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but since you're new, see here for what high tier gold augment you need for your ships. Don't spend augment cores on purple augments yet https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules/
Tier list for augment modules, rating each unique module's effectiveness and how recommended it is to craft.
in particular, san diego
and warspite
i would skip Hood for now tbh if you haven't done it
i dont remember but before quitting i used to skip dailies, the fast battle thingy now is very convenient
i think that raid was added after skip dailies
already did for the quest unfortunately
so, the play is to just wait and have them dropping instead of crafting?
the play is to spend materials on high tier gold augments
and for blue/purple, it's cheaper to use an existing one rather than craft one from scratch
If you have extra augment exp stones, you can take a purple from +0 to +10. But save the augment core for san diego and warspite because they cost 15 each
cause like in this picture all these augments are purple no?
san diego's gold augment alone is worth dozens of purple augments in terms of improving your fleet
okay so, sandy and warspite augment, is it something you get it somewhere or is it craftable only?
so should i go for it?
yes, but
how did you get that much in 4 days
Pro gamer
rocks might've dropped from event milestone + rookie rewards
there are indeed 10 cores in handbook
also my sandy has terrible gear, obtaining gear remains the hardest part ngl.. i run researches in queue 24/7 but im still in homeless gear
is this better than purple single 127mm?
it is far better than single 127
i swear someone told me the opposite
okie ty
are those all equally viable loadouts?
top 2 are better
hi im new to the game is there anyone with a video to learn things to do and not at the beginning ?
/guide
check the samheart link
We dont have videos but the guide covers what u should and shouldnt do as a beginner

/guide
Guides to Azur Lane
If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564
Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:
- Newbie Tips
- Common Resource Guide
- Research Guide
and more!
If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma
Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:
- Chapter 14 and 15
- Challenge Mode
and more!
Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with
Who should I go for after anchorage? Skipped fdg cause I already have lion and biscuit2
Shouldn’t have skipped fdg
go for FdG anyways
cuz it never hurts to have more URs
Plus she still has her uses even if you have the top tier UR BBs
like for example being with those two for a OpSi BB boss comp or having BisZwei and Lion on boss fleets while FdG is on mobbing
Alright
getting fdg purely for mobbing in opsi sounds like a waste of time though, but im not that knowledgable
I kinda wanna get ägir next
Fdg isn’t limited to opsi mobbing
She has UR level damage and works well in their fleet of opsi bossing bb fleet
Heck, even just having more to work with for the coalition events
Just get both
The grind shouldn’t be too long anyways
but who to coin first?
the real grind is dev30 

My vanguard is pretty lacking but I'll get ägir after fdg then
😔
How far will I get with 112 ägir prints
well they said delay, not skip if I'm not wrong on that 
Is there an event next week?
/devbp
180(513)?
(total)
112 prints gets you to just over lvl 15
Ah alright
when triple CV mob exists it sorta is
Guys any event next week?
is she any good
Nah
I'll have to drop my beloved eugen when I get ägir 😔😔
no
which is just as well since we're getting PR8 next week
Ayee
and pr7 fs is like a month after?
yes
At ALM's discord they say brest is more useful than Agir, and is infact the best CB out there. Always thought she was severly lacking.
Are they crazy, or am I?
What's the best team fighting kawa meta?
there is one in the pinned messages
Nice. tqvm
Isn't agir more tanky than brest and also she can inflict AB?
It depends, Brest is going to be better in w15 for example
both of you are crazy I'd say
if I'm being honest I haven't used either in a while because we've gotten so many tanks with better utility than the CBs
but I don't think one is necessarily more useful than the other let alone to say outright one is better
I would pick Guam there myself
Brest was used there before Guam existed iirc
they all do different things though
in order for me to say one is outright better I'd have to be picking one over the others in a majority of cases which is
September JP anni Sakura UR, August EN anni retrofit UR(???)
What we getting a retrofit on anniversary? Thought it was augment or something
(afaik) there's no real set frequency for Unique augments
and yes we get a SR->UR retrofit for EN Anniv
we're too close to JP Anniv to get a UR event so that's the next best thing
Quick question, I just found this in Gear Lab, I haven't seen this gear before, Is it any good?
If so, which ship class usually would want it?
Please...
Don't start...
I'm just a small fan of Russians...
looks at dev.12 Nakhimov
It's quite recent
And very good, basically the best AA gun in the game
Mainline ships, but also good for vanguard
Is there a ship in this game that this gun wouldn't be good for?
Vanguard.. The ship? Or.. The class or both?
frontline ships
The type
~~No capital first letter
~~
Hmm... Hah
not counting those who can and will benefit from installing another weapon in the same slot
There are very few of those, I only recall Hindenburg
Seydlitz 
Well, I don't have any.
but I've seen Halford and Fritz Rumey
Both do not offer to shed their AA slots (actually, they do)
Is it better than this one? Or is it transitional with this?
It made 57mm not worth crafting
Ahem.
Excuse me, but where is Halford's seaplane?
Ah... I was hoarding a lot of these...
Broken currently 
57mm is still good but don't craft any more
Is the new AA also good for battleships? Or just for frontline ships?
.
Is a new UR retrofit guaranteed for EN anni?
But it seems it is our UR replacement, so we will see if they keep that up
There is also all ships from rondo event (excluding yorck and emden)
how to level up submarines fast besides using books?
Like in a streak?
As in tradition, like October becoming Tempesta. They now had 2 events (year before Royal Fortune was alongside another event), they could break it, they could go on with it, we all assume Tempesta though

Books, dorm, or using them in a lot of battles are your options.
I usually just stick them in the dorm, which isn't amazingly fast but at least isn't burning oil.
Also stick them in current event levels fast, at the cost of a lot of oil
That UR retro on EN anni has been going on consecutive years right?
If it is then it's likely a guaranteed no?
yeah it's been consecutive years for a grand total of 1 year
Well what's likely to be in the anni then?
The devs rarely give us information more than a week in advance, so it's really hard to predict what's coming up.
