gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

the armor isn't also quite the same but the model of the hull itself from everything below the deck is basically the same as FDG

[left cedar]

basically any hull of KMS have TRP, dosnt matter if its a BB or a SS, it will be TRP there
exceptions till i know, for CVs and CVLs

[molten zinc]

wait until WG heard that and make German CVs can launch Shimakaze torp

[viscid swift]

they're already giving them manually controlled secondaries

don't give them ideas

[left cedar]

interesting ... i'm curious about her kit on AL ... let see how it will be

also, thnx for infos

[pseudo hearth]

Too bad, Hildebrand 2.0 with 4 Torp Mounts coming right up

[viscid swift]

we already have a French Hildebrand coming so

[onyx chasm]

I mean again I'm simply talking about getting mvp for FDG which isnt happening so I was just wondering if I wanted to stick her in place of peter for passive exp gain outside of dorm exp since i'll get mvp with zwei regardless

[viscid swift]

it W12, you can use just about anything and it'll work so if you need XP on FDG go for it

[onyx chasm]

I mean she's lvl 70 and not even MLB so yh...

[viscid swift]

I've dragged even level 1 ships through W12

[plain saffron]

is there event rn?

rerun?

[storm olive]

Still on zenker event

[plain saffron]

ends tomorrow?

[craggy sorrel]

i alr finish all the opsi story but why this port always red color?

[woven star]

Because

[wind hazel]

it will be always red

[woven star]

No store, no refill

[craggy sorrel]

[plain saffron]

the port colors here means the "faction"

blue azur lane and red crimson axis or something

[woven star]

Hm, so different fractions have different ports. Never noticed cos always been in blue guild

Interesting will we get guild fractions wars ever? Seems they think about it when made it

[storm olive]

Doesn't matter which guild you are in, blue ports are where you buy stuff regardless

[woven star]

Dam, ok

[plain saffron]

Guild matters for guild UI colors

[storm olive]

Guild also decides if you look at st Louis or Leipzig

[novel solstice]

The devs don't talk much about long term plans, but it seems highly unlikely at this point that they'd add a new feature to guilds after leaving them as is for so long. But who knows, maybe they'll hire a new designer next year who is excited to add more guild content.

[woven star]

I'm come here from WoR. And guild wars was usual thing there as they position as pvp game. But let it be

[desert tapir]

I thought the pr8 started today, is that incorrect?

[dreamy blade]

Tomorrow

[viscid swift]

about 22ish hours behind

[silk helm]

when will we konw if its worth cubing?

[split gazelle]

You can't gacha for PR/DR ships

[ivory pawn]

If you want it fast and have an insane excess of cubes, it can maybe be worth cubing.
If not, don’t cube.

[silk helm]

i will cube if the ships are good

[left cedar]

kinda 2k cubes are worth cube research

less than i wont do

[stark quiver]

dont you still need to pull for new events/reruns and dont have a lot of cubes

[silk helm]

shhhh

[viscid swift]

let me put it like this, in your first month of cubing your expected to sink 500 cubes

that's a net deficit of 300 cubes before you even account for pulling on events in a single month

like the JP Anni

[silk helm]

whats the high end of cubes you get per month

[stark quiver]

400 is kinda high with paypig methods

250ish for the more active grinder

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't put income at above 250 max as a F2P

[stark quiver]

simply put, dont cube unless youre caught up with events and have A LOT of excess cubes

[meager tiger]

just buy cube with gem

this post was sponsored by akashi

[fallen jay]

So I shouldn’t expect to get a ton of cubes anytime soon. Should I be pulling solely from the light build? Or do I do this event?

[viscid swift]

I would not pull on this event as a new player no

[fallen jay]

Oh…I have been not excessively but once a day…

[stark quiver]

yea thats not bad
but just stick to 1 light from now on

[viscid swift]

that's fine

[fallen jay]

Alright. So the guild shop doesn’t really have anything more I can buy then? Are there any ships I should buy for collection for the tech points so I can hopefully unlock others in PR? Like are there any Sakura and Iron Blood ships in the guild shop?

[stark quiver]

when you have enough guild coins, just buy out all the ships, its free tech anyways if youre in an active guild

[fallen jay]

Would it be abad idea to just bunch them all up into random fleets and throw them through campaign from chapter 2 or 3?

The new ships I pull I mean. To level them up

I’m trying to level up my commander rank to 80 to unlock dorms

[subtle cave]

this is my team for 14-3 but theyre dying when i try to destroy every enemy, any changes?

[soft raft]

For Sakura Empire: Shouhou, Yoizuku, Mogami, Nowaki, Hanazuki, Nagami, Ashigara, Shirayuki, Kasumi, Yuugure, Hatsuharu, Matsukaze, Wakaba, Urakaze, Isokaze, Michishio, Ariake, Arashio, and Nagatsuki

For Iron Blood: Graf Spee, U-557, Admiral Hipper (NOT her Muse version), U-556, U-73, U-110, and Z18

[soft raft]

Where specifically is it dying? Mob? Boss?

Boss looks like too many tanks cuz double CB + CA is quite slow

[stark quiver]

not enough dps maybe for boss

[subtle cave]

hmm my fleet 1 dies on like the 3rd to last mob and my boss fleet after killing the last 3 mobs dies to the boss

[soft raft]

why tf are you having your boss fleet engage mob fleets

[storm olive]

Yes that would be a bad idea, w2/3 has no oil cap. Just drag your main fleet through the highest stage you have unlocked

[subtle cave]

cuz i want to eliminate all the enemies

[soft raft]

bruh that's not worth the effort

[stark quiver]

are you running asw on mob?
well z52 being underleveled is also an issue

make a thread , post dock and someone will make new fleets

[soft raft]

also are you like faceplanting into 3 triangle BB nodes or something cuz that mob fleet should not be dying a horrible death if you choose your fights wisely

[subtle cave]

should i just level her up then?

[soft raft]

she's a whopping 15 lvls too low for W14 so yes
and that amount of lvl disadvantadge can really stack, especially for a main tnak

[stark quiver]

well yes
but your fleets could also use a rework especially in frontline

[subtle cave]

i try to get rid of the 3 triangles first while i still have ammo

ok ill post a thread

[soft raft]

Yeah no wonder why you're getting wrecked

[subtle cave]

i should post my ships arranging from lvl right?

[subtle cave]

should i not do 3's first?

[stark quiver]

rarity

[soft raft]

ideally you go for at highest 2 triangle nodes
doing too many 3 triangle nodes (especially carrier and battleship ones) can really do numbers on your fleet

especially if your main mob tank is pretty underleveled for the content

[subtle cave]

so do the 2's and then 3's?

[soft raft]

no
avoid 3s as much as possible

[subtle cave]

yeah but im trying to 3 star thats why, if i wasnt i wouldnt do 3's

[soft raft]

You can do that when you get the map to safe threat lvl

[subtle cave]

ohhh ur right i didnt think of that, i was just thinking do it in like a couple go's and move on lol

[soft raft]

yeah that aint gonna work for W14+
technically you can 3* on lethal but it requires hyperspecific comps and is often not worth the trouble for the average person

[subtle cave]

14-3 and onwards team help

[subtle cave]

thats true maybe ill just get to it safe first if no changes are really needed

[fallen jay]

Ok so I bought a whole bunch of new ships from the guild and decided to do a test run with as many of them as I could. I put them all in a fleet togehter that costs very little to deploy and the very first mission they finish gave me a copy of one of the elites I had just bought

Is that a coincidence or did buying her unlock the ability to get her in campaign missions?

[storm olive]

Coincidence

[soft raft]

sheer coincidence

[storm olive]

The ship you bought happens to be able to drop from the stage you ran

[fallen jay]

Very odd…bright side I can complete these levels with the randoms so they get the first few easy levels

What level should my whole fleet be for world ten?

[turbid marsh]

90 + high the better

[fallen jay]

Oof whole vanguard is 105+ but main fleet is under 80… yet somehow my vanguard is what keeps dying in W10

[turbid marsh]

lack of damage that prolongs the fight will also be a problem too

[storm olive]

What is your fleet

[fallen jay]

Two fleets one mob one boss. Hood unicorn Saratoga Juneau little Agir Otto. Mob.

