gameplay-help

[reef flume]

Adding self buffs, on the first salvo Zwei will go first, Alsace second with a gap of 0,26 seconds from Zwei and Lion last with a gap of 0,37 seconds from Alsace

[split bramble]

waitttt is warspite back, seeing her in pvp with lion

[white agate]

i am be more surprised by royal oak tho(hms backline on the rescue)

[split bramble]

still useless in pve but we are so back

[wind oxide]

The HMS triumphs

[split bramble]

still same vanguard tho, thats so boring

[white agate]

torp meme became t0 iirc it was t1 before so a nice change

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[split bramble]

wooo

finally i can take shima out of the storage

[reef flume]

So?

[whole crypt]

you'll need to find a medium boss that holds up to begin with, Strength is probably going to just melt if you don't go with serious adapt penalties

[sleek flower]

is the rainbow face worth taking if i only need the ur equip bps?

[whole crypt]

it's also great if you still need prints for that DR

[sleek flower]

i already have enough for fs5, just need the gear

[whole crypt]

then yes 0.5hr face is second best possible project

[sleek flower]

got it, thanks

[whole crypt]

for the record this is essentially currently holding up against HorM too

interesting new PvP cook

[reef flume]

HorM? What is that again?

[whole crypt]

Hornet META

[reef flume]

Ah ok

[whole crypt]

you might just end up using those 3 for next META as well, just with HE guns

will need to wait and see

[reef flume]

Yeah for light I js swap the guns with NJ except Lion who will use her own gun

Actually maybe I should give it to Zwei to make her go first and give Lion a NJ gun. What would be better hmm

[whole crypt]

fairly sure BisZwei goes first regardless, don't think that factors in her rld buff

unless NJ gun is that much slower shrug

[reef flume]

Hold on

I'll have to use the cooldown calc Ig

[whole crypt]

if the difference is that big then yeh probably Lion will shoot first

I'm not sure it's worth swapping out if it's close enough for black hole to be effective

OS bosses will melt regardless, won't know if it'll work for Kawakaze before we find out what her gimmick is

[reef flume]

The cooldown calc does not have the Lion gun😔

[storm olive]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ this one does

[reef flume]

Js checked. A lvl 125 Zwei even with self buff fires after Lion with a gap of 0.31 seconds

[whole crypt]

close enough

[reef flume]

And yeah switching guns it's not worth it cuz then the gap between Zwei and Lion would be over one second

[whole crypt]

temperance is going to melt regardless

[warped acorn]

should i change my portland to san francisco in here
currently at w8 so no fleet 2 yet 🙏

[whole crypt]

what level/LB is SF

[warped acorn]

70, mlb

[normal cedar]

I was wondering if I could stagger perseus's double preload without using manual
Any ideas?

[whole crypt]

can you run event D3 instead

if not then D1 or 2 is fine

[warped acorn]

ofc, alr did it atleast 100 times

[whole crypt]

then sure swap to SF and level in D3

[warped acorn]

alr

[whole crypt]

in fact if you can swap out more go for it

Nelson and Chap are just wasting XP

[warped acorn]

well, but not like i have better option
changing nelson to howe wont hurt right

[whole crypt]

just don't waste XP if you can afford it, I'd probably use fleet 1 and take the chance to level another carrier instead

[warped acorn]

alr

[whole crypt]

the more ships you can get bring up to a usable level now the less trouble you will have looking for members for the second fleet when you get to it

[warped acorn]

fair

[whole crypt]

and D3 is incredibly low pressure

[warped acorn]

oh also does the siren stronghold mobs counts into exploration progress

[whole crypt]

no

exploration only counts anything that happens on explorable or secured on that zone

[warped acorn]

guess ima focus on the main objective and ignore those mobs if possible then

[whole crypt]

I'd just kill everything they drop loot anyway

or really just turn on auto and let it do its thing

[warped acorn]

hmm auto
well this is my first time so i better watch them

[whole crypt]

turn on auto and watch the HP, you can always tap out of it if you go low,

also fairly early in the month you may want to hold it off if you don't have enough adapts

[warped acorn]

well i just unlocked them today thats why i still have the adapts

[whole crypt]

fair then go for it

with max adapts, a UR BB + Unicorn probably will carry the whole thing

[warped acorn]

alr ima go auto and watch them

can i go back to port and repair ship halfway doing stronghold?

[whole crypt]

if you still have repair packs can also just use on the spot

as long as the ships didn't debuff from sinking

[warped acorn]

well portland died so fast like paper

[whole crypt]

gear issue?

120 port with adapts shouldn't just fold

[warped acorn]

no? literally 1 repair toolbox with that bonquet

[whole crypt]

what bonquet

[warped acorn]

forgot the name but it reduce dmg taken first 40 sec of battle

that tulipa event one

[crimson glacier]

this?

[whole crypt]

give her an evasion aux

[crimson glacier]

portland kinda just wants eva

[warped acorn]

dont have

[whole crypt]

not even blue evasion?

[warped acorn]

why will i have it 🤔

[warped acorn]

only 1 given to chap

[whole crypt]

because they're a dime a dozen from purple boxes unless you scrapped them

[warped acorn]

well i never get them from purple boxes yet

[crimson glacier]

how about crafting

[warped acorn]

no

bruh this auto be stepping on those traps

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter

blue evasion aux are 5 prints a piece you sure you don't have enough for them? any boxes you can open in depot?

[warped acorn]

no, recently opened nearly all to see if i can get a good piece to find only 533mm yellow torp 💀

well since im still online rn guess ima just heal her if possible for now

[whole crypt]

for now I guess, but try to get an evasion aux for her
if you really only have one I'd rather use it on portland than chapayev

[warped acorn]

oh well
also for the parts and materials stronghold is best source in opsi?

[crimson glacier]

idk if there is any best source

in opsi you kinda are just supposed to clear every zone with icon on it

and then run whatever zone when you have nothing on the map for most of the AP

[warped acorn]

theres so many zones with the yellow chest 🤔

[crimson glacier]

the default is just defensive auxes only on vanguards

[whole crypt]

defensive auxes first because a dead vanguard is 0 dps

unless you've established the ships can hold up with offensive auxes

[subtle cloud]

What are skin projections? I think I understand how to get them but what actually are they

[fallen jay]

Please for the love of all things tell me this girl is good

[whole crypt]

not bad

[fallen jay]

She’s my second SR and I really wanna use her in my main fleet

[whole crypt]

boilerplate if you can't LB her then no SR is going to be good

[tame jungle]

you can but early on gold dupes/bulins are pretty hard to come by and better spent on more powerful backline carries

[severe tinsel]

I wanna ask, I got Cleopatra and Leon from event banner. Are what are they good for and how is it compared to other ship?

I'm new btw

[whole crypt]

Lion is good for everything
Cleopetra is fodder

[late flame]

Leon?

[tame jungle]

kings of leon

[wind hazel]

Leon S Kennedy

[tame jungle]

lion is incredible, cleopatra is pretty meh

[severe tinsel]

Fodder mean for mob fleet?

[tame jungle]

fodder mean not really worth using over other options

[whole crypt]

fodder as in 🚮

[fallen jay]

I have several gold bulins currently

[soft raft]

tech fodder

[late flame]

AA+2

[severe tinsel]

Ohh, thanks.

[fallen jay]

And I have her Taihou and Cleo are my only SRs so far

Wouod it be good to limitbreak her or do I need to save for other ships?

[whole crypt]

Taihou is mid if you spend a lot on her and make her augment
Cleopetra is just bad

[fallen jay]

I haven’t done much for Taihou other than having her in my fleet and she’s been doing pretty good

[tame jungle]

because early on nothing is hard

[whole crypt]

also you're building in the wrong banner unless you took Taihou from invitation

[fallen jay]

Should I use Bre instead of Pennsylvania?

