gameplay-help

[fleet berry]

I spent 700+ cubes to obtain Gallant, Centaur, and Eagle. No more 100% collection for me now, I'm saving cubes.

[boreal temple]

rip 100 percent

[fiery swan]

Iirc second best main fleet AA gun

[forest palm]

3rd

[fiery swan]

What's the first

[forest palm]

Twin 76

[fiery swan]

I... have no idea what that is

[forest palm]

the latest UR AA gun

[fiery swan]

Isn't that general use

[forest palm]

it gives hit, so~

[fleet berry]

+15 HIT, high alpha, wide range.

[boreal temple]

man we got better staag whe I was gone??? jeez I'm slacking too much

[vague oracle]

feels good to be back after 3 years but at the same time ive forgotten how to play this game

[fleet berry]

I honestly think it's not worth to craft/upgrade. STAAG, the new EU UR aa gun, or bust, because in the early-mid game, the Hazermeyer is not as useful anyway.

[plain saffron]

it's good for HIT stats and upgradarable to STAAG

[forest palm]

Hazemeyer is fine

[boreal temple]

I wouldn't spend mats to craft staag tbh

just get em from research albeit slow

[forest palm]

if only to get plates back I would

[fleet berry]

Agree, but I'd rather save the resources until for later, since the HIT buff is not really something new-mid game players should care about.

But it just me.

[plain saffron]

isn't it also an accelerator so good for your fleet AA

[fleet berry]

Eh, I'll stick with gold/purple Roomba up to W13. Less headache overall.

[plain saffron]

AA is more than just range and dmg

you get 2 benefit in 1 and get back the mats when upgrade to STAAG so i don't see why not

when you have it might as well use it

[forest palm]

also the common player isn't going to mass produce 76s

[plain saffron]

i wouldn't go out of my way to farm it but in this case they already have the bp

[fleet berry]

Yes, but up to W13, you can brute force things. I'll not use STAAG for W15, at least, for backliners.

[stark quiver]

Then you die to slow aa

[fleet berry]

Fair.

[plain saffron]

are we playing the same w13

[forest palm]

this conversation is very silly, and doesn't really account for much of anything

[fleet berry]

I'll stop, as Taz has said.

[wind hazel]

nothing wrong with using staag for w15 backline

[plain saffron]

anyway is this situation with that player in that situation the haze is good to craft

[sinful fern]

guys shoud i continue try and get another lion for lb or save for next banners

[chilly plaza]

Quick question… are any of the METAS in the shop good?

[boreal temple]

never pull for dupes

[woven star]

@chilly plaza Don't remember names but 2 bbs for rld tech

[forest palm]

they have end game benefits, but for the casual player no

[chilly plaza]

Ok… because I might have impulse bought Hunter

And her crystals

[forest palm]

📣 Bismack Zwei is on the 19th, if you have 1 copy of Lion stop pull

[plain saffron]

it's fine

[woven star]

Not sure but worst decision from all ship in that shop

[ornate narwhal]

What is the emergency module development?

[fleet berry]

Extra aug daily raid.

[vague oracle]

too late

[chilly plaza]

Time to waste my money for New Jersey lmao

[stark quiver]

Oh my

[forest palm]

[plain saffron]

omg free money

@inner delta look free money

[forest palm]

<@&472236072743600148> questionable spam post that has nothing to do with this channel

[chilly plaza]

<@&472236072743600148> I need an adult

[ornate narwhal]

Wait so is there no banner until zwei on the 19th?

[molten violet]

It's being handled, thanks for reporting

[vague oracle]

too good to be true

[stark quiver]

Thanks babe

[little venture]

[plain saffron]

must be true

[jaunty vault]

Double mod ping

[forest palm]

[verbal torrent]

mod ping is crazy

[plain saffron]

[ornate narwhal]

How do I get ships that are currently on the heavy/special if I’m not supposed to pull on them?

[plain saffron]

pull events and hope you get them

[verbal torrent]

what

[chilly plaza]

Technically a triple ping lol

[plain saffron]

events have all of the heavy/special ships depending on banner

[ornate narwhal]

Ah ok

[woven star]

for future purchases from meta shop... get look at Fusou and Yamashiro META. both for +1 bb rld tech

[chilly plaza]

Will do

[woven star]

Hiyou, Junyou Meta for cv rld

[plain saffron]

cleo is event banner right?

[undone plover]

Yes she is

[plain saffron]

i think mine is broken

[novel solstice]

Don't break your ships, retire them with honor.

[ornate narwhal]

Which of the war archives should I do first?

[novel solstice]

Usually none of them -- there are no ships or equipment in war archives that are really good compared to recent event ships.
So if there's a specific waifu that you want, do that one.
If you really need german ships for unlocking PRs, do chessboard which drops several of them.
Otherwise you can ignore war archives.

[ornate narwhal]

Oh I was just asking bc it’s maxed at 60 tix rn, and idk what to do with it

[turbid marsh]

just let it overflow, its not something that you should be worrying about

[ornate narwhal]

Is there any HMS main fleet in the guild shop?

Who?

[plain saffron]

unicorn

[ornate narwhal]

Anyone else? I need one more to start unlocking monarch

[plain saffron]

chaser

[undone plover]

Focus on getting anchorage and agir or FdG
Usually developing 1 ship per season is enough
If those are not ready u can work on monarch that is fine

[boreal temple]

why do you need backline tho, even vanguard gives tech to unlock monarch

oh you meant cdc probably

[ornate narwhal]

I got St. Louis and started on Neptune but cannot do her combat data thing, so am doing monarxh I don’t have enough tech points to do any of the season 2+ ones…

[foggy phoenix]

Do we know any of the new augments? For example Warspite one?

[fair lance]

I don't think CN even started their maintenance yet.

[ornate narwhal]

Also how many times should I spend coins on upgrading a ship in the shipyard each day?

[orchid copper]

15time discount each day, if you have enough

[fair lance]

It's recommended to do 10 of PR and DR

past that the cost increases a lot

[ornate narwhal]

Oh ok

[boreal temple]

turns out you your ships can still die at w12 when you don't give em aa

[turbid marsh]

i mean w12 is still lv 100 map lol XD

[boreal temple]

[forest palm]

based on your knowledge you can get away with a lot in 12

[undone plover]

That is fine then
I recommend u start farming divergent chessboard war archive this week (after current event is over) to try and get KMS tech
Although tbh u could also just wait for zwei event

Do u have any KMS ships?

Zwei alone might not cut it

[boreal temple]

yea I should've known that tbh but I still went with it knowing there's not a single aa on my fleet of lvl 80-90

[teal ice]

who should i Pick?
new jersey Kronstadt or shinano?

[undone plover]

Shinano

[teal ice]

on the UR Exchange?

[undone plover]

Well that is what I assumed you are asking yes

Shinano until she is MLB then come back to ask
We might have musashi perma by then

[balmy skiff]

does halford perform like straight dogshit in al?

[undone plover]

Pretty much
She was average on release then now she is bugged and worse than retrofit starters

[teal ice]

maxed out?

[undone plover]

Yes I mean get shinano and keep getting her till u max her

[turbid marsh]

kinda, but her fate5 will be here like in 2 months i think

[teal ice]

probably gonna buy more UR bulin

[undone plover]

Save UR bulin for zwei

Zwei rerun next week

[warped tartan]

Where do you find that stage sir/ma'am?

[teal ice]

hmm aight

[undone plover]

War archives
I think it is bottom left where u want to pick the campaign stages

[boreal temple]

I'm missing z52 should I just mlb traf so I at least have a sidegrade or is raffa more valuable

[balmy skiff]

Zwei or Z52 first after Lion?

