gameplay-help

[chrome frigate]

wow i didnt even notice during mine i just happened to liked using ironblood at the time so i lucked out XD

[cobalt robin]

I already have her but wtv

[cobalt robin]

I was probably using zwei and Graf back then lmao

[chrome frigate]

these were who i was using during agir still am funnily enough

[fallen jay]

Well I guess my only choice is Jade as she and Scharnhorst are the only two ironboood mains I have.

[rain vine]

you shouldnt need unicorn for 12-1 farming
but by the looks of it, you dont really have a choice

[cobalt robin]

preferably without uni but if you have to use her, zwei, uni, jade

[rain vine]

then use zwei, jade, and scharnhorst and farm 12-1

[cobalt robin]

without uni you don't have any other options lol

[fallen jay]

I’ll just keep using these ones in my vanguard as well so they’re stronger when I grind for CDC2 exp as well. Once it’s unlocked…

[rain vine]

just bump up levels on scharnhorst and mlb

[fallen jay]

Schrnhorst isn’t strong enough

[rain vine]

do you have 12-1 on safe?

[fallen jay]

4 levels away from 70

[fallen jay]

No it’s still lethal.

[stark quiver]

i mean.... use the only 3 IB main fleets you have

[fallen jay]

Don’t I need Uni in mob fleet for survival?

[stark quiver]

unless you have skill issue, no
12-1 is ez

[cobalt robin]

You shouldn't need her

[stark quiver]

just get some levels

[fallen jay]

Alright working on it now.

[timber crow]

guyss how can i get t3 carrier blueprints, i need 5 to retrofit uni

[stark quiver]

check guild shoppo
do hard mode X-4 stages

[cobalt robin]

Idk if this is unlucky or lucky...

[fallen jay]

Whelp I’m gonna need unicorn in the fleet until this zone is safe…my main fleet got wiped on 12-1

[stark quiver]

shit tier luck

[cobalt robin]

I hate this bs

[knotty dome]

what is the anti heavy loadout for implac shinano amagiCV? i have up to 5 LA-9

is it still this?

[sweet delta]

This is still one optimal load out

You cannot use more la9

[tall locust]

[cobalt robin]

[knotty dome]

what do you mean by "one" optimal load out? is there a second that is equally optimal?

[stark quiver]

there are a lot of optimal loadouts
which just consists of mixing and matching TBs

[sweet delta]

There are faster syncs

Also if you have max reload and oath, you could 4 strike in meta showdown, which is more damage in a vacuum without boss skills

Using stuff like suisei 12a and lots of saiuns

[knotty dome]

no oaths unfortunately

do the faster syncs have less damage per strike?

[stark quiver]

they use less damagae planes

but are faster, so that extra 4th strike puts it over the 3 strikes from a normal comp

[forest palm]

talkin about Saiun Kai?

[knotty dome]

ok, thanks

[cobalt robin]

This has to be lottery tier luck

AGAIN HOWWW

[sweet delta]

#trophy-room

[cobalt robin]

[verbal plinth]

If your banking on cat ap your going to have a bad time

[cobalt robin]

I'm not hoping for 4 gold ap boxes but 2 akashis in the span of barely 30 minutes both with nothing is crazy

[boreal wagon]

you are just putting your hopes way too high and patience way too low

[stark quiver]

tfw 2000 ap and no akashit:

[cobalt robin]

I had no expectations and somehow the result went way below that

[cobalt robin]

I've had that and now I get 2 akashis this quickly and both with nothing

[hushed sorrel]

sounds to me like you need to oath her. maybe she will show you a bit of love

[cobalt robin]

NEVER

[hoary relic]

how many champy gun should i +13?

[undone plover]

Traditionally we say 3
But u better do 1-2 flandre instead
And if u are a long term min maxer and have focus on 8 u can even do 1 champy 1 flan and stop

[forest palm]

you end up with multiple BB guns @ + 13 due to timing, among other things

[hoary relic]

i thought champy is better than flandre

[forest palm]

it fires faster so it helps slower BBs

ever so faster

[hoary relic]

0.54s faster mhm

i just upgraded 1 champy to 13 maybe i'd get 1 flandre to 13

[forest palm]

I have like 3x 406/50, 2x 380 mle 1935, and 2x MK-1 at +13 these things kind of just happen lol

it honestly depends on what syncs the best for your fleet

[undone plover]

That is fine for a boomer but a new player shouldn’t do 3 champy then more flandre
Just do 1 and 1 that is fine yeah

[forest palm]

would a new player even utilize a 380 mle 1935? and if it's just to fire fast may as well just forget the 406/50 altogether

[hoary relic]

[forest palm]

like what is the obession with the 380 mle 1935?

[cobalt robin]

lion gun all the way

[forest palm]

and ghosted

well I'm sure someone could explain

[cobalt rapids]

having flan besides champy gives you better syncing options across ur bbs
firing faster helps new players get around arbi shields or potentially even 4 strike in showdowns

[forest palm]

huh...

well then if it's for the sake of firing faster why even bother with the 406/50 then

jaming and so on?

[cobalt rapids]

because its good to have a timing tool + buying 75 prints from a single season takes longer than splitting them from 3 and 6

[undone plover]

sry didnt mean to ghost
bb guns are not like CV planes
u dont need different timings unless u are min/maxing even the tiniest dmg diff due to buff timings or zwei black hole
so having 3 max is enough most of the time
especially now that we have raffa gun and lion gun and meck gun
the more plates u can save the better
that is why it should be max 3 for champy/flan/soyuz guns imo
and u can even go down to 2 if u are on pr8 focus and expect a better champy soon

champy + flan is just about being able to buy prints faster and yes having a slight timing difference is a nice bonus

[hoary relic]

[slim hinge]

Do you still get points in OpSi battle when you get disconnected while assisting another player?

[forest palm]

sadly no, if you get disconnected during support fight it get thrown out attempt and all

[slim hinge]

Damn. The game froze while in the middle of the battle.

[cobalt rapids]

at most u lost 75 sync pts

[fathom crag]

how important is the gear stuff. havent rly cared abt so far

[cobalt rapids]

its important if u care about later content
but it also makes ur life easier in easy content

[fathom crag]

js started lk a months ago so. anyways is there a gear guide or smth

[hoary relic]

[cobalt rapids]

/equip the one in the compendium

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[hoary relic]

should i craft any twin 457?

or just save for another 10rai

[cobalt rapids]

for what

[hoary relic]

mobbing ig

[cobalt rapids]

in a vacuum all i can say is that 457 is good for mobbing

and tenrai is good everywhere

[robust nymph]

how worth is it crafting purple augments for ships that dont have their own augment?

is the damage increase huge or not really

[hoary relic]

[cobalt rapids]

not at all
its the last thing u do when u can comfortably afford to +10 all ur gears and ure done with important unique augments

[robust nymph]

okay thanks, ill focus on other unique augments

[cobalt robin]

me who crafted purple augments 😔✌🏻

[hoary relic]

aint those purp augments are cheap?:

we also can upgrade a blue to purp

which would save some mat

[robust nymph]

dunno 4 rocks doesnt seem very cheap to me especially if its not a big increase

[hoary relic]

well yes it is quite expensive for newbies

[stark quiver]

you are correct
prioritize unique augs

why do i only have 64

[hoary relic]

[cobalt rapids]

autoselects tends to all in on gold

[robust nymph]

518 rocks,,

[stark quiver]

how many do you have umanoko
blu purp and gold

[cobalt rapids]

double urs

[stark quiver]

amazing

[hoary relic]

[stark quiver]

tbf i cant be bothered with unequipping and equipping augs , so i just craft new ones LOL

[cobalt rapids]

tbf i also crafted like 2 rows of each purple aug because im lazy but players who aim to get most of the gold augs for collection purposes should not do this

[cobalt robin]

[stark quiver]

"follow what i say but not what i do"

[hoary relic]

[robust nymph]

how low should i go for this girl

im at my 4th lila..

