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[viscid swift]

「菜涉的炼金工房」联动 即将复刻啦 「莱涉的炼金工房」真的是非常有趣的联动 除了复刻 我们同时还将开启与炼金工房今年的新作 「优米雅的炼金工房」的联动活动 这么快的麻 我想想 「优米雅的炼金工房」是今年3月才出 就可以在《碧蓝航线》里玩到联动内容了 不是你呀策划歌 相信这次联动内容也会诚意满满这里有个情况需要注意一下因为是同时开放复刻与全新活动 所以我们会对「菜苏的炼金工房」活动 做一定的轻量化处理 但是核心玩法保持不变 这样就可以在活动中同时体验 「炼金工房」两作的不同魅力啦可以的策划还是你想的周到 那就让我们一起期待一下 这次意料之外

[wicked obsidian]

F..... I didn't realize I needed gold 🪙 to Build....and I ran out in 40 summon.., a'm screwed ain't I??

[viscid swift]

that is the original Chinese

[ornate narwhal]

So should I finish these missions or start developing Neptune?

[eternal basalt]

But it already was 2 games at a time, Ryza 2 + 3

[viscid swift]

"Because both the remake and the new event are open at the same time"

bruh

it cannot get any more explicit than that

[atomic abyss]

finish

[atomic abyss]

back to farming

[wicked obsidian]

Am I gonna make it even...??
5 days left..

[atomic abyss]

8

[eternal basalt]

The collaboration with "Atelier Natsuki" is about to be reprinted. "Atelier Natsuki" is really a very interesting collaboration. In addition to the reprint, we will also launch a collaboration event with Atelier's new work this year, "Atelier Umia". It's so fast. Let me think about it, "Atelier Umia" was only released in March this year, and we can play the collaboration content in "Azur Lane". It's not you, the planning song. I believe that the content of this collaboration will also be full of sincerity. There is a situation that needs attention. Because the reprint and the new event are open at the same time, we will do some lightweight processing on the "Atelier Natsuki" event, but the core gameplay remains unchanged, so that you can experience the different charms of the two "Atelier" works in the event. Good planning and you are thoughtful. Let us look forward to it together. This time it's unexpected

Because the reprint and the new event are open at the same time,

[wicked obsidian]

Where do I even farm gold ??

[ornate narwhal]

After I finish the exp missions can I do Neptune? Bc all the other ones just hace to be submitted when I get the mats

[atomic abyss]

there is a 24h cooldown for switching

[atomic abyss]

the event for you

[ornate narwhal]

Yea but it’ll take me more than 24h to get all the retrofit mats and 20k gold

[atomic abyss]

what is your progress with nep even

[ornate narwhal]

None I haven’t done anything yet

[atomic abyss]

then just stick with sanrui till it's done

[wicked obsidian]

The lion 🦁 event ‽ I didn't even reach the SP stage

[atomic abyss]

so? sp is 1x a day only anyways
just farm D3?

[eternal basalt]

If he hasn't reached SP, he hasn't done D3

[wicked obsidian]

Hmmm...I only finished the normal mode ones

[eternal basalt]

That sounds MORE that there are 2 events

[atomic abyss]

then push higher?

[wicked obsidian]

Can't...I get destroyed

[tame jungle]

where are you at rn

[atomic abyss]

then just farm b3

[eternal basalt]

Can you do D1? That has oilcap

[wicked obsidian]

B3

[viscid swift]

when did they run 2 full on events at the same time

[eternal basalt]

Apparently they sound like they are planning that, and somwhat now with collab + UR

[wicked obsidian]

I can't even start the fight...they say I don't have some kind of fire power

[atomic abyss]

just wait for the event to run

[viscid swift]

you can't really call this upcoming collab an event so much as a couple of mini events

[atomic abyss]

can you do C2?

[wicked obsidian]

I can skip to C2 ... without completeing C1 ‽

[viscid swift]

anyway, I don't what any if, ands or buts on this because it's just blatant disinformation.

Yumina and the Ryza rerun will all be one affair, regardless of how it is laid out it will all take place at the same, there will not be 2 seperate events at different times.

[atomic abyss]

yes

just press the hard mode tab on a2

[wicked obsidian]

Just so U know my fleet is only lvl 90

[worldly pewter]

u can skip all of the hard stages and still can do d3

[eternal basalt]

I did A1-B3 and switched to D3, no other hard needed

[atomic abyss]

shdnt be an issue

[split gazelle]

gear is probably the bigger issue for a new player

[atomic abyss]

overlevelling works

[wicked obsidian]

Ow.. yeah...all my gear is +0

[eternal basalt]

D3's rather easy this event with all the help you get from events

[wicked obsidian]

Cause I don't know which gear ⚙️ is good or bad !!

[atomic abyss]

d3 is also level 100...

which he clearly doesnt have

[brisk wind]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[eternal basalt]

d1 atleast, oilcap helps a LOT

[brisk wind]

Check out this guide

[worldly pewter]

aiming for d1 is the best outcome but still it needs a little bit of crafty techniques

[wicked obsidian]

Lemme try and see...

[atomic abyss]

if you cant do d1, c2

[brisk wind]

If I had the choice between redeeming Shinano or Vanguard, which should I pick?

[atomic abyss]

shinano

[full plank]

guys i just started the game im on chapter 4 and i got atago,taihou.lion and bismarck
also unicorn portland and another one i forgot their name from guild shop
anyone else i should get? or any i should get from stages?

rn doing 3-3 for the 2 backline carriers

and lastly do stars affect the drops
like do i get better drops if i get 3 stars on the level first or no?

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

refer to this
based on this use
lion, unicorn, taihou
portland, helena and your starter

limit break lion asap once you get your first rainbow bulin
do not farm gear or ships from maps at this point
3* the maps for gems
try to do the event

[full plank]

aight bet bet
which event? tower whatever the name?

[atomic abyss]

rose on the high tower yes

[full plank]

aight bet

man lion is letting me relax so much
that screen wipe helps

[full plank]

should i build 400 times on light to exchange for shinano?

[atomic abyss]

extremely bad idea

[full plank]

aight
so imma wait for a event ig

[atomic abyss]

just do 1 light build a day since you already have lion
since you get back that cube from the daily mission

[full plank]

ight

[full plank]

uhhh how do i get affinity up i forgor

[wary skiff]

what armor type is arbiter hermit 9?

[atomic abyss]

use them in battle
1st secretary slot (up to 90)

[atomic abyss]

heavy

[full plank]

aight ty for the team btw im clearing all chapters rn with just that one fleet

not even losing a quarter of hp bars

[kind slate]

I got 70k points rn and already got traf copy + pr/dr7 prints. Should I continue farming event for glorious copies? Or stop

[viscid swift]

I'd stop at that point

[tame jungle]

how many of the winged lion's crest points can you get per day? was it 10?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[ornate narwhal]

Should I retrofit Li? I almost have enough mats. Also should I retrofit Helena or develop St. Louis first

[atomic abyss]

no
develop saint louis

[ornate narwhal]

Why isn’t Helena good?

[atomic abyss]

helena retro is low priority

[left wasp]

So I've finally completed research on Kearsage (despite people saying not to) and now I'm doing research on Anchorage

I'm unsure on the main sources of bp aside from events and research projects

[atomic abyss]

the buff she gains from it isnt much

[ornate narwhal]

Oh…but isn’t St. Louis not that good?

[atomic abyss]

that very much is it
research projects
kears doesnt have coining
but she does have catch up of 150 BP

[tame jungle]

st. louis (the american CL) is pretty bad
saint-louis (french PR CA) is decent

[atomic abyss]

who said she wasnt good
Saint Louis is good
St Louis is not

[ornate narwhal]

I mean the PR one

[atomic abyss]

that is saint louis

[ornate narwhal]

Oh I honestly didn’t know there was 2…

[tame jungle]

pandora's box opened...

