gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

Air superiority shd help a fair bit, as will the carrier screen clears

shinano probably is missing half her ryuuseis

[viscid swift]

swap the Wyvern on Unicorn and Breguette on Shinano

also, do you not have amother Stagg for Unicorn or Amagi CV/Haku to pair with Shinano

[wind oxide]

hello Ryza Collab rerun in July probly

[atomic abyss]

also unactivated shinano is

[kind slate]

good point. ill replace soyuz with amagi then.

[ornate narwhal]

What’s the chance to get the meta ship on B3

[atomic abyss]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[agile patrol]

Should I level the units in my fleet up to max manually? Or do I level them through Campaign? What do

[atomic abyss]

you typically use exp books to get someone to catch up with the fleet

not to level an entire fleet

[teal cedar]

Would Lion be a good flagship BB?

[atomic abyss]

she doesnt need to be in flag, but yes she would be

[leaden garden]

Is Wyvern and Proto Spearfish worth getting? or should i stick with Proto Tenrai

[atomic abyss]

tenrai is a dive bomber

[silk sphinx]

tb vs db

[worldly pewter]

u didn't get a sara drop from any place ? get indep i guess

[atomic abyss]

wyvern and spearfish are torpedo bombers
different planes

[leaden garden]

oh right forgot but are they worth getting?

[atomic abyss]

the answer is, ignore spearfish and get wyverns

[leaden garden]

ahh alright thanks

[kind slate]

guys is this better.

[warped acorn]

no proto core

[viscid swift]

now swap Z52 and Shimanto around

also did you not read what I wrote first

[kind slate]

oh yea sorry didnt see.

[agile patrol]

Should I change anything abt my fleet?

(Agir has Helena in her place. I just have her there for the event mission thingy)

[split gazelle]

probably better to raise pennsylvania instead of soyuz because lack of bulins for her.

though which medal do you have in the shop?

[agile patrol]

Wdym which medal?

[split gazelle]

shop > monthly tab > medal

[worldly pewter]

try to get some ships from the ww then

[agile patrol]

medal of honor?

[split gazelle]

yes

[agile patrol]

i have 72 of it

[wind oxide]

Bro started in soyuz event and slept and just woke up now

[agile patrol]

pretty much

[warped acorn]

ww?

[split gazelle]

check the medal of honor shop for these 2 gold ones (they differ per server)

[wide snow]

did they remove ship drops from the event maps...i checked wiki and apparently only glorious meta is in the ship drop pool

[worldly pewter]

can u speedrun 4 bulins ?
1 from pass 1 from event 2 from the spec cores

[viscid swift]

you know can get points to get little agir without using her right?

[agile patrol]

For SR-SS I have U-96
For SR-CL I have San Diego, Belfast, Sirius, Dido and Dido uhh.. Meow. That weird symbol.

Dido.. Micro???

[split gazelle]

oh well get san diego

[agile patrol]

oh its just that one of her missions is "sortie with Little Agir X times" or smth

[split gazelle]

shop changes at the end of the month which is very close

[pseudo hearth]

So, a slight conundrum. I have to grab the UR Bulin from the cruise pass before it goes away, as well as the one from the event point thing, but I want to wait until this event is over before I spend more on Lion, since I’m fairly certain I’ll hit pity before the event is gone. So that being said, I have like 3 bulins to spend, so which of my URs should I spend it on?

[vale spindle]

Finish lion definitely

[viscid swift]

it is but you don't need to do any of them, the missions in total give you way more than you actually need

[agile patrol]

which bulins

[agile patrol]

ohhh i see

[pseudo hearth]

Again, I already have some set side for her. I’m talking about other than. It’s why I mentioned that in the post.

[boreal merlin]

What main gun did u guys use for Trafalgar?

[forest palm]

single 76 is fine

[undone plover]

I think lars looked into it cheeky and u need to level smol agir a bit at least
But yeah no need to sortie w her afaik

[agile patrol]

oh this thing
errr.. i dont know. i dont have a single one of these

[worldly pewter]

113 or 76 for poverty

[primal silo]

I'm thinking save the extra UR bulins
Cause they're best when you can just MLB one instead of spreading

[viscid swift]

I'd go Z52 next

[boreal merlin]

Ight

[worldly pewter]

i just told u how to get them
1 from pass 1 from this current event and 2 from the shop

[glass quest]

What exactly is this skin projection for? I don‘t understand it even after reading the notes

[pseudo hearth]

I have some I need to grab right now or else they’ll go away in a day or two.

[pseudo hearth]

Alright, I may as well ask though, once I get 52 and Lion done, who should I aim for next?

[viscid swift]

I'd go Trafalgar

[vale spindle]

You can duplicate research ships in the secretary menu so if you like monarch for example you can display her 3 times once per skin or whatever that number is

[agile patrol]

I'm so sorry. which event?
im slightly slow

and i dont see them in shop 😭

[worldly pewter]

it is in the milestones of the event

[agile patrol]

IOH prototype

[glass quest]

kinda expensive for just that but alright thanks

[agile patrol]

okayokay ill do events and get the prototype thingies

[pseudo hearth]

Alright. How does she do in endgame btw?

[split gazelle]

@worldly pewter probably better idea to get sandy from medal shop before reset instead of UR bullins no?

[boreal merlin]

What was the stuf used to do this research fast? The xp

[sterile jolt]

Farming higher worlds

[pseudo hearth]

By the way, is the projection thing bugged or something? Because my Haku keeps using her skin voice lines for her base skin when I have the base skin set as one of the projection things.

[worldly pewter]

yeah most likely no one will know when the next cl rotation will be

[viscid swift]

really good AA, not made of paper, damage isn't that impressive but she has a really handy EVA rate debuff so leans more into the debuffer role

[primal silo]

don't use the item
just farm

[boreal merlin]

Ight

[pseudo hearth]

She’s more useful than Laffey altogether than in that regard?

Considering similar strengths

[viscid swift]

yes

[stuck lark]

Who would be better for a mob fleet for W13 with Perseus/Uni + some other carrier, Lion or Musashi?

[worldly pewter]

laffey might be stronger in w15 right ?

[sterile jolt]

Uni+independence+ someone like lion maybe

[white agate]

was the way to remove 3d dorm space usage to uninstall and reinstall with minimum asset?

[viscid swift]

I mean yeah but with how many good AA ships we have these days she's more, replacable

[forest palm]

triple Carrier is the simplest mob fleet for 13

[balmy wharf]

When will PR/DR 8 release? Probably around June right?

[stuck lark]

these are the good carriers I have, they aren't as high level as my BBs

[sterile jolt]

July

[balmy wharf]

Ah ok thanks

[pseudo hearth]

I feel that’s what most people don’t realize, it’s really difficult to corner the market of super AA focus, when you have plenty of ships that already do everything you need for it (like Sandy).

[wind hazel]

musashi mob is fine, you want to level up your indep until at least ~115+ before attempting w13 though

[worldly pewter]

he also wants to put her in the dorm and onsen

[wind hazel]

yes, she's very red face sad

[tacit star]

Where the new illustrious skin ;-; I dont see it in the shop

[wind hazel]

-# maybe constipation

[split gazelle]

@agile patrol I would suggest using Pennsylvania for now, and get San Diego from the medal shop you saw earlier.

[worldly pewter]

and speedrun the ur bulins

[wind hazel]

the future is not the present

[stuck lark]

so musashi is better for mob than Lion?

[wind hazel]

i would say so yes

[split gazelle]

always

[pseudo hearth]

Does anyone know about this?

[tacit star]

It said uhhh need 100 affinity ;-;

[wind hazel]

wha

the new skin is not the oath skin sir

[tacit star]

You tell me

[wind hazel]

o shit you're right my bad

[tacit star]

Wait so it free rightttt

[pseudo hearth]

Ah you meant to use it on Illustrious Muse

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 i'll check it for you

[boreal wagon]

it says that because you are on illustrious muse and skin sharing requires 100 affinity

[tacit star]

Ohhhhh nvm

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 o shit you're wrong not my bad

[boreal wagon]

the skin itself is for illustrious and wont be free

[pseudo hearth]

No. As far as I’m aware, you get it for getting that new merch that came out, the ring.

