gameplay-help

[elfin hollow]

do i pull from here or can i just try to get lion

[wind oxide]

Prioritize on lion first

[elfin hollow]

alright

[woeful spade]

is trafalgar worth it to max?

[stark quiver]

She’s good
But depends if you have better priorities

[turbid dawn]

How good is Trafalgar even? When levelling her she’s seemed a bit underwhelming for a UR, it seems like she’s just kinda average at basically everything. She’s deffo no replacement for Z52 or even on par with her I think

[topaz smelt]

pretty good generic boss buffer for synced fleets, kinda weak personal dmg

[turbid dawn]

It only rebuffs speed by a little and EVA rate right? Then buffs only RN ships, surely if you want an EVA debuff you’d use Aurora right?

10% I think it was?

[topaz smelt]

aurora only works on dd/cl

[stark quiver]

I wouldn’t use aurora vs med and heavy

[topaz smelt]

and aurora tends to be overkill on a lot of bosses with bbs

[turbid dawn]

True but I don’t think Eva rate debuff is needed on anything but DD/CL, no?

[topaz smelt]

its good everywhere

[stark quiver]

Eva debuff is good on enemies

[turbid dawn]

What do you think her role/job will be then and where? Because it seems like she’d struggle to compete with the current set of VG

[stark quiver]

Z52,traf, ply is good

[topaz smelt]

.

[forest palm]

Lion certainly appreciates Traffy

[topaz smelt]

everyone does

prob the next strongest non helena buffer we got but she needs to live

well for bbs

[stark quiver]

Staying alive isn’t too much of a problem for where she matters in
Maybe not this meta and strength tho

[topaz smelt]

this meta is an eld check anyways

[stark quiver]

Yea

We have come full circle
And it’s now back to “get lucky”

[forest palm]

Kawakaze needs Eld?

[topaz smelt]

heavily dependent on her

[forest palm]

like that one CM with Soyuz?

[topaz smelt]

i prob made like 1 fleet that didnt need her

[stark quiver]

No, and aries wasn’t even hard on vanguard

[turbid dawn]

What is eld?

[topaz smelt]

nah its just stupid amounts of dmg, it kills laffii and napoli before 3/4 salvo

[stark quiver]

[forest palm]

back then if you didn't have Soyuz, Aris was a bitch lol

[elfin hollow]

is dead master permanent

[hollow gust]

No

[elfin hollow]

😭

[turbid dawn]

Oh Eldridge ofc. Is this meta boss really gonna pump out that much dmg?

[forest palm]

you just have to kill a bunch of shit it's so easy la

[ripe bluff]

What role does blackrock shooter fill anti light? medium? heavy? mobbing? bossing?

[topaz smelt]

non ur dock filler

[wind oxide]

Plymouth Z52 and traf works too

[stark quiver]

Yea

[ripe bluff]

Ok but what if I do really want to actually use her

[stark quiver]

The cm?

[ripe bluff]

Ive made Indianapolis work I can make anyone work

[forest palm]

no getting DM

[hollow gust]

Lmao making Indianapolis work is carrying a dead fish

[topaz smelt]

anything works if you throw enough urs at it

[hollow gust]

Also ello ricest

[topaz smelt]

ello ill be here for a week

[ripe bluff]

I guess Ill put her on anti light duty cus I have an empty spot to fill there definitely not coping not getting lion

[hollow gust]

I'm just gonna run Keary Lion Yorky

[forest palm]

how do BRS and DM stand as SSRs, cause it's dumb to just go hurr durr UR when it's obvious

[topaz smelt]

i tried not enough dmg unless highroll

[stark quiver]

So you’re just gonna blast thru with pure tech and oaths

[hollow gust]

What did you end up using

[topaz smelt]

pretty much any 4 strike comp

[ripe bluff]

Right now I got Kearsarge and San Martinho

[topaz smelt]

lions goated as expected

[ripe bluff]

Third spot I just pick someone random and give them an HE gun

[stark quiver]

How does the soy nakh Fritz 4 strike comp fare

[topaz smelt]

kinda weak actually

[wind oxide]

Lion is almost on every fleet

[topaz smelt]

i rmbr it wasnt consistent

its issue is you dont have lion

[stark quiver]

Good thing I oathed my lion

[forest palm]

Lion burn is rather silly

[topaz smelt]

pretty much eld and traf are hard locked, everything else is pretty flexible

altho ive mostly been trying fritz +2 comps

[stark quiver]

Traf? Fuck I’m cooked

[topaz smelt]

traf can be subbed but expect it to be slightly weaker

[stark quiver]

Surely we can get her to 125 before lvl 15

[hollow gust]

What you using Soyuz Nahk Lion ?

[topaz smelt]

fritz + lion + 1

[forest palm]

why are you slacking

[topaz smelt]

you can prob get away with 120

[raven canyon]

jeez those gears

[stark quiver]

mfw aquila

[raven canyon]

i cant bring myself to grind op, too lazy

[topaz smelt]

just get her flare maxed

[forest palm]

that loadout isn't practical btw

[wind oxide]

that twin 100mm got 100% burn application
is that a bug?

[raven canyon]

yeah but its a great flex

[stark quiver]

Yea I just want more shiny

[hollow gust]

Makes more sense , cause Fritz Soyuz nahk loses to Eagle for me against light

[forest palm]

it's really not much of a flex lol

[topaz smelt]

mainly cuz fritz can 4 strike easily and doesnt gun cuck

[raven canyon]

i guess it is for me not much of a grinder

[wind hazel]

what's the +1

[stark quiver]

Ranger

[topaz smelt]

pretty much any ur bb

[stark quiver]

Are we resummoning warspite

[raven canyon]

ancient

[hollow gust]

Then it's biscuit

[topaz smelt]

i dont have bis + lion on my list for some reason

prob didnt test it? or didnt like it for some reason

[hollow gust]

Tf you use then ?

[stark quiver]

Alsace might be better no?

[topaz smelt]

soy, alseggs, vanny raff

[wind hazel]

raff

[topaz smelt]

well raff was for the non eld comp

[stark quiver]

I mean raff might be good

[topaz smelt]

prob too weak with eld

[forest palm]

[topaz smelt]

not even +13

[forest palm]

I know right?

[raven canyon]

oh cool i didnt know fubuki's a CV DD hybrid

[hollow gust]

She just lets you run a DB, nothing special

[zinc hornet]

hi, haven't popped in here much in a few weeks. are any of the new ships (both event and collab) particularly good?

[raven canyon]

i know this is the vtuber fubuki and not trhe ship girl btw

[topaz smelt]

her bombs actually drops so it does make her special

[stark quiver]

Lion and traf is good

[hollow gust]

Lion trafalgar op

[forest palm]

being able to run a DB is so goofy, and I love it

[stark quiver]

Now now , halford would be sad if she heard that

[forest palm]

good she's a disappointment

[zinc hornet]

lion and traf priority for mlb?

[topaz smelt]

she got a skin as compensation

[raven canyon]

i have traf and lion but I don't really have any use for them as of right now since i have z52 and musashi on my boss fleet, but maybe i could switch out z52 for traf

[stark quiver]

What are your other mlb URs

[zinc hornet]

my other rainbows

[wind oxide]

Better to pair her with Z52

[raven canyon]

hm

should i replace plymouth with traf then?

[stark quiver]

I’d personally do implacable first then lion

[wind oxide]

who's the third ship bruh

[raven canyon]

okay so agir - z52 - ply

[wind oxide]

swap in traf for agir?

[raven canyon]

oh is traf that tanky

[wind oxide]

No ply and 52 are tanky enough

[stark quiver]

z52,traf,ply

[raven canyon]

ic

[zinc hornet]

alrighty, ty. I'll probably be back for fleetbuilding help once I've made some more progress on them

[sinful fern]

guys is there a best ship or strongest ship in al or its situational?