[whole crypt]

Bremerton is a vanguard ship

[tame jungle]

bremerton is not a backline ship

[late flame]

different roles

[fallen jay]

Should I replace my starter with her then?

[whole crypt]

please stop trying to stack your fleet with SRs it'll just be trash without LBs

[soft raft]

Give this a read if you havent already
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[fallen jay]

My starter hasn’t gotten any copies at all yet so she’s not the best

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/

[fallen jay]

But I can limitbreak Bre several times right now

[tame jungle]

it's way easier to stack bulins on your starter's forehead than it is to get bulins for bremerton

[whole crypt]

follow those starter ship options, besides the starter DD you can buy dupes from shops, or use bulins

[tame jungle]

bulins that can go towards an actual good ship like enterprise/hood

[late flame]

it's also waaay easier to MLB (max limit break, or full stars) your starter

[whole crypt]

purple bulins are significantly more plentiful than gold ones

[fallen jay]

Alright so I just have to save Bre for later got it

But it’s still good I got her right?

[tame jungle]

sure

[whole crypt]

if anything I'd ditch Taihou and use Bremerton

it may not be immediately obvious performance wise but should pay off better down the line

[warped acorn]

less ap = weaker?

[whole crypt]

lower corrosion = weaker

[late flame]

mother of 1841ap

[whole crypt]

C5 and C6 abyssals are both 100

[warped acorn]

oh damn

[late flame]

did bro open up all ap boxes or what

[wind hazel]

why did you open so many ap box

[warped acorn]

maybe half

[whole crypt]

no he didn't he just cleared ch4 probably after months if not years of not doing OS

[severe tinsel]

Does warspite and howe good? I also got both of them.

[wind hazel]

you cant get 1.8k ap without opening box lol

[late flame]

the former no latter is ok

[soft raft]

Unsalvageable garbage and decently average respectively

[whole crypt]

Warspite might be making a comeback for PvP but she's not worth the investment in your case

Howe is decent but if you already have Lion I would work on carriers first

[severe tinsel]

What carrier good?

[whole crypt]

for easy access early on Unicorn, Saratoga, Independence

[soft raft]

Unicorn is a must raise
best healer in the entire game after retro

[whole crypt]

Enterprise if you got her somehow

[severe tinsel]

Done retro unicorn and San Diego, no have enty

[tame jungle]

wait do beginners still get the old selector now or no

[soft raft]

I dont think so

[whole crypt]

nope

[tame jungle]

oh damn that's pretty unfortunate

[whole crypt]

so no Hood or Enty from missions

[soft raft]

cuz the handbook replaced the old version wholesale
why else would they warn people to claim their stuff asap

[tame jungle]

idk just for fun maybe

[late flame]

cope for Enty retrofit / augment

[whole crypt]

yeh but by the time you clear part 9 of the missions you'll probably be able to LB the NJ or Shinano you get

[severe tinsel]

Ah i also got lucky and get Akagi and kaga when farming lvl when I got stuck.

[soft raft]

meh and meh respectively, even when paired together

[late flame]

i wouldnt exactly call that lucky unless for collection purpose

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure 3-4 was the best idea for level farming

[normal crane]

Which one should I pick?

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/ this

[soft raft]

yeah why tf are you farming 3-4 if you have a retrofitted Unicorn

[whole crypt]

5/7

[late flame]

5 or 7

[severe tinsel]

I just retro her, I farm lvl b4 I retro her

[normal crane]

Got It thanks

[severe tinsel]

I got stuck at hornet lvl back then, and 3-4 I highest level I can safely farm for

[whole crypt]

what chapter are you at now with what levels

[severe tinsel]

Now I am at 7-4

[late flame]

thereisnocowlevel wait what hornet level

[severe tinsel]

4-4

[woven star]

Saratoga, but she came from some high level chapters

[whole crypt]

7-4 is still very early

how high can you run event?

[severe tinsel]

Wait lemme check

[split gazelle]

is the shorter one better?

[severe tinsel]

C1

C2 kinda hard, my ship start dying

[whole crypt]

ship levels around 80?

[severe tinsel]

Mostly yeah

[whole crypt]

not much additional advice for now then just try to run as much even as possible

[severe tinsel]

Yeah, I just try to lvl up ship I got, and kinda dunno which to invest.

[little tree]

Is u 37 a good sub to get from merit ?

[split gazelle]

yes if you don't have u-101

[little tree]

Thanks

[severe tinsel]

I don't want to invest on wrong ship like what I do on Akagi kaga 😭, I mean I only got Akagi Kaga as dps early on and I saw them wow SR, start to lvl them up a bit.

[weary gust]

Eugen, Akagi and Kaga, and Pity URs are the most common noob traps (along with gold bulin).

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/ starter options won't do you wrong until you get better
just replace Pennsylvania with Lion since you got her

[severe tinsel]

I only got these guys, let's pretend I love Akagi kaga. Well I do like kaga design.

[whole crypt]

buy whatever spec cores you can from medal shop

I don't see other URs, alongside 30k milestone from event should be able to at least 2LB Lion

Akagi and Kaga already raised may be useful at some point later one when you need ships for a second fleet

for now go Lion/Unicorn/Portland/Z23/Sandy

do you have Saratoga or can you afford Independence

with these ships you should be able to at least get up to D1

[severe tinsel]

Have sarotaga, where I can I get independence

[whole crypt]

core shop but if you have Saratoga use her as the third ship

[severe tinsel]

Ok

[whole crypt]

so Lion/Unicorn/Saratoga/Portland/Z23/Sandy

[fallen jay]

So would it be a good idea to invest all my purple bulins into ships like Portland and Unicorn?

And Pennsylvania since she’s already gotten two copies added to her?

[woven star]

You can get little agir. Not best ship but can hold place for second tank

[woven star]

Pennsylvania have often drop. You'll get her anytime and she mostly place holder for better ships

[bleak nymph]

What is this skin projection feature on shipyard? 400 gem plus oath? Uhhh

Ok I go check pin

[woven star]

Other way having mlb Pennsy will be much better but anyway she's not worth purple bulins

[severe tinsel]

Is this good? I prob need mob fleet, since I didn't want my main fleet got chipped by mobs, by the time fight boss already beaten up.

[eternal herald]

chat is this worth buying?

[atomic abyss]

no

[eternal herald]

then wtf is recommended to buy there

[atomic abyss]

the mob is fine, i would just ignore the boss fleet entirely

[late flame]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[whole crypt]

don't think too much about the second fleet, just do everything with the first fleet

[atomic abyss]

3 white shells, 1-2 black shells, and independence

[eternal herald]

WHAT SHOULD I BUY THERE

[woven star]

Try do not split ships for two fleets until one will be lvl 110 avg or reached ch 9-1

[whole crypt]

you probably don't have enough gear to properly equip both fleets

[late flame]

gotta love caps

[severe tinsel]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

the chart tell you what to buy, and i even said what you should buy too

[whole crypt]

have you tried looking at the priorities and what the coloured frames mean

[eternal herald]

hm... Actually you have a good point, Alright I just need a good turret for the battleship Warspite. Is there like any guns good for that shit beside that or what

[weary gust]

Warspite is bad.

[wanton smelt]

What is the BiS backline fleet for Medium and Heavy armor bosses?

[atomic abyss]

use the purple, triple 406mm mk6

the only guns directly better at it are rainbow guns

[eternal herald]

still using it, don't got anything at the moment that can replace warspite

[whole crypt]

besisdes warspite being meh this is the best BB gun you'll use for first 70% of the game or so

[atomic abyss]

there are many many easily available things that can replace warspite, including purples

[late flame]

unless you wanna tryhard pvp

[eternal herald]

doubt with me all you want but i got shit ass luck in the gambling for the URS so skill issue yeah

[whole crypt]

I'd rather use Pennsylvania than Warspite

[turbid marsh]

hood, nelson, american big 7... LION

[atomic abyss]

Med: Soyuz, Nakhimov, Rumey
Heavy: Amagi (UR), Shinano, Implacable/Hakuryuu

[eternal herald]

so that

[weary gust]

Warspite's competition is with purples, not URs.