[boreal temple]

zwei

[teal ice]

now i got two carrier the first one is my wife amagi

[undone plover]

I think the jury is still out on raffa
She might actually be worth it this kawakaze fight idk
Overall she should be more useful than traf still
Like for campaign
Traf prob more valuable in bossing if u have other UR BBs

[warped tartan]

I want some help who should I choose from the (early summer invitation 2025) cuz I had no idea what should I get from the envelope 😅

[boreal temple]

I forgot to mention that I have every UR except z52 and those two are the last non mlb

[warped tartan]

Returning player btw

[boreal temple]

it's in pins

[undone plover]

I would say trafalgar over raffa then tbh

[teal ice]

what to change?

[undone plover]

Use unicorn and retrofit her (replace raffa)
Mlb lion
Vanguard could use some rework
Use roon laffey and helena

Start working on fleet 2 if u are around ch9-10

[teal ice]

still at ch 8-1

[undone plover]

When u reach ch9 make a thread and show what u have so we give a fleet 2 recommendation

[undone plover]

For now do the things I wrote here

[wheat ore]

who should i buy here?

[undone plover]

Save for now imo
When u start tech grind u can get junyou for cv rld

[silk sphinx]

Collection, meta ships are mostly optional. Junyou is the only one with important fleet tech

[wheat ore]

oh okay, i haven't started using any META ships, i think

[plucky ice]

are the brs collab ships any good

[undone plover]

I think above average is a good assessment

[hollow gust]

the battlecruiser is decent, CV is mid asf

[sinful escarp]

Do we know what warspite aug does yet?

[wind oxide]

datamine on the augments?

[hollow gust]

its literally impossible to have a datamine

[warped tartan]

Is getting trafalgar worth it or getting glorious META crystal?

[hollow gust]

datamine comes from CN updating earlier then us

[hollow gust]

trafalgar is a UR DD so natruall extremly powerful

[novel solstice]

Datamine literally cannot happen until the client update is available; it will still be some time before even the asian servers have the update to look at.

[sinful escarp]

1st traf copy, after that up to you

[keen owl]

Is this Skin Pack Cost efficient?

[stark quiver]

For?

[hollow gust]

if you have 2x still available do those

[keen owl]

Thanks

[plain saffron]

Better than non 2x assuming you're fine with any skin

Wait is it non 2x or 2x

Man discord mobile sucks

[hollow gust]

skill issue

[plain saffron]

Ok so it's better value than gems packs even with 2x it you're fine with any skins

[split moon]

what do I do with the 2nd one

[dawn zealot]

It isn't in your situation since you got 6 of the 8 skins and the L2Ds there already.

[wind hazel]

retire

[soft raft]

Scrap
there is zero pratical justification to raising dupes of any kind

[dawn zealot]

Yeah, unless you're a player that would collect dupes for multiple skins.

[warped tartan]

Also who should I prioritize? I don't know what goals I should do cuz I came back as a returning player from 2017 today

[hollow gust]

why make a thread if you are gonna post the image here

[warped tartan]

I don't know what to do actually 😅

[sinful escarp]

Do you have lion somewhere? If not might as well try and pull for her. Her banner is over in less than 24 hours

[warped tartan]

Can't pity, too risky 😞

[sinful escarp]

Lion is not a risk....

[hollow gust]

risky or not its the highest dps ship in the game...

[warped tartan]

I only have 100 cubes

[hollow gust]

and your BB roster is kinda just shit; like hood is your BB/BC

[sinful escarp]

Still pull

The biggest difference back then to now is that the meta is UR ships

[verbal torrent]

how do i unlock sp stage in a rose on the high tower

[sinful escarp]

D3

[fair lance]

Clear D3

[soft raft]

(Aka hard mode B3)

[verbal torrent]

thanks guys

[hollow gust]

its the last day of the event

[verbal torrent]

is D3 hard?

[verbal torrent]

fr?

i need like 11 more to get trafalgar lol

what do i do help

[sinful escarp]

Its possible if its that close

[wind hazel]

more grinding

[hollow gust]

clear all the missions, grind more points

[sinful escarp]

Buy the UR voucher with the points

[verbal torrent]

alr

6 more, im panicking rn

[sinful escarp]

You have more than 12 hrs

[verbal torrent]

im almost there

clearing b3 w cleopatra rn

my phone is lagging so hard

[warped tartan]

Only got 120

[hollow gust]

Never should have hesitated on by far the highest dps Bb ingame

[warped tartan]

I had no idea actually that it's THE highest dps in-game cuz I just came back 😅

[sinful escarp]

Well, since you have 100 cubes there is a chance

[verbal torrent]

YO I JUST GOT TRAFALGAR LETS GOOO

[mellow cape]

Nice

@warped tartan prio unicorn retro, black rock shooter event to unlock her as a perma ship, ignore warspite, and raise up san Diego (get her aug)

Black rock shooter is an above avg bb

San Diego non retro but with Aug is still a nice ship to have.

[pseudo hearth]

I’m planning on grinding Nahki next. What’s a good Main Fleet I could do based on who I have?

[mellow cape]

See if any of them have rld tech and raise those

I don't remember them off the top of my head lol,

Also obviously aquila

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, I was already considering her as the first obvious slot in. Was just unsure about who else was worth it.

[warped tartan]

Where or how do I get her augment? Assuming not the violet ones

[atomic abyss]

Conte for BB reload

I think Giulio has hit

[pseudo hearth]

Depot -> Craft -> Special -> look for the one that looks like a gun shooting stars (that’s Sandy’s)

[atomic abyss]

The gold one

[warped tartan]

Ooohhh thanks man

[sinful escarp]

Or just go to her and click on her augment slot

[pseudo hearth]

Depends on if he has her MLB right now

[warped tartan]

Ok ok I see

[atomic abyss]

VV has +2 FP

[soft raft]

Anyone got KawaM fleets yet
I know Rice was cooking something but I dont think he has a image for it

[pseudo hearth]

So Aquila, VV, and Conte?

[hollow gust]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

sort by the correct tech

[atomic abyss]

Mmhmm

[mellow cape]

Since youre prio pr7, I think you should focus on weapon blue prints and wait for the face research for nakimov and take those when you see them

Up to you, 2 LA9 nakimov is ideal

[atomic abyss]

Um what

[hollow gust]

You know what would make 2 LA9s quicker? Finishing the ships

[stark quiver]

~~quyet said leave one ur unfinished ~~

[whole crypt]

more rather we're like 2 months from PR8, that time is better spent rushing ships than coping for gear

[mellow cape]

Oh interesting, 2 months is enough time for 1 LA9 lowkey

[atomic abyss]

Is hindy gun in protocore?

So la9 shd be soon

[whole crypt]

2 months may be enough for 1 La-9

[hollow gust]

Getting a Nahkimov online is far more influential then a measly la-9

[whole crypt]

it's all RNG, and if you gear focus your ships are going to be in a sorry state when a complete Nakhimov is going to be more useful

[mild crest]

Is there a dev 30 order guide out there?

[sinful escarp]

You may have la9 but on a dev 20 nakh, not really useful

[whole crypt]

not really, better to finish series by series than ship by ship

[hollow gust]

Considering you should be hoarding pr prints too, no reason to put a la-9 over a nahk

[atomic abyss]

Friedrich de Grosse and Anchorage, then Plymouth
Are the important ones of note

[mild crest]

ah i see thank you

[atomic abyss]

The rest you can, yeah do any order

[mellow cape]

I guess I've done it slightly off order. I always did Weapons first before the ships

[pseudo hearth]

With the URs I have, once I get the bulins should I aim to MLB one of the ones I already have next, or wait till I get Musashi to MLB her instead?