[hollow gust]

Situational

[serene moth]

The same goes for gear

[topaz smelt]

helena

[hollow gust]

That's your favorite girl, baised smh

[topaz smelt]

i still havent changed her name

[elfin hollow]

here is my formation and i want to invite someone that can replace dead master since she isnt permanent character. which one should i invite from early summer invitation

[cobalt rapids]

shes permanent wdym

also u can show ur dock

[elfin hollow]

sure

[cobalt rapids]

penny should be replaced by BRS

[elfin hollow]

wait so which one is saying the correct thing

[cobalt rapids]

i mean he meant that aquiring her is limited but once u get her shes not going anywhere

[cobalt rapids]

BRS is aswell btw if u just do some simple gameplay and get the day 3 rewards

[elfin hollow]

you mean limited time log in reward?

[topaz smelt]

do the event missions

[elfin hollow]

which one i almost completed villa ones

[cobalt rapids]

BRS deadmaster unicorn - smol agir helena laffey looks fine

[elfin hollow]

alright thanks for the team one more thing

do i level them up along the way or just lock in and sortie at highest possible level i can do with them

[topaz smelt]

pretty coin expensive, but you do you
you seem intent on using them

[elfin hollow]

i was saving my coins for 10 pull 😭

[cobalt rapids]

i mean you probably should be farming in B3

[elfin hollow]

what is B3

[cobalt rapids]

event stage

[elfin hollow]

alright im doing events now since they are like level 25 per stage i might actually complete them

[cobalt rapids]

push to B3 and try ur best to farm traf copy and the lion gun altho idk how feasible that is in just a few days

[elfin hollow]

i geared them up too i just cant get retro material because 3 daily limit

[elfin hollow]

im at 45 pity or something i just hope i can get her because she is waifu

[cobalt rapids]

yea good luck

[gleaming storm]

Can someone help me understand why lion is so gud cuz like i feel like NJ is better but I know that's not true

[cobalt rapids]

she deals much more dmg and has better fleet buffs

why she deals more dmg ? well thats a combination of stats and skills and barrages

[vast sparrow]

Is the 76 good on Trafalgar

[cobalt rapids]

good on every1

[fossil hull]

i'm near pity on standard banner who should i pick vanguard or kron they're the only ones i dont have yet

[cobalt rapids]

wait u meant main gun, ye that is good

[vast sparrow]

Goon on ever- wait what

[cobalt rapids]

i thought u meant aa

[cobalt rapids]

vanguard

[vast sparrow]

I should've called it Peashooter but eh

[sharp socket]

single 76 is the blue gun, twin 76 is UR AA, iirc peashooter is single 138.6

[gleaming storm]

Does lion have any out of fleet barrage?

[strong tartan]

yes she has a crossfleet

[sharp socket]

i just call the single 76 and single 113 the fast dd gun

[cobalt rapids]

all gacha URs do yea

[vast sparrow]

Now...the Single 76 or the Gold Single 113

[gleaming storm]

So if I get the chance evo lion before NJ

[sharp socket]

if you want a small damage increase and have alot of resources to spend then single 113

its like a 2% increase on z52's personal damage

[gleaming storm]

Is Azuma worth PR targeting for

Or should I go for someone else for fleet tech

[forest palm]

Azuma has lost a lot of value

[topaz smelt]

generally pr4 is the rec and fdg

[sharp socket]

azuma's value is for protocore

[hollow gust]

NJ is like the bottom half in damage for UR BBs these days

[topaz smelt]

just wait for her aug

[gleaming storm]

Then why is she always mvp??????

[cobalt rapids]

for build you usually do a pr1 ship -> anchorage -> fdg rush -> aegir - > coinable ships/ships from ur focused season
for focus pick what applies to u

[topaz smelt]

cuz your teams weak

[stark quiver]

Excuse all your other ships are shite

[hollow gust]

Cause endscreen damage means jackshit

Especially in campaign

[topaz smelt]

newbs really want avp, prob more than any other ship in that list

[cobalt rapids]

why

[wind oxide]

She's hot

[cobalt rapids]

naruhodo

[topaz smelt]

how else are they gonna build opsi fleets

[gleaming storm]

Why fdg isn't she out classed?

[cobalt rapids]

i mean newbies dont have rainbow bb docks, but if u do then u can skip on fdg

[topaz smelt]

shes a good mobber and unlocks agir

[gleaming storm]

I see

[cobalt rapids]

enty ark sara pretty much

[topaz smelt]

why not just do nano, avp haku

[gleaming storm]

So is azuma worth getting?

[cobalt rapids]

and tank with portland and ?

[topaz smelt]

here a fully accessible cv comp that can easily clear opsi without much

anch/ agir?

[gleaming storm]

Im so lost so should I focus on iorn blood?

[cobalt rapids]

i thought u mean avp over ancho and aegir
also nano/haku arent that accessible

[sharp socket]

haku nano avp is the most accessible setup for CV fleet that also happens to be good

[topaz smelt]

nano is free, haku is a bit more time investment

[cobalt rapids]

haku will take months

[cobalt rapids]

nano is opportunity cost

[sharp socket]

before getting haku subbing in enty or something might be fine

[topaz smelt]

vs nj?

[gleaming storm]

For pr research is there a faction i should focus on getting fleet tech higher?

[cobalt rapids]

vs other URs new/reruns

[wind hazel]

about the same for EU RN IB IJN, you'll diverge a little more later on

[topaz smelt]

ye but completed fleet vs random ur components

[sharp socket]

if the player is good they can cook something with assorted URs

[woven star]

Not really. Just focus on best useful ships. Begin from Anchorage, FdG, AvP, Haku

[topaz smelt]

its gonna be heres something thats guaranteed to work vs random fotm

ye i dont see
like take this event for example
you have lion, what do you pair her with for a competent fleet

[cobalt rapids]

i mean yes but fotm may have better coverage on content and work better
like lion for example

[sharp socket]

whats fotm

[topaz smelt]

whats the progression path that will make investing in lion worth more than the alternatives

[cobalt rapids]

flavor of the month

[sharp socket]

the heck is that

[cobalt rapids]

pair her with dork and helena and some other high end gold bb or fdg and u have alot of value

[topaz smelt]

and you have 1 half assed fleet, whats the other since newbs arent clearing harby with 1 fleet

[cobalt rapids]

enty sara and something

[wind oxide]

Who's dork?

[tame jungle]

duke of york

[wind hazel]

me

[tame jungle]

hey

[wind oxide]

yea right

[topaz smelt]

idk if that even clears harby

[sharp socket]

i wouldnt clear harby in under 8 months from starting out but some people are built different i suppose

[cobalt rapids]

is the timeline 8 months because by then u have probably passed enough events to have a full rainbow bb fleet

[topaz smelt]

when you have the ijn squad fully kitted, you can prob handle it with a 2nd half assed fleet

[woven star]

@gleaming storm https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[sharp socket]

yes and haku nano avp aswell

i wouldnt consider manual shenanigans or reset spam when deciding to clear harby on an underbuilt set of fleets

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 funny enough but Enterprise is no longer a 100% accessible ship now

[topaz smelt]

my timelines 4 months

[cobalt rapids]

my first harbi kill was with musashi dork (some gold bb idr )
enty haku d25 and avp
so yes half assed fleets can kill harbi

[woven star]

Shinano instead

[wind hazel]

yes shinahakuavp is accessible 100% lol

[woven star]

Life becomes bettar

[wind hazel]

more like become more expensive

[tame jungle]

azur lane imitates life

[wind hazel]

getting the ijn tech alone for haku isn't that easy

[sharp socket]

i used very little of enty personally when grinding my way to harby clear because URs kept dropping out of the sky

[cobalt rapids]

and also harbiter kill rush isnt every players goal
i would be happy if players would at least finish their opsi icons and normal arbi

[topaz smelt]

what even is the goal

[sharp socket]

the players decide on their goals, but if someone in gph asks for a goal to work towards i say w14 and w15

[cobalt rapids]

well i cant answer that
but i do agree with harbiter rush because of recurrent rewards

[elfin hollow]

Is Atago any good?

