gameplay-help

[sweet delta]

Clear chapter 4 of opsi campaign first

[atomic abyss]

then i think rainbow gears are the least of your issues
should work on getting the good gold stuff first

[stray cobalt]

Do the villa coins actually do anything after you buy out the shop or do they just sit there?

[stark quiver]

they sit, its more for less active players

[honest stirrup]

Yeah but afaik the SG radar modifies every Helena skill proc, while the table only reduces the first one, so if I want to fire 3 volleys doesn't that eventually desync

[atomic abyss]

and the table does the same as the radar

reduces first

[sweet delta]

Your understanding of SG Helena is incorrect

[atomic abyss]

so it's like
16, 36, 56, 76 for helena

[sweet delta]

This is right

[honest stirrup]

Oh yeah nevermind the sg only reduces the first

[ornate narwhal]

As a beginner who should I get from the invitation?

[cobalt rapids]

taihou still not in pins

[atomic abyss]

@vale spindle

[pastel flax]

What would be good gold gear for opsi

[ornate narwhal]

So I read the pin, but I don’t have many units, so tech points don’t matter for me yet and my team rn is the recommended beginner team but with Rodney

[vale spindle]

added

[cobalt rapids]

why rodney

[ornate narwhal]

Bc u get the flag for upgrading Rodney and Nelson

[cobalt rapids]

i mean yes but u dont have to use her

[ornate narwhal]

Oh

[cobalt rapids]

shes quite bad
the one u wanna use is nelson if u have her

[pastel flax]

Yes use Nelson and try to retro fit her

[ornate narwhal]

Alternatively I have huaan ch’ang or valiant or Penn

[cobalt rapids]

maybe u can show ur dock

[ornate narwhal]

I lit started 10 min ago so I don’t have much

[pastel flax]

Who are you trying to use

[eternal moth]

click on the cat paws btw

[pastel flax]

Yeah swap Rodney for huan

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

And who should I get from the letter

[eternal moth]

honestly this early in the game you dont need to worry about fleet comp, just use who you think looks cool

[pastel flax]

True, it really doesn't matter till later chapter and opsi

[cobalt rapids]

penny unicorn X - portland helena z23
and X is either taihou if u get her from the letter or something like ranger ( LI can stay as placeholder )
the other option would be to pick u81 for late game but theres also a chance that when lategame comes ull have other options
depends what u wanna prio

[opaque galleon]

You will get Nelson naturally, Nelson retrofit is better than huan chang so I wouldn’t bother with huan rn

[ornate narwhal]

So don’t use huaan?

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt use huan no

[pastel flax]

Just retro fit

You will get nelson pretty quickly

[opaque galleon]

Helena and unicorn are going to stick with you for the rest of the game, so feel free to keep them in your fleet, though unicorn needs to be retrofit asap

[ornate narwhal]

So something like this?

[pastel flax]

Yup retrofit her quickly she will be amazing

[atomic abyss]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[opaque galleon]

That’s fine, I’d put Saratoga in the renown spot if you have her

[atomic abyss]

repulse but yes

[ornate narwhal]

I don’t have her…

[ornate narwhal]

Don’t have her either

[pastel flax]

You will get her it's easy

[ornate narwhal]

So keep li fn?

[cobalt rapids]

keep LI fn

[pastel flax]

You get her through sorties

[cobalt rapids]

try to push but at the same time you should also use anything u can spare to roll for Lion
try to level ur merchant as much as possible

[pastel flax]

Ur are going to help a lot especially at end game

[opaque galleon]

Does Baltimore get to t0 with her augment?

[atomic abyss]

lol no

not even close

not as a dps, not as a buffer

for her to be used over other CV buffers
you'd need like a triple US UR CV fleet

[sweet delta]

Considering that Kala and Drake are T0, I'd say Baltimore should be T0 on ectl

[atomic abyss]

[opaque galleon]

Balti armor break is unique, guaranteed and permanent afaik so isn’t her buffing in the same ballpark as Plymouth?

[atomic abyss]

armour break... for a US CV buffer

[sweet delta]

No

[vale spindle]

kearsarge

[wind girder]

[sweet delta]

Well yes, her buff is in the same ballpark as Plymouth in a kear Yorkii someone fleet

[sleek leaf]

Fleet Help

[atomic abyss]

the issue is, who tf is that someone

[opaque galleon]

The same would be true for triple BB no?

[sweet delta]

By someone I mean not eagle union carrier

[atomic abyss]

consider that the frontline slots for anti light are highly contested to begin with
aurora, z52, sirius

and ply is... an actual DPS unlike balti

and now trafalgar is also an option

[sweet delta]

Tldr Baltimore is good but not top and should be T0 on ectl

[opaque galleon]

Balti damage with Aug isn’t bad though no?

[atomic abyss]

compared to ply though?

i mean at this point you'd have to ask if you use either ply or balti for a kears fleet*

[opaque galleon]

Is there no argument to have Balti buffing a BB fleet with strong vanguard dps ships like Hindenburg?

[hollow gust]

have fun tanking with balti

[kind slate]

does anybody have the spreadsheet with all the different planes for different armour types?

[kind slate]

yippee thnx

[atomic abyss]

at that point you'd use guam or agir who can actually tank

[ornate narwhal]

If I get lion should I use her immediately

[sweet delta]

What's Baltimore's timing? 15 35 55?

[kind slate]

it says doesnt account for skills.
would any of shinano amagi or implac affect this?

[cobalt rapids]

new players like u can start using her after lb1/2

[atomic abyss]

yes

[atomic abyss]

amagi buffs TBs
so she (and anyone she buffs) would prefer TBs over rockets against med

[kind slate]

oh. so i would try to give tbs to the entire squad if i can

[cobalt rapids]

for example amagi equalizes tbs to bf109g on med assuming u have a freeze

[atomic abyss]

well, she doesnt buff impla so

[ornate narwhal]

Is Tallinn good?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[rigid onyx]

do retrofit items rerun every in a year or is it a 2 year wait? missed eldkai item on my alt

[light trail]

are there any significant meta ships I can get by dossiers

[atomic abyss]

jintsuu ig

[light trail]

or do i just try to go for whoever i think is sexy

[atomic abyss]

significant for pvp/torp nuke stuff

[tame jungle]

if you think jintsuu meta's sexy then i guess that's 2 birds in one stone

[atomic abyss]

otherwise, rest are mostly tech
souryuu has the best tech

[light trail]

I don't really care about pvp

[stark quiver]

merits are free bulins

[light trail]

100% wr pvp without caring about super meta comps isnt hard tho

[stark quiver]

well yea, pvp is easy

just go for whoever gives good tech

[light trail]

okok

[lofty shadow]

Ok guys

I got this stuff

Idk who to use and who to avoid to invest on

[sweet delta]

Where's Lion?

[lofty shadow]

Ain't got her

I'm pulling but she ain't coming out

[sweet delta]

and you need to stop spreading UR bulins to different URs

[lofty shadow]

Really shy for a lion

[lofty shadow]

? Shinano I did her just with copies

[sweet delta]

And mogador and Trafalgar?

[lofty shadow]

Just got traffy

Morgador I forgot about her

New whatever she's called I don't like her

[sweet delta]

I mean you used bulins on mog and traf

[lofty shadow]

Ye a year ago

[sweet delta]

Now retrofit unicorn, raise enterprise, and maybe raise Glorious meta too

[viscid swift]

sigh

[lofty shadow]

On Morg cause then I left

Ok so don't invest in many

Quality over quantity right?

[viscid swift]

something like that yeah

[lofty shadow]

Ok

[ornate narwhal]

When does the event banner end?

[lofty shadow]

Can I also get 2 teams?

Thanks y'all in advance

[viscid swift]

where are you in the main campaign right now?

