gameplay-help

[frosty slate]

Is there a good comp against Jintsuu Meta?

[little tree]

Cheeky has one

[eternal basalt]

5 x 3 so 15 and that's 12-4, it's 900 for me, 3 runs

[viscid swift]

well what do you have

[soft raft]

kinda
namely selector boxes that let you choose what resource you want to redeem from it

[sweet delta]

According to Reddit, c4 hidden zones are garbage

[barren barn]

Why do i have to scan zone?

[sweet delta]

Do everything , all special red/yellow/green icons, the center boss, all hurricane strongholds, all explorable dark blue zones

[sweet delta]

Use it from your storage

[soft raft]

have you actually gone into your inventory and used the item yet?

[barren barn]

Ah no

[frosty slate]

I'm running this one on Hornet Meta and get to a million dmg consistently, so two shots... wish I could do Jintsuu in one

[viscid swift]

just so you know Laffey 2 isn't really doing anything there

so you have Kearsarge, Yorktown 2, Aurora, Eldridge, and Plymouth

also how many HVARs

[frosty slate]

Eldridge retro and Aurora not at max level... the others yeah, I do have them at max everything.

What's an HVAR?

[stark quiver]

/wiki hvar hellcat

[viscid swift]

HVAR Hellcat

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[bold surge]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_F6F_Hellcat_(HVAR-Mounted)

[frosty slate]

4 of those!

[ebon topaz]

How to get sp stages for event

[tame jungle]

clear D3

[eternal basalt]

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[viscid swift]

Kearsarge, Yorktown 2, Fritz Rumey, Eldridge, Aurora, Plymouth then

[ebon topaz]

😭

[frosty slate]

Is there a good replacement for Eldridge and Aurora?

[sweet delta]

Soyuz nakhimov lion

[ebon topaz]

Im cooked then i aint getting tarfalgar 😭

[viscid swift]

not really

[viscid swift]

no you're lamo

[tame jungle]

you still got a bunch of time left to farm points for trafalgar bruh

[sweet delta]

Just farm more? Or play more minigames?

[stark quiver]

theres no direct replacement for eld

[viscid swift]

you still have more than 2 weeks of dailies, that's 5 vouchers a day

[frosty slate]

Guess it's time to get working on Eld

[stark quiver]

do you have her retro item

[sweet delta]

Just have to remember to do them, because they don't show up under the daily filter

[bleak nymph]

Retrofit item was limited, if you dont have it no point

[eternal basalt]

UR Voucher Acquisition
Event Daily Missions - 5 vouchers/day (23 days, so 115 vouchers/event),
Event Minigame Rewards - 105 vouchers/event
Just do these 2, easy 200

[frosty slate]

I must retro, I do have the item luckily

[rigid onyx]

literally like 105 free points from the minigame, 5 from mission/day, 5 from sp/day

you dont even need to use any of the normal event points for copy #1

[eternal basalt]

"Event Mission "Clear D3 with a new Event Ship" - 10 vouchers/ship (5 ships, so 50 vouchers/event)"
B3/D3. B3 counts too.

[ebon topaz]

:>

[ocean trout]

where do u get this weapon from? i only have 1 copy of it

[rigid onyx]

mog/als event

[ocean trout]

how many off these u can have?

[rigid onyx]

1

[tame jungle]

1 right now

[eternal basalt]

2nd in 2026 where bisII runs now

[barren barn]

Do i have to click this everytime

[rigid onyx]

click what

[tame jungle]

click what

[ebon topaz]

Does it matter how high of a score u get in minigame

[tame jungle]

it doesn't

[ocean trout]

ok then who do i equip it for? this is for opsi btw ,someone is kind enough to help me

[rigid onyx]

i enter and insta leave

[ebon topaz]

:D

[rigid onyx]

turn on reduced tb guidance

[tame jungle]

go to settings and look for "reduce tb guidance"

[barren barn]

Ty

[ebon topaz]

…. I thought i had to die to get the reward 😭

[rigid onyx]

for opsi you can swap between fights

[ocean trout]

what if i dont? like for who its more important, and what would be a good substitute

[tame jungle]

don't be stupid

[rigid onyx]

ig sirius would do more but both of them do trivially little gun damage tbh that it wouldnt matter

[eternal basalt]

(Every minigame outside arcade works like that btw)

[tame jungle]

just take the little bit of time required to swap your gear

[stark quiver]

its the same for all minigames, you just have to enter it and then it counts

[ebon topaz]

😭

[ocean trout]

ok so its unimportant?