[mellow cape]

And I just took face researchers for the UR ship I want and left the other one

[whole crypt]

you do that if you have time, from the launch of the series

[stark quiver]

If I start cubing with 600 cubes will I suffer a horrible death

[atomic abyss]

yes

[whole crypt]

PR8 is coming soon and might have priority over some older stuff, so you want to wrap up PR7 ships first and not come back

[mellow cape]

I seee

[whole crypt]

if PR8 gear turns out shit you can rush ships and come back for more La-9s

otherwise it's just moving on

[river junco]

when pr8 comes out, what type of research do I want to take so ive finished dev and have a decent number of copies of the ur gear by next pr? gear or face or grant?

[crimson glacier]

id always just get face when new season starts

[viscid swift]

One not 2

[hollow gust]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[mellow cape]

Gear I guess from what people are suggesting if you're at the launch of a new PR series?

[whole crypt]

wait was it early July?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[mellow cape]

And face if you start late af

[viscid swift]

August is PR fate sims

[crimson glacier]

can be late july too i dont think its set date

[atomic abyss]

it's likely july regardless

[hollow gust]

No?? It's up to personal preference; personally doing rigging when face researches are available is kinda stupid

[whole crypt]

well yeh then just wrap up 7 ASAP so you don't fall behind on 8

[atomic abyss]

whatever it is, another UR CL pls

[crimson glacier]

5 subs pls

[mellow cape]

Lmao now I'm confused

[whole crypt]

it works out if you're focusing gear heavily since ships end up finished quicker anyway

[mellow cape]

So just personal preference

[viscid swift]

There are no eligible subs for PR

Thankfully

[whole crypt]

not everyone feels the need for 5 or 6 La-9s

[crimson glacier]

just make shit up like with other PRs

[eternal moth]

I literally just made number 2 -.- I wish I had 5 of them

[warped tartan]

Where do i farm Gold? Im at ch 6 currently need gold ASAP

[viscid swift]

You do know PR is a collaboration with World of Warships right

[whole crypt]

there's basically no place to farm coins if you're only on ch6

[pseudo hearth]

Isn’t there one plausible for DR?

[crimson glacier]

and world of warships makes shit up

[whole crypt]

can you run D maps for event

[viscid swift]

yes, and they're the ones who have to make the shit up first

[molten zinc]

and til now they're all paper ship with the only exception is Halford but she's also WG bs since...yk F8F

[warped tartan]

Never though rolling on banners need GOLD

[viscid swift]

and there are no made up subs in WoWs, at least by name

[warped acorn]

what does the catch up blueprints amount given depends on

[whole crypt]

💳

[mellow cape]

Get your ships (raise sandy if you can) and get them to the bare lvl 100 minimum. And try to get to W10-12. Sandy solos AA when she's raised lol

[undone plover]

If u want to finish the season asap (get all ships to dev30)
U should focus D and H (if u have cubes)

If u want to finish the season with 1-2 more UR gear u should focus Q > G

Anyone telling u either one is dumb is being hyperbolic
Both are fine options
It depends what u want
Do u want to finish pr7 with 5 La9
Or do u want to finish pr7 in 2 months and end the year with 4 La9

[mellow cape]

I seeee

[whole crypt]

96 bars maybe can put some oomph back in vanguard...

[soft raft]

I should be able to finish PR7 by the time PR8 comes out if I only have Halford (D27), Napoli (D27) , and Nakh (D24) left to D30, right?

Kinda hope I dont need to go back/stay in PR7 any longer but I also did slack quite a bit lol

[molten zinc]

ah rite JP tier 15 already unlock by now

[hollow gust]

Lion Vanny Fritz?

[whole crypt]

Lion Als Bis

[viscid swift]

might be stretching it a bit

[whole crypt]

in a bit of a rush to grab ship first tweaking later

[undone plover]

I would worry more about La9 timing than ships tbh
Ships can always be skipped and finished with selectors

I would say rate is probably 10-15 BP/day when u are doing face research
So do some calcs with that number and see

[viscid swift]

Lion, Zwei, Fritz managed to 3 cycle fine and overkilled with just that in level 14, I forsee no issues for level 15

[soft raft]

I already have 1 LA-9 and I'm fine waiting for it to be protocore'd so im good on that front

[whole crypt]

as it happens they do have an issue for T15

it's a 75 but it's not a oneshot

[viscid swift]

what

[whole crypt]

oh Fritz

let me try after this run

[atomic abyss]

people not 1 shotting metas?

[turbid marsh]

can't imagine that

[whole crypt]

so which is it Lion Fritz and VG or Bis, or what esle

[stark quiver]

Why Fritz?

[eternal moth]

Riceist last night said Lion/Fritz/Alsace

[turbid marsh]

lion + alsace + fritz/bis/vg XD

[crimson glacier]

very good ship

[mellow cape]

I'm worried I won't get to finish my current LA9.. I'm 18/50 rn

[viscid swift]

triple BB is too much abslute cooldown for my no meta oathing ass

[stark quiver]

Would 4 strike bb be better or no?

[viscid swift]

this is a 4 strike set up that overkilled level 14 in 3 strikes

[hollow gust]

All the consistent comps right now are 4 shot

[eternal moth]

Using what, mk7?

[viscid swift]

yeah, 2 Mk7s

[whole crypt]

Mk7/MkII

[turbid marsh]

lion mk2, 2 mk7 i guess

[molten zinc]

it overkill tier 14 with like 15s to spare or something like that

[eternal moth]

2 mk7 and Fritz is what I'll be going with

[wind hazel]

lion mk2 is fast lol

[whole crypt]

well Lion/Als/Bis had no issues with 14 either but fell short for 15

[stark quiver]

I was about to say put a beacon on lion

My lion Alsace zwei had issues with lvl 14

[whole crypt]

that's a you problem

[wind hazel]

+10 mk7 moment

[viscid swift]

this is what happens when you neglect BB tech

[stark quiver]

It didn’t not one shot, but rather it took 4th strike to get the last 7 bars

[viscid swift]

you're not one shotting level 15 then

[wind hazel]

helena it up

[mellow cape]

x.x

[viscid swift]

okay

[mellow cape]

Is it even worth dev30'ing daisen and hal

[stark quiver]

Why not

[turbid marsh]

z52 aurora eld kai?

[viscid swift]

well Daisen is already dev 30

[crisp raven]

by how much did it fall short? a few bars? total vg wiped half way?

[whole crypt]

a few bars, vanguard survives but may not be entirely

[stark quiver]

Yur

[wind hazel]

what vg did you use? eld traf and? ply?

[crisp raven]

i see.

[whole crypt]

Ply

[viscid swift]

I used Aurora instead of Trafalgar

[stark quiver]

Let me do a few runs
I’m conflicted wether to +13 mk2 or 7

[wind hazel]

💀 so it's really +10 mk7 moment

[molten zinc]

[whole crypt]

let me just make sure I turned my tech back up after Hornet

[stark quiver]

I have a single +13 mk7 for pvp

[pseudo hearth]

Is it worth me using PR7 Prints (the ones that you can use for any PR ship) to just bring one of my PR7 ships straight up to Dev 30? I’m quite behind on PR7 and 6 because I’ve had to backtrack and get some older ships done.

[warped acorn]

should i go craft this after getting hazemayar from research

[wind hazel]

i wouldn't

[dreamy blade]

no, electronics are a commonly used resource and you have very few (also you dont even have the AA designs to craft that)

[soft raft]

I didnt particuarlly feel a need to craft STAAGs in gear lab, I got all of mine from researches

[stark quiver]

What was the rld and gear?

