gameplay-help

[tropic tusk]

they got spilt into more

i mean this way is better since not everyone has all 6

i am just assuming but this is the most logic answer

[gray sphinx]

I dare you to put "anywhere" into W15

[nova burrow]

Regarding planes: may i ask why the Destroyer is considered garbage? Reload? AA-armament? Because the payload seems alright

[wind hazel]

what makes you think that? that's just not true

[tropic tusk]

?

[nova burrow]

Well they are 1600s, hitting hard?

[wind hazel]

huh?

[crimson glacier]

2 bombs is worse than 3 if you meant btd

[wind hazel]

oh you're talking about BTD1 destroyer lmfao i thought you were talking about DD

[tropic tusk]

oh i get wht ur saying... its pvp same but game goes different

[jaunty vault]

the bombs damage doesn't scale linearly
tldr its just damage

[warped acorn]

is there any events that req oil soon anytime?

[wind hazel]

collab tomorrow

[crimson glacier]

isnt collab just around the corner

[nova burrow]

I mean the explenation with the scaling makes sense, but by the "default" stats it beats a few with more bombs (not the JU and helldiver)

[cobalt robin]

Why even look at destroyer when helldiver exists

[crimson glacier]

helldiver is just so easy to get

and cheaper to upgrade too than gold planes

[cobalt robin]

Helldiver and tenrai are the only dbs you'll use

Unless you have sky raider but that's event locked

[nova burrow]

Well yes ofc but im always thinking about the 20 avi loose

[tropic tusk]

wt ur saying is like why need to eat wagyu when theres normal beef

[cobalt robin]

Normal beef is good, destroyer isn't good

That's a shit analogy

[warped acorn]

oh do collab have the ones like event stages to do

[plain saffron]

20 AVI won't do anything if the bomb miss

[cobalt robin]

Yes

[wind hazel]

bomb weight doesn't scale linearly with damage in AL and the Helldiver's bombs do more damage than the BTD's, and that's before we even start accounting for hit rate

-Cheeky

[warped acorn]

oh nice finally got a reason to not do campaign cuz lazy

[plain saffron]

bomb weight doesn't scale linearly with damage
-samheart564, 2022

[cobalt robin]

No lazy, go do compaign cuh

[wind hazel]

you can look at the numbers here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BombSpread

[tropic tusk]

lazy to do campain but ok to do event? u mean ur bord with campain?

[nova burrow]

So the BTD has a horrible spread? Now that makes the most sense so far

So means even the Firefky hits better?

[wind hazel]

better than btd, worse than helldiver

[narrow kiln]

I have a small question.
It seems to me, or almost every plane from Kursk misses?

[nova burrow]

Well according to that table the ju-87 is even preferable to the helldiver...

[wind hazel]

one is a db another is a tb

[cobalt rapids]

because it is

also conv tb and rockets have assumed hitrates of 100% because of assumed freeze on boss

[nova burrow]

Yeah just noticed after sending - thought table is only about DBs

[soft raft]

20 AVI barely really means much when carriers have upwards of like 600 AVI stat

Raw AVI stat also isn't the only factor for what planes to use, there's other things to consider like the bombs they have

[nova burrow]

Well yeah i considerted that, as mentioned i looked at the base dmg table and according to that 2x1600 doesnt look bad with 20 more avi.
Wasnt aware that planes spread differently too, but like that it makes sense

But with this in mind - and it not being in the table - did i also assumed wrong that the barracuda is the best "easy access" TB?

[cobalt rapids]

gold cuda is typical poverty parallel tb

[nova burrow]

I mean the baguett clearly is superior im aware of that, so are some gear lab ones. But i have alot of bps for the saiun or Ryuusai, are they better than the cuda after all?

[cobalt rapids]

saiun and ryuusei are converging

and breguette is just a slightly faster gold cuda with intercept
in certain situations u wont notice any diff and in others u will

[nova burrow]

So theoretically speaking - the wyvern aside - witch are the upgrades to the cuda?

[cobalt rapids]

wyvern usually
spearfish aswell but not worth crafting
breguette is an upgrade because intercept in campaign is good and u use parallel tbs in campaign
skypirate which isnt worth crafting again
and the np one from pr5 but its slow so sometimes cuda still better

[novel solstice]

For parallel torps, Barracuda is a fine TB for mobbing all the way through endgame content. You sidegrade it to breguette for the intercept in plane hell maps, and you upgrade to wyvern when you can afford it.

[nova burrow]

Well the NP ones i always ignored for their lag of guns
But thanks for now, gotta change my DB fleet now^^

[cobalt rapids]

indeed the lack of guns is also not ideal

[cobalt robin]

Wasn't 3 the limit?

[cobalt rapids]

but it has bigger surface damage than cuda and sometimes slower is better because it can help u stagger
at the end of the day it depends

only wa should have limit of 4

[nova burrow]

Was/be doing that. But im a long way from the wyvern as im just not dropping ur parts even in Danger 6 boss zones x.x

[cobalt robin]

That ss is in 12-4 tho

[cobalt rapids]

thats why i said should, idk what happend on ur screen

[hollow sail]

technically the breguet is an upgrade to the barracuda not a sidegrade, it's just that it's a minor upgrade that won't see a real difference outside of W15. so it's not particularly worth crafting until you're considering tackling W15

[cobalt robin]

imma just restart the game

[plain saffron]

prob somehow glitched and made it use the limit for WA

why fix something that's beneficial

[robust nymph]

after i get 150 prints for agir, can i focus her again? need so much

[inland shoal]

Catch up is one time only

[robust nymph]

oh i see ty

everyday i spend until 7200 coins, but its gonna take a while damn

[inland shoal]

Yeah it takes some time
Still way faster than actual research

[cobalt robin]

I don't wanna get banned or sum 😔✌🏻

I don't even know how it happened cause I didn't even touch wa

[hushed sorrel]

the selling point is that its additional to research

if wanted one could do research and catch up for the same ship

[wind hazel]

[inland shoal]

Not rly, if you had to had to choose between research and coining you would still choose coining (for the old seasons that have coining rn anyways)

And you don't rly wanna have focus on most seasons that have coining anyway

[hushed sorrel]

thats also true, maybe for the gear but not for the blueprints

[whole crypt]

I would choose reseach because coining isn't going anywhere and you can catchup when you have more coins later

if you coin first and push a current series off you just cycle into coining it later

unless you're comparing coining and research the same (old) series

[inland shoal]

Ofc I'm comparing that

Otherwise it would proobably be research cuz coining gets you mostly worse ships and zero gear

[balmy wharf]

Is this upcoming event the first time we’ve had a rerun of collab ships? We’re also getting new ships!

[storm olive]

Who is the crossfleet barrage with the yellow needles from?

[eternal basalt]

DoA, Gridmen

[whole crypt]

SSSS Gridman

[inland shoal]

Isn't that just the RPG interface equip?

[whole crypt]

yeh looks like RPG

[storm olive]

Wait that's what the barrage is from? I was going mad trying to figure who it was, thanks

[inland shoal]

It's kinda funny, first collab rerun we got augments for the old girls to get them up to speed, but now these girls already have augs so they get nothing and remain (somewhat) irrelevant. Also first collab rerun where the old ships don't seem to appear in the new build pool, so F to those who want to get all ships from both runs

[whole crypt]

ryza girls are still fairly decent though

SSSS was more or less just Rikka's gimmick and the rest aged out, DOA was kind of meh before aug except Honoka being a 1:1 healing BB for a bit

[sinful escarp]

they are good enough to run opsi passively. thats the fleet i am using. the ryza girls

[inland shoal]

They're fine yes, but they're mostly irrelevant in the sense that most of them are nothing special anymore

Also Chise had her use especially if you missed other preloaders

[sinful escarp]

yeah, now is the time for UR ships

[inland shoal]

But yeah, I think they're definitely still stronger than the other collab ships on their reruns

[red hawk]

What is the best way to spend my gems early on

[novel solstice]

Run the gems command over in bot spam, it has a good guide.

[gilded ice]

what exactly do you do in opsi after you've gotten all the stars? is there a "best" secured map to farm or something?

[plain saffron]

clear everything monthly for gear lab mats

[gilded ice]

do you not use the excess AP?

[wind hazel]

use to do hidden, stronghold, abyssals. then farm c3 or c5 on repeat

[gilded ice]

gotcha thank you!

[hardy creek]

What is retro warspite good for?

[novel solstice]

She is a solid UR battleship. Deals damage, won't die easily.

