gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

He'll get cooked either way

[paper ore]

ah. oka

[topaz smelt]

just as stable, pretty much any vg works

[cobalt rapids]

chappy with aug on light(dds) should be quite higher than mainz

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Although you're doing the wrong series

You should set your research focus to series 4

[slender linden]

what series

[paper ore]

which is better to +13 for eldridge survival? the manjuu aug or the washing machine

[strong tartan]

4

[slender linden]

what does it do

[atomic abyss]

Why would Eld use a washing machine...?

[paper ore]

cuz im noob

[worldly pewter]

4 is not recommended anymore since it is retired

[atomic abyss]

Destroyers don't use washing machine

[ocean trout]

gear for those? prefeably pictures bcs im not good with names

[paper ore]

and mine keeps almost dying in kawakaze

[topaz smelt]

4 is the recc, its just better than every other pr

[atomic abyss]

Which is expected yes

God why are they all at stranger...

[cobalt rapids]

start with what you think suits your goals

[tame jungle]

he just books everything

[atomic abyss]

Did you just book them without using them?

Well there go 6% stats ig

[paper ore]

so instead of washing machine put an aug with hp yeah? HP aux and manjuu

[gusty moth]

rough

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Tldr
All destroyers use HP

[topaz smelt]

so can someone explain autoloader alsace?

[paper ore]

ok. danke

[atomic abyss]

Alsace without loader doesn't meet the 5th salvo

[topaz smelt]

maybe on oathless

and mk7

[atomic abyss]

Yes rice

Besides goose

[topaz smelt]

liongun alsace?

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure most of us here use unoathed

And are using lion gun on well, lion currently

[cobalt rapids]

liongun alsace needs 18 bb rld and oath

[topaz smelt]

she seems to shoot pretty early to me, like ends with like 2s left

[hollow gust]

[topaz smelt]

let me tune down tech

[cobalt rapids]

even lion gun alsace 18/200 trades 12th lion volley but that is worth it but trading for more lion volleys is not

[ocean trout]

anyone? pls

[topaz smelt]

2s left for lion, prob gets 2 salvos off

but im over the bb fleet, elds too unstable

idk if the trade off is worth

[atomic abyss]

If you don't have enough plygun, use 155 kai

[hollow gust]

, when did 155kai become a 2nd alternative to quad152

[gusty moth]

when this says 5 second cooldown, does it mean 5 second cooldown on activation or 5 second cooldown whenever it fires its guns?

[topaz smelt]

if the argument was it ends the fight faster id take it

[worldly pewter]

this beside the 200 💍 -> 50

[worldly pewter]

is that different ?

as far as i understood it activates on firing the gun

[ocean trout]

is that he wpn u speaking off?

[gusty moth]

what I mean is that is the 5 second cooldown when it activates the skill, or is the 5 second cooldown every single time it fires a gun

[slender linden]

what gun is used for her

[gusty moth]

if it's the former the skill activations can overlap

[stark quiver]

You should take a plygun off jintsuu meta since you are not using jint

[cobalt rapids]

should be the former pretty sure

[ocean trout]

i do tho in pvp

[cobalt rapids]

i nerfed rld by 11 since that is oath and looked and lion doesnt get the 2nd salvo off

[worldly pewter]

if the skill resets its cooldown it should be mentioned in the description
hence why sometimes the devs release raff like skills

[strong tartan]

isn't it better to use the baguette gun over the 155 kai in this case

[topaz smelt]

i dropped by 10 and lion shot when there was 2s left on clock

[cobalt rapids]

this is the last frame before battle ends with 2nd salvo in the air

[topaz smelt]

boss died before anything else but 2s is usually more than enough

[cobalt rapids]

i mean i had to put naboli over aurora in coz otherwise i almost kill it in 3 strikes yea

[worldly pewter]

use a strong main gun

[topaz smelt]

11 also cuts alsace by an extra rld

[cobalt rapids]

true but i wonder if that covers the distance

idt so

[atomic abyss]

No
Just steal the main guns Noshio and Jeanne are using then

If you insist on not giving them plygun cos they're on your pvp ships

[topaz smelt]

but either way, fuck lion

[atomic abyss]

Which is frankly questionable unless you're telling me you're pushing for top 100 or sth

[molten zinc]

btw does Eldridge/Aurora/Z52 with Alsace flag or Eldridge/Aurora/Ply with Lion flag better for you?

[ocean trout]

i dont expect to oneshot the meta boss, 2 hits is enough like always

[topaz smelt]

im on the chappy boat now

[cobalt rapids]

did u move to the chappy comp ?

[topaz smelt]

im prob sticking to this

[cobalt rapids]

better surv vs more dmg
if u overkill go with z52 for vg surv consistency

both comps should have alsace flag

[topaz smelt]

ye as long as you dont have to deal with aurora

[paper ore]

so lion has 192 reload when 200 affinity?

[molten zinc]

[topaz smelt]

but eld is always the issue

[gusty moth]

im not sure you understand my question

I'm asking if you can roll the 4% only once every 5s or every time you fire the gun

[hollow gust]

so many people talking shit about eagle and saying Nahkimov >. In the end Yorky supremacy

[cobalt rapids]

210 vs 199 with tech yes

[topaz smelt]

can prob just swap fritz for lion anyways

[paper ore]

ok ty ty

[ocean trout]

2 issues with napoli, i need a replacement for the beaver augment and her 2nd gun.

[worldly pewter]

i understood ur question but u might be not very familiar to the cooldown notion

[cobalt rapids]

when poverty then use 155kais like ender said
how do u not have beaver badge ? just use a collab eva aux then

[ocean trout]

i have it on pvp

[gusty moth]

how does it work then?

[atomic abyss]

plymouth gets plymouth gun
aurora and napoli get the triple 152 on noshiro and jeanne

[worldly pewter]

if the skill doesn't have any cooldown reset then it will be on cooldown with the duration mentioned

[atomic abyss]

use any other gold evasion aux (not the SG radar) for napoli

[gusty moth]

giving an example: if there is a gun with a 1s cooldown, it will roll the 4% every 1s until it activates, then it goes on a 5s cooldown, correct?

[atomic abyss]

5s cooldown on activation of skill

[dreamy blade]

(or just...swap the beaver badge from whoever you use in pvp...)

[atomic abyss]

he's too lazy to even swap plyguns

[gusty moth]

okay thank you

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message skills like this go on cd on activation not on proc attempt

[worldly pewter]

the skill activation which is the trigger is separated from the skill itself

[ocean trout]

this one is fine?

[frozen stag]

is there a guide for opsi? like the main goals and stuff currently chaper 4 and im just clearing the zones i havent been in

[cobalt rapids]

yea its good

[gusty moth]

my bad missed the message. I will keep that in mind

[cobalt rapids]

clear anything with an icon above it

[atomic abyss]

clear chapter 4
clear everything with an icon or swirl

[frozen stag]

abt the research stuff for the higher tiered guns do you just get the mats by just playing opsi actively

[paper ore]

yeah

[atomic abyss]

yes

[ocean trout]

anything off?or am i good for vanguard

[paper ore]

whats the verdict on lvl 2 hidden zones? convert the loggers directly to vouchers or gamble for a meowfficer and pray

[atomic abyss]

i personally just do them

[worldly pewter]

looks good enough
2 shots shouldn't be that difficult

[frozen stag]

for the purple coin thing in opsi what do you usually buy them on i assume its the file one i currently have a ur one in ny port so ill buy it if its needed

[teal ice]

how long does the happines gets sparkling joy?

