gameplay-help

[slow fox]

Isn't this an uptimecalc skill issue

[clear harbor]

I got my first research ship, Saint Louis, to Dev 30! 🎉 Should I spend my coins on getting another ship to Dev30 (Monarch, currently working on Seattle, Roon will be next but will take a while)? Or should I fate sim Saint Louis?

[undone plover]

ideally get anchorage and coin her

but for now u can do roon for KMS tech

oh wait sry roon is not ready
then finish saint louis imo
monarch not that great (augment wen )

[clear harbor]

Yeah, Roon after Seattle (assuming I still don't have the tech for Anchorage).

[undone plover]

u could do seattle as well to dev30 so u can use pr2 catchup on protocore
but if u are using saint louis then u can finish her first

[clear harbor]

Which ships are coinable again?

[wind hazel]

1-5 except DR5

[sweet delta]

what happened to hatsuzuki?

[slow fox]

Forgor evarate

Who's responsibility is it for keeping dated copies of my eHP3 values

mutsukistalker

[gaunt cedar]

so whats point of developing pr1 ships if im not going to use them since im pretty sure i have a lot of better ships than st. louis/monarch

[viscid swift]

tech among other things

[gaunt cedar]

so you can do up to dev30 with coins right? does max dev give more techpoints

[viscid swift]

yes seeing as Dev 30 is the equivilent of max limit break for PR ships

[clear harbor]

Lol. I do it to see numbers go up. I didn't even stop to think if there were any practical aspects.

[sweet delta]

catchup protocore

[gaunt cedar]

i didnt have 20k to put for st louis back then so i just started developing another ship and ended up forgetting about her

[clear harbor]

Understandable.

I've been struggling to manage my own coins lately.

[meager tiger]

me with 200k coins

[deft kettle]

do yall think its worth farming 3-4 to obtain akagi and have a great waifu?

[meager tiger]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/akagi-azur-lane-azur-lane-anime-gif-4557538133680049311

[deft kettle]

is hard mode the choice to farm her better than normal mode?

[cobalt rapids]

the choice is farming her when u can run something like lb0 ranger and lb0 cassin/downes but shes just a collection ship so keep that in mind

[deft kettle]

yeah i know

i need more waifus for my dungeon

[cobalt rapids]

good luck

[deft kettle]

thx

[blissful galleon]

What is the “best” iron blood ship to develop in the shipyard?

[cobalt rapids]

fdg aegir avp

[blissful galleon]

Any order you recommend?

[sweet delta]

Depends on your dock but generally new players start with fdg

They don't have enough tech points to start aegir

[hollow gust]

Roon getting forgotten

[stark quiver]

unless you can low oil it
e.g. 4 oil fleet
then i suggest you dont cuz its a waste of oil for mid ships
but if u do want them for just waifu ig u can

[crisp geode]

Is there a way to stop HT6 from playing the final scene over and over again?

[nova crane]

how could i maximise cube gain

[stark quiver]

play the game
do cube comms

[sweet delta]

They should be different stories every time and go away after like 5 or 10 runs

[crisp geode]

[slow fox]

-# also a list of waifu picks amazing

[nova crane]

might have to set a timer and lock tf in if i wanna get bismarck zwei

[storm olive]

Who is the current benchmark for gold DPS CA (feel free to include drake)

[cobalt rapids]

drake then ( idk )

[sweet delta]

What is a benchmark

[slow fox]

100%

[sweet delta]

Then I would set the benchmark as Prinz Eugen so that I can praise for being 300%

[silk helm]

is musashi power crept

[stark quiver]

not in campaign

[slow fox]

Is this real information

[low juniper]

Anyone else having connection issues?

[strange path]

Yeah i just disconnected mid sortie

[slow fox]

<@&472236072743600148>

[stark quiver]

is that mrbeast

[pastel owl]

/mute 388894604600279041 scam

[odd root]

member must be a mention or valid user id.

[slow fox]

[forest palm]

[fickle parcel]

Is HT6 bugged with High Efficiency Combat Log Plans? I can only apply 2, to my 3x repeat sorties on the Auto-Repeat screen.

[brisk dragon]

how do i get those war archive keys again? been decades i forgot

[white agate]

claim 3 per day

[viscid swift]

4 not 3

[brisk dragon]

where to claim? i dont see

[white agate]

recommended to use heclp on war archive since you use 1 key for 2 runs

[brisk dragon]

oh really? good good i didnt know

[brisk dragon]

i see it now. i was being blind as always . ty

[brave trail]

opsi fleets help

[elfin hollow]

Anyway how to change auto clear? My mob fleet keeps attacking the boss and vice versa

[soft raft]

check the Role tab in the screen prior to starting the sortie

[elfin hollow]

Where to check?

Nvm, thanks

[tall kite]

hallo

[last zenith]

mm
just send ur fleets

[tall kite]

ok

screenshots or names?

[soft raft]

screenshots

[last zenith]

ss

[last zenith]

i see we have a fellow emden lover

[tall kite]

of what screen

[last zenith]

your dock

[tall kite]

can you show me one example screenshot

[soft raft]

nah not really
more like poking fun at the devs skipping her event since I maintain the rerun order list

[last zenith]

o.:( so no emden

[soft raft]

*If you're gonna do dock screenshots, post them in a thread

[last zenith]

he been playing for a week. its going to take 2 ss

[tall kite]

not a week

[soft raft]

literally a screenshot of your dock
idk what else it would be lol

[tall kite]

like 4 months at least

[soft raft]

Either way sounds like you should just go give this a read
https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[tall kite]

like the entire dock?

[soft raft]

Yes
even if it takes multiple images

[last zenith]

in that case

[tall kite]

ok

my dock ships

[gaunt cedar]

do ur rerun events happen only once after 2 years or no?

is the hope of attaining sov soyuz gone

[viscid swift]

that's the rough timeline yes

[gaunt cedar]

eh i mean do ur events rerun only once and never again or once every 2 years

[viscid swift]

they rerun once roughly 2 years after their original run and then the ships are made permanent after 9 months to a year roughlu

[brisk dragon]

what stage in Shimas event that drops z2?

[tall kite]

how does the gear lab work?

where do i get the components?

[soft raft]

Grinding Operation Siren

[tall kite]

is it worth it?

[simple ice]

a question about specialized cores, so if im understanding this correct only the shop cores u can buy each month dont count towards the cap?
i got a dupe for bismark zwei but already have her max lb, any use in keeping a copy ?

[tall kite]

wtf is "poverty"

[fair lance]

cheap option

[sweet delta]

If you don't play opsi then you can basically wave goodbye to clearing chapter 15, one shotting meta showdowns, and other endgame content

[tall kite]

ok

[fair lance]

Yes medal shop special core is the only one that doesn't count towards the weekly cap

[white agate]

isn't ch15 doable with no lvl 13 equipement?

[sweet delta]

Correct, and the reasons for keeping a copy may be

1. Skins (but you could just use her SR version)
2. Fleet power leaderboard
3. Idk

[white agate]

oh, for the gear lab i guess

[sweet delta]

That's why I wrote "basically"

I can clear chapter 15 without +11 to +13 and without rainbow/gold gear

[viscid swift]

Can't remember but she drops from HT1 and T1 of the current rerun

So just low cost farming T1

[tall kite]

so what should i focus on grinding rn?

im on 11-2 main campaign, level 76, havent done this event yet

[fair lance]

Farming the event then

[viscid swift]

Well focus on the event first, HT6 if you can farm it

[tall kite]

i have barely touched operation siren

[brisk dragon]

looks like i was miss informed or i misunderstood

is z2 even available in war archive?