[paper walrus]

at what dev lvl does plymouth become usable? I have 188 blueprints + 150 from catch up. Is there a point in leveling her up rn

[rigid onyx]

you either care enough to swap or you dont care enough and neither really does enough for it to matter

[tame jungle]

dev30 for damage dev25 for not dying

[ocean trout]

what do i equip helena now?

i can also craft , just no gearlab

[paper walrus]

what does main gun base+1 do

[sweet delta]

135mm but why did you craft 3 of them and not even use them

[ocean trout]

no idea. thank you

[stark quiver]

you get 1 more main gun
pew pew, becomes pew pew pew

[sweet delta]

Main gun shoots an extra time for every reload

[paper walrus]

🙏

[ocean trout]

since we already on this topic i need substitutes for beaver and eaglue uni.

is there anything?

[eternal basalt]

Don't replace eagle unit

[sweet delta]

Would recommend getting them, they're good

[ocean trout]

my pvp unit have them equipped

[tame jungle]

then swap them over

[sweet delta]

Hard arbiter isnt the place to gimp your gear because you don't want to move things. But it looks like you have a bunch of rainbow ships so maybe it'll be fine with
Manjuu -> rudder
Beaver -> anything with eva

[ocean trout]

not rly an option for me ngl.
even if the substitutes are bad, i will take it. im rly bad at it. i forget things often and it streses me out and i just started my opsi journey soley for pvp.

[eternal basalt]

Already have EVA on Agir there, I would say repair toolkit

2 rudders? Really?

[ivory pawn]

Yes. Aegir already has massive HP, but little EVA.

[ocean trout]

is sg radar best for eva?

[paper walrus]

at what level does enhance limit stop increasing?

[deep solstice]

Which ur should I mlb? I have enough protocols to buy 8 more bulins plus the two bulins I have in the image sitting in dock

I forgot but I can also pick up nj from the rookie mansion reward

[sweet delta]

Oh you have VH plate, then use it on Guam and take Guam's cosmic kicks for aegir. Alternatively, if you have sneaky stealthy prowler from the TLR collab last year, put it on aegir

[sweet delta]

Ship level 100

[ocean trout]

anything thats not gear lab, i have, everything thats not from opsi or. story ch 13+ i should own

[sweet delta]

maybe you keep the sneaky on your pvp fleet

[ocean trout]

it not equiipped yet ( eldrige equipment for pvp started my opsi journey btw i have nothing for her and all her gear is gear lab aka opsi)

[bleak nymph]

breh i keep clicking minigame in the banner and it doesn't load anything

[deep solstice]

@paper walrus could u elaborate on the footprint emoji?

[soft raft]

it's the topmost minigame in the resert thingy

[stark quiver]

lion because you lack UR bbs

[sweet delta]

Show all of your URs, is that all of them?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[stark quiver]

[deep solstice]

I do have mushashi, shinano, and amagi cv but they r all mlb’d already

And rafaello too

[bleak nymph]

... I can't believe i missed 5 days of 15 tokens for no reason

[paper walrus]

it was about the akashi questline actually 😭

[soft raft]

eh you didnt really "Miss" it
you can still get them right now

[stark quiver]

[ocean trout]

how does rudder look like? is it purple gear? whats its name

[ocean trout]

oh dishwasher

[sweet delta]

Clothes washer

[ocean trout]

thats what people used to call it. i guess a new term fo it huh

[zenith pebble]

would 12-4 give me more coin per oil or would d3?

[sweet delta]

Max Lion and Z52 now, then you should have enough or almost emough for Bismarck zwei when she reruns

[ocean trout]

wait.. i cant use 2 dishwashers..

. how do i replace it

[zenith pebble]

you know what month she reruns?

[sweet delta]

in your picture you had sg radar, not rudder

[ocean trout]

oh ok sry im confuing myself

[serene moth]

Who should i do next? I can get a total of 11 bulins if i expend all of my cores

[viscid swift]

Lion for certain
what other URs do you have

[viscid swift]

Lion

[sweet delta]

Read more cheeky

[serene moth]

who should i do after lion?

