gameplay-help

[cobalt robin]

You should get them every month

[robust nymph]

are the cores that useful? is it for ur bulin or something else?

[cobalt robin]

Ur bullins yes

[cobalt robin]

Also some other retrofitting items like sandy's

[robust nymph]

yea i got sandys this morning, is shinano worth maxlbing or is there any other easily obtainable ur i should maybe wait for?

[cobalt robin]

Perma urs aren't worth using ur bullins on unless you have a copious amounts of them

[muted crescent]

from what I hear, Unzen is due to have a rerun soon so save it for her ig

[cobalt robin]

Don't buy the bullins unless you can afford to buy 4 for MLB otherwise it's wasted dock space

[muted crescent]

I alr fucked up spending 18 wisdom cubes on this event for no reason yday, don't be like me 😭

[ivory pawn]

It's not soon at all, and will be after a new UR is released.

[cobalt robin]

That's September right?

[robust nymph]

but how do you get shinano copies?

[muted crescent]

either pull them by chance or grind UR perma const

[cobalt robin]

Banner, from your daily 1 pull. So it'll take 400 days lmao

[ivory pawn]

It won't take 400 days, but it will take a long while.

[muted crescent]

I mean it depends on what you spend your pulls

[cobalt robin]

I mean if you have to pity for the ur

[sweet delta]

It won't take 400 days

[ivory pawn]

That assumes you never pull any non-UR event banners. Including skipping the upcoming Atelier collab.

[muted crescent]

is the Atelier collab worth skipping? anything good there?

[sweet delta]

So many non UR banners, especially reruns that give you 30+ free builds worth 60+ points

[robust nymph]

also i was wondering, can you lose tech points? if i retire a ship that is

[cobalt robin]

I'm just saying, if you were to do 1 pull daily it could take that long

[muted crescent]

you don't

[cobalt robin]

I got a ur at 40

[ivory pawn]

It could, yes. And I said it probably won't.

[cobalt robin]

Rng is a bitch

[muted crescent]

yeah if you're doing light construction you're not getting any

[cobalt robin]

Never mentioned light

[muted crescent]

I guess it must be because I am a beginner, cuz I just do it for the 300 free coins

[cobalt robin]

You can do it on light

[muted crescent]

from what I hear ppl tell me I should save my cubes up until I have 1000

[cobalt robin]

I just don't

[wind hazel]

that's a bit extreme

[muted crescent]

I have 5. 😭

[cobalt robin]

You should always stay above 400 so you can get event ur

Idk abt 1000+

[cobalt robin]

I'm not far ahead with 90

[robust nymph]

also ngl im doing a lot of opsi but i feel like im getting so useless rewards

[cobalt robin]

Not useless

[muted crescent]

at least you can play OpSi

I can't even do OpSi cuz I'm 1 level away with 0 oil

[cobalt robin]

Unless it's healing items kekw

[ivory pawn]

The bulk of the rewards are kinda useless, but you gotta get those useless rewards to be able to get the good rewards you do want.

[cobalt robin]

The mats, ap boxes, cords are all very useful

[robust nymph]

like this currency cant be spent for anything nice?

[muted crescent]

how many of these should I keep?

[tropic tusk]

0

[cobalt robin]

Ports and akashi

She sells gold so boxes quite often

[muted crescent]

is it that useless?

[cobalt robin]

Also these coins will be more useful next month when you unlock the better port shops

[sweet delta]

It's good as a leaderboard padder, not for battle

[robust nymph]

im not sure what you mean

[cobalt robin]

You will sometimes see akashi in hidden zones, she is like a vendor

And by ports u mean port shop

[ivory pawn]

There's a shop at the blue ports you can spend them in.
Sometimes Akashi shows up on a map, and you can buy some stuff from her. Mostly just AP boxes tho, and Special Tokens if you want.

[cobalt robin]

Go to port and click resupply

[robust nymph]

oh yeah i know about the resupply shop, i didnt know about akashi appearing ive never seen her

[cobalt robin]

You'll se her eventuelly

[robust nymph]

green was what?

[cobalt robin]

Daily quests

[soft raft]

opsi daily mission

[sweet delta]

Siren research facility?

[cobalt robin]

[robust nymph]

doing 10 minutes of the puzzle to find the right way just to get +0 xp is really the opsi experience

[cobalt robin]

It gets better

[ivory pawn]

Or rather, after you do those you never have to do them again.

[cobalt robin]

already done with opsi and now gotta wait a full month 😔😔

[wind oxide]

Strongholds at every weekly reset

[hushed sorrel]

there are puzzle in azur lane?

[sweet delta]

The whole game is a puzzle

[muted crescent]

it's been 3 days wth bro 😭

[cobalt robin]

Felt like 3 weeks

[wind oxide]

Blue zones and first day's strongholds can be cleared within 3 days if you spend enough time

[cobalt robin]

I was mostly auto clearing at work

[prisma mantle]

is there still more ur reruns coming? and any knows who are they

[hushed sorrel]

always around 2 years after the actual lunch

so yes we will have many ur reruns in the future

[ripe pumice]

The wall of shame lmao

[prisma mantle]

is it guam? last time i played is till like guam UR, thats after bisko2 i think

[ivory pawn]

Next should be Unzen.

[wind oxide]

A rerun in September that'd be unzen

[prisma mantle]

oh i forgot about unzen

[hushed sorrel]

guam should be around december

[prisma mantle]

thanks a lot

when do they stop rerunning again and be put in banners?

[hushed sorrel]

we dont know that. there is only a single rerun for each char but we dont know what happens after.

[stark quiver]

You are not done with opsi
If you think you are, then you are missing out on a lot of resources

[ivory pawn]

About a year after the rerun they’re usually archived and put into perma banners.

[cobalt robin]

I'm done with strongholds, c3+ zones, strong siren enemies and normal arbiter (can't do hard) and I've also secured all zones

C2 left which I'm doing with my daily ap since I have more boxes left

But I'm mostly done

Only missing the meta stuff from ports that's it

[stark quiver]

Those who know more strongholds spawn
Ana dailies as well which give more ap and coords

[cobalt robin]

Well if they spawn ofc I'm gonna do them

But for now I am done

[novel solstice]

You should get a stronghold spawn every Monday, in addition to the daily missions that are usually worth doing.

[viscid swift]

it's a daily grind that doesn't finish until the end of the month and then starts right over again

[proper cypress]

as a new player what events/ships coming up should we really look for so save up for?

[soft raft]

URs

[viscid swift]

well the JP Anni in September, and if you're into it the Atelier Ryza collab is probably rerunning later this month

[cobalt robin]

Doesn't take long but yes I'm still gonna do dailies

[cobalt robin]

As I mentioned I am spending my daily ap

[soft raft]

And if you're wodering if we have some foresight for future banners like with some Gacha games like FGO and Arknights, no we dont

JP, CN, and EN are all caught up

iirc TW and KR are still a bit behind but they're getting closer to catching up

[cobalt robin]

That's too soon 😔😔

[rapid grail]

KR iirc was only a week or two behind on events. This was mostly due to translations

This was from 2022/23 anyways

Before twitch pulled out of SK i think. Haven't seen korean AL streamers afterwards

[proper cypress]

no i was just curious what ships are best to look out for coming soon

[stark quiver]

September

[soft raft]

Besides URs, ig Ryza's a decent SR DPS CL if you manage to get all of her exclusive gear when the Ryza collab rerun happens

[sweet delta]

Does ryza have a unique augment?

[soft raft]

yeah

[sweet delta]

First collab retrofit incoming?

[rapid grail]

from guaranteed events? JP Anni on September and the UR rerun afterwards

EN anni on August? Maybe. Not too sure if they're going to release another SR -> UR retrofit like Eldridge last year iirc

Other than that, there are other event reruns (?, 🔮 ) & perma botes you can get.

[inland shoal]

Yk if you really wanna max your OpSi resources and have too much time there's this technique called c1 farming

[cobalt robin]

Like I said no ap

Why c1 farming tho

[inland shoal]

Cuz it's AP positive

[cobalt robin]

do you get more ap than you spend?