I don't believe there is any content for which she is the Absolute Best Possible, so if you trash any ship that isn't the best available, go ahead and trash her.

[hardy creek]

I'm not exactly aiming for the best available , I don't really have any ur Bb besides lion and her. Is she useful for mob fleet for w14 tho?

[cobalt robin]

If you need a 2nd bb you can use her or you could also get fdg

With her augment warspite is a ur bb now but still outclassed by the event ur bbs

[novel solstice]

Oh, she can absolutely handle w14.

IIRC I used her long time ago in my w14 boss fleet, her sniper ability was helpful for killing off the side battleships in the bossfight.

[forest palm]

Corgi exists for when you're lacking UR BBs, she peaks at NJs level so it's not hard to replace her

[cobalt robin]

corgi also cute and always ready for war

[onyx chasm]

Should I MLB all 3 sovets for Nakhi

Dam i'm 1 UR bulin short

Do I wanna MLB Kursk instead or

[tropic tusk]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by mrlar

[onyx chasm]

I'm asking in the sense of is she worth it, like is she a good ship

[wind hazel]

mlb all the purple starting with angel, and belorussiya

[onyx chasm]

I alr got enough

[wind hazel]

only soyuz is relevant

[tropic tusk]

all of those are bad beside ur lol

[wind hazel]

the rest are pretty much tech fodders

[onyx chasm]

Well seeing as I'm 1 UR bulin short of MLB do I just put soyuz on my main fleet and have her watch on the sidelines or what

Like this

[wind hazel]

you might as well level her up

[tropic tusk]

UR are free to level up even at lb0

[wind hazel]

remove your lv125 ships, raise the others

[onyx chasm]

I mean ofc i'm gonna level her up that's why im going 12-1

Also I'm keeping unicorn for the sake of survival

[wind hazel]

you dont need her

[onyx chasm]

I kinda do if I'm gonna be soloing the entire stage with just that one party

[wind hazel]

so make two fleets

raise 12 ships instead of raising just 4 ships

[onyx chasm]

I don't have 12 NP ships...

[wind hazel]

[novel solstice]

If your mob fleet has three ships for giving PR xp, don't worry about your boss fleet not contributing, the mob fleet is doing 6/7ths of the fights.

[wind hazel]

nakhimov PR grind? no italy ship?

[novel solstice]

Nakhimov should only be main fleet ships for the PR xp grind, you don't need to worry about frontliners.

[wind hazel]

i mean that isn't ideal in any way either, only soyuz is gonna contribute

legit gonna take you a week or so to just grind out cdc1

[wind hazel]

why not unlock chkalov

2bb+chkalov is better than running 3 bb in 12-1

[onyx chasm]

If i had her i would use her

[wind hazel]

yes so unlock her

i doubt you have 513bp for nakhimov, right?

so it's pointless unlocking her now anyway, might as well make your life easier

[tropic tusk]

every research ship will tell u either main or vanguard u dont need 12

[viscid swift]

or just use Ceasare because hit tech and grab say Gangut or someone from the merit shop

[onyx chasm]

I never said I did 😭

[onyx chasm]

Bit too late for that since I alr started nakhi research

[viscid swift]

yeah what Mori meant was use 12 ships that all needed levels

not 12 NP ships

[onyx chasm]

I realised that later on, thank you

[onyx chasm]

I mean i have more bps for nakhi than I do for chkalov so yh...

[wind hazel]

you can coin her

[viscid swift]

counter point, you can coin Chkalov

but that's besides the point

just use 3 Batteships and use the forbidden technique of AA radars

[onyx chasm]

Counter point, don't have enough money cuz i've yet to unlock 12-4

[steel grotto]

is there a particular gun i should use on lion or is an mk7 fine for general opsi use

[viscid swift]

ok, 12-1 is still perfectly fine

[wind hazel]

i mean what's even the point of you unlocking nakhimov

[onyx chasm]

Felt like it tbh

[wind hazel]

your soyuz isn't ready, your nakhimov is lacking BPs

[onyx chasm]

I'm getting that UR soon so yh

[muted crescent]

So uhh how do I clear Abyssal with this fleet 😭

[wind hazel]

depends on what you're fighting. opsi mobbing? 457. bosses? depends on armour

[muted crescent]

or do I have to abuse Regroup and Rest for this 😭

[wind hazel]

level them up, you still have a week

[muted crescent]

ye I’m doing 10-4 for this

Do I run 2 BBs and take Nagato with me?

[wind hazel]

still cmdr HQ level gated?

[onyx chasm]

Ngl i might be better off grinding nakhi over chkalov

[muted crescent]

ye, lvl 71

[novel solstice]

Use subs, manual, and if all else fails burn some AP on regroup and rest. Or leave them sitting there for a little while and level them up, but that does mean missing out on opsi dailies if you wait very long.

[wind hazel]

71 can push to w12 isn't it

or am i high, w11?

[muted crescent]

Lvl 80 for w12 bruh 😭

[wind hazel]

oh 😂 my bad, i guess continue grinding

[tawdry maple]

what's the fleet tech reload for 4 BB salvos and 4 CV strike setup?

[steel grotto]

is the UR gun that came with lions event good for anything?

[muted crescent]

yeah no w11 for me sadge

[wind hazel]

it's the best HE gun

[tropic tusk]

might as well save some oil for tmr

[wind hazel]

pretty much max, 18 bb 42 cv

[muted crescent]

nah I’m doing 10-2 Hard so I can retro Helena asap

[tropic tusk]

i mean hard is only x3 per day

[muted crescent]

Yeah but I don’t have clear mode unlocked

[tropic tusk]

or are u 1st clear

[muted crescent]

So it’s gonna be like 3x oil

[tropic tusk]

oh u didnt first clear yetr

[cobalt robin]

You can also go back to beat the 2 enemy fleets

At the starting point

[muted crescent]

what's that gonna do when I had to use 6 regroup and rests last time vro 💔

[tropic tusk]

u doing boss in opsi?

[muted crescent]

Abyssal, yes

[cobalt robin]

You can get your resolve up when you win a battle, so in turn those 2 battles will give you 4 additional tries against the abyssal, assuming you have 2 working fleets

[tropic tusk]

yea thats how it is early on when u want to headbut it till she die

[cobalt robin]

Winning one battle restores resolve for all your fleets

[muted crescent]

not exactly helpful when my 1st fleet legit does 30x my 2nd fleet's dmg

also the other 2 are lvl 70 paperweights 😭

[cobalt robin]

That's why I said assuming you have 2 "working" fleets

With one fleet you shouldn't be doing it anyways

[muted crescent]

These would be my 2 fleets

[tropic tusk]

better put helena on boss and not 2 dd

[muted crescent]

fleet 1 is boss 😭

[cobalt robin]

Why is enty in mob fleet

[tropic tusk]

if fleet 1 is boss then u shoundt use uni

[muted crescent]

eh fair

[tropic tusk]

in most case helena best with bb

[cobalt robin]

Enty and Helena should both be boss fleet

[muted crescent]

so... do I move Nagato over to f1 and then have Formi, Uni and Howe on fleet 2?

[viscid swift]

that is not a proper 2nd fleet

[tropic tusk]

y cant u just put uni as ur fleet 1 + random 5

[whole crypt]

what's good to give GL for FP, FuMO?

[viscid swift]

sure, Battle Tractor also works

[whole crypt]

any point coping for a AVI aux?

[muted crescent]

well… this fine?

[tropic tusk]

u dont need 2 dd in 1 fleet or is that all u have

[muted crescent]

legit all I have

[viscid swift]

unlikely

[muted crescent]

that is MLB

[viscid swift]

for one you could have used Portland for your mob fleet tank

[cobalt robin]

I would switch Neptune with a dd

Or Portland yea

[muted crescent]

if I didn’t scrap her like 10x already 😭

[viscid swift]

just get her from the guild shop, anyway what do you have to work with

[muted crescent]

I have 4 SR bulins, 2 probably going to Otto

[wind hazel]

invest in otto lol

[viscid swift]

San Fransisco, Otto, etc all would have been better choices

[tropic tusk]

dd only guy lol

[muted crescent]

Mistakes were made going for London 😭

[whole crypt]

sleeping on this one smh

[formal zenith]

Tanks are life

[viscid swift]

also Nagato and Formidable are garbage

as well as that entire vanguard honestley

[muted crescent]

then what do u want me to use bruh 😭

[whole crypt]

take a few days to level and LB shit I guess?