[whole crypt]

I need to craft another 3 more 76s

[fallen jay]

So I’ve got 80/200 in the pulls for Lion do I have enough time to actually get the pity if I keep pulling? Cause I’m pretty much out of gold and oil currently

[warped acorn]

oh damn

[undone plover]

Shouldnt u use fp aa cuz aurora caps the evasion rate

[hollow gust]

Today is the last day of events

[warped tartan]

@hollow gust got vittorio veneto but can't pull anymore cuz of the lack of GOLD 😞 😭

[soft raft]

depends on if you have enough cubes and coins to
keep in mind you need 400 cubes and 300k coins total to guarentee pity

[whole crypt]

kill on last second

[stark quiver]

[turbid marsh]

o nice

[fallen jay]

Oh…so I should probably just stop and save up for next event? Wait how can I get more oil to grind enoufh to get the emblems for the rainbow gun

[undone plover]

I would go all in on lion if u have the cubes
Use storage oil/missions if u still have them

[whole crypt]

Ply damage par with VG

[wind hazel]

worst UR frfr

[undone plover]

Check your mail and storage for oil
Get the weekly pack if u havent already

[hollow gust]

Well trafalgar things

[undone plover]

Is traf better than aurora? Or do u just like using her?

[whole crypt]

I just prefer Traf's buff

[molten zinc]

there's a lot of HMS so Traf to buff them further

[undone plover]

Sure but aurora also buffs everyone on that fleet

More relevant to backline ofc but still

[whole crypt]

Aurora may be better if the misses get really bad

[turbid marsh]

ofc aurora would be better here but traf doesn't loose too much tbh XD

[viscid swift]

I'll let your intuition fill in the rest

[undone plover]

No lion gun

[whole crypt]

Aurora is -20% eva rate, Traf's is -10% assuming it connects, but better self damage and also buffing Lion at least

[viscid swift]

it didn't work out for this setup

[undone plover]

Interesting

[fallen jay]

I have 8000 emblems will I be able to get enough to buy the gun?

[stark quiver]

Aight bet, so I should +13 another mk7?

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure where the hitrate currently sits but I'm keeping with Traf for now

[undone plover]

U need 11 d3 runs and 20 more token

[whole crypt]

anything I should try with my last assist attempt

[undone plover]

Or do the easy maps with x3 tokens for first clear of the day

[fallen jay]

Can’t do D3. For some reason it won’t let me bring Unicorn into the mission with me so my team is crippled

[undone plover]

Can u show me your team level?

[molten zinc]

seem like Eldridge is basically hard lock for this META then?

[dreamy blade]

no because i dont have her

[whole crypt]

is it one of those trying to fit Unicorn in a CV (not CVL) slot things

[warped tartan]

Do you guys have info on future banners?

[whole crypt]

we do not have any info on new banners
we have some idea of reruns based on speculation

[dreamy blade]

we only know biszwei rerun and ryza collab are upcoming

[stark quiver]

Alright this was able to 3 strike, left 3 bars but vanguard quickly dealt with it
@viscid swift is it unlikely I can one shot lvl 15

[whole crypt]

you're just way under level and stats

[undone plover]

Yeah d3 might be hard with these levels
Do the easy missions with 3x bonus
Then try d1 instead

[fallen jay]

I have Saratoga and it won’t let me put her o the team either

[undone plover]

U can put them but look at the bottom
There are requirements u need to hit

[warped tartan]

I see, thank you

[whole crypt]

you can go Penny/Unicorn/Saratoga but you'll need to fulfill the stat reqs listed below

[warped tartan]

I see, thank you

[fallen jay]

I’m trying to put in Hood/Unicorn/Saratoga but it won’t let me put all three of them

[whole crypt]

because Hood is not a BB

[undone plover]

U are low on oil
Do you have any left in storage? Mail?

[fallen jay]

Highest level I can do is C3 should I do that?

[fallen jay]

How do I check?

[undone plover]

Just check the mail button in your home screen then there is a storage tab

Should be top right of screen iirc for the mail icon

[fallen jay]

Only got 5000 oil in storage

How do I get more oil so I don’t have to wait for it?

[undone plover]

That is good enough

[fallen jay]

Also so I should be doing C3 right?

[undone plover]

U can get 2k tokens with that much oil
Have you done the x3 maps?
A1-b3?

[fallen jay]

Yes I have done that

[undone plover]

Ok then try for d1
And if u cant then do c2 instead

If u dont wanna risk it just do c2
But show me your oil consumption on c2 before u sortie

[sweet delta]

Yes

[whole crypt]

I'm just mucking around clearing dailies now so just shoot

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[hollow gust]

I'm assuming trafalgar better then aurora

[sweet delta]

Does Aurora survive 100% of the time?

[whole crypt]

enhance on 76 shouldn't make any difference right?

[fallen jay]

Why do C2 instead of C3? Also how do I show you the oil consumption? It just shows 10?

[whole crypt]

alpha not sure what you're shaking for

[sweet delta]

Aurora is more damage but she has to survive

[stark quiver]

It doesn’t make difference

[whole crypt]

I don't remember seeing planes on this thing

[undone plover]

C2 is 1 less fight
So it is more oil efficient
The oil consumption shows where u have the fleet in your home screen
When u add ships to the fleet
Just screen shot that part

[sweet delta]

No is the correct answer to your negative question according to English rules

Hence

[whole crypt]

English is hard, moonrunes are the way

[wind oxide]

https://youtu.be/Mi-2lJflQF8?si=VFvLZirHewbeuy5k

[undone plover]

I think yes would also mean the same thing for this question

[whole crypt]

what did redo cook

[sweet delta]

If you run my fleet, see how much it overkills by, does fritz 4th strike even hit

[hollow gust]

~~Rigged against lion ~~

[hoary valley]

maybe I should swap someone out? I think I'm starting to have problems with 10-3

[sweet delta]

You can see in the thumbnail, he used lion

[whole crypt]

dafuq +9 bowgun cope

[hollow gust]

What exactly is dying

[fallen jay]

Is this what you want d?

[viscid swift]

10 oil is the cost to enter the map

[whole crypt]

yeh I'll test it hang on

[wind oxide]

Last second win but that 52, eld, traf van survives lel

[viscid swift]

tap go and repeat to see how much oil you'll actually use

[fallen jay]

340 oil

[undone plover]

That is not good enough
U need 20 sorties so u want to use less oil

[fallen jay]

Yikes so what do I do then? I’ve just been doing the highest level I can do so far…

[undone plover]

Try hood unicorn + portland z23
See how much oil that is

[stark quiver]

How much more damage is yellow compared to white shell

[undone plover]

U have 5000 oil
So max is 250 per sortie that we can tolerate

[sweet delta]

Negative if you use Aurora against kawa?

[stark quiver]

Now does one achieve negative damage

[hoary valley]

z23 and shinano in most, just a little bit each

[sweet delta]

Dying or dying just a little?

[whole crypt]

last second kill but

• Eldridge was on +10 🌈 🦆 not mog gun
• Lion using Mk7 because I don't have enough gold plates for MkII yet
• thumb drive on Z52 instead of toolkit

[wind oxide]

Same thing then

[sweet delta]

Yeah mk7 doesn't give 4 full salvos

[whole crypt]

actually I think it finished the salvo just in time

that or boss died on 2nd set of shots from last salvo

now I just need another 300 gold gun plates

[turbid marsh]

easy, i trust u

[sweet delta]

Maybe you got stat boost from RPG

[whole crypt]

maybe

well swapping mog gun should take care of some of the shortfall if any

[hoary valley]

they survive on the boss of 10-3, but all remain without HP, last time died only vanguard, but i swapped her to nagato, i think she more useful

[fallen jay]

What do you mean I already have those 4 in the team?

[sweet delta]

So z52 traf Eldridge survives well?

[undone plover]

I mean keep only those 4
Get rid of the other 2
So u spend less oil
Those 4 should still manage to clear

[fallen jay]

Teams not strong to even enter the stage now

[whole crypt]

yeh none of them were within 10% by the end of the fight

[undone plover]

Put them on fleet 2
And dont use them in fight

[whole crypt]

it's going to be RNG but I think there's enough headroom, need more runs to check anyway

[fallen jay]

Ok it says 230

[undone plover]

I forgot c maps also have requirements

[undone plover]

That is good
U can get to 10k this way
Dont mess up when u buy the gun

And retrofit that unicorn asap

[sweet delta]

How expensive is fun?

