gameplay-help

[sweet delta]

Save for neither grind

[whole crypt]

auto clear's oil is accurate to what it costs your mob fleet takes to kill mobs until boss spawns and your boss fleet fighting the boss node, plus entry cost

it does not include additional costs incurred by sub fleet or if your boss fleet needs to do an extra fight if the boss node gets blocked

[sweet delta]

You need to pick enemies manually to get the third star.
Auto repeat oil cost is accurate assuming you don't use submarines, nobody sinks, and the path to the boss isn't blocked

[rapid summit]

Prototype for buying the prototype guns or something else?

[whole crypt]

sinking rarely changes the cost anyway

[agile patrol]

how do I convert them into protocores

[sweet delta]

You will be wanting to buy these equipment from protocore
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376280341337346220/1399474931796017213/SePh9flHYt.png?ex=68a2d758&is=68a185d8&hm=6fb31174593bb70cf0c72661f127a13c0b682526a7332213b236f51d0222561f&

[forest palm]

go to you depot, find the Combat Data Packs, tap them, then hit Analyze

[agile patrol]

and i assume just buy whatever it is I need?
why does it say PR3 PR4 PR2 PR5 etc
am i missing something

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys, how do I get the Star Blaster?

[onyx flame]

sandy unique aug? just click on the + circle to the right of her equipment or bottom if gear page

then you should be able to craft it assuming you got the coins and mats

[ocean oriole]

Is there any series you shouldn't analyze?

[ivory pawn]

Go read Sushi's image, it's a bit more clear on the recommended items to pick up. PR refers to the research season the items are otherwise available in.

[ivory pawn]

No, analyze them all.

[ocean oriole]

Cool ty 🙏

[rapid summit]

Thank you btw is there one for fdg?

[whole crypt]

is there one what for FdG

[steel dust]

is there a way to auto to 100% a stage? when i auo sortie it always does a minimal amount of enemies then straight to the boss

[ivory pawn]

There is not.

[undone plover]

i know a few ppl who know what they are doing and they in fact cube push
but yeah I am not a fan myself

[whole crypt]

kill all enemy node needs to be done manually, besides for campaign hard mode

[steel dust]

thank you

[whole crypt]

which is why I said most

[ocean oriole]

I did it, now what do you recommend buying from the proto shop limited/monthly? 😅

[ivory pawn]

[fallen jay]

What’s a good fleet to use to grind exp for Sakura Empire ships from shipyard? It’s for Izumo. Just trying to push to get her unlocked as she just needs the CDC1/2 left and then she is built

I assume I need Unicorn in the fleet just for healing unless there’s a Sakura empire ships with good healing I can substitute

[whole crypt]

whatever you have that can use XP that are IJN mainfleet

[simple ice]

where can i check what armor type the meta showdown bosses are ?

[cobalt gate]

so how is the left weaker than the right?

[whole crypt]

IJN has a handful of healers you may or may not need, depending on how much damage you take

[whole crypt]

poorer homing

[cobalt gate]

ahh gotcha

[split moon]

are the gold torpedos good

[whole crypt]

yes

[ivory pawn]

They're usually the same armor type as the actual ship, which you can check on wiki. Alternatively, type /sirenstats in #bot-spam.

[simple ice]

aha i see, ill check that, thx

[fallen jay]

I mean grindingexp in levels like W9 through W12. So I can have the oil limit

[whole crypt]

of course

we don't recommend grinding XP heavily before ch9 anyway, but the answer is still any ships of the appropriate factions and positions

[fallen jay]

So what kind of fleet comp do I need for that then? I need exp for Izumo CDC

[whole crypt]

filter your dock by IJN and main fleet and pick whatever you have that's not maxed

[fallen jay]

Can I post pictures of my IJN dock?

[agile patrol]

is this what im supposed to be buying? for champagne gun

.. but wait
the refresh time is 15 days right now
does it really take like 3 months of buying BP to get these weapons . . .

[steep copper]

This game is definitely a crawl once you hit a certain point

[red hawk]

f2p gachas are a marathon not a sprint

[stuck furnace]

shouild i craft tenrai or save the components

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys real talk, but how many fleets need to be built?

[red hawk]

eventually 4 at least for opsi

[ocean oriole]

For end game stuff.

I was surprised to see you needed four fleets for Operation Siren soooo soon.

[red hawk]

you don't have to have four built fleets right away

you can still run your main fleet to carry you

but it's a good time to start working on your second fleet build up

red enemies give xp in opsi

[ocean oriole]

Cool, ty.

[red hawk]

the first focus is fully kitting out your first fleet, then slowly building the others alongside it

better to have 1 or 2 strong fleets than four absolute shit

i run my 2nd fleet in opsi for levels, but if anythings a bit to hairy I just use my first one to clobber it

[rapid summit]

Is 12-4 best for exp and coin?

[red hawk]

best for coin, x-1 stages for exp iirc

[north elbow]

what do you grind in the war archives

[red hawk]

that's the cool part- until you get established, you don't

[fallen jay]

Anything you don’t have 60 of from

[red hawk]

then stuff for fleet tech

[soft raft]

Divergent Chessboard for IB tech points
otherwise it's basically all collection/completionist

[fallen jay]

Especially useful for the Saredenga ships

I can’t remember the name of the event

[red hawk]

empyreal tragicomedy?

[onyx flame]

how do you guys grind main fleet exp for shipyard without using a slot for unicorn, run strong dps for the vanguard?

[crimson glacier]

safe danger level w12 is just that easy that you dont really need anything

[onyx flame]

ah fair enuf guess i try that next time im grinding a main fleet exp

[fallen jay]

That’s the one!

[red hawk]

there is a little part of me that wants to run the one for prince of wales

but I probably shouldnt

[fallen jay]

Wait what? So I don’t need Unicorn once I get 12 to safe?

[crimson glacier]

i never use unicorn when i level random shit

all she does is steal mvp exp

[fallen jay]

What level do they need to be to survive W12?

[viscid swift]

I've used level 1 ships before in W12

[fallen jay]

What?! How?!

[dark hazel]

is there a way to see a ship's fleet tech at 120 when viewing in the dock? I mean the tech that ships itself provides, not the total tech

[viscid swift]

no

[fallen jay]

Do you level only one ship at a time?

[viscid swift]

making sure the battle ends quickly with cross fleets and the fleet having half decent AA, as well as the ship in question being rigged for defense

[agile patrol]

ive always had this impression that world 12 is like this massive wall where everything will put a bullet through my head if i even as much as sneeze
is world 12 really that easy

[viscid swift]

like so

[agile patrol]

wth??

i need to get my courage up

[viscid swift]

Not even using the best cross fleets

[fallen jay]

I don’t understand. How do you end the so battle quickly? Like I’m trying to build a fleet to grind exp for Izumi from W12 but it needs main fleet Sakura ships. And none of them are even 100.

[viscid swift]

like I said, use cross fleets and gear your vanguards well

[fallen jay]

What’s cross fleets?

[viscid swift]

cross fleet barrages

found mainly on URs

[fallen jay]

Other than New Jersey I don’t know of any ships who have cross barrage

[viscid swift]

pretty much all the gacha URs have them

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[inner delta]

@viscid swift redeem code is now inactive ye?

[viscid swift]

wait which one?

[inner delta]

the one from stream

i dont remember the date

[viscid swift]

let me double check

[inner delta]

i feel like i remember 17th

[viscid swift]

no they go until the 27th

[inner delta]

o ok

i got the 7 right

[viscid swift]

so does the # event on facebook and twitter for 200 gems actually

[halcyon grotto]

Are there any good mob fleet healers for Iron Blood like Perseus or Unicorn? Starting to work on the IB main fleet grind for Mecklenburg and dont want Perseus extending the grind.

[viscid swift]

no but you shouldn't need a healer for grinding events and W12 on safe anyway

[viscid swift]

like so

[stuck crane]

where do i get the 7th anniversary ship ticket from? is it a login reward? or through mail?

[viscid swift]

login reward

[stuck crane]

if i can't do the hard mode stages of the event map yet, should i just farm T6 or work on my fleets in campaign more to try and complete the event hard mode stages?

[soft raft]

Farm event

[stuck crane]

is there a reason my protocore shop is showing different guns than the ones listed on the recommended list?

