gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

81 or 96

No
I hope you realise you're getting an exp penalty too

[hollow gust]

Please don't ignore it , it's there for a reason

[gray grove]

Wym

[hushed sorrel]

i dont know

[tame jungle]

ships with low morale will not only get a 50% xp penalty but also lose affinity

[atomic abyss]

If you use your ships while exhausted
They get an exp penalty of 50%, lose affinity and thus lose stats

[gray grove]

So when they are fully restored then the xp plenty is lifted?

[gray grove]

Oh then i dont see an issue as long as i farm the event

[atomic abyss]

Yes, so strongly recommended to get her Aug if using her

[atomic abyss]

Penalty yes, affinity no

[hollow gust]

You don't want to lose affinity

[atomic abyss]

You have to work back for whatever affinity (and thus stats) you lost

[gray grove]

I cant get it back up?

[tame jungle]

you gain affinity MUCH slower than you lose it

[crimson glacier]

you can

[atomic abyss]

It's much harder to increase it than decrease it

[crimson glacier]

but it takes 1 fight to lose 1 affinity, and 8-16 to get one affinity back

[gray grove]

Whats affinity for

[tame jungle]

stats

[atomic abyss]

Stats, amongst other things

[gray grove]

I see thats a problem then

[atomic abyss]

Stats that could, you know
Stop you from clearing the map?

[tame jungle]

also allows you to oath and will make your girls not hate you

[atomic abyss]

Just put the fleet in the dorm

[gray grove]

I was gonna say they are ships i dont care

[atomic abyss]

And use the onsen

[tame jungle]

ah you're playing the game for the gameplay

[crimson glacier]

the game is pretty unplayable anyway when you get spammed with that message

[gray grove]

Its satisfying but hard

[tame jungle]

azur lane hard?

[atomic abyss]

Doesn't really matter
81 or 96 both work

Just not 101

[gray grove]

Yea its so annoying i want to clear the event shop hut it seems that hope is beyond my reach now

[atomic abyss]

The event ends in another week...

[hushed sorrel]

can you not switch to another fleet?

[gray grove]

I dont have good units

[atomic abyss]

The event ends in another week (2)

[gray grove]

Thats still not enough time to clear the event shop

[atomic abyss]

Then don't?

[tame jungle]

maybe it is if you use another fleet

[atomic abyss]

Most people don't

Clearing the entire shop is like

100k?

Definitely more than 70k

[tame jungle]

with eventual extra trafalgar points needed too

[hushed sorrel]

its normal not to clear it. for example the 500 coins for traf are in the end only coins if you buy them. other stuff doesnt help you as well

[gray grove]

Im at like 37k i think

[hushed sorrel]

yes you could farm a bit more

[atomic abyss]

Just make sure you do all the UR voucher missions

So clear boss with x event ship

Play the mini game

[gray grove]

Its just these 2 that make the notification maan i'll replace them

[hushed sorrel]

do you use the event onsen? that helps with moral reg as well

[gray grove]

Yep but i dont remember the ships names that i have on my fleet so i put who i liked to see on a towel

[tame jungle]

come on dawg

[gray grove]

Dude u cant blame me names in this game is so confusing even thr weapons

[tame jungle]

it's manageable man, worst case scenario write it down

[hushed sorrel]

why would i blame you? its yours

[dreamy blade]

weapons yes, but besides some of the russian ships theyre really not

[gray grove]

Z23 isnt weird to u

[tame jungle]

no?

[dreamy blade]

what does being weird have to do with being memorable

[gray grove]

I guess they are ships so it makes sense but im jot used to calling a weoman new Jersey

[hushed sorrel]

you can filter 23 and you will see one ship.

[gray grove]

23?

[tame jungle]

search bar

[hushed sorrel]

23 from z23

[gray grove]

Oh

[tame jungle]

i usually just take a screenshot on formation screen with snipping tool while grinding with 2 fleets so i always know who to put in dorm etc

[gray grove]

Whats the cause for some of my ships to maintain high affinity when they all go to war at the same time

[tame jungle]

they regenerate at different rates depending on dorm slot, marriage status, onsen slot
if they're not in the dorm or onsen they only go up to 119 instead of 150

[gray grove]

I seee

I'll just put 1 op ship with the rest being random with no gear would that work

[tame jungle]

bruh

[gray grove]

I can farm more if the op one loses some affinity i switch her out

[tame jungle]

weak ships with no gear = longer clear times and risk of them dying, which ALSO means lost morale and eventually affinity

[dreamy blade]

it literally takes less than 5min to regain full morale if you just stick them in the dorm+onsen...

[gray grove]

O fuc i also lose affinity when i lose

[tame jungle]

where the fuck did you get this from

[dusty terrace]

Hey, are these meowfficers fine or should I change some of them?

[dreamy blade]

my own eyes?

[gray grove]

I'll try but the limitation is annoying, let me play the game dude

[tame jungle]

5 minutes full morale is literally wrong though

[hushed sorrel]

this is just wrong. even if you gain 60/moral per hour thats around 2,5 hours from 0 to 150

[dreamy blade]

oh im not talking about from 0 morale lol, like if you sortie them starting from full

[gray grove]

Damn

Im a lost cause then , they are lolis anyway idc

[tame jungle]

playing AL for the gameplay and then refusing to interact with any of the mechanics is pretty wild

[hushed sorrel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[left cedar]

its not about cat itself, its more about the talents ... but by type, seens fine ...

[hollow gust]

Well we don't know how good your cats are

[tame jungle]

most important part is that you have 2 high level gold cats in the fleet you tackle mobs with since that seems to directly affect your rewards

[hushed sorrel]

just put that team in your dorm and onsen and your limit is increased by a lot

[gray grove]

So if 2 feeltd went to battle everyone loses affinity? Even if the second fleet doesn't fight?

[hushed sorrel]

only the fighting one

[gray grove]

Alright

[tame jungle]

for every fight a specific fleet does, you lose some morale
everyone loses morale, you only lose affinity if you severely fuck up the management

(i.e. exhaustion screen)

[gray grove]

I forgot where the onsen is

[gray grove]

Im not refusing , the game mechanics are complicated, u need to do soo much for little gameplay which is sad but i respect it

[raw ravine]

yikes was about to delete, thanks

[dreamy blade]

in the villa screen, bottom left

[bright tusk]

Is the shimanto gun good for AA boost in stage with high numbers of aircrafts like w13 and w15? Or seattle gun better?

[gray grove]

thanks , i can fight forever now

DUUDE common maan

this is ruining my day

[dreamy blade]

it can help with AA but it's usually not really worth giving up the dmg of running something like the seattle gun

unless you are trying to run w13 with ships with bad AA for some reason

[bright tusk]

I see, thank you

[paper ore]

just wait a few hours and grind like B3 with some lower lvl ships while morale recovers

with onsen and dorm second floor if you have it, morale should recover from 0 to 150 in 2.5 hours

[hollow quartz]

How far should I awaken my ships? I know URs are probably better to go all the way to 125 but what about other ship like unikai, nelson kai, etc? Is there a specific stopping point?

[sinful escarp]

unikai is good to go for 125

[reef flume]

Uni to 125

[sinful escarp]

its only at the start where you have to ration 125. passed some point you can just do it to the ships you use

[dreamy blade]

most stop at 120 for fleet tech if not going to 125

[hollow gust]

For now just 120 your ships, you really do not need 120 for anything below w14

[hollow quartz]

Gotcha Thank you everyone! I just dont want the xp to go to waste since iirc if your ship is for example locked to lvl100 then the xp caps to lvl105 right?

[dreamy blade]

no

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt cap to a level

[hollow quartz]

Oh so it just stays there till you awaken the ship?!

