gameplay-help

[teal ice]

just pick a random word

[atomic abyss]

no random gifs/images please

[ionic aurora]

Any prediction when eldridge retrofit mat gonna be available again?

[soft raft]

at this point I think the guy is trolling on puprose

[soft raft]

Possibly this august

[ionic aurora]

Amazing, thank you

[meager tiger]

have bilibili bros come up with the best kawakaze meta fleet?

[atomic abyss]

maybe

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message
what we've come up with

[nova crane]

im trying to exp farm for sardegna/northern parliament research, might aswell farm exp for ship, anyone know which ship is worth using?

[vale spindle]

the 2 gold cls for sure

[nova crane]

mmm

[atomic abyss]

talinn and voro

[vale spindle]

the purples are not that worth so only use them if you have to
the gold cas are good but not as worth to level as the gold cls

[atomic abyss]

giuseppe too ig

[vale spindle]

giuseppe should be front and center cause +2 cl fp

[nova crane]

i see i see thanks guys

[viscid swift]

I would do Guiseppe, Pola, and Voroshilov or Oleg

Tallinn is CA HP tech

[nova crane]

ya

[vale spindle]

oleg is cl hit

its basically just guiseppe > voro > pola > tallinn (cause tallinn good even if tech is shit) >>>> rest (not good + shit tech)

[atomic abyss]

uh

[viscid swift]

CL hit isn't that bad

[nova crane]

mmm

[viscid swift]

Also Pola is CA hit

[atomic abyss]

remind me how halford plane compare to 2x500lb fighters

[meager tiger]

tallinn good cuz

[nova crane]

[meager tiger]

so basically just run UR bb with rumey and UR dd frontline and minmax gear

[vale spindle]

wait i thought she was ca fp rip

[rigid onyx]

at a purely probabilistic question it's 60 samples if you want a 95% confidence interval

and like 30 for a 90%

10 is crazy to me

[crisp estuary]

I missed the three URs. Which one was the worst one I could have missed? (Aka who was the closest one to a must-have)

[tame jungle]

lion

[soft raft]

Three?

[crisp estuary]

Lion, the new hull type(?), and the gun

[soft raft]

Ah you included the Gun as UR
Lion > Trafalgar > Lion gun id say

[eager mulch]

what new hull type

[crisp estuary]

Trafalgar says she's a battle destroyer in her shop. Not just destroyer.

[viscid swift]

She's a Battle class Destroyer

[crisp estuary]

[lyric stump]

@atomic abyss i made it

Helena powaaaaa

U dont need be tech tryhard, u just need be lucky

[meager tiger]

lion skin

[forest palm]

[cobalt gate]

i do wonder if a +13 goldenburn is better than +10 toolbox just from survability standpoint

so for low oil front row, i just keep 1 manhan and z20 right? or z21

does z52 make aurora survive longer or something

[lyric stump]

Sooooo barely huh

[slow fox]

This is just math. Other folks in here are telling me that HMSReport is better than toolkit. I'm trying to figure out why.

[cobalt gate]

which item is the hms report

[slow fox]

Albion Exercise

[tame jungle]

(available for core data)

[cobalt gate]

i think they said kawa hits do dmg based on max hp, although i'm not sure if max hp includes hp from equipment

[slow fox]

I didn't read her skills

[cobalt gate]

so if i was to compare goldburn +13 vs toolkit +10 how would i plug it in?

[slow fox]

It looks like her slashes are special attacks that deal %HP damage

[slow fox]

Did you want to compare Plymouth goldburn13 rudder vs Plumouth toolkit10 rudder?

[cobalt gate]

the sword slashes

aurora

after my runs its basically aurora dying causes me to lose the small amount of dmg needed. haven't lost if she doesn't die

[sweet delta]

Those folks are claiming it for various bosses besides kawakaze. I say it's surely better than toolkit against kawakaze.

[slow fox]

mutsukishrug

The math doesn't check out. I think we're being victims of some higher variance phenomenon

[slow fox]

Here's her HP. Top is 10Toolkit.

Bottom is +13goldburn.

[cobalt gate]

So slightly better for kawa

[slow fox]

Sorry, are we suggesting that lower maxHP is better in survivability vs Kawakaze META because of her slashes?

[cobalt gate]

People are saying the evasion is more useful due to the gimmick of how max hp is affected by slash

[slow fox]

Does Kawakaze META deal any other damage, or are her slashes the primary threat?

[cobalt gate]

Well if equipment hp is part of max hp

Slashes. They just become faster cooldown in between as hp lower

[slow fox]

I see. Eventually, it becomes her entire damage distribution.

[sweet delta]

higher eva rate is better

[slow fox]

Okay. Just focus on EVARate. That makes more sense than focusing on maxHP.

Maybe I'll throw out Eldridge Jervis Janus fleet or something

testing™️

[cobalt gate]

i see. Was getting less death with golden burn but could just be variance

[balmy matrix]

What's the armor of the current arby?

[cobalt gate]

The 5% is 119*0.5 right? So 6 more Eva? Or does it include equipment or is it just 5% dodge rate in general

[slow fox]

5% from where?

[slow fox]

Heavy

[cobalt gate]

From the hms equipment

[slow fox]

It adds 5% to dodge rate in general.

[cobalt gate]

Wait that’s much better than I thought

[slow fox]

Indeed, extremely. It skips over the 1/(1+x) regular portion of evasion and just gives 5%. Very strong on tanks that are close to the EVARate cap.

[onyx chasm]

This worth getting?

And what about this?

[hollow gust]

You won't find a use for Helena skin for a while , that can wait

[cobalt gate]

Saratoga skill probably best out of them

[onyx chasm]

Is bremerton better than z23? Cuz I wanna replace her so I can max out the amount of exp im getting for anchorage

[tame jungle]

are you in w12 yet
z23 provides no xp to anchorage cdc so...

[onyx chasm]

I'm omw to it

I'm at the start of w11

[strange path]

Is Helena used enough in later content to consider oathing ?

[dreamy blade]

Wheres Helena?

[onyx chasm]

fleet 2

[soft raft]

yes (to the used enough in later content part) tho just oath whoever's your waifu
tatical oathing is a waste of time for F2P

[undone zinc]

Are event ships good in general? Is it worth to level up them or should i focus on the more permanent ones?

[little tree]

Anything that gives rld tech

[soft raft]

In both cases it varies more on how good a specific ship is
tho in terms of events, it's safe to say
UR always pog
SR is on average pretty good if not decent
Elite is mainly collection fodder

[weary gust]

Case by case basis.

[dreamy blade]

Just swap her with z23 then

[undone zinc]

Are the Black Rock collab ships good for a main fleet?

[dreamy blade]

Brs is good, dm is meh

[soft raft]

Black Rock yes
the other one not so much

[undone zinc]

What should I keep my eye out for in order to determinate if a ship is good or just mediocre?

[ornate narwhal]

How should I pull when Zwei gets here? Like just do daily pulls using tix and pray?

[dreamy blade]

you can always check this chat since that's kindof a complicated topic https://youtu.be/HgTFF6HCzcc?si=lsPsiRmpALggEprD

[sinful escarp]

skills, barrage patterns, barrage dmg. a lot of things, but just ask here in this chat

thats what this channel is for anyways. help players about gameplay

[undone zinc]

😄

What ship should i buy from the SR guild shop?

[dreamy blade]

things you can easily identify are stuff like gun/plane efficiencies and stats, skills can be a bit harder to judge, barrages need to be tested

[dreamy blade]

they are all for collection/tech after uni and helena

[sinful escarp]

aside from unicorn and helena no one else

[undone zinc]

What is gun/plane efficiency?

[undone zinc]

ok o7

[dreamy blade]

The % number next to the gear slot on their equip page, basically acts as a dmg multiplier

[undone zinc]

😮

[viscid swift]

<@&460646206851252224> scam

[pseudo hearth]

Quick question, doing the XP farm for Daisen, and one of my backline ships is Houshou, since I need to get her to 120 anyway, but I’m running into the problem of her dying on auto clear about 4 or 5 battles in. Is there something I can do to remedy this? This is on 12-4 Auto Clear Safe

[harsh gust]

main threat on 12-4 are planes, so you prolly don't have enough AA
or she's just massively underleveled

[soft raft]

and/or the other ships arent high enough lvl to compensate for Houshou's lack of them

[viscid swift]

what level is she?