[whole crypt]

the real question is how fast can I get uhhh... 201 gold gun plates

[undone plover]

20 days
Or 0 if u have selectors

[warped tartan]

Is vittorio good for BB? Also is tallin good?

[whole crypt]

I already counted selectors

[undone plover]

Both are decent but depends who else u have that is worth raising instead

[stark quiver]

What did you raise last time nnt

[warped tartan]

Do I have anyone worth raising here in this roster instead of vitt and tallin?

[whole crypt]

raise what

[stark quiver]

Use the gun plates on

[whole crypt]

I haven't been getting much gun plates for the past few months

last gun I +13'd was probably raff

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

first off, stop spreading your bullins so far and wide, non Max Limit Broken ships are garbage compared to MLB ones

[undone plover]

~~Thx cheeky for responding. I have to go ~~

Listen to cheeky

[viscid swift]

anyway, for now just stick to one fleet consisting of
Hood, Unicorn, Enterprise, Takao, Javelin, Z23

[sweet delta]

some vanguard variations for the same kawakaze meta main fleet, all should be 99.9% success with max tech. I have higher hopes for the pearl eldridge tank, maybe pearl isnt even needed but her dmg doesnt matter

[viscid swift]

Unfortunately I am too poor to pull any of these off

[sweet delta]

yeah apparently this meta is "trivial" with max accounts so people should find some fleets for poorer players

your unoathed Lion without Mk.II just has no hope of 4 salvo without RLD boosting

[little tree]

Does kawa meta put a lot of pressure on vanguard ?

Beans

[viscid swift]

yeah just gonna cope 3.5 is enough

[little tree]

Is there a replacement for hvar if I only have one ?

[whole crypt]

compared to like Jintsuu or Arizona this feels like high but not horrible

[sweet delta]

how's this for your poverty

[viscid swift]

I did think about that but would Geometric accuracy not be an issue, for Lion anyway

[silver lintel]

Is fritz just better than ykii vs light

[topaz smelt]

What are you lacking?

[little tree]

~~ how is cheeky poor~~

[viscid swift]

oaths

[sweet delta]

she's stopped for 3/4 salvos and i think that's good enough

[viscid swift]

I mean I have enough plates to +13 the Lion Gun, a Kearsarge gun, and the 2nd Skyraider, just really want to avoid committing so many gold plates if I can afford it

[topaz smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/790526502269616148/1381013653381447680/image.png?ex=684a95f0&is=68494470&hm=300e25cf5fa4faf2469e42ab2a2ffc88853bf4f3c52959caf7de7c948c3cb078&
Oathless, but you may need to fix the minor optimization yourself

[viscid swift]

hmmm

[topaz smelt]

It's just fix traf augs

[sweet delta]

Forgot you did jontsuu with a +10 kear gun

[topaz smelt]

The kear fleet is weak, gets to like 5 bars

[sweet delta]

Oh yeah aurora hits the hit cap so use black shells and 134 instead

[viscid swift]

oh right

[little tree]

There is a cap on hit ??

[viscid swift]

I mean, you can't go above 100% hit rate

[turbid marsh]

cn also made bis2 work too XD

[ember totem]

[limber sierra]

When it says limit breaking to max increases tech points is that litteraly or is it just leveling the ships to max in general? (I mean like does it only increase tech points at 120 or are they increased all the while?)

[topaz smelt]

I don't get the Aurora tho but ye this fights easy

[sweet delta]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
Collecting the ship (~20%)
Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
You can also use this Fleet Tech Tracker by retropaint

[limber sierra]

Thank you

[fallen jay]

The team was wiped out should I just add one of the two back in?

[undone plover]

Hmmmmm it will be dicey
Can u finish unicorn retro or are u lacking stuff?
Actually nvm u want to pull lion as well so preserve the coins

Add 1 back in sure
When the map becomes safe u can probably sortie with 4

Safe is when the def up icon becomes green

Also might as well show your gear tbh
Maybe u have sth wrong that can be fixed

[faint cloud]

gg

[topaz smelt]

Don't get why everyones trying Aurora over traf

[sweet delta]

Did Aurora die?

[faint cloud]

no

[sweet delta]

You have low tech or gear
Aurora is so much damage if she survives

[hollow gust]

Not enough damage output

[faint cloud]

but has the possibility to die in the last 5s or around

[topaz smelt]

Except traf is more

CNpilled

[steady vigil]

wtf does that mean xd

[fallen jay]

Is there a way to screen share on a phone since this is a mobile game?

[hollow gust]

How long is the meta fight again

[stark quiver]

1:17

[sweet delta]

1:20

[hollow gust]

Huh where is the other 20k coming from then

[faint cloud]

both low tech and gear

[topaz smelt]

Could try ply over z52

I find it more consistent

[sweet delta]

You added up the numbers? Blood shadows have 5k or something hp each

[faint cloud]

did 5, killed 3

[sweet delta]

"wtf are blood shadows? no idea, this meta boss has mechanics?"

[last swift]

Guys, I'm going to make a second fleet here, here's what I quickly threw in there

[sweet delta]

You can remove NJ and noshiro at least

Don't know what you have but they're not worth leveling

[last swift]

well like here are all my BB and CL, CL in this fleet should be a tank

[sweet delta]

Why must BB and CL

[fallen jay]

What can I do to optimize them?

[fallen jay]

This is what the four you want me to use have equipped.

[sweet delta]

You're already using 3 CLs, there's no reason like hard mode requirements to force a fourth CL into your fleets

[last swift]

well dude BB is the fleet boss, CL or CA should be a tank

[viscid swift]

don't overgeneralize ship capabilities by hull type

[fallen jay]

Did it come through? My screenshots?

[viscid swift]

pretty shit

[fallen jay]

I have zero idea what equipment is good for who

[sweet delta]

That makes no sense, post all of your purple and higher ships and say what content you'll use the fleets for. And I gtg so someone else might help you

[faint cloud]

maybe could try ply

[fallen jay]

The spreadsheet to the link you gave me yesterday makes my brain confused

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

give that a read

[sweet delta]

You didn't even try for 4 salvos?

[faint cloud]

it's 4

[viscid swift]

Lion doesn't get 4 salvos though

[hollow gust]

that lion hits 4 shots?

[faint cloud]

rld tech is max tho

[sweet delta]

It is not 4 salvos, more like 3.4 salvos

[fallen jay]

I have no idea what any of this means…

[viscid swift]

gimme a sec then

[fallen jay]

I am very very lost reading it

[viscid swift]

what are the other 2 ships you're using in the fleet

[last swift]

here are all the ships starting from purple

[hollow gust]

is that guide a bunch of picture? how did you get lost

[fallen jay]

I feel like a baboon trying to write Shakespeare. Helena and Saratoga. He said to take them off the main team so I could use less oil so I can get 10,000 emblems for the rainbow gun

[viscid swift]

照猫画虎，那么简单

[sweet delta]

[fallen jay]

…what?

[topaz smelt]

I knew this was a CN server

[fallen jay]

You guys said the event ends today?

[tropic tusk]

Oh zwei next finally

[last swift]

my second fleet should be relatively fast, otherwise my main fleet is a powerful but slow clamp

[sweet delta]

Cheeky I think you can help this lionless soul and go to bed

[viscid swift]

gimme a sec

[tropic tusk]

I love how cheeky just change his name for the upcoming thing

[hollow gust]

there are those with lion and those without

[fallen jay]

I don’t have Lion…I doubt I will be able to get her as I lack the gold to do enoufh pulls for pity…

[faint cloud]

wrong character detected

[viscid swift]

use whatever in the AA gun slots

[viscid swift]

where are you again in the main campaign?

how many UR and SR bullins can you get?

