gameplay-help

[ocean oriole]

Should I up that to one or two or 200?

[idle perch]

enough to clear Meta Coordinate Logger (Meta Show down)

if u want to clear opsi for 360/360, i suggest you to keep track of their stats

if not you will end up like me, rolling the dice every month to clear 1 star (im at 359/360)

[whole crypt]

ideally you'd be doing more than just for the showdown coords, as much as it takes to clear out loggers and port shops by end of month

[whole crypt]

it doesn't matter whether you keep track most people will be stuck with rolling promoted pawn spawns towards the tail end

[idle perch]

its best to keep track of those so u wont waste time lol

[whole crypt]

what's the point, it's rng

[idle perch]

if u get to clear it early, u wont have to spend more time clearing it

[whole crypt]

yes but it's rng

[idle perch]

if u r doing opsi now, might as well remove the rng factor

[whole crypt]

if it doesn't spawn it doesn't spawn however way you clear it

unless you spent months not clearing, but that's a different issue

[vague oracle]

kinda overwhelming for me. Is there any single set of gears you use for all bosses

[whole crypt]

nope

any boss that doesn't need you to do some level of gear optimizing is just too easy to be relevant

[idle perch]

lmao im so old in this game that im still using the previous "best" gear, I didnt even update their gear roster

[ocean oriole]

What is showdown coords?

Also, I didn't know there were monthly shop for the operation siren lol

[whole crypt]

showdown coords is the 200 thingies you collect every day to do your meta fights

[ocean oriole]

Uhhhhh... I don't think I've been doing that... 😓

Damn... There's so much in this game lol

[whole crypt]

for shops go into a blue port to check, it's where a significant amount of stuff will be from each month

it's only monthly if you've cleared up to ch4 in OS otherwise there's no reset

[vague oracle]

i only do meta showdown bosses and thats pretty much it i guess but dmg still kinda low. Lion doing all the dmg

[whole crypt]

not home now can't really give you detailed help, how much damage do you do per attempt

[south shard]

Question... I just saw some peeps say mlb ships don't give xp to research

[whole crypt]

they are shitting you

[vague oracle]

around 450k+ with air support xd

[whole crypt]

is it your vanguard dying early or just not doing enough damage total

[whole crypt]

all a ship needs to do to provide xp for research is be of the right faction and the right position (vanguard/main)

[vague oracle]

vanguard is tanky enough to last until last 5-10 sec but doesnt deal much. so yeah overall doesnt do much dmg

hold on let me do a quick run

[whole crypt]

what are you using now

[wind hazel]

im surprised they lasted that long

[stark saffron]

what good US BB Team

[wind hazel]

what other UR do you have

the ijns aren't really good vs kwkz

and well.. the vanguard aren't that good either

[vague oracle]

I missed a lot of UR when I was away

[vague oracle]

That's my default to go team xd

[jaunty wadi]

im new, is it better to level the sr cv i got, or just be patient until i retrofit unicorn

[whole crypt]

depends on which CV that is and you can use both

[wind hazel]

level bisz, traf and uvh up

go triple BB with mk2/mk7/6 with traf

[jaunty wadi]

its intrepid but im also trying to level some other characters rn so im trying to be efficiennt with my materials and stuff

[whole crypt]

sandy probably better 3rd ship after traf than the two ships that are not azuma

[whole crypt]

where are you in the game now

[jaunty wadi]

waiting to hit commander level 40 so i can continue main story

[stark saffron]

with laf2 i should probs go for a US CV team yes?

[whole crypt]

what are your other ships now

[whole crypt]

using Laffey II has nothing specific to using an USS team

[ocean oriole]

What should I be doing everyday?

[jaunty wadi]

fleet 2 is just kind of random characters im trying to build up first fleet rn

[ocean oriole]

Is there like a small list I can get?

Because I didn't know showdown was a thing until right now...

[soft osprey]

Who's gun (if we're being historically accurate) is this?

[whole crypt]

kursk

[stark saffron]

so this honestly doesn't matter?

[whole crypt]

it's not a primary concern

[vague oracle]

Almost half of the dmg is from artillery support

[stark saffron]

eh aight, which other vanguards should i use
currently im using a full sumner team

[rapid summit]

This means I don’t need cognitive anymore and I can now grind exp for pr/dr?

[verbal plinth]

max level ships still give pr/dr xp

[rain vine]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[whole crypt]

have you cleared ch4, because you should have been given a tutorial for showdown at the end of ch1

[whole crypt]

don't use 2 fleets early on you don't have the gear and bulins to spare to do both at the same time, 1 properly setup fleet is better than 2 half-assed ones

[vague oracle]

Smtg like this for now yeah?

[whole crypt]

you can grind regardless of whether you need to cog the ship

[noble pawn]

Lion is so good man

[jaunty wadi]

yeah rn im focussing on my main fleet, im not levelling second fleet outside of commission xp, second fleet is just made up of characters i replaced in main fleet

[whole crypt]

yes but need more levels on anything that's not at least 120

[vague oracle]

got it

[wind hazel]

yes but you need level

[whole crypt]

Dunkerque M and Amagi are 🚮 , Hood much better bump her as much as you can, LB and get her aug

you probably want to go back to the basics you're using a lot of high rarity ships that are just 🚮 when you can't LB them
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/

[jaunty wadi]

yeah hoods in the dorm, those 2 are just in fleet so i could keep up with the gameplay bc i got them before hood

[whole crypt]

Dunkurque you can probably LB as cruise goes but Amagi is just whatever, not being able to LB her is just even worse

if you have XP packs just bump up Hood and put her in straight away

[jaunty wadi]

okok ill do that rn

do i want hood as flagship?

[whole crypt]

Talinn's decent and you already LB'd her once so I guess you can just stay with her, but you probably want to replace Shimakaze

[jaunty wadi]

yeah i was thinking of that, im waiting to get the bulins for her rn

[whole crypt]

also probably Isla

don't waste bulins on Shimakaze

[jaunty wadi]

why not use them on shimakaze? just better ships i could lb?

[whole crypt]

UR bulins are heavily timegated, Shimakaze is an aged ship and you can wait for dupes from pity

save the bulins for newer, more consequential URs

[jaunty wadi]

are there new urs coming in 7th anniversary event

[whole crypt]

no but Musashi is going to be archive soon, next new UR is in Sep

even if you wanted to LB an older UR you're better off working on ships like NJ, Shinano or Vanguard

[jaunty wadi]

okay ill just wait until i get one of those then

[jaunty wadi]

im guessing archive means moving to main pool?

[whole crypt]

yes but you don't pull for them, she'll be available through the perm pity too

[steel hedge]

whhat oother shipgirls heal like perseus?

[jaunty wadi]

okok that makes sense

[whole crypt]

Unicorn

[jaunty wadi]

there are gonna be event pulls for 7th aniv right?

[whole crypt]

there are, ships already announced, but no idea how good they are so if you're short on cubes you may want to just do minimal to save for JP anniv

[jaunty wadi]

yeah im saving rn

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys can I get some quick help?

I'm stuck here, what do?

[stark saffron]

level up?

[ocean oriole]

Is there any recommended stage I should farm sorties?

[whole crypt]

run ch9 until your commander level is high enough

[ocean oriole]

Is there a recommended stage?

