gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

gear issue more than anything else

[atomic abyss]

yeah, idt bis2 outDPSes lion if they're geared right

is rumey using HVARs?

[topaz smelt]

it looks like its not getting 4th

[atomic abyss]

what isnt?

[topaz smelt]

most ofthe backline

[atomic abyss]

ah

[viscid swift]

Everyone in that comp is low

[topaz smelt]

prob either bad gear, low tech or dead

[atomic abyss]

prolly low tech

[topaz smelt]

wow lionbad

[atomic abyss]

i myself have only peaked at 1.38m

[onyx chasm]

I'm gonna need a stronger vanguard for my second fleet... Anyone got any ideas on who I can work on/add

[atomic abyss]

but im not getting 4 strikes off so lol

[topaz smelt]

the fights 1 shotable without oaths

[soft raft]

if you're not at W9 yet, dont bother with a 2nd fleet right now

[topaz smelt]

you just need to run like vanny

[onyx chasm]

Im way past that

[tame jungle]

where are you then

[viscid swift]

what is your first fleet then

[onyx chasm]

w11-4

what...

[lyric stump]

No lv 125 trafalga

I tried alsace its not much better

[viscid swift]

Mob: Constellation, Unicorn, Saratoga, Portland, Z23, Baltimore
Boss: Musashi, Lion, Enterprise, Fredrich Carl, Helena, San Diegi

[viscid swift]

gear and tech issue then

[onyx chasm]

I have other units hence why i showed them here

[viscid swift]

also positioning because Z52 should be main tanking

[onyx chasm]

^

[lyric stump]

Yes hvar

[topaz smelt]

tbh ive been leaning toward eld tank cuz aurora is so shit

[viscid swift]

your existing ships are fine, just gear and position them better

[atomic abyss]

better than using good ships that are underlevelled, at least

[onyx chasm]

Well tbh gear isnt too much of an issue but then again isnt having lion and musashi on boss fleet redundant?

[soft raft]

Not really
2 BB is fine if plane pressure isnt too high

[viscid swift]

tackle some harder content and you'll see

[viscid swift]

also if they're geared fine then they shouldn't be dying so

[lyric stump]

Thats all i got idk

[onyx chasm]

They aren't dying.... Never said they were. I just wanted better dps

[viscid swift]

then as I said gear them better

[lyric stump]

Y ur rumey so high dmg

[atomic abyss]

tech

[viscid swift]

because I have 2 +13 HVARs and maxed CV tech

[atomic abyss]

he has high enough reload tech for rumey to get off another airstrike

also yes 2x +13 HVAR

[little tree]

Cheeky has nearly every ship 120 so all the tech

[lyric stump]

Sooo wut i do now for 1 shot

[atomic abyss]

if you have fu shun's retrofit item, you can raise her
you can raise scylla eventually too

[lyric stump]

Helena? Over z52?

[atomic abyss]

then you risk dying lol

[viscid swift]

not even close, only 454

[atomic abyss]

trafalgar and +13 HVARs would be the biggest possible short term upgrade

[lyric stump]

True... wut can i do then 😭

[viscid swift]

Aurora is fine

[topaz smelt]

if you run helena you can just tank eld and kill in 3

[atomic abyss]

dont 1 shot?

[sweet delta]

get lucky?

[atomic abyss]

just dont 1 shot, thats all

[soft raft]

You can live just fine with 2 shot as long as you deal more than 50 bars of damage

[topaz smelt]

smh newbs gotta save every point of oil they can

[lyric stump]

Then i feel too lazy to do meta

[deft kettle]

how do you improve gear with tech? where can u get more tech points?

[viscid swift]

you don't

[atomic abyss]

gear and tech are unrelated

[lyric stump]

Btw cant even kill jintsu here

[soft raft]

you get fleet tech by obtaining and lvl 120'ing ships

[viscid swift]

you get more permanent stat bonuses by leveling ships to 120

[deft kettle]

oki

[lyric stump]

Z52 or ply if i run 3 bb

[viscid swift]

Yeah your Fritz ain't getting off 4 strikes

[onyx chasm]

What gear can i replace z23's current ones with

[atomic abyss]

i dont think changing to either will make you 1 shot

[atomic abyss]

all your gold 127s can be replaced by purple twin 120 - it's better
z23 uses the same

[viscid swift]

Rip off portland's aux gun and a Purple Roomba for her AA gun I guess

[atomic abyss]

agree with the roomba/twin 113 recommend

[topaz smelt]

You're not really in a spot to care much about AA

[viscid swift]

127 isn't better, they're roughly the same, just keep using them especially when plated have already been invested

[onyx chasm]

like this?

[atomic abyss]

that is purple twin 127

[viscid swift]

get Portland's aux gun and put it on Z23

[atomic abyss]

either gold 127 or purple 120

[lyric stump]

U right 😭 😭 😭

[onyx chasm]

So like this

[atomic abyss]

as we said, you're lacking in tech

[onyx chasm]

Ik

[atomic abyss]

just give up on 1 shotting

[onyx chasm]

I'm trying to make do with what I can.

[atomic abyss]

if youre too lazy to meta, get the 25k and stop

[atomic abyss]

wasnt talking to you

[lyric stump]

How behind am i

[onyx chasm]

My fault

[sweet delta]

12 and 25 rld and you think you can pull off 4 strikes

[atomic abyss]

you're more than halfway thru for BB at least

[lyric stump]

I aint tech heavy

[atomic abyss]

rumey with max CV rld struggles to 4 strike fully so lol

max is like, 42

[viscid swift]

this much

[lyric stump]

So good news am both half way

[atomic abyss]

as i have said many times

meta one shotting are for try hards

[lyric stump]

Trafalga my only hope ig

[viscid swift]

no she's not

[lyric stump]

😭

[viscid swift]

she'll get you about the same results as Aurora, probably a bit worse because you're lacking tech

[lyric stump]

Pain

[turbid marsh]

sadly one shotting requires tech heavy but i trust you can level those quickly

[viscid swift]

if you want that to change get grinding then and not moaning here

[atomic abyss]

the people who put in less effort like me wont 1 shot lol

[lyric stump]

Wut abt helena

Il try tmrw

[viscid swift]

you can try

[lyric stump]

If am lucky enough

[atomic abyss]

but you will need to sync with helena instead

so you may need to check your gears

[lyric stump]

My bb is pretty synced 16s

[tame jungle]

i'm just a little shy on reload to get rumey 4th strike off, any recommendations for replacements?

[atomic abyss]

rumey tho

[lyric stump]

Ima just run 3 bb

[topaz smelt]

rumey looks to be 4 strike but just slow

[lyric stump]

My cv tech too behind

[atomic abyss]

im getting rumey strike at 78.5s with 31 so

[topaz smelt]

so well within helena

[tame jungle]

i'm getting rumey in the air 💀 and that's it

[atomic abyss]

rockets dont land in time

[topaz smelt]

if youre running helena youre aiming to kill in 3

[atomic abyss]

2 diff convos

[topaz smelt]

oh

iirc you can replace rumey with vanny

[lyric stump]

Vanguard?

[topaz smelt]

ye

[atomic abyss]

yes

[lyric stump]

Woeth tryin

If 3 bb z52 or ply

[tame jungle]

als auto+radar and lion white+radar, what would you recommend for vanny aux?

[topaz smelt]

prob white radar

[deft kettle]

whats the meta boss for that yall are talking abt?

[atomic abyss]

kawakaze meta, the latest one

[topaz smelt]

idk how the timing works out with loader als

[deft kettle]

any reward?