[tropic tusk]

@viscid swift could I request Ur godly help for building team for 15-3,4?

[topaz smelt]

Prob would have been easier to just link ectl and tell him to go nuts

[hollow gust]

but but but ectl bad

[topaz smelt]

Sorry for not being cn

[viscid swift]

a lot of people don't bother to look all the way down or don't realize some gears are in stacks

[viscid swift]

didn't I already give you a fleet?
whatever though, you know the drill

[topaz smelt]

I feel it takes a lot of unawareness to not see it, but I can understand not knowing how to cycle thru it

[last swift]

I stopped at chapter eight
Now with UR and SR Bullin problems
one went to improve New Jersey the other three to improve Black Rock Shooter

[tropic tusk]

U did but I have a few upgrades thx

[viscid swift]

well for a start don't spread your bullins out like that

[fallen jay]

AA is anti air right?

[topaz smelt]

But then again we've had ppl who didn't know how to scroll to the tl section

[viscid swift]

yes

[viscid swift]

so you have and can't get anymore SR Bullins right now?

[fallen jay]

Wait does this say what each weapon is? Are there multiple variants?

[tropic tusk]

W15-3-4

[viscid swift]

yes, there may be stuff with similar names and different rarities

[last swift]

Well, I can buy one in the store for medals

[viscid swift]

what did you use to push to chapter 8 in the first place exactly

[last swift]

This fleet is slow, but in turn it has excellent defense and good damage

[boreal temple]

what vg do you guys run at opsi mob?

[viscid swift]

I mean that's fine, if it's slow you probably have equipment issues but it's perfectly fine

[whole crypt]

how to cope if no eldridge retro

[topaz smelt]

At this point you should start looking to use gear past +6

[viscid swift]

Anyway for a 2nd fleet work on leveling Saratoga, Ark Royal, Richelieu

fleet should look something like
Mob: Richelieu, Unicorn, Saratoga, Duisburg, An Shan, Fu Shun
Boss: Nelson, Enterprise, Ark Royal, Portland, Helena, San Diego

[topaz smelt]

Raff

Or 3 strike it with Helena

[last swift]

well, like this first fleet should be used to destroy especially large bosses, and the one I want to make should clear out mobs

[topaz smelt]

You just split the fleet and level them

[fallen jay]

How do I get the Aviation Oil 3? And tool repair kit

[viscid swift]

tech boxes, you can use Purple Steam Catapults in place of Aviation Fuel tanks

[whole crypt]

guess I'll just 2shot it on my sub

[fallen jay]

So is this gear that I’ll be using for a long time? Is it worth investing in this stuff?

[faint cloud]

probably 100% by afct over black shell
auxes may not that important cuz even mine can almost oneshot every time
seems kawa meta is one of the easy metas

[viscid swift]

not that long but at least enough to get it all to +6, some of it like the 410, Corsair, and Helldivers you can take to +10 as they'll be with you a little longer

[fallen jay]

Man this is all so complex. Is there any videos by you to show exactly how everything works?

[viscid swift]

no

[hushed sorrel]

if you want to go slower you can do so. no need for haste. the best way may not be yours

[paper walrus]

who is melena

[fallen jay]

I just really wanna to get the main rainbow gun from the event before it’s gone

[hushed sorrel]

if i am not wrong you got like 13-14h left to get the points for it

[topaz smelt]

Yt is a terrible place for AL info, best info is found in written guides

[viscid swift]

Helena META

[devout turret]

It’s only a little better than the purple 406 until +13 anyway so no sweat

[paper walrus]

i thought thats helmet.. unless its both?

[viscid swift]

a ship can have multiple nicknames, it's why I prefer to use full names

[last swift]

Guys, in your opinion, where is it better to put Black Rock Shooter, as a boss or as a support?

[viscid swift]

oh right you had her MLB, use her instead of Richelieu in your mob fleet

[last swift]

ok

[sweet delta]

Can't be 100% if there's the possibility of every single one of your attacks not crit or the boss chips 10% hp every 5s

[little tree]

Is musahi the mobbing queen still or would lion beat her

[topaz smelt]

She was never a queen

Shes carried by aql

[turbid marsh]

musashi + aquila still a bit strong XD

but thats just aquila doing aquila things XD

[last swift]

Dude is it worth putting De Zeven in the tank role

[little tree]

~~ muashi carries the other backlines by absorbing dmg~~

[turbid marsh]

why? she doesn't have that kind of tankness...

[viscid swift]

I mean I wouldn't feel the need to level her up from scratch when you have so many servicable vanguards already leveled

[last swift]

I already have a semi-finished Admiral Hipper META, can I install it?

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't

just concentrate on what you have

[sweet delta]

By semi finished you mean 0LB?

[little tree]

[faint cloud]

[hollow gust]

Just use Lion

[atomic abyss]

lion kear yk2 🧠

[turbid marsh]

wait...

[ornate narwhal]

Approx how many months will it be till each UR gets on the standard/gets a rerun. Like Ik that we don’t know exactly how long, but like when are they estimated to return/become standard

[atomic abyss]

rerun is at least 2 years

perma is at least a year after that

[ornate narwhal]

So for muscachi it’s like 8+ months? And for unzen it’s like 4 months?

Also when is the next new UR?

[fallen jay]

So I’m probably gonna be asking again later tonight about gear and how it works when I can get on my computer so I don’t have to switch between the game and discord constantly

Also does the event end in two hours?

[viscid swift]

14 hours

[fallen jay]

Ok then I should have time to get the 10k I need. I’m at 8,500

[faint cloud]

perma more like 9 months?

[atomic abyss]

no lol

at least a year

usually more

[boreal temple]

plenty of time dw 10k is easy

[hushed sorrel]

nope. till tomorrow before the update. day change is in 12 or 13 hours

[atomic abyss]

yeah for unzen

musashi rerun was oct iirc so

[atomic abyss]

JP anni probably

so sep

[ornate narwhal]

So like 4 months till perma?

[atomic abyss]

maybe

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

everything is a maybe

[hushed sorrel]

it can vary a bit

[atomic abyss]

if they casually forget to archive something we could be delayed too

[boreal temple]

ah yes the trademark 🔮

sashi still takes a spot for heavy bb boss fleet right?

[faint cloud]

vanny reruns at 24.7.18, perma 25.4.17
kron is 24.4.11, perma 25.1.9
uvh is 24.1.11 perma 24.10.17
shima is 23.11.9 perma 24.7.18
so probably 9 months or so

[atomic abyss]

yesss
prolly lion sashi + bis2

[boreal temple]

thankies

so basically sashi is perma mob flag now for opsi unless it's heavy harby

[cobalt gate]

so any ship to replace z52?

[ornate narwhal]

On the 400 cube standard UR pity after getting each UR should I just not limit break the old/bad ones and just use the pity to LB them?

[hollow gust]

plymouth arguably just better

[atomic abyss]

use the pity to limit break the relevant ones

[boreal temple]

by the time you reach 400 cube pity on standard you probably have a decent dock of URs from newer events, unless of course you spend more than a reasonable amount of cubes on standard

[atomic abyss]

as goose said, ply
you can also try traf

a bit weird to have rumey but not z52 tho

[cobalt gate]

thanks will try that

[boreal temple]

ouch man I'm catching strays too

[topaz smelt]

traf should be just better as well

[atomic abyss]

and with eld, no need to worry about traf being frailer too

[hollow gust]

Isn't trafalgar just tankier then Aurora

[topaz smelt]

and provides more

[atomic abyss]

i mean traf frailer than z52

[cobalt gate]

so does traf and aurora skill stack?