[inland shoal]

Yes

[boreal wagon]

thatd be what ap positive means

[cobalt robin]

Might do it tomorrow then

[inland shoal]

That's what AP positive means
It's a bit random though

[cobalt robin]

Rng will fuck me as usual

Eh might as well try

[boreal wagon]

do you even know how it works

[cobalt robin]

Just go into a c1 zone, do objective, get loot and leave?

[hushed sorrel]

thats called bad luck but you will see it will be good luck this time

[viscid swift]

no, repeatedly farm C1

[boreal wagon]

you repeat a non hidden c1 zone and stop for akashi and buy AP boxes from her

[inland shoal]

Strategic search c1, stop on merchant, buy AP boxes from merchant

[boreal wagon]

it takes somewhat of an investment of initial AP

[stark quiver]

I went triple negative on c1

[cobalt robin]

Alright

[cobalt robin]

good thing I have none

[inland shoal]

But yeah it is rng, you can get no/bad akashis and lose out for a while, but on average it is positive

[boreal wagon]

the price you pay is also time

[cobalt robin]

I have time

[desert onyx]

I thought all these years that strongholds aren't worth spending ap on...

[cobalt robin]

Just no ap

Also no oil, no gold, low on plates I'm poor in everything

[stark quiver]

I would not recommend speed clearing opsi the start of the month
Because you’ll end out with no AP boxes for the next days and only rely on passive ap, which isn’t enough for a bad roll in dailies

[cobalt robin]

I needed my first wyvern okay?

😔😔

[hushed sorrel]

not okay. atleast the "okay?" sounds weird

[cobalt robin]

It's okay cause I'm happy

Although I'm poor I'm happy

well I have some gold and oil in mail but don't wanna touch it

[nova crane]

i have too many elites and they are taking up dock space, who should i 120 and mlb and who should i just retire

they will disappear from my dock

[stark quiver]

I personally wouldn’t retire any of them
Do you have any gems?

[nova crane]

no

[desert onyx]

[nova crane]

f2p broke lol, spent the free ones on skins lwokey

[hushed sorrel]

first dont retire chars that are hard to regain such as the children

[nova crane]

some are less priority i might wanna retire

[nova crane]

ye, i wont retire misc, children and maybe event ones

[hushed sorrel]

look at the map you usually run. if that map drops a elite you could scrap them.

[nova crane]

ok

is it worth 120 them just for tech points then retiring them after

[stark quiver]

The children characters are pretty useless so they’re scrappable

[nova crane]

kinda hard to get

[stark quiver]

Hipper muse does nothing so that’s one

[cobalt robin]

Noo they're smol children

[desert onyx]

120 ones with useful fleet tech first

[eager mulch]

[desert onyx]

And Uni/Helena for usage

[stark quiver]

You might get them back when pulling in the future

[hushed sorrel]

i am not a expert with tech points myself. i cannot answer that

[nova crane]

ok

[eager mulch]

id rather keep my amagi-chan than retire and have to get her back

[stark quiver]

Baltimore muse also useless

[nova crane]

right imma just delete the muses

[hushed sorrel]

if you have only little amounts of coins you could also scrap the elite bulins. you get atleast 15 each month most likely many more

[nova crane]

they dont gvie tech points do they

[stark quiver]

Don’t scrap purple bulin

[nova crane]

imma just mlb and delete some elites 120 takes a hell long of time

[hushed sorrel]

in a emergy situation with little dock space? i would

[stark quiver]

There are other ships you can scrap

[eternal basalt]

I have no purple to mlb... all bulin get scrapped

[stark quiver]

Don’t scrap random ships with good tech
Just scrap children and muse ships

[desert onyx]

You can press on the ship screen Archive -> Access to see ingame where the ship is obtainable. Anything from requisition/construction/merit/guild shop you can get again eventually if needed.

[hushed sorrel]

far better is just increase dock space xD look if you are missing a gem reward

some ships need some * for collections

[stark quiver]

Muse and children ships give no bonuses

[eager mulch]

bonus to my heart

[robust jasper]

Quick question, can I improve my fleet with a MLB lvl 111 lion or a MLB lvl 107 traf?

[barren kettle]

new player here, just started out yesterday and wondering if it's worthwhile holding onto the cubes, been hoarding them so far and only really spent what i've needed to complete daily missions and the like. but don't know if it'd be a better idea to spend them to try to get some nice new ships instead.

[viscid swift]

save them for UR events mainly, outside of that stick to one light build a day

[barren kettle]

UR events? i see that there's one time limited event going on atm, that is not one of them?

[robust jasper]

Mope

Last one was the biz zwei ur event though

[viscid swift]

also might wanna give this a read
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop

[robust nymph]

im stuck what am i supposed to do? as soon as i move it gets me back to this position

[undone plover]

usually there is 4 new UR events per year
February
May
September
December
between them there is usually a UR event rerun as well
mostly u want to pull these events and have 400 cubes saved (~300 for reruns) to make sure u can pity in the worst case scenario

[barren kettle]

oh this is perfect, many thanks!

[barren kettle]

dang, 400 sounds like a lot O.O. thanks for the run down 🙂

[cobalt robin]

Everytime you move the red tiles move, don't touch the red tiles, spots behind cover are safe.

[undone plover]

it sounds a lot but cube income is ~200-250 per month as well
and u dont go to 400 every event
actually u are more likely to not need 400 cubes
and reruns come with free build tickets
overall the income is good
just make sure u manage cubes well
u can even pull this event if u want but I wouldnt use all my cubes for it
Just do ~3 builds a day if u really like the ships
if u are low on cubes then u might want to save for another event
I think this banner has a very good submarine but it is not crucial and better save for august/september

[strange path]

If you just stick to a safe area and just move back and forth enough times you can bypass the puzzle by fighting a fleet, it’ll ask if u want help^

[barren kettle]

well, got 80 cubes so far so might try just saving up for the next event and see if i get to grips with the cube economy

[robust nymph]

jesus thank you i hate this so much

[undone plover]

sure that sounds solid
read the link cheeky gave u and be sure to come back to ask questions if u need to

[barren kettle]

will do!

[knotty dome]

would this outperform 533mm improved quad mag / normal gold quad mag against light on auto?

[cobalt rapids]

iqm no normal yes

[barren kettle]

are the meta ships worth it early game? looking to replace a battleship in my current fleet and just realized i've got enough crystal fragments to buy one from the meta shop

[stark quiver]

No

They’re either worse or equal to accessible options, they’re mostly a late game tech investment

[cobalt robin]

me happy with my gloM

[barren kettle]

yeah, i'm just hesitating on investing in my rare battleship, and haven't come across any higher rarity yet. i assume there might be one available in the guild shop once it resets tomorrow as well though

[stark quiver]

Oh right the gold meta ships are kewl, glorious meta is top end gold cv
Most golds are either decent/good
purples are just for tech

[split gazelle]

It's totally fine to invest in Pennsylvenia, you will use her for a while until you have like hood/nelson retro available, or some other improvement BB.

She also gives good fleet tech at 120 so it's not a waste at all

(fleet tech is late game stuff but my point still stands)

[barren kettle]

so it's not worthwhile grabbing maryland from the guild shop to replace her?

[split gazelle]

yesn't, I would go for nelson retro instead which is better than maryland. you can cruise through stages with just pennsylvenia

[sweet delta]

Nelson isn't better than maryland

[split gazelle]

[barren kettle]

pennsylvania has been solid so far, just only none epic+ ship left in the fleet ;P

(maryland was the first epic battleship i found in the guild shop, hence why i mentioned her)
but might be more interested in arizona, some extra healing doesn't seem bad

[sweet delta]

Maryland is definitely better than Nelson for bossing. For mobbing, idk but Maryland will not be worse by much if she is indeed worse. Also doesn't require the nelson pennant of victory

Arizona is bad

[split gazelle]

I blame Riceist jokes aside, you'd suggest maryland over nelson for beginners cause shes easier to obtain then?

[ashen saffron]

which one is better top or bottom ? ( i am new soo idk)

[fleet cosmos]

does it make a difference if I farm 1-2 Hardmode for my Portland Retrofit or if I farm for example 5-2. Like in terms of item quantity?