[lofty shadow]

9-1

[viscid swift]

how many bullins have you got right now?

[lofty shadow]

0 probably

Every ship is in the photos

If there's no bulin ain't got secret ones

[slow fox]

Would you like me to begin normalizing the enemy eHP to allied damage timings?

To "unflatten" the damage

[lofty shadow]

Also y'all talked about meta units idk how to use them

[atomic abyss]

you dont

[lofty shadow]

All I know is some fucked up ship version

[lofty shadow]

Uh?

[modern sandal]

Meta Ship grinding is hell too...

[ivory pawn]

6/11, you have over 2 weeks.

[atomic abyss]

i was expecting a difference cos AA affects plane dmg so

[slow fox]

Ah, AA damage of course

[atomic abyss]

gold meta ships tend to be good ships
the issue is, they're a pain to enhance, skill upgrade etc

so at that point use regular gold ships

[lofty shadow]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

~~ i mean AA stat reducing plane dmg~~

[viscid swift]

Mob: Tirpitz, Unicorn, Saratoga, Portland, ????, ?????
Boss: Soyuz, Enterprise, Ark Royal, Henrich, Helena, Z23

[lofty shadow]

Ok thanks

[viscid swift]

kinda in a difficult position with the lack of bullins

[lofty shadow]

I'll get them

I never used Enterprise

[modern sandal]

and invest in dock expansion you cant sortie if your dock reach the limit

[lofty shadow]

I know it's a pain

I had lots of gems but I bought Tirpitz kimono skin

Was worth it

[modern sandal]

waaaait a minute

[tame jungle]

that's such a waste lol

unless you spend on the game in which case it doesn't matter

[modern sandal]

was thoses gems from map drop?!

[lofty shadow]

Ye

And commissions too I think some from quests too if I remember right

[slow fox]

All I can derive from this information is that BBs have high alpha, if these comps are competitive against each other.

Revealing causes Hornet to gain 30% more eHP

[tender girder]

do long time player ever run out of cubes in this game?

[atomic abyss]

[atomic abyss]

long time, consistent players dont

[tame jungle]

unlikely, especially once you start getting reruns of ships you already own

[white agate]

not if they manage them wisely, aka if you are too unlucky to get a girl and you burn 2k cubes(chances are really really small for it to happen tho)

[tender girder]

then, if i'm sitting on 1000 cubes. should i try to pull more of lion to save on UR bullion?

[sweet delta]

i wouldn't risk it. Theres a nonzero chance you do 500 pulls and don't get a collab ship

[white agate]

no

since bis 2 over the corner and collab too, also they increased special core aquisition now i think so it's even less convenient

[tender girder]

okay!..

[sharp pine]

Is it worth using the wishing well to get Aquila or Impero if I don't have them?

[woven star]

In theory with bad luck you can run out of cubes on non UR event pull cos non UR don't have pity points

[atomic abyss]

1. Do you have Lion
2. How many cubes
3. Do you have Bis2

[meager tiger]

me when i see math in my huge yammies and massive yiddies anime girl game

[sharp pine]

1. Yes
2. 593
3. Yes

[atomic abyss]

i would consider 1 ww build a day then

[atomic abyss]

ngl, this whole thing has been a super eye-opening experience
in a completely different way than i expected

[rigid onyx]

in what way?

enemy ehp isnt nearly as complex as ship ehp

[slow fox]

Can I know the insight 😭

Like uhhh "X does Y amount of damage vs A doing B amount of damage"?

[atomic abyss]

i mean my personal revelation was how insane carreir damage really was

and if it werent for AA existing BBs would be cooked

the conceal calcs helped tho

[proud bolt]

It supposed to change into fate simulation isn't it? It was like that even before PR 7 release iirc.

[viscid swift]

Agir doesn't have a Fate Sim yet

[atomic abyss]

agir has no fate sim

[proud bolt]

Oh... she hasn't yet?

[atomic abyss]

no, she hasnt

[proud bolt]

Thanks for the answering. I though my account was cursed lol

[civic wedge]

Should I sell dupes if i already mlb the unit?

[soft raft]

Yes
There is no pratical justification for dupes

[slow fox]

Okay. Sweet. This was also my insight.

[slow fox]

How so? My interpretation of this is that people are overreacting to being relvealed

[atomic abyss]

well, the ones overreacting are those aiming for OHKOs

[hollow gust]

Wha

[undone plover]

30% is like having a helena

[slow fox]

I've been running one META raid fleet for like forever. Always get 2 shots

[atomic abyss]

the question me and faer were having

[undone plover]

smol helena

[atomic abyss]

for someone who is weaker aka the average player
and cant maintain conceal
would someone using BBs have a better time than someone using CVs

[stark quiver]

cant we just test that

[slow fox]

I don't think the eHP angle is a proper way to approach that question without knowing the relative alpha damages (6k damage, 3k damage, 200 damage) of the compositions.

[atomic abyss]

or rather at what point would it be true

[undone plover]

yes u probably need the exact alphas to make that math work

[stark quiver]

alpha

[slow fox]

It probably doesn't need to be exact...I think I can make it work with general timings and damage values.

[undone plover]

well u will need to account for buffs/debuffs since the fleets will be different

[slow fox]

Simply take a rate average :mutsukisus:

[slow fox]

Also, what's the variable on the x-axis being measured here? BB alpha?

[viscid swift]

well, what BBs are we talking about here

[slow fox]

triple BB, so say, lion, bis2, als
vs soy, nakh, rum

[viscid swift]

next question then I guess, how many La-9s

[stark quiver]

in qem, do i wanna use twin 76 or 134 on whichitam

[slow fox]

0

[viscid swift]

134

[atomic abyss]

0 assumed

[stark quiver]

more fp gud?

[viscid swift]

interesting choice

so this'll be a straight 3 strike comparrison then

[slow fox]

Vs uhh 4 BB salvos?

[viscid swift]

vs 3 BB salvos

[slow fox]

blessex for 3-3

[hollow gust]

Tried that already , BBs got clapped

[viscid swift]

maybe a partial 4th from like Zwei but you're not 4 cycling with champagne guns and middling investment in tech and oaths in a 4 strike

[slow fox]

Okay 3.5 salvos

[viscid swift]

especially with Raffello gun in the mix

[sweet delta]

would three +13 457s be more than middling investment?

[slow fox]

-# suchimisinformation spotted

[sullen birch]

Good enough?

[viscid swift]

I'll have to double check the but for now, assume Zwei gets off only her first volley in her 4th volley, Lion and Alsace don't get their 4th and 5th respectively at all

[rigid onyx]

rainbow oxy is interesting

[slow fox]

3.1 salvos

[atomic abyss]

no oxy please
she's frail enough as is

[soft raft]

Huh 76mm

[sullen birch]

Hmmm
What do you suggest as replacement?

[sweet delta]

did you forget to enhance her?

[atomic abyss]

another toolbox

[atomic abyss]

toolbox or any HP aux
oxy torp dont usually see any use tbh
outside some subs

or ig an unzen

[slow fox]

For reference, these eHP values assume that everything in the game deals 1 damage. This is obviously untrue. If the proposed compositions "compete" with each other, then this comparison only holds valid to determine how much AA DmgRed that Hornet has. For example, it's immediately obvious that both compositions for the OHKO must deal 1 280 000 damage. (after damage reduction/modification considerations)

Considering that the numbers that pop up when you hit the enemy are POST dmgred considerations, these numbers roughly mean how much damage must be in transit before it strikes the enemy - which the game has no way of showing to the player. These calculations are intermediate.

For example, in a 3 strike revealed CV composition, each "wave" of airplanes would need to carry like 1.7 million damage. (idk how much Soyuz contributes)

[rigid onyx]

am I stupid for thinking this is useless.

[slow fox]

That 1.7 million gets reduced to 0.5 million, which then Hornet avoids half of.

