gameplay-help

[cobalt robin]

alright thanks

[undone zinc]

[ivory pawn]

Depot > Gear > Special > Sort to filter to only Super Rare > turn on Equipped.

[pseudo hearth]

Or you can click on the augment slot on a ship and see if you can craft gold augments for them

[sweet delta]

Do you have Akane shinjo and San Diego augments?

[mint fox]

Oh good lord

I have zero gold augments

Where can I get those? Ive just returned to the game

[soft raft]

weekly raids and event shops

[ivory pawn]

The non-collab ones you can just craft anytime.

[sweet delta]

Press the empty slot on the ship

[soft raft]

you're out of luck for the collab ones tho if you didnt get them while the collab was live

[pseudo hearth]

You can craft them. Sandy’s I’d say is the best one of your mob fleet ships, followed by Hood.

[soft raft]

in SSSS Gridman's case, it was during the rerun

[light trail]

totally speculative question but does it look like the new kms dr will be competitive over other BBs when paired with bis2?

[sweet delta]

/equip See the augment guide for which ones to prioritize

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[hollow gust]

You can just use Macku Biszwei 3rd BB

[light trail]

wouldnt there be other damage dealers competing for her spot?

or like a cv

[hollow gust]

Macky is a heavy armor specialist , she will be worst then others for other armor types . Theoretically you don't have to change , but min maxing is your choice

CVs will def not compete in a bb fleet

[mint fox]

Is this a type of augment?

[soft raft]

It's a Aux gear that's basically a unique aug for Yat Sen

[ripe bobcat]

IB finally got its own UR BB gun

[pseudo hearth]

Dude, don’t confuse him

[hollow gust]

It's a decent upgrade for yatsen but she technically doesn't need it

[hollow gust]

Why does it matter what faction the gun came from ?

[soft raft]

Ok and?

did you have a question?

[ripe bobcat]

Nah, but this BB gun have pretty good stats from my vision

[gaunt cedar]

any pr ships from new season worth getting prints for?

[ripe bobcat]

I'll try to grind it

[hollow gust]

You know that weapon comes from research?

[soft raft]

DR pog
iirc Kansas is slightly worse Owari, havent heard much about the russian, and I think the Itiallian DD is pretty eh

[ripe bobcat]

Yea 💀

Its gonna be longer than life to grind it

[mint fox]

Right now, where can I get these augments? Do I only get it from active events? Or does operation siren spit it out?

[ivory pawn]

You can craft them anytime.

[hollow gust]

Which takes at least 3 months per fund

[soft raft]

you get the materials to make unique augemts mainly from the weekly raid and event shops

[gaunt cedar]

isnt owari gonna rerun soon? not much point getting prints to dev30 kansas

[cobalt robin]

There's event unique augments and permanent ones, permanent you can craft anytime

[mint fox]

Oh wait

I can craft it...

[soft raft]

It's not too far off but you may as well get them for collection and tech

[pseudo hearth]

You can go to craft them at the exact place I took you to in that video.

[hollow gust]

You don't have to craft collab ones , just save them in depot

[verbal plinth]

Purple Dr face or reroll q/g?

[undone plover]

If on ship focus I think purple DR is decent
But if on gear u want to avoid it if u can

[hollow gust]

Purple faces are good

Rushing weapon is a waste of time this season, you only need 3

[verbal plinth]

Thanks

[undone plover]

U can always go back and get more la9/ply guns for ppl who dont have a lot

[mint fox]

So, for this mob fleet, which one of these units should get an augment?

[undone plover]

Hood and sandy ideally
Idk what akane does

[soft raft]

another flag BB that is now clashing with hood

[cobalt robin]

So should I continue pr7 focus or nah?

[sweet delta]

Akane is a better Hood if you got her augment already

[undone plover]

What is your pr7 status again?

[cobalt robin]

I have 12 prints so I'm not getting la9 anytime soon

[mint fox]

I just chucked her in there cause I couldnt think of other units to put in there🥹

[hollow gust]

Sara?

[undone plover]

So u are doing gear focus for pr7?

[cobalt robin]

Yes

[digital vault]

Are all the new PR ships UR?

[stark quiver]

Nah

[soft raft]

Only Leewu and Meck are
the rest are PR (aka research SSR)

[pseudo hearth]

Do you have Saratoga MLBd? Or do you have Independence?

[digital vault]

idk who to start off first

[undone plover]

Ah I see
Honestly I would go to pr8 focus
I think it might be slightly better than 7 overall

[soft raft]

just go for whoever you like
it's gonna take ages to D30 them anyways

[cobalt robin]

What's in pr8?

[mint fox]

Sorry, I have neither🥹

[undone plover]

When u get 2-3 guns go back for la9
By the time u get 2-3 guns u should be able to finish mecklenburg as well with the help of selectors
And possibly 1-2 PR ships

[cobalt robin]

I wanna get a 2nd washing machine and fire radar before switching tho

[mint fox]

I have neither, sorry

[soft raft]

AA radar is meme tier and all seasons have the washing machine

[ivory pawn]

PR8 drops them too.

[light trail]

research NP girl doesnt have slow synergy with nakhi right

[undone plover]

A very good BB that doesnt rly have restrictions like nakhimov
A decent/great CA
The meck gun should be more universal than la9
And the pr ships are probably on par with the pr7 ships

[cobalt robin]

I wasn't talking abt air radar, high standard fire control radar

[soft raft]

yeah I realized that fuckup 💀

[cobalt robin]

Lmao

[undone plover]

I think bb radar is also in every season

[wary skiff]

bb radar is in 8

[twilit crow]

how much better is meck gun over champy gun

[ivory pawn]

Doesn’t slow, therefore no synergy.

[soft raft]

PR3-8

[cobalt robin]

I'll switch then

[wary skiff]

i swapped rlly quick to check for u lmao

[hollow gust]

Meck gun is literally the la-9 for BBs

[cobalt robin]

Perfect also need more sexy staags

[undone plover]

I mean it is more universal because BB are more universal
And generally BB want champy like gun for both med and heavy
But La9 is mainly used for medium
Sure it is good vs heavy but u use TB vs heavy

[hollow gust]

Then you can claim la-9 is decent for light but meck gun is trash for light

[undone plover]

Also the way planes and guns work
1 gun is worth more than 1 plane

[stark quiver]

Oh right
Forgot to update wiki on gear

[hollow gust]

Not like it matters when it's more important to grab more copies of LA-9 anyway, you only need 3 Meck guns

[undone plover]

U can claim that
But no one uses la9 for light armor unless u are having fun

[cobalt robin]

Have lion gun for that so I should be fine

[viscid swift]

tbf, The Mecklenburg is a more incremental improvement over the Champagne gun comapred to La-9 vs Bf-109G

[undone plover]

Sure that is a good point cheeky
But still u will probably end up using champy like gun more than the la9

[hollow gust]

Also LA-9 is used frequently by CVs in heavy too

[viscid swift]

is it?

only on fighter only slots as far as I recall

[undone plover]

I mean I maintain 1 BB gun is more useful than 1 plane
Get your bb guns then go back for plane
The meta currently is more BB favored anyway

[hollow gust]

LA-9 is the best slot in for Amagi 1st

[undone plover]

Especially for newbies/low tech ppl

[viscid swift]

no, Tenrai is

[twilit crow]

how much better is the meck gun when compared to champy gun before +13

[hollow gust]

It isn't

[twilit crow]

or like at +10

[undone plover]

It is like 10-15% better at equiv enhance I believe
And slightly faster

[viscid swift]

it is, literally does more damage against heavy even against small hot box enemies

[hollow gust]

Better accuracy + more consistent is more favorable

[cobalt robin]

Guys stop fighting, I want better guns I'm pretty set for planes for now

[undone plover]

I can see an argument for pr7 focus for la9 if u already have champy at +13 and want to get better gear for your CVs
But that is only assuming u have fritz and soyuz and nakhimov
Otherwise what anti med cv fleet competes with triple BB

[viscid swift]

these are the AVI adjusted numbers

[undone plover]

It is fine to discuss ideas dw
We can all learn

[hollow gust]

.