[pseudo hearth]

108

The other two backline are about 115

[viscid swift]

probably getting burned down by Kongos then, stick a fire extinguisher on her

[pseudo hearth]

Alright, gonna try that thanks

Seemingly has fixed the issue, but I’ll have to do the stage a few more times to be certain.

[hybrid forge]

considering a KMS fleet in OpSi, and whether Strasser with the augment plays a role in it because of her +10% buff

[soft raft]

Insert obligatory "Faction fleet bad" statement here
Strasser w/ unique aug is essentially a AvP sidegrade so take that as you well

[sweet delta]

Side grade

She doesn't even freeze for her own tbs

[left wasp]

Which backline ship should I MLB next?
I have 4 bulins but I have a lot that's not MLB-ed

[dreamy blade]

Probably fritz since she's almost mlb anyway

Otherwise I would say amagi or implac

[left wasp]

Welp that's 2 bulins down the drain
And now just realized I only had 3, not 4
So down to 1 and back to farming like 3 more

[turbid marsh]

fritz-musashi-sov would be my choice but hey... XD

[viscid swift]

ehhh

I wouldn't bother with Fritz unless you already have a bunch of good fighters to use on her

[turbid marsh]

im thinking more on meta fight and w15 support fleet with only 2 more bulins XD

[left wasp]

I got no good gear being honest

[turbid marsh]

oh only one hellcat

[viscid swift]

yeah Fritz kinda won't be doing much if that's what you can put on her

[dreamy blade]

Bf109 are from proto core and gear lab

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, I see a Sea Hornet there which is pretty good

[dreamy blade]

Implac probably would be more useful it just pains me to see your fritz at 2LB

[viscid swift]

I rather doubt they have a lot a prototype cores and there are a number of things I'd priortize from the lab before Bf1-09Gs

[viscid swift]

you get used to it

[hybrid forge]

I am referring to the +10% damage from KMS ships during freeze

[versed forum]

who should i lmb first after zwei traf or yt2? I can only lmb 2 ships

[nocturne glade]

hows warspite looking after her augment? She seems pretty decent

[late flame]

after zwei, i'd say traf since she buffs lion

[late flame]

if you use her in pvp she's now meta
else meh

[nocturne glade]

i see. ty!

Opsi Teams

Was hoping to get some help with opsi teams

[light trail]

are any of the UR torps in gear lab worth making and using over just quad magnetic torps

i ended up getting enough UR torp blueprints just by chance to make something and was curious if it's even worth the coins

[sweet delta]

a quint mag is sometimes useful for stagger or timing

[light trail]

i see i see. maybe i'll just hold on until it might help

[frozen stag]

is reisalin worth lvling for opsi

[stark quiver]

not rly unless waifu, she isnt good

[frozen stag]

damb and i thought she was good enough with her aux

oh right just finally got the ur invitation is there a reason why shinano is picked over nj currently have musashi and unzen and no pr ships for urs bismarck zwei is coming so kinda make sense to pick shinano over nj since shes a cv

[viscid swift]

NJ has been outclassed by virtually every UR BB since her release whereas Shinano is still top of the pack against heavy armor and has only gotten more relevant in that department

[sharp echo]

SS RLD useful?

okey!

[warped acorn]

mid?

[frozen stag]

do i just focus on getting shinano to mlb currently have 0 ur bulins but i think i can get enough to mlb her from just the returnee event or save the bullins for bismarck?

[stark quiver]

hyper mid
borderline trash

[viscid swift]

Save the bullins for Bismarck and slowly MLB Shinano with dupes

[soft raft]

Two of the worst UR talents right there rip

[warped acorn]

welp

[sharp echo]

speed have use?

[viscid swift]

No

[stark quiver]

only for #EX-gamers
so no, pick the red skill i guess

[sharp echo]

ok ty

[sweet delta]

that looks like a DD cat? So speed could be useful

🐌

[sharp echo]

yeah its a DD catto

[full plank]

do devs still expand story with new worlds or no?
just asking so i know if they regularly add more stages to 3 star for gems

cause uhh
i have a VERY SPECIFIC kashino skin i wanna buy

[vale spindle]

Not regularly

[full plank]

once i spend on the important stuff that is

[vale spindle]

in the past 5 years we got 2 new chapters

[full plank]

damn
so no gem content

thats like uhh
400 gems

[vale spindle]

each chapter is 250 cause its 50 50 50 100

[full plank]

ohh ye

so 500 in 5 years...

man im never getting hot springs relaxation 😭

[autumn flare]

Sometimes we do get gems though for miscellaneous reasons

[full plank]

yay

[autumn flare]

Depends on the reasons, but sometimes its for things like anniversaries, awards, milestones, and other smaller occaisons

[full plank]

so i can get the skin :D

[autumn flare]

In time

but entirely possible

Though your biggest issue will probably be dock size rather than the rate at which you get new gems

[full plank]

man im so sad
missed trafalgar by 40 emblems

[autumn flare]

that's unfortunate

[late flame]

f2p should also not bother using gems for skins tbh

[full plank]

wait if i retrofit javelin
do levels and gear carry over?

[full plank]

if we shouldnt bother
why hot?

[autumn flare]

Reminds me of missing z52

[late flame]

/gems

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Gem Spending 101

Gems in Azur Lane are fairly rare from an F2P perspective. However, the gacha in Azur lane does not require gems and their main usage is expansion of facilities like dorm, academy, docks and depot, as well as buying resources, resource packs, premium items (rings and name change), and skins.

As an F2P, you can get up to 4700 guaranteed gems (3750 for 3* clearing all 15 main campaign worlds, 800 for completing Bands collection and 150 for 8 days login campaign), not counting random gems from commissions or occasional bonuses from events or other sources.

Considering limited availability of gems for F2P players, even if spent exclusively on QoL upgrades, it is impossible to upgrade everything.

This is the recommended way to spend gems as an F2P:

• 3rd Dorm slot (300 gems)
• Dorm 2nd floor (500 gems)
• Dock space (remaining gems)

The main purpose of the dorm is for faster morale regen while grinding. Using ships with 0 morale will receive a 50% exp penalty and lose affinity.

The 2nd floor of the dorm will have the same number of slots as the 1st floor. While it lacks passive exp gain, it has faster morale regen. 3 dorm slots with the 2nd floor gives you a total of 6 slots, which is enough for your whole mob fleet.

Dock space is the biggest constraint for players. While this can help casual players collect all their waifus, there is also practical use in collecting ships - for later levelling to get their fleet tech on reaching lvl 120. These are important for players as they provide crucial additional stats that help players to tackle the hardest content (W14/15, H.Arbiters, CM).

Alternatively, players may consider getting the 3rd Academy slot for faster skill training or more dorm slots instead of just dock space (not recommended).

While players may opt to buy skins/rings with the F2P gems, this will come at the cost of QoL. It is recommended to only buy those with real money 💳.

[autumn flare]

yes

[full plank]

aight

[soft raft]

Break out the 💳 if you want to buy a skin, abandon all hope of using Free gems on skins

[full plank]

every time i hear free gems i hear the shadow fight 2 brainrot era

free gems...northern hammer...
GET OUT OF MY HEADDDDDD

[late flame]

#al-general is that way

[autumn flare]

Anybody wise in the ways of OPSI? I've played for years but never been very good at building fleets

[soft raft]

• Fleet 1: Unicorn + 5 others
• Full BB boss fleet
• Full CV boss fleet
• Either another boss fleet or crossfleet barrage spam

Can't really get any more specific without knowing who you have

[autumn flare]

Give me a few moments

[nova halo]

4 faction fleets

[fluid brook]

Yes

[autumn flare]

Sorry for the poor format

[hollow gust]

[wicked obsidian]

Brother...I am F2p ...but I bought the Shimanto swim skin....and don't even have the Ship....
If U like the Skin like I do...I say go for it

[late flame]

only if you wanna spend money or sacrifice qol

[viscid swift]

Just spend the cash honestly, the quality of life loss especially in the long run just isn't worth it

[late flame]

oh nice cheeky is here i was getting a headache looking at all those screenshots to form opsi fleets

[autumn flare]

My apologies

[viscid swift]

Can you get anymore UR Bullins

[autumn flare]

I think about ten right now

[viscid swift]

Max limit Break Lion, Implacable, and Amagi CV then

[viscid swift]

Anyway
BB Boss: Lion, Vanguard, Bismarck Zwei, Kronshtadt, Helena, Hindenburg
CV: Kearsarge, Yorktown 2, Implacable, Guam, Aurora, Sirius
Mob: Musashi, Unicorn, Independence, Laffey 2, Mogador, Shimakaze
4th: whatever

[late flame]

hmm shima offtank..
then again mob fleet is mostly unicorn + whatever hehe

[autumn flare]

Is there no need for a designated 4th fleet?

