gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

get her augment first and roll with it

especially if you don't yet have her retrofit item, also you'll need more bulins to retrofit

[fast dawn]

Alr thanks

[cobalt robin]

It's not linear, the further the more it costs but yea

[wicked obsidian]

Ow .. mmm.. yeah... looks like I have enough to get it from shop

[whole crypt]

spec cores will affect your UR bulin access, LB URs before taking the retrofit item

[wicked obsidian]

I only have 2 UR .. 🦁 and Trafels

[cobalt robin]

Lion mlb first

[wicked obsidian]

Lion and Trafalgar

[whole crypt]

yeh but they're waiting for bulin aren't they

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah

[dreamy blade]

then dont buy the retro item yet

[whole crypt]

so do that first and bother with Sandy's retrofit later

[cobalt robin]

Sandie mlb is fine, you can retro her later, prioritize lion mlb

[whole crypt]

Sandy MLB plus aug is already very decent

[dreamy blade]

and the same cant be said of non-mlb UR ships

[wicked obsidian]

Hmmm...

Where else can I get UR Bulins?

[whole crypt]

30k milestone during UR events, 15k during reruns
1 every 2 months from cruise pass
that's it beside spec cores

[dreamy blade]

only from spec core, UR event reruns like the current zwei one, lv100 cruise pass

[cobalt robin]

Event gives a free ur billing at 15k points, battle pass at level 100

Not sure if you can get the event one

[wicked obsidian]

I got the event one already

Few steps away from pass

[cobalt robin]

Other then that only from core shop

[whole crypt]

prototype shop

[wicked obsidian]

Is it recommend to buy from there...

[cobalt robin]

Mb I keep calling it core shop

[cobalt robin]

Always

[whole crypt]

prototype shop is literally your main source of UR bulins

[cobalt robin]

That's your primary source of ur bullins

[wicked obsidian]

Ok....MLB ing Lion now...then

[cobalt robin]

Event, bp etc are just bonuses

[novel solstice]

Also the only things you can spend spec cores on in that shop are the items for retrofitting a couple of ships (which you'll only get once each), and UR bulins, so go buy the URins.

[cobalt robin]

You can grind 5k special cores a month from stages and 3k more from missions and medal shop.

[timid saddle]

Can I put shinano in my Bismarck zwei fleet would the work with each other?

[whole crypt]

medal shop is 3k
missions count to mothly 5k

[cobalt robin]

Weren't there missions when you get first ur?

[whole crypt]

those are one time though

there's spec cores in weekly missions

[cobalt robin]

Billin support plan or whatever

[cobalt robin]

Yea ik just wanted to let him know

[whole crypt]

you can but not much synergy

also need context of what this fleet is for

[wicked obsidian]

I bought 2 UR Bulins.... only have 2300 proto points left now

[cobalt robin]

If Shinano isn't mlb then there's no benefit, a mlb sr cv will do a much better job with zwei

[wicked obsidian]

Enough for 1 sandy item

[whole crypt]

but can you actually afford to retrofit sandy now

[cobalt robin]

Did you mlb lion?

[wicked obsidian]

Naa..

[cobalt robin]

Do that FIRST

[whole crypt]

nothing from the prototype shop needs to be bought ahead of time, not even bulins

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah

I just did

[whole crypt]

just buy the things from the shop when you can actually use them

[cobalt robin]

Retro sandie later, focus on leveling and mlb the rest of your fleet

[wicked obsidian]

Ok... got it

[cobalt robin]

And also if you haven't yet, give lion the flag position

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah... she's in the flag position...

Besides her is (Glorious Meta and Unicorn 🦄)

[quasi nymph]

how good is warspite's augment ?

[cobalt robin]

Prioritize uni retro

Unless you have already

[wicked obsidian]

Uni is half way as well

[quasi nymph]

can she still be considered a fake ur is what i want to know

[cobalt rapids]

no she is true UR bb now

[cobalt robin]

Don't half retro units, just do one first before moving to the next one

[cobalt rapids]

still the weakest tho

[dreamy blade]

weaker than UVH?

[cobalt rapids]

prob around the same

[ornate shore]

Hello guys, i’ve finished my oils, and my opsi oil (i dont know the name), is there any other game modes i can grind on?

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah...I got told the same thing by some else as well...

[whole crypt]

take a break and wait for new event

[dreamy blade]

only project identity if that counts as a game mode

[atomic lagoon]

Thanks for your help yesterday guys , I manage to clear 100% 15-4 just need to 3 start then

[wicked obsidian]

Does that even give us anything

[dreamy blade]

no

[ornate shore]

So basically im done with the game (for the next 12 hours)

[whole crypt]

you can still refresh commissions or something

and PvP

[rapid summit]

Do I just keep farming world 7 till I’m level 60? Because I need level 60 for world 8

[whole crypt]

if you can run event D maps do that instead of ch7

[ornate shore]

Done with all that

Cleared opsi after i ran out of oil

Guess i’ll wait

[rapid summit]

I just need to do the hard tiers for the event

[ornate shore]

When will 7th anniversary happen?

I was here on the 3rd, 5th and dont wanna miss the 7th

[whole crypt]

if you can run HT4-6 instead for this event (equivalent of D1-3 for other large events) they have oil cost cap

[whole crypt]

August just keep playing

[rapid summit]

Okk I’ll try

[fast dawn]

Any good SR replacement for Eagle and Nürnberg?

[whole crypt]

why would you need an SR specifically
also what is the fleet for looks like you're just wasting XP leveling new ships

[fast dawn]

Better firepower doctrine for me and it's a combined fleet that's why

[whole crypt]

SR doesn't mean better for one
it looks like a combination of "I don't know what ships I'm using"

[rapid summit]

Nvm my ships aren’t high enough level for hard tier 1 on the event

[whole crypt]

for the record just by being 2 LB I think your Nurnburg can do more than every other ship in that fleet besides BisZwei because they're all 0LB

and Eagle

[fast dawn]

Yeah and is it enough for now? since I'm low level and don't have a proper ship combination

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/

[quasi nymph]

i dont think he knows much about fleet building for now

[whole crypt]

look one message up

[fast dawn]

Aight I'll just go ahead and read this

[cobalt robin]

I never see new players using their starter ships, it's a worthwhile investment early game

[whole crypt]

a lot of players who don't start off with some sort of guide like here and ectl/ecgc starter tips often just fall for shiny trap

like playing for waifu is one thing but AL rarity can be deceptively bad

[cobalt robin]

Yea the Starter ships are decent to good even with retrofit, can hold their own in mid game as well

It's not even a lot of resources

[whole crypt]

the main issue is you simply can't afford to use a lot of SRs early on and some SRs you come across are just bad

[cobalt robin]

Yea shiny trap for new players

Like kaga and akagi

[fast dawn]

Thoughts?

[quasi nymph]

her skills sound cool

[fast dawn]

I just unexpectedly got her during my recent pull

[sinful escarp]

+2fp at 120

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[narrow kiln]

In my first look at the tips for newbie I saw 1 interesting fact.
faction fleet suck.

is Bismark Zwei skill "Reborn Temple of Iron" worth improving?

[cobalt rapids]

all of her skills

[sinful escarp]

for any ships you are using its recommended to level all their skills

except for portland's red skill

[narrow kiln]

so... Which is better: does a small number have the maximum skill level, or are there many ships with level 5-7 skills?

[wind hazel]

what

just level them to 5 evenly, then max them 1 by 1.
or max 1 by 1 from left to right

[narrow kiln]

thanks

[wind hazel]

dev heard you and giving you early christmas present

[forest palm]

would rather they just rework the whole thing

[late flame]

meowfficers rework when

[calm ledge]

Looking to level some jp vanguard to aim for shimanto, anyone in particular (excluding shimakaze) a good idea to focus?
Not shown: kashino and akashi

[forest palm]

Kazagumo, Watarase, and Haguro

[cyan bloom]

how do I increase the morale of an npc ship?

[forest palm]

morale regenerates naturally over time, though the rate at which it does so is much slower outside of the dorm and stops at 119 (Green Face)

[inland shoal]

Make her not an NPC anymore, then you can put her in dorm
You don't have to use her to get trust

[narrow kiln]

Can you explain in three words why you shouldn't spin non-event banners, especially to get UR ships?