So this is the statement that I'd derive from these calculations: "CVs send 3-4x more damage in transit to Hornet" (which isn't necessarily the damage she receives)

So, based off of this, the question I would be answering is: "How much more damage would BBs need to send in transit to make their composition competitive with the CV composition?"

[sullen birch]

Ok

[sullen birch]

What about the other kit ?

[atomic abyss]

what other kit

the stats stack

[rigid onyx]

it's for the hp not effect

[polar lion]

Mebot, do u calculate AA for Traf vs z52?

[slow fox]

Samesame

[atomic abyss]

which is a shame

[polar lion]

Is it including z52 ghost gun?

[slow fox]

I don't think so. I'm also in the process of trying to understand the implications of this question. If it so happens that the calc that I would put out is useless, then tehe. If it's useful, then it's useful.

[slow fox]

Yes.

[polar lion]

Aight thanks

[slow fox]

I'm not sure if this "damage in transition" formulation would be useful to compare how much more damage a BB needs to do in order to catch up to the CV composition -

HOWEVER, the damage in transition is proportional to the damage dealt.

Meaning that - if I claim that the BBs need 2-3x more damage in transition to match the CV comp, then you need to increase the alpha of BBs by 2-3x. This is an actionable goal.

It's just that the transition -> real damage ratio is different for the two comps.

[undone plover]

does anyone have the CN link for meta fight guide?

i need a hornet BB comp

[brisk dragon]

out of those who aren't MLB.who should i MLB next?

[viscid swift]

I think sushi used Richelieu, Alsace, Zwei

[undone plover]

is that like the best one? for BB? or is there a more "conventional" comp

[viscid swift]

Zuiho, Eldridge if you have her retro item, the rest is just tech

[brisk dragon]

why those 2? what are they good for?

[viscid swift]

well it's the only one I know of that one shot without Helena

could probably replace Richelieu with Lion though

[dreamy blade]

zuihou is a very good healer for dds

[viscid swift]

Eldridge retro massive increases vanguard survivability and gives a 60% slow
Zuiho is good at healing low bas HP ships(i.e. DDs)

[undone plover]

do you have a link cheeky
I need the gear

[viscid swift]

I don't but I know it was cursed

at least one +13 460 was involved

[brisk dragon]

i see. should i just use Bullins for Eldridge or buy dupes?

[dreamy blade]

suchi has an example w15 fleet that uses raff+uni+zuihou for mob

[slow fox]

If this BB comp successfully oneshots, and the CV comp successfuly one shots, I want to verify this statement:

Both compositions dealt the same amount of damage.

[dreamy blade]

dupes are more expensive than bulins

[viscid swift]

just use Bullins

it's literally more expensive to buy dupes than bullins

[brisk dragon]

oh ok

when did she get retro btw? i don't remember it

[atomic abyss]

last aug

retro item limited

[brisk dragon]

u mean almost a year ago ?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[brisk dragon]

what. i once a while filter ships by Retro available. never noticed her

[dreamy blade]

do you have her retro item?

[brisk dragon]

yeh i do

don't remember how or when

[stark quiver]

doing her event and during her event ofc

[brisk dragon]

no shiet i meant i just do stuff on auto pilot. don't remember intentionally get Eldridge's retro item

[wheat ore]

i have already got lion, should i still do 3 daily pulls for the mission. is it worth it?

[stark quiver]

nah

[viscid swift]

how many cubes do you have, are you short on UR Bullins, and how far are you away from pity

[wheat ore]

oh i have like 400 cubes

[dreamy blade]

then no

Just farm the event if you need points, mission isn't much

[viscid swift]

what about the rest

[polar lion]

R we gonna hav mainten later?

[ivory pawn]

Probably. We usually do.

[viscid swift]

today? no

[cursive laurel]

sorry if theres an obvious answer im missing but what exactly do you do with opsi ap and i dont mean like on the surface level of what can it be spent on like how should you spend it
i already got all the hidden zones, the abyssal zones and siren strongholds are too strong for me at this point, so after exploration & getting all the records what do i do with it besides dailys?

[viscid swift]

ok so first off, what are the levels of your adapts, seccond, you know with strongholds you can leave, heal in port and come back right?

but anyway, to answer your question, you repeat explorables, usually C3 or C5 until you have none left

[cursive laurel]

244/272/226 i cant do abyssals because i havent been playing long enough for my ships to be 120 yet but the tuning is enough for 70/70/100
and no i did not know you could go back for heals in strongholds sorry and thank you

why 3 and 5 specifically?

[viscid swift]

as it turns out those give the most returns for your AP

[dreamy blade]

3 and 4 are same rewards but 3 is less AP, same with 5 and 6

[south sequoia]

I forgot, where do you get gold meta books again

[hollow gust]

buy them from meta shop

[ornate narwhal]

What are the “best” teams?

[stark quiver]

for?

[ornate narwhal]

Like in general

[atomic abyss]

there isnt such thing

there are different best fleets for different content

[stark quiver]

like 6 good UR boats

[atomic abyss]

there's no such thing as a one fleet fits all "best team"

[ornate narwhal]

What are the like top teams for each type of content?

[stark quiver]

probably 4+ UR boats

[atomic abyss]

well, are you firstly aware of what type of content there is

[ornate narwhal]

Oh so high rarity=good

[atomic abyss]

when late game yes

[ornate narwhal]

Ik about siren but what else is there

[atomic abyss]

rarity is a pretty bad indicator of quality early on

[stark quiver]

most Ur ships are good

w15,w14,cm , etc

[ornate narwhal]

What’s cm?

[stark quiver]

extreme challenge

[atomic abyss]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

those are your various late/end game content

[ornate narwhal]

Wait it says the no image and image are the same charts but they aren’t right?

[sweet delta]

theyre the same data. Maybe someone sorted them differently using the green dropdown box

[ornate narwhal]

Ohhhh

[sweet delta]

But that's individual ships' strengths. For fleets against content, each content has different "best" fleets, and each content even has different bosses with different best fleets

[atomic abyss]

for example, there are 3 different hard arbiters

and each of them has a different armour type, thus different weakness and team needed to exploit it

[south sequoia]

Some of these hard arbiters also has modifiers that make certain team archetypes not work

so theres more than just 1 best fleet

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

Could I have an example of like a good general end game team?

[stark quiver]

hmm, an exmaple would be
musashi,aquila,unicorn,laffey2,z52,eldridge retro

[ornate narwhal]

Are they all UR besides unicorn

[atomic abyss]

aquila isnt

also that's just a w14/15 mob fleet

[stark quiver]

thats like a average campaign mob, can probably do event up to sp and ex normal

[ornate narwhal]

Ah ok

How many teams would I eventually have to build?

[atomic abyss]

at least 4

[ornate narwhal]

So that’s ~24 URs/DRs?

[atomic abyss]

there is some overlap, but yes, at least i'd say 16-18

[ornate narwhal]

Oh god

[atomic abyss]

that's end game content

[ornate narwhal]

Are any of the standard URs good? Also how long would it take to get DRs?

[atomic abyss]

all standard URs are good
but none are worth rolling for

[south sequoia]

Your concern with dr's should not lie within obtaining them since that is the easiest part, it should be how long would it take to complete them

[atomic abyss]

this isnt a gacha game

this is a resource management game

[ornate narwhal]

So like how long would it take to complete all of the good ones?

[atomic abyss]

2 years probably

[ornate narwhal]

So are they included in the ~18?

[atomic abyss]

1 if you play actively ig

just 1 of them is

[ornate narwhal]

All of them??? I thought it would be lot longer

Oh wait so it’s 1 year for 1 DR

[south sequoia]

No

[atomic abyss]

4-5 months per DR max

[south sequoia]

if it was 1 year for 1 dr we would've never even made it past pr6

[atomic abyss]

some can be done within 2 months

[ornate narwhal]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

but, the 2 years is from when you are able to do research effectively

not from when you start playing

[ornate narwhal]

How many DRs are there? And how many are worth using?