Boss. Zwei enterprise BRS Portland Helena Z23

[storm olive]

Are any of your ships fully retrofitted, and is zwei MLB

[fallen jay]

Yes unicorn and z23 and yes Zwei MlB

[wary skiff]

im guessing i need to finish a 2nd la9 and napoli before moving to the new research tier tmrw? or is it better to jump straight in

[storm olive]

Sit for a little while in 9-4 to level your fleets a little more then try again. Unless your gear is truly horrendous then you should be able to get by with just levels

[soft raft]

how close are you to a 2nd LA-9?

[fallen jay]

I don’t suppose I can do siren ops to get better gear quickly at my current strength csn I?

[wary skiff]

39/50 and 36 napoli prints away

kinda not close to finishing 7 overall tho

[storm olive]

You can try but I would recommend just getting your ships levelled if your backliners are still hanging around lv80

[soft raft]

Hmmm
How close is napoli to D30?

Tho honestly either way you already got Nakhimov to D30 so you could just move on to 8 if you really want to

[wary skiff]

36 prints

[soft raft]

not too bad

pending more info on PR8, you should be able to finish napoli without delaying PR8 too much

[wary skiff]

these la9 prints are ridic, sometimes i get 3 in a day or none for a week or 2 lol

[bleak nymph]

How good or bad is the hazemeyer AA? I’m supposed to use the STAAG on back line right?

[wary skiff]

staag backline for more hit

rat gun best iirc

[soft raft]

Haze is slightly worse than STAGG
still top 3 pick for Backline AA tho

USS UR AA > STAAG > Hazemyer

[cobalt robin]

akashi can appear in any zone right? Whether secured, hidden or explorable. 600 AP down the drain and still haven't seen her

Idk if I'm doing sum wrong or rng fucking me over

[ivory pawn]

Yes, though not Abyssal/Arbiter. Are you strategic searching?

[cobalt robin]

Yes, and it's set on stop strategic search when encounteing merchant

[sweet delta]

600 AP is 🤏 for safe and explorable

[cobalt robin]

Well I still have more but this is just stupid

[sweet delta]

It's not stupid

[ivory pawn]

Run some c5+ Hiddens if you can. Purely anecdotal, but she seems decently common there in my experience.

[cobalt robin]

more like ap negative

[cobalt robin]

Fuck it I'll dump all my ap

[cobalt robin]

Don't have hiddens above c2 left 😔✌🏻

[silk helm]

if u want to farm yellow boxes, just farm c1. I basically spend all my ap on c1 and end up w 70+ yellow boxes at the end of the month

unfortunately tons of AP means nothing if u arent getting lucky w UR drops from cat nodes

[cobalt robin]

rng is a bitch

[cobalt robin]

That was my plan and that's what I've been trying but no akashi

[inland shoal]

Having a dry streak happens easily yes

I mean a single Akashi can give you upwards of 400 AP, so if you met her more often c1 would just be insanely positive and not just "slightly"

[cobalt robin]

I'm -800 ap so far

[quick grotto]

How does FDG compare to Lion and Bis2 when it comes to overall damage?

[vale spindle]

lower

[soft raft]

FdG is more towards the lower end of the UR BB powerscale while Lion and BisZwei are like top 3-5 UR BB period

[left cedar]

i'm still hitting a wall once is about reaching 500k DMG with FdG on hard content like Harbiter or META FIght (kawakaze or the b4 one that i forgot who is)

others BBs like Bis2, Musa Soy etc... can reach that

[quick grotto]

Who's in contention for top 3 UR BB?

[soft raft]

that kinda varies on what content you're doing
If you're doing OpSi bosses for example, Vanguard and Alsace have more weight than usual thanks to their debuff utility

but in terms of raw damage, I'd say BisZwei, Lion, and Soyuz are top 3

Musashi technically still has very good damage, but her main gun restriction means she's less flexible

[quick grotto]

Makes sense, makes sense. Thank you.

[gloomy epoch]

What's the general opinion on Houston 2, good end game ship?

[stark quiver]

No

[viscid swift]

She's +1 CL FP

[soft raft]

you have basically zero need for her outside of the FP tech by that point lol

[autumn oriole]

from what dev level does nahkimov become usable

[soft raft]

30

[pseudo hearth]

I’m curious, I remember back when she came out it was advised not to level up Surcouf’s Blue skill. However, if you give her her augment, should you level her Blue skill then?

[autumn oriole]

not earlier?

because if not im not gonna use her for another 6 months

[soft raft]

she'd be missing planes and be slower prior to that

Not having the Flex slot is also a huge hit to her flexibility

[autumn oriole]

thats sad

guess shes gonna be benched for another 6 months minimum

[stark quiver]

It depends if pr8 is good

[autumn oriole]

thats without prio pr8

[soft raft]

Honestly as a general rule it's either D30 or bust for research ships
Cuz that shit's the equivalent of MLB and Max Enhancements for all intents and purposes

[autumn oriole]

i dont have cubes and missions always only show rigging analysis

or cube missions

[brave bluff]

is there ANY point in having duplicate ships? like two bismarck Zwei... or something

[stark quiver]

Uhh no(?)

[soft raft]

you shouldnt be considering cubing in the first place if you dont have like 800+ cubes

[stark quiver]

Flexing and fleet power

[viscid swift]

sounds like a you problem then
first DR of the season should take around 4 months not 6

[soft raft]

There's pratically zero justification to raising dupes
you can only bring two fleets to campaign
And OpSi has 4 fleets but you cannot put in duplicate ships

[brave bluff]

okay so they are just taking up slots.

[autumn oriole]

tell me how you do it in 4 months without being shafted everyday by 6 blue rigging analysis

[pseudo hearth]

No to what?

[viscid swift]

I'm amused you think that that's a bad thing but

[stark quiver]

Probably don’t level her blue skill

[pseudo hearth]

Even with the augment?

[viscid swift]

good selection of researches and 100% research uptime, nothing more to it

[brave bluff]

i've randomly got some Ultra dupes and... it feels weird to retire them...

[viscid swift]

and knocking out PR5 PRs with coining and such

[zenith heron]

yes, slight reminder that retiring UR Ships gives Sepcialized Cores that are considered within the 5000 count per month... except the ones at Medal Shop

[stark quiver]

Idk if the augment is worth her taking a lot of hits

[dreamy blade]

Idk if her augment even makes her usable

[autumn oriole]

is there a guide for pr research prio?

[soft raft]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[hollow gust]

4 months is slow for first DR dev30, if it's taking 6 months that's just you picking shitty research

[autumn oriole]

oh so i am doing it right

[autumn oriole]

got it, thanks.

[pseudo hearth]

It gives her a barrage when firing her gun

[dreamy blade]

you don't want your subs to be doing that typically

[pseudo hearth]

Obviously he barrage is tied to skill level like most barrages

[left cedar]

from top of my head and no marks on calendar, i do 1 DR with 90's days and 2nd one around 120's

[pseudo hearth]

True, but she’s got the highest HP for a Sub tbf.

[autumn oriole]

i did hindenburg in 6 months, kear bit faster with 2-3 months iirc. the only difference here is literally being permashafted on missions.

[viscid swift]

if it takes you 8 months to finish a season

that's poor research selection and uptime, not RNG

[pseudo hearth]

Surcouf has more HP than some CLs. The obvious place where this falls apart though is she has terrible evasion.

[hollow gust]

shitty luck can slow you down only so much

[autumn oriole]

multiple ship prints at the same time man

im not prio one ship over the duration

[viscid swift]

what

[left cedar]

so u are not focusing and wasting time spliting or doing something wrong

[stark quiver]

It took me almost 2 years to complete kear

[viscid swift]

you do realize that duration alone means jack shit for researches right

[hollow gust]

[left cedar]

[stark quiver]

Supa mog

[viscid swift]

it's all about prints per hour

and the shortest researches don't necessarily give you the most prints per hour

[autumn oriole]

then what does outside of cube ones

[viscid swift]

literally this

[soft raft]

The D researches

In fact the D researches should be your main choice cuz I doubt you have enough cubes to do cube researches on a regular basis while saving up for URs

[left cedar]

it take me around 2y to complete FdG since i did start the game ... she is probally the one that took me more time
since no queue on that time, and no only 1 ship Prints even if its her own face research

[autumn oriole]

Then what am i doing wrong??