[late flame]

4th fleet can be cross-fleet, or another anti-light cv fleet

[viscid swift]

If you need one it would only be for harbiter or you've geared your fleets so incredibly badly while tackling stuff like arbiters with low adapts

Not like there much left worth using for a 4th fleet anyway

[stark quiver]

Implacable?
I’d run enty instead

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't

Honestly would rather run Amagi CV if you want to double dip on damage without even a slow

[stark quiver]

My reasoning is kinda just that tempy doesn’t move
And every other boss can be bb fleeted

[viscid swift]

I mean

I don't ever build opsi fleets with Harbiter in mind

[void walrus]

You might as well include a repair ship in the 4th fleet. not particularly useful, but the 10% heal can be nice for some chip damage.

[late flame]

current opsi
fleet1 : unicorn + 5 bodies - slotting lion there to rack up exp.. but all are lv125
fleet2 : cv fleet
fleet3 : bb fleet
fleet4 : anti-light fleet (too lazy to change to cross fleet)

[stark quiver]

Say what now

Nomis is a dirty whale

[viscid swift]

Because who's to say they can even beat harbiter in the first place for one

[autumn flare]

Very true

[late flame]

i am so ready for submarine support fleet /s

[viscid swift]

And if they can, the fleets as they stand should be more than capable of dispatching most harbiters

[slow fox]

same

[stark quiver]

You build them with ehp in mind

[slow fox]

BB in the back CB in the front

[stark quiver]

Mebot didn’t you whale for amagi cv copies

[slow fox]

-# yeah

[viscid swift]

Doesn't Shinano have more eHP than most BBs when procced

[slow fox]

-# yeah

[stark quiver]

I should’ve done that, need my copy for ex

[viscid swift]

Yeah but not 15 copies

[late flame]

ehp supremacy when

[slow fox]

When Eugen T4 tank

[viscid swift]

Eugen 2

[stark quiver]

Fuck I ate cilantro

[autumn flare]

I've seen several varying opinions about the 4th fleet. I remember seeing an older guide about a HE fleet, though I'm not sure of its validity. Though if the 4th fleet wouldn't be used all that much, I assume a cross-fleet would be the most useful

[stark quiver]

Cross fleet is good
Idk if someone needs to use fleet 4 unless skill issue

[viscid swift]

It's not about viability
It's simply a matter of whether or not you need an actual 4tu fleet

[late flame]

i used 4 fleets before because i forgor to swap gear lul

[storm olive]

What was the top sub fleet again, was it flasher ldv 556m (flasher as flag)?

[viscid swift]

Which I sincerely doubt you do

[autumn flare]

Any recommendations for a cross-fleet setup then?

[whole crypt]

assuming not already taken by your other fleets Alsace Musashi Soyuz Kroshtadt Shimakaze Unzen

[autumn flare]

No Alsace or Soyuz, unfortunately, and the rest would be in the other fleets

[whole crypt]

or whatever URs you have left that have crossfleet

[slow fox]

-# Isn't there /crossfleet

[whole crypt]

that lists all the current crossfleet ships I don't think it recommends or tiers in any manner

[storm olive]

Is sushi still one of the better crossfleets

[stark quiver]

Yes

[late flame]

fishpack (albacore/flasher/archerfish)
wolfpack is slightly worse due to less oxy, but otherwise performs similarly (any of U37/81/96/101/47)
best misc subs probably would be homura (senran kagura collab) / LDV / U556m

[storm olive]

I think I'll just stick with Wolfpack then because sub levelling is a pain

[late flame]

12-1 is where i level subs, or wait for raid type events

[stark quiver]

I level with books

[whole crypt]

still have to use them for affinity

[viscid swift]

Dorms and XP packs honestly

[stark quiver]

They are either stranger or friendly I forgot
Idk they aren’t even 125 after years

[viscid swift]

Ehh just save that for when a raid event shows up

Or just commit them at 90 affinity

[whole crypt]

well I'd say it's fair to dorm/pack up to around 100

or more if you're secretary to 90aff

ideally you just want to reach 100aff and 120/125 without too much excess of either, though if you oath them that kind of changes the ballgame

[late flame]

200aff or bust

[viscid swift]

I mean it's 1.3 million XP to 125 from 120, you have plenty of leeway

[stark quiver]

Do any subs not named ldv have oath skins

[soft raft]

I dont think subs have oath skins period

[stark quiver]

No oathy then

[normal cedar]

which arcade game is the most efficient for farming tickets?
I dont wanna spend too much coins on credits

[atomic abyss]

The one you can do easily

Like genuinely

[late flame]

or have most fun with

[wind oxide]

Dont they all give the same amount of tickets?

[atomic abyss]

I'm fairly sure none of them are particularly more efficient than the other lol

[normal cedar]

ohh got it, thanks

[tame pivot]

What two Auxillary do yall recommend for Trafalgar? Excluding Goldburn. Also.. hammer or swords?

[hollow gust]

The gun range is easiest

[fierce lantern]

Is black rock shooter a good sr

[hollow gust]

Spam the fuck out of 1 square and you pretty much guarantee a max point run

[stark quiver]

What arcade are you guys talking about

[autumn flare]

It's a thing they added a while back

[atomic abyss]

A long while back

[stark quiver]

Oh

[autumn flare]

It's mostly for some older skins i think

[atomic abyss]

Sword
Any Gold HP aux in place of goldburn then

[whole crypt]

best game is to wait for suika game to get added

[tame pivot]

Washing Machine and Fargo drone a good combo for her?

[atomic abyss]

Horrible
DDs don't use washing machine

[late flame]

drone is for* shit and giggles

[atomic abyss]

Drone is a FP stat stick I guess and can be used if you need chip dmg

But washing machine is a complete non starter

[stark quiver]

Wells fargo drone mentioned
AA aux for the win

[tame pivot]

what 2 would you recommend then?

[late flame]

rudder supremacy

[atomic abyss]

Toolbox + any 550 HP auxiliary

[sweet delta]

it'll have terrible prize ticket per minute efficiency because you'll be too busy high scoring

[atomic abyss]

So goldburn
The cyanidin towels from last year muse event

[autumn flare]

Sorry, I was helping my partner. Y'all mentioned that there was a list of all the cross-fleet chracters?

[atomic abyss]

I believe last year to love ru Collab had some too

[atomic abyss]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[autumn flare]

I see

[atomic abyss]

Best ones are as mentioned

Alsace, Soyuz then Musashi, NJ

[whole crypt]

Musashi is better than Als/Soy in some cases because it procs twice

[autumn flare]

With the first three either not owned or in another fleet, what are the best options to utilize for a decent cross fleet?

[atomic abyss]

You can forget any decent crossfleet then

[whole crypt]

don't think too much about it, at that point you're just looking at how much more overkill you can stack

[atomic abyss]

Indep I guess has the crossfleet buff

But in terms of decent crossfleet barrages you're out of luck

[autumn flare]

Yeah, I'm quickly realizing that I'm either already using most of the cross fleet characters or don't own them

Random 4th fleet it is

[atomic abyss]

If it's opsi independence is an option for the buffs

Since she'll buff all your carriers reload and avi

[autumn flare]

I have her in my Mob fleet already

So the buff is in use which is nice

[whole crypt]

average c1 clear time with Lion

[cobalt gate]

i saw cn people use albion + goldburn for aurora.... i'm suprised if that would be good

[atomic abyss]

Why wouldn't it be

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with albion + GB

[cobalt gate]

well compared to using hydro

[atomic abyss]

Goldburn is goldburn
The albion report gives Eva rate to HMS

I mean aurora has low HP in particular so

[cobalt gate]

i mean i always bring a +13 rudder

[whole crypt]

it's cope keeping Aurora alive anyway

[atomic abyss]

Idk what the maff says

[cobalt gate]

always though rudder was the best no contest

[stark quiver]

Is that fubuki on the middle
Also sandy there for waifu purposes?