[topaz smelt]

so what would you recommend as a progression path?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[wind oxide]

recurrent rewards?

[gleaming storm]

Whats a good vangaurd line fritz , unicorn, Lion, vangaurd of these options

[wary skiff]

What does flooding do

[stark quiver]

More damage

[cobalt rapids]

well depends what u mean
like in focus just list the benefits/appeal and downsides and leave it to the player
or make short timeline suggestions
like anchorage over avp make sense to me because generally useful
but its not like i said dont build avp i just put her in coinable category which is basically anytime after ancho

[cobalt rapids]

its a dot

[cobalt rapids]

are u asking a good vanguard for lion fritz unicorn ? then it depends what u have
but since u put unicorn there then check what is good for where ure mobbing

[cobalt rapids]

repeatable rewards basically e.g opsi resets each month but campaign is a one and done deal

[wind oxide]

Ohh

why rush tho? they got a whole month

[cobalt rapids]

rush as in newbie starting a new account to focus on getting to a point where they can kill harbi

[tame jungle]

rush as in get to a point where you can clear it, which could be 2 or 3 months extra harbiter rewards

[wind oxide]

Ahh

[topaz smelt]

like my recommended progression goes as follows:
get kms tech -> work on fdg -> unlocks agir and avp
focus pr4 to rush the ships and full cv gear sets
cv comp becomes shinano, avp, ark/haku, anch, helena/ijn + 1 (likely kaza)
agir becomes tank for bb/next fleet
grab 2-3 champyguns + tenrai from protocore
start working on 2nd boss fleet built around other urs/events that come out

[undone saffron]

Will this work? Campaign team?

[wind hazel]

no

[elfin hollow]

just to confirm by brs you mean her right

[tame jungle]

no

[wind hazel]

BRS=black rock shooter

[paper walrus]

honestly getting shinano instead of enty feels like a big downgrade because it takes forever to mlb her

[topaz smelt]

it takes a month now

[paper walrus]

how

[wind hazel]

[B]elo[r]u[s]siya

[stark quiver]

My recommendation for newbs is to ask someone else other than me

[elfin hollow]

this is what i thought

[wind hazel]

you thought wrong

[cobalt rapids]

i dont recommend 3 champys anymore because 2 champy + 1 flan gives you faster access (coz diff seasons bps) to 20s bb guns and finer timing tuning

[elfin hollow]

im happy that i double checked

[wind hazel]

happy for you too

[topaz smelt]

you get 1 bulin right away, + 1 -1.5 depending on how much time you have from cores, 1 from cruise pass, the next one comes pretty much 1st week of the next month

why do you want the finer timing for arbys?

[cobalt rapids]

for long term because u will eventually +13 those guns

and id rather have 2 champy + 1 flangun at +13 than 3 champy

[paper walrus]

yeah but werent you not supposed to spend bulins for her

[topaz smelt]

id prob stop at 2 +13 champys cuz 3x bbs are only temp

[cobalt rapids]

probably

[topaz smelt]

you would only care this much about timing for metas

and thats prob like a 2 year timeline for newbs cuz tech

[cobalt rapids]

thats the endgame goal

[topaz smelt]

i dont really care for the end game goal since thats gonna differ for everyone, i just want to set them up so they can figure that part on their own

[topaz smelt]

what else are you gonna spend bulins on? no one aint waiting a year to mlb a ur that can be useful immediately

[cobalt rapids]

just make an informed decision before investing into nano
since shes on perma pity it also means u can mlb her overtime with dupes
she might be a better investment than what is currently available and you have or she might not be

[eternal basalt]

Do you have BisII? Cause if not, that is what you would spend your bullin on

[topaz smelt]

the issue with that idea is youll mlb a ship once every like 8 months

[cobalt rapids]

why

[topaz smelt]

how long does it take to pity 5 copies

[wind hazel]

8 months is exaggeration lol

current bulin resource can give much more leeway

[eternal basalt]

Every 3 months we get a new one, in some cases 2

[cobalt rapids]

u have 4 bulins
you look at your dock and you ask maybe around to see if theres any UR reruns or new UR events nearby
and then u make ur decision

[topaz smelt]

were at like what? 8 urs a year pace?

[vale spindle]

6 new ones / yr

[topaz smelt]

including reruns

[cobalt rapids]

• shop

[vale spindle]

yea def 8 then lol

[orchid scarab]

is prince of wales good?

[cobalt rapids]

so like 10

[topaz smelt]

do we have enough bulins per year for that?

[orchid scarab]

i jst got her

[cobalt rapids]

we have 5 bulins / 2months + milestones

[topaz smelt]

32 + 8? or was it 24 + 8?

[vale spindle]

we get 30 bulins / year from permanent sources + event milestone reward (4/year + reruns) + onetime stuff (1.5 bulins)

[orchid scarab]

shes not? aw men, ill just put her to my benched wifus collection then

[cobalt rapids]

30 includes cruise pass

[topaz smelt]

so were still at a deficit for reruns?

[vale spindle]

im dum

[topaz smelt]

or is that 30 + 4 + 1.5?

[eternal basalt]

30 + 8

[vale spindle]

you get 1 per ur event and 1 per ur rerun but idk how many ur reruns we get in a year

[cobalt rapids]

if u count reruns and shop urs and u substract -1 from lb cost for gacha UR coz of milestone and for shop urs coz of shop dupe then we have just about right to mlb every new gacha and rerun

[topaz smelt]

so we have 6 extras per year

[whole crypt]

we need 24 bulins for new ur each year and 16 moving up to 24 for reruns

[vale spindle]

6 new ur + 4 rerun ur = 40 ur bulins so we are at a deficit of 2

[cobalt rapids]

shop dupe

[vale spindle]

and yea as mentioned above we will start to get 2 ur ship events rerunning soon tm

[paper walrus]

cooked

[topaz smelt]

idk why i thought 2 reruns

[whole crypt]

absolute max when we reach 6+6 URs each year you'll need 48 bulins vs 38 bulins income

[topaz smelt]

we all know theyre gonna add more new ur per year

[whole crypt]

assuming no dupes

[vale spindle]

wow thats wild
with the shop dupe you can break even (until we get 2 ur ship reruns)

[paper walrus]

this doesnt affect most of you because you dont have to pull on the reruns

[wind hazel]

of course, it's in the name

[whole crypt]

we don't though, but then they can also add more bulins too

[paper walrus]

meanwhile me

[tame jungle]

ok

[vale spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1242175717341659318.webp?size=24&animated=true

[topaz smelt]

but anyways, going back to the original thought, mlb off dupes is gonna take forever

[whole crypt]

I'm just doing the math for all URs including rerun

[topaz smelt]

maybe in like 3 years the free dd urs will be added to light pool

[cobalt rapids]

well not completely mlb but it can help cut the cost
either way some sacrifice will need to be done if u wanna mlb nano
which is probably skipp on some weaker new UR or just putting her in the bench

[wary skiff]

are bidders better than g7e acoustic? do i need a snorkel for every sub to use g7e?