[ivory pawn]

There's the rainbow guns you're probably looking at, and then there's the seasonal blueprints for gold guns underneath.

[fallen verge]

how limited of a resource are gold bulins?

[stuck crane]

ohhhh gotcha. thank you!

[soft raft]

all the gold guns are in seasonal selectors that you buy first and convert later

[red hawk]

is Tallin ok as a tank if im lacking other options

not main fleet

[stark quiver]

yea sure

[soft raft]

That depends on how new of a player you are
early on, you'll feel stretched thin for them, but later you'll have more than enough

You get roughly 9 gold bullins per month not counting any extra you can get from merit shop and freebies

[zenith wren]

Should I use the wishing well, and if so what's a good shipgirl to aim for?

[red hawk]

do 1 daily pull from light, and maybe target something like jeanne d'arc or san diego

save rest of cubes for next event UR

[fallen jay]

Should I work towards getting Friedrie Der gorbe now? I can start development on her. Or should I just stick with Izumo until she’s ready to be built?

[lunar arrow]

Who is Le Hardi?

[eager mulch]

new dd

[red hawk]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Le_Hardi

[lunar arrow]

She is the drop, right?

[soft raft]

yuh

[lunar arrow]

Oops,she should be in shop

[soft raft]

she's both the drop ship and the shop ship

[red hawk]

don't buy in shop unless you can't get teh drop towards the end

get rewards that matter for progress like plates and stuff

[lunar arrow]

I am at 70k, I thought she already dropped,like usual. That wht I panicked that I missed an event

[fallen jay]

How do you guys already got to 70K?!

[red hawk]

still, generally a good idea to not spend any resources on dropabble ships till nothing else to buy or last day

[fallen jay]

I haven’t even gotten 10K

[lunar arrow]

Over grind, you will get used to it

[fallen jay]

Anyway should I switch to get Friedrich in shipyard or finish Izumo?

[lunar arrow]

Usually I am getting more resources than shop have items to spend on,so I never bother

[red hawk]

I never know how far people are progressed mb

[fallen verge]

is there a good way to get exp books early game? struggling to level up a second fleet

[red hawk]

they don't start coming as a resource outside of handbook rewards until you hit a certain commander level

[lunar arrow]

It's usually just better to lvl up on stages,if you not spending money on booster packs

[fallen verge]

should i go to easier stages to level them up then?

[stark quiver]

how far are you into izumo

[stark quiver]

either that or drop the second fleet if it isnt good

[lunar arrow]

Yes, I did that in the begging

[red hawk]

you should be pushing as far as you can with one fleet at first

[fallen verge]

id just like to not be out of ammo for the boss honestly

[fallen jay]

She just needs CDC1 and 2 finished and she can be built

[red hawk]

it's really fine if you are for most maps

it's not worth stretching resources early

[stark quiver]

ig go to fdg

[fallen jay]

I’m just really struggling to grind exp using Sakura main fleet ships. None of them are over level 80 so they can’t do W12

[red hawk]

you shouldn't be really worrying about a second fleet at all till what, 10?

[fallen jay]

Alright thank you

[fallen jay]

Double checking this is the girl I want to develop right? I’m overthinking it

[fallen verge]

ill stick with just one fleet then, thanks

[stuck crane]

is there a way to set autoclear on a stage to clear an entire map before killing the boss?

[stuck furnace]

Opsi fleet building help

[onyx flame]

for normal stages? no

[soft raft]

no
not like it'd be much more worth it anyways when you dont get any extra resources from doing so besides a smidge extra XP which isnt enough to make up for the time that could've been used on doing another run

[stuck crane]

that makes sense. thanks

[fallen verge]

is there a way to rush player level

at 34 and cant continue until 40

[stark quiver]

grind event

[twilit wren]

Hi! Can I have help for which ships to prioritise going forward? These are the notable ones I have.

[soft raft]

Are you at W9 yet?
If you are, you currently dont really have enough good ships for a 2nd fleet
If not, don't bother with a 2nd fleet until at earliest W9

[hot tiger]

How do I get kaga in this?

[twilit wren]

yes just 3 starred 9-1

[soft raft]

You either get her to drop from D3 or B3, or do D3 60 times to hit the pity

[rain vine]

press the hard mode in bottom left

[twilit wren]

yea i know lol
it's more like i don't wanna keep using units like phoenix when i know she's gonna fall off
got a few new units recently that seem to have good late game potential but again resource management right, so i dont really know what to prioritise, like warspite and yuudachi
im also close to completing st louis and have a good amount of medals

have a good amount of gold bullins stocked up too

[soft raft]

Unicorn retro would be your highest priority right now
Independence, Yuudachi, Chang Chun, and Tai Yuan would be other units worth raising, mainly for their post-retrofit states

[twilit wren]

ok thanks! im one off a t3 blueprint
how about for a BB? nagisa isnt really good from what ive seen

[soft raft]

See if you can get Hood from the medal shop (BB hulltype)
otherwise, either just stick with Nagisa or get Pennsylvania

[twilit wren]

yes i can get her

[brave flame]

do you guys do 1:1 to grind for event points or just full fleet with oil cap?

[stark quiver]

i 1:1

[soft raft]

full fleet on the last stage

[dawn zealot]

I do full fleet as well. Don't have enough free time to cycle 1:1 so I just farm for research at the same time as leveling more ships.

[eternal basalt]

Full fleet - love farming

[manic spear]

Where can I get le hardi from drop and what are the chances? (I can’t access HT4-6 due to requirements)

[fallen verge]

what level do you have to reach to complete the commander handbook?

[soft raft]

T6 or HT6
drop rate we dont know 100% for sure since that stuff isnt datamineable, the only one we know is 0.75% for Akagi and Kaga

[hollow viper]

Someone asked about not being able to enter event hard stages. I have a similar question about what I should do.

[digital gyro]

Quick question, I was progressing the Port Fashion Collection scenes the other day, now I can't seem to find the tab to complete the remaining 3 I have left. Am I missing something? It's not under events or the fashion tab.

[soft raft]

/hardmode this is how you acess them

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[hollow viper]

No I need to rephrase that I mean I can't enter cause I can't reach the stats like levels. What should I do instead

[eternal basalt]

Show the event stages tab (with the minigame)

[manic spear]

Is it worth doing over HT2? ht2 has higher priority according to the datamine so

[eternal basalt]

HT2 does NOT drop Hardi

[soft raft]

What
where does it say that in the datamine?

Shit's not even filled in properly

[digital gyro]

This is where I was doing it, it's gone now.

[manic spear]

Yeah this one

[dark terrace]

Hi guys, do you have any pictures of the faction fleets (UR)?

[soft raft]

oh you mean on Sam's post

[manic spear]

ok maybe not the datamine but the guide thingy or whatever

[soft raft]

in that case, you read it wrong

[eternal basalt]

Did you already do all 7? Might hide if if completed

[digital gyro]

No, I still had Enterprise and a couple others to finish.

[manic spear]

what is it supposed to mean?

[warm canopy]

Hi, i need help with something. I bought a skin by mistake

Help

[hollow viper]

ah this was what I needed

[eternal basalt]

That's tough, no backsies...

[manic spear]

I don’t think you can do anything about that

[soft raft]

"If you can't do HT6, then the order is HT6 > HT4/5 > HT2 > T6" etc etc

IE that is listing the best stages to clear going from hardest to easiest

[manic spear]

yeah, my point was that I can do t6 that does drop the ship, and also ht2 which doesn’t, but ht2 his priority, so which to do

[fallen verge]

im farming t5 right now and getting only 70 bits of event currency per run

is that worth it at all

[soft raft]

prob would be better to do HT2 which has more currency per run

[eternal basalt]

Def try to get to t6

[fallen verge]

t6 is still a bit beyond me

[manic spear]

Did you do the 3x currency on first run every day stages

[soft raft]

(Insert obligatory "Faction fleets suck" statement here)
Sakura, Royal Navy, and IB are the only factions with enough URs to fill a full fleet

Eagle Union is close but they only have 2 vanguards

[fallen verge]

i dont think so?

[manic spear]

then probably do that as well but other than that I guess u just gotta grind

[fallen verge]

where do i find that

[manic spear]

it says 3x currency on it

[hollow viper]

you get 3x the currency on every normal stage once per day. It will be right above the stage if you havent cleared it already.