[hollow gust]

If you are picking your researches well you are very likely to finish all 3 PRs before your first DR; and it's only going to be faster after that

[stark quiver]

Picking Halford

[viscid swift]

why did you take the off season Brest research for one

[autumn oriole]

im like 10 prints away from finishing her

[left cedar]

focus on DR, PR it will complete doing G's mostly

[viscid swift]

if there was an on season Q, that would have been the better choice

[hollow gust]

Halford isn't the problem

[stark quiver]

5H halford is

[left cedar]

imo taking a PR is a bad choice
PR it will complete over time almost toghether with DRs even with no Face research of them, cuz they are more in Gs or Cubes researchs

[viscid swift]

yeah

[hollow gust]

On season PR is perfectly fine, tf you mean

[viscid swift]

though tbh it's tomato tomato to actually getting the season done

[autumn oriole]

so aside from brest, if the only complaint is halford, im doing it right.

[viscid swift]

anyway, if 100% research uptime is not being maintained then that's another issue

[undone plover]

u are unlikely to be able to run face research 24/7
so it stands to reason u will pick some G research in between faces
G will give more PR and PR will need less prints overall than DR
so taking long PR research is not very ideal
also u get more PR blanks so u need even less PR research

also PR botes are useless anyway

[viscid swift]

I would be tempted honestley to take Qs over PR face researches

[muted crescent]

tell that to my Nep,

[viscid swift]

because you'll want a number of La-9s anyway

[undone plover]

i would just take G and cope DR print but Q1 would be a good pick

[muted crescent]

legit carrying my content lol

[left cedar]

eye candys

i would take Qs over PR Faces cuz as mention above, i wanna flex Gears as well, no funny if u take less than 4 UR Gear pear Season

[slim dome]

hi, just joined in! started the game a month and a half ago and it seems odd how I have almost no fleet tech for Sakura when all the guides say they're one of the easiest factions lol

[muted crescent]

dw I have the same issue

[eternal basalt]

They are easy, in September

[autumn oriole]

wouldnt the actual easiest be ib due to their fat boosts to tech level

[viscid swift]

well if you don't MLB a lot of sakura empire ships that isn't too suprising

[slim dome]

It was very easy to get them once I started running divergent chessboard every day lol

[muted crescent]

that.

I only have 2 done and that's why my fleet tech is like 270

[viscid swift]

tech grinding isn't exactly the easiest when you need so much quantity

[eternal basalt]

Pick Shinano from starter quests

[left cedar]

KMS takes 2x tech per ship, and need something about 30% more fac tech per ship, so it faster get they tech

IJN for begginers need pretty mostly all IJN Ships(in perma or farm) MLB and SRs 120 for all PRs and DRs if iirc (about 2y ago this math) so should be a bit easier, but still quite a battle to get them all tech

[hollow gust]

Eagle and Sakura are everywhere , just need to put some effort MLB them

[slim dome]

alas I picked my now wife

[muted crescent]

oh yeah speaking of URs: do I just use my UR bulin on Traffy or wait for Shinano and use it on her

[viscid swift]

everytime I look at starting the tech requirements from scratch, I remind myself this is why I won't start over

[muted crescent]

💀

[stark quiver]

Low willpower

[autumn oriole]

the reqs and grind at lower levels are brutal

[stark quiver]

Don’t worry I barely get by on my main

[muted crescent]

I was forced to start over man, I am fucking feeling it

[left cedar]

i'm not gona lvling 500+ ships once again

[undone plover]

probabaly trafalger
how many UR do u have?

[slim dome]

Also I am so incredibly sad that I joined mid High Tower and didn't pull Lion lmao

[autumn oriole]

monarch took me 3 years to complete when she just came out

[eternal basalt]

That's what does it, not the 6 year of scrapped by content?

[muted crescent]

she's the only other one besides Zwei, but Zwei alr has MLB

[slim dome]

Traf seems pretty good and I haven't even gotten a lb on her yet

[autumn oriole]

final question before i head off to the chiller channel, trafalgar or z52 focus?

[muted crescent]

icl she dies so fucking fast bro 😭

[slim dome]

but that EVA debuff!

[undone plover]

the other thing u can do is get vanguard when u hit 400 perma pity and MLB her instead

[left cedar]

imo Z52 cuz general buffs for everyone so better general use

[autumn oriole]

z52 it is, thanks!

[muted crescent]

that's gonna take 3 months

[soft raft]

Z52
Trafalgar is mainly there to buff Lion

[autumn oriole]

💳

[muted crescent]

pls no, I'm broke

[eternal basalt]

Gatherings in the Atelier Ryza will count towards yhe 400

[muted crescent]

why tf would I pull for tha

[stark quiver]

if you dont they gone foreva

[muted crescent]

I NEED my cubes for the UR icl si I'm skipping that
I'm in dire straits on 48 cubes

[undone plover]

the EN anni next month will also count for it

[stark quiver]

where did your cubes go

[viscid swift]

because it's a collab that may never return

[muted crescent]

on Zwei event, and my acc's a month and a bit old

[viscid swift]

URs will

[undone plover]

but if u dont want to wait I would just use it on trafalger
she is overall pretty good
so is shinano but shinano excells with hakuryuu/amagi so I find it hard to invest in her alone when u dont have a team for her

[muted crescent]

that's a whole ass yikes. I got Nagato instead of Amagi 😭

[undone plover]

i meant amagi (CV)

[slim dome]

yeah I typically just put my non LB traf at the middle of my boss vanguard and she does good work for me

[muted crescent]

ok I was never gonna get that

[stark quiver]

amagi cv older than your account 😭

[slim dome]

(I'm also at 10-4 on campaign)

[muted crescent]

that's why 😭

[eternal basalt]

Never say never. October 2026

[undone plover]

yeah that is why probably shinano can wait for now
trafalger u can almost always use with your zwei
and maybe mecklenburg if she turns out to be good and u start pr8 focus

[muted crescent]

is it a bad thing that I can't research pr2+ at all ☠️

[viscid swift]

well if you haven't been grinding for tech that's not terribly suprising

[undone plover]

expected for newer players
but u should try and start working on anchorage/agir/FdG when u can

so for example next week will be no event
U can farm divergent chessboard for KMS tech and start work on FdG/agir
or start MLB USS ships and try and get tech ready for anchorage

[muted crescent]

so...

[undone plover]

if u have zwei then getting tech for FdG/agir should be pretty easy

[muted crescent]

I mean I have Otto von Alvensleben, Regensburg, Eugen and Heinrich

[slim dome]

I'm so damn close to the threshold for fdg

[muted crescent]

I can grind just those 4 for tech no?

[undone plover]

otto is good
the rest not worth the gold bulins
u can just get cheaper ships in that war archive if u are still missing tech

[muted crescent]

maybe I go for Plymouth?

[undone plover]

remember u will also need to have some KMS backliners to actually grind the xp missions

[viscid swift]

why

[muted crescent]

I'm stacked on HMS tech points

[viscid swift]

you won't have any BPs for her and won't for a few months at least so she'll be useless

[undone plover]

the reason I say anchorage/agir/FdG is because u can coin them
which means they will be ready to be used very soon
also agir/anchorage are amazing tanks and most new players have no tanks

[viscid swift]

and I rather doubt you'll be getting to the tech requirements for ehr that much faster

[undone plover]

i am sure u have enough KMS tech
just need to MLB some commons/elites

[viscid swift]

don't worry about that to much, just get to W12 first
and please don't use a 0 limit break Trafalgar, 0 limit break ships are garbage

[slim dome]

I've put so many skill books into herrrrr

[muted crescent]

no way u did the same mistake I did 😭

just grind them naturally with KMS ships, analyse those and get UR gear with those protocores

[soft raft]

Hey at least now you dont need to do all of that later

[muted crescent]

oh nvm

[soft raft]

cuz either way URs are gonna be stuck getting lvls just like with all ships

[muted crescent]

it was for Trafalgar 😭

[slim dome]

true! but I could have put them into more useful ships in the short term

Traf is already 104

[muted crescent]

now the real question is do you get the 120 fleet tech boost before MLBing

[stark quiver]

i did that with metas, and some URs

[remote halo]

Want to buy the bp is it worth it ?