[whole crypt]

doesn't seriously matter, it's just that ch9 has oil cap

[onyx flame]

just run the highest you can auto

[ocean oriole]

Oooooh I didn't know that. Ty

[whole crypt]

9-1 has higher XP/oil but 9-4 better coins

[ocean oriole]

Oooooh nice. Yeah, this is like the info I'm looking for, thank you 😁

[jaunty wadi]

does it take ages to retrofit a ship? idk if its smart or not to replace shimakaze in my vanguard with helena until i can lb shimakaze comfortably

[wind hazel]

you wont be using shimakaze for a long time

and you can use helena without retrofit

[whole crypt]

how comfortable are you really, because you're not looking for just 1 LB now, you're looking at 3 more bulins down the road for MLB

and once you use it you're 1 bulin down for future URs

[wind hazel]

both shimakaze and kron are very very last priority in term of bulin investment lol

[vague oracle]

Alright just got her gear ready by picking here and there from older ships

[whole crypt]

don't spend bulins on ships you're only using halfway

[jaunty wadi]

some horrid luck ive got bro legit first UR i pulled 💔

[wind hazel]

ignore the +7

[jaunty wadi]

also since i already have lb 1 tallinn, shouild i just go for her mlb? heard somewhere its better to mlb one ship than half ass multiple

[whole crypt]

that's my poorly geared one

Talinn is fine to continue

but you may want to LB Hood first

[jaunty wadi]

i have enough bulins to mlb both

[whole crypt]

she's a decent tank you can keep using and I'd stick with her since you already started, otherwise I'd say use Portland

[whole crypt]

also Helena's retrofit isn't that important

the first ship you want to focus on retrofitting is Unicorn

early on retrofitting will be slow because you need time to collect the prints, and every node costs considerable coins as you go

[jaunty wadi]

i can lowkey try retrofit both over time

ill just try get their levels up for mean time then

is it bad idea to mlb both tallinn and hood rn? or should i wait ofr the event ships

[wind hazel]

mlb now, progress with your ships so that you can use them in event

[noble pawn]

You might in dire needs of coins if you LB both of them

[whole crypt]

yeh what Mori said, you want the fleet in working condition to grind the event

[jaunty wadi]

yeah alright

ill mlb hood rn, might wait to mlb tallinn just in case bc i can always just lb her later if the evnt is fucking me

[whole crypt]

I dont't think any of the new ships will be in a position to replace Talinn as you tank for a good while
Massena might be good to replace Hood but we don't know and you'll need to raise her from scratch

Bois Belleau may be a good third ship for your fleet after Hood and Unicorn

so overall there's not a lot of reason to hold back now

[jaunty wadi]

true true

im saving just in case theyre crazy, i dont wanna mlb everything today and then in like 3 days some of the new ships are insane

[whole crypt]

very unlikely

[wind hazel]

even if they are insane, you can raise them for your 2nd fleet

[whole crypt]

like Indiana last year was a great BB but even then it's not like she's miles ahead of Hood

[wind hazel]

what you need now is to progress, so focus on what you have, not what you might have

[woven star]

Essex may want 1-3 gold bulins and she will be in anny pack

[whole crypt]

and even if the ships were good they'll only be transitional before you get your meta picks

[jaunty wadi]

yeah true

[wind hazel]

UR Lane

[jaunty wadi]

okay ill try lb the stuff ive got now then, thanks for all the help 🙏

[woven star]

Ah forget it. She still need 4 bulins before refit for mlb

[whole crypt]

we don't even know how good Essex retrofit will be too

her current skill set is weird for lategame

[woven star]

Depends if she get second fighters slot so yeah

[whole crypt]

she's our first carrier UR retrofit

past good retrofits did add planes but Essex is a damage/buff skill short from being a boss carrier

there's a fair chance she'll end up being a great mob carrier for 15 but non-bossing skill sets are kind of

[wraith knoll]

can i still retrofit eldrige even after missing the event?

[whole crypt]

you'll need to wait for the item to rerun or add to shop

[wraith knoll]

gosh darn

i used to see eldrige in the shop all the time, didnt ever think shed get a retro

[whole crypt]

neither did we

[ocean oriole]

Guys, I made a mistake...

What should I spend my coin on?

[crimson glacier]

no reason to spend it unless its something you need

[whole crypt]

save for next build banner
if not then LB, retrofits, making/enhancing gear

[cobalt robin]

Anything you might need or want really

[thin flint]

So I reached lvl 100. Now what?

[rapid summit]

Oh I thought me needing to use cognitive means they can’t get leveled up

[whole crypt]

even they will cap out at 125 regardless
ships will count as long as they're the right faction and ship position even if they themselves don't gain any more XP

[rapid summit]

Oh ty

[whole crypt]

you keep grinding

[south sequoia]

between implac kear yk2 and soyuz nakhi rumey which one is superior vs light armor content

[whole crypt]

last I heard SoyNakLion

but if out of those two I'm not really sure

[wraith knoll]

How much coin on avg do u guys get after farming 12-4 with high efficiency n oil cap?

[forest palm]

roughly 2k per run iirc

[wraith knoll]

Oh eamn

[whole crypt]

with HELP x2

[wraith knoll]

I can only farm 9-4 currently but do I have to take out every mob fleet in order to get max gold or can I just cruise through n take out the boss fleet while getting the same gold

[forest palm]

just woke up it'd be 2x 2,000 either way

[rain vine]

its a clearing bonus, you just have to clear the boss fleet

[wraith knoll]

Is that an acronym

[whole crypt]

killing more mobs doesn't add more bonus coins

[wraith knoll]

Oh word

[whole crypt]

High Efficiency combat Logistics Plan

[wraith knoll]

Ohhh

[noble pawn]

I'm currently grinding her to Lvl 120 and wait for rerun lol

[whole crypt]

the bonus coins is based on average oil spent, not total, so more mob fights actually reduces the bonus coins because oil cap is lower

[wraith knoll]

Omg damn I been leaking gold for no reason

I immediately assumed I'd have to clear everything to get all the coin possible

[wraith knoll]

I always ignored her when she came up in the shop but im gonna swipe her the next time I see her

[forest palm]

there isn't much incentive to use HELP btw, unless you're tight on time

[clever valley]

Oh so i really never want to do full clears after i get the star for it? Ive been wasting a lot of extra oil it seems

[wraith knoll]

Damn I just used single pulled vanguard

[whole crypt]

what a regular 12-4 should look like

[wraith knoll]

Its such a dilemma tho I want to use all these good ships in my fleet asap but I need to focus on maxing one ur ship before working on another

[whole crypt]

just keep playing you'll eventually level everything

[clever valley]

Is there a guide for the meowfficers i have no idea what a good one looks like

[onyx flame]

there this but meowfficers are a really late game thing, you really only need 2 sr one at max for opsi for the cat nodes early on https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide#BB_Meowfficers

[clever valley]

Kk ty

[narrow kiln]

Can we guess anything about Essex Retrofit now?

[whole crypt]

no

[wraith knoll]

I have like zero core data but I wanna start farming. Do all hard mode levels drop the same-ish amount or do some drop more than others

[whole crypt]

each higher chapter is 2 more cores per run so hit the highest chapter you can manage

[viral jetty]

Which ship from the shipyard should I develop first?

[whole crypt]

something PR1 you can work on without much trouble, it's not something to focus on in early game

[noble pawn]

It just keeps pilling up I totally feels you I have like 20 ships backlog lagging behind

[viral jetty]

I can start developing almost all ships, that's why I wanna start with that

[whole crypt]

almost all from PR1 or almost all from the whole roster

because it's rarely the latter

[viral jetty]

Whole shipyard, except some iron blood and northn

[whole crypt]

did you just not work on research for a long time

in any case if no KMS then start with Anchorage or Plymouth

[viral jetty]

I never tried that, and I was inactive for a long time

Alr, tysm for the help

[fierce jackal]

Just so I understand, pulling is no good most of the time? Unless its limited?

[wraith knoll]

Tai yuan retrofit worth at all? I noticed she's on tier 0 but lacks a desc

[rain vine]

limited UR banners require 400 cubes to get pity
if you are well above that, you can consider pulling non UR banners
outside of events, you do 1 light pull

[undone plover]

Yes
U want to have enough cubes for UR events
So sometimes even limited banners are less of a priority
Like u can do some pulls on limited non UR banners but dont burn all your cubes if u get unlucky

[rain vine]

yes

[fierce jackal]

So basically save lots cubes = big return on investment if lucky

[undone plover]

She is good
But maybe not necessary or priority depending on your account

[fierce jackal]

When UR of course

[undone plover]

Next month
Sep is JP anni and is almost definitely a UR event

[fierce jackal]

Oooh

[undone plover]

We will get essex retro in this week’s event
She is a retro UR but doesnt need any cubes

[fierce jackal]

Don't worry guys, Ill soon understand all these new words

[robust nymph]

which of these would suit agir better?

[undone plover]

113 or quad bofor

113 best on your AA carry

[novel solstice]

The quad bofors is fine though it would probably be better to get a +fp gun unless you are in a really plane-heavy place.

[robust nymph]

who of those who have the quad bofor could i give the twin 105?