[atomic abyss]

11 DRs

[forest palm]

Drake making shit uneven

[south sequoia]

2 of which can be coined

[forest palm]

4

[atomic abyss]

9 of them are worth using

[south sequoia]

err, did they add coining for drake yet

[atomic abyss]

...

[south sequoia]

oh 4

OH RIGHT HAKURYUU

[atomic abyss]

cleo if agir and haku have coining...

[dreamy blade]

Agir Plymouth and nahkimov are the most used, Haku and hindenburg are also very good

[south sequoia]

I forgor

[atomic abyss]

in any case

i feel like you're worrying so much for no reason

[ornate narwhal]

So how many gacha URs would I need? All of them?

[atomic abyss]

i would like to emphasise this is for end game content

[south sequoia]

its still pretty possible to clear content without the highest and biggest drs with just gacha ssrs and well built ships

[dreamy blade]

There is also catchup and events for DR prints

[ornate narwhal]

Yea ik I just want to be prepared

[atomic abyss]

and obviously, the best fleets are going to use almost all of them

[ornate narwhal]

So all the URs are worth getting?

[atomic abyss]

pretty much most of the limited URs yes

all limited URs are worth rolling for and getting

[dreamy blade]

If there is a new UR banner like right now it is worth getting

[atomic abyss]

and a new player basically can ignore every other event banner

[south sequoia]

they rarely ever release great ssrs in some of these events anyways, sometimes you can find them in events with the UR banners

[ornate narwhal]

What are the SSR and belows that are worth picking up? Like unicorn

[atomic abyss]

you're looking at this the wrong way

no point thinking about the "end game" when you need stuff for the early game

a lot of whats optimal for late game isnt worth using early game

most, if not ALL URs are useless early on

[ornate narwhal]

Oh ok

[dreamy blade]

the recommended starter fleet with unicorn etc can take you all the way to w10-12

[south sequoia]

As a white haired individual with red streaks once said, playing for victory means playing the long game

[dreamy blade]

at which point you'll have more resources available to start thinking about other ships you may have

[errant bloom]

In there a list of ships at the top of current meta I can refer to?
I can't find that information anywhere

[atomic abyss]

out of the "new player fleet" only helena and unicorn see use in late game AL

[dreamy blade]

you can do /tierlist in #bot-spam and check the "endgame ranking"

[atomic abyss]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[errant bloom]

thank you

[dreamy blade]

or that

[hollow gust]

enty

[ornate narwhal]

Wait so what SSRs should I try to get to replace some of the beginner fleet?

[atomic abyss]

again, wrong approach

you cant rush the game lol

[south sequoia]

Just think about now

[dreamy blade]

^ with daily light pulls and/or events you just end up acquiring ships

[ornate narwhal]

Oh ok

[atomic abyss]

firstly, build the new player fleet, and see what you even get
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[south sequoia]

don't think about what you'll have to do in the future
because the future can't be formed if you don't have a proper beginning

[ornate narwhal]

Ok

[sharp socket]

so it seems like you're trying to figure out progression so ill just outline it for you

1. get started with newbie guide
2. learn the game and play the game
3. check back once in a while to see how you're doing
4. ask in this channel your questions and if you get stuck
5. enjoy the game
6. repeat for as long as you want to play the game

[south sequoia]

And a proper beginning is thinking about now, you worry about what the future will hold when you're approaching it
Anything can happen within the months and years you'll be reaching the late and end game

[sharp socket]

you could also do none of the steps and never come here again and still be perfectly happy buying skins and whatnot

at the end its just a game with little to none of a competitive aspect, AL is a very casual game to play

[steep sleet]

Is it possible to collect 82 cubes before lion banner ends? I didn't get any lion in last 156 pull ,Got 42 pull left of pity.

[atomic abyss]

difficult but not impossible

prob need a bit of commission luck

[ebon topaz]

Who should i be getting in the medal shop

[atomic abyss]

depends on the ships available

[steep sleet]

I do not expect much luck,But okey.Thanks.

[atomic abyss]

but definitely specialised core

[ebon topaz]

Ok thx

[sweet delta]

do the new player Handbook, which has 148 cubes in it

[harsh kettle]

idk if I am gaslighting myself or not, but did anyone post as to how much event currency it would take to get the URs in the shop?

tried to search that in the search bar, but no luck. figured I wasn't typing the right set of keywords

[weary gust]

200 * 150 + 300 * 150

[steep sleet]

This?

[fair lance]

If you did all the challenges and did SP day 1 you only need buy 85 which is 12,750 event currency

[harsh kettle]

I don't think I'm strong enough for the SP

But I have been grinding this whole time, so I have about 30kish event currency

[steep sleet]

Is it possible to build URs with event currency?

[soft raft]

you can not use event points on your pulls

[weary gust]

Trafalgar is from shop only. You can convert event points into tokens to buy her and some copies of her.

[fair lance]

So you would need 130 more tokens which would equal 19,500 if I did my math right.

[sweet delta]

yes you see that's 20 cubes right there for opening 9 tech packs

[harsh kettle]

Alright, thank you That should be enough then

[steep sleet]

I see.Thank you.

[glad mortar]

Should I replace my centurion with a howe?

[stark quiver]

centurion

[viscid swift]

centurion?

[stark quiver]

whats your fleet
i assume centaur

[rigid onyx]

pretty easy if you have starter missions left

[glad mortar]

I also plan to put a Cleo in my vanguard since it's weak lel

[stark quiver]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/guildshop
she wont help you , use fleets here, could probably keep lion

[glad mortar]

Thanks! Also another problem, how do I grind for coins..?

[sinful escarp]

12-1 for efficiency, 12-4 for fast, 13-4 for coins+ cogs

[stark quiver]

grind event right now

[sinful escarp]

but since there is an event, do D3 instead

[soft raft]

and since you look nowhere near W9 yet, you'd do the highest map you can after the event ends

[sinful escarp]

i would switch out eugen with either your starter or helena tbh

[glad mortar]

Thanks guys

[glad mortar]

Don't have a Helena only these

[stark quiver]

unzen

[glad mortar]

Yeah I got her back then

[wind hazel]

you can buy helena from guild shop. and don't raise multiple unicorn

[glad mortar]

Well I was told to replace my centaurion with a unicorn, so I did.

[wind hazel]

if you don't have UR bulin to mlb Lion, then mlb Owari and use her instead

i dont think they are telling you to replace centaur...

[viscid swift]

Yeah that was said in the context if you only using one fleet which you should

[warm trail]

Defeat escort ,how

[glad mortar]

That's what I assumed lol!

[dreamy blade]

turn off clearing mode

[glad mortar]

My mistake ig

[warm trail]

Oh

[dreamy blade]

hard mode clearing mode only spawns the boss

[viscid swift]

Owari, Unicorn, Centaur, Portland, Helena, starter DD

[warm trail]

So

Oh it was on

[wind hazel]

dont kill the boss

[wind hazel]

retreat>turn off clearing mode>fight escort>retreat again>do it again until 3*

[warm trail]

Oh i see, taskerrurusuuseh we hshuhshsus

[sinful escarp]

I would say to replace taihou muse instead

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1291035116323471461.webp?size=56

[warm trail]

[mellow mango]

I'm quite new to the opsi shohld i wait for the reset? Or grind it?

I just cleared the chapter 4

[sinful escarp]

grind it now so you can take advantage of the reset next month

clear the campaign in opsi so you can get the exchange currency next month, which is in a few days.