[undone plover]

show screenshot
easier to tell
I assume u mean the event shop?

[muted crescent]

not gonna lie

[soft raft]

Only if you really like the skin

[stark quiver]

if you like the skin yes

[muted crescent]

I'm gonna say no unless you really want the skin

[remote halo]

I dont like it so its a no i guess

[soft raft]

the skin is like the majority of the value of the BP
Cuz the rest of the rewards are kinda whatever in the grand scheme of things besides the T2 XP

not to mention the UR Bullin is on the free track

[remote halo]

mhmm

I have another one, which one of these should i buy ? Or should i get both

[undone plover]

the battle pass is decent value but depends why u want to buy it
Is it for cubes? just in general for resources?
the skin?

[remote halo]

Resources i'm new so i gotta get alot i think

[muted crescent]

if you're planning to pay money into this game go for it
if you're not NEVER get these

much better used for dock expansion imo

[undone plover]

left one not worth
right one also not worth especially if u are f2p but it is better value
use gems on dorm and dock space

[viscid swift]

neither

[chrome fiber]

Who should i get

[viscid swift]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[undone plover]

shinano until she is MLB

[novel solstice]

There is a gems command you can run in bot-spam for recommendations on what to spend your gems on. The short answer is "a little dorm and lots of dock space" though.

[viscid swift]

another copy of Shinano for limit breaking

[chrome fiber]

Got it. I do have enough bulin to mlb all my UR. Though would it be better to just save for the future. So another copy of shinano then?

[remote halo]

okok ty guys for replying 👍

[muted crescent]

yup

[viscid swift]

you have/can get how many UR Bullins right now?

[chrome fiber]

I have 6 in the dock and. How much did it cost to buy one from the shop? 4k?

[viscid swift]

yes

[chrome fiber]

15 then

[muted crescent]

bro wtf

[chrome fiber]

[muted crescent]

bro get me 4 I beg bro I eed my traf up to mlb

[chrome fiber]

trade me some cubes

[slim dome]

wait there's a dorm second floor what??? I bought a fourth slot lol

[muted crescent]

welp

[viscid swift]

get a copy of Vanguard instead then

[undone plover]

maybe u can get vanguard and do
shinano
vanguard
zwei
and leave NJ for perma dupes later

[chrome fiber]

Oki!

[viscid swift]

also get your Zwei, Raffaello/Vanguard, and Shinano leveled up

[chrome fiber]

Yeah im currently farming them

[undone plover]

lion and implacable also
all your MLB UR should be 120 at least

[dusk dirge]

Which of the rainbow AA guns is better? Twin 76 or Twin 57?

I have one 57 and I want to make another for W14 and W15

[viscid swift]

76mm

[dusk dirge]

Just focus on that or mix them?

[viscid swift]

just 76s

[dusk dirge]

I’m slowly learning about how AA works

[undone plover]

u can pretty much ignore the twin 57 from now on
obviously use the one u have
also dont go overboard turning all your blank designs to AA designs

[dusk dirge]

Thanks! I am not. I just got 9 designs for AA so I figured why not

[stark quiver]

dont turn blanks into AA yet

[dusk dirge]

I’m not! I’m using those for planes/guns

[slim dome]

Oh for God's sake, I didn't see the floors bc I didn't expand the first floor past one

[muted crescent]

you need to expand 1st floor fully

[slim dome]

I did just now lol

[fallen jay]

Ok so how can I make my ships fight even through moral loss? Or rather how do I get around it? Cause my mob fleets moral is does at 20 and anymore and it’ll start hitting the affinity

[undone plover]

u dorm them and u wait

[stark quiver]

you send them in after clicking ignore affinity loss notif in a sortie

or you just wait for morale to recharge because thats more xp efficient

[slim dome]

but yes now I have Grey Ghost Wife and Bnuuy Wife

[fallen jay]

Which ones are that?

[slim dome]

Enterprise and NJ

[fallen jay]

Ah sweet!

Would it be worth it to spend time making another mob fleets to use when this main one is low on morale since I have an abundance of oil currently? To level up my other ships so that I can unlock tech for the PR?

[slim dome]

eh, maybe, but unicorn is practically mandatory

[viscid swift]

you can't afford that at this stage

[fallen jay]

Drat. So I have no choice but to wait…

[muted crescent]

I've managed to do that only because somehow I built 2 fleets from the get go 💀
not recommended

focus on one fleet, get all the good gear for it and go 2nd onwards

[carmine heath]

is next ur event unzen or new ur

[viscid swift]

tbd, probably a new UR event

[fallen jay]

Hey so should I get any of these ships?

[stark quiver]

ryuuhou is hit tech and ijn tech

[fallen jay]

Any that can serve me very well in making a third fleet? Or serve as replacement for nay members of the fleet?

[stark quiver]

no

you dont even need a third fleet

[dusk dirge]

Is it worth making a carrier anti light armor fleet, or do BB’s just do better? I have two sky raiders but whenever I make a fleet for it, it doesn’t seem to out perform BB’s.

I tried it with Kearsage and Yorktown II.

[stark quiver]

are you syncing them correctly?
it also depends on cats, tech and what vanguards you use

[undone plover]

a properly set up and invested kear ykii should perform better than any non lion fleet

[fallen jay]

What makes the avenger better for unicorn than the swordfish?

[stark quiver]

how about kear yk2 and lion

[dusk dirge]

Thanks, I wanted to ask before I started investing in the fleet.

[undone plover]

tbf the BB fleet is cheaper, easier to use and performs well enough

[fallen jay]

I was comparing the two and the only thing I can see different is that one is royal navy and the other is eagle Union

[dusk dirge]

I am synching and I got air raid assist, and enough catspults. But I want to know because my sky raiders are basically collecting dust

[soft raft]

Probably something to do with their bombs

Specifically the amount of bombs and how heavy they are

[stark quiver]

it might not be good because of 2 reasons
you need 82 reload for yk2, so thats max tech and cats + suisei
you now have 2 bbs and 2 cv cats
but this is also for one strike and you can probably blast through the shield

[slim dome]

are avengers better than cudas?

[stark quiver]

no?

[fallen jay]

One has 4 the other has 5?

[slim dome]

is why I ask

[stark quiver]

avengers are prob better than swordfish
barracuda are probably better than avenger

[dusk dirge]

82 reload? Mine has 137

[fallen jay]

Also isn’t gold steam catapult just overall better? Is there a reason I should use the purple version over it if I have a copy of it?

[dusk dirge]

Am I misreading it?

[viscid swift]

82 additional reload from fleet tech, cats, etc

[dusk dirge]

Ok

[soft raft]

Wait what
The only way Avenger clashes with Steam catapult is if you're using the ASW variant which is basically used only in W14+

[stark quiver]

infact, its not even 82 reload
probably more cuz oaths

but thats for one striking so you dont need to worry abt it

tldr, a good kear yk2 is better than almost all other antilight options

[fallen jay]

Oh no I’m reading off the whole picture I took of gear that it recommends for Unicorn and the fleet I was given.

[soft raft]

No but where the fuck does Steam catapult come into play
It's a aux gear not a plane

[stark quiver]

new plane moment

[fallen jay]

You see I gave Enterpise the golden Steam catapult but I opened boxes and got a second one. Unicorn is also wanting a steam catapult for some reason on one of her auxes.

[slim dome]

bc it's like the best carrier aux lol

[soft raft]

Steam Catapult is basically the only Aux for Carriers 99% of the time

[fallen jay]

So I figured why use the purple over the gold?