[left wasp]

Hmm
I'm still unsure on what support vanguard ships to get now outside of Retrofit Helena, since all I can think of are tanks or damage dealers

[atomic abyss]

kazagumo
sirius
aurora

trafalgar from this event

plymouth who does both support and dmg

[ornate narwhal]

What about Li, I have nobody else who wants carrier retrofit mats so is it worth it to retrofit her?

[atomic abyss]

save them for saratoga
and independence

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[viscid swift]

or Ark Royal

[left wasp]

Anyways I now have dumped a good chunk of my BPs into Anchorage dev level 30

And now time to wait

[full plank]

best coin and gem farm?

[atomic abyss]

coin farm is w12-4

there is no such thing as a gem farm

[full plank]

aight so i do 12-4 until i cant anymore

[tame jungle]

gems are the premium currency of this game, best gem farm = real life job to buy top ups

[full plank]

i need a f2p way

need expansions and the uhh

high quality skins

[atomic abyss]

🐳

[tame jungle]

if you want to buy skins with your f2p gems you're making some giga cringe decisions my guy

[atomic abyss]

you want skins you whale

there's no way to farm gems

[full plank]

i mean i can save some but i need a way to farm them

[viscid swift]

my dude

[atomic abyss]

farm them irl

[tame jungle]

there is no way to farm them

[full plank]

oh
anything i should do to get them tho?
like a daily/weekly/monthly way?

[viscid swift]

for the time you spend farming gems

[full plank]

not even weekly or monthly quests?

[viscid swift]

you would be better off working minimum wage and using your paycheck to buy gems

[atomic abyss]

3* your campaign maps
that's all

[hollow gust]

Tips to farming gems

1. Get a job
2. Buy gems with money

[tame jungle]

weekly or monthly quests = collect irl paycheck

[full plank]

oof
not much expanding to do for free then is there

[viscid swift]

the only way you can "farm" gems is to spam maps in the hope of getting commissions that drop gems in the hope you actually get gems from them

[tame jungle]

(yes, that is as gunga cope as it sounds)

[full plank]

aight noted

[viscid swift]

and you'll be lucky to get 50 gems from one of them

so yeah, not worth it

[full plank]

any oath priority or just marry whoever

[tame jungle]

oath someone you like

[full plank]

taihou :D
(please help she is holding a gun to my head)

[atomic abyss]

thats almost 200 dock slots

[full plank]

niiice

speaking of dock i got last question
any way to auto retire common and other ships i get?

so i dont gotta manually go there

[atomic abyss]

no

[full plank]

oof

[tame jungle]

nope you gotta do it manually
however when raising your ships you can use the commons to enhance them

[stone sluice]

I think I haven’t gotten more than 500 gems total from commissions since I started playing 2 and a half years ago

[full plank]

did the game have much QoL changes at all since 2017?

[atomic abyss]

a lot

[viscid swift]

plenty

[full plank]

ay nice

[atomic abyss]

quick retire wasnt a thing

[tame jungle]

we had the ambush system

[full plank]

cause i really care about that when trying a game

[tame jungle]

in terms of effort required to keep up, AL is quite low once you've kinda figured the systems etc out

[full plank]

repeat sortie simulator

[viscid swift]

this isn't even everything

[tame jungle]

exciting side-scrolling shooter (press repeat every 15 mins)

[full plank]

wait events get rerunned?

[viscid swift]

yes

[full plank]

so im not missing out on old lore :D

[viscid swift]

takes about 2 bloody years these days though

[full plank]

man i love when a game lets you view the lore from older events

[full plank]

dw better than genshin lol that dragonspine event is forever lost 🤣

but ay would be nice if we had the archive like what nikke did

[atomic abyss]

all old events are archived

about a year after they rerun

[full plank]

where do i view them?

[atomic abyss]

you need to actually "do" the event in war archives

[full plank]

nice

[fallen jay]

NIKKE mentioned. I love that game it’s my first proper Gacha game that I spent any money on

I hope for the day they do a collab

[muted bloom]

Is there any reason to kill all the mobs in the SP stage before the boss?

[atomic abyss]

no

[lofty iris]

hi guys where do i ask for team building ? :3

[fallen jay]

Is there a way to add more weapons to my ships?

[atomic abyss]

beyond their 5 slots? no

[atomic abyss]

here

[lofty iris]

is UR always better or sometimes purple are better guys?

[atomic abyss]

a UR is better if they are max limit broken

[lofty iris]

oh to 120?

[atomic abyss]

otherwise they are worse than golds and sometimes purples

no, max star

[lofty iris]

oh T_T i dont have enough resources for that yet haha

[atomic abyss]

which is why the rule of URs is to not spead your rainbow bulins

[thin wraith]

I’m going to be building her anyway, because she’s an Ultra Rare. But is Lion worth my time?

[atomic abyss]

and dump them into 1

[atomic abyss]

best BB in the game

[thin wraith]

Wait, really?

[atomic abyss]

you would have if you had put them into 1 and not multiple ships

[lofty iris]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-sadhamster-hammy-hampter-popcat-gif-4792296869322301536

[thin wraith]

And how about Implacable?

[atomic abyss]

extremely good at freezing enemies for carrier boss comps

[lofty iris]

this is my current best fleet

[atomic abyss]

since you didnt, only NJ is usable

all your URs not at 6* are bad basically

[thin wraith]

Wow, I’ve been sitting on gold…

[lofty iris]

who should i remove and add to main fleet friend

[atomic abyss]

so you can remove all the URs besides NJ

[muted bloom]

How do I go about getting Winged Lion's Crests? Is SP only 5 a day?

[atomic abyss]

where's unicorn

[atomic abyss]

check pins

[muted bloom]

Oh wait, you can buy them. XD

[lofty iris]

i still dont know how to build a team i just put them randomly or who comes at event

[atomic abyss]

check for purple carrier unicorn

[thin wraith]

So other than putting Lion in, what should I do differently?

[atomic abyss]

same as the above guy, do not use URs if they're not at 6*

they will be worse than golds and elites

[thin wraith]

Wow…

[lofty iris]

her?

[atomic abyss]

yes her

best healer in the game once retrofit

replace shinano

[lofty iris]

woahhh

[muted bloom]

Well, time to farm D3

[lofty iris]

i didnt know she could replace shinano 0_0 she that strong?

[atomic abyss]

she is the best healer in the game

and that shinano is very weak right now to begin with

[thin wraith]

Is it worth retrofitting Unicorn twice to put on both main teams?

[atomic abyss]

no 6* UR = 🚮

[atomic abyss]

no because the boss fleet should never need a healer

[lofty iris]

woah i didnt know that cute little girl is that op

[thin wraith]

Gotcha

[viscid swift]

this is why you don't partially limit break URs

[lofty iris]

what about my team 2 ? i heard putting same faction is good?

[thin wraith]

How, exactly, do I build ships? I’ve been firing blind this whole time. I don’t know how to balance hit, evasion, luck, et cetera

[atomic abyss]

in terms of your fleets
the only usable ones are the 3 frontliners on fleet 1
everything else is missing stars and should not be used

[viscid swift]

wrong, very wrong

[thin wraith]

Yeah, they’re actually my strongest, by far

[atomic abyss]

putting aside the lack of limit breaks
faction fleets are bad

[full plank]

first ever gacha i had genuine fun in and was interested in lore

i didnt even have to watch a summary video unlike genshin where the majority of time you just read yap

[lofty iris]

ah i should put who has more stars right? like limit break them

[full plank]

no "X character kit in razor language"
all was understandable and clear

[lofty iris]

ah i see damn i been wasting resources in wrong build so much haha

[atomic abyss]

yes

you should consolidate your resources into a few ships, not spread them out

that was the mistake made

[thin wraith]

Okay, I’ll just look it up on YouTube

[ornate narwhal]

Is there a place that says what ships drop on each event stage?