[undone plover]

Tenrai can have higher highs tbf
Altho I am not a fan of +13 tenrai personally

[cobalt robin]

Flapjack, wyvern, 2 ryuusei, ju87, vit2 mode change and tenrai soon. My bb guns are lacking aside from lion gun

[undone plover]

Both season focus is fine
I think pr8 is better short term
U can do what u want tho
It shouldnt matter that much
Ideally in 8-10 months u want to have 2 la9 and 2 meck guns

[cobalt robin]

1 1/2 month and I have 12 prints 💀

[hollow gust]

LA-9 is more likely to do better then tenrai then it's to do worse . That's not even mentioning running a fighter means you can cram the stronger vit-2s

That is just bad and unlikely ; sounds like selection issue

[cobalt robin]

I've been spamming Q researches

[undone plover]

That is not ideal
Take as many Q research as u can
Take G if no Q
Dont take long research
Your longest research should be Q4h or G4h
And keep academy running 24/7

[cobalt robin]

Yea that's what I've been doing, only q and g when no q

I've gotten one gold 30m Q so far

[hollow gust]

Purple grants are solid takes , I find the 2:30 grants are just shit

[undone plover]

Just keep at it
If u dont have downtime and pick good research u will have 1 UR gear in 60-70 days

[cobalt robin]

My q has never been empty except today's maintenance

[viscid swift]

could just be some bad luck, it happens

just gotta keep at it

[undone plover]

I think u have probably picked a bad research here and there
Otherwise u got really unlucky or u didnt count the days correctly

[cobalt robin]

😔😔

[viscid swift]

yeah that could also be the case

[cobalt robin]

I asked in server what to pick and mori clearly told to me stay away from long and free ones 😔✌🏻

[hollow gust]

I got 30prints at the same time period and proceed to get 5 in 2 weeks

[cobalt robin]

Rng never really liked me

[undone plover]

Yeah but learning proper gear focus takes time
It is hard to not take the faces when u also want to max the ships

[hollow gust]

Shit luck exists but only 12 is some reverse dream chances

[cobalt robin]

My luck is pretty bad in most games 💀

[hollow gust]

Whelp you are the other side of the bell curve , some assholes got 50 in a month

[cobalt robin]

Brother how

[undone plover]

We will see over time
Luck shouldn’t rly matter that much over a year of research
Like the expected gear rate is 0.8 per day I believe and I had 0.75 for last year
And I probably had a bit of downtime and picking wrong research at times

[cobalt robin]

Hacks

[hollow gust]

.8 sounds high

[cobalt robin]

Make the sample size so big it takes luck out of the equation

[hollow gust]

That's almost 6 planes in a year

[undone plover]

I think sushi said it is probably even higher with proper gear focus
But I don’t remember his exact number
Like 0.8 is average with a few mistakes here and there

Proper gear focus also uses cubes to reroll off bad rng which I did not do

[cobalt robin]

If your bloodline is cursed with shit rng it might be lower lol

[cobalt robin]

I only took G when there wasn't any Q since I'm low on cubes

[undone plover]

Yeah just do that
Using cubes is hardcore grinder territory
Just aim for 0.7-0.75

That is 5+ gear per year

[hollow gust]

[cobalt robin]

What would I take here?

Purple g?

[undone plover]

I would take G4

[hollow gust]

That's still a weapon every 2 and a half months; you would never expect that for 80%% of the player base

[undone plover]

Oh wait
U are on 8
Then take 1.5h

I was confused cuz u just changed focus

[cobalt robin]

I switched but these aren't refreshed

[undone plover]

Sure but that doesnt change the fact that that is what proper focus gets u
Ofc if u miss a research or two
Or just afk every now and then
Or take faces cuz u want to finish neko a bit faster
All of that can make u have a worse rate

[cobalt robin]

Not sure if that matters

[undone plover]

Take the 1.5h it is ok

[cobalt robin]

Alright

[undone plover]

If the options would be 8 I would take the 4h G over 1.5h g

[hollow gust]

D366 is such a bait

[undone plover]

U can take the golden leeud one if u want but I think 5h research when u are on gear focus is a bit meh
I am actually not sure what someone like sushi would do here

Safest is the shortest and hope for good Qs

[cobalt robin]

I'm praying for gold Qs

[undone plover]

And save your refresh for when u get the all cube or all basic queues

[cobalt robin]

Alright

My queue is only blue qs and one g rn

[undone plover]

Then take longest Q

Some ppl I think take 1h over 2h Q
I prefer 2h Q cuz I dont trust my luck to get more 1h Q

[cobalt robin]

Already full

[dire kestrel]

I can get 2 SR CV from the medal shop. who should I get? I don't have any yet

[cobalt rapids]

enterprise + tech

[dire kestrel]

Ok thanks

[dire kestrel]

Tech isn't there

[undone plover]

He meant take sth that u need the tech points for
Like if u need ijn tech take shoukaku for example

[cobalt rapids]

tech is any cv that could help you with faction tech pts for shipyards ships or their tech bonus at lv 120 later on
except enty the others are pretty mid so thats their sole purpose
and collection
so pick ur fav frome the cranes ( shoukaku / zuikaku ) or ryuhou

[undone plover]

Actually neko with shou augment how does she stack up vs enty

[cobalt rapids]

ah right

she got an aug

[cobalt robin]

My wife always wins

[undone plover]

It looks pretty decent too

[cobalt rapids]

yea it removes her pair requirements
should be decent
so pick shoukaku but prob dont invest in her for now

[dire kestrel]

Ok thanks for all the help

[undone plover]

Also 20% acc
Also 30 avi and 15 rld
Also 10% eff to planes iirc

[cobalt robin]

But LUCKY E

[viscid swift]

and some people think this is a shit augment

[cobalt rapids]

well scepter also gives 30 avi so u cannot count that
the others yes ( only db and trp eff )

[undone plover]

Tbf it is only like 10 avi more than normal aug not 30
I forgot base aug also gives avi

[timid wasp]

Hello, I'm a very clueless player... So umm... How do I level up my ships? I'm not getting the exp book stuff, So do I clear levels using the new ships?

[cobalt rapids]

yes, sortie is the main exp income

[undone plover]

Clear levels with proper fleet
Not just new = good ships

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[undone plover]

Check the samheart link for a guide to newbies

[timid wasp]

Thank you :3

[worldly pewter]

i have one of the worst luck when it comes to pr researches around 0.58-0.6
most likely u either aren't efficient with gear focus on u are counting wrong

[worldly pewter]

i would take g1.5 because some reasons u can see on top

[carmine heath]

wait vit 2 is better than ryusei?

[worldly pewter]

not by much

[undone plover]

better total dmg but also slower

the plane itself is also slower when flying so sometimes it can be a bit late in reaching the enemy if the stop is not timed well

[cobalt rapids]

no

[cobalt robin]

I can't recall taking anything beside Qs and the occasional G since Mori's scolding

[turbid marsh]

yeah i only take qs and occaisional G and H.QH0.5 is must take ofc

[cobalt robin]

Also this rng is pretty retarted I had enough prints for 2 air radars before my first fire radar 💀💀

I'll have a 3rd soon

[undone plover]

are u sure u havent crafted a radar already that is why

[fierce lantern]

Can i get a TLDR for implacables skills

[carmine heath]

actually is having a 3 cv opsi mob fleet ideal given i dont have sushi
(uni aquila indy)

[undone plover]

yeah 3 CV in opsi is fine for mob

[calm wedge]

Independence my beloved

[cobalt robin]

I only crafted one air radar, rest of the prints are collecting dust

[undone plover]

she slows enemy then freezes them when sending airstrike
she also reduces enemy evasion a bit
she also does a thing with healing and stacks (not sure about that one )
also using DB in her second slot gives her rld so be careful it might hurt your sync

[fierce lantern]

thank u

[worldly pewter]

they will collect dust until they won't

[undone plover]

tldr to use implacable u can use her with any 2 CV for a triple CV bossing fleet
sync her so that she fires second in order
and make sure they all are as close to each other as possible
ideally something around 0.2 seconds between them

[cobalt robin]

I'll gladly trade my air radar prints for washing machine or fire radar

[hybrid pelican]

So is Mack better than Lion? Has Lion´s reing ended just one month after her release?