[sweet delta]

Kawakaze meta

[atomic abyss]

the character herself

and a couple other stuff

[deft kettle]

oh darn

[topaz smelt]

free bote

[deft kettle]

how much hp would she have?

[atomic abyss]

1.6 million HP at tier 15

[viscid swift]

something like that

[tame jungle]

for me alsace is ahead of lion by 0,34

[topaz smelt]

how is it without loader

[atomic abyss]

i just use this

[topaz smelt]

also liongun on als?

[tame jungle]

nearly a second behind 💀

[viscid swift]

nope, 3 Mk7s

without loader Alsace doesn't get to her 5th salvo at all

[deft kettle]

yep i aint doin that, my unicorn can mostly do 10k-20k dmg ;^;

too early game for that

[atomic abyss]

have you even reached opsi

[deft kettle]

whats that?

[atomic abyss]

operation siren

[deft kettle]

2 ranks away from it

[atomic abyss]

you cant do meta showdowns without doing operation siren

[deft kettle]

just about to reach rank 59, i can only farm exp on 7-4 unless there is a better method for exp

[topaz smelt]

you 1 fleet push to w9

[deft kettle]

still gotta unlock it

[topaz smelt]

do war archives - divergent chessboard

[deft kettle]

aighty

[tame jungle]

hmm i kinda got cucked by operation rainbow rng this time i think but vanny might be the way, guess i'll have to try again tomorrow

thanks for the help

[sweet delta]

How much rld tech for fritz unoathed is needed?

[atomic abyss]

with 31

[gilded shale]

Any tips for DR/PR ship farming?

[atomic abyss]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[sweet delta]

I know 37 hits some rockets but idk if it hits all rockets

[atomic abyss]

12-1/4 with 3 of the relevant faction(s) vanguard OR main fleet depending on requirement

[deft kettle]

i have a question that i wanna know even though it isnt related to gameplay, is lion the only UR with a cutscene when you build her?

[sweet delta]

no

[atomic abyss]

a lot of gacha URs have that (not all)

[soft raft]

who's tankier, Z52, Ply, or Eldridge?
Cuz Ply keeps dying as main tank in KawaM

[topaz smelt]

z52 should last a bit longer but weaker buff

[ionic aurora]

Im really struggling on current meta boss, can anyone recommend a team? Preferably bb because my cv-s are lacking im sure

[sweet delta]

you can put eld traf z52/ply

[atomic abyss]

lion als bis 2
eld retro traf z52

[deft kettle]

question, what makes shinano strong? the only thing ive seen when fighting her in exercises were those blue numerous projectiles lunging towards my ships

[ionic aurora]

Bbs i have thx, i skipped a year so i dont have z52 or eldridge retro mat:(

[tame jungle]

shinano is not strong in pvp so probably a bad impression

[atomic abyss]

good buffs, good dmg
meme in pvp tho, as with all carriers

[soft raft]

those butterflies are weak af lmaooooooo

[deft kettle]

ah alr

[deft kettle]

in pvp or in general?

[soft raft]

in general
including PvP

[deft kettle]

darn

[soft raft]

they literally hit like wet noodles

[deft kettle]

lol, they barely affected my ships

[tame jungle]

she does good damage and enables your other IJN carriers to do even more damage

[deft kettle]

what buffs does she give?

ahhh alr

[tame jungle]

what she does is in the skills

[deft kettle]

WUT DO I GET

[sweet delta]

firecrest is the most expensive useful one (best bang for your box) but needs to be crafted into Wyvern with 9 UR plans
ju87d is usable earlier

the AA gun is even more expensive and is used for crafting UR AA but not worth so early

[cobalt gate]

feels like ju87, wait what isfirecrest for

[little tree]

Wyvern

[tame jungle]

check suchi's messages right above yours

[soft raft]

crafting into wyvern

[cobalt gate]

oh right

[deft kettle]

lemme check wyvern on wiki

[cobalt gate]

i doubt players have prints to craft ur gear so early

[atomic abyss]

wyvern is best campaign TB basically

[deft kettle]

yep, i dont think ill have an ur wyvern till i have 10 ur ships

[cobalt gate]

i kinda roll with ju87 since bb in chap 15 so hard to kill if not target torpedo

[hollow sail]

you can easily get a wyvern by your second month of playing the game if you have opsi diligence

[deft kettle]

ill be able to unlock opsi by tmr prob

when i get retro unicorn

[cobalt gate]

so what is the best gear to make aurora bulky? she can even die when she is in the middle while tank still alive for kawa meta

[atomic abyss]

rudder + gold HP aux

not sure if albion report works better

[sweet delta]

dodging is good

[worldly pewter]

ren is back

[turbid marsh]

stack that pearl on your tank XD

[sweet delta]

what should be the firing order and positioning for non-oath?

[cobalt gate]

i put pearl on tank, tank didn't die lol, although event with pearl aurora dies like in 3 sec

[wheat ore]

are blue ships worth leveling up to 70 and mlb to get the stats?

[atomic abyss]

some are worth levelling to 120 for the 120 stat bonus

[cobalt gate]

yeah so albion or i use golden burn, is there an ehp calulation for those?

[atomic abyss]

a lot of the best fleet tech IS from blue ships

[wheat ore]

is there a way i can find out which ones are worth leveling?

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[wheat ore]

is there a priority filter on the website, cuz i can't find it

also does it save? or you can't make an account?

[ionic aurora]

You can go to fleet tech and check the units you own

[atomic abyss]

you need to actually choose which tech you want to begin with lol

it saves to your browser

[cobalt rapids]

the site isnt a guide its a tool to help you track it
it saves in ur cache so if u change device or clear ur cache you lose ur stuff

[wheat ore]

oh i meant like the website doesn't let you make an account to save your data right?

[atomic abyss]

no

the game already does that

[cobalt rapids]

you can export import at any time

[wheat ore]

ah okay rip

[atomic abyss]

the guide is

[wheat ore]

oh

[wheat ore]

what tech is recommended to start with?

[atomic abyss]

CV and BB rld are highest priority for backliners, then CV and BB hit, then FP and Avi

[wheat ore]

oh okay ty :)

[atomic abyss]

for frontliners
cb/ca eva

beyond that it depends

[deft kettle]

im in debt with aux

[viscid swift]

how do I put this bluntly

[sweet delta]

u should put it softly

[deft kettle]

im expecting offensive words rn ;v;

[ionic aurora]

New players are great

[sweet delta]

We don't do that here

If you want offensive words, there are other Azur lane discords

[deft kettle]

mb

[ionic aurora]

I mean, best time he started

[viscid swift]

These are among the best main guns and torps for scylla

[topaz smelt]

just read this
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/fleetsandgear/goldgear

[viscid swift]

which you should almost certainly have

[sweet delta]

You should at least take all toolkits and evasion from the main fleet and give them to the vanguard

[ionic aurora]

He got lion and bisko2 rerun next week

[deft kettle]

👍🏻

idk if i have that weird main gun cannon for scylla lemme check

[ionic aurora]

We also got 2 new players, they are slowly developing. I just returned a few weeks ago after a year break

Most of new gachas are garbo anyway

[tame jungle]

ok

[viscid swift]

not sure why we needed to know that but okay

[ionic aurora]

You guys did not change

[sweet delta]

the rules did not change either

[ionic aurora]

So question for kawakaze meta alternative vanguard, here is what i have available pls help then

Main would be bisko2 alsace and lion as someone recommended

[viscid swift]

pray Laffey 2 lives long enough for you to reliably 2 cycle, that's pretty much it, you havw no hoep of one shotting without the likes of Eldridge retro or Napoli

[ionic aurora]

Ok thx. Yeah my vanguard dies

[turbid marsh]

laffey2 helena plymouth. idk why i typed neptune, its not even in the pic

wtf i meant plymouth

[deft kettle]

im concerned about the fluffy paradise

[tame jungle]

about the what

[ionic aurora]

Im generally happy to take 60% meta boss hp but this time its harder

[deft kettle]

nice name on the step on me

[viscid swift]

well yeah beacuse Kawakaze wipes your vanguard

[deft kettle]

you have great and generous nicknames for your waifus :3

[ionic aurora]

Do we know if she gonna be good for pvp or pve? Or too early to tell?

