gameplay-help

[onyx chasm]

I'll just leave it like this then

[robust nymph]

is sirius that good? i felt like i heard she was ok at best, now i was looking at this list from a youtuber that has a looot of experience in the game and he placed her quite high, even higher than shimanto (left to right placement matters here)

[viscid swift]

Oh I'm well aware of Jimmy's list

[onyx chasm]

Who should I research first?

[novel solstice]

It's really hard to meaningfully tier ships that have different niches. Sirius has a skill that buffs CVs, which is quite useful in the right fleet.

[viscid swift]

that list is at least 7 months old though

[robust nymph]

oh it is, september 2024, didnt mention

[hollow gust]

that avorora placement lol

[soft raft]

how is she that high

[robust nymph]

i like sirius a lot but i was keeping her 120 cause i really thought she was mid

[viscid swift]

like Sirius is still good but, you do have to understand and why she's being used

[hollow gust]

she has a ludicrious vanguard damage buff, its fine

[viscid swift]

which is a CV buff bot basically

[viscid swift]

doesn't matter

[robust nymph]

basically she buffs this funny button yes?

[onyx chasm]

So it's just whoever i like more unlike the other series

[viscid swift]

well you won't have BPs for any of them for months

[soft raft]

more like it's way too early to tell for 100% sure how good they are
And you aint gonna be D30'ing them anytime soon

[viscid swift]

she's the damage of your CVs and their hit rate if applicable yes

[onyx chasm]

Hm alr... Also is this decent for agir rn since I don't have anything better

[soft raft]

sure

[hollow gust]

agir got coining?

[onyx chasm]

Sorry?

[hollow gust]

how do you have agir high deved without getting her gun

[onyx chasm]

A) Idk what to tell you I just leveled her up and put what I thought would be alr B) Idk how to get her gun or which one you're even talking about

I legit just finished her research

[robust nymph]

i mean i feel like im in their same position, ima be done with agir research in 2 days but im researching pr7 so i wont have her gun

[onyx chasm]

Well no I have the focus on whoever im researchin at least a week before I start researching them so yh

[hollow gust]

then agir is practically useless

[hollow gust]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_305mm_(SK_C/39_Prototype)#tabber-CB_Variant

[robust nymph]

and at the same time i dont wanna switch to pr4 since im very close to get the last pieces to craft a lot of gear from pr7

[onyx chasm]

You guys meant this?

[hollow gust]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/research/ please read everything

[onyx chasm]

Then why didn't you say so earlier 🙏

[undone tundra]

actually kind of mentioned already i guess

[onyx chasm]

Someone was talking to me about torps

[tropic tusk]

Is it technically I can open 1skill each on all meta and they can all earn exp all together?

Nice

[onyx chasm]

Huh?

[hollow gust]

either way for both of you Agir is useless as fuck, shouldve done anchorage and spent coins to buy prints

[robust nymph]

ok question: how do i get agir gun, i need to select iv right? but here it says iv is bad and i should stick to vii

[plain saffron]

yes and it's funny when you finish a run and you have like 12 META ship icon on the summary screen

[hollow gust]

just buy a copy with protocore

[tropic tusk]

Ya was hopping to see that

[robust nymph]

so i can buy 20 and wait to gather 5 extra?

[onyx chasm]

Alr have anchorage...

[hollow gust]

agir dps is inconsequential, only buy if you have the important stuff already

/protocore

[odd root]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[robust nymph]

is it often like this that for certain pr ships you either have their specific gun or its bad?

[hollow gust]

there are a fuck ton of CB guns, agir is usually the easiest and most diverse

[worldly pewter]

use that and the triple mag purple torp
u showed them earlier u have 2

[onyx chasm]

Alr added it

[robust nymph]

that is why im asking whats the reason about stressing about this specific weapon when there seems to be a good amount of different options

[sweet delta]

And do you have the different options?

No? That's what I thought

[tropic tusk]

[onyx chasm]

I mean do they even know what other options there are?

[tropic tusk]

That guy no ,others probably

[onyx chasm]

Oh...

[sweet delta]

The purple 283 is only 14% worse than aegir gun, you can use that

[worldly pewter]

suchi is brest gun any good ?

[sweet delta]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X4hafXGXiqSgaIJdcWA3La7rvZCFVJZzZ44GqyQ_Fxo/edit?usp=drivesdk

Brest gun is slow so you get fewer AoA, and it's only decent for heavy

[tropic tusk]

Oh ya sushi 1 video per day for the pr update right?

[onyx chasm]

Do i bother using these?

[tropic tusk]

Pr7 for that russian plane

[onyx chasm]

What?

[worldly pewter]

what are u trying to do ?

[onyx chasm]

I was asking for bp exchange is all

[tropic tusk]

Wait U don't own them?

[worldly pewter]

which ship did u press on there ?

[onyx chasm]

I was checking for agir?

[worldly pewter]

yeah don't use them there

[onyx chasm]

Wdym

[tropic tusk]

Nvm ignore me

[onyx chasm]

Oof

[worldly pewter]

the V VI can be used on ply or if u want to finish faster the series u use it on the last one between brest and ply that didn't finish the dev level when one of them is at 30
VII is cat but it is the same too if u want to finish it faster u use it on the last one

[onyx chasm]

Well I'm not gonna be able to research them anytime soon soooo

[onyx chasm]

Don't you get those from events or smth

Also should I just start or research someone else

[worldly pewter]

what i was explaining there is the thing that i m doing here

[onyx chasm]

yh i'm gonna need more... Where can i get them again?

This is the primary obtainment right??

[worldly pewter]

medal shop and events

[worldly pewter]

ignore that

[onyx chasm]

Also ^

[worldly pewter]

she will be -1 dock

[onyx chasm]

What?

[worldly pewter]

pr6 is almost impossible to do for like 2 years

[onyx chasm]

Wdym

[craggy sorrel]

can i use 2 beacons in 1 ship?

[worldly pewter]

just wait until pr6 becomes coinable then do it
i m in the same boat btw

[onyx chasm]

So what ships do I want to research whilst I wait? Alr got FDG/St. Louis/Anchorage and now Agir so.

[onyx chasm]

Cuz I was thinking of going for either of these

[worldly pewter]

hakuryuu

[onyx chasm]

...

[worldly pewter]

an easy fix is to wait 2 more months to make ur life easier

[onyx chasm]

What's happening in 2 months

[strange path]

Unzen rerun i believe (?)

[worthy peak]

real

[worldly pewter]

2 months later is the jp anni

[strange path]

Woops

[worthy peak]

does anybody know when the z52 will be out again

[worldly pewter]

2027 jan most likely

[viscid swift]

not for over a year still

[undone tundra]

before that you can just research whoever you like
cuz "most" of them (except agir/ancorage)need dev30 to have their best perform which cant be achieved in short run

[worldly pewter]

agir dev 20 and haku dev 25 are usuable

[worthy peak]

well that sucks

[viscid swift]

meh

[undone tundra]

i remember dev25 hakuryuu is shoukaku without augment level, i think still not outstanding enough to be use
usuable , but more replaceable than dev agir dev20

[cosmic palm]

why is fleet supply currently unavailable?

[white agate]

i need pr 7 fs5 now

[undone tundra]

your guild havent refresh it yet

[cosmic palm]

it requires manual refreshing?
that makes sense.
I think my old guild went dark, so I joined a new one.

[worldly pewter]

on what did u test ?

[undone tundra]

i remember its cn guys calculation

[worldly pewter]

i didn't ask who tested i asked on what the test was conducted

[undone tundra]

in meta fight

[robust nymph]

which one?

why is the vit-2 not here?

[undone tundra]

cause its not a fighter

[white agate]

one is parallel the other convergent ;one is for campaign the other for bossing

[undone tundra]

its torpedo boomber💀

[onyx chasm]

Which do I want to focus on primarily?

[robust nymph]

so the vit2 would be better for bossing? since its on enty i should swap then?