[dreamy blade]

you can leave a ship at 100 and it will still accumulate exp yes

[crimson glacier]

it caps to 3m exp i believe, which should be slightly past 115

[wind hazel]

3m is past 120 for non UR ships

[crimson glacier]

damn i live in the UR city

[hollow quartz]

Oh thats pretty good! I dont know why I thought it caps

[crimson glacier]

and i have fallen in river please help me

[wind hazel]

actually it's past 120 for UR too lol

[crimson glacier]

alright i guess im just insane

[solemn needle]

how do I get materials for gear lab

[dreamy blade]

operation siren

[solemn needle]

o

[normal cedar]

I've only heard about bidder till now, but samheart seems to say the g7e is better?

[wind hazel]

g7e has strict rld requirement to be better

[dreamy blade]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/SubReload

[wind hazel]

or something

[normal cedar]

i see, got it
it tells me to calculate the rld but since pretty much everyone uses the same subs, do you know if running snorkel + hull design on wolfpack can give enough rld to use g7e? without the best cats or oath

[dreamy blade]

i dunno, but going off the chart 81 and 96 require "maximum investment" so i assume they cannot, but 37 can maybe?

[meager zephyr]

what do i do when i have 25k oil and my capacity is 3.85k and i cant claim anything anymore

[dreamy blade]

spend oil, ignore the canteen oil until you can claim

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks
its fine to use mixed g7e and bidders? or all sub ships need to have the same for sync

[wind hazel]

i just use all bidder and turn off my brain regarding sub

[boreal wagon]

you use your oil by sortieing or if you have absolutely no time for that you can start the 1200 oil commission or buy curry in the dorm

[dreamy blade]

it's fine until you have more bidders, i have no idea how that affects the reloads but it doesnt really matter

[whole crypt]

just use G7e in slot 1 you'll be fine

[normal cedar]

for all 3?

[whole crypt]

which subs

[normal cedar]

37,81,96

[whole crypt]

assuming you're short on rld for double g7e loadouts it's the second slot that gets the least time to finish or shorted otherwise

slot 1 is less affected

if you use bidder in slot 1 then you're jamming up the reload time from preloads

[normal cedar]

I see, so for 81,96 g7e in slot 1 and bidder in slot 2 is better than dual bidders?
37 can run dual g7e on base rld so no prob for her ig

[whole crypt]

if you can dual bidder just dual bidder

[normal cedar]

got it, thanks

[honest sequoia]

a wise man here told me to stay at lv65 til i get 6 bidders

[whole crypt]

works

[wheat ore]

who is more worth to get?

[tame jungle]

most likely shinano

[honest sequoia]

what if i have both

[wheat ore]

ah okay, you can get new jersey in the perma UR pool right?

[tame jungle]

yes but don't bother

[dreamy blade]

they are both there

[tame jungle]

just select shinano until you have her max limit broken

[whole crypt]

both ships are perm URs
you shouldn't pull for either regardless
they're not useful before MLB
Shinano is better in the long run but just don't think too much about it for now, you also don't have to use the invite item right away

[wheat ore]

oh i should just keep the invitation letter?

[sturdy sinew]

What is the best way to coin a PR ship? And how much will it take

[whole crypt]

personally I'd say hold on to the invite if you're not ready to actually raise and LB a UR now

[wheat ore]

oh...i used it already lmfao

i guess it's not the end of the world

[whole crypt]

no real harm

[whole crypt]

usually up to 10 a day, the last 5 discount prints are much lower discounts

[wheat ore]

what is the % that you would say is not worth it? like 50%?

[whole crypt]

it depends on how you're doing with coins really

[late flame]

depends on how much you wanna grind as well

[sturdy sinew]

Are they useable before dev30?

[whole crypt]

Depends™️ but most research ships want to be 30 before you actually use them where it matters

you can "use" them for leveling and affinity much earlier if it's just dragging along in ch12 or something

[sturdy sinew]

How much will it take to reach dev30? 2-3 months?

[wind hazel]

PR DR

[upper jay]

what is this

[wind hazel]

there are titles on the pic...

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#Enhancing_with_Coins

[warped acorn]

what are those ship type

[late flame]

pirates aka Tempesta

[primal silo]

tempesta ships
sailing ships

[warped acorn]

oh damn

[sturdy sinew]

The numbers in the line represent the BP?

[late flame]

#gameplay-help message

[sturdy sinew]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

is aug balt still < 1 port?

[severe tinsel]

sometime i wonder, what make a ship better than other, when both gave tons of special barrage or skill that are quite similar to each other. what make them better than one another? i don't see spesific number and explaination on their skill description. and what kind of equipment work better than other and why?
like why sandy barrage is good, while cleopatra is garbage? they have about the same barrage activation rate
does it have hidden stat or something? is it the shape of the barrage?
i'm new btw, im a bit confused how to compare stuff is good or not.

[sinful escarp]

barrage dmg, barrage pattern, buff when they fire barrage etc

[severe tinsel]

where can i see those number?

how to compare? how to tell the difference? without actually using it?

[undone plover]

All of those things yes
Stats
Skills
Barrages
And their role in the current meta
All of that determines what is good or not

[fallen jay]

Are you able to give multiple promise rings?

[sinful escarp]

give to multiple ships yes

[undone plover]

Here
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[fallen jay]

What does giving them do?

[severe tinsel]

thanks

[sinful escarp]

oath skin for some ships and a small boost in stats at 200 affection

oathing for stats is not really good

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity
additional rings will cost you gems

besides maybe 1 free each year from anniversary

[severe tinsel]

btw what is gems better use for?

[inner delta]

dock space, 2nd floor of dorm

[undone plover]

There is a gem command

Check it out in #bot-spam
I think it is /gems

[warped acorn]

is this good

[wary skiff]

best options for nakhimov w/ no soyuz? rn im raising chkalov but i use kazan with currently

[undone plover]

Nope
But if it is the only gold AA u have then use it

[undone plover]

Tashkent/voroshilov

[warped acorn]

oh

[warped acorn]

and quadruple 40mm bofors yellow?

[wary skiff]

is chkalov the best option once raised or still tashkent / voro?

[undone plover]

That is better yes
Use it if u have it
Generally u use quad bofor for transitional AA
Twin90/roomba(twin113) for end game poverty
And the american UR 76mm for end game rich ppl

[hallow mountain]

is there an updated tier list?

[undone plover]

Backline can use STAAG

[hallow mountain]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb
Been a while since this one was updated

[undone plover]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[warped acorn]

oh

[undone plover]

First link is aimed at end game content
The CN list is also a thing but I havent checked it so idk

[severe tinsel]

where can i read what kind of weapon and gear are good for what kind of ship and explaination of it?

[undone plover]

The second link is what u had already

[undone plover]

/equip
U can check this for what is good
If u want to know WHY they are good then ask here

[hallow mountain]

eyy thanks

[undone plover]

Do this command in #bot-spam @severe tinsel
/equip

[severe tinsel]

ok thanks

[drowsy warren]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[drowsy warren]

/guild

/help

[odd root]

📥 | The list of commands you have access to has been sent to your DMs.

[wind hazel]

[ripe sparrow]

how do you gear up Lion? its been a while since i last played

[wind hazel]

same as other bb

[ripe sparrow]

my gears are from 2 years ago so im mot sure how it changd lol

[tame jungle]

can check first link of this

[turbid marsh]

not much has changed tbh anyways, lion's own gun for light, standard champ gun won't go wrong for heavy...

[ripe sparrow]

well for now this is my build, while im farming for her gun

how do you farm more of these again?

[tame jungle]

looks ok, can switch the augment to the other BB one

also prioritize the secondary for frontliners if needed

[tame jungle]

these can be crafted in gear lab now, however just doing research academy should give you a bunch of prints for this

[ripe sparrow]

btw is Lion a bossing BB or for mobbing?