[mellow mango]

Okk thank youu @sinful escarp

[hardy creek]

How much tech points do you gain from 120ing a ship

[wind hazel]

depends on what ship

[sweet delta]

/wiki fleet tech

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[jagged canyon]

Heyo! I recently came back and currently going through W14. This is the mob fleet im using. Any guides to fix my fleet?

[zinc hornet]

if i switch off halford will the 32 hours for combat data collection keep ticking down?

[zinc hornet]

unicorn retro better than perseus

i can't comment on anything else because the only other one of those ships i use is shinano

[warm trail]

Do i need to advance in main story? Im at ch8

[wind hazel]

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[wind hazel]

eventually, focus on event for now

[zinc hornet]

ch12 is a good point to aim for outside events because 12-4 is just about the best xp grind

[warm trail]

When do i stop focusing on the event?

[wind hazel]

until you're done getting whatever you want from the shop

[warm trail]

Ah, exp grind for my lvl 1 ships?

[zinc hornet]

no, lvl 1s will die

[warm trail]

Inthink im good,do i need aanother trafalgar copy?

[wind hazel]

you want to

[warm trail]

How do i lvl them

[zinc hornet]

it's good for levelling through the higher levels

i usually use the xp books to start with

assuming you've got enough for the ships you want to use. it takes ~100 to get to lvl 70

[warm trail]

Ah

[zinc hornet]

usually a lvl 70 mlb ship with decent gear will survive 12-4 if protected by enough stronger ships

if I'm levelling ships around level 70 on 12-4, i usually bring a healer like retrofit unicorn

[warm trail]

Oh

[tawdry halo]

Which gear lab improvement is better for this gun

[warm trail]

Retro unicorn and slap whoever

[zinc hornet]

basically just level your ships in whatever stage you can clear with them

[viscid swift]

the top is for BBs only and the bottom is a really shit AA gun

[hollow gust]

wait now that i do the math, if i wanna lvl10 the fastest i should do rainbow

[tawdry halo]

Wtf

Thx

[zinc hornet]

yes lol

[hollow gust]

i can lvl10 in ~2 hours

[jagged canyon]

man i wish we had that instant skill level up event

[viscid swift]

well yeah, and cancel as soon as you've earned enough XP

[hollow gust]

lion almost done

[zinc hornet]

I'm very low on books

idk how you stock up so many

[stark quiver]

not using them, i have like a small amt of ships i actually level up the skills for

[viscid swift]

well it helps if you only have 2 skill training slots

[hollow gust]

you dont need to level every single useless skill

[zinc hornet]

fair enough

[zinc hornet]

i accidentally bought a slot lmao

a couple of very clumsy taps and not paying attention to prompts

[weary gust]

I was always able to maintain constant training and never run out of books, but that was with two slots. Three slots you definitely won't get enough red books to sustain.

[pseudo hearth]

Any of the ships from the first 3 PR groups worth getting late game? (The ones I already have from the first 3 are Monarch, Saint Louis, Seattle, FdG, Gascogne, & Mainz)

To add, I’ve got a few CBs already as well

[hollow gust]

All the CAs in PR1 are extremely strong

[pseudo hearth]

Is Roon really worth it thought beyond being a tank?

[zenith heron]

i think due to their augments, they could possibly beat Drake in terms of consistency

[hollow gust]

Considering her gun damage is above Drake , I would say so ; she only lacks durability

[dreamy blade]

champagne and odin for tech

[pseudo hearth]

Is Ibuki worth it if I don’t have many big torp boats (or at least not enough invested in)?

[hollow gust]

Shes like 2nd best torp boat

[dreamy blade]

S tier for opsi mobbing

[warm trail]

can i just scrap meta ships and child ships?/

[pseudo hearth]

I see, because my Unzen is kind of forever stuck not being MLB because she’s low on LB priority, and I don’t have Shima, so I honestly am lacking Torp boats

[pseudo hearth]

Meta ships don’t take up dock space

[warm trail]

ohhh

[pseudo hearth]

Can someone remind me, does IJN have a frontline XP grind increase ship? Like Houshou is for their backline?

I’m forgetting

[hollow gust]

no, and even if they do, why?

[pseudo hearth]

I like doing it just to make the grind faster

For PR xp

[pseudo hearth]

Found it. Forgot Yuubari has one

[hollow gust]

, still a waste of exp , there are more important tech

[sinful escarp]

even so, that is one less slot for more tech

after you get her to 120 that is

[hollow gust]

, you do you , exp buffs are generally just a waste of time

[pseudo hearth]

Eh, tbh, I’d rather get the PR grind out of the way so I can focus on doing tech grind. Also, my Yuubari isn’t 120 anyway.

[oak girder]

Event stages are open till when?

[pseudo hearth]

Till the event ends, 6/11

[opaque galleon]

What do you get when you combine two saratogas?

[sinful escarp]

sara2ga

[oak girder]

Who to mlb next? And who to pity?

[wind hazel]

lion, vanguard

[raw ravine]

is this good for lion? i've no idea what to buy from core shop

[inner delta]

minimal gain over white shell

sometime white shell is better

[hollow gust]

Just buy white

[raw ravine]

true that was why I was asking, at least white can be used with other ships

thanks guys! also any guns worth buying from core shop?

[craggy sorrel]

should i buy skin or dock?

[inner delta]

ofc dock

it's the better value for your gameplay experiences

[flint fiber]

Quick question I’m somewhat of a new player I’m on and off with this game and I was wondering what’s the best way to go through the campaign without to much trouble

[craggy sorrel]

but its a limited skin

[raw ravine]

for me I build a CV fleet to prepare for 12 and onwards, focus more on have 2 tanks and others dps. I just started out too!

[stark quiver]

buy and skin and you will feel the pain of always needing to retire ships after every run

[oak girder]

Me only buying dock space but still having to retire every run 💀

[normal cedar]

between georgia, monarch and champagne which is worth more? for actual use, not tech or tech points

[stark quiver]

monarch might be the best of the batch, but ehh, only for tech for all 3
good news is they all give good tech

[whole crypt]

it'll come back anyway but regardless the same issue still stands, you have to pick between gameplay QoL and cosmetics unless you put money into it

[whole crypt]

technically we're waiting on Monarch's augment which may be a sizable boost for her looking at existing PR1 augs, but that could also mean PR2 ones are on the horizon, and none of them are particularly impressive at this point

[stark quiver]

champ and georgia both have great obtain and 120 tech

[whole crypt]

yeh but tech is more of a long term goal since he's after actual use

[stark quiver]

i hope they arent

wait i ENd

[normal cedar]

ig ill go monarch first then, thx

[stark quiver]

she doesnt have her aug, and probably will be useless to you anyway, i recc getting georgia for her tech*

[sweet delta]

you recc getting georgia for w15?

[stark quiver]

what

[native robin]

what pr focus research has the most useful carriers?

[whole crypt]

7

[sweet delta]

carriers with an s

[lofty shadow]

Where can I farm gold?

[stark quiver]

d3 of event right now

[lofty shadow]

Can't do

[whole crypt]

was there even a series with more than one carrier

[stark quiver]

highest event stage you can do

[lofty shadow]

Ok

[stark quiver]

yea

[whole crypt]

you can tell I've already forgotten AvP

[stark quiver]

i dont even have her fs5

[strong tartan]

is there a way to disable this it keeps interrupting my auto

[stark quiver]

reduce tb guidence?

[strong tartan]

great

[native robin]

pr focus 7 it is then

[lofty shadow]

Oh guys big question

Is there an option to turn off the vibration?

Its really annoying when I get the yellow and ur ones

[stark quiver]

during a stage run or while doing pulls?

[lofty shadow]

Pulls

[sinful escarp]

there is an option to vibrate??
i never had that. so its probably notification, because i have all of them off

[stark quiver]

I guess this?