[white agate]

pr7 imo

[white agate]

conv torp are good for bossing, just beware to not make the boss move too much

[undone tundra]

good in boss fight with prerequisit of controlling the boss movement

[robust nymph]

i usually play auto

[worldly pewter]

we tested it on royal ark against enty the results were not bad overall very worth using especially on the newer side accounts
she didn't win against enty a single time but there were times where they were very close that is why putting it to shoukaku's level is kinda weird mainly on the loadout side

[ionic kraken]

i just got enough ur bullins to mlb a character. do i do all 4 on bismark zwei, all4 for ulrich, or 2 on each? i use them both in the same team? i appreciate any advice on this

[undone tundra]

they did not show what set up they ues to test so idk the detail datas, but anyway why not just go with enty unless against heavy armer boss

[worldly pewter]

the idea is to use them both + avp as a new player comp

[undone tundra]

oic

but i guess it still take times to get to dev 25

[worldly pewter]

yea with catchup around a month

[undone tundra]

so quick?!

ive never tried using the catchup mechanism for getting devs

[novel solstice]

Always use bulins to get someone to max, never split them. It's better to have one good ship you can use than two half-done ones that suck.

[worldly pewter]

looks like a lot faster actually

around 17 days with maximum catchup use

[undone tundra]

but max catchup use too expensive, usually recc 10per day is more than enough?

[worldly pewter]

that is called coining

the catchup is the 150 prints that u get from the research

[undone tundra]

oic

[ionic kraken]

who do y'all recommend for iron blood vanguard ships other than agir and hindenburg?

[narrow kiln]

It seems to be closer to 300 for PR ships.

[stark quiver]

Z52

[narrow kiln]

z52 maybe?

[worldly pewter]

yeah but we were talking about haku

[narrow kiln]

As far as I know, because I haven't checked.
Because for me there are about 5 PR/DR ships right now.
Nakhimov, Chkalov, Dmitry...
Kearsarge, because BBVs look cool.
Halford, for fun.
Well, I also didn’t read the dialogue.

[hollow gust]

[narrow kiln]

Disappeared, in the desire to get more NP ships

[worldly pewter]

it looks like u are discussing an entirely different topic

[narrow kiln]

No, I'm just not sane.

[ionic kraken]

is regensburg any good?

[stark quiver]

Meh

[hollow gust]

not really

[stark quiver]

Good tech tho

[forest palm]

[undone plover]

they were asking about this one https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Regensburg

[forest palm]

how do you confuse Mecklen with Regens

[undone tundra]

oh gosh my eyes got some trouble

[tame jungle]

burg

[forest palm]

even then...

[undone plover]

it is an honest mistake to make
why make a big deal out of it

[undone tundra]

she has above avg durability and ok fire power, not a bad ship to use in early stage but will be replaced by new good ships
and quite high aa among german ships

[slow fox]

I was about to be so jealous. smh

[strange path]

291

That’s like 85% of my dockspace

[sweet delta]

The gold plates for 291 auxes isn't even possible yet

[slow fox]

I bet you're hiding them, Suchiperson

where are they

[sweet delta]

And that many rudder bps require farming NJ archive ever since it got added

[stark quiver]

where is the best map to farm toolkits

[sweet delta]

3-4 is cheapest

[stark quiver]

thank

[sweet delta]

3 oil fleet, or 4 oil if you lazy

[cobalt robin]

Can you enlighten me to why you would need that many mashing machines?

What is this bullshit

Do I take D?

[stark quiver]

uhh yea

[sweet delta]

You call that bullshit?

[worldly pewter]

rip

[stark quiver]

also lmfao, you have cube and coin and you complain

[cobalt robin]

I've had worse but this whole week has been shit like this

[turbid marsh]

i take E but thats just me

[cobalt robin]

I would but gun is poopoo

[sweet delta]

6 hours of garbage

[cobalt robin]

Pretty much

[turbid marsh]

wait thats 6 hours not 2 hours, then no

[cobalt robin]

[turbid marsh]

me blind

[worldly pewter]

sucks that en has 2+ Es

[turbid marsh]

my EN bloodline is boiling

[cobalt robin]

Cube for me are as garbage as free ones

[worldly pewter]

cube research is the best ship focus research

[cobalt robin]

But I'm not doing ship focus

Especially not with 300 cubes

[worldly pewter]

if for example u got another utter garbage research instead of halford u would take the cube research there

[cobalt robin]

I'll take free instead

[worldly pewter]

purple common isn't the worst but still 8h for a c1 farmer is kinda very antagonistic

[cobalt robin]

3 cubes too precious, I can waste 6 hours

[cobalt robin]

It's 6

It's garbage but my cubes are too precious

[slow fox]

Hmm? There are ~700+ girls in the game.

[worldly pewter]

k now u are trolling

[cobalt robin]

Nuh uh☝🏻

[cobalt robin]

Do you own a washing machine company?

Can I get 1 please

[worldly pewter]

why not add 2h for better loot chances at that point rather than 100% wasting 6h

[slow fox]

No, I'm just a consultant. For eHP queries.

[worldly pewter]

this isn't #gameplay-help discussion

[cobalt robin]

Cause I'm fine with wasting 6 hours rather than using 3 cubes

[ivory pawn]

But the 8 hour is free?

[cobalt robin]

Bro look at my screenshot

[sweet delta]

What's wrong with Halford again?

[cobalt robin]

ITS 6 HOURS

[forest palm]

isn't it like 633 physical ships

[ivory pawn]

Abdou is saying take the leftmost research in the hypothetical.

[worldly pewter]

we are discussing a hypothetical situation

[forest palm]

[cobalt robin]

Oh wait I got a new page now oops

[slow fox]

Something like that. Need at least that many rudders.

[cobalt robin]

Ahem

[robust nymph]

once it says this am i free to leave or do i have to destroy every single ship to have the area secured?

[worldly pewter]

go farm

[cobalt robin]

Collect loot and leave

[cobalt robin]

Don't wanna

[sweet delta]

Farm 5k coins, not hArd

[ivory pawn]

You’re done, just make sure not to miss the loot on your way out or you lose it.

[gilded knot]

Is this that bad? Don't see these on any tier lists

[stark quiver]

if you dont wnna do anything, than just take the shit free research with shit rates

[sweet delta]

/equip it's not on the equipment guide?

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[cobalt robin]

I wasn't asking what to pick, I was just showing that the current free is 6 hours. My brain wasn't working and forgor I got new researches

[ivory pawn]

Nope it’s not.

[cobalt robin]

Imma do 12-4 for agir exp and coins 😔

[gilded knot]

Not on any guides

[robust nymph]

is there instances where you need to clear everything?

[cobalt robin]

In hidden zones? No

[gilded knot]

It's this one

[worldly pewter]

i don't have much of a choice here
go farm

[cobalt robin]

[sweet delta]

Damn, well it used to be the best torp on average against frozen bosses for the off tank vanguard ship. But then improved quad mags made it obsolete

[gilded knot]

Ok wow thanks I need to look harder

[cobalt robin]

is mvp control worth the hassle for vanguard exp or nah

[gilded knot]

Ok got it thanks!

[soft raft]

no not really

[cobalt robin]

it's so much slower than main sadge 😔

[rose cosmos]

What's the priority for pr8? Meck?

[soft raft]

right now pending actual testing, just go for whoever you like more

it's gonna take a long ass while to get them to D30 anyways when it's just shy of a week old

[sweet delta]

She's the only one that pushes the meta ceiling

[wary skiff]

Does lvl 125 have any effect in PvP ? Or is that just pve

[soft raft]

mainly PvE

[sweet delta]

It has effect everywhere

[wary skiff]

So the answer is yes

[wary skiff]

Ty

[worldly pewter]

that is actually in favor of the good progression since u want to be done with the backline tech in a faster pace

[clear harbor]

I have Saint Louis, Monarch, and Neptune researched. Saint Louis is Dev 30 and I've been investing in fate sim for her. But now I'm at Fate Sim level 3 or 4 and progress is notable slow. Should I switch to getting Neptune to Dev 30? For what it's worth, I'm maybe a week or two away from developing Roon with Anchorage up next, assuming I have enough tech points.

[cobalt robin]

[undone plover]

sure if u need neptune
otherwise it doesnt matter much

[eager mulch]

does anyone need Neptune

[stark quiver]

noobs who like to cope

[forest palm]

like a hangover

[narrow kiln]

What meaning do you put into the word "cope"?
(I remembered this word while looking at the ASW bomber's torpedo)

[stark quiver]

they make themselves believe shes very good
eg. "neptune carried me thru chapter x"

[undone plover]

tbh isnt augment neptune pretty good?