[fair lance]

I mean she drops in SP3 of counterattack if you don't want to farm HT1 from this ongoing event.

[viscid swift]

I think I told you her own event, i.e. Counter Attack within the Fjord among others

[brisk dragon]

yeh i misunderstood. i don't reading "her own event" i just rememeber her being war archive. so i check what's her event. i read "shimmering" i open war achive. i see shimakaze's even with something like shimmering. i thought that was it
was confused why would an elite iron blood drop in sakura empire event kekw

TH3 doesn't have oil cap?

[viscid swift]

no which is why I suggested low cost farming T1

[tall kite]

why does this gun say "AKA duck gun" 😭 \

[brisk dragon]

i see

[viscid swift]

it's a bit of a story

[tall kite]

wait

all the guns have nicknames wtf

[viscid swift]

That gun was parimarily used IRL as the main gun of the Akizuki class Destroyers and the name of the lead ship of the class can be rendered as Akiduki, I'm sure you can work out the rest

[soft raft]

Most of them yes
because do you really expect someone to remember every single equipment name

especially when some weapons share the same calibers

[tall kite]

lol

i just think its charming

[brisk dragon]

forgot low cost farming is that thing. been decades...... whats a good low cost farming fleet ?

[viscid swift]

the usual, 0 limit break Ranger and Cassin/Downes

with cross fleet support

[soft raft]

"Ayo is the Triple 406 any good"
"Which one?"

[sweet delta]

oldest azur lane player

[brisk dragon]

ikr . played ot couple years before release
and what are good cross fleet supps?

[fair lance]

Musashi Alsace Soyuz is the main ones

[viscid swift]

and even among the relevant ones
we have the Mk6, the Mk7, the Lion Gun, the Raffaello Gun, the Soyuz Gun, the Champagne Gun, the Kearsarge Gun

[solemn needle]

what does this mean gng

[viscid swift]

get a ship to level 100 and max their enhancements

[vale spindle]

you need a ship thats max enhanced

[soft raft]

this screen

[solemn needle]

ohhhh

[tall kite]

all these stats are making my brain hurt 😵‍💫

[soft raft]

fucking image didnt send 💀

[solemn needle]

i max enhanced my z23 retrofit but it don't count apparently

[fair lance]

level 100?

[solemn needle]

ay it has to be lvl 100 mb

[onyx chasm]

What can I use these for apart from skipping the exp reqs

[brisk dragon]

are drop rates in T1 and TH1 the same?

[viscid swift]

convert hem to prototype cores

[fair lance]

analyze them.

[viscid swift]

no clue but you can do T1 a lot cheaper

[gaunt cedar]

is it worth grinding event to get all the blueprints from shop over farming w12 for xp and coins

[simple ice]

i know my other ships are also a factor as to which ships i should focus on but can someone mabe give me a few pointers on which ur-ship i should focus on first ?
like any one of those ships more important then others ?
(havent played in a while and this is what i have)
didnt have enough time to get lion, but oh well
+2 bulins from event rerun and battle pass
can link more pics of other ships if needed

[tall kite]

gyat

[viscid swift]

finish Trafalgar and wait for the JP Anni

[tall kite]

i have trafalgar is she good

[brisk dragon]

yeh but i dont have an extra ranger

[simple ice]

when is jp anni ?

[viscid swift]

September

[viscid swift]

yes, very

[tall kite]

should i level into her or focus solely on lion

[viscid swift]

give it a run or 2 of W12

focus just on max limit breaking one UR ship at a time, in this case it's Lion

[tall kite]

alright

[simple ice]

alright then ill get trafalgar up first and then ill see what i need/wait for september

[warped acorn]

how many story are there in ht6 it disturb my afk grind aaa

[fair lance]

Like 6 or 7

[warped acorn]

rip

[paper nebula]

is Chapter 13-15 ever Auto-able? i suck at playing the game fr fr

[viscid swift]

Yes, since day 1 of their releases

[paper nebula]

i see i remember chapter 13 coming out and my friend told me it cant be auto-ed so i just didnt tried... is there a spread sheet of some kind on what set ups should i use

[eager marsh]

i'm at 110 pulls, can I get enough coin for pity? i'm flat broke rn

[soft raft]

that doesnt really exist and it's also wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more approchable now than it was back then

[soft raft]

That entirely depends on how fast you can grind
Also it's literally like day 2 of the rerun, you still have 5 days

[viscid swift]

no because there's so many options that can work

[eager marsh]

I think i can gather 135K IF i'm doing 12-4

[paper nebula]

i see its cause i play the game like a waifu collector and didnt really bother to learn how to equip ships properly hahaha

i guess i should look at equips and what set ups work

[viscid swift]

yes, that would help immensly

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[viscid swift]

Suchi has guides for W14 and W15

[abstract hollow]

Hey all, quick question - I already have Shinano and am about to get the P9 rookie reward. Do I choose Shinano for LB fodder?

[paper nebula]

thanks a bunch

[abstract hollow]

TY!

[chilly plaza]

What level does Zuikaku drop? Ive noticed i need her for the event missions

[viscid swift]

She's in the medal shop rotation and a drop from Visitor's Dyed in Red but you don't need her for the missions

Getting all of the event ships is enough points to get the chat portrait

[warped acorn]

5/6 star of a ur = mlb sr?

[viscid swift]

No

[warped acorn]

also does kawaM get weaker everytime u sortie

[viscid swift]

No

[viscid swift]

Like it does depend but shit Lion and Musashi are exceptions rather than the norm

[warped acorn]

oh why lion are exceptions

[little tree]

Barrage and Burn dmg is Busted

[viscid swift]

She's just extremely strong

[warped acorn]

hmm

[viscid swift]

But like, Shinano for instance at 2 LB

I would unironically rather use Ranger

[little tree]

~~ the highest Dmg potential in the game~~

[warped acorn]

potential moment

[little tree]

If your lucky engough She out .damges every ship

[abstract hollow]

Farming 9-1 for coins for days because I'm too broke to feed my shipgirls. Hopefully I make it out of noob hell soon

[white musk]

is U-556 meta worth investing in? I have a ton of these torp and reload upgrade parts from the META event

[orchid scarab]

Are these 2 good?

[white musk]

I feel you man
World 9 is brutal coming into world 10, since there's so much jamming in 9 and the difficulty spikes on 10-1

[viscid swift]

Not really, ok

[orchid scarab]

Oh

[white musk]

Afaik alven is a decent lead DD

super tanky

[hardy creek]

When is Anniversary coming?

[abstract hollow]

Yeah, the difficulty spike at 10-1 was real. I think I can probably full clear it now, but I'm trying to get a little more of a power buffer

[white musk]

Its just impossible to grind 10-1 because the auto-play loves ramming your vanguard into those trains of suicide boats, and there's plenty of BBs in the mobs to snipe your backline

you need to be like 10-15 levels ahead to auto-play 10-1, and at that point you can just sweep the whole chap

[abstract hollow]

Yep, the suicide boats are what scared me away from trying for auto farm there

[viscid swift]

I mean, are you using fire extinguishers for one

[abstract hollow]

Unfortunately I have very few good tanks, so my 2nd fleet is using 2 DDs 😦

[white musk]

Yes
a level 105 roon ramming its face into 5 level 95 suicide boats is 40% of her HP, and thats if she doesn't get burned

[abstract hollow]

Yeah, extenguishers and repair boxes on all my vanguard ships, just not quite built up enough yet

[white musk]

And yes, she's maxed out

[viscid swift]

Cruisers should be using rudders and FE

Stagger the main fleets better for better wave clearing ability

[abstract hollow]

Rudders are from research, right? I don't think I've unlocked them yet

[viscid swift]