[cobalt robin]

Aren't ryuusei, ju87 and vit2 all pretty equal?

Depends on the fleet and timings which to use

At least that's what I was told

[cobalt rapids]

all gold conv tb are timing sidegrades yes
vit 2 however has a slow time to target compared to the others so its more awkward to sync

[cobalt robin]

vit2 was free from researches anyway so can't complain much

[dreamy blade]

That's why junkers/ju87 are recommended as 1 of your first gear lab crafts

[cobalt robin]

yea I have 2 ryuuseis and 1 ju87, gonna get a 2nd too

[worldly pewter]

vit 2 wants a fast CV

[dreamy blade]

Yeah having 2 of each different conv tb is good

Saiuns are pretty good when you're lacking cv rld tech

[cobalt robin]

uni boss fleet incoming

[soft raft]

No
the devs are not that stupid when it comes to new releases

Meck seems to be a heavy armor specialist so she's not as flexible

[cobalt robin]

The lioness keeps her throne

[onyx chasm]

What are these even for?

[soft raft]

Dorm furniture

[worldly pewter]

uni fleet is the best bossing fleet in 15-4 but don't use vit2 plz

[brisk dragon]

is the wiki down?

[dire kestrel]

Should I switch Prinz Eugen or Duca degli Abruzzi for Giuseppe Garibal?

[worldly pewter]

it was working just fine couple minutes ago

[cobalt robin]

using vit2 on her sounds even more tempting now

[boreal wagon]

its having a routine maintenance

[worldly pewter]

tempting to make all of ur ships sink in a blink of an eye i guess

[cobalt robin]

Bro these names I can't

[dire kestrel]

?

[silk hedge]

https://youtu.be/2OG8qRasMc4

[cobalt robin]

Nah just look funny

[soft raft]

oh boy AL YT
take that with a huuuuuuuge amount of salt, especially on day 1 of it being out

[silk hedge]

yeah i know - kansas got a change just hours ago (3 mgm to 4mgm)

[worldly pewter]

this doesn't tell much
a better picture would be
what is ur fleet and what are u trying to do

[viscid swift]

bro has 20 subs and the video has 10 views lamo

[dire kestrel]

Just got to 8-1 and lvl 54. Here's my fleet

[viscid swift]

why isn't everyone max limit broken

[dire kestrel]

Not enough gold

[viscid swift]

you'll want to change that asap

[worldly pewter]

the fleet looks fine but i don't know if duca is anything more than the juicy +2 cl fp at lvl 120

[dire kestrel]

How would I go about gold farming at my point in the game?

[dire kestrel]

Ok thanks

[muted crescent]

at that lvl? you don't tbh

[viscid swift]

farm SP5 of Crecendo Polaris when you have WA tickets, otherwise the highest stage of the main campaign you hace access to

[silk hedge]

pvp, medal shop has some gold bulins, if you have the resources, to upgrade your ships

[muted crescent]

wait that gives a ton of gold?

[viscid swift]

not necessarily but it's one of the few stages they can do with an oil cap

[muted crescent]

ok thx I'll use that for myself

[worldly pewter]

an alternate route is to spam opsi until u get enough commander level for w9

[muted crescent]

I legit need 19k to cog awaken 5 different ships of mine 😭

and 30k for Monarch

[dire kestrel]

Passionate Polaris? I don't see Crecendo

[viscid swift]

yes I get the names mixed up somtimes

[dire kestrel]

Ok thanks for everyone helping

[worldly pewter]

u are talking about pr ships so u should be already cruising in the oil capped campaign stages try to aim for 12-4 and dwell there for couple days

[muted crescent]

I'm level 62, I don't even have access to world 9 😭

[calm wedge]

[muted crescent]

also btw what does it mean for a flagship cost cap of 42?
I'm on 8-2 hard if anyone's wondering

[worldly pewter]

don't add unnecessary costs to ur early progression then

[muted crescent]

yeah, I think I shouldn't have retrofitted Sandy so early but eh

[cobalt robin]

ahem..

[stark quiver]

Well it’s not the worst thing you can do

[muted crescent]

what

retrofitting Sandy's like 50k 💀

I've. still got 5k leftto go

[cobalt robin]

I might've mentioned something abt it being too early recently

[muted crescent]

thing is I already did it by then

[cobalt robin]

Yea ik

[worldly pewter]

yeah retrofit sandy isn't bad in itself but doing it as early is the bad part

but in this game as long as u keep playing u can compensate the expenses it will just take a little bit longer

[paper walrus]

approximately when will the eldridge item rerun be

[viscid swift]

next month

[paper walrus]

oh really wow

[worldly pewter]

the rerun happens on the same month of its release ?

[paper walrus]

nice timing for once

[worldly pewter]

i heard it was a little bit after for the previous ones

[orchid copper]

i think most probably after or before EN server anniversary

[worldly pewter]

do u mean just after or before ?

[muted crescent]

what do I even need for it?

[viscid swift]

wow, tiptoed right around when it should rerun

[muted crescent]

it is just point farm or smth else?

[viscid swift]

among other factors I refer you to Yuudachi's retrofit item

released during the JP Anni event, reran with the JP Anni event next year

[orchid copper]

depends on the schedule of other events and reruns around the EN server anniversary event

[worldly pewter]

what "it" ?

[viscid swift]

what

[muted crescent]

eldridge retrofit item

[worldly pewter]

complete noob friendly tasks

[orchid copper]

we should also receive a new retrofit this year for EN anniversary aswell but who knows

[viscid swift]

I would quite a bit of money that there will be considering they've released a new retro for the EN Anni for the past 5 years at least

[cobalt robin]

in what shop is Eldridge

[viscid swift]

merit shop

[paper walrus]

was it always a big one like the eldridge one?

[viscid swift]

no, Eldridge was our first UR retro since 2021

[paper walrus]

😭

[muted crescent]

oh right how much oil are we expecting to get this yr

[worldly pewter]

when did sandy retro happen ?

[turbid marsh]

please ur retro everyyear thank you

[viscid swift]

what

[muted crescent]

I wanna know how much I'd have in oil reserves

[stark quiver]

Number of maints /collab times 3000 to 2500

[viscid swift]

don't expect more than 4 digits lets put it like that

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sparkling_Battle_Star

[worldly pewter]

don't expect to use the reserves either

[agile slate]

do the HE rockets in AL actually do HE damage?

[muted crescent]

ye ik but I do want know if I'd be ready to start grinding the living shit out of 12-4 when I get there so that I can farm URs

[stark quiver]

Avi damage

[stark quiver]

Passive income oil is probably enough
Don’t need to pull mail oil for now

[silk hedge]

with 2 maints per mounth ~6000 oils x12 monts
thats about 72.000 oils - very rough calc btw xD

[stark quiver]

Something like that yea

[agile slate]

i see thanks, hoped gouden leeuw would buff it too

[worldly pewter]

the new ship looked like a new aa carry

[cobalt robin]

Eh it's pretty easy to burn through it all

[viscid swift]

Gouden Leeuw is an AA carry

[turbid marsh]

think its just another guam but better damage

but idk how tanky gouden leeuw is though

[stark quiver]

This is why when there’s an event with good farmable map gear, you will have no oil

#trophy-room message

[cobalt robin]

I have oil in mail but I just wanted to clarify passive oil income and commissions isn't enough, at least for me

[viscid swift]

there's ways to help mitigate that

[worldly pewter]

since they are both aa carries the only advantage has is the aviation damage reduction in plane hell stages

[cobalt robin]

low costing and oil caps?

[barren kettle]

is it at w9 that oil caps starts?

[muted crescent]

yes

[viscid swift]

no I meant only farming when your ships are 120 morale or higher for +20% XP

[stark quiver]

No
Only farm at 150 morale

[cobalt robin]

😔

[muted crescent]

well...

if he's F2P that's free oil for him ig 💀

[turbid marsh]

well throw orranges and smoll heals, looks to me gouden leeuw is an upgrade of dezeven

[cobalt robin]

Free oil where? 🦅🦅

[undone plover]

they just mean if u farm with more efficiency it would be similar to having more oil

[muted crescent]

that and uhh commission farming coins

[worldly pewter]

it looks to me like a rather safe guam upgrade

[worldly pewter]

never take these unless it has cog

coin comms are D tier

[eager mulch]

free oil just pay money!