[warped acorn]

113 or staag for sandy

[undone plover]

113
Staag goes on backline

[undone plover]

Laffey ii

If it is SR laffey it doesnt matter
Give them all 113 if u can

[robust nymph]

i only have those two 113.. are they from boxes

[undone plover]

Boxes and research/map drop also I think
So check if u can craft more maybe
3 roomba (113) on frontline should work up to ch14 I believe

[warped acorn]

oh well so 113 is the best aa for aa carry other than the rainbow ones?

well this is my aa's

[undone plover]

It has the best range
And good alpha dmg
That is why it is good on your carry
Ofc this is just for gold ones
Not talking about UR AA

[robust nymph]

how do you have so many staag

[warped acorn]

only had 1 of it guess ima give sandy that

[forest palm]

lots of research

[undone plover]

Try and get some 113
But the last one the twin 90 is basically a quad bofor upgrade and also very good

[warped acorn]

no idea

[robust nymph]

ive been doing researches non stop in queue for 45 days and i have 2

is the UR plane 20/50 good?

[warped acorn]

hmm seems like i could aim on that one cuz i can get 2 from prints

[undone plover]

The 3 gold AA u want to use are the twin90 the quad bofor and the twin 113 (roomba)
If u dont have enough just use any gold AA
If u have enough roomba and dont want to think about AA just use 3 roomba on vanguard until ch15
Then come here to ask what to use in ch15

[warped acorn]

alr thanks

giving the whole backline bofors staag no matter hull and vg 90mm wont ruin fleet aa?

[undone plover]

Triple 90mm can have issue due to range but honestly if u have unicorn she will carry you up to ch14 anyway

And 113 is easy to get

[warped acorn]

its from every faction box?

[undone plover]

I think royal navy only

[warped acorn]

uh oh, so it would be good for vg to have 2(90mm) + 1(113mm)?

[undone plover]

Yeah that is a pretty good combo

In this case u would put the 113 on the best AA ship

[tropic tusk]

when is update again thursday?

[warped acorn]

thanks, will make it easily on time soon 🫡

[robust nymph]

do i get prints of this from all researches or only a certain letter?

[undone plover]

Dont think it has been confirmed but probably Thursday

Patch notes should be today I believe
CN and JP notes at least

[tropic tusk]

oh its not yet comfirm?

[undone plover]

The plane is only from series 7
And best rates are from Q then G
Sometimes from D

Check this (gear focus portion)

[robust nymph]

ive ran only Q and G since almost 2 months and only 20 prints, now i started going for PR ships prints.. i’ll probably never get it

[boreal wagon]

we know that the event starts on the 14th

[undone plover]

2 months should be closer to 40-60 tbh
Perhaps u were unlucky? Or maybe u had downtime on research?

[tropic tusk]

if new event on 14 how is ther no update

[zenith heron]

it really takes time, I got like my Ply Gun there for 5 months stuck on 49/50 since its RNG...

But usually 2-4 months is the usual

[boreal wagon]

no one said there isnt but the maint could be earlier (but its highly unlikely it will be)

[robust nymph]

maybe its more like 45 days.. a bit unlucky perhaps

[undone plover]

I just skimmed #game-news and didnt see any confirmation that is what I meant
It is most likely thursday
No reason it shouldnt be

[tropic tusk]

right so as normally would be patch on the day

[forest palm]

that only push up patch dates if there's a holiday

[ocean oriole]

Does anyone have the Yumia guide?

[boreal wagon]

they have also done it for CN anniv without holidays

[undone plover]

Check the image I posted
Maybe u were doing some mistakes
Never take research that is longer than 4h
Dont take the commission ones
Dont take basic research

[forest palm]

that's cause of exams which can be seen in the same way as a holiday

[undone plover]

U mean for her gear?

[ocean oriole]

Yeaaa, I'd like to see which ones to use?

I saw on the tier list that there's several variations of her.

[undone plover]

https://youtu.be/2p50hpGY-cI?feature=shared

[boreal wagon]

sure they can be but they also can not be so i clarified

[ocean oriole]

Cool, ty guys 😁

[undone plover]

Check this vid
Idk if anyone made a picture guide

[wind hazel]

copy paste into renhex

Yumia loadout, taken from suchiguma's video

[ocean oriole]

Ty, the video is good tho.

All this effort to be slightly better than mid though... 😭

[wind hazel]

ye it's not something i would personally recommend to use, unless you're really desperate for a cv to use and you got nothing

[ocean oriole]

Why didn't you post this? 😭

[pearl vapor]

I have an account from like June last year when I tried the game for a week. Is there any beginner stuff that would've expired by now or am I good to just keep playing on it?

[undone plover]

Better to keep playing unless u bricked it by badly misusing gems (if u are f2p)

[pearl vapor]

I dont think I used any yet, so Ill keep playing it. Thanks!

[ocean oriole]

Hi guys, in gear lab what is the best thing to work towards?

Also if possible does anyone have a weapon tier list or guide?

It's all very confusing... 😅

[wind hazel]

unnecessary

the picture loadout is just for easy reference in the future instead of opening a video for other players

[undone plover]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/gear-lab
also check /gearlab in #bot-spam for notes on the gear

[ocean oriole]

Sloppy copy

[ocean oriole]

How can I get more materials?

For building weapons?

In the game I mean.

[undone plover]

Just by doing opsi
It is all spread around between the different opsi content

[ocean oriole]

What is OPSI mean?

[undone plover]

Operation siren

[ocean oriole]

Ahhhhh, bro I haven't even touched it really...

I was doing like one mission a day for the dailies... Lol

[undone plover]

U really should

[ocean oriole]

I'd like to, it just seems really time-consuming...

[undone plover]

Most of it can be automated
If u cba to clear the map I recommend buying the 5k oil logger and strategic searching the map

[ocean oriole]

Instead of just doing sorties while I'm at work.

[undone plover]

Buy the loggers

Then find a free weekend and do the abyssal and arbiter

[ocean oriole]

Ty I will look into it the oil loggers

[undone plover]

The trick is to make a good mob fleet that can automate 90% of it

[ocean oriole]

Do I have a good mob fleet rn? 😁

Lol sorry I had to ask...

I'm actually struggling to get two teams together right now 😅

[undone plover]

I gtg now but post it here and someone will give advice

[ocean oriole]

Take care now be safe 🙏

[wind hazel]

i am now Faerlein 2

[ocean oriole]

Mori, I love you man.

It's okay tho, I know what I must do.

[wind hazel]

orly

[ocean oriole]

No, but I will be back if I need any help so thank you... 😅

[civic prairie]

Is retrofitting sandiego good?

[wind hazel]

yes, but can be expensive

[ocean oriole]

If new don't.

[wind hazel]

her augment takes priority, retro can be later

[civic prairie]

Alright

[ocean oriole]

Hey Mori what can I do with these Bulins?

Can I retire them or should I save them? They're just eating up a lot of space.

[woven star]

Save

[ocean oriole]

Are there even any elite ships worth building?

[tropic tusk]

save

[woven star]

You forgot about tech point from elites

[ocean oriole]

What are tech points?

[woven star]

Without mlb you can't reach it

[ocean oriole]

Bro, why are there so many mechanics in this game...

[tropic tusk]

gives u bonus stats n stuff

[tropic tusk]

if u dont know wht is tech theres alot more u dont know

[ocean oriole]

Ik I don't know a lot of things about this game lol 😂

I swear I learned something different every time I come in here...

[woven star]

It's a long term mechanic in this game to make you fleet more stronger

[tropic tusk]

its normal

[ocean oriole]

And how do I activate the mechanic?

[woven star]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

Ships has two stages. When you get them and when they reach lvl 120

[woven star]

When they get lvl 120 they have group stat buff like +1 or +2 rld, fp, avi etc. Depends on ships and some priorities

[ocean oriole]

Cool, ty guys.

Now, time for the big question. How do I get to level 120? And will it be difficult?

Can I do it by the end of the week lol

Or is this going to be like a month-long thing?

[woven star]

Farm-farm-farm when they in your fleet

[ocean oriole]

I would but my laffey got tired

Seriously her morale is low

[woven star]

Swap her on another ship and level up them

[whole crypt]

for a newer player it's probably a multi-week endeavour depending on how high you can farm, for 👴 it's like a 2 to 3 day thing

[ocean oriole]

I only have five units that are MLB... 😓

[woven star]

You have elite bulins. That's why you keep save them

[ocean oriole]

Do you have recommend elite units I should level up?