[dusk dirge]

What is that 82 reload requirement for? Just additional attacks or for timing? I’m using a homing beacon to get my synch.

[slim dome]

If you need the gold for a different ship

[soft raft]

When you lack enough gold catapults to replace all of the purple ones

[dusk dirge]

Thanks. I will keep tinkering.

[stark quiver]

tempy this month has a 20s barrier
having 82 reload + oaths + suisei bypasses the shield

this is assuming youre fighting hard arbiter
if you just wanna one shot,
kear uses mk7, hvar, twin 76/staag, afct, white shell
and yk2 with double hvar and a skyraider

[dusk dirge]

I have one HVAR and two
sky raider. Is that a big difference?

[stark quiver]

1 hvar
3 bb may or may not be better

[undone plover]

that is enough to suggest u should just use BB fleet and wait till u get more HVAR if u want to make a CV fleet instead
especially if u have lion

[dusk dirge]

3BB is better. I’m just tinkering trying to get kear/ykii working.

[stark quiver]

bro bought all 4 slots 😭

[dusk dirge]

I’ll hold out for one the HVAR is back.

I’m assuming it because the sky raider is slower?

[remote halo]

is it bad ?

[stark quiver]

if youre f2p yea

[remote halo]

cuz its too much gems ?

[stark quiver]

yes

[remote halo]

okok

[stark quiver]

skyraider slower is alright
but a lot of the fleet's damage comes from hvars, and kear yk2 runs like 4 or 5

[short matrix]

is Lion better than Vanguard?

darn, liked Vanguard more, but my UK fleet could use a buff

[soft raft]

In terms of damage yes and it's not really that close

Vanguard is mainly about her debuff utility

[stark quiver]

could just run lion and vanguard together

[dusk dirge]

I’m dense, sorry for the questions but I’m just getting into the numbers with this game.

The sky raider has 8HVaR vs the 6 for the F6FHVAR.

Other than the speed difference, why is the F6FHVAR better?

[dusk dirge]

I use Lion, Biz2, and Vanguard. Vanguard has the debuff.

[stark quiver]

ouh, cuz its a fighter, we usually call the f6f hvar hellcat "hvars" and the skyraider "skyraider"

york2 has 2 fighter slots and one dive bomber slot, so people usuaully run 2 hvar hellcats and 1 skyraider

[short matrix]

backline currently Vanguard, Uni retrofit, and Implacable.

[dusk dirge]

Ahhh, is there a benefit to a fighter other than interception?

[soft raft]

Yeah implacable ain't really doing shit there

[dusk dirge]

Do the planes do HVAR during interception?

[viscid swift]

no

[dusk dirge]

Wait the HVAR doesn’t intercept

[soft raft]

Rocket fighters don't intercept
It's mainly Skyraider's slower reload time that screws it over outside of OpSi

[dusk dirge]

Thanks!

[short matrix]

what is implacable for?

[undone plover]

Vs light armor skyraider does more dmg than hvar
However you need both since u cant just equip skyraider in all 3 slots of a carrier

Also hvar has shorter CD so u can have a fleet with 4 salvo with HVAR vs only 3 if u use skyraider and I think in the current meta 4 salvo beats 3 salvo in light armor

[soft raft]

Her main utility is the freeze
Specifically in Triple CV boss comps in OpSi where all three ships are synced to her freeze to maximize damage with converging TBS

Vanguard's more relevant Debuff also only works for BBs so Unicorn and Implacable aren't benefitting from it at all

[dusk dirge]

Ok, so it’s salvo then. Got it.

I’ll need to hold out for the second F6F

[stark quiver]

pray it goes straight into gear lab

[short matrix]

Uni is mainly used for tanking purposes, her heal helps keep low level ships alive when grinding secretary missions or PR research

[soft raft]

That's not really the point here
And tbh Lion's stronger damage output would also help shorten fights so your low lvl ships don't eat as much damage

[dusk dirge]

I’m 21/25 for another HVAR…. I didn’t grind hard enough first time because of the holidays.

What would a third ship recommendation be? Should I focus on a stop?

[stark quiver]

pick between fritz rumey, nakhimov, lion, enterprise
i personally like using nakhimov

[dusk dirge]

Ok. I almost have Nak at max limit break.

I have been using Enterprise in my attempts.

Is AVP trash? She has a stop and bonus damage to light armor.

[stark quiver]

nakh is better
60% slow is enough for arbiter
and just more dmagae

[dusk dirge]

Ok. Can’t wait to get her. I seem to be missing out on the fun. 28/30

[soft raft]

She was the top bossing utility CV before Implacable became a thing

Nowadays she's not as relevant esp after Nakhimov came out, tho it's worth noting that the cat needs another NP ship that has a slow to actually have a freeze (it's a regular slow otherwise)

[dusk dirge]

Yes I have Soyuz primed and ready in my med armor, which I will use Nak with if I need the stop.

[void walrus]

Nak also gets some buffs if a NP slow hits a foe

An extra 40% crit damage

Plus the slowdown

[calm wedge]

[soft raft]

that's what I mean by her upgrade to a freeze

[sinful socket]

Which NP ship would you recommend to go with her?

[stark quiver]

Soyuz

[forest palm]

ones with good tech

[sinful socket]

What if I don't have Soyuz? She close to reroll?

Welp not before a long time I guess

[soft raft]

somewhat close

There's other NP slows like Tashkent, Chkalov (At FS5), and Voroshilov but Soyuz is the most consistent one namely since it's easier to sync them together

[sinful socket]

So basically next UR rerun should be Unzen, and next UR added to standard banner should be Musashi

[soft raft]

Yes

[blissful hamlet]

is datamine up now?

[soft raft]

come back in like 4 hours

[blissful hamlet]

I will come back

[white agate]

send devs a mail and ask them for early datamine(i'll be sleeping next 8h anyway )

[blissful hamlet]

any clue on goulden leuw exp grind?

[soft raft]

nope

[flint sonnet]

Prototype twin 457 vs twin 410 ?

[soft raft]

Twin 457 > Twin 410
Tho realistically Twin 410 works fine for most of campaign, I didnt really use Twin 457 until like W14

[sinful socket]

Gear good? (I don't have UR gear)

[soft raft]

for what content?

[sinful socket]

Probably campaign bossing

And event bossing

And OPSI ?

[soft raft]

That works i guess
converging TB kinda a odd choice but she has her own freeze so she can at least make it work better than most

not for OpSi tho
it's gonna be different there

[slim dome]

Should I have partial LB Zwei or full LB Arizona as off flag in a campaign boss fleet?

[ancient burrow]

when does the returnee thingy starts, two/three weeks after last logged in?

[soft raft]

I want to say like a month but I've heard it vary
but if you're trying to deliberately activate it, it's not worth the time lost

[ancient burrow]

havent logged in two weeks as of tomorrow, got too busy with life and sht so if i were to get back in, i wouldnt wanna just have it as normal... kinda selfish maybe

[soft raft]

yeah that sounds like wishful thinking
2 weeks sounds too short

[carmine heath]

Is franklin better than enty?

[sweet delta]

Franklin is expected Enty

[zenith heron]

Franklin I think is better than a 70% proc Enty

[calm wedge]

Who's franklin 😵‍💫

[dusk maple]

Essex class CV USS Franklin

[slow fox]

No one uses <expected value> in lay parlance, Suchiperson

[fallen jay]

Would it be a terrible idea to replace one ship that’s low level into my mob fleet to level it up?

On world 9-4?

[calm wedge]

I must have missed the event 😞

Her rigging is cool asf

[soft raft]

It is what it is

[scarlet fractal]

who should I get

[calm wedge]

Must be the only EU ships I dont have now 😅

[slim dome]

does fate sim coin up cost not reset like print development did?

[sweet delta]

Probably Shoukaku

[scarlet fractal]

aight

[viscid swift]

it does

[slim dome]

also oof @ the 60k coin cost for FDG lmao

[sweet delta]

That's pocket change for what it'll cost to dev 30 or fs5 her in a decent timeframe

[slim dome]

it's more just having to convince myself to not spend it on the million other things that need coins

[strange path]

When does a pr get coin ups? When 8 comes out does it mean we can coin pr5?