[tacit star]

[boreal wagon]

itll also enter the in game shop for a week see #game-news

[wind hazel]

yes sir, relax. the future is not the present

[pseudo hearth]

Oh shoot, really?

[tacit star]

In my defense uhhh i just still new

[boreal wagon]

otherwise i dont see why they announce it like any other skin

and JP patch notes did say its coming for a week

[steady mantle]

Hi, i think i have 78 medals for the shop for building ships. Are any of them recommended to get for new players? (BEcause i saw its going to rotate in 3 days)

[agile patrol]

pennsylvania instead of who?

[split gazelle]

Sovetsky

[agile patrol]

okay!!

[worldly pewter]

if u mean the 80 medal ships then first tell us which hull types do u have or which server are u playing on

[steady mantle]

oops. ok hang on. brb

[pseudo hearth]

What do you have available? Because each shop rotation differs between servers.

[split gazelle]

also make sure Pennsylvania is in the flagship position (middle)

[heavy zealot]

I need one more bulin for lion.... Where could i possibly?

[agile patrol]

so like.
put penny in the golden square, and put Unicorn next to her?

[worldly pewter]

pass milestones
spec core shop

[split gazelle]

correct

[agile patrol]

done

i transferred the same gear soyuz has to penny

[split gazelle]

looks good

[heavy zealot]

Prolly going core shop, i got the milestone , i need 1.1k cores.... Where 😭

[split gazelle]

did you get san diego from the shop too?

[agile patrol]

i have 72 medals
how do i get 8 more for her?

[worldly pewter]

medal shop

[split gazelle]

Retire some blue ships

[agile patrol]

any blue ships yes? are there blue ships that im supposed to keep
i dont wanna accidentally retire a good one or smth

[heavy zealot]

Ran out ... Sad, boss fleets ?

[split gazelle]

give me one sec

[worldly pewter]

did u buy all of the 3k from there ?

[heavy zealot]

Ye....

[steady mantle]

Little Enterprise server
Requisition costs 6 medals
Belfast, Enterprise, Illustrious

Medal shop has SR SS and SR CL
SRSS: U-96
SRCL: San Diego, Belfast, Sirius, Dido, Dido u

For my fleet
Backline: Richelieu, Taihou, Lion
Vanguard: Prinz adalb, Prinz Eugen, Cleopatra
Standing around as lvl 1: Cleopatra, Takao, Glorious META, Nevada META (purple)

Also side question, in hard mode is there a restriction to the ship types i can use? I notice I cant select certain ships

[split gazelle]

the ones that are crossed out you keep, the rest is easy to obtain

[heavy zealot]

Kinda wanna rush it, im only need 1 mor bulin for lion 😭

[agile patrol]

alright. thanks!!

[atomic abyss]

ignore requisition
yes, hard mode has restrictions

[viscid swift]

you know you physically can't retire meta ships right?

[worldly pewter]

5k monthly and 3k from medal is 2 bulins
1 from pass 1 from milestones is enough for 1 ship
if u did a smol oupsie somewhere u can wait for the next reset

[steady mantle]

ah okok. means the goal is to save medals and redeem from teh shop when needed. But are any of them good? From my list

[heavy zealot]

I was late to re download, only got to 76 pass

[atomic abyss]

any of what?
your ships?
or the medal shop ones

[worldly pewter]

the pass still has 2 days

[steady mantle]

the medal shops ones. Based on what I have now, idk if i should get those from the shops

[heavy zealot]

I can still go for the 5k monthly thing, how much oil would you think itd cost tho... And do i at the event stage? Or somewhere else

[atomic abyss]

san diego

[wind hazel]

grab sandiego

[heavy zealot]

76 to 100 seems far, but ill try

[steady mantle]

yea so aside from collection purposes, thats what im checking :3 Ok San diego it is

[worldly pewter]

i was able to max it with just 3 full tabs 2nd 6th and SP it should be simple just follow the missions
as for the farming do the usual farming while not ignoring opsi

[agile patrol]

@split gazelle got the thing
what do now?

[paper pine]

how do i unlock the sp difficutly? i cleared the story and part 1 and 2 entirely

[viscid swift]

clear D3

[undone plover]

Switch b3 to d3 and clear it

[viscid swift]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[split gazelle]

for now it's storage but it's important to get as the shop resets each month and we don't know when it will appear next

[agile patrol]

ahh i see

[pseudo hearth]

He's not talking about requisition. He's talking about the ships in the medal shop.

[worldly pewter]

they already answered him

[fallen jay]

Ok so I’m just starting out what do I do?

[timid wasp]

Hello, umm... I just started this game, And I can't read... How do I do this event?

[worldly pewter]

u start from this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[sweet delta]

Why are you playing the game in a language you can't read?

[timid wasp]

Taihou skin... :3

[atomic abyss]

the taihou skin that EN has?

[worldly pewter]

no u start with the main campaign until u unlock the main event on the top

[viscid swift]

you know that EN, JP, and CN are all synced right?

[timid wasp]

Yeah no... I'm quite new to Azur lane... :[

[hollow gust]

we all get the same shit

[atomic abyss]

just play EN

[viscid swift]

well they are, so I reccomend just playing on EN

[timid wasp]

Well, I'm quite fine playing on JP, I already saved the gems, and I can get by using translate 🙂

[elfin nimbus]

why EN already using JP VA

[hollow gust]

[worldly pewter]

read the beginner guide and advance the main stages

[viscid swift]

suit yourself, just note this is the Official EN Server and most of us don't speak a lick of Japanese

[viscid swift]

because most gacha games use JP Voice Actors

[worldly pewter]

yeah basically only 2 play on jp me and nntkt

[timid wasp]

Alright then :3

[elfin nimbus]

i know. i asking him why jp when you can play en that has jp va

[viscid swift]

because in a lot of gacha games JP servers are ahead of EN servers

and not by a small margin either

like for example, Fate/GO, I think the JP servers are content wise 2 years ahead of EN or something like that

[elfin nimbus]

i know AK ahead on the EN ver

it make sense what you are saying

[fallen jay]

So what should be my top priority as a new player? I downloaded the game last night and did I think the first mission? Or gameplay learning mechanic

[worldly pewter]

did u read the guide i linked earlier ? mainly the newbie tips

[pseudo hearth]

So, based on what we know, how good does Little Agir seem?

[viscid swift]

start by giving that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[worldly pewter]

a smol agir

[sweet delta]

Do we know anything? No datamine

[timid wasp]

Btw, how do you get gems as an F2p in AL?

[pseudo hearth]

Anything for what?

[worldly pewter]

3 main sources
perfect the normal stages in campaign
anniversary
commissions

[viscid swift]

3 starring main campaign maps and momentos rewards are the main methods

[timid wasp]

Momentos?

[pseudo hearth]

She’s in game right now, it’s just you have to earn her over the next week for her to be there permanently

[worldly pewter]

yeah for got about the collection

[worldly pewter]

tap on the smol square here

[pseudo hearth]

But, does little Agir seem like she’ll be good, or is she about as mediocre as most Child ships?

[worldly pewter]

they are called moments in jp

[kind slate]

モーメントProbs

[worldly pewter]

very smol writing though

[stark quiver]

we will see

[kind slate]

oop nvm

[worldly pewter]

yeah they write all the menues in english

[sweet delta]

What does mebot say

[viscid swift]

I think 110% of Portland

[worldly pewter]

105% tankiness i think

[atomic abyss]

105

[kind slate]

lmao that says encyclopaedia

[kind slate]

yea that

wait is that what an encyplopedia is?

im more confused as to the english than the japanese lmao

[worldly pewter]

i too too noob for english to understand

[kind slate]

thank god im literate in english

[worldly pewter]

does it mean that they made it as a mini guidance tool ?

[kind slate]

i think its more intended as a colelction of stories maybe.

図鑑i feel has a nuance of a display/collection

[boreal wagon]

why is this a convo for gph

[kind slate]

we learning japanese

[worldly pewter]

because i might be missing a guidance tool in game

[grand solar]

Okay sooo do I need to download something from google first as the same bloody screen greeted me just now when I woke up.

[worldly pewter]

are u running into technical issues ?

[grand solar]

Yes. At first the screen was like this four hours ago.

And just now it became stuck like this.

[worldly pewter]

is this after the 1GB update ?