[sweet delta]

No implacable?

[viscid swift]

depends on what you want to do, got any plans to do W15 anytime soon

[zenith pebble]

guam or laf2?

[deep solstice]

The only non mlb’d ones are all in that image so vanguard, lion, z52, fritz, and yorktown2

[ocean trout]

i need an alternaive for guam dd wpn...

[upbeat wagon]

Is plymouth tanky? How tanky is she compared to anchorage and agir? And how does agir and anchorage tankiness compare to eachother?

[viscid swift]

I mean the MLb ones as well

[sweet delta]

Cheeky, read down

[serene moth]

i have not yet beaten w13 yet but ye im thinking of also trying 14 and 15

[serene moth]

those that i posted are all i have

[deep solstice]

Rafaello, mushashi, shinano, amagi cv, and implacable. I can also pick up nj from the newbie mission. And currently going for Kronshtadt in wishing well

[viscid swift]

next would be one of Trafalgar, Laffey 2 and Guam then

[zenith pebble]

what makes trafalgar good?

[serene moth]

i guess i wait for my second copy for traf then right

[deep solstice]

And I need to pick up trafalgar too

[viscid swift]

I'd go Z52

[viscid swift]

good AA, eva debuff for enemies, decently tanky

[zenith pebble]

thx

[fluid brook]

Musashi

[sweet delta]

[ocean trout]

unzen: i cant find this torpedo, where do u get this?
guam : i cant craft it from gear lab. whats an alternative?

[sweet delta]

It was available in two events so far.
B13 twin 130

[ocean trout]

im just blind af. sry today was a hard day

but i still need a guam dd alternative

[atomic abyss]

he alr said twin 130

[ocean trout]

... im rly stupid today. sry

[undone plover]

Not another plymouth tanky discussion

She is relatively tanky for a mainly dps ship
She is definitely less tanky than agir and anchorage
Those 2 are actual hard content tanks

Plymouth can main tank certain meta bosses and abyssals
She cant main tank all the bosses tho

Agir and anchorage are pretty close but anchorage has a gimmick with her skill that makes her tankiness a bit rng since she can dodge everything when her smoke screen procs
Agir’s heavy armor is a detriment in later campaign stages

Overall agir = anchorage except for ch14-ch15 where anchorage is a better tank I think

[upbeat wagon]

ty

[drowsy warren]

Hi, first time here on the discord, can someone help me find a guide for world 15? I have been thinking about doing it, I'm a lv 134 commander and have almost every research ship at maximum (except season 7 URs).

[atomic abyss]

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[atomic abyss]

@drowsy warrencan refer to the second guide

[drowsy warren]

oh thanks!

[ocean trout]

is there any new to farm coins quick, or is 12-4 still the best way?

[ivory pawn]

12-4 is still the best.

[atomic abyss]

12-4 the best outside events

[ocean trout]

is current event better than 12-4? that would be amazing

[atomic abyss]

lol no

its just that you need the well, event currency

[sweet delta]

event maps are only good for their event points

[ocean trout]

i had hopes tha maybe that is good. well 12-4 it is then

[sweet delta]

maybe D3 + buy coins from the event shop beats 12-4, but that's limited

using the winged lions for coins is a scam and only done at the end if you can't get another Trafalgar

[ocean trout]

i see. is there any new feature that auto sells units perhaps?
i only have 8 dockspace free currently and before i spend gems ( i still need to buy all skins and calculate how many gems i need)

anyelse my 12-4 farm is gonna be very painful LOL

[undone plover]

if u have the guild tech maxed and cant buy dock space soon just retire some easily reaquirable ships

f2p gems should go into dock space so maybe see if u have got all the f2p gems
like memento and 3 star missions

[ocean trout]

im a whale, so its fine i guess. i just buy dockspace :/

[fierce lantern]

Is new meta worth in the event shop

[undone plover]

always get event exclusive stuff
but yeah she is decent
and she is good tech

she drops from gacha and D3/SP maps
so dont buy her yet
wait till last few days and if she doesnt then buy her from shop

[spark hazel]

how to know if a ship should be in the mob or boss fleet

[undone plover]

usually from their skills and sometimes barrages
but better to just ask tbh

[strong tartan]

do you have a specific ship you wanna ask about

[spark hazel]

sandy

and lion and helena

[strong tartan]

sandy can do fine in both mob and boss for plane heavy content

lion I think can do fine in mob?

helena for boss mostly cause of her debuff

[drowsy warren]

Hey, is Raffaelo a good UR? Also for the guild boss thingy, is there a good comp to use?