[dark terrace]

@soft raftok

[soft raft]

Still shows up for me, have you tried force closing and relaunching the game?

[digital gyro]

Multiple times, it disappeared for me yesterday.

[eternal basalt]

To be sure, you ARE level 15+, right? Could be the hotfix.

[digital gyro]

I hit level 15 yesterday.

[red hawk]

why is ranger rated so highly in EX?

[hot tiger]

Which event has the kaga belly dancer?

[eternal basalt]

"levellimit_skinstory": {

• "description": [],

• "description": [

•  50084
  

• ],
  "key_value": 15
  from yesterday's patch, try reaching level 16, see if it appears then

[soft raft]

it was a cruise pass skin

[digital gyro]

Okay, I'll try it, thank you.

[soft raft]

Cheap af with potential for absolute hilarity if RNG is kind to her

and yes you read that first skill right

[hot tiger]

When will the event start again?

[eternal basalt]

6 months from now

[digital gyro]

That fixed it! Thank you!

[hot tiger]

So in January?

[eternal basalt]

Feb, still on the current one, so 7 months from now

[lyric night]

do we actually know which ship type that will appear in the medal shop or is it just random?

[viscid swift]

rng

[hollow viper]

Is there any reason to get 3 stars on stages outside of the gems?

[eternal basalt]

Is... that not a good enough reason?

[hollow viper]

It's a good reason enough I'm just asking

[deft hull]

if you want to farm a stage you can essentially make it easier by running it multiple times, great for leveling ships

[soft raft]

that's unrelated to 3*'ing tho

[fallen jay]

Would anyone online currently be willing to help me build an updated fleet? It’s been awhile and I’ve acquired several ships that I think would be really good but I’m not sure how to best implement them into fleets or what gear some would work best on them. I remember and still have the old teams you guys gave me last time. This is just an update to the fleet since I’ve gotten so many new ships.

[eternal basalt]

Make a thread

[ionic kraken]

Do any dr ships have fate simulation? Or is that a pr only feature?

[fallen jay]

Updated Fleet Help

[soft raft]

Currently all of PRs up to PR7 and all the DRs up to PR4 besides Agir have fate sims

[ionic kraken]

Gotcha so I’ll need to grind some extra Bps for fdg thanks 🙂

[soft raft]

Bro you can coin her

[fallen jay]

Man I gotta lot of stuff to do before nights up. I still have several thousand oil and the weekly free pack

[fallen jay]

Made

[ionic kraken]

I’m super tight on coins at the moment. I’m trying to lb a bunch of ships that I have filling up my dock

[soft raft]

then just come back to it later instead of deliberately screwing yourself over on research by going back to PR2 focus

[ionic kraken]

That’s fair it’s probably better to stick on 6 or 8 for now

Thanks for the advice I hope you all have a great day 🙂

[fallen jay]

How do I share the data of what I have in game to the fleet builder website?

[soft raft]

Just go to the fleet builder and recreate your fleet (and gear) there

[wraith knoll]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[fallen jay]

I thought fleet builder was what I used to input like what all ships and gear I have so that it can tell me what the best setup is.

Cause I have a lot of the newer ships and as well as new ships since I last asked you all for help making a fleet

[wraith knoll]

wwhy is the print on this picture so poo poo

[river junco]

Fleet builder is this site: https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

You select the ships for a fleet + gear manually (reference image attached), then you can generate a URL or fleet data code to share (at bottom of page)

[stark quiver]

open in browser

[soft raft]

Have you tried clicking on "open in browser"
Tho it just downloads the image for whatever reason

[stark quiver]

waiting for the day sam inputs a virus in it

[soft raft]

That's not how it works 💀
and even if it did, do you really think the devs would allow a completely unafilliated 3rd party site to access the game for such a feature

[tough wadi]

just to clarify. In vanguard, which one takes the most damage? Most right one? (position wise)

[river junco]

leftmost

[wraith knoll]

yeah even then the image itself is so massive that the print itself remains pixelated

[soft raft]

Left > Right > Middle in terms of who takes the most damage

[fallen jay]

Good point. I just don’t like bothering you guys for fleets. It’s probably the most commonly asked question here.

[soft raft]

have you tried then zooming in further? cuz it works fine for me on PC

[fallen jay]

Oh so fleet builder doesn’t help me build the fleet it just lets me save a copy of it?

[silk helm]

why is tenrai not in red?

[river junco]

pretty much

[fallen jay]

Would you be able to help me build one? Or rather update my fleet?

[river junco]

I can try, gonna go into the thread you already made

[vale spindle]

because its not that high priority compared to everything else in gear lab

[silk helm]

whats the best way to spend the top secret UR prints then? i have 1 457mm and 2 tenrai currently

[stark quiver]

you save them

[chrome frigate]

this is probably been asked alot but any of these are MUST gets atm?

[stark quiver]

Quad 152, and tenrai are good
maybe get tenrai first

[red hawk]

so im still locked out of my main but the account I first tried this out on, I kinda pulled a bit silly and got Kronshadt or however it's spelled, would there be any reasonable way for me to farm UR bulins for her without setting myself back for better ships, or should I go ahead and invest in her when I can with cores

or do i just let her rot and use the bulins on better ships

[fallen jay]

So I’d like to learn how to tell the difference between the roles of ships. Can anyone explain it?

[red hawk]

I believe a lot of it is based on stats, as well as abilities

[soft raft]

Kron is mid af so just save

[red hawk]

that's fine, it's just kinda neat looking

[stark quiver]

examples?

[red hawk]

I'd like to know how you know a ship is a good tank vs a good dps

I know some of it is very situational dependent on enemies, but how do I know what other ships are good tanks outside of portland and prinz

[soft raft]

It's namely their skills and stats
mainly the skills since those dictate the whole gist of a ship

[red hawk]

like how portland has defensive based skills and stats whereas Z23 (just looking at starter fleet stuff) is more glass cannon

and all her skills are attack based

[soft raft]

I mean a DD is quite squishy compared to a CA so
but ignoring that, yeah she's more damage focused

[stark quiver]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/edit?pli=1&gid=1013080823#gid=1013080823
there is a ehp chart

[red hawk]

yeah it's not really a fair comparison, so lets say portland to helena

but then again helena is a debuffer

[soft raft]

she is also still not the same hulltype as portland

[red hawk]

yeah true.

alright Unzen vs Portland

[stark quiver]

here

[red hawk]

pure dps ship vs Tank same hull

[fallen jay]

Alright these are good but I’m still a bit lost. Can we take it one step at a time?

[soft raft]

iirc Unzen is fairly squishy for a UR CA
which is still better than Portland

while having way more DPS
but yeah just give that link Alpha linked a read

[fallen jay]

I find this difficult to grasp because I’m a visual/kinetic learner

[tame jungle]

look at the eHP chart, the higher the number the tankier the ship

[fallen jay]

Alright. That’s a good thing I can see then. I should be able to make the tank part of a fleet.

[fallen jay]

Is there a list like that for damage dealers and supporters?

[stark quiver]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0
theres a end game tier list

you can ask any specifics here

[red hawk]

@stark quiver so is ning hai from guild a really good tank then? am I understanding the ehp chart correctly?

[stark quiver]

when shes paired with yat sen

[fallen jay]

@stark quiver is it alright if I try to build a fleet and then show you it and see how well I did? In a few hours?

[stark quiver]

sure

[red hawk]

I don't think I can even get her at this point

[stark quiver]

in like most scenarios, the setup isnt used
because little to no content in game requires that much ehp

[stark quiver]

you can ping me here and show the fleet

[fallen jay]

Alright sweet thank you!

[wraith knoll]

It was just taking a minute to get into resolution

[soft raft]

ah lol

[fallen verge]

is there any reason i would ever want to spend cubes for research?

those ones seem only marginally better than others

[soft raft]

when the rest of the researches are absolute shit
and/or when you have upwards of like 800+ cubes in stock

[frank phoenix]

Who should I buy? Possibly good synergy with her

Or the current meta

[soft raft]

None of them have any synergy with her
Also, all the elite METAs are bottom of the barrel bad so they're not even worth buying outside of tech purposes in the first place

[hollow viper]

what are some other ways to get affinity other than sortieing and battles?