[tame jungle]

waste of cubes

[cobalt robin]

Event ur are better

[cobalt robin]

Even UR better

[wind hazel]

inefficient cubes usage

[rapid grail]

save up on cubes
doing 1 roll on light satisfies a daily mission wher you'll be given 1 cube and some other goodies
in total you'll get at least 3 cubes a day doing the daily missions
all in all, generally speaking there's around 165~170 guaranteed cubes from dailies, weeklies and missions

[narrow kiln]

is it possible to get event UR and Aurora from event banners?

[wind hazel]

no because there isn't any UR banner that build on light pool so far

[inland shoal]

And it's highly unlikely there ever will be

But light pool is what you pull outside of events anyway

[velvet slate]

if you login multiple times a day and make keep doing your comissions you can easily do heavy/special and have a chance at a random UR and not struggle for cubes

[inland shoal]

Or you get unlucky and run out of cubes

Why waste cubes for such minimal gain

[velvet slate]

i never bought a single cube, got into the game during the senran kagura event, literally pitied every single UR event in the game since the end of 2023 and have 800 cubes to spare after just pitying bismarck

once unzen comes around ill be up to date with all the rerun URs

[wind hazel]

difference between you and him:
you started 2023
he started 2025

[velvet slate]

i did the same thing back in 2023

u will only struggle on that first UR event that comes aroudn cuz you won't have any time to save up

[wind hazel]

glad it worked out for you, but that's still a terrible advice to give

[velvet slate]

after that you are golden if you do your comissions religiously

[inland shoal]

My question still stands, sure a less effective way can work, but why use it over the better way?

[narrow kiln]

he started 5 days ago, or less.

[velvet slate]

worked for me and every other friend of mine that started and did the same thing so yeh there's 0 issue doing special/heavy for a chance of a UR

[wind hazel]

and risk not having cubes for collabs?

[velvet slate]

i mean if you give a crap about a collabs than yes you are right

[wind hazel]

or being unable to pull off banners, forced to skip every non UR banner

[sinful escarp]

there is always a chance that a random event will have a ship that will buff the fleets we are using

[inland shoal]

I mean with 8 URs a year including reruns I rly dunno why you even want perma URs

[wind hazel]

not to mention the only relevant UR from the permanent pool is Shinano lol, and maybe Vanguard

[cobalt robin]

And you can get Shinano for free from the handbook

[narrow kiln]

or, like now, there is U, very likely wolfpack.
And there can be a Souz rerun...

[wind hazel]

it's basically a high risk low reward method

[left cedar]

with tons of UR per year and year by year they keep getting better than old ones ... idk why u are dreaming with a non UR Ship in meta

[rapid summit]

Do we know the UR for the event?

[left cedar]

its just matter of time to everything non UR be pure shit and useless

[cobalt robin]

He is biased and attached

[wind hazel]

there's no new UR until September

[inland shoal]

But sure, if you exclusively care about URs you can do a lot of things with your cubes
Tbh you can even do a lot with your cubes if you want all ships, but like save that for when you actually have a good amount of cubes

[warped tartan]

Is it alright to use my gems to get gold? I've done 111 pulls and I'm lacking gold, and it's the last day of the banner

I've lost Lion bcuz of Gold and now Zwei

[narrow kiln]

are you f2p?

[wind hazel]

do you have oil? go grind

[wind oxide]

when are the times when you need a homing beacon on CVs?

[late flame]

you can but its never worth it

[warped tartan]

Yup

[inland shoal]

I mean it's your money, but coins are one of the easiest things to get in this game

[narrow kiln]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[cobalt robin]

big fat NO

[wind oxide]

@wind hazel 🙏

[late flame]

to time airstrikes

[wind oxide]

like when you are close to miss by just 1 seconds?

[narrow kiln]

like times you need 2 airstrikes at 1 time, or skill attack?

[wind hazel]

when your CV is too slow and you wanna speed it up to match the other 2 ships

[narrow kiln]

The saddest thing I did in the game was accidentally hit the oil purchase button.

[inland shoal]

When you need a plane selection that makes it unable to be in sync with the other 2 ships cuz it's a bit too slow
In some cases also if you want it to get further away from the other ships without equipping too scuffed planes
And in extremely rare cases to get another airstrike in before the timer runs out

[wind hazel]

high rate of fire aa gun to improve the average reload time

largely can be ignored

[ivory pawn]

AA guns average their reload and range across the whole fleet. Accelerators have higher reload to bump up the average.

[inland shoal]

AA guns work by adding all the dmg, averaging the range and reload
So if your ships has bad AA stat you give it a fast rld, high range, low dmg gun

It's mainly a theoretical thing and somewhat irrelevant in practice though

[boreal merlin]

owh

[warped tartan]

Where should I grind? X-4 campaign or the event stages?

[warped acorn]

flapjack best fighter right

[vocal sandal]

oathing zwei will give an oath skin for her right?

[inland shoal]

12-4 is excellent for coins

[warped tartan]

Sadly I ain't strong to get there yet 😐

[cobalt robin]

12-1 then

[inland shoal]

Pretty much. Except in bossing ofc. When no AA is needed Tigercat and Sea Hornet are basically equal

[warped acorn]

bossing...

[inland shoal]

Then 12-1 > 11-4 > 10-4 > 9-4 or sth

[warped tartan]

Im still at 10

[warped tartan]

10-4 it is

[plain saffron]

anything i need from this event?

[inland shoal]

Not sure where exactly event slots in, but I presume you also can't do D3? Or HT6 or whatever this event calls it for no reason

[cobalt robin]

Ur bullin

[inland shoal]

cogs

[cobalt robin]

The gold plates as well if you can

[plain saffron]

no ur gear?

[cobalt robin]

There is none

[inland shoal]

This event has no gear

[warped tartan]

Can't auto HT6 but I could do T4 atleast

[cobalt robin]

You can get two get two t5 tech packs at 40k and 50k but getting up to 35k gets you everything really

[boreal temple]

is mob supposed to handle both 1st and 2nd boss for 15-4

[inland shoal]

Yeah I don't think that's worth it then

[warped acorn]

is experimental xsb3c-1 worth crafting

[cobalt robin]

Yea ik

[warped tartan]

Then I'll grind 10-4 then

[warped acorn]

if no rainbow

[cobalt robin]

Wrong chat lol

[inland shoal]

No

[warped acorn]

or skypirate

[boreal temple]

no

[inland shoal]

Also not rly

[boreal temple]

there's already a list of worth it craftables in gearlab just refer to that

[warped tartan]

Sorry my bad it's 9-4 not 10-4

[wind hazel]

no

[calm ledge]

I know soyuz is objectively the best nakhimov partner but are there any other noteworthy NP ships that enable her skills? Wasn't playing for soyuz event

[wind hazel]

well not exactly no, but the requirement is stupid high for this one

[boreal temple]

so I'm just gonna assume that I do mob for the first one and boss for the last 2

[narrow kiln]

If you want, I can tell you literally everyone who somehow has skills with slowing down.
Or wait for another answer.

[boreal temple]

I did not expect a third boss tbh

[wind hazel]

easiest is boss mob boss

[inland shoal]

Not entirely sure, but I think that's still better

[boreal temple]

ah because of the debuffs gotcha makes sense

thankies morii

[wind hazel]

yes and what fleet you use also factor in

[calm ledge]

All i know for sure is tashkent has one, not sure on others

[hollow gust]

Only Tashkent and Voroshilov are worth using

[wind hazel]

voro and tashkent

[calm ledge]

Ah ok thanks, no voro so I'll have to make do with tashkent

[narrow kiln]

...I think i dont need there, in this question.

[spare harbor]

Which of these is worth getting

[craggy sorrel]

best chap for grind PR exp?

[inland shoal]

None except for tech

[warped tartan]

After I did the pulls got some new ships, which one to focus now? Anyone?

[inland shoal]

Usually 12-4, technically 11-1 has best exp/oil

[narrow kiln]

so... BP meta is useful only if you like them?

[calm ledge]

12-4 is what i use

[inland shoal]

Yeah, they're all kinda bad and also hard to raise

[warped acorn]

what gear lab torp bomber should i give to unicorn (no rainbow)

[tropic tusk]

saiun kai

[warped acorn]

isnt that for boss

[inland shoal]

Idk what kinda resources you have. Good ships I can see are Glorm, Shinano and to a lesser extent ig Ark Royal and Otto

[warped tartan]

After I did the pulls got some new ships, which one to focus now? Anyone?