[whole crypt]

sandy is easily top end DPS and AA for concealment

[atomic abyss]

Isn't that kawameta

[whole crypt]

in the middle yes

[atomic abyss]

Fubs ears wouldn't be that colour

[whole crypt]

skill leveling is real

I mean of course it's Kawakaze META, it's META skill leveling season

[sharp socket]

is juneau useful anywhere

[drifting kelp]

Yo, where da homework for Kawakaze so I can help people with their D15s

thanks

[sharp socket]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uz0UvQHsVUrlNz08Pc1IN04oABfMeiXTngfM8XJzRXo/edit?tab=t.0 bottom of this

[whole crypt]

budget AA for 13, but kind of questionable nowadays since you can go Sandy aug even if you haven't finished retrofit

[drifting kelp]

thanks

[spring basin]

how long until zwei's rerun ?

[late flame]

#game-news message

[dreamy blade]

personally i used her to clear w13 since sandy was occupied in my boss fleet

[sharp socket]

so that means i can retire her

[dreamy blade]

sure

[severe tinsel]

Hi guys, where do people start build their second fleet? And how many fleet type needed to clear all game content?

[soft raft]

W9 at earliest
You can only have two fleets at a time in campaign tho you will need 4 for OpSi

[severe tinsel]

Ok

What types do I need to build? 1 Boss fleet, 1 mob fleet, what more?

[wind hazel]

that's it. opsi is just more boss fleet

[autumn flare]

From my understanding (What was instructed on a little while ago) It's 1 mob fleet, 2 boss fleets (One BB, one CV) and the last is a freebie

[wind hazel]

if your account is strong yes, can be even 1 mob 1 boss 2 free

[sinful escarp]

the lazy way is 1 mob fleet and 3 boss fleets. one boss fleet for each armor type. that is more than enough for hard mode boss of opsi

one shotting the boss doesnt give you additional rewards so dont be to hung up on one shots

[shell willow]

is 42 the max cv reload as of now (with both cv and cvl farmed)? the tracker is confusing my brain a bit

[stark hawk]

Do collab skins come back during black friday event?

[atomic abyss]

Never

Collab skins only rerun if the Collab does

[split gazelle]

does divergent chessboard have oil cap?

[clever needle]

if i'm researching solely for gear, does that change the research priority, or does it stay the same? (e.g. instead of taking Ds, prioritising Qs)

[wind hazel]

yes you will take Q than D

[wind oxide]

What's the hit rate for the BBs with FP AA equipped against the meta?

@slow fox

[stark quiver]

I do not think mebot calcs hit rate
And it depends on your tech, gear etc

[wind oxide]

Well anyone?
coz i wanted to know if it hits or misses sometimes

[balmy wharf]

After the Bis2 rerun next week, I presume the next UR rerun will be Unzen?
Then the next UR rerun after that would be Guam & Laffey 2?

[slow fox]

You're lucky. I also do enemy eHP.

[wind oxide]

Can you do it with AFCT and HPFC differently

[slow fox]

Okay

[paper mural]

What is Kawakaze META's armor type?

[wind oxide]

light

[slow fox]

Lion hitrate against Kawakaze META.

[wind oxide]

What are the chances of missing with HPFC and AFCT

[slow fox]

With HPFC, 31.808% chance of missing.
With AFCT, 28.193% chance of missing.

[wind oxide]

Thanks man
Appreciate it

[slow fox]

gl hf

[pallid meteor]

!tierliat

!tierlist

[boreal wagon]

didnt u forget her skill that increases her hit

[whole crypt]

is 2hr purple E actually better than 4G

[slow fox]

Yes I did

[stark quiver]

[slow fox]

fixed including her skill

[wind oxide]

Ohh the 15% acc

thanks

[cunning bone]

is lion and trafalgar good in world 15?

[clear harbor]

What does "For Statstick" mean? This is from the AA section of the equipment guide.

[teal ice]

why early chapter give so little money like in two digits🗿

[wind oxide]

the chances of missing with this?

[slow fox]

28.438% and 24.935%

[whole crypt]

it means the guns are picked for their stats (HIT or FP) instead of their AA capacity
for the case of rainbow 76mm it's also generally the best AA gun though

[whole crypt]

don't think too much about it and just push progression as much as you can
late game then (more like mid game now) was also bad before some of the changes around 4 years ago

[clear harbor]

I see. So I'd want to stick the STAAG to my BBs, right?

But my vanguards probably want other AAs?

[whole crypt]

depends on what you're doing but essentially

[clear harbor]

Well, right now I'm trying to craft/find gear that actually appears on the priority guide. Up until now I've just been using whatever I have, but I finally have enough resources to craft a few things.

[stark quiver]

I mean, staag/twin 76 for back line because it’s fast(to lower fleet average fire time for aa), and gives hit stat

If there’s no enemy planes, for vanguard you can run twin 134 for gunboates cuz fp stat
And staag/twin 76 for torp boats

Else you run normal aa to blast planes

[whole crypt]

twin 76 isn't that fast but it's good range and good damage so it works out

[stark quiver]

Yea I meant that for staag speed, and 76 for hit

[teal ice]

ahh alright

[molten zinc]

this isn't include the HIT from the shell so she should have even higher hit chance

and ofc tech

[slow fox]

Why does everyone punish me

Of course, reasonable to assume no tech mutsukichair

[boreal wagon]

also level difference should be 3 not 5, metas are 128

[hollow gust]

Also am I missing it or is luck not included either?

[boreal wagon]

the second division is luck

[slow fox]

Specifically the 50 - 50

[hollow gust]

Fuck forgot Lion is only 50 luck

[slow fox]

The next person to suggest changes will have their Amagi(CV) stolen

[stark quiver]

Good work mebot

[slow fox]

People are bastardizing my expertise by calcing enemy eHP instead of allied eHP mutsuki

[storm olive]

What is mutsuki lv1 ehp with no auxes

[slow fox]

1/3 of Bulin

[sweet delta]

According to this website I found, metas are level 126 https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses/id/1622

[slow fox]

Misinformation website

[boreal wagon]

this is true and level diff should be negative

cuz otherwise wed be gaining hit rate if we are lower level and losing it if we are higher

[slow fox]

The guy who beat W15 with lvl1 mutsuki took advantage of this

[hushed sorrel]

i just joined. what does this calculations mean? what do you want to show?

[tame jungle]

go backread

[sweet delta]

That desmos is superior to larscalc

[wind hazel]

IP ban him, slander

[slow fox]

These calculations just present Lion's hitrate against Kawakaze Meta under X Y and Z equipment assumptions.

[hushed sorrel]

thank you everyone :)

[clear harbor]

We're using Azur Lane damage calculations to calculate π

[orchid scarab]

What do these bars represent?

[wind hazel]

/cvdetection

[sweet delta]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[molten zinc]

detection bar

[orchid scarab]

Thx

[pale loom]

Should I maxed lb shinano or lion first

[sweet delta]

Don't use bulins on perma URs like shinano

[stark quiver]

This guy 💀

[hushed sorrel]

i would never say never. more like only when necessary. shin got her uses

[stark quiver]

Why would u use bulins on a free ship

And not use bulins on new not free ships

[tame jungle]

i mean if you got like amagi/haku and implac ready to go already i could see it being not terrible but we're missing that context

[hushed sorrel]

indeed context is missing

[tame jungle]

although, going up against lion, with her being as powerful as she is 💀

[wind oxide]

damn a lot of changes in hit rate there

[lofty patrol]

I would love start a Royal Navy Fleet, but I don't have enought free dock space.

[sweet delta]

Good observation

[hushed sorrel]

did you join a guild?

[wind hazel]

you can realize that dream by purchasing gem packs and expanding your dockspace

[tame jungle]

going off of gut feeling i doubt you have all the pieces to make a good british faction fleet in the first place

[lofty patrol]

I still don't have a personal credit card.

[hushed sorrel]

lets move the topic to here.
wait you used gems for repairs in battle?

[lofty patrol]

Yep.

[crystal jewel]

Everyone, can you explain this to me? When I can claim it again?

[pale loom]

So I use bulin on lion and just wait free copy of shinano?

[hushed sorrel]

all your resources in mails go into the storage. its empty so you cannot collect

[hushed sorrel]

that was a very bad idea. and you dont need a credit card. whatever works in the google/apple account you use. like paypal too

[lofty patrol]

I don't have anything just Cash, no Paypal, no debpt card, no credit card.