[grand solar]

That is after I clicked to update yes.

[sweet delta]

It should go in #tech-support

[grand solar]

As you can see here.

[pliant rain]

How do I unlock the sp and ex levels?

[boreal wagon]

you have to clear D3 which is the hard mode of B3

[pliant rain]

Thank you!

[boreal wagon]

(if you have already cleared all normal stages u can just go to D3 directly by toggling B3, no need to do all hard modes)

[dawn hamlet]

just double checking before I invest all my UR bullins, Lion is good right?

[agile furnace]

what is skin projection in research?

[dawn hamlet]

Thanks

[naive burrow]

same question

[boreal wagon]

check the pinned message

tl:dr: it lets u have multiple copies of the same PR ship for secretary duties

[elfin nimbus]

@timid wasp
What you do with your gems is up to you.
Each Stage Maps Give You 250 Gems.
(Normal Map Only. Hard Map Don't Count)
Map: 15 Atm
Stage 1 = 50 Gem
Stage 2 = 50 Gem
Stage 3 = 50 Gem
Stage 4 = 100 Gem
: 250 x 15 = 3750 Gems

Extra Gems
EN/CN/JP Anniversary : Depends on the Anniversary# ( X gems)
Anniversary Wish And Highlight Reward : 200
New Luna Year Reward: 240
Memento > Collection: 800
Random Maintenance Apology Gems : 100-200
Random Twitter : 100-200
Commissions : X (random)
Stage 2-1 : X (random)

[bleak dock]

Not worth it that cube right?

[naive burrow]

yes

[bleak dock]

ah big bait

[kind slate]

how do i go abt making a w15 fleet.
can i make a thread and get advice

[atomic abyss]

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[fallen jay]

So wouod a good rule of thumb be to just push as far in the main campaign without spending any resources?

[worldly pewter]

what you do with the f2p gems is pretty much set into a stone now
i don't remember getting apologems in jp
might have been once in 15 months not sure maybe 0

[elfin nimbus]

nah

[atomic abyss]

well yes
but in this case, push till you can farm the event

[fallen jay]

I want to understand the story will it leave me confused? Cause I currently am in the main story at uh 1-3?

[atomic abyss]

there's no story after chapter 3...
all of it is spread throughout like, 7 years of events

[ornate narwhal]

When should I make a new fleet? I am at chapter 5 and they are lvl ~70

[elfin nimbus]

even if 15+ months and something happen jp like bug/whatever going go. you still some apologems

[barren barn]

What's this

[elfin nimbus]

you can use coins to help you progress her

[worldly pewter]

yeah i just checked there was 2 apologems
1 in the jp anni because of mamagi's skill text
2 after raff event there was a maint extension sry for misinfo

[elfin nimbus]

nah you're good 👍

[boreal wagon]

i think they were asking what fate simulation is,
which basically is another 5 dev levels that give the ship a bit of luck and upgrade 1 skill (for PRs) and 2 skills (for DRs)
not every ship has a fate sim yet

[wheat ore]

is this a good loadout for lion? apart from the anti air, i don't have anything better :(

[hollow gust]

secondary gun is not good

[worldly pewter]

when u have enough good ships to level them in capped stages which is at least in w9

[wheat ore]

ah okay, i was trying to follow the gear guide on github but it never shows what secondary gun to use

[ivory pawn]

If you mean Sam’s, the secondary gun has it’s own image another ~2 images down from main gun.

[bold surge]

What gun for Trafalgar, the 113mm DP Mk. IV?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[wheat ore]

you mean this? but let's say for DD, it dones' thave it's own one

[atomic abyss]

1. yes
2. because DDs dont have secondary guns

[wheat ore]

oh i see okay that makes sense

[bold surge]

Not even a hidden secondary gun?

[wheat ore]

it has torpedoes right? does it show the best option for that as well?

[atomic abyss]

nope, that's for cruisers

and even for CA/CLs

[boreal wagon]

* torpedo cruisers

[atomic abyss]

that have secondaries
you can refer to DD guns

[wheat ore]

ah okay ty

[hushed sorrel]

there is no chance to redo a guild bossfight right? atleast i dont know it.

[wheat ore]

is it important to join a "Good" guild?

[atomic abyss]

no to both

[soft raft]

as long as the guild does the compiler boss fight, it's a good one

[hushed sorrel]

it would be good if you can atleast buy the good upgrades like the dock space. most upgrades like bigger storage is optional

[wheat ore]

i don't think my guild does the boss fights often, I have a couple of the dock upgrades but if i change guilds do i lose the spaces?

[hushed sorrel]

you lose nothing if you change

[boreal wagon]

(to clarify u can only do the guild boss twice a month)

[wheat ore]

ah okay, I haven't really kept track on if they do 2 a month

[hushed sorrel]

thats easy. you would have gained a notice if you would try to join a 3rd one

[wheat ore]

also another question, is D3 in the event worth it to farm for exp and stuff

[boreal wagon]

they meant they havent kept track of whether or not the guild started more than 1

[wheat ore]

ahh okay, i see

[hushed sorrel]

atleast for the event gun, maybe meta ship if you like. it has a oil cap that can be nice

[boreal wagon]

if you are "done" with the event (usual recommendation is 55k for the gold plates) regular campaign is better

[hushed sorrel]

okay thank you. eng can be sometimes a bit difficult.

[wheat ore]

I have bought the event gun, but basically i'm unable to complete the SP level so i was thinking if i farm enough of the event coins then i can use it to buy the currency for the UR

[boreal wagon]

if you have kept up with the free currency you can gain every day you need to buy a very minimal amount only

the reason veterans recommend farming 55.000 event currency is because thats the last milestone that gives you gold plates

[worldly pewter]

i think if someone can't do SP the amount will be kinda massive for the second copy

[boreal wagon]

and gold plates are very sought after
but everyone can define their own stopping point

[boreal wagon]

very true i forgot that part

[wheat ore]

this is what i have so far, i have bought the gun

[boreal wagon]

yeah id keep farming

[wheat ore]

just wondering if it's worth for me to complete this

[hushed sorrel]

the mini-game, 50 from the mission .... i mean even daily quests. you would need a very small amount. done everything already?

[boreal wagon]

usually not worth going >55k as i mentioned

[wheat ore]

oh these?

well i can't do the first 2 cuz i'm just not strong enough yet. The daily missions i'm pretty sure requires me to use certian ships or something which i can't do either

[boreal wagon]

thats challenge missions

[hollow gust]

it doesnt

[boreal wagon]

daily is just a random mission every day

[wary timber]

So which is the better shell for FDG who's eventually gonna use a Mk7 or the new rainbow BB gun

[hushed sorrel]

the ship can die in d3 for the "challenge mission" just put them into your fleet

[boreal wagon]

that assumes they have them

[wheat ore]

ohh that would make it a lot easier actually

[boreal wagon]

yeah the missions in game claim they have to live but they dont

[worldly pewter]

classic wrong mission description

[wheat ore]

ah okay, D3 is actually eating up a lot more oil than my campaign which i'm at W10 atm

[soft raft]

are you using the 2x plans
Cuz the oil cap costs for W10 and D3 are roughly the same

[worldly pewter]

well TBH u should still keep doing the event since the campaign won't give u any thing towards the event goals

[hushed sorrel]

by the way i cannot answer justbotan. if one of you can?

[soft raft]

new gun is a direct upgrade over 406 Mk7

[wheat ore]

oh i think so, i didn't realise that adds oil costs and i also thought that increases my medal gains or something

[boreal wagon]

the question was what shell she should use (white or black) im guessing

[soft raft]

yeah that would be why
think of those plans as doing 2 runs at once

which means it doubles everything including the negatives

[wary timber]

So which shell? Superheavy or type 1

[tame jungle]

white

[soft raft]

White shell

[wheat ore]

is it just better to use them then so it saves me time?

[fickle parcel]

I reread the patch notes for the maint several times and I still don't understand what 'skin projection' is. I have several unlocked for my Research ships, but they just seem to be the base skin on repeat?