[viscid swift]

I don't know what you have

[formal zenith]

Scroll up

[whole crypt]

it's going to take time to fix broken fleets

[viscid swift]

those are just vanguards, I need to see the main fleets as well

[muted crescent]

well… here’s my main fleet

[viscid swift]

and this is everything?

[muted crescent]

main fleet, yes. I can get more vanguard if you want cuz I’m pretty sure I have more

[formal zenith]

He has decent ships. Just leveling the wrong ones

[viscid swift]

post everything as far as elites and SRs go

[whole crypt]

🧵

[stark quiver]

🧵 👈

[muted crescent]

There, this is all

[viscid swift]

first off you're gonna ditch Nagato and Formidable and start leveling Ark Royal and Saratoga instead

[formal zenith]

Kawakaze meta has some good dd damage

[stark quiver]

lets not make them level the wrong ships

[viscid swift]

Otto will be your new mob tank

[cobalt robin]

I don't think he has the limit breaks, nor the materials

[muted crescent]

unlikely I’ll get her to max LB on time

[muted crescent]

Already maxed stats, but no LBs

[stark quiver]

if you just play the game then you can LB her easily

you literally have 40 days

[muted crescent]

Last thing I wanna do is OpSi as a whole 😭

[cobalt robin]

There's no rush

[formal zenith]

At least he already has the best meta ships minus nagato meta

[viscid swift]

it means jack if there's no mats for them

[muted crescent]

I can’t even get Nagato META, I would’ve gone for her if I could

[viscid swift]

anyway, let this also be a lesson to choose who you limit break wisely

[muted crescent]

Eh I got pretty far with them tbf

[formal zenith]

If you're not sure tier lists can help if you don't wanna bother people

[stark quiver]

ok but no limit break so kaboom

[muted crescent]

Yup.

[viscid swift]

because if you hadn't wasted a bunch on Nagato and Formidable and truth be told Howe as well you could have gone straight into investing into San Fran and Jeanne as well

[viscid swift]

their skills, limit breaks, etc

[muted crescent]

oh yeah leveling skills is fucked 😭

[formal zenith]

I always regretted taking howe to 125

[whole crypt]

Howe was great

[formal zenith]

https://tier-lane.vercel.app/

@muted crescent

[muted crescent]

I also gear labbed an Albacore for Formidable as well, so that’s gg

[stark quiver]

wheres the ships and tiers
thats a tl maker

[muted crescent]

That’s a tier list maker, where list

[split gazelle]

its missing lion tier

[cobalt robin]

ignore lists and just ask here

[south notch]

does this game need much time to learn and know and playing everyday ?

[whole crypt]

Howe was one of the top bossing BBs I don't know what you're on about
note the word is was

[viscid swift]

you do realize Jimmy's lists don't have most of the ships they'll have to choose between right?

they're very much end game tier lists except unlike sushi's they don't consider every list

[whole crypt]

learning yes
playing moreso early on, lategame is a lot of afk grinding

[stark quiver]

the process of grinding is kinda long

[cobalt robin]

it's a grindy game yes

[viscid swift]

sushi's are also just a lot more indepth

[undone zinc]

What is considered a large Caliber main gun? 203mm or higher?

[viscid swift]

283mm and higher

[whole crypt]

283+

[undone zinc]

283 inclusive?

[tropic tusk]

u can ask as u play but u will have alot of quesiton

[viscid swift]

yes

[undone zinc]

Ty

[formal zenith]

He would be mostly looking at B tier from Jimmy's list. It would still be useful. Jimmy is a reliable source

[viscid swift]

they literally only have 3 fucking ships from this only one of which is in a usable state

[stark quiver]

no its not

[muted crescent]

Neptune.

[whole crypt]

jimmy's info is not bad but contextually not useful

[tropic tusk]

damm that guy left so fast

[cobalt robin]

Who

[whole crypt]

probably the guy who ask if game takes a lot of time

[formal zenith]

He has more than that. Relax.

[muted crescent]

lemme just see what I have myself.

[viscid swift]

where exactly?

[stark quiver]

dont use jimmy's tier list

[viscid swift]

also if you wanna look at an actual indepth end game tier list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[stark quiver]

also can you guys make a fucking thread if this is gonna drag for so long

[viscid swift]

also this is not a section of the tier list, this is just ships Jimmy thinks are cute

[wind hazel]

no!

[viscid swift]

I already finished alpha

[wind hazel]

Anchorage B tier is insane

[undone zinc]

When a ship has both x time to active a barrage and fire x time to activate assault, which type of main guns should i give her? Low reload, fast reload or something inbetween?

[viscid swift]

level up Saratoga, Ark Royal, and Otto for now

[whole crypt]

yeh he doesn't have much to work with, there's not much to say

[whole crypt]

San Francisco just wants normal CA gear

[sweet delta]

Is Kawakaze as good as Napoli?

[viscid swift]

it depends on how powerful the barrages are and her main gun damage but for San Fransisco and most cruisers you just give them whichever gun deals the most damage

[formal zenith]

They keep coming out with good ships. Some are gonna be not as good anymore

[undone zinc]

Ty

[viscid swift]

so, probably the Eugen gun for you

[wind hazel]

then why is agir A tier

[undone zinc]

[stark quiver]

but anchorage is one of the best tanks in game

[cobalt robin]

Anchorage is still good and will stay that way for a long time

[wind hazel]

anshan B tier while fushun taiyuan A tier, but ashan has armor break

[sweet delta]

When was the last time you used Anchorage in endgame outside of EX?

[stark quiver]

last night

[formal zenith]

Never said she wasn't good. Just that there's better

[viscid swift]

An Shan also has noticably less damage

[crimson glacier]

i used her in w15 back when we didnt have the op make w15 a joke units 🙂

[wind hazel]

when im dragging shitters at 15-1 ⚓

[formal zenith]

I honestly don't use her anymore outside of op si

[muted crescent]

praying I can get that done before August bruh 😭

[whole crypt]

I honestly don't use her anymore period

[stark quiver]

i use her for pvp

[cobalt robin]

Better yes but in what world is Anchorage in the same tier as Felix 😭

[whole crypt]

in one where they're both not used

[viscid swift]

in the world where Anchorage is significantly easier to obtain and Dev 30

Anchorage is going to be reccomended a lot more than Felix

[formal zenith]

I'm already seeing people here saying they don't use her anymore including myself. There's your answer

[viscid swift]

doesn't necessarily mean Anchorage is more useful and the better ship

[sweet delta]

Can someone explain kawakaze, hatsuzuki, Neptune, laudacieux, fancy, kron in the same tier as Napoli

[whole crypt]

but yeh if I was going to recommend a ship I'm recommending Anchorage not Felix

I can't 🙂

[undone zinc]

What about Otto Von Alvenslebe? Do i give her fast reload or slow reload CL cannons?

[cobalt robin]

I get anchorage isn't used a lot in end game but end game usage isn't the only factor to tiering a ship, unless it's specifically a end game tier list

[viscid swift]

I think Jimmy just doesn't value Napoli's bulk with no utility

[formal zenith]

He has a video explaining his most recent adjustments

[sweet delta]

She has 1.5x kawakaze DPS and nearly 3x her tankiness

[viscid swift]

Fancy is just to carry round shot for the mob fleet in W15 safe fleets

[crimson glacier]

but kawa has infinity better asw so she clears ez

[sweet delta]

Kawakazes utility consists of her carrying hedgehog and possibly dying for it

[whole crypt]

I like the math jimmy tries to do for some stuff but tiering is definitely not his wheelhouse from what I see

[wind hazel]

fast cl gun if you're poor

[formal zenith]

What......

[undone zinc]

I'm not poor

[warped acorn]

what can u do with the excess print gained from a ship after maxing it?

[sweet delta]

Greatly depends on which CL or which DD gun you have. Rainbow CL gun > Felix gun from PR6 > rainbow DD guns > ???

[cobalt robin]

Convert to protocore

[wind hazel]

take your pick

[whole crypt]

analyze for proto cores

[warped acorn]

wonder whats the rate

[sweet delta]

Try it to find out

[warped acorn]

bet...

[whole crypt]

the rate doesn't matter, either you have excess or you don't

[undone plover]

5 per PR print
20 per DR print

[warped acorn]

and what abt farming for excess

[undone zinc]

Ty maybe i'm really poor
Where did you get thst picture??

[wind hazel]

i made it

[whole crypt]

what about you move on and work on a different ship

[warped acorn]

hmm fair...