[cobalt rapids]

use bidders

[eternal basalt]

170k core left after mlb Lion and Traf. Nothing to spend it on

[whole crypt]

just make an informed decision when spending, you'll catch up eventually and newer ships will often take priority

[cobalt rapids]

buy UR bulins and retire them for coins

[topaz smelt]

damn im only at 110k, you must hit dupes often

[strong tartan]

retrofit 20 warspites

[cobalt rapids]

cant even do that coz rf item is capped to 1

and it counts ur rf ship in dock

[strong tartan]

no fun

[topaz smelt]

but ye, im expecting that theres no broken ass ur that can outperform the cv comp until the meta shifts

[eternal basalt]

Elite are the true UR after all

[topaz smelt]

and the fact that theres no good accessible ur level bbs

[whole crypt]

just add 2 more Lion alts

[cobalt rapids]

how does lion avp haku tank helena traf compare to nano avp haku tank helena kazagumo

[eternal basalt]

Warspite doesn't take UR Bulin

[strong tartan]

her retro item is in the proto shop but it's capped

[topaz smelt]

vs light lion should win
idk about med, needs to test but i think im leaning towards cvs

[eternal basalt]

Neither do the DR's coming July

[whole crypt]

all UR retrofits are capped

[whole crypt]

heavy it's still IJN, med I think we're on the cusp of soynaklion vs soynakfritz

[topaz smelt]

issue with haku is shes kinda mid without nano

[iron meteor]

is kawakaze better in mob or in boss

[cobalt rapids]

newplayer with soynakfritz

[topaz smelt]

depends on 3 or 4 strike

[cobalt rapids]

generic dmg dealer, either

[topaz smelt]

3 strike fritz should win out

[eternal basalt]

Regular or META?

[iron meteor]

regular

[whole crypt]

not talking about new players, just current numbers

[cobalt rapids]

but we were

[topaz smelt]

tbh with lion i tihnk the recc might still be avp for lion avp vanny, tank (agir)traf helena

[whole crypt]

if for new players it's easier to Lion + 2URBB anyway

[topaz smelt]

ye but issue is no soy or bz atm

lack of slow kinda makes it weak

[whole crypt]

consider the time it'll take to finish AvP and Hakuryuu plus planes to gear

[topaz smelt]

lion vanny traf is a strong core

fuck haku if youre building around lion

planes is pretty easy actually

[main plaza]

I can't get past 3-1 I'm getting incredibly frustrated with this already

[topaz smelt]

you only need 2 of each, + rockets

[main plaza]

What am I supposed to do about the airplanes that go past me that I can't even hit

Or the ships that speed past me at Mach 5 the moment I even see them on screen

[cobalt rapids]

get unicorn and helena in guild shop
brs deadmaster uniconr- agir helena laffey
and just lvl up

[atomic abyss]

Overlevel

[sinful escarp]

focus on one fleet for now

[whole crypt]

that's still like at least 3 months between proto shop and lab

[unique pumice]

Do I still have next reset for the event?

[sinful escarp]

nope, only until this MT

[unique pumice]

[sinful escarp]

for the shops its still until next week, for the event itself this week

[topaz smelt]

i think its like a month of research and a month of opsi

well without the rockets, prob 2 months for rockets

[nocturne glade]

does sakura empire tech usually take the longest to get?

[atomic abyss]

No

[topaz smelt]

2 ju87s is pretty quick

[atomic abyss]

It depends on what event you start with really

[whole crypt]

you need 3 month for 50 prints unless you also do PR4

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty!

[boreal temple]

if you start on an ijn event it's the fastest

[topaz smelt]

my recc is still pr4 focus

[atomic abyss]

HMS is more painful than IJN usually

[topaz smelt]

the gear alone is prob better than the other pr seasons

[whole crypt]

in which case then you can cope with saiun and save lab for other shit

[topaz smelt]

the cv comp base is 2 ryuus, 2 saiuns, 2 ju87
this allows sync for any cv comp with avp/implac

[whole crypt]

Implacable not quite due for archive and it's another bulin spend

[topaz smelt]

for future notes

[boreal temple]

what backline do I run with lion? vg alsace?

[iron meteor]

for opsci i can just use my normal mob and boss fleets right? since i just started

[whole crypt]

if it's for future notes just wait for BisZwei it's like one event after Implacable

[topaz smelt]

i wouldnt call bz reliable for cvs

would pair great with lion tho

[cobalt rapids]

thats fine
or bz or soy or musashi or even fritz or depends on content

[wary skiff]

is this worth it?

[whole crypt]

yeh but now we're kind of all mashed up which ships with Lion

[topaz smelt]

ye, im just providing irrelevant examples

in a vacuum tho, idk what else i would rec

[boreal temple]

ah so she's pretty much used on all armor types? damn I should read her kit

[wary skiff]

im running her with kazan and nakhimov since no soyuz /chkalov yet lol

[wary skiff]

i kinda crutched on the guild shop characters for my ijn points

[topaz smelt]

you can pretty much force any ur to work against any armor type with gear
its whether theres better

[whole crypt]

yeh pretty much

and it's not the end of the world if you don't make oneshot for OS/showdown anyway

[nocturne glade]

interesting, guess ill do the same

[topaz smelt]

even i dont 1 shot harby anymore

[whole crypt]

I do but I don't usually bother until like mid-month and have adapts up

[topaz smelt]

my adapts usually end up like 120 by the end of the month

[whole crypt]

and if that month has some weird shit that blocks oneshotting without swapping shit the I throw second fleet in

I'm still usually 250s to 300s

[topaz smelt]

doing bare minimum puts you around like 150

[whole crypt]

yeh but I tend to do more than minimum

not seriously bothered by excess AP either, though it's usually just like around 300-500 at worst

[topaz smelt]

i was tracking c5 returns for a bit and ending up not caring enough for scraps

[nocturne glade]

how do I know if I'm ready for harbiter? I havent tried in 2 months cause I got destroyed last time

[whole crypt]

yeh it's not great it's why I'm not seriously bothered by excess AP much nowadays

[topaz smelt]

just try it? it doesnt cost anything for an attempt

[nocturne glade]

i guess

[whole crypt]

just try every month attempts are free and midway damage still has rewards

[topaz smelt]

ive had months where i didnt have any excess ap

[boreal temple]

just do arby, harby is just for extras which aren't even much

[topaz smelt]

it gives gold plates so that alone is worth the effort

[nocturne glade]

already doing arby, but I have to reenter 3 or 4 times to clear

[cobalt rapids]

25% of the total arbi harby goldplates

[nocturne glade]

I guess ill give this months a shot though

ty!

[cobalt rapids]

just open a thread if u need help

[topaz smelt]

level ships, upgrade gear, logically competent fleets

or just throw rainbows at it

[boreal temple]

[nocturne glade]

I did pull lion recently though so maybe she'll help. I heard shes pretty decent into light and I dont have soyuz or nakhi anyways

[topaz smelt]

non mlb ships arent gonna help

[nocturne glade]

mlbed already

[cobalt rapids]

shes more than decent on all armor types

[boreal temple]

your gear matters just as much as ships

[cobalt rapids]

raise her till end of month

[boreal temple]

even if you have good ships if you're not gearing properly for whatever content then it won't end well

[nocturne glade]

I see, ty!

[hallow mountain]

Is gun any good?