[wanton smelt]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't even take Warspite over Pennsylvania

[turbid marsh]

purples as in actually purples, not the ones with retrofit XD

[whole crypt]

and Penny is a blue

[weary gust]

Any elite bb with a retro is much better than warspite.

[eternal herald]

warspite has a retrofit.... So even if she is retrofitted it still sucks

[atomic abyss]

yes

[eternal herald]

is this what you're saying?

[weary gust]

Yes. She still sucks after retro and is mega expensive to retro.

[atomic abyss]

yes

[late flame]

main issue with her is that she aint worth* the cost

[whole crypt]

Warspite's retrofit pars her with the last generation of SR BBs

[atomic abyss]

you can retrofit nelson for much cheaper lol

and for better performance

[whole crypt]

current gen SRs are miles ahead
elite to SR retrofits are better

[severe tinsel]

With this fleet, should I retrofit z23 and Saratoga?

[whole crypt]

when you can afford to yes, Saratoga first

[weary gust]

Always retrofit any ships you're using. Unicorn > Saratoga > Portland > z23 for priority order.

[severe tinsel]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

prioritise max limit breaking lion first tho

[eternal herald]

so what ship should i get then to replace them, Besides Hood

[whole crypt]

his corn and sandy already retrofitted

[atomic abyss]

nelson, lion

[woven star]

Not sure retro z23 with rework rookie missions

[severe tinsel]

Ofc lion is priority, since she is main dps

[vocal sandal]

can skins of bismark be used for zwei?

[eternal herald]

cant even get lion after like 11 pulls or some shit

[whole crypt]

Nelson is fine

[atomic abyss]

it took me 190 rolls for lion, what's 11 lol

[weary gust]

11 ... ? You think you're unlucky for not getting her in 11?

[split gazelle]

i got pity for lion

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins#Skin_Sharing

[atomic abyss]

getting her under 20 is very lucky lol

[eternal herald]

I am not the only one. Like there are hundreds more

[whole crypt]

thing is I don't know what else you have so can't really recommend

[severe tinsel]

I got her like around 10-20

[late flame]

feel free to discuss pulls in #al-general or #trophy-room

[weary gust]

Like 100 builds is the "Average". Pity at 200 is not uncommon.

[eternal herald]

well sucks. Alright thanks for letting me know, Didn't knew Warspite sucks that bad. Bye

[whole crypt]

the chances of getting Lion in 11 pulls is like 12%

[eternal herald]

alright bye for real

[whole crypt]

look, we can help and are willing to help if you want to be helped, complaining about RNG and ignoring recommendations isn't helping

[late flame]

just let him go

[whole crypt]

I've helped worse

[opaque gate]

in most cases, who is a better alternative for independence here?

[vocal sandal]

can skins of bismark be used for zwei? (wrong reply)

[eternal herald]

||I know. You're doing your job well. And I understand||

[atomic abyss]

aquila

[atomic abyss]

yes

[vocal sandal]

so if i oath bismark, i can use that oath skin on zwei?

[opaque gate]

ok thanks!

[boreal wagon]

if you oath bismarck zwei you can use it on bismarck zwei

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins#Skin_Sharing

[atomic abyss]

oathing the original wont work

[vocal sandal]

oh ok

[vocal sandal]

alright thanks, i almost wouldve wasted the free promise ring

[opaque galleon]

When does gear lab update drop?

[warped acorn]

when the number get lower 'viii', the boss is stronger?

[sacred parrot]

Can anyone build my fleets for me? Just for the general content and campaign

[whole crypt]

each type has a fixed number I'm not sure if there's any lore reason but it doesn't indicate the boss's strength

[warped acorn]

oh

[whole crypt]

what chapter

[sacred parrot]

11, But my fleet is pretty overleveled for it

[wind hazel]

this fleet? and the soyuz uvh one.

just use them, w11 will get destroyed

[whole crypt]

that's enough to demolish ch12 too
if you have a problem it's probably gear

[sacred parrot]

I dont. I just wanted to update cus I thought I had too many new ships, that should be a better option

[sacred parrot]

I wouldn't know tho.

[sacred parrot]

Allegedly

[whole crypt]

it's better to change when you actually need to as long as you're not wasting XP yet

swapping ships on a whim can just make things harder since you need to spend time and resources leveling and LBing them

[sly ibex]

Good day. Stupid question. Can Napoli tank for mobbing? Don't get me wrong, I read her skills but I wanna make sure.

[sterile jolt]

Shes potentially the tankiest ship in the game

[sly ibex]

I see. She's level 100 and I'm raising her currently but she took so much damage on 12-4 that she almost died. Loadouts fine and all. I'm just wondering.

[sterile jolt]

Dev30?

[sly ibex]

Yes. Of course.

[turbid marsh]

thats weird, unless you are doing all lv100 with no heals, she should be fine at that level

[sterile jolt]

With no heals she must survive...

[sly ibex]

That's what I'm wondering as well. I've never seen a DR or UR CB or CA almost dies like this. My initial thought is that her smokescreen isn't working well because I'm using another shipfu that does use a smokescreen as well.

I'm not using any healers. I'm using a CV main fleet. I'm also raising Nikhamov as well.

[fallen jay]

Who’s a good replacement option for her?

[sterile jolt]

Smokescreens dont stack at first. You need really good gear if you wanna go for 12-4 with no heal and only one fleet

[turbid marsh]

i mean if the guy is doing all lv100 with weaker shipsthat prolong the fights for longer than they should, things with no self heals will have some trouble i guess...

[sterile jolt]

Yeah, thats too

[craggy sorrel]

which one better helena or helena meta?

[storm olive]

Helmet has a niche in QE meta fight, else Helena is better because of 20s sync and better damage amp

QE meta gets brute forced by lion dot now anyway

[eternal herald]

question. So. Erm... So uh What guns fit perfectly for the Hood, Like what guns are good for her.

[sly ibex]

That's the fleet I'm using in 12-4.

[sterile jolt]

Are you using only one fleet? And maybe need to show gear...

[sly ibex]

Yes. I'm just doing 12-4 to raise them.

[sterile jolt]

Sorry, but i cant really understand how napoli dies in this fleet...

[atomic abyss]

Purple twin 410mm

[atomic abyss]

So this is 12-4, and Napoli is dying?

Are you single fleeting?

[sly ibex]

Almost die. Not die die. I'll show you my gear, kind embarrass though.

[eternal herald]

dang, can the gold twin 410mm also be good?

or nah

[atomic abyss]

Absolute shit
Worst BB gun in the game

[eternal herald]

wait don't tell me that shit sucks ass
nvm.

so only purple?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

The gold uses a different ammo which does basically no damage

[eternal herald]

can i use dual purpose for her secondaries. Last damn question

[atomic abyss]

Which dual purpose

[sly ibex]

This one. Sorry for the gear.

[eternal herald]

like any purple dual purpose type

[atomic abyss]

Need the context of where she's dying
12-4? Is it single fleet?
Gear looks perfectly fine

[atomic abyss]

Not specific enough lol
Give her the purple twin 120 ideally as the poverty option

[sly ibex]

Almost died. And yes sir. I'm single fleeting to raise her and the rest of my fleet.

[atomic abyss]

That's why

[sly ibex]

Eh?