[cobalt rapids]

shes bad and gives no tech but otherwise her value is ofc subjective considering u may never see her again

[robust nymph]

she cute with cute skin

also no tech cause its event ship?

[cobalt rapids]

cause collab

[hoary relic]

next UR banner would be in sep right?

[robust nymph]

eh fair.. i was done with this event 100+ cubes ago if it wasnt for her

[cobalt rapids]

JP anni with expected UR banner is end sep yes

[stark quiver]

probably

[stark quiver]

depends how much you want her

[robust nymph]

ima just gonna build 3 a day and it is what it is

[cobalt robin]

I also need her...

[cobalt rapids]

good luck

[cobalt robin]

done 70 builds for her already

[hoary relic]

when will medal shop sell pr8 blank DR?

[stark quiver]

70 lol

[robust nymph]

on the bright side i got these 2 while randomly pulling, but yeah just going 3 a day at this point cause i dont want to miss out on next events

[stark quiver]

albion is good for tech
+2 cv hit on obtain and avi on mlb

[cobalt robin]

In total I've done 290 pulls for the collabs

[robust nymph]

got 2 of her actually lol

[cobalt robin]

I got fucking isla 6 times

[cobalt rapids]

this isnt saltmines 😭

[hoary relic]

is NJ still good to exchange from perm pool?

[cobalt robin]

I'm about to commit arson

[hoary relic]

or vang is a better option?

[stark quiver]

do you have vanguard and shinano both obtained and MLB

[cobalt rapids]

shes low prio

[robust nymph]

should i care about these? they require to lb ships i would never

[cobalt rapids]

vanguard is better yes

[stark quiver]

beaver tag good

[cobalt robin]

Beaver badge definitely

[hoary relic]

erm im planning to exchange for vang for my bossing fleet while im grinding bp for ply and meck

[sweet delta]

Gems good

[hoary relic]

and my shinano still at 3/6 star

[robust nymph]

whats it for>

[hoary relic]

she has been liked that for 5 months

[cobalt rapids]

2nd eva aux for cruisers

[stark quiver]

read its description

[stark quiver]

get a shinano copy

[cobalt robin]

Wash machine+ beaver is best tank aux equip

[robust nymph]

it increases speed but whats speed

[stark quiver]

speed is speed
speed is fast
fast is dodge attacks more

[cobalt robin]

Movement speed

[cobalt rapids]

fast is also run into attacks more
or run out of pew range more

[robust nymph]

so is fast good

[cobalt rapids]

for all intents and purposes in pve u care about the stats it provides

[stark quiver]

you win some you lost some

[cobalt robin]

Fast is cool plus it gives a lot of eva

[hoary relic]

but i dont use shinano for now

my bossing fleet rn is lion and bis2

[stark quiver]

what are you going to do with a 0lb vanguard dupe

[hoary relic]

so ig vang would work

[cobalt robin]

vanguard 0lb is better than lion mlb trust

[hoary relic]

i have enough spec core to mlb her

[cobalt rapids]

EX ofc

[cobalt robin]

Do you have like 30k spec cores? If not then don't use bullins on perma urs

[hoary relic]

about 20k

[cobalt robin]

and no other event ur left to mlb?

[hoary relic]

yep

all of my URs are mlb except shinano

[cobalt robin]

then I would use bullins on vang

[hoary relic]

[glossy granite]

Do i use them or do i save?

[hoary relic]

arent z52 and traf are good for bossing?

[cobalt rapids]

you can get more till jp anni

[glossy granite]

They are great but im always convinced to mlb last lol

[hoary relic]

why that then, isnt that u should prioritize them if they are good?

[glossy granite]

Cuz they vanguards

[hoary relic]

isnt traf is a good debuffer?

[glossy granite]

Idk man

[hoary relic]

anyways u only use SR ships? cuz ur DRs/URs are just

it seems like u dont even care to upgrade them

[ivory pawn]

My vote's to use 'em. Unless surprise UR this month, you should be able to get enough to MLB the next UR before they run.

[glossy granite]

Its not easy to get Ur bullins 😭

[hoary relic]

wdym isnt ez? isnt that we can get 2.5 bulins per month now?

[glossy granite]

I mean its easy but you cant get more than like 2 a month

[hoary relic]

erm

but at least get them to lv120 , that isnt hard right?

[cobalt rapids]

z52 - best all arounder, usefull everywhere
traff - good for ST content less so for campaign but still solid
fritz - great dmg cv, great for campaign great for ST
i would just go with z52 into fritz unless ure trying to play for showdown or something

and keep exchanging shinano dupes

[glossy granite]

Why didnt you say so from beginning, my coins go to research so i dont often lb levels

[cobalt rapids]

if u had haku or amagi she couldve potentially been a prio but rn not rly

[hoary relic]

u do DR coins up?

[undone zinc]

How much damage do ships on fire recieve?

[glossy granite]

That aswell recently cuz of drake

[hoary relic]

why would u use drake

isnt she considered quite bad compared to others?

[undone zinc]

So complicated .. why can't it be like in WoWs?!

[glossy granite]

For the dr3 mission thing

[hoary relic]

[cobalt rapids]

it can be less complicated
just go to challenge mode and burn the target and look how much u deal with the dot

[undone zinc]

Challenge mode?

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt have to be challenge mode but that stage is easy to test because no oil to enter no moral and no limited attempts

[hoary relic]

anyways the old handbook is gone ?

[glossy granite]

I would have done hakuryuu if my sakura tech wasnt absolutely shocking lol, i have like over 1K in every main but around 580 sakura

Ik you can get sakura anywhere but I have never really played a Sakura event except for Shinano when she came out

[hoary relic]

oh so im not alone i have over 1k for other but only like 500 for sakura

[hushed sorrel]

kaga and akagi should be sakura?! should be grindable

[glossy granite]

I need to mlb and lvl them all which is the problem but i should have enough ships

[hushed sorrel]

getting new ones also gives fleet tech

[cobalt rapids]

anyway if ure active till JP anni + during it u can get 9 more bulins + the milestone one so its u should have enough for z52 fritz and new JP anni UR and shinano if that one changes anything

[glossy granite]

I will be playing for a while dw, im a 2020 player but i did absolutely fuck all until late dec 2024

[cobalt rapids]

i see

[hoary relic]

do we have any news about next UR rerun banner?

[glossy granite]

Next rerun should be unzen i think

for UR

[hoary relic]

what is unzen's role ?

[glossy granite]

All i know is i need her

[hoary relic]

[glossy granite]

Op CA

[hoary relic]

since we cant craft her gun, can we get her gun in her rerun banner?

[glossy granite]

Is it a shop gun?

[stark quiver]

Damage

[hushed sorrel]

if it was buyable with event points than it will be available in the rerun too

[glossy granite]

Then it should be available again

But im cooked chat, i missed out on Musashi rerun and her gun and everything wtf do i do

[stark quiver]

What were you gonna do with her gun

[hoary relic]

mushy gun is bad isnt it?

high reload time made it hard to sync

[glossy granite]

Didnt you need mushy gun on her for her to be good

[stark quiver]

No
Get gun makes her bad

[ivory pawn]

She'll be added to the standard URs soon enough, and her gun is mid anyways so no loss.

[glossy granite]

Or was it a diff IJN gun

[ivory pawn]

She usually uses Twin 406 (purple), or Daisen/Izumo guns from Research.

[stark quiver]

Pick between daisen and Izumo gun for heavy/med
don’t use mussshi against light

[glossy granite]

Have to wait for her perma then

[hushed sorrel]

they will be probably newer and better ur ships till she is perma

[glossy granite]

Im cooked anywyas

[eternal grove]

when wil z52 event rerun?