[viscid swift]

that happens when you get an entire season maxed and you start getting excess BPs for them

[undone plover]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[viscid swift]

not exactly a process you reach quickly

[whole crypt]

look I'm not trying to shit on jimmy, he's a decent player and he knows how some of the numbers work, but that tier list isn't giving me any confidence for tiering

[undone zinc]

[cobalt robin]

Best tier list is waifu tier list

[formal zenith]

Are you looking at it as an overall list or a W13, 14, and 15?

[viscid swift]

as on overall tier list, it has some questionable decisions

[sweet delta]

Obviously verall

[viscid swift]

no matter what the context you put it in

[sweet delta]

There was no context

[whole crypt]

there's something wrong with it regardless of the context you want to use it with

[viscid swift]

I like Jimmy better than most AL CCs because while I may not necessarily agree with what he says all the time I can usually at least understand it but that doesn't mean his tier lists are the end all be all

[formal zenith]

He's also said that. Sorta kinda humble

[viscid swift]

but either way, trying to reccomend his tier lists which are very obviosuly meant for late/end game players to a newbie who has almost none of the ships on there

is really stupid frankly

[stark quiver]

Jimmy is competent in this world of YouTubers

[viscid swift]

and I question if you yourself even bothered to look at the tier list, his video and.or what they actually had

[formal zenith]

Tier lists in general help you not waste resources on terrible ships

[wind hazel]

it can also mislead new players and block progression in campaign

[viscid swift]

that's irrelevant if they don't have the majority of ships on a tier list in the first place and most of the ships in the list are either PRs/DRs or event limited

[honest sequoia]

so when Jimmy and suchi collab

[wind hazel]

tomorrow

[formal zenith]

You're right

[viscid swift]

which will take months at the minimum to obtain and in some cases years

[muted crescent]

which ones take years? wut 😭

[formal zenith]

Just spend 100s of dollars. What are you poor?

[viscid swift]

so I suggest next time maybe actually look at what you're reccomending and who you're reccomending to

[wind hazel]

event UR ship

[whole crypt]

what does money have to do with anything

[viscid swift]

that's not true for event limited ships and unhelpful

[muted crescent]

referring to PRs/DRs

[wind hazel]

then none

[viscid swift]

relax, I just meant events take 2 years on average to rerun

[muted crescent]

oh

[whole crypt]

the fact you're even suggesting whaling to build for missing ships on a tier list is probably #al-general material

[muted crescent]

could've gotten Lion as well but nah imma pull light construction while it was going on

[red hawk]

2 years? Is that Collab only or standard reruns

[viscid swift]

normal events
collabs have no gurantee of rerunning to begin with

[formal zenith]

I spend zero dollars. It was a joke

[whole crypt]

collabs may or may not rerun
normal events rerun in around 2 years after original

[viscid swift]

and some never will frankly

[red hawk]

I figured, they usually don't because of licensing but I just wanted to clarify thanks

[whole crypt]

well gph is gph, take that joke elsewhere

[muted crescent]

wth is gph

[viscid swift]

Game Play Help

[muted crescent]

oh

[red hawk]

Yeah I got scolded for cracking in here even on topic. Not supposed to .

[cobalt robin]

...

[wind hazel]

gph need humour sometimes

[cobalt robin]

I agree

[viscid swift]

there's times to be humorous and indeed we do crack jokes

[formal zenith]

Nooooooooooo. Big oof

[viscid swift]

but you need to a make it abundantly clear that is a joke and that whoever it's intended for understands that

[muted crescent]

not even a defense, but I was not in this server when that happened 😭

[red hawk]

So I grabbed u577 from the guild coin thing. I don't know why I was just looking at different ships and picked one. When I start doing these missions with a sub should I use the one from missions rewards or would u577 be better

[viscid swift]

and frankly quite a lot of dumb people show up here so when you say something you might be joking about it can be interpreted as you being serious

[red hawk]

Or wait I can use both can't i

[sweet delta]

∼∼The trick is to do it when it doesn't hurt anyone or lurkers, in a very obvious way, and when mods are asleep∼∼

[wind hazel]

fail strikeout

[sweet delta]

That's the joke

[formal zenith]

Its not the end of the world. We all learn and make mistakes

[cobalt robin]

A world without lion is a world I wouldn't wanna live in

[muted crescent]

I realised after someone told me Lion > Bismarck Zwei 💀
I didn't even get to pick up her gun, I only barely squeezed out getting Traffy once

[wind hazel]

just use i-58 for daily raid up to lv65

[formal zenith]

I'm trying to make the guy feel better lol. Don't say that

[cobalt robin]

Nah build up the guilt, make him regret more

[viscid swift]

anyway

[cobalt robin]

Yes

[muted crescent]

I'll live, I legit got 3 Zweis 💀

[sweet delta]

I-58 is better and all you need. But you can use an extra level 1 or 20 sub too, just don't invest too much resources in her https://youtu.be/cxC2Iy4XVfE

[cobalt robin]

I pulled lion cause shiny and it turns out she is giga broken

[formal zenith]

I've been bouncing back and fourth on 15-2 between Lion and Bismark Zwei. Still trying to figure out whos better

[stark quiver]

On which fleet?

[formal zenith]

Boss

[muted crescent]

bro I need like 40k coins holy fuck 😭

[stark quiver]

I’d take lion

[muted crescent]

25k to Cog Awaken both Zwei and Nep, and then another 20k for Sandy augment

[cobalt robin]

You forgetting Saratoga and ark royal

[muted crescent]

genuinely gonna end myself if I do them

[formal zenith]

Just take it day by day. Im usually low on coins

[muted crescent]

I'm not grinding 11 fucking T3 retro parts for both bruh 😭

[wind hazel]

collab ships drop tomorrow,

[viscid swift]

Ark Royal doesn't really need her retrofit

[cobalt robin]

It's not that bad bruh, just get em from the missions

[muted crescent]

ok nvm it's acc doable 💀

[whole crypt]

just take your time don't try to rush it

[cobalt robin]

there go all my cubes

😔😔

[muted crescent]

every single hard X-4 stage starting from 5-4 hard I need to clear so that's 12

[formal zenith]

Maybe it's the auto variables but zwei gets more wins

[whole crypt]

game is a marathon, you'll get into pace eventually

[muted crescent]

and the rest I have more than enough

[viscid swift]

considering it's 15-2 and your main fleet can get sniped from under you

I wouldn't necessarily use 15-2 as my testing ground

[stark quiver]

It’s rng
Because of ise and hyuuga

Just be ready to click pause and restart the boss stage

[cobalt robin]

is cruise pass or the monthly login thing better (only gonna spend 10€)

[formal zenith]

I'm in this weird phase where I try to build the best auto fleets

[stark quiver]

Don’t we all

[viscid swift]

considering that the majority of us auto

[cobalt rapids]

cruise pass is better

[stark quiver]

What are you tryna get out of it

[cobalt robin]

I got a random 10€ Google Play gift card so just wanna spend it

[viscid swift]

you could just wait for the EN Anni and x2 first purchase bonus to reset

[stark quiver]

If you want the gems then just do the 10$ 2x pack

[cobalt robin]

Sadly it's over 10€

[formal zenith]

I was auto till I get to world 15 then I started to manual

[viscid swift]

rip

[cobalt robin]

So it's either cruise or monthly or 5€ gems

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/

[formal zenith]

I got the mob fleets down for W15 but the boss fleet still has me kinda stuck for auto survival

[cobalt robin]

Do we know what the skin for next cruise pass is?

[cobalt rapids]

monty

[cobalt robin]

WHAT

[stark quiver]

Monty

[viscid swift]

I'd personally go for the cruise pass then but depends on what you're looking to get

[cobalt robin]

MONTYYY

[viscid swift]

it was in the last livestream

[cobalt robin]

Next cruise pass it is

[cobalt robin]

Didn't watch it

[sweet delta]

Try reading the patch notes

[cobalt robin]

I read em for the collab units but I guess I missed Monty

[viscid swift]

should or at least look at the recaps

[cobalt robin]

I saw that pic

That's Monty???

[viscid swift]

yes

[stark quiver]

Yea mimi

[cobalt robin]

Oh ma gawd

[jovial badge]

beginner player here: is my team any good or it's jus bad? (btw who should i try to get thru build???)

o btw forgot if i should ask here or somewhere else but whatev

[formal zenith]

Interesting guide. No Musashi in the mob fleet or boss

[viscid swift]

read that, just use Nelson instead of Pennsylvania
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips

[cobalt rapids]

replace repulse with unicorn
and replace chi an and grenvill with portland and helena

[nocturne horizon]

Is the event after this the anni?