[wind hazel]

is this just Lion missing a shit ton or sussy rolling high crit or both

[clear harbor]

I think you can buy a gift card for the Apple Store or Google store at some retailers?

[hushed sorrel]

you can buy gift cards for google/apple those work as well

[lofty patrol]

Yeah that's only way at the moment a part I still need to fix some things in post with my postal book as probably I will get my first Bancomat "Debt Card" at September.

[brave bluff]

is there a simple way to farm gear lab blueprints? (especially the UR ones)

[tame jungle]

do operation siren

[hushed sorrel]

please for real stop using gems for repairs. thats very expensive and your gems are counted. do not repair with gems

we can fix your team if you like (well other here can i am not good with fleetbuilding)

[lofty patrol]

I'm not spending them anymore on those as I only have 160 left.

Of gems I mean.

[brave bluff]

is this a response to me? if so, what in it? what should i focus on?

[hushed sorrel]

feel free to send us screenshots and where you have problems in story/pvp/whereever

[lofty patrol]

Right now I don't have much problem in the story, just little free dock space avaiable and the need to scrap some ships in case I get new from events.

[hushed sorrel]

the only possible way for ur blueprints is operation siren. clear the map. buy the abysal lv 6 items. those give the most rewards with the arbiter. the other pieces can be bought in the operation siren shop directly

[pale loom]

Can i use lion gun on nj?

[hushed sorrel]

for a quick fix just try to upgrade dock slots in the guild if there are still some available
try to 3* some maps for the gem reward

[lofty patrol]

Also, this is my main fleet and their equipment.

[crystal jewel]

Oh, I have received it twice and I think it can be received once/week

[brave bluff]

okay thanks... trying to get my fleets upgraded... but i'm terrible at fleetbuilding

[hushed sorrel]

you can empty your storage how many times for any amounts you want, but since only resources from mails go into the storage you will directly know once you collect a new mail with oil/coins

[hushed sorrel]

sry i am also bad at fleetbuilding but some here are good. in the worst case open a thread 🧵 that will make your needs more visible in long time

[lofty patrol]

So you can have a look Rino.

[hollow gust]

Why flag Alsace

[hushed sorrel]

would be nice if you can move those into a 🧵. the answer timer will disappear and you can post what kind of equip you have access to.
also if you got equip boxes it would be wise to open them after upgrading the lower quality ones to purple

[lofty patrol]

I will, I hope I don't have the warehouse full.

[hushed sorrel]

bet you are good with fleet building? help me help andthebestgamer :D

[hollow gust]

Don't run ironblood faction fleet

[lofty patrol]

I love Ironblood honestly saying GreyGoose.

[hushed sorrel]

i would change and upgrade equip first. making it useable

after that i would passivly increase skill level and grind some exp for the fleet

AFTER that i would buy some augments moduls. since they are expensive do that after the other equip

[lofty patrol]

Augments??? What are those?

[hushed sorrel]

ships with maximal limit break have a round equip slot
so its just another equip with very limited options

[slender linden]

where can I use her

[lofty patrol]

Oh, ok.

[hushed sorrel]

for example look at your z52. its right below "preset"

[lofty patrol]

I see, but I don't know what they does tbh.

[hushed sorrel]

just a bit stronger, but since your equip isnt good you shouldnt care at the moment

[pale loom]

Can someone help me build a fleet

I'm kinda clueless at this game ngl

[warped acorn]

maybe go make a thread and show ur dock

[hushed sorrel]

to my knowlegde nobody of the good fleet builder are online. make a thread and you will get attention

[sharp socket]

hi

[hushed sorrel]

moin

[sharp socket]

anyway yes make a thread of your ships

[pale loom]

Do I make thread here?

[lofty patrol]

How I make a thread here?

[hushed sorrel]

we will see. at the moment i see nothing. but yes here in the gameplay-help not somewhere else

[sharp socket]

alternatively read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

if you're new

[hushed sorrel]

on the top of this channel left from the search bar is the thread icon

[sharp socket]

dock help

[hushed sorrel]

click that with leftclick and another leftclick at create

[lofty patrol]

Ah, I see.

[hushed sorrel]

the most important part in asking for help is that nobody knows what you dont know. asking more questions is better than being helpless

[lofty patrol]

I agree on that.

Wait, I can't add image in there?

[sharp socket]

are you the one that needs thread

[vale spindle]

theres an updated link now

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips

[hushed sorrel]

first add text and than shortly add the images. if you need 2 steps do it in 2

creating with pictures isnt possible. just answer after creating the thread

[lofty patrol]

Fleet Fixing.

[lofty patrol]

I done it.

[slender linden]

How bad is this gun?

[south sequoia]

hard choice, should I go thru with purple nakhi or 30 min

[south sequoia]

its not that bad but you shouldn't craft it either
twin 410 does its job better

[inland shoal]

I would 100% take the UL

[south sequoia]

ul then

[tropic tusk]

how do u auto loop on c1 again? wht are the settings u need?

its annoying to show up everytime even when akashi not here

[south sequoia]

have you enabled reduced tb guidance?

[tropic tusk]

ohh right

3q

[still nest]

any URs that I should prioritize? my vanguards is kinda weak

[eager marsh]

does kinda weak mean you don't have tank or lack firepower

[wet badge]

Lion for main fleet and kron if u need a tank

[split gazelle]

investing in kron

[still nest]

hmm honestly both

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1291839726873215018

[wet badge]

If u want firepower, main fleet is usually the way to go

[undone saffron]

im excited but got dissappointed when i noticed she wasnt on the banner is she good?

[still nest]

here's my current UR main and vanguard

here's the SRR main and vanguard

[undone saffron]

U HAVE NEW JERSEY can u tell me if shes good? or atleast worth it to lvl?

[still nest]

yeah I came back late, fortunately I got trafalgar atleast

[still nest]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home?ship=new_jersey

[warm bloom]

is there a way to know what furniture that can increase the total exp bonus again? because when i buy some new furniture set it doesn't give me more bonus anymore

[heavy zealot]

Should i start building san diego?

I think i have enuf mats already...

[wind hazel]

scared of jamming lol

[thorny field]

Build her or tier 3 lion

crusie lvl 85 rn can get another bullin or just use shinano

[whole crypt]

only a limited number of furniture gets counted from the highest comfort value, so after a while it stops going up unless new high comfort furniture gets added, even then it kind of soft caps eventually

it also only affects the 1/F dorm XP, with additional comfort borderline on not adding XP until you reach the % breakpoints, so don't worry about it

[whole crypt]

finish LBing one ship at a time, don't spread out your UR bulins

[stark quiver]

Do you get off full 4 strikes

[dry tree]

Is this main gun good to use? I mean what will be it's drawback, is it similar to musashi gun?

[turbid basin]

Is there any reason to keep the first copies of grey ships?

[warm bloom]

is there like a number what are the soft/hard cap ?

[whole crypt]

you don't have to fill everything in at once, since it takes a lot of coins

[whole crypt]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by mrlar

[storm olive]

Who is tankier between washing machine + tracto max hinden and washing machine oxy torp unzen (hinden has 2 guns equipped)

[whole crypt]

not a priority, if you need space you can come back for them later

[whole crypt]

the absolute max now with paid furniture is still in the low 500s

[heavy zealot]

Lacked mats.... Still had 22k coins left over tho :3

[stark quiver]

The 457 is good for mobbing
The right side mk2 406 is good against light armor bosses

[iron meteor]

would u guys take this

[late flame]

not with your cube count

[warm bloom]

hold on, 500 percent?

[whole crypt]

500 comfort

[stark quiver]

Comfort maxxer

[warm bloom]

is that 100% exp bonus?

[whole crypt]

you hit 83% at 489 comfort and the next breakpoint is 525 for 84%, not sure if that's even achievable now

you'll never reach 100%

[warm bloom]

gg, ok good to know that you really can't reach 100%

[whole crypt]

that requires infinite comfort

[wind hazel]

yeah

[stark quiver]

[warm bloom]

i was wondering do people had 100% total bonus exp or not or im missing something major haha

[whole crypt]

again this only affects your first floor dorm XP, the actual amount is negligible

the formula is comfort/(comfort+100), it's not possible to reach 100%

I just swapped out +13 iowa gun for +11 lion gun and it was still enough to oneshot

[undone plover]

Even if it was 100% it is still a very small source of xp
Your main xp comes from sorties

[leaden garden]

Is this worth it?