And retrofit Unicorn if you haven't already

[viscid swift]

I mean the blue rudders or naval camos

[white musk]

10-1 isn't so bad if you have a couple of BBs with good secondaries to clean up whatever your vanguard misses
Its just annoying to autoplay on it for coins/levels since its RNG whether the AI decides it wants to eat all the suicide trains

[abstract hollow]

Oh, these? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hydraulic_Steering_Gear#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0

I have no clue why, but I've never picked up any. I do have boilers that I could sub in, though

[viscid swift]

Yes

[viscid swift]

Should only need one BB really

[white musk]

Oh, and you can get Beaver squad tag at this point in the game pretty easily. Its the BIS for Ca

[abstract hollow]

Nice, I'll check it out

Might just be missing Thatcher? I'm pretty sure I have Charles Ausburne already

[white musk]

Yeah, its charles and thatcher that are the most annoying for that one

[abstract hollow]

ooooh, it's because I haven't LB'd them

[white musk]

Just gotta grind a bunch of doubles
Dont use bulins for map drop girls

[abstract hollow]

fo sho

[white musk]

You probably know that already
just wanted to make sure lol

[abstract hollow]

Lol, no offense taken. I'm VERY in the "does not understand absolute basics" camp right now

[sinful escarp]

but well if you have an excess of bullins, just use them

[viscid swift]

Nah, Purple Bullins aren't that common

[white musk]

maybe for charles
Not thatcher tho- her rates aren't
That bad

[abstract hollow]

I think I've got like 20 of them working hard labor in the coal mines

Might have a Charles dupe, too. Not super excited for drop ship farming

[white musk]

Yeah
I mean, there' aren't too terribly many girls that need purple bulins that you cant just grind for without them, either
But its best to save them for those edgecases

[white musk]

Its worth for beaver squad tag
It increases CA survivability by quite a lot

[abstract hollow]

I was going to start LBing my drop ships this week, but then I realized how bad my coin situation was

[viscid swift]

I mean I got done max limit breaking all the SRs well before max limit breaking all the elites and such

[abstract hollow]

Much appreciated. I'd balk at the cost without a good reason

I retired a truck full of SRs and Elites when I was starting since I was low on dock space and coins 💀

Basically just trying to climb my way out of making every wrong choice early on

[viscid swift]

Meh, culling ships is never the ideal solution

[sharp socket]

unless their tech is terrible and are easily reobtained

[white musk]

I would say for newbie newbies to not even bother pulling the gacha until you've got enough cubes for guaranteed pity on a solid event like this one (S-tier UR and the opportunity for doubles/UR bulins)

the game gives you all the ships you might need for up to ch
like
12

Since you just need to overlevel and have a not terrible comp

[viscid swift]

Uh no

[void walrus]

Do a light pull a day

[white musk]

well, yes
But that gives you your cube back

[viscid swift]

You pull on new UR events at least regardless of if you can hit pity or not

[abstract hollow]

Thankfully I got Zwei after a late night gambling spree yesterday haha

[viscid swift]

Some reruns as well depending on how the ships aged

[void walrus]

Or just one pull a day if you don't particularly care about efficiency

[abstract hollow]

I think it was like 40 builds

[white musk]

sure, but these events are gambling through and through
I pulled 196 times before hitting zwei this time

and it gives you free pull tickets just for playing

[viscid swift]

I mean sure but I also got a copy of Zwei in like 20 Build Tickets

[void walrus]

it's a gatcha????

[white musk]

the odds are not in your favor
The chances dont magically increase because you pull more times

Its 1.2%

[viscid swift]

Like, the odds aren't so terrible that you need to be able to hit pity for decent returns on your pulls

And Lion is literally the most broken BB in the game and Zwei still one of the strongest

[void walrus]

You could easily get like, 80 medals per event

[abstract hollow]

Ok yeah, we gucci

[viscid swift]

Saying not to pull just because you can't guarantee pity is just stupid

[storm olive]

And for the first time ever, new players actually have some frontloaded cubes, not pulling on a UR would be a waste

[vague oracle]

Hey guys is Regensburg really that bad? Tier 3 it says..

[viscid swift]

Also, the next UR event isn't until September anyway

More than enough time to rebuild stocks

[white musk]

You get 200 or so cubes a month
even without frontloaded cube

A new player should definitely be able to wait for an S tier UR event under normal circumstances before pulling

[viscid swift]

That's still dumb and yes I am aware of the numbers

For one, every UR is good especially new ones but even still some are better than others

For instance Lion is overall a lot better than Raffaello and Fritz Rumey the 2 gacha URs that came before her

You just can't predict what future URs will be like and a 1.2% rate frankly is not that bad and events last 2-3 weeks giving time to build cubes

And as I said earlier, timing also matters

[eager mulch]

[warm trail]

anyone worth getting rn?

[sinful escarp]

bis2

[viscid swift]

The next gacha UR event period probably won't be until September which as I said is ample time to get back up to 400 cubew

[warm trail]

who

[void walrus]

bismark 2

[storm olive]

The rate up UR

[warm trail]

ohh okay2

[white musk]

Your logic checks out
Consider myself learnt, ty for sharing

[viscid swift]

So even if you pull for Zwei now regardless of how much you have and if you get her, it's not going to impact your chances at the next UR

[sinful escarp]

UR pity is only for that banner. you cant save up pity for the next event

[void walrus]

Biscuit 2 is super good tho

[viscid swift]

also just looking at some probablity

The chances of you not getting at least one copy of the UR in 100 pulls is only around 30%

[warped acorn]

bzwei first volley in battle will make geryon seperate from her?

[void walrus]

Yeah

It works like an extra ship

[viscid swift]

And the chances of you needing to hit pity are less than 10%

[warped acorn]

oh so it include summoning that laser strike and orbital strike too

[white musk]

I must be incredibly unlucky lol

[void walrus]

and the black hole

[warped acorn]

nice

[viscid swift]

And yeah, it happens and while I do advocate planning for worst case scenarios, they should not be taken as the only or even the most likely outcome

[warped acorn]

next ur after atleast a month or 2?

[soft raft]

Like mentioned earlier, the next new Gacha UR is highly likely to be in September when JP Anniv happens

[warped acorn]

nice, ima try get those ships from current one then

[dark lotus]

in data sync meta, you can only get 71?

[sharp socket]

up to 75

[viscid swift]

Max is 75

[dark lotus]

so having 71 is good already?

[viscid swift]

Can't remember what the damage cut off is though

[sharp socket]

from my experience if you do 75% of the boss hp you get 75

[dark lotus]

maybe because i can only get it to 80 hahaha

[soft raft]

iirc like 1.6 or 1.7 mill

[dark lotus]

why in yt they can defeat it 😭 me cant even reach 50

[soft raft]

that is simply both a gearing and fleet tech difference
Aka the real endgame, fleet tech farming

[sharp socket]

fleet issue, gear issue, fleet tech issue

[viscid swift]

This meta is a hard gate keep effectively because it wipes your vanguard unless you have eldridge retrofit

[soft raft]

That too

[dark lotus]

wow Eldridge r is stromg? i have but not maxed it

[sharp socket]

good thing youll get eld retro item in like 2 months when it reruns

[ivory pawn]

Why does it feel like that happens more often than not?

[viscid swift]

If you can retrofit her yes, she needs an event limited retrofit item though

[viscid swift]

Ehh not really for the past few metas

[dark lotus]

im having problem now in my dock should i retire my common and rare sakura? my yech in sakura now is lvl 9

[viscid swift]

Vanguard pressure has been relatively low

[small violet]

Hello all. Who do you guys recommend i mlb? Got in total 6 UR bulins

[dark lotus]

I already retrofit her?

