gameplay-help

[static sphinx]

As a lvl 77

[hollow gust]

keep going in campaign then

[static sphinx]

Ok

[winter quartz]

I did something in war archives at the beginning, Universe in Unison I think. It was a pretty good source

[static sphinx]

It just takes a long time

[sweet delta]

I heard the D maps of this current event are good for coins

[static sphinx]

I can’t even clear the sp in the new event

I think I need to build a second fleet

[cobalt rapids]

rome wasn't built in a day

[sweet delta]

Roma was built in 5.25 hours

[stark quiver]

Will the second fleet be good
Is your first fleet event good

[static sphinx]

Well uh

It sits at about 13K for main and vanguard in the first fleet

[paper ore]

wtf is this

[hollow gust]

[golden saffron]

What happened to my pics LOL

[static sphinx]

wtf is that

[paper ore]

TV static?

[static sphinx]

Gay tv static

[golden saffron]

Let me retry I guess

[static sphinx]

Taste the rainbow

[stark quiver]

Fleet power metric doesn’t say anything

[paper ore]

i can see 6 ships above 110 in the first pic

[golden saffron]

That’s the same pictures lmao

[static sphinx]

Wow

That better than me

[paper ore]

can I steal all your bulins
I promise to never return them

[static sphinx]

Guess I suck

[golden saffron]

So I was told to swap taihou out for unicorn but anything else I should be working toward

[split gazelle]

no unicorn

[golden saffron]

I have everything to max unicorn out except for the gold at the moment

[sweet delta]

Bench Shimakaze immediately

[golden saffron]

For who

[turbid marsh]

(any gold mlb frontline is like better than that 1lb shimakaze)

[sweet delta]

Also you can just use Perseus instead of unicorn for now. For chapter 14 and 15 though unicorn will matter

[golden saffron]

Alright, uni should be done after a couple days

So just throw pompeo In shim spot?

Or I guess yudachi? Idk

I also have around 30 elite bulin I just didn’t post that so if I need to boost a elite up I can

[sweet delta]

Depends on your goals but right now you can use kitakaze

[kind slate]

to get the second copy of trafalgar, i need to get like 200 tokesn worth of event currecny right? i got the first, but i need like 200 more for the secodn.
did all event missions and minigames

[sweet delta]

But you should level up Helena sometime soon and also get aegir or anchorage or both

[normal cedar]

proto su-2 is better anti-light than helldiver? should I switch to that for dual bombers (like saratoga) in mobbing?

[golden saffron]

Helena for balti spot I’m assuming?

Someone told me I need to swap balti out but idk what for

Also should I use my bulin on trafalgar? I am about to unlock another bulin so I’ll have two. Or should I wait

[ivory pawn]

Wait until you can fully MLB to use UR bulins. Might want to save them for a bit too for Bis2 maybe.

[golden saffron]

So I should just swap taihou for Perseus and shima for kita and that’s all for now? Just level unicorn and farm? Also just keep using balti?

[polar lion]

What's the top 3 Wolfpack now? I forgor

[stark quiver]

u97,u81,u101 with aug

[polar lion]

Oh 96 got kicked aight thanks

[stark quiver]

i menat u96

[polar lion]

Oh I thot it was 37

What's the best gold CA gun?

[worldly pewter]

depends on the armor

[fast frigate]

do i have to mlb lion to use her or is 1lb or 2lb still good

[stark quiver]

you can use her at lb0
doesnt mean she'll do good

[turbid marsh]

define good.

[polar lion]

What's for HE and what's for AP?

[fast frigate]

idk more than decent ig?

[worldly pewter]

this is for he

[static sphinx]

HE are for light armour ships and AP is for medium and heavy ships I think

Nvm

Sorry

[vale spindle]

Twin 203 improved for AP

[turbid marsh]

any reason why you don't want to mlb?

[polar lion]

Thanks both of u

[turbid marsh]

like u spending bulins on other URs, or you simply lack the bulins atm?

[fast frigate]

i lack 1 bulin

[turbid marsh]

1 bulin? you get your bulin tmr.

[low juniper]

Where do I find this record file?

There's several like this too

[vale spindle]

Deep within this channel pins theres an explanation on how to record file, next month u gotta follow the specific zone clear order mentioned there to guarantee all of them

[inner delta]

the location is still pinned

[fast frigate]

from where?

[turbid marsh]

monthly shop + on monday, weekly refreshes

[fast frigate]

ohhhhh right

[vale spindle]

Cause you can only get files in order but some are first clear of a zone only

So clear order very important

[low juniper]

So I can't get them today?

[vale spindle]

No but luckily opsi reset is tmrw so u can start then

[low juniper]

Alright

I'm so close to Lion pity I'm doing whatever I can for some cubes

[vale spindle]

[low juniper]

There's also the "Perform Reconnaissance in anomalous zones"

[chrome jackal]

who sould i limit break?

[kind slate]

based on the priority, after getting a copy of glorious meta and the ur gun, i should spend everything for the 2nd traf copy?

[low juniper]

How do I do that? Is it the map coordinates?

[vale spindle]

I believe that one is rng on zone first clear only

[turbid marsh]

if lion is in the equation, lion.

[vale spindle]

theres a lot of those kinds of stars in opsi xd

[low juniper]

Why are there so many half lb ships

[river sedge]

Harlo which do i choose im pretty sure i have all of em but i wanna know whos most worth

why isnt my shit sending

[turbid marsh]

not needed, but nice to have. i aim for 2nd traf copy because i dont need the exp/oil/coin ratio from w12/15

[low juniper]

There's also the ones with the question marks and idk how to unlock them

[chrome jackal]

dont question it xD

[kind slate]

ig. even tho i already have 10 ur bulins, i still want the copy lol

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/farming#opsi_image_guides this section has opsi images might help u

[river sedge]

harlo which

[vale spindle]

Check channel pins

[turbid marsh]

yeah, im aiming for that as collection lol, and i don't really mind grinding for that second copy as im grinding it for copies of glorious XD

still no drop at 60k, so kinda coping now XD

[river sedge]

Vro theres nothin there abt 5th anniversary

[kind slate]

oh yea. i might wanna get the glorious copies as well... hmm

[vale spindle]

Oh shit ur thing is older one my bad

Pick the one you dont have

[steep merlin]

Is hindenburg better than Anchorage in my fleet? should replace eugen

[turbid marsh]

better than that z23 XD

[steep merlin]

Eugen mi is more painful to watch they told me lol

[hollow gust]

Hinden is only useful once maxed and filled with rainbow guns

[steep merlin]

rip so I guess I should go with Anchorage

I need more points tho

[hollow gust]

Any CA in pr1 works

[turbid marsh]

replace eugen all you want with anchorage. im just saying hinden dev 30 is better than z23 in my opinion

[steep merlin]

I was saying this cause I got enough points to start developing Hindenburg but not enough to develop anchorage

[hollow gust]

Then work on Roon

[steep merlin]

I have Roon she is in the second fleet

I also have Monarch and Saint Louis

[hollow gust]

Then start Ibuki

[worldly pewter]

try to get good coinable ships preferably 1 dr 1 pr

[hollow gust]

there are multiple seasons worth of ships that are better investments then hinden

[river sedge]

I have all..

[split gazelle]

then pick one that isnt mlb

[turbid marsh]

sadly hinden's niche isn't that... good compared to many others D

[river sedge]

I got this too

[turbid marsh]

top dps frontliners are... well...

[steep merlin]

You think I could replace eugen with saint louis?

[river sedge]

Dang I feel old

[sweet delta]

DPS ships are the fastest to get powercrept.
~~Unless they get better and better gear ~~

[polar lion]

Or dun use and let it be collection decor in your depot liek mine

[paper ore]

which ship is that below taihou

[river sedge]

Yehhh

[viscid swift]

Alabama

[hardy creek]

Difficulty spike for main quest happens after world 12 right?

[river sedge]

^

[viscid swift]

yes

[river sedge]

I'm so confused on everything I just came back, I don't know who to develop in Lab, I only have one functional team and I have 100 fuel gifts in mail

The UR ships i got back then is now permanent so I am cooked

[polar lion]

Collect them if not u can't receive any new mails if u currently maxed out 100/100 mails slots

[steep merlin]

how do I get more eagle union points?