[sweet delta]

Yeah they stack and take your BB hit rate to 110%

[boreal temple]

damn that's something

[sweet delta]

Or 115%

[boreal temple]

is that with max tech or without

[cobalt gate]

no wonder running black ammo

[hollow gust]

Why would that matter , they don't compete for the same slot

[atomic abyss]

goose

[sweet delta]

You can assume every shared fleet assumes max tech and oaths unless stated otherwise

[atomic abyss]

the person is asking what if he doesnt have z52 lol

[forest palm]

reading comprehension

[hollow gust]

Then he uses Plymouth, trafalgar isnt replacing z52

Trafalgar replaces Aurora

[forest palm]

nice to see you're up to speed

[atomic abyss]

goose...

would ply buff and dps be better than traf's debuff here lol

[cobalt gate]

wonder if warspite augument will save her

[viscid swift]

I bet you 1k gems it doesn't

[forest palm]

it'll probably be another band-aid fix

[cobalt gate]

i mean maybe become fdg lvl?

[atomic abyss]

HMS PVP meta with Lion and Warkai

well

[hollow gust]

Ply replaces Z52
Trafalgar replaces Aurora

They don't compete for the same slot, why are you even comparing ply and z52 with trafalgar

[topaz smelt]

im kinda expecting them to just give her another barrage

[little tree]

Give her a more okay barrage

[forest palm]

I'm just keeping my expectations low

[faint cloud]

anyway kawa is an easy meta so don't worry and feel free to change vanguards as long as there's eldridge the god

[white agate]

give her a hms buff skill

[forest palm]

she's only really easy if you have Eldridge lol

[atomic abyss]

if you have read the guy's question
he was asking what would replace z52 in a specific vg of "eld retro, aurora and z52"
are you saying ply would be more beneficial to the overall dmg than traf?
why cant traf replace z52
it's not a perfect replacement but why do we need one?

[topaz smelt]

with the ongoing trend
+1 salvo load
an onfire barrage
some random mech for more damage

[atomic abyss]

why cant we run aurora and traf together?

[topaz smelt]

cuz it dies

[viscid swift]

what would be the point

[atomic abyss]

isnt that what eld is for

[topaz smelt]

and it way over caps

[viscid swift]

yeah

[topaz smelt]

stuff still dies with eld, eld doesnt make you god

[hollow gust]

Aurora overcaps which is why trafalgar with Hms buff is stronger

[topaz smelt]

ppl also sleeping on vanny

[hollow gust]

I'm running my eagle comp first and then fucking around with Vanny

[sweet delta]

@atomic abyss

[atomic abyss]

i mean

[white agate]

it kind if does if u lucky

[rigid onyx]

might as well use helena atp

[topaz smelt]

i definitely want to depend on luck for 100% kills

[atomic abyss]

none of the meta ohko tryhards here do

[hollow gust]

Next thing is ender talking shit about Plymouth not a tank again

[topaz smelt]

ye they just copy cn

[elfin hollow]

Is Bremerton any good?

[faint cloud]

weird debates

[atomic abyss]

brem isnt

[atomic abyss]

and she isnt
you and I just have different definition of the term tank lol

[viscid swift]

no

[topaz smelt]

is alo now mebotpilled

[pseudo hearth]

She's not bad. But she's not amazing either. There's plenty of ships who do her job better than her.

[atomic abyss]

goose definition of tank is

"if it can tank the content i want it to tank, she is a tank"

[topaz smelt]

well if it lives its a tank

[rigid onyx]

which is probably the most correct defintion of a tank tbh

[atomic abyss]

which is fine, but it means your answer changes according to content

[hollow gust]

Plymouth can main tank in 95% of contents; guess she can't tank

[viscid swift]

well 95% of content doesn't really matter does it lamo

[topaz smelt]

are you trying to say "if it works, it doesnt work"?

[rigid onyx]

Any other definition is arbitrary and no less capricious

[sweet delta]

Sirius is a tank

[atomic abyss]

my dude, you thought the albion report made ply significantly tankier

when it doesnt

[hollow gust]

You can count the number of meta that Plymouth can't tank on one hand

[viscid swift]

Like, I've been using something like this to tank "most" content

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, a tank's job is to soak up HP for the rest of the squishy Frontline. If she's doing that well, she is a tank. There could obviously be an argument about if she's the "best" at the tanking role, but just because she isn't the best doesn't mean she's not a tank.

[topaz smelt]

its almost like its ok for the tank to die most of the time for meta fights

[serene moth]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[atomic abyss]

report gave her extra 1% ehp iirc

[pseudo hearth]

What does her skill do again?

[sweet delta]

Heal fleet when another allied ship sinks

[viscid swift]

it's a percent based heal that only procs when someone in your fleet dies

can't make this shit up

[hollow gust]

Mebot does calculations that average out ehp; Albion is still a noticable improvement in some bosses

[viscid swift]

not even guranteed to proc

[topaz smelt]

are ppl taking mebot as gospel again?

[hollow gust]

It's almost like you hate people using Plymouth as main tank

[little tree]

~~ me bot is the best ~~

[woven star]

Nice tank

[topaz smelt]

cheeky might be onto the next pvp meta

[viscid swift]

lamo

[woven star]

I'm feel like she opposite definition of tank

[hollow gust]

One tick of Lion makes that skill useless

[pseudo hearth]

Juneau + Urakaze + DM + Hiryuu

[topaz smelt]

just dodge it

[hollow gust]

Right just dodge Helena radar

[pseudo hearth]

Just dodge Implacable freeze

[rigid onyx]

A model for 'what a tank is' is always going to be inaccurate but to be honest a bar that excludes ply but includes z52 seems somewhat overfitted towards w14/w15 pressure

[little tree]

Z52 is an very good tank for content

[patent pivot]

lmao

[pseudo hearth]

One could argue that Juneau is a good tank because she'll soak up damage first and die healing the other ships. Tanks in this game are definitely looser in definition than other games.

[little tree]

~~ never used ply she sits on the bench ~~

[pseudo hearth]

Just an example btw, I'm not suggesting one to run Juneau in end game content LOL

[atomic abyss]

[topaz smelt]

i feel like ppl still havent gotten past the general description of a tank meant for newbies

[woven star]

Depends on. But now z52 become a synonymous for fcoff on question what tank take

[viscid swift]

I remember an accuqntence way back in the day used Juneau to clear W13

[forest palm]

think it's fair to say Plymouth's bulk is acceptable, but not for all content

[viscid swift]

this was back when Monarch was still the best BB

[atomic abyss]

i already said earlier it depends on the definition lol

[pseudo hearth]

Was this after or before she got her retrofit?

[atomic abyss]

long before

[viscid swift]

way before

[atomic abyss]

juneau retro is relatively new

[topaz smelt]

i knew a guy that beat w13 with only blue ships

way back

[strong tartan]

like 2019 before

[pseudo hearth]

Ah ok

[forest palm]

Lv 1 Mutsuki used to Solo Taihou

[pseudo hearth]

Tbh, I forgot when W13 even dropped

[viscid swift]

Sarat0ga

[topaz smelt]

those taihou speedruns were kinda fun ngl

[forest palm]

I do miss the days of face torp speed running

[atomic abyss]

juneau retro was sep 22

[topaz smelt]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Qp2gjORy8lgTrMc2XZ/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[atomic abyss]

avrora and tani kai

[turbid marsh]

ooo tanikaze

[atomic abyss]

yeah thats old

[topaz smelt]

this is like 2022

[forest palm]

old is like Ibuki + Jintsu...I forget if people used Sendai back then...