[muted crescent]

well that's the only place that is decent enough for me to farm coins 😭

[worldly pewter]

if that is the best place to get coins from then u are most likely doing something wrong

[muted crescent]

in hindsight, 4500 gold for 1200 coins is kinda shit

[slow fox]

For Gouden Leeuw's second skill, when do the second and third bombing raids activate?

[turbid marsh]

4500 VS 1200 is indeed not a very good deal i guess?

[muted crescent]

well what else can I do that nets me easy gold besides daily raids?

[worldly pewter]

this doesn't make any sense

[muted crescent]

mb, spending 1200 oil for 4500 coins

[worldly pewter]

that is only worth for people who don't have time to play at all

like 24h afk time

[dark hazel]

farm 12-1/4 or the highest stage you can for gold

[viscid swift]

gonna have to ask lars or someone

[muted crescent]

8-4 is even worse oil wise

[dark hazel]

you also get xp, which eventually allows you to farm higher stages when your ships are stronger

[slow fox]

-# mutsukinothavinit

[muted crescent]

...

[worldly pewter]

he is in w8 so any oil expenses will delay w9

[muted crescent]

did I just drop some 30000 oil into the abyss 😭

[dark hazel]

did you spend 30k oil on commissions to farm coins?

[muted crescent]

yes. yes I did.

[soft raft]

holy hell

[dark hazel]

that's pretty bad yeah, the only time to use oil for commissions is when you won't be on to play and want the xp

[viscid swift]

in 12-4 I can get that amount of coins for half that oil

[muted crescent]

no wonder I have so many lvl 70 0 lbs 😭

[dark hazel]

why are you farming coins when you're in w8 anyways

[worldly pewter]

the biggest issue is that u are delaying further worlds because u don't get commander xp

[dark hazel]

are you at least trying to improve your fleet to progress story

[muted crescent]

how do you think I got San Diego retrofitted and Nep Fate Sim 4 😭

[viscid swift]

literally why

[worldly pewter]

u can compensate by nolifing opsi though

[viscid swift]

you can't afford that in wolrd 8

also doing those commissions doesn't get you commander XP

[muted crescent]

well Neptune I did with catchup and 600 coins/day

[viscid swift]

rip all of those prototype cores

[muted crescent]

I used 150 or smth

rest are still sitting around

[worldly pewter]

if u have been doing researches while still in w8 then u really did delay ur progression so much

[muted crescent]

I mean I just did basic researches 90% of the time

[dark hazel]

have you tried doing w9 yet? if you're farming 8-4 you have it unlocked right

[worldly pewter]

i mean shipyard

[muted crescent]

I'm lvl 62, so no

[magic locust]

Ngl didn't expect to be that fast

[worldly pewter]

yeah no wonder ur commander level is very low but as i said above u can level it up in opsi

[dark hazel]

^ that and when you need to use oil, farm 8-4. commissions is a waste for what you need

[muted crescent]

it's been a month since I started 😭
pls gimme a break already 😭

[viscid swift]

and people don't believe us when we say grinding CDC is easy

[worldly pewter]

any questions ?

[undone plover]

why is no one recommending war archive

[worldly pewter]

cheeky already did

[undone plover]

oh i see my bad

[muted crescent]

someone recommended Passionate Polaris SP5

[undone plover]

yes my bad

[muted crescent]

and Divergent Chessboard for my IB tech for FdG later on

[dark hazel]

have you read the newbie guide

[muted crescent]

a bit, but not really all that much

[dark hazel]

you really should

[worldly pewter]

but delaying ur progression in a game like AL doesn't have any impact in the gameplay since no real challenges

[soft raft]

Bruh Neptune Fate Sim 4

[dark hazel]

you just waste time

[magic locust]

This is my fleet farm, 13-4 I swap simultaneously

[stark quiver]

what a waste of xp

[worldly pewter]

yeah usually u don't want to farm with maxed ships

[magic locust]

Needed aa + I'm leveling chesire & jeane so it's a winwin

[muted crescent]

I mean this says everything about my shipyard 😭

[magic locust]

You still get exp that's all that matters

Get flagship+MVP will finish the combat data collection

[slow fox]

Updated eHP

[muted crescent]

no thanks, I don't wanna use Nelson 😭

[viscid swift]

or just do 12-4 instead and avoid the need to use maxed ships entirely

[worldly pewter]

yeah if u don't care about exp but it is suboptimal unless u have all ur main at lvl 120

[muted crescent]

bro I'm alr struggling on 8-4 hard, is 12-4 just hard on the vanguard or smth?

[viscid swift]

you do realize that it'll be over 2 days until CDC2 unlocks right?

literally 0 reason to go this hard on day 1

[worldly pewter]

not only that the dev levels

[viscid swift]

I get that as a speed runner for unlocking ships but

there is such thing as tempered agression when it comes to these things

[muted crescent]

oh yeah I also dropped 20k on Nep and Z23's augments

[viscid swift]

also no off topic gifs in #gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

well Z23's augment was a misuse of coins

[worldly pewter]

so u have been doing everything humanly possible to delay ur progression

but as long as u are here now u know what to do at least

[slow fox]

-# What about doing augments for collection

[viscid swift]

that's kinda impossible because they don't give you enough mats to craft all the unique augments

[muted crescent]

they're useless for collection 😭

[worldly pewter]

i don't think someone would care about collection at w8

[slow fox]

-# mutsuki

[viscid swift]

meow

[stark quiver]

woof

[muted crescent]

got her like once, scrapped her as soon as I saw her

[calm wedge]

My eu main ships are already max , do the ones at 120 still get exp if they have enough for 125

[viscid swift]

yes

[muted crescent]

you get all that starting from lvl 100

[magic locust]

dont forget its 'suboptimal'

[calm wedge]

All what 😵‍💫, I need exp for kansas but the main ships are all maxed

[magic locust]

just like everyone saying that to me

[muted crescent]

you can store 3 mil XP starting from lvl 100

[calm wedge]

Okay

[muted crescent]

there's suboptimal then there's what I managed to do

[stark quiver]

you have all eagle union main fleets maxed?

[muted crescent]

if I didn't know any better, 10/10 I would do that again 😭

[worldly pewter]

rainbows and meta are an exception

[calm wedge]

Ye

[muted crescent]

in what way?

[magic locust]

I just want to get the shit done, that's the only KMS ships I have. CDC is a pain especially for Vanguards

[muted crescent]

they still store XP no?

[viscid swift]

you have all EU main fleet ships in the game at level 120?

[calm wedge]

Yeah except blues or useless ones I scrapped for space

[stark quiver]

sigma tech grinder

[worldly pewter]

yeah as in they can go to 125 while still 3☆ but i guess i didn't understand the topic there

[viscid swift]

you do know a lot of the blue ones give good tech right?

[sweet delta]

I'm just getting exp on 120s for my eventual purple ship 15-4 lethal auto clear

[muted crescent]

ah fair

[viscid swift]

Pennsylvania, California, Tennessee, Langley, Ranger, Nevada, Oklahoma

all of these ships guve good tech at 120, the BBs are all reload tech

[calm wedge]

I maxed the cvs that I know of

[dreamy blade]

Wasp and casablanca erasure

[muted crescent]

I mean what Eagle Union ships do u have?