We'll almost certainly get a retrofit but whether it'll be a UR event who's to say
also let me give you an idea of what you're dealing with for the EN Anni
2022: Rerun of Intrepid's event
2023: A New Iron Blood Mini/Medium event
2024: A full scale new event with no UR
Free gems
Should be like 700 this year right
800
oh neat that's 40 dock slots
Also at what point does the price for dock expansions go up? like 1k?
holy conjecture
from u-37/u-81/u-96 who is flag?
for 14-4 is Jervis better in the mob fleet or boss fleet?
Mob fleet tank
That’s also a ring
Should be 2k
beginner question, how do people deal with food in the dorm, seem unreasonable to always keep food stocked. I assume people just pop some food in right before they head out to fight, or am i missing any reason to try to keep food in at all times?
I have 4 years of mail oil in the form of dorm curry
Hmm, just restock as frequently as you can, you still regen morale even if you are out of food
dorm exp buffs dont affect sorties
and idk you just get food over time a lot, can also buy it with oil
ah, then the food isn't quite as interesting as i thought. might as well just spend it in that case i guess
and medals, not worth it till you don't need anymore purple bulins and special core tho
2021: Microlayer Medley rerun (old rerun system, 2 weeks, +2 ships)
2022: Operation Convergence (Blucher)
2023: Fool's Event (Richelieu),
2024: Windborne Steel Wings (Indiana)
i dont even know how i got it but i got over 10k food items left with 1/2k food recovery
just use it :)
it was Clemenceau not Richelieu for 2023 but yeah
thought I was missing something
2022 was the start of the new lite rerun system, and the coming of the "1 new event per month" system...
(new event gets a bit of a weird tone when used for the collab reruns, like this month will)
you mean atelie rerun?
Random but what's the order of the URs to rerun. Don't need dates or anything just the order
pretty much the order they released
so cheeky isnt a cat anymore
also, no new PR revelated ? i'm curious about the 2 others, or is 1 ?
Yeah I just dont remember lol
Its probably 2 more to make 5. They haven't done just 4 right?
Unzen is next then Alsace > soyuz
still 2 more, they seem to be revealing a new one every 2 days at 12:00 AM EST so with any luck we'll know another one in less than 6 hours
arigathamx
and the final one on Monday
Good to know
and this time it seems they've coordinated so no revealing different ships between servers this time
Guam/Laffey II got lost somwhere?
i forgot they existed
Also first Soyuz, THEN Alsace/Mogador
does +13ing the ur aa gun do anything
(I have already done it this is just copium)
both are quite gud at AA, the HIT one is the best for BBs and CVLs cuz HIT stats, but still stands as AA Guns in fact, being gud dmg and quite fast
working in pretty much anything
better aa
+18% damage, +3% Operation Siren damage (capped at 20%)
You didn't list Marseilles, is that due to the "single ship" event? It would likely be rerun before Fool's Scales, right? 
yeah she's a single ship event
Been a long time since they done those, when was the last rerun even?
and it was released Aug 3rd while Indiana was Aug 15th
It was before Fool's event, not before Indiana's event
oh right lol
I think the last rerun for a single ship event was Princeton event June 16th 2022
At least that's what I could find in my records
Ah
that was not in my list at all 

Are Auxiliary Equipment the only ones that have stat increases other than the OPS Dmg buff or did I miss something on other equipments?
Guns can too, more specifically AA guns 

Hazemayer, STAAG, and UR Twin 76 give Hit, while something like Twin 134 gives FP. I do believe there's more instances but those are the more prominent ones 
I think they mean stat increases from +13
well if they'd like to clarify 
he answered it correctly, so its alr
to note though you do not use the Twin 134 for AA it is purely a stat stick and is terrible as an AA gun 
thanks, got decieved by that high AA stat before, not knowing how slow its cd is as well, unsure for the range though...
I have a question that I asked before but can’t remember. Is X-1 or X-4 that is good for farming XP? I need to level up my main fleet so I can beat world ten and hopefully start farming 11
There is an XP per oil chart by level in the pinned posts.
X-1 is mainly for better XP/oil efficency
X-4 is mainly for better gold/oil efficency
It goes over my head. I saw it in the pinned comment but I couldn’t make heads or tails of it
Thanks!
the ships used for opsi can also used for commision too without affecting opsi?
yes, they can
Hello, I’m new to al, where can I find guides for beginners
Hello, I just got back to game a few days ago.
Not sure if this is the place to ask but just wondering if they have any planned UR limited reruns this year, kinda sad seeing I missed some nice looking UR ships.
Also, seeing that we have a UR selector now after 400 pulls, I hope they expand the roster, cuz I have everyone but NJ already.
Great! Ty
why is 12-4 most recommended for grinding and not later stages e.g. w13? is it less consistent with lower levelled ships?
oil eff and easy of use
does w13 have a higher oil cap or smth
yes it costs more oil per run for less value essentially
granted this is all relative when talking about XP farming 
We have no concrete news of any planned UR Reruns, but here's the theoretical rerun order based off of release date
And yes, they will eventually add in more URs to the perament UR pity selection
/w15
use #bot-spam
oops
Thank you! I guess no Implacable for me anytime soon since she just got her rerun this year
yop
luckily it only takes ~1 year for a event to be archived compared to the ~2 years it takes for it to rerun
how do people approach tech farming? it's oil intensive enough just levelling the ships i need, can't imagine doing the same for the 20 or 30 other ships i need for rld tech
if you still need to level the ships you need for actual battle, then you don't level ships for tech
once i'm done with lion and alsace etc i'm thinking of going for some tech but idk whether to just keep chucking them into 12-4 or to just take it slow and level them during event grinding etc
if only event grinding, then what are you going to do when there's no event grinding?
if youre grinding with lion and alsace, doesnt that mean there are 4 other slots for tech botes?
Guaranteed success with this 2 step method to build a mob fleet for farming easy content!
