gameplay-help

[undone zinc]

But what about the time until You meet the requirements for pr7-8?!

[sweet delta]

You obtain the coinable ships like FdG and Anchorage and Aegir as usual

[stiff isle]

Is the Yumia plane worth grabbing at least one copy of?

[hollow sail]

what's that

[stiff isle]

I'll take a screen shot here in a minute.

[wind hazel]

those are just map drop blueprints, and it's shit

[stiff isle]

Ok thanks!

[sweet delta]

Is it in gear lab?

[hollow sail]

you know the answer to that question

[sweet delta]

I did not know it when I asked the question

[hollow sail]

[barren token]

You can build it and its next stage (shiden kai 4) in the gear lab, its basically an improved A7M Reppu

A question of my own, which UR AA gun should be gotten first, the french 57mm or the american 3"?

[sweet delta]

76mm is better

i do not recommend 57mm unless

1. you already have a lot of 76mm
2. you know how AA reload really works
3. you need to minmax that whatever% AA
   or you need a french AA gun

[clear harbor]

Is the Fair Winds pass pretty good value?

[wind hazel]

if you like the skin

[sullen dew]

For OS, how do you unlock the zone at the center of the map?

[sinful escarp]

did you finish the main campaign for opsi?

[sullen dew]

Does that include the practice against enforcers?

[sinful escarp]

as long as there is stil the red exclamation mark its still nto done

tbh i dont remember the main campagin of opsi. i just did everything until the exclamation mark was gone

[tropic tusk]

Whts the other 3 for that event mission?

[sullen dew]

welp. back to the grind.

[sinful escarp]

do it fast since there is only 1hr 17 mins left till it resets

[errant vector]

what can you do with the extra event items? the color and rainbow neutralizers

[sullen dew]

Just got it

[hollow sail]

as long as you don't exit opsi you can stay for a while even after post reset. you can also get an extra set of daily missions if you are in opsi by the time of the reset

[clear harbor]

What exactly resets? I just opened up the middle area, too.

[sinful escarp]

whole opsi. it resets monthly

[sullen dew]

First arbiter down. PAIN.

[sinful escarp]

not the main campaign, but everything else, shops cleared zones etc

[clear harbor]

Ohhhhhhh dang.

[stark quiver]

craft everything once

[noble pawn]

Pretty good value for augment, exp book and lots of resources including gold bullins

[clear harbor]

Thanks! I ended up buying it for the outfit.

[wicked obsidian]

Is there any guide for Ryza girls on which gear to equip on who???

[noble pawn]

I mean, that Montpelier skin is hella good. I'd say better than Hatsuzuki one lol

[noble pawn]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[clear harbor]

Do the pass skins ever come back as reruns or something?

[plain saffron]

In the cruise shop but cost gems

[clear harbor]

Oh I see. Thanks

[agile sierra]

Is the ship costume in next battle pass easy to get or do you gotta get lucky pulling her? Starts with an M

Montpelier or sum

[noble pawn]

battle pass? you mean fair winds?

[agile sierra]

Yessir

[noble pawn]

I think this answer your question

[agile sierra]

For the character though?

[noble pawn]

you only get the skin not the ship

[stark quiver]

only if you like the skin
all the other resources, are either f2p obtainable, or arent of much value
300 gems for 10 usd is also a bad deal

[wicked obsidian]

This doesn't tell what to equip on who...

[agile sierra]

If I don’t got the ship how can I easily get her

[noble pawn]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ss pretty much

[agile sierra]

Anywhere else besides the normal pull system?

[stark quiver]

montpelier?

[agile sierra]

Yessir

[hollow sail]

they come back but there's currently like a 2 and a half year wait period on cruise pass skins being added or something like that

[wicked obsidian]

What...

[stark quiver]

she appears to be only light pool

[noble pawn]

what gear btw? Augment or just gear in general?

[stark quiver]

i also do not think you should pull light for monty

[wicked obsidian]

The gear's that we got from event through grinding

[noble pawn]

Aux gear right?

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah

[agile sierra]

Wdym? Where should I pull or should I save for 7th anniversary?

[noble pawn]

Idk I just follow this like elixir like this guide gives

[dreamy blade]

meaning there is no easy way to get monty besides getting lucky on a random daily light pull

[noble pawn]

pretty much nonexistent

[stark quiver]

the last time i pulled perma i got nothing and bricked my account

[stark quiver]

either save for EN anni in august or save for setptember event, where there will likely be a new UR

[dreamy blade]

idk when the next wishing well is, is that only once a year?

[wicked obsidian]

Wait... Isn't it a bad idea to follow this guide.... That's what I got told..

[stark quiver]

who are you using

[wicked obsidian]

I got everyone...

Yumina and her 3 sidekicks

[stark quiver]

youre using all of them?

[wicked obsidian]

Right now just Yumina

[stark quiver]

lets see

#media-content message just watch this lol

[noble pawn]

Why?

[wicked obsidian]

Wow... This one is correct?
Cause I watched it

[stark quiver]

neptune gun being on top of the list already sells it
as well as the new player's guide on the top being either wrong or really outdated

[wicked obsidian]

What he said

[noble pawn]

I see

[noble pawn]

But I don't see Neptune gear on top of the list

[stark quiver]

BB aux

[undone zinc]

Is it better a fighter with pure cannons or a fighter with both cannons and bombs?

I feel like i'm back in Warthunder asking that question

[stark quiver]

usually both guns and bombs

[undone zinc]

Oh we have both light and heavy fighters here

The hell is a medium fighter

[wicked obsidian]

They... Only equeped the Event gear on Yumina... And nobody else...
What was the point grinding for the gears

[stark quiver]

i mean, its a video thats solely on yumia

[undone zinc]

Wait is Yumia useful?!

[wicked obsidian]

I watched the other 2 video as well...

[stark quiver]

in the grand scheme of things no

[wicked obsidian]

Collection

[stark quiver]

light medium and heavy refer to the enemy armor types
read the top descriptions

[undone zinc]

yey

[hollow sail]

she would not be part of the absolute best fleets

[undone zinc]

Ohh ty ty

[tropic tusk]

Craft everything as in only the 1/1 right?

[stark quiver]

there are 25 craftable items
craft each at least once

[noble pawn]

Oh you mean secondary gun? I rarely see it only main gun thingy. I usually prioritize equip guide from samheart546. I mean he ask which eq for specific character

[tropic tusk]

Oh it counts on both event? Or only the rerun

[forest palm]

I know Yumia wants you to craft at least 1 of everything, not sure about Ryza

[stark quiver]

does ryza even have that mission

[tropic tusk]

Oh even the skin and the test tube?

[stark quiver]

uhh yes

[tropic tusk]

Lol this whole time I thought I miss something

I just didn't craft the test tube

[stark quiver]

i was indeed bad at counting

[tropic tusk]

So skin also count?

[grand solar]

Well that was a whole lot of wasted effort...that last stronghold was a nightmare that never seemed to end. The final boss had a heal that went into effect once it got below 30% which it started the battle at and would heal all the way back up to 40% by the end of it and there wasn't much I could do to stop it.

[sinful escarp]

that is just a dps check. i remember when i had that problem. a proper fleet with some UR will work

[plain saffron]

Use cv, store as much charge as possible and try to not hit 30%. Then launch all at once

Because the heal is x% per few seconds so if you can burst 30% ish hp you can possibly kill it

[grand solar]

I was doing something to it. I did managed to get it down to about 20%, but time simply ran out on me.

[plain saffron]

But in the end it's still dps check

[grand solar]

Which means mine sucks...go figure..

I suck at a bunch of things...what else is new...

Which here is my suckass fleets. I know they suck.

[wind hazel]

indeed they suck

[sinful escarp]

especially that 4th fleet. even with musashi and sirius there

[forest palm]

looks like stuff was thrown at the wall to see what stuck, and what stuck is barely clinging to the wall

[sinful escarp]

open a thread and post your full docks there, someone may come and help you build a fleet

[clear harbor]

Oh dear. For some reason I thought Hatsuzuki was a research ship. I kind of bought the cruise pass for nothing. Maybe they'll rerun her event soon? 😅

[grand solar]

Here is the equipment for my first fleet.