[soft raft]

those two things have basically no correlation with eachother
just retire your common rarity fodder

[viscid swift]

Have you culled unnecessary dupes and used bullins yet

[weary gust]

1 shotting METAs has been the hardest content for quite a while now. Some are easier than others but still, only EX Hard modes are even kind of comparable difficulty.

[dark lotus]

whats mlb

[small violet]

Max limit break

[soft raft]

Max Limit Break
IE full stars

[dark lotus]

Yess but my dock now is 310/320

[sharp socket]

vanny

[soft raft]

have you considered buying more dock space?

[dark lotus]

so many ur i hope all like u

[viscid swift]

Bismarck Zwei if you get her then Trafalgar

[dark lotus]

no more gems 😂😂😂

[soft raft]

i stg if you spent that on skins

[odd relic]

Is HMS Vanguard worth UR exchange?

[sharp socket]

you can get 350+ if you only buy dockspace as f2p

[dark lotus]

trafalgar and rafaelo good?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[dreamy blade]

i've been managing this meta without eldridge running z52/ply/jda...but sometimes they still die with ~10secs remaining

[dark lotus]

i guess she good dmg amd heal

[soft raft]

if you already have Shinano yee

[soft raft]

Heal? lmao

[sharp socket]

vanny buffs BBs

[soft raft]

Vanguard isnt a healer at all

[dark lotus]

he dont heal? hahhaha may be i watched wrong vid hahaha

[odd relic]

No New Jersey or Shimakaze?

[small violet]

Lion was the worst in getting so far

And order of priority for mlb be... Zwei>trafalgar>vanguard yeah?

To my understanding, vanguard is the best BB buffer

[soft raft]

oh god AL YT videos
get away from that asap

[dark lotus]

lion no good?

[soft raft]

Heavily powercrept UR BB and got powercrept by Unzen and Ibuki w/ unique aug respectively

[soft raft]

No he means Lion was an absolute pain for him to get

[dark lotus]

i waste 160 pull last even without getting 1

[dark lotus]

oh i see

[viscid swift]

I'd probably to Fritz over Vanny but yeah

[small violet]

Yeah, was a pain to get. 159 pulls

[opaque galleon]

Yeah, but I’d do fritz since vanny’s relevance has been on life support for a while now

When you get Alsace, you just use Alsace instead

[small violet]

Zwei>trafalgar>fritz>vanguard then

[soft raft]

if you have Alsace then yeah Vanguard's been on the edge a bit
but that guy doesnt so it is what it is

[small violet]

No alsace

[opaque galleon]

It’ll be about a year away

[dark lotus]

how to get ur aa gear

i dont know how to get materials in gear lab

[dreamy blade]

gear lab

[viscid swift]

We'll see if you get that far before the JP Anni but something like that

[soft raft]

Farm operation siren to get the materials for gear lab

[small violet]

Alsace will be rerun around... This time next year i think?

[dreamy blade]

by playing operation siren consistently

[viscid swift]

Gear Lab, you get the mats from operation siren

[dark lotus]

i dont get it grrr how to play it

[soft raft]

maybe
Intial run date is not exactly a proper indicator fo rerun date
EX: Shinano event

[viscid swift]

That would be my expectations roughly yes

But shit can happen

[soft raft]

^
Devs have and will switch things around every now and then

[small violet]

True. Alright... I'll try get zwei and then will decide

[soft raft]

like for example still not archiving Emden event despite it supposedly being its turn like 1-2 WAs ago

[viscid swift]

They'll remember it surely/s

[small violet]

Oh and is the community tier list the best site for shipgirl rankings or is there a better one and more up to date?

[soft raft]

yes
they in fact just went over tierings for the stuff that's not on there earlier today

It may take time since alot of the evals are busy IRL, but afaik it's the only well-maintained English TL

[small violet]

Righty

[opaque galleon]

Afaik the en TL is an overall ranking, unlike the CN lists for specific maps and certain content

[viscid swift]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[soft raft]

only for campaign up to at most W13

[dreamy blade]

when did ectl get removed from the terlist command

[hollow gust]

Tf

[viscid swift]

A few weeks back

[dark lotus]

Can someone teach how to op siren hahaha

[hollow gust]

build fleet, clear every square and box

[dreamy blade]

what part of it did you need clarification on exactly

[dark lotus]

do i need to max the star?

[soft raft]

no

[viscid swift]

No

[dreamy blade]

the exploration goals? no

[dark lotus]

how to achieve auto search hahaha

Im watching kimocheese but im still confused hahaha

[storm olive]

Promptly stop

[dark lotus]

what do you mean hahahhaa

[dreamy blade]

you have to finish the initial story section first (up to chapter 5 i believe?)

[dark lotus]

oh i seee

i wanna get ur gears he is using hahaha like wyvern the aa rainbow gun also the bb ur gun

Akso what is the new jersey gun? does she need to equip a specific gun?

[viscid swift]

I could randomly pull any of his videos and point out at least 5 things he's doing wrong

[dreamy blade]

these days AL youtube is notorious for being outdated, incorrect, or both

[small violet]

New jersey gun ia the ur gun that was released during her event, i believe

Same for the musashi gun

[viscid swift]

Yes, the Mk7

[dark lotus]

i think i dont have it

[sweet delta]

kimo is notorious for being outdated, incorrect, and both

[dark lotus]

what name omg does she have huhuhuhu

[storm olive]

The number of accurate and correct al youtubers can be counted on one finger and that finger is suchi

[dark lotus]

my poor musashi i failed to give her gun

[dark lotus]

Suchi? maybe ill try

[sweet delta]

not sure who that is

[dreamy blade]

jimmy slander

[viscid swift]

Not sure who that is either

[dark lotus]

Kimocheese have good voice thou

[viscid swift]

You must be deaf lamo

[small violet]

Eh, i use an sr gun for mushi. Her ur one is stupidly slow

[dark lotus]

what is sushi gun

[viscid swift]

Kimo has the charisma of Bache and Katsuragi

I.e. none

[sweet delta]

unfortunately suchiguma doesnt have new player videos other than the level 65 submarine one

[dark lotus]

i think im a mid gamer? im lvl 102 now just comeback hahaha

thats my ur gears i think i focused to much in cv hahaha

[viscid swift]

That's a little worrying

[dark lotus]

thats why i want to build a gear for bb and aa

[hollow gust]

more like focused on nothing , also why is musashi running that gun

[viscid swift]

The fact you have 2 skyraiders and yet are missing a lot of gear from events that came between those 2

[dark lotus]

i dont knowww huhuhu

[white musk]

Thats a lot of +10 quintuple torps

[dark lotus]

likeee whattt huhuhuhu

[opaque galleon]

What is the optimal order of salvo and flagship allocation for Biszwei, Alsace, Lion when sortied with Trafalgar and Plymouth?

[dark lotus]

Omg i think i wasted too much hahahaha

from your reactions wahhaha

[viscid swift]

Fire Control Table, an Mk7, Mogador Gun among others

[dark lotus]

i just lately knew thag magnetic torps ate more better huhuhu

i dont know where to farm

[opaque galleon]

Alsace, Unzen gun, Guam gun, raffaello gun, etc as well

[sinful escarp]

its fine, i have more of that torps. they are fine its that there is better

[small violet]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_460mm_(Type_94)

[sinful escarp]

also up to what chapter have you cleared?

[dark lotus]

oh i have ittt hahahaha

[storm olive]

12-4 unless there is an event, in which case you farm in event d3

[dark lotus]

event d3?