[soft raft]

if you dont have much time to grind yee

[worldly pewter]

the x2 plan which we call help in short doesn't cost anything
the major drawback to it is that it drains the moral really fast that even the dormed ships won't keep the 20% bonus exp from 120+ moral

[soft raft]

basically you can create duplicate cosmetic only copies of PR ships to display their skins if you wanted to display more than 1

[boreal wagon]

the tl;dr is basically it lets you create a copy of all research ships so that they can wear different skins as secretaries

[wheat ore]

oh yeah i have noticed my moral going down really quickly

[hushed sorrel]

you got multiple skins for your ships and you want multiple secretaries with them? skin protection is your thing

[fickle parcel]

Ooooh, tyty!

This only works with PR ships though?

[tame jungle]

for now yes

[boreal wagon]

yeah because other ships could already do this with regular dupes (and metas dont have skins)

[fickle parcel]

Hopefully they expand it in the future. Don't want to have a dupe just to display more than 1 skin. tyty again everyone!

[tender girder]

so.. i already got lion & cleo
on wishing well, i got aquila, but missing perseus...

should i do my daily 3 pulls on event or wishing well?

[soft raft]

how many cubes do you have left?

[tender girder]

1040

[craggy sorrel]

will they rerun voltage rising event?

[soft raft]

Then WW if you want
but Perseus is honestly not that high of a priority with Unicorn Retro being a thing

[wheat ore]

wait if i have already got all the event characters on the banner and i'm doing my light pulls. I should still do 3 a day?

[hushed sorrel]

the usual recommendation is 1 light and not 3. i dont know how urgent your event points are

[soft raft]

most likely later in August
It ran on EN Anniv last year and retrofit items take 1 year to rerun compared to the usual 2 years

[craggy sorrel]

aight ty

[eternal basalt]

It's a minor event, and those reruns do NOT follow a fixed standard

[kind slate]

what can i use instead of this for support fleet w15?

[wheat ore]

i only have 16660 rn

but 300 points isn't really that much anyway right?

[boreal wagon]

300 points isnt that much

[soft raft]

Either the Flapjack or FW-190 A-5

[tender girder]

each D3 run is 180 points... so it's a bit less than 2 runs

[hushed sorrel]

if you have 1k cubes ok but if you have below 400 do not

[boreal wagon]

just keep grinding d3 for now

[wheat ore]

i have 433

[wheat ore]

okay

[kind slate]

whats the 2nd one?

[acoustic quiver]

does this cap at 3 million so i wont be able to use the ship for research exp anymore?

[boreal wagon]

even if it reads 3 million itll still count
(but you should probably use other ships to not waste exp)

[hushed sorrel]

to my knowlegde
nr 2. prototype XF5U
nr 1. prototype Carrier-Based fw-190 g-3/r1

[wheat ore]

like mix in some ships and keep a couple strong ones to carry the team?

[white agate]

i have a little tiny problem

[boreal wagon]

i was answering the other person

[wheat ore]

oh okay nvm lmfao

[soft raft]

I can't get a image rn but it's a purple rarity fighter in gear lab (Iron blood tab)

[ivory pawn]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190_A-5_(Carrier-based_Prototype)

[boreal wagon]

but yes thats usually how people grind, the current event is even possible with (only) pretty bad ships but it always depends on what you have
given that u cant do SP just stick with what u have

[kind slate]

yippee purple and not some hella expensive gold

[ornate narwhal]

Is there a way to increase lil agir’s morale?

[ivory pawn]

The upgraded gold version is actually dirt cheap. Unless you haven’t been grinding opsi much ofc.

[hushed sorrel]

it will regenerate with time. automatic

[soft raft]

Take a break and let it Regen automatically like with all ships

[ornate narwhal]

And I can’t put her in dorm or something?

[hushed sorrel]

no you cannot since she is npc

[timber swift]

Would you guys keep farming the event ? i got the UR Ship from shop, UR weapon + Meta ship, which stage would you farm? else i would go back to farming 12-4

[wind hazel]

farm for 2nd copy, cogs, DR prints

[hushed sorrel]

its already really bad that you needed to buy 100 winged coins ...

[timber swift]

i have enough UR bulins ^^

[wind hazel]

just cogs and dr prints then

[timber swift]

@wind hazel how many cogs would you stack?

[wind hazel]

until i have everyone at 120

[pseudo hearth]

Btw, is the light wishing well only one cube to summon on?

[hushed sorrel]

if you dont use them for research than not. thats a gamestyle not everyone plays

[hushed sorrel]

yes

[pseudo hearth]

So, would it make sense to use that once one finishes grabbing event ships? (I still need Cleo, but I’m curious)

[hushed sorrel]

i cannot answer what you should wish for, but thats certainly better than the normal 1 cube pull

[kind slate]

hows this for 15-1. need a but more time to get illustrius and indomitable to 120 but

[hushed sorrel]

topics like this go usually to 🧵

[wind hazel]

dont use ryusei on shinano lol

and ideally drop the vit2 for breguet wyvern

[kind slate]

mm. im kinda low on cores rn... what do i use for shinano instad of ryusei?

[wind hazel]

can work 15-1 but as you move on you want better AA guns too

flapjacks, non negotiable for fighter for w15

well there's tigercat etc but yeah

[sweet delta]

Non negotiable but negotiating

[wind hazel]

i'll nego you

[ivory pawn]

Iirc Breguet is expected to come to Gear Lab soon, possibly next week even. Can see how expensive they are to craft.

[timber swift]

How do you guys handle he research ships unlocking? i got like PR1 and PR4 done completely and then i have 1 left on PR7 and PR6 and 2 left on PR5, i mostly do it that i just get what looks best at the beginning and then after that i create fraction teams and farm all the fractions, so first iron blood and so on..

[sweet delta]

I just do them all

[hushed sorrel]

a fraction team is not needed. its only vanguard or main thats needed. so half your fleet is still variable. just grind 12-1 or 12-4 (better coins) for the exp

i am already done with all but just do one after another.

[timber swift]

thats why i asked earlier about the event ^^ cause in my opinion i had almost everything there and then i would just have went back to 12-1 or 12-4

[hushed sorrel]

you can use the ships in d3 no problem. it should still count

[timber swift]

but is d3 better than 12-4 to farm

[kind slate]

so apart from the aa and planes, i should be solid?

[timber swift]

[hushed sorrel]

for exp? i doubt that since d3 is easier, but you get event currency. the exp grind for research ships need time either way

choose for yourself. there is no right and wrong. its your game

[wind hazel]

well... i'd drop agir if you have someone else that can fit in. and more torp bulge on cruisers, a better hp aux for z52, eva aux for Guam, amagi gear might need to be changed as well, better fighter on indom, get her aug for even higher avi. a lot of micro adjustments that can be improved

[tender girder]

is traf skill power based on just skill lv, or TRP or FP as well?

[boreal wagon]

if u mean her barrages they also scale with the stats (first barrage is fp, second trp and the other skill is fp again)

[atomic abyss]

all

[steady rain]

Fleetbuilding event help

[little tree]

Amagi not having wyvern/ bregut for passive intercept is questionable at best

[gilded shale]

What is skin projection?

[atomic abyss]

see pins

[wheat ore]

is it worth upgrading her so i can just limit break to free up dock space. or should i just retire?

[atomic abyss]

limit break

[little tree]

Lb

[kind slate]

what would you recommend instead of agir? wait and double eva eux on guam?

[wheat ore]

does that go for most purple ships?

[atomic abyss]

you'll want to get ayanami from collection at some point anyways

[little tree]

Brest if u have her ir use z52 tank also make a thread at this point

[kind slate]

i shall.

[wheat ore]

oh i meant like are you suggesting to lb specifically this ship cuz i have quite different ships in the same situation

[kind slate]

w15 fleetmaking

[wind hazel]

ye CB tend to use doubla eva almost everywhere. got eldridge? or napoli

or Brest

[kind slate]

unfortunately got neither

[kind slate]

have her but low dev

[pseudo hearth]

Can someone remind me what Z52 does again?

[sweet delta]

Everything

Damage, AA, lesser offensive buff, lesser tank, great defensive buff

[steady rain]

#gameplay-help message can someone help me please?

[hushed sorrel]

thats not how you ask for help. just ask your question

[rigid onyx]

For meta fights and cvs do you use scepter or bow for the cv aux again

[kind slate]

what was the general way to clear 15-1 again? Mobing does bosses 1,3?

And boss does 2?