[hollow viper]

But how's Dunkerque? Or are people still checking how good she is

[soft raft]

Meh stats and meh fleet tech

[soft raft]

Whoever's in the leftmost secretary slot can gain affection up to 90

[hollow viper]

This is painful hearing knowing she's carrying my main fleet right now. Along with Bois.

[red hawk]

the only thing oathing does is give a skin (sometimes) correct?

[soft raft]

there's a ver small stat boost which is barely relevant enough for most players to care about

[red hawk]

not enough to min max for the general player then

[soft raft]

more like if you want to min max with oath rings, you better bust out the 💳

[red hawk]

sure but I mean, if i just oath who I want as f2p it's not really gonna matter who I pick as long as I like who I pick?

[obtuse island]

believe it or not you pretty much just have to worry about levels and gears to reach chapter 13

[soft raft]

12 not 13

13 is where you actually need to put some thought into your fleet

[soft raft]

yeah just oath waifu

[obtuse island]

reaching 13 as in finishing 12 and staying in 13-1

[red hawk]

yeah prolly just do ones I didn't do on main, until I can get that back

[soft raft]

why 13-1 specifically

[stark quiver]

[red hawk]

isn't 12 the real farming stop, 12-4 for coin 12-1 for xp?

[hollow viper]

Yeah you check who has an oath skin in their skin section

[obtuse island]

because if you finish world 12 then you'd end up in 13-1

[red hawk]

yeah I kinda lucked out on my first one I just went with my starter

[obtuse island]

ye

[soft raft]

But that's just unlocking the stage though...
Still confused why you say it like that when technically you wouldnt even have attempted W13 yet in that scenario

[hollow viper]

Like getting UR's and such?

Is there a good payoff for 13?

[obtuse island]

cuz if you were to attempt and complete 13-1 you'd end up in 13-2, in memories for example, even if you haven't completed 13-1 it will say you're there if you did complete 12-4

[soft raft]

more like properly building your fleet to deal with the unique gimmicks in W13+, which will end up invovling URs to varying degrees if you want a smoother experience

• W13 is plane hell lite
• W14 is janky concealment mechanics, submarines (in 14-3 and 14-4), and bulkier suicide boats
• W15 is a mix of both W13 and W14 with the addition of multiple boss fights in the later half and supercarrier nodes that just shit out planes if they arent dealt with

[obtuse island]

i've seen youtubers complete world 14 with just golds but usually you'd want to start getting URs by the time you reach world 14

[hollow viper]

I thought I was already in trouble when it comes to planes now. It gets worse?

[soft raft]

Yes

much much worse

[obtuse island]

what world you in though?

[soft raft]

W15 even gives you a third fleet that's purely there for more fighter plane support

[hollow viper]

just about started 6

[obtuse island]

if you're struggling with planes there then it's about leveling up your fleet and upgrading gear

grind the highest stage you can

[sinful socket]

what is best HE gun for CA?

[soft raft]

Unzen Gun

[sinful socket]

I probs have enough to craft a gold one from gear lab

[soft raft]

none of the HE gear lab ones are really worth crafting
at best prob Algerie gun

[sinful socket]

and for the farmable ones currently (i don't have unzen)?

The gear will probably be obtainable during rerun anyways no?

[soft raft]

yeah it'll be avaliable again when she reruns

[sinful socket]

and for CA secondary gun, what's the best HE?

[soft raft]

the farmable ones are at best poverty
this is what I mean with Algerie Gun
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_203mm_(Mle_1931)#tabber-Type_3

[soft raft]

Is this DD or CL secondary
Also why specifically HE?

[sinful socket]

it's for Gouden Leeuw

her S1 especially, where enemies take more damage from HE shells

[viscid swift]

100 kai I guess but it's not make or break

[sinful socket]

oh yeah they're DD Main Gun basically

[forest palm]

I mean would you not just use her signature gun

[sinful socket]

is it DD Gun?

[soft raft]

no he means her main gun

[forest palm]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prototype_Triple_283mm/54_Main_Gun_Mount

[sinful socket]

oh yeah sure, but i also wanted to know for DD

[viscid swift]

it's a shitty slot though

[soft raft]

oh wow 55% MGM Eff 💀

[viscid swift]

55% base efficiency and sgm+0

[forest palm]

my as well not bother equiping anything to it

[soft raft]

may as well just put a FP statstick on there

[sinful socket]

i want it to shit as less as possible, though the better equipment may be better off on someone else

[viscid swift]

and no 70% when she runs a CB gun is still not good

[sinful socket]

FP or AA statstick?

some 15 FP 30 AA gun ?

[viscid swift]

the only reason you'd use a 100 kai in that slot is when you have literally no better slot to run it in which is nearly everything else

[viscid swift]

for what?

[forest palm]

also isn't the 283/54 better than the 203/55 specifically in Gouden's case?

[sinful socket]

for the secondary slot

[fallen jay]

is there a website that i can put in what ships i have and it'll help me build a fleet based on specifications I selected?

[viscid swift]

you would never pad AA so fire power

[soft raft]

no

[soft raft]

are there even AA statsticks for DD guns lol

[viscid swift]

Ai is not that capable yet

[sinful socket]

Twin 100mm type 98

[soft raft]

ah right that has AA
tho like Cheeky said earlier, that gun is better off on basically anything else besides that slot

[sinful socket]

it's fine, there's plenty of those guns

I still have a few spares of it

[forest palm]

if you're throwing a DD gun on Gouden for FP it's going to be the Chinese Twin 130, Russian Twin 130, or the Single 138.6

[sinful socket]

do I need loads of AA for W15?

[fallen jay]

Im looking at the eHP chart and i am lost

[soft raft]

All you really need to look at on a surface level are the first two colums
Portland Kai is the benchmark for this list with 100% EHP

Anything higher than that is tankier than her and anything below that is squishier than her, simple as that

well I guess columms E through J are also somewhat relevant if you're doing those content

[forest palm]

well, sure but nothing that a DD gun with 40 AA will help with...

[fallen jay]

wait whats Portland Kai?

[sinful socket]

portland retrofit

[soft raft]

Portland Retrofit
Kai is Japanese for Custom/modified

[fallen jay]

ohhhhhh

[soft raft]

Kai is also much fasterto type than retrofit lol

[stark quiver]

Portland EX

[fallen jay]

I didn't know that thanks for teaching me a new word!

[forest palm]

needs a comma

[sinful socket]

tbf Gouden Leeuw already has amazing AA at base

I'm trying to build a mobbing fleet w/out Sandy Kai but still sustainable AA

[soft raft]

I wonder, what's the full story behind Gouden's Bombing raid skill?
700 AVI at D30 is fucking bonkers when most UR CVs barely top out just past 450

[fallen jay]

@maiden sigil

[sinful socket]

getting her to 30 is gonna take a while

[fallen jay]

this is my first fleet made without anyone elses input beforehand. Is it any good or did I screw it up really badly?

[sinful socket]

especially in my case, i'm bothering d30ing Nakhimov right now

[fallen jay]

If so then what is wrong with it and how can i fix it?

[soft raft]

what is this for?

[fallen jay]

Mobbing/grinding exp for CDC1/2 IronBlood FBG

[soft raft]

Fine enough I suppose
but that trafalgar feels too low lvl for my taste, even if it's W12 safe (especially since she's not even 1LB)

[sinful socket]

the stats don't feel W12 safe, you should gear them/take gear into account

[fallen jay]

true. thats why shes in the middle. I'll start her off in either the event or W9 to train up

[sinful socket]

that Sandy should be in the middle, she's level 38, she'll get os

[soft raft]

tbh at the very mininum I get ships to lvl 100 and MLB before I throw them in W12 just to be safe

mainly so I can focus on other things without having to worry about the fleet dying randomly

[viscid swift]

I give it a fail honestley, it's dead

[fallen jay]

Fair I expected it to be

[sinful socket]

sometimes i slap a healer in main fleet just for more consistency

[viscid swift]

I'm presuming very little to no cross fleet so the fleet has to put in work

and yeah that fleet is not doing work

[fallen jay]

I have NJ, Fusou, and thats it

I guess Traf and Zwei but im not sure if they actually do or not

[viscid swift]

Zwei has a cross fleet barrage

[stark quiver]

you pinged the wrong alpa, but im here

[viscid swift]

Trafalgar has a cross fleet buff but not a cross fleet barrage

[fallen jay]

So what can I do to make a fleet that is meant to grind exp for Ironblood ships?