[atomic abyss]

We would appreciate if you used words that actually followed the server rules

Thanks

[viscid swift]

certainly not PvP, PvE she's above average but nothing particularly remarkable

[ionic aurora]

Ok thx

[hollow gust]

does jinstuu meta fight have damage reduction early on?

[cobalt rapids]

she takes more dmg as the battle goes on

[hollow gust]

makes sense, matches my runs

[hollow gust]

Warspite unironically pretty fucking strong; won't be surprised she beats Ulrich and FdG in single target especially in light

[cobalt rapids]

against non destroyers?

[gilded shale]

Is there a list of gears I can scrap?

[cobalt rapids]

/equip should have one idk if its updated

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564
🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen
🔹 Augment modules guide

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[worldly pewter]

can u replace warspite with both uvh and fdg ?

[turbid marsh]

2X dps eh

[sweet delta]

Is that HMS Eldridge faction fleet?

[hollow gust]

Ulrich pos

[worldly pewter]

120k diff

[hollow gust]

Ulrich prob got unlucky but yeah , peice of shit

[cobalt rapids]

wow warspite aug is rly op

[hollow gust]

i need to work on my BB guns

[cobalt rapids]

i should craft it

[hollow gust]

as suchi predicated, around NJ is fair

[topaz smelt]

that looks a bit above nj

[hollow gust]

traffy diffy

we are so fucking back boys

[cobalt rapids]

what fight is this jintsu meta?

[hollow gust]

until they forget about hms for another 3 years

im at lvl13 for kawawa lol

[cobalt rapids]

same

[swift vector]

whats the best emulator for azur lane on pc? was using bluestacks but keeps crashing now every 10min

[hollow gust]

Tf is wrong with my Ulrich

[hollow gust]

device dependent, try mumu or ldplayer

[sweet delta]

have you considered giving her AFCT and she's only getting traf eva half the time

[swift vector]

thx

[hollow gust]

could also swap to aurora

[viscid swift]

well half her salvos are going into a full eva rate kawakaze

trying using Aurora instead of Trafalgar

[hollow gust]

jinstuu

[viscid swift]

and also Z52 instead of Plymouth

[hollow gust]

also with Lion around, plymouth damage contribution will almost always exceed z52

why buff the fleet when Lion solo carry is around

[cobalt rapids]

i cannot reproduce ur 120k difference magicman

[hollow gust]

traffy favors warspite too much, swap to aurroa its a fuck ton closer

[cobalt rapids]

kear to have high uptime on eld slow

[topaz smelt]

isnt light kinda unfavorable tho for the barrages

[viscid swift]

So it's a more fair comparison of damage among other things

Also depending on how Z52's skill works you can play around and potentially get 100% uptime on it with UvH

[hollow gust]

Plymouth buff only working on Lion removes additional variables , she would be more "fair" when comparing the two ships . A lot closer though, traffy really doesn't like Ulrich

[cobalt rapids]

theres more stuff at play
jintsu moves and without kear shes also whiffing salvo due to unslowed movement
she also only gets buffed from vanny barrage only half the time

[viscid swift]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

i mean u can say warspite works better in ur comp but shes not a pos

[sinful socket]

btw, is Lion still considered top tier or did people calmed down abt it?

[atomic abyss]

if anything

[hollow gust]

she is busted as fuuuck

[atomic abyss]

she was better than our initial estimates

[sinful socket]

ok, I just oathed her so I wanted to know

do you think there's a possibility of Faction fleet being a thing (for Royal Navy at least) as of now?

[hollow gust]

faction fleet will still lose

[atomic abyss]

[sinful socket]

I'm not hoping for it, so I'm not on copium

[hollow gust]

Vanguard and Spite is never going to beat Bismarck Alsace

[sinful socket]

but a mobbing fleet made of Lion/Implacable/Unicorn for main and Trafalgar/Plymouth/... for vanguard

[hollow gust]

sounds terrible

[cobalt rapids]

u can make any mobbing fleet u like in opsi

[sinful socket]

implacable is boss yeah

[hollow gust]

well not terrible but there is no reason to run many of those ships in campiagn mob

[gaunt cedar]

im trying to get gold gear from gear shop, should i still be buying these ur gear prints? also are these tuning samples worth it?

[hollow gust]

theroetically you buy everything

[cobalt rapids]

buy everything to cycle to good things but also focus on finishing opsi story so u can get rid of the old shops

well not even finish just clear ch4

[gaunt cedar]

wait im not sure what that means, ive cleared chap 4 and just unlocked 5, what are old shops

[cobalt rapids]

this shop u have rn, if u cleared it this month u have to wait next reset for change to happen which is next month on the 1st

[gaunt cedar]

i see

[soft raft]

you currently have the "Old" shop format
after you do your first monthly reset after clearing OpSi story, it updates to the newer shop format

[sweet delta]

Kawakaze META Showdown fleets v2.0 - v2.2

Many fleets can have 90%+ win rate with high tech, max gear, and no oaths (or 99.9% win rate with oaths).
The basic template is Big Damage Main Fleet™️ + Eldridge + Debuffer + Good Ship. The Eldridge and the Good Ship's positions can be swapped, but generally it's fine to leave Eldridge as the main tank because it's not a big loss for Eldridge to sink a few seconds early.

Big Damage Main Fleet™️

• Lion for obvious reasons.
• Alsace uses autoloader to get more volleys and fully buff Lion. Flag in these examples because she's the fastest, to proc Trafalgar/Eldridge. Players with oaths and 14+ BB RLD tech may sacrifice Lion's 12th volley to remove Alsace's autoloader while swapping the guns (see Image 4).
• Fritz needs 37+ CV RLD tech if not oathed.
• Bismarck Zwei's black hole is only useful for the second salvo, so she loses value but is still very strong.
• Vanguard.
• Soyuz.
• Soyuz + Nakhimov needs max CV RLD or oathed Nakhimov for 4 strikes.
• Kear + Yorktown II needs high CV RLD or oathed Yorktown II for 4 strikes.
• worse options include Warspite, Raffaello, NJ, etc.

Eldridge

• Eldridge.
• Lol.
• No Eldridge? Try other tanks like Laffey II or Napoli, but your win rate just plummeted.

Debuffer

• Trafalgar is generally the best in this slot.
• Aurora sometimes has survival issues even with Eldridge. She has a slightly better (de)buff than Trafalgar. BBs with AFCT reach 100% hit rate, so they can bring black shell or twin 134mm.
• Chapayev because DD boss.
• Helena is inconsistent but is a necessary evil for players with less damage.

Good Ship

• Z52/Plymouth are pretty tanky and have good rDPS. Plymouth is slightly better rDPS, slightly worse survivability.
• Napoli has worse rDPS and slightly worse survivability compared to Z52 but can protect Aurora slightly better.
• Helena is inconsistent but is a necessary evil for players with less damage.
• Mogador? DDGs?