[viscid swift]

sushi tries to keep the fleets updated with ships run or rerun in the last 6 months or so

[jovial badge]

oh oke :3

[viscid swift]

there's also his endgame tier list linked in there

[viscid swift]

what event? The Yumina collab drops tomorrow

[nocturne horizon]

Yes after the collab

[viscid swift]

the EN Anni will be after the collab yes

[nocturne horizon]

Ok thanks

[stark quiver]

Tomorrow?

[cobalt rapids]

in 15hours give or take

[sweet delta]

last I checked, Musashi is in an example mob fleet

[stark quiver]

I will give

[sweet delta]

I will take maintenance

[hushed sorrel]

i only want the rewards for the maintenance

[bright glen]

Is Albacore ( the bi-plane) worth using on Formidable?

[sweet delta]

If formidable is worth using for you, then albacore may be used when she's mobbing

[bright glen]

Alright thanks, am using her for mobbing

[jovial badge]

this is actually so much useful for me ^^ tysm

[shrewd sphinx]

Was hoping for some help concerning the shipyard ships - I did look at the pins, and did some searching, but couldn't find the answer I was looking for.

Basically, I want to get my shipyard ships levelled up. But even when I don't have blueprings to level them up with, I don't seem to have the option to use coins. I know I could be missing something somewhere, but I just wanted to see if that's the case, or I need to do something else.

[viscid swift]

you need to get their BPs primarily from the research academey

[cobalt rapids]

enhancing with coins ( coining ) is only available to PR1-5 + DR2-4

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read
https://azurlaneecgc.com/research

[shrewd sphinx]

I have been nabbing BP for the ships I have in the Research Academy whenever they pop up, I just wasn't sure if I was missing something somewhere. 😅

[shrewd sphinx]

Whoops, my bad, but thanks for the info!

[shrewd sphinx]

Appreciate the link. I've been playing for a while now, but it's only been recently that I've been taking the shipyard more seriously.

[sweet delta]

Still waiting for DR1 coining?

[tropic tusk]

https://x.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1948050480300699907?t=6TclWdS-xcjJ5i-Xy1evPw&s=19

Would the skins be like that even in game?

[cobalt rapids]

no..

[tropic tusk]

That's good

[cobalt robin]

It's just Twitter things

[forest palm]

gotta please the prudes

[cobalt robin]

I'm very pleased with the upcoming Monty skin

[tropic tusk]

Ok twitter rule that makes sense

[forest palm]

some other gacha modify the outfit to meet the standards even if it doesn't reflect the in-game product

[tropic tusk]

Standard in posting or in game

[red hawk]

some of us want to be able to play our games in public, I definitely don't play with sound on

[forest palm]

Twitter Standard

[forest palm]

coward

[tropic tusk]

Hell ya play in public with no shame

[cobalt robin]

Well gacha games are not for that

[red hawk]

when I'm pushing levels, do I want to three star everything first before the next chapter or just push the objectives down then go back for gems

[viscid swift]

up to you really

[sweet delta]

Three starring a whole chapter unlocks its hard mode

[red hawk]

yeah about that, how hard are the hard levels, I haven't done any yet

I'm at 4-1 rn

[forest palm]

first few worlds up to like 9 aren't so bad, HM 10 and onward will definitely hurt like hell

[wind hazel]

flag your penny, change your formation to double line

[red hawk]

aye aye

[wind hazel]

and everything will be ok

[cobalt robin]

struggling daily with w12h 😔✌🏻

[formal zenith]

W13 is when I had to get good

[red hawk]

double line?

[cobalt robin]

I did 13-1 but I don't wanna bother myself with clearing that 3 times daily

[cobalt robin]

Click on strategy on the right and then switch to double line

[formal zenith]

should I or spend it on something else ?

[cobalt rapids]

2nd tenrai over 457
if u alr have 1 457 from protocore its low prio

[fallen jay]

Is there a way to set it so that my secretaries will use random skins I have unlocked as well?

[cobalt rapids]

no
only if u own dupes and u set em to secretary aswell
(or projections for research ships )

[formal zenith]

Tenrai it is

[red hawk]

is there a way to expand fleet ammo supply above 5

[viscid swift]

yes but you shouldn't be considering them and you can fight without ammo

[red hawk]

lategame stuff?

[tame jungle]

more like you just deal with a couple out of ammo fights

[viscid swift]

more like they're not worth using 95% of the time

[stark quiver]

Bismarck certificate of sponsorship

[red hawk]

ahh ok, yeah I've just been dealing with the damage reduction i still clear everything fine

[empty bloom]

Can’t beat chapter 9, any suggestions?

[turbid marsh]

going to event map d1-d3 (oil cap) to level up is always a good idea

[viscid swift]

Otto main tanking for one and probably better gear

you'll also want to get a 2nd fleet up

[empty bloom]

Is Otto not good?

[viscid swift]

no I'm saying she should be tanking(on the left) not Pompeo

[empty bloom]

Ohhhh okay, I still don’t really understand which ships are supposed to go where 💀

Should I just switch their positions?I also heard Sam Diego is really good, I can get her up to 95 and switch her in if it’s worth it

[viscid swift]

that's what I'm saying yes

San Diego is good but only if you can craft her unqiue augment and she wouldn't replace anyone but she would be used for a 2nd fleet

[hallow vale]

Besides buying, how do I earn gems? I’ve only been playing for a week

[viscid swift]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[hallow vale]

Huh cool

[empty bloom]

I have enough to buy the microphone thing in the shop for her if that’s what you mean but I’m working on retrofitting unicorn right now, I’ve only been getting blue drops though

[viscid swift]

no I mean her unique augment

you should absolutely not be trying to do Sandy's retrofit right now, way too expensive for you

[empty bloom]

Oh this? I have enough to craft it

But is it more worth to save for someone I have on fleet 1?

[viscid swift]

right now you should be focused on improving your first fleet and clear 9-1 at the very least

[empty bloom]

I’m probably gonna watch a video on gear explanation or something bc I’m sure mines all sorts of messed up, I just kinda put the highest color stuff I could on em

[viscid swift]

besides you'll need 21k coins to craft and unlock it

[viscid swift]

yeah don't
https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment

[empty bloom]

I learn better watching stuff than reading something like that

But I’ll deff check it out

[viscid swift]

unfortunately pretty much all AL youtube guides are bad

[worldly pewter]

unless suchi updating something new

[stark quiver]

Why don’t one of us just make a good YouTube guide

[viscid swift]

use whatever in the AA gun slots

[cobalt robin]

I got a tenrai from protoshop, should I craft tenrai next as well?

[worldly pewter]

craft stuff when u need

[cobalt rapids]

if its ur 2nd yes

[stark quiver]

I don’t need a 2nd fishy and I got one

[cobalt robin]

yep 2nd

[cobalt robin]

I need everything

[worldly pewter]

[cobalt robin]

Tenrai hella expensive 😔

[worldly pewter]

do it when u want to clear w14

[cobalt robin]

Im at w14 now

Wanna clear it but need to level ships a bit more

[stark quiver]

Only 6 ords tho

[cobalt robin]

Electronics 😔

[stark quiver]

Even cheaper than fishy

[cobalt robin]

What is fishy

[stark quiver]

/wiki spearfish

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Spearfish_(Prototype)

[cobalt robin]

Oh that

Well electronics cuck me

Imma get more tbs first

[worldly pewter]

if u are in a position to clear w14 and can't craft a second tenrai that means u have neglected opsi for quite sometime

[stark quiver]

No really

[cobalt robin]

I legit started playing again start of June

[stark quiver]

Considering how easy everything is

[cobalt robin]

I played till w6 in 2019 and came back

[undone plover]

Not necessarily
U could reach ch14 in a couple of months
Tenrai craft needs 6 months minimum if u dont craft up t2 ords which u shouldnt do early on

[cobalt robin]

I came back as lions event was ending

[worldly pewter]

i was able to clear w14 in 6 months

[undone plover]

Reaching ch14 =/ clearing it

[cobalt robin]

Couldn't clear opsi then if I wanted to

[red hawk]

where do most people stall out at when starting a new account, without being super optimal and all that. an average anyway

what I mean by that is, when do I start to actually have to really wait on resources or timegate

[viscid swift]

no clue

[red hawk]

you know what I'm kind of referring to though? you start a new gacha and you get that honeymoon phase where there's almost always something more to do

[worldly pewter]

yeah i don't care about reaching it
i said earlier if u are in a position to clear

[cobalt rapids]

some chapter like 6/7 before oilcap
chapter 9-10
11-3
chapter 12

[undone plover]

U are time gated by commander level pretty early on
But if u mean where do ppl struggle I would say ch14 most likely
Maybe 13 if u dont manage to grab sandy or level good CVs

[cobalt robin]

Well I've been playing for barely 2 months so that's that

[red hawk]

im at like commander level 26 rn

doing chapter 4

[remote yarrow]

Probably Anchorage from PR4

[red hawk]

really really new but I'm trying to start my account out smoothly

[cobalt rapids]

just craft the 2nd tenrai when u can
its a good plane ull use everywhere and not limtied to ch14

[cobalt robin]

Wait you can just buy pr ships?

