robust acorn]

[sweet delta]

I use it for subs, chapter 12, events, and more

[red hawk]

why specifically chapter 12?

[vale spindle]

you want to speedrun clears for mobbing so extra damage is worth more on the initial preload sub barrages and torps

the longer the battle the more you get from oxygen auxes

[red hawk]

see I haven't done, like... anything with my subs up to this point

[silk helm]

ive seen it on vangaurd ships

not only subs

[red hawk]

my best one is the 3-4 one for free and it's less than level 90 at this point. and then I have nautilus MLB at 70

[wind hazel]

building sub team takes time

and it wont be truly useful until around w14 w15

you can camp at lv65 daily raid with i-58

[zinc cave]

oxy torps on trp focused vanguard ships is fine as long as you can handle the drop in survivability

[red hawk]

What's the morale cost per fight?

Ok so I can clear 12-1 at least tonight

[zinc cave]

(exc. Exercise and OP:Siren)
2 morale per fight
10 morale lost if they sink

[red hawk]

not worried about sinking just couldn't remember and wanted to see how much room I had to finish up the stage im on before I was out of morale. I forgot to swap my mob fleet fully to the dorm before I pushed

[zinc cave]

@viscid swift Eugen gun on Light Boss?

[viscid swift]

yes

[zinc cave]

Velocity issue?

[viscid swift]

if you don't have any of the other options

[viscid swift]

what?

[stark quiver]

ammo type

[zinc cave]

As in, is the Eugen gun used over other Light damage options due to velocity speed being better?

[viscid swift]

you mean the ones not listed?

[zinc cave]

Yeah

[viscid swift]

it was the best CA gun from tech boxes

[vague oracle]

Is otto von alvensleben good to build? Missed z52 event

[viscid swift]

not much more thought to it than that

[viscid swift]

also "This is not strictly a crafting guide, and as such, don't treat all pieces listed in this guide as safe to craft. Conversely, several pieces of gear have been deliberately omitted from this guide. While they might be better than some of the options that are listed (though not best in slot), they are only marginal improvements over some of the pieces that are listed while being much more expensive to obtain, like +13 Monarch Gun."

[viscid swift]

she's not replacing Z52, nowhere close

[stark quiver]

i thought monarch gun was bb

[red hawk]

So I'm apparently terrible at attention to details, when I leave a fight mid combat is the oil expended at the start of the combat or only if it concludes

[wind hazel]

ply gun outdps marseille gun in light?

[noble pawn]

Good transitional defensive aux gun? 3 to 4 Suicide boats kinda annoying

[stark quiver]

dont have triple 155?

[noble pawn]

not kai one?

[stark quiver]

dont need it unless youre in w14

[noble pawn]

Oh okay

[zinc cave]

Fair enough

[red hawk]

So I'm trying to disassemble a blue plane and it gave me a warning I'm trying to disassemble important gears

[zinc cave]

The warning shows up for certain gear like that seaplane because ships like Chen Hai and Ting An who can equip them don't have necessarily accessible alternatives.

[red hawk]

Ah, thank you.

[rain vine]

thats not why the warning shows up
its because the equipment in question can only be obtained from obtaining the ship itself and cannot be crafted

[warped acorn]

whats the way of getting ur gear prints from research faster

[rain vine]

cross your fingers and hope that you get lucky with researches

[vague oracle]

Well I only have retrofits dd and her in iron blood

So I have no idea 🥀

[stark quiver]

should i do r2 coords

[viscid swift]

if you're trying to make an Iron Blood fleet don't

least of all an Iron Blood DD fleet

[vague oracle]

So don't use any DD for iron blood?

[red hawk]

Oh so I can junk them then? There's no reason to keep blue planes that don't build to anything right

[zinc cave]

Ah that's the actual reason, I see

[rain vine]

the planes suck anyways, so yes

[red hawk]

Also, is there any reason to keep some of this purple stuff that just doesn't build into anything? It's not on the safe to scrap list but it's rotting in my depot

[late flame]

anything that you not sure has value can be equipped on ships you are not using

[zinc cave]

If you're building Otto as a replacement for Z52, it's pointless

[glad shoal]

should i refrain from pulling for Ultra Rare if i don't have necessary amount of pulls

[late flame]

you should not be pulling anything now aside from daily 1 x light pull until actual UR event

[wind hazel]

like what

[red hawk]

Single 127's and BTD Destroyers for example

[thorn orchid]

where to find guide for story mode ch 14-15?