Or break?

[whole crypt]

more like what do you have

[woven star]

CV or BBs priority?

[whole crypt]

there's no point recommending ships you don't have

[whole crypt]

also leveling elites for tech is fairly low priority so you're just looking to free up space by LBing mostly, not actually raising them

[ocean oriole]

So it doesn't really matter? 😅

[finite isle]

Go for z23 and Ark Royal

[warped acorn]

would the aa guns of these shipgirls be correct?

[noble pawn]

12-4

[ocean oriole]

Cool, ty guys 😁

Or do you recommend I go to the shop and pick up a unit from there?

[woven star]

As for me begin from this. Left BBs, right CVs

[whole crypt]

not really for early game, also purple bulins are fairly easy to get so just whatever

leveling for tech is less important than leveling actually useful ships first

[woven star]

And btw elite bulins you can used on rare ships. But it's on your own

[ocean oriole]

Funny question but are there any rare ships that are as good or better than elite ships?

[noble pawn]

Yama Fusou Retrofit

[finite isle]

Casablanca maybe?

[woven star]

Not really most of them for beginer fleet and have better versions

[finite isle]

Have not used her for a while but i remember her being really good

[whole crypt]

she isn't though

[woven star]

California Pennsylvania Tennessee have high drop rate on late maps

[whole crypt]

she just had a crossfleet cv buff which now also exists on Independence retrofit

[finite isle]

oh yeah

[ocean oriole]

Ahhhh understood. Ty guys, I will probably work on z23 or Ark Royal for exp farm.

And to use my Bulins.

[finite isle]

she's one of the first crossfleet buff ship that's why

[whole crypt]

those 2 are good, z23 you have a dupe you should use first

[vast sparrow]

i ahvent checked my cores lately, i have 3.6k what to spend (Commander lvl 115)

[ocean oriole]

Do I touch this for z23 or no?

[woven star]

Not really

[ocean oriole]

Do I touch it at little or not at all?

So don't invest anything into it?

[noble pawn]

Z23 is my first retrofit it's great early investment

[woven star]

Have you Independence, Unicorn, Helena retro first?

[finite isle]

you should

[ocean oriole]

I have Unicorn, Helena & Laffey Retrofitted already.

[finite isle]

even if not fully retrofit it still gives her some great buff for early game

[ocean oriole]

I forgot to have Saratoga retrofitted to.

[woven star]

If you have Laffy you'll get not much from z23 now

[noble pawn]

I only retrofit Z23 and Ayanami from my starter Laffey and Javelin is just chilling in the dock

[whole crypt]

Portland

[ocean oriole]

I just checked, I don't have enough T2 & T3 to fully retrofit her anyway... 😓

[woven star]

As for me if you have one retro ship from starter pack not much difference from retro another 2 last. Just a waste of resources for fun...

[ocean oriole]

Portland?

[finite isle]

Ahhh yes, she's great at tanking

And very cheap to retro too

[ocean oriole]

But I have Prinz Eugen tho? 😁

Lmao jk. I wish she was good... Sadge

Feels bad man...

I got her pretty early, so I didn't know any better & put bulin in her...

[noble pawn]

Isn't Prinz a better option than Portland?

[woven star]

You got your first waifu. Achievement unlock

[ocean oriole]

Brooooo... 😭

[finite isle]

I don't think so

[ocean oriole]

Prinz Eugen retrofit please...

[finite isle]

Portland decrease Dmg taken for the entire fleet is nuts

[ocean oriole]

Wow, that's actually insane...

That sounds like an actual boss monster ability.

[woven star]

I more like Heinrich little better than Eugen but Portland enough

[finite isle]

only 25% every 20s tho

[warped acorn]

is there a list of meta based on difficultly?

[ocean oriole]

I feel like there's a bigger boss monster that does more with that same ability...

[red hawk]

can I replace portland with retro San Diego

[whole crypt]

portland is less durable than eugen but durable enough while doing a tiny bit more damage and costing no sr bulins

sandy can replace portland if you have her fully retrofitted with augment but at the point where you do it she's not a tank slot

[zenith heron]

Eugen is just pure Bulk, shitty Damage otherwise

[ocean oriole]

Wowwww, thanks guys 👍

[red hawk]

I have her at the modernization spot rn, just wondering if she wouldn't be worth slotting in my first fleet then swapping portland to my second

[whole crypt]

sandy is not a tank she just happens to be bulky enough for most things you can tank with portland, if in a completed state

[red hawk]

ahh

[ocean oriole]

Btw, is she any good? I just pulled her right now...

[wind hazel]

no

[ocean oriole]

Awwwwwww...

[red hawk]

does charybdis have a use? I don't have the tier list bookmarked

randomly got it from my daily light pull

[wind hazel]

i dont think so, even her tech is shit

[red hawk]

lol

lots of cool looking ships that are just garbo huh

[wind hazel]

yes

[hushed sorrel]

you can still use them. just not for endgame content

[red hawk]

yeah I've got a couple collab ships I'll be using for midgame, Yumia and Kala

[finite isle]

She an okay mid game AA ship, that's all

[hushed sorrel]

if you like the ships you can also use them for operation siren. you dont need 4 best case fleets for that

[red hawk]

that's one thing I kinda hate about games like these- they'll put so much good design into something that's destined for obscurity, but I'm planning on using a couple to fill gaps while I'm getting better stuff anyway so they'll get used

[finite isle]

which is not really good for her position because any ship can blitz through midgame no matter their AA stat...

[red hawk]

I just don't wanna overspend resources on stuff

[wind hazel]

that's why you spend resources on good ships, then go for waifu

[zenith heron]

||Waifu over META enjoyers be like||

[vast sparrow]

been using the uboats and leo combo for a long time...is there a better one?

[red hawk]

I did pull the collab ships, but I only invested in ones that you said were ok to use, and honestly I still have over 200 cubes for next event. Most of them I got just spamming event nodes. Im working on getting my first fleet and all gear up, while slowly working in other ships for the second

[zenith heron]

its been Fish pack until now...

typical Archerfish-Albacore-Flasher

[hushed sorrel]

you gain many cubes once you get reruns where you dont need the ships. each pull ticket is one extra cube from daily mission

[finite isle]

Wolfpack Meta is still living strong my man!

[zenith heron]

well if you have Wolfpack done already, its alr to use and stay on it, unless you want some min maxxing damage

[red hawk]

it helped that the collab ships dropped freely from missions and I didn't spend a ton to get the rest

[ocean oriole]

Guys, how do I do better at backline disruption?

[wind hazel]

use i-58

[ocean oriole]

I just tried it and got a C...

[wind hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxC2Iy4XVfE&t=22s

[ocean oriole]

Uhhhhhh...

[finite isle]

God I can't remember the last time I do these daily mission manually

[ocean oriole]

I haven't passed it yet so I have to do it manually...

[wind hazel]

maybe watch the video i linked

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys dumb question how much morale is used per battle?

[undone plover]

-2 per node
And -10 if they die

Only for campaign and event maps
Other places dont consume morale

[ocean oriole]

Do they lose moral if they don't battle?

[undone plover]

No

[ocean oriole]

Damn... 😭

I've been going one team only because I thought they lost morale together...

[undone plover]

U should do 1 fleet for mob and 1 for boss

[ocean oriole]

I don't have enough good units for two fleets... 😓

Also not all are MLB

[undone plover]

Oh… then 1 is fine for now
As long as it has unicorn

[ocean oriole]

I only have five MLB rn...

Yeah it has unicorn. I also have Pergeus or however you spell it. But she's definitely not built...

[undone plover]

Unicorn is enough
U dont want 2 healers until ch14/15
and def not perseus + uni ever

[ocean oriole]

What about Perseus & Yumia (healer) could I use that for team 2 eventually?

I say eventually cuz it's going to be a while. I'm building my Enterprise right now.

[quick grotto]

Do the rainbow blueprints in the proto shop refresh or no?

[undone plover]

Team 2 doesnt want healer since it only does 1 battle (boss)

[warped acorn]

yo bro would the aa gun spread looks like this?

[red hawk]

I've been using yumia and uni, is that not a good idea?