[sinful escarp]

the last map of hardmode of the event

[dark lotus]

why mine only have t3 and ht3

[sinful escarp]

press the middle

[weary gust]

ht6 = d3

[small violet]

Did you click on the blue icon in the middle.of the event screen?

[dark lotus]

OH I SEEE HAHAHAHA

[dark lotus]

JUST KNEW ANOUT IT HAHAHA

where ca i get this gold gun

this 2 rainbow gears are the good ones?

[sweet delta]

why would you craft a twin 57?

[dark lotus]

is it not good?

[sweet delta]

you need to get your priorities straight before jumping straight into spending highly limited materials

[viscid swift]

The 76mm is better among other things

[sweet delta]

Wyvern should be the first UR gear you get from gear lab

[dark lotus]

is that good for my shinano?

mob fleet is for escort fleet right?

[dark lotus]

what does it look like hahaha

[opaque galleon]

🐸

[opaque galleon]

Is there an answer to this?

[dark lotus]

AHHH!! the blue one!!

[dark lotus]

this one right?

[dark lotus]

gosh hahaha im wrong

[hollow gust]

Lion is always flag, and for timing having a close sync is more important then salvo order

especially when two of the ships have extra mount gimmick

[opaque galleon]

What about Alsace buff and biszwei black hole? Don’t these abilities want to be procced first to maximize damage?

Alsace flag is also good I think

You also really want your flag to fire first because Trafalgar buff

[hollow gust]

Why would you not flag your best BB when Plymouth is around

[opaque galleon]

Maximizing Alsace buff uptime and Trafalgar buff uptime

Biszwei also wanted to fire first before Lion and Trafalgar dropped

[atomic abyss]

Those are not as important as Plymouth buff

Ideally yes you would want them to fire first

But not at the cost of lion losing Plymouth buff

[wind hazel]

is this kawaM fight?

alsace flag isn't as bad tbh lol

[opaque galleon]

Yesnt

[hollow gust]

And Alsace flag is a fuck ton less consistent then flagging Lion

[sweet delta]

cap

[wind hazel]

lion flag you get this. alsace flag you get this, but lion tend to do more damage more than half of the time

both are 100% kill rate

in the end who flag for me it didn't matter

[hollow gust]

Tell that to my +10 HE gun, Lion flag is kinda needed

[wind hazel]

100% if eldridge doesn't die early like a bitch*

[sweet delta]

then that's a you issue, of course you'd need to flag lion with +13 gun

[dark lotus]

is that le malin?

[wind hazel]

no

[atomic abyss]

What no

[dark lotus]

plymouth?

[storm olive]

What auxes are you running on her

[atomic abyss]

Eldridge, Trafalgar, Plymouth

[opaque galleon]

Who tf looks like lemalin to you

[wind hazel]

manjuu elite and usb stick

[dark lotus]

plymouth hahahah

[wind hazel]

true plymouth is just grown up version of le malin

[storm olive]

Oh, I've been running manjuu pearl

[dark lotus]

SEEEEEE

[weary gust]

Arizona and Penn look similar in chibi form. Le Mal and Plym look nothing alike in any form.

[dark lotus]

whats speacial in ply mouth

[wind hazel]

im memeing btw

[hollow gust]

how tf does plmmy compare to the French hussy

[dark lotus]

I dont have lion and that alace?

[wind hazel]

2 shot

[dark lotus]

can i use musashi and ulrich or new jersey instead?

is rafaelo good?

[wind hazel]

t w o s h o t

[atomic abyss]

For 2 shot yes

[hollow gust]

Raffey will be better then Ulrich and Nj

[wind hazel]

cap, i bet UVH will be better

[sweet delta]

you have raffaello but not her gun? 💀

[storm olive]

How many bars is it for max points from assist?

[dark lotus]

Like it is launching the main then a follow up? what is salvo btw

[sweet delta]

70%

[atomic abyss]

2 shot as in
You need 2 tries to kill it

[dark lotus]

whats her gun? i quit in her banner then comeback last banner

[wind hazel]

two shot as in that fleet will not 1shot and 2shot to kill

[storm olive]

Oh neat I just barely get that

[hollow gust]

Not likely with damage contribution, not to mention the kawakaze mechanics

[wind hazel]

have you tested

[dark lotus]

Sorry i can’t understand

[hollow gust]

Don't need to test your fleet dying without elridge

[storm olive]

Do you have Eldridge retrofit @dark lotus

[dark lotus]

yeah

[wind hazel]

If you use musashi and NJ, you won't be able to kill KawakazeMETA in a single attempt, it won't deal enough damage. You will require 2 attempts at least to kill her.

[opaque galleon]

Flagging alsace in the kawaM fight when using Rumey brings her buff uptime for vanguards up by 50%, as well as her buff uptime for Lion, since you buff 3 volleys, up from 2, and additionally buffs barrages. I think this should represent around a 6% buff for your fleet besides Rumey, so I do think there is a strong case for Alsace flag over Lion

[wind hazel]

tf you talking about eldridge. we're talking about raff vs uvh

[dark lotus]

AHHHAAAA, wait you can continue on killing it, for example i already make to 70% then the next fight kawakazes life bar will start in 70%?

[hollow gust]

We have to talk about it since it's for kawakaze fight?

[wind hazel]

eldridge isn't getting changed

[atomic abyss]

I feel like there's 3 different discussions going on right now

[storm olive]

Raff survivability buffs are a consideration when doing the fight without Eldridge, they do have eldkai though

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

oh so you do raff without eldridge, ok fine that's on me

[atomic abyss]

Well

[wind hazel]

sorry i dont use useless UR so idk the mechanics that much

[atomic abyss]

For what it's worth

Jimmy did show a 100% win comp with Rafaello

But obviously that assumes a lot of other things like tech

Regardless, it definitely can work

[turbid patrol]

guys what's type 1 ap shell

[atomic abyss]

Core data shop, the white colour shell

[sweet delta]

With raffaello and Eldridge?

[wind hazel]

bozo

so eldridge isn't getting changed after all. so much for Bruhing me

[turbid patrol]

alr ty

[wind hazel]

even jimmy flagging alsace wow JIMMY WhY nOt FlAg BeSt BB LiOn???

[sharp furnace]

Hey guys new to Azur lane, and want to ask if gear lab resets enhance level? about to make my first gear lab item

[opaque galleon]

Is that chappy?

[wind hazel]

yeah

[atomic abyss]

Yes but you get some of the resources used back

[opaque galleon]

For Eva rate debuff?

[white musk]

Does eldridge invincibility have some sort of synergy with Raff?

[wind hazel]

idk, i dont use raff

[atomic abyss]

It's more of

The general issue with kawaM is the "actually surviving to the end"

Cos the vanguard need to be alive to inflict their debuffs

[opaque galleon]

Raff heals the lowest health vanguard and Eldridge can make that healing feel like a lot more survivablility

[atomic abyss]

Eldridge and Rafaello fix those issues

Cos even with Eldridge you can't guarantee full vanguard survivability

[sweet delta]

But I can have partial vanguard survivability in 99.99% of tries

[whole crypt]

you can use durable vanguards but then your DPS dies

[white musk]

seems kinda niche
What situation would this comp be useful compared to other things?

[atomic abyss]

It is niche

[whole crypt]

oneshotting showdowns

[soft raft]

nowhere else
META fight comps are hyper specific to the current fight

[opaque galleon]

This is literally only for this fight

[atomic abyss]

But most meta showdown comps are niche lol

[whole crypt]

not only this one, but showdowns whenever vanguard pressure is high

[atomic abyss]

That said
This would be especially useful for players who started around Rafaello event

[opaque galleon]

though maybe you always flag Alsace over Lion

[sweet delta]

Unfortunately, those new players don't have Eldridge

[atomic abyss]

I mean they wouldn't have Napoli either

So it'll help keep the vg alive longer regardless

[sweet delta]

Yeah they just have zero chance of oneshotting

[whole crypt]

they can have eldridge just not retrofit

[atomic abyss]

Thank you captain obvious...