[full plank]

better to have 1 full lb ship than a bunch of 1 lb ships

[lofty iris]

as i cant find tutorials tips and stuffs on internet or maybe ijust dont know where to find them

[atomic abyss]

wiki...

[ornate narwhal]

Oh Ty

[full plank]

my advice is spend yellow and rainbow bulins VERY carefully

had to find out the painful way

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[full plank]

my big sis is without mlb for that reason :(

[lofty iris]

i used to build bulins too before i know that they are to break limit i was that dumb haha

as they were my first gold ship

[full plank]

im waiting for someone to beat the last chapter on hard mode with bulins for the memes

[lofty iris]

like gave them gears and leveling them

[atomic abyss]

impossible

[lofty iris]

until i met some good friend who tell me they are to limit break haha

[full plank]

and knowing gameplay is bullet hell there will be one sweat who does it without taking any damage

bro will be ultra instinct dodging

[full plank]

brother i maxed out kon in brave souls for fun 😭

[dreamy blade]

so unlike other games you don't "build" ships by improving their stats, stats boil down to 'more is good' and gearing them is based on what gear is good rather than what stats it grants

[lofty iris]

oh XD i guess we should have researched abit before doing something eh? haha

[dreamy blade]

And you just use ships with good stats and skills to begin with

[full plank]

and it's surprisingly easy to understand at least for me

[thin wraith]

Thank you so much…

[full plank]

maybe cause im used to genshin skills being wiki pages

anyway i go sleep now then rush to chapter 10

[lofty iris]

im not sure but its just very hard to get infos when it comes to azur lane

[atomic abyss]

all the info is here essentially

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[lofty iris]

like im the only one in my group who plays it and very hard to get informations from internet

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[ornate narwhal]

Is it worth it to farm b2 to get Sara?

[atomic abyss]

no

[viscid swift]

no

[lofty iris]

and my worst nightmare is giving them proper gears that one confuse me the most as most terms are in short term like DD bb and stuffs

[viscid swift]

they're designations for warship classes used by the United States Navy

[agile patrol]

am i doing the right thing by buying these
idk 80 medals for 10k sounds great..

[viscid swift]

I think Sam has a guide in his picture guides someehere

[viscid swift]

it's not the worst but 80 medals isn't particularly difficult to get

[fallen jay]

Do you still play it? Please say yes.

[atomic abyss]

you can talk about other gachas in #off-topic

[lofty iris]

oh i see maybe i should redo the research of the gears

im scare to show u guys my gears that i gave them for

its a mess T_T like i just gave them better tier gears like gold over purple gears

[sinful escarp]

its alright, thats what this channel is for. to help players do what is more efficient and improve

[fallen jay]

My bad. Ok back to Azur Lane. So for the cat officers what should I do for them?

[whole crypt]

depends because medals are just a matter of grinding and retiring all the dupe rares and elites

[lofty iris]

oh and one more thing is what to do if i got one more girl who already is full star

[sinful escarp]

retire the duplicate if its blue rarity up

[lofty iris]

do i retire her or just keep her in case she need like hidden limit break? as im still only at chapter 10

[sinful escarp]

there is no hidden limit breaks here

[lofty iris]

ah so retire to get medals better

[fallen jay]

Wait what? So unless it’s one of the few that are in my main squad just retire the rest?

[sinful escarp]

the duplicate, not the one you have leveled

[lofty iris]

i think i get New jersey but she already full star

[fallen jay]

So don’t bother limitbreak if any of the randoms?

[lofty iris]

and i retired her

[fallen jay]

Lucky…

[lofty iris]

can they use for other girls limit break?

[sinful escarp]

his question is IF he has the ship mlb

[lofty iris]

or it has to be bulin only?

[fallen jay]

HOW DARE YOU?! Why didn’t you give her to me?!

[sinful escarp]

IF ship is MLB then retire dupe

[lofty iris]

i wish i can my friend T_T but i think i got her from like Envelope from event i think

[fallen jay]

So for all of them just limitbreak them in until they can’t anymore?

So long as it’s not using any bulins

[sinful escarp]

if you have the dupe then use the dupe, if not use the bullin

and if you really want to retire ships for more dock space. get them to 120 first before retiring

for their 120 tech

[lofty iris]

whats that? 0_0

[sinful escarp]

its something for late game players. basically at lvl120 ships give bonus stats to all ships of the same type

only +1 or +2 of a particular stat, but it builds up

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[lofty iris]

woahhh this is so much easier to read thank youuu so much friend

as on internet its like buffet with many foods but dont know which one to eat

[full plank]

ye i genuinely enjoy nikke

[whole crypt]

#off-topic

[glacial widget]

anyone have a boss fleet for 13-4 hard?

[weak dust]

What's first aircraft i should make with the UR design plans

[atomic abyss]

wyvern

[whole crypt]

where are you for campaign not hard

[glacial widget]

done with campaign, i just need to finish the hard campaign

[whole crypt]

throw your ch15 fleet at it

[weak dust]

Who does it go on

[atomic abyss]

unicorn probably

[glacial widget]

i took that fleet apart a while ago, i just dont remember what the vanguard was

i have mush-aqui-uni in the back

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething Guam Laffey II Shimanto Eldridge retro

[glacial widget]

perfect

[whole crypt]

you can get away without a BB in mob for 13 hard since no suicide boats if more AA would feel more stable for you

[glacial widget]

whats the best boss backline rn, something with lion and implac?

[atomic abyss]

for 13-4H
musashi + 2 CV works

since taihou is heavy armour

[dreamy blade]

amagi shinano

[glacial widget]

ive got mush in mob rn

[dreamy blade]

lion amagi shinano

[atomic abyss]

swap lion to mob also works

musashi can handle boss

[glacial widget]

should i throw a twin 76mm on mush, or keep my UR AA's in the vanguards

[hollow gust]

Frontline AA matters much much more

[dreamy blade]

musashi can live with staag

[glacial widget]

ive got 5 of them

[worldly cairn]

UR 533 mm quintuple torp or UR 610mm quintuple torp for torp focus ship?

[dreamy blade]

do you play on manual

[atomic abyss]

mag torps or bust

[worldly cairn]

on meta yes

[lofty iris]

oh and guys do u know when the girl with blindfold will come back? Alasce? and implacable
they are just very mommy af

[atomic abyss]

implacable just reran in march so

good luck

[viscid swift]

Alsace won't rerun for another year most likely

[worldly cairn]

alsace next year

[dreamy blade]

610 is good for manual, otherwise gold quad mags and ur quints are pretty similar in performance

[atomic abyss]

at least a year till she becomes permanent
alsace reruns next year

[lofty iris]

ohhh they can become permanent??? like we can obtain them from normal pulling?

[atomic abyss]

yes, but you shdnt pull perma to begin with

[dreamy blade]

URs follow a schedule of initial release->event rerun->added to perma pool

[whole crypt]

610 is not that great for manual, if you're manual sniping it's tea torps most of the time

[lofty iris]

oh no....

[atomic abyss]

you shd get them from sparks

not by pulling

[worldly cairn]

tea torp is hms one?

[hollow gust]

In order for the 610 to work well you need to face plant you frontline into the boss

[lofty iris]

i wanted Vanguard and thought i can build pulls here

[agile patrol]

okay
now that i have lion, is there any reason for me to keep pulling on event banner?
or do i go back to pulling daily on light

[atomic abyss]

daily light

[dreamy blade]

wishing well

[whole crypt]

assuming you survive faceplanting the boss you still have to live with the spread angle fucking up your shots

[lofty iris]

sparks? like event?

[agile patrol]

whar??