[barren kettle]

kinda just looking through the guild shop and seeing what's available, and the number of battleships is kinda low, lower still if arizona isn't a decent option ;P

[sweet delta]

The only chance nelson has is her "100%" big seven over Maryland's 70% for mobbing. Maryland will remain useful for longer when the "starter" BB inevitably gets shunted as a filler onto a BB opsi fleet, and she also works towards rushing Anchorage tech

[sweet delta]

Idk what level your Pennsylvania is but it may not be worth switching now if she's high level

[sweet delta]

If you're new, you should be not using submarines much. Just clear the level 65 weekly raid, which is doable with a level 70 purple sub who doesn't eat gold bulins

[ashen saffron]

oh k

[barren kettle]

pennsyl is level 53 so far

[sweet delta]

Yes, because chapter 1 doesn't drop gold rarity retro blueprints. And there may or may not be data that suggests higher chapters have slightly higher chances of gold bps. In any case, you get more core data from higher chapters so that's what you should do

[sweet delta]

Would just keep with penn. Because the nelson or Maryland do require retrofits to be better than Pennsylvania, and you need to retro unicorn and Portland before them

[barren kettle]

i do have unicorn, but not portland?

[slim dawn]

what's better the french UR AA or american UR AA

[slim dawn]

prio unicorn she's so good, im still using her at 15-4

[slim dawn]

because of hit rate bonus?

[sweet delta]

Guild shop. Unless you somehow have a better tank that's not eugen already

[barren kettle]

running indianapolis as my tank, been working really well so far

[sweet delta]

Portland is strictly better than Indianapolis

[barren kettle]

unicorn has been amazing, so happy in reading the guide that she's recommended to focus first 🙂

[slim dawn]

Unicorn is so strong i have to restrict her planes because she steals mvp while exp grinding lmao

[robust jasper]

If I have NJ, vanguard and Musashi as the backline of my bb opsi fleet should I replace NJ and a vanguard with lion and trafalgar respectively?

[sweet delta]

If everyone is MLB , then yes

And leveled

[robust jasper]

Even if lions bout 12 levels lower than NJ?

[split gazelle]

just uh keep in mind traf is frontline

[sweet delta]

12 levels I would say lion is better

[slim dawn]

Why even use Lion when you have Alsace?

[sweet delta]

They asked about replacing "a vanguard", not "vanguard" so I think they know

[robust jasper]

Unless there's a better config with this

[slim dawn]

sorry this is for myself

[sweet delta]

Because Lion is better in general?

[split gazelle]

you're right my bad.

[sweet delta]

Or why not just use both Lion and Alsace

[slim dawn]

like how or why?

[paper walrus]

is this here because there are no better alternatives?

[slim dawn]

well

[robust jasper]

Alsace isn't mlb though.....

She is 2 stars away

[sweet delta]

Just straight up big damage assuming the battle is 80 seconds or longer

[slim dawn]

sorry it was for me

[robust jasper]

Ah

[slim dawn]

oh ok

[robust jasper]

Which vanguard do I replace with traf?

[sweet delta]

Idk, but gun DD cats aren't useful at all

Torp DD cats aren't useful for most players either, but gun DD cats really have no use

[paper walrus]

ok thanks 🙏

[sweet delta]

You can try Traf replace Unzen, Unzen replace Guam and switch positions with Eldridge, Guam replace Algerie

[strange path]

Are only the UR gearlab AA guns worth making?

[robust jasper]

Smol issue, I already replaced algerie with z52, mlb

[sweet delta]

Kick anchorage then

[robust jasper]

So traf at lvl 107 replaces ancorage?

[sweet delta]

If you're on a tight budget for chapter 13 or 15, then maybe one or two sextuple bofors

[sweet delta]

No, she replaces Unzen if level 120+. Guam or z52 or laffii can replace Anchorage

Or Unzen replaces anchorage also works

[robust jasper]

Gonna power level traf before replacing unzen with her, and replacing anchorage with unzen

[strange path]

This is my first gear lab craft, is there a preferred order to items i should be crafting?

[stark quiver]

Wyvern

[robust nymph]

i pressed "no" on the help during opsi and i literally cant do this puzzle i keep resetting if i close and reopen the game will i get the help prompt again?

anywhere i go from here it just kills me

[ionic edge]

for TB, if i don't get level 7 affection does it affect if i get the ending i want or no

[vale spindle]

Try clicking scan and seeing what happens

U can move onto the matrix square btw

[robust nymph]

i figured now it goes clockwise everytime but this is so annoying i stg

thank god i did it

[undone plover]

does this mean in coalition mode and that all fleets cant have the hull?

[gaunt cedar]

yes and im pretty sure yes

[stark quiver]

Correct

[eager mulch]

[glad lark]

Which one should I focus on limit breaking next ?

[soft raft]

Finish York2 > Implacable > Raffaello > UvH
or finish York2 and wait to see what comes out for JP Anniv in September

[sweet delta]

I would pick implacable over Yorkii especially with no nakhi soyuz in sight

[vagrant dome]

if i have Main 1 - Musashi, Unicorn and Volga, then Main 2 - Zenker, dead master and Chitose. Who should i replace with Shinano?

[slender turtle]

If the next urs i could mlb are between fritz and traff, who’s probably a better priority?

Only other UR i have is yk2

That needs to be mlb

[viscid swift]

Chitose is the weakest by far but can you even max limit break Shinano

[viscid swift]

if you're lacking HVARs and La-9s for CVs probably Trafalgar

[vagrant dome]

not yet ig, i get ur bullins quite slow since im just lvl 43

[slender turtle]

Yeah only have like 2 hvars atm

[viscid swift]

forget about 2 fleets then, justs stick with your first fleet and focus soley on that for the time being

[brittle oasis]

Will the progress for the priority ship when doing the EXP thingy still go up even though i’m using lv125 ships? If what i just said makes sense

[soft raft]

Yes
even if it says +0 on the end results screen, it still counts for research

[viscid swift]

yes, but I wouldn't reccomend it

[brittle oasis]

Okayy, thank you. It’s just that i don’t have alot of ships of the same faction 😭

[sweet delta]

I'm in the same boat. Had to use some level 120 ships for pr grind

[stark quiver]

did this guy just say im in the same boat

[viscid swift]

I mean so will I this season

gonna have to use 120 ships for any main fleets

[stark quiver]

same, on the basis of not having bulins

[brave bluff]

For CVs, is two yellow steam catapults better than steam catapult and homing beacon?

[stark quiver]

depends on the timing and sync

[hollow gust]

Homing beacon is only used to speed up or slow down CVs, syncing is generally more important then pure damage

[brave bluff]

ok

[stark quiver]

you should use a bulin mk2 or universal bulin

[eager mulch]

purple or gold bulin

[eternal basalt]

UR Bulin doesn't count, so no

You'll learn this a lot with Kearsage, BB sometimes mean BBV but mostly not

[gaunt cedar]

are dr5 ships going to be coinable next year?

[viscid swift]

most likely yes

[zenith heron]

I already asked this, and Suchi said Lion all the way to MLB due to her massive pressure in gameplay...

but after I MLB Lion, may I know at least an order on who to MLB first? would it be Rumey Immediately? Z52? Guam? Its for general content like OpSI and Campaign, but not tackling Chapter 15 yet...

[stark quiver]

lion, z52, fritz, guam i guess
can also do fritz before z52 if you care abt this meta fight, and have high reload to 4 strike

[viscid swift]

how many UR Bullins can you get right now

[zenith heron]

1 Bulin in Storage and 5 more on the rest of the Specilized Cores

[viscid swift]

so ask again when you get 2 more

[zenith heron]

I see, if only I had Laffey 2 and Trafalgar

[stark quiver]

trafalgar just ran

hopefully guam/laff rerun jan next year

[zenith heron]

Missed her, too busy... and just had a new phone after the event

[worn urchin]

Im just spend 15 cubes on light built

Am i just do a big mistake?

[glad lark]

Ok thanks vro

[soft raft]

How many cubes do you have right now?

Also why are you considering this?

[worn urchin]

Umm 34?