[atomic abyss]

as long as their morale remains between 120-150

[crisp raven]

they convert to 10 vouchers. thats nothing, esp if youre clearing normal and hard arby each month. i clear them on the off chance i get a cat node.

[teal ice]

uhh they are upset rn

[ocean trout]

so now its bb.
what is the gun from NJ event? and which of these is the lion gun?
i need to use alsace bismark 2 and soyuz ( bcs lion skills still at 1)

[atomic abyss]

1st floor dorm rate is 40/h
2nd floor dorm rate is 50/h
upset means 0-30

[cobalt rapids]

hidden 2 dont have cat nodes and dont drop gold plates so just skip

[worldly pewter]

u sure know which gun u got recently from the lion event shop right ?

[ocean trout]

i do not, i just buy and dont pay attention to it, so the answer is no

[atomic abyss]

blue for alsace
red for Bis2 and Soyuz

[teal ice]

bruh i only have 2 dorm space at F1 and its occupied by my ship that going to be upgraded plus i am collecting gems for amagi skin

[atomic abyss]

do not upgrade the rainbow guns anything past +10 if you have no idea what you are doing

[atomic abyss]

dorm exp is 🐌

[teal ice]

yes

[atomic abyss]

so

[paper ore]

I clear all 72 zones in 1 day or 2 days. including harbiter, strongholds and sirens xD

[atomic abyss]

use them for morale

also amagi skin isnt evn coming anytime soon

[ocean trout]

even if i have enough recources?

[crisp raven]

hidden 2 can spawn 1 cat node. its random, but possible. and that cat node can then give gold plates. i dont think i have a ss of one, but i have mine still to clear this month, so ill keep an eye out for one to ss.

[atomic abyss]

yes
because you have no idea what you're doing, do you?

[cobalt rapids]

im pretty sure 1 and 2 dont spawn cat nodes

[ocean trout]

nope i have 0 idea

[teal ice]

yeah still collecting

[atomic abyss]

rainbow guns consume an obscene amount of resources

[paper ore]

fairly sure 2 can spawn one. its random and RNG dependent tho like NoOne said

[atomic abyss]

and the gain from +10 to +12 is little compared to +12 to +13

[teal ice]

if you wait it out how long is it?

[ocean trout]

i see

[atomic abyss]

20/h

so uh, 6h at least

[teal ice]

welp its gonna be long grind

soooo long

[atomic abyss]

this is what we mean by skins kill your QoL

[cobalt rapids]

[worldly pewter]

cat nodes start from c3 is a common knowledge unless u have an evidence for it spawning in c2

[tame jungle]

cat nodes spawn at 2
source: trust me bro

[paper ore]

I can try doing my hidden zones and see if one pops up

[ocean trout]

to save yaals time is alacea gear rest (everything except the maingun) the exact same as bismark 2?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[crisp raven]

i have gotten them in hidden 2. but i dont think i have a ss showing it, and i have no interest in trying to find it lol. ill keep an eye on my hidden 2 zones for this month and post the ss if i find one.

[ocean trout]

ok thank you for the help guys

[cobalt rapids]

please do because cn wiki doesnt list hidden 2 as a possible spawn point for cats

[ocean trout]

oh one last question who is in the middle for bb and who is leftmost and middle in vanguard?

[hollow ridge]

guys i just redownloaded what is this ultra rare exchange thing - Trafalgar? how to get her?

[atomic abyss]

alsace middle
ply on the right
no other changes

[deft kettle]

does unicorn in her retro form improve healing?

[atomic abyss]

not obtainable anymore - event is over

[hollow ridge]

oh damm

[atomic abyss]

yes, massively

[deft kettle]

great, just got my first retro which is her

[paper ore]

tried 2 so far. no luck.
also, best zone to rerun for gold plates and meowfficers is c3? or c5?

[slow fox]

misinformationhex

[cobalt rapids]

they also say this btw
so unless u or @crisp raven can provide proof then as far as im concerned h2 doesnt have cat nodes

[cobalt rapids]

c3 and c5 have equivalent gold plates ( cat nodes ) per ap spent but c3 has higher chance of akashi per ap

[paper ore]

so more retries with c3 oka

[molten zinc]

C3 is better unless you need to burn 3k AP last minute

[crisp raven]

will do. ill report back if/when i get a cat spawn lol. only so many attempts per month, but hopefully it wont take long to ss a current cat spawn in hidden 2.

[paper ore]

0 AP rn and 0 AP boxes

[paper ore]

yee. I'll run my remaining 6 when AP is replenished. see if I get lucky

[sinful escarp]

also if you are running on auto, dont forget to check the box where it says to stop for merchant and to check on it from time to time

[paper mural]

What are some of the best teams for Kawakaze META?

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

[rapid grail]

ig you can backread up here to find some fleets; copying homework recommended

[thorny field]

Help build ples

[worldly pewter]

why show uni ss

[tame jungle]

oh wow i've never seen this ship before

[worldly pewter]

corsair or golden hellcat as fighter
barracuda as torpedo
2 catapults in aux

[turbid dawn]

Is there a 100% clear rate with this meta fight? It seems 50/50 wether I do 98% or 100%. The only thing is I don’t have Trafalgar levelled because I’m out of cog chips

[worldly pewter]

usually lion would do more damage

i mean the one that shows on the final screen

[turbid dawn]

The past 3 fights consistently it has been all 3 equal

[worldly pewter]

ur eld and z52 are actually doing very good damage too

[atomic abyss]

yes
but besides raising traf, nothing that can be solved in the short term

(it's tech)

[worldly pewter]

maybe tech

[turbid dawn]

I’m actually doing pretty well with tech I believe, they all get 4 salvos and strikes off with 1s to spare

And that’s the gear I currently have

[worldly pewter]

do u have spare ply guns ?

[turbid dawn]

I don’t, I only have 1 atm

[atomic abyss]

not enough then

[turbid dawn]

No wait, 2 sorry

[atomic abyss]

i mean you're already oathed so that helps a lot

[worldly pewter]

bowgun is better than sword with aurora ?

[atomic abyss]

traf shd fix the problems if your tech is already there

[cobalt rapids]

u want alsace firiing before lion
copy the gear in here #gameplay-help message

[hollow gust]

Plymouth and Trafalgar are flat better then z52/aurora

[cobalt rapids]

also u run aurora switch to fp gear then because ure overcapping on hit

[worldly pewter]

most likely it is alsace firing second because of the rld diff ?

[cobalt rapids]

it is because of the gun difference

[stark quiver]

I have no tech and run 100% wr with lion gun on lion
And mk7 autoloader on alsus

[turbid dawn]

That is tech btw if your interested idk how it’s looking overall tbh

[worldly pewter]

very high fp tech compared to someone i know very much

[paper ore]

dayum almost maxed for RLD and HIT

[stark quiver]

Who may that be

[paper ore]

really wish I got lucky with aurora. shes so elusive

[stark quiver]

Wishing well was just here
Also just do 1 light pull a day and pray

[worldly pewter]

almost max on fp not rld

[cobalt rapids]

yes ur tech is fine u just need to fine tune stuff for the last oomf of dmg
but if u dont wanna go the extra mile ( like why use a 35 fp gun on lion just because lazy ) then yea

[worldly pewter]

rld is kinda on the low side

[paper ore]

hes off by 4 for reload....