[forest palm]

[forest palm]

please don't spam your ship equipment here, open a thread, but the major issue with your fleets is the composition more than it is the gear choices you are making

[sinful escarp]

plus its a bother to reply here with the slowmode. so just make the thread so we wont have to deal with slow mode

[cobalt rapids]

needs more +9 gear

[forest palm]

+11 Twin 128 is a choice

[grand solar]

Sessha1983 ships.

[verbal plinth]

how many strongholds cant opsiren have at one time 2?

[wind oxide]

Beginning of month 2
Later one at every start of week

[verbal plinth]

so if i dont get the 2 done before weekly reset i dont get the new one or can i have 3

[grand solar]

They stack up.

As I had like five or six before reset almost an hour ago.

[hollow sail]

the way it works is if you don't do any 3 locations can show up at the same time, after you clear the first only two can show up at the same time but if you clear one of the two, you will get another one and they get added each uh monday i think it is

so you can just do them all at the end of the month anyways because the game keeps track of how many mondays passed

[verbal plinth]

ohh so no rush

thought you had to do them or it blocked spawning

[grand solar]

Okay so posted my whole dock.

[slim hinge]

Are the rent skins only available for a week? There's no longer an option to select them.

[boreal wagon]

they usually last the entire event but they for some reason removed them early (which may or may not be fixed)

[hard pond]

I finally got her

Is this good for someone who started 8 months ago. And no money spent

[thorn tartan]

i need hlp

[silk sphinx]

Well if you’re satisfied it’s good enough, but 8 months is a lot of time…

[silk sphinx]

Not for this channel anyways

Bragging or celebrations in #trophy-room unless you have questions

[hard pond]

Ok

[thorn tartan]

i've got a bunch of missions that say level up core L1 level up core L2........in the Tower of Horizons. But I can't find where or how to do these missions

clicking on the Go button does nothing

[stiff isle]

On the event map screen there's a core option at the bottom

[silk sphinx]

See power core to the bottom right? Click on it

[thorn tartan]

i see them now, i was in materials i guess

[silk sphinx]

The upgrades are small but they just need mats which you’ll have an excess of

[thorn tartan]

i'm missing mats..... do the core area mats correspond to the mats stages?

[eternal grove]

Is there a guide on what to buy in the exchange Shop?

[silk sphinx]

yes

[versed forum]

for nakh+rumey cv light/med, who's better ships to replace soyuz don't have her

[silk sphinx]

i don't think so, but the classified blue coordinates are permanent, i.e. you can do them whenever, they'll never expire or refresh. Also one-time only. the map coordiantes (i.e. Hidden + abyssal coordinates are recommended purchases if you can defeat them)

[sinful escarp]

these two lets you afk opsi with jsut a few clicks

[silk sphinx]

those two are if you want to afk it, otherwise you can do it normally

[sinful escarp]

get all the classified loggers eventually. they are a one time purchase that give you a UR print at the end

H.E.L.P. too

[eternal grove]

There any downsides for afk'ing?

[sinful escarp]

for me all i dont get are the coins

[hollow sail]

i always buy the hidden zone logger cuz there really is no reason not to unless you are very new and actually strapped for vouchers

[silk sphinx]

soyuz is kind of important because nakh+soyuz actually has a stop

without one of the two you don't have it

[sinful escarp]

no downsides tbh

[silk sphinx]

so probably implacable instead in that case

well it's still 1k vouchers, and tbh i found it easy enough to just pop into opsi occasionally and enter a hidden coordinate/do recon

i rarely buy those two

[eternal grove]

Thx.

[silk sphinx]

no downsides, saves a lot of time, do it if you value your time at the cost of some resource efficiency

[hollow sail]

there are only technically, very very minor downsides

[sinful escarp]

tbh i did that since opsi started and i never saw a difference from what others are saying here

as long as you clear out the shops, zones, arbiter, Harbiter i dont notice a difference

[hollow sail]

your fleets will head to clear each miniboss node on strongholds immediately and the mobs around that siren node will vanish if not killed, and on normal zones auto won't discriminate between picking up the siren alarm over the other nodes which will cause at most two enemy fleets and two resource points to be lost. but this is relatively insignificant in the grand scheme

[sinful escarp]

the hardest part of opsi is the first month because of no afk and clearing its campaign. after that its afk

[ocean shuttle]

moral not recovering passively. went to bed last night, this morning my first fleet is still orange unhappy face. happened yesterday too. what's the cause?

[silk sphinx]

never heard of that bug

[hollow sail]

there's also the mysterious "possibly containing valuables" resource node which idk if it really is better than the other nodes or not... but yeah

i think i got something better out of it once or twice compared to the usual, if it's different it's quite rare

[silk sphinx]

i'll assume you're probably telling the truth, but for real i've never heard of that bug anywhere or from anyone else

[hollow sail]

this should not be possible, unless it's a desync issue

[ocean shuttle]

yeah, i thought it would be a server side not client side thing

[hollow sail]

if so probably only visual and you should restart game

[ocean shuttle]

im restarting now :/

[eternal grove]

Do the Port Shops reset like when first month doing opsi?

[ocean shuttle]

ah, thankfully it was just a desync thing. moral went from 0 after i just ran a few sorties, to 107

[noble pawn]

Yes, like medal shop

[hollow sail]

port shops are reset each month. there are two types of port shops though

[ocean shuttle]

very weird that i was even able to run sorties and get the "exhausted" popup and no desync resolve

[noble pawn]

Uh sorry, yes too

[silk sphinx]

yea i've never heard or seen that myself in some >3.5 years of playing but ig

[hollow sail]

after you clear a certain chapter of opsi campaign and you enter a new opsi month cycle, you will have a different more modern shop

[sinful escarp]

hax

[hollow sail]

so it is recommended to clear the opsi campaign missions as soon as possible

[sinful escarp]

yeah, quick way to get the things for META boss fight

[silk sphinx]

an alternative is usin voroshilov or tashkent, but soyuz is obv much better

[versed forum]

don't have that 2, ig don't have choice i just use ijn cv and wait for soyuz rerun

[visual bane]

does this happen after hard arbiter?

[hollow sail]

no it's after a opsi campaign mission

[silk sphinx]

need to complete chapter 4 in opsi

[hollow sail]

chapter 4 gives you a lot

also daily missions and strongholds so really really want to do chapter 4 asap

[visual bane]

ok ive been sitting on hard arbiter and thought i was missing out on stuff

[silk sphinx]

i don't think strongholds and daily missions are affected by that

[hollow sail]

you'll miss out on a little bit of resources without hard arbiter

but it's not a huge amount

[silk sphinx]

it's mainly just without monthly refresh and old opsi shop

[thorn tartan]

nothing special either

[hollow sail]

the wiki said so

[silk sphinx]

where?

[hollow sail]

right at the top of the opsi wiki page

[silk sphinx]

huh, thank you for correcting me

[honest sequoia]

do I take the 30min queue or just go for meck

[hollow sail]

neither, you take the 4h rigging

[serene cloud]

what should i prioritize in opsi shop, i only have 3.9k vouchers

[hollow sail]

well for a more detailed/serious response PR6 gives hindy gun which is eh

and you need 50 prints for one, so kinda depends if you're planning to go back and get that also or if you've bought any prints in protocore shop

4h rigging is valid to take there for faster meck guns, which would be handy to get multiple of

[hollow sail]

siren loggers/hidden zone loggers if you can do them. which you might not if you're new so hold out for now

level up along the month and see how you're doing towards the end

[serene cloud]

i can clear arbiter so i can prolly full clear those

so i should buy the highest x number right

[hollow sail]

you can't back out of abyssal fights, but you do get 4 fleets and there are two hidden mob fleets you can clear to remove your low resolve debuff

so it should not be too hard, especially if you can deal with arbiter even with a few trips

[hollow sail]

wasn't talking about those

[serene cloud]

oh

[hollow sail]

those are different. the classified files loggers are one-time purchases, they give nice resources but you can buy them whenever you feel like and you aren't missing out if you don't buy them immediately

all of them also give the same kinds of resources

[serene cloud]

ohh okay, noted

[hollow sail]

so none are superior to another

the hidden zone/siren loggers are the ones towards the bottom

and those yes, they are refreshed on the shop every month so you want to buy them every month

[serene cloud]

thank you for your help

[sinful escarp]

classified files are a one time purchase each and wont return when opsi resets

[stuck imp]

Is it worth to buy specialized cores from the medal shop to be exchanged for UR bulins?