[worn urchin]

Cuz im asking someone in general, they said just pull at event

[worldly pewter]

1st mistake
going to general

[ivory pawn]

I'm more concerned why you're spending so many pulls on Light personally.

[worn urchin]

Idk😭😭 its the cheapest one...

[worldly pewter]

is this ur first gacha game ?

[worn urchin]

No.. Ive played kuro and hoyo games

[forest palm]

[worldly pewter]

is it worth spending premium currency draws in standard in kuro and hoyo ?

[worn urchin]

😭😭😭

Ive watched guide on yt, its said its good for pull in light built

[ivory pawn]

Just one a day, because you then complete a mission that gives you back a cube. Basically a free pull.

[viscid swift]

gimme a sec

[obtuse island]

what they always say is that if you can't guarantee a GOOD ship then don't pull

[worn urchin]

I see....

[viscid swift]

give that a read
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop

[worn urchin]

So.. Should i do reroll? 😭😭

[viscid swift]

AL is not like other gacha games

[worn urchin]

Okyy

[forest palm]

AL was made before Hoyo tainted the waters

[viscid swift]

for one, you can expect to eventually reach 100% collection rate as a completely free to play player among other differences

[worldly pewter]

the only issue is that reruns take over 2 years

[zenith heron]

but do collab characters also add to collection?

[viscid swift]

no

[worn urchin]

So.. Should i make new accouunt?

[viscid swift]

no

[forest palm]

literally no reason to

AL doesn't frontload you with anything and rewards time played

[worldly pewter]

can u show ur pity counter ?

[forest palm]

yes a gacha that respects you

[worn urchin]

A sec

This one?

[worldly pewter]

20 cubes isn't a big of a deal

[worn urchin]

Okay...

[worldly pewter]

u can keep using the account but don't use any for now
the next events are in mid august and mid september

[worn urchin]

It just i have a habit that always make a new account if im doing a mistake😭

[worn urchin]

Okayyy

[viscid swift]

I mean if you have no knowledge of the game you're bound to make mistakes

[worldly pewter]

the only account bricking action is spending gems on weird stuff

[ivory pawn]

And that can also be fixed.

[worldly pewter]

not for everyone

[worn urchin]

I should spent it on dock and dorm right?

[worldly pewter]

for dorm don't buy more than 2 slots
the recommended number is 1 slot but 2 is the max

[viscid swift]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[worn urchin]

Okay

[obtuse island]

correct me if i'm wrong, but the reason DDs like shigure or yukikaze simply don't work is because they lack either a single but extremely good AoA or a second barrage to make up for the relatively bad performance of torpedo DDs while mobbing, right?

[viscid swift]

what, more like they're just medicore all around

and the torps aren't even that good to top it all off

[obtuse island]

also do bbs and cvls actually do anything with their AA gun

usually when my vanguard fails to kill all the airplanes they just smash onto the backline even if they were low

[sweet delta]

The main fleet's standard AA gun is part of the vanguard's AA circle

Also, ship AA stat reduces the damage taken from aviation damage, including when airplanes crash into the main fleet

[obtuse island]

really useful to know.

[worn urchin]

Have to make sure.. I don't need to reroll right?

[sweet delta]

There's nothing to reroll for unless you bricked your account by spending all your gems on useless stuff on the first day

[viscid swift]

Tell me, what do you think you would gain from rerolling?

[worn urchin]

Umm.. The cubes that i waste on light built?

[viscid swift]

considering that you're guranteed to get 168 cubes a month and with active play that number is well over 200 a month

20 cubes is nothing

[worn urchin]

I see, thank u for convincing me..

[obtuse island]

168 cubes a month and ontop of that the 60 cubes you get from completing the handbook phases

[viscid swift]

I don't tend to count 1 time sources in these numbers

[paper ore]

How much Hit do I need to land all my backline salvos on target if im running trafalgar and eldridge

[soft raft]

You should have as much as possible cuz how tf are we supposed to quanitfy that number for you when not every enemy will need the same amount of HIT

[paper ore]

so aim for 200+?

[soft raft]

White shell + Either HSFCR or the rainbow table
simple as that

[paper ore]

aite thanks

[low juniper]

Do muse ships count towards PR CDC missions

Like Noshiro muse for developing Azuma

[soft raft]

Yes

[wind hazel]

yes but try not to use them

[low juniper]

Why

[soft raft]

Muse and child ships give jack shit in regards to tech points and fleet tech

[wind hazel]

they dont give ship techs, better to use something else to get exp

[low juniper]

Which of these IJN ships is a tankier type

[sweet delta]

Takao augment or just haguro. Haguro level 120 tech is very good

[fast steppe]

what does traf do actually

and why her over laffii yk2 etc

[stark quiver]

did you read her skills yet

[fast steppe]

slow and eva rate debuff

[stark quiver]

correct,since you have lion and 2 other good/decent BBs, traf is good
and you also have other tanks available, while not pushing chapter 15

[fast steppe]

ic

[stark quiver]

york 2 is good but niche, shes best against light armor enemies when paired with kearsarge

[fast steppe]

ic

traf it is then

[stark quiver]

oh yea also a 10% fp,avi,trp increase to lion and other hms boats

[fast steppe]

o

just realised I can get jintsuuM from dossier analysis but idk what fleets would be good against her

[stark quiver]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[stark quiver]

meta chronicle

but with your dock, id say lion,alsace,maybe fritz,

[worldly pewter]

oath waiter needs to survive for 800k damage which is not hard with lion and alsace

[slow fox]

slander

[fast steppe]

has anyone done the maths between xp gains grinding 12-4 with ships on dorm level 1 vs ships on level 2

I'm wondering if the 10 extra morale from level 2 is enough to offset the xp gain from level 1

[stark quiver]

its only morale regen, if you fight at 150 morale in 12-4, then you probably wont go under 120 and not get bonus
the +10 morale regen is just to get 150 faster to sortie again

alas, you get cucked by oil anyways

[forest palm]

You'll always be in the negative regardless of the floor. Floor 2 just gives you a slightly longer window

[fast steppe]

oh so the strat is to only fight until you dip below 120?

I've just been spamming until they exhaust then grind opsi while they regain

I've still got like 40k oil in reserve

[stark quiver]

you lose +20% xp

i like to save mail oil for when a event drops with good farmable gear

[stark quiver]

i wait until im at 150 morale always

[fast steppe]

I meant grind until you lose the xp bonus then wait till you hit 150 again

[worldly pewter]

it is a min max strat not important in a game like this

maybe at the start of the game u might find some benefit

[wind hazel]

it is more efficient to grind that way, if you have a lot of time to play

if you don't have all day to play, not suggested to do that

[fast steppe]

how usable is Plymouth at d25

[wind hazel]

can pseudo tank, can act as buffer

damage still 📉 til dev30

[fast steppe]

would she outperform Helena on average or nah

[wind hazel]

huh

in a lot of situation you would use them both together, i dont see the reason why you want to compare them to one another

[fast steppe]

is Plymouth not a debuffer

oh

[forest palm]

You'd use them in tandem

[rapid summit]

Is USS Kansas a new ship or has existed in the game before?

[fast steppe]

wondering what my frontline options for jintsuuM are

seeing as I don't have Eldridge or aurora

[forest palm]

Considering she's from PR8 which is unreleased gonna go with new ship

[rapid summit]

Oh she’s a pr ship? Alr ty

[wind oxide]

She's a discovery

[fast steppe]

how important is tankiness against jintsuuM

[rapid summit]

Discovery? Does that mean new

[frail quarry]

Does it matter what server I play on?

[dusk maple]

Very important, I used Eldridge retrofit for consistent clears

[fast steppe]

damn

[sonic vector]

Is kansas gonna be a ur?

[dusk maple]

SR. PR to be exact, not DR.

[sonic vector]

Oh so gotta reserch? 💀

[wind hazel]

ye

[sonic vector]

Im not even done yet with friedrich 😭

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 then you probably dont even have the tech for PR8

[forest palm]

Well the Dutch Ship is gonna be interesting for tech req

[dusk maple]

tbf uss tech is pretty easy to get

[sonic vector]

Yeah but im mostly eagle focused so maybe?