[stark quiver]

Rld is fine

[hollow gust]

Lion is your hyper carry, should be focusing on buffing her

[stark quiver]

[worldly pewter]

4 of 18 is 22%

[paper ore]

doing that yeah

[stark quiver]

Idk where I got my aurora from
Probably from doom pulling perma

[cobalt rapids]

he has oathed backline but just run loader alsace because it should overkill with aurora anyway
and better to keep z52 for extra surv on vanguard

[fleet berry]

I just clear everything with the Hidden Zone logger. Less headache since Strategic Search will change zones automatically for me.

But, I never buy C2 and below from the port shop.

[turbid dawn]

Yeah it seems just giving her a +13 ply gun and swapping white for black she really increased her damage by a lot

[cobalt rapids]

[crimson glacier]

i dont think plygun needs 13

[cobalt rapids]

ply gun can be +0 yes but the fp helps

[turbid dawn]

I really should start farming ply guns but when that PR started I stopped playing for ages so yeah I lack them with trying to catch up on the other PR gear sadly

Trying to get 3rd fighter from this PR and will try to start farming them

[cobalt rapids]

well luckily it wont be long till they get added to gearlab so save ur t3 ords ( idk but most likely )

and by not long i mean 6 months or so

[stark quiver]

9 months 🫃

[silver lintel]

How many tenrai should I have

[stark quiver]

2 is fine
One for nano one for amagi
Implac uses double tb

Could get more for not gearswapping

[worldly pewter]

spending 6 months of farming for gear swapping might be not the best use case for this imo

but i crafted the 3rd tenrai

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I should be fine for ords I think wish I had more AA ones though so I could get 6 of the new UR one, I do have over 100 of the ones I can convert but idk if it’s worth it or not

[cobalt rapids]

just convert when needed

[turbid dawn]

Do you think it’s worth to convert just to get up to 6 then?

[sharp socket]

if my tech is not high can i oneshot without support barrage

[stark quiver]

Probably not

[cobalt rapids]

i mean ull get more till they get added anyway

[stark quiver]

You need oaths and a lot of +13 and might come short still

[cobalt rapids]

ah u mean for AA, i mean u can but check if you have other prios for the mats
i have 5 myself but i feel like 3 are more than enough

[balmy matrix]

I just got back from irl busyness and barely plays al except the bare minimum to this point so the ships and gears are mostly untouched for months. I got some motivation to play again and want to know which ship need to be swapped for at least better ship in opsi?

[worldly pewter]

without knowing ur dock and depot it is hard to know how to make these better but they look fine aside from the mob fleet
replace percy with uni

[steep sleet]

If I temporarily delete the game ,what shall I do to save the progress and my account?

[worldly pewter]

also uvh flag is kinda weird u can put indep flag

[atomic abyss]

https://imgur.com/a/lgXYNAU

[steep sleet]

I have connected my Google account to Al ,so It is considered as binding?

[atomic abyss]

no

AL has no google bind

unless you mean you used your gmail as an email for the email binding/yostar account

@steep sleet

[steep sleet]

I see,I meant that xD

[balmy matrix]

Alr then so no need to worry about to deal the suicide boat?

I put it there to deal with that actually

[worldly pewter]

is there a situation where the suicidal boats are a threat outside of the harbiter ?

[wet badge]

What does laff2 do

/ what is she used for

[woven star]

Damage reduction tank. At least one of other role

[worldly pewter]

tank in w14 15

[storm olive]

Reduce enemy AA, pretty good personal AA, tanky

[wet badge]

Wth dd as a tank?????

[worldly pewter]

one of the lineups in w15 is 3 DDs

[wind oxide]

She tanks better than a tank

[wet badge]

Is there a point in farming w15

[wind hazel]

yes, for houston II

and cog chips at 15-1

[wet badge]

Isnt she mid?

[wind hazel]

yes, but tech and collection%

[wet badge]

O

[balmy matrix]

It seems my knowledge had worn off lately and overthinking it so ill try swap to see

[storm olive]

She gets damage reduction, has good AA stat, and caps damage received in any one instance. She is one of the tankiest ships in w15

[wet badge]

Ic

[storm olive]

Suicide boats are such a non-issue in 99% of opsi where triple CV mob is preferred by alot of people to save time (BBs have a time slow every time they fire)

[wet badge]

When the guam event dropped did soyuz drop right after

[worldly pewter]

there were no instance where 2 new ur were back to back

[wooden osprey]

when will we get new pr ships?

i thought it's june that they get announced

[worldly pewter]

most likely around 10 july

[wooden osprey]

[worldly pewter]

they start teasing them in the first 10 days i think

[wooden osprey]

ah, i see

[stark quiver]

Commander level

[eager marsh]

this barely reach 50% and sometimes can't even survive till timeout. warspite has old lady. any suggestion?

[stark quiver]

What’s this for?

[eager marsh]

kawa meta

[stark quiver]

Uhh I recommend dropping warspite, uvh and St. Louis

[eager marsh]

warspite uvh in place of other bbs?

i don't have other bbs

[rigid lantern]

Jimmy says you have to use Eldridge

[eager marsh]

I also don't have eldridge, i missed her retrofit event

[storm olive]

Do you have Rafaello

[stark quiver]

Almost every other UR bb in game is better?

Hmm
Run a tank, and drop St. Louis
If u have eld retro that’s good, if you don’t then pray
Run gold fire controlradar on your bbs in place of black shells
Use a mk6 on warspite
Sg radar on Helena

[thorny field]

.

[storm olive]

Also swap uvh and lions guns if you keep uvh there, they will jam otherwise

[eager marsh]

those 3 are only ur bbs i have. so no rafaello. hmm these are my gold bbs

oh i have fdg but no one use her for kawa meta

[stark quiver]

Yea.. just follow this and try your best

[eager marsh]

alright ill try

[hoary valley]

who should i do retrofit next

after unicorn and warspite, z23 and portland

[granite sand]

Just for fun, what are the most viable fleets I can take into W14 and/or W15 with the most down bad ladies (e.g., Mogador, FdG, FCarl, Taihou)?

Bonus points if somehow these fleets end up being faction fleets (either as a single nation or coalition - AL/CB/META/Collab)

[tropic tusk]

cant really tell u without u telling us wht u got man i will say laffy2

[whole crypt]

Saratoga

or Independence

[stark quiver]

Laff2 retrofit into UR+

[wind hazel]

laffey2 mark V

[tropic tusk]

im jusit saying random ship xD laffy2 was the first one that pops up my mind

[stark quiver]

[tropic tusk]

i guess Eldridge will be a better example

[whole crypt]

Eldridge needs an item so

[tropic tusk]

my main poit is the guy doesnt show wht he has

its just like me saying can u tell me which one i have beside unicorn that does the most damage

[shut hedge]

how do you delete augments equips?