[wind hazel]

none from gear lab that isn't UR

well breguet is there but it's not recommended to craft

[warped acorn]

alr then guess ima just remain barracuda

[wind hazel]

just use barracuda until you can wyvern

[tropic tusk]

i mean he still to put sth right

[spare harbor]

How do you get Portland to purple and unicorn to gold

[wind hazel]

yes that something is barracuda. and certainly not a converging torp like saiun

[warped tartan]

Retrofit

[tropic tusk]

retrofit

[inland shoal]

Bregeut is good, but it's also too expensive I believe

[turbid marsh]

my heart is with you for missing lion.

[round pollen]

Is Grenville meta any good

[warped tartan]

I feel you

[spare harbor]

Like finish retrofit?

[inland shoal]

Purple META = bad

[round pollen]

Okay

[tropic tusk]

isnt hunter ones been used somewhere?

[wind hazel]

no

[tropic tusk]

[inland shoal]

No, Fortune had a time in pvp

[wind hazel]

kasumi meta has seen some use as torpedo stat stick

[warped tartan]

Yes, you will see the word (modernization) in it

[inland shoal]

Is retrofitting Port even recommended now with handbook changes?

[wind hazel]

more hp is good

probably lower priority though

[inland shoal]

Yeah but I mean idk how much you even use her now

[warped tartan]

Had no other choice, I need a tank as a beginner

[wind hazel]

still the most accessible cheap tank, but we had lil agir few weeks back so we recommend agir instead

[boreal temple]

boss fleet needs circular right? ffs I was running single line for some reason

[wind hazel]

but now i guess it's back to portland

[inland shoal]

[tropic tusk]

but u have her

[wind hazel]

double line, or circular if having AA issue

[warped tartan]

That's why I'm using her

[inland shoal]

Single line is pretty much only for easy stages you wanna clear fast

[tropic tusk]

i mean no need portland

[worldly pewter]

did u mean more eHp ?

[warped tartan]

You have a point

[wind hazel]

stahp, you gonna summon mebot

[inland shoal]

Yeah, but she's expensive and has lil dmg
But yeah that's already MLB Eugen

[warped tartan]

Other than Puegen, any other best tank I could build?

[inland shoal]

Anchorage

[tropic tusk]

yea its already mlb tahtsa y no need portland

[worldly pewter]

anchorage requires a lot of tech though

[wind hazel]

i mean he has both port and eugen...

and both are good enough until you get anchorage indeed

[tropic tusk]

i guess u still need portland since no 2nd tank

[worldly pewter]

where does someone need anchorage realistically ?

[warped tartan]

That's a long shot before I could have her, I'm still at PR 1

[wind hazel]

when you start opsiing

[boreal temple]

is the newbie prio still fdg > pr4 when it comes shipyard

[whole crypt]

any place you need a tank Anchorage is a good choice

[boreal temple]

you ideally skip 1 tho and go straight for fdg afaik

go start playing chess skk

[warped tartan]

Bruh, seriously? You could do that?

[wind hazel]

starting straight from FDG means you neglected shipyard way too long while you get faction tech lol

[inland shoal]

Nah, PR1 reqs are so much easier to get, can get a PR1 and still not have the pts for anything else

[wind hazel]

most start with Louis, or Roon

[boreal temple]

[wind hazel]

and Roon is often seen as stepstone in getting FDG

[whole crypt]

if you can skip PR1 it means you wasted too much money pulling gacha

[warped tartan]

I'm currently working for louis actually

[boreal temple]

I couldn't even finish my pr1 and moved immediately to pr2 when I had enough

[whole crypt]

that's just you making bad choices

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 you did something wrong then

[whole crypt]

there's basically no reason to not be able to finish your first PR1 ship in the time it takes to get enough tech for PR2 unless you just don't use the relevant ships at all for xp

[cobalt robin]

I'm gonna get roon soon, who should I go for next? I already have lion and zwei

[boreal temple]

yea that's newbie mistake numero uno not knowing cdc for my case

[wind hazel]

PR4, start with anchorage

[cobalt robin]

Accidently typed lion and fdg, I have lion and zwei

[wind hazel]

same answer can delay fdg, go for anchorage

[whole crypt]

just personally my new CN account went Saint Louis > Neptune > Ibuki > Monarch > Cheshire

I'm on Cheshire now trying to get tech for Ply

[cobalt robin]

Alright, can I keep doing agir catch up?

[whole crypt]

if you don't have Agir coming up soon for unlock I'd do Anchorage catchup first

[jovial jackal]

New event tomorrow ? Currently I've 240 cubes, should I start hoarding for the next UR or pull for the event?

[cobalt robin]

70/150

[wind hazel]

ask tomorrow when datamine is up

[eternal basalt]

What you want, UR sept, before that collab rerun and en anni

[wind hazel]

but high chance skippable event 🫃🏼

[whole crypt]

not the prints, I mean are you close to finishing the unlock for Agir herself

[inland shoal]

Yeah depends on your goals really

[round pollen]

Is there anything worth buying in the meta shop

[inland shoal]

None of the ships are

Crystals for Glorm are if you missed them in the event and can get all of them and have her

[whole crypt]

there's some tech fodder in there but there's not much you'd want to get early on

[cobalt robin]

Nah don't even have enough tech points

[cobalt robin]

.

[eternal basalt]

No space for the ships though, so if you see something you like just get them

[whole crypt]

if you're starting to work on Anchorage just do her catchup first then

there's no point rushing through Agir's catchup prints if you're not going to be able to spend them

[cobalt robin]

Need more tech points but yea i'll switch

[wind hazel]

can you develop Anchorage?
yes>develop Anchorage
no>develop other ship while you get faction tech for Anchorage

replace Anchorage with Agir next time

or any other future ship

[cobalt robin]

I can't and I still need like 200k exp for roon

[wind hazel]

so continue Roon, and do other ship, while you get more faction tech for Anchorage

[cobalt robin]

I started playing again just this month 🙄

[cobalt robin]

Alright

[wind hazel]

i started playing again this morning

[wind oxide]

I started playing tomorrow

[cobalt robin]

I speedran w11 in one day :p

[warped tartan]

How do I know if my ships are at low morale?

[wind oxide]

docks>sort>morale

[warped tartan]

Thanks @wind oxide

[forest palm]

they have faces over them, if you see red that's bad

also the game will notify you

[cobalt robin]

Ur upgrade part in siren shop for 300 tokens, should I buy?

[inland shoal]

Why not

[cobalt robin]

Done

[quasi nymph]

why dont we have any ur cruiser yet ?

[wind oxide]

because yostar is lazee

[forest palm]

[quasi nymph]

every other ur is either a battle ship or destroyer at this point

[little tree]

Who gets booted from bb boss fleet for Bismarck zwei

[forest palm]

pretty sure the last actual gacha vanguard UR was Unzen

[forest palm]

yeet Musashi

[little tree]

Thank you.

[quasi nymph]

another ca

[forest palm]

which is a Cruiser, congratulations

[quasi nymph]

not a light cruiser

[forest palm]

then specify as much

also Plymouth and Sandy very much do exist

[quasi nymph]

bruh you already knew i wasnt talking about the tank cruisers

[quasi nymph]

actual gacha cruisers

[forest palm]

I honestly cannot muster a care to give

[grizzled stream]

UR vanguards is just not....very exciting to pull for

[forest palm]

eh..that's very subjective

[grizzled stream]

for sure

[quasi nymph]

would cls like belfast not be exciting to pull if they were given their 2nd version ?

[forest palm]

#game-feedback or #al-general would like to welcome this dicussion

[grizzled stream]

eh, not for me. i prefer UR to be backlines

[jovial jackal]

When was Guam released?

[grizzled stream]

originally 12/21/2023

er i guess we didn't have rerun yet, so just 12/21/23

[golden saffron]

Which is best for zwei?

[grizzled stream]

if keeping UR gun on lion, prob triple 406?

[forest palm]

triple 406 Mk6, stop using that gun on Vanaguard, Warspite, and Seydlitz they're all trash

[golden saffron]

Where do u see mk6 lmao like I’m sorry but when yall say mk6 mk4 etc idk where that’s coming from

[wary skiff]

whats the best gold cl gun to use on plymouth? i dont have rainbow

[grizzled stream]

it's the one FDG has on

[forest palm]

reading is wild

[golden saffron]

That’s better than gold????

[grizzled stream]

yeah

[forest palm]

rarity doesn't mean something is instantly better

[grizzled stream]

well, better than the golds you currently have

[golden saffron]

This whole time I’ve been lookin for a gold one mb didn’t realize I had it

[grizzled stream]

were you able to farm ht6 this event?