[atomic abyss]

15-1 and 15-2 only have 1 boss
15-3 has 2 boss
15-4 has 3 boss

[atomic abyss]

scepter

[ornate narwhal]

Are any of these worth getting?

[atomic abyss]

san diego

[ornate narwhal]

Should I put her on my team?

[steady rain]

should i start building a 2nd fleet? i cant beat sp event boss with unicorn pennsylvania implacable portland helena laffey due to lack of dps and survivability ~ 12k power on vanguard and main fleet

i was told to bench pennsylvania and implacable for vittorio and franklin prior to lion event

should i pull lion now or do 3 pulls a day mission instead?
who should i pick from special invitation?
should i mlb implacable, lion or trafalgar? i can get 4 UR bulins total
shinano or new jersey from selector?
roster in thread

[atomic abyss]

no, it's a future investment

[ornate narwhal]

So should I just get her later?

Bc I only have a few medals

[craggy zenith]

can someone explain to me what the projections are? i don't really get what the point of it is

is it so you can have more than 1 skin of the same ship as secretary or something?

[boreal wagon]

the tl;dr is you can create duplicates of any given PR ship to have them use different skins as secretaries

[craggy zenith]

ahh, ok, thanks

[glad light]

So do I pick Shinano or New Jersey? I already got Kron and Lion though

[little tree]

Nano

[dry tree]

what does Skin projection provide other than being able to use them on the random secretary function?

[atomic abyss]

how few is few

cos the shop resets every month

[ornate narwhal]

100

[atomic abyss]

get

[boreal wagon]

read about 3 messages above urs

[ornate narwhal]

Also do we know how the event shop URs will be implemented when they come back?

[worldly pewter]

most likely just more copies take it or leave it

[ornate narwhal]

I mean when they come back permanently

[worldly pewter]

we don't know what they will do during their reruns let alone when they get archived

[sweet delta]

We don't know

[agile patrol]

what does this mean?

what is SP, D3 D1 D2 C2 and B3?

[worldly pewter]

priority

[ornate narwhal]

When do the reruns happen?

[agile patrol]

... yeah.
but what are they..

[eternal basalt]

Stages

[eternal basalt]

2+ years down the line

[worldly pewter]

for the first shop ur if they keep the same pattern it will be in the second week of january

[agile patrol]

oh like, the way it says A2 A3 etc?
ohhhh i seee, why are these stages special specifically?

[ornate narwhal]

Wait so next UR is in like 6 months…

[atomic abyss]

next new UR is prolly september

next rerun UR... likely between that

[ornate narwhal]

Oh ok

Who’s next in terms of being on standard?

[atomic abyss]

musashi is due to enter perm next

next due to rerun is bis 2

[ornate narwhal]

When is musashi being added?

[atomic abyss]

whenever they want to

[dry tree]

just that? Why do I need to give 200 gems on the last two requirements?

for extra slots perhaps?

[boreal wagon]

each of those missions is 1 projection copy

[eternal basalt]

No, BisII should come shortly

[dry tree]

ohhhh

[boreal wagon]

so the 200 gem ones are just 2 extra copies

that you realistically dont even need atm because none of the PR/DRs have that many skins yet

[sweet delta]

So if I add a bunch of projections with the same skin then they'll be more likely to appear in the random rotation ?

[eternal basalt]

IF you add them to that

[dry tree]

definitely unnecessary but a welcomed one for people who likes DR/PR ships with skins. Thank you for the answer

[sterile jolt]

the moment where even suchi is asking wtf is this mechanic

[boreal wagon]

most certainly id guess

[eternal basalt]

It's good, but they shouldn't keep it only to PRs

[sweet delta]

Can I get the same pr ship with different skins as non-random secretaries?

[ornate narwhal]

So I read the pin for the invite and out of all the non medal ones idk who’s the best bc I don’t have shinano or amagi for taihou and im not to the point that I can benefit from graf bc I can’t unlock any tech point PR ship, also I have like no submarines so idk what to do

[boreal wagon]

yes

there is a projection button on the left side when u click a slot and you can just select them like normal ships

[worldly pewter]

you basically do nothing and play with what u have now + what is in the medal shop

[sweet delta]

You are correct

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[white agate]

there is also a bug i activated apparently, closing and reopening the game works, but hey halford fate sim

[eternal basalt]

At dev 29 even

[forest palm]

Halford is the most useless PR in the game, no loss honestly

[sweet delta]

She does need it

[pseudo hearth]

Why must the unique ships be bad?

[eternal basalt]

Not UR/DR/USSR

[forest palm]

even then by SSR standards Halford is just shit

[white agate]

avi padder is her only use

[forest palm]

crap tech, bugged, poor kit

[atomic abyss]

unironically

shirakami fubuki is a better aviation DD than her

[chrome fiber]

Wait im farming with little agir what will happen if i continue farm while the affinity is falling

[atomic abyss]

thats the thing
you dont use her

[pseudo hearth]

She could've used a +1 for her plane slot tbh, don't know why they didn't.

[atomic abyss]

thats not why she's bad

[pseudo hearth]

True, but it's sort of insult to injury

[atomic abyss]

she's bad because her planes come out from her position on the map
no matter how many planes she has it aint fixing anything

[forest palm]

she uses Sea Planes...Sea Planes are junk...

[atomic abyss]

to be fair, halford plane is... actually good lol

[pseudo hearth]

The newest one supposed to be good though IIRC

[boreal wagon]

especially on a dd like her if it actually worked

[rigid onyx]

she wasnt that bad before she got bugged

[forest palm]

she always was though...lol

[white agate]

she was not bugged?

[hard mesa]

plane came out of her is bad?

[forest palm]

she has such an meddling kit

[atomic abyss]

she wasnt bad to begin with

[worldly pewter]

if the moral goes below 120 she will lose the 20% exp buff
then there is another threshold that when it goes below it something bad happens and at 0 moral the game will stop autoing and if u force the fight the 0 moral ships will start losing affinity

[atomic abyss]

by the time the plane gets up to "drop bombs height"
she's passed everything

[eternal basalt]

#bug-reports

Or write a report (and write my reports, thanks)

[chrome fiber]

And what will happen if i go beyond 0?

[atomic abyss]

she will hate you and lose all stat bonuses

[worldly pewter]

read until the end

[atomic abyss]

also 50% exp penalty

[chrome fiber]

What will happen if I lose all affinity? The ship destroys?

[atomic abyss]

you can dont use her and still get her lol

[pseudo hearth]

Like I mentioned before though, she could use slightly stronger planes while they're at it.

[chrome fiber]

Ah alraighttt

[eternal basalt]

You can even get a married ship to 0

[ornate narwhal]

How many materials does it take to fully retrofit an elite?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the elite

[eternal basalt]

Depends on the ship

[atomic abyss]

check the wiki

[worldly pewter]

check wiki

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[chrome fiber]

How long is the penality? Permanent?

[hard mesa]

i thought by plane came out of her make it easier to sync with 457

[stark quiver]

u gotta farm the affinity back

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#List_of_Ships_for_Retrofit

[chrome fiber]

Alright that's seem pretty reasonable. Il abuse little agir then

[atomic abyss]

doesnt matter if it doesnt hit shit
also, she's no longer even good for that anymore

[stark quiver]

yea thats all fine

[atomic abyss]

there's so many better options now

back then her competition as a buffer was ply

now? z52 and trafalgar

[eternal basalt]

Laffey II?

[atomic abyss]

doesnt fill the same role

[hard mesa]

she doesnt do anything here then?

[atomic abyss]

a ply would have done more yes
halford doesnt do anything there

[eternal basalt]

66 vs 166

[atomic abyss]

also the fact that bis2 did that more than lion is... kinda sus

[ornate narwhal]

What’s the chance to drop a gold retrofit mat? Do we know?

[pseudo hearth]

Lion DoT doesn't count for the damage calculations.

The PvP peeps have noted that. Her fire isn't counted on the damage calculations screen.

Which of imagine would push her well past Bisk

[atomic abyss]

she shd outperform bis even without the dot

[hushed sorrel]

i cannot help with ship building. thats not where i am good

[hard mesa]

and bis manage to get 1 more shell hit

[pseudo hearth]

It could just be he doesn't have her skills fully leveled.