[tropic tusk]

yellow or purple and blue

[stark quiver]

[wind hazel]

craft purple/yellow augment with the blue ones

just like meowfficers

absorb the useless kittens

[granite sand]

tbf it's just because a lot of the more OP ships these days are also down atrocious so there should be a lot of them now to make a whole fleet of them

[hoary valley]

screenshots doesnt sent then sorry

one sec

[granite sand]

but I am also no min-maxer so I thought I'd ask lol

[atomic abyss]

Well

I wouldn't mind

[wind hazel]

all of them are downbad 👍🏼

[atomic abyss]

But

At least

[stark quiver]

Zuihou isn’t

[atomic abyss]

You tell us which are the "down bad ships"

And then from there we make the comp if possible

[stark quiver]

I think it’s the titty monsters

[atomic abyss]

Why is warspite even on the list

[hoary valley]

haha it was 5 years ago

[atomic abyss]

Even then she wasn't a priority

Even now with her newly released augment she isn't a high priority

[hoary valley]

idk why i thought she was strong

[wind hazel]

UR=strong

[hoary valley]

i think i dont need any CV, maybe need more vanguard powerful ships

[atomic abyss]

Well

[storm olive]

She might be one of the stronger SR BBs now surely

[hoary valley]

finally

[atomic abyss]

Fairly lacking in the tank department

Start researching anchorage

Finish up saint louis and roon with coins

FdG can be delayed with warspite there

Lion wants MLB asap

Saratoga and Independence shd be invested in as said

[wind hazel]

skip sara, use aquila

[hollow gust]

Where the independence, even then they have Aquila and glorious around . Sara and independence can wait

[hoary valley]

only 547/850 tech points

[hollow gust]

Even nano is around. Leveling a brand new independence or Saratoga is useless when the replacements are available

[hoary valley]

ok st louis alr lv28

big thanks

[atomic abyss]

Time to work towards that then
Otherwise you can work towards agir

[pseudo hearth]

Now hang on, when her Retrofit came out she was practically the strongest BB in the game.

[hoary valley]

alright, I'll keep that in mind

[plain saffron]

so how are war kai now, anything cahnged?

[atomic abyss]

FdG says hi

[atomic abyss]

NJ tier says the preliminary tests

In all seriousness

[plain saffron]

good enough for me

[atomic abyss]

Back when Warkai came out, as much as she was the strongest BB on light after fdg

The gap was enormous

[plain saffron]

considering this is my fleet

[atomic abyss]

I think it was like 70% of FdG?

[wind hazel]

no gacha account?

[atomic abyss]

I think it was lower actually

And the issue back then was

"Priority" if you actually had the item

[stark quiver]

NagamiNoGacha moment

[atomic abyss]

If you didn't have the item

[plain saffron]

maybe i should combine all 3 META as one fleet then another one fdg warkai and another BB

[atomic abyss]

FdG Warkai Dork

[hollow gust]

You can run nano now at least , shes free

[atomic abyss]

Assuming your handbook selector went to Nano and not NJ

[plain saffron]

right i forgot she exist

[granite sand]

Main Fleet: NJ, Implacable, Yorktown II, UvH, FdG, Clemenceau, Akagi, Kaga, Musashi, Alsace, Shokaku, Zuikaku, Soyuz, Raffaello, Taihou, Lion, Franklin

[plain saffron]

nano in the last rookie mission?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Nano or NJ selector

Oh that is the down bad list

[hollow gust]

Post your dock , a list of names is useless as fuck

[plain saffron]

are wiki updated yet

[atomic abyss]

He wanted to build a w14/15 clear fleet with "down bad ships"
And that's the down bad ship list

[plain saffron]

pls don't tell me there's build x ships mission

[atomic abyss]

You can probably skip it tho

You don't need to complete all the missions to progress to the next phase

[plain saffron]

so only 1 at most in each tier?

[stark quiver]

Yea

Good luck
Highest is build 60

[warped acorn]

how much diff is w14 and 15

[plain saffron]

is it just same mission with higher number?

[atomic abyss]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VJ12iQu8IdKQ0ss29c_KZ5BGk5BXT0mtwZoOuZMAuaE

[atomic abyss]

Very

Though w15 comps will work for 14

[warped acorn]

oh what

[atomic abyss]

The opposite isn't the case

[stark quiver]

Oh right this reminds me, I forgot to finish the wiki handbook page

[plain saffron]

please use a table

[stark quiver]

It’s in Sam’s sandbox

[crimson glacier]

difference between w13 and w14 is like w8 vs w11

[granite sand]

Vanguard: Guam, Unzen, Mogador, Atago, Takao, Belfast, Scylla, Sirius, Pittsburgh, Hindenburg, St. Louis, Golden Hind, Fancy, Zara, Pola, Duisburg, D7P, Cleopatra, Eugen, Carl

[wind hazel]

what are you yapping about 😭

[granite sand]

Surprisingly not a lot of ships actually have down atrocious lines - most are kinda sheepish about it (e.g., Kashino)

[storm olive]

It's the guy who wanted w15 fleets with down bad ships

[wind hazel]

ah ok understandable 👍🏼

[plain saffron]

i thought we're supposed to be the down bad one, not the ships

[storm olive]

This

[granite sand]

If I missed some ships please feel free to add lmao

[granite sand]

See if the map is gonna be atrocious, then my fleet has to be down atrocious too

[atomic abyss]

Ruxience Fleet

[orchid reef]

what gear on agir on boss fleet
also by what she will be replaced: saint louis, ibuki, de zven provincien

[atomic abyss]

High performance steering gear (aka gold rudder)
+Toolbox or other evasion gear

None of those ships listed replace her - they're not tanks

[orchid reef]

i meant like, i will put agir there but by what ship she will be replaced so agir will be there

[atomic abyss]

Ahhh

Probably replace de seven
And I would move her to the left most of the fleet

[orchid reef]

okay

what gear (guns)

[split jetty]

what are the priorities for gems as a new player?

[storm olive]

Does w15 boss want desync or not I don't remember

[atomic abyss]

You always want desync for campaign usually

[stark quiver]

Do /gems in bot spam channel

[atomic abyss]

/gems command

[storm olive]

Does this also apply to yk2 teams where it would mean yk2 slower than the other EU CV

[orchid reef]

since idk what on agir as guns

[stark quiver]

What?
Well yea never sync or else you explode

[atomic abyss]

Agir

Ibuki

Saint Louis

[orchid reef]

small case

[atomic abyss]

At least that's the minimum

[orchid reef]

i dont have 3rd high perfomance

[atomic abyss]

Do you have a beaver badge

[orchid reef]

i dont have the agir gun 1st, same with saint louis one
and i dont have that

[atomic abyss]

Saint Louis just wants any good HE ammo gun

Doesn't have to be that one

Agir has no cheaper alternative

[atomic abyss]

That works fine

[atomic abyss]

Check your depot -> craft

[atomic abyss]

Oh dear

[warped acorn]

beaver badge is for tanks right?

[late flame]

sadge

[atomic abyss]

Well

[orchid reef]

i can use the hidenburg one btw (if so)

[atomic abyss]

There is this...

The one on spee

[orchid reef]

spee is in mob fleet well
can level it up i suppose

[atomic abyss]

But at that point I think the gold CA gun there is better...

[orchid reef]

or i can replace spee with provincien if its better choice

[orchid reef]

what one

[atomic abyss]

The spare one

[orchid reef]

oh

[atomic abyss]

Yes, de seven would be better than spee

[orchid reef]

this one right

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[teal ice]

is it overkill to go all in on this
oh and laffey got a golden gun from the crate in the guild shop

[atomic abyss]

It's uh

Worse than the purple twin 120 so lol

[teal ice]

its still lv17 almost 18

[arctic aspen]

have they made corrosion level 6 the best to farm yet?

[atomic abyss]

No

[arctic aspen]

[atomic abyss]

Go all in on what

[teal ice]

my friend Account is a joke here

[teal ice]

the lv its 70 and laffey is 90

[atomic abyss]

On who

[teal ice]

its practically aoverkill

[atomic abyss]

Magdeburg? Jeanne?