[calm wedge]

Most of them

[muted crescent]

I can't imagine that 950 is that hard to get for eagle union

[viscid swift]

not tech points

[muted crescent]

oh his ships are not that good
I misread

[viscid swift]

the stat bonuses you get from leveling ships to 120

[calm wedge]

👴

[muted crescent]

they still net you XP even if they're at 125 I think

[muted crescent]

so... go ham

[calm wedge]

That would be great

[worldly pewter]

just use whatever u have

[muted crescent]

HOLY FUCKING HELL

[calm wedge]

Damn I only got like 250 slots

[stark quiver]

what is this progression
do you only like EU ships

[viscid swift]

yeah I reccomend getting more

[calm wedge]

Yup

[viscid swift]

you want at least 300-400

[worldly pewter]

500 and still suffering here 1.7 years

[calm wedge]

I'm trying but I always use my gems on double rings

[sweet delta]

I do that too

But 💳 fixes it up

[worldly pewter]

the magic card

[calm wedge]

Im poor

[muted crescent]

maybe the only thing I've done right is buy 1 dorm slot and the rest gone to dock with my F2P gems

[worldly pewter]

bricked dock then

[viscid swift]

then halt spending on ring packs for a bit then

[calm wedge]

[worldly pewter]

with 4k eu tech 250 slots is a bricked dock status that can't be fixed unless whaling

[calm wedge]

I just level them and scrap if axis 😈

[calm wedge]

Wdym bricked, I can do every content afaik

[muted crescent]

can we talk about how you barely have enough IB tech to start on FdG 😭

[viscid swift]

well I wouldn't particularly want to do W15 with only eagle union

[calm wedge]

Lmao I dont like ib

[stark quiver]

not everyone is a giga content maxer guys, remember that

[worldly pewter]

the game is already very easy

[calm wedge]

I just dont like using axis tbh

[sinful socket]

should I place my least tanky vanguard in the middle or on the right?

[calm wedge]

Middle

[viscid swift]

yes

[bleak nymph]

I guess we won't know for 2 weeks or so how good the new pr8 BBs are? Or do we approximate already? (trying to choose which one to start)

[worldly pewter]

if suchi did w15 without aa guns i think w15 nowdays is a joke or even more joker than before

[muted crescent]

that's doable?

[stark quiver]

can you do w15 w/o aa guns
suchi is maxed on basically everything, it doesnt make w15 a joke

[calm wedge]

🤯

[viscid swift]

it's not just axis, by limiting yourself to largely just one faction you lock yourself out of a bunch of good ships from everywhere else

no one faction has everything

[calm wedge]

I use hms and np

[remote yarrow]

With a really specific setup, tech,oaths and whatever suchi has on his account, I don't think is a good example for 99% of ppl

[sinful socket]

I use everything tbf

[viscid swift]

also if I'm honest, the whole Allies good Axis bad WW2 thing is honestley in rather bad taste

[worldly pewter]

yeah i mean still doing a challenge like that tells u how w15 nowadays is nothing to benchmark something at
we need w16 asap

[sinful socket]

in game u mean?

[stark quiver]

i used to be scared because i was fighting hornet in 1-1
thought i was axis side

[south sequoia]

It doesn't matter which one you start since it'll take a month - 3 months to complete the entire season

[muted crescent]

when are we seeing ppl clear world 15 with commons only 🤓

[south sequoia]

If you have an abundance of cube you're looking to take up to a month - a month and a half for completing the pr ships

[bleak nymph]

I never do collect all of them, too casual for that so eh

[undone plover]

clearly u skipped reading the name of the mission

[south sequoia]

Well

Rainbows good
For the golds just pick and choose who you like most

[sinful socket]

Rainbows good yes

[south sequoia]

They're all good, they just aint special

[worldly pewter]

common only might be not doable because they will explode in no time

[sinful socket]

Gouden Leeuw is tanky and has good AA

[bleak nymph]

Question was mostly if they were in biszw/lion bracket

[south sequoia]

Mecklenburg yes

Leeuw I have no idea

[viscid swift]

Kansas definitely isn't

[sinful socket]

Leeuw isn't a BB

[bleak nymph]

One more IB BB to my dock it is then

[sinful socket]

but she probably is Brest/Agir tier though

[viscid swift]

Golde Leeuw, I want to here from some others what they think her damage output it gonna be like

[south sequoia]

Wow another aa ca I'm so excited for a content that will totally cater to her that I havent brought down to safe yet

[viscid swift]

she's only 118% of Portland's eHP

[muted crescent]

yo slow down, Portland's that tanky???

[south sequoia]

Yes

[sinful socket]

she won't be as tanky, but probably has more use

[south sequoia]

She is the bar

[worldly pewter]

this doesn't seem right ngl

[sinful socket]

more support

[viscid swift]

we just use Portland as the baseline because she's the best easily accesible tank

[sweet delta]

I think she will be around Vittorio Cuniberti level against medium

[viscid swift]

which is better than Plymouth for those not in the no

[worldly pewter]

heavy armor ?

[viscid swift]

do you think we bother with 283s on her or?

[sweet delta]

I was considering her with Hindenburg gun

Because the 283 is HE and the other 283 is purple

[viscid swift]

I thought as much

[muted crescent]

holy shit tier 7 Kawakaze META got heft 😭

[viscid swift]

what

[sinful socket]

chat I need easily accessible IB vanguard to go with Roon and Z52

[muted crescent]

barely cleared that in 2 mins 😭

[sinful socket]

(in mob fleet to grind XP)

[viscid swift]

for what

[undone plover]

z23 or any z bote
they have good tech

[worldly pewter]

z23 most likely

[muted crescent]

go Z23

[viscid swift]

just using anything honestley, all the Purple and Gold DDs give FP tech

[slow fox]

I have her down as medium

[muted crescent]

that

[viscid swift]

those are basically all the ones with good tech

[worldly pewter]

in ur opinion what makes her have such low ehp compared to guam ? even though she has more stats except luck

[worldly pewter]

in w15 specifically

[sinful socket]

Still z23 ?

[worldly pewter]

what are u trying to do ?

[viscid swift]

Henrich, Deatshcland, Spee, Duisburg, etc

don't use Z52 and Roon they're maxed, just wasting XP

[sinful socket]

IB Vanguard to get some XP for Research

[worldly pewter]

never use maxed ships

[sinful socket]

ok ok

[worldly pewter]

@slow fox can u plz answer my question ?

[slow fox]

-# IM TYPING

[sinful socket]

won't I get my ass handed to me if I run 12-4 with level 70 vg ?

[undone plover]

honestly I agree with abdou
goudwen leeuw should have more ehp than guam in theory
or at least similar

[viscid swift]

to some degree yes which is why you should XP pack them to around level 90 or so

[eager mulch]

@slow fox I love you but what’s the

[viscid swift]

and stack the deck a bit in your favor so to speak

[worldly pewter]

guam also has the smol advantage from the skill that reduces aviation damage it is kinda a big chunk too

[sweet delta]

0 luck be like

[worldly pewter]

i think they tried to balance it out with the skill

[gaunt cedar]

this emden ship is from an event that reran at end of june last year, why isnt it added to perma pool?

[soft raft]

it will be soon

[boreal wagon]

because shell be permanent next maint according to jp

[soft raft]

after being skipped twice in a row lol

[gaunt cedar]

[midnight bluff]

Does the high efficiency plan give more exp for the new research ships or better to just run 6x

[eternal basalt]

June, july... it's been a year, it's exactly the same as always

[cloud forge]

any good worlds to farm for exp if you have no Unicorn backline for healing? (using 3 iron blood for exp farm)

[sinful socket]

high efficiency plan gives double XP, so it gives double XP for all research

[soft raft]

think of the 2x plans as doing 2 runs at once

[worldly pewter]

help will tank ur moral under 120 faster so u will be getting less exp

[worldly pewter]

not always

[viscid swift]

W12 as always

[hushed sorrel]

you would usually go for 12-4 regardless of ship. 12-1 if you need no coins and 13-4 if you are confident

[sweet delta]

What's Guam percent without VH?

[slow fox]

133

[eternal basalt]

13-1 for chips

[sinful socket]

chips ?

[viscid swift]

cognitive chips

[sinful socket]

oh yeah

limit break stuff

I wonder if De Zeven Provinzien can provide enough AA to run 13-1 to farm for Gouden Leeuw

[prime kayak]

is meta ship count as faction ship?