[hoary relic]

isnt that bis2 lion and alsace meck are better than mush now?

[glossy granite]

By the time i catch up with the Research, guns and ships and everything, i will have a wife and 3 kids by then

[hushed sorrel]

just enjoy the en-anni and it will work out one way or another

[hushed sorrel]

yes 1 oath and 3 child-ships. is doable

more likely than doing all research as you said

[glossy granite]

Yea your right only in game as if i have any play 🔥

[stark quiver]

Like 1.2 years from now

[hoary relic]

prabably dec 2026

z52 was released on dec 19 2024 so uhh

i guess it would take 2 years to her rerun

[stark quiver]

Wouldn’t that mean there will be a new UR on December

Like the past years

[hoary relic]

it could be i guess

[hushed sorrel]

we will see. there is no "for sure"

[hoary relic]

it is true that we have a new UR on ever Dec

[stark quiver]

No

[hoary relic]

let me check the wiki again

[stark quiver]

Because it could change anytime
But all the past decembers had new URs

[hoary relic]

ye like for 5 years in a row iirc

who was in the building list? Z52 or frizt?

cuz they both have the same release date

[stark quiver]

Z52 was a shopUR

[hoary relic]

like traf?

[stark quiver]

Yes

[hoary relic]

how about laffey 2, it is near 2 years since guam banner

[stark quiver]

All UR dds not called shima are shop URs

[stark quiver]

I’m gonna a put it’s rerun at around Jan 2026

[hoary relic]

mhm

probably after the new UR banner in dec if it is the same like past years?

[stark quiver]

Idk about unzen tho
She could be this year

[hoary relic]

probably she would

[dark terrace]

hello

[eternal grove]

sad. thought z52 was bad and didnt farm back then...

[dark terrace]

a fleet of (Enter/ New/ Uni.(ret)/Balt/ Hele(ret) and Alan good or not?

[turbid marsh]

who give you that thought?

[viscid swift]

you should be looking for a 2nd fleet right now more than anything else

[hollow gust]

She was practically free

[eternal grove]

was first weeks after returned from 5y retirement and had no plan of anything at that time

[dark terrace]

@viscid swiftok

[hollow gust]

Lmao Santa Cok

[turbid marsh]

Yikes but it’s okay, that’s just end game content stuff. As long as not aiming for one shot stuff u should do fine.

[dark terrace]

any suggestions for 2 fleet?

[hollow gust]

Post what you have

[soft raft]

Also say what content you're doing

[rapid shard]

For the war archives is there any specific one worth doing asap?

[soft raft]

Divergent Chessboard for Iron Blood tech points

[rapid shard]

They pretty easy to clear out?

[soft raft]

Depends on if your fleet is good enough

[rapid shard]

One fleet at 100-95 and second at 90-80

[soft raft]

That should be pretty easy then

[arctic snow]

can someone help me understand something about the cats?

after a LONG time i finally decided to try making good use of it, os i was looking at the cat guide in the wiki since i saw someone recommending it

and its saws something on the lines of 'you can determine how good the cat is considering the talents and ammount of points it comes with' for example a good cat coming with 3+ talent points and at least a unique talent

my question is if the unique talents should be considered towards the total talent points, and if it does, if it counts as ' 1 ', since you cant upgrade it

so basically, how good this staff cv cat really is?

[worldly pewter]

unique talents can be upgraded ?

[arctic snow]

fell free to ping me, i might not see it otherwise

[arctic snow]

i said, since you can't upgrade it

[viscid swift]

Cats are mainly about talents

So basically you want your cat to start with as many good talents as possible to save coins and headache on rerolling into your ideal set of talents

So your Bismaharu there is actually pretty decent and one I would consider rerolling

[arctic snow]

oh yeah, forgot to ask about that, so when you reroll it keeps the basic it comes with right? so you can gamble on good talents appearing again

[viscid swift]

yes

[arctic snow]

ic, just one more thing, that one i got i should consider as coming with 3 talent points worth right? and the max is 4 right? as far as i know, since i dont have any with more that 4 at least

[viscid swift]

yes

[arctic snow]

ok, thanks

wait, another question. do elite and SSR cats got different total talent points?

[viscid swift]

yes

[arctic snow]

thanks again, thats all i had to ask

[sweet delta]

Harder than the materials stages of the two current events

[urban moth]

Do I actually have to murder all 11 fleets

[sweet delta]

Boss spawns after 7 mobs, but why don't you bring a second fleet for some ACV

[urban moth]

thank fuck, I was kinda scared considering Ryza S stage
Don't have enough ship levels for second fleet (since it asks for 101 average level)

[sweet delta]

avg level

[hallow vale]

Right now, what’s the best ship in the Meta shop?

[sweet delta]

All of them are bad for usage. Some of them give good tech at level 120

[hallow vale]

As a newer player, then

[sweet delta]

Not something a new player should be concerned about

[hallow vale]

But I have the currency?

[sweet delta]

But they're bad

[hallow vale]

All of them?

[sweet delta]

Yes all of them

Save your currency for when you start to do tech

Or you can pre buy them if you want since meta ships don't use dock space

[hallow vale]

Explain tech. That’s the gear, right?

[sweet delta]

Fusou hiyou junyou yamashiro have good 120 tech

[viscid swift]

no, it's the perma stat bonus given when a ship reaches level 120(if they give tech)

[sweet delta]

When you get fusou or fusou meta to level 120, all of your MLB BBs and BCs and BBVs gain +1 RLD stat

[hallow vale]

Major League Baseball…?

[viscid swift]

max limit break

[hallow vale]

Ah. I was only a little bit off

[viscid swift]

only a little

[hardy creek]

Which one is better between the two?

[soft raft]

the one on the left is more acessible as a whole
iirc there's not really much of a diff between the two that's noticeable

[hardy creek]

Ah alright

[sweet delta]

There is a big difference, the left one is better for most purposes

[thorn tartan]

where do i find the build timers for the tower event?

[forest palm]

Wiki or the datamine pages pinned

[brazen lotus]

Same weapon but the gold does more for your barrages

5% less dmg for 25% speed and the extra fp boosts barrage dmg too right

[sweet delta]

Wrong

well FP does boost barrage dmg too, but 20 FP is only like 2% damage for BBs

and it's not 5% less dmg, it's 5% less DPS. DPS is kinda useless for BB guns because everything depends on the number of salvos she does

Also you're comparing +13 odin gun to +11 mk6 which is just not a good investment. Better compare them at +10

[brazen lotus]

Ah mb

[sweet delta]

mk6 does 56% more damage per salvo, while odin gun is 31% faster. Even being very generous with a BB who does 1/3 of her damage with a barrage that fires with her main gun salvo, 3 salvos from mk6 does more damage than 4 salvos from odin gun

the only point of odin gun is mobbing (when you don't have 457mm) or this month's challenge mode

[fallen jay]

Who of these ships should I get from medal shop? I have 269 currently.

[sweet delta]

san diego and choose a BB for tech

[fallen jay]

What about Belfast? Is she just for collection?

[sweet delta]

san diego and sirius are the only CL medal choices who are useful in battle

[fallen jay]

Useful how? What role do they fill?

[stark quiver]

Sandiego is AA carry and dps
Sirius is CV damage support

[fallen jay]

Shame I can’t grab both then…tough choice

[stark quiver]

It’s day one of the month blud

[fallen jay]

I know

[stark quiver]

I would grab sandy first
Unless you have a decent cv fleet to pair Sirius with

[fallen jay]

But I have none of those 5 ships. I’m leaning towards Belfast cause I have fairly solid mob and boss fleets.

[stark quiver]

Belfast is just going to make things worse

[fallen jay]

A what fleet?