[cobalt robin]

Yes you should buy those every month

[stuck imp]

Ah okay thanks! I forgot to buy before the reset

Also, I only have NJ as my UR ship for now, is it a good idea to max LB her or are there any other better ships I should wait for

[cobalt robin]

keep your special cores, nj not worth using bullins on (same with the other perma urs) buy bullins when you need em

arguably vanguard and shinano could be worth using bullins on but that's also if you've got too many cores to spare

[stuck imp]

I see i see, thank u

[cobalt robin]

September will be new ur so you'll need the bullins

[stuck imp]

Okie

[south locust]

Yo someone knows which collab skins are limited?

[tropic tusk]

All Collab skins are

[wind oxide]

All collab skins are limited

[tropic tusk]

They will only show up if the Collab happens again

[red hawk]

kinda sucks that they don't keep the skins available but I'm sure it's a licensing thing

[tropic tusk]

Most likely it is

[south locust]

ok but the wiki for the rerun of the first collab event says Bremerton and Elbing skisn are not

[red hawk]

that's always the issue with collabs in these games

[tropic tusk]

Those aren't collab ships

[south locust]

ok then how do I know which ones ARE

[red hawk]

look at the event thing?

[wind oxide]

those which are not orginally from the game and from other game/anime are collabs

[tropic tusk]

Just click on event ship one by one

[robust nymph]

muse ships dont give tech?

[tropic tusk]

Nope they don't

[robust nymph]

damn sad

[tropic tusk]

Fyi little ship also don't

[red hawk]

those are the collabs for the events, Yumia top, Ryza bottom

I think collabs are the only ones not named after ships?

[south locust]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-im-poor-help-me-im-poor-broke-im-broke-gif-11424715947136633522

thank you ngl that's a lot of skins to buy

[red hawk]

tbh only one of those ships is really worth using

[robust nymph]

which one was agir’s gun?

[red hawk]

Yumia is decent and Nina is ok

[cobalt robin]

agir gun?

[robust nymph]

.

[wind oxide]

305mm

[robust nymph]

ty, ill also get 25 development today, maybe i can start using her

[cobalt robin]

I would rather get saiun or bf tbh (unless you have plenty of em)

[robust nymph]

for agir?

i need a gun for her lol

[cobalt robin]

those are planes so not on agir lol

[robust nymph]

i already got 20 as well

[cobalt robin]

Not necessarily a need

[cobalt robin]

20 305mm prints?

[robust nymph]

yup

thats why i bought 5 more now

do i give her the 105mm until i get an other staag

i also am close to get an other twin40mm, not sure what would be best on her

[cobalt robin]

Staag is for backline

Give her the twin 105

40mm bofors would be better

[forest palm]

understand you need to specify what you mean when you say 40mm bofors

[cobalt robin]

I've talked to her abt quad 40mm bofors before so it's pretty self-explanatory

[forest palm]

again you could be talking about STAAG, Hayzemayer, Quad, or Sextuple

[cobalt robin]

and again I've talked to her abt it already

[wind hazel]

only weirdos call staag, haze, sextuple with any other name

[cobalt robin]

Yep

[forest palm]

it's also weird to call Quad Bofors, "40mm Bofors"

since 40mm Bofors is absolutely generic

[wind hazel]

what's important is that komi understands it

[robust nymph]

what if i get the twin40mm bofors, is that better at that point

[cobalt robin]

It ain't that deep bruh 😭✌🏻

[cobalt robin]

That's also for backline

[wind hazel]

[warped acorn]

is there stats of this month challenge?

[cobalt robin]

Hazemeyer and Staag are for backlines

[wind hazel]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/august/

[robust nymph]

so for independence do i give her twin40mm or staag

[forest palm]

3rd year in a row we're running these CMs, right?

[wind hazel]

2nd i think

[cobalt robin]

any will do, Staag is better since it gives 5 extra hit stat, prioritize that for bbs

[robust nymph]

alright ty

[forest palm]

Hit is largely a beneficial stat that improves your overall damage, especially on you Main Fleet ships

[robust nymph]

what if my cv does more damage than my bb, do i give it to cv then

[cobalt robin]

give your staag to bb first

[dusty ember]

Hi guys I reach the level 15 in the game and still can't see all the skins

Someone know what I can do to buy the skin of atelier

[cobalt robin]

you might've not downloaded the skins recourses

Try redownloading the game

[dusty ember]

@cobalt robin I already do it 2 times

I start to think my country it's the problem but I can find information on google

[cobalt robin]

maybe you have l2d checked at the top right

atelier skins aren't l2d

[dusty ember]

With l2d I see 4

Without like 20 skins

[boreal wagon]

i think i was wrong when i said below 15 and seems to actually be below or equal to 15 so they should show up when you reach 16

[cobalt robin]

[dusty ember]

@boreal wagon oh maybe now I need to reach 1 level more what's the way to do it faster campaign??

[boreal wagon]

just progress the game as normal

[wind hazel]

f2p method=play the game
p2w method=buy commander pack

[cobalt robin]

Was it lvl 70 or 80

[wind hazel]

there's like multiple lol

[vast juniper]

Is there somewhere where I can see which Elite ships drop in which event map since the wiki is not working? I need to decide which one to farm

[cobalt robin]

No I mean the one that instantly puts you up to like commander lvl 70

[wind hazel]

lv70 one puts you to lv70, isnt it

[wind oxide]

♿

[cobalt robin]

no it's a seperate pack

[wind hazel]

then idk, im f2p

[wind hazel]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/碧蓝海事局炼金术士与天际交汇之塔活动专题

[dusty ember]

I don't think spend money on skins but today I read about gfl2 skins gacha that's why I don't wanna spend more money in that game instead buy skins here in azur lane sorry for the shitty English

[cobalt robin]

5$, 200 purple exp books, 4 bullins (gold and purple each, immediately lvl 70 and shit tone of gear) 💀💀💀

[boreal wagon]

there is a the pack that sets your commander level to 70 (if you arent already) and then there are packs from level 10 to level 80 that give you various goods (but they dont give you commander levels they require a certain level)

[cobalt robin]

For only 5

[wind hazel]

this is not a f2p like me would understand

[cobalt robin]

I'm not f2p anymore since I bought this cruise pass 😔😔✌🏻

[dusty ember]

Really everything for 5?

[cobalt robin]

yea

[vast juniper]

wonderful, thanks!

[cobalt robin]

It's basically a cheat

[red hawk]

yeah I did the commander bundle one one account and not on the other, my other is still in the mid 40's my main is 76

you will absolutely hit walls with campaign locking you on your commander level

[sharp echo]

any good?

[dusty ember]

@cobalt robin sorry but is like the genshin impact moon subscription or it's only 1 time purchase

[sharp echo]

ok i will farm this stage instead

[cobalt robin]

It's not a monthly pack, we have a monthly pack that's 7.99

daily 1 cube, 200 oil and 100 coins

and 500 gems after purchase

[red hawk]

how much is the battle pass? 9.99?

[cobalt robin]

Yep

[serene cloud]

[red hawk]

im debating it

[dusty ember]

I'm farming right now but I gonna check that is cheap but maybe it's more in AUD

[red hawk]

I just feel like this game gates you so much on how much you can play as f2p

[boreal wagon]

i will be a different price in AUD because of conversions but it also will be simply due to taxes but itll still hover around 5 USD

[wind hazel]

it's not that bad

[red hawk]

run a couple stages, guess we're done cause of morale or oil

[cobalt robin]

Al scams me, normally usd should be lower converted to € but it's more 😔

[red hawk]

I don't understand how I'm ever gonna get another fleet levelled

[boreal wagon]

keep in mind that the prices in game are pre-tax

[red hawk]

I'm constantly unable to do more missions

[serene cloud]

i just recently spent for a 2nd floor dorm only for morale farming and stuff (since i was stupid b4 and spend on other stuff xddd)

[red hawk]

logged in for the day, and I'm already out of oil and can't do anything

[rapid shard]

2nd floor is just morale right? No xp gains?

[cobalt robin]

Yea

It's faster tho

[serene cloud]

endgame just doing opsi for the most part and do event, the game is not one and done, its a casual game and progresss being spread out

yep for your mob fleet when you farm an event

[cobalt robin]

end game is raising a child

[dusty wigeon]

So medal shop this month is bb and cruisers.. for a extremely new account what if any would be a good pick?