[sinful socket]

no

[boreal wagon]

they count as meta faction

[muted crescent]

separate

[viscid swift]

META ships are apart of the META faction

[prime kayak]

ok ok

[muted crescent]

META ships are in their own faction

[sinful socket]

META and µ are not part of their respective factions

[soft raft]

nah that shit was skipped twice
Emden event intial run 4/28/22
Vanguard event intial run 5/26/22
Roma event intial run 7/28/22

Emden WA: Next Maint
Vanguard WA: 4/17/25
Roma WA: 6/19/25

[sinful socket]

or at least don't grant faction points

[soft raft]

muse is
they just dont give any tech

[viscid swift]

METAs do give faction points, for the META faction

[sinful socket]

and the Little don't grant points either (-Chan, Lil)

[eternal basalt]

June 20th, not 28 April

[soft raft]

that's rerun
i'm talking about intial run

[eternal basalt]

1 year after rerun, don't know what to tell you

[soft raft]

rerun dates were also
Emden: June 20th 2024
Vanguard: July 18th 2024
Roma: October 17th 2024

[eternal basalt]

Muse ships are part of their respective nation, what?

[muted crescent]

they give nothing tho

[sinful socket]

i confused

[eternal basalt]

^

[sinful socket]

they give no techs, as well as the Little variations

[viscid swift]

then why doesn't the same apply for Roma and Vanguard

[eternal basalt]

But they count for XP

[sinful socket]

and they aren't found in the "collection", so in the trash they go

they do but why use them when you can use other ships that gives stats when you 120 them

[viscid swift]

some of them have niches, also eventually you do run out of ships to level with tech

[muted crescent]

I finally have an arbiter fight

[slow fox]

Nominally, considering no things like AA buff, and only considering their stats and skills, Guam has 103.93% the eHP of Gouden Leeuw.

Guam has more LCK, more healing, and more HP.
Gouden Leeuw has more EVA, and an evasion boost.

Setting both of their LCK to zero, Guam/Gouden = 0.96
Equalizing their HP and heal, = 0.87,

which means Gouden Leeuw is ~13% tankier than Guam due purely to EVA shenanigans.
Guam's LCK recovers 8% of that deficit. Guam's HP skills then recover the rest of that deficit then pushes her 4% over Gouden's eHP.

Then, Guam's AA/skills give her 20% more eHP than Gouden Leeuw.
Finally, Guam's AA defense skill gives her 25% more eHP than Gouden Leeuw.

This gives Guam an AAeHP of 150% of that of Gouden Leeuw's.

For my W15's weighting of damage, which is like 1/1/1 of FP/TRP/AVI, that translates to Guam having ~15% more eHP than Gouden Leeuw

[eternal basalt]

Guam also has -15% boob compared to Gouden Leeuw

[hushed sorrel]

is that a buff?

[boreal wagon]

#al-general is that way i think

[sweet delta]

How much heal does gouden have?

[slow fox]

6%

[sinful socket]

on herself or on lowest hp ally ?

[sweet delta]

Why not 12%

How much heal does Brest have?

[ashen venture]

I don't get it, so what is Kansas exactly doing?

[sinful socket]

brest is 6% on lowest hp ship iirc

[sinful socket]

jobbing

[eternal basalt]

4 mgm

[ashen venture]

Jobbing, so not even that good huh

[sinful socket]

nah idk

[ashen venture]

Mgm is what again?

[sweet delta]

Can gouden heal herself twice in the same airstrike?

[muted crescent]

main gun mount

[eternal basalt]

main gun mounts

[sinful socket]

does Guam have an airstrike?

[worldly pewter]

for the last sentence
is the calculation takes in count gun slot efficiency and reload stats ? seeing that the new ship overtakes guam's in this area

[fair lance]

Am I dumb? I don't see a heal in Guam's skills.

[robust nymph]

this better than any of these on enty?

[worldly pewter]

most likely it is this shield

[slow fox]

For AAeHP, gun slot efficiency and reload is not counted.

[sinful socket]

why don't I see heals in Guam's skill

[sweet delta]

The barrier is an HP boost in eHP model because we assume that the barrier gets destroyed . A heal is also an HP boost

[slow fox]

suchi NOTmisinformation!?!?

[sweet delta]

Help

[soft raft]

Eh it's whatever

[sinful socket]

so that's a 1% heal then? only on herself

[slow fox]

She heals on 2nd and 3rd airstrike
airstrike reload ~8.5s

[grizzled wave]

is amagi cv shinano and haru good backline boss for opsi?

[fallen jay]

So how long should I expect it to take to unlock Agir or Shimato?

[boreal wagon]

she heals herself and the lowest so theoretically she can heal herself twice

[sinful socket]

that would mean that she would have to be the lowest after her heal then?

[worldly pewter]

agir is very easy because ib ships are in abundance and dense
shimanto might be hard but we are close to the jp anni

[slow fox]

I would consider this an edge case. What do you think? I'm no vet

[boreal wagon]

ask suchi

[slow fox]

@sweet delta

[robust nymph]

in the sense they’re all similar?

[sweet delta]

I thought Brest was credited for 14% heal plus 5% toolkit. But now she's 6% heal plus 5% toolkit in ehp3

[fallen jay]

Can you tell me or help me make a flee of iron bloods to level up so o can unlock Agir in the lab? I’m struggling with a lack of the ships or not knowing where to be grinding them up to be stronger

[soft raft]

Hellcat >>>>> Seafang > anything that's not the messershit > the messershit

[sinful socket]

anyways let's not compare apples and pears here, who's tankier between Brest and Gouden Leeuw @slow fox (all skills maxed, DR30, optimal gear)

[worldly pewter]

u just need to follow the standard progression of
roon fdg and mlb the ib ships that u get that is it

[slow fox]

Brest

[soft raft]

3 Iron blood backliners +3 other ships for CDC1 then you switch to 3 other ships + 3 Iron Blood vanguards for CDC2

[sinful socket]

I'm abandoning Gouden (or running both)

[robust nymph]

what about the reppuu?

[undone plover]

I am getting 225 heal in simulation
do ships equip gear in sim?

[fallen jay]

What do those acronyms mean

[robust nymph]

combat data collection

[sinful socket]

is the skill maxed?

[undone plover]

I should think so
it is simulation

[soft raft]

that is in the "Anything that is not the Messershit" category

[undone plover]

so looks like it caps at 3%

[robust nymph]

oh damn

[slow fox]

I used to consider Brest lowest HP for one of her heals. Now she isn't.

[eager mulch]

how much oil is 3 runs of 12-4 no subs

[gaunt cedar]

951 oil

[sinful socket]

Brest is 8% first barrage and 6% second barrage on ally with lowest HP

oh no 8% on ship with lowest hp and 6% on herself

[slow fox]

-# Yep that's my impression

[worldly pewter]

reppuu doesn't have any applicable use case nowadays because of the hellcat and pancake

[sinful socket]

on first and second barrage respectively

[eternal basalt]

        "arg_list": {
          "maxHPRatio": 0.03
        },
        "casterAniEffect": "",
        "targetAniEffect": "",
        "target_choise": "TargetHelpLeastHPRatio",
        "type": "BattleSkillHeal"
      },
      {
        "arg_list": {
          "maxHPRatio": 0.03
        },
        "casterAniEffect": "",
        "targetAniEffect": "",
        "target_choise": "TargetSelf",
        "type": "BattleSkillHeal"
      },```
Seems like it, nothing barring the TargetHelpLeastHPRatio be herself

[sinful socket]

then given their skill sets, you could say brest is better for short fights while Guam shines in long fights, and Gouden is in the middle

[worldly pewter]

the real question now is will they beat the DD comp with sandy

[grizzled wave]

is amagi cv shinano and haru good backline boss for opsi?

[sweet delta]

Replacing haku with implacable would make it better

[grizzled wave]

should i mlb implac rn or save? I can buy 4 ur bulins

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1376990692450242684 these r all my important ships. I just mlb’d bis zwei, musashi and shinano and obtained shimanto which is the only difference

[sweet delta]

Implacable

[bleak nymph]

did we get new equipment too this patch or that will come later?

[soft raft]

yes

it's kinda whatever save for the UR BB Gun and Leewu's gun

[hoary relic]

should i use general series 6 dr bp for ply only or both series 6&7? Since i might not go for pr7

[soft raft]

only use the blanks on the highest season it goes to
that's the general rule of thumb in regards to those

[eternal moth]

Is the wiki correct, and Mecklenberg actually has 4 main guns?

Also, what's the AA damage of Gouden vs Sandy?