[little plinth]

how do we get the essex retrofit item?

[stark quiver]

wait 3 days for minigame day 7

[soft raft]

It's timegated behind the minigame
and we're on like day 4 out of 7 for it

[viscid swift]

first off you need more levels

[fallen jay]

100% thats what I'm trying to make a fleet that can do that.

[undone zinc]

Should i retrofit her, laffey or no one?

[viscid swift]

no I mean literally, the average level of the fleet should be somewhere around level 100

[sinful socket]

use xp books

[fallen jay]

I don't have any

Been using them to level up the ships as needed so I don't have a stockpile of them

[viscid swift]

then use different ships that are closer to level 120

[sinful socket]

at this point in the game, if you have dropped Yuudachi, she would be the better retro, or else retro Sandy anyways. You probably have Trafalgar if you're level 105, and she outclasses in terms of DD

[undone zinc]

Understood o7

[sinful socket]

you're at the "Rainbow=good" point of the game

the starter ships retro I feel like kinda fall off

[viscid swift]

what

who said they have the resources to invest in San Diego retrofit

[fallen jay]

I think I do but am held back by lack of coin

also her level in general is too low. I actually just got the exp packs from the weekly thing

also do i need to be using the exp packs until they reach 100? Cause I was told not to use them on ships at level 70

thats why alot of my ships are in that level range

[soft raft]

that sounds like hogwash unless for some reason you werent limit breaking the ships you're using asap cuz if a ship is lvl 70 without any LB, any XP it gains will be sent to the void

[viscid swift]

I think I said that when you were trying to level ships in like W9 or something

which is a very different game to you approach things in W12

[fallen jay]

thats true most of my ships that i have leveled are LB or can be I just wasnt sure if I should use the gold ones on said ship or not

[viscid swift]

anyway, use ships for now that are closer to level 100 and that might actually survive all the mob fights in 12-1

start rotating in ships you actually want to level when they're ready

[fallen jay]

So for now my mob fleet should just remain Zwei, Unicorn, Jade. Vanguard Agir, San Diego, and Regensburg?

[viscid swift]

if you're confident your level 38 san diego will live sure

[fallen jay]

i'll use exp packs on her to raise as high as possible

she is now 55

is anyone esle having serious trouble playing the game? it keeps crashing

[viscid swift]

nope

[fallen jay]

yeah my game keeps timing out. any fixes?

[whole crypt]

could be a connection issue

[fallen jay]

Most likely it is

[obtuse island]

it happens to me on both phone and pc when my wifi connection is weak

[slow barn]

Which is better, lion or bismarck zwei in the flag?

[stark quiver]

depends on the frontline and what guns youre using

[stark quiver]

lion flag

[slow barn]

When bismarck is better?

[stark quiver]

she isnt tho

unless you run some cursed gear on her

[obtuse island]

can you explain me the thought process? in my head any of the two could be flag

[stark quiver]

lion has biggest damage, which can be buffed even more by plymouth

[stark quiver]

whats this fleet for?

[slow barn]

Opsiren BB fleet.

[stark quiver]

i assume for this months hard arbiter?
do you have rafaello gun

[slow barn]

Yea

[obtuse island]

oh alr

[slow barn]

In the future i want to put alsace in vanguard place, i think its better than him

[stark quiver]

youre correct

[hallow vale]

I do t want to spend any gems on a skin, so I’d rather get an oath skin, but Shinano doesn’t have one. Will she probably get an oath skin within the next few months?

Is it even predictable?

[robust onyx]

Nope considering Musashi came out 2 years later and got an oath skin already

[hallow vale]

Nope to predictable?

[robust onyx]

It's been almost 4 years and no Shinano oath skin is all I'm saying

[hallow vale]

Gotcha

[soft raft]

nothing stopping you from oathing her now
if she does get a oath skin, it'll be retroactively applied for everyone who oathed her prior to that

[junior fractal]

Is this the place to ask for teambuilding help using my current ships or is that too involved of a question? New player starting world 7 and thinking I should begin figuring out 2 fleets. Also debating farming for some story drop ships.

[soft raft]

Yes this is the place, but you should not be thinking of a 2nd fleet until at earliest W9

you barely have enough resources to raise 6 ships, I highly doubt you'll be able to raise twice that amount without basically running your supplies dry to the bone

[hallow vale]

Fair, but I only have one ring (the second from the anniversary) and I feel like I should save it, especially because with the free 800 gems her race car skin is only 400 of my campaign gems

[soft raft]

Give this a read too if you havent already https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[hallow vale]

Then again, she’s one of the best ships rn, right? And oathing would boost her?

[junior fractal]

yeah I've been checking this out and also the chapter walkthrough here https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide

which is where I've been getting the ideas for a second team in World 7

it's on the same site as the community tier list so I figured it was worth paying attention to

[soft raft]

Yes she's one of the best UR CVs (Mainly due to a lack of direct competition) but the stat boost from oathing is miniscule enough that tatical oathing is pointless for F2Ps and they should just oath waifu instead

[mint flint]

ectl is pretty outdated but most of it should still be fine

[hallow vale]

Good to know. Thank you very much, I think I’ll just wait. I might oath Hindenburg if she gets an oath skin, she’s one of my favorite designs. (Not that I have her yet lol)

[junior fractal]

is there a different tier list I should be looking at to see what ships are worth aspiring to have and what gear is good for them?

[soft raft]

not on the EN side, ECTL is one of the best ones (even if it's not fully up to date in terms of ships)

CN has one too, but the critera they operate on is different

[mint flint]

for early game not so much

[soft raft]

there's also a endgame tierlist but that's like W14+ campaign and higher difficulty content as per the name

[viscid swift]

just gonna point out ECTL still recs the 57mm and not the 76mm

[junior fractal]

got it, thanks to you both

follow up: is there a "best" stage that I should run to grind from commander level 45 to 50 to access stage 7-1?

highest lvl event stage? 6-4? 6-3?

[soft raft]

the highest stage you can comftorably clear
ideally with a full fleet

[viscid swift]

fuck ECTL chapter walk through honestley

[mint flint]

until w9 none of the stages are really great for farming so just do the highest you can

[viscid swift]

ancient thing snub has refused to update to the point where ECTL themselves do not reccomend using it

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[viscid swift]

end game rankings isn't strictly applicable to an early game player but it still gives you an idea of what's good and what's not

[junior fractal]

thank you for this 🙂

[strange path]

Can someone help me decide what pr ship to get next? I have Roon, Anchorage, Agir, Fdg, and Ply. I was thinking Haku or Nakhimov but i do not have Shinano at mlb or Amagi cv for triple IJN. And i do not have Soyuz for Nakhimov. Any ideas?

[soft raft]

the rest of PR4
You dont really do Triple IJN CV unless the boss is slow enough that a slow utility in the vanuard like Eldridge retro can work fine, You'd use a freeze support like Ark Royal, Implacable, or AvP instead for the 3rd slot

Amagi CV basically powercrept Haku in the traditional IJN anti-heavy comps since she has 1 more TB than Haku

[stuck furnace]

is it better to run pr4 rocket fighters or tigercats against the heavy boss

[clever valley]

speaking of PR ships to unlock st louis all i need is the 2mill exp should i unlock the other ships in PR 1 such as roon and neptune or just keep on working with st louis?

[undone zinc]

Does exist a main skill focused on cvs?

[soft raft]

heavily content and fleet composition dependent
cuz for example, rocket fighters suck ass in plane heavy content since they dont have interception capability

[sweet delta]

They both have 5 TBs

[sweet delta]

Bishamaru is gold, and you will need a purple like Jironaru, Eagle, or Ark for the other. Talents more important than skills

[sweet delta]

Tigercat https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/#cv-airplanes

[soft raft]

wait tf-
but wasnt that one of the main reasons people were saying for why Amagi CV powercrept Haku

[mint fable]

Which one is better for Trafalgar?

[soft raft]

oh wait nvm it's the slot efficency
god my brain has been fried recently

[mint fable]

Thank you

[warm trail]

If i unlock all dorm slots, can i game infinitely?