[wind hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fast steppe]

hm managed to have all 3 of my vanguard survive jintsuuM and did just about enough to 2shot

[sonic vector]

I just started liking iron blood a month ago when bismarck existed so maybe i have enough points for kansas? 😭

[fast steppe]

are buying black vit-2 prints with protocore worth

[atomic abyss]

No

[wind oxide]

If you have enough to build kearsarhe then no worry lol

[stark quiver]

for friends, maybe guilds, pvp, current medal shop pool

[severe tinsel]

Guys, should i save up dorm food and only fill it when I'm abt to farm or smth? Or should i fill it whenever i can

[stark quiver]

also competition in ex

[sonic vector]

What pr is that rq, ill check

[stark quiver]

PR6 DR Kearsarge

[sonic vector]

Sadly i only got 800 😭

Yeah i wont be getting kansas any soon,

[atomic abyss]

Fill it whenever you can

[stark quiver]

thats fine

[atomic abyss]

It has no impact on morale

[sonic vector]

Saddening for me still, want to try and get every existing Eagle BB atm (still waiting for Iowa, i mean the iowa and not new jersey)

[stark quiver]

play actively, and youll have the points in no time

[sonic vector]

Yeah ill do that, ill just finish friedrich first so that bismarck zwei has someone else from iron blood

Are there any good iron blood cv?

[stark quiver]

fritz rumey

[hollow gust]

Meh, you have more then enough wyverns/barracuda that will last you

[severe tinsel]

Ok

[stark quiver]

did you forget to scroll 😭

[sonic vector]

Researchable or gacha pull-

[stark quiver]

gacha , wait like 2 years xd

[sonic vector]

Cus im considering getting parseval next

[sonic vector]

That much? 😭

[worldly lion]

Which one should i pick up?

[stark quiver]

yea unfortunately, reruns take a good while
but there will be a lot more new UR in between

as for august if you dont have implacable, shes great

[sweet delta]

The coordinates at the bottom (not classifieds) should've been first pick

[sonic vector]

Yeah i dont think i have implacable, british cv right?

[worldly lion]

Both rarities right?

[sweet delta]

all of them, you have just enough vouchers

[gusty olive]

Need a reminder on why KGV guns are bad

[stark quiver]

spread
slower than most bb guns

[frail quarry]

As a new player do i just use all my pulls on the rate up banner?

[stark quiver]

wait for UR banner in september
do 1 pull on light banner daily

[gusty olive]

Outsi of that, is the dmg even alright? Or straight up shit?

[hoary relic]

what gun should i use for agir? i dont have guam gun

[dreamy blade]

Agir gun

[hoary relic]

this?

🤔 and switch back to azuma gun for Light enemies?

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_305mm_(SK_C/39_Prototype)#tabber-tabpanel-CB_Variant-0

[warped acorn]

do these get unlocked eventually

[hoary relic]

erm they are blank areas

[dreamy blade]

Idk which gun that is tbh, but agir gun is good vs all armor types

[warped acorn]

hmmm

thought the file mission may do smt

[hoary relic]

u do them for mat and bp

[warped acorn]

oh

[hoary relic]

and files ig?

[warped acorn]

so the file mission is one time...

[hoary relic]

those infomation files

[dreamy blade]

Oh that gun, I mean if you already have it then yeah you could swap to it for L armor, idk about crafting it tho

[hoary relic]

eh ima craft agir gun only, maybe crafting azuma gun with parts

from researching

[dreamy blade]

Well I hope you don't have any prints of it since that would imply you are taking pr2 researches

But yes agir gun is worth crafting if you don't have prints of it from pr4 research

[urban grail]

anyone knows the site with resources and ships data

[hoary relic]

ig i'd get enough when i do catch up in pr2 for proto core

[dreamy blade]

Uh like the wiki? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki

[urban grail]

similar but it was developed recently

[dreamy blade]

There is ECGC and this page specifically you might like? https://azurlaneecgc.com/tools/

[dreamy blade]

Catchup is separate from research focus, doing a pr2 catchup doesn't mean taking pr2 research

[urban grail]

nvm i found it, https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/

[hoary relic]

🤔

[stark quiver]

well its worse than the UR guns, but JUST damage its better than mk6

[gusty olive]

Sadge that the only gun that shoots 4 shells are mid at best

[dreamy blade]

Quad152

[obtuse elm]

how many la9s should I go for?

[dreamy blade]

3 or 4

[hoary relic]

what is the best converge torp bomber?

the vit2 black one?

[sterile jolt]

4 is enough in most cases

[stark quiver]

ju87,ryuusei,saiun,vit2 mode change

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/#torpedo_bombers

[hoary relic]

🤔 wyvern is bad for bossing right?

use converge torp bomber for bossing right?

[stark quiver]

wyverns damage isnt good for single target bossing

[dreamy blade]

You end up wanting to have like 2-3 of each of the different converging tbs for timing adjustments

[stark quiver]

for one, it takes 360 plates to +13
and its parallel torp, so unless the boss has a huge hitbox, it wont hit all the torps

[dreamy blade]

Or if it's like w15 bossing specifically

[hoary relic]

🥀 i havent touched w13 lol

due to the lack of ships

[stark quiver]

refer here

[dreamy blade]

I did w13 with only sandy and Juneau retrofit for AA

[stark quiver]

i did w13 with only sandy
and my mob fleet was roon muse,minneapolis,eugen, kids these days

[hoary relic]

isnt de zeven's AA is good?

[dreamy blade]

Very good

[hoary relic]

since she has 2 AA mounted

[dreamy blade]

Strongest AA in the game if you ignore fleet buffs that other ships have

[hoary relic]

better than sandy?

[stark quiver]

no

[dreamy blade]

If you ignore Sandy's skill that buffs fleet AA

[hoary relic]

i c

🤔 so should i up her to lv125 or just let her be there at lv120?

[dreamy blade]

Up to you, 120 is enough for w13, but she is also good in w15 and you might want 125 for that

[hoary relic]

maybe i'd save up those cog array for ply first

[stark quiver]

that would be a better idea yes

[cobalt robin]

Is this any good?

[sweet delta]

Interesting fire rate

[little tree]

~~ at that fire rate god tier ~~

[storm olive]

Makes Plymouth the new DPS ceiling for the game

[little tree]

Competes with rnger?

[cobalt robin]

ok guys enough meming 😔😔😔

[stark quiver]

you should try comparing to existing good cl guns

[cobalt rapids]

its the best gold gun for medium and else not much

[cobalt robin]

I'll stick to my Kai instead

[narrow kiln]

is this gun good?

[stark quiver]

mk6 is better

[rapid summit]

Are prototype gear supposed to be for pr/dr ships?

[stark quiver]

no, theyre for all ships

[rapid summit]

Alr ty

[stark quiver]

or at least the equippable hull types
\

[narrow kiln]

I'm more interested in whether the gun itself is garbage or not.

[stark quiver]

pretty much, since a purple gun is better

[fast steppe]

how much morale does a 12-4 run drain

[narrow kiln]

Well, I could notice it... I asked because I saw how literally every salvo didn't hit even half of the shells on the main target.

[stark quiver]

go do a run and see

[stark quiver]

yup
spread difference

[wind oxide]

3 sorties of 12-4 then it's like 28 usage of morale (if the said ships are in dorm else it takes more)

[stark quiver]

on paper the damage may seem better than the mk6, but in practice, the spread makes your shots whiff

[narrow kiln]

Can someone tell me how to understand whether a weapon is good or not?
But not through battles.

[hollow gust]

Comparing relevant variables with similar class of weapon

[craggy sorrel]

should i use anchorage in mobbing or bossing?

[hollow gust]

Whichever fleet needs her more

[stark quiver]

you use a baseline first, take a preexisting gun ,for example comparing the mk6, which is the best HE gun option (i think) outside of UR guns to the q152
youd wanna compare the important stats, such as raw damage, coefficients, damage modifiers, spread and importantly, reload time

[hollow sail]

the funny part is that if we take that literally someone could still be fooled by the confetti gun

[void walrus]

Confetti is useful for meme builds

[stark quiver]

the ultimate confetti indeed

[void walrus]

Like Max AA North Carolina

[whole crypt]

meme builds are basically useless, so you're effectively saying "useful for useless builds"

[stark quiver]

like the zflag

[narrow kiln]

this is confetti?

how to get this meme?