[hollow gust]

obtain , mlb, levl 120

[river sedge]

But my fuel is max..

I have been doing event for the past like 2 hours and its at 20k

[hollow gust]

claimed mail goes to the mail storage

[polar lion]

Buy food if u still overcap and wanna go to sleep

[strange path]

Any good buys from the meta shop?

[stark quiver]

whatever u need

[strange path]

No particular order matters of what i buy then right

[wheat ore]

is there a way to make it so the game doesn't randomly swap your secretary?

[river sedge]

Holy shit

They added mail storage thankfully

i have 160k oil in the storage what the hell

[vale spindle]

On the home screen isnt there a toggle for automatically swapping
Or also you can just remove other ships from secretary too iirc

[normal cedar]

how much higher of a chance is it? (warspite retro skill)

[vale spindle]

No just buy the ships u dont have and any mats u need

[wheat ore]

oh there's a toggle?

[vale spindle]

I think so

Nvm there isnt im dum

[sweet delta]

i believe it is 100% chance for the first volley of the main gun and no effect for the second and third volleys or barrages

[normal cedar]

first volley of the other rn ships after warspite's volley hits that enemy ie? or first volley of the battle

[wheat ore]

oh so the only option is to deselect the other secretaries? But doesn't keeping them give affinity

[vale spindle]

Only slot 1 gives affinity

Other slots are just for ur viewing pleasure

[river sedge]

Would you guys mind giving advice on who to build next?
My team rn is Richie Shinano Unicorn Mont Z23 Prinz Eugen

I can send my roster here

[sweet delta]

first volley of every salvo

[turbid marsh]

it is best to make a thread and post it there

[river sedge]

Wokay

[wheat ore]

ah okay

[sleek spade]

Should I use the lab 113mm on Trafalgar?

[vale spindle]

Yes thats fine

[sleek spade]

Nice

Would the 100mm be better tho? Should I use UR print selections on that since I only have 3 gun prints

I’ve been saving print selections till there’s sth good in the lab

[atomic abyss]

no

[sleek spade]

Ah ok then

[atomic abyss]

not for traf at least

[sleek spade]

Mmm I see

[ornate narwhal]

Does c2 have an oil cap?

[soft raft]

no

[paper ore]

You should also craft wyverns if you havent already for the UR prints

[soft raft]

only D maps have oil cap for events

[paper ore]

2 wyverns is a good start

[ornate narwhal]

Huh for some reason my fleet costs less in c2 compared to b3

[soft raft]

are you sure it's not because the ships you're using are different

[sweet delta]

I am sure it's because c2 has fewer battles than b3

[ornate narwhal]

Ohhhhh

[river sedge]

For the event is it a must to get 3 stars on all stages

[ivory pawn]

You do get rewards for getting 3* once per stage on parts 1 and 2.

You don't need to 3* on both normal and hard, just one or the other.

[cloud fractal]

Two questions: who is the next predicted UR rerun? And do we have an ETA on Owari and Friedrich Carl?

Third question: is there a link that I can find out this information myself without having to bother people?

[strange path]

Nope

[strange path]

Someone told me it was Bismarck Zwei

[atomic abyss]

bismarck 2
owari is due to rerun with unzen, so at earliest, oct 2025

[ivory pawn]

Blaster tries to update this image every so often: #gameplay-help message
For ETAs, just find their events on wiki and add 2 years if no rerun yet.

[atomic abyss]

carl, lol who knows when
at least 2 years

[ivory pawn]

Carl was late March 2024, so fingers crossed she reruns Spring 2026.

Note they have moved around/pushed back reruns, so it's not set in stone.

[cloud fractal]

Oh son of a nugget. I started during the muse event that year.

[jaunty pecan]

so skin projection is just a method only for research ships to appear multiple times on different skin (if applicable) on your main menu?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[jaunty pecan]

and for non-research you just suck it by owning multiple copies?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[jaunty pecan]

alright

[opaque galleon]

Should I +13 the Lion gun or the Raffaello gun if I already have 3 +13 mk7s?

[hollow gust]

+13 your champog guns, why max 3 mobbing guns

[sweet delta]

what are you smoking read carefully

[opaque galleon]

Already have plenty of them

[strange path]

I should be using the lion gun on lion right is there a better gun for her?

[paper walrus]

The leftover shop vouchers stay after reset right

[opaque galleon]

Use the best gun for the content you are fighting

Lion gun is good but not against medium/heavy

[hollow gust]

I read it wrong , I blame the subway

[stark quiver]

the sandwich?

[tame jungle]

yeah like the sandwich

[soft raft]

Owari is part of Unzen event and Friedrich Karl is from Zero To Hero

[eternal basalt]

Zero to Hero rerun gives us Anson

[cobalt gate]

is there an estimate time on new research? currently just got the 3rd la9 and not sure if i should do more

[eternal basalt]

July

[ornate narwhal]

Wait there are gonna be 3 UR reruns in a row?????

[atomic abyss]

no...

[ornate narwhal]

But Guam and laffey 2 then Soyuz

[atomic abyss]

we've gotten 2 tempesta events

and they ran a new one

1 year after the first

[atomic abyss]

guam and laffey 2 were one event

[ornate narwhal]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

and there's CNY event in Jan/Feb

that comes every year

[ornate narwhal]

What’s cny?

[eternal basalt]

Guam and Soyuz were dec and feb, reruns being close together is pretty much a given, with 3 week CNY

[atomic abyss]

chinese new year

[ornate narwhal]

So it’ll be Guam+free laffey then 3 week new years then Soyuz?

[eternal basalt]

1 following new dec UR, other following new feb UR

So january, and march

[ornate narwhal]

So will they move musashi Yorktown and implacable onto the standard quickly right after each other

[atomic abyss]

🔮

they'll prolly do one at a time tho

[ornate narwhal]

I mean do they usually add the units in order of their reruns?And like how much time between?

[compact helm]

is this not upgradable? fortune meta

[atomic abyss]

in order for URs, but random

[ornate narwhal]

So it could take over a year before we see implacable?

[atomic abyss]

definitely

[eternal basalt]

I and II when MLB

[boreal wagon]

ender thats the cinders skill which is tied to MLB

[atomic abyss]

ignore me

[compact helm]

i have her on max lmb but its still not upgradable?

[ornate narwhal]

So to get all the URs I missed it might take years???

[boreal wagon]

it is not

[atomic abyss]

yes? 2 years for reruns lol

[boreal wagon]

its basically the same as All out assault skills

[compact helm]

ohhhhhh

[eternal basalt]

It will be II then, show the full screen

[atomic abyss]

at least you can get all the ships in this game lol

[ornate narwhal]

I mean the collab units prob don’t come back

[compact helm]

he said its just all out assault so not upgradable

[honest stirrup]

I forgot about something, what's the build requirement to hit pity on rerun banners? Is it 200 like any UR event or 100 because it's one week?

[eternal basalt]

AoA also improves with MLB

[atomic abyss]

200, but we get 43 build rerun tickets

[steady rain]

is it better to get u37 from war archive or merit shop?

[ornate narwhal]

So 2+ years to get all URs and all the Pr/Drs?

[boreal wagon]

for a lot of the meta skills they never actually added the I and II to the name nor description

[atomic abyss]

at least

[honest stirrup]

I'm so cooked for Bismarck zwei

[atomic abyss]

it depends on your luck lol

[eternal basalt]

Then that's a bug

[sweet delta]

yeah better put it in #bug-reports and get drowned out

[ornate narwhal]

How long does it actually take to get all them?

[atomic abyss]

[eternal basalt]

During the rerun you can use Shipbuilding Support Tickets to substitute for coin and cube pulls. A total of 44 (45 for CN/JP due to an additional daily login available) Tickets are available for the duration of the event. Tickets will expire once the event ends.