[tame jungle]

she is excellent at both

[ripe sparrow]

hmm i see

[meager zephyr]

can someone send the "Ectl" i cant find it for some reason my google is weird

[hollow gust]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/
just search Azur lane tierlist , its like the first one

[turbid marsh]

it also has potential c1/c3 opsi farm potential, replacing luna XD but thats irrelavant to most people anyways

[ripe sparrow]

alright thank you

[orchid scarab]

Chat is Trafalgar good

Android is freaky as hell

[inland shoal]

Pls don't use unnecessarily large emotes

[orchid scarab]

sorry

😔👍

[hasty night]

Is there a website for checking out a ships BiS gear? The old one seems to be outdated

[tame jungle]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[inland shoal]

Anyway Trafalgar is pretty good ofc, she's a UR. She's not a dps beast though

[tame jungle]

first link is your best bet

[orchid scarab]

thx thx

[hasty night]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[pseudo hearth]

Which plane is that in the upcoming gear lab update? The photo is a little blurry so I can't tell.

[inland shoal]

Isn't that just Breguet?

[boreal wagon]

it looks ever so slightly diff from breg, its prolly one of the new planes

[tame jungle]

breguet has 2 engines

[small mountain]

That's a new Dive bomber

[pseudo hearth]

Do we know which?

[boreal wagon]

LN.401

[pseudo hearth]

InB4 worse than Helldivers

[tame jungle]

better wait and see then instead of speculating

[pseudo hearth]

Oh, I'm not, just jesting

It's probably just going to be the Torp and the plane in this next update, right?

[tame jungle]

wait and see

[boreal wagon]

i mean they announced them all in the patch notes that are in #game-news

[tame jungle]

read and see

[forest palm]

not like they didn't show them on stream as well

[jaunty vault]

:ENHands:

[pseudo hearth]

I know that's there, that's the only mention of them we got, which is why I'm asking.

[boreal wagon]

the patch notes mentions all the itermediate gear as well tho

but as far as SR and UR goes only those 2 + a DD gun yes (and some torp goes to gear lab which is actually just breg but EN apparently likes to call torp bombers just torp)

[forest palm]

right we're geting the 610...so uesless I forgot about it

[wheat ore]

does playing op si affect morale?

[dreamy blade]

no

[iron meteor]

what are the best things to buy here

[tame jungle]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[meager zephyr]

what ship types or equipment do i need to kill subs the fast escort fleets and planes

also why is there a SR Unicorn but i only got Elite is there like a tier upgrade or sum

is Laffey II the ultra Laffey elite's retrofit

[sinful escarp]

that is the retrofited unicorn, retrofit increases the ships rarity and upgrades most ships

laffey 2 is a different ship from the normal lafey

[meager zephyr]

oh dang alr so what retrofits as a starter should i work on early

[sinful escarp]

laffey has her own retrofit but its different from the UR version

unicorn>portland>your starter (im guessing laffey in your case)

[meager zephyr]

i also got long island portland glowworm exeter juneau shropshire hyuuga suffolk shouhou tho, i dont remember my starter but im pretty sure its long island

[sinful escarp]

the starter is the Destroyer ship you chose

[meager zephyr]

ohh so it really is laffey

ok tysm

[sinful escarp]

basically your starter fleet will be: pennsylvania, unicorn, someone you got: portland, starter, helena

also pull on the event banner for lion
she is a very good ship

[river junco]

is there an estimate on when la9 prints will be added to the prototype shop? (based off previous years)

[spring mesa]

should be Jan 2026?

[woven star]

Do we have new Beginner Rewards page on wiki?

[sinful escarp]

not sure about wiki, but its pinned here

[sharp echo]

must buy san diego?

[tame jungle]

generally most useful out of these yeah

[random rain]

hello. can the budget boss fleet (fdg/haku/enty;ibuki/jeanne/agir) in suchiguma's W14 guide manage auto? Or do I need to decrease the danger level to safe first?

[opaque gate]

is kronshtadt good? or is she out of meta

[whole crypt]

all guides are written based on auto, as for whether it'll manage on lethal is probably not very reliably

[turbid marsh]

out of meta doesn't mean shes bad. shes still usable for current meta, but because need UR bulins to mlb, she is one of the lowest prioritiy for giving resources as an UR.

[opaque gate]

okii thanks

[random rain]

okay, I'll just whittle it down until it's safe, thanks!

[opaque gate]

one more, are CVs generally better against heavy, while BB for light/medium? cuz i wann a make op siren fleets for boss fights

[whole crypt]

depends on the specific ships and whether you have the appropriate gear

[opaque gate]

okok cuz i plan to put musashi/nagato, amagi and shinano in one fleet. so i was wondering whether i will build them anti heavy or light or med

[fallen jay]

How is Greenville Meta?

[solar lily]

only for tech point/collection for the most part

[woven star]

I'm asking cos interesting what's a value of retrofitting beginner dds now? Nothing mention about these in rookie tasks

[tame jungle]

is she the cruise pass one? probably quite shit then

[fallen jay]

So I shouldn’t be limitbreak breaking her?

[sinful escarp]

Ohh yeah, deym i forgot about that. Still getting used to new missions

[fallen jay]

So Rose on high tower ends on the 18th right?

[woven star]

I checked now and nothing about Laffy or z23... so

[turbid marsh]

purple meta = mostly bad

[sinful escarp]

Then aside from just because, i dont think there is much point

[river junco]

11th i think

[sinful escarp]

Some purple meta have good tech, not sure about greenvile though

[fallen jay]

Alright so for the event and gear what can I do to speed up getting more stuff?

[woven star]

I agree with Unicorn and Portland but other dds become low priority

[turbid marsh]

its a dd, most likely low priority even if its fp

[fallen jay]

So I have a week to get one copy of Tal?

[river junco]

7 days yup (8 including today)

[dreamy blade]

pretty sure gren meta is just eva

[turbid marsh]

yeah its eva lol, one of the lowest priority i think

[woven star]

Her stats pretty meh

[sinful escarp]

You have enough time to get trafalgar, if you do the event minigame and quests

[fallen jay]

So I need to book it in the event…that’s gonna be difficult still haven’t finished P2

[turbid marsh]

omg i totally forgot about minigame

[fallen jay]

There’s a mini game? Where and how do I access it? Is it faster than the basic mission grind?

[sinful escarp]

Even the mission, they dont have to survive the battle, just be in the boss fleet

[turbid marsh]

its literally 15 each minigame, so 15x7, nooooo i overspent oil...

[fallen jay]

What?

[river junco]

mini game is unlocked after you build the stuff in the resort

[woven star]

Her skill with 12 stacks sounds interesting but other things. I think she has low dmg

[sinful escarp]

Complete the resort

[sinful escarp]

Bring X ship to B3/D3

[woven star]

Btw B2 seems harder than B3. My low cost fleet always died on boss every time

[opaque gate]

is hms fleet viable now? we have trafalgar and lion now

[woven star]

Lion - yes. Trafalgar more specific

[opaque gate]

oke ill try to find hms that synergize really well, thanks

[woven star]

Implacable, Lion, Vanguard + Trafalgar- sound more fun rather than optimal

[solar lily]

traff and lion do go hand in hand to be fair

[woven star]

Forgot about Plymouth

[solar lily]

what does Plymouth do again

[turbid marsh]

there was this video where 5 hms + z52 one shotted hornetmeta XD, and its warspite + qe XD

[woven star]

Bbs support

[solar lily]

oh

[woven star]

Ah and Drake - full stack

[turbid marsh]

flagship 18% more damage if i remembered correctly

[woven star]

6 UR HMS in a game

[river junco]

if vanguard was a vanguard ship, we'd have a full fleet

[solar lily]

BB in vanguard position sounds fun

[river junco]

also works as off tank

[turbid marsh]

just drake it XD

[solar lily]

ply can tank?