[void walrus]

The gear lab

[narrow kiln]

Is there anything worse than this?

[stark quiver]

yes

[void walrus]

The purple german CL gun?

[lavish scroll]

Is this stackable?

[stark quiver]

you cant use two of these on a sub

[random summit]

Please suggest gear for nakhimov to fight medium armor boss

[fast steppe]

for kawaM if i've only got 1 table who between lion and alsace wants it more

[stark quiver]

Change the augment
The gear is good, but in the end depends on the rest of the fleets gear

[random summit]

I paired it with soyuz and rummey/zwei

[hoary relic]

🤔 does vang work well with bis2 and lion?

[stark quiver]

What gears?
Just make a sync with this https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/
adjust tech oaths etc

[hoary relic]

cuz im researching ply rn

[stark quiver]

Why wouldn’t she

[hoary relic]

anyways, are there any emulator else bluestacks that run AZ smootly?

[split gazelle]

mumu

[hoary relic]

dang i hate that emulator due to ads

[split gazelle]

wait what ads

[fast steppe]

any thoughts? would you move the mk7 to lion?

don't have enough mats to +13 lion gun rn

[hoary relic]

🤔 isnt lion's dmg better than aslace?

[fast steppe]

yeah but the mk7 is +13 vs lion gun +10

[wind oxide]

Lion needs that fp bro

[stark quiver]

Mk7 on lion

[hoary relic]

🤔 no 6CHR for lion?

[narrow kiln]

My friend said something about Google Play games on PC...
But all I can say is that you can try it.

[stark quiver]

Why, it’s a waste really

[wind oxide]

Doesnt matter at most cases man

[fast steppe]

not +13 yet

[hoary relic]

lion is HMS BB...........

so isnt 6CHR is better than white shell for her?

[stark quiver]

And? You’ll +13 a faction locked shell for a good 1% increase in damage? Sometimes even less

[boreal wagon]

doesnt have azur lane

[wind oxide]

The crit rate is still low so doesnt matter

[stark quiver]

I would advice against +13ing it
It’s faction locked to HMS ships, and a very small increase in damage
A white shell does the same thing and can be swapped onto other bbs

[fast steppe]

aight

[narrow kiln]

Thank you.

[stark quiver]

Hold up wrong link
Here https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/
input your ships, gears and tech/oath
if you are doing metas, I’d say around 0.3 seconds from first to last firing ship
CM has to be tighter so there’s no desync

[hoary relic]

i should +13 aux first then guns right?

[stark quiver]

They use different plates

[hoary relic]

upgrading plate but not general one

while URs are 3x more exp than SR

[stark quiver]

Weapons take priority because they are a straight damage increase in coefficients, unlike auxes that only give more stats

[hoary relic]

maybe i'll halt upgrading them im not going for w15 soon so +10 still usable

[worldly pewter]

for w15 i only needed to +13 georgia gun
+13 is more for oneshot stuff

most likely with the current giga powercreep u won't need any +13

[hoary relic]

twin 457mm?

[whole crypt]

a +13 gun does 18% more gun damage directly, a +13 shell only adds 18% more FP on the shell

[humble tapir]

is it possible to get more than one rainbow bulin per month from the proto shop?

[whole crypt]

yes

right now the monthly spec core cap is 5k grind and 3k medal shop which is enough for exactly 2 UR bulins a month

[fast steppe]

does alsace's yellow skill do much on kawaM/jintsuuM

[hoary relic]

+0.5 for 1 bulin from cruise pass per 2 months

[humble tapir]

so if i just play more normal and opsi then i should be able to get the 5k? also does the 3k from the medal shop contribute to this 5k?

[hoary relic]

still have no idea what gun to +13 rn.........maybe champy?

[whole crypt]

medal shop is not counted into grind cores

[wind oxide]

nope they're external

[humble tapir]

ooh ok tks all

[hoary relic]

so uh +13 1 champy gun or all 3?

[rapid summit]

Is the lower the number and the different colour of the banner mean anything?

[whole crypt]

as many as you need, the other 2 can be soyuz gun and/or flandre gun

[hoary relic]

i crafted 3 champy guns for my current BB bossing fleet

[whole crypt]

colour somewhat, the number in the project code not really

[hoary relic]

actually 2 from lab 1 from parts

[rapid summit]

Best colour?

[whole crypt]

there's no best colour

[worldly pewter]

don't go with color

[whole crypt]

you pick the right project types, of the right length/"rarity", and the right series

[hoary relic]

anyways warspite is now good for exercise?

[whole crypt]

supposedly, if maxed with aug

[hoary relic]

mhm retrofitted also?

[whole crypt]

of course

[worldly pewter]

crafting champy from the lab is kinda not the right move
1 is passable and i m still against it

[rapid summit]

Alr ty

[rapid summit]

ty

[hoary relic]

so u mean we should craft it in depot?with parts?

[whole crypt]

I've had varying success with it against stronger stall comps becasuse it really counts on killing quickly

[fast steppe]

and does lion want to fire before or after alsace

[whole crypt]

generally after

[worldly pewter]

usually because of the electronics scarce especially after adding the tenrai and the new aa gun

[hoary relic]

that AA gun is simply just too exp for me now

im using staag as an alternative

and they are from researching

[whole crypt]

you just need to play more OS for longer

[worldly pewter]

yeah staag is fine
the only content that needed the new aa gun was the last meta fight

[whole crypt]

staag is ok for main fleet, rainbow 76 is good on everything

[worldly pewter]

just don't upgrade anything past +10 for aa guns

[whole crypt]

why not if you have spare AA plates

as long as you're not spending selectors

[storm olive]

Is it better to farm 12-4 over 12-1 even if the boss fleet is defeated by a different fleet than the farming one?

[worldly pewter]

because u don't know when the game will shower u with aa design and find urself having some ugly +10 76mm

[wind oxide]

So real lmao

[hoary relic]

6 gey 76 sounds............so extravagant

[worldly pewter]

6 is the standard

[hoary relic]

360 plates per

🥀 it is extravagant

[wind oxide]

but that will take like a lotta time to shower another UR AA gun on gear lab and they will eventually accumulate enough to waste the gold parts

[whole crypt]

just do shit in moderation and don't end up like me

[storm olive]

All those 57mms, what do you even use them for now

[worldly pewter]

not 6 but 7

[hoary relic]

[wind oxide]

It's 8 76mm

[whole crypt]

my point excatly

[hoary relic]

then i'll take prior for guns first

[storm olive]

I'm so glad I only crafted like one 57mm before 76 came out

[worldly pewter]

nah only wyverns then 76mm

use the dropped designs for mk7

[hoary relic]

i crafted 1 wyvern and 10rai

🤔 so mk7 next?

[wind hazel]

don't do this too

[worldly pewter]

tenrai doesn't use designs

[hoary relic]

reports right?

wyvern needs 9 right?

[worldly pewter]

no get more wyverns 1 or 2 then move to 76mm as i told u craft the mk7 with the dropped ones from abyssals and cat nodes

[whole crypt]

if you need more bad examples yes

[hoary relic]

[storm olive]

I only have 1 +13 wyvern and I only did it for hiryuu in PvP

[hoary relic]

why spearfish

[whole crypt]

because it's good for what it's good for

[worldly pewter]

u will need them in w16 trust

[storm olive]

What is spearfish used for again

[hoary relic]

but when?

[worldly pewter]

when they powercreep the wyvern

[hoary relic]

[worldly pewter]

w15

[whole crypt]

a reminder that spearfishes are not innately bad, they're just extremely expensive for what marginal improvement they offer in the limited cases where they do

[storm olive]

So in short I can just stick to my 4 wyverns

[worldly pewter]

i wish the devs make content that pushes the players to craft more variety of gears

[hoary relic]

isnt that upgrading is way more longer than crafting

[whole crypt]

upgrading what

[hoary relic]

to +13?