[atomic abyss]

consider that your only reliable way of getting perma URs is the perma UR pity/spark

[eternal basalt]

I'll add it to my 20 bugs to repost if not fixed by next patch

[wild whale]

are the research rates recorded somewhere? like if I want UR gear is it better to focus on purple riggings or blue, does it matter?
same question in blue is there a difference between 2:30 and 1:30 grant donations

[silk sphinx]

there's a very slight diff in this case iirc, the shorter the better

but there was a data collection thing (or multiple), i don't have the link on hand rn

same thing for Qs btw, the shorter the higher per hour

people take the longer Qs because you can at least guarantee it'll stay on that instead of rerolling onto an E or something

[eternal basalt]

For Q's you might take longer ones, since T2 and T3 parts are better available

[silk sphinx]

ah right... tbh i've been playing for like what 3.5 years now, it's not really that big of a problem

[eternal basalt]

5k t1 vs 25k t3

[wild whale]

so longer riggings shorter grants

[silk sphinx]

well

to be clearer: as a general rule, for whatever research mission, the shorter the higher efficiency within the same series

[vagrant cobalt]

Am I the only one having problem moving from captain and up in exercise?

[eternal basalt]

You need rank <1000

[ornate narwhal]

What is the rewards from the project identity

[wild whale]

you feel good

[eternal basalt]

Skins for TB/Oceana

[silk sphinx]

sometimes it's a negligible difference, but yep. Still nevertheless sometimes people pick longer ones (example 4h Qs> 1h Qs) because then at least you get a q mission for four hours, instead of 1 hour of Q then rerolling onto a trash selection of research missions after

[storm olive]

Rank <1000 and a better fleet

[ornate narwhal]

So nothing actually worth it???

[wild whale]

its a cute story where you raise your daughter it is its own reward

[silk sphinx]

or they pick a 8h Dmission to get more prints of that ship rather then getting higher print/hour but losing that particular choice

[eternal basalt]

#gameplay-help message

[silk sphinx]

i mean, what do you get when you play the game, that's right, entertainment

nobody's paying you to play, you're the one shelling out time and maybe cash

just a game built into another is all

[wild whale]

minirant; still unforgivable that you can't get bloomer tb skin

[vagrant cobalt]

Meanie

[normal cedar]

Any tips for getting 1000 medals per month, now that more spec core was added? Im finding it hard to get all the basic things i need from the medal shop, should I be farming any particular stage apart from w12?

[silk sphinx]

nope just farm normally

maybe consider what you're buying in medal shop though

[honest stirrup]

It's partially because you're not really supposed to spend 1k medals per month

[silk sphinx]

maybe can consider cutting expenses, because i spend nowhere close to that much

[honest stirrup]

The food is useless for example. Books are ok but only buy the red ones, and don't jump on the retrofit blueprints

[wild whale]

what basics do you need? I bought both SSR, both SSR Bulin, all the cores, the DR prints, all the food and all the T2/T3 books and still have 600 medals this month

[silk sphinx]

i buy food, gold books, spec core even though i have more than enough, gold dupe ships (although they're now all mlb i think), bulins

[normal cedar]

2 sr ships + 2 gold buli + 10 purple buli + 5 dr prints + 260 spec core is my aim for each month, only the most needed stuff i think...

this month so far ive gotten everything except 9 purple bulins still left

[honest stirrup]

10 purple bulins

2 sr ships

[silk sphinx]

heh i do the same (minus the sr ships because mlb), maybe i am hitting that much, just played for a long time

[honest stirrup]

what the hell are you doing with 10 purple bulins
It's not to be mean just to understand

[silk sphinx]

lbing everything

[normal cedar]

tech points via mlb purple ships

[silk sphinx]

i have 7 elite/rare/common ships that are not mlb

[honest stirrup]

Yeah but you have a lot of medals don't you

[silk sphinx]

and uh i have 99.8% collection due to the recent update

but anyways, maybe lay off on some of the purchases

[honest stirrup]

you can completely throw out the elite bulins and the 2 SR ships and you'll suddenly have a lot more medals

[silk sphinx]

even the DR prints are forgettable tbh, it's five prints for a month, and 20 each

[normal cedar]

sure, if its not possible to get them ig ill pass

just wanted to know if farming war archive or something might give more medals tho? ive heard events drop more ships

[silk sphinx]

lower gold/exp eff than w12

and i don't think drop rates are any different

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks
ill just follow the priority order for medal shop then

[kind slate]

How many more free event tokens can we get? I’m considering spending to get the 2nd copy now

[silk sphinx]

pin

in total if you didnt miss anything you only need to buy 65 tokens

[kind slate]

oh wow. what am i missing.
how many days left of event?

[silk sphinx]

UR Voucher Acquisition
Event Daily Missions - 5 vouchers/day (23 days, so 115 vouchers/event),
Clear SP - 5 vouchers/clear (23 clears, so 115 vouchers/event),
Event Minigame Rewards - 105 vouchers/event,
Event Mission "Clear B3/D3 with a new Event Ship" - 10 vouchers/ship (5 ships, so 50 vouchers/event),
Event Mission "Clear SP" - 50 vouchers/event,
Event Shop - 500 vouchers/event,
,

Total: 435 vouchers/event (Plus Event Shop)

my game isnt open rn

[kind slate]

yea its just the dailies. did everything else

[white agate]

daily + daily sp actually

[kind slate]

yea those.

[paper walrus]

all loggers should be bought right even the lower ones

[brisk wind]

Hi all, does anyone know which main guns are recommended for Lion for general purpose gameplay? Not sure if HE, SAP or AP is the way to go

[atomic abyss]

well, there's not really such thing as general purpose
but 457 for campaign/events
otherwise the purple twin 410

[silk sphinx]

nothing in her kit particularly biases her towards a certain gun type

[brisk wind]

Thanks! I'll take a look at those

[silk sphinx]

for mobbing i just stick the 457 onto her yeah

[kind slate]

didnt know 410 was that good. alwasy thought mk6 was the go-to

[atomic abyss]

mk6 is for bossing
410 is higher rof so better for mobbing

[kind slate]

right makes sense.

[brisk wind]

Is the purple 410mm the the Kai version of the other one?

[atomic abyss]

you can use the kai if you have it

[dawn hamlet]

I don't remember, what's "hidden" in OPSI?

[stark quiver]

treasurechest zome

[ivory pawn]

The yellow chest icons, the coordinate loggers.

[silk sphinx]

gold treasure chest: hidden
red treasure chest: abyssal

[dawn hamlet]

ohh okay I see, it's tied to the map coordinate object?

okay nice, thanks a bunch guys

[kind slate]

on the datamine, it says UR prints can be obtained elsewhere. is it just refering to research/medals etc?

[ivory pawn]

It says UR Vouchers. See the rest of the pin where the datamine is linked for where.

[kind slate]

my bad. thnx

[zenith pebble]

i can get arrays from hard w13-1?

[worldly pewter]

arrays are from the daily raids and event shops mainly

[weak dust]

Should be enough for harbiter right? (I'm joking) do u usually get this many stats from just doing daily opsi?

[stark quiver]

yes

[zenith shale]

So as a fairly new player, what should my priority be?
(I got Lion and Prinz yesterday)
Should I be pulling more? Should I be progressing the story? I'm kind of abit lost really.

I do wanna pull for DEAD MASTER when the upcoming collab comes

[pseudo hearth]

The upcoming event Characters will actually be free.

[stark quiver]

upcomming collab has no gacha boats

[zenith shale]

Wait actually???

[stark quiver]

yah

[pseudo hearth]

Yeah, they announced it during the Livestream

[zenith shale]

Damn okay cool! Will the skins be free too?

[tame jungle]

lol

[pseudo hearth]

No

[zenith shale]

Gotcha

[pseudo hearth]

Those will cost gems

[tame jungle]

don't spend your f2p gems on those btw

[zenith shale]

Yeah no I won't

[pseudo hearth]

You can get away with doing it once tbf. I managed to afford the Tirpitz L2D when it came out back when I was f2p.

[tame jungle]

demented take

[pseudo hearth]

You say that, but I managed it, so I'd say not so much.

[tame jungle]

always get dockspace + 6 total dorm slots

[pseudo hearth]

You don't need 6.