[turbid marsh]

for pvp yes

[topaz smelt]

ill 1 up that

[atomic abyss]

jin doesnt buff ibuki

[strong tartan]

wasnt it noshiro

[topaz smelt]

https://giphy.com/gifs/PkozWNSThzvnj0yix7

[atomic abyss]

nosh yes

[forest palm]

now that's a classic

[pseudo hearth]

IIRC Yukikaze saw a good amount of use for being both a Torp fiend and quite tanky

[atomic abyss]

the weird thing is

she never really was that tanky

there is a shit ton of luck with her tho

[topaz smelt]

pretty much everyone back then who did ehp failed the yykz test

[atomic abyss]

cos it turns out back then, there were far less math literate people

[turbid marsh]

ah yes the test of luck

[atomic abyss]

and our eHP calcs were mostly based on stats and stat buffs

[topaz smelt]

and its still is

[atomic abyss]

not weird skills like ykk

[topaz smelt]

we have much worse now

laffii is a hellspawn

[little tree]

Does she fuck with the standards?

[atomic abyss]

wouldnt a "peak" ykk out tank everyone except laff2 in theory

[topaz smelt]

you pretty much need to assume a specific dmg to do laffii

before her you can assume a stream of 1dmg and be relatively fine

altho theres major flaws with that already

peak yykz will out tank laffii

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, I think you can get Yukikaze to 100 luck with luck boosting gear. She has 93 normally and gets an extra 5 from one of her skills, meaning without gear she has 98.

[atomic abyss]

i mean thats not the point

[pseudo hearth]

Although I forget which equipment gives luck again

[atomic abyss]

ykk has a like, 25% chance to take 1 dmg

[sleek tulip]

My Bismarck is stuck at 90 Affinity… why? Can anyone help pls?

[atomic abyss]

secretary only raises affinity up to 90

anything beyond that, you need to use her in battle

it takes around 16 battles to get 1 affinity
rate is doubled if she MVPs

[sleek tulip]

But she’s in battle and also in dorm

[atomic abyss]

1 dorm heart is like, 2-6 battles at most

[fallen jay]

Can’t wait to get home so I can finally start actually learning gear more from you guys.

[sleek tulip]

I will try more battles but thanks first 🙂

[pseudo hearth]

Ah, Kizuna Headband gives 2 Luck, I almost forgot.

[rigid onyx]

1 dorm heart is 0.05affin

[eternal basalt]

1 dorm heart is 0.001 battle

[pseudo hearth]

That I know, I used to use her a lot. I meant more so you could force her to pretty much max luck? Actually can you go over 100?

[atomic abyss]

i stand corrected

[forest palm]

to think we thought dorm hearts were bugged at one point

[topaz smelt]

may as well be bugs since we have to squash them when ever we went to dorm

[rigid onyx]

sorry I lied, it's 0.0125 - 0.015625 points.

So even less

[sleek tulip]

I will send her to “A Rose on the High Tower” event stage D1 hard mode clearing mode all escorts three times, so after that she must have one affinity point more?

[forest palm]

I think it's evident how shit the gains are, but they're free nonetheless

[topaz smelt]

youll more often than not 120 them before they get 1 heart

[rigid onyx]

You have to get ~72 dorm hearts which is like, 2 months in the dorm?

[topaz smelt]

if theyre in dorm, theyre often gonna be in your fleet

[eternal basalt]

Doubt it's that fast

[pseudo hearth]

The dorm hearts don't have much of an impact then really either though

[rigid onyx]

idt there's been a ship in my dorm for more than a month nvm subs

[topaz smelt]

i tihnk i actually dormed a ship to 120

51 aff

[eternal basalt]

I mean, I doubt you get 72 hearts in 2 months

[atomic abyss]

she should yes

[sleek tulip]

Okay I will try thanks

[elfin hollow]

is she good?

[tame jungle]

nope

[viscid swift]

not particularly

[turbid marsh]

your standard new era cl, usable but loads ships better......

[pseudo hearth]

She is fine, but worse than other options.

[sleek tulip]

Is there any way to sell META-Ships?

[tame jungle]

no but they also don't take dockspace

[pseudo hearth]

No, but they don't take up dockspace

[sleek tulip]

Fr? Nice this solved everything:)

[orchid tangle]

i bouta go insane what tf is this exclaimation mark??

[carmine heath]

what bb should i get from medal shop? currently have bismark, hood, and warspite

[sweet delta]

It means your master and officers are slacking

[hollow gust]

Small guild things

[hollow gust]

Just grab Tirpitz for tech

[sleek tulip]

Is there any way to earn gems f2p except collection?

[eager mulch]

comissions, guild supplies, events, apologems

[sleek tulip]

Commissions???

how

[eager mulch]

rare commissions can rarely give gems

[atomic abyss]

rare urgent commissions have a chance to give gems
rarely

[sleek tulip]

I’ve never seen one

[atomic abyss]

hence rare

they're very rare

and they give gems very rarely

treat them as a bonus

and not part of gem income

[pseudo hearth]

Also you haven't been playing very long

[swift hornet]

You can get through guild?

[sleek tulip]

I’m LvL 88

[atomic abyss]

that isnt very long

also those comms arent the regular night time urgent comms

[sleek tulip]

and before that two times like lvl 40-60 but I lost these Accounts

[atomic abyss]

they're the urgent comms you sometimes get when farming

so you pretty much have to be an active player to see them

[sleek tulip]

How to get gems in guild or events?

[atomic abyss]

CNY events and EN Anni event give them as mail usually

im fairly sure you dont get them from guild

[sleek tulip]

How often and how much?

[atomic abyss]

CNY is once a year
EN anni is once a year

CNY is usually what, 200?
anni depends on what year

[hollow gust]

#th x 100, this year should be 800 gems

All of which should go towards dock

[pseudo hearth]

Which event is this from again?

It's Ning Hai's plane

[soft raft]

Eh
That stat wheel means jack shit btw

[sleek tulip]

So f2p it is really hard to collect gems… 🥲

[atomic abyss]

well

yes

but you dont use gems to roll after all

[sleek tulip]

But I need them for the promise crate offer 😔

[atomic abyss]

that's for 🐳

[sleek tulip]

Why?

[atomic abyss]

^

[eager mulch]

you can get gems from guild daily supplies

[atomic abyss]

you dont have the resources to spare for anything else

i suppose you could at the cost of your collection and qol

[crisp raven]

1% from the guild supply collection thing. but like with the rest of the discussion, not farmable nor reliable. but they do exist for a mega cope.

[atomic abyss]

as good as gem comms then

[viscid swift]

some random early event, I don't think it's even on EN or JP

[sleek tulip]

So I will earn only about 200 gems per year… let’s expand dock capacity…

[daring flower]

i made a rly dum mistake lmfao i bought the shop pack that "unlocks a development ship" but i assume it doesnt actually unlock that ship and u still need to do all those milestones like earn fleet exp and stuff to unlock it unlock it?

[soft raft]

iirc there's different packs for just the blueprints to D30 it and the ship unlock + blueprints

[daring flower]

maybe idk how to use it XD oop

[paper walrus]

Which one should i choose

[soft raft]

Prob Harbin

[pseudo hearth]

Ah ok, was curious because I was looking at some HIT equip on the wiki

[sleek tulip]

If a muse ship will reach 100 affinity it can wear all skins from original?

[daring flower]

Is there a reason not to use spec cores to buy both UR bulins/month

[sleek tulip]

also oath skin when when the muse ship is oathed?

[tame jungle]

yes to save dock space

[boreal temple]

muse does not count as an alter afaik

[tame jungle]

while your spec core income is capped, the amount you can hold is functionally infinite

[daring flower]

oh oops UR bulins arent limited to 2/month idk what i was rmbing

[boreal temple]

might be wrong tho been a while since I last checked

[hybrid willow]

It unlocks a ship outright so you can skip the tasks. You'll still need to get it to dev 30+ on your own though

[daring flower]

tysm also i keep reading ur name as lion lube

[tame jungle]

🫵

[hybrid willow]

🤣

[daring flower]

oh hmm i tried to unlock anchorage but maybe im doing it wrong idk im just a girl oh i cant send that gif here

[pseudo hearth]

Wrong

They all can equip skins from other alts

[boreal temple]

ah mb for misinfo then