[balmy skiff]

what is the best backline for pvp as of now

[hollow gust]

Spite Oak Lion

[balmy skiff]

warspoot finally has a use???

[golden saffron]

Shells taken off for what items? Or just leave em

[hollow gust]

shells are good, crossbow can be situational; it has a fat debuff against light armor. Although i doubt you will notice it early game

[grizzled stream]

another you can consider is stuff like SG radar or HFCR or w/e its name is

this thing

[golden saffron]

What torps are good? Since I obviously have no clue what I’m doin

[jovial jackal]

The quads on Z-23 are good

[golden saffron]

Sadly I use her on the team rip

[jovial jackal]

also you dont need to optimize so much until CH13

and Meta / CM / EX

[golden saffron]

I’m on 12 and honestly can mob through it pretty easy

[grizzled stream]

are you just trying to equip the ship for general use? if so any of the golds will do

[golden saffron]

Yes general solid builds is what I want

[grizzled stream]

i personally use anything that's purple or higher but some don't like that

[tulip zenith]

Does the augment make warspite good

[tame jungle]

if she hits her extra barrages, yes

[tulip zenith]

Like on modern ur level? Or not quite

[wind hazel]

old ur level

[tame jungle]

if she hits she's roughly NJ level i think?

[tulip zenith]

Oh ok not bad

[tame jungle]

it's a lot better than it was before to be fair

[wind hazel]

UR lv is still UR lv

[hollow gust]

when did Nj level become not bad??

[tame jungle]

ok

[wind hazel]

nobody is saying that if you can read

[tulip zenith]

It is not bad

[wind hazel]

not bad is accurate statement as well, UR relatively

dont ehhsex me

[wind oxide]

Mori senpai what's lion's spread with her gun?

[wind hazel]

idk

[forest palm]

gotta love when someone edits their sentence which changes the entire meaning of it

[wind oxide]

😭

[hollow gust]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prototype_Triple_406mm_Mk.II_Main_Gun_Mount

[ornate shore]

Hello guys where can i grind to get g7e accoustic gold?

Guys is prototype saiun kai better than aichi b7e ryusei?

[severe tinsel]

Which one is better for zwei second gun?

[wind hazel]

they are used interchangeably for timing purposes

[wind hazel]

neither, use 45fp CL gun

[hollow gust]

Well look in the back , they def don't have that ; use the twin 152

[severe tinsel]

Ok

[wind hazel]

im blind

[severe tinsel]

Who should i use right one on?

[wind hazel]

your dd or cl that uses dd gun

except some dd

[severe tinsel]

No... I'm abt to give it to z23, since her gun is suck

[wind hazel]

go ahead

[sharp socket]

how do i get rid of this effect on my screen

[rain vine]

restart game

[cobalt rapids]

how did u get the jp tutorial effect 💀

[wind hazel]

maybe meowfficer effect

[cursive sky]

Should I add her to my fleet?

[stark quiver]

nah

[fallen jay]

Am I supposed to use blueprints in the shipyard to develop girls?

Or just use solely the coins and daily free until level 30?

Cause I’m working on Saint Louis and she’s currently dev level 11. And I have some blueprints of her.

[tepid crater]

If you have both use both. SL is relatively decent against light armor thabks to her augment. But she isn’t the best overall. However if she’s an upgrade for you then don’t go balls deep into coining her if you are short on coins

[vernal osprey]

There's a limit of 3k to blue exp?

[wind hazel]

you are forced to use the blueprints before you can use coin

but how did you get her blueprints in the first place?

[stark quiver]

yea

[wind hazel]

ideally you dont want to have the blueprints for someone like Louis, so that you can protocore farm later

[vernal osprey]

Aight, Imma need to spend some then

What can I do with the extra blue prints I have?

[wind hazel]

blueprints of what

[vernal osprey]

Shimanto and Felix, I already did everything of research along with FS and now I still have like 200 Blueprints left

[wind oxide]

general blueprints? use them for other ships lol

[vernal osprey]

These

[dreamy blade]

analyze for protocore

[wind oxide]

Oh uhh ahem

[dreamy blade]

either from your inventory or in the proto shop

[vernal osprey]

oh ok, thx

[runic wagon]

Is there a teir list updated till now

[wind hazel]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[runic wagon]

Ty

[raw scarab]

Is there any way to get this or does OpSi just spawn unobtainable chests now and then (the mist barriers are solid on the cardinals, only the corners can be broken through)?

[ivory pawn]

The latter. At the very least, it’s a somewhat rare occurrence.

[grizzled stream]

that's just bad luck

[whole crypt]

unfortunately it's not that rare but nothing you can do about it anyway

[fallen jay]

Ok should I use some medals to get the last two retrofits I need to modernize Unicorn?

I currently have 300 medals and I need 2 of them so I’d still have 100 left over for reset when Enterprise hopefully is in the next refresh for me

Also is there a point or 3 staring a hard mode map of campaign?

[whole crypt]

3-starring gives you the mission rewards which is usually gold prints based on the stage, the later game stages have chips/arrays too
on the flipside going 100% doesn't actually reward anything besides unlocking clearing mode

[gaunt cedar]

so you're not supposed to use max lvl ships because you're wasting exp but the only good ship i have to grind for fdg combat data is bisz so is it fine in that case?

[hushed sorrel]

its always fine. in the end its just a small-small-small amount of exp. if you would repeat the stage a lot of time that changes things

[dreamy blade]

When you say "only good ship" does that mean you have bad ships you could use

[gaunt cedar]

i have gneisenau and little agir

[viscid swift]

Little Agir is a vanguard ship

[dreamy blade]

Then use gnei and bisz, agir is vanguard and doesn't count anyway

[gaunt cedar]

im not sure if i have the gear to make it work with a bad ship on 12-1 but i try thanks

[whole crypt]

you don't have to use 3 ships that count if you really don't have options, it's just slower than using 3

[dreamy blade]

If i made gnei+scharn+graf work I believe in you to make gnei+bisz work

[whole crypt]

also if you end up leveling everything eventually then leveling bad ships alongside good ones is less painful than having to level them later with other bad ships

[copper glacier]

I'm trying to figure out if I can get the T3 Twin 135mm (1938) gun that was available in The Virtual Tower Event. Is there a way for me to obtain it through the War Archives? And if so, how?

[viscid swift]

no

[copper glacier]

So, how do I obtain it?

[viscid swift]

it's in the Gear Lab

[cobalt rapids]

gearlab

[copper glacier]

What section? I couldn't find it.

[cobalt rapids]

do u need to obtain it in the first place ?

[viscid swift]

Italian, DD guns

[shell willow]

what armor is ex boss?

[cobalt rapids]

heavy

u can also consult lars db for all bosses stats
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

[shell willow]

thats neat

[white musk]

How much better for bossing is enterprise than dead master?

[soft raft]

Quite better

[cobalt rapids]

quite better even on avg assuming u dont have doodoo gear

[soft raft]

Enterprise is still one of the best CVs in the game since her damage ceiling theoretically can only go up as more newer planes are added

[dreamy blade]

Dead master is also nothing special

[white musk]

Ive been using her for bossing and retro saratoga, unicorn and black rock for mobbing

Hood is on my bossing fleet as well

[soft raft]

Swap Hood and Black Rock around

Hood's barrage pattern is more suitable for mobbing that boss

[white musk]

Ty guys

[eager mulch]

iron blood event tomorrow

[tulip crow]

I feel like my vanguard has low survivability any recommendations? thank u

[fallen jay]

So should I buy the retrofits I need for unicorn?

[cobalt rapids]

recommend limit breaking your ships and retrofitting unicorn

[fallen jay]

From the medals shop?

I’m on the last one “Modernization”

[cobalt rapids]

retrofit bps are too expensive from medal shop

[fallen jay]

Is doing X-4 hard mode on higher chapters more likely to drop the materials I need?

And I remember reading that there’s supposedly a cheese for getting 3 stars on hard mode is that still working?

[cobalt rapids]

the cheese is for 2nd star and it means turning off clearing mode and going in killing all escorts then quitting so u dont waste attempts till u fulfill the kill X escorts for 2nd star

[fallen jay]

So I just 3 star chapter 8 right?

So I can unlock the hard mode for it and do the cheese there on the first 3 levels?