[viscid swift]

no, you'll be waiting until January/February for that

[spare harbor]

i cleared the entire stage and it still says incomplete
am i missing something

[viscid swift]

no, you just have to degeat 6 more escort(non boss) fleets

[spare harbor]

so u have to complete every stage twice?

[viscid swift]

well the number varries but for main campaign stages no you should not expect to 3 star them in one clear

[hoary relic]

next UR event in 2 more months right?

[spare harbor]

alr thx

[viscid swift]

assuming they don't do a rerun in that time yes

[hoary relic]

🤔 hope so so i can save up my cubes

[viscid swift]

well we have a collab rerun later this month probably

[stark quiver]

the ultimate coob killer

[hoary relic]

anyways, warspite is only for PVP or she can be used for bossing?

[viscid swift]

she's about as good as NJ

[hoary relic]

ye with her aug but is she good for bossing or only for PVP?

[viscid swift]

she's as good as NJ on bossing is what I'm saying

[hoary relic]

alr i c

[viscid swift]

i.e. bottom half of UR BBs

[hoary relic]

VIT 2 is better than ryusei or?

[viscid swift]

they're timing sidegrades

[hoary relic]

ryusei for faster reload?

[wind hazel]

saiun ju87 ryusei vit2
<--- rld timing
damage --->

[viscid swift]

oh datamine is up from CN

[wind hazel]

that's early

[faint cloud]

gl's tech requirement is ib 800 + sardegna 200

[wind hazel]

woaw (idk what the numbers mean actually)

[viscid swift]

oh wow, GL only has 105% MGE

[hoary relic]

is that meck gun?

[viscid swift]

lol +2 AA at 120

[hoary relic]

wait is she BC or BB? BC right? cuz she is using 305mm guns

[wind hazel]

lol another 170% BB

[faint cloud]

uhh 23.14 not as expected as a fast gun

[viscid swift]

@slow fox be prepared for eHP calcs please

also medium armor, that was not expected

[hoary relic]

🤔 AP ?

[viscid swift]

let me get Mecklenburg

[vale spindle]

can u dm me all the cn infographics like this one k thx

or post them in ecgc saraposting and ping me idc

[wind hazel]

gouden looks like another AA ship

[faint cloud]

gl can use cb gun

[viscid swift]

can I just share you the link to the Bilibili guy who posts them?

[vale spindle]

that works too

[viscid swift]

https://space.bilibili.com/4305299/dynamic

[faint cloud]

we finally have rainbow cham gun now

[hoary relic]

305mm calibre

[molten zinc]

Uh idk if 135 - 125 mod is good enough tho

[hoary relic]

isnt 23s is kinda slow for a 305mm calibre gun?

[viscid swift]

also can I just say, what is the point of calling her a CA when they encourage her to use large caliber guns anyway

[molten zinc]

It's a BB gun not CB

[molten zinc]

2/1/3 so she can stock her salvo as well?

[viscid swift]

huh, Mecklenburg has a Musashi like tanking skill for the flagship

wait how the TF does that work with Musashi then

[hoary relic]

[short matrix]

How does one perform recon on "anomalous zones" also, is there a good way for increasing odds of getting certain things to show up for OPSI stars?

[wind hazel]

this any good?

[viscid swift]

mori give us a sec

[wind hazel]

[hoary relic]

oh meck is a BB not BC

[silk hedge]

mecklenburg is definitely meant to be paired with bismarck zwei

[faint cloud]

what is duo-duo

[wind hazel]

no idea lol

[hoary relic]

oh meck is DR, welp

gotta finish ply first

[wind hazel]

looks like a premium heavy gun

[molten zinc]

Yeah look like it

[wind hazel]

17*17 is the spread yeah?

[viscid swift]

yeah

[molten zinc]

Yup

[viscid swift]

though honestley, I don't think I'm gonna be in that much of a rush to get 3 of these

[wind hazel]

next meta Heavy confirmed

[silk hedge]

wait is that 539 Firepower on meck ?

[slow fox]

I can barely read this 😭

[viscid swift]

I'll just bust out Shinano and Amagi CV

[slow fox]

What's a slacking strike

[viscid swift]

uhh

[slow fox]

Damage to the old man

[hollow gust]

Syncing Lion with Meck and Bismarck

[viscid swift]

is it me or does Cuniberti look pretty ass

holy shit what is that red skill

[hoary relic]

jesus, lots of words to read

[stark quiver]

oh shit its anson

[viscid swift]

hmm, this might actually make Shoukaky great again

[hoary relic]

is that a flute?

[viscid swift]

yes

[hoary relic]

[gusty olive]

Quad gun actually decent???

[forest palm]

that's goofy

[hoary relic]

surely better than chammpy for heavy?

[stark quiver]

read the image

[hoary relic]

yep surely better than champy, and much more expensive

[stark quiver]

well meck gun doesnt cost protocore

[tidal meteor]

UR AP gun?

Also Meck already powercrept Lion?

[hoary relic]

u mean we cant buy its part with proto core?

[zenith heron]

too early

[stark quiver]

well the new research gun cant be protocored as of now
it costs time, coins and plates instead

[zenith heron]

we don't even have the La 9 yet on protocore

[turbid marsh]

holy gouden leuw is another w15 stronk ship eh?

[hoary relic]

sounds like we need to do research for meck's gun parts

[faint cloud]

and again meck's fp stat and eff is insane

[viscid swift]

also has really high reload

her and Zwei is a nasty combo

[turbid marsh]

can actually use yamato gun

[hoary relic]

[turbid marsh]

with zwei, her reload is probably suitable for yamato gun eh?

[forest palm]

when faction buff unironically comes into play

[late flame]

ib unicorn when

[gusty olive]

In before faction fleet IB becomes meta

[forest palm]

problem is there isn't a good 3rd KMS BB worth running over Alsus, Vanny, or Lion

[viscid swift]

it won't

[forest palm]

Fritz maybe

[viscid swift]

IB doesn't have a Plymouth, Eldridge, Aurora, Helena, etc

[forest palm]

Chap kind of gets there

[viscid swift]

yeah in this fight

[soft raft]

So what's the rundown so far?
(I'm on my phone rn so the text in the images is too tiny)

[turbid marsh]

ib has a nerfed ver though, that twin XD

[stark quiver]

new UR gun is champy gun killer

[viscid swift]

Mecklenburg is another modern UR BB(3x170% MGE like Lion and over 500 FP base, also really fast and can hold 2 salvos)

[tidal meteor]

New AA gun decent accelerator? Or dead on arrival?

[viscid swift]

Golden Luew might be a better Guam

[faint cloud]

straight up more 100

[soft raft]

Moment

[forest palm]

I'd rather wait on proper testing before making that claim, less you wanna end up like Brest Gun

[turbid marsh]

it looks like a damage version guam with less aa

[hoary relic]

[vale spindle]

if it wasn't clear already datamine will be delayed cause nagami is ded and if hes ded it means i gotta solo it but i need to dinner first

[viscid swift]

yeah Nagami told us already

[slow fox]

Why did you kill Nagami

[stark quiver]

rip nyagyamy

[vale spindle]

he has a wife and a life

[stark quiver]

[vale spindle]

jk he doesn't have a wife (yet)

[viscid swift]

I did not expect Saratoga and Saratoga chan to need so much attention

[stark quiver]

ah , balance has been restored

[slow fox]

ultra omega prelim

[soft raft]

Lmao

[grizzled sundial]

Opinion on the UR quad stat ?

[viscid swift]

oh yeah mebot, you have a new BB for your damage sponge main flete

[forest palm]

is there any perspective gear from PR8 so far on a cursory glance?

[slow fox]

Mecklenburg?

[viscid swift]

Kansas gun has the same reload as Yamato Gun and the 283mm is an HE gub

[grizzled sundial]

Wut ? Heavy ? For 305 caliber ?