[stark quiver]

yea

[narrow kiln]

Yes... (Sorry for changing the subject.) That's exactly what I think when I see this Torpedo.
It's red by the way. (and this is exactly why I told my friend he didn't want a gold ASW bomber)

[worldly pewter]

aurora was impressed with neptune in w14 as far as i remember

[gilded knot]

Which fortification should I choose for Jintsuu META?

[sweet delta]

All

[gilded knot]

Evenly spread?

[forest palm]

Fortification has predetermined values that you max out, it's similar to feeding fodder to regular ships to max their stats out.

basically you can't fuck it up no matter what you do

[hushed sorrel]

i may have forgotten most of early game but i suggest opening gear boxen. those give you good basic equip

[forest palm]

early game is basically boxes, and map farming is a trap

[gilded knot]

Oh? I thought it was some kind of irreversible stat upgrade. Never gave a shit about META ships but then I wanna build Jintsuu META

[forest palm]

I mean it is irreversible technically

[gilded knot]

[worldly pewter]

keep progressing through the maps and do the researches that doesn't cost much or anything when u unlock that feature
mainly the ones that tell u to scrap gear E the ones that tell u to complete commissions and the C ones that don't have any task
there is also a queue function
usually early game u buy tech boxes from event shops but currently there isn't any running

[eager mulch]

limit break ships you are using

[turbid marsh]

you can also see some tier lists or something to get a general idea on the strength of ships, or you can post your dock here (2+ pictures would go for a thread) for help

[verbal plinth]

Always mlb

[dreamy blade]

as far as you can, since you need lv70 to fully limit break

[soft raft]

you have to start from T1/LB1 anyways

[craggy dragon]

How do I get the last star I’ve auto’d the map a bunch but haven’t gotten it

[eternal basalt]

You get one shot each month at that one

[soft raft]

oof it's one of those missions 💀

[craggy dragon]

Omg another one? I got 4 maps of switch mechanics 😭

[eternal basalt]

It takes ~2 years to get all stars

[craggy dragon]

I been playing since 2022 ish 😵‍💫

[hushed sorrel]

its blueprints and not the equip. so i wouldnt recommend that

[ivory pawn]

Always rush boss unless you're going for the 3rd star on the stage.

[eternal basalt]

All enemies. SR gear (events) drops from siren and bosses

Ryza event drops are terrible though just so you know

[craggy dragon]

Is this what a switch mechanism looks like? I know I’d have to go into the explorable zone to double check if I’ve missed it

[ivory pawn]

Should be the one you need two fleets for.

[eternal basalt]

Switch is 2 fleets to summon a box

[craggy dragon]

Ohh okay thanks

Wait is that a monthly thing as well? I could swear I’ve seen that when doing autos in the secured zones

[ivory pawn]

It's a monthly thing yes.

[sweet delta]

Switches can appear in hidden zones, which don't count for stars

[craggy dragon]

Okay so only the explorable zone counts

😭

[forest palm]

[flint sonnet]

Is Guam or anchorage a better tank? Or do they go together?

[soft raft]

I think they're roughly the same amount of tankiness
Guam is a AA carry while Anchorage is more focused on using her smokes to boost the team's EVA rate

They could go together, but sometimes that might not be a good idea depending on the content

[white agate]

isn't there like an order to clear areas allowing you to do all of them in like 4 months?

[eternal basalt]

It's purely random, you're thinking of files, and those can be done in 2 months

[white agate]

oh yeah, i was thinking of those

[queen mist]

Can you disable the skin projection feature for random secretary slots?

How does one do that? Is it a setting or

[forest palm]

2 years feels generous for some of the Star Missions cause you can get really unlucky with some shit lol

[mental meadow]

how do i get to the weather generator/control tower?

[sweet delta]

Guam is the better ship almost everywhere , assuming both are maxed

[sweet delta]

Bricked hidden zone

[eternal basalt]

Took me around 2 years soooo...

[sweet delta]

Not sure if the other reinforcement points you can reach, actually give rewards. Maybe do them then quit

[eternal basalt]

Atleast do the 2 cats to the left there

[mental meadow]

:/ ty

[fallen jay]

does anyone have a better image of the gearlab thing? I tried zooming in on it and its to blurry for me to make out what any of it says

[soft raft]

have you tried the "Open in browser" button

[fallen jay]

yeah i just tried it again after restarting my computer its still blurry

any other way I can access it and make it not blurry?

[stark quiver]

download the image

[fallen jay]

Ill do that

[forest palm]

not everyone is use, soooo

[fallen jay]

It worked!

Thank you so much for the advice!

ok reading it now i am very much lost already...so

[sweet delta]

It is just a list of good things to craft in each category. But what it doesn't tell you is which column to go first and how many to get

[fallen jay]

oof big oof

[sweet delta]

First you can get tenzan Kai because it doesn't cost gold materials, then ju87d and wyvern and whatever vanguard gun you need

[fallen jay]

the what from where?

[sweet delta]

those are torpedo bombers from Sakura, iron blood, and royal navy

For vanguard guns you can consider Sakura CL gun 155mm Kai and Ironblood DD gun twin 128

[fallen jay]

so leave it at tenzan kai when i get to it?

man im missing a lot of materials from siren ops

[hallow mountain]

This any good?

I built it since I have enough blueprints and I'm just curious what it does

Also since it's Yamato's smaller guns so I'm assuming they're good

[wind hazel]

it's good on shimanto before FS5 to further boost AA

... that's about it

[hallow mountain]

How about on other BBs

[wind hazel]

no

[hallow mountain]

Damn aight

[blissful hamlet]

should d7p equip AA gun or torps on her second slot?

[wind hazel]

AA

[blissful hamlet]

regular AA or carry?

[wind hazel]

76 both if you're rich

[blissful hamlet]

I'm no rich

[wind hazel]

well where are you using her?

and with who, what fleet

[blissful hamlet]

for xp grind

[wind hazel]

then it doesnt matter, she can be gearless

[blissful hamlet]

it does matter

I need her for mvp

[wind hazel]

then put gear on her

[blissful hamlet]

that is exacly why I asked my first question

[wind hazel]

and i've answered it...

[eager marsh]

now hug

[blissful hamlet]

I'm no rich

[wind hazel]

put two roomba

she can get mvp easily in w12 because of AA lol

[blissful hamlet]

why not 2 sextuple?

[wind hazel]

because you're not rich

[blissful hamlet]

I am rich

[stoic basalt]

is it worth +13 the prototype 406 mk2

[hollow gust]

This is such a stupid discussion

[sweet delta]

Mk.II Lion gun yes it's the best HE BB gun rn

[tropic tusk]

Is this good?

[wind hazel]

what even is ASR

[tropic tusk]

Just asking full upgrade as in +13?

[ivory pawn]

[sweet delta]

Think about when you would use it at +10 even

[tropic tusk]

Do more dmg to anti sub? Lol tho I see no point of killing a sub as they will just go away

[wind hazel]

[viscid swift]

It can literally only be equipped on subs

[ivory pawn]

Just seems to increase the range of the subs on the grid map, which honestly sounds kinda eh for equipment.

[tropic tusk]

Put on sub to kill anti subs

[viscid swift]

Considering that there is this rather wonderful thing called moving the sub fleet which basically does the same thing at the cost of some oil....

[slow fox]

Isn't it also manual? If I wanted to auto subs, I want them to participate in as many battles as possible without me moving the sub fleet twice or thrice.

[sweet delta]

Same

[left wasp]

Still wondering what are the main methods of leveling aside from using exp packs, dorm, and grinding certain stages

cuz rn I keep noticing most of my ships are under lvl 125

[sweet delta]

Grinding certain stages is the #1 method

Oil exists to be spent

[left wasp]

hmm
is it basically whatever is the highest level you can do?