Or should I just keep doing this on the lower chapters like 3 and 4

[cobalt rapids]

always do the highest u can unless ure doing the star missions

[hollow gust]

Level them up in addition to limitbreaking your ships

[fallen jay]

So when it comes to building a new fleet for mobbing how do I figure out which ship wants what gear for the best result for that?

[forest palm]

that's typically content dependent where stuff like world 13, world 13 HM, world 14, and world 15 are more demanding in terms of gearing and fleet composition, even early chapters like world 10 and world 11 can pose some difficulty

the short of it is context matters

[tulip crow]

do you think I need to replace them with any other ships?

[fallen jay]

Yeah I’m stuck at world 10 because of commander level. I’m struggling to level up my other ships as well.

[hollow gust]

Just fixing those limitbreaks and levels will last you to w11

[narrow kiln]

is J-class Crown is good to J-class DD?

[forest palm]

typically ya if you can find a J Class that's actually good...

[weary roost]

hello guys i need a good advice for gearing helena meta for mobbing, look i feel i had a wrong setting gear ty guys

[little tree]

[soft raft]

damn I havent seen that main gun in a while

[weary roost]

i need a advice not a critic tysm

[soft raft]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cl?ship=helena_meta
SG Radar is doing nothing on her since she doesnt have any skills that use it unlike her regular counterpart

[forest palm]

tomorrows event should be easy enough to level grind, outside of that for 10 + 11 you can use fire extingushers to reduce burn damage, and a good BB Auxiliary Gun to fend off Suicide Boats would help

[weary roost]

@soft rafttysm sir i saw all the things i wanted to know in the link, you really helpful +1

[sinful socket]

you think we get Brest FS soon, or should I just exchange the extra bp ?

[forest palm]

save the extra BPs, no telling when, and it's better to have than have not

[eternal basalt]

Brest FS is likelier than Plymouth...

[forest palm]

Agir is also kind of falling off, as funny as it is to say that, so she can also be in line for it

[little tree]

~~ waiting agir fs still ~~

[fallen jay]

Do you happen to have a link to a setup for Bismarck Zwei in a boss fleet? Or at least for my current gear I have?

[forest palm]

you can navigate that site, it's a tier list that shows gearing choices as long as you're willing to parse an read what they recommend

[tulip crow]

what about for my second fleet?

[hollow gust]

Limitbreak your fleets

[sweet delta]

Drop the mid SRs like Bremerton and terrible. And Grenville meta

and Hood

Yeah just use your first fleet for battle...

[steady rain]

at roughly how many pulls would it make sense to go for 200 pull pity to get a dupe?
i got bismarck at 180, should i do 200 considering my only URs are traf implacable lion and im saving for upcoming banners with 600 cubes atm?

[viscid swift]

well how many UR Bullins cna you get right now and how many do you need

[steady rain]

2-3 bulins and i still need to full mlb bismarck traf and upcoming UR banners

[viscid swift]

I'd go for pity at that point yeah

[steady rain]

👍

[fallen jay]

Same

[polar mural]

Dumb question i just started and randomly got something called a META ship. It's not in my dock so how do I put it in my fleet?

[sweet delta]

She is in your dock

Grenville?

[polar mural]

Oh yea that's her sorry I didn't see the meta thingy on her cause the color just looked like regular purple lol. It was indeed grenville

[soft raft]

Dont bother using her btw
Elite METAs are pretty terrible

[polar mural]

Really? Darn im really struggling with maps already in map 3 was hoping she'd be a big help

[soft raft]

give this a read if you havent already
https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[knotty dome]

which zones can not get opsi daily missions? i notice the C1 and center 8 zones never get daily missions, are there certain other zones that don't? i don't recall getting C2 often but i'm not sure if those are also entirely excluded?

[sweet delta]

C2 can get missions

[sharp comet]

what the fuck is this item? i cant find it on the wiki

oh its chise augment

[clever needle]

Since this message i've followed the gear (Q) focus
It might be rng rn but since i switched, i've only gotten two LA-9 prints
Does focusing Q mean more gear prints on average and not necessarily more ainbow gear prints? Or is it just a patch of bad rng atm?

[viscid swift]

just RNG being RNG, even with the best intentions you're still at the whims of it

[clever needle]

Ahh yep gotcha

[fallen jay]

Hey Iron Blood so I’m still confused on the gear thing. There’s a lot on the guide that is going right over my head

[viscid swift]

what do you not understand?

[fallen jay]

So there’s different ammo types and enemy equipment. I understand that. What I don’t understand is how to tell which is which just in its description or what armor the enemy is using so I can’t figure out which kind of weapon I need to put on my team

[sweet delta]

Welcome to the crippling luck club

[clever needle]

Also suchi, just wonderin what the fastest opsi stronghold fleet is? I've found messages for fastest c5 fleets but not stronghold (if it even is worth switching fleets)

[fallen jay]

I know that as I am currently I don’t have a lot of options for gear

But it would help me clear chapter 10 which I just unlocked with my 70th commander level up

[sweet delta]

It maybe used to be Perseus Aquila Luna ibuki watarase someone but idk after lion

[viscid swift]

so for what ammo type you can check each gear's wiki page
for what armor the enemy is there's this for bosses
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses

[fallen jay]

Oh thank God for you guys and this place. Your links to these pages and databases are a Godsend for my brain

[clever needle]

Ahh yep. Alternative to luna is akagimu?

[sweet delta]

I think independence is more useful as crossfleet

[clever needle]

I see, thank you!

[sleek tulip]

Hö

how

[cobalt rapids]

they get transformed to 10 meta currency

[tulip crow]

I have other ships, I’m not really sure which ones are considered good if u can help me by taking a look

[cobalt rapids]

open a thread and post ur dock

[leaden mountain]

bismark worth limit breaking? i have enough bulins now

[stark quiver]

Are those your only 2 UR ships? Or are there more

[leaden mountain]

traf, york2, nj, and lion (already maxed)

[stark quiver]

Zwei is good, and you happen to have a copy so full limit break her

[leaden mountain]

alr

[leaden mountain]

do i replace aquila or uni for her?

[stark quiver]

Nope

[polar mural]

Hows this raising navi thing work? Is there like an optimal choice guide or something or can I just do whatever?

[leaden mountain]

what do i do with her then

[onyx chasm]

Is it worth pulling on the banner after getting bismark for the other SRs for tech points or nah

[stark quiver]

Just put her in down for now or something
I guess u can use her in fleet too, replace Aquila is fine actually

[cobalt rapids]

tech pts or tech bonus ?
tech pts def not
tech bonus depends what stage of the game u at and how many cubes u have
theres a collab on the horizon

[stark quiver]

Seacat new pfp

[onyx chasm]

No I'm looking at tech points in the research for agir

[stark quiver]

The next event after this maint is iron blood

How many cubes do you have

[loud swift]

max limit breaking/leveling up your current iron blood ships to 120 would probably do more to get you there then continuing this banner.

Plus there's the next event which is also ironblood

[tulip crow]

My dock

[onyx chasm]

Well even if that were the case I don't have enough iron blood units worth using outside friedrich carl/prinz heinrich/Z23 (Retro) and bismark (still gotta MLB) and U-556

[left cedar]

a new KMS event and no Scheer why the fuck holding so long for a Deutsch class ?!

just 3 ships, possible 2 of them with very low amout of tech in general
probally something around 80 both combined

[onyx chasm]

Plus not to mention the fact that outside bismark and carl the rest aren't very viable or worth using for the exp quests

[steep merlin]

what gear should I give felix shulz? I dont have much

[left cedar]

XP quest can be done with anything without a problem ...

[loud swift]

1. How many tech points you have?

2. Even without mlb Bismarck just throwing her in an exp grind fleet and getting her up to 120 (you can do without mlb iirc) gets you 85 points.

[steep merlin]

she's supposed to replace Eugen mi so dont mind eugens gear

[left cedar]

probally he can do triple Z's low rarity and still beat the shit out of 12-1

EX
21/20/19
and still beat 12-1 with no healer

the detail here is just safe and all 3 with something like lv 110

[stark quiver]

EX mentioned

[onyx chasm]

I need 90 points left

[left cedar]

ex there is for example

[loud swift]

Leveling Bismarck up alone gets you almost there, grab a single ship from the next event and you're done

No need to keep pushing this banner

[onyx chasm]

Who's even coming next event

[loud swift]

Admiral Zenker and u552 I think

[left cedar]

1 BC
1 DD
1 SS

just the BC itself probally it will be enough for yo tech

[fair lance]

#game-news message

[left cedar]

have a Z there, soimething like 12 or something like that

[onyx chasm]

I've seen enough

[onyx chasm]

Sorry wha?