That's not the point

Rafaello may bring them to a 2 shot

[whole crypt]

my CN account is a 6-7 shot

[sweet delta]

I thought the point started here

[atomic abyss]

Your CN account that started a month ago

[whole crypt]

yes with new server boost
new players now are probably not killing it within 10 shots without assist and barrage

[analog phoenix]

What kind of situation i shall put zwei on my team ?

[whole crypt]

BB bossing, or if you don't have a better BB

[opaque galleon]

Zwei let’s your BBs have 100% accuracy

[analog phoenix]

Who i shall replace ? F alsace soyuz lion

[white musk]

I love watching zwei nuke boss healthbars with the first crit

[opaque galleon]

It’s an exaggeration

[whole crypt]

I'd probably replace Soyuz for that one

[atomic abyss]

Replace Soyuz

So Soyuz can be best friends with Nakhimov

[analog phoenix]

Thanks you yall

[grizzled sundial]

Is Kazan worth to invest in ?

[weary gust]

If you don't have any other SR BBs she is okay.

[atomic abyss]

Good SR BB
But she's not a UR so uh
Depends

[opaque galleon]

Kazan is raffaello lite

[grizzled sundial]

I mean , if it about tackling boss , i have dedicated fleet for that , but i have too many Purin so i have to dump them somewhere and this Kazan caught me attention for being able to heal , for a BB .

[atomic abyss]

Well here's my question to you

Do you have 2 UR BBs at max stars?

If yes you can ignore Kazan entirely

[opaque galleon]

I think uni should take care of all your healing needs until you get to w14/15

Shouldn’t really be a reason to need to use Kazan

[grizzled sundial]

Keep running Uni and Perseus is boring...

[atomic abyss]

Kazan is not replacing either as a healer so

[opaque galleon]

And Kazan isn’t super survivable in 14/15 anyways

[whole crypt]

sadly gameplay is boring

[atomic abyss]

My point is

[soft raft]

The super cracked healer has no equal dang that's crazy

[wind oxide]

Kazan is just a mid BB

[atomic abyss]

If you already have 2 UR BBs raised
You won't have much use for Kazan in terms of clearing

[whole crypt]

just level her if you want to, or if you need to find something to do

[atomic abyss]

HOWEVER

[opaque galleon]

Fleet tech

[atomic abyss]

She is very good for grinding low level shit precisely because of her skill set

[grizzled sundial]

Do people even do W14 15 daily or just clearing Opsi and event stage .

[whole crypt]

12-1 and OS

[opaque galleon]

No, 14 and 15 suck for coins and xp

[whole crypt]

event when there's event

[opaque galleon]

You don’t even get to grind xp since you almost need maxed ships

[atomic abyss]

I mean the thing is

If you're just levelling shit for grinding coins

Then anything works lol

It doesn't have to be Kazan specifically

[whole crypt]

if what you're leveling isn't too shit you don't even need heals for 12-1 anyway

[worldly lion]

Can someone share the link where I can make a thread for opsi fleet recommendation? Thanks

[viscid swift]

Just create your own thread here

[opaque galleon]

And there isn’t really any saving the shittiest of fleet tech shitters without preloaded healing

[wind oxide]

just look up

[young terrace]

should i replace jeanne with guichen. jeanne currently is at the frontline for my french fleet aka my 5th fleet?

[dreamy blade]

why do you have 5 fleets

[sweet delta]

No clue and we don't need to see the pictures to know

[weary gust]

1. No.
2. You don't need 5 fleets.
3. Faction fleets bad.

[viscid swift]

Yeah sure

[whole crypt]

for a start faction fleet sucks
and we don't even know what else you have in the fleet to compare

if your other ships are really flimsy JdA is keeping them alive, but if they're holding up then Guichen is stronger

[grizzled sundial]

Ok , since i almost have enough tech points for Soviet green cat , i will grind Kazan .

[hollow gust]

You can literally farm 12-1 with just garbage shitters, at a decent level they can one fleet

[opaque galleon]

I know it’s my fault but that is highkey (the opposite of) what I do. Just +6 throwaway toolbox with no gear and pray for crossfleets and preloads to carry

[whole crypt]

I carry because otherwise I have no ships to bring anyway

[weary gust]

The only fleets I have ever had fail 12-4 grinding are the purple china ships. Worse than most commons.

[sweet delta]

That's not the same as what cheeky is doing

[whole crypt]

but I leveled Chinese shitter in 12-1 using just Chen Hai as carrier

[white musk]

They're squishy as hell, but their rocket damage is insane on light armor

[sweet delta]

He's giving vanguard MVP

[weary gust]

No, the DDGs are good. I mean the elites without retros.

[whole crypt]

that's a main fleet DDG

[white musk]

ohhh

[viscid swift]

I only degeared the main fleet so fhey don't steal mvp, Vanguard is fully equipped

[opaque galleon]

Ah, then that’s the opposite of what I do lmao

[whole crypt]

elite without retrofits are fine

[sweet delta]

With 5 rainbow gear each

[viscid swift]

Like so

[opaque galleon]

I’m just lazy

[whole crypt]

I'm lazy too

[white musk]

A meagre 800 trp stat

[weary gust]

In general yes. I meant ships like Ying Swei, Hai Tien, Chao Ho, Hai Chi, Hai Yung. They are some of the worst ships in the game, just garbage at everything.

[sweet delta]

I found them decent

[viscid swift]

They are not worse than rare IJN torp DDs

[whole crypt]

I did say I leveled Chinese shitters with Chen Hai as my only carrier

[weary gust]

Weak, low hp, useless skills, bad stats, bad mounts. They consistently died on 12-4 under the same circumstances that literally every other ship in the game did fine with.

[late flame]

-9999 social credits

[whole crypt]

and yes when I said shitters I do mean YingSwei, Chao Ho, Hai TIen and Hai Chi

[sweet delta]

/ehp

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

List of vanguard ships by tankiness by mebot

[limpid elk]

At least they have cool designs

[viscid swift]

Aren't you done with main fleets anyway

[opaque galleon]

Curse whoever posted the rld breakpoints for single 113 gun video, for making me give a shit about rare IJN torp DDs

[viscid swift]

Hey if I can make Vampire main tank the Chinese ships are fine lamo

[whole crypt]

not when I was leveling Chen Hai, I can't remember what I threw in with her but it definitely wasn't other carriers

[viscid swift]

Not you, Kasic

[whole crypt]

[viscid swift]

Vampire has 1k hp, also shit in every way, like the lowest ehp excluding bullins

[whole crypt]

well I'm post chip-scarcity now so

[weary gust]

I am done with main fleets. Back when I was running the above mentioned ships though I was not, and my training fleets were all ~100-105 for the most part. Only the fleets that were predominantly the purple china ships struggled, no other fleets I ever used had troubles.

[sweet delta]

It's

[viscid swift]

She also main tanked with 2 oxy torps

[whole crypt]

Vampire isn't even in the bottom 10

[viscid swift]

In 12-1 just fine

[atomic abyss]

Do remember vampire can actually heal

That's why she doesn't appear at the bottom bottom

[whole crypt]

whatever the reason ask mebot but Vampire isn't even in the bottom 100

[late flame]

🧛

[atomic abyss]

She does have extremely low base HP tho

Cheeky is correct

She can heal but has no offensive skills in return iirc

[weary gust]

Most of the ships I mentioned are below vampire on ehp, at a glance.