[fluid brook]

if ignoring Oil, no at some point your gonna get moral down, but it will take a good amount of time

[wind hazel]

there's still downtime for morale recovery

[soft raft]

it would let you put 2 fleets worth of ships in if you unlocked the 2nd floor as well

but 3 slots + 2nd floor of dorm is often enough since out of your two fleets that you use in campaign, only the mob fleet would have the need for dorm morale regen, esp if you're using 2x plans

[latent jacinth]

What do I have to do to increase those 2 stats

[mint flint]

put a second fleet in

[cobalt gate]

so for low oil t6, its worse than just full oil ht6 for coin right?

[soft raft]

use the 2nd fleet as stat padding

[latent jacinth]

Oh alr

[wind hazel]

it's better point per oil

[cobalt gate]

true, but currently wondering how much worse is it for coin

[hollow viper]

how good are Kirov and Kubyshev and would they be better than Suzutsuki and Naka which make up my Vanguard fleet

[wind hazel]

so much worse

you basically only do T6 if you don't care anything else and only want the point

if you need coin, exp etc, just do HT6

[sweet delta]

Do you have a source for that

[soft raft]

Kirov is eh
Kuby is pretty good

Definetly better than Naka cuz she's a goofy ass R ship

[wind hazel]

no

[cobalt gate]

i see, probably not worth to save the oil for 15-1 then

[fiery swan]

does anyone have any idea how good essex kai will be

[stark quiver]

good

[fiery swan]

iirc she has pmuch the highest avi stat in the game

[soft raft]

On paper she seems really fucking good
How that actually will be like in practice, no one knows cuz everyone is timegated from physically retrofitting her

[viscid swift]

not run the full numbers but just some food for thought

assuming you're aiming just for 55k event points and you do all the daily clears of normal mode

you need to get 19200 events roughly from maps

[stark quiver]

Thats pretty hard

[viscid swift]

5 Oil T6 will cost you 9600 oil
full fleet Ht6 will run you 28569 oil

[clever valley]

wait what do we need nearly 20k event pts for? i spend 8k getting le hardi

[soft raft]

buying other stuff in the shop, obviously

[clever valley]

oh full shop clear, phew had me worried

[viscid swift]

me personally

PR prints, cog chips, arrays, oil, augment cores, and the exlcusive gear skins

plus the gold plates in the milestone rewards

[soft raft]

nah that's not full shop clear
full shop clear is upwards of like 150k

[cobalt gate]

cog, pr, core, oil, skin box for me

[clever valley]

after getting the copy of le hardi im not really sure what should be my priority as a newbie

[cobalt gate]

oil

[hollow viper]

I know San Diego and Bismark in the model shop are good choices to get. Are there any other ships from the BB and CL shop that I should have interest in?

[wind hazel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRGD73JrnhoNzVJ4o7aiqtNfTDWEIpElvBjD_HCrZCRTjt4qIWQq3pZfZymaPDJlWK8H4OWzvGm-ez1/pubhtml#gid=527886669

[stark quiver]

hood and sirius

[cobalt gate]

wail core not high priority?

its cheap and most stingy

[stark quiver]

augments arent high prio in the grand scheme of things

[wind hazel]

average player will have enough

it's only higher priority for augment collector

[hollow viper]

I have hood but what does Sirius do?

[cobalt gate]

oh the boxes are that cheap? haven't bought them for so long

[stark quiver]

buff carriers

[cobalt gate]

sirius is a CV backrow damage buffer

[stark quiver]

im curious, how much module cores do you have

[soft raft]

Bismarck is garbage 💀

[wind hazel]

which one is that

[hollow viper]

wait really?

[stark quiver]

not the top 3

[hollow viper]

Did i look at the right one

[cobalt gate]

yep most people talk about bismark 2

[wind hazel]

cant check in depot wtf is this game

[stark quiver]

average azur lane

[wind hazel]

oh wait i can

[soft raft]

Yeah
she's only good as a source of tech points & fleet tech
you might have been thinking of Bismarck Zwei which is a UR BB

[wind hazel]

anyway

[stark quiver]

only 9k blue thingies

[wind hazel]

[hollow viper]

Oh well I guess it's San diego and Sirius then

[stark quiver]

also 700 cores wadafak

[cobalt gate]

how do you have so much core

[soft raft]

you cant buy from the same hulltype twice per month
unless you actually have double CL avaliable in your shop

[wind hazel]

this is why i said average player don't need that many

[stark quiver]

you arent average

[wind hazel]

also not augment collector

[silk helm]

👴🏻

[stark quiver]

This is my new player count

[wind hazel]

500

[cobalt gate]

i only have 240

what am i doing wrong

[wind hazel]

nothing

[stark quiver]

crafting too many augments

[viscid swift]

More than me lamo

[hollow viper]

yeah I know it's just my plans for the shop.

[cobalt gate]

not really, i have like 60 aguments not crafted

[soft raft]

if you were here when they first added augments in, they frontloaded you with quite a good amount of resources

[stark quiver]

im too lazy to augment swap, so i end up crafting a new one everytime, thasts prob why i have 60 of those gold crafting mats

[left cedar]

i got plenty Augments, and still have considerable amount of them ... in total i think should be around 120 total of thoose (never count them)

[cobalt gate]

hmm i do have 73 crafted gold ones. which i guess is 1k core

[stark quiver]

I have 5

[left cedar]

gold augments i got only fews, i got plenty of purple

gold augments pretty much all KMS, SN and RN ... maybe few IJN

[stark quiver]

old player crafting many augments

[cobalt gate]

purple aguments drop from the weekly right?

[viscid swift]

Not wrong, only these aren't crafter

[cobalt gate]

shoot i crafted a lot of bad ones then

did i make these purple ones?

[clever valley]

at what stage does san diego's aa become necessary? and should i prioritize picking up her item from the shop

[cobalt gate]

so if you have chesire, de seven, laffey 2 i would say not really. if not probably 13 and especially 15

[barren spear]

Is there a way to unlock the SP level for the event? Or has it not been unlocked yet?

[clever valley]

beat hard t6

[cobalt gate]

do ht6, there is a toggle on t6 to do hard

[barren spear]

I keep forgetting they did that

[late flame]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[clever valley]

whats the recc fleet lvl for hard t6?

[stark quiver]

105ish

[cobalt gate]

these are the ones i have left, which ones are worth it?

[clever valley]

ah yah i dont have that

[stark quiver]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules

[ripe pumice]

Why everyone ping

[cobalt gate]

cause money? although i never really am in al geenral

ugh i hate torpedoes so much

i wish it auto pauesd the game if someone died

[soft raft]

#server-news message

[slow fox]

This would be monumental for eHP research

[cobalt gate]

i mean you have to identify the cause, could be bad rng, like my team was fine for 12 runs and suddenly died to torpedo while on 70% hp

wasn't even facing cv enemy fleet

[viscid swift]

This is AL, basically no 2 runs will be the same

[tall kite]

still cant beat world 13

[cobalt gate]

its such a low chance since i'm using raffaello so it should trigger a barrier that should bock a torpedo hit but it just somehow killed so quick

[tall kite]

i need more cubes to get bois but i literally ccant do anything

[slow fox]

That's why you do it two hundred times!

[cobalt gate]

just farm lower lvls, to be honest. also you do need aa ships

[viscid swift]

You still have time, just grind normally

[sweet merlin]

Is essex reto good?

[tall kite]

i have aa ships

but not enough aa stat still

[strong tartan]

yes rainbow good

[tall kite]

my AA stat overall is 3006

[late flame]

in before she becomes cv version of warspoot

[tall kite]

i need like 3500

[shell rain]

Need help with Secrets of Abyss

[viscid swift]

Uhh what

[shell rain]

Can't unlock S.P.

Don't know what's going on

[viscid swift]

You know that total stat tells you next to nothing about how good your fleets actually are right

Like just on the subject of AA, that doesn't take into account the number of AA gun mounts

[viscid swift]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[viscid swift]

Cleat HT6

[shell rain]

Ah, they changed things on me.

Thanks for update.