[loud swift]

The Z ships Z12 Z23 etc

[onyx chasm]

Ah

Also seeing as I just finished building anchorage and st louis do I wanna bother upgrading them rn or wait

[left cedar]

its 13 ... seens like my flash memory isnt that bad yet

[loud swift]

Do you have the blueprints for them?

[onyx chasm]

Uh for anchorage I've got.... 342

[left cedar]

enough for D30, so yeah, gud to go

w8, its 345 ... but u can buy it cuz PR4 already is coinable

[onyx chasm]

Do i not wanna focus on leveling other ships for someone like nahki, cuz i'm pretty clsoe to her

[onyx chasm]

w8?

[fair lance]

wait

[onyx chasm]

hm alr

[loud swift]

Level up whoever you want, the most efficient grind is to just grind whoever you like most

[onyx chasm]

Hm, cuz I usually just go for whoever is most effective or whoever I can use in a team of URs

[left cedar]

i think a bit diff from u

level up who u like more, ur top waifus, them go for the best Tech for them, farm them all for her ... eventually u will be full tech to ur waifus

[loud swift]

Hmmm, sorry I couldn't tell you is most effictive for that. Usually I just throw whoever I feel like into a team with 2-3 already leveled ships and just auto either until they usable or until I get a shiny new ship and replace one to fully level later for the new one

[left cedar]

i avoid as hell use 120 or 125 ships ... cuz they already give me wut i wanna, so is waste of oil and the most precious resource time ... i will always go for all 6 lvling, exceptions are done when i run out of ships to lvl, wut is generally about Main ships

[onyx chasm]

In the research focus section it says i've completed PR4's PR ships despite me not even having built august

[loud swift]

It depends, once I get the ships I'm leveling up to a point they can grind good exp stages on their own sure I'll run a full team of 6, until that point Id rather just have some already leveled ships carry em

[viscid swift]

that's catchup

[onyx chasm]

Well I've just been autoing the event and then afterwards 12-1 so I guess I can just wait till I have better ships for the exp grind

[left cedar]

just book them to 80~90 and let them go for 12-1 ... all 6 lvl90 can do 12-1 pretty easy

[viscid swift]

that's what you have XP packs for though, so you can instantly boost them to a level where they can carry their own weight at least

[loud swift]

True, only I'm only recently getting back into the game after years and don't have that many books saved up to do that for every one Im planning to level, until I catch up and stock pile more books I'll just carry for now

[viscid swift]

just get more tactical about things, like start pre leveling ships in the first floor of the dorm

[left cedar]

idk if that is gud, have plenty ships to lvl and things to do, or bad since u have a long way to go

everything i can say its boring to have almost everything done ...

[onyx chasm]

Who do i wanna MLB first out of Bismark/Sove/Traf/Amagi/Raff/Impla, cuz I've got just barely enough for 1 MLB (or do i wait?)

[left cedar]

small tip, about sovetskayas, say the 2nd name, cuz probally game it will go for all 14 projects so it will be 14 sovetskayas, each is "Soviets States"

Impla >= Soy > Bis2 >= Amagi > from here i'm not sure cuz i dint even bother to read much about traf

[hollow gust]

huh what kind of dock do they have that wants soyuz over bismarck

[left cedar]

i'm seeing more Soy being used them Bis2, outside of niche in W14/15 where bis do shine more for bosses, idk why u would go for Bis2 cuz in recently METAs she just get kicked out ...

[hollow gust]

bismarck is just the better BB for most content

[sweet delta]

They probably don't have nakhi d30

[onyx chasm]

I'm close to getting access to nahki but that's purely due to the lack of sardegna empire ships

[hollow gust]

Soyuz is better then Bismarck Zwei when with nahk which requires good CV tech and gear

[onyx chasm]

of which I have neither... Also wouldn't it make sense to try pulling on this banner that has more iron blood ships that I DON'T have than wait for an event that I think comes tmrw for what looks to be 2 SRs

[left cedar]

if u already got Bis2, i would remain with cubes and play safe for ... any of them arent meta ships or do have a use, so play safe and go for new banner can be a thing

eventually u will be with all old ships, just it will take time

exceptions can be made for waifus u trully like, but i do recommend to remain with a safe margin for URs

[onyx chasm]

Alr, thank you very much

[onyx chasm]

So should I just skip that event altogether outside potential tickets

[left cedar]

imo, yeah skip it, eventually u will be with all ships, just it will take time and a bit of luck in WWs

[onyx chasm]

What event is next after that or do we not know

[last zenith]

never mind

[hollow gust]

there is no reason not to do the daily 3 unless you are broke as fuck

[onyx chasm]

Daily 3?

Also isn't the next UR banner Alsace? Or am I on smth

[last zenith]

I have no idea

[onyx chasm]

Is there no info on it based off of JP

Like some sort of future calendar or smth

[last zenith]

I hope it gives my mini account time to recover after this event

[onyx chasm]

Kinda like in FGO

[last zenith]

Im down to 5 wisdom cubes

[onyx chasm]

😭

[hollow gust]

how are you that broke, do you not play the game

[last zenith]

my mini mini account started 3 days ago

[onyx chasm]

I remember having over 1k but then after musashi and raff, implacable and lion took me down to 275 or smth like that

[last zenith]

my mini account had about 1000 cubes but after the recent ur events its down to 152

my main is in good shape with 4500

[onyx chasm]

Gahdaymn

[last zenith]

but hope the ur event is like later

[onyx chasm]

yh cuz idk how long it would take me to even get half that amount

[hollow gust]

event has quests that give currency for 3 rolls

[last zenith]

I spend 1 a day and I been playing for 5-6 years also monthly, battlepass, and weekly

also my main account luck is goated

[onyx chasm]

Yh I could basically say the same for mine I just haven't been playing the game for what would be 70% of my account's age

Actually more like 80-90%

[last zenith]

o
thats understandable

[viscid swift]

niot even close, she's a Year off still from rerunning

[last zenith]

I would have been the same case but I couldnt abadon the wife

[last zenith]

unzen event this year. I must get another 5

[onyx chasm]

Oh yh that's who it was... Last time I was properly playing it was her first banner and I failed to get anyone

[last zenith]

unzen is wife wife.
top 3 wife
also her torpedo one of the best in game

[onyx chasm]

Who are the other 2

[last zenith]

for me? kawakaze and Ibuki

[viscid swift]

and no, all 3 servers are in sync and the devs don't really release road maps

but for a rough timeline not Including reruns

July: Ryza Collab rerun
August: EN Anni event(non UR)
September: JP Anni event(UR event)
October: Some smaller type event(non UR)
November: A collab event of some description
December: UR Event(likely 2 URs)

[onyx chasm]

Ah alr... Yh I've got a lot of saving to do

[last zenith]

2 urs are my worst nightmare

[onyx chasm]

Depends on who they are

[viscid swift]

why lamo, one's gonna be free

[last zenith]

Its garentee to take a ton of grinding
i atually have to think

[viscid swift]

if you're not lazy and not desperate to get her on the first day of the event it doesn't

[last zenith]

I am lazy :9

[onyx chasm]

Also with the event... Do i wanna ignore the x3/5 of the other events and just to HT6 or go for them and lose morale in the process

[last zenith]

but anyways I will take a bath now. Let me melt in peace

[viscid swift]

you'll literally get enough from "playing" a mini game, doing daily missions trhoughout the event and clearing D3 with the event ships in your boss fleet(they don't need to even live)

[onyx chasm]

But you've got so much to live for

[fallen jay]

So I just got Retrofit Unicorn. Who do I focus on next? Helena? Or does she get replaced by meta?

[viscid swift]

that is a very minimal amount of effort you have to put in, if you consider that much then well....

[last zenith]

depends on where u are

[fallen jay]

Chapter 10-1

[last zenith]

I suppose u right

[onyx chasm]

Who me?