[whole crypt]

you could try hitting at point blank and one of the torps can still fly off the side

[atomic abyss]

permanent UR spark is built by your daily light builds or non UR events

[dreamy blade]

#gameplay-help message

[lofty iris]

i still dont get this T_T

[dreamy blade]

tldr if you dont have a ton of cubes then pick yatsen+aurora from light pool and do your daily pull on that

[lofty iris]

ahhh this one?

[dreamy blade]

no, the 'limited' button on the left

[slow fox]

suchimisinformation

[atomic abyss]

tldr is
during UR events, all in for the limited UR till you get them
outside UR events, 1x light build a day

[whole crypt]

permanent URs have a pity counter based on your cubes spent in non-UR pools
your regular daily builds in light will also count to it so there's no point trying to pull hard in the more expensive banners for them

[meager tiger]

wrong server sorry

[lofty iris]

i thought i had to pull in special so might get special girls like more rare dang T_T

[sweet delta]

Spark = pity, basically. If that's what's confusing you

[dreamy blade]

oh wait youre not talking about wishing well, yes that light construction is typically what you do the daily pull on

[agile patrol]

okay soo.. if i understand it well, its a DiY gacha pool
and im supposed to pick aurora and yat sen. and.. build pity for UR instead of pick a specific one.
shall i i pick aurora/yat sen or do i do submarines?

[dreamy blade]

you can go for subs if you plan to push w14/w15 soon

[whole crypt]

well while wishing well is up you can also do a daily "light" on wishing well if you pick light pool

[sweet delta]

Aurora is bis by far against quite a few bosses throughout mid late end game

[agile patrol]

im gonna go light ships then

[agile patrol]

im really early game, i dont think this is necessary for now (atleast)

[dreamy blade]

also it's harder to get a specific ship from the perma pool than it is to get a UR in this game which is why aurora is recommended

[sweet delta]

Yes just pick aurora and whoever, and do 1 build per day

[lofty iris]

ahhh dang i been doing everything wrong haha

i was like the hotter she is the more dmg she will does lol

[whole crypt]

usual gacha logic doesn't work for AL

[agile patrol]

wait. slightly stupid question
Is it Aurora or Avrora 💔

[dreamy blade]

aUrora

[sweet delta]

U

[agile patrol]

U

[sweet delta]

The purple rarity ship

[agile patrol]

dones

[sweet delta]

Maybe should make that explicitly clear. Aurora the purple not Avrora the gold. For future ww copy pastes too

Hot blond chick instead of white haired grandma

[sinful escarp]

you forgot drunk

[sweet delta]

Esp when avrora appears earlier while scrolling down

[lofty iris]

oh and this guys if all full i will obtain her?? im still confuse with this one too like they give u these mommy ships for free?

[viscid swift]

yes if you finish all those missions you will unlock her

[lofty iris]

is she different from wishing event or obtaining here the same?

[viscid swift]

and it's not free, it's still a decent bit of grinding involved and it's a lot of work to enhance them

[sweet delta]

Have you been doing pr2 research projects you should not be

[viscid swift]

out the of box she's useless, you'll need 2 months of coining to get her to dev 30 and actually usable

[lofty iris]

ohhh really??? i thought the horned girl is strong and i thought i had to get her first T_T have i been wrong again?

[sweet delta]

I'm talking about the Research Academy, not the Shipyard

Screenshot your Research Academy

[dreamy blade]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_focus

[lofty iris]

this one?

[sweet delta]

Yes very bad

[lofty iris]

oh no

i thought those blueprints, they show like 100/570 something and thought if i can collect 570 i can get the ship

which PR should i focus on my friend?

[sweet delta]

Read this by friend samheart565

[dreamy blade]

that is how it works but for earlier seasons you can spend coins for blueprints, and you can also obtain the gear from those seasons through other means, hence why it's bad to 'focus' those

[lofty iris]

dang i ve been doing everything wrong haha should have come to ask for help in this channel long ago.

https://tenor.com/view/ogli-gif-17468683305861986751

[viscid swift]

you could start by burning some of that oil, you're over your soft cap

[lofty iris]

oh i been doing dailies too but im not sure where to spend them and they keep building up 😦

[viscid swift]

spam D3 of the event

and after you get everything you need farm 12-1

[lofty iris]

this one friend?

[viscid swift]

yes

[lofty iris]

ah i see thank you will start doing now.

what about the SP one friend it says my requirements are not met but i dont know what requirements i need it says dmg not enough or something

[atomic abyss]

you need average above level 110 ships

[lofty iris]

oh 110.... no wonder why thought i had to upgrade gears to met the requirements

[atomic abyss]

It's literally written there

[lofty iris]

ohhh it was meant for me?? i thought the enemies lvl are like 110 haha

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys is there anywhere on the discord with skin interaction guides?

[atomic abyss]

you can check #al-general pins

but most of them are on the subreddit

[trim sparrow]

Ah i see thanks. I just dont have the patience to tap everywhere getting nowhere haha. Ill the the reddit

[proven fable]

what are some really good lion loadouts? so far ive gotten her to peaka 22k damage crit. but i need more lmao

[sharp socket]

are you looking for usage for her in a fleet or maximising dps (damage per screenshot)

[sweet delta]

Are you just looking for max damage?

[lofty iris]

mine does like 3000 max haha

[mellow cape]

Wth lmao

[paper ore]

Feeding that lion a steady supply of PEDs

[dreamy blade]

cleveland helena gaming

[raven canyon]

who should i research in series 7?

[sinful escarp]

nakh then napoli

[wispy star]

Is it alright to use the gear on each character's details on the EN community tier list website as a guideline?

[weary gust]

For campaign to W13 yes, as long as you read the tags/description for usage. It isn't ordered in best->worst. Gear is situational.

[proven fable]

i just want her to do a lot of damage to anything

[sinful escarp]

there is no gear like that. its really situational on what you are fighting against if you want to get as much dmg as possible

[proven fable]

mainly siren bosses like arbiter

or meta showdown. im currently doing helena meta and im literally doing 1.1mil damage and its sadge

no one shot 😭

[sinful escarp]

i forgot what to put in helmet. but since thats a two shot that still good enough

as for opsi make a fleet for all armor types: light, med, heavy. and then a mob fleet

[weary gust]

One shotting META fights is one of the highest difficulty things in the game atm. Two shot is easy, one shot requires very finely tuned gear and comp that not many players have.

[ornate narwhal]

How do I heal in opsi?

[lunar anchor]

Any tips on keeping dock capacity down? Should I get rid of my level 1 commons? etc

[raven canyon]

people've said that you should use commons for enhancement whenever you can

[left wasp]

I mean
that's what I did

[lunar anchor]

Even if its the single copy you own right?

[left wasp]

commons are mostly enhancement material
however
commons also count towards a collection iirc

[raven canyon]

i mean ye most of them arent exactly viable for gameplay

[lunar anchor]

[weary gust]

Use a healer in mob fleet for normal sustain. You can use repair items from storage on injured ships. If they have been sunken and have a red wrench, go to a blue port and heal them.

[sinful escarp]

regroup and rest. also fleet deployment

or there are repair kits

[left wasp]

and getting some commons to mlb can contribute to some rewards
most are eh but some are really good (beaver squad badge, gems)

[lunar anchor]

Ok

[weary gust]

They also give fleet tech for PR/DR and tech stat bonuses.

[sinful escarp]

if you really want to retire random ships, get them to 120 first before retiring them

they give bonus stats at 120. not much but it builds up

[lunar anchor]

Just trying to farm w/o having to sort every 5 minutes

[weary gust]

Dock space should be where almost all of your gems as f2p go for this reason/for collection because there are nearly 700 perma ships in the game (not collab)

[sinful escarp]

have you joined a guild? you can buy more dockspaces for it

[lunar anchor]

Using my 28 Purple Bulins would probably help also

[lunar anchor]

Yikes

[lunar anchor]

Okay, I'll take a look at guilds. I haven't really messed with it too much

[sinful escarp]

you should, guilds are basically free stuff

+30 dock slots at max

[proven fable]

im only 200k damage away, im running triple BB for damage but idk what my third one should be. Im stuck between FDG or Raffaello. sadly i didnt have the game installed when the other really good BBs were out 😭 💀

[lunar anchor]

I shall farm the event till I get enough gold to upgrade to max 😭

[vale spindle]

Go to a blue port then click port bottom right then click repair

[wary lake]

do you actually need to spend 1000 gem for a skin projection on one ship??