[undone plover]

Yeah looks fine

[warped acorn]

also ap gun would be better for biscuit right

[red hawk]

what are yall using to post images like that?

[warped acorn]

al fleetbuilder

[undone plover]

Yumia is fine since she also does good dmg and her heal is a bonus
The issue with perseus is she frontloads her dmg then becomes useless after that
Which is even worse when unicorn also has a preload

[red hawk]

ahh ok, but would I maybe be better putting yumia on my second, the other two carriers I'm levelling RN are enty and sara

[undone plover]

Wait does yumia even heal? I forget her skills

[red hawk]

I thought she does? or is that just one of her items

I've seen different builds for her

[undone plover]

Let me check

But it is fine to use her

[red hawk]

I'm an idiot I was trying to use this tool and I was going nuts trying to understand why I couldn't find my ships

the first part is the main, and it filters between van and main, I was looking for Z23 in the Mains

[ocean oriole]

Omg guys, finally...

She's not useless anymore... 😭

[agile patrol]

hi
should I pick Shinano or New Jersey when I get the handbook reward thingy?

[ocean oriole]

Or she's at least usable now.

[undone plover]

Shinano

[ocean oriole]

New Jersey hands down...

[agile patrol]

Give me 2.5 reasons I should pick Shinano over New Jer
well now im confused

[red hawk]

I was told it was shinano

[ocean oriole]

I could have sworn someone told me to get New Jersey when I first started playing lol

[agile patrol]

[undone plover]

NJ is kind of powercrept
But shinano is still part of the top CV meta
U can pick NJ
She is easier to use cuz BB are more noob friendly but u will soon have enough UR BB and she will be sidelined
Essentially she is more easily replaced

[agile patrol]

ohhh so. Shinano is less replacable. NJ has errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, alternatives. Shinano does not

oki that seems fair

[undone plover]

More or less
Depends what gets released in the following months
But there are more UR BBs than UR CVs
Vanguard in perma exchange is better than NJ for example

[soft raft]

#trophy-room

[ocean oriole]

But look at her...

[red hawk]

so NJ isn't bad, its just something you can do without, while shinano is more important at this point?

[undone plover]

Memes are frowned upon here

[red hawk]

or more useful I should say

[agile patrol]

AWWW THAT'S SO PRECIOUS.
I'm still picking Shinano

[ocean oriole]

Ohhhh, I didn't know fun wasn't allowed here... 😓

[undone plover]

Basically yeah
Short term NJ might be more useful
But u shouldnt only think short term

[ocean oriole]

I guess I won't be getting New Jersey then... 😭

[soft raft]

This is gameplay help not #al-general

[wind oxide]

Is posting unrelated outside gameplay pics even allowed here?
want me to ping a mod?

[undone plover]

U should do w.e u want
Getting NJ is also fine if u like her
It is just a slightly less optimal choice

She is still better than all SR BBs

[undone plover]

To ask questions or followups yeah
No need to ping mods if they didnt know

[dark terrace]

is vanguard better than NJ?

[soft raft]

Damage wise no, but utility wise, yes
It's mainly the latter that makes her better than NJ

[red hawk]

hmm the fleet builder doesn't seem to have the collab ships from the event

[wind hazel]

are you using the old one

[undone plover]

Which one are u using?

[red hawk]

it's very possible, do you have a better link I just googled and clicked the first github AL link

[wind hazel]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[red hawk]

yeah I was using x94's

tyty

[wind hazel]

the name is something...

[dark terrace]

I have Vanguard and I was upgrading NJ now and full Vanguard

[karmic pebble]

yall know when we getting essex retro

when is this event, is it this week

[onyx flame]

isnt it with after next maint

[karmic pebble]

so this thursday or next thursday

[boreal wagon]

she will release this thursday but u almost certainly cant finish her until the Wednesday after because of how retro-item events work

[dark terrace]

Between Shinamo and Vanguard, which one should I focus on? (I already have the Vanguard 3 stars)

[balmy skiff]

Z52 done MLB'ed,who's next?

[wind hazel]

depends on what other UR you have

[balmy skiff]

(mystery September's UR,Laff2,Unzen,Traffic-car or Moggerdor)

[royal hull]

Ulrich or Vanguard for the UR Exchange?

[balmy skiff]

UvH already got her LB from 400 pity dupe

[wind hazel]

i dont think he was asking you

[royal hull]

i was asking a question too lol

[river junco]

What URs do you have MLB already besides Z52?

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys, should Unicorn be on the Mob or Boss fleet?

[wind hazel]

mob, always

[river junco]

Mob

[ocean oriole]

Ty

[wind hazel]

maybe not always, there are small case where she can be in boss

but 98% mob

[hallow vale]

I’m going to use Bismarck, and so I’m currently looking to obtain August von Parseval, who should I use for the third slot? I haven’t done the UR exchange yet, should I get UvH? Or Shinano, or NJ?

[dark terrace]

Vanguard/ NJ/ Zwei and I'll take shinano by trade and 9-4.

[wind hazel]

zwei mlb?

[hallow vale]

Isn’t she only obtained from the event? Can I still get her?

[wind hazel]

if you have less than 4 UR bulin i'd just save and wait for September's UR before investing in any of those, except zwei

[wind hazel]

yes, she's limited. that wasn't for you

[hallow vale]

Gotcha

[wind hazel]

as for you, just grab Shinano

[hallow vale]

Because she’s a carrier?

[wind hazel]

because she's one of the 2 that are still relevant

it's either vanguard or shinano if you don't have any of the perma UR

the rest aren't as useful as these 2

[hallow vale]

Sounds good

[brazen lotus]

Vh armor plating from the core data shop doesn't stack with other damage reduction % right?

[hallow vale]

Two battleships and one carrier or vice versa?

[hollow gust]

Usually two carriers and a battleship is used for campaign . But if your BBs are just better no reason not to use 2 BBs

[hallow vale]

Cool thanks

[gilded carbon]

When i wanted to start Shimanto, i noticed a glaring Lack of lvled Sakura Vanguard.

Wich ones can be utilized best for that?

Aka, i will build another one instead first

[wind hazel]

invest in kazagumo, +takao shima i guess

maybe not takao

if you got spare gold bulin then take watarase too

[gilded carbon]

Kazagumo i saw on tier-lists, yeah

[wind hazel]

otherwise takao kaza shima, just for grinding anyway

kazagumo is the highlight here

[gilded carbon]

Yeah, likely for 12-4 or Event-grind that also gives some exp

[gilded carbon]

Yeah... My Sakura-dorm isnt too well stocked with Kansen

Thanks for the pointer

[agile patrol]

hi. how do I get more ironblood tech points?

[eternal basalt]

Get Ironblood ship, MLB and 120 them

[robust nymph]

this setup ok for agir?

[novel solstice]

Acquire, max limit break, and lvl 120 some ironblood ships. Higher rarity and heavier ships give more.

[robust nymph]

also why is it impossible to have general purple plates, 0 of those and thousand of the other purple plates..

[wind hazel]

yes, or double eva

[stark quiver]

you upgrade a lot of auxes

[robust nymph]

double eva would be double of the gold aux?

[gilded carbon]

The Shop for Guild-coins and the Shop for medals should have some. Similar for the pvp-shop

[novel solstice]

Because almost every ship uses 2 auxes; the average ship has one AA and one gun, and while carriers use planes only a few of your ships are carriers so the average ship has less than one plane.

[wind hazel]

any eva 2nd aux

[gilded carbon]

What about Watatsuki, btw. I got told that she is reasonably good too

[robust nymph]

would double hydraulic be fine as well then? even tho i currently am using the other one on sandy, was trying it out

[wind hazel]

some use for w14 but otherwise she has a lot of replacement

[wind hazel]

you can't equip both

[robust nymph]

ah didnt know

[gilded carbon]

Thanks!

[sweet delta]

No, there is nothing simpler than that

[serene cloud]

do i just buy 3 of the red one

[ivory pawn]

Maybe. Anything else you might want to buy with Core Data first? Like cogs, shells, Independence, maybe a plane or two?

[sweet delta]

Depends on what subs you use

[serene cloud]

plan for albacore in merit store

but now these

[sweet delta]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[sweet delta]

Do you have 3 white shells, 2 black shells, whatever independence or DDG you need, and a few beacons or avi manjuus?