[strong tartan]

she's great

good mobber but tbf her skills still kinda confuse me

[spark hazel]

thanks so much, do you know where i can maybe find fleet guides?

[strong tartan]

someone here has a link to a guide but I don't have it with me right now

[spark hazel]

that’s unfortunate

[kind slate]

is it fine to put everything in for lion? whose upcoming?

[slow barn]

Someone can help me create fleets for beat w15?

[atomic abyss]

next UR due for rerun is bismarck 2

[kind slate]

so i can spend everything if i already got her?

[atomic abyss]

spend until you get lion

[atomic abyss]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/

refer to this

[kind slate]

nice thnx.

[atomic abyss]

typical anti heavy boss comp with subs

[slow barn]

I already read this. But i don't have this units

[atomic abyss]

who are you missing

[kind slate]

btw can i get 25 pulls worth of cubes before event end?

[atomic abyss]

uhh, maybe

[slow barn]

Guam, laffey II, eldrige retrofit, alsace

[stark quiver]

unfortunate, make thread and send dock

[ivory pawn]

Like 2 weeks left, you get 2.5 pulls a day just from dailies. Easy.

[kind slate]

thas reassuring thnx

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[errant fog]

2nd fleet is AP fleet, 3rd fleet is heavy cv fleet and 4th is light cv fleet. Is there anyone I can replace for better newer ships (not including the one just released) like like Raffaello or fritz or nahkimov?

Also I would've put eldridge UR on z52's place but i missed her event for the retro item lol

[sweet delta]

have you soyuz nakhimov?

[atomic abyss]

do you have a mlb soyuz and dev 30 nakhimov?

also no, rafaello is irrelevant for bossing

[errant fog]

nakhimov at dev 28

and i do have maxed soyuz. who should I replaced for those 2?

[atomic abyss]

since you dont have eld, replace haku with implacable

when nakhi is dev 30 and rumey is mlb
you can go soyuz nakhi fritz

[errant fog]

my fritz is also maxed

[atomic abyss]

so we wait till nakhi is redy

[errant fog]

is this for heavy or light cv fleet?

[atomic abyss]

med mainly

BBs can handle med and light

soyuz can handle med and light too

[pseudo hearth]

Anyone know where the Google doc is that has all the ranked damage calculations and stuff for each ship?

[cobalt rapids]

/tierlist suchi's

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[errant fog]

oh wait so out of the 2 cv fleet which should I change again?

[atomic abyss]

kear comp

[errant fog]

oke 🙂

[errant fog]

Also is raffaelo a good mobber then? its mommy fdg uni and indept

[magic locust]

Is this worth?

I haven't gotten any ur pr gear besides nakhimov planes

[atomic abyss]

worse than musashi for mobbing hard content, but yes

/kick 1376290500042031206

[odd root]

if8f8ejj4#0 got kicked.

[hollow gust]

That's debatable, each allow different setups

[viscid swift]

get a Tenrai first

right, Imma headout now

[hybrid pelican]

what is that +1 salvo capacity of Lion?

[viscid swift]

it means that unlike most other BBs, when she loads a salvo, her next salvo starts loading immediately

[undone plover]

and she can hold 2 salvos if u manual and dont fire the first one immediately

[silk helm]

whats raffaelos set up?

[eternal basalt]

Doesn't mean anything in auto, can be useful in manual (or when blinded I suppose)

[cobalt rapids]

it does mean something in auto

and that is abs cd

[silk helm]

we need a c1 fast tier list fr

[cobalt rapids]

c1 as in opsi ?

[eternal basalt]

There are only 2 c1 zoones sooooo

[silk helm]

yuh

[cobalt rapids]

some1 link that cn comp

[silk helm]

HAHA i saw that, crazy

[undone plover]

i already did it for him the other day

[viscid swift]

just use it to grind XP smh

[worldly pewter]

isn't the c5 one the fastest ?