[proven fable]

better off just buying the skin

[wary lake]

yea that's crazy who thought this was a good idea

[left wasp]

I still followed the advice and just dumped all my blueprints into Anchorage after Kearsage

[weary gust]

You can unlock several projection slots for free. At least two afaik. Not that the projection is a useful feature in any way

[proven fable]

yo whats the website that shows ship builds?

[left wasp]

Then I should be able to do Ägir, who's much easier due to Coin-Up

[proven fable]

shes really tanky lmao and does good damage

[left wasp]

Well its still gonna take a bit since I've only started Anchorage research

then I should be able to do Agir research after like
this week

[proven fable]

try and aim for ships that would be good with your fleet, if your looking for a high dps cruiser, then hindenburg is really good, but if you want decent damage with some heals and decent tankiness, then brest is also good. im not too sure about napoli yet, but maybe someone who has her can help out with that one lmao

[sinful escarp]

get plymouth, she is good at everything for some reason

[left wasp]

Well I'm trying to go for a CVL fleet
Backline: Enterprise/Yorktown 2/New Jersey OR Kearsage
Vanguard: Any Main Tank/Dido/IDK

[sinful escarp]

might want to change dido to sirius, as for main tank anchorage imo

[proven fable]

yes

[left wasp]

Planning to put her in my Lion Fleet
Backline: Lion/Vanguard/???
Vanguard: Any main tank/ Plymouth/Trafalgar

[sinful escarp]

do you have kazagumo? she is a staple for CV fleets

[left wasp]

whoops, well that's what I meant

[proven fable]

im in the same boat here with my backline lmao

[left wasp]

I just realized, no

and I have no idea where to obtain her

[sinful escarp]

for that bb fleet, alsace is good there

[proven fable]

very

[sinful escarp]

kazagumo is in medal exchange

[left wasp]

oh ok

[proven fable]

are there any other good healing BBs?

[sharp socket]

enty yorkii kear is the light cv fleet

frontline has many options now

[left wasp]

I'm trying to consider what's a good fleet to put a Freezer/Slower support at

[sharp socket]

eld would go in there

because rocket fighters can do with only slow

[sinful escarp]

a cv fleet like: shinano, amagiCV, implac: a tank, kazagumo, sirius

[sharp socket]

thats the heavy CV fleet

but with amagicv it can do reasonably well on all armors

BB fleet can also do reasonably well on all armors

[sinful escarp]

thats what i use in opsi and do well on any bosses

not one shot, but enough dmg so it enough for harbiter

[left wasp]

well rn I have 2 BB fleets planned
Iron Blood BB and Royal Navy BB
former has Ulrich, FDG, and Bismarck Zwei
latter I kinda explained #gameplay-help message

[weary gust]

Faction fleets are bad.

[sharp socket]

the problem with lazy opsi fleetbuilding is that there aren't enough vanguards for 3 CV boss fleets so you pick two and have the last one be BB fleet which is getting buffed anyway with lion and trafalgar

[sweet delta]

three CV fleets?

[sharp socket]

for your BB fleet you can do lion bzwei vanguard agir helena plymouth

[sharp socket]

well if you want to be like that then 1 CV fleet and 2 hybrid fleets

you should know what those are suchi

[sweet delta]

I think the average lazy player with all URs should have a stronger BB fleet than the third CV fleet, regardless of vanguard options

[honest sequoia]

Too broke for CVs
I just run 3 BB fleet and 1 CV fleet

[sweet delta]

Considering November strength and cats (drake every vs third pair of cv cats)

[sharp socket]

so 1 CV fleet, 1 hybrid and 1 BB fleet is my recommendation if they have all ships

[proven fable]

how does you vanguard stay alive when you run triple BB 😭, mine get hella chipped down without unicorn 💀

[sharp socket]

CV heavy: amagicv, shinano, implac
hybrid medium: soyuz, nakhi, fritz
BB: lion +2 (alsace/bzwei/vanny)

[ornate narwhal]

How long does it take for 200 anchors to recharge?

[honest sequoia]

In Arbiter or meta?

[sharp socket]

soyuz alsace fritz can do light too so it can do 2 armors

[sinful escarp]

are you talking about arbiters or opsi mobbing?

[proven fable]

yeah, like when im running abyssal bosss and stuff too

cuz im trying to maximize my damage output

i dont have alsace sadly

[sweet delta]

Try to use HP or EVA instead of oxytorps

[honest sequoia]

^^

[warped acorn]

oxytorps dont worth the cost?

[honest sequoia]

If they don’t die sure

[warped acorn]

oh well but 1500 sounds like uhh

[proven fable]

i have washing machine on my whole vanguard, but the sheer bullet spam on those goofy ass bosses just chips them down a ton

[weary gust]

If the idea of spending 1500 core on a marginally useful aux scares you, then you're not at the point in the game where they'd be useful to you in those few situiations.

[sweet delta]

rainbow Oxytorps are for endgame damage maxing

[warped acorn]

endgame... understandable then

[obsidian ivy]

What's the fastest possible opsi mobbing fleet assuming you have every relevant ship and equip?

[sweet delta]

Gold oxytorp is free and gives 30 less trp compared to +10

What level of opsi, like corrosion 1 safe zones? Strongholds? Corrosion 5 safe?

[proven fable]

lions barrage skill is a very funny thing for that

[obsidian ivy]

Clearing everything + stronghold

Not arbiter

[proven fable]

against who in endgame tho?

[sweet delta]

I would assume it's still something like Aquila, Unicorn/Perseus, Luna/Independence/akagimu, Unzen, Hindenburg/shimakaze, Ibuki

[proven fable]

in a fleet?

[warped acorn]

anchorage or ches better 🤔

[honest sequoia]

me who uses fdg + UvH tgt with unicorn

[sweet delta]

Oxytorp is used by torp ships sometimes and by some submarines with bidder/g7e or by all submarines with the most extravagant gear

[proven fable]

i see, so not good on unzen then?

[south sequoia]

oxytorp maxxing is also a gateway to pvp gaming

[sweet delta]

Unzen counts as a torp ship

[proven fable]

vanguard dissintegration 💀

[proven fable]

i see, so then should i run washing machine or toolbox on her?

[sweet delta]

I've seen many meta showdown fleets use Unzen with oxytorp(s)

[proven fable]

i see

[slim dawn]

can raffa work with non sardegnian fleet?

[dreamy blade]

her faction buffs are a bonus not a requirement to play around

[proven fable]

yes

shes pretty fun to use

im currently trying to figure out if shes a better boss damage dealer than fdg

[sweet delta]

She is a better bosser than fdg

[proven fable]

epic

[sweet delta]

And a better mobber than fdg

[proven fable]

her barrage is stylish and good lmao

[sharp socket]

is raffy better than fdg at w14

[obsidian ivy]

Does this look ok

[proven fable]

she gives a nice shield and good heals

[sweet delta]

Oh right watarase is the mobber slot

[proven fable]

holy oathed ships, damn

[sharp socket]

all of those 4 fleets suck

[mellow cape]

Low-key ye

[proven fable]

better than mine lmao

[rigid onyx]

i'd do a black torp on each for the mob considering the ships only get their preload

[sweet delta]

The mob fleet looks ok, the boss fleet isn't ideal, and the cross fleet fleets don't need to be judged

[sharp socket]

id rather have 1 mob and 3 boss fleets than 1 mob 1 boss and 2 crossfleets if i have all ships

[obsidian ivy]

I suppose at this point everything just dies in any case

[proven fable]

why shima in the front and not guam or Z52?