- Put ships you need to level for usage in hard content, such as MLB URs or good ships
- Put ships who have good level 120 tech
there's no difference about 12-4 vs event
when will i able to put auto my op siren when playing?
is cv or bb rld tech more important
finish the story
both
Ohh i need to prio this red ones?
correct
once you finish story, you get to unlock the full operation siren experience
How can i heal my ships?
and how to get gold materials to upgrade lvl 13 equipments or materials needed for gear lab
press port in that screen and formation then repair all
alternatively, you go to storage and use the healing boxes
is it worth grinding 13-4 for souryuu and xp or should i just go to w3
why my unicorn and others cant repair?? only nj
what
uhh, i mean if your fleet is overpowered sure?
that might mean using some high level ships and losing xp
its also not lenient on what options you can bring, like 6 shitters
go farm 3-1 or something with 4 oil lol
or 3 oil if youre an odd fellow
what are the good stuff here
buy everything so the actually good stuff has a chance to rotate into the shop
why didn't you do repair all
i don't have a 4 oil fleet yet
not like 3-1 is hard or anything tho
who is santa c
smh
the othes didnt show
well, you can just not farm for souryuu yet
i use now the boxes i heled them now thank youu
Even if they don't show if you hit repair all all of your ships will be restored to full HP
why you didn't see them is probably because you had filters on
would this live 13-4 if I take it down to safe lol
For your mob fleet?
yeah
You need a healer at the minimum
is 13-4 that much harder than 12-4
Yes
hm
guess i could try doing 13-4h with a proper fleet and see if i get her during daily hard clearing
how do ppl get a ur gear from research that fast
get lucky
guess praying to rngjesus is important then
i never prayed
for i had inherent luck
picking the right researches are probably the most imporant realistically
hmm true
how much max ur prints u can get from a research
i have no idea tbh
fair
guess no one even look at how much prints they get
but youre lucky if you get more than 1
o
I think they also stop giving said PR/DR BPs if you max them either at Dev30/Fate Sim, unless you pick the random research one...
huh
u cant coin for it?
I think you need to use the BP first before the coins, but I might be wrong
The game physically wont let you use coins if you have their BPs
Note that this doesnt count the blank selector ones
oh so i cant coin again after coining it unless i used them all?
also whats the blank selector ones
lets say you want to work on Achorage and coin her
but you have like 25 anchorage blueprints
you must use all 25 of those blueprints before you can use coins instead
pretty much, so don't use those randomized PR/DR Bps unless you really need it or just for protocore change
damn
that hurts
looks like i gotta coin a certain amount then if i want to
like the name implies, they're blank blueprints that can be redeemed to become BPs for a ship (within a pre-determined range of seasons)
oh that one
as well as u havent used it yet?
some usually don't use them for possible protocores, so they usually grind at Research, literally use if needed or convert them...
oh
is there any way to quickly get the monthly cores?
which core?
specialized, data or proto?
grind grind grind alot with full fleets
you can also buy 3k Spec Core from the medal shop which wont count towards the monthly 5k limit
No oil😭
Help me please to have a good fleet for boss and mob fleet
where specifically?
Also next time post that stuff in a thread
op si zone clearing also gives a small amount. hidden zones give a little more
Ty
?
that's the first time I've heard of that
you get like 7? of the specialized core from the purple box that drops after you clear an explorable zonee
hidden ones give 20? or so
oh thought you meant oil lol
ah
I'm sorry but I'm a newbie lol
But I needed to know how to build a fleet or good or best fleet
- Say what chapter you need help with
- Thread is optional, it's just for your own benefit of getting help without too many interruptions
funny you say that, but threads have like 5 different people with 5 different opinions
in the end, not a single decent fleet is made
do i get my ships lv 100 for them to be usable
is jintsuuM oneshottable with a setup similar to this without Eldridge or aurora
I do have Plymouth but she's not d30 yet
severely lacking BB reload tech tho and don't have a second hvarcat so I'm coping with skyraider and no sync
hmmm, maybe? are they dying?
not dying just not enough dmg
what is this for
what's your gear look like? all +10?
you need to increase your damage by 60% lol
the evasion debuff is pretty important here; huge boost to your damage output cause of shit main fleet acc
+13 Mk7 +12 lion gun +12 skyraider
opsi i guess
Jintsuu meta has 1.42 million hp not 1.6
oh, Jintsuu KEK; brain auto-filled Kawa
Yes
I use lion, Alsace, fritz
Z52, aurora, eld
And it one shots
well, you can consider EXP carding Aurora if you want to one-shot
"without Eldridge or Aurora"
you don't have Trafalgar either?
don't have aurora yet and idk if I want to sink cubes into light pool to pull her
not lbed enough and skills are all lv1
ah, RIP
How are you supposed to tell what armor class sirens and arbiter are?
For the boss sirens, you can turn off fleet lock, then engage to get a preview screen that shows their armor class amongst other things.
You can back out from that screen without losing anything.
Do /sirenstats in #bot-spam
Tho for the most relevant ones (IE the Arbiters)
Hermit is heavy, Strength is medium, and Temperance is light

how shit is this
On paper it's better than Champagne gun against medium armor but it's worse than it against light and heavy so don't even bother
If you want an actually worthwhile SAP gun, Raffello gun is there
alr
temperence got turned into empress
Oh 💀
didnt someone here say you get one rest and regroup for no cost once a day in opsi?
its always 50 ap for me in blue cities? you're talking about the order below fleet deployment right?
wait i'm dumb, wrong one, fleet redeployment is the free one
I noticed that my fleet with Alsace and lion can hold 4 salvos - can Alsace hold 3 and lion only 1 or do each get 2
oh nvm I just read their limit breaks they both have 2
i forgot, do they add these to the proto shop the moment the new pr season starts?
No
LA-9 and the other gear from PR7 won't be added until like January or whenever the PR7 catch-up comes out

holy fuck wait this might actually work I can hold the first salvo and save it for when jintsuuM starts getting more vulnerable
ok ty
I vaguely recall seeing a loading screen tip somewhere that manually aimed BB guns deal more damage than auto - is this true
Yes but it's not worth it
assuming they both hit, the first volley of each salvo gets a +20% bonus on manual
Ah, so they couldn't resist introducing yet another KMS DR
ic
assuming the BB's main gun is 70% of her damage and you aim well, then you'd get like 5% more damage from the BB with manual
Yup lol
instant build, i like her VA
does a purple manjuu increase CV damage more than a catapult
no
its main purpose is for timing airstrikes
Research gun may be a BB gun good vs heavy
how do you know
because i work at manjuu
Anyone have a META build using Lion?
check pins
does anyone have a modern chapter 14 auto-clear guide?