[atomic abyss]

very low
hence better to get them from 3*-ing hard maps

[ornate narwhal]

But they each need like 10+ so that’s 5 chapters… and aren’t there only like 15

[atomic abyss]

yes, but you're early on
why is that an issue?

we do know drop rate is worse on earlier maps

[eternal basalt]

They also drop from SR and UR secretary stories

[ornate narwhal]

What are those?

[pseudo hearth]

Is it worth getting Azuma's gun just so my CBs can do well against light Metas and EXs?

[ivory pawn]

Gold retrofits can also be found in the Guild shop, and technically the Medal shop though imo at a scam price.

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories#Characters

[soft raft]

maybe like 1 copy
anything further feels like a waste considering how light armor bosses are pretty rare in endgame content

[atomic abyss]

sth sth you probably wont use CBs for light armour bossing anyways

[pseudo hearth]

I get it.

[hollow gust]

That Lion damage is pretty bad for a traf buffed one

[atomic abyss]

i did the maff

that dps screen adds up to 1.348 mil

it's been well inflated by AA probably

so we cant even tell lion's impact

[pseudo hearth]

I will say, that does seem like a fun comp though

[hollow gust]

That's just a BB comp

[pseudo hearth]

I meant Frontline

[hollow gust]

[soft raft]

Halford thinks she's on the team lol

[sweet delta]

It is fun to see halford do worse than a starter DD

[hard mesa]

this is few result. lion only dont have blue skill maxed since it doesnt do anything with dmg, traf has skill 2 maxed and skill 3rd at lv. 6. lion with sap gun, bis flan gun alsus champagne gun

[soft raft]

what fght is this even

[atomic abyss]

shd be hornet no?

[hollow gust]

Lion should be taking the sap gun , she had the strongest gun damage of the fleet. The extra burn damage is 50k at best if you consider the duration of the fight

[pseudo hearth]

I believe he said Lion has SAP gun, no ?

[hollow gust]

If lion has the sap she shouldn't be hitting sub 330k even without ply buff

[pseudo hearth]

Maybe the other guns are +13 and that isn’t?

[pseudo hearth]

If you haven’t, can you share each ships’ gear?

[hollow gust]

she doesnt get fucked by the darkness debuff like bismarck

[ionic kraken]

Is there a way to currently get Fredrich Carl?

[atomic abyss]

no

[pseudo hearth]

No, but she’ll rerun eventually. It’ll be a while though.

[ionic kraken]

Darn thanks 😦 I was thinking of getting her skin but if there’s no way to get her I think it would be a waste

[hollow gust]

Just get the skin in November

[wheat ore]

should i buy glorious meta if i already have a copy?

[hollow gust]

buy the fragments that cost 2k...

[wheat ore]

oh okay, idk how meta works. also what else should i buy from the event shop is it the cognitive chips?

[hollow gust]

should wait until end of event just incase you get more copies, as for shop there should be priority list in event faq

[pseudo hearth]

I’m specifically asking to see gear because it could just be that there’s some choices of gear between the ships that could cause her to have lower damage.

[wheat ore]

ah okay ty

[hard mesa]

bis did managed to fire 3rd shots just before blackout, max rld, bis alscase oath

[waxen valley]

What is a skin projection

[noble tulip]

if this is hornet meta, why are we running mogador ?

[wheat ore]

do i continue trying to lb lion when i have more bulins or do i just also lb trafalgar at the same time?

[honest stirrup]

Lion then traf

[pseudo hearth]

It allows you so have your Research ships take up multiple Secretary slots.

[turbid marsh]

lion

[atomic abyss]

focus on 1
so lion

[wheat ore]

👍

[waxen valley]

Thank you !

[honest stirrup]

Just go with the idea that a non-mlb ship is close to useless, so would you rather have two unusable ships or one

[wheat ore]

is it useless cuz you can't have the ship high level?

[pseudo hearth]

Tbh, I’m not sure why Lion would have lower damage here. Though, It could be the gun? But idk.

I doubt that’s it though.

Though, like veera asked, why did you choose Mogador?

[honest stirrup]

UR don't have the limitations, but a mlb has every stat buffed and usually better weapon efficiencies, as well as sometimes improving skills

[viscid swift]

no

[honest stirrup]

Useless wasn't the correct term, but let's just say why would you ever pick a non-mlb ship over a fully limit broken SR

[wheat ore]

okay so i guess it's just generally a lot better when you mlb

[hard mesa]

mogador for alscase buff without worrying gun timing

[pseudo hearth]

Tbh, I’m not the best person to help with this. I don’t have Alsace so I don’t have any experience with her.

[wheat ore]

I've never used gear lab before, how do you get these things?

[honest stirrup]

nvm

[atomic abyss]

operation siren

[wheat ore]

oh bruh, okay i haven't touched that mode yet

[honest stirrup]

You're missing on a lot and it's not that difficult, just time consuming

[wheat ore]

can you not auto sortie, is that why it's time consuming?

[honest stirrup]

you "can"

But there's I think around 30 nodes

Each node is the size of a campaign level up to 3x the size

And finally, that's just the start. There's also the hidden nodes, strongholds, harbiter...

[wheat ore]

okay so it's just a whole lot of clicking around, i'm guessing this is the end game?

[honest stirrup]

Yesn't. You start to enter the endgame with Opsi, but it is not endgame by itself since again it is really not that difficult

[wheat ore]

ah okay fair enough

[atomic abyss]

beginning of opsi is just mid game tbh

[wheat ore]

what's considered end game then?

[atomic abyss]

n.arbiters, abyssals and strongholds would be late game

[slate remnant]

Hello, today I got update from Azur Lane, after update my phone unable to load game, seems after downloading the update, I get screen with infinity loading, any help?

[atomic abyss]

ask in #tech-support

[wheat ore]

okay lmfao i haven't even heard of those so i'm no where near then

[atomic abyss]

of course

[honest stirrup]

They're all in opsi so if you haven't started it there wasn't much chances you would ever know about them

[slate remnant]

Uh, oke thanks

[ornate narwhal]

What does doing the TB story thing do?

[hollow gust]

It's just another game mode, doesn't give much rewards

[forest palm]

safe to ignore

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[strange path]

can we still get the wattage amplifier for eldridge retrofit?

[atomic abyss]

no

[pseudo hearth]

Unfortunately, you probably will have to wait a year and a half before you can get it again.

[strange path]

alrighty thank you guys

[white agate]

any idea on the best bb gun for w12-1 mobbing?

[viscid swift]

+0 Blue Quad 356

best gun to ensure a BB doesn't take MvP

[white agate]

and if i want mvp fdg gun?

[atomic abyss]

or 457
or 410

[weary void]

How to join guild

[forest palm]

#1246721562741178410

[weary gate]

Can I reduce the mob fleet by anything to reduce oil? Running HMS for Plymouth shipyard xp

[forest palm]

you can't reduce oil further...

[weary gate]

So oil cap makes that a non issue?

[crimson glacier]

you will always have these oil costs unless your fleet costs less than it

and if your fleet costs less oil then it sucks as exp farming fleet

[weary gate]

Fair fair, thank you ❤️

[viscid swift]

you might also wanna consider using non maxed ships to grind

[kind slate]

Are subs essential for w15?

[viscid swift]

wasting a lot of XP there

[stark quiver]

no but they do help

[weary gate]

fine enough I suppose, requirements still fulfilled

[viscid swift]

I should clarify, non 120 ships

in the main fleet and vanguard as well

don't over estimate how difficult D3 is, worst case scenario you'll need Unicorn but if your ships are proerly geared and such you won't need them at all

[weary gate]

okay the reqs are just eva now, with mob fully emptied

I should be able to figure something out

[thorn tartan]

Do I actually need to sortie little agir or just do all the other missions with her to keep her

[vale spindle]

you can get her just from all the other missions

[thorn tartan]

I've never used one of the little ships.

[vale spindle]

if you do use her as a ship then it does gain points faster

but you don't need to use her to get the minimum points necessary to acquire her actually if that makes sense

most little ships suck, but little anchorage and little agir are based on actually good ships, so their little forms aren't massive dead weights

[wispy creek]

anyone mind sharing their OpSi fleets? i need to revamp my fleets since im running 3 BB fleets and thats less than optimal.