Look I know what it looks like but I don't have any other HE gun that's gold

And idk how to get Azuma's gun

[cobalt rapids]

very expensive in gearlab or with protocre or just bench azuma till fs5 and give her a non HE gun for much cheaper

she doesnt even care about he or ap anyway

its either her gun or nothing
and she rly wants a cb gun

[eternal basalt]

But... we've HAD Implacc event and BisII is up soon One is far future, other is doorstep future

[shell citrus]

Whats the best torps on plymouth

[atomic abyss]

gold quad magnetics torps

[atomic abyss]

not for azuma at least

[hollow gust]

The improved one is better but Plymouth is very low on the list for those

[atomic abyss]

CBs want CB gun

[main plaza]

Where is the guild shop

[atomic abyss]

Shop -> Guild

[eternal basalt]

Same place as all the other shops

[hallow mountain]

Damn

What else can I use

[atomic abyss]

a CB gun

if that's FS5 Azuma, just give her the million Agir guns you would have gotten from PR4

[hallow mountain]

Yeah which I don't

[hallow mountain]

Oh ok thanks

[atomic abyss]

supply

[shell citrus]

How do I fix this mogador

it feels like it just doesnt do damage

[atomic abyss]

uh

there are small optimisations possible but

that is about as good as it gets gun wise lol

[main plaza]

Who is better Unicorn or Helena

[atomic abyss]

you get both, refresh the guild shop after buying one

[boreal temple]

two different jobs

[atomic abyss]

like this would be the best but uh

it's a VERY small improvement

mogador is like, the best at light armour DPS in the game in terms of vanguards

[shell citrus]

Is it just like a small stat thing

tried to use her for the challenge its not working\

[atomic abyss]

Cos those are heavy armour bosses

[shell citrus]

Like how would I beat the challenge

[atomic abyss]

unzen lol

[atomic abyss]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/june

[cobalt rapids]

this challenge is easy to brutoforce

[shell citrus]

Thx

[teal ice]

does sovetskaya belorussiya good ship?

[cobalt rapids]

not rly

[atomic abyss]

nope

even kazan does better

[teal ice]

just asking because i just got her

[atomic abyss]

black rock shooter would be better

[teal ice]

the wood ship?

[atomic abyss]

the collab ship from the ongoing collab

[teal ice]

oh okay

[eternal basalt]

No tech though...

[teal ice]

btw i got lion

[cobalt rapids]

bench her till shes limit break 2

[teal ice]

doesnt have ur bulin

[shell citrus]

who can I replace this with

[cobalt rapids]

what content

[atomic abyss]

from the CM guide

[cobalt rapids]

ah just ply or something

[shell citrus]

ply is the top one

[atomic abyss]

trafalgar
but she cant tank

[cobalt rapids]

put ply there and traf offlag

[shell citrus]

What if I dont have traf ready lol

[atomic abyss]

just use a tank like agir or eld retro

[shell citrus]

kk

[cobalt rapids]

put aegir or guam then

[stark quiver]

Sup gph

[shell citrus]

So like this

[cobalt rapids]

looks fine

[shell citrus]

kk thx guys

[hollow gust]

Lion gaming was so busted , I pulled a sub 3:30

[whole crypt]

CM?

[stark quiver]

Hi send fleet plz
W/ gear

[hollow gust]

Lemme do a extra run just incase

[cobalt rapids]

almost as fast as suchis 1:45 clear time without lion

[hollow gust]

Well mine was really unoptimized

I was using my random gear

Although lemme check something out

[boreal temple]

it's been a while since w15 release is it comfy to clear with no subs now?

it's been 3 years and I still haven't built my subs

[hollow gust]

Well if you are in safe just fully auto it

[boreal temple]

I meant it as first clearing

[atomic abyss]

It "depends"

Subs mean you have much more leeway

Without them it means you have less leeway in terms of ships (which probably isn't an issue for you) but also gear

The thing is
In those 3 years
Did you build up your gear

[boreal temple]

yesnt

I have been slacking for the recent gear but I do have my fair share of decent gear

[main plaza]

How many days are left for the Azur Lane collab

[boreal temple]

it just started

[main plaza]

With BRS I mean

[wind oxide]

ends on 18th i think

[main plaza]

Ok thank you for some reason it was not showing me the run date on my screen

[stark quiver]

People have cleared w15 without subs since day 1

[boreal temple]

I know, but not everyone has the gear/ships that they used day 1, that's exactly why I was asking if the recent additions changed how difficult it is compared to day 1

[stark quiver]

Yes
Z52,fritz,guam and laffey2, Eldridge, lion, raff to name a few
As well as the new twin 76 aa

[verbal torrent]

how do i get iron blood tech points

[boreal temple]

chessboard

[cobalt rapids]

there have been quite a few powercreeps since w15 release
like eldr retro laffii guam z52
fritz and nahki for support
new gear like new rainbow aa and new fighters in gearlab
but nothing crept the day 1 sushi

[stark quiver]

Oh yea also de zeven provinci

[cobalt rapids]

sandy also got an augment now so she has powercrept herself

[atomic abyss]

at the end of the day

[stark quiver]

Did she power creep herself or did the augment power creep her

[atomic abyss]

new options are only good if you actually have them ready

[stark quiver]

I hope you got de zeven

[verbal torrent]

chessboard?

[cobalt rapids]

d7p still below the ur options if have them all for w15

[verbal torrent]

explain pls @boreal temple

[cobalt rapids]

divergent chessboard in war archive

[verbal torrent]

okay thanks

[boreal temple]

my worries are not having z52 and the gear but other than that I'm fairly confident with my dock albeit this is me still procrastinating clearing it again like my w14 clears

[stark quiver]

You’ll be fine without 52
I didn’t have her either when I did it

[hollow gust]

Meh Musashi isn't my first pick anymore

[winter quartz]

do we have an another reset with the event or should we wrap it up today? c:

[stark quiver]

And no Aquila

[cobalt rapids]

tomato comes back
asks about w15
leaves

[boreal temple]

exactly

[cobalt rapids]

its still mine

[hollow gust]

Lion and Raffey just performs better

[boreal temple]

until I make a w15 clearing thread it won't happen

[stark quiver]

Musashi is hot af
I’ll pick her over any other UR

[cobalt rapids]

big cap

the lion vs musashi experience

[stark quiver]

I smell an argument brewing up

[atomic abyss]

Well

[cobalt rapids]

this is a selective imagery but overall i did multiple runs and lion is not better or similar to musashi

[atomic abyss]

If the backline pressure for w15 wasn't so great

Lion would be better

Lion assumes you overwhelm enemies fast enough to take less plane damage

In a way, offence is the best defence

[slow fox]

-# what

[atomic abyss]

But I'm not sure how viable that is for most people

[cobalt rapids]

in a way musashi and lion clear the waves almost the same

[wind oxide]

Prob because of musashi's damage redirect skill? Lion doesnt have one that ensures fleet survivability?

[cobalt rapids]

musashi def skill is indeed a big part of her being the goat of w15

[atomic abyss]

It depends on what you're arguing for

I think both arguments have merit

[wind oxide]

yea

[hollow gust]

Lion kills faster for boss fleet ,
for Mobbing even suchi had recommendations for mob Raffey

[cobalt rapids]

suchi recommends raffey on the same lvl as musashi ive never heard him say raffy > musashi

[wind oxide]

Musa is just a better tank

[atomic abyss]

Raffy as an alternative for those who don't have Sushi lol

[cobalt rapids]

also lion is A in w15 in endgame tl and musashi is S

[whole crypt]

North Carolina cope trust

[cobalt rapids]

more cope than trust

[stark quiver]

Just warkai it

[hollow gust]

My 15-4 is safe now , but in 15-3 lion plows through the two boss fleets easier

[cobalt rapids]

i dont test w15 bossing coz thats the easy part

[atomic abyss]

^

Framing is lovely

[boreal temple]

how many ur aa would be ideal for w15

[whole crypt]

Just use good fleets™️

[stark quiver]

I like using 5 but that’s just me

[cobalt rapids]

they literally heal on boss

[boreal temple]

it's always the gear that cucks me man

[stark quiver]

Same

[cobalt rapids]

as many as u got
but yk subs can be the value of 6 rainbow aa guns

just raise ur damn subs

[whole crypt]

mix and match Shimanto, Sandy, Laffey II, Eldridge retrofit, Z52, Trafalgar and Guam

yes I know Shimanto is not rainbow

[boreal temple]

building more rainbow aa > raising subs

[whole crypt]

why not both

[atomic abyss]

Subs are easier to raise than you think lol

Admittedly you already missed 2 grand opportunities to raise subs earlier this year

[stark quiver]

Yea xp books are real

[boreal temple]

they're raised.