/guide
Guides to Azur Lane
If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564
Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:
- Newbie Tips
- Common Resource Guide
- Research Guide
and more!
If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma
Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:
- Chapter 14 and 15
- Challenge Mode
and more!
Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with
check suchi's w14
tyty
jintsuuM doesn't have many planes right? if I've only got one rainbow twin 76 should I put it on my best BB for the extra hit or does it not matter
more hit in backline
unless you already have 100% hit rate
holy shit jintsuuM oneshot
last bit of damage I needed came from holding a second airstrike until 00:06
what is this, and how to remove it?
restart the game, visual glitch, probably from shipyard
That means she's getting close to expiration date
hag status
Hi
I want to build a mob fleet and boss fleet
(now I have good gears for all of them)
Splendid make a thread and we'll flock to you like tryhards to the next meta fight
Halo, how much new UR release per year? Im afraid my bulin cant MLB Trafalgar because of new UR. I saw 2 UR and 1 SR
Oh that's too much ships
Does MLB rerun ship like Bismarck and Yorktown 2 still good? Or just leave it be
Right now im focusing on traf because i saw ppl use it on meta kawakaze
if you mean zwei, she's still great
yk2 is still good too but has a lot of other competition, and stricter pairings
I assume the priority is below zwei, thanks 
yes way below
I made a thread
and now waiting for people who come and help me
can you answer the thread
need recommendations on 13-4h
run triple CV mob, i'd move sandy to boss, remove helena, flag alsace
only other usable CL I have is seattle
sure i guess, just chuck her in mob
I have restarted, and the boxes are still there sir
is taihou med or heavy
Should look on wiki
sounds like corrupted files then, maybe repair assets, so if that fixes it
oh sorry, that's my turbo game timer 😂😭🙏🙏
I never activated the turbo timer, so I don't know, I think it was a glitch in the game 😭😭🙏🙏
do campaign bosses follow the same armor type as their obtainable versions
They should
Retrofits change type tho sometimes so
btw does fritz want to run wyvern or another fighter here
quick question; does the pr8 release happen after this event ends?
both are fine but wyvern sounds nicer to me. why? idk
How can I know which gear is the best to put in my ships?
refer to this guide https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/
Okie dokie
I just want until some good player make a fleet and I copy and paste
Or I make one myself 

what are drop rates for elite ships in maps?
gph pro h4x life tip for gear guide:
- Go to https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/ and make your fleet
- Purposely give your fleet some questionable gear, like double AA radar on SanDiego
- Post it here.
- Wait for people to get mad and start lecturing you on what to use.
- Copy their fixes.
- ???
- Profit.
Nobody knows
Hmmmm
at least 0.01%
There're something I need to learn
Best way to build your ships' gear

Is double washing machine higher eva than washing machine+ beaver?
I don’t think you can run double rudders
yeah
but u cant stack rudders
next best combo is rudder + beaver; then rudder + crystal ice bomb (from ryza collab)
Ryza collab soon les go
pretty boring ngl, maybe the grind's a bit tiring
Oh another PvP aux
More fleet power xddd
double rudders like this?
They should add a dryer then you could have a washing machine + dryer combo
Poverty options?
did you read the notes too for CL? 
It depends if the CL can equip dd guns
Is the 2nd dd gun worth crafting?
like 90% of my ch11-12 gear was poverty 
it's very cheap and cost effective, very worth to craft as transitional upgrade
Same
Alright
Craving for Twin 40mm Bofos STAAG
Sexy bofors 🤤
Just spam researches you'll get staag and haze eventually
My lion has a sexy staag
We need to build the cult of staag
My lion has a twin 76
Ahahaha do they really get mad?
Gotta make em more mad
You gotta ragebait them
Nah i do ragebait and im dead meat
Is it true that Halford's skills are bugged or something?
Is Trafalgar any good? What is she best suited for?
trafalgar's really good i mean that 10% eva debuff is way too good
Better than mog or z52?
they do different things
all the rainbow shop dds offer something over the others that make them stand out enough
AA, tanking wise Z52 is kinda better
z52 doesn't have the eva debuff
ah so she’s specialized in debuffing then?
But they're roles wise very different
ye
How does she compare to Helena for the debuffing role?
helena's debuffing if procs right is the best still
Who do you have from the perma banner?
If you have no UR ships pick Shinano
Shinano
Shinanoo
so no H-39-CV once again ...
and one more BB ... why so much BBs and almost no CLs ...
where is cheeky to say about options for new UR Gear
Yeah, why do we get all these BBs when what we really need is a DR/UR SS or IX?
2nd wyvern or 2nd ur dd gun or a 1st rat aa gun for prio from gear lab?
I'd get the AA gun
only a small playerbase will play whats actually good. each their own
😭
Would it be better to run it if I can only +10 it for now? I have this 13 on lion
After some adjustment in my fleets' gears
I felt that way too, I want a UR sub or UR BC 🤷
The only shiny things in there were staag😭
I mean if you can afford it then why not but if you cant then it's just a +5 HIT
Tbf I don’t know how significant +5 hit in the grand scheme of things other than it’s +5 lol
It's considered just a min-max strategy so dw bout it
I’ll probs wait for that until I can +13 out of the box and get another wyvern for now ty
enty does how much % of lion dmg?
Cause they need more German ships , and the Hman's favorite class is battleships
Who's Hman?
What do I have to select to do the c1 farming method?
zoom in urself 😄
Thanks
I can do it in any zone right?
yes as long as all setting same it will loop till either u got units die/no ap/akashi shows up
Any of the ships in Core monthly worth picking up?
independence
I need UR crafting materials so bad
But I don't know where on the Opsi I need to grind
Grind opsi
Finish story, do c4+, sirens and strongholds
Arbiter as well if you can
Btw, Is Helena Meta worth to invest in?
gold (SR) meta ships are mostly decent
helena meta does provide fleettech CL +1 FP at lv120
purple (elite) meta ships however are purely collection / fleettech only
does a 2nd copy of ur ship have any uses gameplay wise if i already have that ship at max lmb?
outside of display skin/flex, nope
ty
Hi, got 2 questions:
- Is there some standard for how far should I be into the game relative to how long I've been playing? Or more simply, how long does it usually take to reach the end game?