[stark quiver]

A carrier fleet

[nova relic]

does oathing give literally zero stats in PvP or is it just not recommended for it

[stark quiver]

Oathing gives stats in every gamemode

[sweet delta]

Belfast isn't good, what more do you want to know? If you don't want to improve your current or future fleets, then pick Belfast

[nova relic]

[fallen jay]

Sorry. Anyway I’ll grab San Diego first since you recommended her first. I was leaning towards Belfast cause Belfast because I like her.

[nova relic]

it's just fleet tech stat bonuses that don't work in pvp right?

[hollow gust]

it does

[stark quiver]

No it doesn’t

[stark quiver]

Fleet tech does not work in PvP

[hollow gust]

wat? really? i have been lied to

[stark quiver]

PvP would be much more “broken” if it included tech

[nova relic]

[serene cloud]

[humble tapir]

whats a good kitakaze loadout?

[storm olive]

Fleet tech only affects your fleet power in PvP iirc, but it otherwise has zero effect

[stark quiver]

Btw I would recommend against oathing for PvP unless you are

1. A ultra sweat
2. Have a big wallet

[nova relic]

it's admiral nakhimov so she's got other stuff going for her at least

[soft raft]

a typical DD loadout

[humble tapir]

fast firing or high damage guns?

[soft raft]

the latter

[humble tapir]

okay thanx

[thorn tartan]

the datamine pin is blank and the wiki says under construction.....

[soft raft]

<@&472236072743600148> Stinky scam/pyramid scheme promo

[stark quiver]

Take his balls away

[south sequoia]

/mute 1400484151613718571

[odd root]

markbrain0223#0 got muted.

[fallen jay]

What did I miss

[wary skiff]

wwhats the best aquila plane setup for mobbing / opsci

[stark quiver]

Usually 2 flapjack and wyvern/spearfish for campaign mobbing
Flapjack,tenrai,wyvern/spearfish for opsi speed mobbing

[serene cloud]

[blazing pecan]

Quick question, when a main fleet ship has an AA gun equipped, their AA goes in the vanguard's AA circle, right?

i cant tell if they have their own AA radius

[sweet delta]

Only time fuze aa guns are separate if you choose to use them (which you shouldn't)

[blazing pecan]

I agree, why were they even added in

[stark quiver]

for ships like north carolina

[forest palm]

[stark quiver]

rental skins were gone for a day or two and then came back

[noble basin]

Guys need help wut to pick

[quaint tapir]

whatever faction tech you need

[wind oxide]

What's this month's arbiter?

[barren token]

I found Nagato to be useful, she is also in the CtA +20%xp when Unzen reruns. PoW is also very strong but you can get her with merit points

[noble basin]

Bro I need help

What ship should I choose bro?

[wind hazel]

Medal shop priority

BB- Hood, Tirpitz, the rest for faction tech
CV- Enterprise, the rest for faction tech
CA- no priority, only for faction tech
CL- San Diego, Sirius, the rest for faction tech
DD- Kazagumo, the rest for faction tech
SS- U-96

[wind oxide]

pick whoever you want ideally recommend tirpitz for tech points

[swift pivot]

Good evening, I wanted to know which augments are worth the Atelier Ryza event.

[rain vine]

all of them

[swift pivot]

Thank you!

[rapid grail]

did i hear pvp in this chat

anyways, does anyone have that image of required clears on the materials stages for maxing every core in yumia collab event

[wind oxide]

wait i dont think that's for cores

[wind oxide]

dont think there is one but i only needed 3-5 sorties on each of them after i'v finished crafting everything

[cerulean musk]

How do you get this? Nothing in missions anymore

[wind hazel]

from base building

[cerulean musk]

Oh

[wind oxide]

How much chances of getting gems from chap 2 farm?

[exotic wren]

wait, i need to manually collect mats on tiles for the rerun synthesizing?

[wind oxide]

first run yes, auto sortie then automatically collects them

[exotic wren]

oh

[stark quiver]

theres no real number for the chance
and nobody does that anyways

[wind oxide]

Ohh

[exotic wren]

nagamon does that

[icy sinew]

what u need?

[rapid grail]

just treat it like arknights 1-7 farming

you get a good chance of pull currency but your account will effectively be a standstill

and at your stage, idt you're on the best spot to do that. no one else here but the most dedicated of 1st year players

[wind hazel]

c1 farm is better

[stark quiver]

or you be a normal person and grind normallly

that said im farming 15-1 so...

[shell willow]

when all of the backline is ready to fire/airstrike then they will go in flag>top>bottom order, right? i always forget

[wind hazel]

if same timing yeah

[rapid grail]

Tirpitz for the KMS tech, you'll need it since some of the good PR botes are Germans and need KMS faction pts. Raising Tirpitz will give u that + some others if you know where to get them.
Rest is basically relegated to collection tiers... simply the state of the game where you can just get better ships nowadays. At least it's easier to get botes for the other major factions

[rapid grail]

true dat, but on the context of gems idt it's on the same tier as that depraved 2-1/2-4 comms farming. at least c1 is actually relevant for gameplay which is more of the scope of this channel anyways

[fathom crag]

If I’m gn spend money on ts game where’s the best place to do so

[stark quiver]

usually gem packs with 2x bonus
unless theres something else youd like

[rapid grail]

best place is ofc in the game's shop
yostar topup also exists as an alternative https://yo-topup.com/page/shop/azurlane

[undone saffron]

So i just got her from the medal shop should i max lb her? Is she even worth it

[fathom crag]

Not looking good for me. Only a month in and I can already see myself spending money on ts game

[hoary relic]

usable for newbies in case u dont have any other BBs

[rapid grail]

would recommend doing other BBs first
but when it's time to get someone like FdG or any other KMS backliner like AvP, then by all means, do so. She'll be good for that purpose

[undone saffron]

Hmm so basically iron or smth support?

[undone saffron]

I have like 2 i prob dont need her

[hoary relic]

who are?

[undone saffron]

Wait a min

[hoary relic]

show us your dock

[undone saffron]

Nvm i have more than two but due to mlb its rather useless i dont really have any specials well i do but im planning on using them for traf

[hoary relic]

u already have hood

[rapid grail]

for the express purpose of farming XP. PR botes notably need a lot of XP, any ship can help with that if they fit in the criteria

[undone saffron]

Yep

[hoary relic]

no reason to use bis for now tbh

retrofit portland also

she is still good until mid-game

[undone saffron]

What im planning to do

[wind hazel]

two portlands

[undone saffron]

A good friend told me i have two portlands lmao and to retrofit one of them

[undone saffron]

ITS HIM oh wait is it? I forgot

[hoary relic]

[undone saffron]

The things i need for portland can be farmed on
2 x4 right?

[hoary relic]

the cruiser retrofit bp?

u can exchange r it from guild shop

[undone saffron]

Yep

[wind hazel]

X-2 hard maps

they are not always on guild shop

[undone saffron]

see i ran out of hard level trials since well pretty embarassing to say

I kinda mistook
X-2 for X-3

[wind hazel]

farm it daily

you get 3 chance a day

[undone saffron]

Yepp

Im actually pretty close rn

[hoary relic]

dont tell me that ur "good friend" advised u to retro 2 portland

[cobalt robin]

two ports are the new meta

[stark quiver]

this is the best loadout i can use for ch15 support right?

[mild moon]

new player here so… uhh

what do i do in here

[plain saffron]

Hi

[mild moon]

hello

[mild moon]

^could someone help out im generally confused

also are there any meta rn?