[whole crypt]

then just use them?

[cobalt rapids]

just secretary 3 subs to 90 aff
then do just a tiny bit of grinding to 100 and then dorm or book em to 120 its that easy

[atomic abyss]

Sub gearing is easy if you have been doing your sub weeklies

[boreal temple]

I just don't like using them since I always forget

[whole crypt]

auto summon is a thing

[cobalt rapids]

dont auto summon in w15 clear

[stark quiver]

Yea just don’t use them then

[whole crypt]

yeh but if your problem is forgetting them then whatever

[wary skiff]

is it better if u-101 is on the other side or topside?

[cobalt rapids]

yea but they are gonna die if u auto summon

[stark quiver]

U96 flags

[boreal temple]

I only have outdated wolfpack

[wary skiff]

81 doesnt have a magnetic barage or whatever from wwhat i read

[whole crypt]

81 mid probably better

[cobalt rapids]

its more than good enough

[wary skiff]

ya u96 is flag currently

[tacit jasper]

i have a 6th copy of Ulrich..... what do? (my first one as already maxed yrs ago)

[whole crypt]

96 flag is an old wives' tale

[wary skiff]

man this game really sucks finding relevant information huh

[verbal torrent]

how do i grind for pr6 ships

[whole crypt]

but your 81 isn't raised yet anyway

[boreal temple]

subs are there then but my gear still bricked

[whole crypt]

same as every other series

[wary skiff]

ya but i want something to work towards, it doesnt take long to raaise em

[verbal torrent]

well

how exactly? is what im asking

[whole crypt]

pick ship you want to dev, make fleet with ships that give xp, go ham

[verbal torrent]

how about tech points

[whole crypt]

so what you're actually saying is you need to find tech to unlock the ships

[verbal torrent]

yes

im trying to unlock felix schultz in particular

[whole crypt]

war archive divergent chessboard best place to farm KMS ship drops for tech

[verbal torrent]

okay thanks

[stark quiver]

Warspite getting aug

[cobalt rapids]

crazy

[whole crypt]

以下角色新增专属特殊兵装：圣路易斯-「“Lucky Lou”」、厌战-「老女士的王家之剑」、勇敢-「坚毅而温柔」、猋-「岩清水仙龙真言锋」、佩特菈·斯坦贝瑟-「轻冕针近战仪式舰装LS」；

[cobalt rapids]

mhm yes

[tame jungle]

New exclusive special weapons for the following characters: St. Louis - "Lucky Lou", War-weary - "Old Lady's Royal Sword", Brave - "Solid and Gentle", Biao - "Iwasui Fairy Dragon True Words Edge", Petra Steinbesser - "Light Crown Needle Close Combat Ritual Ship Suit LS";

[whole crypt]

Lou corgi gallant who and who?

wait that's hardy?

[cobalt rapids]

would gallant rly receive the aug while she just released lol

[whole crypt]

who knows

[cobalt rapids]

i know

[dreamy blade]

unique augs for purple/blue rarity ships are never good right lol

[hollow gust]

Poor monarch

[cobalt rapids]

they are bullying poor monarch atp

[whole crypt]

well I only checked CN notes and names are

[dusty terrace]

rip pvp

[agile patrol]

hello. Azur Lane Official discordia.
how good of a waifu is Lion?

i say this, with one promise ring in my depot. Do I do it 🥺 👉 👈 ✨

[tame jungle]

oath whoever you like

[whole crypt]

watch corgi's aug get shafted

[agile patrol]

[slow fox]

-# CHOUKAI AUGMENT

[cobalt rapids]

sometimes they get big boosts but the ships are so bad that it doesnt change anything relative to the others

i think hai augment increased the viability for ch15 for cn wall but thats about it that i remember for purple aug gains

[woven star]

Peter Strasser only one sr from that list?

[cobalt rapids]

choukai

and ofc warspite is a gold bb

[tame jungle]

warspite too

[woven star]

oh 12-4 drop ship. Interesting what they add to Strasser. Can be another AvP joking

[dreamy blade]

choukai aug will make her w15 viable

[woven star]

oh, btw last ship from Takao class get her augment

[molten zinc]

sh*t I retire my corgi awhile ago

[faint cloud]

long island

[elfin hollow]

Should I retrofit Chang Chun and and Tai Yuan to to main fleet mode?

[inner delta]

frontline is better

but it's like you can change it back anyway so go experiment

[elfin hollow]

Ohhhh

[honest sequoia]

Did someone say warsprite got an augment

[cobalt rapids]

she will

[elfin hollow]

I thought it was permanent

[honest sequoia]

Where

finally warspite is brought back to life

[cobalt rapids]

announced in the patch notes

[sinful escarp]

warspite will be the first UR with a unique augment right?

ahh, sandy. forgot about her

[cobalt rapids]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bz4K8Gjs3HF35IwzZsIAAyME5DRxRnBeDBXMfArmQXA/edit?tab=t.0

[woven star]

So this will be the most expensive coin ship in the game?

[storm olive]

Sandy aug, also ""UR""

[honest sequoia]

What a day to be alive as a warspite main

[wind oxide]

Zwei rerun on 19th

meheheh

[ionic aurora]

Do meta ships contribute to pr ship xp requirement?

[eternal basalt]

New Jersey cannot be placed in the shared area "Beach", but can be placed in the shared area "Cafe".
FAILED PATCH

[boreal temple]

meta is its own faction iirc

[ionic aurora]

Rip thx

[eternal basalt]

They probably have her bunny skin poledancing in the cafe, but still...

[agile patrol]

Does this thing carry over banners/rerun banners/event banners? Or does it reset?

[fair lance]

reset

[eternal basalt]

It's lost

[agile patrol]

so sad ...

[boreal temple]

dw you get plenty of cubes to reach pity before next UR anyway

[eternal basalt]

You get 44 tickets

[boreal temple]

I forgot reruns, I was only counting new URs

[eternal basalt]

Plenty of time for the next new one, that's in September (or next month if you count DR's)

[versed forum]

I replaced amagi ryusei for faster tb, is my fleet sync good? and is it possible to put 2 la-9 in my med fleet

Soyuz rerun when?

[eternal basalt]

March 2026

[sinful escarp]

random thought but now that there is no mission to retro portland do we still recommend her to newbies? or is there a someone else (not counting little agir)

[eternal basalt]

She's still good, but yes, little agir better (but gone after tommorrow)

[versed forum]

almost got all ur gear i needed only 1 each of 100kai and 457 left, should i make spearfish?

is it worth it?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[cobalt rapids]

give it to nahkimov over skyraider and adjust ur syncs

[whole crypt]

if you have to ask whether the spearfish is worth making don't make it

[mild cove]

Is cleopatra strong?

Nooooooooooooo

[pastel pendant]

this bih good?

[boreal temple]

she's past her prime

[pastel pendant]

zamnn…

is trafalgar good?

[mild cove]

Would it be a waste to build her or is she half decent atleast?

[whole crypt]

if you're pulling perm heavy/special stop

[pastel pendant]

nah I need hood

[whole crypt]

you don't

[pastel pendant]

I wanted hood it gave me ulrich

[whole crypt]

and even if you want hood you just wait for medal shop

[mild cove]

You dont?