[turbid marsh]

ply is quite tanky for a cl, so yes, for most meta boss.

[river junco]

right, forgot she was a ship cause i still didn't get her

[serene moth]

traf, laffey 2 or mogador, who should i mlb max first

[turbid marsh]

what, you gonna use warspite?

[atomic abyss]

Well not tank tank
She can certainly tank on some weaker dmg bosses

[solar lily]

interesting

[atomic abyss]

Probably laffey, but let's see what frontline URs you have

[opaque gate]

is queeen elizabeth worth mentioning for hms fleet?

[tame jungle]

lmfao no

[serene moth]

so vanguards?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[opaque gate]

ok lol

[atomic abyss]

Her buffs are good but she's extremely bad herself

That's the issue with most faction buffers

[opaque gate]

does it apply to nagato?

[hollow gust]

yes

[tame jungle]

yes, it also applies to nagato

[river junco]

nagato is just really powercrept, her barrage doesn't always activate

[atomic abyss]

To a less extent
Still true regardless

[serene moth]

i have ägir, kron, guam, brest 25, ply 25. thats about it.

[opaque gate]

i see, maybe if her barrage has a higher chance then she could be good

[atomic abyss]

Her barrage is good yes
But yeah proc is 💩

[hollow gust]

even if it is higher proc rate using her is still a waste of time

[atomic abyss]

Is everything else MLB here?
Are your backliners all MLB?

[serene moth]

ye guam and kron are mlb to max, the only non mlb backliner is new jersey

[turbid marsh]

oof, no z52. i wanna say traf tbh... unless interested in ex and pvp for laffey2 XD cause it looks like lion is ready to be used

[atomic abyss]

I would say Laff2 then
Or save the bulins for bis2 if you don't have her yet

[sturdy badger]

Ayo, Plymouth for Boss or Mobs?

[turbid marsh]

campaign?

[sturdy badger]

Anything, really. But if ur asking what cmpgn I'm in, currently W13.

[turbid marsh]

shes good for both tbh, but right now campaign has alot of better suitable ships, so depends on what you have. but she's not a wrong answer to go. opsi bb fleet (boss) preferred.

[iron meteor]

what ur should i max next?

[sturdy badger]

Noted. Oh, boi. It's been a long time since I do OpSi

[olive grotto]

How do I get more of the Winged Lion's Crest UR Vouchers? Those are one of the event credits. I see you can buy them in the shop, but I also somehow have 20, even though I haven't bought any

[slender turtle]

I think im all good to do w14 now, anyone down to help me build the 2 fleets ill use?

[turbid marsh]

if lion is in the options, go for lion. highest priority right now, in my opinion.

[iron meteor]

ight thank you

[viscid swift]

sure

[rapid grail]

can make thread for that

[iron meteor]

how do you guys manage your dock space do you keep ur blues and greys? like 1 copy or dont keep any

[slender turtle]

W14 fleets

[rapid grail]

enhance your ships with greys
retire the extra golds, purples and blues for medals

[iron meteor]

i meant like

do you lock a copy of blue and grey or get rid of them?

[viscid swift]

I keep one copy of every ship

[iron meteor]

ight i thought u guys dont bother with commons

[rapid grail]

Only if you're planning on raising them to lvl 120 for the fleet/faction techs
Otherwise they're enhance fodder

[viscid swift]

Quite a few of them give good tech

[primal silo]

if you don't have dock space, I suggest not to keep

they're easy to get if you want them anyways

[iron meteor]

oki ty guys

[silk helm]

new UR being added to gear lab? is it good?

[atomic abyss]

It's not new

It literally says "existing gear"

[silk helm]

is good ornah

[atomic abyss]

It's not a mag torp

So not relevant

[silk helm]

👍🏻

[atomic abyss]

I guess if you want to manual nuke

[rapid grail]

EX gamers with shima torps + oxytorp + magtorp

[silk helm]

ive never played manual before

[rapid grail]

imo keep the option open. But don't craft it yet

[silk helm]

i have not crafted a ur torp from gear lab yet

feels like a waste of UR selectors

[stark quiver]

Probably never need to

[rapid grail]

yeah, not much incentive to craft any of the ur torps in gear lab.

Says the EX tryhard

[silk helm]

is there an ex video for this event anywhere?

[stark quiver]

Go to content hub

I dislike ex gaming, itz for the nerdz

[atomic abyss]

#media-content

[rapid grail]

theres homework there that u can copy from

[whole crypt]

I've not touched EX hard ever since they added this format

[gray grove]

Why she suddenly gained alot of levels even tho i just limit break her level from 115 to 120

[turbid marsh]

probably you have stored exp

[gray grove]

Thats a thing

[turbid marsh]

yes, when it reaches lv100 and mlb, it will begin store exp as it goes to combat and stuff, so exp wont go to waste if you don't limit break

[gray grove]

Thats cool asfff

[whole crypt]

the condition is just lv100 on JP/EN because it only applies to rainbows, research and META

from 100 on a ship can stock up to 3M XP until you awaken them to the next cap

the MLB condition does exist on CN but that's for regular ships, because they can get to 100 without LB

and it's not combat "and stuff", it's only combat XP

[prisma mantle]

who mostly use this gun

[carmine heath]

is z46 (w/aug) useable in opsi bossing?

[sacred parrot]

Where do I put Anchorage

[deep thicket]

Is there any reason to have more than one copy of UR characters beyond the ones you already have built?

[wind hazel]

not a good pick

[sweet delta]

If anchorage is leveled appropriately, replace Heinrich and Heinrich replaced adalbert

[wind hazel]

for skin

[vernal osprey]

I know this might be old news now...but what is this? What type of skin projection is this like what does it do?

[sweet delta]

It's not who but when. And when is against light armor

[prisma mantle]

bis vs light armor?

[deep thicket]

Like for UR bullin skin? I have every UR character in the game. However I do have some excess copies. Should I disassemble or is there any reason to fully build a second copy of these ships?

[vernal osprey]

Does anyone know what the skin projection is like for any of the shipgirl?

[wind hazel]

no you can retire them if you have dockspace issue lol. i retire mine

some people raise different UR, like different RLD Soyuz, oath and unoathed ship, etc.

if you have no intention to do so, just retire

[deep thicket]

Will do, thank you for the help.

[wind hazel]

check the pin

[vernal osprey]

I found out, it's literally just let you have more skins for the character...aka having her in more skins in secretary like this...

200 gems for another 2 slots wtf 😭

[fierce lantern]

what do i do i have no oil

[viscid swift]

just wait

[agile furnace]

how does the new UR gun compare to a Mk7?

[grizzled wave]

should i get 6crh ap shell for lion? or stick with white?

[atomic abyss]

Better

[atomic abyss]

Just stick with white
There's better uses of your core than a maximum of 1% improvement

[grizzled wave]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1376990692450242684

any ideas who i should mlb next for end game and opsi arbiter?

[plain saffron]

Event ends tomorrow?

[atomic abyss]

Anni event lasts 3 weeks so no

[sacred parrot]

Between, Amagi cv, Raffaello, and Lion. Who should I prioritize MLB for my fleets

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[atomic abyss]

How many UR bulins

[rigid onyx]

This is kind of dumb but do 30m H researches drop ur gear

[atomic abyss]

Do you have any other UR carriers max limit broken?