[serene cloud]

im still world 13, too lazy to grind upto w14 and 15

[robust nymph]

the game gatekeeps you even if you are not f2p unless you literally spend your paycheck

[red hawk]

I'm thinking about grabbing hood?

[serene cloud]

[robust nymph]

also im at 264 cubes and still no serri glaus.. do i just give up to be sure for next ur event

[cobalt robin]

gear is gatekept for everyone since you can't p2w that

[rapid shard]

I hit 9 finally and ran out of health at the boss. Is this where I need a proper 2nd team finally to clear mobs?

[serene cloud]

you literally cant p2w gear

the only thing you can do is grind opsi, im grinding opsi for some rainbow gear

[cobalt robin]

that's what I said

[dusty ember]

You need to pay tax in Google play too

5 plus tax ?

[boreal wagon]

you need to pay both VAT and whatever tax google imposes at the time (the latter of which changes randomly)

[wind oxide]

For an account extreme-lee new, pick hood 🐲

[boreal wagon]

prices in game just show as whatever base price it is

[rapid shard]

And also for retro on unicorn once I complete that final modernization spot she's fully done right? First unit im retroing and will have final piece tomorrow for it when hards reset

[red hawk]

yeah

she also changes her ability when you retro her, which is even better

[rapid shard]

It keeps the levels I've put into them right?

[red hawk]

yep.

[dusty ember]

@boreal wagon I see the tax it's included in the price here

[red hawk]

and your MLB is unchanged even though she becomes an SR

[boreal wagon]

yes but AL wont show you the price with it included in game, google will tell you before you confirm

[dusty wigeon]

So Hood. For my still learning self what does she bring?

[rapid shard]

Nice. Was worried there was gonna be a extra "wall" of requirements to retro.

[wind oxide]

She's decently good overall
try craft her augment

[dusty ember]

Guys it's supposed azur lane it's competence with last origin??

[red hawk]

my brain just melted

[dusty ember]

@boreal wagon thanks you're right

[robust nymph]

ranked mode competitive arc

[rapid shard]

Working on setting up proper teams now that I can't just blast throu with just levels. For vanguard tank. I got Anchorage so does she fill that better or just as good as retro Portland? Already got her way more leveled than port atm and pushing through campaign

[robust nymph]

Anchorage is way better you can use her for fleet 1 tank and portland for the other

[rapid shard]

Cool. I seen her on the fleetbuilding guide and its one of the few units I actually have from those lists

[robust nymph]

what chapter are you at

[dusty ember]

It's true

[rapid shard]

Just started 9-1 and single fleet isnt quite cutting it too clear boss

[serene cloud]

yes 2 fleet 1 mob and 1 bossing

[rapid shard]

For bossing setup. On backline I plan on using new jersey as flag with MLB mass. What would be a good third option? Another BB or support CV?

[robust nymph]

you can go back and forth between 2 squares for 20-25 times and you will get a window offering you help, click yes and it will skip the puzzle

damn i remember i was waiting the month reset to get some of these.. but i dont remember which one, what is usually recommend getting?

[cobalt robin]

or just do the puzzle in less time

[robust nymph]

i have 20 of the bottom left, maybe that one?

[robust nymph]

some puzzles were absolute hell (i cant say the other word i had in mind) and thank god theres the skip

[cobalt robin]

get 2 champy guns and 1 flandre

[robust nymph]

i have no idea what you just said

[cobalt robin]

Left row top is flandre gun and last row first one is champy gun

Get 2 champy guns and 1 flandre

/protocore

[odd root]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[cobalt robin]

you can see the names "aka champy gun"

[robust nymph]

think the guy was asking about opsi not protocore (lmao)

[cobalt robin]

I wait u thought you replied to the guns lmao

[cobalt robin]

Yea didn't see

[woeful sluice]

why can't I enter this zone? I know the other zones next to it are not secured, but I just watched a guy on YT straight up going to the zone with a daily mission logo without having the zones next to it secured

[robust nymph]

these 2 right? i hate i cant click on them to see full name unless you have the mats

[cobalt robin]

There isn't, you can try your luck on yt but either figure it out or wait it out

[soft raft]

"Secure nearby zones"
You can bypass this by spending 5k oil on a item in the OpSi voucher shop

[woeful sluice]

is it worth it?

[cobalt robin]

Its very much a convenience thing, up to you

[soft raft]

Up to you

[woeful sluice]

Thank you

[cobalt robin]

you should also get tenrai after that, will cost 3k protocore

[robust nymph]

the one you can buy 50 a month?

[cobalt robin]

It's only 1

The ur gear doesn't reset

[robust nymph]

also im kinda losing it, i got the pr3 one, the top left one which pr is it from?

[cobalt robin]

You can click on details and see what the gear it has

Not details, info

[robust nymph]

aight yeah got both of them

for the tenrai its 3k currency total?

[cobalt robin]

yep

[robust nymph]

so both guns i just got are for bbs?

[cobalt robin]

yes, ap bb guns

[robust nymph]

so like on zenker/warspite whats better?

[cobalt robin]

It's content/boss dependant

[robust nymph]

are they both better than the purple gun in all scenarios?

[cobalt robin]

Probably not against light

AP against heavy and medium and HE against light

there's also sap

[red hawk]

thats right where I'm at, my first fleet carried a lot but it's just too much at this point, I can't clear the boss with no damage

slowly working other ships up, but I have crap for vanguard ships

[rapid shard]

Lack of proper vanguard setup is hurting me as well. Just struggling to find right combo

[red hawk]

my single fleet was at least able to clear all event stuff, so I'm using it to farm levels now

[cobalt robin]

you don't need a proper "combo" just have your vanguard ships at the correct positions, it does help if you have good ships

[red hawk]

I'm also trying to limit the number of SR's I'm using.

[wind hazel]

what fleet are you two using? 9-1 is still easy to solo fleet

[onyx flame]

whats the usual amount of coins to spend on coin up ship (im constantly broke af )

[red hawk]

literally the base fleet + sara instead of LI

[wind hazel]

gear issue then

[red hawk]

then again I haven't attempted 9-1 since farming event so I may be ok now

[soft raft]

And possibly limit break issue as well

[cobalt robin]

maybe skill issue

[red hawk]

I have all full MLB and unicorn refit

[soft raft]

Cuz that shit should not be struggling that hard

[wind hazel]

10bp a day

[red hawk]

but I haven't tried it since I've upgraded a bit including the retro

I was ignoring campaign to farm event

[robust nymph]

for me i just tried to have a 2nd fleet that was enough to let me do boss ship with 1 bullet remaining on 1st fleet, it worked out even with subpar ships and gear until ch11

[soft raft]

Why the 1 ammo tho
If your fleet is properly built, out of ammo means nothing outside of like W14+

[robust nymph]

well new players dont have properly built fleets

[cobalt robin]

I mean you do less dmg with no ammo

[red hawk]

50% less damage is significant when you're not optimized.

it takes noticeably longer to clear bosses and such

I know there are things I could absolutely do, but i'm trying to weigh the advantages of saving resources versus spending on stuff that's a temporary bandaid

[wind hazel]

are you still using +6 gear

[red hawk]

some above it

I'm trying to get some of the gear replaced that isn't as good I think I should make a thread with my fleet and armaments

and see what yall think I could do for now

[sinful socket]

what do yall recommend for Gouden aux ? Repair Tool and High Performance Radar?

or Repair and High Performance Hydraulic?

[robust nymph]

for mobbing is warspite or zenker better or doesnt really change much?