[arctic aspen]

wait corrosion 3 is best for akashis?

[atomic abyss]

3 or 5

[orchid reef]

k made this

[teal ice]

the level bruh on my 1 fleet

[stark quiver]

Wasup gph, what does someone do when they scrap hedgehog, use what other asw aux?

[orchid reef]

just i need to lvl it up if its good

[late flame]

depth charge ig

[atomic abyss]

The purple advanced depth charge

[arctic aspen]

so 3 would be better if you took time out of the equation, or are they just literally the same but longer?

[dreamy blade]

ghost asw like eldridge, gold asw planes

[stark quiver]

[dreamy blade]

but really the answer is: cry

[atomic abyss]

Use black rock shooter over Tennessee
Use Chang Chun over Magdeburg

[orchid reef]

alr i suppose its good xd

[atomic abyss]

Remove autoloader

Give her a blue evasion auxiliary
Like the naval camo

[teal ice]

even tho black rock still npc?

[atomic abyss]

You don't need to do much to get her
Especially if you are using her

And Tennessee is like, 2nd worst BB in the game lol

[teal ice]

bruh its a starter and i was gonna pull on heavy when it got the money

[atomic abyss]

Pennsylvania is already better, and is from the guild shop

[late flame]

b-but +1 bb rld kek

[orchid reef]

ish good?

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Sandwich Ibuki in the middle

[teal ice]

thats why i didn't build Tennessee

[atomic abyss]

So just use black rock shooter instead

[orchid reef]

yes its already :3

[teal ice]

just let it be

[atomic abyss]

Especially since tenne is level 12

[orchid reef]

-# now i need 1 more ur bullin to mlb lion and i have better also

[teal ice]

i gonna scrap it after i got new bb

[turbid patrol]

Guys where do i get this

[teal ice]

but zamn early stage give very little money

[atomic abyss]

Event which is over

[teal ice]

its already ended

[late flame]

2 years later

[storm olive]

You can't anymore, that event finished

[turbid patrol]

Oh welp did i miss any important thing i havent play for 2 months

[hollow gust]

lion solves all issues

[storm olive]

You missed the best UR BB in the game

[turbid patrol]

Anyway to get her?

[late flame]

time skip 2 years

[atomic abyss]

Wait 2 years

[storm olive]

Wait like 2 years for her rerun

[turbid patrol]

Fair

[storm olive]

And if you miss that then another year for archive

[turbid patrol]

Miss what?

[late flame]

rerun

[stark quiver]

Understandable

[storm olive]

And by then she will be powercrept

[plain saffron]

like this?

[atomic abyss]

I feel like

You can get better ARA options

But I suppose she has it too?

Wait that is Bellona right

[plain saffron]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Umu
Is that Warkai augment

[plain saffron]

in few seconds yes

[atomic abyss]

Probably can flag her then

[teal ice]

where can you get money easily on starter account

[atomic abyss]

Nowhere

[atomic abyss]

Handbook missions don't give much coin anymore

[turbid marsh]

purchase those gems and buy them packs. otherwise try to grind to w9 or d maps in events i guess

[teal ice]

sadly no

[frozen stag]

i need a 12-4 team im bleeding so much oil from doing 2 fleets currently going for sandy kai

[atomic abyss]

For clearing?
Or farming

[teal ice]

f2p bruh

[frozen stag]

gold/exp farming since im quite under lvled for w13 yet

[atomic abyss]

Uh

Then there's no way to save oil

[late flame]

f||irst ||2 p||ay||

[frozen stag]

oh

[atomic abyss]

/oilcap exists

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[atomic abyss]

So you're already saving a shit ton of oil

[teal ice]

free 2 play🗿

[atomic abyss]

1.9k oil for like 6 runs

[late flame]

bro probably getting pwned (would be funny if still lost with lv125 sushi)

[atomic abyss]

Is as low as you get for 12-4 realistically

[stark quiver]

11-3 lore?

[frozen stag]

so is just wasting all my oil into 12-4 worth then im also using the thing that doubles gold for 3 sorties

[atomic abyss]

Wait

[atomic abyss]

You're currently wasting the oil by using 125 ships

[plain saffron]

is it kunai or dagger the bad one?

[atomic abyss]

So if you want to not waste the oil

Don't use 125 ships

[frozen stag]

oh

[late flame]

kunai

[atomic abyss]

You can farm 12-4 with much lower level ships

[frozen stag]

erm uhhh ion think i have a single goodship that kills hyoukai that isnt musashi

[atomic abyss]

Don't single fleet

2 fleets

[late flame]

dang single fleeting in w12

[atomic abyss]

Throw your 125 or similar level ships on the boss fleet

Then the under levelled stuff like sandy for the mob

[frozen stag]

so basically i still try to clear with mob as usual then clean up with boss?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Instead of 1 fleeting and wasting oil with lv 125 ships

[storm olive]

Wait an I not supposed to use 1 fleet for levelling and a second for crossfleets that never enters battle

[plain saffron]

how do i make warkai slower

is there faster 406 mle for AP

[storm olive]

380mm flandre gun

[frozen stag]

i gotta ask is doing the 1,2k oil commission still worth if im just dumping all my oil in 12-4 currently for more gold

[plain saffron]

how much dmg difference

ouh fuck i just remembered i need to buyout the event shop

[atomic abyss]

12-4
4.5k coins in 3 runs without double

For about 900 oil

[frozen stag]

okok thanks

[turbid marsh]

its like what, 2 times less exp or something?

[atomic abyss]

You can
If your cross is strong enough

[plain saffron]

this?

hmm quite a lot dmg missing againts heavy

ouh the new UR gun is slower, is it good?

nvm it's HE

welp dork have no dmg anyway

[storm olive]

Didnt you want to slow down warkai

[plain saffron]

ouh right

[storm olive]

Try Soyuz gun on warkai

[plain saffron]

nvm it's right, that can work, i just need dork to be faster than warkai

[wind hazel]

autoloader it up

[plain saffron]

this should be better since more dmg

war kai 2006 soyuz gun
fdg 2086 champy gun + table
dork 2067 champy gun + radar

fdg keeps getting faster

change dork to flandre or autoload her up is better

[atomic abyss]

Rmb FdG has that weird odd even salvo thing

[molten zinc]

isn't FDG have RLD buff every odd salvo?

[atomic abyss]

That she does

[plain saffron]

yeah but it's faster both rn
dork already have it

[atomic abyss]

Just give dork a hpfcr

[plain saffron]

also wtf fdg is with no affinity rn

[grand solar]

Well if I had tried a little harder there was a good chance I could have made nearly 70k in the last event. Though sadly I was not able to bring all the hard mode nodes down to Safe before the event ended.

[molten zinc]

you overwork FDG?

[atomic abyss]

Nagami...

[plain saffron]

🏃‍♂️

so change to flandre gun or auto load lose less dmg

[teal ice]

how long when you offline that the homecoming events starts?

[eager marsh]

domestic ship violence

[plain saffron]

Fdg is faster than dork on all salvo except first one what is happening

[gray yarrow]

what's the best plane vs light armor, is it this one?

[crimson glacier]

I mean isnt that how fdg works

[plain saffron]

Isn't it odd/salvo

[crimson glacier]

yeah but its not like she suddenly becomes slower than usual

if she gets far enough ahead she will just shoot first anyway

[plain saffron]

Ouh right

I forgot about that

so autoloader it is

[warped acorn]

what does aurora do and why do some ppl use her

[crimson glacier]

read her skill

[warped acorn]

oh bruh its for boss fleet.. rip

[eternal moth]

Specifially she's used in META fleets.