[rigid onyx]

if you have all ships you don't need a 4th fleet ever

[obsidian ivy]

Fleets 3 and 4 aren't used.... They're cross fleet slaves

[sweet delta]

I don't think the boss fleet will have a good time against November hard arbiter

[obsidian ivy]

Yea it's noted with a red 11 down there

Prolly just swap around when that month comes

[sharp socket]

therefore just have 3 good boss fleets

[sweet delta]

It seems that they're going all in on one striking every boss

[sharp socket]

or make a boss fleet for each boss

[obsidian ivy]

Is Perseus better strictly in this case? The choice looks odd

[sweet delta]

Yes

[rigid onyx]

I think that for specifically a fast mob fleet harbin + ibuki is preferred over unzen + ibuki because harbin provides a unique torp timing

[obsidian ivy]

I see, I'm fine with her or uni in any case

[sharp socket]

shinano amagicv implacable, guam kazagumo sirius
soyuz nakhimov fritz, z52 helena filler
lion alsace bzwei, agir trafalgar plymouth

[proven fable]

in what situations is perseus better than uni?

[sweet delta]

Perseus is used to activate watarase twice, probably

[rigid onyx]

a fast loader (bearnm, etc) over aquilla is preferred for the same reason

[sweet delta]

When the battles are short, like less than 20s

[rigid onyx]

this is also really pointless but should be faster

[proven fable]

i see, alr then

[frigid elbow]

Does the current event ends after this maintenance?
Asking cause I am saving reading the story this sunday since I was very busy since the start of event

[dreamy blade]

1 more week

[tidal meteor]

~1 more hour to datamine?

[warped acorn]

they have maint rn?

[plain saffron]

Idk when they gonna release the predownload

[tidal meteor]

We shall continue waiting then

[plain saffron]

Nvm it is now

[tidal meteor]

Prediction: new French DB bad, timing only

[river junco]

kinda hoping for a decent db cause current options are really only tenrai and purple helldiver

[tidal meteor]

And Skyraider for light/medium single target

[warped acorn]

lets pray those iris stuff to be good 🙏

[echo nexus]

for the limited building, who’d be better to pick in either the light or special pools?

[viscid swift]

Aquila if you have the cubes to spare

bearing in mind Zwei and Ryza are rerunning soon

[warped acorn]

i got inde now should i replace her with nelson?

[sweet delta]

Gold DB - garbage, worse than 1771
IJN dd gun - worse than tash gun except against heavy

[warped acorn]

also i do upgrade all inde skills right or is there any not worth to

[echo nexus]

already got zwei, but ryza i still need, so i’ll probably only use a small amount of cubes trying to get aquila then 👀
didn’t know about the reruns so ty

[viscid swift]

to no one's suprise

[warped acorn]

good?

[viscid swift]

for what?

[warped acorn]

normal context

[viscid swift]

what is "normal" exactly

[sweet delta]

1.6m HP, 75 Eva, 50 luck

[warped acorn]

maybe campaign, since i dont have 2 fleet

[warped acorn]

also this

[viscid swift]

you should probably look into a 2nd fleet at this point then

[tidal meteor]

Kawakaze META showdown?

[viscid swift]

wouldn't even really bother leveling new ships like Independence up at that point just use what you already have leveled

[warped acorn]

but the party didnt gave me fund to 😔

[sweet delta]

Dead master evades all attacks for 15s when dying like hiryuu, nothing special

[viscid swift]

looks like another DPS race

[warped acorn]

damn light armor

[viscid swift]

just embezzle the funds

[sweet delta]

What did you expect, heavy armor DD?

[warped acorn]

they all worth leveling?

[viscid swift]

yes

[warped acorn]

nearly retrofit but not enough lv

[viscid swift]

pretty much all the skills of the ships you'll use are worth maxing

[warped acorn]

missing enty from the old beginner task is a pain 😔 now no good cv for me all cvl

[warped acorn]

322 aa...

[tidal meteor]

Nothing in core shop/merit shop/medals shop?

[hollow gust]

that means nothing

[mellow cape]

New ship?

[warped acorn]

nothing, been some months

[viscid swift]

yes, Collab ship

[mellow cape]

Is it worth pulling?

[fair lance]

It’s free no pulling iirc

[mellow cape]

Whatt

[warped acorn]

the 462 avi 🤔

[mellow cape]

Where do I get them?

[warped acorn]

is it alot or less than average

[viscid swift]

both ships will be obtained from grinding mini events

[tidal meteor]

See patch notes

[viscid swift]

nothing particularly impressive this time

[warped acorn]

that meta still as bad like other meta as usual huh

[sweet delta]

You say without knowing if her barrages do over 9000 DPS

[obsidian ivy]

Light META....

[viscid swift]

we've had light metas before

[paper ore]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragon-ball-z-unlimited-power-over9000-power-level-gif-12316102

[obsidian ivy]

Yea ik, still kinda rare though

[eager mulch]

is there a datamine? im on 6% battery

[obsidian ivy]

Wow those torp prints can finally be useful. Somewhat.

[sweet delta]

Breguet is 30 electronics

[opaque galleon]

These torps are still kind of a scam no?

[obsidian ivy]

Yea, but it's not like there's anything useful to craft with the prints to begin with

[warped acorn]

quad to quint torp 🤔

[paper ore]

what are the other materials you need for the french baguette?

[opaque galleon]

I think rainbow mags are better than these torps, but yeah, not super useful

[warped acorn]

main gun?

[opaque galleon]

No

[warped acorn]

whats mag

[tidal meteor]

The IB UR quint mag torp also uses gold quad to craft

[opaque galleon]

Magnetic torpedo, the German ones

[warped acorn]

oh

[opaque galleon]

Wtf is that spread range lmao

[warped acorn]

wth are the guns

[sonic hemlock]

AA.

Does it intercept?

[opaque galleon]

Doesn’t look like it

[plain saffron]

there's only 1 cd so nope

[sonic hemlock]

So it's quite literally garbage.

[opaque galleon]

The bombs are nearly 100% accurate no?

[viscid swift]

depends on what you call near but

about 87% hit rate or something

but given the pitiful damage of the bombs...

[opaque galleon]

Yeah it is pretty low

[warped acorn]

the aug...

[warped acorn]

that dead scythe aug 😭

[plain saffron]

why this META looks like it does a lot of dmg overrall

all new gear is french right?

datamine is in translation

[warped acorn]

that dead scythe upgraded skill happens when own hp lower than 70%??

[chilly plaza]

For the event, what missions do I have to clear to get the SP and EX missions? I’ve 3 starred all of them and finished the story

[patent pivot]

@plain saffron do you have dungeon and enemyID of META?

[warped acorn]

clear d3 which is hardmode of b3

[patent pivot]

want to update my site before

[plain saffron]

expedition 296285

[eager mulch]

datamine: ❌
dataslow: ✅

[eternal moth]

Looking at Dead Master, does that really say she has a 15 second version of Hiryuu's ability?

[patent pivot]

i assume enemyID is 295285 and dungeonID is 296285?

[chilly plaza]

Ohhh (I don’t think I’m high enough level yet 😬😬😬

[warped acorn]

oh rip i guess

[eternal moth]

It's not that big a deal if you don't clear them. You still have plenty of time to farm for points so you can get at least one if not both copies of Trafalgar

[warped acorn]

agree

[plain saffron]

not sure enemy id i didn't look

[plain saffron]

that's it i'm banning you from seeing datamine

[viscid swift]

no, there's an IJN DD gun

[viscid swift]

yes

[patent pivot]

well lack of counterevidence is good enough for me

[plain saffron]

what's the name

is it not in yet hmm

[patent pivot]

my site is updated for kawa if yall have comps to test,

[viscid swift]

it's mainly just testing to see what it'll take for the vanguard to live

[plain saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iOG6Jg8mYtjbL5fk9c6xt4Aq-b23OTHY_kPPbJpa6Co/edit?usp=sharing

Datamine, everyone except turtle are allowed to open it

[viscid swift]

I doubt we'll have trouble actually killing her with modern gear and ships

[warped acorn]

is there oil cap everywhere starting chap 9?