[wind hazel]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

start reading

[mild moon]

They give us free pulls right

[cobalt robin]

More free pulls than most other gachas, Azur lane is very f2p friendly, it's just a very grindy game tho

[sinful escarp]

ill give you a tldr about the gems from clearing incase you get bored and skip that part: 3 dorm slots + 2nd floor dorm, rest is for dock space

[white agate]

there is no grind if i do not need to watch the screen while farming; litearlly al is perfectly managable with 5-10 minutes of screen attention per day unlike other gatchas requiring you to waste above 30 minutes

[wind oxide]

ehh my dailies takes more than 10mins tho

[mint flint]

i mean AL requires you to baby it and come back every now and then to repeat sortie, then you also need to retire/enhance ships

and whenever new events come out, first clears take a while

[white agate]

screen attention=/=screen game playing in background
and you waste time during screen attention time, not during screen background time

[iron hare]

Op siren is also a time sink if you dont want to waste the oil for the auto clear

[white agate]

yeah, i just buy 5k oil; tho i heard cheeky has a strat to not waste time, just use a timer and every time scout zone is aviable you autoclear

[cobalt rapids]

babysitting the game with breaks inbetween can be subjectively worse than just taking 30min of ur time at once and then being done altogether

[iron hare]

5K oil is like 15 run on stage 13. That is a lot of wasted xp and coins

[mint flint]

yeah, prevents you from really zoning in on anything else because you constantly need to check AL

its the most annoying gacha daily i have imo

[white agate]

idk, i am able to read books fine while playing; same for doing housework

[iron hare]

I play the game while building models, so i am also fine with looking at it time to time

[iron hare]

The smaller zones just do themselves with auto clear. You need to clear max 1-2 enemies manualy. Only the 40+ AP zones need the scouting

[wicked obsidian]

Is there any good gear here that I can +10 and use???
This is all the gold gear I have.

[mint flint]

higher rarity doesnt always mean better, but the hellcat, gold steam catapults, barracuda, quad mag torps are good

for dive bombers use the purple sb2c instead of the btd

[hollow sail]

steam catapults, hellcat, seafang, barracuda, twin 203mm SKC, 533mm quadruple magnetic torps, and if you start needing some AA (W12 and opsi have some planes) then also quadruple bofors and twin 113mm

[wind hazel]

can delay hedgehog until w14, sg radar for helena until when you need it

[wicked obsidian]

OK... Let me sort those out and... See how many I can +8.
+10 is too much

[wind hazel]

[mint flint]

instead of that, put the gear onto ships and see how many of those gears you actually need to use

[wind hazel]

+10 mk2, barracuda

[wind oxide]

Ehh take your time lol you dont need to +10 it at the moment

[wind hazel]

your unicorn is also using a shit fighter...

[north wharf]

Do I need to do hard 6-4 for Yuudachi or is regular 6-4 also fine?

[wind hazel]

regular, dont gimp your core data just for yuudachi, always do highest hard map for more core data

[north wharf]

Okay good, just couldn't find anywhere explicitly stating which one was best to do. Thanks

[wicked obsidian]

Do U mean twin 127mm MK 12 Dual-purpose Gun?

[wind hazel]

the rainbow gun Lion is using

406mm MK II

[wicked obsidian]

Oh...

[north wharf]

And the cruise pass upgrade is essentially just buying the skin with some cute extra's right? Not particularly huge in terms of value?

[wind hazel]

yes it's higher value if you want the skin, otherwise it become rather underwhelming

[hollow sail]

looks like it

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah... I need to do that 1st...

Looks like I only have 2 secondary gold gun.... Are there any purple good ones??

[hollow sail]

purple twin 152mm (fourth on the second row, but a purple instead) is solid as BB interception gun

i can't even tell if that's meant to be purple cuz the image looks grey as hell but if it's purple you can use it

[wicked obsidian]

It's purple... Al right.

[hollow sail]

if you are using any light cruisers then the twin 150mm tbtsk is a decent gun to use on them

[wicked obsidian]

that's currently on black rock shooter

[hollow sail]

and for destroyers the twin 120mm (6th on second row) is ok as an early gun also

or as secondary gun for your cruisers

[mild moon]

your telling me that…

[mint flint]

yro'ue

[mild moon]

this game gives more pulls than blue archive?

well thats fire guess its time to start grinding

[mint flint]

similar amount relative to pity

but better rates

[wicked obsidian]

Oh... And.. I have a few Core left about 3500.
Should I get something (gear) from shop??

[hollow sail]

you mean core data?

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah

It is used to buy gear right???

[mint flint]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[wicked obsidian]

Or any other use?

[hollow sail]

gear and independence pretty much

[mint flint]

priority list there, black and white shells for BBs are the highest prio for gear

[hollow sail]

and cog chips

[wicked obsidian]

The type 1 AP shell and super heavy shell

[mint flint]

yes

[wicked obsidian]

OK... Bought.

[hollow sail]

white shell is a bit more important, so if you only have enough for one buy the white shell

though you can pair black shells with purple white shell not sure how long new players take to get radars nowadays

[wicked obsidian]

I got 2000 more data left

[mint flint]

its good to buy the cog chips and arrays every month

[hollow sail]

independence and cog chips

[mint flint]

they might seem abundant for now but eventually you need a ton

[wicked obsidian]

Oh... That's good to know

[wicked obsidian]

What is this independent

[hollow sail]

it's her name

[mint flint]

shipgirl

[wicked obsidian]

Owwwwwww

I see roon illustrous and royal frotune

Previous month was same

[soft raft]

meh, meh, and very niche respectively

Core data ship selection doesnt rotate like medal does

[wicked obsidian]

owww.... I thought independence was a SSR....
I see her now... She's an Elite ship

[wind hazel]

you can(and should) retro her

[wicked obsidian]

She's that good!!!

[wicked obsidian]

Shouldn't I get more gear for the ship I have now though...

[wind hazel]

yes she's that good

bro you literally have 2k extra after buying the shells. you can't buy more than 1 shell of each type per month

[wicked obsidian]

Oh... I thought there were other important gear besides the 2 shells....

[spark patio]

is isla von duerer good for newbie like me?

[wind hazel]

not really

[wicked obsidian]

What 2 auxiliary should I put on lion?

[mint flint]

the shells

[wicked obsidian]

Both

[wind oxide]

the typical BB aux

[obtuse island]

is there a way to know what armor type is a guild boss

[mint flint]

shells are the default bb auxes

[wind oxide]

hpfc and shell

[mint flint]

one of each because their effects dont stack

[hollow sail]

the shells you just bought or radar + white shell if you have a radar

[wicked obsidian]

U mean SG radar

[hollow sail]

no

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses?term=guild

[hollow sail]

high standard fire control radar. you get it from research blueprints

[obtuse island]

thanks

[wind oxide]

What's this month's arbi?

[wind hazel]

strength

[wicked obsidian]

No... Only got 7 blueprint...

[noble pawn]

where's your flapjack

[worn anchor]

Free? How do I get it? Because I've already beaten the level, but I don't get anything

[wind hazel]

free plays

yeah it's shit and misleading UI lol

[mint flint]

you'll get them eventually

[wicked obsidian]

My What??

[mint flint]

gear lab fighter plane

[wind hazel]

ignore him, you're not there yet lol

[cobalt rapids]

looks like ure not there either

[wicked obsidian]

[mint flint]

+8 flapjack smh

[noble pawn]

my coin is only reserved for ships

I'm automatically assuming he plays the same time as me (Lion Gun from A Rose on the High Tower Event Shop)

[cobalt robin]

gear is also for ships

[wicked obsidian]

I did start then...

Just when it started

[cobalt robin]

you should've beaten w15 by now then 🙄

[robust nymph]

should i do this? i recently joined the guild so it says this

[wind hazel]

yes

[noble pawn]

join

[wicked obsidian]

I didn't have time for that....
And the lack of story... De motivated me...