[atomic abyss]

She is under levelled for the 12-4 boss which spams torps and shells which deals more to heavy

And you're on 0 ammo so your battle is drawn out

[eternal herald]

alright thanks. That's all i need to know from here

[turbid marsh]

So basically you are fighting 7 fleets with last 2 no ammo XD which comes back to my point of prolonging fights

[inner delta]

if the rest of the fleet isn't just shitty tech lving, single fleet prolly works

[atomic abyss]

Well

[sterile jolt]

Maybe, shes dying cuz your vang literally have no damage (without no ammo debuf) , and you using mostly boss damage dealerls CV that has 20 sec CD for airstrike that deals half damage (no damage exactly)

[atomic abyss]

Yuki it isn't, that's the point

[sly ibex]

No no, I'm fight the whole fight with ammo. 2 remaining.

[atomic abyss]

Hmm?

[sterile jolt]

What?

[turbid marsh]

Oh my god you manual?

As in manually clicking

[sly ibex]

What ammo do you mean? Like the 5/5 per fleet?

[sterile jolt]

Ye

[atomic abyss]

So you're manually controlling the fleet
To get the 3 ammo node

And then continuing onto the boss?

[turbid marsh]

That’s scary

[sly ibex]

Yes sir. Exactly.

[atomic abyss]

That is how we did 12-4 5 years ago

[turbid marsh]

That’s how I do it with 15-4 when it came out a year ago XD

[atomic abyss]

And your fleet is still dying?

[sterile jolt]

Crap i remember this...

[atomic abyss]

Backline gear must be abysmal in that case...

[sly ibex]

I'm stuck on 12-4 for 6 years and never proceed to 13.

[atomic abyss]

Wait

Waaaaaaait

[sterile jolt]

Wtf

[atomic abyss]

What are you doing at 12-4 exactly

[turbid marsh]

?

[atomic abyss]

Levelling? Or clearing it for the first time

[sly ibex]

Just raising and farming gold.

[turbid marsh]

Red Sea?

[atomic abyss]

Fix the backline gear
Or for your sanity
Just go back to 12-1 and let the auto do the work

So you can come back 15 mins later and see the fruits of your labour

[atomic abyss]

Instead of manually grabbing the ammo

[turbid marsh]

Ah so it’s not lethal. It’s just level problem then. Just do 12-1 and then when Napoli gets like level 110 should be fine

[atomic abyss]

Just underlevelled

12-1 boss hits way softer

So if you want to bring the underlevelled Napoli for the fleet
Return to 12-1

Or maybe fix the backline gear

[sly ibex]

So in short, I've never experience a UR or DR that almost died in 12-4, not even Unzen. But I'm not saying I don't like her or she's bad. I'm just wondering why.

[atomic abyss]

Underlevelled

[sly ibex]

Thank you answering for the stupid topic of mine.

[atomic abyss]

She's literally the tankiest vanguard in the game

[sterile jolt]

Unzen is a damage dealer, not a tank... Napoli is a tank with something called damage

[atomic abyss]

Only reason she's dying is cos she's underlevelled

I won't be surprised if the backline gear is scuffed tho

[inner delta]

its gear, kinda doubt lv 100 is that bad on there especially you are literally napoli

[sly ibex]

Not exactly but I will say they're not the best of the best.

[atomic abyss]

Yuki it's rudder box

[inner delta]

the rest

not her's

[sly ibex]

I showed her loadout earlier. Not the best though.

[atomic abyss]

It's already pretty good
Which is why I'm confused

[sly ibex]

I am too.

[atomic abyss]

Do send Nakhi Hornet 2 and Ticonderoga gears here

[normal cedar]

is kazan better at both healing and dps than arizona with aug?

[atomic abyss]

Yes and yes
Arizona isn't in the conversation at all

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks

[forest palm]

Arizona heals?

[turbid marsh]

i forgot what arizona aug does, but withou aug 50% she heals like tiny tiny bit XD

[sly ibex]

I'm not confident on Nikha but this one.

[normal cedar]

50% chance to heal 10% full vanguard every main gun fire + 15% hp to every ship that goes below 20% once per battle

[inner delta]

see ender

told you

[atomic abyss]

It's...not bad tho?

[sly ibex]

That's why I said I'm not confident about it.

[forest palm]

"chance"

[atomic abyss]

I suppose Nakhi is the only somewhat questionable one

[inner delta]

in the end longer fight just kills her since she is also heavy

[atomic abyss]

Though I am very confused why you're grinding with a level 120, capped at 3 million exp hornet 2

[sly ibex]

But I don't mind her gear because I use her too in boss fight.

[sly ibex]

She's just there for AA.

[atomic abyss]

And she's not doing that

Maybe just make guichen the main tank instead of napoli

[split gazelle]

does 12-4 give more xp than 12-1?

[sterile jolt]

Ofc

[dreamy blade]

12-1 is more exp per oil

[sly ibex]

Thanks for the answers guys.

[turbid marsh]

Then why not stack an unicorn or Akashi if you want mvp

[river sedge]

Is San Diego worth it to retrofi

I only have one viable team so I assume she will help me out alot tbh

[atomic abyss]

Extremely

[river sedge]

I can't get UR Bulin 💔

[dusty terrace]

Hey, how can I improve my OpSi fleets? First one is anti light, then second one is anti medium and last one is anti heavy armor. I have most ships (would rather avoid using helena though I hate rng)

[turbid marsh]

I would say yes. She conquers basically all campaign. High asw, good barrage, decent sea damage, very high aa, just a bit squishy. But idk about retrofitting her when you only have 1 viable team though.

[river sedge]

I think retrofitting her will help me start to build my 2nd team which is good in a way

[atomic abyss]

Best way to improve is use a BB comp with lion for light

Especially since you're stuck with AvP for your kears comp

[turbid marsh]

Takes time to get all those gold retrofit items that’s for sure. But I would say very worth.

[river sedge]

I already bought the item (sadly no UR Bulin for me) and i can retrofit her alrea
💔

[fallen jay]

Ok how do I beat the first level of P2 In the event?

[river sedge]

OH I NEED ONE MORE GOLD BULIN

[turbid marsh]

That’s fine, just 1k specialized data anyways.

[dusty terrace]

What would the vanguard be for the BB fleet and the medium fleet?

[river sedge]

2k

[atomic abyss]

That's where you would use stuff like Agir and Plymouth
And swap Sirius to the Soyuz comp
Use Unzen there instead

[turbid marsh]

Oh well, 2k. Still should be fine. Lion + 5 others should destroy anything w13 and below. Unicorn retrofit + Portland + 4 others should destroy all w13 mob and below anyways.

[river sedge]

goated

[fallen jay]

Hey @atomic abyss what do I do to beat the event? My team can’t do it and I’m at a loss

[turbid marsh]

Ayyy and augment her too XD gonna see her demolishing stuff now

[atomic abyss]

The highest map you can do

[fallen jay]

And just repeat it til I can?

[atomic abyss]

No?

Farm the one you can actually do completely

[fallen jay]

That’s what I meant. My bad

[atomic abyss]

And then 1 run of anything else you can do for the first run a day bonus

[fallen jay]

It’s the first mission of P2 in the event so I would do the last mission of P1 right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes so farm A3

Once you're a bit more levelled, you can progress to B1

[dusty terrace]

Aurora stays in the BB anti light armor fleet, right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[elfin hollow]

Ignoring levels and such, which of these DDs are actually good?

[turbid marsh]

Kazagumo

[atomic abyss]

Kazagumo and Tashkent

[turbid marsh]

Changchun if retrofit

[eager marsh]

rainbow protocore won't refresh?

[atomic abyss]

Never will

[elfin hollow]

Just those three?

[split gazelle]

isn't tai yuan better than chang chun?

[atomic abyss]

Just those 3 yes

[turbid marsh]

Others are not worth

[atomic abyss]

Yes, but there's no Tai Yuan there is there

Oh wait there is

[turbid marsh]

Wait I didn’t even see lol

[fallen jay]

Ok I don’t get why everyone was saying to take Taihou off my team. She’s been hard carrying with her bombers

[atomic abyss]

Well, who did they tell you to replace her with

[elfin hollow]

I mean I don'tore than 3 good DDs right?