[soft raft]

namely 12-1/12-4
or at the very least anywhere W9 and above

if you cant even do that, then whatever the highest stage you can comftorably clear

[left wasp]

oh
what's the difference between 12-1 and 12-4 for exp

cuz rn I'm doing 12-1;

[sweet delta]

/wiki user:suchiguma/auto

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suchiguma/AutoSearch

[soft raft]

12-1 is more oil/xp efficent and 12-4 is more oil/gold efficent

[sweet delta]

Mob exp per oil is the important metric I suppose

[left wasp]

I wonder why 11-1 is listed like that despite the main reccs being 12-1 and 12-4

at least I know I unlocked the best farming world when events aren't around

[sweet delta]

Because 11-1 has zero chips and worse coins

I have insider information that the author of that page will add expected coins soon

[left wasp]

oh I see
I now see coins in the thousands for each clear now
what's the expected coins for 12-4 again?

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 12x

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_12

[sweet delta]

See the table at the top, though data is missing for many chapters

[left wasp]

wow
and this is like the only stage I've really seen like this

I do wonder how many clears in 12-1 it would usually take to get a shipgirl from 100-125

I usually just spend exp packs for the 1-100 part

[sweet delta]

3445k for nonnative rainbow ships would take like 450 sorties of 12-4

Which is 30 days at 15 sorties per day

But remember that you can level 6 ships in the mob fleet simultaneously

[zenith heron]

I think 12-1 is best for Exp per Oil, while 12-4 is best for coin per oil

[undone tundra]

In fact only consider exp per oil as the table tell, is 11-1
For coin per oil, is 14-4

But 12-4 you can easily level 6 ships while farming coins
12-1 you can hv much more coins than farming in 11-1 while not much different in exp

[left wasp]

so ig w12-4 is equivalent to AK's 1-7 for "just do this stage if you feel like you have nothing to spend your energy on and there's no event"

[turbid marsh]

I praise 15-1

[undone tundra]

15-1 is for chips per oil while you can still level up maybe 3 to 4 ships? and also decent coins
but this requie you to have a raff or musashi and some else specific ships (i havent try yet so idk what exactly needed

[fleet berry]

The difference is less than 0.5 mob EXP/oil according to Suchi's table, so ~150 EXP per sorties. It's a drop in the bucket.

I think you ran 12-1 for better chips efficiency or easier difficulty.

[sweet delta]

I did 13-1 for 2 years for chips

And I almost ran out of gray plates

[whole crypt]

fine I'll grind 12-4 instead

[fleet berry]

Wait, are you caught up with your chips already? I remember you posted something like that in the big sub.

[clear harbor]

I think I sped through too much OpSi story. I'm in Chapter 4 and I don't see any obvious quest markers. Do I just clear out more zones? Maybe the ones next to ports that I haven't unlocked?

[ivory pawn]

There's several points you just need to clear zones in specific regions.

[undone tundra]

bro need to go back w12💀

[ivory pawn]

Can check Information to get an idea of what to do next.

[whole crypt]

this many now

I still have 5 ships that will need chips, but I think you know which 5 and I'm not in a hurry

[worldly pewter]

is this while low costing the event B stages ?

[fleet berry]

Remember to allocate the Yumia girls too.

[stark quiver]

do you +13 just about every UR gear you have

[whole crypt]

not every but more than I should be probably

[eager mulch]

wyvern still the only plane that takes UR plane prints right?

[stark quiver]

uhh yes

[eager mulch]

wdym

[stark quiver]

you are indeed correct Mr. Turtle

[eager mulch]

who’s turtle

[whole crypt]

event shop will have and at worst I buy the pack again, if same as DOA and SSSS format we're not expecting that many new girls

[eager mulch]

cheeky is typing what is he gonna say?

[viscid swift]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we got 4 new ships since there's only 4 female MCs in Yumina

[forest palm]

they stretched what we got out of Ryza

[soft raft]

Anyone got the livestream link?

[forest palm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW1h872rD-0

[undone tundra]

i just care about how many thick tights we can have in the colab

[whole crypt]

4 is manageable, even if 3 SRs its just 8k chips total

[spare harbor]

anything worth buying from the meta shop rn

[forest palm]

nothing a newer player should be concerned with

[soft raft]

the ships there are all purely tech fodder

[wind oxide]

🤝

[undone tundra]

and when will ssss rerun again , i want one more the fire dragon gear(idk what it calls in en but it can add reload of vanguard)

[soft raft]

We dunno, tho I frankly wouldnt get your hopes up

it was already considered miraculous for collas to be able to get reruns in general back when they first happened

[whole crypt]

I too want more goldburns, but you know it's not happening

[normal cedar]

is sendai worth using for bosses in meta, opsi

[vale spindle]

no

[normal cedar]

ok, got it, thanks

[undone tundra]

i need one more for all 3 vanguard can hv one each, hope manjuu may make one more similar gear to be accessible to newbies permanently

[whole crypt]

don't we all

[forest palm]

just make it a perm itme la

[undone tundra]

true

[south python]

How necessary is defeating the hard arbiter in opsi every month for loot grinding? I got shreked on my first goof run testing it out

[forest palm]

not very, it just amounts to a bit more vouchers, the bulk of the desirable rewards are on Normal, though if you can reduce Harbiter's HP down to 25% that's also good enough

[undone tundra]

it account for only around 1% of the loot in opsi monthly, dun be sad if you cant defeat it

just try your best to reduce as much hp as you can is ok

[south python]

o7

[severe tinsel]

Guys is admiral good ship? I need ib main fleet exp for fdg research

The only main fleet ib i got are zwei and her

[wind hazel]

good ship

[forest palm]

not MLB though

[severe tinsel]

What she good at?

[wind hazel]

uh, generally good damage

[severe tinsel]

Ok

[wind hazel]

whatever she's good at will be overshadowed by zwei anyway

go get one of the scharn sister, also a BC, and you can grind with 3 ironblood ships

[jade sable]

What does the red symbol mean next

[verbal thistle]

Are the HVAR-mounted Hellcats event-only?

Rough.. Thank you.

[stark quiver]

go either regroup and rest feature, or fight a battle

[plain saffron]

Low resolve or something, some stat debuff and can't fight boss node

[jade sable]

Ty

[plain saffron]

Usually after losing

[forest palm]

Low Resolve is correct

[jade sable]

Yeah I got my butt kicked and had to go repair but this symbol didn’t go away so I was confused

[forest palm]

there's an in game tool tip that goes over these things

[ruby grotto]

is there a way to catch up on some specialized bulin? The game releases more UR in recent time than the amount of specialized core we can get every month to exchange for specialized bulins

[stark quiver]

who even reads those

[jade sable]

I literally can’t read

[wind hazel]

by playing longer

i kid you not, but it's the only way

[ruby grotto]

i've played for 2 years now, and I still have more UR that needs LB than specialized bulins, i max out every month for 2 years

[wind hazel]

play longer

[ruby grotto]

the game keeps releasing UR though..

[stark quiver]

have good prios for URs

[wind hazel]

i know, but play longer. URin is literally time gated resources, there's no other way to increase its supply other than play longer

[ruby grotto]

ok thanks, just checking if there's another way

[forest palm]

I feel as though the income of UR Bulin is enough that you can catch up, but have to be rather patient

[stark quiver]

i am older than the term Ultra rare, but got my shinano from perma pity

[forest palm]

AL certainly ain't the first to use UR

[wind hazel]

getting lucky will also decrease the URin required by small amount. play longer, get lucky and score dupes, and you will catch up... eventually

or whale cubes and go beyond 1st pity

[forest palm]

we do a little fishin lads

[ruby grotto]

i supported the game enough with 700 port slots, no more spending lol. Haven't LB UvH at all, thought about doing it for Mecklenburg research xp but ehh, thanks

[hollow gust]

Income exceeds number of URs

[wind hazel]

you sure?

[wind oxide]

Pretty sure threw a trash bag into space at work

[nova burrow]

I mean the one UR bullin u get from the season pass also helps

[hollow gust]

1 year is 6 URs requiring maxed 24 bulins
Yearly income :
6 from event milestone
15 monthly gain
9 medal ship
6 cruise pass

[sweet delta]

4 from new event milestone

[wind hazel]

how do you get 6 UR

isn't it at least 4 new UR and 3 rerun? not including 2nd UR

^as in duo UR like z52 mog traf etc

[wind oxide]

How do we get UR bulins from medal shop???