[sacred parrot]

None (1)

[atomic abyss]

Then come back and ask when you have 4

[atomic abyss]

Cos there's no point partially limit breaking one
Either all in or none at all

For all you know you'll have more alternatives by the time you come back with 4

Wrong place

Not relevant to gameplay

Maybe share in #al-general or sth

[bold girder]

which one should I choose

[tame jungle]

shinano

[bold girder]

oky thx

[river sedge]

Is there a need to 3 star SP Event Stage?
By that I mean clear all the enemies

[tame jungle]

well it's physically impossible so

[river sedge]

How so, I cleared all the left side and it's the right side and the boss left

[tame jungle]

the 3* system is not active on SP

[river sedge]

Oh then I can just clear the boss then?

[tame jungle]

yup

[boreal merlin]

Anyone got a list of best general equipment to farm? (Not Aux)

[tame jungle]

you don't farm equipment from stages

[prisma mantle]

i forgot but does this also gives more event coins

[tame jungle]

this functionally doubles everything in a clear

that includes the rewards

the only thing that it doesn't double is "clear stage x amount of times"

[prisma mantle]

i see thanks a lot

[gray grove]

Why error man

[quasi nymph]

what are the simple ways to farm affinity ?

[viscid swift]

desync, log out and back in again

[viscid swift]

really the only way is to grind

[quasi nymph]

is this gun still the best budget option for cruisers and dds ?

wrong ping mb

[prisma mantle]

i noticed two new ddgs, were they better than chang chun and anshan, and by how much

[wind hazel]

not what i would consider a budget option, and also not the best gold gun either

[atomic abyss]

It's not even a "budget" option

[turbid marsh]

taiyuan best for solo, but not THAT much different though......

[atomic abyss]

The only way to get this without farming old events is from gear lab

And at that point the gold twin 128 is better

[quasi nymph]

from which memory can i farm that gun ?

[wind hazel]

craft from gear lab, it's cheap

[quasi nymph]

cause i do have a lot of oil reserves

[atomic abyss]

It goes like this
Tai Yuan > Fu Shun > An Shan ,> Chang Chun

[quasi nymph]

i dont play opsi much

[prisma mantle]

where they better that am I better off building them

[wind hazel]

did you do your PR5 research? can craft harbin gun

[atomic abyss]

You don't, it's a complete waste of oil
Spend the time grinding opsi instead of just war archives

[turbid marsh]

then time to farm opsi with that oil reserve. 5000 to open, and then just auto

[wind hazel]

otherwise stick to purple gun...

[viscid swift]

we haven't used the DDGs for much of anything

you'd build them in case we have a use for a high damage vanguard against light but

[atomic abyss]

They are the gods of 1:1 farming tho

[viscid swift]

that hasn't materialized much yet

[prisma mantle]

i see, i guess skip them for now

[atomic abyss]

Well they are pretty much the best non UR DD

I would consider at least raising one of them lol

Especially for hard mode requirements

[quasi nymph]

even better then kawakaze and kazagumo ?

[prisma mantle]

i already built chang chun and anshan, I used harbin + 2ddgs backs then a lot

[atomic abyss]

Kaza isn't a DPS so doesn't count
Definitely better than Kawa and it isn't even close

[turbid marsh]

the hell is kawakaze doing here in the discussion lol XD

[atomic abyss]

Oh she's high up tho

[wind hazel]

non UR DD

[quasi nymph]

i thought she got buffed right ?

[atomic abyss]

Kawa with aug is high up on the DD DPS charts lol

[turbid marsh]

but we are talking about best of the best gold dds though. shes very good ofc

[atomic abyss]

I think she's probably like, top 10 for DD DPS?

[wind hazel]

ngl but i havent found any practical use for the other 3 DDG. anshan was all i ever used

[quasi nymph]

is there any starter dd under the top 10 ?

[cobalt rapids]

anshan my fav SP clearer

[forest palm]

I haven't found a particular use for any of the 4 DDG tbh

[atomic abyss]

Top 30 or 40 maybe

[prisma mantle]

do we know the possible next ur rerun?

[atomic abyss]

Starters are a joke in comparison

[quasi nymph]

does that mean the chang chun is worse ?

[atomic abyss]

^

[wind hazel]

marginally worse

[forest palm]

Chang Chun is the worst Soloist of the 4

[wind hazel]

in practice you wont see the difference at all

[atomic abyss]

Tai Yuan just needs full vanguard to reach maximum potential
But her base DPS is already higher than AS and CC without a full team

Fu Shun is the strongest solo marginally

[quasi nymph]

i just retrofitted hit cause she was cuter

[forest palm]

that's fine can't really go wrong with any of the DDG tbh

[atomic abyss]

Next UR rerun is bis2

[prisma mantle]

damn i already have zwei, is Trafalgar a good UR havent touched her yet, whats her use

[atomic abyss]

Enemy debuffer with a side of AA

[turbid marsh]

makes your lion even more broken XD

[atomic abyss]

She's not as cracked as a certain other UR DD tho

[prisma mantle]

i think i missed z52 mogador and eldrige

[wind hazel]

ripbozo

[turbid marsh]

dang

[atomic abyss]

Z52 hurts
Eld at least will have her item rerun

[prisma mantle]

damn i see how about cvs? i missed amagi and fritz

[turbid marsh]

amagi is well meh, fritz...

[atomic abyss]

Wat

[quasi nymph]

amagi cv ?

[atomic abyss]

Amagi is the best anti heavy CV

Also does really well on med if you lack soy nakh

[prisma mantle]

who is gone in hakunano?

[turbid marsh]

yeah but doesn't hurt that much though, lion fleets should be able to handle most contents now

[atomic abyss]

Rumey is probably the best campaign BB after unicorn
Also does really well for bossing

[atomic abyss]

Haku

[quasi nymph]

is she a buffer ?

[turbid marsh]

fritz on the other hand is really sad to miss, best support fleet, best medium, can go with a lot of things

[atomic abyss]

No, she has a shit ton of fighters

[fallen jay]

Is Takao and Prinz Eugen good?

[atomic abyss]

That's a very silly argument lol
Lion alone isn't gonna make BB comps compete with CV comps lol, especially against heavy

[atomic abyss]

No

[quasi nymph]

they were powercrept even in 2020

as far as i remember

[fallen jay]

Are they good for beginners?

[atomic abyss]

Horrible

[prisma mantle]

how bout for bbs? i dont have alsace vg and sashi

[atomic abyss]

At this point you shd just read the end game tierlist

[fallen jay]

Drat. Well good news is that I’ve made it to P2 the 3rd mission on the board

[atomic abyss]

Alsace is probably the 3rd best bossing BB
The other 2 being Lion and Bis2

[fallen jay]

So I’m slowly grinding my way to having Tal join me

[atomic abyss]

Musashi is the best campaign BB

[light trail]

is TY even worth retro if i have the other 3 retro and don't exactly feel like spending 1000 special cores or is she actually Great Value

[prisma mantle]

damn i was only gone for a year i didnt know they released that much URs

[turbid marsh]

lemme check, cause last time i checked lion fleets only lose to amagi soy nakh by a little, and thrive in light/medium

[atomic abyss]

Amagi is best for heavy tho

Why compare with Soy Nakh

Which is the clear best anti med

[fallen jay]

Who do I replace with Tal once I get her?

[atomic abyss]

Who's tal?

Trafalgar?
No one
Not limit broken

[fallen jay]

The girl from the event rose tower

When she is though. Who would she replace?

[atomic abyss]

That depends

We don't know what your fleet will be by the time you get to that point

It'll be July at earliest when you max limit break her

Cos Lion and Bis2 would take higher priority

[fallen jay]

I’ve gotten neither of them

[atomic abyss]

Then continue rolling for Lion

[fallen jay]

But I do have 40/200 pulls there so I might be able to squeak out a pity

[atomic abyss]

Bis 2 won't come immediately

[fallen jay]

Before the event ends. When does it end?