[atomic abyss]

Sigh

Think about it this way

[whole crypt]

gear issue

(skill) issue

[atomic abyss]

If your frail shit like say Chicago
Can still pump out a ton of damage
And end the battle earlier

[atomic abyss]

You'd take less dmg to begin with

[white musk]

Community tier list says this about vampire
"Vampire is a destroyer with low damage and poor survivability. Her vampiric barrage does not provide impactful healing either for her or the rest of the vanguard."

[viscid swift]

Suffice to say most fights don't last 35 seconds

[sweet delta]

Level 1 skill

[viscid swift]

At least for me

[whole crypt]

most fights shouldn't last more than 35s

[atomic abyss]

Mebot's calcs assume max skill ofc

Which probably help it a bit

In terms of eHP

[whole crypt]

I have tonnes of skills left to level but they're lv120 fodder

[atomic abyss]

It wouldn't help it end the battle faster lol

[viscid swift]

Anyway, there are ways to mitigate this

Including but not limited to not leveling all of then at the same time

Cross fleets

Using a repair ships

[rapid summit]

Can ships mood increase when they’re not in battle or do I need to retreat them?

[opaque galleon]

After DD rld tech, is there any other tech that I remotely care about?

I’ve done most of them already

[whole crypt]

they regen all the time but the update can be wonky and you may have to relog

[atomic abyss]

Passively at all times 20/h outside dorm

[whole crypt]

also if not in dorm it's just really slow

[opaque galleon]

All that’s left is like dd trp and hp

[viscid swift]

May as well do torp and hit

[rapid summit]

Alr thanks

[viscid swift]

I'm doing DD Eva after I finish DD accuracy

[whole crypt]

should be done in a week or two, depending on dorm food

[wind hazel]

next is power fleeting

[weary gust]

I just throw in whatever random ship happens to be at the top of the list of the "not max level" sort, after having done all the important tech.

[viscid swift]

Nah, getting everyone to 125

[whole crypt]

they don't give enough arrays

I doubt there's enough even if you 💳

[viscid swift]

Yes that was sarcasm, can still bank XP though

[whole crypt]

I'll probably go back to check on lv120 oaths and bump them to 125 though

[opaque galleon]

I’d just 125 all the PR ships since they’ll eventually get augments

[misty tree]

how do i get out of here?

[misty tree]

thank you

[whole crypt]

XP packs assuming the augment actually makes them useful (enough)

[tawdry halo]

Alright, so, what now? I beaten normal Arbiter

[whole crypt]

beat hard arbiter

[tawdry halo]

I'm incapable of that

like, severely incapable

dmg progress doesnt save for hardmode arbiter

[whole crypt]

you can still try if you haven't gotten the earlier damage milestones

[swift hornet]

what do you get for beating hard arbitor, just gold plates?

[wicked obsidian]

Is there any Pic or Guide on Which ship gives the most Tech Points ??

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[tawdry halo]

fuck it I ball

time to see if I can get to 75% at least

[wicked obsidian]

I dont even know who's name is what...Gonna be hard sorting through this..but Tnx

[atomic abyss]

Higher rarity backline ships give the most

[gaunt cedar]

how am i supposed to clear lvl 5 corrosion in opsi? do i first need good gear lab

[atomic abyss]

Research ships also give more

[tawdry halo]

ok I only managed to get to 75% of Arbiter's HP bar with 4 fleets

[atomic abyss]

Corrosion 5 what
Regular nodes?
Or abyssals

[gaunt cedar]

i cant do either

[atomic abyss]

What are your 3 adapts looking like

[gaunt cedar]

is it good idea to go for those stat boost nodes

[tawdry halo]

I'm completly incapable of beating hardmode arbiter for now. All 4 fleets only did as much as 25%

[forest jasper]

its fine

[tawdry halo]

at least I got the reward

[forest jasper]

hard arbiter rewards is way worse than regular anyway

[atomic abyss]

That shd be enough for c5 exploration nodes

Unless your mob fleet is that week

[gaunt cedar]

[tawdry halo]

at least she looks better than current month's challenge mode bosses

[forest jasper]

as long u do the monthly regular arby is all good

[atomic abyss]

C5 exploration nodes are easy lol

Abyssals I can understand

[gaunt cedar]

thanks though

[atomic abyss]

Strongholds I can understand

You absolutely don't need gear lab gear

[gaunt cedar]

maybe i went to abyss i didnt know there were different ones

[atomic abyss]

Just need, passable poverty gear

Abyssal are the red + monster logo ones

[tawdry halo]

so, since I beaten normal Arbiter and only managed to deal 25% dmg to hard Arbiter, do I just slack off and swipe the sectors around for loots and call it a month?

[forest jasper]

just do c5

and repeat pretty much

[tawdry halo]

I already wiped all c6, c5 and c4 sectors

[viscid swift]

Do all the explorables

Clear all the abyssals, hidden modes, strong holds, and daily missions

And dump the remaining AP into repeating secured modes

[tawdry halo]

How do I find more strongholds, I already wiped them clean too

[wild sinew]

Where to get more of these rainbow paper again

[viscid swift]

One will appear every Monday

Operation Siren

[tawdry halo]

ahh, save me the trouble then

[viscid swift]

And also clean the OpSi shops of what you need

[wild sinew]

Yea like from which? Except from shop

Is the arbiter fight? Or lv6 whirpool node?

[viscid swift]

You get one from regular Arbiter, the rest are RNG drops

This is why you should do everything

In OpSi

[wild sinew]

Always running out of aa rainbow paper

[viscid swift]

Meh, you don't need that many

[whole crypt]

you do if you wasted your life away making french AA

design plans 💸

[viscid swift]

Yeah....

[wicked obsidian]

Hay Does this Cat LODGE give enough buff....or just for show ??

[viscid swift]

What

[wicked obsidian]

the Cat things Catttery

[whole crypt]

which part of it
cats themselves have a tiny stat bonus, a skill and talents that can add more stats

[wicked obsidian]

These guys

[whole crypt]

yeh if you have 2 good cats it's easily around 10+% boost to your fleet

[wicked obsidian]

Oww...it doesn't make a lot of difference in stat right?

[whole crypt]

depends on what's on the cat

[viscid swift]

A good meowffucer is a non negligible buff but good cats are not cheap or easy to get

[wicked obsidian]

Is there UR cats ?

[whole crypt]

no

it depends on the talents you get on the cat which is random

[plucky ice]

what are the ideal talents

[wicked obsidian]

Is there a guide for it ???

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[wicked obsidian]

Ok..Tnx

[warped acorn]

does resetting meowfficers talent lv also changes the ur talents

[whole crypt]

if your cat started with it no
if your cat got it with level ups yes

[warped acorn]

alr

[whole crypt]

it's why we don't recommend seriously rerolling a cat until you have one that starts with the good unique or UR talents

[unique lantern]

just to confirm mlb zwei>lion, right?

[whole crypt]

no

[unique lantern]

[whole crypt]

Lion is literally the DPS ceiling now, but Zwei gives you better accuracy so it depends on what you need

[unique lantern]

tbh idk what i need, im the next 2 reruns away from having every UR and around half a year away from mlbing all of them

[whole crypt]

what's the best shot for surviving KawaM if no Eldridge retrofit, Raffaelo or Napoli

[wind oxide]

Mogador?

[unique lantern]

is it possible to one cycle kawam?