[undone tundra]

2 2nd UR usually, cn ser anni and end of year event, so for newbies are 6 new UR and 3 rerun,
at most 36 bulins actually

[undone tundra]

speciallized core stuff can be bought from medal shop

[wind oxide]

[wind hazel]

and if we assume players do get the 2nd copy from the shop, isn't it still in slight deficit

[undone tundra]

if you need to mlb the rerun, then yes

[wind hazel]

moral of the story, get lucky

[undone tundra]

but if the rerun start to be the characters you've mlb, then its catching up the progress

[sweet delta]

you also need to add a 4 bulin deficit for the average new player who put 4 bulins in shimakaze

[hollow gust]

And UVH

[undone tundra]

[wet prairie]

Is ectl down?

Says “GitHub down”

[wispy cosmos]

shouldnt be

[hollow gust]

its your side

[wet prairie]

Is there an updated link?

Githubs showing 404

[nova halo]

how i can fix the freeze bug?

it's so annoying

[eternal basalt]

What freeze bug? There is no freeze bug?

[nova halo]

still encountering with it

playing on LD9

[eternal basalt]

Then use a proper emulator

[whole crypt]

any fast launchers for KMS besides UvH

none of their carriers have any fast gimmick off the top of my head?

[inner delta]

check the light carriers? i dont think so either

[copper pine]

do i need to max eldridge and also laffey 2 for making team easier for W15-3 and 4

[stark quiver]

max level and stats will help a lot

[copper pine]

125 already on both, but i guess their AA is the key eh

[signal leaf]

are the cuniberti torpedos mid? and uh why?

[wispy cosmos]

do u count seydlitz

[wind hazel]

non acoustic/magnetic, DOA for pve

if you manual then it's another story

[wispy cosmos]

theyre just a gold fast torp, think your triple 550 replacement

[signal leaf]

Ohh okay, that recent pr8 gear guide told me cuniberti's torpedo are "the best non magnetic/homing torpedo" 💔 but then told me it wasnt worth using and its dps with cuniberti was equal to a blue torp

So I was really confused

[stark quiver]

Who here are the tankiest with decent tech

[wind hazel]

carl i think

tallinn is tanky too but not good tech

[stark quiver]

at this rate ima run out of gold bulins

[stark quiver]

would it be an awlful decision to buy 3 URins for kronk
only 12k speccore

well make that buying 1

[undone tundra]

i think it is not a good decision if you have other UR girls waiting for URins

[wind hazel]

sounds like very bad

if jp anni drops 2 UR you're fucked

[stark quiver]

i dont, well at the current moment at least

[signal leaf]

uh yeah this is what confused me lol

[undone tundra]

but i guess most likely 1 UR only so

[wind hazel]

i mean everything is summarized there

[signal leaf]

like wdym best non magnetic/homing torpedos

[stark quiver]

it means that it says?

[wind hazel]

it means it's the best torpedo on manual play

non magnetic or homing in auto is trash because it won't be hitting anything

[signal leaf]

confused about that last part two

"dps in 80 seconds is equal with the torpedo and with a blue torp"

[wind hazel]

what's confusing about it

[stark quiver]

it means, blue 550 gets off 5 shots in 80s, compared to the si270 getting off 4

[wind hazel]

+13 a gold torp only to equal a +7 blue torp is bad value

[stark quiver]

and the 5 shot damage from 550 is equal to 4 shot from si270

[signal leaf]

i mean like arent gold torps supposed to be quite a bit better than a blue torp in terms of pure damage

so I wasnt expecting it to compete with a blue torp

[stark quiver]

the literal 5th shot just evens it out

[wind hazel]

you know how yamato gun vs champy gun works?

[plain saffron]

But i thought youtube guide bad

[signal leaf]

uh no

[wind hazel]

why does yamato gun, the UR BB gun, loses out to a gold champy gun? now apply that here

[signal leaf]

isnt the yamato gun big damage but slow reload

[wind hazel]

yes, you understand that

now switch the gun with torpedo

[stark quiver]

just put yamato gun on uvh

[wispy cosmos]

the best non mag torp statement i assume is only comparing paper numbers

with the 2x2 straight pattern and slower speed id rather take one of the normal quints still

[white agate]

i just +13 the magnetic ur torp, i feel scammed

[signal leaf]

so the cuniberti torps have bigger damage but slower reload vs the blue torp with lower damage but faster reload

[wind hazel]

at least they look good

[signal leaf]

ahh okay

[stark quiver]

yes, and in a 80s battle, it evens out the damage

[white agate]

so basically all pr8 gold gear is mid or a sidegrade of an already existing gear?

[wispy cosmos]

the torps and arguably the ca gun are niche upgrades

[signal leaf]

okay so 5 reloads assuming all of its torpedos were to hit would deal base damage of 1080, while the cuniberti torps would deal in 4 reloads, 2160? I dont get it

[wind hazel]

ask the youtuber

[signal leaf]

108x2x5 = 1080 135x4x4 = 2160

[wind hazel]

you're assuming they all hit

[signal leaf]

yes im assuming they all hit

[wind hazel]

i dont think suchi gave that number based on 100% hit probability

[signal leaf]

no modifiers, no armor etc

[signal leaf]

well theyre both non homing

[wind hazel]

yeah but spread pattern, speed etc will affect the outcome

[signal leaf]

true...

[white agate]

acoustic torp are the best

[signal leaf]

cuniberti's torpedos have 0 angle of spread so im assuming it would hit? idk

[wind hazel]

@sweet delta take over, i'm too smoothed brain for this 😭

[stark quiver]

good luck mori

maybe its the shot land time/velocity, ammo type , spread, pattern
pick between the 4

[cobalt rapids]

in vittorios case its not the torps its this because of the assumed extra torp launch, the gold torps are better in normal circumstances even if they get 1 less rld in terms of dmg
blue torps deal doodoo dmg

[signal leaf]

so the blue torp is basically good for proccing skills

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[signal leaf]

yay ty

[storm olive]

Unless that skill is based on number of torp hits then no

I think that's only like 1 or 2 ships and I don't remember them so it's probably not that relevant

[cobalt rapids]

true :kitakazepat:

[wind hazel]

[storm olive]

Oh Kita

[sinful fern]

Is it possible to play azur lane as a f2p solely for the skins? If i dont use gems for dorm and slots can i still progress?

[undone tundra]

Not really I guess

[cobalt rapids]

u can get like 5 skins and then u can get like 1 skin every 2 years with f2p currency

[undone tundra]

Quite impractical

[signal leaf]

the goon must come with a price

well the regular ships already suffice so its technically a higher level of goon

[sinful fern]

Couldnt ask for more as a f2p

I thought it was 3 or something

[fierce lantern]

When’s this games anniversary

[whole crypt]

I thought of it but just going to try 460 Odin plus Strasser/AvP

have to wait another hour or so to see how it works out

[whole crypt]

EN's anniv is in Aug

[robust nymph]

roughly how long would it take in average to get 5 pieces of this from researching iv?

[whole crypt]

with a gear focus potentially 1-2 days

[robust nymph]

which one would you pick for gear focus? im doing short ones that cost gold or gear, which is g and q

[whole crypt]

are you still focusing pr4

[robust nymph]

no i just switched to pr4 to get these 5 pieces then i go back to 7

[cobalt robin]

i keep getting prints for stupid air radar

[whole crypt]

do you have proto cores to spare

I'd just buy the prints and stay on 7

[robust nymph]

technically yes but thats how i already got the 20 that you see lol

[whole crypt]

if you're only after 5 prints I'd say wait for next month

[cobalt robin]

Then next month

[robust nymph]

oh really not worth to try iv research? i thought it woulda been fast for only 5. but if you say so idm going back to 7 really

[whole crypt]

not worth wasting time for a few prints of a single gear

[cobalt robin]

Eldridge retro item is gonna rerun soon right? So I can already start leveling and mlb her

[whole crypt]

if you were focusing pr4 overall to wrap up the ships or a tenrai maybe

but you're otherwise going to be spending a few unproductive days waiting for 5 prints now

[robust nymph]

understandable, just out of curiosity at this point tho, if you wanna "gear focus" do you do g and q or something else?