[tall kite]

well im still getting obliterated

[late flame]

skill issue

[tall kite]

thanks for the valuable input

[viscid swift]

What are your fleets and what does the gear in the mob fleet look like

[tall kite]

you already saw that

i have gotten no better AA gear

ive opened like 200 boxes

should i put on those air radar auxilary for more AA

[viscid swift]

What

I'm pretty sure I've never seen your fleets

Or if I have I don't remember them

[tall kite]

i literally made a thread like 1 week ago

[eager mulch]

are there any good UR triple AP BB guns

[viscid swift]

2 weeks ago but I help a lot of people

Anyway, I literally gave you 2 fleets to work towards

[soft raft]

Yamato gun wishes it was

[tall kite]

ive already gotten those fleets

[viscid swift]

Are they all level 120

And Are all their skills maxed

[tall kite]

no obviously i cant work that fast

[soft raft]

then just keep grinding W12

[viscid swift]

Well then I don't quite know what you expected

[tall kite]

they are all level 110

[soft raft]

you dont need to rush past W12 this quick tbh

[viscid swift]

Yeah no

[tall kite]

at least

[viscid swift]

115 would be the absolute minimum and with a lack of gear you really want 120 on everyone

[soft raft]

that's 5 lvls of lvl disadvantadge they'd be facing at just 13-1
the enemy lvl at 13-4 is lvl ~120

[viscid swift]

Every level your ships are under the enemy is 2% more damage taken by them and 2% less damage dealt

[tall kite]

rip

[viscid swift]

And if your ships aren't half decently geared then forget about it

[tall kite]

well its taking a long time to level

[viscid swift]

Just spam 12-1 or T6 of the event

[tall kite]

new jersey and taihou are already level 125 and they get mvp everytime

[viscid swift]

That takes care of itself soon enough

[viscid swift]

So remove them from the fleets then.....

[tall kite]

replace with who

[viscid swift]

And place 2 ships that do need levels in their spots

[tall kite]

okay

[vale tulip]

is there a way to turn off the monthly core popup?

[stark quiver]

no

[vale tulip]

rip

[severe tinsel]

Is there any good UR ship like lion and zwei that worth to pull as f2p?

Or at least good at its job one

[sweet delta]

You don't pull for permanent URs

[soft raft]

The usual advice is Gacha UR mega pog

But don't specifically go for the permanent ones because well, they ain't gonna be going anywhere compared to the new ones which won't be back for ~2 years after their banner is gone

[severe tinsel]

I know abt permanent one not as good as limited one, i ask any good strong one i can looking forward to pull, like lion or zwei that rly helpful and strong...

[sweet delta]

All new URs

[severe tinsel]

Which is? What which one good at?

[sweet delta]

The details of whom we don't know yet!

[severe tinsel]

Ok

[sweet delta]

Rerun URs are hit or miss because most of them have substitutes or upgrades nowadays, like if you have Trafalgar and z52 then Unzen isn't important

[flat fractal]

what's like the most fool proof guide on what im supposed to do with opsi, i haven't really touched the mode and it seems confusing af

[soft raft]

There isn't really a OpSi guide besides the stuff in game

[dreamy blade]

what about it is confusing, did you complete the campaign at least?

[undone zinc]

It's Le Hardi worth buying 5 copies?

[flat fractal]

im not sure what the campaign is ngl, im coming back to the game after a while and trying to figure it out

like just try to follow this for now?

[dreamy blade]

yes thats the campaign, it goes up to ch 4 or 5 i believe

not much to really explain for that part, it's a bit of a slog but you just keep clicking through all of it

[flat fractal]

does reading through the dialogue help to explain it or is it mostly just like lore/story

[dreamy blade]

im ngl i dont really remember but the campaign is supposed to be a mini tutorial for opsi so presumably reading would be helpful

[flat fractal]

shit lmao, i definitely skipped through it when i started. i'll try to follow it through, does the actual mode open up after i complete the campaign story for it

[turbid nebula]

Is Prototype Triple 234 CB gun any good?

[dreamy blade]

tbh none of it is really super important for understanding what to do in opsi, it's more just you have to finish the campaign to actually start the "real" opsi

[flat fractal]

gotcha, ty! i'll go through this first and come back to ask questions when im done

[zenith heron]

You might be referring to the PR3 CA Gun, which was the 2nd best General use CA Gun, behind the Triple 203 SKC of PR6

[stark quiver]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19P3KPrgOrzCySoUrjDZgsfqJsCpJCyb9XmmSKozVzbw/edit?usp=sharing
someone made a guide for opsi
only for peeps who got first monthly reset

before that, you can just follow the story, try to buy out shops, shop prios are kinda the same, if you are stuck on a puzzle, then just get the same thing wrong enough times for TB to offer you a hand

[zenith heron]

Yeah, my point still stands, Its better than the Latter vs Light, Equal vs Heavy, and slightly worse vs Medium when compared to the Triple 203 SKC CA Gun

Simply saying, its the 2nd Best CA Gun

[stark quiver]

unzen gun

[forest palm]

people use the 203/55?

[stark quiver]

i forgot about it

[forest palm]

it is funny that we get a CA that wants an HE main gun, but it turns out it's better to use her signature gun

[ruby fossil]

Have no idea if this is the right channel but do i have to be a certain level for limited skins to show up or is something just wrong ?

[latent jacinth]

How long does my ships take to recover when they are tired

[vale spindle]

restart game

[vale spindle]

/wiki affection

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affection

[ruby fossil]

Already did that

Ehh ill just try reinstalling first

[latent jacinth]

6hrs Is so long

[forest palm]

put them in the dorm

[ruby fossil]

or are they just blocked on different platforms (like apple or samsung ?

[stark quiver]

what commander level are you

[ruby fossil]

Like 15 rn yea

[soft raft]

Get to lvl 16

[ruby fossil]

ok that explains it, thx

[versed forum]

what's the position for zwei/soyuz is it 2nd like implacable? any idea

[ebon verge]

how many pr8 gun bp you guys have got now?

[candid yarrow]

just me or is wiki still on the atelier event ... it isnt updated for me

[stark quiver]

27

[ebon verge]

have you been spamming Q researches?

[stark quiver]

Yes

[ebon verge]

i have been mainly doing D and only got 15

[clever valley]

Shoukd i start another pr 1 dev. Before finishing st louis? I have the ability to start roon and Neptune

[wind hazel]

finish louis then start, otherwise 24hr cooldown

[ebon verge]

you can start Noon she's good i believe but i dont think Neptune is worth it tho

after that you can start doing FdG in series 2 or Cheshire in series 3 if possible

[clever valley]

If i start roon do i still earn the vanguard xp for st louis or can only 1 be active at a time?

[late flame]

*Roon

[wind hazel]

only 1 is active

[ebon verge]

only one at a time

[clever valley]

Ah kk then i still have a while to go i think im only 30% into the 2 mill i need

[civic prairie]

Is avp usually in mob or boss fleet?

[wind hazel]

single target bossing

[civic prairie]

[undone zinc]

It's just that? Some lame 5 shell all-out assault?

[wind hazel]

what do you expect from an old elite

[plain saffron]

Old ships be like

[undone zinc]

Ohhh 😮

poor hipper

[cunning bison]

What will a fleet w essex retro be like

[strange sphinx]

triple Cv gang

[wispy island]

is this jb build bussin or disgusting

[clever valley]

Who should be my next retro?

[onyx flame]

prob portland

[gilded carbon]

How much value will i get out of hakuryuu given i have Shinano, Amagi CV and a bunch of other good Carriers?

[gilded carbon]

Portland or Saratoga?

[exotic vine]

Which ones should i use for hindenburg

[wind hazel]

usually left. unzen+drake vs Light

[clever valley]

Oh speaking of rainbow bl how many do I need to make 1 gun?

[wind hazel]

50

[jovial badge]

btw i rlly wanna know why is event grinding recommended, like what does it give??

[civic prairie]

Does avp need to equip all ironblood to the 3 plane slots?or 1 is enough to activate the skill?

[jovial badge]

(i said i was out on exp n ppl told me to grind event instead of main story)

[gilded carbon]

mats of the sometimes rare variety, coins, all the items from the shop, possibly ships and equip

also, buy the oil from the shop

[gilded carbon]

just one, i suppose

[jovial badge]

oh alrr

[undone plover]

Because event has oil cap
And campaign oil cap starts at ch9 and later
But event also gives points which give you milestone rewards and u can buy event shop stuff with it
So u are farming like normal but getting extra stuff

[exotic vine]

can i use this one for hindenburg

[near cargo]

What happened if girl reached max lvl ? I forgot, specifically where did the exp go?