[last zenith]

Ill help u after like 3 hours i gtg. Get the others here

[fallen jay]

Alright

[viscid swift]

no

[viscid swift]

if you can clear with with relatively low oil fleets do a daily clear on all the event maps

[viscid swift]

well who else are you using

[onyx chasm]

I mean i only have just enough ships for like 2 fleets (I think) which I use for auto of HT6

[viscid swift]

what I mean by low oil is using 1-1 fleets

[onyx chasm]

idk what 1-1 fleets are

[viscid swift]

a fleet with one main fleet ship and one vanguard

[onyx chasm]

Ah

Hm, I guess I could use unicorn and probably.... Carl or Sandy

But the issue is morale as well... Also at what point in opsi do I start getting materials for better rarity guns

Cuz I tend to do opsi after i run out of morale so yh

[viscid swift]

put them in the dorm then
as for OpSi well

you'll start getting higher rarity mats once you start tackling more difficult stages

[onyx chasm]

I alr have the mob fleet on resting and then the other ones on upgrades

[viscid swift]

not much more you can do then

[undone plover]

what is ex strat this event?

[sweet delta]

For auto, you can use triple BB with Eldridge and 2 tanks or Helena

[dusty terrace]

I auto'd it with lion zwei alsace eldridge plymouth laffey ii (with eagle union damage control)

[undone plover]

what is armor type

[stark quiver]

its zwei as boss

[onyx chasm]

Do I wanna start building halford instead or kearsarge

Also what purpose to gems have outside skins

[stark quiver]

do you want to waste your time with a awefully trash ship

[onyx chasm]

Idk who you're referring to so no

[stark quiver]

halford

kear is niche

[forest palm]

I'd sleep on PR6, PR8 is around the corner

[onyx chasm]

^

[dusty terrace]

extra dock space mainly

[onyx chasm]

and if it's maxed out?

[stark quiver]

do you have 3000 dock space

if you have money, then gems can be used for almost everything

[fallen jay]

Helena, Z23, and Portland.

[onyx chasm]

3k? that's max!?

[stark quiver]

i believe so

[viscid swift]

Portland I guess

[onyx chasm]

Realistically I'm never gonna need that much

When grinding exp for new ships do i wanna put them in mob fleet or boss fleet or just have them run solo for 12-1

[river junco]

more battles = more xp, put them in mob with a healer if they aren't strong enough to survive without one, or you can have them full clear if they don't die

[inland shoal]

I think it was upped to 4k on CN anni

[onyx chasm]

Also do I wanna just slap on whatever equipment I have on them until i get better ones suited for them?

[wind hazel]

dont use random shit gear, still give proper gearing, even if budget ones

[onyx chasm]

👍

[sweet delta]

Are Lion and Unzen glass cannons?

[onyx chasm]

Lion, not from what I've seen. Unzen, got no idea

Also what's the ideal level I want ships to be at 12-1 if I wanna start leveling them up

[forest palm]

he's being facetious

[inland shoal]

I think metal cannons have proven to be more practical

[inland shoal]

That really depends a lot on how bad your fleet is

[wind hazel]

depends on what else you're using, can be 70-100

[viscid swift]

ah, so you saw the same reddit post

[wind hazel]

redditors

[onyx chasm]

I mean the vanguard fleet is traf/anchorage/heinrich. Then we've got impla/bismark/unicorn for main

[sweet delta]

What are you talking about 💀

[inland shoal]

Assuming your gear is decent, lvl 70 should be good enough

[onyx chasm]

Define decent

[sweet delta]

Gear that's good enough so your ships don't die

[onyx chasm]

Well we'll see in a sec

[inland shoal]

decent
adjective

1. conforming with generally accepted standards of respectable or moral behaviour.
2. of an acceptable standard; satisfactory.

But yeah jokes aside just idk decent, not necessarily top UR options, but like best you can do ig

[viscid swift]

something like that

[onyx chasm]

Yh would it be fine if I just did a lower chapter or smth like spreading them throughout my other two fleets?

[viscid swift]

nothing extravagant like 100 Kais but just solid gear that's enhanced

[inland shoal]

I mean that's usually the thing to do when they don't survive, but w11 isn't necessarily easier than w12 and with how good those ships are you shouldn't struggle that much unless they aren't raised properly
But if you're still struggling adding a ew high lvl ships can help yes, just preferably none that are already 120/125

[onyx chasm]

hm

[abstract hollow]

So… I jinxed myself the other day. I pulled another Bis Zwei dupe with today’s build ticket after MLBing her already

Is there any purpose to keeping the extra dupe, or do I just retire it?

[viscid swift]

just retire or keep it as a flex

[ivory pawn]

You get 30 medals if you retire, and if you were slacking on the spec core gathering for the month you get a couple hundred.

[inland shoal]

fleet power stonks

[ivory pawn]

Ofc if you weren't slacking and got the 5k spec core already, you just get 30 medals.

[abstract hollow]

Unfortunately I’ve also maxed my spec cores. Could I keep her until 7/1 to get an early boost once they refresh?

[viscid swift]

yes

[ivory pawn]

Sure, you could.

[onyx chasm]

is there like a calculator to see roughly how much exp a chapter stage can give?

[inland shoal]

Yes
But ultimately all an early boost does is give you the "you're maxed" warnings earlier

[abstract hollow]

They don’t seem too hard to max, but that might be nice temporarily

I should have just waited out the 36 hours like I originally planned lol

RIP Bulin

[sweet delta]

Suffering from success

[abstract hollow]

Was really hoping for my first Otto lol

[stark quiver]

I should’ve waited 2y too, who knew I was gonna get a 2nd copy

[queen meadow]

Who should I max LB (if anyone)?

[white musk]

Lion lol
Insane ship

[hollow gust]

you should be maxing any UR you use

[sharp wave]

Is Bismarck zwei good?

[hollow gust]

very

[stark quiver]

max shima

[sharp wave]

Okay sweet

[sinful escarp]

use that shinano dupe to LB the higher level one

[plucky ice]

How good is lion compared to the previous bbs

[queen meadow]

Can't get ahold of too many UR bulins

[wind hazel]

lion is the current damage ceiling for BB

[winter patrol]

hi who do i take between shinano and new jersey in the invitation ticket? Who's better?

[white musk]

Not saying reddit is the greatest place to get accurate information, but this post sums it up pretty well methinks

https://www.reddit.com/r/AzurLane/comments/1kt00en/comment/mtqf1vl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[dreamy blade]

Shinano

[wind hazel]

shinano is often the better choice

[plucky ice]

holy shit, good thing I mlbd her first then

[winter patrol]

okay thank's guys 🫡

[plucky ice]

Thanks alot

[stark quiver]

you should not follow that, some URs are not that good even if you use them

[sweet delta]

This redditor doesn't seem competent

[white musk]

Everyone Ive seen seems to say lion is top 5 at the very least

[wind hazel]

bis2 and soyuz only depend on their barrage and only good at one armour lol

[dreamy blade]

Is that actually true about lions barrage/burn hitting subs

[icy sphinx]

Very good

[white musk]

Also that the buff is "only" 10% at the end

Idk why he would downplay that right after hyping it compared to other support BBs

[sweet delta]

Yes Lion is top 1 and that redditor I guess is saying she's top 1. But the explanation isn't very good, and his other comments don't say he's a good player either

[whole crypt]

fig usually starts off confidently with a few slightly correct bits then just runs off on a tangent

[white musk]

You know him?
I dont use reddit much, but its one of the first results when you do a little digging on lion

[whole crypt]

I don't know him very well but I see his posts fairly often, my assessment is basically the same as stig

[icy sphinx]

Lion has a good ability that makes it pretty strong

Set everything on fire, let the world burn

[sweet delta]

The nntktt dude and the cheeky warship dude are top 3 Azur lane redditors

[white musk]

My takeaway was

"Permanent crazy strong burn preload"
"Best gun efficiency in the game"
And
"10% bonus damage to pretty much everyone"

[whole crypt]

2 people are top 3 pog

[icy sphinx]

Bismarck Zwei has good barrage ability, Sovietzy Soyus too

Bismarck Zwei generates like a blackhole that pulls enemies to it, Sovietzy Soyus get's an iceberg to spawn over the enemy

[whole crypt]

all the top options have reasons they're really good, how you express that is another issue

[white musk]

Well, lion is crazy good and Im sad I missed the event

At least I got bis2

[whole crypt]

Lion is basically the current BB DPS ceiling

[icy sphinx]

Fr

[icy sphinx]

I'm currently leveling her up and I will limit break her later on

[sweet delta]

Lion is basically the best BB for typical bossing and even forces her way into CV fleets

[whole crypt]

does soynak count as a CV fleet

[sweet delta]

Lisona is a CV fleet

[deft kettle]

there aint no way lion aint there on top tier

[sweet delta]

there ain't no way ectl hasn't updated in the past 7 months 💀

[deft kettle]

oof

[glossy granite]

They take 7 months to update lol

[deft kettle]

yall think shes on top?