[fair lance]

Looks like it

[lofty shadow]

Thanks

[normal cedar]

if I wanna grind pr exp, but all my ships from that faction are 120, should I just use them?

[sinful escarp]

if you want that pr ship then yes

[whole crypt]

it's not like you have alternatives

[woven star]

Btw if you will be want Brest Champaign is a part of Iris Libre

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks
also from the following, which are worth 125? enty, franklin, saratoga, colorado, maryland
yes lol how did you know im talking about champagne & georgia

[woven star]

All except two last

[whole crypt]

Vichya ships should also work for her grind if you have any

[woven star]

And Sara will be last for 125 too

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't bother taking the 125s now if you don't have a lot of arrays

maybe Enty/Franklin for boss

[woven star]

If you want Brest - Saint Luis, Champaign-> Flandre -> Brest. Smth like this

[normal cedar]

i only have bearn, i have the tech points for brest but no vichya
ill run triple cv with those 3 then, thanks
i wont uncap them now, just grind exp with them so they accumulate enough for 125

[whole crypt]

there's no serious need for 125 until you set out for ch14 and maybe arb

[stone cradle]

dumb question but when do I use the twin 134 aa over the fuze timed one and vice versa?

[hollow gust]

Fuse trash

[stone cradle]

Gotcha thanks

[dusty terrace]

In a Kearsarge / Y2 OpSi fleet does Baltimore with augment bring more personal and / or team dps than Laffey II?

[hollow gust]

They do two different things , Baltimore is a glass cannon buffer. Laffey is a tank

[blissful berry]

Hi, my game is glitching, grafs eye ball is funny, and the game freezes when i try looking at the new character drop skins. How should i fix it?

[hard flicker]

Which Lion need some ship to get power fleet?

[dusty terrace]

I thought LII's AA and avi reduction indirectly buffed CV's damage, but either way they're both competing for the off tank slot in my fleet so Balti seems better for now

[hard flicker]

I have lion, so i need 1 fleet for her

[hollow gust]

She is op everywhere

[hard flicker]

Can play in ops m, fight boss

Or fleet with her faction

[sweet delta]

Lion Biszwei Alsace would be a main fleet for opsi

[hollow gust]

In that case Baltimore is better , although you should have better alternatives for her

[wind hazel]

what's the ranking for BB crossfleet barrage now?

[sweet delta]

The better alternatives are rainbow

And Sirius and Aurora

[hard flicker]

All ur in 1 fleet

[sweet delta]

Ask the purple sam heart

[wind hazel]

@vale spindle hello purple samheart, what's the ranking for BB crossfleet in term of damage?

[hard flicker]

What about gear for lion?

[wind hazel]

same as every other BB except musashi

[hard flicker]

Max reload and hit ?

[hollow gust]

It's more important to match depending on what else the fleet uses. White shell is perfectly fine, yellow is a flex thing

[hard flicker]

She dont need new ur gun?

[sweet delta]

according to my preliminary investigation, Lion crossfleet has the problem of being for 3 battles only

[wind hazel]

can use that instead of mk7

b-b-b-but opsi

[hard flicker]

[sweet delta]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[hollow gust]

Should give the new gun to the slowest ship

[hard flicker]

[vale spindle]

not including recent ships added past last guide update i think its the ones i listed there in the recommended section

[wind hazel]

when include recent ship?

[vale spindle]

soon tm i have exams

[wind hazel]

exams more important, all the best

[sweet delta]

Yes, your exam with Mogador us most important

Why bisz over Alsace though

[urban grail]

any recc for 15-4 auto fleets

[white agate]

i would suggest first to bring it to safe

[honest sequoia]

The guy above ur msg has it

[sleek spade]

what gun to use for Lion secondary? US dual 130mm?

[blissful berry]

hlp pls :( or where can i go?

[sleek spade]

probably go to settings and try "repair asset"

[eternal moth]

Should be triple 155 kai or quad 152

[sleek spade]

eh? quad 155? I've never seen that

[wind hazel]

152

[eternal moth]

Sorry, yeah, 152

[tender girder]

how does Lion compare to NJ, Biz Zwei?

[eternal moth]

Much better than NJ, I don't know how she compares to Bisco, whether she's slightly higher or lower.

[wind hazel]

strongest damage, but zwei has hole

that sounds wrong but it wasn't my intention

[tame orchid]

I got lion at 155 pulls, is it worth shelling out the other 45 for a pity 2nd

[wind hazel]

no

5 sure, but not 45

[blissful berry]

not working :(

[worn trail]

is taihou better than hwah jah for a boss team?

[wind hazel]

yes but that's a really really low bar to compare with

[worn trail]

okay, thank you

[wind hazel]

it's like saying your bicycle is faster than your younger sibling's toycar, and the rest above are cars

[worn trail]

[tame orchid]

Any idea who i should use bulins on? I have 13 UR bulins(11 from protocores) and I plan on getting 2nd trafalgar

[tranquil dagger]

gl with your exams man

[wind hazel]

lion, then either fritz or 52, get 2nd opinion between those 2

[tame orchid]

Aight got it thankee

[pastel condor]

Is lion worth pulling?

[tame orchid]

Whos the best ship for AA? is it still sandy?

[cobalt rapids]

@vale spindle why does it say increase shelling damage taken on musashi on /crossfleet ? its not an AB its IR

[heavy zealot]

Need suggestions on who to build

[cobalt rapids]

helena unicorn sandy should be lvled to 120 at least

[heavy zealot]

I fr gotta replace my non mlb UR. And the meta girl

[woven star]

It's not big deal. But I say Lion, z52 and then Fritz

[heavy zealot]

Kinda broke on gold ;-;

[woven star]

Cos nothing to pair with fritz except implacable

[cobalt rapids]

foch and all non mlb URs should be kicked out

and dont invest in that nj anymore

[heavy zealot]

Ye.... I guess i could keep new jersey tho? Does nice dmg...

[cobalt rapids]

indiana mlb would do more

[heavy zealot]

Oh......

[warm trail]

UR bulin income per month is? 2?

[heavy zealot]

Good info, i put nj gear into her?

[cobalt rapids]

2 from spec core/month + 1 from cruise / 2months + 1 per w.e UR event and rerun

[warm trail]

ih

[cobalt rapids]

thats fine

also show all ur UR but as far as i can tell you should be funneling them into lion

[heavy zealot]

Ye , my current plan, ahahah

[woven star]

Indiana barrage depends on a place. Other hand Lion don't so nothing bad happens with swap. But Indiana good only on paper

[heavy zealot]

Only 4 UR, i definitely thought i had more

[hallow mountain]

Based on my current dock, should I build Lion or Implacable first?

[cobalt rapids]

yea mlb lion
u can eventually use dupes from pity to mlb nj

[heavy zealot]

Lion feels weak.... Cuz no lb?

[cobalt rapids]

indiana barrage does not depends on flag if thats what u mean

[woven star]

Why don't use pity on Vanguard?

[heavy zealot]

What should i take from event shop

[hallow mountain]

Have you gotten Trafalgar?

[atomic abyss]

I'm fairly sure Indiana barrage works off flag...

[heavy zealot]

Not yet, too broke for that ;-;, i also kinda can't beat the sp stage

[cobalt rapids]

because with handbook invitation they only need 1 nj dupe to mlb her and use her

[hallow mountain]

Try to get her first, exchange the points for the tokens

[woven star]

It does. But OK if two ppls said no let it be. I last time check it it was. Maybe that was her skill

[heavy zealot]

Sooo, absolutely prio her? Before everything else in shop? ,hmmm imma go take some gold tho, so i can mlb indiana

[hallow mountain]

Yes

Don't tell me you've used up other points already
Cause you gonna have to farm D3 even more

Good luck bro

[fickle parcel]

Are the 2 strongest UR BBs right now Zweimark and Lion?