[worldly pewter]

it should be around the same time

[whole crypt]

enhancing what to 13 compared to crafting what

[worldly pewter]

if i understood it correctly it is getting the design parts and crafting a wyvern then +13

[hoary relic]

+13 an UR gear would cost me like 360 plates so ehh

[worldly pewter]

getting 9 designs will take more than 2 months without accounting drops which is exactly what opsi gives u as plates

[hoary relic]

mhm

im too poor to +13 an UR rn eh

not enough plates

[whole crypt]

I am actually short on plates now to finish lion gun

[hoary relic]

lion gun is a free but better ver of mk7 right?

[whole crypt]

but I also enhance too much junk

mk7 was free too, lion gun is better where it is though

[hoary relic]

from NJ banner?

🤔 isnt that is her gun?

[whole crypt]

yes

[zenith heron]

Do you guys prefer the Twin 203 SKC Improved CA Gun (Blucher Gun) for Mobbing and Bossing more on campaign than the Prototype Triple 234 CA Gun (Drake Gun) due to it being AP rather than the latter? or is it alright to use the Drake gun gamewise?

[hoary relic]

isnt drake gun is best for all armour type?

[whole crypt]

drake gun uses special normal

[cobalt rapids]

i dont use gold ca guns

[whole crypt]

drake gun just has good mods for all armours but it's not the best

[worldly pewter]

don't forget the others

[cobalt rapids]

its 2nd 2nd 1st(tied)

but there is a big dif between 1st and 2nd place on l/m

[zenith heron]

is it probably the Unzen gun on Light and the SAP one on Medium? (sorry for the topic, just got curious for unnecessary minmaxing damage)

[whole crypt]

unzen hindenburg

[hoary relic]

hinden for med

[cobalt rapids]

unzen on light
hindy on med
hindy ties with drake on heavy

[hoary relic]

but drake is 5% worse than for med compared to hindy right?

i mean armour mod

[whole crypt]

pretty sure it's more than 5% when you're down to DPS

[cobalt rapids]

more like 18%

[cobalt rapids]

looking just at armor mods doesnt tell u anything

[whole crypt]

I mean wiki has actual dps per armour type for you to sort

[cobalt rapids]

wiki dps is kinda 🔮 even for vang guns because it doesnt consider pattern and implictly geo hit %

[whole crypt]

angles and stuff yeh but it's good enough when you know what you're looking for

[molten zinc]

Look at you normal 155mm

[cobalt rapids]

plygun is the 10th best gun on light

[hoary relic]

wild a blue gun can even beat SR and UR gears

[cobalt robin]

My beloved kai

[cobalt rapids]

like we said angles and pattern matter so only use it if you know those factors are similar enough to get a good comparison otherwise better to ask than slapping on a blue gun on all your CLs

[hoary relic]

[sturdy oak]

Is there any way for me to brute force this? Ik i can leave the stage and come back but idk cant challenge the boss with low resolve

But if i go to another stage to remove the low resolve debuff the boss resets

[cobalt rapids]

if u leave the stage the HP will reset

you have to beat it in 1 go with all ur available fleets

[sturdy oak]

Ohhh
Wait if it is easy mode then the hp doesnt reset?

[hollow gust]

It's hard hermit , no freebes

[sturdy oak]

Ok ty!!!

[hoary relic]

doesnt rs if it is ez

only rs for hardmode . Didnt the game tell u that?

[sturdy oak]

So im missing out on nothing if i dont beat it?

[hollow gust]

Meh, do as much of its Hp as you can

[hoary relic]

u do........try ur best on hard for loots

[hollow gust]

The good shit is the first 50% of hp anyway

[cobalt rapids]

ure missing on some goldplates and some gold mats but its not much to worry about but should work on eventually beating the hard arbiters

[sturdy oak]

Ok thanks guys 🫶

[cobalt robin]

I will beat midget on hard one day 😔

[cobalt rapids]

good luck

[sturdy oak]

Do yall know what OS stages are good to farm?

[cobalt rapids]

everything with an icon above
when ur map is squeaky clean then u can dump the remaining ap into c5 or c3 zones

[sturdy oak]

Ohh okok tys

[wind oxide]

How does it actually matter? How does it affect their performance?
And for what content does it matter (im guessing pvp)
Im interested to know in detail

[whole crypt]

some guns just have very bad pattern or firing angles that if you only sort by DPS you get shit like that blue gun for CL guns coming on top

in no practical situation is that gun actually good

[cobalt rapids]

it basically affects their performance yes
angles affect how often a ship shoots her guns
while patterns affects well the bullet pattern which means indirectly it affects their geometrical hitrat aka how often the physical bullet connects to the enemy

[whole crypt]

firing arc (angle) affects how often a ship may not be able to shoot even when reloaded

pattern and spread means a gun may actually only land very few of its shells even if on paper it has a high DPS (which considers total shell damage)

[wind oxide]

Well it's basically the same thing for how the angle and pattern affects as it's just the connection to firing/ reload sequence

[whole crypt]

in practice there's only like very few top guns you need to even consider anyway

the question is really which "next best" guns you drop to if you don't have them

[wind oxide]

Yes

[hoary relic]

lol i all know is just using right gun for right armour type

[wind oxide]

🤓

[whole crypt]

it's not a real problem when you have like 5 hindenburg guns and 8 plymouth guns

[wind oxide]

Yea right

[whole crypt]

it actually still is when you filter down to how many copies are +13

[hoary relic]

sounds like i need to spend at least 3 years for them

[wind oxide]

no more lol

[hoary relic]

or even more

[atomic abyss]

Spoiler

You don't need many +13 gear

You don't need any +13 gear even for w15

[wind oxide]

Yea but the topic is not economy

[hoary relic]

im using +10 only rn lol.............i have enough plates for 4-5 +13 UR gears but eh

[whole crypt]

the topic is business class

[hoary relic]

still fine with +10 gears tbh

[whole crypt]

fighting lategame is like piecing together a puzzle anyway

the less pieces you have missing the more obvious the picture looks

[wind oxide]

Real

[worldly pewter]

ply gun will be available in the jan or feb update hinden in the next year so at max it is 2.6 years

[whole crypt]

assuming they keep their "promise" of lab updates it should be dec/jan

[worldly pewter]

yeah hopefully

[wind oxide]

And it's ordnances

[worldly pewter]

more like electronics

[wind oxide]

both are a problem really

[worldly pewter]

if they will cost like tenrai u will be looking at 1.2k

u can craft the ur ordnances from the gold ones

[wind oxide]

it takes 2 months to craft 6 T3

[nova burrow]

I just dont understand why the UR gear BPs in the prototype store dont reset like ones a year q.q

[whole crypt]

ordreps tend to be a bigger problem

[wary skiff]

"Groups up and "freezes" bosses. Not tiered here, but can bring Certificate in mob for third star." is written for bis zwei on the al rankings sheet, what is the certificate mentioned?

[molten zinc]

It probably gonna take the Neptune gun path....so extra 6 or 8 T2

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Certificate_of_Sponsorship

[whole crypt]

you could buy PR1 gear prints from proto, I personally used to recommend buying trash cans for crafting french rainbow AA over crafting in lab

it wasn't worth the trouble by itself but if it's the req for q152 then it's worth the proto cores

[wary skiff]

ahh ty, doesnt seem too necessary

[whole crypt]

it's for the ammo pen reduction particularly if you're trying to lethal 3star

but we simply have better/stronger BBs for mobbing than relying on that

[wary skiff]

what is lethal 3 star

[worldly pewter]

if that is true then there isn't any problem with the ordnances 6 per year 12 per 2 years 15 per 2.5 years

[molten zinc]

Uh what?