[viscid swift]

Helena is a "necessary evil" lamo

[topaz smelt]

sleeping on vanny

[forest palm]

Vanguard is in there...

[topaz smelt]

lion+vanny+fritz

[sweet delta]

if people have found success with yorkii like 90%+ without oaths or 95%+ with oaths then i would be willing to investigate further

[viscid swift]

my sucess so far has been 0%

[topaz smelt]

the core comp is lion + fritz + 1 / eld + evadebuff + 1

ive been at 100% with yorkii

[cobalt rapids]

how many samples u accept for 95% + ?

[fair lance]

Would I use Napoli if I don't have Eldridge?

[topaz smelt]

id cope with helena

napoli lives like 0% of the time

[forest palm]

mostly just cry in a corner

[fair lance]

It's what I've been doing lol

[topaz smelt]

raf prob has better success

[sweet delta]

mby 10 samples with intelligent extrapolation

[forest palm]

would JdA or YYK do anything this meta?

[topaz smelt]

dies

[forest palm]

sounds about right

[weary gust]

Rumey just uses double hvar right

[topaz smelt]

ik lusty can keep vg alive but low dmg

[cobalt rapids]

double hvar beacon for 4 rotations yes

[topaz smelt]

id prob look into chappy strats as well

[last zenith]

Ive done 95 precent

pin this. is this pinned?

[topaz smelt]

i dont get the autoloader on 52 at all

[sweet delta]

i mean doing 1600000 dmg 95% of the time, not doing 95% of 1600000

[last zenith]

I take 2 attemots to beat it

[weary gust]

Level 118 Lion w/ Alsace/Rumey and Eld/Aurora/Plym seems to be clearing right at 0s rather consistently for me.

[hybrid pelican]

So, amigos, do we get gems by clearing main stages?

[sweet delta]

there are one time missions for 3 star each campaign map

[hybrid pelican]

Including chapter 15?

[sweet delta]

of course

[hybrid pelican]

Omfg, ty sm

[hollow trout]

should I build laffey 2 or gaum? This is like what I have for opsci right now and who would I replace

[sweet delta]

build Lion?

[hollow trout]

didn't get them

[turbid marsh]

oof

[hollow trout]

idk I came back for black rock star shooter

[viscid swift]

save for Bismarck Zwei next week I guess

[turbid marsh]

OOF

[hollow trout]

we good on rolls, just not speed up or gold...

[eternal basalt]

You get 44 free tickets

[turbid marsh]

eh its okay you don't even play the game that much anyways, missing lion won't hurt. you aint aiming for one shotting hard arbitor, or meta boss anyways right?

[hollow trout]

no, I'm too lazy to gear farm that much

probably just being able to do it is enough regardless of how scuffed the clear is

[hollow trout]

Also who I would replace for zwei?

[thorn heron]

Sorry guys, can someone explain What is this z flag for

[soft raft]

It's basically exclusive to Mikasa
pratically useless otherwise

[forest palm]

an auxiliary that functions as a unique augment, that wastes space

[thorn heron]

So if i put on musashi its can be useless?

[soft raft]

dont bother at all

[forest palm]

yes, Z Flag is useless on anyone but Mikasa

[thorn heron]

Ahh okay thanks

[viscid swift]

UvH

[hollow gust]

why did you split your best BBs though

[hollow trout]

idk

what should the setup be instead

[frozen stag]

what time does the game usually refresh dailies

[soft raft]

2 AM US Central time

[hollow gust]

3AM est which is in 7 hours 35 min

<t:1749884400>

[crisp raven]

just to add to blaster and goose. you also want to close the game about 5 mins before daily reset. otherwise you risk your dailys NOT refreshing. typically you want to be offline 5 mins before or 5 mins after to avoid your comms locking up.

[topaz smelt]

If they don't refresh they're usually queued up after

[rich stump]

Does anyone know what happens when u buy a skin but u don’t have that ship

[topaz smelt]

You just can't use it until you get the ship

[rich stump]

Oh ok thx

[rich stump]

How u actually tried that before tho

[hollow gust]

people have tried it

[dreamy blade]

Not sure what you think would happen otherwise

[rich stump]

Ok thx

[dreamy blade]

who is yyk? I've been using jda bc I don't have eld

[soft raft]

Yorktown 2

[topaz smelt]

yukikaze

[viscid swift]

no, Yukikaze

[soft raft]

oh right
forgot she exists ngl

[gusty olive]

Is Plymouth better tank than Drake? (Bossing)

[soft raft]

bossing where exactly?

[dreamy blade]

What is yukikaze supposed to be for, backline doesn't take any dmg no

[topaz smelt]

[viscid swift]

live

[forest palm]

doesn't matter, Plymouth isn't gonna do much more t han Drake in terms of tanking

[topaz smelt]

if it can live, it can tank
from there you just look for damage contribution

[forest palm]

YYK is like super cope, but ya lol

[thorny field]

[soft raft]

Did you have a question or what?

[topaz smelt]

have you tried restarting?

[forest palm]

jiggling the coward could help

[thorny field]

A day

[thorny field]

Where to find awaken 125 i dont want spent cores

[viscid swift]

level 95 tactical training daily raid, event shops

[thorny field]

Me 60

[viscid swift]

though at this point in the game don't worry about 125

[thorny field]

Aight

[viscid swift]

did you just dumo all of your XP packs into 120ing Lion

[thorny field]

No?

Doing kinda lots campain and quests

[dreamy blade]

you should be spending core data on cog chips/arrays btw

[viscid swift]

ok so you didn't use them all but you did book her to 120

[thorny field]

No?

[viscid swift]

yeah don't don't do this in future

[thorny field]

Aight

[topaz smelt]

tbh its not a terrible idea if it carries you thru the campaign

[dreamy blade]

pretty sure a lv100 lion would do that tho

[viscid swift]

ehh sure but I'd rather not use XP packs on ships that don't need it and save them for ships that do

that Lion isn't even max limit break

[thorny field]

Lion and trafa can solo

[soft raft]

that's only working for you right now because that's Pre-W12

[thorny field]

After like 3,4 days i can make her tier 3 so kinda want to max her out

[viscid swift]

so? can't exactly keep that up forever

[topaz smelt]

when does the frontloaded cogs kick in?

[viscid swift]

and as the old saying goes, your team is only as good as its weakest link

[topaz smelt]

~~ 1-1 lion traf~~

[viscid swift]

does it ever?

[dreamy blade]

for chips yes not arrays

[topaz smelt]

i rmbr there was a pretty frontloaded source of cogs

[thorny field]

If i play soon like 5-7 days event rose i could tier 3 lion and trafa tier 2 😭

[viscid swift]

they're called limit breaks by the way

[tame linden]

Hii how do I find the best gear for each ship?

[dreamy blade]

ectl has cookier cutter picture guides, ecgc has a more indepth guide for gearing ships by hulltype

[thorny field]

% SR gear open ?

[soft raft]

there's this for campaign up to at most W14
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/equipment/ for more details on what's considered good

[tame linden]

Tysm

[tame linden]

Tysm

[eternal moth]

Once PR8 is released, do you guys recommend prioritizing gear research over ships?

[topaz smelt]

its always been gear > ships

[dreamy blade]

even when pr6 released?

[topaz smelt]

we talking about research selection or for newbs?

[eternal moth]

Research selection. I may try that this time instead of rushing ship research. What's your priority, Q > Face?