[atomic abyss]

For bossing yes

[fickle parcel]

tyty

[hallow mountain]

For mobbing there's Raffaello

If you have her that is

[atomic abyss]

Musashi as well...

[hallow mountain]

Both of them yes

[heavy zealot]

6hrs,,,, who could it be...?

[hallow mountain]

I got Rusiya from that I think

[wet badge]

Trafalgar or laf2

[heavy zealot]

I spent only like, 2.5k.... i gotta farm alot ;-;

[fickle parcel]

How's Nakhimov compared to the rest?

[heavy zealot]

Not lion ;-;?

[wet badge]

Alr got her

[hallow mountain]

I haven't checked yet but iirc Laf2 is still pretty busted. Dunno about Trafalgar because I haven't built her yet

[tame orchid]

Alr thanks

[wind hazel]

top3 CV

[fickle parcel]

tyty

[atomic abyss]

6:20 is lion so

[hallow mountain]

Speaking of which, Lion or Implacable?

[tame orchid]

I assume when bis zwei comes i should MLB her as well

[hallow mountain]

I'm only able to get 2 proto bulins from the shop

[solemn bluff]

how do i kill those escort ships easily so i 3 star the level those are the only thing not letting me 3 star

[hallow mountain]

What chapter are you on?

[atomic abyss]

Impla for sure

[solemn bluff]

im chapter 4 rn im doing the event to level up my second fleet

[atomic abyss]

That's what you shouldn't do

[heavy zealot]

Yey

[atomic abyss]

You're not at the point of building a second fleet yet
It'll take away resources that would go to your first

[hallow mountain]

Try to get more mats to level them up

Yeah ^

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

You may want to read this

[solemn bluff]

im ded

the recomended fleet is my second fleet rn im ded

[hallow mountain]

Do you have Unicorn leveled?

[normal cedar]

What sort of teams do you use for w11/12 hard? the trp requirements are high so my DDs die during boss since they can't tank
Im having trouble with 11-3 hard and above, which need you to have 4 dd in your 2 fleets

[solemn bluff]

nope thats why im using event to get event currencies and level up the second fleet

[hallow mountain]

I'm pretty sure you don't need that many DDs. What you do need is better equipment and them having MLB and higher levels iirc

[normal cedar]

I have them mlb, with gold torps and dual oxytorp aux at+6, still need to have 4 dd to get 1800+ trp...
two of those dds are 120 ,115 as well

[solemn bluff]

i mean i can send my fleet 1 and 2 just give me a few min to complete this stage

[hallow mountain]

Try enhancing first? Also I had my CV ships and their equipment upgraded too

[hallow mountain]

Send a screenshot of ur team then

I think someone else can help u with that

[normal cedar]

here

[tame jungle]

you're using lv70s in ch12-h, there's your issue mate

[normal cedar]

Problem is not with the mob(fleet 1) but with boss(fleet2)

Boss vanguard dies midway

[hallow mountain]

Your Ayanami isn't retrofitted

Also your Javelin
They're very good ships once you retrofitted them

[tame jungle]

i think "very good" is an overstatement but they should suffice

[hallow mountain]

Especially Ayanami. I still use her as my main DD while I build the UR DDs

[solemn bluff]

This are my current 2 fleets rn

[woven star]

Ig Traf not mlp. At this state she much weaker than ssr

[hallow mountain]

For their current dilemma, I meant.
They're very good for his problem

[normal cedar]

I'm about to finish their retro, but I think the tank problem wont really be solved with just that...

[elfin hollow]

Hey I've got loads of epic Bulins, should I LB epic ships orrrrr

[hallow mountain]

Finish their retro and make them lv100

Also their skills if you haven't yet

[wet badge]

Should i mlb bisz or implac ( i have lion, musashi, raffaelo, nj, fdg

Alr p stacked for bbs

[normal cedar]

any suggestions for cl tank in that comp? scylla cant tank much, neither can helena or cleveland

[hallow mountain]

Portland?

[normal cedar]

not a cl

[hallow mountain]

Oh sorry lmao I misread

[wet badge]

My rainbow carriers are hak, amagi, yk2 and fritz

[woven star]

You can press adjust and swap

[hallow mountain]

Do you have San Diego?

[normal cedar]

wouldnt a dd be worse at tanking than cl...
I dont have sandy unfortunately

[tame jungle]

you guys are missing the forest for the trees here

not if you're using a good DD

[hallow mountain]

Montpelier, Noshiro, Dudo, Aurora should be ok

[tame jungle]

aurora doesn't tank shit

[hallow mountain]

I think W11 has DD bosses, no?

[oblique notch]

I’m jealous, I wish I could have 2 fleets when I can barely make a single good one

[tame jungle]

doesn't matter if your vanguard fucking dies?

[hallow mountain]

But yeah she sucks at tank

[woven star]

Everything depends on dock. I said Agir instead of Traf. But if you have it

Agir CA trp so

[tame jungle]

bagura do u have like a thread open

where i can see your ships

[sand shoal]

Is full Ironblood and Sakura fleet only still a thing or outdated and Mix Faction ships for specific purpose the current meta?

[fickle hollow]

If i dump a +13 gold gun how many gold plates will i get back?

[normal cedar]

ohh I see
I do https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1374755216242507887

[woven star]

And btw fleet 1 for boss. Fleet 2 for mobs. Scylla CL and good vs mobs. And fleet 1 more versatile

[tame jungle]

i'll check

[solemn bluff]

how can i level up fleet 2 fast aside dorm

[fickle hollow]

does anyone know?

[unkempt mortar]

ok which augment is best for lion

sword or bow

[crimson glacier]

isnt it the same for all BBs

[unkempt mortar]

well im asking just in case

[crimson glacier]

bow if heavy armor sword if not

[sterile jolt]

You can see by yourself...

[blissful hamlet]

Any final evaluation for Trafalgar?

[honest sequoia]

Maybe pray that sushi will drop a video on it

[blissful hamlet]

Gph recommending youtuber

[lofty shadow]

How do I get her?

She looks hot

[hushed dawn]

What's the best DD gun and auxes for Trafalgar?

[limpid dock]

Hi, I have a question. Who should I prioritize for MLB?

[reef flume]

Lion

[reef flume]

She was available during 2024 Tempesta event. If they do the same thing they did then, you can get her in October 2025 likely

[limpid dock]

Thanks

[lofty shadow]

Seggs perfect

Thanks

[reef flume]

Yw

[warm trail]

Is neptune good?

[tame jungle]

assuming you mean the HMS CL, sure

[hushed dawn]

Follow up.

[cobalt rapids]

blue 76/ single 113( for rich ppl who minmax) and typical dd auxes like double toolkit+ when u need survability

[floral moss]

is there any way i can delete oil? i am stuck at 25k for a long time now and cant collect anything because everything wants me to spend oil first

[woven star]

Event Rose D3 map

[whole crypt]

grind harder, if you can't grind fast enough buy curry in dorm

[floral moss]

urr i dont play anymore really just checking in from time to time

the problem occures because i am an inactive player

[mossy stratus]

Guys help me decide lmao, im very short of cubes and im already at 100 pulls, should i buy trade license or the battle pass?

[floral moss]

so there is no "quick battle" as in daily raids where i can burn oil instantly?

[tame jungle]

no

[wind hazel]

read what nnt wrote to you

[floral moss]

i did but i said i mean i wanted skippable fights

[wind hazel]

those dont use oil....

[floral moss]

oh wait

[floral moss]

curry is good thank you

[cunning bison]

better yet, 1200 oil to burn on commision - recommend -> send -> quit repeat

very fast but u gain nothing in return

on a seperate note
if i have a boss fleet main: lion - vanguard - alsace
vanguard: plymouth - trafalgar - ?
what should i put in ?: (No mogador)

[sharp echo]

i already got all the new ship
is there ship that must have in wish pull?