[woven star]

Toolkit + eva stats ( Rudder if you can)

[wind hazel]

hydraulic+toolkit/eva

[red hawk]

Gear Recommendation starter fleet

[wind hazel]

zenker has nicer mobbing barrage

[robust nymph]

it still looks like that barrage does 0 dmg but maybe its just an impression lol

if i give tirpitz better guns does it increase her TRP stat? im trying to pass the unusally high trp requirement for this hard mode stage

[wind hazel]

here we go again

[wind oxide]

<@&460646206851252224>

[wind hazel]

no it doesn't

[wind oxide]

Pin come here do your job

[robust nymph]

i also forgot how hard is hard mode, 11-3 hard mode comparable to 12-3 normal?

i might throw in there ayanami just to pass trp check

[wind hazel]

much harder

[robust nymph]

[wind hazel]

why not do 12-3

[robust nymph]

huh nah im just progressing on my hard mode stages

need to do 11-3, was on 11-2 for a while to farm sr retro items.
think i should also start w13 normal, im sure i can get through it easily with my current ships and gear

[wind hazel]

wdym by progress... you finished w12 right? why not do w12H, why stay at w11H

[robust nymph]

i havent done it yet, furthest stage i cleared on hard is 11-2

[wind hazel]

sir, hard mode progression is from your normal lol

[sinful socket]

if you have good AA, you can get through W13

[wind oxide]

Ehh you can skip stages in hard

[wind hazel]

you don't need to do 11-3H 11-4H to go to 12H

[robust nymph]

i remember it gives some gems or rewards for 3 starring each hard mode stage

it was either 3 star or clear

[wind oxide]

I mean it's unlocked once you 3 starred all stages of a certain chapter

[ivory pawn]

Just some retrofit prints and cogs.

[sinful socket]

it gives retrofit bp for hard mode clear

[wind hazel]

yes but you can come back for them later, you're missing the core data from 12H

[ivory pawn]

Worth getting eventually, but unless you need that specific retrofit print asap you can save for later.

[robust nymph]

fair enough

[wind hazel]

it's not many, but it adds up if you stay too long lol

[robust nymph]

should work for 12-1 hard?

[wind hazel]

no better cv than graf?

[robust nymph]

illustrious lvl120 is the only other option

without augment

[turbid marsh]

you can't get her augment? lack the resources?

[wind hazel]

lusty...

[robust nymph]

yeah i have 15 rocks but crafting illustrious when i know im never gonna use her again in 2 weeks.. not sure how id feel about it

[turbid marsh]

i see. aug not going to be that helpful in w15 support fleet

[wind hazel]

nah dont craft it, lusty herself is kinda shit

[robust nymph]

74 oil cost each battle.. now i remember while i was being lazy with hard mode

[spare harbor]

Which battleship from shop is worth buying

[forest palm]

don't you get cog chips after a point from HM rewards

[robust nymph]

a single mob ship in, im cooked

[wind oxide]

I knew you'd get crushed

[robust nymph]

i wasnt looking maybe auto made my aya eat every single torp

[forest palm]

considering their AA options, the ships they're using aren't kitted for AA it's not all to surprising

well Sandy is but she can't do all that work alone

[wind hazel]

agir needs more level tbh

[forest palm]

that too

[robust nymph]

yeah she is also development 24

but i think i got unlucky, my unicorn heal is out healing the dmg my ships are taking now and im fighting 3 stars mobs

i must have eaten every torp for real

[forest palm]

do you know about level advantage?

[eternal moth]

Aya's pretty squishy, not sure why you'd put her in a progression mob fleet

[robust nymph]

not really, what i know is that the higher your level is the more your stats scale? and i guess it goes also the opposite?

[viscid swift]

No

[robust nymph]

honestly youre right idk why i did that, kinda didnt pay attention

[viscid swift]

Every level you have over the enemy you just take 2% less damage and deal 2% more damage up to 50%

[eternal moth]

And vice versa

[viscid swift]

It also goes the other way if you're under leveled

[robust nymph]

oh thats easier than i thought, i see ty

but yeah i think i got insanely unlucky with the first mob ship, now im full hp

[forest palm]

just avoid red mobs and possibly CV mobs

[robust nymph]

red mobs? cv mobs? feel like i should know what youre saying but i dont

if you mean 3 star mobs yeah just this time im clearing everything for the star

[warped acorn]

does switching meowofficers in opsi also cost ap too if needed?

[wind oxide]

CV mob
if the mob has three triangles(three triangles are red) they're harder mobs
two is medium, one is standard

[robust nymph]

and what makes cv mobs harder?

[wind oxide]

Ehh you'd have to do the fleet reconnaisance for that and it resets every day

plen

[warped acorn]

oh damn

[wind hazel]

more planes lol

your acv is red and your aa isn't the best, so you wanna avoid them

[empty bloom]

Who’s worth

[fathom crag]

What ships should I get from medal shop?

[ivory pawn]

Every server has a different selection of hull types, which hulls does your server have?

[wind hazel]

BB- Hood, Tirpitz, rest for faction tech
CV- Enterprise, rest for faction tech
CA- no priority, only for faction tech
CL- San Diego, Sirius, rest for faction tech
DD- Kazagumo, rest for faction tech
SS- U-96

[fathom crag]

Oh rly?

[robust nymph]

unrelated but how come this person can choose in between so many and i literally have a single ship in this exchange shop (that i already own)

[fathom crag]

Give me a sec I’ll ss

[red hawk]

im assuming hood since I got enty from last one

is what I'll be wanting

I don't think any of the others are in my shop this round

[viscid swift]

not all the hull types have the same amount of ships you can choose from

[robust nymph]

is it a rotation every month or rng every month?

why..

[viscid swift]

ask the devs

[ivory pawn]

Mori went and listed all the hull types and their recommendations. Since you’ve got CL and CV, and already have Enterprise, it’s between San Diego and Sirus for CL. CV you just grab one for tech. My vote’s for Shoukaku or Ryuuhou.

[wicked obsidian]

Hay, When's the weekly reset ?

[tame jungle]

monday

[wicked obsidian]

I guess I have 2 more days for my weekly task...

[robust nymph]

you can do them in like an hour

[exotic vine]

hey guys which ones between these two should i use for agir

[wind hazel]

top

[cobalt robin]

what corrosion abyssal guarantees ur ords?

[wind oxide]

what ords t3/t2/t1?

[cobalt robin]

En Moment

[wind oxide]

t3 i think corr 4-6

[cobalt robin]

Ur ords

[warped acorn]

is kazagumo good?
if its good what is it good for

[wind oxide]

Yes 4 to 6 corr for UR ords

[cobalt robin]

c6 abyssal is apparently a guaranteed ur ord

[wind oxide]

not really

[wind hazel]

for her skill ARA, buff CV, and usually fits as 3rd IJN ship for Shinano

[warped acorn]

so its used for cv fleet right

[cobalt robin]

well someone said it here, haven't tried it yet tho

[wind hazel]

usually yes

[cobalt robin]

Nvm it's gold

[wind oxide]

lol

[cobalt robin]

Is shoukaku's augment still bugged

[plain saffron]

wdym tried, it's in the rewards list isn't it

[cobalt robin]

I meant tried as in "cleared" to see if it's a guaranteed drop

[wind oxide]

it is

[hollow sail]

it's guaranteed

it's not a UR ord guaranteed it's a gold

there are no guaranteed UR ords other than the one in the shop

[cobalt robin]

yes I know now, I kinda just remembered reading ur for some reason

[hollow sail]

in fact i don't think UR ords can drop at all, i think not even cat nodes can give it (but they can give UR plan and UR protoplate)

[cobalt robin]

😔

electronics and ords are the death of me

[exotic vine]

should i max lb for agir first or unzen first

[hollow sail]

one doesn't interfere with the other

agir is coinable research, unzen is UR bulin. no actual conflict, just need some gold coins

[cobalt robin]

Yea those 2 don't really correlate

[hollow sail]

it honestly doesn't feel that bad because the UR ord gear is either not crucial or not needed in high amounts all things considered. well i would say the minmax pain for newer player might increase once plygun hits the gear lab though

getting a bunch just to have 20 more FP on your BBs

[cobalt robin]

well not just ur ords, gold ords too

and me not having lvl 30 sr cats is also aids

[undone plover]

Are u prepping flapjacks for ch15
Honestly the new aa plane is at least cheap and reduces flapjack need

[rapid eagle]

Chat
Is there a way to speed up the process of grinding guild tokens

[undone plover]

Not really
Weekly missions daily contribution and monthly op

[hollow sail]

guild tokens become a nonissue pretty quick

[undone plover]

If u are not in an active guild join an active one

[rapid eagle]

Nono it’s me and my friend thats leading a guild
It’s me from yesterday

[dark terrace]

hello

[rapid eagle]

Buddy needs 70 more

[undone plover]

For the mission next time take the one that asks to defeat 300 enemies
Not the victory
It is faster
And if u are low on members make sure u restart the mission after you finish yours once

[cobalt robin]

I'm not even done with w14

Enemy subs keep killing my backline

I think I have to invest in subs a bit, who do i use

Kenny

[rain vine]

for subs, you just bring a hedgehog on a vanguard unit and an asw plane aux on unicorn

[cobalt robin]

I don't think I have a asw plane

[wind hazel]

craft one

[cobalt robin]

which one and where

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Gannet

gear lab

[cobalt robin]

and which subs should I use

[wind hazel]

47 96 and idk

[hollow sail]

37 or 556 meta

i guess it doesn't matter too much

[cobalt robin]

what abt 552? I thought she was good

[quaint tapir]

dies easily

[wind hazel]

not good for campaign

[cobalt robin]

😔

[quaint tapir]

very good when she isn't dying, which is often

[rapid summit]

New Jersey or Bismarck zwei as the flagship?