[rain vine]

https://suchiguma.github.io/home/home-page

[late flame]

or type /guide in #bot-spam

[viscid swift]

step one would be to not build faction fleets, step 2 would be to use good ships

[glad shoal]

so i just save the blocks for now?

[thorn orchid]

ok, thank you

[wind hazel]

can scrap

[viscid swift]

both are on the safe to scrap list though

[wind hazel]

maybe using old scrap list lul

[zinc cave]

Probably the old list
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II
Both are listed under Niche here

[red hawk]

No they're under niche equipment so I missed it

[late flame]

when in doubt just equip on one of those 234467 ships that you are not using

[sweet delta]

Max dock space is 3030 or 4030?

[late flame]

3030 i think

trust me i am 1/3 there

[zinc cave]

1/3

[late flame]

if you lurk in #al-general there are some players/admins with 2k+ dock space
jp has a few skk with max dock space (lazy to dig up the posts on the eww X platform though)

[zinc cave]

Do you actually make use of it?

[late flame]

i'm like 700/1070 now so yes

no thanks to shop UI change i'm amassing unicorns to display skins

[glad shoal]

is light pull the one where the highest you can get is a SR

[late flame]

#gameplay-help message

basically this currently, yes

[glad shoal]

it wont hurt if i do some pulls in it as a new player
right?

[stark quiver]

It will

Do 1 pull a day on light

[soft raft]

We are extremely likely to have a new UR in like 2-3 weeks so nah it really will hurt

[glad shoal]

guess ill try to rack up a few pulls then

[glad shoal]

is that a free pull or do i have to spend blocks for it

[soft raft]

The daily build mission gives you one cube so you essentially get back the cube you spend if you do light pool

[ionic kraken]

you spend 1 cube but it will give you a cube from the daily mission to build one ship

[glad shoal]

oh

so for starters can i get any ships for free or ships that i can get by spending some specific currency in the shop?
i am stuck in chapter 2

[whole crypt]

did you follow newbie guide

[soft raft]

Give this a read if you haven't already
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[glad shoal]

🧐 ok

[whole crypt]

there's a bunch of free/shop ships we recommend for starter, some you'll use right up to the end like Unicorn

Helena will usually be a boss fleet staple till mid-late game at least

[glad shoal]

Thanks

[opaque galleon]

Is Pennsylvania still recommended for newbies? I thought Nelson has fully displaced her at this point

[sweet delta]

No time to retrofit

[glad shoal]

why does it say
"Failed to begin stage: Shipgirl is Sunk"

[opaque galleon]

How are you stuck in chapter 2?

[glad shoal]

one reason is above your message
second one is that I dont have two fleets set up

[stark quiver]

2 fleets is not good as a beginner

[verbal thistle]

Is Chapayev's skills worth leveling up or am I wasting books?

[glad shoal]

so does that mean I can still do it without a second fleet

[opaque galleon]

Yes

You can skip second fleet until like w7 or something

[glad shoal]

ok

[opaque galleon]

I’m guessing this is because your Vanguard or backline sank so you can’t initiate the battle

[glad shoal]

so how do i fix it

[opaque galleon]

She is kinda good as a niche anti-DD boss debuffer and is generally fairly good overall

[opaque galleon]

Retreat and retry

[glad shoal]

it still says ship sunk

[opaque galleon]

No like end the sortie

[glad shoal]

i did

still says ship sunk
😭

[wind hazel]

have you tried restarting game

[glad shoal]

i did

[wind hazel]

show screenshot

[opaque galleon]

This button

I think you might be thinking of the wrong retreat button

This will end the entire sortie

[late flame]

press the big red RETREAT button

[glad shoal]

done

now?