[tame jungle]

don't be like this guy

[pseudo hearth]

6 dorm slots is way too expensive anyway. At most 3 or 4

[zenith shale]

I hear you for sure

[tame jungle]

that's why i said 6 total, 2nd floor and 3rd slot

[silk sphinx]

they said total

[zenith shale]

How much dockspace is a good benchmark?

[tame jungle]

as much as possible

[pseudo hearth]

Ah, I misunderstood what they were getting at

[silk sphinx]

also an L2D is about ~1200 gems, that's like 60 dock slots

you'd have to be very sure of what you're doing and being willing to lose that many

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, that was an early L2D, so it was probably only like 1080

[tame jungle]

that's still 50 dock slots, or a third of your starting slots

[silk sphinx]

like seriously, there are like 700 ish ships in game

[zenith shale]

Jesus that's alot

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, at the time there wasn't Lol

[silk sphinx]

newbies already struggle with dock slots, i wouldn't rec using gems on skins

[tame jungle]

well we're not currently living in "back in the day"

[zenith shale]

And if you paid for the gems?

[tame jungle]

if you paid for the gems it's all whatever tbh

[pseudo hearth]

There were a lot of ships in WW2

[silk sphinx]

most of them are useless (though there is such a thing as fleet technology)

but also there's thing like duplicates, bulins, enhancement fodder (common ships needed to enhance stats)...

[zenith shale]

Like is there enough free gems for dockspace

[pseudo hearth]

Yeah, for a long time.

[tame jungle]

do with your money as you like, can top up a bit and then get some dock space + a skin or something
just remember to always spend responsibly

[silk sphinx]

if you started early in the game like years ago yea

nowadays unfortunately not really, there's a lot of ships, and they gave out gems on anniversaries, lunar new years and stuff

so if you weren't there, then you missed out

[zenith shale]

I got myself around 2400 gems to get Dead Master's skin and then I'm saving the other 1200 for if I get a character I really like

[zenith shale]

Ah okie

So I just have to manage well from here on out then

[silk sphinx]

that said you can still get hundreds of ships free as newbie

[hollow gust]

You don't compare gem income back then vs now . We use to get gems for every tiny mistake. Telling f2p to buy skins these days is asinine with how much lower income

[silk sphinx]

plus most ships aren't particularly useful

you have some players here who aggressively cull their docks... personally i'm a collector and have shelled out a lil cash for my dock space

[stark quiver]

they dont grind enough so wont notice -50 dock space

[pseudo hearth]

Stop misquoting me. I did not say "buy the skin".

[stark quiver]

im curious, how much dock do you have

[tame jungle]

people have and will take stuff that's written here as advice

[silk sphinx]

i mean, when i say shell out, it's not really high, just enough so i can run some runs without retiring, i buy rings so gems get lost for that

rather than saying gems for dock, it's more accurate to say i buy gems for dock to make up for ring cost

[hollow gust]

Suggesting that you can buy skins is treated the same. That's a shit idea to plant into f2p players

[silk sphinx]

and please don't fight you two

[tame jungle]

sorry

[pseudo hearth]

it's fine I'll just drop it

[silk sphinx]

sorry yeah thanks spiff

[late flame]

TL;DR : f2p dun bother buying skins

[tame jungle]

^ i will find you if you do

[zenith shale]

But there's no harm in doing so if you've already spent money on the game like I have for an upcoming skin right?

[silk sphinx]

just 750 rn

[hollow gust]

money gems =/ f2p gems, any gem income from the devs should not be spent on skins or rings

[pseudo hearth]

If you're going to spend money on gems to afford the skin though, that's up to you.

[zenith shale]

Gotcha

[silk sphinx]

well honestly if you can afford (and please don't spend money you're not willing to spend on games!) to buy gems, then do whatever (within limits, some things are more useful than others)

just that gems within the game environment are quasi-finite resources

so if you're spending some with no intention of buying more, then you're decreasing supply without really a back up plan

you still get a lot of free gems

like if i didn't spend gems on rings and some secrets lel i'd have enough for all my ships in dock still

but i started a couple years ago so doesn't apply for newbies

[zenith shale]

Totally totally
Don't stress though I spent responsibly!
I'm a huge fan of black rock shooter so I'm not too stressed spending 10 dollars for a skin for one of my favourite characters from the franchise

[pseudo hearth]

Tbf, you get exchange slips for secrets, so as long as you're not buying every single one you're not going to be eating into gems.

[zenith shale]

It's just about taking you're time I'm guessing

[silk sphinx]

they give out gems on server anniversaries, lunar new year and certain very rare events, so the older your account the more free gems you get

[zenith shale]

Speaking of annis, when is that?

[silk sphinx]

the one for EN is in mid august iirc

[hollow gust]

they have been stingy mf with gems recentlu

[zenith shale]

Thanks!

[zenith shale]

So back to this, should I just focus on the story and building out my elites?
(I also wanted to know if the only way to level a character is during battle? Cuz in other gachas you do it through some kind of material)

[pseudo hearth]

Didn’t we just get a gift with someone like a month or two ago?

[silk sphinx]

here https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

sorry wrong paste

[pseudo hearth]

Yeah, we got 200 gems on the 6th of May

[zenith shale]

Oh-
For me?

[hollow gust]

social medial milestone rewards are preplanned

[silk sphinx]

priority should be advancing through the event since there's one on rn

[pseudo hearth]

And we got 100 gems on March 7th for Maintenance

Although that was because of a delay IIRC

[silk sphinx]

as for initial fleets/teambuilding, and the more minutia things, feel free to ask here

i'm not super active here anymore unfortunately, but gph (this channel) is super active normally

[zenith shale]

Does 3 starring the event stages also give gems?

[silk sphinx]

nope, only for campaign stages

[zenith shale]

Gotcha

[silk sphinx]

gems are kind of finite that way

but you still get some rewards for 3-star on event stages, like a gold bulin for example on stage 5 or 3 (depends on events)

[zenith shale]

I also have a question about the event currency.
In the shop it says I have something like 150 of the currency
But on the mission select it's over 3k
Is the 3k like total received throughout the event? Or a different currency

[silk sphinx]

hmmm... please send a pic?

bc there's a lot of different currencies in game, so there's a chance of confusion

[zenith shale]

Sorry for all the questions I'm so new.
Like I'm trying to carry over my knowledge from other gachas and it's not the same

[silk sphinx]

hah people here love to answer qs... some people spend hours on it

[weary gust]

You probably have 150 vouchers, not the main event currency.

Or 150 gems.

red gem = premium currency you 99% only get through spending money.
yellow coin = coins, main currency of the game.
lion medal thing = UR voucher token for Trafalgar.
red/silver medal thing = event currency.

[zenith shale]

Map menu

[weary gust]

That's the main event currency.

[strange path]

Im assuming you mean the event currency. There’s two types. One can be used to trade for the UR ship Trafalgar. The other can be used for most other things in the shop.

On mission select that’s how many you have accumulated total

[zenith shale]

Event shop

[zenith shale]

Ohhh! Okay thanks

[weary gust]

That first picture is your total earned, that bottom one is your current amount you have. You've spent some. The total is relevant for milestone rewards.

[strange path]

^

[zenith shale]

Thank you!

Also is there enough rosen emblems in the first time completion of the stages or do I need to grind one stage after completing all of them?

[weary gust]

You will need to grind a lot to buy all useful items from shop. First time completion alone only will net you around 10k.

[silk sphinx]

by the way we send this guide to pretty much every newbie

some stuff on teambuilding might not apply since you have lion who is a powerhouse and might do well even at 0lb

but yep, read the doc, come back for any questions or further help

if you have any questions about language (gph people are very lazy, we use a lot of abbreviations), feel free to ask

[strange path]

How far can you get in the event?

[silk sphinx]

enough rosen for what?

[pseudo hearth]

Did you mean to respond to me?

[silk sphinx]

uh did i ping you

[pseudo hearth]

Here

[silk sphinx]

whoops my bad sorry

[zenith shale]

I'm struggling on part 2 stage 1

[zenith shale]

Trafalgar

[pseudo hearth]

It’s fine, I was just more confused. I’m not really all that bothered by the pinging itself.