[atomic abyss]

Next Thursday reset

[fallen jay]

So 8 days to get her

[turbid marsh]

cause i remember seeing lion bisz fritz / lion soy nakh / lion alsace bisz (fritz+soynakh)for light+medium, they are not that much different.

[atomic abyss]

Sigh

[turbid marsh]

and then lion + soy nakh for heavy as well

[atomic abyss]

The competition for Soy Nakh 3rd slot is between Rumey and Lion for med

And even that hasn't proven to be conclusive

Why would you even use Soy Nakh for heavy tho

[turbid marsh]

then again i remember seeing something about centaur being in heavy with lion + implaca , can't remember where I saw that

[atomic abyss]

Amagi CV has Sakura ship torp buffs

So anti heavy is her best place

She also wants ships like shinano as a result, who also shine on heavy

[fallen jay]

I’m guessing all these cool girls are URs?

[atomic abyss]

You wouldn't use Amagi UR without Shinano or Haku in any serious boss comp unless you flat out didn't have them

Or yes, the original anti med with soy and nakh before we got Rumey

[rigid onyx]

was decent in hornet meta because she was able to 4 strike with la-9s, no impla

[fallen jay]

Should I use a purple bulin to limit break Saratoga once?

[atomic abyss]

Not all

[atomic abyss]

All the way

[fallen jay]

All of them?

[atomic abyss]

She's low rarity so she's much easier to limit break

That's the whole point of using her lol

[sweet delta]

I remembered seeing someone use amagi without Shinano or haku seriously in endgame content

[tame jungle]

always limit break the ships you're using all the way

[turbid marsh]

ah, i think its in one of those funny bilibili videos, that i remembered.

[atomic abyss]

She's a very easy to limit break ship

[quasi nymph]

wtf is that helena ?

[atomic abyss]

The damage speaks for itself

It's some EX comp

[sweet delta]

BRB let me ask about amagi gear

[atomic abyss]

Like suchi

Is the amagi there just to buff Shima?

The Shima did almost as much as Amagi

[quasi nymph]

is it jintsuu retro or meta ?

[atomic abyss]

That's almost certainly under geared

[rigid onyx]

meta

[turbid marsh]

maybe im too focused on meta fights, rather than actual endgame meta focusing on different armour.

[atomic abyss]

Meta
No one used Jintsuu Kai since like, 2019

[quasi nymph]

are meta ships really that good ?

[atomic abyss]

Amagi UR was the best for taihou and nagato though...?

[rigid onyx]

jintsuu meta is specifically good for ex comps and pvp

[atomic abyss]

Most of the gold ones are just "good" at best
Jintsuu meta is one of the exceptions who is really good

[quasi nymph]

so what are the exceptions that i should look out for

[turbid marsh]

oh i agree with that, but with lion appearing, maybe that will change until they come back. they only added what, kirov meta in like a week?

[atomic abyss]

JintsuuM

That's about it

The rest of the notable ones are still limited

[rigid onyx]

her desperado torps are very strong so a fast fight with ships dying (aka pvp and high score ex ) she's top-tier

[fallen jay]

Man I can’t wait to finally start getting URs…wait so my pulls for Lion also contribute to the pity pull for New Jersey?

[atomic abyss]

No

[rigid onyx]

unless something huge changes CVs will not be overthrown for heavy bosses

[atomic abyss]

Limited UR event pulls only contribute to the limited UR pity

[quasi nymph]

i dont think new jersey is even that good anymore

[atomic abyss]

No it wouldn't rofl

[fallen jay]

Don’t care she’s the one I got into this game for

[atomic abyss]

Amagi will only get stronger if they release more Sakura CVs

[rigid onyx]

if you even look at anti heavy bb gun mods it is trivial to realize why cvs have been better for half a decade basically

[quasi nymph]

then just get her from the invitation

[atomic abyss]

Shoving in a random lion won't change that

[hollow gust]

Just use Lion with Amagi Shinano

[fallen jay]

She wasn’t an option?

[quasi nymph]

dont waste 400 pulls on her

[atomic abyss]

There's a different invitation

[fallen jay]

Wait what?

[quasi nymph]

she is along with shinano

[nova crane]

what should i do with my 3 ur bulins

[fallen jay]

Where and how do I get her?!

[atomic abyss]

For completing the final set of rookie missions, you get a UR invitation between NJ and Shinano

[rigid onyx]

complete the newbie missions

[atomic abyss]

Finish lion

[rigid onyx]

shinano is generally more reccomended but if you played to pick up nj redeem for nj

[nova crane]

oh nice i might aswell invite shinano and just use my already existing shinano to mlb it

[nova crane]

alr, btw is she like powercrept meta now

[atomic abyss]

She is the best BB in the game

[nova crane]

holy shit

[turbid marsh]

i would certainly hope so. amagi is my fav so i wouldn't want her to get kicked out that fast. they aint releasing more BBs anyways this year.......i guess

[rigid onyx]

lion is the newest powercreeping selfish damage BB. She is absurd in pvp though

[light trail]

would swapping someone out for lion improve here? maybe vanny?

[atomic abyss]

Musashi

[nova crane]

is trafalgar good aswell?

[light trail]

damn rip the love of my life. tyty

[atomic abyss]

Just use her in your mob...

[nova crane]

nice

[hollow gust]

Musashi

[light trail]

yeah im just kidding. also Taihou is my azur lane #1 anyway lol

[boreal merlin]

Does all out assault damage get affected by stats?

[rigid onyx]

yes lol

[hollow gust]

All out assaults scale off stat

[light trail]

taihou is not great fighting but she's the strongest secretary

[boreal merlin]

Which stat?

[atomic abyss]

You would need a Lion tier BB with Musashi tier anti heavy barrages to displace Amagi
Even then shinano would get replaced first not Amagi
Amagi still buffs Unzen and Kazagumo remember?

[rigid onyx]

usually firepower

[boreal merlin]

Ight

[atomic abyss]

FP or torp
It depends

[sweet delta]

Depends on the barrage, could be FP or TRP. And also RLD matters for frequency

HIT and Luck matter too for damage

[light trail]

best mob member to switch with musashi, maybe indep? or leave mob as is? or just w/e i want bc its mob

[quasi nymph]

vanny ?

[boreal merlin]

Thankies

[atomic abyss]

Replace Aquila then?

[cobalt rapids]

leave as is if clearing speed is more important than stacking xfleets for killing arbiters faster

[atomic abyss]

She's already 125 anyways

[neat karma]

Guys I need help I'm new
So I have
Little illustrous
Little agir
Hood
Volga
Laffey
Indianapolis
Granville meta
Houston
Zippy
Chen hai

What's the best line up i can make with these?

[cobalt rapids]

hood volga unicorn - little agir helena laffey

[light trail]

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Refer to this
Based on that guide, use
Hood, Unicorn, Volga
Portland Helena Laffey

I suppose you can use lil Agir in place of port

[neat karma]

Thanks!

I also focused all my coins and wish in the focused wish event is it a good idea already reached 65 draws

[atomic abyss]

Bad

You should be rolling for the event limited ultra rare ship, Lion

[quasi nymph]

you can always stop

[atomic abyss]

From the event build

Wishing well ships are all permanent

[neat karma]

😭

[atomic abyss]

This is the equivalent of dumping your pulls on the standard banner

[neat karma]

So many resources wasted

[nova crane]

imma not use my UR bulins yet incase i get another lion, i could use it on trafalgar instead which is not on the banner

[atomic abyss]

Yes a lot wasted

[rigid onyx]

you probably shouldnt be pulling the banner if you already have lion

[atomic abyss]

So make sure you throw everything into the event banner over the next 8 days

[quasi nymph]

i respect your patience and tolerance for how much you go through on explaining the basics of things a 1000 times a day

[neat karma]

Ok👍

[atomic abyss]

Well
All in till you get lion
Then you can save again

[neat karma]

Will surely do

Thanks again

[turbid marsh]

sadly doesn't buff lion burn

[atomic abyss]

Will a Lion in anti heavy match Unzen numbers even

Cos Unzen numbers are bonkers lol

[nova crane]

i mean ifs obtainable rn, i can save some UR bulins if i manage to get another UR

[atomic abyss]

You save UR Bulins
And risk missing future URs instead?