[hushed sorrel]

yes one could say its the best one for getting ur gear parts

[south sequoia]

Lion > Trafalgar > Raffaelo

[wicked obsidian]

Is it recorded to do those kind of research. I only do free ones or those that consumes Coins

[tame jungle]

are you in w12

[wicked obsidian]

Not yet... still W6. I am resting after going crazy for Lion 🦁

[tame jungle]

i'd advise against spending too many resources on research then

[solemn coral]

Hey people do you have something who relate all the equipment worth farming and where?
I'm kinda lost

[late flame]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[wicked obsidian]

I literally don't spend anything but Coins ever...
But ...ok...

[tame jungle]

not rly worth farming campaign for gear

[solemn coral]

Thanks 🙏

[tame jungle]

i hope you're aware that you're going to have to raise a whole 2nd fleet around w10?

don't buy the purse before paying the rent

[wicked obsidian]

Shit...so Can't progress after W10 if I don't have a fully built 2nd fleet

[warped acorn]

depends

anyways i should go for anchorage bp over random weapon bp first for now?

[tame jungle]

depends on what ships you have but it starts getting way more difficult once you can no longer rely on level advantage as easily

[wicked obsidian]

Ow...then I Can't progress... cause I am still using 🦄 and Helena

[tame jungle]

nah you'll be alright, just try not to spend your resources willy-nilly just because you have them

[wicked obsidian]

Ok... will listen to you guys this time...
Cause last time U guys told me not get the Shimanto skin but I still did... and now suffering

[tame jungle]

that's what i mean with don't buy the purse before paying the rent

[warped acorn]

🙏

[wicked obsidian]

Yeah I got it...

Tnx

[whole crypt]

you don't need a second fleet to clear up to ch12, possibly 13 even, but that depends heavily on what the one fleet you use is

[wicked obsidian]

Hmmm ... Yeah never know until you try ha ... Ok... But won't be doing campaign for a while

[stark quiver]

Me when I buy a purse without praying the rent

[tame jungle]

#evicted...

[wicked obsidian]

At least you guys buy purse.... I only bought the leather of the purse....

[worldly pewter]

do u have bismark 2 ?

[boreal temple]

is it just me or does ld randomly freeze when playing on auto? should I move to a different emu for now?

[worldly pewter]

after the last apk update for me at least the first 10 seconds of the first fight is laggy but then no issues

and there is a smol chance that the game bugs and i have to relaunch it just in that lag

[boreal temple]

been pretty annoying, I usually leave my ld in the background while I watch youtube or something and it's been happening more and more recently that it just freezes while in a fight, I guess I'll just try out other emulators for now

[serene moth]

i never had any problems with blue stacks x

[worldly pewter]

i also have a weird bug where it freezes in a loading manjuu for the first fight in a hard stage and i have to relaunch it

[boreal temple]

I'll try repairing assets and see if it fixes it, this is the first time ld failed me ngl so I'm not gonna ignore the possibility that it's just me breaking something

[severe tinsel]

I have these guys, I wanna build a mob fleet and boss fleet.

I'm at stage 11 and need fleet thats futureproof

Btw if you guys have good tier list website lemme know. I want to know how to build fleet myself too.

[whole crypt]

who would you say to raise as a second tank after Portland

[whole crypt]

you're not really going to future proof a fleet from ch11 up to 15, least to say you're lacking a fair bit of ships for 14 and 15
you can make something for up to 13 though and most people are just going to spend months if not years leveling in 12

[severe tinsel]

leveling commander level?

[whole crypt]

leveling ships

[severe tinsel]

why leveling ship for years?

[whole crypt]

12 is the recommended leveling spot

because the game has over 700 unique ships you can level and they all give you a little bonus for doing it

[severe tinsel]

i see

[patent pivot]

Leveling FT is the actual game

[whole crypt]

I'm done with the actual game

[severe tinsel]

what is FT

[whole crypt]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by mrlar

[severe tinsel]

ohh for lab stuff

[whole crypt]

not just for lab, you get far more faction tech points than is needed to unlock PR ships

you also level faction tech level, as well as every ship giving a small stat bonus when you level them up to 120

[severe tinsel]

ohh, so its recommended if i just use any ship i got and lvl them up to lvl 120?

mlb them and stuff

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say any, at least not as a priority

[worldly pewter]

some stats are crucial for certain hard fight challenges

[whole crypt]

some ships have less useful tech and it's always more important to level actually good ships before leveling for tech

[severe tinsel]

ok, still priority the good ship and lvl up other when good ship are maxed

any of you got good tier list website?

[worldly pewter]

these 3 can futureproof u
other than that do shipyard at least

[sharp socket]

eugen

[severe tinsel]

ok

[split gazelle]

san diego

i think that used to be my 2nd tank until I got anchorage lol

[severe tinsel]

is there any web i can see which ship is good or not?

[worldly pewter]

it is about game knowledge so it is better to ask here

if u don't want to go to the wiki and read the ship stats and skill and figure out where it can be used

[severe tinsel]

ok

[primal charm]

So with Lion being out for a moment and Warspite getting an augment are there any changes to the best BB fleet? Given I don't even know what current best is. I still run Ulrich,Bis2 and Alsace

[worldly pewter]

lion is added on the top ones that is it i think

[whole crypt]

no sandy and I'm not spending bulins on eugen for now
guess I'll just sit on this for a bit

[split gazelle]

don't have little agir I guess?

[whole crypt]

well I don't need a second tank yet and not enough bulins for little agir

[split gazelle]

ah I see

[whole crypt]

since little agir has no tech anyway it's practically not much difference from just overcapping Portland

[worldly pewter]

are u still playing the new cn account ?

[stark quiver]

Sup gph

[whole crypt]

why not

[plain saffron]

sup

[severe tinsel]

i got UR invitation from handbook, should i choose shinano or new jersey?

[whole crypt]

Shinano is the better meta pick but do you have Lion MLB?

[severe tinsel]

yes

[whole crypt]

go for Shinano then I guess

[severe tinsel]

what shinano good at?

[whole crypt]

still part of the top anti-heavy CV fleet

[split gazelle]

did you get yat sen from wishing well? idk if there are any more early access tank ships besides maybe research ones

[severe tinsel]

so it is anti heavy ship?

[whole crypt]

I think I did but not enough prints for retrofit and no second CN ship to send with

[stark quiver]

Predominantly yes

[whole crypt]

overall a decent carrier regardless, depends on what else you have to use but also ultimately not much use until MLB

[severe tinsel]

how is she compared to bismark zwei? since she gonna rerun soon

[split gazelle]

yeah true, could buy them from guild shop but then again expensive

[stark quiver]

They’re different hulls

[severe tinsel]

what does that mean?

[whole crypt]

the problem with raising CN team is both ships need retrofit so the costs add up real quick before they're really usable

[whole crypt]

they're different ship types, carrier and battleship

[severe tinsel]

ohh, how about their effectiveness? what they good at, bismark zwei good at boss, how abt shinano?

[whole crypt]

they're both used more often as boss ships but both will work on mob

[severe tinsel]

ok

[frozen stag]

is kala a good general tank if i only have heinrich, roon muse, fs3 saint louis as tanks

[stark quiver]

Shinano is a cv
And zwei is a bb
And BBs are easier to tier cuz it’s just the change of a gun(mostly)
Zwei is top tier in just any armor bossing
While shinano is top tier for heavy armor and there are better options for other armors

[wet badge]

will other ships be in ur ship invitation

[plain saffron]

commander handbook? prob not for a looooooong time

if it even does

[balmy matrix]

I planned to change some opsi ships to ur while leveling them, any recommendation to pick and mlb?

[wind oxide]

Lion > Amagi > Z52 > implacable

[forest palm]

[south sequoia]

Acoustic homings is better than bidders for the american subs?

[forest palm]

it's all acoustic, and partially depends on your RLD afaik

[south sequoia]

this fine? I just copied off ectl

[whole crypt]

if you have bidders I'd just go all bidders, especially if you still use helena

[tawdry halo]

What should I even craft

[cobalt rapids]

none of those

[tawdry halo]

Then is there any suitable gear lab AA to make Sandy the strongest AA specialist?

[cobalt rapids]

she alr is, but the only aa id craft in gearlabi s the 76 rainbow
using gold aas that u get tons from boxes like twin 113 works till ure in chapter 15

[tawdry halo]

76 rainbow?