[wind hazel]

change your ships while you're at it lol

[opaque galleon]

Wait that’s weird

[glad shoal]

it worked

but now i'll have to figure which ship was causing the trouble

[late flame]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide/fleetbuilding

[wind hazel]

i mean blaster linked you the newbie tips earlier

you just had to follow it, if you had read it

[late flame]

TLDR;
slot 1 is where you want your tank to be
slot 5 is flag ship

[opaque galleon]

Seems like the issue was from a shipgirl in the fleet being in a commission at the same time somehow

You can check to see if any of the ships in your fleet were commissioning

[wind hazel]

it's just a bug. ships that are in sortie can't be sent for commissions, vice versa

[late flame]

-# smol indie developer plz understand

[glad shoal]

one of them was in a commission
but i still could choose them for formation

[opaque galleon]

Yeah that was the problem

[glad shoal]

but previously i couldnt do that
how did that one slipped out

[opaque galleon]

Not sure, probably just a bug, won’t happen when you start getting more ships I think

[oblique mortar]

what's the difference between AP and HE bullets

[wind hazel]

their modifier, HE bullets can burn

AP pierce through shield? idk read wiki

[late flame]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/

[clever valley]

Is there a list of what ships to go for on pr 1-5? As it going to be a while before i have the tech pts to even look at the higher tiers

[rain vine]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/#shipyard_priority_by_season

[clever valley]

Tyvm

[dusty pier]

what's the skill upg prio for eldridge?

[whole crypt]

you don't really bother if they're not all 10

[clever valley]

So in the research guide it list the an order of ships for each pr tier bur not why, i.e izumo is rated 1st over the other but no explanation of why she is

[autumn fox]

essex double wyvern vs tenrai wyvern or no difference?

[whole crypt]

depends on usage but I'd probably stick with Tenrai

[manic sable]

hey guys does anyone know out of light, heavy and special pulls i should go for if i want these ships: kashino, albion, glorious, west virginia and indiana? or are some of them event limited

or is there a way too see which ships drop from which?

[whole crypt]

I don't necessarily agree that Izumo has priority simpy for the reason she's probably not the first PR ship you're going to be able to work on

[wind hazel]

the list you're seeing is listed by their usefulness, it doesn't take into account the availability to research

[rain vine]

you only do 1 light pull outside of UR banners
event banners have perma ships in them, so youll end up getting spooked by them by just pulling on event banners

[clever valley]

Ah kk, the only one i have atm us saint loius cause she was the 1st one i could develop im now working on roon

[opaque cape]

Is Reno any good?

[whole crypt]

generally BBs from heavy and carriers from special
Indiana isn't in perm pool yet and don't pull either banner

[whole crypt]

not really

[manic sable]

i see ill keep that in mind thankyou!

[sick kettle]

what are some good main gun for sandy for each armor types (no event locked stuff please)

[onyx flame]

you run DD guns on sandy so follow dis guide i think (should be the dps + barrage line)
https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/#dd_guns

[clear harbor]

Are any of the IJN BBs in the Medal shop particularly better and the others? I’m trying to build IJN fleet tech.

[sick kettle]

is sandy best with damage+barrage guns or all rounder guns?

[gilded carbon]

Amagi is decent?

[whole crypt]

she's fine with either rainbow guns but twin138.6 is event locked

if you can't craft the rainbow twin100 then just use any of the gold from 2nd row

[whole crypt]

if you're after tech just take whatever

[atomic abyss]

Tosa is the best

Then probably Amagi or Nagato

[manic pawn]

Should you stack steam catapults?

[zinc cave]

make AVI stat go beeg

[exotic wren]

where does Z52 fit? BB fleet right? heavy/light/med?

[wind hazel]

she fits everywhere

[left cedar]

CV fleets, BB fleets, Mixed fleets, mobbing ... she does gud everywhere
work as tanker in quite alot situations, off tanker ... dosnt matter timming, she fits

[red hawk]

does eldridge get retro or just an augment? It showed up in my shop but I'm 15 merit short lol

[elfin hollow]

She gets a retrofit

Her retrofit item is rerunning currently, in fact

[wind hazel]

wait like 10hrs and do pvp again to get the 15 merit

[red hawk]

I couldn't remember if it was a retro item or aug

[red hawk]

yuppp just funny it was so close

[robust nymph]

whats a good iron blood plane for august? also does shes require a specific setting to be played?

[wind hazel]

bf109g if applicable, ju87

she has rld buff so you gotta time her sync properly with your fleet

[robust nymph]

whats a easy way to do that?

[wind hazel]

using calculator

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[robust nymph]

oh ill try it out shortly, is it complicated

[tranquil crescent]

is this actually with it.. it seems like a waste

[wind hazel]

it's very worth it if you grind a lot

[robust onyx]

Buy 2nd floor