[hoary relic]

ye she has 4 turrets

[hollow sail]

it's unclear atm, datamines says one thing, riceist barrage datamine says another, very confusing

[eternal moth]

Jesus. I don't think anyone is going to be able to touch her damage unless her barrages are absolute dogshit

[hollow sail]

this is because her on fire barrage is so similar to her gun

[soft raft]

big if true if she ends up indeed having 4 MGM

[hollow sail]

she either has 3 MGM and 2 4 bullet barrages or 4 MGM and 1 bullet barrage, i'll assume the google doc datamine is the most correct so it should be the former

[eternal moth]

She's in-game, isn't she? Can't you just do a sim with her?

[hollow sail]

yes, but it's still confusing even with that

[hoary relic]

[hollow sail]

like i said her barrage looks almost identical to her gun

and they're both going off at the same time

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, G or D takes preference? Assuming both are the same time

Nope, sim is pretty clearly 4 MGM, unless her barrage is a double volley.

[hollow sail]

D better for ship bps

[hoary relic]

i did the sim and i only see 3 salvo

[sweet delta]

Her barrage is a double volley

[hoary relic]

🤔 not sure is that the 4th salvo is fired along with her barrage

maybe a skin would help us distinguish better

[eternal moth]

Or the ability to use an HE gun in sim

[sweet delta]

Her in-code buffs clearly say 3 MGM

@inland shoal how did Mecklenburg get 4 MGM

[hoary relic]

i thought the number of salvo depends on the number of turrets, or i may wrong

[sweet delta]

You're wrong

[eternal moth]

Well, now I need 3 IB for experience. Time to level the littles.

I wonder if level 98 Lil FDG and Zeppy can take on 12-4

[sweet delta]

For example algerie has 4 turrets but only 2 MGM in Azur lane

[hoary relic]

[sweet delta]

Or among BBs, fdg and ruppy have 4 main turrets

[viscid swift]

for an even more extreme example, Thuringen has 6 turrets IRL, in game she has 3

[sweet delta]

How many turrets did sao martinho have

[eternal moth]

6 MGM

[viscid swift]

she didn't have turrets being an age of sail ship

[sweet delta]

[hoary relic]

🤔 is kearsarge underrated?

[sweet delta]

Underrated by who what when where and how

[upper lava]

i dont find her underrated
i find her quite good comboing with 🦅 union carriers like yorktown 2
since its what a ~20 percent damage buff?

[hoary relic]

For light?

We mostly use yk2 for light right?

Nahk and soyuz for med?

[sweet delta]

Nakhi soyiz is competitive with yorkear on light too

And lion exists

[hoary relic]

And lion has better performance for light?

[turbid marsh]

lionsama~ bring out the bb era again

[worldly pewter]

the kear comp used to be the best against light
now there are varities

[hoary relic]

Is ply necessary for lion or we can replace her with someone else

iirc, her skill buffs hms BBs

[worldly pewter]

depends on what u want to do

[worldly pewter]

ply is a universal BB buffer

[hoary relic]

To sync with lion as i mentioned

[worldly pewter]

i don't see why and how u sync a vanguard like ply with a BB

the only one that i can find it more plausible but still cope is the agir slow

[hollow gust]

I'm sure they don't mean timing shots to each other , just ment Plymouth and Lion synergy

[hoary relic]

I read ply's skill again eh, sortieing with hms increase her eva eh but her barrage buff flagship's dmg

[molten zinc]

read again, it said HMS gear, not HMS ship

[hoary relic]

Oh ye it said gear, im may blinded

[wind hazel]

it says both actually

everyone is blind

[worldly pewter]

sync in this game has only 1 meaning afaik
not sure though
feel free to correct me

[sweet delta]

Not I

[wind hazel]

you are sushi

[sweet delta]

I dont think we were talking about meta sync points

[late flame]

username everyone not found

[hollow gust]

You can't expect newest players to know every terminology used

It's / not !

[worldly pewter]

bread most likely meant "not necessarily ship"

[wind hazel]

[hollow gust]

Its Or, just use a royal gear or royal ship

[sullen birch]

Should I start working on the new ships?

[hollow gust]

Are you done with your current season

[soft raft]

whats your research progress looking like?

[sullen birch]

I don't any,I finished a pr 5 or maybe 4 ship then I stopped

I'm grinding PR7 for equipment

[hollow gust]

Then finish the ships and weapon then swap if you wanted to

[gusty olive]

Cuniberti seems to be the type to want fast torp reload?

[sullen birch]

I already finished the ship

[weak dust]

whats a good meta ship to fight using the orange data
first meta ship syncro

[stark quiver]

Anyone with good tech

[sweet delta]

I heard jintsuu meta is good for pvp

[hoary relic]

dawg i got enough dupes for 2 mlb choukai

anyways does u552 work well with other iron blood sub?

[sweet delta]

She needs other iron blood subs

[hoary relic]

but for light only?

[wind hazel]

[sweet delta]

[hoary relic]

her wolf pack skill increase dmg against light armour enemies

by 10%

[wind hazel]

doesn't mean she's restricted to that hull only....

[hoary relic]

maybe i'll stick with u81, u101 and u96

[stark quiver]

its like saying i would only use aurora against dd and cl, which is infact correct

[wind hazel]

[stark quiver]

yea that works

[flint wyvern]

Who would be worth grabbing out of these first?

[hoary relic]

mg42?

[zenith heron]

Shinano all the way if not MLB

[flint wyvern]

She’s mlb

[hoary relic]

then mg42 for mobbing?

[zenith heron]

how about Vanguard?

[hoary relic]

or vanny in case u dont have alsus

[flint wyvern]

Mg42?

[hoary relic]

that's UvH

[wind hazel]

get Vanguard

[flint wyvern]

Ohh is she better than max fdr?

[flint wyvern]

She’s good for mobbing or bossing?

[hoary relic]

bossing

[zenith heron]

she is a BB Buffer, so yes

[hoary relic]

works well with lion

[wind hazel]

any UR can do both mob and boss

[flint wyvern]

I don’t have lion😭

[hoary relic]

u missed her banner?

[zenith heron]

not a problem if she still buffs your other BBs

[flint wyvern]

Yes

I was running musashi enterprise and yk2

[hoary relic]

big loss cuz she is the best bossing BB rn

[flint wyvern]

I have Bismarck Zwei

[zenith heron]

If you don't have a Vanguard or haven't MLB'd her yet, then its still Vanguard

[flint wyvern]

Currently stuck on w14

[flint wyvern]

Okay

[south python]

is Napoli useful in chapter 14 at all or nah?

[stark quiver]

yea shes good

[zenith heron]

Bcs Uvh is usable but a niche pick

[flint wyvern]

Vanguard is best bet

Have enough to mob her once leveled

Mlb*

[hoary relic]

is kron still good or she is out performed by other vanguard shipgirls?

[stark quiver]

shes good
but shes just a damage tank with nothing else

[zenith heron]

Outshunned due to other Tanks having better bulk, but her damage is good

[hoary relic]

[zenith heron]

like typical Napoli, Guam and Agir, maybe even Anchorage...

[iron blade]

For some reason, Hindenburg won't be leveled up using coins like the other PR ships. Why is this? Is it a bug? Or is it designed that way?

[viscid swift]

It's intentional

[stark quiver]

yeh coining didnt release yet for DR5 and up

[hoary relic]

we dont have coins up yet for DR5 iirc

[viscid swift]

Coining is a catchup mechanic only available to older seasons

[stark quiver]

woul pr5 be considered old

[hoary relic]

we currently have coins up for pr1-5 and dr1-4 iirc

[viscid swift]

Not old enough for the season to be retired yet

[iron blade]

Gotcha. I didn't know this. I assumed all PR ships were able to be leveled up using coins. Thanks for the help. Now I gotta grind for her BP

[stark quiver]

nah dont do pr6

[eager mulch]

why not

[hoary relic]

why? is pr6 bad?

[iron blade]

Why not? I thought Hindenburg was good?