[whole crypt]

we don't know because too little precedence to be sure, but likely rerunning with this year's EN anniv

[eternal basalt]

Nobody knows. I think there will be a new item, but will it rerun the old?

[whole crypt]

someone send him gear focus list or something I don't want to type it out on phone

[cobalt robin]

Alright

[cobalt robin]

There

[robust nymph]

is it like the priority of what youd choose?

[whole crypt]

I think the chances of new rainbow retrofits in consecutive years is fairly low, no way to be sure of course

[cobalt robin]

for gear focus you wanna prioritize Q, refer to this image @robust nymph

[eternal basalt]

It's the only way to give EN a UR so I think it's faitly likely, but we'll see next month

[cobalt robin]

If there's no Q you can take G

[whole crypt]

yes, for max expected rainbow gear prints

[cobalt robin]

😔

[whole crypt]

I'm not against it becoming a regular fixture, but I guess we'll find out

[white agate]

someone may remember me, we get anni update around start or middle of august?

[whole crypt]

mid

[eternal basalt]

Never start of month, that's when the old event runs

EN's probably the 14th, since anni is 15th

[ashen moon]

I was looking at the starter guide and was wondering if i can replace Portland with Eugen since got her for free

Understood

[whole crypt]

it's less of a you can't and more of a you shouldn't

[ashen moon]

can i ask why exactly?

[wind hazel]

she uses gold bulin to limit break, which is scarce

[ashen moon]

Oh I see i was wondering why i couldnt see resources for her limit break

[eternal basalt]

Portland is better than Eugen too

[robust nymph]

is the new twin40mm better than other bofors in the image and better than twin 105 mm?

[muted crescent]

It’s actually really good, not better than the staag tho. Usually BBs have priority for this

[muted crescent]

That aside you can legit use that in gear lab for the staag so…

[robust nymph]

i miss a lot of the items for gear lab, so i cant really do much in there yet

[robust nymph]

oh i gave it to helena, guess ill swap back

[inland shoal]

Yeah it's not a good gun to give actual AA ships

[muted crescent]

are purple twin 134 aa guns useable as poverty gear?

fairs

[wind hazel]

im not sure if those exist as AA gun

[muted crescent]

I realised that they're dd guns 💀

[wind hazel]

ye and they are poopoo too

[cobalt robin]

bro is swimming in quads

[muted crescent]

I still dunno how he only has 1 staag but ALL the quads 💀

[wind hazel]

one of them can be gotten from techbox. guess which one

[cobalt robin]

You get em from tech boxes but staag from researches

[muted crescent]

well yeah but I have a staag and not a single quad 😭

[wind hazel]

you either have atrociously bad luck or you barely opened any techbox

[cobalt robin]

and if you're unlucky like me and get 2 air radars before first staag/hazemeyer ggs

[muted crescent]

I got 1 the same time as my staag lol

[cobalt robin]

I had enough prints for 2 air radars when I was not even halfway for both aa guns

[cobalt robin]

Probably the latter

[warped acorn]

air radars?

[cobalt robin]

Yes

[muted crescent]

I got more STAAG prints than air radar prints 💀

[warped acorn]

damn I don't remember having 1 of that

[cobalt robin]

It's from research

It's pretty much a meme

[warped acorn]

oh

[robust nymph]

the bofors are from chests right? i remember back then i used to spend 25k to buy 5packs of chests, may be why

[cobalt robin]

My luck works the opposite

[cobalt robin]

Yea from tech boxes

There's multiple bofors aa guns

[warped acorn]

damn ur so rich to do that

[robust nymph]

no i was just clueless and back then researches were a new thing i didnt understand, only pr1 was released

[cobalt robin]

staag, haze, quad are all bofors but there's one true Sexy bofors, it's the sextuple

[robust nymph]

ye i meant quad

which one do i prio btw?

i guess ill do red one first so i can do yellow one of Indepence without running out

[whole crypt]

you want to max both anyway

[warped acorn]

for the grant donation, 1 hour half is better than 2 and 4?

[wise knoll]

sorry if this is answered a million times but how do you exactly clear this? i already clear all the map nodes in opsi

[wispy cosmos]

yes, you want to just use gs as refresh usually

[warped acorn]

oh, also does the 30 min research only applies on dr or also possible for pr

[rapid moth]

If I recall correctly, it's hitting the special tiles where you get a minor boost to one of the 3 adapt stats. So you'll get it over time by just clearing/repeating that specific zone.

[carmine heath]

is there a wiki page for the monthly challenges?

[wise knoll]

thanks!

[balmy wharf]

Does W14 hard mode not exist?

[wind oxide]

We have hard for up until chapter 13 only

[wary skiff]

Is raff a better mob healer than uni?

[zenith heron]

No, she won't, considering Unicorn is instant per airstrike, while Raffaelo needs her or her Allies to kill said target with the Black Paint to proc the heal, also that heal only applies to what ship killed that enemy with the Black Paint within that Battle...

[wary skiff]

Ah gotcha thanks. I did read she was the closest UR healer but unaware she’s still gapped by sr

[split gazelle]

just use both, raff is a good mobbing bb iirc

[zenith heron]

still due to her support capabilities, she is preferred in mob, only behind by Musashi in mob only...

[eternal basalt]

w16 first

[balmy wharf]

When is W16 expected to release?

[wind oxide]

very soon

[cobalt robin]

Is the ur twin 76 aa gun worth the absurd amount of electronics

[wind hazel]

it's the best

[cobalt robin]

or should I get gear

[cobalt robin]

Well yea ik but so expensive 😔😔😔

[wind hazel]

because it's the best...

[cobalt robin]

But is it a priority?

[wind hazel]

no

[cobalt robin]

I could make the gold twin 76

[wind hazel]

pointless

[cobalt robin]

I'll just get some other stuff

[eternal basalt]

~~Then why ask, if the answer is yes, and you go "I make something else" ~~

[cobalt robin]

Didn't ask properly, wanted to know if it's a priority like wyvern

[wind hazel]

it's the opposite

[cobalt robin]

damn

[eternal basalt]

Unless you enter w14+, then it's the opposite of the opposite...

[cobalt robin]

I need 3 more levels for that

[wind hazel]

it's good and will help for w15 but it's not necessary either

of all UR gear it's one of the last ones you want to get

what

[cobalt robin]

I'm just not sure what gear to go for next, I have a flapjack, 2x ryuusei, 1x ju87, 1x wyvern, couple quad mag torps

One saiun Kai as well

[eternal basalt]

My bad, thought it didn't intercept instead of DID intercept

[wind hazel]

more TBs, tenrai, twin 100, mk7, yadayada, then 76

[cobalt robin]

Alright

[worldly pewter]

if u aren't going to buy bf with proto get it from the gear lab too

[wind oxide]

and arent you going to need more flapjacks? or just one is enough?

[wind hazel]

more is better

[wind oxide]

coz i had like 3

[worldly pewter]

when u are going to do w15 u want like 4-5 that is it

[whole crypt]

nothing is expensive in lab after a few years

[wind oxide]

T3 ord isnt expensive you get 6 in two months easily

[worldly pewter]

wait until they put the ply gun in the gear lab

[narrow kiln]

What is recommended to do first: Flapjack or Wyvern?
(I'm still accumulating resources because I don't have many of them and I'm thinking about it now.)

[wind hazel]

wyvern

[gaunt cedar]

i got 4 ur bullins do i mlb trafalgar if i dont have lion? only other urs i have are bisz and shinano

[narrow kiln]

Are the intermediate options from purple plane to wyvern effective?
(those needed to create the wyvern itself)

[wind hazel]

zwei first

if zwei and shinano already mlb then sure i guess

[gaunt cedar]

bisz and shinano are both mlb my bad

[wind hazel]

no

[worldly pewter]

i heard that one of them has the same performance as the golden barracuda

[narrow kiln]

And they are not better than Barracuda?

[wind hazel]

i mean it doesn't matter even if they perform the same or slight upgrade than barracuda, using them would mean enhancing, waste of coin when you turn it into wyvern later on lol

[narrow kiln]

Got it. I'll keep using Barracuda while I make Wyvern.
How effective is Wyvern against bosses?