[pastel pendant]

no

[late flame]

in before oh noes no cubes for bismarck zwei rerun

[pastel pendant]

boring I have bismarck already why get 2

[whole crypt]

you basically never pull perm heavy/special, especially not just for one specific ship

[boreal temple]

she's built for tech but that's for end game players

[sinful escarp]

its the rainbow bismark, not the gold one...

[whole crypt]

Bismarck isn't half the ship BisZwei is

[pastel pendant]

woaw

I had guam but guam was boring

[boreal temple]

[pastel pendant]

and Laffey 2 also expensive

[whole crypt]

they're all expensive

[eternal basalt]

What's with all the hot takes

[whole crypt]

you just keep playing until they're not

[plain saffron]

warspite good again for 5th time?

[pastel pendant]

I run prinz eugen with 2 admiral hippers

[boreal temple]

[pastel pendant]

(3 hippers)

[boreal temple]

actually insane

[whole crypt]

which does jack shit

[mild cove]

Thats rather disappointing

[stark quiver]

This is peak azulene, waifu above all

[mild cove]

But ima buy her skin anyway

[pastel pendant]

im on that sigma grind

[eternal basalt]

But for rlz this time (we hope)

[boreal temple]

get used to it, safe to say that 60% of the ships are just built for stat padding

[pastel pendant]

I spent my gems at the lecture hall

[stark quiver]

Unfortunate

[pastel pendant]

like a boss

[whole crypt]

you mean tactical class

[pastel pendant]

yea whatever its called

[mild cove]

Best decision ever

[pastel pendant]

I refitted my Z23 cuz funny

warspite next

[whole crypt]

UvH has a weird kit with no currently working niche

[cobalt rapids]

are you here for advice or ?

[pastel pendant]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

not gonna backseat ur playstyle but its not rly a place to blog bad things to do either so newbies follow suit

[whole crypt]

look you're free to do what you want but unless you're actually after advice #al-general is that way

[pastel pendant]

should I keep grinding 3-4 on hard or 7-2 on normal

[whole crypt]

neither

[boreal temple]

seems like it's just ragebait doesn't even look like a newbie to begin with

[pastel pendant]

I’m only 55 lvl

[cobalt rapids]

did u finish grinding event ?
push the highest hardmode chapter u can and the stage depends what retro prints u need

[pastel pendant]

I didn’t

[cobalt rapids]

then farm event

[pastel pendant]

okay

[versed forum]

here is the improvement, i really don't have confidence in syncing fleets

[cobalt rapids]

make the 2 cvs within 0.2s of the freezer with the freezer in the middle ( 2nd launch )

[cobalt rapids]

like this for med
is fine for 3-4 strikes

[hallow mountain]

I just realized I crafted enough to make this one. Is it any good?

[cobalt rapids]

it is very niche

basically dont use if udk what ure doing with it

[pastel pendant]

he is the best ammunition for the big guns right?

[boreal temple]

ren are the cvs still dominant for most content or with the addition of the newer bbs can they compete now?

[honest sequoia]

good vs light
bad against heavy

[pastel pendant]

What is best ammo then?

[honest sequoia]

depend on your scenario

[boreal temple]

it simply depends on what armor type you're fighting

[pastel pendant]

good lord I have to switch gear?

[honest sequoia]

if ur facing light then HE
if ur facing heavy / medium then AP

[pastel pendant]

normal is bad then

[boreal temple]

get used to it that's pretty much 60% of the gameplay

[cobalt rapids]

lion might turn meta for more bbs in hybrid fleets but full cvs havent been a thing since kear yorkii and soynak exist except on heavy

[pastel pendant]

arghh

[boreal temple]

damn my simpleton braincells will die if we get hybrid fleets, I'm not even done with my nakh yet

[hallow mountain]

which of these is the best one for Azuma?

i wanna focus on one first so that i can actually use her for something

[cobalt rapids]

pre fs5 the bottom one
post fs5 depends on armor but bottom one for light bossing and top one for anything else

[hallow mountain]

aight thanks

[fiery swan]

I've cleared everything of note from the shop and can buy the second Trafalgar plus change, do I do it and MLB her with my 3 urin

[stark quiver]

Always buy the UR dupe

[rapid summit]

How to get medal of honour for requisition?

[ivory pawn]

Retire rare or higher ship dupes.

[boreal temple]

PLS NEVER DO REQUISITION

for the love of god don't waste your medals on that scam

[fiery swan]

What gun does Trafalgar use

[boreal temple]

ain't it the shima gun

[fiery swan]

Blue pewpew?

[boreal temple]

iirc yea

either that or the better version of that

[wind oxide]

either peashooter or 113

[fiery swan]

Should I MLB her already given I have Lion too or just wait for next UR

[rapid summit]

Got it

I don’t even know what requisition means😭

[boreal temple]

show your URs if you have a ton of rainbows it doesn't hurt to wait and stockpile burins

[forest palm]

Warspite is getting a UE

[fiery swan]

I have every other UR except for Unzen and the only non MLB ones are yorkii and vanny

[stable badger]

do meta crystals give anything if i already max limit broke Glorious Meta?

[boreal temple]

just imagine warspite powercreeping lion, doggo > king of the jungle

[plain saffron]

meta fragment for meta shop

[boreal temple]

well then it's up to you if you want to save or just mlb, it doesn't change anything in that point of progression

[forest palm]

so a week of down time then BZ rerun

[wind oxide]

Not happening

[fiery swan]

Then I shall raise Trafalgar because she's hot

[ivory pawn]

Monarch too?

[stark quiver]

Truly an AL moment

[forest palm]

Warspite, St Louis, Chokai, Strasser, and Hardy

[carmine heath]

choukai aug after scrapping lvl 120 choukai...

[forest palm]

BZ rerun is probably on the 19th

[rapid summit]

Where is weekly shop to spend points?

[cobalt rapids]

theres no weekly shop
pts are used for the weekly mission with the pts milestone

[ocean trout]

so i nearly am done with the shop and i did everything for my first real run . except these which i will do slowly
besides that, do i just go back to farm zone 5?

[undone plover]

U have 20k vouchers after doing opsi once ?

[ocean trout]

i never did it, so it just stacked up u could probably look my name up search bar and see it. now i have the first time with the updated shop etc

[undone plover]

Ah I see
So for this month u cleared every icon?

[ocean trout]

yup , all icons, all zones, arbiter normal hard, all dailies

[undone plover]

Then save enough AP for the upcoming strongholds
200 every monday
Save like 300 AP for random hidden/abyssal coords u might get
And u can dump the rest

[ivory pawn]

Can do classifieds whenever you need UR prints, but yeah just c5 and chill.

[ocean trout]

one thing i realized how i barely got any UR drops despite me doing so much :/
im talking the gear specific

[undone plover]

Does your mob fleet have 2 high level gold cats?

[ocean trout]

dunno,why?

[undone plover]

U get those UR prints from cats and abyssals
And u get 4 selectors from shop and normal arbiter

[ocean trout]

can i get it with these?

[undone plover]

Yes
Any 2 gold cats
Level 25+ I believe

Higher could be better but not sure

[hushed sorrel]

they must be golden?

[jaunty vault]

higher rarity is higher chance

[ocean trout]

my fleet 3 has 2 gold :/

[undone plover]

Better if golden I believe
This is the common consensus
I dont think anyone knows 100% for sure the probability numbers

[jaunty vault]

higher level is higher chance

[forest palm]

all we know is higher rarity, and higher level

[hushed sorrel]

i should check if mine are sr. thanks

[jaunty vault]

game says this

[ocean trout]

so i guess i coincidentally did it right

[undone plover]

Then it is just rng
If u are diligent with opsi can expect a few every month combined from cats and abyssals (like 3-5 anecdotally)
Also this month is not over u might still get them

[deft kettle]

is theseus aight?