[strange path]

Is it the hard one or normal. B1 or D1

[zenith shale]

Normal

[strange path]

Unfortunately trafalgar may be out of the question

[silk sphinx]

well you technically can get her free

even without farming much at all iirc

[zenith shale]

The doc is really helpful, I've been watching YouTube tutorials and I've been left more confused than not

[strange path]

If you cant farm the event easily and efficiently (ends in less than 2 weeks i think), it will be rather difficult to farm enough rosen emblems to trade for the other currency to get Trafalgar

[zenith shale]

Aw :(

[strange path]

But you got lion right

[silk sphinx]

UR Voucher Acquisition
Event Daily Missions - 5 vouchers/day (23 days, so 115 vouchers/event),
Clear SP - 5 vouchers/clear (23 clears, so 115 vouchers/event),
Event Minigame Rewards - 105 vouchers/event,
Event Mission "Clear B3/D3 with a new Event Ship" - 10 vouchers/ship (5 ships, so 50 vouchers/event),
Event Mission "Clear SP" - 50 vouchers/event,
Event Shop - 500 vouchers/event

[zenith shale]

I did! Which I'm happy about :>

[silk sphinx]

the UR voucher are the things you need to get trafalgar

[strange path]

Oh right you can get 105 vouchers from event

Nevermind it could be very possible in two weeks

[silk sphinx]

in total you can get 435 total free, but a lot is locked behind say reaching B3 or SP

B3 is pretty easy, but might be a challenge for very new players

sp is more of a challenge/impossibility, lvls for that stage are around 100-110 iirc?

that said you should still be able to get her free if you push

[zenith shale]

I'm not seeing the event daily missions so I've probably completed them, where would the UR vouchers go?

[silk sphinx]

so here

the first is the event shop, you see the "Winged Crest UR Voucher". the second is in the events menu, you can check every day

[strange path]

I think it may be 110-115, i cant do it with a avg 110 fleet

[strange path]

Head under you missions tab its next to the build tab, click events

[silk sphinx]

really? i 1:1 with uni/some dd

though granted they're 125

[strange path]

[silk sphinx]

i do use a second 1:1 fleet for boss

out of ammo debuff is terrible

[zenith shale]

OH THE UR VOUCHERS ARE THE STUPID EMBLEM THINGS

[silk sphinx]

yep

[zenith shale]

I don't know if my team is strong enough

[silk sphinx]

for sp no chance probably

[opaque galleon]

Can I get a link for the up to date fleet tool?

[silk sphinx]

for b3... level is around 57 for enemies

i'd say you can reach that just fine with vigorous farming

[pseudo hearth]

You’re a real one LOL.

[silk sphinx]

if you're missing some, just buy ur vouchers with rosens (the event currency)

[silk sphinx]

uh... it's common practice for a lot of players no? for sp stage

just slug in lv125 1:1 uni + ddg or ur dd, plus boss fleet

[tame jungle]

yep, high-invested accounts should be able to do it pretty easily

[pseudo hearth]

I’ve never done it since the oil cap. Though tbf, I like to grind for XP.

[silk sphinx]

sp has no oilcap i think?

[tame jungle]

sp has no oil cap

[pseudo hearth]

Oh does it? I’ve never noticed

[tame jungle]

so being able to do it for like 200 oil is pretty nice

[pseudo hearth]

Maybe I should break Minnie back out

[silk sphinx]

you mean the one from renhex?

[dawn zealot]

Same. I still just roll with more ships that aren't 125. Getting xp for the run just feels right

[strange path]

What’s an oilcap?

[opaque galleon]

Yeah but I found it, so nvm

[stark quiver]

/oilcap psa

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[stark quiver]

back when sam was green 👴

[pseudo hearth]

He was Irish?

[silk sphinx]

better. a wiki contributor

[dawn zealot]

[strange path]

Ah so oil cap is a good thing for farming right

[dawn zealot]

Yeah

[strange path]

Yippee

[silk sphinx]

-oil cost (capped), -headache of oil cost minmaxxing, +clearing rewards

[pseudo hearth]

Yep. It used to not exist, which meant we had to get creative with lots of 1:1 farming fleets.

Or 2:1

[silk sphinx]

also some people objectively slaved themselves in game from retiring ships for oil for ever more grinding

that was removed, in exchange for oil cap and sanity for every player

[strange path]

I remember years ago when i leveled Cassin Downes and Terror to farm 3-4

[silk sphinx]

you still can, i use Cass/downes+ranger lb0 for A1-B3

[strange path]

Good to know

is uni still the best healer to use right now? I havent leveled her because ive been using perseus

[silk sphinx]

yes

[strange path]

Oki doki

[silk sphinx]

perseus was, then unicorn got her retrofit

[agile patrol]

What do I do with my medals?
What buy? What do? What does?

[strange path]

I always cash out on specialized core first

[silk sphinx]

newbie? then yeah spec core probably... the gold bulins are also nice if you can afford them

i see you already bought a SR ship

[agile patrol]

do i buy both the 6 and 10 medal ones?

[stark quiver]

always

[agile patrol]

yep i got san diego

[silk sphinx]

unless you're an old player

[agile patrol]

i'll buy the spec cores and then bulins if i have extras (i wont)

[silk sphinx]

it's the end of month so uh yeah

[agile patrol]

speakingof spec cores. do i use them on the UR Bulin
ill be able to afford it

[silk sphinx]

you pretty much only ever use them on the UR bulin

you might use some for a retrofit but the main use is getting UR bulins

don't buy them until you need one immediately, you can buy infinitely many whenever (this is to save of dock space)

[agile patrol]

ive just bought, my first ever UR bulin
this is a milestone 🔥

[silk sphinx]

congrats

[strange path]

Woohoo

[agile patrol]

oh uhhh, someone told me to get UR bulins asap

[silk sphinx]

well it's just to save on dock space

[agile patrol]

i have a sovetsky soyuz but, i replaced her for Penny cuz i couldnt limit break her

[silk sphinx]

since you can buy whenever you want, there's no point in keeping one in dock instead of in spec core currency

but yeah limit break your ships asap as a general rule

[agile patrol]

ill limit my soyuz

[strange path]

Does the probability of me getting a gold retrofit blueprint go up the later the world in hard mode?

[silk sphinx]

maybe (tm)

[stark quiver]

it goes up a lot after chapter 3 hm

[silk sphinx]

does apply for earlier chapters

but for the latest ones, who knows for sure

[tawdry halo]

morning chat, I've been thinking of improving my boss fleet so I want to ask some questions. So, is Shinano better comparing to Enterprise? And then how good is Trafalgar comparing to Helena retro

[stark quiver]

enty hitting owarida is better if theyre both standalone

if helena procs shes better than trafalgar in terms of fleet contrib

[silk sphinx]

is this for campaign?

[tawdry halo]

ok so, here's the comparison I need to see through
Implacable, Lion and Shinano vs Implacable, Lion and Enterprise

[stark quiver]

what abt them

[tawdry halo]

probably for general use (PVP if possible)

[silk sphinx]

pvp is its own beast

general use... isn't a thing...

[late flame]

lol pvp

[stark quiver]

lol pvp

[tawdry halo]

campaign, challenge, hardmode, event, whatever,,,

[silk sphinx]

there's campaign, opsi, pvp, challenge each of which have their own fleetbuilding strategies (which also vary for specific use case)

[tawdry halo]

[stark quiver]

theres no semblence of synergy in either fleet, theyre both bad

[late flame]

TL;DR equip according to what you fight

[silk sphinx]

pvp check in their channel, most gph don't care much about pvp

challenge mode is niche since no rewards, and is very challenging anyways.

opsi and campaign ask here if you're lazy or want help

[late flame]

or devs being funny to see how much shit they can pull on challengers

[hollow gust]

challenge mode is just damage checks

[stark quiver]

challenge mode is easy

[silk sphinx]

for endgame players sure

[late flame]

its an easy ||skip considering the rewards||

[silk sphinx]

campaign/hardmode/event will take similar fleetbuilding though sure

[tawdry halo]

ok so go for that first

with the earlier questions of mine

[silk sphinx]

so shinano works best with her faction buff unlocked, and helena basically can lead to huge gains for timed strikes for bossing

idk what your boss fleet looks like but if it's a full one with two other JP ships I'd go with Shinano every time

as for helena vs trafalgar, i'd probably go with trafalgar as a general usecase (lol) unless you're trying to minmax damage specifically ig in specifically a boss fight

[tawdry halo]

Here's the ss of what I have rn and what I'm currently having in mind for the future

And Portland will be replaced with Anchorage

[kind slate]

what does rumey do?