[quaint tapir]

96 37 and 47 is basically the best general use sub fleet you can make rn, with 552 for not-campaign wolfpack

[cobalt robin]

I don't see myself using subs in opsi so I guess she'll collect dust

[quaint tapir]

thing with subs is that a good sub fleet wants 3x SSRs and as far as investments go, it's an absolute ass one to make since subs are basically irrelevant outside of minmax opsi & w14-15

[cobalt robin]

It's a pain leveling em 😔

[quaint tapir]

better off just letting them collect dust until you roll enough dupes through gacha misses vs. dropping burins & coin into them when they do nothing but sit around most of the time

[cobalt robin]

I wish subs were cool and actually practical in al

[quaint tapir]

they're practical they just cost oil and you shouldn't have trouble clearing most content without them... so why spend the extra oil and investment when spending the resources and time levelling tanks, supports, etc. is so much more valuable

[cobalt robin]

well I meant like I wish they were more important, like their irl counterparts

[quaint tapir]

they would be if they didn't eat so much oil

[cobalt robin]

😔

[hollow sail]

devs could easily spice things up and change up some meta fights so we can use subs and cats but it's easier to be lazy

[quaint tapir]

they also don't count for any PR/DR grinding outside of faction tech, and subs give soooo little tech for the investment

[undone plover]

They really help a lot in later campaign and in hard arbiter fights
Subs are far from useless

[quaint tapir]

and that's unlikely to change since weegee isn't really releasing fictional subs for AL to collab over

[cobalt robin]

I'm a huge fan of german subs but in al they just feel so underwhelming

[hollow sail]

sub leveling as a whole is needlessly painful also, to the point where people just shove them in dorms for ages most of the time

i grinded one sub to 200 affinity, probably never again

[cobalt robin]

Maybe later they have their uses but up till now they were pretty much useless

[quaint tapir]

the only sub-focused "daily" raid being a weekly doesn't help there either

[undone plover]

They would help with your ch14 clear

[wind hazel]

bro you have 0 MLB KMS sub of course they are useless to you now

[plain saffron]

if the subs are useless then idk what i am

[rapid eagle]

How to change it
he says it’s stuck on winning 15 times

[plain saffron]

you can't until next week

[cobalt robin]

Even if they were mlb I wouldn't have found a use for them in earlier chapters

[undone plover]

U cant change it now
I meant next week pick the other mission that says defeat 300 enemies

[plain saffron]

yeah because earlier chapter is easy

[wind hazel]

that's true but same can be said for a lot of ships

[undone plover]

Subs are recommended in ch14+ and hard arbiter clear
That is when u should raise them

At least farm the bidder pre req torp and get their gear from core shop
U need 3 months for the aux gear

[quaint tapir]

the game throws subs at you pretty early and then basically doesn't want you to actually invest in them until ch14. they're the true noob trap

[plain saffron]

there's maint yesterday?

[undone plover]

I dont think so

[cobalt robin]

snorkel and something else was it

I forgor

[undone plover]

Snorkel and pressure resistant hull

[quaint tapir]

snorkel x3, hp aux x3

[hollow sail]

the game also used to have a silly thing called S.O.S that no one bothered to do so the devs made it extra easy to get sub gear

[plain saffron]

huh so just patch for the meta and skin rental

i think people would do it if only devs added all the QoL other chapters get to it

[cobalt robin]

will take ages 😔

[plain saffron]

[undone plover]

That is why I recommend u start now

[quaint tapir]

another one of those noob trap things, snorkels & pressure hulls are core data only and you need BB shells & useful planes 10x more

[cobalt robin]

well I got nothing else to buy so might as well

[undone plover]

In 3 months u might want to do ch15 and u will have the gear ready at least
If not everything else will be ready and u would have to wait on subs

Also dorm your subs and start upgrading their skills

Unless u have other prio for dorm and academy

[cobalt robin]

Oh yea they have skills

[wind hazel]

affinity grind them too

[plain saffron]

i don't think snorkel and hulls count as noob traps are those

[cobalt robin]

Yea some other ships first

[undone plover]

They are noob traps if u buy them month 1

[wind hazel]

misplaced priority more than noob trap

[undone plover]

After ch12 depending on prios u should consider submarines

[hollow sail]

well by that metric a lot of the core shop can be considered a noob trap

[plain saffron]

then everything in shop is noob trap

[quaint tapir]

they absolutely are when BB aux are significantly more valuable early on & you need at least a couple of competent opsi fleets to even start farming bidder torps (or anything else for that matter)

[hollow sail]

honestly i see newbies go for other stuff way more than snorkels

[wind hazel]

oxytorp

[hollow sail]

like mid guns or especially the planes

[plain saffron]

no like there's a lot of other stuffs there why only those 2 are noob trap

[cobalt robin]

I got missile and 4gods

[plain saffron]

kids named oxytorp

[undone plover]

Do u have breguets as well?
Getting 2 is recommended unless u are swimming in wyverns

[quaint tapir]

it's just a noob trap to invest burins & core data into subs before getting your campaign mob/boss fleets fully set up & at least a general idea of your opsi boss fleet gear

[cobalt robin]

I have 1

Can get another this month

[undone plover]

Then u can hold off
Buy the other one when u need it

[cobalt robin]

Bought it end of last month so I'm sitting at basically 0 core data

[hollow sail]

you want at least 3 wyvern going into W15

[cobalt robin]

😔

[undone plover]

2 wyvern 2 breg should work tbh

For 4 CV

[wind hazel]

i guess it depends

some like amagi may want another

[cobalt robin]

Parallel torps on boss fleet CVs too?

[undone plover]

Parallel torps in campaign always
Implacable can run converging for herself
But honestly in ch15 u still want wyvern/breg for the AA intercception

[stark quiver]

How much AP do I gain in 8 hours

[loud scarab]

which auxes of the rerun are worth to craft again?

[undone plover]

48 I think

[cobalt robin]

don't have impla 😔 and am using glorM so I'll need an extra tb

[quaint tapir]

crystal ice bomb is the only one that's useful outside of the collab ships iirc

[stark quiver]

I overcapped 48 already 😭

[stark quiver]

Bubble bullet also good

[hollow sail]

wirbel has seen use in pvp

well just try to get everything if you can help it

[stark quiver]

All of them

[quaint tapir]

is it? i guess maybe for meta/pvp

[stark quiver]

It’s just a damage aux

[cobalt robin]

So my ur plans should go towards another wyvern?

[quaint tapir]

yea but BBs get shells & frontlines generally want hp/eva aux stuff unless they're running oxytorp no?

[hollow sail]

do you have only one

[cobalt robin]

Yes

[hollow sail]

then i would say yes

[cobalt robin]

Alright

[quaint tapir]

universal UR plans should go towards getting 3x 406s for your BB first (-1 if you have lion gun)
then 2x wyvern, then w/e

i think wyvern is the only gear lab to use UR plane mats rn so you're generally better off just letting those accumulate a bit while you farm out BB stuff

[cobalt robin]

so I'll have to pray for ur plane plans 😔

[hollow sail]

the above is alright also do you care more about your campaign adventures or your light bossing? your choice

[quaint tapir]

not rly just not waste universals when you need a LOT of gun plans compared to plane ones in the long run

[cobalt robin]

I have lion gun so at least only 2 instead

Is lion gun best against light or or 406

[quaint tapir]

they're both about =

[hollow sail]

lion gun is strictly superior

[cobalt robin]

lion gun better cause it's lion gun

[hollow sail]

but not by much

powercreep bote comes with powercreep gun

[undone plover]

Getting 3 NJ gun for newbie is not a good idea
NJ gun is only like 10% better at +10
And u dont have 1080 plates for 3 NJ gun

[dark terrace]

Hi guys! I would like to know if you have any suggestions for improving the fleet (Ent/ Uni/ NewJ/ Balt/ Hel and Alan.S)?