[turbid marsh]

Who is everyone

[atomic abyss]

Sorry, it's
Kazagumo, Tashkent, Chang Chun retro, Tai Yuan retro

[fallen jay]

No one they just said she was bad

[atomic abyss]

Anyone who says Taihou is bad is smoking

[eager marsh]

bad != take off your fleet

[turbid marsh]

Compared to who? Bad in general or bad compared to specific ships?

[fallen jay]

But given she’s one of the few SRs I have now and she’s been doing a lot of damage in mobing it’s been awesome

[atomic abyss]

The question is, replace with who

No point telling you to take her out if there's no one to replace her with

She isn't bad

[sterile jolt]

Mid, not bad at all

[fallen jay]

Seriously that bomber attack of hers is nuts. Also I don’t know who they expect me to replace her with. I have Unicorn and Pennsylvania in the main fleet with her. Portland Helena and my starter in the cvanguarx

[young heron]

replace with saratoga prob

[atomic abyss]

The only time I would say drop Taihou is if you had Saratoga

Or Enterprise

[turbid marsh]

Or Aquila

[eager marsh]

so no one actually told you to remove her...

[young heron]

is taihou mlb?

[fallen jay]

Speaking of how do I get the medals for medal shop so I can buy her when she comes around?

[atomic abyss]

Retire blue and purple ships you don't use

I would just use Taihou then

[fallen jay]

So the rest of them are fine to retire if they aren’t the main ones I use?

[turbid marsh]

Until you get better ships just stick with what you have man…

[fallen jay]

Alright

[atomic abyss]

Taihou isn't even mid lol

[young heron]

i mean u should keep a copy of every ship just retire dupe purples and blues

[atomic abyss]

The ones that you have multiple copies of, at least

[elfin hollow]

I've also got the new UR DD so I'm set

[atomic abyss]

Not really

[eager marsh]

just configure auto retire to keep 1 copy

[atomic abyss]

Trafalgar isn't gonna be better than them unless she's fully limit broken

Which I doubt you have

Even then she's a debuffer

She's no DPS

[turbid marsh]

(And AA which I think you don’t need at this stage. And less prior when it comes to UR bulin)

[elfin hollow]

Oh

That's sad

[atomic abyss]

All URs are like that

[young heron]

what pr ship should i focus on if im not even close to ib tech req

[atomic abyss]

With great power comes great cost

[young heron]

decently close to eu and rn tech

[atomic abyss]

Anchorage and then Plymouth then

[elfin hollow]

I'm just gonna keep sending over ships if you don't mind

What about BBs?

[eager marsh]

limit break hood if you have coin

and lock one. nvm I didn't see the 2nd picture. mlb her then

[atomic abyss]

The only notable upgrade from research would be FdG which needs ironblood soooooo

Just stick to Owari and Lion

[eager marsh]

also why there's 2 washington leveled up

[elfin hollow]

I didn't have enough to lb so she kept going on commissions 😭

[eager marsh]

you didn't do the 12h commissions did you

[elfin hollow]

Nope that's way too much oil

What about CVs?

[eager marsh]

good enough. maybe retrofit saratoga

[atomic abyss]

Hakuryuu you can get but lower priority than Anchorage

But yes work on Saratoga

[eager marsh]

retire any copy of mlb ships like kaga

quick retire won't select them

[storm olive]

Is sara or chkalov better for opsi mob

[atomic abyss]

Both have natural stagger

So frankly up to you

[cobalt gate]

is there a way to keep the same team for event that you don't have to care about the teams you using for main chapters? just accidentily used my chap 13 team instead of low oil team

lost so much oil'

[atomic abyss]

the simple solution

is you set your low oil fleets as fleet 1/2

[cobalt gate]

i did, but i think i farmed a main story chapter and then didn't notice team changed for event

[atomic abyss]

then no

[sharp socket]

my fleet 1 is my crossfleet, while my fleet 2 is usually farming and 3-6 are 1:1

[viscid swift]

just gotta be more dilligent

[atomic abyss]

it's kinda on you at that point

[sharp socket]

just look at your screen, if you see 6 ships there then something is wrong

[elfin hollow]

Will do!!

[cobalt gate]

welp spent 390 more oil, ugh the event low ones don't have an oil cap

[lofty zodiac]

Why not farm the event D stage oil cap and you can use ship you want to lvl like in 12-1/4

[random rain]

hello. can you guys send me the link of that one website that gives you recommendations on fleetbuilding for w14? It's not slaimuda, but I remember them also having a guide for w15. I could not remember anything else beyond that sorry

[wind hazel]

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[gray grove]

Where can i farm this currency

[wind hazel]

hard mode

[gray grove]

Any stage?

[wind hazel]

yes, higher better. x3 daily

[gray grove]

O no

[random rain]

thanks!

[opaque gate]

is trafalgar a tank? a torpedo based, or what is her type of DD?

[whole crypt]

support

is Kawakaze starting after next maint

[opaque gate]

how should i build her? especially her gun and aux

[turbid marsh]

support/buffer(insane in lion related fleets), second/third slot tankiness, loads barrage, very good AA and ofc asw too.

[whole crypt]

113

[turbid marsh]

76/113 with two toolboxes should be fine for start, maybe want the dragon thingi

like toolbox + another 550 hp should be just fine tbh

[opaque gate]

so she is basically built like z52?

[whole crypt]

if you mean goldburn that's kind of a premium item

[opaque gate]

thank u guys

[cobalt gate]

@lofty zodiac i'm kinda done for the most part, just doing the 3x b since its worth it

[atomic abyss]

yes, but she's nowhere as tanky
about port kai tankiness

[whole crypt]

not like you need the daily bonus to hit 100k on a 3 week event though

(and obviously you can bail long before 100k for most cases)

[solemn needle]

how to get into sp stage in event 🙏

[gray grove]

Im having an issue with these missions ,
One mission required me to join a guild , i did join but the mission did not progress , and now the core shop , i bought an item and didn't progress

[viscid swift]

did you buy it from the monthly and not limited shop

[wind oxide]

im assuming you're talking about that mission where you need to contribute to the guild and do guild missions
well you need to wait a few days to do that

[gray grove]

I did stay in the guild for like 3 days and did missions , purchased stuff nothing happened

[gaunt cedar]

do i just upgrade this? i saw theres some conversion things but im not sure when to use them

[viscid swift]

yes

[wind oxide]

The mission needs you to do the i think Solomon air sea battle

[wind hazel]

do D3, toggle hard on B3

[solemn needle]

ok thank

[gray grove]

I seee

What about the core data shop or what ever

[viscid swift]

^

[wind oxide]

You need to buy from monthly shop

[eager marsh]

there are 2 core data shop

[viscid swift]

also why didn't you just stay in the guild

no reason to leave once you've joined if it's an active one, literally just free resources

[gray grove]

Well i thought something was broken so i left

[gray grove]

Really?

[viscid swift]

yeah pretty much

[gray grove]

I mean so far its just the guild currency which is free dock slots but i dont see any other benefits

[viscid swift]

if you join in guild operations you'll get even more guild tokens and even gold plates

Like so

[wind oxide]

you also get guild tokens which you can also buy gold plates sometimes from the guild shop

[whole crypt]

you'll need to be active-ish in a guild to sustain decent spending in guild shop

plus free res

[undone plover]

the gold plates are actually guarenteed
you can buy 10 each monday and friday

[whole crypt]

generally the only reason you leave a guild is if you need to look for a better one

[wind oxide]

basically everything on the guild tech is worth investing in for me lmao

[whole crypt]

worth or otherwise even if you don't buy guild tech it's a net positive doing guild ops

[storm olive]

Does kear suffer without yk2

[wind hazel]

considering most of her use is paired with yk2 and vice versa yeah

[whole crypt]

Kear suffers less without Yorktown II than Yorktown II does without Kear

[wind hazel]

yk2 enty days 👴🏼

[wheat ore]

can you only get this from the boxes? and the other parts from the crates from op si ?