[red hawk]

At what point do I need to worry about rounding out a second fleet

[undone plover]

I would not buy that pack tbh
It is like a time saver and not rly worth
If u want to spend better spend on gems

[cobalt robin]

What the hell

[viscid swift]

around when you get to Chapter 9

[cobalt rapids]

when u have the ships for it and u reached oilcap

[remote yarrow]

Only the PRs and only one per season

[worldly pewter]

keep getting wyverns and other stuff before tenrai
it will take sometime for it
i crafted it once they put it in the gear lab and it felt kinda heavy

[cobalt robin]

Damn

[cobalt rapids]

u can technically use the higher packs to unlock from the same lower seasons

[stark quiver]

I also crated a third twnrai when it got labbed

[red hawk]

can you still get full credit for clearing a battle stage if you evade instead of attack during ambush

[viscid swift]

yes

[cobalt robin]

Yea im gonna get more conv tbs and then 2nd wyvern first

[empty bloom]

You’re the best thank u

Sorry got busy at work

[viscid swift]

no worries

[red hawk]

besides the flagship, what do I need to know about positioning my ships in my fleet to make it work better

[viscid swift]

for the vanguard you out your tankiest ship on the left, 2nd tankiest on the right, etc

[cobalt rapids]

the leftmost vanguard slot eats the most amount of damage
otherwise check for positional skills for ships in ur fleet

[red hawk]

right now I have Z23-Helena-Portland with a backline of Long Island-Penn-Unicorn

[cobalt rapids]

portland should be on the left

[red hawk]

ok

actually I was wrong, i'm still figuring out the chibis versus names, sorry, she was already on the left, Z23 mid, right helena

I know there are some tier lists out there, but are there any recommendations for easy to procure f2p ships for the second fleet?

I know guild coins allow for some pulls and stuff

or at least ones I should keep an eye out for

[empty bloom]

Do these just give you the ships or

[undone plover]

try and grab enterprise if u are on lil e server
u can get her from medal shop for 80 medals

[red hawk]

is lil E default for na?

[soft raft]

Iirc yeah

[viscid swift]

Free to Play has nothing to do with anything really

[red hawk]

that's the one I'm on]

[undone plover]

it is default for global not just NA I think

[cobalt robin]

You'll want to invest in a 2nd fleet a lot later

[soft raft]

I remember accidentally logging onto Little E when I re-installed the game on my new phone and didn't check that it was on Washington lol

[red hawk]

I'm sorry if I'm not always super clear, I just meant are there things I get from missions/campaign/can pull with free currencies that I should keep my eye on to plan for the future

[undone plover]

grab 1 copy of enterprise and these things from medal shop before end of month, (sry sold out screenshot )

[viscid swift]

I mean cubes are free pretty much and we have a collab and collab rerun dropping in a few days

but in terms of map drops and such, there's a few but not too many

[cobalt robin]

Tomorrow right

[undone plover]

is nelson still part of rookie missions?

[viscid swift]

Yumina is tomorrow

[red hawk]

I plan on doing that, I'm just trying to see if there are any hidden gems you get from in game rewards that I need to be paying attention to. I guess my analogy would be like the solid 4* characters in honkai you can get for free, are there any ships youd recommend out of say, the guild coin buy lists that I should probably snag when I can

[viscid swift]

Ryza doesn't drop until Saturday

[soft raft]

Nelson, Hood, Enterprise, Sandy, and Illustrious got yeeted for Shinano and NJ

[viscid swift]

nah, you already got the good ones, the rest are tech

there's the medal shop but I forget what Little E has this month

[red hawk]

and that starts unlocking at 30 from what I see

[soft raft]

I thought they would be dropping at the same time like with the other collab reruns

[undone plover]

saratoga can drop from campaign but I wouldnt stay in a map for her
just push
when u get to ch9 then u can worry about second fleet
enterprise from medal shop is the only ship u should try and get for now

[cobalt robin]

Is yumia the rerun or ryza

[soft raft]

And Hood

[soft raft]

Yunia is new
Ryza is rerun

[viscid swift]

nah, it's literally two seperate events that run simultaneuously

[undone plover]

well lil E is double CV medal
but maybe next month

[cobalt robin]

Thanks

[soft raft]

Wack

[viscid swift]

I know, only saving grace is the Ryza maps have their drops tripled

[soft raft]

Wonder if Tempesta part 2 will rerun like that as well or not

[boreal wagon]

clearly at this rate theyll just run all 3 tempesta events at once

[undone plover]

was there any mention of the selector for old ship in event shop?
or is that sth we will know on day of event?

[viscid swift]

we'll also be having an additional maintinence on Saturday

[viscid swift]

no character selector mentioned at all

[cobalt robin]

More oil

[narrow kiln]

Is there a chance that Douglas A-1 Skyraider can be obtained somehow?
I really like to see 8 HVARs

[viscid swift]

which kinda makes sense seeing as there's one less SR to pull comapred to Gridman and DOA

[viscid swift]

not right now

[soft raft]

Currently event limited (Yorktown 2)

Tho more like pending War Archive since it already reran

[cobalt robin]

What does that mean

[soft raft]

It's from Yorktown II event
And it won't be coming back until it's Archived/permanently added

[viscid swift]

The devs also have a really bad track reccord of making event gear permanent, takes forever

[soft raft]

And even then, it'll take a few extra months for the event gear to show up at all

[cobalt robin]

I want the table 😔😔

[undone zinc]

Is any of those ships worth getting???

[viscid swift]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[empty bloom]

Is anchorage the best to get out of here?

[undone plover]

3 white shells and 2 black
then indep is the usual advice we give

[undone zinc]

So... No?

[viscid swift]

aside from Independence yeah

[undone plover]

u could get odin to speedrun KMS tech so u can research FdG and Agir sooner
anchorage is the best probably though
but again I dont think u need this
there are better things to spend money on

[red hawk]

I was planning on doing pretty much f2p, but is the value on the reward path thing decent for 10 bucks?

[ivory pawn]

Only if you want the skin.

[undone plover]

it is decent
I would only get it if u like the skin

[red hawk]

the non cosmetics aren't worth it then?

[undone plover]

it is decent but u dont need it

[empty bloom]

I don’t think I have them

[ivory pawn]

They’re great, just not worth the $$ without the skin bumping up the value.

[hollow gust]

If you want a easy start you should be buying the lvl70 pass

[red hawk]

which is that

[remote yarrow]

They weren't responding to you btw

[empty bloom]

What should I spend my money on? I get paid tonight lmao

[remote yarrow]

Whatever you wanna spend it on

[empty bloom]

Oopsie

[remote yarrow]

As long as it's not cubes

[thin flint]

I’ve almost spent my entire oil stash on exp grinding for Hindy. How do I get oil without waiting for the oil factory to max?

[undone plover]

it depends who u ask tbh
buying gems with 2x bonus for dock space is the best if u care about collection
rings if u like to oath
or skins

I wouldnt spend on any materials myself
u get enough of them if u play every day

[red hawk]

My finger slipped on the google play thing

[remote yarrow]

If you think Anchorage will help you go ahead, if you want skins get skins, if you like the pass skin and want some freebies on top of it get the cruise pass, it's up to you

[narrow kiln]

Do I remember correctly that lvl 125 ships give experience for PR/DR development (as I remember, this is written in the Z23 (bot) command)?

[red hawk]

and that's the last I'll spend for awhile I think. five bucks seems fair to give a game a shot

[undone plover]

use the pack immediately
dont hold on to it for later
the sooner u use it the better the value
it might give a warning if your depot is full
Just put excess gear on your ships that u are not using then u can open it

[red hawk]

now, I know this will give me access to higher level daily raids and stuff, but which ones am I realistically going to be able to do with an upjumped level 25 account and level 50 fleet

[cobalt robin]

Whale

[red hawk]

already did

[fallen jay]

So how do I activate NJ the rub voice line on the screen? And also all the others? I can’t find it online

[undone plover]

try and see
rule of thumb is your ships can fight ships of equiv level
can prob push a bit more if u manual

[red hawk]

I knew a dude who spent 30k on simplemmo and that's literally just pushing a button over and over, im not even an amoeba

[fallen jay]

Like is there a general area you have to click for each different voice line cause it just gives me the same over and over regardless where I click

[cobalt rapids]

rub = headpats

[narrow kiln]

Can you remind me what's good about Independence?
In plain text.