[agile patrol]

At what pity should I expect to get a UR?

[ivory pawn]

200.

[agile patrol]

Average*

[viscid swift]

80 pulls?

[wispy creek]

expected value is 83 pulls (100/1.2)

but it could be 8 it could be 150 more to hit pity

[agile patrol]

.. makes sense
1.2% per pull, so theoretical 83 pulls for 100%

[wispy creek]

correct, thats the epxected value

[sweet delta]

The expected number of builds to get your first Lion is 76

[agile patrol]

Can you like uhhhhhh

ermmm.. uhhh . you know.
wish me well and stuff 🥺 💜

that'll totally get me lion soon

[wispy creek]

GL, HF.

[sweet delta]

No

[agile patrol]

WOW.

[wispy creek]

its 50/50 you either get her or you dont

[ornate narwhal]

Do I need to clear D3 to unlock the SP stage?

[soft raft]

Yes

[pseudo hearth]

Any suggestions based on who I’m missing?

[wispy creek]

tashkent is pretty good for her slow, Bristol was very handy for me for W15

[brisk dragon]

what's on this 1.1gb update? thought event started like 10 days ago

[boreal wagon]

more skins and a new feature for PR "dupes"

[brisk dragon]

👀 pr "dupes"?

[pseudo hearth]

Said feature is somewhat broken though

[sweet delta]

There's a lot of FP tech, but in terms of endgame usage it's just Kirov at level 1 for EX scoring

[boreal wagon]

its in the pins but the tl;dr is u can create projections (dupes) that allow you to have them carry more than one skin as secretary

[pseudo hearth]

It just lets you put your PR into multiple secretary slots.

[wicked dawn]

General question as a newbie, how long is too long to have your starter ship on your main fleet? I’ve started to retrofit her, if that makes a difference,

[undone plover]

When she is level 120 take her out
If you have a better replacement that you can MLB you can also replace her if levelling that replacement wont slow u down

[worldly pewter]

i think the issue is within the transition between 1 to 2 fleeting

[wicked dawn]

Sorry, I’m gonna need some help with terminology here. MLB?

[sweet delta]

are starter DDs and/or their retrofits still recommended now that they're not needed for rookie missions?

[worldly pewter]

[wicked dawn]

See for me, I just really like Nimi so I want to keep her in my main rotation for as long as possible. Personal bias, hah.

[worldly pewter]

maybe because as far as i am seeing now people are still lacking good ships to level

[undone plover]

Max limit break = full star
U need 4 copies/bulins for that

[undone plover]

Then take her out when she is 120 since after that you are wasting xp

[wicked dawn]

Ah gotcha. I feel like I’m getting Bulins out the wazoo.

[undone plover]

Can put her in boss if u want to keep her longer
So long as u are not gimping your progression for her sake

[undone plover]

U might get a lot but u will need a lot as well
Especially when u start working on fleet 2

[wicked dawn]

Makes sense to me. Also, I’m already on two fleet, so I really appreciate the advice.

I’m new, but I’ve spent way too much time playing over the last week or so.

[undone plover]

Well some ppl do start 2 fleets early

Which hurts their progression to be fair
What map are u farming right now?
Can you screenshot your 2 fleets

[wicked dawn]

Oh yeah I can do that. One sec.

I mostly farm 3-4 right now, but I’m as far as 7-1.

[undone plover]

Probably not but depends what else is available in a jiffy
Cuz guild shop picks are pretty fixed I think
So not sure if another good van is available early

[worldly pewter]

it all converges towards cost to performance

[undone plover]

Oh i see
Well
1- dont farm 3-4, u can come back to the fox mine later
2- start farming event, u want to hit D maps as soon as possible

[wicked dawn]

I gotcha. I’m through the B maps now, but can’t figure out how to progress to C and D. I’ve got three stars in all A and B,

[undone plover]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[wicked dawn]

Also I got the screenshots of my fleets. I guess I can just post them here?

[undone plover]

Yes if only 2 pictures it wont be an issue

[wicked dawn]

Ah. That’ll do it.

[undone plover]

We can take it to a thread if it is too much

[worldly pewter]

looks like a thread time

[wicked dawn]

I need to replace the Bulin.

[undone plover]

Ok thread time
Show me your whole dock we need to fix a few things

[wicked dawn]

Ope I feel like I’ve done something wrong. Hah.

[undone plover]

Valvaryon3 elp :murmlove:

[weary gate]

going fine for now, thanks for the advice not to waste xp

[sweet delta]

Stephen potter is a guild shop choice, could be worth picking up before or after helena. 4 day delay at max

[atomic abyss]

TY?

[sweet delta]

Yw

But the missile

[atomic abyss]

eh it's not like you'll retro her immediately

and she's as good as any starter DD pre retro

[waxen valley]

Boop

[wheat ore]

what does uss>reset mean?

[atomic abyss]

prioritise US boxes

[wheat ore]

which one is that eagle?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[wheat ore]

ah okay

is it okay to use 2 oil tanks if i don't have anything better

[atomic abyss]

yes, but please get rid of that BTD...

purple helldiver >>> gold btd

[wheat ore]

these are all the divebombers i have

[soft raft]

god why is that +8

[soft raft]

look at that perfectly pristine +6 Helldiver right there

[wheat ore]

idk what is bad so i just end up leveling it

[soft raft]

/equip give the first link a read for what's considered good gear

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[atomic abyss]

these are the best divebombers in the game bar rainbow ones

[wheat ore]

oh what, that's very misleading then if it's purple lmfao

[atomic abyss]

rarity =/= quality

[soft raft]

^

[atomic abyss]

the best BB guns from tech boxes are also purple

the best HP aux is also purple

[soft raft]

a good chunk of the gold gear in this game is meh

and some UR gears are extremely niche

[supple ember]

What do we do with the villa coins once we already bought everything in the shop?¿

[atomic abyss]

nothing

[wheat ore]

that's actually so odd

[supple ember]

Will they be converted to normal coins or something after the event?

[atomic abyss]

prolly not

[hushed sorrel]

that would have been something in the shop. since its not inside it will be to 99,99% no convertion. small chance of error since they could do it

[quartz nest]

What's skin projection in the research menu?

[hollow gust]

lets you have multiple copies of a PR Ships in secretary order to use multiple skins

[hushed sorrel]

thats the first picture in pined messages. it explains it with more detail

[quartz nest]

Ty

[wheat ore]

this is my boss fleet so far, apparently i've been told that belfast is not great to invest in. is that true?

[hushed sorrel]

dont know. ender knows that better than me

[soft raft]

Yes
Belfast is a very old ship and her kit nowadays is painfully underwhelming

[wheat ore]

ah okay, should i invest in trafalgar so i can replace belfast with her?

i don't have many good frontline options i think

[undone plover]

Do u have UR bulins for her?
U need 2 for lion as well

[hollow gust]

There we go, much easier
https://youtu.be/SSVGeX5rTnc?si=5n6hlx7xg3poRA2I

[undone plover]

Show your frontlines lets see

[wheat ore]

oh no i don't have enough bulins but i was saying like in the future when i do manage to build up trafalgar would she be a good replacment

[undone plover]

Yes trafalgar is great

But u need someone else for now

[hushed sorrel]

if you still need 2 for lions and 4 for traf that means you need multiple month for the ur bulins. i wouldnt think about that option at this moment

[wheat ore]

ye i created a thread with my options

[undone plover]

Yeah I am there

[hollow gust]

trafalgar is hilarious, i swapped my z52 for a trafalgar and pulled 500k on my lion

[silk helm]

traf is better than z52?

[forest palm]

with Lion sure

[hollow gust]

For lion specially , just use ply trafalgar z52

[forest palm]

though probably can just run Traffy + 52 + Plymouth/Mog

[silk helm]

is the new bb boss fleet alsace, lion, vanguard?