[silk helm]

c1 for ap 🫡

[undone plover]

i am actually curious if it matters in practice
most of the time is spent in loading and the fleet moving on the map anyway
i guess 15 seconds saved per fight is not bad and adds up

[eternal basalt]

He just want fast fires like Aquilla or Perseus

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message
this is the c5

[silk helm]

def does not matter LOL

[zenith pebble]

would lion be a boss?

[undone plover]

she works in boss and mob

[stark quiver]

lion is the ex boss yes

[cobalt rapids]

she looks like a mob boss

[silk helm]

do you guys ahve a comp that can clear any normal arbiter? or do you build something each month

[cobalt rapids]

i build something each month

[stark quiver]

i wait until max adapt and then swap gears on my pvp fleet

[sweet delta]

i use 3 fleets on normal arbiter

[zenith pebble]

how would yall build lion as a boss fleet in w15?

i just wanna be a few steps ahead is all

[stark quiver]

which boss, and how many fights is she doing

[cobalt rapids]

she works with any1 so the same way u would build any other boss fleet for w15

[hybrid pelican]

what does it mean in auto?

[undone plover]

~~link to my old thread ~~

[viscid swift]

it means in practice she's relatively faster to reload than her reload stat might suggest, particularly in a fleet with multiple BBs with similar reload times

[cobalt rapids]

it means that unlike the storage 1 BBs when she gets jammed while the salvoing plays her reload will keep going so she isnt pushed that far (she will be pushed again when the salvo happens again )
it also means that if u try to block her with table shenanigans you will have to account for this

[upper vine]

when will alsace rerun will we know

[undone plover]

to give an example
with normal BB if gun cooldown is 23 they will fire at 23 > 46.2 (0.2 added cuz of abs cooldown)
with lion she fires at 23 > 46.05 or sth like that
the absolute cooldown that gets added with each salvo is less
I hope this is right

[undone plover]

between may-september 2026*

[upper vine]

thnx

did she alrdy run this yr or smth?

[undone plover]

she released in may 2024
usually they rerun in 2 years after initial release

[upper vine]

ah

[slender turtle]

when is the next time i can flasher for the sub fleet? have archer and albacore, but realized i dont have flasher

[stark quiver]

when guam event reruns

[tame jungle]

flasher was guam event, so roughly 2 years and a bit after the initial run

so probably somewhere in the first couple of months of 2026

[cobalt rapids]

here is another example
notice how bismarck with table blocks vanny permanently behind her even tho she is faster than lion
thats because of lion reloading while being jammed by the other bbs and eventually overtaking them because the reload diff is not small enough
so while vanny needs to by pass the 1.25s jam to overtake a bb in reload
lion can just do it with even 0.03s difference (albeit in a long time)

[humble vine]

Should I spent 140 cubes to fully limit break Lion or should I save for Bismarck II rerun? (I have 320 cubes right now)

[stark quiver]

dont pull for dupes

[tame jungle]

pulling for dupes is bait

[eternal basalt]

Save

[eternal basalt]

January 2026

[humble vine]

Ok thanks

[eternal basalt]

When we get BisII this year + 1 year

[keen owl]

How do i get more of these?

The gold one

[hollow gust]

Should've grinded it during event

[eternal basalt]

wait till October

[keen owl]

Sadge

I thought the small is the same

They are different kinds of old canon

[eternal basalt]

You can only equip one per ship, got 3 ships?

[warped acorn]

this good?

[slow fox]

-# MOUNTAIN MENTIONED

[forest palm]

even if Mountain were desired the talents are all over the place

[ivory pawn]

Helmsman is unfortunate.

[forest palm]

wouldn't really bother starting an Oscar w/o Soulful or Flame

even then Cats are a headache an take a while to get good ones

[white agate]

do saratoga balls not combine in the minigame?

[stark quiver]

no

[sweet delta]

saratoga is the biggest ship

[vale oasis]

The fleet composition Im trying to use for the SP stage, its mostly a recommended setup with some modification though

[sweet delta]

who recommended this

[vale oasis]

Advice button

[slow fox]

-# Rare nevada marraige

[vale oasis]

I'm leveling up Kronshtadt and Lion, when they're good enough I'll swap them in for Reno and Tirpitz respectively, then move Algerie to Fleet 2 and have Kronshtdat in her place

[soft raft]

After tomorrow there's no more of those voucher thingies from here right
trying to calculate how much I need to grind to get the Traf dupe

[ivory pawn]

Correct.