[stark quiver]

shes like top dmage boat
but thats about it, meta these days prefer more buffing skills for backline and fleet

id reccommend doing pr8

[dark hazel]

Aren't both pr8 and pr7 just so much better

[iron blade]

I am working on the new PR, but I already have Hindenburg in my dock, plus I need to work on my vanguard

[hoary relic]

nahk is good for all armour type or just for med & light?

[stark quiver]

all

[stark quiver]

there are other botes thatre good

you can unlock PR4 ships and coin them while doing pr8 research

[iron blade]

Are there any Iron Blood vanguard ships you'd recommend?

[dark hazel]

dev30 takes so long that you'll unlock every ship in the season before getting enough bp, and your hind is at dev 4. that's like two days of research

[hoary relic]

agir if u havent researched her

[iron blade]

I do have her, and she's making good progress to 125

[hoary relic]

[stark quiver]

im speaking from experience, I hardly use hinden, because theres so many ships with dps not far from her, who also provide great buffs like z52, or their buffs outweigh hindens damage

i only use hinden in opsi mob

[iron blade]

I would get z52, but she's not out rn, and I missed her when she was here cause I wasn't playing at the time

[hoary relic]

how good is traf for bossing?

for all type of enemies?

[iron blade]

I did manage to get Bisz and UvH, so I'm good on my backline. I roughly got back on here when lion released

[thorny ermine]

how do u change yer ship in the guild lobby?

[hoary relic]

change ur secretary ship

[iron blade]

I believe that's by changing your secretary. I could be wrong tho

[thorny ermine]

helping a friend i thought so too but its not working

[hoary relic]

u need like 5min for the game to update the pfp

[thorny ermine]

ohh okok ty

[hoary relic]

or re login the game

[viscid swift]

Mecklenburg replacing UvH would be worth more in most cases than Hindenburg over say Helena or Trafalgar

[worldly pewter]

i think u meant
it isn't like saying

[viscid swift]

in fact I can count on one hand the amount of times I've used Hindenburg

also obligatory faction fleet bad

[iron blade]

I am working on Mecklenburg. She's gonna be awhile tho

[viscid swift]

well it'll take you about 4 months to get her enough BPs to dev 30 her

[iron blade]

I know, but I like Iron Blood, it's my favorite faction. So, I would like to run a full fleet of them

That's why I'm trying to find the best ships to run for IB. I don't know how to tell what ships are good and what ships are not except by their abilities.

[viscid swift]

always Iron Blood isn't it but anyway, for one you have to first answer the question of what content are you trying to tackle

you build fleets around content not ships

and this is where the issues with maining one faction come into play especially with Iron Blood

none of the factions have everything and IB in particular is lacking in a few pretty big areas, mainly lacking any sort of competent healer and generally lacking on AA

the exception being Z52 who is event limited, and a lot of their good ships are either event limited right now or locked behind PR

truth be told the perma line up for IB ships is not brilliant

[normal cedar]

is kansas a dps bb? her kit is kinda confusing

[stark quiver]

i meant what i said

[crisp geode]

Worth buying the remaining 3 slots of the dorm? I'm f2p and already got the docks to 250 slots

[stark quiver]

no

[iron blade]

At the moment, I still need to finish the main story. Currently at 11-1. Grinding through Opsi is going through somewhat smoothly, but I believe I'm on chapter 3-3 for that. I'm not focused on the metas rn, so I barely do them.
Tldr: I'd like to focus on Opsi.
Since it help with gathering materials for gear research, and allowing me to get better equipment for my ships

[viscid swift]

get more dock space

[crisp geode]

300?

[soft raft]

as much as possible

[stark quiver]

holy aura

[worldly pewter]

then what u have said isn't true because having a specific buff for an armor type isn't the same as a ship restricted to a certain condition to work

[stark quiver]

it was supposed to be a joke

[viscid swift]

well first you want to clear Chapter 12 first and foremost

it's the best farming spot in the game for coins and leveling up ships and is also very easy to farm

seccond, forget about trying to figure out the best Iron Blood fleets, that'll take you literally years to put together, you need to focus on what you can make work now

[soft raft]

there is no reccomended stopping point for dock space for F2Ps
Get 2nd floor of dorm and then it's all in on dock space after that

[sweet delta]

Yes she's a DPS BB without very good DPS

[crisp geode]

Ok, i got the second floor alr

The new PR8 iron blood ship is worth researching?

[iron blade]

Ok, what would be some key ships I should focus on? I have Lion, Trafalgar, Unicorn. Those I know are solid ships.

[viscid swift]

what else do you have to work with

[stark quiver]

shes very good

[iron blade]

I could send screenshots of what I have. Is it alright if I show you?

[viscid swift]

sure but do it in a thread

[iron blade]

On here or somewhere else?

[viscid swift]

in this channel

[stark quiver]

thread moment

[hollow gust]

[iron blade]

Sorry 😛

[cyan bloom]

what is the best way to get more rudders?

[vagrant steppe]

If i want to use the oath skin on Bismark Zwei do i have to oath both Bismark and Bismark zwei or just zwei?

[hollow gust]

Zwei is fine

[stark quiver]

do research normally

[soft raft]

doing researches
they drop from every season

[cyan bloom]

Then, should I avoid farming d3 stages from war archives and stick to research?

[soft raft]

yes

[cyan bloom]

alright, ty

[soft raft]

you shoudn't have gone to War Archives to farm for those in the first place tbh

[cyan bloom]

yea, good thing I asked before wasting my oil

[soft raft]

there's basically zero reason to touch War Archives outside of divergent chessboard for the IB tech points and if you want to collect all the event story cutscenes

[fickle hollow]

will La-09 be added to the shop after some time like the previous UR equipment?

[viscid swift]

Yes, probably this January/February

[worldly pewter]

there are other uses like jda or some ijn tech ships

[wet badge]

Hows meclenburg

[viscid swift]

Looks good

[sweet delta]

What are your assumptions for cuniberti

[slow fox]

12s in smokescreen

15% HPBoost

[sweet delta]

6 smokes totaling 21s in 87s

Up to 18% heals plus toolkit, maybe assume 15% plus toolkit

[wet badge]

Is she support or dps

[sweet delta]

DPS with very minor support

[sullen birch]

So,these are the new stuff

[slow fox]

I assume 20s trp reload?

Is it 18 nowadays

[sweet delta]

15

[sullen birch]

Did the wiki update for the new gear?

[slow fox]

mutsukiwhathefuck

[soft raft]

They're working on it

[sullen birch]

Ok

[sweet delta]

I mean Anchorage uses 16s (but she has invil)

[sullen birch]

By the way, I'm not working on any or ship

[sweet delta]

Cuniberti doesn't lose much damage by using fast torp. For some battle lengths she even gains damage

[slow fox]

So use fast torp for eHP gain of course

[sweet delta]

Yes give me ehp with these 2 assumptions

[soft raft]

did you have a question?

[sullen birch]

Should work on one or just wait, because right now, my ships are good for operation siren
I just need New gear

[soft raft]

we already answered that earlier
#gameplay-help message

[sweet delta]

Is 102% Dmitri assuming non main tank?

[slow fox]

Yes

[sullen birch]

Do you guys suggest one, wait
I will show my operation siren team

[soft raft]

Right now just go for whoever you like

It's barely even 1 day since PR8 dropped, so no one has them much less done any actual testing with them

[slow fox]

68 -> 75.77

[sweet delta]

Damn second worst pr ship (jk)

[dapper fog]

Been awhile so I need a reminder. When it says 'gain x amount of exp with y ships' does that mean in any context where said ships might gain experience or are there limitations? OpSi, Exercise, or campaign only?

[late flame]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[grizzled sundial]

Is Z52 thundering seal a one time -proc >

[vale spindle]

yes all gear pages are added except images I think

[green galleon]

Which map is suitable to farm EXP?

[stark quiver]

12-1

[green galleon]

So any recommendations for the fleet? I want EXP for Eagle Union.

[uneven cave]

any samvaluations i haven't been keeping up

[sweet delta]

DRs amazing, golds great

[stark quiver]

I mean good tech ships?
Or ships you’re gonna use

[green galleon]

Good tech ship

[sweet delta]

Like California

[sullen birch]

By the way
Gear lab has new stuff

@soft raft this is my operation siren fleet( note fleet 4 is just filler)