[stark quiver]

i forgot to do my meta fights

[ornate narwhal]

So I already bought the monthly white shell, should I buy the black one too? Or save till next month?

[eternal moth]

How many sets of shells do you have>

[ornate narwhal]

1 white

[eternal moth]

You want 3 pairs of white and black

[ornate narwhal]

Oh

Ok I’ll buy it!

[wet badge]

who tf is dork

[fierce furnace]

duke of york

[wet badge]

[hardy creek]

Junyou drops from 12-4 right?

[stark quiver]

/wiki junyou

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junyou
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junyou_META
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junyou/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junyou_META/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junyou_META/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junyou/Gallery

Jun 14, 2025, 1:50 PM

[ornate narwhal]

What is the best stage to farm Saratoga and Nelson/rodney?

[split gazelle]

I wouldn't farm rodney. You can also wait for next event and see if you get any good ships from that.

but for farming probably the highest stage

[turbid marsh]

farm nelson is okay, rodney...

[turbid patrol]

should i retrofit portland or laffey

[split gazelle]

I assume you didn't get Little Agir? probably portland then

[stark quiver]

is there a way to dodge all of kawametas attacks like in ex

[cobalt rapids]

Operation rainbow

[turbid patrol]

i'm new to this game is agir a limited ship if not how do i get her

[split gazelle]

she is now limited yes. she was obtainable a week ago

[crimson glacier]

agir isnt limited, the child version is

[stark quiver]

im thinking lvl 1 helena

[cobalt rapids]

Bruh

Enjoy the torture then

[stark quiver]

i will win

[cobalt rapids]

Nah ud win

[teal ice]

i just got warspite and Tennessee go to the bin

[warped acorn]

is combat data collection worth using? if not, what series of it dont worth?

[ornate narwhal]

How do I upgrade a new fleet? I’m almost at chapter 12 and idk how to upgrade them bc if I just put them at it alone they’ll die immediately

[split gazelle]

do you have 2 fleets?

[ornate narwhal]

Not yet imma build it once I get to lvl 80

[plain saffron]

better to convert to protocore

[split gazelle]

You can start a thread with your dock so someone can help you upgrade your fleet

[ornate narwhal]

Fleet help

[warped acorn]

all series?

[plain saffron]

yes

[warped acorn]

noted thanks

[plain saffron]

idk if the meta changed this past few months

[south sequoia]

raffa gun is the best gun for medium armor right?

[gilded shale]

Where should I farm in w12?

[fair lance]

12-1 for just xp 12-4 for a mix of xp and coins

[tawdry halo]

Hi chat, is this good

[forest palm]

Wouldn't bother with ir

[atomic abyss]

It has it uses
But in 99% of cases, a waste of core data

[gleaming storm]

Can someone help me build my fleets

[tawdry halo]

ok I guess I save up for a second Breguet

And probably a bri'ish pencil shell or two after

Ty nonetheless

[paper ore]

@cobalt rapids @crisp raven C2 hidden

[tropic tusk]

if i have all main fleet UR does zwei still stand a chance on the team?

[atomic abyss]

Yes
She's still used for triple BB

[little plinth]

if you can't enhance a cat that's lvl 30, does that mean if you somehow get one to lvl 30 without maxing its skill that you're screwed?

[primal silo]

UR investment

[broken vortex]

Do i need to literally go clear a stage now to meet the requirements?

[atomic abyss]

Create a thread

[tropic tusk]

nice been waiting for 2 year for her

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Or well you could just terminate it

[soft raft]

Yes
tho why did you even do that research? It's one of the worst ones

[gleaming storm]

Where?

[atomic abyss]

Here

[primal silo]

@atomic abyss
Can you take a look at my next UR investments?
#gameplay-help message

[gleaming storm]

Can someone help me build my fleets?

[broken vortex]

Oh cool thanks for telling me

Ive been trying to figure it out

[soft raft]

/research for future reference

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[frozen stag]

whats the general chances for gold retrofit bp to drop per stage and does getting them to 3 star increase those odds, is even farming them even worth than just full clearing it for the first time for the 2 guranteed gold bp assuming its just a stage that just needs 3 clears to finish

[soft raft]

We have no idea and highly unlikely respectively
You will need to farm stages either way to farm gold BPs

[broken vortex]

I see thank you

[frozen stag]

good to know i only have stage 8 unlocked and im too lazy to grind 9 above so was wondering if just maxxing all the cruiser ones was worth to guarantee sandy mats

[soft raft]

You can 3* to guarentee like 2 SR Mats but the bulk of it will still be from grinding

[atomic abyss]

As far as anecdotal data is concerned

It increases

Just very little

[broken vortex]

Whats a good level to get your ships to before pursuing a second fleet

[tropic tusk]

where in world are u at

[broken vortex]

Uh i just cleared 5-1

[tropic tusk]

yea just keep playing with 1 team till world 9

[broken vortex]

Ok

[soft raft]

At earliest when you get to W9

At the latest W12, but I wouldn't recommend it

[broken vortex]

Ok

[wary timber]

I just realised we got new planes. How good is that skip bomber plane.. I doubt it's any good unless it's somehow good against light armor

[soft raft]

Typical purple plane moment

[atomic abyss]

Shiz

[broken vortex]

I have a bunch of boats i was using what should i use for a single fleet

[atomic abyss]

Do you have lion

[soft raft]

I guess Black Rock/Unicorn/Shinano Portland or Little Agir/Laffey/Reno

Give this a read too https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/newbie_tips/

[broken vortex]

Thanks

[broken vortex]

No

[atomic abyss]

This then

[tropic tusk]

do we have a team for killing the current meta yet?

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

@tropic tusk

[tropic tusk]

3q

wt can replace this?

oh u can just buy it nvm

[atomic abyss]

Core shop

[tropic tusk]

yea i fount it out

3q

[sweet delta]

Beaver might be similar

Hi @slow fox what's the evasion rate difference of beaver vs Albion on plymouth against kwkz

[tropic tusk]

is there any guide for repulse meta?

[atomic abyss]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Guides to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking this out!
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips
• Common Resource Guide
• Research Guide
  and more!

If you are an older player aiming to push endgame content, you can check these out instead!
🔹 META Chronicles by pilica12
🔹 Suchiguma Azur Lane Guides by suchiguma

Contains a list of endgame oriented guides and deeper dives into gameplay mechanics, including:

• Chapter 14 and 15
• Challenge Mode
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[atomic abyss]

I don't think the guide is updated with Kawa admittedly

[tropic tusk]

sadly that meta chronicels has a lot but no repulse

[atomic abyss]

Iirc

[sweet delta]

Soyuz nakhimov someone

[tropic tusk]

i remember the chinese has meta thingy gonna try dig that up

[sweet delta]

What do you recall ?

[tropic tusk]

probly forgot wht his thinking

[atomic abyss]

Rumey

Was what I remembered

But that was renown not repulse

[sweet delta]

Fritz is one of the best of course. The other option is Lion

Repulse is just brute force with damage

And survival

[tropic tusk]

so rumey?

[atomic abyss]

Presumably

[tropic tusk]

or lion better?