[stark quiver]

/wiki twin 76

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_76mm_AA_(Mk_27_Mount)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_76mm_RF_Mk_37_Gun_Mount

Jun 15, 2025, 3:31 PM

[stark quiver]

bottom link

[tawdry halo]

This thing?

[cobalt rapids]

that thing, but that as well is not a high prio and its also very expensive

[tawdry halo]

Oh well

I guess I will just suffer strongholds then

[sweet delta]

[cobalt rapids]

just use this till ure rich

[atomic abyss]

Except the plane threat is practically non existent in opsi

It's like w12 levels at worst
It's usually not even that

[cobalt rapids]

strategist does spam planes but the solution is to kill faster but also u can just heal and go back

[tawdry halo]

Also I am not even that lucky with boxes

[frozen stag]

how do you efficiently grind combat exp for pr i cant grind for avp exp since i dont have a single good main ib ship other than getting bismarck next week

[atomic abyss]

you use the not good ones

[viscid swift]

who said you need good ships

[cobalt rapids]

just be patient
i can promise u ure gonna be better off in the long run

[frozen stag]

do you like put them in a second fleet and grind the rest with your main one or does that not work

or slot 1-2 into your mainfleet to grind exp

[atomic abyss]

you dont use them for your "pushing content" fleet

you use them on your "grinding for exp/coin fleet" in 12-1/4

so like you put say bismarck scharnhost wesser in your mob fleet

then let your proper fleet handle the boss

[stark quiver]

could run xfleet one fleet

[atomic abyss]

i think someone grinding avp wont have good enough xfleets so

[stark quiver]

avp

[frozen stag]

ah so you basically use them for mobbing for more exp then clear the boss with main , but uh theres a problem i only have strasser weser and graf that are not even built

is my best option just to wait for bismarck then grind from there

[atomic abyss]

well

strasser may have just powercrept avp so

[cobalt rapids]

[frozen stag]

well uh

[cobalt rapids]

maybe she powercrept formidable

[atomic abyss]

in any case

[frozen stag]

do i just go for agir then i have heinrich and roon muse

[atomic abyss]

you want 3 ships anyways

[viscid swift]

if you have XP packs saved this is what you save them for

[atomic abyss]

agir needs some backline exp too

just raise 1 more with exp books and then use bis 2 as the last ship once you get her

[frozen stag]

not having a single pr ship done except for pr1 is a pain

[little tree]

~~ you to are behind on having 4 la9~~

[atomic abyss]

[frozen stag]

tbh i have 0 good gear other than event/box ones

[fallen jay]

So I’m having an issue. It’s not letting me see any of my bulins for limitbreaks.

[atomic abyss]

are they above level 1

[fallen jay]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

turn off the level 1 filter when choosing bulins

top right corner

[boreal temple]

what's arbi this month? yes I haven't cleared the map yet

[cobalt rapids]

hermit

i have not cleared the map either as a matter of fact

[whole crypt]

yep apparently you don't need a +13 Lion gun to oneshot

[boreal temple]

anything worth changing? for vg particularly I don't know what vg looks like nowadays

[cobalt rapids]

if not broken no need to fix

[boreal temple]

before anything lion will be 125 before harbi attempt yes

can't even argue with that

[whole crypt]

looks like +11 lion gun working better than iowa gun +13 on Lion because of timing

[cobalt rapids]

the fight is too easy for ppl with all puzzle pieces

so lots of stuff works just have eldr lamo

[boreal temple]

ren how many ur aa do I want before w15

[whole crypt]

Lion and Eldridge are the key pieces yeh

[cobalt rapids]

having like 3 76s is good even post w15

[whole crypt]

we cleared 15 before UR AA guns, more is better but if you have the carries and fleet properly setup you'll be fine

[boreal temple]

welp so far I have 1 of each I guess 4 more months or so then

I'm stubbornly not using subs so I mayhaps need it for less of a headache

[cobalt rapids]

uve been postponning it for years now

[boreal temple]

[cobalt rapids]

the french UR aa was added to gearlab like 1 year before ch15

[whole crypt]

I don't remember using it but might be misremembering with 14 then

when was 15 again?

[cobalt rapids]

2 years ago like in 2023 oct or smth

[whole crypt]

like the Oct before Guam/Laffey II right?

[cobalt rapids]

yap

[whole crypt]

so we had french gun but no Guam/Laffey II/Sandy aug/Shimanto FS/Z52

[boreal temple]

I understood what he meant dw back then before I started stalling yall were clearing it with 1-2 french aa so I got no excuses

[whole crypt]

and Eldridge retro

[cobalt rapids]

well probably coz every forgot about it for 1 year coz there was no hard aa content lol

[whole crypt]

well if we cleared it on launch and already picked up uhhhh Houston II? there's really not much reason to be dawdling back there

[stark quiver]

~~our god an savior kimo 🧀 cleared with percy and some wheelchair fleet you have no excuse ~~

[cobalt rapids]

og investigator cleared it in a 9 hour stream u have no excuse

[boreal temple]

I remember my stalled w14 clear it was also you and cheeky is this pt2 finally

[left cedar]

W14 have been my top moments of GPH, in W15 everything falling apart and losing my title ... gud times

[little tree]

~~ go from sub threat to P L A N E hell~~

[frail hamlet]

Any suggestions for mobbing and bossing fleets? I've just been using 1 fleet up until now

[cobalt rapids]

what chapter are u on

[frail hamlet]

Just got to w12

[left cedar]

not exactly this, losing my "title" and my life getting a complete plotwist

[storm olive]

Who is a better off-tank in opsi mob between unzen and hinden (both washing machine + offensive aux)

[little tree]

[left cedar]

i would say Unzen cuz she do quite alot with torps, and Hindy needs time to get her dmg builded up, cuz she relys only on her guns

[storm olive]

I'm using both just to be clear, I'm just asking which is squishier

[little tree]

Don't you need double hinden gun for her to be useful

[left cedar]

and time, cuz Unze do alot with TRPs, and hindy rely only on her guns

[cobalt rapids]

nelson unicorn saratoga - sanfran roon(for xp leeching) laffey
lion glorious meta howe - adalbert helena something

[left cedar]

also Unze does a bit better in Heavy targets, Hindy on light, but u need the right set up to this happen, and hindy requires quite alot more effort for that happens

[cobalt rapids]

and grind in 12-1 or 12-4 till both of those fleets are 120

and start working on ur reserach ships like anchorage and fdg

[storm olive]

I'm using both in the same fleet laffii is tanking so I just need to know if it's hinden or unzen off-tanking

[left cedar]

iirc both are similar in eHP

i'm quite a retired veteran, newest details i'm out of info

[cobalt rapids]

mid and off have similar dmg distribution

but to answer ur question unzen is tankier than double gun hindy

[boreal temple]

o7 my goat

[frail hamlet]

Great, tysm!

[boreal temple]

the only valid faction fleeter in my books

[storm olive]

I will use unzen off-tank then

[boreal temple]

other way around

[cobalt rapids]

u can switch ships around ( give them to mob fleet ) once they reach lv120 because mobfleet will get most of the xp

[supple verge]

what are the best carrier setups for light medium and heavy content?

[left cedar]

pretty sure if u are in good with some of guys here, they will answer u fine if u explain ur ambitions, and they know more about new ships and things than i would know for now
but thanks for compliment

[cobalt rapids]

the best carrier setups include bbs or bbvs

[whole crypt]

unless it's for heavy

[frail hamlet]

Shinano only worth using closer to mlb?

[sweet delta]

Do fleets with 1 CV count as carrier fleets?

[cobalt rapids]

lion soyuz nahki has 2 bbs

[left cedar]

IJN losing they spot ?
da hell is happening ?!

[sweet delta]

In meta showdown it is the case

[whole crypt]

which showdown

[viscid swift]

is this assuming the need for a slow/root

[left cedar]

i'm referring a bit more for Heavy fleet, not being IJN

[cobalt rapids]

wdym doubt

was it not 2 ijn implac

[sweet delta]

By yes do you mean Shinano amagi lion would beat lion soyuz nakhi if they hit?

[viscid swift]

I was thinking Shinano, Amagi, Haku

[whole crypt]

wait what soynaklion does more than 2IJN+Implacable on heavy?

[cobalt rapids]

in showdown 80s battle

[left cedar]

impressive, IJN slowing losing they spot on being inreplaceable ...