[whole crypt]

is that the french shit

[forest palm]

if it's french, or italian the equipment boxes are in the medal shop

[whole crypt]

if it's the french shit you can buy iris boxes, but I don't seriously recommend crafting champagne gun in lab

[viscid swift]

it's Eagle Union

[wind hazel]

it's eagle lol

[whole crypt]

this junk?

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_356mm_(14"/50_Mk_11)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0 but why do yo uwant it

[sacred parrot]

2nd copy of Trafalgar, or Gun?

[whole crypt]

gun definitely

[sacred parrot]

Gun it is then

[wheat ore]

in the gear lab, that's how you you do it right? or can you skip steps

[whole crypt]

I'm not even sure what took you this long to get 10k for it

[wind hazel]

you can skip

[eternal herald]

Question for Prince of Whales, what Quad gun is good for her

[zenith heron]

any current review about Trafalgar, assuming that most of the peeps rn are using her in utmost potential? comparing to the likes of other UR DDs like Z52?

[wind hazel]

you dont have to start from the first gear in gear lab

[sacred parrot]

Just came back yesterday

[eternal herald]

nvm.

[storm olive]

None, all of the quad guns are ass

[wheat ore]

oh right lmfao i'm trying to craft this but it seems pretty expensive

[whole crypt]

just as a rule of thumb always gear first, and a dupe is just a glorified bulin anyway

[wind hazel]

yes, low priority too

[eternal herald]

Oh so i see

so only trio guns are good?

[wheat ore]

wait i thought that means high prio?

[wind hazel]

it's red now

[whole crypt]

high priority if you can afford it
you cannot afford it
it's also not significantly better than Mk6 if you cannot afford the gold plates for it

[gray grove]

Whats gonna happen to the extra coins

[whole crypt]

nothing

[burnt spade]

When do I need to start caring about heavy/light loadouts/fleets? Cause I just got my ahh clapped in one of the Abyssal Zone (iirc that's what it's called) though tbf I only had one team

[whole crypt]

please don't post unrelated memes here

[storm olive]

Is there anywhere I would even use kear or is she benched

[wind hazel]

i dont agree on it being high priority, considering how often you gonna use it vs Light

[sweet delta]

Consider that the current event shops UR gun is a better version of mk7

[agile patrol]

hi. i retrofitted portland
is Unicorn the next on the list?

[wheat ore]

oh okay, i'm just following all the red ones in the guide

[wheat ore]

yeah i have that one already but i need another good gun for my other BB i think

[flint sonnet]

Can I build lion exactly how I build Bismarck zwei? Idk which secondary and anti air gun to use

[sweet delta]

And that's mk6 purple , if you're fighting light bosses

[whole crypt]

the problem is you can't just read priority in one category because of all the materials you'll need, rainbow guns are actually far down the priority list

[young heron]

so what should the prio actually be for a newer player?

[whole crypt]

but yeh might want to get sam to take off that high prio for mk7...

[wheat ore]

wait so what should i do in that case?

[young heron]

the ijn cl gun?

[whole crypt]

those are relatively cheap if you want a somewhat decent CL gun

the priorities are usually planes, wyverns first with spare materials going to make converging TBs or the 2x1000lb bomb fighters along the way

if you're done with planes then depends on what you're lacking, but generally Mk6 suffices for most things you'll want a Mk7 for

[whole crypt]

Unicorn is actually higher priority but sure

[agile patrol]

i ran out of carrier blueprints midway through 💔

[normal cedar]

which converging tb will you recommend first btw, since there are 4 of them that are considered equal

[whole crypt]

it's "high priority" for being the best "generic gun", but you know how those things go

[whole crypt]

I would personally recommend Ju-87 D-4 first because there's no other way to get the plane besides lab

[wind hazel]

personally i'd put 457 above mk7 lol

[woven star]

Once

[whole crypt]

in terms of usefulness in late chapter 457 is better
there is the caveat you can buy one copy from proto shop though

[wind hazel]

ye i guess

[whole crypt]

but for players nowadays you can possibly get enough to craft a Mk7 before you get enough proto cores for a 457

anyway back to affinity grind I forgot Agir-chan opens up on Wednesday not Thursday

[young heron]

glo meta is farmable in d3 right?

[whole crypt]

I can't remember did CN say they'll hand out ring on 3rd week

[forest palm]

all I really remember is 2x Ring Pack

[whole crypt]

well 2x is all regions but I haven't gotten a free ring so far for the anniv

nvm I'll find out on Thu

[normal cedar]

Is it possible to obtain non blank UR plans?

[cobalt rapids]

yes possible

[normal cedar]

ohh ok, is there any specific source for them in opsi? Ive only gotten blanks till now

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki operation siren lists all sources

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren_Exploration
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Operation_Siren

Jun 3, 2025, 4:33 PM

[undone plover]

The non blanks are from cat nodes and abyssals
Put your highest level SR cats in your mob fleet

U cant control what u get tho since it is rng

[normal cedar]

i see
btw does it work if I only put 1 cat?

[undone plover]

2 is better but yes I think

[cobalt rapids]

it works but no1 knows when it caps because no1 researched enough

i think cn wiki claimed SR lv 23/25 for max rewards but idr if it was two or one cat

[normal cedar]

ohh thanks!!

which sr gear will you recommend to craft first out of these first? bidders or 155mm kai cl gun or something else? (since these mats are not used in planes)

[cobalt rapids]

2 155mm kai assuming there isnt anything higher prio fighting for ords

[undone plover]

U rly only need subs for hard arbiter
And ch14+
So craft bidders when u start using subs
155kai is nice for CL main gun
Quad mags are also a nice upgrade on the generic torps

[acoustic quiver]

i have never crafted a rainbow gear and now have mats to craft one of these and want to know how many of these do i need? I assume i should craft the bb gun first

[normal cedar]

thanks a lot again!

[sweet delta]

You can take 2 wyverns for campaign and general multi-wave content

[acoustic quiver]

ok ill do that thanks

[cobalt rapids]

now with lion gun in shop mk7 is even less of a prio for players that played lion event
at most u want 1 when ure super rich and uve done ur important guns at +13 and u can afford now to +13 for bossing content minmaxing

[fallen jay]

Ok @atomic abyss So my main problem with the next mission in the event is sustain

[sweet delta]

Triple 406mm Mk 7 is not a high priority

1. Mk.II from Lion's event ship is better
2. UR HE guns are not the top priority for gold plates for +13
3. A +10 Mk 7 is only 8% to 9% more damage and is slightly slower than the purple +10 Mk 6 for most UR BBs
4. Therefore, Mk 7 is a very small upgrade over Mk 6 if you have not finished other gold gun plate priorities like ~20s gold AP BB guns (triple 406mm /50, triple 380mm mle 1935, triple 406mm mk-1) and Lion's Mk.II

[fallen jay]

What do I do for that? Like the team is plenty strong to take on each enemy but one after another they can’t they just get worn down

[sweet delta]

There's the copy paste

[atomic abyss]

are you not using unicorn ?

[fallen jay]

I am using her. She’s on the far right of the main fleet

[cobalt rapids]

/gearlab is less of a prio list and more of a showcase of good gear tha can be obtained from gearlab with the stronger options at the top
you should do ur homework however how much u gain from the gear, (if) it can be obtained through other ways and if the opportunity cost for the materials that can be used on onther gear is worth it
and ofc to check if theres other sidegrades/upgrades/slightdowngrades that may warrant skipping that gear altogether

[atomic abyss]

what level is your fleet

[fallen jay]

The lowest level is Helena at 43

[atomic abyss]

keep on trucking then

you want to overlevel

[fallen jay]

Taihou at 46 and the rest are over 50 with Pennsylvania leading at 78

[atomic abyss]

limit break everyone as much as possible

try to overlevel

[fallen jay]

Should I use my purple bulins on Portland and unicorn?