I'm not sure that's a risk worth taking

Well if you already have Bismarck 2 maybe
But even then I would rather toss 1 pull a day into wishing well for stuff I don't have but need

[turbid marsh]

wasn't it like 400k or something in taihou?

[quasi nymph]

have you ever got lucky from wishing well ?

[turbid marsh]

i mean mine never reached 350k but ive seem some funny numbers

[atomic abyss]

It was 350k+
Also consider she and Musashi single handedly carried Rodney meta comps who were scuffed cos of CVs due to syncing issues

[nova crane]

hmmm

[atomic abyss]

Aquila in 3 pulls
On the other hand, 3 separate wishing wells for archerfish

[hollow gust]

when was taihou, only way Unzen was hitting 400k is if your backline damahe sucksed

[hushed sorrel]

depends on your cubes. just keep around 400 and you are mostly safe.

[atomic abyss]

Taihou was before hornet

[atomic abyss]

Also Rodney meta was pre amagi kek

[nova crane]

i see thanks

[atomic abyss]

I have no idea what would happen to Rodney meta comps now

Maybe that's where the recommendation of Musashi Lion Amagi might actually work better

[nova crane]

btw i have some common ships mlb for collection, now that its mlb should i just retire them

they are taking up space

[zenith shale]

You can get Shinano from a selector at the end of the rookie missions right?

[hollow gust]

idk where you are getting 400k from

[nova crane]

yes

[atomic abyss]

...was amagi damage always that insane

[hushed sorrel]

some could be needed for the collection for some unique equip. forgot its name

[atomic abyss]

Yeah then I really don't think amagi is getting replaced anytime soon lol

[zenith shale]

Who else is available in the selector btw?

[atomic abyss]

NJ

[zenith shale]

Just them two?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[hoary valley]

hi everyone. is little agir good as tank?

[atomic abyss]

She's ok
Same as Portland retro

Bare minimum to be considered a tank

[nova crane]

i have done the collection, i wont need these ships anymore, wdym by the unique equip btw

[atomic abyss]

Fine for new players

For any player older than a few weeks, there are many better options

[sweet delta]

I suppose they mean Beaver badge gear

[zenith shale]

Any recommendations for the SR selector you get after beating 7-1?

[nova crane]

oh

[hushed sorrel]

like "Eagle Union Elite Damage Control" and i meant collection reward: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Collections

[atomic abyss]

What SR selector
We don't get that anymore?

[hushed sorrel]

just needed time to find out its name

[atomic abyss]

They revamped the rookie missions

[zenith shale]

IS the wiki lying to me? It says you get a selector of some kind after beating the rookie mission about 7-1

[atomic abyss]

That's the old one

It was changed 2 weeks ago

[zenith shale]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sad-anime-gif-21303064

[atomic abyss]

The new one has no SR selector

That's where the UR selector comes from

[nova crane]

but like once i got that ship to mlb i can retire it right cus i dont need to have them all simultaneously

[zenith shale]

To my absolute fucking sadness

[atomic abyss]

You get the SR ships from the selector in medal shop instead

[hushed sorrel]

i dont know about that

[zenith shale]

Any recommendations for that selector then? I was considering getting Hood

[nova crane]

ok

[sweet delta]

You should get good tech ships like Nevada to level 120 in mid-late game

[atomic abyss]

It depends on what's in your medal shop lol

[quasi nymph]

any ur is better then hood

[atomic abyss]

You may not have hood in your medal shop

You need to check

[nova crane]

ok got it

[sweet delta]

A three star UR is not better than a six star Hood

[zenith shale]

the world came crashing down as this statement was revealed to me

[atomic abyss]

If you have BB in your medal shop then yes you can pick hood

If you don't well, let's see what there is lol

[eternal basalt]

Where does it say this?

[atomic abyss]

I'm assuming it's some old beginner guide

[zenith shale]

Beneath the section for HMS Hood

[eternal basalt]

I've already purged the beginner's mission page

[zenith shale]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hood

[atomic abyss]

Like I said, check the medal shop

[hushed sorrel]

i believe its not entire true. so dont care to much. most ships have different use cases

[atomic abyss]

If BB is there good
If not too bad lol

[zenith shale]

Yeah I was just answering him lol

[atomic abyss]

Hood still better than most non MLB URs

[neat karma]

Chen hai or unicorn guys?

[zenith shale]

Lemme check my medal shop

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn is the best healer in the game
Chen Hai is dogwater

[quasi nymph]

eagle union dmg control would be great for a tank like guam right ?

[neat karma]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

You'd use it on non tanky things usually

[zenith shale]

I have SR CA and SR BB available

[atomic abyss]

Good, then you can get hood lol

[quasi nymph]

only she seems to die in in fleets

[sweet delta]

It would be great for any EU vanguard ship but probably not CBs

[eternal basalt]

Thanks, it's gone now

[neat karma]

I think I'll use unicorn instead of volga

[atomic abyss]

If Guam is dying something is very wrong

[zenith shale]

Glad i could help!

[quasi nymph]

not limit broken

[sweet delta]

I think you can use both

[hoary valley]

hmmm.. maybe its time for me to change something

[atomic abyss]

Because she's one of the best tanks in the game

[zenith shale]

your enterprise is so pretty

[atomic abyss]

Also wrong gear probably
Then don't use her

[quasi nymph]

i have all the hp boosters though

[atomic abyss]

Wrong gear then

Only destroyers want HP

She wants evasion

[neat karma]

Already have Hood and volga so
I can make it Hood voga unicorn

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[neat karma]

👍

Little agi laffey Helena front

[hushed sorrel]

why would dd want hp? arent dd mostly with good evasion? so making a strong stat even stronger ...?

[ocean scroll]

is it generally worth collecting µ, little or collab ships since they don't add to fleet tech?

[eternal basalt]

Collection, if you care for that

[atomic abyss]

The opposite
You want to compensate for the stats they lack
You're subject to diminishing returns if you buff their evasion further

Evasion scales pretty poorly over 150

[ocean scroll]

do they count towards the collection % on profile? nvm see µ does and so does little

[atomic abyss]

By the time you hit 200 the gain is marginal

[quasi nymph]

so after 150 eva we shouldnt focus on that stat anymore ?

[atomic abyss]

The short answer is

[hushed sorrel]

oh, i always buffed evasion. thank you

[atomic abyss]

Give DDs 2 HP aux
Give CB CA CL 2 evasion aux or evasion aux + toolkit

[wicked obsidian]

Do we know the kit of tomorrow's Collab Characters??
Like they good or bad?

[atomic abyss]

No

[quasi nymph]

2 ? what about torps ?

[wicked obsidian]

Ow

[zenith shale]

Any other recommendations for the SR BB selector?
Or the CA one?
I've got my eyes on hood and bismarck but I also wanna here some suggestions

[eternal basalt]

"nvm see that it doesnt"
That's wrong

[sweet delta]

Generally for defense
DD: two 500+ HP auxes
CB: two evasion
CA: usually two evasion
CL: one evasion + one something

[atomic abyss]

Torps don't use aux slots
If you mean oxygen torp aux
Those are shit for most players

[full plank]

ay guys whats the best formation for repeat sortie
and can i somehow do 3 at once or i need to wait till they repeat it 3 times over

[atomic abyss]

The latter

[full plank]

:(

[quasi nymph]

i always invested in oxy torps

[hushed sorrel]

we only know from past event that they were never op or lets say thats my opinion. they will be at most sr from my experience.