Id also take 1 or 2 breguets before submarine stuff

Anyways the flasher Archer Alba can use 3 pressure hulls and preferably 3 rainbow oxytorps but that is expensive and snorkels will be fine too

[serene cloud]

i have 5 white, 2 black independance, 1 homing beacons. i lack the rest

[serene cloud]

ohhhi have rainbow torps

so i want 3 beacons, and 3 manjuus ?

[sweet delta]

Up to 3 beacons and 2 manjuus but the later ones are low priority

[silk helm]

would u recommend getting all the cog chips and arrays? i feel like i have a lot of core data

[serene cloud]

kay ty

[sweet delta]

Like you can just have 2 beacons and 1 manjuu for now, and only buy the 3rd and 2nd if you need them to copy homework

I buy the cogs every month

[stark quiver]

Get all cogs

Idk abt array, can be skippable if you have a lot of ships at 125 already

[serene cloud]

ohhh so i need to buy the cogs monthly as well

[livid thunder]

Hi ! What is the skin projection feature for pr ship

[hollow gust]

Check pins

[turbid shell]

what should i focus on fleet tech? BB rld, CL fp, DD trp?

[robust nymph]

why it doesnt let me use the prints?

[trim path]

need to level kearsage

[robust nymph]

what does that even mean, the ship is in my dock

[eternal basalt]

Bad message, but the gist is she needs to be level 10

[tropic tusk]

how is ships need to be lvl 10 bad

[eternal basalt]

Cause it doesn't really say that

[boreal wagon]

it could be (and often is) interpreted as dev9 needs dev10

[ivory pawn]

“Corresponding ship will be unlocked at level 10” is a horrible way to say “Next level will be unlocked when ship is level 10”.

[boreal wagon]

that too

[tropic tusk]

i guess ur not all wrong

[ivory pawn]

Actually horrible is an understatement, those two sentences don’t mean the same thing at all.

[robust nymph]

got it ty

do i have to change this from 7 to 6 to start getting kears prints?

[silk helm]

like from the catch up event?

[robust nymph]

no in general

im dev20 and need more kears prints but shes from pr6

[civic prairie]

can doing opsi sortie contribute to shipyard exp?

[tropic tusk]

as in ship exp then yes

[civic prairie]

nice tq

[tropic tusk]

i were u do the best ships first then go back for wifu .. but ur game so its up to u

[sweet delta]

You can still get kear prints on pr7 focus but at a much slower rate. Dev 20 is kinda low and switching to pr6 may or may not be a good idea depending on your season 6 and 7 progress and Essex retrofit

[robust nymph]

i'm not asking for advice i'm asking on to how literally get the prints

[tropic tusk]

yes going to 6 will focus

[robust nymph]

oh makes sense, cause i did remember seeing kears even tho focus is pr7.. ill stick to pr7

[robust nymph]

my season 6 progress is 0 cause i came back to the game and immediately put 7, so i only did 1-7

[agile patrol]

what's a shelling gun?

[forest palm]

just a gun that relys on firing, rather than firing fast

bit more nuanced than that, but

[sweet delta]

You can ignore shelling vs barrage guns overall

Use the good gun for the use case, not based on whether a BB allegedly prefers a shelling gun or a barrage gun https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[serene cloud]

this should be better hp than the repair tool kit right

[sweet delta]

The first repair toolkit on a ship provides 1% healing that quickly overtakes the 50 extra HP in 30 seconds

550 HP auxes without any useful effects are only used on DDs as an upgrade to a second toolkit

[pliant dove]

on which date was anni. mail this yr? cannot get anymore, right?

[viscid swift]

the anni hasn't even started yet

[manic spear]

How do I farm levels on a low level ship

[cobalt robin]

Put them in dorm

[novel solstice]

1. Dump xp books on them
2. Stick in dorm
3. Stick in your fleet, ideally hiding behind a decent tank and with a good healer to keep them alive, equip the best survival equipment you have, and then run as many battles as you can.

[cobalt robin]

or use exp books

[manic spear]

Oh I already used all my books lol

[cobalt robin]

You shouldn't do that

[novel solstice]

(survival equipment being things that are +eva for cruisers or backline ships, +hp for destroyers)

[manic spear]

Dorm it is then

[manic spear]

Why not?

[cobalt robin]

try to keep some

It's just better to keep some

[novel solstice]

Some people like to save xp books in case they get a cool ship in an upcoming event that they want to level fast. But if you have a ship you want to level now, I'd say go for it, you can worry about leveling the next ship when you get her.

[manic spear]

oh ok

[eternal basalt]

14 August, the date the event starts

[fickle hollow]

Is Trafalgar used in BB or CV fleets?

[dark hazel]

she buffs lion

[hollow gust]

shes good in every fleet

[forest palm]

Traf w/ Lion though

[hollow gust]

however aurora should be better against light

[boreal wagon]

what if the light armor is someone like wichita meta

[forest palm]

how many enemy Light Armor CA, CB, BB, BBV, BC can you list

[hollow gust]

"should" gives room for benefit of doubt and certain circumstances

[manic spear]

well I see according to the tierlist that hood and nelson are both t1 but which is better (my nelson is around lv 95 and I just got hood from metal shop)

[hollow gust]

hood requires greater investment, nelson only needs retro

[manic spear]

but overall hood is better?

[hollow gust]

they are basically the same performance

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

might wanna give this a look

[hollow gust]

they are obviously new though, no point of checking how good they are engame

[viscid swift]

everything is all relative, they can still compare damage against the various armor types, AoE, etc

[fathom crag]

second floor gives 3 more spots rigth?

[shy oracle]

To rest (earn moral back faster) not to gain xp but yes it is 3 more slots

[blazing pecan]

Which of the three colorado class battleships is the best?

[viscid swift]

Matches the number of slots you have on the first floor

[thin haven]

Is Agir good at pvp?

[empty bloom]

Do the hard modes start to have guaranteed drops for the gold retrofit things at some point? I’ve made it up to 7-x and still none

[viscid swift]

no

[viscid swift]

Maryland for mobbing, WeeVee against bossing if you're buffing other UR BBs

[empty bloom]

Do you ever sleep? You’re always in here

[viscid swift]

nope

[thin haven]

Why?

[viscid swift]

yes, I'm only human after all

[blazing pecan]

Do the drop rates ever go up at least?

[ocean oriole]

Hey guys, when does Enterprise get her other skills?

[viscid swift]

you can ask more in PvP

but heavy armor is a detriment in PvP because of torp heavy comps, she's slow, not that tanky as a whole for PvP, doesn't bring that much to the table among other things

[viscid swift]

if she ever gets a retrofit

[viscid swift]

what drop rates

[fathom crag]

^

wait wrong msg

[blazing pecan]

for retrofit blueprints in hard mode stages

[thin haven]

Ohh l see that's why it got deleted like a minute lmao thanks for the info

[empty bloom]

How the heck I farm for these things then 😩

[viscid swift]

maybe? not enough to notice tangentially though

you wana farm higher stages for more core data anyway

[viscid swift]

asside from 3 starring hard mode stages you just gotta keep grinding

[empty bloom]

I’ve grinded all the ones it gives two for clearing with 3 stars the first time

[viscid swift]

they do occasionally show up in the guild shop

[empty bloom]

Good to know

[eternal basalt]

They drop from finishing secretary stories

[wary skiff]

Should I give Helena or Napoli the quad 152?

[sweet delta]

The effect in damage will be about the same, assuming both ships are maxed

[wary skiff]

Yup both maxed

[random sonnet]

How to get ready for world 9? I followed advice up until to it how should I change my team

[sweet delta]

Try it and you might win

[turbid marsh]

bring out them levels and get them gears too, bash them with them unicorn + sandy/portland or collabs from last week

[red hawk]

is it the worst thing in the world to get a lower grade on a boss fight as you're levelling ships through repeat sorties?