[cobalt robin]

I've spent 100 on Al but that's only been for skins

[viscid swift]

just push and see how far you get, the purpose of the pack isn't necessarily to give you a performance boost but just to remove the early commander level gates

[stark quiver]

Natural stagger
Good cross fleet
Good damage

[undone plover]

she has 8x plane with great efficiency
she has great buffs
she has a natural stagger
decent X-fleet

[fallen jay]

How do you give headpats? Do I need to click above her head and slide down onto her head or click on her head itself?

[stark quiver]

How is it decent xfleet

[cobalt rapids]

just tap her header usually above or near the forehead area

[red hawk]

right, I just was assuming that even though it jumps my commander level, I'm still going to need to bring my fleet up to be able to do stuff higher commander level unlocks

[undone plover]

wdym
u said it is good yourself

[stark quiver]

It’s good
Not decent

[cobalt robin]

Good is not decent

[undone zinc]

[fallen jay]

Thank you

[red hawk]

what research focus do I start with?

[cobalt robin]

You mean academy research?

[red hawk]

yeah

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur goals but generally 7 or 8

[undone plover]

5 or 7 or 8
I am a fan of 8

[cobalt robin]

7 or 8

[undone zinc]

Why 7 or 8?

[remote yarrow]

Good ships and gear

[stark quiver]

67

[undone zinc]

7 ate 9...

[undone plover]

earlier seasons have a boost with coin and catchup
u dont need to focus them
season 6 is not that great
7 and 8 are both good

[cobalt robin]

What was in 5 I forgor

[undone zinc]

What are "Sirens"???

[undone plover]

plymouth mainly
and some decent gear

[cobalt robin]

I meant gear

[undone zinc]

What are "Sirens" and why PR1 have buffs against them?

[undone plover]

harbin DD gun
plymouth gun
the parallel TB is good transitional
Not sure if I am forgetting sth else

[red hawk]

what about gear research?

[cobalt robin]

I wanna get Harbin next, do I need that gun for her?

[remote yarrow]

Like gear lab? Long term objective

[cobalt rapids]

sirens are the enemies that look like girls but are not shipgirls or ship girl variants
usually found in opsi

[undone plover]

I would stop recommending pr5 but I remember ppl recommending pr4 last year around this time and now those ppl dont do the same with pr5

[turbid marsh]

used to be main enemy that distort the world. can go to lore to read the stories and main quests.

[undone zinc]

So PR1 has buffs focused for OpSi thenm

[viscid swift]

that's moreso just how game changing PR4 was

[cobalt rapids]

4 and 5 are still valid focuses

[remote yarrow]

No, all Seasons do

[viscid swift]

PR5 is literally just Plymouth by comparrison

[red hawk]

im doing 8 for research academy, just trying to find out what path is best for a slow burn account build

[turbid marsh]

all pr/dr have em. pr was made to tackle them.

[undone zinc]

😮

[cobalt robin]

I thought ply gun was 4 for some reason

[sweet delta]

Maybe mention that s8 rainbows are easier to use than s7

[undone zinc]

Lore

[sweet delta]

Gouden less reliant on rainbow guns, meck is BB and doesn't need soyuz

[remote yarrow]

Doesn't matter who you pick, it's still gonna take you about 3~4 months since you are new

[red hawk]

thats fine, I just didn't know if there was a recommended first faction/build type

[remote yarrow]

About which Research types to pick I like to go with Q > D > G

[cobalt robin]

15 la9 prints at almost 2 months 😔✌🏻

[viscid swift]

Imma submit some tweaks for review

[red hawk]

Im gonna look stupid and ask, whats the QDG acronym

[cobalt robin]

Researches have corresponding letter

[remote yarrow]

Games done quick jk it's the Research type

[red hawk]

oh I see that on research academy, i'm trying to figure out which faction to start gear research on and what gear

[remote yarrow]

Example

[stark quiver]

Bro what

[dreamy blade]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[cobalt robin]

Yes 😔

[remote yarrow]

Do NOT pick H type research

[red hawk]

REDACTED

wont do that again

[cobalt rapids]

not advised when ure a newbie that needs to pull on banners and u have a limited stock of cubes available no

[remote yarrow]

Those require cubes and since you are new you are gonna want to save your cubes for events

[undone plover]

just to be clear
for unlocking ships in shipyard do this prio
1- pr1 (saint louis/roon)
2- anchorage/FdG/agir
3- 1 gold ship from pr3/pr5
4- Hakuryuu/plymouth

for focusing blueprints in research academy
focus pr7 or pr8 (reference that picture neko posted to make your decision)
focus getting the DR prints (mecklenburg/golden lion)

when your meck/golden lion or any ship in general has enough blueprints for dev30 u should try and unlock them as well then actually use them

[cobalt robin]

How many ur prints do you guys get a month on average

[stark quiver]

25

[cobalt robin]

Bruh

[stark quiver]

Because it takes me good 2 months per UR gear usually

[undone plover]

depends on your focus
if on gear focus ~ 20-30 should be possible
if on ship probably ~50% of that if not less

[narrow kiln]

What do use as Aux on U-552?

[stark quiver]

I’m at 13 meck gun bps

[dreamy blade]

oxytorps

[red hawk]

how do I unlock those ships you first mentioned? should I be doing those research academy ships first then going to PR7/8?

[cobalt rapids]

oxytorp and hull

[cobalt robin]

I have not been taking anything else beside Q with occasional g and have 15

Hitting 2 months soon

[red hawk]

I guess I'm not clearly understanding what you mean by saying unlocking in shipyard versus research academy

[undone plover]

yes u should
because those ships have coin up
meaning u can get them to dev30 with coin
but if u get nakhimov for example she will sit in your dock for months and will be useless

U unlock them by checking the requirement and doing the missions, most requirement is faction points

this is unlocking a ship
look at the missions on the right side
u do those missions and the ship will go to dock

[dreamy blade]

shipyard = missions to unlock a ship
research = obtain blueprints to max out those ships

[undone zinc]

What are your thoughts on the oncoming collab?

[stark quiver]

How many days has pr8 been out

[stark quiver]

Probably gonna be hell to grind

[sweet delta]

The collab looks like ass

[undone plover]

we will know tomorrow or later tonight with datamine

[red hawk]

oh ok, sorry, I see that now, sorry 70 unlocked a lot of stuff and kind of overwhelmed me, I see that's it's part of the tech options

[sweet delta]

I mean the ships' skins

[undone plover]

today is day 14

[undone zinc]

Is there anyway to buy blueprints for pr? Besides datacore shop

[undone plover]

u should start saint louis and ignore that part of the game until u reach ch9 or even ch12

[forest palm]

enough time to already be working on a 3rd PR8 ship

[undone zinc]

And do you guys recommend to spend cubes in research?

[red hawk]

saint louis is locked for me 17/20

[remote yarrow]

Not if you are new to the game

[undone zinc]

[undone plover]

u will soon get enough ships to start her
like I said dont worry about it too much yet

[remote yarrow]

AL is a marathon not a sprint, specially research

[red hawk]

im assuming I just haven't gotten enough of that faction ships to drop in battles yet to unlock it

[red hawk]

apologies if off topic, but that's the rallying cry of any f2p gacha player. Not here for a good time, here for a long time

[undone zinc]

What is the best way to level a ship from 1-70?

[undone plover]

dorm/xp book

[robust nymph]

is requisition worth doing?

[undone zinc]

How do you farm them?!?!!

[red hawk]

I'm good not saving the XP books then?

[remote yarrow]

Doesn't really apply for AL, you cannot really whale your way to the top compared to other gachas

[undone plover]

only once for the rookie mission and never again

[undone plover]

if your current fleet clears the maps fine then dont use the xp books
save for when u have to boost a ship from level 1

[undone zinc]

Are the drops that bad? Or is it better to spend the medals in other things?