- Is it possible to deal with end game stuff without fully min maxing?
1.not really. i've been playing AL for almost 3 years now but i'm too lazy to finish up w14-15 lol
(i have all the required ship and most gears)
2.yes, min/max isnt required for end game
-personally i'd say that min-maxing gears would definitely help
lategame can be reached in like a few months with optimization but it's not going to be fun because a lot of things like gear and tech is built up over time
And its real coz i did just that
it's possible to deal with lategame without absolutely minmaxing but the less you have the more RNG you have to deal with
That's good then, I just got a bit worried after getting decimated in my first abyssal attempt
actually you can heal and there are nearby enemies to clear off the debuff
yeah but I mean like after getting past ~50% I pretty much couldn't deal any more damage to it
with "average" minmaxing you can probably beat abyssals comfortably in about half a year to 9 months
anyone know when the next perm UR will be added?
Soon™
no one can estimate really
next on the list is Musashi check when Shimakaze was added last year
would it be worth it for me to use my free 400 UR on vanguard then? she’s the last perm one i need
are the others MLBd
for reference im about 4-5 months into the game, almost have all of opsi cleared (except for abyssal hard). but this is with min-maxing/meta gaming
i believe New Jersey is and Shinano is close to it, but the others arent
Thanks, should be a good benchmark
take dupes to finish them first
that way you save bulins for new URs
okie doke, thank you good sir
what does enchancing with coin means here
just to confirm if my thinking is wrong or not
coining to dev30 / fs5
well is the "times" print or
enhancing with coins is one of the reasons why i am always poor in this game
you will use up all prints (that you have on hand) for that research ship first before you can use coins
a
i use double bidders i'm not gonna bother to roll sub cats
it is recommended to only "coin" 10x a day btw, more will just be very expensive
oh well since i havent develop any ship yet
Is uss kansas good?
ask again when she is out
Alright
Priority is PR right? Just like Lion?
Lion isn’t a PR nor a DR
She isn't? Oh
PR = Priority i.e. gold (SR)
DR = Decisive i.e. rainbow (UR)
What's Lion's then?
UR she’s a gacha unit not a research unit
So PR and DR can't be pulled?
yep
Nope they are available all the time.
how long can anchorage withstand kawaM
I think from what renhex tested only laffeyii napoli and eldridge can tank the whole fight
Or at least enough to last for 4 salvos
I would guess anchorage dies sometime between 3rd and 4th salvo of your BBs
U can test her and see but if u dont have any of the 3 I mentioned anchorage is probably still your best bet to tank this fight
oh
Is the new pr weapon worth to farm or should I stick with la 9
They havent even revealed the new weapon yet
ma dude maybe wait till at least they show wep n ask lol
Oh I saw people talking about reload and thought It got released
mb
wt reload
we don't even know all the ships yet
Is she good and what does she do?
as her name says, she's terrible
Decently average regular DD
Roughly on par with the retrofitted starter DDs for a frame of reference
Other than that, she does give +1 FP DD Tech
can i have your opinion: will wyvern be better for mobbing or for boss fleet?
Now I'm planning to start doing it, I want to know your opinion.
kinda depends on the fleet
It can work fine in both (Especially since you'll use parallel TBs like Wyvern for both mobbing and bossing for basically everything besides OpSi bosses)
but usually mobbing has higher priority for it, especially in AA heavy content like W13 and W15 since Wyvern is one of the two TBs with the same interception capability as fighters
yes
Opsi fleets
only adds to ur retrofit collection
can someone explain what to do in OpSi? I just started it today
Can anyone give an example of a good mob fleet for 14-3? having trouble staying alive
First part of the Chapter 14 guide, with example fleets for auto and explanations of ship roles.
Full guide on ch14 + 15
this is an amazing guide thanks for sharing!
does someone have a tier list of the best ships ?
/tierlist
Ship Tier Lists
Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum
use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs
this one neds to be updated
always take tierlist with a grain of salt though, putting 6 high tier ships together doesn't always make it the best option.
yea they said they will update it later this week
thanks
They've been delayed quite a bit due to there being fewer evals than before and most of them are busy with other things IRL
and it'll probably take them 6 months for the next update
they killed cheeky before he could finish renaming himself
how do I check locked ships?
u-81 is locked, u-37 isn't
Does Centaur buff her own airstrike by 15% avi?
Anyone who the odds/chance to get Akagi/Kaga from 3:2?
0 because they don't drop from 3-2, they have a 0.75% chance each of dropping from the boss node of 3-4
Oh? But there aren't the boss in 3:4? Or am I tripping
you are tripping
Roger
So you fight then in 3:2 & 3:4? I'm gonna run a 3.4 now I feel like so confuzzled
I don't remember the 3-2 boss but they are the boss in 3-4
oh right, anyway, not that important
The boss you fight is irrelevant to the drops you get, 3-4 is the only place where akagi and kaga can be obtained
I agree. Just trying to farm the right boss for the drop. Wiki just says chapter 3 and a youtuber said its 3.2 for drop. So I just don't know 👉👈
you know the wiki lists all the ship drops for each stage right?
also stop watching AL youtubers
Wasn't a an ai, was a large channel, video from like 5 years ago. 😶
never said it was Ai, and I don't care how large their channel was, if they actually said they dropped from 3-2 then they're an idiot and not to be trusted because they can't even get very basic information right
My bad, AL... didn't realize you meant azur lane... I'm sowwie 🥺
Also shouldn't be farming for them unless you're a late game player and want the collection and tech
for research purposes, what was this large channel
oh this'll be fun
Lmao
Well I need to grind commander level at the moment, and I was told to just play to get my level up
The highest stage will be much better than grinding for kaga and akagi
Also I guess not big channel but video has a lot of views https://youtu.be/-IEveM4D0EA?si=UnSqoYTQpN9FNdFS
Took me long enough but here you go, my beginners guide for 2024, I hope you find it useful.