[atomic abyss]

🔮

How about test

Like genuinely

[tropic tusk]

[atomic abyss]

That's what I do lol

[tropic tusk]

i never thought about testing

[atomic abyss]

I mean I do it cos sometimes we have individual quirks

[tropic tusk]

ok it does 48% with lion

rumy does like 55% ish looks like she better

[cobalt rapids]

[wind hazel]

[cobalt rapids]

Cn wiki lied to me

[topaz smelt]

Prob a recent change

[cobalt rapids]

Ninja buffing opsi

[topaz smelt]

Or they accidentally broke it

[cobalt rapids]

lol

[soft raft]

Smol indie studio pls understand

[white agate]

what's the problem?

[undone plover]

It was common knowledge c2 hidden had no cat nodes but we have been proven wrong

[sweet delta]

I must credit our Lord and Savior samheart567 with this discovery like 2 years ago

But still it doesn't change the fact that c2 hidden is worse than c3 or c5 safe zone

[paper ore]

agreed

[hollow pier]

Do we know when the next set of research ships come out? It would be my first time seeing research ships release so I have some questions. For example, when new research ships do come out, will season 6 receive the blueprint purchase pity system the earlier 5 seasons have? Do we know around when we might hear about these ships, if at all?

[white agate]

still 2-3 weeks i think?

[inner delta]

those come out different time than pr itself

[hollow pier]

I unlocked all ships from season 1-5 and am slowly getting them to dev30. I feel like itll take a while to get S6 and S7 finished so the idea of S8 coming out now feels overwhelming 👀

[inner delta]

its a perma content

[hollow pier]

Yeah thats fair. The gear is also valuable to grab on the way too I guess

[white agate]

its not like you are oblied to complete all, just get the ship you like and the meta ones easy

[hollow pier]

The woes of being a collector

[uncut raft]

Do combat logistics plans give double exp?

[inner delta]

yes because its a 2 run in 1

[hollow pier]

Yeah thats fair too. I guess I am confused a bit by research because it feels like there are UR gear that people aim for during the season but I am spending so much time on recruitment that it feels impossible to farm multiple copies of gear

[soft raft]

think of the 2x plans as doing two runs at once

[balmy wharf]

Is it possible to auto this month’s challenge mode on hard? If so, what fleet do I need?

[uncut raft]

Alright, thanks you two

[steep sleet]

Is my account properly binded? Can I recover the progress and data later on?

[sweet delta]

Every month is auto able, here are some ideas https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/june

[balmy wharf]

Looks like I’ll have to pick up Biz2 next week and MLB here before the end of the month them

[oblique kraken]

what's the best way to farm EXP for low level ships?

[sweet delta]

Use exp packs on them until they can survive in your normal farming spot like chapter 12

[soft raft]

No real need to rush Challenge mode
The only rewards there are purely cosmetic

[oblique kraken]

If you don't have xp packs

[steep sleet]

Helpp :/

[oblique kraken]

I'm also on chapter 9 with my main fleet so can't farm chapter 12

[soft raft]

It should be
easiest way to test if it is to grab another device and install the game on there

[steep sleet]

Aight,thanks for the confirmation. || I can't afford to download this 22 gb game in another device 😭 to test ||

[balmy wharf]

I was planning to get Bis2 anyways, so I may as well give it a try, by the end of the month I’ll have 8 UR Bulins, assuming the Bis2 event gives one

[sweet delta]

Then there is no good way. Playing anything below chapter 9 is highly inefficient. You should level up your first fleet more so that it becomes safe enough to bring 5 high level and 1 low level ship in chapter 9 or an oil capped war archive

[soft raft]

Have you considered installing a emulator on your computer?

[soft raft]

Yeah all UR events and UR Reruns have a UR Bullin
for reruns its at 15k event points isntead of the usual 30k

[steep sleet]

Don't have computer,only play in phone xD

[white agate]

you should be able to use less than 22 gb if you intall only essential files and then get the other resources you want, for example this way you can avoid 3d dorm spacr usage

[pseudo hearth]

So, curious, what situations would one use Implacable over Nahki and vice versa? Just wanted to get a feel for how they compare.

[sweet delta]

Depends on testing

[hollow trout]

Is it worth sorting a essex class ship with yorktown II or should just use another UR cv

[sweet delta]

Enterprise and Franklin are the options, but kearsarge is a fixture in the fleet so Enterprise would be competing against Implacable

Oh and fritz too

Basically Kear + Yorkii + one of (fritz lion implacable), and Enterprise is a less consistent option

[turbid marsh]

i mean most likely in all situation soy-nakh is better... except the ones that amagi gets prowess on. XD

[hollow trout]

I see hmmm, I have Hakuryuu, Shinano, and Implacable as my other URs, would just work better instead?

[undone plover]

implacable with ykii kear
if u want 2 CV fleets for example for opsi u can do implacable shinano haku fleet1
and kear yorkii enty fleet 2

kear fleet would prefer a slower vanguard like eldridge in this case

for specific fights it would depend on the enemy armor and boss mechanics

[hollow trout]

That could work, I'll do the first fleet for now while working on getting eldridge going

[topaz smelt]

Apparently the answer to no eld is run a healer

[turbid marsh]

for boss?

[soft raft]

KawaM probably

[pseudo hearth]

This reminds me, I can’t remember, but with Nano and Implac, is FS5 Haku or Amagi CV usually better?

[little tree]

Amagi CV Usally is better

[pseudo hearth]

Is it like a big difference or more so of a min-maxing sort of difference?

Why is that?

[last zenith]

got kawakaze meta. whats the fastest way to get a lot of shards to fully mlb her

[paper ore]

do all 3 daily hits and 2 of your daily summons

[undone plover]

I dont have exact numbers but would say amagi CV is a significant upgrade

[last zenith]

o. ok

[undone plover]

amagi own dps is pretty high
plus she buffs all IJN torps including vanguard torps
so she has more personal dps and team dps

[pseudo hearth]

So she’s more of a straight upgrade then?

[undone plover]

pretty much
the other thing that makes haku not as good is her best slot is DB which tend to be not very good
only really good DB is skyraider vs light armor
so maybe haku is competitive in light armor but u wouldnt run IJN for light armor anyway

[pseudo hearth]

Unfortunate, I like Haku more
Oh well, I can still use her in some battles.

[steep sleet]

I see, thanks.i didn't knew that.

[paper walrus]

what does hangar capacity +1 do

[sweet delta]

Allow the carrier to begin reloading her second airstrike if the first one has finished reloading but not been launched

On manual, you can wait 40+ seconds and launch two airstrikes at once

Not relevant on auto besides some very small timing effects

[paper walrus]

ok thanks

[hushed delta]

I've seen Meta ships give fleet tech so, for example, does Jintsuu M give Sakura tech points?

[soft raft]

META ships are their own META Faction so no
tho the obtain & lvl 120 fleet tech bonuses still apply to everyone

[hushed delta]

[dreamy blade]

Agir gun is better than brest gun right, what French gear do people usually use on her

[soft raft]

the French UR AA

tho honestly the buff is for CRIT DMG and AA so it's whatever

[dreamy blade]

what if I don't have any of those

[viscid swift]

Mogador gun isn't the worst option

[dreamy blade]

Don't have that either

[little tree]

What gun is even BRest gun anyways

[soft raft]

the quadruple barrel one

[dreamy blade]

Is the gold dd gun in gear lab any good or do I just ignore the buff then

[forest palm]

both those guns are not worth using

specifically in the screenshot

[forest palm]

are you talking about the new IJN 120, or? cause you'd have to narrow it down

[dreamy blade]

the French one

[soft raft]

This thing

[forest palm]

oh...just use the Twin 57 AA Gun

[dreamy blade]

[forest palm]

it's French

[dreamy blade]

[forest palm]

but yes you could use the 138.6

[hushed delta]

can't you just use a french AA gun?