[whole crypt]

oneshot yes and most comps that do currently use Lion

[viscid swift]

Yes

[unique lantern]

alright im mlbing lion, had a double pull of her anyways

oh i have all those units usually im missing like an SR or meta ship

[whole crypt]

mogador isn't that durable, and the oldest UR I have is Lion

[unique lantern]

new account :oo ? thought youve been around for ages

[atomic abyss]

He made a new one

[wind oxide]

He started yesterday

[whole crypt]

1 month old CN account

[atomic abyss]

Anyways anchorage lol

Anchorage smoke shd also helo with vanguard survival a bit

[whole crypt]

[atomic abyss]

...Neptune w/aug

Or Bayard

[whole crypt]

leveling Neptune now just have to wait I guess

[atomic abyss]

Tho I think heavy armour tanks would do the best

[wind oxide]

Bayard is a looooong way

[atomic abyss]

Bayard doesn't need that much tech tbf

[whole crypt]

except there's also not a lot of french tech around

[atomic abyss]

No luck with Agir?

Since bis2 rerun and upcoming German event

[whole crypt]

haven't gotten BisZwei yet and won't have bulins to LB for tech anyway

[tawdry halo]

is that Bismarck OST playing in the small screen

[wind oxide]

sabaton

[whole crypt]

reliving the pains of a new player

[unique lantern]

Which gun would i give lion for kawam?

[unique lantern]

[tawdry halo]

Another fellow Sabaton fan

[stark quiver]

hmm whys your ss bigger

[whole crypt]

because I opened the pic before screenshotting

[wind oxide]

resize perhaps

[tawdry halo]

resolution enhance

or quality enhance idk

[wind oxide]

nah it's zoom

[viscid swift]

No, that's Drachinifel debunking the myth of Bismarck repairing her rudders

[unique lantern]

Anything else i should change?

[wind oxide]

the AA

[tawdry halo]

+1 to my naval documentary, thank you

[unique lantern]

staag?

[wind oxide]

If you have

[unique lantern]

wait crap my rumey isnt mlb

[wind oxide]

||I personally +13 the FC and white shell and use the FP AA instead
just me||

[viscid swift]

Even with both +13 Stagg would still be better

[wind oxide]

I get more damage so...

[wind hazel]

hitting is more damage

[wind oxide]

Well it still hits and wanted to contribute the rest for the burn

[stark quiver]

you get lucky and get more damage

[wind hazel]

the burn is two digit difference...

[unique lantern]

Im confused about what im supposed to +13 but ive got the staag

[wind hazel]

no table?

[unique lantern]

what table

[wind hazel]

UR rainbow aux

[stark quiver]

+13 staag is useless really for the fight

[stark quiver]

i thought u said sux

[unique lantern]

oh thats on alsace

[wind hazel]

/wiki admiral table

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1143543674471460866.webp?size=56

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Admiralty_Fire_Control_Table

[unique lantern]

ye its on alsace, swap them around?

[wind hazel]

nah it's fine

+13 gun and auxes if you can afford to

[unique lantern]

dont have the parts for +13 gun

[stark quiver]

just go with that for now then

[turbid patrol]

should i try to get 1 more copy of zwei for the last limitbreak

[late flame]

no

[turbid patrol]

alr

[unique lantern]

damn does +13 gun make such a difference? my lion is only dealing 300k

[viscid swift]

18% more damage from that gun

[stark quiver]

18% more damage

[unique lantern]

Aight, thanks can now guarantee a 2 shot instead of a 3-4 shot, dont need a replacement since i aint hitting the oneshot with my gear, ill just keep rumey in

[viscid swift]

Uhhhhhh

No idea why you would even consider a 0 limit break ship for this

[unique lantern]

i mean i just wanted to see lions damage my first choice would have been a vanny since 2 bbs

but since i aint hitting that oneshot threshold it doesnt matter tho, right?

[viscid swift]

But Fritz does nothing to contribute to that, she only exists to deal damage herself

[viscid swift]

I mean for one is Alsace running an Autoloader, she should also be Flag not Lion

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

You also could very well one shot

[unique lantern]

-# what does alsace flag even do again, too much text me confusio

[viscid swift]

Even if you need some luck but you've fucked your fleet so hard you've guaranteed failure there

[stark quiver]

firing order and proccing trafalgar

[unique lantern]

wym firing order, unless they have the exact same firing speed position wouldnt change that, right?

[sweet delta]

fellas i dont think his fritz would do 700k dmg even if mlb

[viscid swift]

Is your Alsace running an Autoloader plus fire control radar yes or no

[wind oxide]

even with Bismarck and peter?

[unique lantern]

no loader

[stark quiver]

those 2 are ass tho, why would you do that

[viscid swift]

Run a loader, only way Alsace gets 5 salvos

[wind oxide]

he's tryna get the 700k on fritz

[stark quiver]

theyre trying to one shot, not cuck their damage to the ground

[viscid swift]

Suchi has actually done a one shot with that set up

[stark quiver]

max tech and investment?
not surprised

[unique lantern]

Who instead of rumey then

[viscid swift]

Of course

[stark quiver]

id take vanguard

[viscid swift]

Vanguard

[stark quiver]

throw on a mk6 for her

[unique lantern]

so i was right, still doubt its even remotely close to a oneshot

[stark quiver]

its not, but itll do more damage

[sweet delta]

Replace z52 with Helena and get 4 scans

[stark quiver]

[atomic abyss]

You won't get a 1 shot with the numbers you're currently getting on Lion/Als

[slender linden]

anyone have a recommendation for the next stage

Im already struggling on the current one

[sweet delta]

Farm 12-1 for exp

[late flame]

get better gear

[stark quiver]

or you can grind uhh event

[sweet delta]

Or the event

[viscid swift]

Park in 12-1 for a bit and sort out the fleet

[slender linden]

I have 3k oil left I used up everything including the ones in the event

[late flame]

touch grass maybe

[sweet delta]

So what

[unique lantern]

wait but if i give alsace the loader my vanny wont be able to buff her

[slender linden]

look at this abomination

[stark quiver]

why?

[slender linden]

theres a storm outside

[unique lantern]

because vanny needs to shoot first, right?

[viscid swift]

Why aren't you using Unicorn

[slender linden]

I forgot she exists

[sweet delta]

That's an abomination all right

[late flame]

lol no airspace control

[viscid swift]

Also tip

Don't try and level ships while pushing content

[wind oxide]

that tashkent skin tho

[viscid swift]

It's just stupid

[slender linden]

I dont even have planes for her

[warped acorn]

that unicorn aa

[slender linden]

I havent used her for months I think

[viscid swift]

What are these fleets even

[slender linden]

I stole her AA gun and gave it to Lion

[warped acorn]

noice 👏

[viscid swift]

Did you even try to consolidate your highest levels ships at least yikes

[slender linden]

it looks like a dump of old ships

[unique lantern]

yeee my alsace firing speed is 19s with loader and my vanny has 20.4s, idk if loader is still better than type 1 ap shell if i have to drop the buff for it

[viscid swift]

Just park in 12-1, you have a lot of work to do

[atomic abyss]

The solution is simple
Make vanny faster as well

The whole point is that you want to get another salvo off lol

[viscid swift]

You do realize in game reload display doesn't account for reload buffs from skills righr?

[atomic abyss]

Also that

[slender linden]

Imma try to finish 12 I want my Shimakaze skin

[rapid grail]

near max warkai. he is pvp ready /s

[atomic abyss]

Beth please.

[viscid swift]

It's permanent, just wait

[rapid grail]

wait you aren't spending your gems on dock space at the very least???

[unique lantern]

i just dont know how much it would end up giving

[viscid swift]

Then use a calculator rather than guessing sheesh

[atomic abyss]

/calc exists for a reason

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Calculator for precise fleet reload times by mrlar