[robust nymph]

toll of war doesnt influence xp gained and i can just ignore it yes?

[wind hazel]

not for bosses, usually for mobbing purposes

well i guess it's ok as campaign boss

[whole crypt]

OS XP is shit anyway but yes
it affects XP in the sense you will get less if you keep getting As instead of Ss

[worldly pewter]

the return isn't 1:1 after the upgrade ?

[wind oxide]

it is gone once you win a mob fight anyway

[robust nymph]

i healed the ship back to 100% so i shouldnt get A ranks unless hp goes to 0 again right?

[whole crypt]

as long as no one sinks

[wind hazel]

partial coin i think? and full plates, something something i dont remember exact 25% coin refund and all plates

[whole crypt]

but ships with toll also have reduced stats so

[robust nymph]

ye idm the stats, ty

[narrow kiln]

This is a different debuff.
(It disables skills, which can make the fight much more difficult)

[whole crypt]

low morale is low morale
toll of war is toll of war

[worldly pewter]

and opsi xp is a meme

[whole crypt]

it isn't if you do enough of it but it's extremely low XP/time

though if you're just waiting for morale regen anyway

[worldly pewter]

yeah in the end for someone who isn't doing the hardcore chore S or A won't matter i think

[whole crypt]

well I can tell you how the numbers work or not but I personally don't value XP very much so it's hard to opine

[forest palm]

it's ultimately free XP you can do w/e you want with

[whole crypt]

it's free XP if you don't mind the trouble of swapping ships
I was going to say slower runs but if you're Lion-carrying everything's done in 15s or less anyway

naturally the fleet would also not really be in a position to conveniently trample over strongholds and abyssals

[wind oxide]

Do we have node exp stats for opsi?

[forest palm]

not a lot of people can do that

[whole crypt]

people who can't easily roll over strongholds shouldn't really be making OS leveling a serious consideration, besides just using not maxed ships for not actually having maxed ships

[forest palm]

no you included Abyssal, not many can do that

[whole crypt]

c4 and 5 tend to be rather trivial if you can roll over strongholds

c6 with a bad roll of modifiers can be a problem yes

[undone plover]

They should be on wiki

I think it was per corrosion
I remember c1 being 200 base xp per node

[forest palm]

though honestly there's a lot of value to the xp given out to first nodes of the month

[whole crypt]

there's even more when you're burning AP

[balmy wharf]

For my 15-3 boss fleet, should I use Anchorage, Napoli, Aegir, Azuma, khronstadt? Or someone’s else for my Tank?

[whole crypt]

I'd probably pick Napoli but shouldn't really matter

[balmy wharf]

Ok thanks

[forest palm]

free XP is free XP I don't know what there's to bitch about it's of the players own discrection how they choose to use it

[whole crypt]

gearing and the whole fleet comp is more important

at no point did I say to not use the free XP, it's more of something you should avoid if it makes you struggle with the mode when there are better options

[worldly pewter]

as far as i remember the boss doesn't have any vanguard pressure it is all on the backline

or maybe because i was using 2 la9 on lethal

[balmy wharf]

Well my front and back line almost both got wiped so…

Are you not supposed to use LA9 here? All my carriers use that one…

[whole crypt]

if you're losing the fleet the problem is definitely not just your tank

[worldly pewter]

yeah only use la9 when u really know what u are doing

[whole crypt]

if you knew what you were doing you probably wouldn't be using La-9 at all

[balmy wharf]

I don’t know what I’m doing lol

[whole crypt]

for a start you're using very bad options for the support fleet besides Nakhimov

[balmy wharf]

But the bigger problem right now is my mob fleet getting curb stomped

[balmy wharf]

What should I be using then?

[whole crypt]

possibly gearing issue

[wind oxide]

Dayum that's one of a fleet comp

[balmy wharf]

One of yall cooked it up for me a few days ago so don’t blame me lol

[whole crypt]

Illustrious, Implacable, Hwah Jia retrofit, anything with large fighter loadouts

[balmy wharf]

I have all three, but they’re either level 70 or non limit broken

[whole crypt]

the support fleet doesn't do anything besides launch fighters for intercept meaning even on Nakhimov if her flex slot isn't a fighter she's not doing much there

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/

also if you just started having problems from 15-3 don't forget about ASW

[hushed sorrel]

if you are preparing the support fleet you must likely want to get the good fighter too

[wind oxide]

What? i didnt say its bad

I used that exact same van for mob too

[whole crypt]

nothing inherently wrong with the 2 main fleets ships

[balmy wharf]

Ah I thought you said something along the lines of “that’s one of the comps of all time”

[undone plover]

Is musashi not flag on purpose?

[balmy wharf]

She dies first, taunt skill draws all attacks on her

[whole crypt]

consider using a different UR BB it's not like there's any real advantage to using her there

if it's for the 3 IJN req on Shinano considering swapping out all 3

just check the guide if you don't know what else to use

[balmy wharf]

If need be, I can redeem all my UR Bulins and MLB Implac2

[undone plover]

I think it could possibly be gear issue as well
Cuz that fleet should work in theory
Unless the average dps makes waves too long

[balmy wharf]

Ok, what can I do to improve these fleets then?

[undone plover]

Would traf not be better than cheshire
Her AA was pretty decent I believe and her dps would help

[balmy wharf]

I can try

[worldly pewter]

i know what i m doing that is why i cleared with la9 i don't know where is the problem in that

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething read the guide

there are ship reccs and also gearing which might be a part of the problem

[balmy wharf]

I just use whatever gear is listed at the top in the community tier list for each ship, that’s probably not ideal then?

[undone plover]

Make a thread
Show me the boss fleet gear pls
If u have a thread just link it

[whole crypt]

ECTL gearing is listed by least likely to screw you up, not best for the job

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/ read this one instead

[worldly pewter]

BTW that is very fixable by just moving fritz to support use lion instead of raff and add a pseudo healer

[whole crypt]

Raff is probably fine I have a feeling even just fixing the gear is going to change things significantly
not sure about the IJN mains though

[undone plover]

I would boss lion and mob musashi/raffa tbh

[narrow kiln]

By the way, has anyone checked the work of ASW bombers in the support fleet?
(I ask as a person who hasn't even completed Chapter 10)

[balmy wharf]

Gearing W15

[undone plover]

If u link to thread it would be better to avoid confusion

[whole crypt]

I'm not going to bother testing but my guess is it won't work and there's also no reason to try to ASW from support fleet

[boreal wagon]

the support fleet wouldnt launch it anyway
supprot fleet only launches fighters

[whole crypt]

if you haven't cleared ch10 yet it's really not something to bother with now

ch15 is going to be months off from clearing ch10, possibly years

[narrow kiln]

Also, I myself don’t particularly want to rush anywhere...
Which clearly doesn’t speed up progress.

[whole crypt]

well the best place to be parking is ch12 and it's not that far from 10

it's 14+ that's a really big jump

[narrow kiln]

Right now I'm more interested in MLB of all three of the Yorktown class.
Аnd I want to get more Eagle Union tech points...

[tropic tusk]

which 3

[narrow kiln]

the three that are considered yorktown class, except Little E

[warped acorn]

[tropic tusk]

so which 3 are u doing ,since theres 4

[narrow kiln]

I'm in the mood for everyone to read today. XD
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Yorktown_class

[trim path]

york II not?

[tropic tusk]

yea theres 4

[narrow kiln]

I don't know how or why.
But the Yorktown and Hornet Type II - Essex class

[trim path]

huh

[sinful fern]

Are there any events i should save up cubes for?

[tropic tusk]

u send linke it does say 4

[rapid summit]

Will the construction pool update get rid of any of the ultra rares?

[trim path]

URs. outside of that, do 1 light build a day for daily

[narrow kiln]

Above I wrote that exept Little E

[cobalt rapids]

yk2 is essex class indeed
they alr said they wanna mlb yorktown enty and hornet

[sinful fern]

Like UR rate up banners? I heard there's anni comming soon. Should i save for that?

[nova burrow]

Because yorktown and hornet got sunk - after performing execeptionly - so in honour of them the 2 essex got named hornet/yorktown 2

[trim path]

yes. just do 1 light build a day until then

[narrow kiln]

Hmm... I'll know why they gave them this class in the game.