[sweet delta]

/tierlist these two tier lists think she's on top

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[glossy granite]

Wait no fucking way they still dont have Raffaelo 💀

[glossy granite]

She is very top, broken af

[sweet delta]

Well raffaello was 4 months ago

[glossy granite]

Do they not care or what lol

[deft kettle]

question is... would she surpass bis2 or maybe even... a l s a c e...?

[wind hazel]

their update isn't regular, that's all

[dreamy blade]

Keep in mind ectl is run by like, 2?3? people

[deft kettle]

thats insane, i dont blame them for taking awhile to update

[versed forum]

Which 3 subs should I raise and lvl 120?

[dreamy blade]

96 81 101

[stark quiver]

go ask in their server and have slurs hurled at you
theyre egotistical pricks who have nothing better to do then to give out misinfo

[sweet delta]

These are each run by 1 person

[glossy granite]

What kind of slurs im curious lol

[dreamy blade]

something something too many chefs

[sweet delta]

#al-general

[sweet delta]

Wait a day and decide based on U-552

[deft kettle]

u can pick, them 3 subs are top tier on the ranking

[sweet delta]

Yeah that's outdated too

Because 101 is better than 37 and 47

[dreamy blade]

101 aug erasure

[sweet delta]

And again, just wait

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼

[deft kettle]

what abt i-19? its the only sr sub i have lol

[versed forum]

okay thanks I'll wait

[sweet delta]

IJN subs are bad

[deft kettle]

damn it

[sweet delta]

You can consult the endgame tier list to distinguish between top subs. But even if they're S vs A tier, the difference is quite small like 5% or 10%

[deft kettle]

so if they are A tier they are still fine to use, yes?

[sweet delta]

Even D tier subs are fine to use

Subs aren't even necessary but

[sweet delta]

Top floofpack does like 70% the damage of the top fishpack

[whole crypt]

they do different things but like I said earlier she's the current ceiling

[gaunt cedar]

bis2 is better than lion?

[sweet delta]

Extremely rarely

[whole crypt]

not for damage definitely

[sharp socket]

is bis2 alsace lion good or vanny alsace lion better

for the current meta fight

or some mixed shenanigans like lion alsace fritz

[wind oxide]

Lion alsace fritz

Also does the milestone rewards stay over even after the event ends?

[rapid grail]

this has one of the highest winrates for Kawa META. 4 strike rec'd

Alsace Vanguard Lion also works

Alsace Biszwei Lion can work, I don't have Biszwei oathed. Maybe other ppl can achieve that

[sharp socket]

ok but what if i have 6 bb rld

[thin flint]

Small question but do meowfficcers matter?

[wind oxide]

Yes

[stark quiver]

bis2, lion alsace

[stark quiver]

for most content no
they do give a good boost of stats if theyre good cats
if not good, use them still because its free stats

[wind oxide]

They'd be crying over meowficers in endgame content

[sharp socket]

i cleared 15-4 with shitty cats

[whole crypt]

what do you mean, meowfficers are the endgame content

[wind oxide]

Also anyone?

[stark quiver]

they should
but tickets expire so good luck

[whole crypt]

they usually stay another week like shop, but it's really just for claiming stuff

[wind oxide]

👍

[vale spindle]

if someone gets cn or jp datamine content please dm it to me and/or ping me k thx

[cerulean musk]

only way to get rid of gold fast is to buy food?

[slow fox]

samisinformation

[vale spindle]

cog awakening, retrofits, limit breaks, general shop

each retrofit can be anywhere from 20k to like 50k or even higher sometimes

[cerulean musk]

im out of retros rip

[vale spindle]

and theres a lot of them too and they count as separate entities for collection %

theres cat rerolling too

[cerulean musk]

o right

[viscid swift]

@vale spindle CN Datamine was up 26 minutes ago
https://space.bilibili.com/4305299/dynamic

[thorny field]

Is the combat data collection for PR work in doorm

[vale spindle]

im at the gym and also need to eat dinner afterwards so its gonna take a while for the datamine unfortunately but ill try to get it out before en goes on maint

[elfin nimbus]

You can buy meowfficer

[viscid swift]

take your time, I will butcher it with MTL in the meantime

[vale spindle]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[cerulean musk]

yea ive been buying

[elfin nimbus]

Oh... Well... buy more🤣

[river junco]

how do you even get that many coins, im at a constant deficit with my coins being poured into research queue even if i burn my oil grinding 13-4 :/

[viscid swift]

mmm +1 hit

[viscid swift]

don't spend it
or you just run out of stuff to spend it on

[elfin nimbus]

^

[cerulean musk]

you dont wanna be gold capped anyway a lot of the game cant be played with max gold

like you get blocked from doing a bunch of stuff

[river junco]

should I keep researching pr5 after I d30 plymouth and brest but don't have enough prints to fs5 them? pr6/7 are all d30'ed

[viscid swift]

Up to you but you have less than 3 weeks until PR8 probably drops

[cerulean musk]

wdf pr8

[viscid swift]

it is that time of year again

[cerulean musk]

im cooked

guess i have to rely on the catchup events for pr7

[river junco]

ill go pour my research coins elsewhere then

[ivory pawn]

Good thing Ply/Brest don't have fs5 yet then.

[river junco]

ima pray they dont get fs5 when pr8 comes out

[viscid swift]

probably not

[echo vector]

Does current bisko zwei rerun extra challenge stage has no blue chip reward ?

[viscid swift]

it does

[echo vector]

Weird, i don't see it, could it be because i cleared it at event debut ?

[stark quiver]

no

[sweet delta]

Yes

[knotty dome]

i haven't updated my opsi fleets in a while

for my primary bossing fleets i'm using below, anything to update?
zwei/vanguaard/musashi/agir/helena/ply
shinano/amagiCV/implac/guam/kazagumo/sirius

i also have a kearsarge/ykii/avp/anchorage/potter/aurora secondary anti light but i generally find that it isn't all too useful. is there a better boss fleet to stuff in here or do i go with some crossfleets? kron/z52/unzen (shima's in mob) and idk what backline to put

[sweet delta]

Hi @slow fox what's the hypothetical maxTechAndGearPortland eHP of a hypothetical vanguard ship with 3750 HP, 100 EVA, 52 LUCK, no skills, no gear, no augment?

[analog phoenix]

How do i get this fast ?

[viscid swift]

Operation Siren, Guild Shop, lvl 95 daily raid

though you're not getting 50 main gun plates quicly

[plain saffron]

so this event no shop right?

[viscid swift]

Coalition Type event

[sweet delta]

did you miss the Lion gun 💀

[plain saffron]

lion gun in new event?

[viscid swift]

no

[knotty dome]

in case you didn't already you can convert universal T4 parts into any kind of gold plate
the event milestone track has some universal T4 parts, but not in that volume and not very quick and depends if you've already gotten them already

[slow fox]

Is this ship a CA, CL, or DD?

[sweet delta]

It's an UNK with no tech

[slow fox]

okie dokie

[sweet delta]

and no gear so the hull shouldn't matter

[knotty dome]

is there a ranking of all the crossfleet barrage damage?

[plain saffron]

Datamine or something
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTc6YKP4Mqia4SovURExDJYhJgGZIwOYvTj7h_WlLSwaWSrVBLqvinLSLx5azxYUB_9oY2x8qJ_mS8l/pubhtml

[sweet delta]

Hmm quite good

[sweet delta]

How many bullet hits would you assume per second if a hypothetical ship could block 3 hits?

[slow fox]

I'd assume that the shield lasts less than one second.

[slow fox]

Who is this hypothetical

[sweet delta]

U-552

[swift hornet]

does the mini version of ships like taihou-chan give fleet tech

[slow fox]

mutsukistare

[sweet delta]

Zenker Multitarget, Zenker Singletarget

[stone sluice]

New ships good tech or not?

[viscid swift]

Zenker is hit

Z13 is FP(shocker)

[slow fox]

no eva so sad

[undone zinc]

Which SSR should i invest on?

[atomic abyss]

Black rock shooter if you got her augment from her event milestone

[tidal meteor]

New gun info?

[viscid swift]

What new gun

[stark quiver]

the lion gun is good

[undone zinc]

Any others?

[vale spindle]

can u give me all the tech (collection and 120) for all 3 plz

[vale spindle]

thats not new, thats the odin gun from pr3

[atomic abyss]

Nope
They're mostly pretty bad to meh