[plain saffron]

if clearing mode is on yes

[warped acorn]

oh thank god

[forest palm]

manual players will be happy

[warped acorn]

except turtle

[rapid grail]

real manual players were there on shima's event and rerun

[forest palm]

I am curious about the Breguet mat cost

[rapid grail]

everyone else is just sparkling ex players

[plain saffron]

shit res

[forest palm]

Breguet seems rather cheap

[opaque galleon]

IJN gun looks kinda bad no?

[viscid swift]

it is bad

[viscid swift]

worse than Tashkent except against heavy

[plain saffron]

better res

[opaque galleon]

Kinda feels like a 137mm (Eagle Union backline secondary) that can be used on vanguard

[plain saffron]

also there's new type(?)

[twilit crow]

is it more worth to just exchange breguet for 800 core?

than craft it, becuase its catching up to a price of a wyvern other than 9 ur ordanance repots, like 51 electronics would be catching up to a wyvern

ur aircraft design*

[opaque galleon]

The reload is the part that really sucks though isn’t it?

[rapid grail]

considering that gold electronics is comparable to Rentarou in Hyakkano (gfs = GOOD gear that require gold electronics), yes that's less hassle in the long run

[warped acorn]

havent say how much lb bomb?

[warped acorn]

wth is bounce attack

[opaque galleon]

Skip bombs

[warped acorn]

oh

[tidal meteor]

Means need playtest for actual performance?

[warped acorn]

is bounce attack new feature 🤔

[tidal meteor]

Afaik skipbombs only in skill barrages so far like Nakhimov's

[soft raft]

ayo?
Big if true

What the russian PR5 planes wish they had

[plain saffron]

will prob get a footage soon

[meager zephyr]

should my cvl be on the secretary slot

[sinful escarp]

put who you want to see on your login screen

[plain saffron]

Do you like her?

[sinful escarp]

aside from the bonus in affinity gain, there is no point in choosing a different secretary

even then its only very minimal and not game changing

so just put who you want to see when you login

[meager zephyr]

is hornet different from hornet II is it not a retrofit type thing

[inner delta]

different ship, not a retro

[split bramble]

how many gem is the double ring again?

[inner delta]

980 i think

[zenith pebble]

Does the x2 reward things also x2 my exp gain?

[inner delta]

it 2x all positive and negative

other than run count

[zenith pebble]

Omg bread is alive???

Hi and thx

[tame fog]

Anything interesting in this upcoming gear lab update?

[viscid swift]

Not really

[atomic abyss]

Nothing noteworthy at least

[tame fog]

Damn

[blissful hamlet]

UR torps :god:

[hollow gust]

🚮

[eternal moth]

Are the UR torps any good for manual?

[atomic abyss]

Yes if you face torp

[wind hazel]

is teatorp better or shimatorp better?

[atomic abyss]

Shima if you actually ram the enemy and fire

[plain saffron]

Chat is this true?

[viscid swift]

Pretty much

[meager zephyr]

can someone explain research academy and project identity to me? like what do they give or do and what do i need to get or do those things, its confusing even after guide

[mellow cape]

It's where you get PR research prints for ships or weapons

[wind hazel]

research academy is basically where you get your shipyard blueprints to enhance them, it's also your source of some of the rainbow gear

[mellow cape]

And you can look at the shipyard to decide which "PR series" to start off with

[wind hazel]

you can ignore project identity, it's a skin feature that has no gameplay value

[mellow cape]

Shipyard and Research Academy are directly tied together. I suggest looking at shipyard real quick

[sinful escarp]

project identity is just a bonus secretary in the form of TB and oceana. they have different skins depending on the ending you unlocked

its a child raising simulator that doesnt do anything gameplay wise

[mellow cape]

Something along the lines of this

In order to max these ships, you need ship blue prints which are gained from the research academy

[wind hazel]

important part is the research focus at the bottom right, click it and you'll see this next screen

select PR/DR5 or 7

[twilit crow]

if i have no good cats and dont really want to spend many coin rerolling cats can i just use a gold cat with flames aggression

[mellow cape]

Ye lol

[sinful escarp]

it wont make it so only the focus series appear, but make it just appear at a much higher rate

[wind hazel]

if you have tempesta cats, use them

[twilit crow]

uhhh no

[wind hazel]

for BB at least

🫃🏼 then just use whatever best you have

[twilit crow]

i have a bishimaru with flames aggession and Aviation Rookie

thats like it all the other ones dont have core skills or whatever theyre called

[warped acorn]

when will this reset or no

[wind hazel]

catchup doesn't reset

[warped acorn]

sadge, what a fate selection

[wind hazel]

huh

[twilit crow]

oh mori its been a week guess how many plygun prints i got

[wind hazel]

1

[twilit crow]

yeah

honestly i was wondering how you knew

i got it on tuesday

[wind hazel]

i was an African shaman in my past life

[mellow cape]

Weapon research focus too?

[twilit crow]

yeah

but i couldnt get many of then to queue

like q type

[wind hazel]

it's fine just keep at it. can happen sometimes, some of us go on 2 weeks spree without a single rainbow print

[robust jackal]

Are the collab update ships good for late game senior players or just collection?

[viscid swift]

Just collection

[robust jackal]

great... have their been any collab ships that come close to Chise from Gridman?

[vital dune]

is a monarch good? should i invest in her

[wind hazel]

she's okay, but izumo from the same pr1 is better with augment

[vale spindle]

if you said that same line in 2021 people would point and laugh

[viscid swift]

Chise hasn't been relevant for end game players unless you care about hyper optimizing opsi clear times

[wind hazel]

i think klaudia is the most relevant collab ship

the rest are pretty much nice collection to have

[robust jackal]

I primarily use her for clearing, events, and opsi.

[wind hazel]

ok maybe TLR have some OP ships

[sweet delta]

I think shirakami fubuki is notable for being the only DD with planes that actually work

[wind hazel]

and homura 🫃🏼

[robust jackal]

who was standout for TLR?

[wind hazel]

the main 4 gold ships are all pretty good

momo makes w14 a breeze

[viscid swift]

I mean we have plenty of preloads as is

[robust jackal]

For CV/L?

[viscid swift]

Unicorn, Aquila, Perseus, Formidable Muse

[blissful hamlet]

What does skip bombing mean?

New dive bomber any good?

Skip bomb is rocket

[inner delta]

its a bomb that skipped over the water

[meager zephyr]

who do i research first or do i pick which i need cuz if it doesnt really matter and js go for a shipgirl i like thats a lil decent ig i will

[blissful hamlet]

What does it affect the gameplay compared to regular bomb?

[meager zephyr]

also what ship type takes care of escort fleets and the fast ships they alway get away from me

[plain saffron]

You can see it doesn't have spread area like normal bomb and have velocity and splash area instead

Need a while to get the footage

[wind hazel]

if you just started the game, just pick either saint louis or roon

[blissful hamlet]

Like torpedo bombers?

[wind hazel]

whichever you can develop, most likely Louis

[plain saffron]

.

[blissful hamlet]

[wind hazel]

might be good idea to give this a read too https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[sonic hemlock]

Kawakaze looks pretty good.

[meager zephyr]

i selected agir to research now how do i start the research

[soft raft]

Catchup and research are sepreate things

Give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[meager zephyr]

oh so how do i uh start the one that gets blueprints
ok

[undone saffron]

Did i make the right choice?