[turbid marsh]

you can watch on youtube on the lore for that event, basically commander saves them, got new rigging and stuff

[narrow kiln]

I am not a particular seeker of lore in this game.
Knowledge, general knowledge about Sirens is enough for me. Maybe someday I will get together and read NP themed events.

[cobalt robin]

yes watch lore videos, some of em are amazing, don't watch yt guides or tips and tricks, those are poopoo

[hushed sorrel]

they arent bad but get fast outdated. if they show something that will work in like chap 14 and that will still work years later

[cobalt robin]

Most have some very questionable stuff

Watched a guide from 2024 where they said to get akagi and kaga cause they're very good together 💀💀

That's not outdated that's just bs

[hushed sorrel]

dont they boost each other? and those are really old ships

[cobalt robin]

Yes but they are still bad even together

[turbid marsh]

they boost each other but the problem is 2024 guide XD but methink this convo can go to al-general

[cobalt robin]

The guide was uploaded 2024 August or something

They weren't good even before that

[hushed sorrel]

i must believe you, since i have no know-how how to rate ships

[cobalt robin]

Tldr take yt guides with massive grain of salt

[narrow kiln]

I have something similar.
I don't understand how to understand whether gear is good or not.
I can understand about ships. So far it doesn't concern NP.

[wind oxide]

Them together is better than enterprise

[cobalt robin]

NUH UH LUCKY EEEEEE

[hushed sorrel]

even if i would have the know-how. way to many ships are available. so i am always very thankful for the help i get

[undone plover]

Did anyone eval the augment

[cobalt robin]

What

[undone plover]

Shoukaku augment
I was interested in her performance with the new augment

[wind oxide]

Permanent 35% increase vs rng 70%
i think the 35 is better by a margin

[cobalt robin]

I love enty so it's 100% for me

[wanton dawn]

what aa gun should be on the plane support fleet in w15 thanks

[boreal wagon]

smth smth augment module guide of 🍣

[narrow kiln]

Well, theoretically speaking.
2 airstrikes deal about the same amount of damage as a double airstrike.

[cobalt robin]

Lucky E

[narrow kiln]

In practice we have 3 things.
Stats, buffs and slot efficiency.

[undone plover]

Technically 100% enty is still the best bossing SR CV
And she is pretty close to UR level when buffed by ykii

[narrow kiln]

Are you talking about survivability?

[undone plover]

But 100% enty is not the average enty

[cobalt robin]

The superior sisters

[cobalt robin]

My worst entry is best enty

[keen owl]

is 1-1 the fastest area to gain affinity?

For speedrunning oath?

[tropic tusk]

No matter how many U put affinity only gains on win or if U put them at Ur home screen first slot

[narrow kiln]

I have reason to believe that cleaning 1-1 for this is absolutely pointless.

[warped acorn]

wow

[cobalt robin]

Oathing is an experience, not something to speedrun 🙄

[wind oxide]

That's....subjective

[tropic tusk]

Oh wait area

[hushed sorrel]

thats kinda difficult to read and not right. you gain affinity through battle regardless if its the main secretary or not

[eager mulch]

0 xp oath to be the ultimate flex

[keen owl]

Doesnt mvp gives more?

[cobalt robin]

Only the left slot gains afk affinity

[rapid summit]

It’s not possible to oath 2 ships right?

[tropic tusk]

Or

[eager mulch]

you can oath as many ships as you want

[cobalt robin]

You can oath as many as you want

[narrow kiln]

Have you ever read the enemy fleets in the Exercises?

[rapid summit]

Commander is such player

[rapid summit]

No

[eager mulch]

I have 2 helena oaths

[cobalt robin]

Assuming you have the rings aka 💳

[tropic tusk]

U mean like for example 2 uni oath?

[rapid summit]

I don’t get the reason for this aren’t they the same?

[cobalt robin]

I have 2 enty, who would've thought

[narrow kiln]

The only limitation in your oath is the cost of the ring.

[tropic tusk]

I got 4 uni oath

[cobalt robin]

3rd incoming

[eager mulch]

one is my lv 125 oath, the other is the lv1 0xp oath to flex

[rapid summit]

People tell me you get a free ring each time an anniversary event happens

[cobalt robin]

Yea

[rapid summit]

Uni?

[tropic tusk]

Unicorn

[cobalt robin]

Anniversary in August

[rapid summit]

I’m not talking about her talking about Bismarck and enterprise

[eager mulch]

the humble 0 xp oath https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/781035451288125451/1191282447002906674/IMG_2476.png?ex=6878a6bc&is=6877553c&hm=d879a9cac8478b6e7588b32d1466960f988744d60111c6396740e3322e442e22&

[tropic tusk]

I said for example 2 unicorn

[rapid summit]

Ima get the super rare Bismarck so I can have Bismarck zwei and and normal Bismarck oathed

[cobalt robin]

I'll do one like this for entry as well

[rapid summit]

Oh mb

[wind oxide]

Doesnt matter which chapter but if you put a ship into battle they will gain 0.0625 per battle and 0.125 for the mvp one
Putting a ship on secretary slot increases affinity gain by 1 per 300min

[rapid summit]

Is this necessary?

[tropic tusk]

U can oath how every many U want as long as U can obtain a 2nd one of them

[tropic tusk]

For me not enough for U no

[narrow kiln]

Also, in addition to the meaning of the oath, it gives the ship an additional 3-6% stat buff.

[undone plover]

0 oath is necessary for 99% of gameplay

[tropic tusk]

So in this case only meta / research ships U can't oath a 2nd time cause they only drop 1time

[rapid summit]

Yeah I know dw

[tropic tusk]

Everything other then that oath all U want

[rapid summit]

Does fdg have oath outfit yet?

[undone plover]

There is 2 ideas with oathing in general
Meta oathing
Non meta oathing
Meta oathing is not rly worth as f2p

[rapid summit]

Oops I didn’t mean to reply

[undone plover]

Yes she has had it for a while

[cobalt robin]

Just oath the ships you love that's it

[eager mulch]

helena oath skin >>>

[tropic tusk]

I mean all U have to do is click on the ship U want to oath and see if they got a skin or not they are not hidden

Oath skill will have a require oath lock on them

[wind oxide]

Just go to wiki and see for ships you dont have 🤓

[wind hazel]

oath skill nani da fak

[cobalt robin]

Yes new update

[tropic tusk]

If I'm not wrong wiki has a tab call oath skins or sth

[narrow kiln]

By the way, sounds like a way to get a skin for a wedding on Bismarck Zwei

[narrow kiln]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity
In addition to the separate one, there is one below.

[tropic tusk]

Ships with 2nd form for example zwei she will get her oath skins from her first form

[wind oxide]

Alternate version of ships share their skins

[tropic tusk]

This apply to all ships that has a 2 on them and not muse ship

[rapid summit]

Might not have seen it since I got to unlock her and check her skins

[normal cedar]

damn, this reminds me, would oathing helena actually cause her to go out of sync for debuff?

[narrow kiln]

Unfortunately there are no NP wedding skins.
😭 (A bit off topic, but I'm sad)

[undone plover]

With oath skins for alt ships the ship u oath can use it only
Just to be clear
So for example if u oath zwei original bizmarck cant use the oath skin
And vice versa

[rapid summit]

Aw dam

[undone plover]

So if u want the oath skin on zwei be sure to oath zwei

[tropic tusk]

Wait even if I oath biz

[worldly pewter]

her skills aren't tied with the rld stat

[normal cedar]

ohh my bad, i forgot, thanks

[undone plover]

If u oath bismarck zwei only she can use the skin
If u oath bismarck only she can use the skin

Tldr the ship who has the ring can use the skin

[cobalt robin]

Oath both ☝🏻

[narrow kiln]

Moreover, to own the Bismarck skin you need SR Bismarck oath

[tame jungle]

uhh no lmao

[undone plover]

No that is what I am trying to say

[wind oxide]

whoever you oath gets the skin

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins#Skin_Sharing

[narrow kiln]

Ahem...
Wedding skin - original Bismarck skin.

[wind oxide]