[viscid swift]

yeah, she tanks damage for the flagship

[dawn ginkgo]

Does anyone have the link for the spreadsheet

[faint cloud]

4 runs of meck gun is close to 3 runs of yamato so better grind 3 i think🐌

[soft raft]

Kansas Gun having Yamato Gun reload

God dammit did they learn nothing from PR6

[slow fox]

Aha

So:

Musashi Raffaelo Mecklenberg
Napoli Brest Agir

for notdying

[fiery finch]

No anti air gun?

Research pr8

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[viscid swift]

doesn't exist yet

[tidal meteor]

They got to have at least one useless gear each season; last season was Napoli's CL SAP gun

[viscid swift]

there is, just haven't bothered looking at it

[fiery finch]

I see

[dawn ginkgo]

That's all good then

[faint cloud]

the aa gun's range is 25🚮

[viscid swift]

ew

anyway, does anyone know what pattern the new torps are?

[patent pivot]

wouldnt the effective ehp be lower on that than something with more speed since theyll eat every bullet

[viscid swift]

and if they're magnetic

[hoary relic]

does perm pool's pity count collab banner pulls ?

[viscid swift]

something like that

also don't forget Z52 for even more damage reduction on the flagship

[hollow gust]

It's perfectly fine having guns for niche timings

[viscid swift]

idr, probably

[faint cloud]

non-magnetic

[viscid swift]

I have lost all interest in them

[soft raft]

[tidal meteor]

Yeah the gear is largely trash again, back to PR5 gear research after I get three Meck guns

[forest palm]

lookin like PR8 is pretty piss poor for Gear

[grizzled sundial]

Meck have special barrage skill ?

[hollow gust]

Imagine Godlike pattern, Doesn't need mag

[viscid swift]

and what would this "godlike" pattern look like

[forest palm]

I assume parallel pattern?

[grizzled sundial]

Something that would hit entire area and each individual shell do a lot damage ?

[slow fox]

I haven't considered speed in average lifetime calcs.

I would assume that there's some ideal speed to be at to maximize lifetime.

[faint cloud]

as long as the banner doesn't have ur, it should count

[hoary relic]

hope it is.............

[tidal meteor]

Godlike cope

[patent pivot]

smh my head, not even simming speed. cant believe this

[grizzled sundial]

If i read this right , Meck support skill buff the damage to heavy armor enemy for the entire fleet ?

[faint cloud]

herself

cuz the 15% dmg buff on heavy for entire fleet is godlikecope()

[grizzled sundial]

That seems to be very different than her WoWS counterpart 🤔

So , reliable 3 BB against heavy armor boss ?

[carmine heath]

is the german pr8 ship a main or vanguard ship

[grizzled sundial]

She a BB

[carmine heath]

this comes after i spend 2 weeks leveling biszwei and fdg to lvl 125 okok manjuu i see how it is

[grizzled sundial]

Also , for the Tulipa ship , which faction is needed to grind the XP ?

[carmine heath]

wheres strausser she's going to get conscripted

[viscid swift]

probably Sardegnia and Iron Blood

[faint cloud]

not probably, it is

[viscid swift]

meow

[hoary relic]

mhm i just got agir, time to farm exp for her and meck

[viscid swift]

tbd but I would just use CVs

[soft raft]

Agir doesnt count for Meck XP

[hoary relic]

oops i mean bis2

[soft raft]

unless you meant farming her lvls while doing CDC

[viscid swift]

Shoukaku also just got a good Augment anyway

[carmine heath]

good enough to use or

[eternal moth]

What's the info on the augs?

[soft raft]

Ruihe = Zuikaku?

[grizzled sundial]

So she buff her sister too , but doesn't have special barrage thinggy .

[viscid swift]

pretty sure yes

though that part is bait

[soft raft]

[hoary relic]

[wary skiff]

is medium just worse than heavy?

[viscid swift]

not necessarily

[wary skiff]

i usually took med hulls vs stuff that had more torpedos iit felt like, like napoli instead of agir for kawakaze meta

[viscid swift]

both have heavy armor lamo

[soft raft]

Heavy takes more damage from torpedoes

[wary skiff]

i thought napoli was med

[viscid swift]

she's not

[soft raft]

nah she's heavy

[wary skiff]

ah i mustve remembered wrong then since someone told me she was anchorage 2.0

[eternal moth]

Am I reading this right, the SN ship has the most HP of any CL?

[viscid swift]

she is

but that doesn't mean they have the same armor type

[eternal moth]

Yeah, Napoli is a tankier Ancho

[eager mulch]

is this still a cat?

[viscid swift]

meow

[eager mulch]

also no datamine link tonight?

[viscid swift]

doesn't exist yet for EN

[soft raft]

Nagami died

[eternal moth]

Images of the machine translations from CN have been posted, scroll up

[eager mulch]

im on mobile

[eternal moth]

And?

[sweet delta]

Just you wait one month. We will fix that before Monarch aug

[hoary relic]

[viscid swift]

I predict we get Gascogne aug before Monarch aug

[eternal moth]

Can someone explain the 2/1/3 on Mek's main gun for me?

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

she can probably hold 2 salvos like Alsace and Lion

[sweet delta]

Same as Lion

[eternal moth]

Thanks

Also, am I crazy for thinking she might be absolutely broken?

[hoary relic]

we need to do researching for meck gun's parts like la9?

[viscid swift]

no but I'm not gonna say that until I see properly translated skills and barrage numbers

[eternal moth]

PR8 rainbow gun is going to be perma-research at this point

[viscid swift]

good thing you only need 3

[hollow gust]

The annoying part is the pos gold plates

[hoary relic]

🥀 360 gold plates for +13

that's like 2 months grinding OpSi, right?

[stark quiver]

i wish

[wind hazel]

i wish it's just 2 months

[eager mulch]

can you whale gold plate

[wind hazel]

not in any effective ways

[hoary relic]

dang so more than 2 months excluding other sources?

[eager mulch]

gem -> oil-> AP -> opsi

infinite gold plate exploit (real)

[stark quiver]

yea

[wind hazel]

even with c1 exploit i think the increase is not that big either

[eternal moth]

540 FP with a 170% eff and spread reduction... and she's about the same speed as Musashi

[stark quiver]

correct

[hoary relic]

dawg

[eager mulch]

that why you whale AP and do C6 trust me

im very trustable

[wind hazel]

daily 100 runs C6

[eager mulch]

200 C6 runs in the time it takes for one uma career

[hollow gust]

360 plates is what , 2 months of gold plate income ; including all the blanks from opsi and event

[stark quiver]

since new AP gun reload too long
i will +13 my mog gun LOL

[eternal moth]

I didn't see a datamine for the other DR, did I miss it?

[wind hazel]

hmm

[shell willow]

what are the properties of the new bb gun?

[eternal moth]

Better champy

[hoary relic]

avg amount perr month or?

[stark quiver]

lies

[eager mulch]

moddifier

[wind hazel]

yeah, give or take

[eternal moth]

Also, it looks like Mek and Bisco are going to be a terrifying combo.

[whole crypt]

looking at weibo patch notes is that the mk7 in pr8?

[eager mulch]

im taking all your gold plate

[wind hazel]

-# please no i need for amagi-chan UR

[sweet delta]

yes it is the mk7, the one that's a gold musashi gun

[viscid swift]

I blame WG Shenanigans

[whole crypt]

[viscid swift]

it's a Triple 406mm/45 Mk7

I know, it's dumb

[eager mulch]

[whole crypt]

rainbow is quad 305 wtf?

[grizzled sundial]

I should get Peter ready too for that 10% damage bonus .

[eager mulch]

mecklenburg is a funny bb in wows

[whole crypt]

do we have ⛏️ yet

[wind hazel]

chinese ones

[soft raft]

Nagami is currently dead

[sonic hemlock]

This was COMPLETELY expected. AL follows WoWs' gun reloads, Kansas' gun is 40s in WoWs, so it was a given that her gun was going to be slow as molasses.

[eternal moth]

So Kansas gun is essentially DOA?

[soft raft]

Oh
Didn't know since I don't play WoWs

[eager mulch]

kid called adrenaline rush

[eager mulch]

probably but who knows maybe it’ll be good!