[undone plover]

This is better on backliners
Ans hinden wants 2 guns ideally not AA

[wind hazel]

they stock up to 3mil, then stop increasing

[gilded carbon]

max lvl as in 100?

[jovial badge]

oh alr

[undone plover]

If they are level 125 they can store an extra 3 mil xp but after that they stop gaining xp

[exotic vine]

can you rec some i dont know which ones to use

[near cargo]

And the exp just void?

[undone plover]

Pretty much yes
It still counts for shipyard farming but yes the xp is wasted

[undone plover]

Is she dev30 (full star)?

[near cargo]

Bruh I wish at least it got piled up to make exp book or something

[exotic vine]

just 26

[undone plover]

It does through the lecture hall
But just the usual like 100+ level ships
So really no point in keeping a max level ship for farming

[undone plover]

Then I recommend u dont use her yet tbh
But if u had to or wanted to u can put a roomba for now
The twin 113 aa gun

[spark patio]

guys, Can i get San Diego’s specific item now?

[gilded carbon]

yes, from the shop

[spark patio]

protopyte shop?

[wind hazel]

no

[spark patio]

i mean the microphone

[wind hazel]

specialized core shop

depending on your UR ships status, you might wanna delay sandiego's

[spark patio]

i only have Vanguard for now. but i will consider San Diego as i can afford her

[eternal basalt]

Sakura IJN UR comes in less than a month

[wind hazel]

how many specialized core do you have?

[spark patio]

5-6k

[wind hazel]

save them

[spark patio]

For the upcoming UR?

[wind hazel]

yes

[spark patio]

ok ok, i hope the upcoming UR would be OP

[wind hazel]

sandy with augment is viable up to w13 w14

maybe w14 is kinda sussy

[eternal basalt]

Guam and LafII are VERY strong for w15, coming january

[spark patio]

so a team of URs may pass w14?

[wind hazel]

depends on what kind

[spark patio]

I will try to save cubes and get them all

[wind hazel]

you can't brute force w14, need actual tactic

[spark patio]

like gears and saving ammo?

[wind hazel]

mainly gear and fleet composition

[rapid summit]

Is there a way just fight the boss in T3 hard mode auto clearing for the event?

What about an oil cap?

[eternal basalt]

HT4-6

[vast meadow]

guys how to change ship on the operation siren?
my fleet is not that good back than when im start operation siren

[rapid summit]

Well dam

[wind hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[vast meadow]

thank you so muchhhhhh

[spark patio]

I just realized that i used too much Elite ships that my elite bulins now less than gold ones😅

[wind hazel]

good thing

[spark patio]

i think i will fight a really good SR to use soon

[granite token]

how do i unlock sp and ex

[verbal plinth]

do hardmode t6

[granite token]

okay!

[verbal plinth]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[granite token]

do i clear all 6 stages in hard?

[civic prairie]

What to prioritize in event shop if i already got 2 le hardi from sortie?

[verbal plinth]

think just 6

pins has a google sheet for shop prio

[civic prairie]

Yeah just ht6 is enough to unlock it i guess,cuz i not doing ht1-5

[stuck imp]

what do I need to prepare for UR event in september? how many cubes is a good number

[eternal basalt]

400

[wind hazel]

150-200k+coin and 350-400 cubes

[stuck imp]

okay thanks

[hoary relic]

still drake's gun worthy to craft?

hiden gun is better right?

[wind hazel]

most of the time yes

it's the lowest priority among the UR guns there

[hoary relic]

i dont know what to craft with t3 ordnance reports

twin 457mm?

[tame jungle]

you don't have to use them any time you get them you know

if there's nothing you feel like is worth crafting then just don't craft with them

[strange sphinx]

what plane should I use in Aquila's second slot if I running her with Unicorn? Fighter or db?

[wind hazel]

depends on content

[strange sphinx]

well generally as a mob fleet but Opsi also

[wind hazel]

w14 15 fighter, opsi and w13 below you go db

[strange sphinx]

also auxiliary? Should I get her Beacon for timing or just pure Pipe

[wind hazel]

just steam cata, as long as they are desynced

and well, asw on unicorn of course for 14 15

[strange sphinx]

Submarine nightmare

[wind hazel]

w13 you can do fighter too if you need the extra aa

[spark patio]

should i oath Unicorn? i think she worth a ring

[tame jungle]

if you like her sure

[strange sphinx]

I contemplating if I need temporary heal or Pre load that's why I asked that

[spark patio]

she outperformed my whole fleet

[tame jungle]

if you're doing it just for the stats i don't think it's really worth it generally

[granite token]

what’s the best team i can make with these

[strange sphinx]

for what content?

[granite token]

uhhh

what are the options

[wind hazel]

be specific, where do you want them to be? w12? opsi? pvp? META?

[tame jungle]

don't say general content or we will abduct your dog

[granite token]

what is opsi and w12

[wind hazel]

operation siren, world 12 campaign

[granite token]

w12

wait what’s meta

[wind hazel]

META showdown

[granite token]

oh no definitely w12

currently struggling with defeating the event EX stage

rikka keeps dying

[strange sphinx]

[wind hazel]

warspite unicorn essex
portland yuudachi/shimakaze/sandiego louis

uvh shinano saratoga
eugen helena yuudachi/shimakaze/sandiego

[strange sphinx]

also, what are your gears

[spark patio]

what is META showdown?

[granite token]

garbage

[wind hazel]

naturally, your ships are very underleveled

no need to attempt anymore for now, they won't survive

[strange sphinx]

Just push campaign until W12

also when the Opsi reset? I didn't Asked that earlier

[verbal plinth]

every month

[spark patio]

guys, should i stop grind the event until i got 20k points or i got everything from the store?

[wind hazel]

ideally until you can get to 55k by the end of event

[spark patio]

…i can only do HT4, can i still get that much?

[wind hazel]

yes

[wind hazel]

💀 bro...

https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/

start reading this

[spark patio]

it will take you a while, Mori…

[wind hazel]

and don't go beyond +10 on random gear, this is super wasteful

[spark patio]

only for UR gear?

[wind hazel]

no, on correct gear

[spark patio]

so there some terrible gears even they are UR?

[granite token]

isn’t that good for shinano

[wind hazel]

no, it's terrible

[granite token]

sigh

[wind hazel]

depends on the case

[hoary relic]

stick to this right?

[wind hazel]

even this chart requires some context

like you see this, and notice the la9 and skyraiders are red, which are priority, but the TBs should be prioritized first, it's 1/3 of the cost and more use case

[hoary relic]

welp since TBs cant be replaced with fighter like dive bombers

so that's like u would always use it

[granite token]

which of these would be best for long term

[wind hazel]

unicorn, essex, sandiego, shinano, helena

[granite token]

okay!

[wind hazel]

don't think that far, you just need to level your ships for progression

half of these aren't even lv100

[granite token]

rip uvh

[granite token]

same team?

[wind hazel]

no, i gave you the team above

this was me answering your question on which would be best for long term

[granite token]

so i should focus level these

[wind hazel]

no

[granite token]

[wind hazel]

can you just, follow this and level them all to lv120

[granite token]

yeah

[wind hazel]

switch out whichever that reached lv120 with another ship that you wanna level

you don't "focus level" on specific ship, you level them all up at the same time

[ionic kraken]

when you research a pr/dr series of bps is it better to go for the blue or the purple coin research for a random character?

[granite token]

got it, onto gear for the team uhh give me a second

[wind hazel]

read the gear guide above

[granite token]

okay!

[hardy creek]

Who should I develop first between shimanto, kearsage, agir, Felix schultz

[spark patio]

guys, is glowworm retrofit good?

[wind hazel]

the one you can dev30

agir is coinable, do her

[hardy creek]

Oh alright, thx

[spark patio]

why did this tier list seem outdated?

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
i don’t see new ships here

[late flame]

join their discord and ask them there

[spark patio]

oh ok i will

[wind hazel]

because it is outdated

up to you

why do you delete message

[spark patio]

no way, my admiral zenker moved to a higher tier. why is it?

[split gazelle]

didnt she get an augment recently

[wind hazel]

no she's a new ship

well, relatively new

[split gazelle]

oh right nvm it was hipper

[spark patio]

i got 9k merit points, can i get 20k to get eldrigde before she get reset?