[hollow gust]

stay with helena and enty; you will not have bulins to make them usable

[silk sphinx]

big light/med damage

[tawdry halo]

I'm just asking for the future

[tame jungle]

in the future you might have different options

[stark quiver]

ask when its the future

[tawdry halo]

Ight, thx

[kind slate]

Who would you recommend mlb. I can get 10 bulins rn.
I was thinking trafalgar lion and rumey but Raffaelo also nice ig

[hollow gust]

do lion and trafalgar

[kind slate]

how abt rumey. or save for now

[late flame]

save

[hollow gust]

save yeah

cause you literally wont have a use for rumey other then campaign and there are vviable replacementrs

[kind slate]

when does musashi get added to pity?

[stark quiver]

also gph, after a week or something for lion to level skills
whatre the impressions of her

[hollow gust]

evemtually,not like you need her anyway

[hollow gust]

well what did you expect, by far the highest dps bb ingame

[silk sphinx]

honestly prob won't change that much

[stark quiver]

i dont do damage calcs so wouldnt know, i js heard shes good

[late flame]

sir, this is a gacha

[silk sphinx]

not sure where to fit in traf tbh, will have to recheck opsi, but lion is getting an immediate swap

[hollow gust]

z52 trafalgar plymouth

[stark quiver]

for bb fleet?

[late flame]

i refuse to ditch helena

[viscid swift]

my impression is that she's quite good in PvP

[stark quiver]

I do agree

how many days left for event

[undone plover]

is kirov M debuff similar to helena where it doesnt get pushed by the 1.5s summoning sickness?

[worldly pewter]

12

[stark quiver]

so 120 more traf thingies

[tawdry halo]

now that I think about it, in terms of tanking, how good does Anchorage perform comparing to Roon, Agir and Plymouth?

[stark quiver]

shes better than roon and ply, and agir in some situations

[hollow gust]

anchorage use is more widespread then anchor, plymouyth tanking is generally limitesting

[silk sphinx]

plymouth tanking is just damage minmaxxing and she's fairly sturdy

[tawdry halo]

I'm glad I didnt focus research on the wrong tanker

I guess Roon will probably be the mob's tanker

[late flame]

you will eventually drop roon once agir and anchorage are fully developed

[hollow gust]

meh roon can tank basically everythihng under w15 and dps far exceeds agir

[tawdry halo]

which is a pretty long future (considering I dont even have enough point to research both of them yet, but I already have enough prints to dev30 Anchorage)

[late flame]

b-but my cope agir slow

[tawdry halo]

11

[tawdry halo]

also how good is that main gun comparing to the Lion's gun (the UR gun in shop)

[hollow gust]

ment for different things, Lion gun is for single target dps against light

[stark quiver]

its fast and good for mobbing

[silk sphinx]

also one is for light, the other AP (so med/heavy)

[tawdry halo]

right

[late flame]

ok i'm sold
https://youtu.be/GlSXZnrM6F4?si=hM18_FKZZ4r2jmIi&t=60

[stark quiver]

nomis got sold

[hollow gust]

dont forget lion killed qe meta without using a single meta ship , all you need to know

[forest palm]

isn't that mostly due to her burn duing a metric fuck ton

[hollow gust]

1.8k burn a tic

[forest palm]

and it tic's indefinitely...so silly

[late flame]

cant wait for it to get patched

[forest palm]

well if they wanted to they would've, that said they actually "fixed" a bug of Lion's though

[silk sphinx]

the lion does not concern itself with being balanced

they did? oh iirc

[late flame]

the crossfleet thing revealing CVs

and we were so close to Tier N with mogador amirite

[silk sphinx]

tier n? mogador? haven't heard of that... but haven't been very active here lately

[late flame]

that was callback to mogador having the bug that killed herself to torps

[atomic abyss]

to anything

[silk sphinx]

that i do remember

they didn't change that much though iirc

[late flame]

alas that was patched

[silk sphinx]

i remember people wanting her to be invulnerable during

[late flame]

so i wont be surprised if lion does get nerfed somewhere along the line, tbh

[silk sphinx]

gacha games pretty much never nerf

[late flame]

cygames says hi

[forest palm]

in most cases it's illegal

[silk sphinx]

i wouldn't say illegal so much as it would piss off players

nobody wants to see someone they pulled/paid for suddenly being devalued

[late flame]

||try grandbluefantasy||

[silk sphinx]

no

[forest palm]

I have for over 10 years

[hollow gust]

AL with constant balance chances will be a nightmare

[late flame]

imagine raising to lv130 now

[undone plover]

what guns are best for cleo/gallant?
anyone know?

[late flame]

cleo? i'm using triple 155 kai
gallant i just stick with standard dd options

[strange path]

Independence > Saratoga ?

For poverty* i have no better carriers i dont think

[atomic abyss]

while independence sees more use late game, i wouldnt put it as one > the other

and usually, people get sara before indep

[late flame]

kinda also depends on what you are fighting, and who else is in the fleet

[atomic abyss]

that said if you have both and neither are raised, indep would be a better investment

natural stagger helps with mobbing and campaign more since those value wave clearing, even if her dmg isnt as high as sara

also a pretty good cross fleet

and 4 fighters + 4 wyverns is pretty nice for AA

[pseudo hearth]

Saratoga is definitely good though.

For a SSR CV

[unreal star]

how is taihou as the 3rd sakura empire CV against heavy along with shinano and hakuryuu? I don't have amagi or musashi, and so I'm thinking about maxing taihou for that slot.

[atomic abyss]

use fate sim 5 august or better still, implacable

so your torps actually hit stuff

if you lack either, then you can consider ark

or if you use eld retro, shoukaku not taihou since she has more TBs and buffs Haku and Nano
...though i would rather use another UR CV at that point

[pseudo hearth]

Taihou herself is alright, but if you're at the part of the game where you have Nano and Haku up, you probably have better options at that point.

[unreal star]

so the 3 IJN ship req for shinano's 3rd doesn't matter that much? or do i need one in vanguard

[atomic abyss]

you bank on kazagumo, a destroyer instead

which is one of the best carrier buffers out there

[pseudo hearth]

Definitely one of the best choices

[unreal star]

hmmm k. looks like I need to get kazagumo.

[atomic abyss]

conveniently, she is in the DD medal shop pool

[hard gorge]

I've heard a lot about Lion being really, really strong? Is this true or is this Lion propaganda

[silk sphinx]

yes very very stronk

features in probably all top bb fleets

highest bb dps rn

anyways def top 2

can someone remind me over how much time sub call refreshes to 0 in opsi?

[hard gorge]

Oh hell yeah, I just got her and I'm not too sure if I should put her in a boss fleet or a mob fleet

[silk sphinx]

she'll do great in both. prob mob fleet for now for farming/levelling

that long?? huh

[late flame]

yeah
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Submarine_Support

2 years?

[cobalt rapids]

d7p is the only one noticeable

[chrome fiber]

Holy sh i almost totally forgot about this. Just sum hours left. What should i get from this shop?

[late flame]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[hard gorge]

Oh for sure, I'll level her for now, and if I'm gonna put her in a mob fleet, you think she's better than FDR?

[cobalt rapids]

check the endgame tierlist in /tierlist command but tldr shes great at aa with good tankiness and ok dmg so mostly for ch15

[late flame]

struggles to remember who FDR uh you mean FDG

[silk sphinx]

this has to be a bug

[cobalt rapids]

yw

[chrome fiber]

How many of the white and black shell should i get?

[hard gorge]

oh LOL right FDG not FDR

[silk sphinx]

3 sets of white

[cobalt rapids]

3 white and 1-2 blackshells

[chrome fiber]

Alright i have 3 and 2 now as for the chip should i buy them all each time

[sinful escarp]

preferrably get more, so you wont have to switch gears in opsi if you are using more than 3 bb

[polar lion]

Shud I buy energy storage device if I dun plan to use them?