[swift hornet]

returning player here, why does some of the ships' morale not go back to 150

[atomic abyss]

they dont restore above 120 outside dorm (or event limited onsen)

[noble fjord]

anyone have any tips of what to do other than story

[stark quiver]

event stages right now

[vernal flume]

Would like formation suggestions

[bleak nymph]

Is the new meta ship any good? The event one

[viscid swift]

kinda???

[sweet delta]

she is interesting to say the least. But worse than Franklin and Enterprise generally

[stark quiver]

hmm new best one strike bote?

[forest palm]

[twilit sage]

i got a question, with tech points buff recieved from leveling up the tech technology, is it only applied to the same faction of ships like Trp +1 from Sakura Empire only aplied to Sakura Ships

[spark hazel]

TYY

[forest palm]

Fleet Tech is applied to the given Hull Type, not the ship's Factiom

[cloud fractal]

That was unintentional. My bad.

[twilit sage]

Im asking about the bonus you got from Leveling up faction Tech level, same thing applied?

[cloud fractal]

I’m discovering I can’t read. Trying to unlock Brest and the 2.4m CDC is vanguard and I’m rocking Alsace. I have Mog for Vanguard, anyone else good in VD and Iris that I can stack to speed through this?

[viscid swift]

just use any ships that meet the requirements that need levels, preferably ones that give good tech

grinding in W12 and the event ain't difficult

[atomic abyss]

Saint Louis in PR1 is notable and very easy to grind for, so a lot of people have her
Other notable options include her sister, Brennus who is also from Alsace event
And Jeanne D'arc who can be obtained in war archives for skybound oratorio

Saint Louis and Brennus even have the extremely rare but extremely coveted CA/B Eva+1 tech at level 120

[opaque gate]

what to prioritize on research now?

[wind hazel]

pr7 is good

[zenith pebble]

Which one of these would make a good tank? Im pr farming rn

[wind hazel]

chikuma i guess

[whole crypt]

Chikuma probably least worst of the lot

[zenith pebble]

I can get ibuki soon

But i feel like shed be off tank

[wind hazel]

yes, and getting ibuki isn't gonna solve the issue when she comes at dev1

just cope with Takao tank and farm at somewhere easy

[normal cedar]

55k points are enough for this event?

[sharp socket]

depends on your goals, if you want truffles dupe and whatever else you usually get in shop then probably have to farm more

[forest palm]

Ya that'd be enough in terms of useful resources from the milestones

[wind hazel]

better farm more to make sure you can buy 2nd traf

i've heard of conflicting source that says the daily bonus stop after 14 days, jp patchnote seem to say so as well

[forest palm]

Well one way to find out, I guess

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 i guess can still farm after that, another week extra

[forest palm]

I feel like coasting with dailies would work out

[zenith pebble]

Can i farm around w10-12?

[forest palm]

12-1 easily

[fluid umbra]

What does trafalgar do?

Not sure what to do with her

[zenith pebble]

And then atago can be off tank?

[wind hazel]

i'd just use the ayanami and kazagumo you got there

unless you wanna 2fleet it up

quite expensive investment just for pr grind tho lol, just stick to 1 fleet

[zenith pebble]

Oh okie i can do that

New ur dd i can use as boss for late game too?

[opaque gate]

what is its armor?

[stark quiver]

heavy

[opaque gate]

thanks!

[wind hazel]

probably gonna see more use in opsi and meta

[opaque gate]

why is additional dock slot from guild not working?

[rigid onyx]

does the event last 14 or 21 days again

[wind hazel]

23 days

[meager tiger]

what is mogador good for?

[zenith pebble]

Thx

[wind hazel]

damage, buffing torpedo

[meager tiger]

[weary gust]

Not working as in you bought it and the dock space didn't go up, or not working as in you can't buy more from it?

[opaque gate]

how can i use it?

here are the techs

my dock space is still 335/342, the same as before i joined

[weary gust]

1. That's the warehouse (in the 2nd screenshot) for depot.
2. You need to earn guild contribution points to buy the guild tech that has been unlocked.