Or Helena?

[atomic abyss]

all of them?

[fallen jay]

Yeah like first Unicorn then Portland then Helena?

[atomic abyss]

portland you can use dupes

actually for all of them you can buy dupes from guild shop

[fallen jay]

Oh yeah

Glad I didn’t use any of the bulins on them then

[brisk wind]

Does main fleet placement on the left or right of the middle affect anything for the different ship classes?

[atomic abyss]

they may if they have specific skills

[fallen jay]

Uh so it’s not letting me refresh the guild shop

[cobalt rapids]

u can only refresh it once per reset

[acoustic quiver]

is there any gear i should craft with these or should i just trade them up. I only have 1 flying flapjack and 1 agir gun

[cobalt rapids]

2nd tenrai, 2 155kai, 1st 457(if cannot be gotten from protocore )
as far as this specific material goes

[echo nexus]

who should i use these on? idk who i could level up to make use of them without just wasting them 😭

[cobalt rapids]

use them to boost low lvl ships so they can survive where ure grinding

[north wharf]

Is it still possible to delete dorm 3D data or otherwise trim on non-essential data?

[hollow gust]

Gonna redownload the game and then click everything off

[north wharf]

Okay that's not ideal, guess I'll do it when I really have to. Thanks for the help

[echo nexus]

i don’t have any atm but i’ll check who i’m doing next in the pr exp farming, maybe there’ll be a lower level one that i might need to use when i get to them 👀

[opaque gate]

what does buildable at 3000 actually mean?

[hollow gust]

you should be doing fleet tech if you have that many

[inland shoal]

Means you need 3000 guild contribution points for that iirc

[ivory pawn]

3000 in guild contribution points, can check how many you have under Members.

[opaque gate]

ooooh i seee, thanks!

[echo nexus]

i am doing fleet tech but i left a fair few at level 100-119 when i was jumping between pr ships so im coming back to them now before i go for low level ships again

[turbid marsh]

Fast tech leveling XD those dd fp, ca reload Eva and stuff XD

[grave venture]

I wanna ask a question about gear

That how can i get ssr gear

[hollow gust]

just dump them into new ships with good tech, 3000 is the cap

[grave venture]

Or ur gear

[echo nexus]

icic, i’ll do that then

[grave venture]

Or who do I know that this gear is best for my ship please help me

[stark quiver]

based on what youre doing with them

[grave venture]

.

[atomic abyss]

first, an obligatory note that not all rainbow and SR gear are good

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[atomic abyss]

refer to the first link for an equipment guide

[grave venture]

Bro there are so many things mention

I don't even know where to start first

[atomic abyss]

start from the top?

no but seriously, it's hard to give any specific advice without knowing at what point of the game you are at

[grave venture]

I am at chap 7:3

[opaque gate]

which cat officer is best for bb or CV?

[atomic abyss]

then you can ignore all rainbow gear and most gold gear too

[turbid marsh]

Ah I understand. You can start by making a thread, and then post your ships, and then try to find the gears a helper gives, Dayan.

[atomic abyss]

your priority shd be filling up equip slots to begin with

you may want to start a thread

[opaque gate]

which is better for DDs?

[atomic abyss]

DD cats dont matter

[opaque gate]

oh lol

[stark quiver]

right one
dd aa is useless

[mellow cape]

Cats are low-key endgame. Just use whatever

[whole crypt]

use a cat that's good for the fleet overall not just your DDs

[opaque gate]

how about this? the rainbows are 3% less dmg and 3 spd

[atomic abyss]

lime for BB
bishamaru for CV
subject to actual talents lol

[stark quiver]

maybe a campaign cat ig

[opaque gate]

okii thanks

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[fallen jay]

@atomic abyss I just got Saratoga so shoudl I replace Taihou?

[atomic abyss]

what level is taihou currently

[fallen jay]

43

[atomic abyss]

What limit break

[fallen jay]

None

Same for Saratoga. I only just got her

[atomic abyss]

Do you have exp books?

[whole crypt]

yeh but Saratoga will be much cheaper to get into a usable state

[fallen jay]

I think so?

[atomic abyss]

If so level Saratoga up to the same level

[whole crypt]

doesn't have to be the same level just up to a level where she won't die for what you're running now and let normal XP take its course

[fallen jay]

How do u use the exp things? I have 15

[atomic abyss]

click on the ship's exp bar

[fallen jay]

Ok she’s level 51 now.

[opaque gate]

is there a way to change stats? her skill is based on directives, not tactics and also, i think this is a good cv scat

[fallen jay]

I used 9 packs

What next?

[atomic abyss]

no flame = not good

[atomic abyss]

back to grinding then

[opaque gate]

what flame

[turbid marsh]

farm hard mode x-4 for retrofit, aim for her augment XD

[atomic abyss]

flame agression

[opaque gate]

talent? or skill

[atomic abyss]

talent

[fallen jay]

Just switch out Taihou for Sara?

[atomic abyss]

skills are irrelevant for cats

[atomic abyss]

yes

[fallen jay]

Also is a good idea to bring in a second fleet?

[atomic abyss]

no

[opaque gate]

ooh so i can keep resetting

or is that talent innate? like i have to train

[atomic abyss]

yes, stop resetting and get another cat instead...
talent is rng

[stark quiver]

dont use that one
open boxes

[whole crypt]

don't bother resetting cats that don't have good base talents

[opaque gate]

okok thanks, how about for lime, what talent should i find?

[stark quiver]

none dont use lime

[young heron]

At what dev do pr ships become useable?

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with lime

[opaque gate]

i thought lime is the best for bb

[atomic abyss]

lime or oscar, again depends on talents
you also want flame

[whole crypt]

you want lime with BB talents, best would be one that starts with at least flame or soulful

[atomic abyss]

majority of them are only usable at 30

[stark quiver]

also how many of you guys here have perfect cats

[opaque gate]

okie, thanks

[whole crypt]

I have 1 perfect edelweiss

[stark quiver]

i have a single 9/10 steel and thats as far as cats go for me

[opaque gate]

oooh so this one is good?

[young heron]

Is it worth to spend all my coins on bps or should I just do the daily discounted ones

[atomic abyss]

discounted up till 10 a day imo

[stark quiver]

yes

[young heron]

Ok makes sense ty

[atomic abyss]

all the tempesta cats are good

[haughty dust]

so outside of retrofitting some of these ships just for collections purposes for the ones that can be retrofitted. Obviously, some of these I’m gonna use as enhancement, father and get rid of soon, but is there any reason to keep all of these ships? Should I get rid of some to make some space?

[stark quiver]

tech

[whole crypt]

if you don't know what's good for your cats just use tempesta cats

I've been opening boxes and rerolling for years without much to show

[stark quiver]

arent temp cats like 8/10 for drake and every

[haughty dust]

for example, outside of retro fitting some of them purely for collection are there any specific ones I can get rid of not including enhancement fodder.

[viscid swift]

I man I wouldn't ever retire unique coppies ships

[opaque gate]

ok so stay with tekpesta cats and hope for perfect talents when opening boxes

[whole crypt]

common fodder use for enhancement
up to you whether you want to keep unique copies it's a collection thing

[stark quiver]

yes, you pray

[opaque gate]

thankss

[hushed sorrel]

what are even good stats? i got many lv 30 cats without any skilling done. they got all skillpoints

[stark quiver]

do /cats in botspam

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[stark quiver]

that also works

[whole crypt]

rice's cat guide is literally all you need to know about what you want from cats

[haughty dust]

What do you mean by unique copies?