I brought in Sandy and Enty to 9-4 and I can clear it, but sandy is getting dunked every time on auto. im not so worried about morale because I'm swapping

[vale spindle]

the stage gets easier to clear the more you beat it (up to a maximum cap), so once you hit that cap and you are still dying thats when its an issue

the cap is when the threat level of the stage reaches "safe"

alternatively, you can consider farming a different stage in chapter 9 because all of them are basically similar in terms of rewards gained / oil spent (except for ship drops if you care about them)

[red hawk]

ok but im farming a stage and bringing in two non mlb levelling ships

which is why I'm losing a ship to the boss

[vale spindle]

if you have a 2nd fleet that would help out a lot because then you aren't going into the boss out of ammo

you can instead put your leveling ships in the mob fleet and only use the boss fleet to clear the boss

[red hawk]

what is the negative to getting a lower rank and having a ship sink on the last combat?

that's why I'm doing this is to get a 2nd fleet but I need to level/gear vanguard ships

[vale spindle]

morale issues, which you already are aware of
no guaranteed ship drop (which isn't an issue since you aren't farming for ship drops)

thats basically it

[red hawk]

so as long as I'm balancing morale it's not a big problem for a little bit?

[vale spindle]

correct

[red hawk]

ok just wanted to be sure. if it was going to significantly affect my gains I would adjust

[viscid swift]

S rank is +20% XP and a guranteed ship drop from the boss

[vale spindle]

i forgot about the exp gain

[red hawk]

20%xp for just that fight correct?

[vale spindle]

yes

[viscid swift]

yeah but really would not reccomend it

[red hawk]

after this last run I'll stop

[viscid swift]

because it's -10 morale per fight if your ships sinks

that adds up pretty quickly

[red hawk]

yeah she's in dorm and I was just gonna swap her out for helena when I got her a couple levels

so I wasn't worried about morale

I just need to get some levels pumped into my second fleet ships

how much does fielding a second fleet affect oil consumption?

[viscid swift]

it doesn't

[vale spindle]

oil consumed is on a per battle basis

there are (usually) 6 ish fights per stage, so each fight consumes oil to give you a total oil consumed for the stage

since chapter 9 has a fuel cost limit, there is a hard limit of max oil consumed per fight

[red hawk]

yeah morale seems to be my limiter rn only having one fleet

even swapping around dorm

[stuck dragon]

newish player here (chapter 6 commander level 32) what war archive should i prio for good gear at this stage?

[manic spear]

Any ideas to improve fleet?

[hollow gust]

keep leveling

[hoary relic]

u can get them from research lab........there are no worthy gears in war archive to waste ur oil for, stick to the newbie guide and rush to w9 for oil cap for farming efficiency

[ocean shuttle]

Any way to turn off the slow down and portrait pop ups when using BB/CV vollies/sorties?

Can see anything between that and the planes in c15

[hollow gust]

nah

[ocean shuttle]

Damn. Ty

[random sonnet]

Need help for a fleet for operation siren

Wait nvm im dumb found the guide

[stark quiver]

What guide

[wraith knoll]

gang when is the 7th anni event coming

[viscid swift]

this Thursday

[wraith knoll]

betttt

[rapid shard]

How does the "lethel/safe" work? ive 3 stared 10-1/3 and they still are showing as lethel. Is it just related to fleet lvl average or do i have to full clear the entire world stage?

[sweet delta]

Defeat the boss after 100%. Nothing to do with 3 star

[rapid shard]

Gotcha. im struggling a bit with 10-4 right now strictly on the mob side the red BB mobs are nuking my flag ship. Is there anyway to mitigate them targeting flag ship?

[sweet delta]

You can instead give her a 🧯 to reduce the damage taken

Another option is to use two BBs with Unicorn in flag, but that assumes you have two high level good BBs plus a third one for the boss

[rapid shard]

This is current mob setup. i know lvls are a bit on the lower side but honestly having no issues other than ulrich getting nuked

[zenith heron]

she isn't MLB yet, and prefers on the off flag position

[forest palm]

4 star Ulrich, and Indianapolis those are a choice...

[rapid shard]

I do have georgia and warspite i could swap taihou out for. and Indy has been doing pretty solid she never really dies and puts out pretty solid dmg currently

i know shes not S tier but its been working out.

[sweet delta]

Big doubt on Indianapolis dmg, probably does less than half of harbin

[rapid shard]

Harbin does around 28-30k each stage and indy is doing 20-22k on avg

[sweet delta]

Your problem still is that you have like no MLB BBs besides Massachusetts and that is an automatic chapter 10-11 fail unless you are extremely over leveled

[viscid swift]

I think that says more about gearing than anything else

[sweet delta]

You can start by leveling up another purple BB like Nelson/Maryland to replace those shiny URs

[rapid shard]

Gear is a major lack atm. Georgia is dev30 and warpsite is MLB as well

[sweet delta]

Ok then use Georgia in one and Massachusetts (not gold augment) in the other

[rapid shard]

Whats wrong with mass gold aug?

NJ mass and enty are mainfleet for boss fleet atm

[viscid swift]

your main gun ammunition is changed to AP no matter what gun you have equipped

[sweet delta]

And chapter 10 is full of light armor enemies that her super heavy AP is bad against

[zenith heron]

she becomes too limited to medium/heavy armor enemies only

[rapid shard]

Gotcha ill double check to see if its on her. Is it useful on her at 13 up when heavy becomes relevant?

[viscid swift]

hopefully she'll have been replaced by then

[zenith heron]

she can be useful, but by the time you do World 13 and above, she's shelved

[rugged dagger]

can oscar's preemptive salvo stack with sub hunting? i notice it never triggers on a node that's been hunted, but i have noticed it can trigger on a node, and then i can hunt that node too

[vale spindle]

it can stack yes

[short matrix]

Which equipment is best for Tempests ships? I know they tend to be worse than subs but eh

[vale spindle]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[vale spindle]

this isnt updated with recent collab aux stuff but that doesnt really change much anyways

[soft raft]

they have basically somewhere between aboslutely nothing and jack shit for weapons

(They're hardlocked from using like 99% of the gear in the game)

[grizzled sundial]

Special attack from generic augment item all have same cool down ?

[empty bloom]

Best 3 out of these?

[short matrix]

Thanks

Still sad Royal Fortune has no special augment

[viscid swift]

U-101 with U-96 from the medal shop and U-37 from the war archives

though I doubt you're in a position to focus on subs

[rain vine]

3d dorm item

[vernal osprey]

Is there like a countdown to when maintenance is happening?

[soft raft]

It's at the usual day of the week and time
or in other words, <t:1755154800:f>

[stark quiver]

what is la9's payload travel time

[granite sand]

So I've been told that the purple Helldiver clears the golden Destroyer...but what about that XSB3C-2?

[viscid swift]

it's a Helldiver with 20 more AVI stat bonus

not joking

[granite sand]

...that's it?

[viscid swift]

yep

[sweet delta]

It's also 0.03s slower ong

0.02

[granite sand]

Good news, those changes bumped up my damage from 275 to 295

Still can't seem to crack the 300 range wtf

[viscid swift]

what

[granite sand]

Compiler

[viscid swift]

oh yeah I remember now

[stark quiver]

is kaza or sirius better against strength

[viscid swift]

if you wanna just sort of gurantee yourself 300 even with a sub optimal comp

just build a good sub fleet and that'll pretty much gurantee you 300 points

[left parrot]

If gumo survives then I would say shes better

[supple ferry]

does shinano herself counts for the sakura ship requirement?

[left parrot]

Yes

[stark quiver]

even factoring in the +10% hit rate for cvs?

[left parrot]

Yes, it also helps that kazagumo generally does a little more damage though thats not super important. Your mileage may vary

Both work and Sirius is pretty awesome since she doesn’t have to be afloat for the buff to work, so you can just make her be in tank position

[granite sand]

Okay, I might be asking for something stupid here...I know that faction fleets suck but...if I had to put together an all-IB fleet...

[viscid swift]

for what exactly?

[granite sand]

actually, nvm - I wouldn't want to use an all-IB fleet for anything but farming or clearing (most of) OpSi

[left parrot]

I think you could cook up a decent light armor boss fleet with only ib. Medium too

[soft raft]

"Decent" is doing way too much lifting than it's supposed to be doing there

or more specifically, AvP would be carrying the comp since she has afreeze

[wind oxide]

Is destiny a good talent? Should I choose it?