[topaz smelt]

gonna depend on gear vs ships

[eternal moth]

True

[eternal moth]

Cube research is good for gear BP as well, right?

[topaz smelt]

i just click longest of either now

it just gets you ahead so you have more time to Q

[hollow gust]

ewww, i wanna use my ships first

[dreamy blade]

what will be the play for new players that havent finished pr7 yet (ie me), im currently at 41 la9 prints and dev25 nahkimov

[viscid swift]

no clue

[topaz smelt]

Finish it? There's still a lot of time

[viscid swift]

well, about a month

[dreamy blade]

isnt pr8 next month?

[topaz smelt]

Shouldnt take a month to finish that

[dreamy blade]

[topaz smelt]

You finish the entire season in like 4 months

[dreamy blade]

i've been on pr7 focus for a bit under 2 months now, dont think i'll be done with anything by the time pr8 releases except for 1 la9

[topaz smelt]

Welcome to the catchup game

No advice will help until it releases

[glossy granite]

I havent finished shit as i only returned to the game 7 months ago and i found out in april that you can queue research projects 💀

Im so cooked chat

[eager marsh]

Is there alternative to eldridge for kawa meta?

[fiery finch]

How to get point

[hollow gust]

https://youtu.be/1QFL3jXxYOA?si=m1p3-2OpUXqxQPr4

[fiery finch]

Oh Ty

[sweet delta]

No

[eager marsh]

my hiatus fucked me all over

[frozen stag]

whats like the best things to buy in core mo. i have like 2135 core data and i have to buy smth for the handbook missions

[hollow gust]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://www.azurlaneecgc.com/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[stark quiver]

Sortie normally, if you do enough it shouldn’t be hard to get it

[fiery finch]

I got it

[ornate narwhal]

How good is this

[rapid grail]

is the advice here just to use Trafalgar instead of one of them

[south sequoia]

nah its to use aurora

[lyric stump]

Meh

[rapid grail]

+5 hit/acc (same thing) stat is nice for BBs, CV/Ls and torpers. Doesn't have much AA tho so make sure your other ships have at least one quad Bofors or better.

It's okay, relatively speaking. There's one other AA gun that gives +5 hit/acc more than that

[topaz smelt]

trafs runs better in bbs

[south sequoia]

then z52 would be booted?

[topaz smelt]

eithers fine

[hollow gust]

plymmy is love, plymmy is life

[hollow gust]

also flag your lion

that wouldve been a oneshot if you did

[wary skiff]

wyvern or sky pirate for independence?

[topaz smelt]

wyv

[hollow gust]

wyvern is better, although you should run it for your other ships if you are low on them

[wary skiff]

ya ill just run wyvern on someone else so she gets her efficiency

[flint sonnet]

In opsi is it worth doing any of the corrosion 3 and lower purple map coordinate items? Or should I just spend my ap rerunning any corrosion 5+ maps?

[weary gust]

Just do all hidden maps and abyssal zone loggers you get

[rapid grail]

lion salvo does 1.6mil damage if i slot her on mid?

[hollow gust]

what??

[warped acorn]

🤯

[rapid grail]

i always find the term "oneshot" when referring to boss fights as something pretty silly. Not a single ship can do that ingame

Anyways, thanks for advice

[topaz smelt]

just use ranger

[soft raft]

2nd/3rd best AA gun for backliners

[sweet delta]

3-4th

[weary gust]

No one said it being a single ship doing it ... oneshot reffers to one attack attempt.

[slender linden]

help who do I get next

[sharp socket]

just adopt the term wanpan

[deft kettle]

yall who would be more worth it to lb, bismarck zwei or lion?

[rapid grail]

lion, can make do with slowerd in the meantime while u wait for biszwei mlb

[deft kettle]

👍🏻

ill feel bad for bismarck zwei that will remain 3 star for awhile once i get her.

[fluid brook]

If possible build FdG from PR2

[hushed dawn]

Uh how do I calculate the timings here?

[low juniper]

How many blue exp packs would it take, hypothetically, to get a UR ship from lvl 1 to 125

[thorny field]

Just dont to 125 🔥

[stark quiver]

Copy the gear and have 14+ bb rld and 41-2 cv rld

[warped acorn]

unicorn or kazan if the other 2 are bbs (1 fleet only)

[soft raft]

Is this for mobbing or bossing?
And what world are you on?

[warped acorn]

12, well as i said 1 fleet

[soft raft]

why not a 2nd fleet? you should've started working on one at like W9

[warped acorn]

no issues till now

[soft raft]

you'll start running into issues trying to single fleet in W13 and you'll regret it

I did the same thing as you did and it was annoying having to go back to level up the ships needed for my 2nd fleet

[warped acorn]

damn

[soft raft]

either way, to answer your question, Unicorn
she's basically a perament fixture in the mobbing fleet

[warped acorn]

alr then

[paper walrus]

Isnt the zwei rerun early

I think you guys were talking about august

[soft raft]

It's been officially announced for next week
And last week it was mentioned in the JP patch notes

It isnt early either, perfectly on schedule (Save for the occasional swapping)

[calm notch]

how do we go about unlocking the new cafe area in the private quarters?

[jaunty tartan]

Is Memphis meta good?

[soft raft]

Tech fodder

All Elite METAs are realistically tech/collection fodder

At the very least they no longer take up dock space

[jaunty tartan]

Oh

[paper walrus]

Interesting

[opaque karma]

how good is the black rock shooter ships

[elfin hollow]

i already spent key to unlock this stage why is this still requiring me to do sortie

[sweet delta]

black rock shooter is a high gold BB/BC, dead master is an average gold CV. See /tierlist in #bot-spam for slightly more details

[soft raft]

???
1 Key = 1 run

So every run you want to do, you need to use a key

[elfin hollow]

i know but i thought it was fully unlocked at first 😭

[fierce lantern]

Can you skip bismark

[stark quiver]

Yes
But you shouldnt

[sweet delta]

You can skip Bismarck zwei but why would you

[fierce lantern]

alr so shes like a must have?

[stark quiver]

No, but she’s top tier good

[sweet delta]

She's a top 3 bossing BB still two years after her release

[soft raft]

Gahca UR always worth going for
BisZwei is still a very good ship

[fierce lantern]

Okay

[sweet delta]

Maybe I should downgrade Bisz or upgrade Lion in some content to distinguish them because the devs seem to be putting a lot of stationary bosses lately

[young terrace]

you guys found the last collection for new jersey's private quarters? i'm still trying to find it

it's at bedroom

[soft raft]

have you already tried changing it to a different time of day?

some items are night only and vice versa

[young terrace]

i have. found the ac at night

[lime raptor]

Oh time of day changes things you can find???

Time to find those Anchorage items I was missing

[sweet delta]

you didn't know that for Sirius and noshiro?

[lime raptor]

I forgor 💀

[fallow sedge]

Who could be the next Ur rerun after bisZ

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[gusty olive]

Harbiters and maybe META fights

[soft raft]

Ply would have better utility with her debuff
Drake is just damage

[sweet delta]

plymouth is better period. If youre using them both together, then drake should tank because ply is more important to keep alive

[elfin hollow]

can i research 2 ships at the same time or would the first one be ruined

[wind hazel]

can only do 1 at a time

unless you mean research academy?