[whole crypt]

52 Unzen Agir Hindenburg

[atomic abyss]

Helena as the generic pick
You can opt for aurora if you're fighting CL/DD

[cunning bison]

no guam/laffey ii?

[whole crypt]

better for CV fleet but sure

[cunning bison]

ohh ok ty (which one would be better?)

[atomic abyss]

Guam cost of armour break

[zenith heron]

if you don't have an Aquila, there you go.. if not, the peeps might suggest some

[cunning bison]

ty

[atomic abyss]

Firstly
Check pins for WW recommendations
Secondly if you're low on cubes I'd just do light WW

[sharp echo]

ty

[atomic abyss]

As in, 1 light a day

Prolly for aurora

[turbid dawn]

What are the ffects for the harbiter this month? Because for me it's bugged and it won't show

[sharp comet]

is the second batch of skins dropping thursday?

[wary skiff]

Is Helena not good in cv comps due to eventual timing mismatch or is she still worth it for the first couple syncs?

[forest palm]

you can certainly make Helena work in CV comps

[zenith heron]

she really is a good buffer, the only thing you should manage/hope is just her RNG Buff proc, other than that, she does not have any problems

[worldly pewter]

u need to invest into some rld
especially for the 2 airstrikes

[wary skiff]

Even with my current best loadout for nakhi? 24.43s launch so she gets the first and tail end of second, misses third.

[wary skiff]

Autoloaders?

[worldly pewter]

rld tech

[wary skiff]

oh 🫠

[zenith heron]

you probably need some Purple CV Radar (purple homing Beacon) for that timing, faster but optimal planes, or just plain old RLD tech management

[wary skiff]

Why purple over yellow radar? And yes, I think I might swap in some ryuseis once I get some gearlab mats. I’m still awhile away from farming reload tech only since im working on general fleet tech points rn to unlock ships in research lab

[sharp comet]

u can also use yellow

[zenith heron]

I meant the Purple Homing Beacon, mb

[upper jay]

Is it possible to do 7-2 with low cost?

Tried everything I can

[worldly pewter]

both the the eu and rn give a lot of cv reload when they reach lvl 7 so try to aim for that first

[upper jay]

Always dies on boss

[wary skiff]

May be a bit away from that

[worldly pewter]

try to aim for 5 then after that 7

[wind hazel]

what is this for

[sterile jolt]

You can put smth like that

[ornate narwhal]

Should I use all my cubes when I get them on lion or should I do my daily pulls and wait till the end of the banner?

[wind hazel]

1 Light daily

[wary skiff]

Ty

[wind hazel]

do it in Wishing Well if you selected Light on it

[brave trail]

how many points are we aiming for this event? 55k for the gold parts?

[wary skiff]

Wait so if I pick two submarines for wishing well, and pull on light I can get a sub I chose ?

[atomic abyss]

No

[wind hazel]

no, if you picked special then dont build in wishing well lol

[sterile jolt]

55k is a standard for every event like that

[wary skiff]

Oh I reread what u wrote

[ornate narwhal]

I meant for UR banner

[brave trail]

thanks

[sterile jolt]

Do more is not worth imo

[wind hazel]

yes, once you got Lion already, dont pour anymore cubes onto event banner

[viral vortex]

how do you get sakura tech points? I wanted to unlock sakura research ships...
the green ones are farmable, blue ones are guild shop, red also farmable but they are SR(Gold)
rest are gacha only/event limited/expensive(core shop or medal shop)

No where enough to unlock even pr sakura ships let alone dr the other factions like uss/hms have far more farmable/guild shop

[wind hazel]

a lot of these can be purchased from medal shop

well ok i missed you mentioning that lolol

but yeah a lot of these can be gotten from shops in general, it's more than enough

[atomic abyss]

Hint

[wind hazel]

farm what's farmable, buy what you can purchase, unlock more via research

[atomic abyss]

Unlock the earlier Sakura research ships

Those tend to give a fair bit of tech to begin with

And ibuki is still very useful for a veteran in terms of opsi

[viral vortex]

i didn't notice that, got it, ty

[wary skiff]

I think 90% of my Sakura points was buying them all from the guild shop and spending 30 purple bulins on them. Had them since I started lol

[willow crag]

Can someone tell me how you unlock this level?

[forest palm]

did you do Ch 5?

[willow crag]

dunno, prolly not

[forest palm]

then do Ch 5 cause that's how you access the center

[willow crag]

how do I do Ch 5 first?

[forest palm]

go look at your info tab

[wary skiff]

Doesn’t it tell u how

[boreal wagon]

follow the missions you have, you should have some red markers on the map as well

[willow crag]

ah found it

Ill just do it next month

[wind hazel]

why not now

[craggy sorrel]

shinano good for mob or boss?

[woven star]

Btw is 55k enough for this event? 2k meta depends on luck for mlb; 10k gun; 45k another copy Traf (really depends on progression); 5k cogs; 10k prints. Real number will be higher

[kindred arrow]

Where are you getting 45k for 2nd Traf? You only need to buy 65 vouchers to get both if you do the dailies

[woven star]

300. I have 75 now

1 for 150 per event coin

[exotic wren]

There's what, almost 2 more weeks for dailies

[kindred arrow]

Yep it gives us 435 free vouchers total with dailies and challenges

[woven star]

OK. Will check tomorrow. Didn't noticed how many get today

[kindred arrow]

In total it would be 9750 event points you need to buy

Assuming you did all days + the daily run of SP

[lofty zodiac]

• the mini game 7 days

[kindred arrow]

I believe those aren't daily, you can do the minigame 7 times on the same day and it'll give you the vouchers all the same (I think, not sure)

[wind hazel]

we're proooooobably getting less than 435 free vouchers, jp patchnote says we only get 14days of daily bonus

[woven star]

I don't remember that I got tickets for mini game today.

[wind hazel]

but we can still farm for more if it's really only 14days

[boreal wagon]

it was daily but days are awarded retroactively, so if you only started today you can do it 7 times

[verbal thistle]

Is the 2nd copy of Trafalgar worth it over the blueprints?

[wind hazel]

ye

[verbal thistle]

Hm, okay. Thank you

[wind hazel]

farm both, easy

[woven star]

Ur bulins not cheap and locked amount for month. So yeah

[kindred arrow]

That would be 395 then if we don't get that last week
Did the patchnotes say anything about the SP run?

[wind hazel]

i dont remember

[woven star]

I think I got 15 for SP today. But nothing from minigame. Not sure

[wind hazel]

nvm they changed it again last night lol

i guess we just have to find out the actual way

[kindred arrow]

15750 points without the last week, + unclaimed days if any
Cheaper than a rainburin still

[pseudo hearth]

How would you guys rank the value between all of the PR7 ships?

[kindred arrow]

Nahk>>> Napoli
For the golds Bayard>Daisen>> Halford
Just imo, Napoli is great but she has a lot of competition on the role of tanky tank, Nahkimov is much more impactful

[hollow gust]

None of the PRs this year are that good

[uncut adder]

Need help for Call to Arms event. Who are Phase 1 ships? I got points somehow, but I have no ideas from who.

[tame jungle]

subs?

perhaps an extra mob fight that blocked the boss?

[native robin]

submarines don't get calculated in the oil cost?

[tame jungle]

yes

[native robin]

makes sense

[native robin]

I see, that's why a lot of oil was gone without my knowledge

Thanks

[still merlin]

Is there any big dif between the jersey 406 and the new Brit 406?

[atomic abyss]

the new brit 406 is just better
not HUGELY better, but yeah

[whole crypt]

what 120tech is Traf

[eternal basalt]

Phase 1 is over

[atomic abyss]

hit (lol)

[whole crypt]

[atomic abyss]

fleet tech in this event is ass