[forest palm]

we just went over this

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message 💀

[hushed delta]

oh here

[forest palm]

[dreamy blade]

[forest palm]

again just use the 138.6 simplest option

[elfin hollow]

How that skill actually works? No cooldown? Infinite shield?

I dont get it

(Its a frend question)

[sweet delta]

@dreamy blade if not for campaign? ignore the french gear

[hushed delta]

18% chance

[jagged viper]

wait is there a ship thats missing in the archives?

[soft raft]

Retrofits count for collection

[soft raft]

have you done Gloworm's by any chance?

[crimson glacier]

you need to disable show only unowned

[elfin hollow]

Does the skill keep stacking and stay?

[crimson glacier]

and then look at retrofits

[boreal wagon]

the "not obtained" filter doesnt work properly on retrofits because it only checks if you do not own the ship yet not if you do not own the retrofit yet

[jagged viper]

yeah it was glowworm, thanks

[brave bluff]

is there like a tool that helps you know what equipment is best for a ship?

[atomic abyss]

Shields cannot overlap
They don't refresh either

In theory it is possible

[soft raft]

/equip give the first link a read for what's considered good

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[brave bluff]

thanks

[soft raft]

There's this too but do note that it only covers campaign and be sure to read the site's guidelines
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[brave bluff]

so i assume that one doesn't have like event gear?

[soft raft]

no I mean the content that it's suitable for is mostly campaign

both links have event gear included

[brave bluff]

thank you

[crisp raven]

Thank you and good find!! Sorry I was away so I didn't see the ping.

[dreamy blade]

[last swift]

Guys, how do you earn Tech Points?

[wind hazel]

obtain, mlb, and lv120

ship stat tech is only 120

[atomic abyss]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by mrlar

[hushed sorrel]

should i try to only level ships who give tech?

is there a way to quick-check that? (if a certain ship gives tech or not)

[cobalt rapids]

if a ship is a not a collab ship or a child ship or a muse ship it gives tech

[atomic abyss]

From the message above your question

[hushed sorrel]

i know that part but i just got no idea who is and who is not. its 800 ships and i know like 30

i can search each in the wiki yes but that kinda sucks

[atomic abyss]

If they have μ in their name, they're a muse ship

[cobalt rapids]

muse ships have a µ in their name
children have chan or little or something in their name and they are a child version of an existing ship
and collab ships are well collabs

[atomic abyss]

Idk how to make it more clear

[hushed sorrel]

thank you. i guess i will just try

[atomic abyss]

Like it's really obvious

[cobalt rapids]

or use a tool like this https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[hushed sorrel]

the collabs arent? the part with the muse was good didnt know that

[atomic abyss]

Collabs you can just filter out "misc" faction in your dock

[hushed sorrel]

thats cool

[atomic abyss]

Cos all collabs are under misc

[hushed sorrel]

all collabs are in misc? wow ok thank you.

that makes it easy. just no muse, no children and no misc

[violet scroll]

Hello everyone, I have several UR but i don't know which one i should LMB, can you help me with that? here my roster

[atomic abyss]

How many UR bulins do you have/can you get

[violet scroll]

10 UR bulins

[atomic abyss]

Lion and Implacable, then hold off afterwards

[violet scroll]

thanks, so i assume Lion is really that good, because i have several UR BB already

[atomic abyss]

The best

In fact

You have the bottom few UR BBs so uh

Lion would be an extremely significant upgrade

[violet scroll]

haha, i didn't realised that ^^ thanks for the tips then

[atomic abyss]

As would Bismarck 2 coming next week

[violet scroll]

nice so after Lion and implacable, i should go for bismarck 2?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[violet scroll]

thanks for the advices

[ornate gate]

Hello recently started and through some research I made this formation for my squad, I’m looking to make maybe a second squad because I don’t have ammo at the end of missions could someone help me make a boss and mob fleet?

[sweet delta]

You use this fleet to fight when out of ammo

It'll be stronger than splitting your resources between two fleets

[ornate gate]

How can I make it stronger? If I’m going for every ship I sometimes fail

[hushed sorrel]

you need to understand that nobody know what kind of ships you have and for what chapter/content. you need to deliver more informations. by the way i am not good at fleetbuilding but you will get your answers from other

[atomic abyss]

limit break your ships

[sweet delta]

limit break Black rock shooter and pennsylvania and portland and everyone actually

[vale spindle]

btw i officially moved ecgc now plz make sure all links are updated k thx

[atomic abyss]

they are

also update crossfleet if you havent

[vale spindle]

i did

idk if the site or bot caught it yet but i updated it and it should be fully updated by at maximum next al en server reset but very likely earlier than that

[ornate gate]

I don’t have enough bulins atm

[soft raft]

You can still fight at 0 ammo
you dont need a 2nd fleet until at least W9

Trying to make one before then is a bad idea since that means spreading your resources among 12 ships not 6

[ornate gate]

I see

[elfin hollow]

What does the bar indicate on the side on a CV's icon in battle?

[soft raft]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[solid kite]

hey, for account recovery who do i email? i logged in with facebook on sandy where i played and i was sent to the tutorial

[cobalt rapids]

/techsupport

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

If you experience a specific issue, such as a bug not encountered by others; an issue with your purchase, or loss of items, please contact us by sending us email at [e-mail] or alternatively using in-game system at Settings > Help > Contact Us.

Please do not DM Yostar staff or discord mods about your issues.
Please note that the answer may take a while, so we ask you to be patient.

[solid kite]

thanks

idk why its being weird like this

[cobalt rapids]

but first tap on this and check wether u just picked the wrong server instead
it should show ur account on the server if it exists and ur cmdrlvl

[last swift]

ц

what's wrong here

[cobalt rapids]

whats wrong there

[hushed sorrel]

that this landed in gameplay help?!

[last swift]

uh muh

[soft raft]

Do you have any idea how little context this gives us
Are you getting your ass kicked?
If so, where? how? What does your fleet look like?

[last swift]

Dude I accidentally wrote that letter

[soft raft]

but why did you post that image?
was that a screw-up as well?

[last swift]

bruh bruh bruh
you don't get what's the point of this screenshot?

[soft raft]

This is the gameplay help channel
if you didnt have a question, #al-general is that way

[boreal wagon]

i think if anyone had any idea what your goal with that screenshot is or even remotely understood the context they wouldnt be asking

[last swift]

Dude, don't strangle the toad

[soft raft]

[viscid swift]

Sigh

[soft raft]

I am simply trying to figure out what your purpose of posting that image was

And you're not being helpful in that regard

[forest palm]

just relay to mods if they're as disruptive as you say they are

[atomic abyss]

well, it wasnt clear that this was a "fleet sunk" screenshot

and even then, we dont know the context or even what you were going to ask

[teal ice]

chapayev good?

[atomic abyss]

good with augment

[teal ice]

uhhh still at blue and purple items

[atomic abyss]

her unique augment

[teal ice]

ahh

[last swift]

Damn, I wanted to send this screenshot to the general chat, but I got it mixed up and sent it here
and the funny thing about the screenshot is that the Duisburg sprite was chosen incorrectly

[teal ice]

cant do yet because still smol

[last swift]

do you speak russian?

[teal ice]

nope