[wind oxide]

It is indeed harder to get compared to elecs which you can easily accumulate 70+ in one month

[worldly pewter]

u forgot the aa gun i think

[whole crypt]

lethal is the threat level of the stage, 3 star as in the clear status of the stage where you beat the boss and however many mob nodes
in late game mobs can be fairly hard and you'll need to do a lot of fights without ammo so using the cert was one way to beat those stages

[molten zinc]

Isnt it's always 2 T3 per month if you craft all the T2 you get? 1 T3 from shop, 6 T2 from shop, and 2 T2 guaranteed with the 2 abyss 6 from port shop and monthly shop

[wind oxide]

the EU AA gun? you need 45 elecs to make the gold gun before making the UR which only takes 36

[wary skiff]

ah ok, tbh ive only stuck to 12-4 lol and havent bothered to go past while building multiple fleets

[wind oxide]

that's well above 70

[whole crypt]

just keep playing OS you'll have more materials than you need eventually

[worldly pewter]

i need the 8 ply guns and the 5 hindy that u mentioned

[molten zinc]

I'm at the point where I craft stuff in gearlab just because I can

[whole crypt]

reserach is your friend, and time

[molten zinc]

Just hope PR8 UR gear is doodoo so you can go back and grind more Pr5

[wind oxide]

Im guessing a UR torp

[whole crypt]

doesn't need to be doodoo just needs to be something you don't need a lot of

[fast steppe]

bruh

[whole crypt]

PR7 was kind of iffy because you wanted like 4-5 La-9s

PR6 on the other hand 3 hindenburg guns is really plenty

[wind oxide]

Or something you can not prioritize above all

[worldly pewter]

14 is very easy don't forget

[fast steppe]

lion and Alsace still underlevelled

but my frontline still gets evaporated

[worldly pewter]

yeah ur frontline won't stand a chance

if u are rich in bulins which u should mlb laffey

[worn urchin]

What should i buy here?

[worldly pewter]

the golden cat box and the golden plates then refresh

[whole crypt]

books are a good buy too

[worldly pewter]

someone would also suggest skill books but i never used them

[split gazelle]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop
follow this

[whole crypt]

you'll have enough currency anyway just buy them, I usually just take all red

[worldly pewter]

at some point i ran out of that currency

[whole crypt]

when you're spending heavily earlier on maybe

[split gazelle]

buying elite ships for faction tech

[worldly pewter]

no it was on the guild tech facilities

[wind oxide]

You're levelling up ships from that shop for tech points?

[whole crypt]

which is indeed spending heavily, I didn't say it has to be in the guild shop specifically

[worn urchin]

Okyy

[split gazelle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Merit_Shop

eldridge / u37 are good, but not high priority. Eldridge needs limited event item and u-37 is not needed but can be useful in the late game (i.e. ch14-15 iirc). gold bulin is nice, rest is for fleet tech I think

[wind oxide]

Eldridge retro item is like on anniv right?

[split gazelle]

I've heard that as well yes, though idk.

[atomic abyss]

Maybe

[wind oxide]

Then she can just save it for eldridge

[atomic abyss]

In the past, UR retro items reran after a year

[robust nymph]

would it be a waste to buy these with core? im really running low on these

[lyric lake]

So yeah uh, how can I do this one?

[wind oxide]

Enhance a level 100+ ship to the max man 🍋

[fast steppe]

in a fleet of vg-alsace-lion with Alsace using Mk7 and lion running lion gun what should VG use

[lyric lake]

Ah, thanks 👍

[wind oxide]

you do know where and how to enhance right?
It's just above the limit break button

[wind hazel]

no, it's very worth. buy them every month if possible

arrays too

[robust nymph]

gear wise besides the black and white big bullets anything else that is a must have?

[lyric lake]

I am fully aware

[wind hazel]

beacon, aviation, then sub gear, ddg gear

breguet is cool too

[exotic vine]

is there anyway i can auto this, cause the strategic search stop until i click skip this dialogue

[wind hazel]

disable TB guidance in settings

this, turn it on

[exotic vine]

i have already turn it off but the dialogue keep pop up

oh mb

[obtuse island]

how am i suppossed to complete the event quests if even when i remove the specific type of ship from my fleet and complete the sortie it still doesn't count

[boreal wagon]

you have to do it with coalition mode turned on and none of the fleets may have any of the hulls

[obtuse island]

oh, alright

[lunar arrow]

There should be 5 ships in season, right?

[muted crescent]

/guide

[odd root]

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[forest palm]

use #bot-spam next time

[muted crescent]

oh woops my bad

[forest palm]

the typical trend is 5 ships per Season

[lunar arrow]

2 more to go then

[warped acorn]

does eff also decrease their cd

[atomic abyss]

No, just their dmg

[warped acorn]

oh thanks

[elfin hollow]

Is Zenker any good for Mob fleets?

[wind hazel]

she's good

[wary skiff]

do bidders take forever to get

[worldly pewter]

1 per month at most

[wary skiff]

ive only gotten enough mark 8 prints to make 2 in like 6 months

[worldly pewter]

are u doing lvl 65 ?

[wary skiff]

95

[worldly pewter]

u get less mark 8 the higher u go

it isn't important in the end if u have 2 or 3 it should be enough for anything

[wary skiff]

i mean i got 2 for 1 sub and 0 for the others

[worldly pewter]

1 bidder 1 g7 for each sub

i did w15 with that combination

there wasn't enough time to get all the bidders and started the raid kinda late

[warped acorn]

getting them with bp or gear lab worth

[gaunt cedar]

is it worth doing the meta stuff from opsi if it takes me around 100 oil for each attempt at lvl 15?

[paper ore]

You can request for help from others

[inner delta]

can you not ask for help, maybe someone from here or #al-general can help

[wind oxide]

the bidder? if you have the mark VIII that is
which is really easily available if you do the submarine daily raid and making the bidder in gear lab, those mats are very easy to get so yea

[warped acorn]

hmm

[warped acorn]

what abt the rainbow one

[inner delta]

if your target does not move at all then rainbow is good, but barely anything doesnt move

[warped acorn]

so i should go for magnetic ones

[wind oxide]

Kinda

[inner delta]

yes

[warped acorn]

alr bet

[warped acorn]

also how much lv should my ships be before taking them to 12-1 for lv farm

[fast steppe]

for light armor bosses in a backline of lion Alsace VG who gets what gun

[wind oxide]

i think 110+ should suffice

[forest palm]

what Alsace, and Lion are using are fine, Vanny could use an MK7 if you could provide it, but an MK6 would work

[warped acorn]

wont that take forever for me

[forest palm]

level range between 90 ~ 100 will do fine as long as you don't run all sub 100s

[warped acorn]

cuz am thinking to bring into my lv 56 enty to there

[wind oxide]

The enemies level 107 dude and you're putting <100

[forest palm]

this is xp farming

I've leveled 600 ships to 120 I think I know what i"m talking about

[wind oxide]

He might not even have the gears to put <100 level ships

[forest palm]

what's the average level of the other ships you're using, and are you still running a healer in the main fleet?

[wind oxide]

Really level 110+ or even higher else you might fail

[narrow kiln]

Can you recommend a list of guns to compare to understand if the weapons are good?

[warped acorn]

might remove it, others abt 115-120 ig

g7e or bidder better 🤔

[forest palm]

gear aside dragging a Lv 56 might be rough, though a healer could help there as long as fights don't last long is the thing though

[warped acorn]

hm..

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 dont bring lv56

lv80+ is fine, 56 is not fine

[warped acorn]

welp guess developing a fleet 2 is that hard

[forest palm]

only real reason I'm entertaining this is because it's a main fleet ship which is kind of harder to kill

[wind hazel]

if the fleet has poor aa, they will die

dont ask me how i know

[warped acorn]

or theres something else

[wind hazel]

easy and reliable option is to use 2 bidders

[warped acorn]

per sub?

[wind hazel]

per sub

[warped acorn]

ok time to clone 2 of it first for now

[forest palm]

12-1 is a low bar though so like some Hellcats would be enough

[viscid swift]

then use Uniocrn retro instead of wasting time in the dorms and a bunch of XP packs pushing to level 110

And as I keep saying, do not overestimate how difficult w12 is in safe

[forest palm]

[split gazelle]

70 and MLB is what I usually bring, if there's too many low levels I put in unicorn but thats rarely the case

[forest palm]

that's what I feel like you should be brining if you're going to drag a low level

[wind oxide]

Level 110+ works even without gears

[forest palm]

you can be way more lax if this is ops, but that's a different topic