[sweet delta]

I think that still suffers from the same problem of losing too much damage plane for 4 strikes

And haku has a 600% DB

[viscid swift]

oh 4 strikes, I was thinking of 3

[left cedar]

then september cames and IJN get they newest UR and everything back to normal, of IJN being inreplaceable

[sweet delta]

Not at renhex, I think your analysis is reasonable and requires testing against a relevant heavy meta boss like Musashi META

[whole crypt]

how much better is soynaklion in that case

[sweet delta]

According to tests against Arizona with a weaponless vanguard, it is upwards of 7% of the main fleet

[viscid swift]

what about 3 strike IJN vs 4 strike Soviet

[sweet delta]

4 strike ijn beats 3 strike ijn

[viscid swift]

fair enough

[sweet delta]

Unfortunately it uses too many planes I don't have

[whole crypt]

what about against hermit

[sweet delta]

I'm afraid hermit would die in one strike so it's kinda hard to test

[whole crypt]

with max pen?

[tawdry sluice]

Do we know when Yorktown II will be added to the point exchange?

[sweet delta]

Maybe in 4 to 6 months

[cobalt rapids]

musashi is still in queue

[tawdry sluice]

Ahhh good point 😦 thanks for the answers

[soft raft]

Not counting the upcoming Roma WA, there's 3 events in line to be WA'd before we get to York2

[heavy zealot]

Should i just remove lock and sell these lower rarity:D

[ionic edge]

Kawakaze meta fleet

[boreal temple]

most blues are easy to get and same goes for the normals but those are mainly used for enhance so yea

[soft raft]

as long as they're easily re-obtainable sure you can do that if you want

[heavy zealot]

Are there hard to obtain/limited ones among them?

[boreal temple]

story drops I suppose

[ivory pawn]

Start with the ones that can be purchased from Guild shop imo. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Guild_Shop

[worldly pewter]

is 4 strike doable without oath ?

[viscid swift]

I'd just get more dock space honestley

[soft raft]

map drop exclusives
and in the case of elites, some of them are event locked and wont come back for prolonged periods of time

[exotic ginkgo]

Chapter 13 Hard All

[eager mulch]

[cobalt gate]

so do i need to do a torp version or this should be the best sub cat?

[forest palm]

now you work on Edlweiss and cry cause Purple Cats are extra ass

[cobalt gate]

still need to work on cv cat to be honest

[forest palm]

anyway for sub cats you want RLD more than you do TRP

[boreal temple]

cat rework when

[vale spindle]

that's the best sub cat I'm pretty sure

cause i think it's impossible to get the final trp roll

[forest palm]

I don't know if impossible or improbable

[cobalt gate]

yeah since its 10 skill point

[boreal temple]

needs a rename from good to great

congrats on getting promoted good

[forest palm]

Anyway these are the sub cats you want to aim for

[vale spindle]

start with 2 1 1 then roll flames and alpha then you only have 4 left and so ur forced to end up with 3 3 2

order can vary but the logic remains

you can get fucked if alpha or flames overwrites the 2 roll instead of the 1 roll, that would suck

[cobalt gate]

so can eldwiss start with rainbow skills?

[boreal temple]

Gear check in preparation for w15 clear

[vale spindle]

I think so

[cobalt gate]

although any CV example? thats my main focus currently

[vale spindle]

speaking of overwriting that edel is missing 2 rolls so you got the double whammy of overwrite the 2 and only 2 talents starting rip

[forest palm]

Mine did

[sweet delta]

i've never seen a purple cat start with 1 point

[cobalt gate]

i thought purple starts with 2 points

[vale spindle]

Na they start with 3

I'm dumb

[sweet delta]

This is an example CV cat

[cobalt gate]

Thanks. Also is cvl reload not that important? Always thought that skill was important since it includes cvl

[left cedar]

kinda, yes, but where they matter u have no acess to cats

Devs are like, here spend ur life time trying to get all them perfect and have no uses for it

[cobalt gate]

I just want a good cv cat to be honest. They keep giving bb cats

[cobalt rapids]

well its one example

[boreal temple]

ren elp w15 fleet

[sweet delta]

maybe we'll get IXm with paper airplanes in october with an aviation cat to go with it

[cobalt rapids]

rld cats are also another cv cat

[left cedar]

quite a cope with a CV sail ship

say the guy w8 4 a H39 CV ... and seens like the forgot Scheer as well

[cobalt gate]

so are dd car important for low oil farm

[cobalt rapids]

flame mountain cat is good for all campaign farming

[left cedar]

DD Cats pretty sure they arent much a thing, maybe in a crazy way to buff strong DDs, but not reccomended in general

[cobalt gate]

i see, for low oil is z21 or z20 better? the other one i should do is manhan right?

[bleak nymph]

How soon we guesstimate bis2 rerun?

[boreal temple]

next maintenance

[bleak nymph]

Do I still have time to get another 80 cubes without cardfu?

[boreal temple]

you have 3 days I think

[split gazelle]

iirc people said there will be 44 free build tickets

[bleak nymph]

Oh it’s the 19th derp didn’t see news first mb

[boreal temple]

you get free pulls tho so I suppose your 80 cubes are solved

[left cedar]

no KMS DD are gud for low cost ... better go with USS ones that i forgot name

"but i wanna KMS" no diff between them an they are pretty much shit in to it

[boreal temple]

since iirc 44 pulls are given throughout the rerun

[cobalt gate]

i see, keep seeing them used in cn runs so was wondering

[boreal temple]

I think cassin and downes iirc

[fallen jay]

So how does retrofitting work? I know I need to retrofit unicorn and I’ve been working on it but what does that mean?

[sweet delta]

usually means beelining towards the Modernization retrofit node

In Unicorn's case, you can skip the bottom row for now

[ornate narwhal]

What do the red symbols mean in opsi?

[tribal tulip]

How do I get my ships to a 5-6 star???

Or the special Meta ship?

[viscid swift]

you use their META crystals

[left cedar]

each one ? a red beam ? a red beam with "face" on it ? stronghold one ?

[ornate narwhal]

Face and treasure chest, and there’s also the red galaxy thing

[nova crane]

anyone knwo when the next UR event is?

[soft raft]

Bismarck Zwei rerun this week on the 19th

we most likely wont see a new gacha UR until September

[left cedar]

red galaxy on center map is "Arbiter"
face one is "bosses"
treasure chest is hidden

arbiter is a "hard" fight with quite a rewards, have 2 "stages" Normal and Hard, normal being alot more rewards, hard one a bit more pain in the ass with quite less resourcer

Bosses are called abyss, having 3 dificulties, C4, C5 and C6

tresure are easier and autoable after u get the fog done

[eternal basalt]

Unless DR, those are next month

[left cedar]

well, gacha UR means from gacha, not from research

[eternal basalt]

Some can see the PR releases as a "UR event"

[left cedar]

well i have no arguments after that, Einstein already say about humanity lacking of IQ moments ...

[nova crane]

nice, hopefully its mogador lol i bought the skin but i cant even use it 😭

[boreal temple]

who flags wolfpack again?

[nova crane]

what does DR stand for

[eternal basalt]

Decisive Rank

[soft raft]

Mogador was part of Alsace's event
and that wont be rerunning for a while since it ran May 2024

[eternal basalt]

Mogador will rerun when BisII does now Next year

[soft raft]

(or at least, theoretically cuz who knows if they'll change the order)

[sweet delta]

mogador isn't a new gacha UR

[nova crane]

[eternal basalt]

We will know how they rerun the store UR's in january

[nova crane]

in other words 1 year MINIMUM

[eternal basalt]

No, 2 years minimum

[nova crane]

absolute cinema

id have graduated by then 🔥

[soft raft]

it's been 1 year since Alsace ran so he's technically correct

[eternal basalt]

Mogador we got past CN anni

[boreal temple]

is this a valid setup

[crisp geode]

Any way to change the fleets im using on OPS?

[sweet delta]

it is a valid setup for chapter 15 except that u-96 does have a unique augment which is a good investment if you go with wolves

[soft raft]

Go to a Blue port -> Order -> Fleet formation

[crisp geode]

I did that, but couldnt add/remove ships that i didnt include on the initial setup

[boreal temple]

oooop gotcha thanks for the heads up

[soft raft]

Are you sure you didnt go to a Red port by mistake?

it specifically has to be a blue port

[crisp geode]

I went to NY city, i'm still on ch1

I set up this fleet when i had just started AL because of the tutorial