[noble pawn]

No, gear cannot heal depression

[noble pawn]

what story bro I play for tits

[cobalt robin]

If you love your ships you would give them the best possible

They are fighting wars for you

[wicked obsidian]

U can't dive into tits without knowing them...

[cobalt robin]

Watch some lore vids on yt, where it's explained in depth, pretty interesting

[noble pawn]

If I love the ship I would give the best lewd skin available

[wicked obsidian]

Oh... And hay, lion's augment should be the sword right??

[cobalt robin]

And the best gear

[wicked obsidian]

I did that... And became broke

[wind hazel]

bow vs heavy, sword everything else

or sword everything, works too

[wicked obsidian]

Hmm.. OK. Sword

Did she became a little bit OK... Now¡

[wind hazel]

why stop at 8

no plates?

[wicked obsidian]

No... I have a lot.. But... Saving for other 7 ships... Gear...
All my ship are using +0 gear..

[tropic tusk]

y not focuse 1 by 1

[plain saffron]

they could afford being stuck at +6 and +8 lion

[wicked obsidian]

I thought it would be unbalanced to +10 only 1 among 6 ships...

[wind hazel]

+10 the main gun at least

[plain saffron]

also prob no need to upgrade guns on ship that do lesser dmg for now

[wicked obsidian]

Oh..ok 👌

[wicked obsidian]

And... I already got the list of which Guns to upgrade thx to Mori

[muted crescent]

ok… any good gear here I should +10 first or anything that I should scrap?

[wicked obsidian]

Your list is almost same as mine

[soft raft]

Keep the Twin 100ms for upgrading in gear lab
those american quints while decent, arent liked as much compared to the german quad mags due to their lack of homing capability

and the BTD-1 and Messershit are just complete ass

[hollow sail]

you don't need to scrap yet

[muted crescent]

also I can craft another gold roomba, do I?

[hollow sail]

meh

[forest palm]

If anything you shove unused gear that's useful on ships you don't use as a form of storage

[hollow sail]

you can just use the bofors alongside roombas for now

[soft raft]

maybe like 1 more
I rarely used more than 2 within both fleets

[muted crescent]

is gold roomba < purple bofors or?

[hollow sail]

no, i was talking about the gold bofors

[muted crescent]

I don't have enough of those 😭

[hollow sail]

you do

[muted crescent]

yeah but just 2 😭

[hollow sail]

that's fine

you can mix roomba and bofors

[muted crescent]

is the gold twin 127 any good?

[hollow sail]

roomba = huge range and good alpha but slow reload, bofors has decent reload so it helps the fire rate a bit

some people swear by triple roomba but mix is also valid depends on your ship levels and main fleet AA guns also

[hollow sail]

it is not good

noob trap gun

[muted crescent]

shit why did I scrap the BTD-1 😭
could've crafted that into the skyraider 😭

[hollow sail]

you mean skypirate, and it's not really worth crafting

[muted crescent]

oh woops

[wicked obsidian]

What should I put on Trafals??
U guys saw my gears... Can U tell me..

[hollow sail]

don't use quintuple mag

[wicked obsidian]

I only know I need to remove hedgehog

[hollow sail]

remove oxytorp

put HP aux like toolkit + other high HP item

[wicked obsidian]

I got a 533mm quintuple torpedo mount

[hollow sail]

use gold quad mag ideally if you don't have gold you can use purple quad mag if you don't have any of this you can use a normal gold quint or a normal purple quad

[wicked obsidian]

Does this work

[hollow sail]

it's not mag which isn't ideal, but purple quint mags are super slow reload while being inferior to quads. i would rather use this than purple quint mags probably

[hollow sail]

use that

on everyone, pretty much

[tropic tusk]

ur going to be using that till super late game

[wicked obsidian]

OK... +10 ing right nowww

But... I was told to use that blue gun on Trafalgar... Why though...

[muted crescent]

I have gold quint mags, good or?

[mint flint]

you're going to be using that forever until you gets improved quad mags

[wicked obsidian]

Aren't there much better main gun

[muted crescent]

you proc her skills fast with that gun

[tropic tusk]

u will only not use that when u already have every rainbow wep/ gear then if u have nothing to do then u will go for rainbow torp

[hollow sail]

not really

[mint flint]

rainbow torp isnt even better than quad mag

[hollow sail]

quint mags are very slow

[cobalt robin]

The gold quint mag torps is so bait

[hollow sail]

rainbow quint mag performs similar to worse than gold quad mag if you need point of comparison

[tropic tusk]

oh its worst? i thoguht its just not worth cause it cost more

[muted crescent]

so... get triples and just craft to quads, yes?
cuz if so I can craft 1 rn 💀

[mint flint]

its not worth because it costs more and performs about the same or worse

[tropic tusk]

oh

[hollow sail]

equalish to worse in general. there are niche scenario where it can be good but it depends on several factors

[mint flint]

the only mag torps better than quad mags are improved quad mags

[wicked obsidian]

Oh..

[hollow sail]

i think the unzen mogador torp thing used rainbow quint mags didn't it

[mint flint]

other than like really specific scenarios

[hollow sail]

that's pretty much the only "meta" use of rainbow quint mag

[wicked obsidian]

What's the best main gun for Trafalgar thoo..

[muted crescent]

pull out the 76mm blue AA gun

[hollow sail]

trafalgar did well with peashooters didn't she?

[muted crescent]

peashooters?

[hollow sail]

i have not paid much attention to her before

[mint flint]

just so you know, ships (including UR ships) arent good until they're MLB

[hollow sail]

peashooter is what we call the weak fast guns like that blue 76mm and a couple others similar to it

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah... Don't have enough bulin

[muted crescent]

ah.
yeah you usually want peashooters on traffy due to this
check image below for more

[cobalt robin]

eh usable at 2lb

[muted crescent]

It's acc pretty good I think

[hollow sail]

from reading that and from what i recall of other geared trafalgars peashooters are valid

[wicked obsidian]

So... I don't need to change her main gun then... Ha

[muted crescent]

nope, you don't need to change it. her, Ayanami nad Shimakaze are the only 3 ships I know who want this gun

[mint flint]

blue 76mm is bis for a few dds

[cobalt robin]

btw is she not dying with hedgehog and torp aux?

[hollow sail]

there are others

[muted crescent]

ye ik, the gold twin 100, or the twin 100 kai

[wicked obsidian]

Not really... I can go far as SP stages

[hollow sail]

Z52, Z57, kazagumo, scylla also do well with peashooter

[wicked obsidian]

With +0 gears

[muted crescent]

ah.

[cobalt robin]

Try harder campaign stages, she will be dying soon

[muted crescent]

wait hold tf up chat

do I buy Amagi for grinding Izumo CDP

[hollow sail]

amagi is outdated

[red hawk]

am I good to just kind of buy whatever ships I don't have from guild shop?

[muted crescent]

ye but I need only 1 ship lol

[wicked obsidian]

Isn't amagi in medal shop now

[red hawk]

I did snag u-556 cause I heard she wasn't terrible

[hollow sail]

check what you have maybe you can level something that has a good tech bonus

[muted crescent]

it's Izumo. I need another ship to start his CDP 😭

[red hawk]

im not at the point where I have enough spare resources to level for tech

[hollow sail]

i'm a bit confused, you have her unlocked right

[red hawk]

oh nvm mb

[hollow sail]

do you have any other main fleet IJN

[muted crescent]

ok nvm I apparently got another 1 somehow

[cobalt robin]

What are the chances of getting 3 akashis in a row with nothing

[muted crescent]

I guess I can just slave with Nagato 💀

[hollow sail]

not that unlikely

[cobalt robin]

yesterday 2 akashis in half hour, lucky but then immediately unlucky cause both sold 0 boxes

[wicked obsidian]

How's Yumina?