[undone plover]

yes and yes

[undone zinc]

😮

[red hawk]

what advantages would whaling give you? I'm not going to whale, I'm just curious about how it does much mechanically. I know a lot of what people have said about AL is that outside of skins it's pretty friendly to people not spending a lot

[undone plover]

the biggest thing is oathing for meta which is not sth u should do rly
but it gives 6% extra boost to base stats

[remote yarrow]

Just skipping a couple stuff like with the Research packs

[inland shoal]

Oaths -> ~6% greater stats
Oil -> Faster ship maxing, more resources

[remote yarrow]

And oathing ^

[red hawk]

there...are cats

[remote yarrow]

Stay away from those vermins

[inland shoal]

Ig there's also the lvl 70 pack which accelerates the very early game quite a bit

[cobalt rapids]

you cannot really whale for cats

[undone plover]

said the cat whaler

[dreamy blade]

dock space

gems to repair fleet during campaign

[red hawk]

is dock space "needed"? if im dilligent in retiring extras can I better use more dorm rooms?

[undone zinc]

Why daily raids say lvl 70 but enemies are lvl 100

[red hawk]

I'm working on the 2nd floor expansion rn, just hoarding gems

[dreamy blade]

there are something like 700~ ships in the game so depends if you are a collector-type, i've been playing almost a year and have 410 dock space atm

[undone plover]

f2p gems get u sth like 300-400 dock space
there are ~700 unique ships in this game
f2p gems should all go to dock space
whaling for dock space is not needed but u will have to retire some ships

[remote yarrow]

Needed if you wanna collect ships and wanna have choices to pick from without having to worry about retiring

[red hawk]

no, that actually helps my answer, because ideally I'd like to have 1 of each as I progress

[empty bloom]

So is independence better than anchorage?

[remote yarrow]

Some ppl like to retire ships after they are done leveling them to 120

[cobalt rapids]

depends how much of a collectionist you are or not
but collecting and leveling ships also provides gameplay bonuses through collection and lv120 tech bonus ( which is the endgame activity for most players )
also considers theres like 700 ships ingame + u want extra always so you can farm in peace and not be bothered by popups

[dreamy blade]

yes you get enough gems f2p to keep a copy of every unique ship you get

[undone zinc]

They're sick...

[cobalt rapids]

kinda cap

[undone plover]

f2p gems go into dock space
it will be some time until u have to worry about dock space unless u mess that up
by then u will know if u whale for dock space or not

[remote yarrow]

kinda? that's really cap

[cobalt rapids]

nah if u play for 6 or 7 years maybe u can catchup 💀

[cobalt robin]

Im no way near 700 dock space

[dreamy blade]

i've run low on space before but i havent had to retire 120 ships

[remote yarrow]

Unless you are extremely lucky with gems commissions there's no way you can keep up with ship releases

[red hawk]

nah you know what I'm over this game

I already have to do the litter for five cats irl I gotta pooper scooper admiral whiskers

[undone zinc]

Are gem commisions real? I havent seen one in two months...

[dreamy blade]

i meant keep up with natural progression, new player not pulling on non-UR events etc etc

[cobalt rapids]

just

[stark quiver]

Damn I’m not even at 1/day pace

[cobalt rapids]

dont engage with aspects of the game u dont like
some ppl completely ignore cats and they are fine fr

[cobalt robin]

They are real but very rare and even then you probably won't even get gems

[undone plover]

technically the 14th day is only ~6 hours in

[stark quiver]

I still have a chance

Also I’ve gotten enough gems from comms to get multiple dock spaces

[remote yarrow]

Me ignoring the cattery for the past 1 1/2 years

[cobalt robin]

I've gotten one gem commission but no gems out of it 😔

[dreamy blade]

my gem comms would be enough for 1 (1) dock expansion

[red hawk]

sorry that should have gone in general I was joking

just seemed a silly bit to the process

[remote yarrow]

banned for joking in gph

[undone zinc]

What about Uma Musume? Maybe change from ships to horses?

[stark quiver]

I’ve gotten more gems than I have not from comms
It’s all about rng

[inland shoal]

Wdym copium? 1 gem comm with 40 gems is already 2 dock space, so multiple dock spaces

[dreamy blade]

look at this guy getting 40 gems from his comms and not 12

[undone plover]

the coopium was for the first part of the sentence

[cobalt robin]

Rng is my worst enemy

[red hawk]

I have also mucked horse stables for cash during fair season, please tell me that game doesn't make you clean up horse plop

[stark quiver]

Tbf manjuu controls my soul

[inland shoal]

A joke is fine, but enough horse and especially feces talk

[red hawk]

yeah I'm done, so do I just pick a faction and start working down the list on gear lab?

[cobalt rapids]

shipyard and yea
consult faerleins msg for what to pick and work on

[undone plover]

if u mean shipyard yes
this is a general prio list
come back and ask if not sure how to progress

[empty bloom]

What the heck are these for

[undone plover]

ASMR tickets

[red hawk]

no I mean the actual gear lab

which weapons do I do

[undone plover]

I dont think u can do it yet
u need opsi mats for that

[remote yarrow]

Doubt you'll be able to craft anything any time soon

[red hawk]

oh ok yeah I see, I thought it was like the other research stuff

[remote yarrow]

No, you get Gearlab materials from OpSi which is a whole different "game mode"

[undone plover]

when your fleet gets to level 70 MLB maybe u can start on opsi

[undone zinc]

Wait is lvl 70 good enough? I thought it wss better to start st level 100 minimum

[red hawk]

my fleet is in the high 40s/low 50s so I have time

[remote yarrow]

Unless you know what you are doing probably not, higher level is safer

[undone plover]

to give a more detailed answer
3 tickets buys u 1 entry here
memories > secrets
There are sometimes limited entries
u might want to save the tickets for when your fav shipgirl gets em

[undone zinc]

What about retrofittingg?! Which ships should i focus for?

[empty bloom]

Thank u

[cobalt robin]

just listen to it on yt

[inland shoal]

Unicorn

[undone zinc]

And after her?

[remote yarrow]

Unicorn, Portland, starter DD

[hushed sorrel]

how do we know when there are limited entries? i missed all except the first but i got lots of tickets

[inland shoal]

Depends, starter DD is a solid choice, Portland if still using her is good, Indep if you got her is great

[eternal basalt]

There are 2 new ones, and one rerun tommorrow

[undone zinc]

Are gols tier blueprints drop rate increased in higher hardmode stages?

[undone plover]

it gets announced in the patch notes or in #game-news
for example we are getting golden hind/z52 next

[undone plover]

yes but not sure by how much

[remote yarrow]

Supposedly yes, but we have no real proof

[robust nymph]

is Roon mu a good ship worth getting in core shop?

[undone zinc]

Good ol copium

[inland shoal]

In other words it's not a lot or otherwise we would have better evidence

[remote yarrow]

Still higher stages give you more core data so it's better

[red hawk]

I wish i would have realized that the starting mission wouldn't always pop an escort fleet enemy, because I wasn't able to 3* the first stage

[empty bloom]

What do u get in there?

[red hawk]

every time I ran it I just got the boss, and I didn't realize till after you can retreat and repeat

[undone plover]

u can probably find an example of what it is on youtube
it is basically like a short ASMR video
nothing gameplay related

[empty bloom]

Sounds like a waste of gems

[undone plover]

u get 1 free ticket per month (need 3 to buy 1 entry)

[eternal basalt]

You get 1 free every 3 months

[empty bloom]

Do u get to rewatch it or do they go away

[undone plover]

just save 3 until your waifu is added

[undone plover]

yeah it stays and u can replay it

[eternal basalt]

And then you can uninstall it and save all that space!

[normal cedar]

is the ryza rerun date announced officially?

[remote yarrow]

Saturday

[normal cedar]

got it, thanks

[eternal basalt]

But it gets installed tommorrow as usual

[undone plover]

what was a good tldr about the ryza ships
ik klaudia was a good (secondary?) healer
what about the rest

[remote yarrow]

Kala was a pretty decent tank iirc, no idea about the rest

[eager mulch]

[cobalt rapids]

primary
the others arent noticeable
patty was good when she was good ( on release )
kala is the worst cb
reisa runs out of fuel when her item procs run out
and the elites are elites

[forest palm]

Kala, Klaudia, Bubble Bullet, Crystal Ice Bomb, Elixir and I'm not sure if that's all that mattered from the collab

[undone plover]

primary
Is she better than percy for later chapters?
I assume worse than uni correct?

[cobalt rapids]

yes shes uni without preload but more dmg per strike
and worse healing

[undone plover]

worse backline healing as well or better?

[cobalt rapids]

worse unless u run her aux combo and she herself takes dmg

[undone plover]

interesting
nice ship