[atomic abyss]

Hood is the best there

[full plank]

aight and uhh im on chapter 3 or whatever rn
what stages should i keep grinding and for what

[zenith shale]

UNIRONICALLY?

[atomic abyss]

And now you know they're bad
So don't use them anymore

[full plank]

i pulled taihou and unicorn but thats about it

[sweet delta]

Double line for vanguard survivability, or circular formation for reducing main fleet airplane damage

[zenith shale]

YAYYY MY GIRL

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Refer to this
Event anyways

[full plank]

aight ty

[sweet delta]

Dead ships don't do damage

[wicked obsidian]

Ow..damm..I finally saved up for my 1st pull and it's bad ha...

[atomic abyss]

The 2 are free in this case...

There's no need to roll...

[wicked obsidian]

WTH...free

[atomic abyss]

Yes...

Save your cubes for Bismarck 2 if you already got Lion

[wicked obsidian]

What happened to the always 1 from pull and 1 from shop

Not that I am complaining...

[atomic abyss]

This is a collab

They don't play by normal rules

They can do whatever the fuck they want

[quasi nymph]

somehow my dds always died last

[eternal basalt]

Always pull one, cost 600 gold 1 cube, gains 800 gold 1 cube

[wicked obsidian]

I didn't get lion

[atomic abyss]

Then roll for lion?

Event isn't over for another week

[wicked obsidian]

She op?

[atomic abyss]

The best BB in the game

[zenith shale]

Oooh when is she coming??

[atomic abyss]

Dunno

[eternal basalt]

Sometime in the future

Prob. this month

[zenith shale]

Time to save pulls

[ocean scroll]

see that collab doesnt but muse and little does right?

[wicked obsidian]

Which faction was Lion 🦁 in again

[atomic abyss]

British

[zenith shale]

Royal navy

HMS Lion C34

[hollow gust]

Lmao that Australian flag

[eternal basalt]

There are so many flags with brittain on it, damn

[quasi nymph]

montelli faction

[wicked obsidian]

WTH is montelli 1st time hearing it...

[quasi nymph]

i mean you play wuwz right ? montelli is a british family i think

[wicked obsidian]

Ow.. yeah Carlotta is from montelli family

[sweet delta]

EBR enjoyers

[viscid swift]

it's a 2 character only collab that starts while a UR event is still going

they're not gonna run 2 limited banners at the same time

[harsh gust]

• atelier collab soon-ish as well

[hushed sorrel]

that would be fast. there isnt 1 ur per month/average

[wicked obsidian]

Ow... yeah...

[wicked obsidian]

Come on...they can't have another Collab this soon

[eternal basalt]

Every UR event is followed up by the UR rerun

[wicked obsidian]

Right!?!‽¿

[harsh gust]

that's why this one is free

[atomic abyss]

they announced the ryza collab rerun

and this one is free for a reason

[wicked obsidian]

Where can I have the 🔗...I didn't see any News 🗞️ on that

[viscid swift]

in the CN Anni stream

[atomic abyss]

^

btw hassat

you adjusted the page for hood

did you adjust it for sandy/lusty/enty too?

[eternal basalt]

Ryza collab and the following title... either in the collab or seperate

[atomic abyss]

gotcha

[viscid swift]

Atelier Yumina

it'll be one event not 2

Hassat, I challenge you to actually read through what they said during teh CN Livestream on the section about Yumina and Ryza and tell me it's anything but that

[eternal basalt]

I can't speak Chinese, just saw the 2 screens, and people tell me different stuff based on that, soooo

[viscid swift]

those people are idiots frankly

[harsh gust]

I mean it doesn't matter
we'll know when it's out and not like it changes anything

[viscid swift]

if you actually read through the chinese subtitles, even manually translated

[atomic abyss]

it's either that your cubes die or they dont die

[eternal basalt]

There are no subtitles though?

[viscid swift]

it's very evidently clear that it's not 2 events

[turbid marsh]

oh its not taken place as the new collab in nov eh... k

[viscid swift]

there are

let me get my notes back out

[eternal basalt]

Can't find the screens, too old

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528197562998718474/1373300582483230891/image.png?ex=6841a455&is=684052d5&hm=a9a18142e8aae95448eddcb876f3f903d1e7cf3ec27f8d594469123d642139ea&

[viscid swift]

sigh

gimme a bit

[turbid marsh]

if i see that screen and i dont understand chinese, i would think its ryza rerun + adding new characters from atelier yumia.

cause they basically from same series... but thats just my opinion

[viscid swift]

they're not

they're the same franchise but the series are basically unrelated

[turbid marsh]

yeah franchise is what i meant

[eternal basalt]

They showed Ryza 2 + 3 on the same screen in the original though

[viscid swift]

thats because they are part of the same series

[atomic abyss]

yumia doesnt even have that many characters to add

ryza already stretched it a fair bit with kalas who barely even appears iirc

[viscid swift]

exactly, so a stand alone Yumina collab event doesn't make much sense

typically a collab needs 6 characters minimum for a full event, Yumina has like 4 main female characters

[hoary valley]

btw who can I replace in vanguard in the future?

[eternal basalt]

You say, after they do one with 2

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt replace them as questionable as they are
they're alr lvl 100
anything better i'd work on for fleet 2

[eternal basalt]

They also did KizunaAI with 4, so 4 could fit

[turbid marsh]

i mean princess and 2nd don't count as main main female characters as well right? they could just add popular side chracters

[eternal basalt]

(Technically Neptunia is 4 too)

[viscid swift]

I mean notable female characters period

[turbid marsh]

(but thats a rerun, not really an individual event)

[turbid marsh]

never played yumia, but thats kind said

[hoary valley]

sounds logical, thx

[fallen jay]

Ok so Saratoga and Unicorn are both at max limit break.

[viscid swift]

like

this is machine translated but

[fallen jay]

So I should be good for a while right?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[fallen jay]

Sweet then I also just need one copy of Pennsylvania and I’ll have two copies to max limitbreak her as well!

[eternal basalt]

That... doesn't say alot... DoA rerun also had a new minigame, as did SSSS.

[viscid swift]

give me a sec

" Do a certain amount of lightweight processing But the core gameplay remains the same So that you can be in the event Experience at the same time The different charms of the two works of "Alchemy Workshop""

this is the key bit

[eternal basalt]

That makes no sense

[viscid swift]

it does though

they're saying they've simplified the crafting mechanics to be able to fit new elements to accomidate Yumina so that you can get both Yumina and collab in one event

[eternal basalt]

The crafting mechanic was ALREADY piss-easy, just run SP5

[viscid swift]

"Atelier Natsuki" collaboration is about to be reprinted. "Atelier Natsuki" is really a very interesting collaboration. In addition to the reprint, we will also launch a collaboration event with Atelier's new work this year, "Atelier Umia". It's so fast. Let me think about it. "Atelier Umia" was only released in March this year, and we can play the collaboration content in "Azur Lane". It's not you, the planner. I believe that the content of this collaboration will also be full of sincerity. There is one thing that needs to be noted here. Because both the remake and the new event are open at the same time, we will make some lightweight processing for the "Atelier Nasu" event, but the core gameplay remains unchanged. In this way, you can experience the different charms of the two "Atelier" games at the same time in the event. It's a good plan and you are thoughtful. Let's look forward to it together. This time, it's unexpected.

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