[muted crescent]

alr oathed Yumia holy fuck bro 😭

[cobalt robin]

She has been good although you do need to use augment + 2 aux and 1 gold cata

[hollow sail]

decent ship. doesn't go into any meta fleets as expected (gold ships almost never do, especially not nowadays)

[cobalt robin]

Could go the aa aux instead of cata but meh

[cobalt robin]

Yea duh 🙄

[wicked obsidian]

Was it worth it spending 500 orbs

[cobalt robin]

Day 1 oath

[wicked obsidian]

Wait was it 400

[cobalt robin]

Yes, because I play for waifus, not meta

[muted crescent]

400. but with a bit of RNG, you can get it with 80 only

[cobalt robin]

I'm close to 300 builds so far since I'm still missing an elite

So around 600 cubes

[tropic tusk]

but if u want to push 14+ u need good ships not just wifus

[wicked obsidian]

Same as me... But I spent 153 cubes on both banner..

[cobalt robin]

I'm gonna do with waifus that are also good

The fleet on the ss is just a random one I put together

[tropic tusk]

so i guess u mean everyone in this game are wifus

[cobalt robin]

Nope

I use ships I like

[wicked obsidian]

I get what he's saying... I would also go as far as spend 500 for yumina

[tropic tusk]

yumina can get u past 14 but not 15

[cobalt robin]

It's only because of that stupid elite otherwise I would be done at 440 cubes already

[tropic tusk]

wont be the best choice but she "can" do it

[cobalt robin]

Who said I'm gonna do 15 with yumia?

[tropic tusk]

yea ture that

stupid elite

[cobalt robin]

half the ships I love aren't even in my w14 fleets

[hollow sail]

you can use yumia in W15... you just need to compensate elsewhere. you're not gonna necessarily fail just because you're using one ship that isn't the meta

and yumia does enough that she doesn't feel like you are dragging complete deadweight

[cobalt robin]

well I've gotten this far in 2 months by playing like this so I'll keep going

she is pretty decent

[hollow sail]

if you consider that W15 has been beaten with no support fleets and no subs and a single fleet and all of that

there is leeway to what you can bring

[wicked obsidian]

Oh... Hay, Ren... U told me to change Trafalgar 's aux rught....

[hollow gust]

and those people have maxed out gear cats and tech; you cant compare to regular players

[wicked obsidian]

But isn't pure oxygen torpedo good

[cobalt robin]

meh

Hp aux is 99% of the time just better

For dds especially

[hollow sail]

i am not comparing to regular players. it's not "because of the cats and tech" it's more "despite what you have" because not having support fleet and not using subs is not that easily offset. the point is that you don't need to follow meta that closely necessarily for a clear. it's pretty doable to bring one ship that is below meta level

[hardy creek]

This gun is good right?

[cobalt robin]

It's the best aa gun but it should be the last ur gear you go for

not a priority at all, quite the opposite

[wicked obsidian]

So,, what do you recommend I use....

[cobalt robin]

Just run double toolbox

[wicked obsidian]

I changed the torpedo to gold...

[cobalt robin]

you won't be needing hedgehog until w14

[mint flint]

just use purple quad mags

[tropic tusk]

it iis but u sure u dont have other wep to craft first as that inst high prio

[wicked obsidian]

How about this... Autoloader

[cobalt robin]

bro

[mint flint]

autoloader does very little

just use double toolbox

[cobalt robin]

Autoloader on DD

[hollow gust]

most of the playerbase dont have such leeways? they will actually need the best possible compostion to clean out w15.

[tropic tusk]

wait i tag wrong lol

oh wait i tag right

[hollow gust]

Autoloader is one of the best equipment for barrage DDs like z52 and traffy, They want to hit certain breakpoints

[wicked obsidian]

Wrong combination ¿

[cobalt robin]

niche use case

99% of the time it's double toolbox

[hollow gust]

nor does toolbox skills stack

[wicked obsidian]

Already changed to gold and +10

[cobalt robin]

well you don't use toolbox for the skill

[mint flint]

you're using it for hp anyway

[hollow sail]

if you are at the point of thinking to try out W15 you are going to prepare substantially already. you will not need the absolute best in every single respect. it's not like if you have an aquila you have to use her instead of using a yumia or you will fail, that's not really how it is... it's different from player to player. some will have great stuff and can easily afford to bring yumia along even without having played for 6 years and having all the tech and perfect cats or whatever

[hollow gust]

if you are subbing out aquila for yumia then you are fucked?

[wicked obsidian]

OK.. Fine double toolkit

[hollow sail]

why would subbing out a single ship doom you to fail

[hollow gust]

aquila fulfils a specific role in the compsition, without her or relevant replacements musashi is going to kill herself

[cobalt robin]

watch me beat w15 with yumia

[hollow sail]

i am not talking about that "specific composition"

[mint flint]

theres some other auxes that have the same hp value as toolkit that you can use in place of a 2nd one

[hollow sail]

i am talking simply in a "good ship" vs "not as good ship" sense. even outside the broken musashi combo aquila is still a good ship for W15

[hollow gust]

its like you dont understand the reasoning for using certain ships

[wicked obsidian]

Like? ¿

[hollow sail]

??? i understand perfectly musashi/aquila combo. you don't need to use musashi to use aquila, she is still good besides that

[cobalt robin]

some gold hp aux but they're not very noteworthy

[wind hazel]

you can use raff+yumia

[cobalt robin]

lemme pull out my raff that I don't have

[wicked obsidian]

Oww

[hollow gust]

you know why musashi is so strong in w15? cause she has the specific sustain from aquila or volga? if you replace aquila in the comp musashi will struggle? there is a difference between using a variety of compotion and there is using ships that will lose you w15

[hollow sail]

that wasn't the point

[cobalt robin]

gph beef cause me love yumia

[wicked obsidian]

Is there no gold ver. Of Toolkit?

[cobalt robin]

Nope

[soft raft]

Nope

[mint flint]

nothing with the same effects

[hollow gust]

toolbox+gold hp aux is generally going to be the best equip for your DDs for full survivability

[mint flint]

its only like +50 hp but it costs more to upgrade

[wicked obsidian]

I have toolbox but no other gold HP aux

[mint flint]

only some have other effects

[wicked obsidian]

Is there any in the shop??

[mint flint]

isnt that celestial aux one

[cobalt robin]

Double toolbox will be plenty don't worry abt the gold hp aux

[wind hazel]

flammi is free 550 hp aux from this event

[wind oxide]

ehh there's many from the event duhh

[hollow sail]

like i said, i understand musashi aquila combo. i'm not talking about musashi. i could have named any other carrier that you might use alongside unicorn/klaudia plus whatever you're using. you're not gonna be doomed, just for using yumia, that is really all i said. the people who would be doomed for using yumia specifically over one other ship is only a certain subsection. anyway this is pretty pointless discussion

[wicked obsidian]

Fu*k my auto translator

[wicked obsidian]

It gives stuff only to Yumina though...

[wind hazel]

you can ignore it

[soft raft]

That's not the point

[muted crescent]

the AVI buff can be ignored. 550 HP is given to anyone

[mint flint]

you use hp auxes for the hp stat rather than the other stuff they give

[cobalt robin]

the other gold hp aux also have specific effects which you can ignore

[wind hazel]

there's also heavenly armillary, also 550hp

[mint flint]

very few have anything useful

[polar lion]

Is cruise pass wurf it?