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki
Sections:
00:00 Intro & Overview of Sections
02:22 Useful Ships that aren't Gacha locked
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ship_Drops
33:04 Useful Gear Farming locations for early on
ht...
"beginner's guide 2024" and they told you to get kaga and akagi?
Do not trust a single word coming out of that channel
I don't they say get, but it's mentioned that it's available they do over the drops for each stage up to 7.
I already hate this not even 5 minutes on
it's too long and rambling for this to be in anyway a competent begginer's guide nor is it structured very well
Anyone mentioning kaga and akagi in a "beginner's guide" is a fraud
also a lot of this advice was dated even at the time of the video's release
I mean recocmending getting Roon Muse from the core data shop in 2024
When default roon is just better..
roon muse was relevant in guild/opsi in...2021
"Ayanami is very strong, one of the strongest torpedo ships in the game.....very good"
😭
I feel dumb for watching the video now....
coalition EX players know how infuriating her RNG is 
You're better off not watching any videos and just asking stuff here
it is not your fault, video with many views = good video supposedly
The only Al stuff I watch are lore videos
I assumed so.... but I was very wrong
do yourself a favor and read an actually good begginer's guide
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop
I think one thing they mentioned that was useful is the toolbox repair thingys....
An actual good tip.. no way
Unless those are no good either?
Yes tool boxes are very good and you'll be using them a lot
not everything he says is wrong but it's sprinkled inbetween a lot of ass advice
being a new player myself (not even played a week yet) and i've found this to be super helpful. though i do believe it mentions that portland and someone else is needed for some beginner quests. and i think that information might be dated
it is
It's like sprinkling salt and spices on a pile of poop
like, there's a lot nitpicking I could do but
Is indy Portland worth running at all?
here's one really good example of why the advice in the video is bad
"Indianapolis just makes the fleet very slow"
Sup gph
Portland yes, indianapolis no
he's right that you shouldn't use Indianapolis and not bother leveling Portland's best sister skill but his reason is completely wrong
you don't use Indianapolis because she's bad and doesn't make Portland all that much better
thank you for your service in watching the video 
Cheeky might do something to that ytber at this point 🙏🏻
I'm not even 5 minutes in yet
Aren't skills overall the biggest reason to pick one ship over another though?
no
One of the reasons
there's a multitude of factors
skills are one of them but base stats and what gear they can equip also matter quite a bit
hypothetically, there could be a ship with 99999 HP and 9999 FP but zero skills
Sounds fire ngl
Idk I'm digging to deep but the way of min maxing the fleet so skills synergize and then the timing of things and what kind of rounds their guns shoot and against which enemy etc etc etc it's like never ending?
I have watched almost every single Azur lane beginner guide video
None of them are good
And I'm no one where near that point... but I'm the kind of person that wants everything perfect and I feel like I'm gonna loose my mind before I get there lol
yeah don't
among other things, synergy does not always mean better
lets say for istance we have 2 ships with otherwise identical stats but one has 10 firepower stat and the other has 100
and lets say the irst ship gets her fire power stat buffed by 10% when sortied in the bypotehtical fleet we are building
you would still choose the 2nd ship becaus 100 Fire Power stat > 11 fire power stat
the best ships like Lion have synergy with everyone 🦁
10% damage for the whole fleet 📈
That's what this channel is used for, helping people understand the game or just helping people build setups.
Is this lad any good?
meh
Also idk who you even get them anymore but are atago/takeo good anymore?
cool DDs are URs and DDGs
I heard Trafalgar is a cool DD
takao with aug is fine
atago is meh
Don't have her 😔
Please tell me you have kazagumo already
they're in Medal shop, and they were below average. Now with augment they are above average perhaps. But above average isn't good in the grand scheme of lategame
Nope
Aug, meaning augment like the little thing in middle of gear screen?
Well that would've been a cool DD to get from medal shop instead 
Is it worth it spend all my resources to get the augment for prinz eugen?
No
No
no lol
Fast typing guys
Understood lol
/equip You can see the last link for what augments are good or important
Equipment Guides and Tier Lists
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🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
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🔹 Augment modules guide
use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs
Oh I thought you had DD this month, nvm then.
Avrora 😔
augment guide doesnt get credit 
Is Felix cool?
The paragraph at top of the augment guide was helpful on its own lol
Not really
shes like decent
😔
i think instead of asking for every single ship, you should check a tier list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=1370253760#gid=1370253760
Out of the two new PR 8 DR ships which do I need to prioritize first..?
BB likely
Is there somewhere I can see the abilities or have they even been leaked?
So I guess prinz just isn't very good
correct
Sadly no
no
we wont know anything until the night before the release
wait for thursday datamine as always 
if you already invested in her level 70 and Max limit break (MLB), then she happens to be better than portland. But that cost should be avoided by new players
I feel like I show my main fleet but I'm gonna get roasted...
same
OK, I can just see the new Netherlands ship need or Netherlands ship or like giving powers to Netherlands ship which is not really needed it for others and that’s not really epic Rasta of NL ships
we don't do that here
we do that tenderly
sometimes we do but that's usually paired with suggestions on how to improve the fleet as well
the main fleet looks fine
its actually, not that bad
this is a lot better than what we usually see
It's fine assuming you are working on uni retro
I've seen way worse
the vanguard is not
Also doesn't Maryland need flag position
(Planning on replacing taihou with Enterprise)
just move maryland to flag
no need for portland anyways
Move to flag?
flagship position so where taihou chan is
Gotcha, and just so I know why am I moving her there?
Doesn't the ship is middle take less damage?
her barrage is based on where she's positioned so if you put her in the flagship position her barrage would cover the screen, that goes for most battleships that aren't rainbow
and flagships take more dmg so it's mostly best to put your tankiest backliner in that position as well
That's for the Vanguard
Middle position backline is the flag position, and if the flagship dies, the whole fleet goes down with her
Also having a BB in flag besides being more bulky, it has equal coverage against suicide boats
While if it were at the top or bottom, it would struggle to reach suicide boats that are too far from it
Makes sense.... I've wondered why my battle has ended when I've lost like 1 ship.....