[stark quiver]

idt ive ever read it

[hushed sorrel]

it looks good

[whole crypt]

your downes and ranger retrofit for example, I wouldn't scrap them

[hushed sorrel]

some are unique event cats

[whole crypt]

but if you're really short on space and can't afford more then common ships can go first

[stark quiver]

yes, tempesta cats

[whole crypt]

the tempesta ones are the easiest to use if you're sick of rolling cats

[stark quiver]

maybe one day wiki will put them in

[normal cedar]

you only use wyvern on healers right? since dps cv use conv

[atomic abyss]

you dont use conv torps in campaign so lol

[whole crypt]

as it turns out I do have soulful flame BB cat but it's an oscar not a lime

[hushed sorrel]

hmm i need to think more about what i will do. for now i just try to get those "core" stats

[atomic abyss]

wyverns are for all your campaign CVs that use TBs

[normal cedar]

ohh, i thought boss cv like enty franklin used converging in campaign as well

[atomic abyss]

you dont cos they'll miss

[stark quiver]

Just get a good starting roll and then gamble

[atomic abyss]

there's nothing stopping the enemy from dodging the torps

not to mention franklin TB slot is super weak

enty's isnt much better

[whole crypt]

converging only works on large slow or stationary bosses if you don't bring a slow/stop support

[stark quiver]

Large hit box

[whole crypt]

generally for campaign it's just parallel all the way

the exception is from ch13 onwards you may want to consider one slot of converging for sniping command ships

[normal cedar]

makes sense, ig since using wyvern also gives extra aa
thanks for clarifying it

[stark quiver]

Idt that’s a thing, you run bb for that no?

[atomic abyss]

it was a thing

[stark quiver]

[atomic abyss]

we didnt have wyverns back in 2019-2020

[carmine heath]

how do slot efficiencies work

[atomic abyss]

dmg multiplier basically

[stark quiver]

More eff the better

[little tree]

Does 100% efficiency mean base line dmg?

[atomic abyss]

so we did float around the idea of using conv TBs to take out heavy armour cmd ships

the alternative was saratoga retro whose unique skillset could allow her to do the same

[whole crypt]

even with wyverns you can consider it

[atomic abyss]

basically, yes

[whole crypt]

but it was mostly a ch13 thing

14+ is awkward with concealment

Saratoga just wiped the floor for everything in 13

and that was before tenrai

[atomic abyss]

it's her retro skill + helldivers

[whole crypt]

the flood is nice but the retrofit stats plus divebombers just good for wiping

[elfin hollow]

Are any of these CL/CA good?

[inland shoal]

I mean Helena is still the best dmg buffer albeit rng, Sandy is really good, Sirius is top tier
The rest is ranging from decent to bad

[worldly pewter]

do the dailies and mini game to get trafalgar
the rest u want to do the highest stage possible to get the 10k currency gun and the tech boxes

[elfin hollow]

damn not even Kronshtadt chapayev or Neptune are worth it?

[forest palm]

none of those 3 are MLB, so their value significantly drops

[inland shoal]

Kron isn't a CA or CL

[elfin hollow]

isnt cb like the same thing

[elfin hollow]

so if I Lmb them are they worth it?

[wind hazel]

no

kron isn't worth the investment

[inland shoal]

Not really, Kron is okay, but there are (much) higher prios for UR bulins
Chappy has very niche usage, Neptune is ehh

[elfin hollow]

awwww

[wind hazel]

neptune decent tank if you need one

[elfin hollow]

why are all my URs mid

[wind hazel]

but i'd just get anchorage..

[eternal basalt]

Have Lion?

[whole crypt]

chapayev isn't really niche she's a fairly good CL with aug

[zenith shale]

https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1929961280137302313 so they won't be payed for?

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN)

Dear Commander,

Limited Collab Gear Skins will be available between 6/5 - 6/18. Participate in the collab event to earn the Gear Skins!

#AzurLane #Yostar #BLACKROCKSHOOTER

X · Jun 3, 2025, 6:00 PM

[inland shoal]

I meant she's niche if you have the top tiers

[eternal basalt]

Their skins will

[whole crypt]

if you have top tiers she doesn't have a niche

[elfin hollow]

yes

[zenith shale]

Oh it says gear skins im so dumb

[inland shoal]

She's in no way bad, but I also wouldn't MLB her over say Sandy

[elfin hollow]

whos that?

[wind hazel]

PR4 cruiser

[zenith shale]

Counter arguement: She's hot

[whole crypt]

#al-general is that way

[inland shoal]

I think she was part of a weird top comp against some odd light? boss

[wind hazel]

this one

o shit nickname leaked

[stark quiver]

mori so pro, all pr4 fs5 and d30

[forest palm]

pretty sure you earn both BRS and DM through friendship reward, that's at least what the JP notes said

[elfin hollow]

im still trying to finish PR1

[inland shoal]

Wrong ship

[inland shoal]

Don't do PRs in order

[whole crypt]

pretty sure she wasn't

[elfin hollow]

should I just do Fdr and anchorage then?

[wind hazel]

if you can develop them, yes

[stark quiver]

32nd us president

[wind hazel]

i assume that's FDG

[elfin hollow]

i was close enough lol

[wind hazel]

oui

[little tree]

[elfin hollow]

oh i need more tech points

[eternal basalt]

Then you do not have just mid UR'sm you got the very top

[stark quiver]

do ygs buy the 5k oil logger

[elfin hollow]

i spent like 200 cubes on her so im glad

[eternal basalt]

These are freely gained by doing the event.

[wind hazel]

never

[eternal basalt]

#game-news message
#game-news message
are paid

[turbid marsh]

I probably should start thinking about buying those 5k oil loggers XD

[worldly pewter]

i only didn't buy it for 1 month

[eternal basalt]

@forest palm Skins are paid content, rest of event is free

[eternal basalt]

I never bought it

[forest palm]

now I'm just confused why you're linking the outfits

[wind hazel]

because someone asked...

[forest palm]

they didn't ask about skins...they didn't specify anything as far as I can tell

[wind hazel]

ok buddy

[forest palm]

if you want to point it out by all means

[whole crypt]

guy mixed up gear skins (free)

[whole crypt]

I don't, I know a bunch of people who don't, but vast majority of people likely can't be shit to not buy it

[forest palm]

I buy the 5k oil cause I treat this game like an AFK sim, and I don't wanna go through the tedium of self clearing ops

[whole crypt]

keep in mind 5k oil is buying you convenience only, all of the shit it comes with are just fronted from zone clears

[eternal basalt]

It's the one week ops is most interesting

[deep cypress]

Okay, guys, please help me out. I just maxed out Shimanto. Who should I go for now? I have Anchorage, Agir, Kearsarge and FdGr maxed and I'm developing Cheshire, AvP and Plymouth.

[harsh gust]

5k oil logger is a massive qol and 5k oil once a month is kinda nothing

it's not necessary by any means but makes OpS more convenient especially if you're more casual player

[wind hazel]

do you have amagi cv? if not, do hakuryuu too

[whole crypt]

most players are casual enough to just use the logger yes

[deep cypress]

I have her MLB.

[elfin hollow]

what is the oil logger?

[wind hazel]

do PR7 then

[deep cypress]

Nakhimov, I guess, right?

[whole crypt]

have you played OS, up to the point of clearing ch4 there at least

[wind hazel]

yeah she's the best out of pr7

[elfin hollow]

nopeee

[whole crypt]

then it doesn't concern you in any way

[elfin hollow]

dont have a good fleet for os looking to get another healer so I dont have to keep using those repair boxes

[deep cypress]

Gotcha. Thanks.

[whole crypt]

you only need Unicorn for OS

if you have trouble with the mode maybe ask for proper fleet help

[eternal basalt]

Or zuihou, or perseus if Uni is maxed

[whole crypt]

but why would you bother swapping Unicorn out since those healers will be maxed carrying your ch12 grinds anyway

[elfin hollow]

What other ships would you suggest for OS? shall I open a thread?

[young heron]

how do u regroup and rest in opsi