[whole crypt]

nevermind I'll dig again on Sunday no time for AL

[viscid swift]

yeah

[sonic hemlock]

Yeah.

[soft raft]

Moment

[sonic hemlock]

The line's gimmick is that it's slow, both in ship and reload speed, but it hits hard.

[viscid swift]

if you can actually hit which Kansas cannot

[eager mulch]

PR9 colombo to powercreep BB guns once again

[viscid swift]

also fo refference, Yamato's 460s reload in 30 seconds

[whole crypt]

just let me know how many copies of quad 305 sounds good

[wind hazel]

3

[viscid swift]

3

[faint cloud]

gl's avi support spreadsheet

[stark quiver]

wait
2nd best EX ap gun?

[whole crypt]

so more time for more q152s

[viscid swift]

yeah

[hoary relic]

how many "flies" does w15 have?

[whole crypt]

planes? hundreds

[wind hazel]

more than Africa

[hoary relic]

[eager mulch]

source?

[stark quiver]

me

[wind hazel]

my great grandfather told me in my dream last night

[eager mulch]

im bed gn

[whole crypt]

I'll decide which pr to go back to later I guess

[stark quiver]

maybe i should get my third plygun

[hoary relic]

we have coins up for pr1-4 right? but not for 5-7 rn right?

[viscid swift]

well the PR5 PRs have coining

[hoary relic]

only PRs not DRs right?

dang gotta do research for ply's bp

[forest palm]

PR6 still seems to be the worst season so far

[hoary relic]

should i do catch up for ply or do research only?

[normal cedar]

why would you not do catchup?

[wind hazel]

catchup good. faster dev30 ply=stronger team

[hoary relic]

i have done 50% of her catch up

[sharp socket]

which of the small ships are not obtainable in build pool

[sweet delta]

Vittorio cuniberti

[stark quiver]

where is other 50

[wind hazel]

if you mean chibis, i think taihou-chan and onwards

[sharp socket]

i have shinano chan, mini formi, mini agir, taihou chan, amagi chan, mini ancho

which ones can i scrap and get later in build pool

[hoary relic]

currently doing, i shall finish doing catch up before finishing developing ply

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Building

[stark quiver]

just do both man

[sharp socket]

is amagi chan in build pool

[soft raft]

Just go look at the link mori sent

[elfin hollow]

Is macklen gun ap?

[hoary relic]

🥀

[sonic hemlock]

Yeah, seems to be.

[viscid swift]

^

This thing is already paying for itself

[elfin hollow]

Alright nice thank you

[blissful hamlet]

Is datamine up now?

[vale spindle]

no im working on it

[blissful hamlet]

Thankless work

[wind hazel]

🧎🏼‍♂️

[soft raft]

Nagami still dead

[viscid swift]

I ate him

[stark quiver]

hi sammy
i might finish the handbook page before summer

[soft raft]

It's already summer (at least here in the US) tho

[hoary relic]

i need like 2 months to fully dev and fs5 agir eh , should i exchange general DR bp for hers?

[stark quiver]

ends*

[soft raft]

She still doesn't have a fate sim

[hoary relic]

🤔 so this is a lie?

[soft raft]

That's the game pre-emptively adding the feature to all research ships when they come out so they don't have to go back and add it in when they actually do get one

[wind hazel]

game code treat as if they have fate sim, you want to reserve for her future fate sim, but she doesn't have it now

[forest palm]

think of it as a placeholder for w/e they want to implement FS

[hoary relic]

[soft raft]

Also here to answer your question on how long it would take

[wind hazel]

also use only DR4 blanks, don't use DR5 and above blanks for agir

[hoary relic]

yep surely i wont

[wind hazel]

can't trust people nowadays :susge:

[hoary relic]

127 blank bp for ply, yipe

[oak sluice]

Just convert blanks to protocore 👍

[hoary relic]

[hoary relic]

i'd do that with CDC but uh maybe not with blank DR bp

[elfin hollow]

YO WHAT NO WAY MECKLEN HAS THAT MUCH FP

[viscid swift]

Uhhh, why are you surprised

[hoary relic]

new meta coming

[viscid swift]

Not that HP is the most important factor anyway of a BB

[hoary relic]

make BB meta great again ig

[elfin hollow]

HP

Bro can't read

[forest palm]

next months cruise sure

[viscid swift]

I mean 16 guns does that

Among other things

But anyway she kinda needs it

63 hit and no luck

[elfin hollow]

Not an issue with that UR aux

[viscid swift]

It is still

[hoary relic]

using gems to increase supply cap is a stupid idea right?

[viscid swift]

Because you're still not over capping on hit rate unless you're in pretty niche circumstances

[viscid swift]

Yes

[sonic hemlock]

Yes, you'll never hit max depot unless you're filling it with trash.

[hoary relic]

no not depot, the supply cap in dorm

[sonic hemlock]

Oh that. Also yes.

[hoary relic]

but that's also a stupid idea ngl

[vale spindle]

is the torp magnetic or not 🙏🏽

[sonic hemlock]

Like, if you're keeping only two ships in the dorm at any point, the base supply gets you like 13 hours or so.

[viscid swift]

No

[vale spindle]

what a dogshit equipment

🙏🏽 ty

[viscid swift]

Can't say I'm surprised

[wind hazel]

waiting for quad mag to be powercrept day 1976

[viscid swift]

Dogshit gear for a mediocre ship

[stark quiver]

new anson

[vale spindle]

it launches in a 2x2 pattern though theres that

[sonic hemlock]

Are you surprised? Cuniberti is in the top 10 for worst torp DPM for T8 DDs in WoWs. Of course her torps would be bad in AL.

[viscid swift]

Most people here donate play WoWs

[stark quiver]

does blitz count

[viscid swift]

also you and I both know dpm is a pretty useless metric for comparing torps

[wind hazel]

Ship Smasha, one of the name of all time

[hoary relic]

isnt kidd is an anti sub DD?

[sonic hemlock]

No Kidd is a gunboat.

[stark quiver]

ah the wh40k

[hoary relic]

make sense why its torp is trash

[hollow gust]

When has WOWs matter for AL

[viscid swift]

What

Kidd isn't even in the game

[sonic hemlock]

...When PR is literally a collab with WoWs?

[stark quiver]

goose living under a rock

[hollow gust]

So? They can make a ship however strong the want with skill and barrages

[hoary relic]

isnt that AL base on WOWs and real ships?

[stark quiver]

no lol

[hoary relic]

[sonic hemlock]

We're talking about the gear, not skills or barrages.

[stark quiver]

only PR seasons are somewhat in relation to WoWs

[wind hazel]

i mean just talk about the ship and gear in AL. referencing back to WoW is a dead end

[viscid swift]

I was half expecting them to be super slow travel magnetic torps though maybe that was wishful thinking

[wind hazel]

like who cares what happens in WoW, what matters is how they perform in AL lol

[sonic hemlock]

I'm merely using WoWs as a reference to why the gear is bad. Kansas' gun is slow as fuck because it's slow in WoWs as well.

[wind hazel]

yeah ok that's good but nobody cares about WOW here

[hollow gust]

Doesn't matter still ; the only thing they use from wows is the name and how it looks

[viscid swift]

I would disagree but

[wind hazel]

like cheeky said, almost nobody play WOW here

[viscid swift]

The WoWs point of reference is pretty useless here since most don't actually play it

[late flame]

TIL wow exists

[blissful hamlet]

Is datamine up now?

[hoary relic]

[blissful hamlet]

:god:

[wind hazel]

sam is working on it

[rapid grail]

[blissful hamlet]

Datamine is in fact not up

[wind hazel]

everytime you ask, sam will delay by 30minutes. fax

[viscid swift]

Anyways, Janus sucks

[hoary relic]

[blissful hamlet]

You are not up either

[sinful escarp]

datamine up?

[viscid swift]

Just be patient or read the machine translations I posted earlier

[rapid grail]

speak for yourself first

[stark quiver]

[rapid grail]

[remote yarrow]

Give CN Datamine link I'm stupid

[viscid swift]

It's somewhere in here

Just search up my posts here