[sinful escarp]

they convert to points so i think yes

[cobalt rapids]

yes, and buy other stuff like cv timing aux, ddg stuff(if needed ) and subs stuff ( if needed ) if u rly wanna buy more shells as some1 else suggested

[weary gust]

?

[cobalt rapids]

the mods window is bugged and u cannot read the text

[late flame]

text got beeeeg

[chrome fiber]

The chip in the core shop is so expensive yet so little i think its because i have hoarded a bunch.. how much is much really?

[cobalt rapids]

depends how much u grind tech or not

[late flame]

also, when i set keqing i mean ying swei as main secretary with her swimsuit,
it goes back to her default skin in guild member list lol

[chrome fiber]

Constantly grinding tech

[cobalt rapids]

then tens of thousands can be snapped in seconds

[chrome fiber]

a.. ma gad

[late flame]

i legit whale for chips so thats how fast i'm burning thru them (levelling ships for tech)
having said that it really depends, since if you are new it's gonna be awhile before you start running low

[cobalt rapids]

i also legit whale for chips

[chrome fiber]

Yeah probably.. since i somehow got 690k and thought i would never run out of them

[meager tiger]

does trp stat affect CV damage or is carrier damage solely based on avi stat and any relevant modifiers/buffs

[cobalt rapids]

well thats a healthy stockpile

[late flame]

nice

[stark quiver]

this mf have 700k cogs

[chrome fiber]

Since im having more trouble leveling them up then spending chip

[cobalt rapids]

yes its mostly based on avi but u can check aldb for odd weapons ( like fritz guns ) who may scale off other stuff on aldb

[polar lion]

Tell me u dun grind tech without telling me u dun grind tech

[chrome fiber]

i mean its reasonable haven't spend any chip for almost a year

[meager tiger]

also, are the regular pr ships from series 6 and 7 even really relevant in face of rainbow ship spam for all endgame content?

[viscid swift]

so you haven't even leveled any of the new URs then, that's legit

[meager tiger]

obviously shimanto has her place in w15 but im talking like bayard/flandre/halford/daisen

[silk sphinx]

well a bit

[meager tiger]

i got them to 120 and maxed their skills and enhanced them to max but other than that i dont use them

[cobalt rapids]

shimanto is relevant in campaign
flandre is gold bb in UR bb era
felix irrelev
daisen see flandre
halford lmao
bayard is good but generic so kinda irelev

[meager tiger]

so they just sit there and take away dock space

[stark quiver]

no

[chrome fiber]

My last UL lvl up was amagi and its not even at 120

[cobalt rapids]

they give tech

[stark quiver]

they sit in lab never to be completed

[meager tiger]

back in my day, PR ships were actually good

[stark quiver]

i doubt it

[cobalt rapids]

they are good but stuff is gooder

[meager tiger]

cough anchorage cough avp cough cheshire cough seattle

except hindenburg and plymouth now make any non UR vanguard dps look like wet napkin throwers

sandy with augment too

[cobalt rapids]

all of those fit the same bil for ppl with rainbow docks

[stark quiver]

anchorage is good
avp is good
chesh is good for her niche
xeattle is ass

hinden is niche af

[silk sphinx]

they were good once upon a time

what do you mean hinden niche

[cobalt rapids]

the only way to make gold relevant between rainbow spam is well to make em rainbow good ? idk if u want that

[silk sphinx]

but yeah, lately they've been pumping out URs

[eager mulch]

[stark quiver]

i mean when do you ever use her
she has nothing special other than big damage
maybe in ops but nowhere else

[silk sphinx]

I'm using her rn in opsi

[late flame]

~~ redhead team in pvp defence fleet~~

[silk sphinx]

and in guild boss ig, she gets very high personal damage

[weary gust]

opsi mobbing and guild boss are where I use hinden

[meager tiger]

remember when drake was good?

[late flame]

was drek ever good

[meager tiger]

[chrome fiber]

As for just chip and shell. Should i really buy anything from the middle priority or should the high priority be the main thing for a while.

[silk sphinx]

rn using hinden in opsi mob, she consistently gets mvp over unicorn

[cobalt rapids]

memory lane isnt open till our anniversary

im using akagi in my opsi mobbing

[weary gust]

Drake was "good" back when she was released and there were zero front line units that had any kind of respectable dps.

[late flame]

i used akagi ||µ||

[meager tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/akagi-seseren-gif-839985656269816401

[worldly pewter]

no gifs remove before u get bonked

[meager tiger]

mfw NJ was the epitome of BB damage in 2021 when she released and now is relegated to mediocrity because soyuz/lion/alsace exists

cant forget biswei

[polar lion]

Woops replying wrong peep

[chrome fiber]

May i get sum answers though

[cobalt rapids]

middle priority is on a need basis
but cv timing auxes are good to have anytime

[chrome fiber]

Okai il grab her whenever then

[worldly pewter]

someone linked the core data chart for him

[cobalt rapids]

her

[silk sphinx]

they have it since they mentioned mid priority

[worldly pewter]

her

[chrome fiber]

Got a ss of it now 😂

[meager tiger]

i remember seeing people asking the irl new jersey HPA alliance who currently takes care of the ship as a museum how they felt about her being personified as a huge tiddy bunny girl in a chinese videogame and it was the funniest shit

[polar lion]

U can just buy everything u want. U will hav too much core data after playing long enuf that they just collecting dust coz in the end u just buy monthly cogs and arrays

[silk sphinx]

newbies will still have to save up though... and newbies is a relative term when the game has lasted for years

[sinful escarp]

even before if you do daily hard mode, you should have enough cores to buy what you want

[silk sphinx]

eventually (tm)

[chrome fiber]

Do y'all have enough to buy the whole shop each reset? Rich

[cobalt rapids]

thats impossible

[worldly pewter]

most of the shop is 🚮

[silk sphinx]

the whole shop uh no, but everything useful yes

[sinful escarp]

we buy what is needed and let the rest stockpile

[late flame]

also not all things are shop should be bought

[cobalt rapids]

the income is not close at all to the price of the whole shop

[silk sphinx]

barring events, you get ~100 core/day

[chrome fiber]

Unless saving up ig

[silk sphinx]

which... isn't that much

[worldly pewter]

30 per run in w13

[silk sphinx]

+5 from daily mission

[chrome fiber]

As for monthly i guess that's actually quite small damn..

[silk sphinx]

it's mostly that once you've bought the gear and unique ships, you just have nothing else useful to buy when it refreshes except the cognitive stuff

[barren token]

Does anyone know the % damage difference between the SB2C and the BTD? such as how much is being left on the table by using +10 BTD

[silk sphinx]

it's not that the income is high, it's that expenditure eventually falls off a cliff

[cobalt rapids]

its quite big
dont use btds

[chrome fiber]

Do i still gain xp from the ship that is 125? Or 120 that is max capped xp. For research tech?

[silk sphinx]

yes

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[cobalt rapids]

like 20% more than btd or something

[chrome fiber]

oh

[strange path]

What ships did you guys use for Iron blood pr? Both main and vanguard.

[silk sphinx]

any

[chrome fiber]

I just built one random

I had like 110k oil in storage mailbox. And after this event im down too 5k now i am experiencing lack of oil

[cobalt rapids]

why did u spend 105k mail oil in this event ?

[sinful escarp]

you spent too much man

after getting all gold plates i dont think there is any point in farming the event

event at 35k points its still enough to stop

[white herald]

i want to use fritz rummy on my main fleet but who to replace tho

[stark quiver]

sashi mayb

[white herald]

goodbye sushi

its nice using you

[polar lion]

why u want to use fritz? to fight who?

[white herald]

idk i wanna test my fleets anyway 🤷‍♂️

[meager tiger]

1944 germany simulator

[white herald]

oh and for alsace should i keep her or use either fdg or bi2

[worldly pewter]

boot out alsace and musasi and use indep + aquila or something

[white herald]

oka

[chrome fiber]

I really like alsace wanted to buy her skin. speaking of her. When will she get a rerun?