[stark quiver]

what are the other options
and what cat

[wind oxide]

Ace helmsman, loading rookie, sonar rookie
Bishamaru

[soft raft]

sounds ass

[stark quiver]

sounds like a bad cat
but id take the +rld if you dont already have more reload

[wind oxide]

The reload are for BM,AR,AE,IX tho

[soft raft]

that's a whole lotta dogshit right there

[stark quiver]

bricked 💀
destiny then, or wait until daily reset to reroll

what do you already have on the cat

[wind oxide]

Hemslmen adept, anti air, aviation

[stark quiver]

uhh destiny seems to the best you can do

[wind oxide]

[soft raft]

oof that's rough

[wind oxide]

How about sonar rookie?

Van +4 asw

[soft raft]

Meh

[stark quiver]

what are you gonna do with +4 asw realistically tho

[sweet delta]

The cat was bricked at level 1

[wind oxide]

Still haven't cleared part of W14

[left parrot]

the +4 asw is going to come in clutch in w15 TRUST

[stark quiver]

uni with gannet + eld is enough

[left parrot]

yeah nah get a new cat though 💀

if its a high level you can at least feed it to a better cat and get most of the xp

[wind oxide]

♿

[stark quiver]

is it a good idea to +13 a second la9

[wind hazel]

yes

[left parrot]

probably want around 4 of them tbh

[stark quiver]

ok bet
i was gonna use platez for wyvern but

[wind hazel]

💀

[left parrot]

Me personally, I would not upgrade wyvern past 10

[wind hazel]

filthy gloM pvp user

[stark quiver]

it was supposed to be for nakh

[wind hazel]

that def suck, gloM is stronger

[left parrot]

I promise that the la9 is going to be a much bigger upgrade

[stark quiver]

well yes

[stark quiver]

im poor and dont have oath
maybe its time to put my 10k gems to use

[left parrot]

put your 10k gems to use by deposting them directly into my account

[wind oxide]

[boreal fiber]

Hi, Can series be changed?

[stark quiver]

no

but just convert them into protocore

[boreal fiber]

And is it always series 4? I'm confused if it ever changes or am I just imagining it?

[viscid swift]

from the PR Missions? they change depending on the series of missions you do

[stark quiver]

+13ing a la9 made 0 difference to my one strike adventure
amazingm absolute amazing

[forest palm]

unsurprising

[arctic snow]

is it worth buying out gibraltar shop in opsi (the META one) or do I just save tokens to get more vouchers at reset? i already cleared out the other 3 shops

[wind hazel]

depends if you wanna enhance every meta ship or not

having more vouchers also become useless at one point because there's only so many things that you needed to buy

[gaunt mauve]

how to get more points

[viscid swift]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by mrlar

[arctic snow]

thats fair, i'm probably gonna save until i can get enough vouchers to buy all the important stuff in exchange shop and then spend the rest in gibraltar then

[worthy iris]

Now no need blue printed to upgrade?

[viscid swift]

you don't for the older PR seasons nor should you getting PR1 prints means not getting prints for ships of other, betters seasons and ones that can't be coined

also limit yourself to 10-15 BPs a day

it gets prohibitively expensive after that

[worthy iris]

This one for discount?

[viscid swift]

yeah

it resets daily

[viscid swift]

in fact you might wanna give that a read
https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus

[worthy iris]

Alright thank you

[wanton smelt]

Between CV fleet and BB fleet, which one is better for each armor type? For end game mode like meta fight.

[forest palm]

there is no direct answer to this

really too many variables, and mixed hull main fleets becoming more and more prevalent, on top of it being completely dependent on what you're fighting and not just armor type

[viscid swift]

pretty much none of the best fleets are monohull these days

they're all mixed fleets

[forest palm]

at the top end it kind of doesn't matter, just use what works

[viscid swift]

if you wanna get an idea, might wanna give this a read
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[warped tartan]

Guys! Which of these units should I use? Recommend me please!

[viscid swift]

where are you in the main campaign?

[vale spindle]

saint louis with augment

[warped tartan]

Ch10

[viscid swift]

what elites have you got to work with?

[warped tartan]

Elites?

[viscid swift]

yes elites

you're not making 2 fleets with just SRs without waiting a few months to get enough bullins

[warped tartan]

This are my elites

[viscid swift]

right, the first thing you're gonna do is go to the Guild Shop and get Unicorn

[warped tartan]

I already got MLB unicorn

[viscid swift]

not showing up in the images for whatever reason but details

[warped tartan]

Wait, I'll upload the ships I'm currently using

[viscid swift]

yeah

that would have been useful to know

[stark quiver]

[warped tartan]

So I don't need to upgrade anymore ships?

[viscid swift]

Mob: Hood, Unicorn retrofit, Glorious META, Saint Louis, Z23, Otto
Boss: Bismarck Zwei, Warspite, Enterprise, Takao, Helena, San Diego

[sweet delta]

if takao isn't augmented then use eugen

[warped tartan]

So no replacements at the moment?

[wind oxide]

How it feels to not have lion ♿

[craggy sorrel]

when voltage rising event rerun?

[forest palm]

we don't know

[warped tartan]

The next event had no UR right?

[viscid swift]

Essex retrofit

[warped tartan]

Well, got no Essex, so it's a pass for me

But how strong is she after retro?

[viscid swift]

we don't know

and she'll be on the SR selector for the EN Anni

[warped tartan]

Who else in the selector? And is the selector free?

[stark quiver]

check live stream , yes

[viscid swift]

it is free

[stark quiver]

you dont need to check it

[granite sand]

isn't warspite kai back because of her augment?

[viscid swift]

what

[stark quiver]

shes now UR level, if you ,look past the factt shes the very bottom on UR bbs

[hollow gust]

I won't call equal to really old UR BBs back

[warped tartan]

Essex is the only option here cuz of her retro is it? Or nah?

[stark quiver]

most likely
VV isnt bad either

[warped tartan]

Have VV already

[stark quiver]

then yea essex seems to be the best option

[gilded carbon]

Oh dear. I need to lvl mine for Retro then

[lament tree]

whens my next chance to get zewi?

[viscid swift]

When she gets added to the perma pool next year

[lament tree]

[rain haven]

Any recommendations what to get fron this?

[left parrot]

Hey random question, but has anyone ever gotten 302 points instead of 301 from compiler?

It happened to me like 2 months ago and I forgot about it until now

[ocean oriole]

Hi guys can I get some help?

I just reached stage 10 & I got completely walled by the boss. He beat my best team & my other team pretty handily.

Can I get some advice on what I should do now?

[left parrot]

May I see the fleet

[civic prairie]

Shinano over nj right?

[left parrot]

Yes

[ocean oriole]

Sure.

I think team one is pretty good. Team two needs a lot of work or needs to be replaced.

What should I work on right now?

I know team two is kind of scraps, but I don't have much to work with right now lol

I'm pretty new.

[left parrot]

Ok to start with, thats a lot of gold ships. It looks like most of them aren’t max limit break?

[ocean oriole]

Yeah not all of them are MLB yet & some of them I won't be.

I'd rather invest in other ships than the ones on team two.

[left parrot]

That is an issue, but another one is your positioning honestly

Helena is too squishy to be in the front for example

If you have any lower rarity units that are max limit broken, they would be a better pick than no mlb golds

[lament tree]

Can someone help me make a mob team and boss team rq for W10 to W13? My main fleet is strong but running out of ammo for the boss

[pseudo salmon]

Who gets to have the skyraider? Enty or yk2

[ocean oriole]

I wish I had more MLB units, but the ones that were in those teams were the only ones that were MLB.

Hey guys quick question. This hasn't happened yet until now for me.

So what happens when you get a SR ship that you already have & MLB'd? Can I do anything with it? 😭

I already have her MLB'd.

[eternal basalt]

Scrap them

[meager tiger]

scrap, some people keep copies so they can set them all as secretary and show off all their skins but if u dont care for duca then just scrap

[fierce jackal]

Is Belfast any good? Just got her off a 1x pull for my daily

[ocean oriole]

Damn that makes me a little sad... 😓

[civic prairie]

Even if scraped,they still contribute to tech point?

[south sequoia]

no

Once u get a ship and all of their tech bonuses from the original copy thats permanent and you cant get more ever

Otherwise we would be stacking langleys with cv rld tech

[civic prairie]

Ah i understand

[ocean oriole]

Is it worth scraping or just keep a extra Duca?