[hollow sail]

faer does have a point

[viscid swift]

I would beg to disagree

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ak-0fqLWBpShAlPY9i_lL5MW22DpUGh81k-EWgHd7J0/edit?usp=sharing

[undone plover]

Get 1 nj gun after 2 wyverns
Or get it first if u really really need anti light dmg for some reason

[cobalt robin]

I infact do not have that many plates

[undone plover]

U get ~120-180 plates per month depending on what u get from guild shop
And maybe 30-40 selectors on average

[hollow sail]

we are all lacking plates

[cobalt robin]

but I still shouldn't use the universal plans for plane right?

[cobalt robin]

general plates

[undone plover]

I recommend 2 wyvern tbh
No reason not to use
If u stay in ch12 and dont care about campaign u can ignore wyvern I guess

[cobalt robin]

I wanna push compaign so I'll get another wyvern

[quaint tapir]

thing is breguets work perfectly fine until w15, and i'd argue getting your opsi fleets up to par is significantly more valuable than bumrushing w15 when opsi is how you get the gear to even tackle w15 to begin with lol

[undone plover]

But the purple gun is fine for opsi tbh

[cobalt robin]

I can clear everything in opsi except hard arbiter

[viscid swift]

considering that the NJ gun is only about 12% ish better than the Mk6 at +10

[hollow sail]

there's a huge difference between a wyvern and a breguet

meanwhile there's almost no difference between a bregret and a barracuda until W15

[viscid swift]

if you can't +13 it I see no reason to make the Mk7 at all

[undone plover]

Both are valid options anyway
It is just that nj gun is more expensive because it needs plates to shine

[viscid swift]

and the Wyvern is useful in pretty much all mobbing including W14

[cobalt robin]

I'm not too interested in hard arbiter currently, I wanna push compaign instead

[undone plover]

And also helps in ch12 farming with bad ships

[quaint tapir]

breguet will handle w14 just fine and opsi is where you're farming mats
imo opsi fleets > w15 campaign fleet in terms of focus but that's just my experience

[viscid swift]

where do you need Mk7s for in OpSi is the real question

[undone plover]

I would agree with you if we ignore plates
Plates which should go into champy gun first

[wind hazel]

gotta destroy temperance real hard

[viscid swift]

Harbiter is medium and heavy armor 2/3s of the time anyway

[quaint tapir]

same tier of content you need wyverns for, just the opsi content gives actual mats

[serene cloud]

what's ur gear to priotize in gear lab, wyvern or sprearfish

[cobalt robin]

next month I'll have a 2nd champy gun 😔

[wind hazel]

wyvern

[undone plover]

Spearfish is for boomers

[hollow sail]

wyvern is more useful

[viscid swift]

I would argue that OpSi is a ot easier than W14 and W15

[wind oxide]

I'm a boomer

[cobalt robin]

YES

[viscid swift]

because your margin of error is much higher

[quaint tapir]

they use different plans so it literally doesn't matter
spearfish is just overcosted and you're not gonna get them before wyverns anyways

[viscid swift]

you have heal packs, can leave and heal in port, etc

you can get multiple attempts at stuff whereas campaign, if you fail you have to start the run over

[cobalt robin]

from my experience opsi has been easier than w14 (but that might me due to me not having enough asw)

[quaint tapir]

opsi should generally be easier than w14, opsi just demands more flexibility

[serene cloud]

i didnt get to w14 yet, but can fully clear opsi (except hard orbiter)

[viscid swift]

enough asw in W14 is the hedghog on a vanguard and fairey gannet on Unicorn

[cobalt robin]

I'm at 14-2 and the same with opsi

[viscid swift]

I rest my case

[static sphinx]

What is the best way to grind XP for the shipyard quests?

[serene cloud]

can i clear w14 with this, am i strong enuf (im a bit lazy xdd)

[cobalt robin]

Have hedgehog at +10, just need to craft the plane 😔

[viscid swift]

okay I retract some of what I said, manual doesn't count

[wind hazel]

need bb, need better vanguards

only need slight fixing and they look ready

[serene cloud]

better vanguards, so i need to replace who for w14

i dont have much bb tho

[viscid swift]

what have you got to work with?

Mob fleet is fine, it's the boss fleet that needs work

[viscid swift]

what limit break is that UvH?

[cobalt robin]

Give me that vanguard 😔😔

[hollow sail]

BB poverty is real

[serene cloud]

not limit at all

oh wait, only 1

[quaint tapir]

objectively yes if you shuffle stuff around
can't say much about the rest but i'd say fuck helena for campaign because her skill is just unreliable enough that if you need it for the boss you're gonna get fucked over 40% of the time and waste all of your oil/time

[cobalt robin]

And I'm here with cv poverty 😔

[serene cloud]

ohhh helena bad, so who do i replace for her

[viscid swift]

can you just post your full dock in a thread

if we're gonna do this may as well do it right

[inland shoal]

That's not really how Helena works unless your boss battle rly only lasts 1 trigger but yeah

[hollow sail]

cope with nagato on boss and just win extra fast

[quaint tapir]

i mean yea but relying on a 60% is still risky as hell even if you're getting 2-3 procs unless your alternatives are just really bad
at least in opsi you can r&r and just go again if she doesn't proc, campaign just gives you a big middle finger lol

[serene cloud]

Full dock

[quaint tapir]

i can't count how many times i've been fucked over by lena failing to proc in campaign at this point

[viscid swift]

I mean, that's not the entire issue though

[inland shoal]

Yeah it's not great
Though if you pay attention you can also just leave and retry for a rather little price to pay in oil

[viscid swift]

one of the big ones is that you really don't wanna sync your main fleet in campaign especially in W14

[inland shoal]

At any rate Helena isn't great in campaign especially the latest stages, no arguing with that

[static sphinx]

I mi have too many

[quaint tapir]

there's that too yea
idk i'm just a campaign helena hater tbh; i only use her in w12 to get her leveled and otherwise she just sits in my meta & opsi teams and does her work there
campaign has a lot of nice alternative options with more survivability & consistency for w14-15

[viscid swift]

I don't think anyone likes Helena for late campaign

[quaint tapir]

nah, she prolly won't be all that great in late campaign until she gets an augment either and she's prolly pretty low on manjuu's priority list for those

[undone plover]

Btw just saw this sry
Cheeky recommends 2 flandre these days + 1 champy I think
Flandre is slightly faster and should in theory be easier to use in meta showdowns to get 4th salvo

[cobalt robin]

I could get another flandre rn

Need 20 prints, should I?

[marsh grail]

[cobalt robin]

For another champy I would only need 8 prints next month tho

[static sphinx]

Any good ways to farm XP for shipyard missions?

[cobalt robin]

grind 12-1 with 3 applicable ships

[static sphinx]

Ok

[quaint tapir]

12-1 with all three mob front/backline of the correct faction(s), and whatever amount you can spare on the boss fleet

[static sphinx]

Problem is that I only have campaign 10-4 unlocked

[quaint tapir]

11-1 is technically a little bit more efficient but no chips/aug mats

[static sphinx]

Ah ok

Thanks, I procrastinated doing campaign a lot

I was only 6-4 a couple weeks back

[quaint tapir]

yea if you only have to 10-4, then 10-4 w/ low threat level is still sufficient, but pushing to at least 11-1 will speed it up a fair bit

[cobalt robin]

faerlein where you at 😔

[static sphinx]

Ok thank you, I have just been only using combat data packs

[quaint tapir]

nooo don't do that, bad bad bad usage of them

[static sphinx]

Oh

[cobalt robin]

Convert those to protocore instead !!!!