Battle end if all vanguard or flag die
or if all enemies die 
So tank in flagship for the back line and squishy ship in middle for vanguard!
Taihou has lower survivability compared to Maryland
Maryland is tanky so she should be flagship 😊
Yes
Actually she will take the most damage no matter where you put her. Since the other two are carriers, they are concealed and generally won't be targeted by arcing shells. Enemy BBs and CAs will target Maryland because shes the only one they can see
So the reason for Maryland flag is suicide boat defense and her barrage
Well that's more of a bonus you generally put BBs there bc of the mentioned suicide boat coverage and also for their skill barrages if they aren't centered
Also here is where I'm at for Unicorn retrofit. I've only seen it in pvp assuming it's because I haven't got one... when you do all the retrofit does say Unicorns name become - Unicorn Retrofit?
Airplanes choose a random main fleet ship to attack, independent of position
Once you finish the modernization node
Skip the top and bottom row for now, go rush to modernization and then do the top and bottom
Though you still need that AA tab
In 8 hours I'll have both of Unicorns skills at 10 as well.
What happens when you FULLY complete the OpSi story?
you monthly resets and new port shops
you unlock arbiter
The monthly update opens on Chapter 4.
Is it possible to win this without a max-level fleet?
you can go back to normal arbiter infinitely so yeah
You can do normal arbiter easily since dmg is saved even if you leave
Also just a random thing, the current event is so not new players friendly past easy and normal. I'm sure it's fun when you have maxed out multiple fleets tho
No it's a shit event
i use a total of 6 ships for hard mode tho
i used 18 but only 2 ships in each actually had gear equipped 
Is it possible to get gold and rainbow gear lab materials from them?
its gaurenteed for normal arbiter
Also why do you need so many freaking copies of the plans to craft a piece of gear.... kinda outrageous imo
bro does not know the research gear grind
Not really, you'll get the gear steadily
Not level 60 yet
i honestly dont get the hate for this event
its rather easy
It is easy but shit event
It super easy
59 almost 60... then I can finally do chapter 8 and opsi and a bunch of stuff 😊
I think he meant academy research and not opsi
Not sure... I assumed they meant this
probably means the only locked slot
Which is gear lab
I was right UwU
Well you should still be spamming researches
Hooray!
I won't have to spend several eternities getting equipment!
XD
you wish
I do whatever one is cheapest
Select pr7 and fill your queue up, you'll get some good gear steadily
/research
credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg
This should help you
I understand correctly that the best equipment from PR research (although, it is also important to get blueprints) is unique?
What?
Oml.... I didn't even know that little button was there.... I'm so blind dude
all research gear needs blueprints
No wonder I keep getting same things I had on pr1....
Ahem.
I'll share this thought separately.
As I understand it, the equipment, or most of it from PR research, is unique.
Is that so?
And secondly. Despite this, it is important to obtain ship blueprints.
what does unique mean
What do you meant by unique?
Do you mean unique as in you can't get it anywhere else? No
most of research gear is unique to its season, barring some exceptions
it depends on the season
this should help
(Also I had no idea there was a Saint Louis and St. Louis) until I grinded out the get Saint Louis and and couldn't equip the St. Louis skin I bought..... I swear my brain doesn't work in some ways
Mine doesn't work either
Is there a way to see all the different ships in the game, while in the game... I've been on some menu that was showing ships and a tab let me see how to unlock them before...
Collection
Where do I find collection?
Do you guys think with your brain?
Also this- I did just read the the little info thing so these buffs only apply to ships after level 120, but to all ships or? Is this something I need to worry about essentially?
every ship thats the same type
class
The ship does need to be either MLB or lvl 100 to get the buff, but it's not something to worry about until you've raised every useful ship you have.
Is it something I need to think about or is just by collecting and leveling ships?
i never look into that tab
most of the ships that give good stats are really bad so
you kinda need to look them up to get real benefit, but it isnt worth doing before you have enough good ships maxed first
So for the two ships in the screenshot they both need to be max limit break to get the tiny buff?
Understood. End game stuff.
To get the cumulative buffs from every 120'd ship that gives a +CV buff.
those arent CVLs tho
Wait, Saratoga isn't? You saw nothing then.
Can I have your opinion?
Can Nakhimov be without Dev lvl, weaker than Unicorn, without retrofit, but with MLB?
mlb =max dev level
Do I bother doing anything with U556 META or Greenville META?
no
Well, I know this fact.
I compare non LB UR ship with Elite, but MLB.
so you are asking if low dev level nahk is weaker than non retro mlb uni
yes she is worse
yes.
Basically every research ship is strongly recommended to get to D30 asap since it's the equivalent to MLB
As for your comparison with Unicorn, that is fundamentally a flawed comparison since they do different things
Now about cats Meowofficers... important? They seem really complex in their own right to me at least
i barely ever use cats
good cats are good
If you don't care to min max that shit, get two gold ones to D30 in your OpSi mob for the cat nodes
Cat nodes.... that sounds interesting
if you have the pirate cats use those
I still think that due to... THREE planes at dev lvl 0, almost any MLB carrier has more damage potential.
my dude, it takes at max 4 months to get a DR to dev 30 if you hunker down and do research properly
forget about trying to use Nhakimov pre dev 30 and just hunker down on the grind
PR8 is CB, CL, 2x BB so far, right?
Iirc the dutch DR was CA
But yee that's the lineup so far

is there a team build guide for specific characters sorry if it's on the pinned messages but i couldn't seem to find it i need smth to build a team for admiral zenker and want to know if the other super rare ones i got are usable with her
You don't build fleets around ships, you build fleets around content
Occasionally some ships do require specific synergy but that's relatively few and far between
oh what should I do
You can give this a read
https://azurlaneecgc.com/fleetbuilding/
Give this a read too if you haven't already
https://azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/
thank you !!