[soft raft]

whatever progress you make is saved so you can go back to it anytime and not have to restart

[elfin hollow]

ahhh ok

[coral oyster]

Anybody know how I can play the private quarters on mobile without it crashing? It says I need to lower my specs

[young terrace]

found the last collection item for the private quarters of new jersey. it was the dumbbells. i've miss passed it like more than once

[soft raft]

Simply put, get a better phone
There's really no other way around that

3D Dorm is quite graphics heavy compared to basically the rest of this game

[coral oyster]

True true, definitely due for one. Only asking cuz I was temporarily using my iPad to play on the quarters and it kept crashing. Thank you though!

[elfin hollow]

i have two more questions i want to do her after st louis . and i remember medal shop sells selector which one am i supposed to choose to make this available

[wind hazel]

you dont use those on PR1

[elfin hollow]

then how am i going to get one more iron blood

[soft raft]

He means the ships needed to unlock

in which case, Eugen if you havent already got her yet

[wind hazel]

oh lol, you mean the hull medal

[topaz smelt]

newbs get eugen for free

[soft raft]

if your shop has DD, Z46 as well

[wind hazel]

nah dont pick z46

[topaz smelt]

did they remove the 1 week thing for eugen?

[elfin hollow]

ah

[topaz smelt]

and guild shop should have a couple

[elfin hollow]

guild shop has IB?

[topaz smelt]

a few

spee, hipper, idr the rest

[calm notch]

Going to ask again, does anybody know how to unlock the new cafe area in PQ

[topaz smelt]

click it in the events

then unlock it on the dorm map

[calm notch]

I see I dont know how I missed that, thanks

[soft raft]

Hipper Muse as well ig but Muse ships dont give tech points

[elfin hollow]

hipper worked thanks

[stark quiver]

[elfin hollow]

also since bp boost im closer to making her so i choosed her here. should i focus another ship or can she work good?

[ornate narwhal]

So I completed Plymouth’s catchup, who should I do next?

[soft raft]

continue doing researches

[stark quiver]

Shimanto

[soft raft]

Shimanto would be a better choice

[ornate narwhal]

Yea I mean which catchup should I do?

[soft raft]

if you have a ship that's D30, do theirs then convert the catchup into protocore

otherwise you can split the 300 for the PRs however you need

[stark quiver]

They don’t

[soft raft]

or you can do another DR catchup

[stark quiver]

Just do hakuryuu or something

[wanton spindle]

what's the comp for kawakaze meta?

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[elfin hollow]

alright i just switched to her and left some research thanks for all the help guys

[agile furnace]

Kinda unrelated but what are these and how do I finish them? Been stuck at this amount for eternity.

[weary gust]

#gameplay-help message

[verbal thistle]

Between Lion and Traf, who's the better option to MLB, Lion?

[deft kettle]

yep

[verbal thistle]

Appreciate it.

[deft kettle]

lion 100%

[wary skiff]

is independence buffed air strike from running a cleveland class in the fleet worth it?

[wind hazel]

no, just run good ships

[sinful escarp]

for kawaM fleet with: Lion, alsace, rummey/ eld,ply. who is a good vanguard ship asides from aurora? i dont have aurora leveled

[wind hazel]

trafalgar

[wind oxide]

Any guide on how BB's barrages work?

[sweet delta]

they're just extra attacks

[wind oxide]

I mean like how the timing works

[cobalt gate]

is there an e hp calculator? want to test if albion or goldenburn/toobox is better for aurora

[wind hazel]

ping mebot 🤖

[soft raft]

• The Main gun is the primary factor in their reload time. Triple barrel ones usually are ~20s while twin barrel ones are ~16s tho a few outliers exist for the former like the Triple 460
• BB timing is mainly to sync with Helena's Radar Scan, which is every 20s
• If Helena is using SG Radar, The BBs equip a HSFCR to maintain sync
• RLD Tech also plays a part

[cobalt gate]

@slow fox

[sweet delta]

using a calculator to test

[stark quiver]

Goldburn on aurora for what bruh

[topaz smelt]

wasnt mebot asking for that answer the other day?

[tribal tulip]

I don't understand it. What Do I do?

[topaz smelt]

dorm your ships, touch grass
swap them out

[tribal tulip]

Is that why we get so many ships??

[topaz smelt]

no its just another mechanic to annoy ppl to send gems

[tribal tulip]

oh god

[forest palm]

don't think money'll fix the moral issue...

[tribal tulip]

I'm confuse how it work still

[forest palm]

even if you buy more dorm space you still have to wait about 3 hours or more

[tribal tulip]

I might have to look up a guide or something for it

[worldly pewter]

u don't care about the 20% more exp of 120+ moral ?

[topaz smelt]

well more of indirectly, but easiest solution is swap the ships out

and oaths are also a thing that affects it

[tribal tulip]

so basically I need a party of two ships group to main??

[forest palm]

even then swapping the fleet out isn't exactly advisable

[topaz smelt]

if you intend on grinding for long periods

either take a break or do opsi

[forest palm]

you start spending more resources than you can keep up, and you're using half assed ships with poor gear, and so on

[sharp socket]

if you want to farm alot then maximum number of fleets is 4 for nonstop farming

[forest palm]

only if you're in a position to do so

[worldly pewter]

do u mean low costing ?

[topaz smelt]

i typically just swap my mob and boss fleets

[tribal tulip]

I just wanna farm quick

[sharp socket]

yeah only do that if you have like 100k oil and some crazy event to farm

[sharp socket]

full fleeting for oilcap

[tribal tulip]

I'm at level 25 right now

[sharp socket]

then unfortunately you just touch grass or your shipgirls

[worldly pewter]

are ur ships sinking ?

[tribal tulip]

No

[forest palm]

ya you're at a point where you can't afford to make more than 1 fleet

[topaz smelt]

work on unlocking dorm slots, kinda doubt youll have the coin for that

[tribal tulip]

I don't have the coin for it sadly

[worldly pewter]

the dorm is a meme before the second floor

i mean moral wise

[topaz smelt]

its still a significant increase than not being in dorm

[worldly pewter]

it will be a massive hassle to keep switching the ships to min max moral gain

[topaz smelt]

thinking about it, its prob a cn thing to stop ppl from playing too long

[worldly pewter]

in 3 or 4 slots

[forest palm]

still funny when people ask how they turn off the low moral notif

[tribal tulip]

Ya I'm kinda turn off by it

[worldly pewter]

[forest palm]

the only notif I genuinely wouldn't mind turning off is "max coin"

[topaz smelt]

i rarely get there

[tribal tulip]

Wait can I not change my team party during battle?

[topaz smelt]

nope

[worldly pewter]

i think u will only find it annoying at the start of the game

[topaz smelt]

if you want to finish the map you can check back every 5mins

[tribal tulip]

I really wanna get into this game for a really long time ever since the game was released

[worldly pewter]

also that 4 january message was 3 weeks after i started playing

[topaz smelt]

kinda like 6 years late

[tribal tulip]

Well I hope I'm not missing out much

FOR FUCKING SIX YEARS

[topaz smelt]

surprisingly not really

[worldly pewter]

i think u only miss some aux that is it

[topaz smelt]

its a gacha so aside from the catchup game not really

just collabs ig

[worldly pewter]

yeah collab gear

[forest palm]

collabs are the only thing really, but they don't count for Collection %, so

[topaz smelt]

youll live without them

[worldly pewter]

[tribal tulip]

so Do I have to let my party ship rest then for them to be happy? Like being offline or afk??

[wind hazel]

goldburn diff

[topaz smelt]

tbh ive barely used them, only if i care about minmaxing shit

[wind hazel]

just afk will do, it's based on time

[tribal tulip]

Oh really? How long tho?