[jaunty vault]

well even with maxed out cats the chances are abysmal

[ocean trout]

like its really sad

[undone plover]

U can get 1 selector from each of these as well
U have a lot of vouchers so just do them

[ocean trout]

LOL didnt know these are selector thanks

[deft kettle]

boys is theseus aight?

[undone plover]

Honestly the income is not bad
If u keep at it u will have enough in no time

If u want some ballpark numbers I can give you my average returns from the last few months when i am home

[ocean trout]

sure why not,thanks

[undone plover]

Altho I recommend u ask before crafting
Especially if u have neglected opsi in the past
Best way to get a lot of mats is not wasting them

[cobalt rapids]

shes decently good yes

[deft kettle]

👍🏻

[ocean trout]

i just did this for eldrige so im gonna copy the pvp google doc

[pine crag]

Who should I mlb first? Unzen, Guam, Lion or Trafalgar?

[honest sequoia]

Lion

[undone plover]

Fair enough
PvP investment is not usually the best for PvE
And the ppl competing at the top of pvp look for 1% benefits over each other
So some of the investments are not really recommended unless u want to do pvp hardcore
Also the meta tends to shake-up often

For example u might spend 360 gold plates for +13 wyvern for pvp (almost never recommended for pve)
Then next month CV is dead in pvp meta

So just be careful

[ocean trout]

yeah im aware, thank you tho. i usually kept all gear at 12 since never doing opsi came with less recources xD

[undone plover]

In the future I recommend u keep stuff at 10 if not sure
Gold plates are really scarce

[cobalt rapids]

2-3 months ( depending what u exchange in guildshop ) of diligent play ( mostly in opsi ) for 1 piece of +13 rainbow gear

[ocean trout]

u mean these or the other ones?

[cobalt rapids]

these

[eternal basalt]

So many books. Do you not train 24/7?

[undone plover]

We have a plus13 command if u want to know what is worth +13
Also never upgrade to +11 or +12
It is like limit breaking sth
When u upgrade past +10 u should commit all the way unless u did it by mistake

[honest sequoia]

i have around 600 actually and i do train 24/7

[ocean trout]

i do

[forest palm]

not really a lot of books tbh

blink and the red books are gone

[ocean trout]

i also have roughly the same amount of UR books

[cobalt rapids]

you have alot of books indeed

[ocean trout]

i do my dailies every day since i started playing this game.

[cobalt rapids]

stay tuned for next rapid skill campaign

[ocean trout]

what is it now 7th anni?

[undone plover]

It is 8th
But EN started 1 year late iirc

[ocean trout]

so we about to have ou 7th, so im playing everyday 6 and half years. without rly interacting a lot wih the gameplay

[daring flower]

is there like a good way to farm those UR bulins o3o

[eternal basalt]

[undone plover]

Play however u want
We try to give meta advice here but u don’t need to follow the meta 100% to the letter
And ppl disagree sometimes on what is best to do in a specific scenario

[stark quiver]

you upgrade all your botes?

[cobalt rapids]

play the game so u cap on spec core for 2/month
do ur cruise pass missions which is minmal effort for 1/2months
and play events so u can get the one from UR event milestones at 30k pts

[eternal basalt]

30k/15k in UR events, get 5k per month cores, get 3000 bonus cores in medal shop, do the cruise pass

[ocean trout]

will do ,most of you all are super helpful and i rly appreciate the help.
sometimes people rly get a bit toxic but i guess that the prize i have to pay x

[undone plover]

If someone is toxic just ignore em imo
We like to argue in gph but we mean well

[daring flower]

tysmmm i had this game for a while but i took a lil breaky lol and see theres a lot of UR ships now but i never knew which ones to LB cuz i have like 4 bulins 🥲

[wind hazel]

Mori used Toxic.
Slimane has been badly poisoned.

[ocean trout]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-brooklyn99-insulted-insult-slap-gif-16736769

[eternal basalt]

Lion, next week BisII is a good start

[cobalt rapids]

u can show ur URs

[daring flower]

show mine? seccc o3o

[cobalt rapids]

yea mlb lion

afterwards wait next week to check if u get any bismarckzwei dupes from the free pulls and mlb her aswell

[eternal basalt]

Wait for tickets next week to lmn BisII, you might ger free copies

[undone plover]

Was rerun confirmed?

~~Finally ~~

[daring flower]

oh bisII is bismarck zwei

[reef flume]

When is Zwei rerun

[eternal basalt]

Next week

[tame jungle]

is it a b2b or do we have a dead week

[reef flume]

Wait- are you fr?

[eternal basalt]

b2b?

[daring flower]

i looked up online somewhere reruns usually take 2 years is that true lmao

[tame jungle]

back to back

[cobalt rapids]

back to back

[reef flume]

Oh hell nah. If it is next week I am absolutely cooked

[tame jungle]

yea it's generally a bit over 2 years

[eternal basalt]

No, NJ in dorm this thurs... event over

[daring flower]

cries okie jw ❤️ tysm

[eternal basalt]

BisII was CN anni 2023

[random rain]

hello. should I use the blank PR1 blueprints to any PR1 ship, or do I just convert them into prototype cores instead since coin-up is a thing? thanks.

[novel solstice]

Coin the ships and get protocores. There's some useful equipment that you can buy with protocores.

And after a certain point in the game, coins become very very easy to acquire.

[random rain]

alright, thanks!

[neat karma]

Guys i just got belorussia Rossiya Trinidad Prince eugen trafalgar
My Fleet is
Hood volga unicorn Little agir Helena laffey (all max star and >lvl 90)
Should I change someone?

[eternal basalt]

Traf LMB?

[neat karma]

No 3 star

Base trafalgar

[eternal basalt]

Then no, no changes

[undone plover]

I dont think u need to change anything right now
If u get lion slot her in
Which map are u farming?

[neat karma]

Thanks

[neat karma]

Still chapter 5 lvl 41

[eternal basalt]

Farmed the event and got the 10k weapon?

[neat karma]

Just got in game 1 week ago

[undone plover]

Farm event
D1 map should be doable with what u have
U might need to put some stat stick on fleet 2 (just ships for stat requirement)
If not farm c2 map instead

[neat karma]

I got trafalgar instead

[undone plover]

Farm easy maps for 3x bonus as well

U have 2-3 days left
10k is easy to get

[neat karma]

So I farm b3?

[eternal basalt]

2 days, today and tommorrow

[neat karma]

Can reach 10000?

[quasi nymph]

is trafalgar better then laffey ?

[eternal basalt]

Try 30k if possible, free UR Bulin

[neat karma]

Max yes ig

[tame jungle]

depends on which laffey
laffey 1 definitely
laffey 2 probably not

[neat karma]

Ok

Thanks

[quasi nymph]

ur should only be compared with other urs

[tame jungle]

lol

[daring flower]

are events a practical way to farm specialized cores o3o sowwy for the silly questions

[tame jungle]

events are the only way to farm limited event currency and as a byproduct you get spec cores

[quasi nymph]

there are only a few exceptions like helena tbh

[atomic abyss]

In any case

Laffey2 and Traf can't be compared
Different roles

[tame jungle]

if you just use up your oil etc, you'll probably start capping out every month

[eternal basalt]

Not really, but free UR is 4k core right there soooo...

[daring flower]

Ohh u can use medals to buy cores too

[quasi nymph]

why not get as much bulins as possible ?

[tame jungle]

UR bulins much more important