[forest palm]

BZ > Vanny

[hollow gust]

If boss no move , Vanny is good
If boss move, Bismarck best bb

[silk helm]

haven't played long enough for bz 😦 but soon

[clever needle]

what does the button "create projection" do (that spends 200 gems) when i don't own any skins of that shipgirl

[forest palm]

I'd rather dump Alsace for BZ

[fierce lantern]

what is this feature

[hollow gust]

That button gives you the 5th slot , so useless

[silk helm]

rlly? why is that

[forest palm]

blackhole

also her damage

[hollow gust]

Black hole useless if boss no move

[silk helm]

damn okay. well i'll get bz soon. should i stop cubing pr6? i'm at 600 cubes

[hollow gust]

Why cube Pr6

[stark quiver]

why were you even doing pr6 to begin with
and cubing above that

cubing the worse season

[silk helm]

idk i swear someone here told me too after i cubed pr7

[stark quiver]

who

[silk helm]

berke

[forest palm]

I don't think the damage difference is that much higher between BZ and Alsace, come to think of it

[viscid swift]

sigh

[stark quiver]

are you serious?

[silk helm]

jk i forgot. anyways i wanna wrap up kear and hinden before pr8 anyways

[surreal coral]

hey newbie here, from the messages i read here, its better to focus on 1 fleet to push campaign (i"m at 5-1 rn) ? And also will someone be kind enough to recommend me a good fleet to build from what i got in my dock ?

[stark quiver]

not by cubing
you just grief your cubes

[viscid swift]

I'd honestley rather get more La-9s

you only have a month and a half

[stark quiver]

how many la9s do you even have

[forest palm]

even Quad 152s would be more productive than PR6

[silk helm]

only got 1 sadly

aight! im gunna stick out hiden then swap!

i didn't know pr6 was 🗑️

[viscid swift]

also as a heads up, I expect Zwei to rerun soon as well as the Ryza collab

[novel solstice]

At world 5, you should one-fleet the campaign. By world 9 or so, start a second fleet, you'll need it at some point.

Post your dock in a thread and people can make suggestions.

[stark quiver]

now u have 2 somewhat useless ships and no med armor damage

[silk helm]

thanks cheeky, i'll keep that in mind

[clever needle]

oki thanks

[forest palm]

I don't know if I'd call Kears, and Hinden bad, but they fill roles that aren't really needed, and the gear from PR6 isn't all that desirable either

[silk helm]

okay so maybe i go pr7 then wait for coin up for pr6 then

[stark quiver]

tho i personally am going to pr6 after 7

[silk helm]

after 7 la 9s? 😂

[forest palm]

I'm glad to have finished PR6 the year it came out

[stark quiver]

i dont need a 5th la9

[viscid swift]

famous last words

[stark quiver]

truly

[turbid marsh]

i mean unless pr8 + jp anni reinforce CV era, highly doubt need 5th la9 XD

[surreal coral]

Help building a fleet

[proper cypress]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[silk helm]

lowkey suchi cooked w that tier list

[wicked dawn]

We have a bot called Bridal Z23. I love it here.

[proper cypress]

who is better flagship for 1 fleet for beginner Richelieu, sovetaskaya bellorussiya, or nelson?

[viscid swift]

I'd Richelieu between the 3

[pseudo hearth]

Around when do we expect to see the next permanent UR to be added?

[viscid swift]

not for a few months still

[fast frigate]

140 pull still no lion

luck so bad in this game

[stark quiver]

ok?

[balmy skiff]

how good is Lion gun?

[stark quiver]

best antilight gun

[glad pine]

does anybody have a good equipment loadout for the trafalgar?

[viscid swift]

Something like that

use normal auxes if you don't have the collab stuff

[hollow gust]

Huh wtf

[glad pine]

okay thanks

how do you decide what kind of gun to put where?

like how did you decide on that main gun specifically

[viscid swift]

maths and paper calcs mainly

[glad pine]

oh jesus christ

[viscid swift]

to determine which would net the most damage

[hollow gust]

Well for trafalgar her barrage is strong, meanwhile her gun damage isn't as good. So a blue gun that procs barrage well is prefered

[forest palm]

her torp damage worth a damn? or is it all AoA?

[hollow gust]

her torp damage isnt very good

[hard mesa]

Skill barrage, proc every gun fired

[hollow gust]

what was takao gimmick tf

[stark quiver]

wat

[hollow gust]

This makes no sense

[polar lion]

How does the new PR thingy works?

[hollow gust]

Pinned

[polar lion]

Thanks

[kind slate]

where can i get rid of low resolve from arbiter

[hollow gust]

exit, then fight something

[ornate narwhal]

When is the next break between events? Like when can I grind story

[forest palm]

possibly next week...hard to tell we'll know when the time draws near

[worldly pewter]

usually it is when u are done from the event but as a new player u won't be done from ur first event even if it is a 3 weeks one

[white agate]

why are you using a cv cat in a bb fleet?

[hollow gust]

eh forgot, oh well

[stark quiver]

idt it matters that much

[hollow gust]

only really changes how fast the clear is

Takao has damage reduction mode , no wonder why

[warped acorn]

tf how

is ply a must when paired with lion 🤔

[stark quiver]

no

[forest palm]

Plymouth is just win more

[warped acorn]

and the dmg gap is so far between ships

[forest palm]

cause Plymouth and Traf are buffing Lion

[warped acorn]

blud going to have abt 1k fp at this point

also who is that third bb there after soy

[ornate narwhal]

If I pull a copy of the meta will I be able to buy the crystals or still have to buy the first 6k one?

[hollow gust]

The damage gap is cause of the stupid takao shields , ships that fire first suffer from the takao debuff

[stark quiver]

if you have a first copy of glorious meta, then the meta crystals automatically unlock in event shop

[ornate narwhal]

Approx how many runs would it take to get her in B3?

[stark quiver]

between 1 and infinity

[ornate narwhal]

lol

[left cedar]

literally that is the answer

[wind oxide]

You should do some ritual shit for luck

[left cedar]

no need, just play

but rituals or prays, or ur lucky things is optional

[viscid swift]

still have yet to see an SR drop from B3

[ornate narwhal]

How many vouchers can I get starting now without sp stage? I did the vacay event and have 115 rn

[wind oxide]

Prob 60k if you do what I do

[viscid swift]

check the pins

[blissful sigil]

id like some advice. im currently farming gold and exp on my main fleets on event hardmode C3
my fleet cant do D1 and id like some tips on how to move forward to S.P. (currently 8-1 on main quest)

most chars have +6 purple items and +3 to 6 on aux blue/purples
what can i do better to accomplish getting to event SP?

[warped acorn]

did someone tested lil agir yet

[turbid marsh]

on paper sure theres plenty of people tested, ig probably not, who wants to go for NPC?

[viscid swift]

I mean what is there to really say about her

[warped acorn]

what if her compare to portland 🤔

[atomic abyss]

Slightly tankier than port

[turbid marsh]

stick to C3 until you get lion and traf mlb (ASSUMING thats your only UR. focus on mlb lion first, and dont really need to use traf if shes not mlb)

[viscid swift]

well first, getting your ships max limit broken and droping those that can't be MLB

[blissful sigil]

sorry im not familiar with some abbreviations, whats MLB?

[viscid swift]

max limit break

[blissful sigil]

tysm

[atomic abyss]

Plus: Slightly tankier
Plus: Can be used to grind roon
Con: Can't be used to unlock roon
Con: Can't be used to unlock Sanrui

[warped acorn]

oh damn

[blissful sigil]

i remember about 5 years ago back when i played, laffey is very good on dps? recently got her retrofit

[soft raft]

(Little ships dont provide tech points or fleet tech)

[atomic abyss]

At that point just use Eugen ffs

[atomic abyss]

Not at all
Even 5 years ago she wasn't

[viscid swift]

by modern standards no but she'll one of the best you have for a while

[atomic abyss]

The only time laffey retro was ever top tier was in 2018 lol

[soft raft]

decently solid for a beginner ship, overall? meh
she has a unique aug but I wouldnt really reccomend crafting it

[blissful sigil]

i used her until chap 9-10 ish. then moved onto URs and other SRs that i obtained. cant remember well who they were

[swift hornet]

What's a good mob fleet for OPSI?

[viscid swift]

yeah your 1 limit break URs ain't beating a retrofitted Laffey

[blissful sigil]

these are what ik that are good from what i remembered. lots of new ships to play with tho. im a bit overwhelmed with old/new infos

[viscid swift]

how many bulins do you have/can get, URs and SRs

[blissful sigil]

5 SRs, 14 Elites. Recently used UR on Traf

[viscid swift]

really shouldn't have on that last one