[worldly pewter]

while they are recovering come here to learn stuff

[wind hazel]

scroll back up and look at taz's picture

[tribal tulip]

Also How do I get those Dorm coins?

[wind hazel]

do commissions

[worldly pewter]

i think the most part is from commissions
then when u occasionally visit the dorm u might find some too

[tribal tulip]

I wish there a way you can be able to view the ships even tho they're lock.
Like you can't click on it and view the whole thing

[worldly pewter]

while u are new the f2p gems are going to the second floor and dock space

[tribal tulip]

What commission?

[worldly pewter]

commissions are smol quests where u can allocate some ships for various stuff

the english translation should be dispatch from jp

[wind hazel]

click on commissions

[sweet delta]

The English is Commission

[wind hazel]

and do them

[sweet delta]

What secretary are you hiding?

[tribal tulip]

Hmmmm

I guess I'm done playing for tonight.

[stark quiver]

His secretary is named breast, id hide it too if I were him

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/693064329771089960.webp?size=56

[forest palm]

[silver lintel]

Finally zwei rerun

[slow fox]

Goldburn better

[serene moth]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-brando-dio-jojo-confused-math-gif-24441915

[cobalt gate]

thanks i have +13 so even better i guess, although not sure how it would be against a +10 toolbox or the flower thing

[sweet delta]

Now calculate it assuming the enemy kawakaze meta does maxhp damage

[hollow gust]

Also I'm 80% sure your calcs where Albion < toolbox is off.

[slow fox]

Mayhappers. I'm doin the math consisting of the evarate and the stats buffs.

[wet badge]

Do i need sov soyuz for nyakh

[frozen stag]

is zwei rerun like this week or the week after it

[wet badge]

This week o think

[crisp raven]

#game-news message

[wind hazel]

they are best paired together most of the time

[frozen stag]

ah ok, also just spent all my overcapped oil so back at 9k now i just unlocked 13 but ion think i can finish it with my current stuff do i just stay at 12-4 and spend all my oil on it for exp and gold

[eternal moth]

Alright, so this works pretty well for Kawa Meta. 2/3 kills

[covert phoenix]

I'm assuming having Trafalgar at level 114 is a major disadvantage?

Been coming close even with a lack of cat AA guns but so far no one-shots

[eternal moth]

She's gonna take a lot more damage. Vanguard pressure is already pretty high, although if you have Eld you might be ok

[wind hazel]

most for her survivability but if she isn't dying, then she has done her job

[sweet delta]

-30k dmg

[covert phoenix]

Yeah I have Eldridge

No she isn't dying so apart from a lack of oaths or maybe cat AA guns Idk what else I could be doing wrong

Maybe I should switch to Helena?

[thorny field]

Will there be event farm like rose or just zwei return banner

[sweet delta]

Event maps

[eternal moth]

Are all of your main fleet ships using +13 gear for at least their main guns and planes?

[thorny field]

W should save oils too?

[eternal moth]

It's a full rerun, so you'll have an event as well

[thorny field]

Should save oils ?

[covert phoenix]

Yes, for main guns and planes

[wind hazel]

i dont remember her event

[eternal moth]

It only lasts one week, though, and you'll get tickets for free pulls

[thorny field]

Oh

[stark quiver]

I can’t wait for bz event ex stage

[thorny field]

I refer good weapon than

[wind hazel]

wow shit shop

[sweet delta]

I don't remember her ex stage

[stark quiver]

Geryon does cuck work

[wind hazel]

boring ass event, just do minimal grind

[thorny field]

Should i get new J for team lion , new j , zwei or just let new J for tier 3 lion

[sweet delta]

Like 94% of major events

[wind hazel]

94%

[stark quiver]

The cogs are pretty comp tho

[wind hazel]

idk what that means but shinano is the better pick here

[thorny field]

Ok

[covert phoenix]

This is what I currently have (am experiencing a bit of a coin shortage currently )

[hollow gust]

Use Plymouth

[eternal moth]

Looks good. Only thing I can think of is fleet tech, and yeah, drop Z52 and use Plymouth instead. What's your current damage?

[covert phoenix]

Lowest was ~1480000 or so; highest was ~1580000 or so

[hollow gust]

And you can use the FP gun on BBs

[covert phoenix]

Better than the STAAGs?

[eternal moth]

Using Ply instead would have easily given you the missing damage on the 1580000 attempt

[sweet delta]

How's your tech, screenshot the BB and CV section

[eternal moth]

What do you mean no Sushi? I'm using 134s

[sweet delta]

That's not an Aurora fleet

[eternal moth]

Traf and Aurora fill the same role, don't they?

[wind hazel]

different eva debuff %

[sweet delta]

76 is certainly better than 134, and staag is probably better than 134

[hollow gust]

The 134 should still be better then stash even if it's traffy. If I'm wrong then

[stark quiver]

wtf high tech gamer

[wind hazel]

higher than alpha, already stronger

[hollow gust]

More like you should get your tech up

[stark quiver]

I am new
Ong

[sweet delta]

With such high tech idk what's going wrong besides Trafalgar doing 30k less damage

[stark quiver]

I consistently one shot so I sleep

[wind hazel]

p2w

[covert phoenix]

I suppose I can try getting Trafalgar up to 125 and and see what happens

Worst case scenario I swap in Plymouth or even Helena

[sweet delta]

That would be winning 90% of the time with the UR AA and more ply gun. Give fritz a staag too btw

[eternal moth]

I'd swap Z52 for Ply. That's going to give you an instant damage increase

[covert phoenix]

I only have the one UR cat AA gun

But I'll give Fritz a STAAG

[sweet delta]

Is Eldridge main tanking?

[covert phoenix]

No, side tank

Z-52's the primary tank

[sweet delta]

Well that's very wrong

Z52 needs double HP aux to be used like that. Just put Eldridge tank, that's why she has manjuu

[covert phoenix]

Huh, noted

But they are still surviving so clearly survivability isn't the problem

[sweet delta]

Z52 shouldn't be surviving consistently as the main tank with an autoloader

But if you say survival is not an issue, then use ply

[covert phoenix]

Maybe Eldridge has been getting lucky

But sure, I'll try tomorrow swapping Z-52 with Plymouth and see what can be done

Either that or I get Trafalgar to level 125 and tweak the augments a bit and see if that makes a difference

[shell citrus]

Is it better to max lb shishnao for a shish haku implacable fleet or max lb lion

[turbid dawn]

Is this the perfect CV cat? And is it worth still rolling for more CV cats?

[stark quiver]

No
If u wanna roll for ace you can

[turbid dawn]

So close then? I’ll keep trying with the other one I have an keep this one as it is then

[topaz smelt]

you prob also want a purple cv cat to pair

[hollow gust]

I gave up on cats

[topaz smelt]

i have my sets

[hollow gust]

I'm just hope holloween pirate girls event gives a CV cat

[topaz smelt]

find me a cv pirate

[tame jungle]

yarr

[hollow gust]

The Flying Dutchman yarrrrrr

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I’m trying with this one, always get close with it but never get exactly what’s needed

[elfin hollow]

How good is St louis for w14?

[stark quiver]

I got my 40 rld purps and dipped
Take this and make an identical one on eagle , both started with mech and officer

[topaz smelt]

tbh id rather just take a flame + filler

theres like nowhere you want that much rld

[hollow gust]

I need better guns , this is depressing

[stark quiver]

I do agree, all my boxes have been shit so

[topaz smelt]

im sad, i finally have to craft my 3rd hvar

[stark quiver]

Huh, you’ve been going all this time without?