[static sphinx]

Oh

[quaint tapir]

convert them to the proto shop mats and use those to get PR/DR gear

[static sphinx]

Ok

I need 3000 Proto for just one pr/dr gear

[quaint tapir]

they're super timegated so any that you use up for xp basically get lost to the void

[static sphinx]

Oh

I may have used a lot

[cobalt robin]

3k for ur, 375 for Sr I think

[static sphinx]

Like a lot

For shipyard xp

[cobalt robin]

I forgor how much exactly for sr

[static sphinx]

No your correct, 375 for sr

[cobalt robin]

[static sphinx]

But are any of sr equipment in the proto shop actually worth it?

[hollow gust]

/protocore
tripke 410mle, bf109 etc

[static sphinx]

Thank you

[cobalt robin]

Yoink

[static sphinx]

Ah si from now on I should convert data packs into cores? Got it

[cobalt robin]

Always

[static sphinx]

Ok

[cobalt rapids]

datapacks and not only
as u can see theres quite alot of protocores u will need just for the recommended tier which is QoLs u wanna have
so u should convert ur catchup aswell

[static sphinx]

I also have 412 blueprint for Odin

[cobalt rapids]

PR1/2/3/5 should all be converted to protocores

[static sphinx]

Ok

But I don’t have Odin yet

[cobalt rapids]

+1DR but since u wasted ur handbooks one then ull need to do more DRs

[cobalt rapids]

then say goodbye to those blueprints aswell then
u need to dev a ship to d30 before u start her catchup and convert it to protocores because otherwise ure forced to use the bps instead of coins
and how do u have 412 odin bps anyway ? are you on pr3 focus ?

[static sphinx]

Yes

[cobalt rapids]

should switch to pr8 asap then

[static sphinx]

Should I increase it?

I was trying to get some pr/3 gear

[cobalt rapids]

ur research focus should be switched to pr8 as the general recommandation

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/research-focus read this

and go to ecgc and read the shipyard guide and how to do ur protocores

[static sphinx]

Thanks

Thank you all for being so helpful, and thank you for helping me correct my mistakes

[cobalt rapids]

no mistake is permanent but some early minmax can have big returns and make ur later experience more enjoyable

[brazen lotus]

Hey lads, recently unlocked agir and shes at dev lvl 15 right now, lvl 50. Should I give up on roon and focus on her instead? Roons maxed fate but no aug

[turbid marsh]

would recommend to keep it until agir dev 30

[forest palm]

a Dev 15 is in no way comparable to a Dev 30+ Roon

[brazen lotus]

Not worth crafting roon augment tho?

[turbid marsh]

roon aug big improvement, would recommend if 30+ them stones

[ivory pawn]

I’d craft it at some point, but it can be a lower priority if your coins are stretched thin.

[forest palm]

considering it's like 20k~ to max a UE I wouldn't really commit to it right now

[brazen lotus]

For sure, cheers

[stark quiver]

Is hinden better or harbin for opsi mob

[cobalt rapids]

overall id take hinden
personally id take neither

[sweet delta]

What's the difference between these two stacks? They're both in my depot

[rose pebble]

How to clear this?

[cobalt rapids]

larsdb also lists two of em with the same contents but diff id so maybe they just did an oopsie

[wind oxide]

Go to yumia map > look bottom right > cores

[cobalt rapids]

tap on core on the event map and level it

[rose pebble]

Thank you 🙏

[sweet delta]

Would both of them count for the open 20 boxes mission?

[cobalt rapids]

i would test but idk where u got both of em in the first place

[chrome lake]

Hey guys any idea when is the purchase bonus gonna reset?

[rain vine]

en anniversary, which should be this month

[eternal basalt]

14th august

[chrome lake]

Ok thank you.

Anyone know how to get Prototype Carrier-Based La-9 do I just get lucky on research 7? Cause in only keep getting blueprints and I can't find it in gear lab

[stark quiver]

get lucky with research
and do goo researches

[last swift]

Is it worth changing anything here?

[chrome lake]

Oh nice. Thanks.

[south python]

for the opsi monthly reset is it better to spend the oil to unlock the map or grind everything out again?

[sweet delta]

Can't tell which is mob and which is boss fleet. And are these fleets for farming or for pushing hard content?
Move Black Rock shooter to the middle where Saratoga is

[sweet delta]

Pay 5000 oil and strategic search the explorable zones over 5-10 hours idk how long it takes.
Vs
Pay no oil and auto 72 explorable zones over the course of the month, tapping at least 7 times per zone.

There is no difference in rewards, just oil vs your time spent

[eternal basalt]

7 times?

[cobalt robin]

Probably how many clicks it takes to enter, use recon etc

took me 6 clicks to select zone, enter, use recon and then auto search

[eternal basalt]

1, enter, 3 use recon, 4 GO

[cobalt robin]

I counted each tap

[stark quiver]

wasting ap

[eternal basalt]

free per hour

[forest palm]

"auto 72 explorable zones"...that what we calling manually inputting commands now?

[timber crow]

guys, in the monthly medal shop, which BB should i buy??

dont really have a BB other than Vanguard

[ivory pawn]

Hood if you need a good BB.
Tirpitz if you want to get a head start on IB tech for FdG/AvP/etc as well as a decent BB.

[shy oracle]

^

[sweet delta]

Show your dock, idk what "really" means and how usable your Vanguard is

[timber crow]

I already retrofitted laffey, now i just need gold plans for unicorn and i can retrofit her

[sweet delta]

I mean dock for what ships you have, not your fleet

[timber crow]

oh lol

[sweet delta]

It seems like Hood is the choice then. Also in the future, don't use UR bulins on the permanent UR ships

And don't pull on heavy or special banner

[timber crow]

save them for limited

only light and event for pulls right?

[cobalt robin]

Yes

2 of each conv tb should be enough right?

[undone plover]

Yes
Some comps use 3-4 saiun but that is advanced stuff and rly niche

[cobalt robin]

I don't wanna craft more saiuns anyway 😔

Also you mentioned 2 flandre over 2 champy, I could get 20 prints for 2nd flandre rn or wait a month for 8 more champy prints

[sharp comet]

how do i get this

[cobalt rapids]

thats just free play

[sharp comet]

with no rewards?

[cobalt rapids]

no rewards after day7

[agile agate]

Can explain what it is?

[cobalt rapids]

check pins

[sweet delta]

Very surprised to not see anyone asking if it's a free ryza in the past 7 days

[undone plover]

Get the cheaper option if u already invested imo
It is not a big diff
Btw if u are on pr8 focus u might want to stop at 2 or at least only upgrade 2 to +13

[undone zinc]

Free ryza? When?

[stark quiver]

never

[cobalt robin]

I'm at 7 still, ig I'll get 2nd champy instead

[cobalt robin]

you missed it

[chrome frigate]

none of these are must haves right? and i can just grab whoever i want

[sweet delta]

You can grab whoever you want, some may have slightly more useful tech stats or faction tech points than others

[chrome frigate]

ok cause i was thinking between jean bart or washington otherwise i wouldve grabbed bismark if i didnt have the UR version already i'll probably grab her next time it shows up in medal

[cobalt robin]

are any of those bbs from sardines empire?

[chrome frigate]

from the selector i showed? No

[cobalt robin]

sadge

[chrome frigate]

eagle union, ironblood, sakura, vichya and royal navy

[cobalt robin]

I'll just grab nagato for Sakura tech

[chrome frigate]

yeah ive just been avoiding craftable ships from there though i should recheck bismark before i pick her up next time
welp she aint getting chose next time

[cobalt robin]

zwei mlb gave me all the ib points I'll ever need

[fallen jay]

Who should I use alongside Bismarck Zwei in my main fleet section for grinding exp for Agir CDC1?

[cobalt robin]

lemme hack into your acc and look at your dock real quick

[rain vine]

whoever needs exp and gives good fleet tech at 120

[cobalt robin]

Otto, z23, regen

[fallen jay]

These are all my iron blood ships. I already us e Zwei and I ll need Unicorn so the fleet can be used as mobbing for max exp gains.

[cobalt robin]

Switch out z23 once she's lvl 120

[fallen jay]

No this is for the Main fleet not vanguard portion

The backliners

[rain vine]

sort by main fleet then

[cobalt robin]

agir main fleet exp? What?

[rain vine]

first exp grind is ironblood main fleet
second exp grind is ironblood vanguards

[fallen jay]

Agir CDC1 sortie and collect 1.2 million exp using Iron Blood Main Fleet ships

[cobalt robin]

no way