Hope i did🙏

[soft raft]

Based fellow Hood enjoyer
But nah, doesnt really matter who you oath 99% of the time, especially if you're F2P

[undone saffron]

really thought the buffs would do smth game changing but tbh i just love hood gang

Ion care abt dmg anymore as long as im with her ahh😭🙏

[ebon pasture]

Is shimakase good i just got her

[soft raft]

Pretty powercrept these days
Unzen does her job better (but with actual gun damage) and all of the other non-retro UR DDs provide way more utility than her

[ebon pasture]

So.. she is not good right?

[soft raft]

Compared to other URs yes
She's better than the majority of lower rarity DDs but at the same time, she doesn't really do much to justify prioritizing her over other URs

[ebon pasture]

Ok

[gray grove]

how do u guys decide on fleet positioning

[next raft]

Hey , is it worth keeping the ships that are not needed for the memento collection? Like level them up to 5 stars for some reward. ive been sitting on 5 dock storage for like 2 weeks and its killing me having to retire after 3 battles

[vital dune]

ouh alr

[viscid swift]

I mean for fleet tech and 120 tech yes

[clear harbor]

Special Invitation Advice

[viscid swift]

For the vanguard it's mostly determined by eHP

[next raft]

alright thank you

[ebon pasture]

How do i unlock sp event stage

[viscid swift]

Clear d3

[gray grove]

i want to learn about the best position for every unit type , from my understanding healers top left tanks bottom left and units with barrage middle including vanguards?

[viscid swift]

No

Your flagship is typically a BB as they're the tankiest and Flagship position is the best to defend against suicide boats with their aux guns, best arcs of fire

Vanguard positioning like I said is mainly about ehp

You tankiest ship is the lead/leftmost, 2nd tankiest right most, etc

[gray grove]

excuse my lack of knowledge whats ehp

[ebon pasture]

What is d3?

[wind hazel]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[gray grove]

oh the tankiest is middle top ?

[viscid swift]

The 2 off flag positions for the main fleet don't matter too much

[viscid swift]

Effective HP

[gray grove]

i see i see

[slow fox]

-# omg ehp mentioned

[gray grove]

and my fleet should complement each other by skills provided , such as this unit boost other ships that are from this type of ship so its best to use ships with similar region or name

[viscid swift]

No

The buffs and synergies are bonuses most of the time, they will not turn a bad ship into a good one

[ebon pasture]

Thank you

[viscid swift]

Especially early game, the ships will have little to no synergy in your fleets

[gray grove]

how does one decide if this unit is good or bad?

[viscid swift]

They're being used because they're just good

[viscid swift]

Consulting experienced players and reputable tier lists mainly

[gray grove]

its because at somepoint i want to graduate from #gameplay-help and rely on my self , sorry if my questions seem confusing

[atomic abyss]

In my opinion
The best way to learn is really to sit here and lurk

[viscid swift]

Uhhh

[gray grove]

well , i been watching this 4 year old video https://youtu.be/YGgF3CMQ1UY?si=IDfqw4_xRK_VK8Uk

[viscid swift]

Good luck with that

[sinful escarp]

its a mix of a lot of things, from skills, to barrages, to gear set up etc

[gray grove]

would u say this is so outdated i shouldnt rely on it?

[viscid swift]

Shit video made by a shit you tuber

[gray grove]

omgg

[atomic abyss]

I mean the fact that faction fleets ships are on the thumbnail says a lot...

[gray grove]

duuudeee this game is soo haard i envy the ppl that understands itttt

[atomic abyss]

It takes time

[viscid swift]

I mean

[atomic abyss]

^

[viscid swift]

It's not really that difficult

[atomic abyss]

(I beg to differ)

[severe tinsel]

I got the UR ship from event shop, should I replace some1 on my current fleet?

[viscid swift]

It's honestly more memorization of what's good against what more than anything else

[gray grove]

im level 89 and im ashamed of my self im most of the time extremly shy to ask ppl for helpp i want to make good decisions by my own but its sooo impossible

[atomic abyss]

No
You should really max limit break Lion asap

[viscid swift]

Level 89 is honestly nothing in AL

That's still practically new

[sinful escarp]

commander levels only exist to timegate players from progressing for a bit

[atomic abyss]

Level doesn't really tell us how far you pushed content wise
Your progress content wise is how we gauge how new you are

[gray grove]

i feel like i can never understand the game its so frustrating , cuz even with the help i get from the lovely ppl here i just i still cant really make fleet by my own

[severe tinsel]

So I just focus on the fleet I have now and don't touch the event shop UR ship in my dock.

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[viscid swift]

I mean most people never quite get it

[sinful escarp]

i am lvl136, cleared w15 and still ask here because i dont know a lot of the technicalities of the game

[viscid swift]

We still have plenty of help threads for W15 after all

[gray grove]

this just shows the community is great , im glad i picked the game

[viscid swift]

And I wouldn't even say I remotely come close to understanding all the intricacies of this game

[meager tiger]

no brain, only booba

[atomic abyss]

Right

Please degen elsewhere

[gray grove]

imma be honest , the gameplay is great , all these ppl who talk sht and discouraged me from playing all this time are stupid

[twilit crow]

mori i got another plygun print whohooo

[gray grove]

i wish in the future we get an update to make the game a little easier to understand gearing wise

[sinful escarp]

and there is a story if you get passed the booba

[meager tiger]

full stop, gameplay gets repetitive after a while

this is a waifu collection game disguised as a shoot em up game, but its still fun

[atomic abyss]

It's already become way easier to understand...

[viscid swift]

That won't ever happen

[gray grove]

hey i dont mind it , seeing the current game mode where u fuse balls together , thats just the greatest mini game i ever played from any gacha

[atomic abyss]

That's a rip off of an actual game

Called Suika

[gray grove]

yeaa i know but honestly i wouldnt have played the actual game anyway

[meager tiger]

could be worse, genshit just released a new clash of clans event

[atomic abyss]

Which is known for being... Positively infuriating once you get to a certain point

[wind hazel]

wait until you hear about nikke's minigames

[gray grove]

i reached 23k points someeehow and never been able to top my top score

so after the maint we getting the collabs right away right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[wind oxide]

Never played minigames in nikke
just too boring

[sharp echo]

Into the mirror

[polar lion]

Ryza collab when?

[full plank]

i got 1 lion, do i pull for a second one?

[atomic abyss]

No, save up instead

[atomic abyss]

"This year"

[sinful escarp]

how much more till pity?

[full plank]

aight
any specific upcoming banner or pull on any new event ones?

[wind oxide]

wouldnt pulling for copies be better?

[atomic abyss]

Never lol
What if it stops you from getting another UR

[atomic abyss]

Save for Bismarck 2 rerun

Stick to light build pulls until then

[polar lion]

Aight I thot we gonna get them very soon coz of cheekys name

[atomic abyss]

There's no confirmation

[sharp echo]

This game have universal limit break ship. Use that instead of pulling another

[atomic abyss]

Hence why the "probly" at the end

[full plank]

once a day right?

[sharp echo]

Don't forgot to do daily hard stage and buy UR bullin in shop cost 4000

[full plank]

and lastly should i get any META ships?

[wind oxide]

I mean that would take way longer and also there's reruns and more new UR's coming up

[atomic abyss]

Yes once a day
Not a high priority but you can start working on them

[full plank]

aight ty a lot

give this man a woman with a Barghest build irl

🙏

[viscid swift]

You can get 34-38 UR bullins a year which is enough for 8-9 URs a year which is enough for all the new URs a year plus most of the reruns

[full plank]

Nice!

[sharp echo]

Since I picked light wishing, I got alot of new blue ship. My dock slot

[meager zephyr]

what does fastloader and flagship/nonflagship