[topaz smelt]

was never needed

[stark quiver]

how much does the alt have

[topaz smelt]

alt? this is my main

i have 5

[stark quiver]

[topaz smelt]

i might have a new strat

let me +13 this hvar and rerun

[teal ice]

how to obtain a lot of gold when your storage mail gold is empty

[worldly pewter]

spam 12-4

[teal ice]

still 8-2

[strange path]

Which pr dr to work towards after fdg and anchorage? (Not enough ijn texh points for Haku)

[plain saffron]

Push to 12-4 then

[teal ice]

aight ill try

[surreal belfry]

Do Plymouth

[topaz smelt]

avp, agir

[worldly pewter]

if u are commander level gated and can't advance to the next chapter u want to farm its 4th stage

[stark quiver]

That doesn’t require 2 ad1?

[topaz smelt]

nope

[stark quiver]

[topaz smelt]

it kills tho

[gloomy prairie]

are airstrikes affected by enemy EVA?

[topaz smelt]

and vg cant die

but ye needs 2 skyraiders

[stark quiver]

[topaz smelt]

gearing should be pretty obvious aside from loader on kear

[stark quiver]

Me quitting al after not rolling yk2 during og run

[topaz smelt]

id suggest trying chappy + traf with the bb comps
might be more consistent

[teal ice]

gated means?

[worldly pewter]

closed doors

[teal ice]

ahh

[hollow gust]

I cooked even harder

[worldly pewter]

u can't advance because u don't meet the level requirement

[topaz smelt]

ew lion

[stark quiver]

Large ahh image

Lemme try my original comp

I need to grab my fulmar first

[wind oxide]

Mayne where do u farm that high eff logistics plan

[topaz smelt]

opsi, monthly

[hollow gust]

Why are all these so big

[topaz smelt]

seems to be 100% after a slight rld tech tuning

[ocean trout]

i dont wanna do 4 attacks, what armor type is she and do use bb or cv?

[wind oxide]

Ask your friends for help

[atomic abyss]

Light
Use 3 BBs

Eld retro strongly recommended

[paper walrus]

in the end how is the warkai aug

[topaz smelt]

expensive

[atomic abyss]

She's finally worthy of the UR title

[paper walrus]

im already using her might as well buy it

[atomic abyss]

UR of like 3-4 years ago

[paper walrus]

people were saying that it gets her to around nj level is this true

[topaz smelt]

i think she might be a little better than that

[wind oxide]

Damage wise ig

[atomic abyss]

If her barrage hits

[hollow gust]

NJ isn't a high bar for UR BB these days ; her hitting full combo to around Nj isn't super surprising

[ocean trout]

these 3 ok, which bb gun for light?

[topaz smelt]

spites issue is she doesnt sync to helena well due to off timing barrages

nor most buffs actually

[topaz smelt]

so nj might still be better in most cases

[hollow gust]

PvP fleet

[stark quiver]

Mussshi is not good
What’s that vanguard supposed to do

Not even a good pvp fleet

[hollow gust]

Unironically that's the pre Alsace meta comp for PvP

[wind oxide]

Why's he using a pvp fleet in a meta fight?

[stark quiver]

Ask serenity

[worldly pewter]

he most likely doesn't know how to theorycraft a fleet for a specific content that is why he is asking here

[stark quiver]

@ocean trout do you have eld retro and aurora

[topaz smelt]

idk how but this comp paces as well as my other kear+lion comp

while being perfectly stable

[worldly lion]

Returnee here. Can someone please recommend a decent team for OS?

[rapid grail]

make thread, post current opsi fleets if available

[rapid grail]

who does aurora replace here? im kinda desperate for a 1pan

[worldly pewter]

alsace uni indep anchorage z23 sandy

[wind hazel]

52

[worldly pewter]

mlb alsace

u have a dupe and a bulin there

[worldly lion]

Just noticed that lol. Thanks!

[proud turret]

Should I skip Bismarck Zwei? I don't even have 200 cubes at this moment

[wind hazel]

no

[topaz smelt]

upto you

it gives you a bunch of free pulls

[wind oxide]

you have tickets dude

[atomic abyss]

No

[atomic abyss]

The Lion event gun, and the same old purple mk6
Unless you have the gun from NJ event, then you can use it over the purple gun

Don't use Musashi and NJ
Use Lion + Alsace/Bis2

Frontline shd be Eld retro + Trafalgar/Aurora + Z52/Plymouth

[slender linden]

wait eldrige has retro?

what does it do to her?

[worldly lion]

Btw, who's uni?😰

[gusty moth]

anyone know what konigs barrage looks like?

[stark quiver]

Her skill can proc and your vanguard becomes invincible for some time

[stark quiver]

Unicorn retro

[slender linden]

im talking about the retro skill

[wind oxide]

that's literally what her retro does to her skill

[tame jungle]

this skill does what it says

it's just some added stats and can help with a bit of consistency but this one's nothing special really

[gusty moth]

just want to know if its arcing or straight bullets

[slender linden]

yea but they were talking about this one which she already has before retro

[tame jungle]

the one she has before retro gets upgraded

[rapid grail]

was snooping around earlier, got the run I was looking for

[worldly pewter]

instead of posting the whole skill pic u can say
the blue skill the red skill

[worldly pewter]

beth's alsace on cracks

[rapid grail]

pvp gaming paying off for pve

[atomic abyss]

When retrofitted
She loses the start on battle cool down

So she can proc it immediately

[slender linden]

got it

[atomic abyss]

Konigsberg?
Straight
Only CBs and BB/Cs have arcing barrages iirc

[ocean trout]

i own nearly every unit but eldrige is not built . she is still in development.

[topaz smelt]

heres an interesting comp if anyone wants to try it

[ocean trout]

any not new units? they all not built in skills yet

[cobalt rapids]

i dont have chappy raised to try it

[atomic abyss]

Alsace and Soyuz are a year old...

[worldly pewter]

that is not anyone can try it

[atomic abyss]

You can use them instead

[ocean trout]

not them im talkin lion and trafalgar

[atomic abyss]

Frontline shd be Eld retro + Trafalgar/Aurora + Z52/Plymouth

Replace Lion with Soyuz or better still, Bismarck 2

[ocean trout]

eld retro also not built yet

[atomic abyss]

If no eld retro it's going to be actual hell lol

[rapid grail]

well if:

1. they're interested; and
2. they have the investment required/recommended (implicitly or otherwise),
   then by all means, go ahead
   just that its geared towards other boomers who have most likely cooked up their own fleets and/or copied CN/JP homework

[atomic abyss]

Hope you have Napoli then

[worldly pewter]

build eld

[ocean trout]

... thats legit the reason im doing this all.. to build eld (for pvp)

[atomic abyss]

Eld is like 10 months old retro at this point

[strong tartan]

use napoli then I guess

[atomic abyss]

Use Eld/Napoli or cope with 3-4 HKOs

[ocean trout]

so napoli aurora playmouth?

[atomic abyss]

Well for you that seems to be the best

I would recommend raising Eldridge asap regardless

[strong tartan]

what is chapayevs damage comparable to post aug im lazy to look at calcs

[ocean trout]

i cannot lvl her skills any faster than im doing right now :/

[atomic abyss]

Mainz level iirc

[slender linden]

is this the tech academy the PR mission is talking about?

[paper ore]

i think he meant lvls

[strong tartan]

that's good

[atomic abyss]

It is

[ocean trout]

i can solve that in 5 secs with books

[worldly pewter]

u didn't notice the stranger tag ?

[strong tartan]

would you rather he use Eldridge