[white herald]

Hmmm she ran like

[worldly pewter]

1.1y

[white herald]

yeah about that that may be her rerun

[chrome fiber]

Great

[meager tiger]

what is raffaelo good for

[white herald]

me

[meager tiger]

[stark quiver]

mobbing

[worldly pewter]

i like her barrage wipe that is it

[meager tiger]

so just inferior lion?

[stark quiver]

not for mobbing

[worldly pewter]

raff is a support ship mainly

[white herald]

okay i added aquilaaushah but then who next (ignore my lb i either dont have money or bps and im planning to figure out who to lb next

[worldly pewter]

we just need to see how w16 will look like we might need her

[worldly pewter]

what is ur question again ?

[white herald]

who should i replace but then i kinda changed my mind, for the new question is what should i use to grind out on section clearing

[worldly pewter]

do u mean opsi map exploration ?

[white herald]

yayayay

[worldly pewter]

aquila percy uni i think hurry up the reset is in 5 hours

earlier i lost an entire opsi run because i was relying on the 32th day of the month and got kicked out at the reset time

[white herald]

oh dang-

thank u

[slim dawn]

what's the op siren middle final boss armor this month

[polar lion]

med

[slim dawn]

thankis

[heavy zealot]

This drops in aurora noctis... Right?

[rigid onyx]

farming maps for gear drops is a waste

[warped acorn]

how shit is this

[late flame]

it has niche uses, but otherwise trash

[warped acorn]

so theres barely any ship that using this

[strange path]

alternatively what is the best way to farm good equipment?

[late flame]

tech box (compile from pink > blue > purple then open, *exception being iris and pasta blue tech boxes)

[heavy zealot]

Oh.... What do i do then ;-;

[strange path]

i meant for gold gear

[late flame]

farm event

[heavy zealot]

Already got both trafalgar and the gun.. what else do i need

[stark quiver]

use f6f hellcat

[carmine heath]

does the enemy level difference work in your favour?

[strange path]

theres other good guns from the event?

[stark quiver]

not always

[stark quiver]

shop gun is good

[carmine heath]

I'm using them to meet hard mode AA requirements

[strange path]

the lion one?

[heavy zealot]

Where it from :3

[heavy zealot]

Good for lion... ?

[worldly pewter]

it is not about the ships
it is about the content

[warped acorn]

oh phew requirement equipment

[stark quiver]

eagle union tech boxes

[grand solar]

So if I read the event FAQ once I get a copy of Glorious META I don't need to spend the points to buy the crystals?

[stark quiver]

if u dont wnna limit break her then u dont need to spend points to buy the crystals

[agile furnace]

if a salvo/aircraft gets launched during Helena's radar scan but the scan goes away before salvo/aircraft hits the target, does the damage buff still apply or is it gone?

[grand solar]

Well it says that crystals will be made available after the event. So if I get her one time I can just wait till the put her in the shop.

[strange path]

eventuallyu she'll get put into the meta shop but it's not right away i dont believe

[stark quiver]

crystal frags dont come in plenty, so better grind a bit and get the crystals in event shop

[strange path]

especially since they're not very expensive in the event shop^

[stark quiver]

cuz buff applies for only 10 seconds, airstrikes/salvos do not stop the timer

[grand solar]

I don't know 8k for crystals sounds pretty damn expensive and time consuming than its worth.

[worldly pewter]

glorious is SSR she will be put into a dossier

[viscid swift]

considering you earn well over 60k event points by doing basically the bare minimum

(daily SP, normal mode first clear of the day, etc)

[grand solar]

🤨

Um...I basically been doing that and havr done that in previous events....and never got anywhere near that much. Best I have been able to get doing just that....is like between 40-50k.

[stark quiver]

then dont and use an even more time gated resource on somethig that you couldve gotten easily

you just dont grind enough then

[viscid swift]

this event lasts over 3 weeks

[strange path]

i mean if you never plan on using her then it's not the biggest deal

[stark quiver]

shes cv rld

[worldly pewter]

how much event currency by just doing the daily missions and x3 stages +sp ?

[stark quiver]

go calculate it

[worldly pewter]

i m doing the stages now

[viscid swift]

without factoring those one time missions or the build 3 cubes a day mission

[stark quiver]

why does it take the size of a full image

[next saffron]

how to unlock event SP stage?

[viscid swift]

with those one time missions

[viscid swift]

clear D3

[worldly pewter]

60k with just doing the dailies

[viscid swift]

if you do 3 builds a day it's even more

[worldly pewter]

even a slaccer like me wouldn't have any issues reaching 55k

[stark quiver]

doing daily first clears for event is such a drag

[grand solar]

Okay. For starters, do no use that excuse on me ever again. Second please excuse me for having a life that you know REQUIRES my attention to you maintain my life as it stands with my own standard bills that need paying and require a rather huge portion of my already precious time. So do not use that tired excuse with me for using all my time to make sure I can continue living.

I am sorry if this comes across in tone of anger. As yes I do admit it kind of does and I apologize ahead of time to the server mods, but I do feel the need to express myself to that sort of critism. It is a game and one I do love to play, but as an adult my time is a precious resource that must be spent wisely and comments like one listed above to nothing but rile me up. Once more I apologize to the community at large and mean no disrespect to the community, as the advice I have received over the years has been helpful and useful for my continued enjoyment of the game.

[worldly pewter]

i think u are a little bit over sensitive to alpha's comment
u have all the rights to not do as anyone here is telling u to do

[wind oxide]

Chill bruh

[grand solar]

If it seems like I am overly sensitive to it, then yeah maybe I am. I have had that excuse used on me more times than I can count. So yeah I've gotten sick of hearing to the point of it angers me when it happens. Part of the reason why it rankles me, is that it makes me feel like someone is talking down to or belittling me and it also quite frankly sounds quite elitist.

So once more I offer my apologies to the server for my outburst. I only intended to express my displeasure in a meaningful and conscience manner and in such a way so as to not be banned or time outed or some sort of punishment for my responding to a comment that caused me discourse enough to voice it.

[worldly pewter]

i personally would take it like this
if someone tells me u don't grind enough
i would respond with
i don't have time

[inner delta]

why even continue, if you want to do that do it in dm

[hollow gust]

[honest sequoia]

this made my morning

[worldly root]

w crashout

[heavy zealot]

Do i do anything with these?

[stark quiver]

analyze data packs

[heavy zealot]

The proto shop, do i buy anythin?

[stark quiver]

how much of these do you have

[solar lily]

champy gun <3

[slender linden]

can I put her with Vanguard

[stark quiver]

yea

[solar lily]

yeah

[slender linden]

help me make a backline lineup for her Ill be using it for OpSi

[heady heron]

How to unlock SP on Ultra rare Event?

Only have Stage 1 And 2

[boreal wagon]

you have to clear D3 which is the hard mode of B3, to toggle hardmode click B3 and look at the bottom left corner

[heady heron]

Ah Thanks

But my ships are too Weak sadge

[versed forum]

is UR Design more rare than electronics? i thought electronics were the most rare opsi mats, only have these plus 5 UR selectors

[carmine heath]

Is Kii any good in general?

[spring bolt]

kinda close to bottom tier gold bb, just level her for 2 fp if you care about tech

[spring bolt]

electronics aren't rare, just large consumption
usually UR design is more likely to limit your gear numbers, electronics will be an issue only if you don't spend wisely

[stark quiver]

Dfg is back

[vale flicker]

is that the best thing to use prototype cores for?

[worldly pewter]

if u don't have 2 of them hurry up and buy the prints before the reset

[vale flicker]

phew just checked I have 3, what else do I spend the prototype cores on then

[worldly pewter]

rainbow gear

[sharp echo]

what usually good to buy in this store? i already bought shells and the yellow oxy

[ivory pawn]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[vale flicker]

which one to prio

[ivory pawn]

Assuming you have no rainbow gear at all, it's usually Tenrai first.

[vale flicker]

ty

[ivory pawn]

Second is a bit more debatable, but based on /protocore it's between Quad 152 and Twin 457.

[sharp echo]

o ty

[rose pebble]

From 7am to 12pm i still can't clear 14-3 💀

[stark quiver]

you might need new fleet and gear change, 14-2 gets exponentially harder