How should I improve my bossing fleet for opsi? Really struggling to clear strongholds and abyssal
better gear, higher adapts, more levels on your ships among others
Higher level, better gear, idk better ships, more adaptability, etc
I need to be able to clear said stages for better gear, working on leveling ya but wdym higher adapts?
is helena even synced to anyone
Wdym Synced?
offensive, defensive and tactical adaptability
Ah
Wtf 200 in 6 days, did you buy?
yes
ew oil logger buyer
I don't buy the oil logger
i bought all adapts and on 140 average
hmm maybe its the 27 zones
you think
Y not, oil logger give you better goodies
No
it doesn't all it does is allow you to use autosearch to clear the explorables
and frontload you with some of the rewards you get from clearing them
what if i clear all the zones and then buy it
do i get +40 blubox
I have 35 avg adapt with 3400 distance
Yeah, but you lose a lot by that point
Just buy it as soon as the new month came
You get to use all of the logger's feature, especially if you are trying to knock out center boss within 10 mins of the new month
why u trying to speedrun harb
Still failed
wasn't really trying to be honest
buying just to buy 
how do i bypass the 20s shield
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop
read that
also limit break you ships
Have 82 CV rld and beacon saiun hvar
https://mrlar.dev/s/ec8a8bae7cedaa31c8f7c255b2074628771458c0
this is what i have cooked up
I just used my Kawakaze META fleet
does it one strike
Swap Dunkerque and Long Island, as well as Portland and Laffey.
nah but who cares
me
it still one shots just fine
i have literally nothing better to do tbh
clearing OpSi, tech farming, etc
To which ones?
This flleet seems charred. Why using 1 CV 2 BB with CV cats. Much damage loss
i can replace lion with anyone im thinking fritz?
Swap their positions. Not with other ships
did you know........ shipgirls in the middle of a formation take less damage then girls at the sides
Get adapt and try
Will this be good
switch laffey and portland positions
and switch long island and dunk positions
limit break your ships
whats best way to get dark blue cog awk chips
or is it just a daily wait thing
Now I need help with 3-3
cheeky, Mecklen its a H-39 ?
get some levels and limit breaks and youll be good
u can start by reading what we wrote
arrays come mostly from the daily raid
u will only need them once u have to fight hard bosses and high level campaign
iirc no it's an H class hull but I don't know about an H-39 specifcially
here's what I could find "H-class inspired design with quadruple 30.5 cm turrets, with Hannover's secondary arrangement, albeit short a couple turrets to mount torpedoes."
was just running low after cog aw+ my implap, just wanted to know the sources
so tons of secondaries, with smaller but more guns ... ok lets see how they will do on AL, cuz one more BB ... i doubt that will be something that will broke meta
meckburg
dinkleburg?
hi! im a new player, and am following this guide (https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/progression/pushcampaign) and just managed to reach Chapter 9 and clear the first stage for the first time (Manual Play) but am kinda lost on what to do now, since im not really strong enough to Auto Farm 9-1 for EXP and Coins. Could someone help me out and give me some pointers on what I should be doing ^^ would appreciate it a lot, I followed the Starter Fleet from this guide so this is what my fleet looks like atm.
you could start by getting 9-1 down to safe and stat leveling up a 2nd fleet
yeah thats what Ive been trying however 9-1 is not really easily farmable atm, not even on manual barely managed to clear it. hence why im looking for advice :o
Problem is im a bit afraid of farming before chapter 9, since oil cap isnt a thing and am worried of just wasting my oil
is it on safe yes or no?
most likely u have gearing issues because the fleet looks alright
missing uni retro which is a massive step
yeah I just got Portland Retro'd and am now working towards Uni Retro
wdym with safe? sorry ^^
is the threat level of 9-1 on safe
picked another ships with the same hull as uni that needs retro too
might be not ideal
Yeah I think so?
no, it says lethal still
oh you mean that haha yeah no it isnt...
as I said, get it down to safe first then try farming
how do I get it down, by Gearing more and leveling up higher right ?
just clear the stage a few more times, tap on the threat level and it'll tell you how many more times till it's on safe
With each threat level reduction, the enemy ships will suffer a debuff, making it easier and easier to clear. By safe, you should be able to auto with the fleet that cleared it.
ah okay, that makes sense. Im gonna try and get through it on manual play a bit more and then try again ^^

Ok so I’m trying to unlock Roon and my last step is getting 2,000,000 exp with Iron Blood ships. What is my easiest path to doing that? This is all the iron blood ships I have currently
Cause I can’t beat nay of the higher levels I have to grind exp. And they aren’t strong enough to survive being carried through 9-1 by my main fleet
PS I also have a lot of purple Bulins so if I need to limit break some of these ships to give them a better shot at survival I can do so
do you have enough exp packs to make them mlb
I would use whoever you used to get the 1m exp mission ; ideally you would have a full iron blood vanguard and just spam chapter 12 (?)
But there’s really no rush, because you need to not only get roon but also get her dev30 + her augment that can be really resource heavy for players without an efficient gold farm
It's vanguard only btw, so just keep using Z23 to farm whatever you were farming and get it passively. If possible don't use non mlb ships
is hakuryuu better for mobbing or bossing?
shes good for both
hello, can someone help my with my fleet, I can't clear the boss node in 13-3H
what other URs do you have?
no sandy?
I have sandy, and she is on mob fleet
I have pretty much all the UR beside Guam, Vanguard and Unzen
whats your boss fleet?
the one I sent is the boss fleet
mob fleet is raffy - uni - aquilla / z52 - sandy - shimanto
I do not.
swap sandy and juneau
I also need to finish the 1 mil exp mission... these are all the iron blood ships i have currently. none of them are strong enough for chapter 9 i was hoping you guys might have an idea of what i can do with this
that mob fleet should have more than enough AA if well equipped so sandy better in boss since taihou really hurts
no laffey2 i assume?
13-3 is relatively easy, you only really have to worry about taihou
oh i misread the stage, this boss fleet should work fine scepter on yk2
BBC 
@atomic abyss sup

so for iron blood what do i do?
deussctland and otto probably
forget about grinding Roon's CDC right now and push to W12 first
any advice on doing that? my main team wasnt strong enough to even beat 10-1
well what are you using
ok from left to right main first.
Unicorn, Bismarck Zwei, Enterprise.
Vanguard left to right
Portland, Z23, Helena.
why aren't you using a 2nd fleet
single fleet with 3 star bisz as the only BB 
I dont really have a second fleet set up yet.