[cobalt robin]

seal of the 4 gods is pretty good but only for an shan ddgs

[cobalt robin]

For Monty skin it's worth it

[wind hazel]

if you like the skin yeah

[wicked obsidian]

I am gonna keep with the double toolbox

[wind hazel]

sure that works

[mint flint]

double toolbox is the same as toolbox + gold hp aux but just with 50 less hp, doesnt make much difference

[wicked obsidian]

U guys have Trafalgar right.... Can I see you guy's build

[cobalt robin]

Kenny I will find you

[polar lion]

Like this cultured answer

[wicked obsidian]

It's gonna make me wanna cry

[cobalt robin]

Don't have

[mint flint]

i have her i just dont have her built

[hollow gust]

your trafalgar isnt even mlb, you shouldnt be using her

[wicked obsidian]

I saw u during the event thoo

[cobalt robin]

I didn't play enough to get traf

[muted crescent]

wtf

[wicked obsidian]

Aaaaau

[muted crescent]

how do u have Lion but not Traf 😭

[cobalt robin]

Because I got lucky, got her in like 40 pulls

[mint flint]

the +7 goldburn is essential

[muted crescent]

bro I got her in like 5 days 💀

[wind hazel]

im too lazy to update this pic

[cobalt robin]

update it

[muted crescent]

Flammi can replace a toolkit, yes?

cuz if so I can build that rn lmao

[cobalt robin]

Not a worthwhile investment

[wind hazel]

as 2nd hp aux, yes

[cobalt robin]

The general plates could be used for some other gear

[muted crescent]

hmm...

[wind hazel]

like what, another hp aux?

[muted crescent]

do I build Traffy or do I save for next UR

[wicked obsidian]

I +10 ed flammi the moment I got it...

[wind hazel]

there aren't too many 550hp aux you can get lol

[cobalt robin]

50 more gold catas

[hollow sail]

nothing wrong with +10 some gold HP auxes

[mint flint]

is she mlb

[muted crescent]

well I can get her to 2 lbs an that's it

[mint flint]

ships arent good if they arent mlb

[muted crescent]

do I just save bulins for next UR in 2 months or?

[cobalt robin]

usable at 2lb

[wicked obsidian]

Same as me...

I need 1 more bulin to mlb

[muted crescent]

oof

[hollow sail]

some ships are more usable at non-MLB than others but you should look towards MLBing

[hollow gust]

shouldnt even be investing in Vanguard URs until your main fleet is fixed

[cobalt robin]

yea ofc you should go for mlb but I wouldn't call ALL non mlb ships shit

[wind oxide]

Depends on what other UR you have for example if you have zwei you might invest on her or if its just traf then maybe you can wait
Also the next new UR it's likely to be a van

[muted crescent]

it's literally Traf remaining, Zwei's alr MLB

[mint flint]

they might not be shit but they arent good

[last swift]

guys i need these two fish and fries lovers in both fleets for the task where should i put them

[hollow sail]

it's a sweeping statement to disincentivize newbies from using stuff like non-MLB BBs and stuff like that, it really depends

[cobalt robin]

and decent is usable

[wind oxide]

Well you can wait if you want but if you have good main fleet URs and traf is just 1lb away then you might also get her mlb if you can but you can also wait

[cobalt robin]

There's a clear difference between useless and usable, gph likes throwing around the word useless too much

[mint flint]

has anyone even said useless yet

[hollow sail]

some of the research ships can do their intended job decently without being dev 30, like some of the tanks. if you have like a dev 25 agir she's still gonna be a great tank and it's not like she's missing any guns

[wind hazel]

non-mlb ships are useless

[muted crescent]

I'm pretty sure useless is a cheeky thing anyway 😭
I haven't seen anyone else say it lmao

[cobalt robin]

not now but I've seen plenty of people saying non mlb ships are useless

[last swift]

huh

[wind hazel]

the only nonmlb ships that i consider not useless are PR tanks lol

[cobalt robin]

cheeky does say that often

[hollow gust]

Saratoga Nelson Unicorn
Jervis Janus Portland

ArkRoyal Blackrock Enterprise
Roon Helena Sandiego

[soft raft]

for what task

[muted crescent]

umm... Portland off-tank 💀

[soft raft]

Jervis is pretty tanky for a DD

[hollow gust]

although until those two are maxed,you shouldnt be using them

[hollow sail]

some buffers, technically, could also fall under that

[soft raft]

tho ig at lvl 1 she wouldnt be doing shit lol

[wicked obsidian]

Any good purple anti-air??
And is the 1st one not good?

[hollow gust]

anything with bofors is fine

[wicked obsidian]

bofors?

[cobalt robin]

name

[mint flint]

the first aa gun in the image is the quad bofors

[hollow sail]

purple roomba/bofors are still decent, just beware of purple roomba being even slower than gold roomba

[tribal grail]

How do I change this background? I dont like this loli bruh

[wicked obsidian]

Wait.. I still don't get it... bofors / roomba

[hollow sail]

why'd you pick her then

[cobalt robin]

Click on your profile and switch secretary

[mint flint]

💔 switch your secretary

[hollow sail]

quadruple bofors and twin 113mm are the guns we are talking about (twin 113mm is nicknamed roomba by the community because... look at it)

[mint flint]

the twin 113 is nicknamed the roomba

[cobalt robin]

I'm pretty sure the starter is the default secretary when you start out

[mint flint]

no but he picked laffey out of the 3 starter ships

[cobalt robin]

all of em are lolis anyway

[wicked obsidian]

911

[mint flint]

I dont like this loli
implying he like other lolis

[stoic pewter]

click the icon top left, click secretary, click laffey, swap out

[cobalt robin]

[wicked obsidian]

He definitely isn't saying that

[stoic pewter]

yeah that’s just you mate

[keen sable]

Is this how it works?

At server reset, if you are logged in new daily missions will appear immediately and available extra commissions will receive a 12 hour expiration timer.

[cobalt robin]

yes

[hollow sail]

that was added recently

[keen sable]

yah updating wiki

was it in a patch note?

[cobalt robin]

It was I think

[hollow sail]

all the comms that come after the ones dubbed "daily" on the daily tab count for the 8h thing

it's good quality of life, that way you can ignore bad ones near the reset

and just take the dailies after reset

[wicked obsidian]

It sounded like names of 🐮 cows to me

[keen sable]

yeah no more logging off or choosing to stay on, etc

[cobalt robin]

Roomba is literally the the circular robot vacuum

[hollow sail]

that's kashino not bofors

[static sphinx]

What should I do with my general blueprints? Do I convert them into dev 30 characters so I can exchange for more cores or do I choose for a ship that doesn’t have dev 30 yet?

[wind hazel]

depends on which series general bp

[keen sable]

yeah 6/26 patch notes. I've been busy with holiday and conferences so couldn't read much. thanks all

[static sphinx]

1-7

[cobalt robin]

everything below 7 I would just use to convert for more protocore

[wicked obsidian]

😅 ...
Anyways... Without those 2 anti air...
I still need to equip on other ships...
Do I just put random purple on them...

[static sphinx]

Ok thanks

[mint flint]

do you have any purple bofors

[wind hazel]

use on shimanto if you haven't fs5 shimanto

[static sphinx]

Ok

[hollow sail]

use twin 127mm i guess

[cobalt robin]

pr6 coining when 😔😔

[hollow sail]

the first one on the second row

[wicked obsidian]

Only have 1 purple roomba...thats it

[mint flint]

are you able to craft any aa from bps

[hollow sail]

or SKCs might also be decent

[wicked obsidian]

Damm..looks like.... .i can craft a lot...

[cobalt robin]

will my current strongholds disappear on Monday?

[hollow sail]

no

[cobalt robin]

good

[hollow sail]

strongholds stack, but the game doesn't show all of them at once

[wind oxide]

two should be the max amount of stack

[wicked obsidian]

But no bofors or bofors.....

[hollow sail]

3 is max if you haven't done any, but if you clear one, 2 is max that shows

[wind hazel]

just use whatever AA gun, you dont have to worry until like w12

[hollow sail]

no idea why it is like that but it is

[wicked obsidian]

I see a Octuple 40m in craft... This one looks crazy