[opaque gate]

oooh, so i have to buy it personally? I was on a guild like a year before and i havent bought anything lol

so that's how it works ffs

[weary gust]

Yes. Guild tech requires the guild to have unlocked that tech, then you need to have enough contribution to buy the tech, and when you buy the tech you pay guild tokens and coins.

[opaque gate]

if i leave the guild, will the techs i have bought still be applied to me?

[weary gust]

~3000-4000 contribution should only take a few weeks at most to get, which is like the highest you need. It isn't consumed when you buy the tech afaik, it's just a requirement.

[strange path]

Is D3 ok for gold farming? I dont have access to later worlds

[opaque gate]

thank you! felt like i wasted months worth of contrib on my previous guild

[weary gust]

If you haven't unlocked w9+ then D3 of the event is the best place to farm.

[marsh bison]

Guys so I just return to Azur Lane after a year of not playing it
Can you guys help me with:Choosing the shipgirls to have a fleet efficient enough for grinding event and their gears,also how to grind as many cubes as possible to roll for Lion

[viscid swift]

well for the latter just play the game

[night plaza]

for event EX, what's a recommended team?

[fluid umbra]

What do you guys think of this fleet? (Anti heavy)

[viscid swift]

as for the former well where do we even begin

[viscid swift]

pretty typical heavy armor boss fleet

[viscid swift]

servicable

[night plaza]

i took a huge break and forgot what that was

[fluid umbra]

Any improvements to be made?

[viscid swift]

better gear like Tenrais and La-9s

[viscid swift]

I refer you to the fleet a few messages above for an example

[fluid umbra]

Nothing I can get right now, so this team'll do.
Thanks

[viscid swift]

so I presume you can't get any UR Bullins then

[night plaza]

ah so carriers > bbs, is that sirius? i don't have the other vanguards

[viscid swift]

well not necessarily, good BBs are gonna out do shit CVs even against heavy armor

and EX is easy mode isn't particularly difficult so you have a lot of leeway

[meager tiger]

can you still get the orange meta analysis things even if youre capped on the blue ones?

[night plaza]

if its easy, idk how my vanguard got wiped so hard x-x. was running with ancho, plymouth, and cheshire

[night plaza]

ah wait should i not be autoing

[viscid swift]

you set it to normal right, and nor hard

[night plaza]

yeah, normal

[viscid swift]

how long did the battle last

[night plaza]

got boss down to like x50

[viscid swift]

no I mean time wise

[night plaza]

lemme run and see

[weary gust]

Unless you like manualing it's typically a last resort. Manual play makes your vanguard survive much longer because they're not blindly running into shots. Damage output wise it goes up a bit too because you'll keep the vanguard in attacking range more often, and less planes/suicide boats/subs will leak past them.

[pseudo hearth]

Quick question about the ship ranking doc. On there, Princess Hime is listed as worse for EX battles than the other AEs. Why is that?

[sweet delta]

higher fleet power

and also she doesn't buff

[night plaza]

ah was wrong, got boss down to x23ish on normal, about 2:30 left on the clock

[night plaza]

hm ic so its def something wrong with my comp

[pseudo hearth]

I don't remember the others giving much in terms of straight buffs either tbh

Other than the Cargo

[viscid swift]

you're taking way too long to kill then

what exactly are you using

[night plaza]

it was musashi, uvh, illustrious. with ancho, plymouth and chesh in front

[pseudo hearth]

That's an odd team

[night plaza]

i don't remember what ships go well together

[pseudo hearth]

None of the backline have any sort of synergy with each other

[night plaza]

ah ic

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, if you're going to use Plymouth, then you wanna do triple BB

But, the fact that you're using UvH tells me you don't have much in terms of UR BBs

[night plaza]

i think i have all of them actually, just don't remeber who does what well

[pseudo hearth]

Do you? Oh, because UvH is definitely not who you should be using

Also, Illustrious should not be anywhere near this team

[night plaza]

i just like lusty!

[steep copper]

Should I max LB New Jersey, Frederich, or Lion first? Currently have Nelson and Belorussiya for Max LB BBs.

[hollow gust]

Lion stomps on all of them and spits on them

[pseudo hearth]

Which is fine, but she's not doing anything and is actively sabotaging the team

[night plaza]

icic

i remember i used to use her for survivability but i guess that's not useful here since lion has no planes

[pseudo hearth]

FdG doesn't use UR Bulins...

So IDK why you're asking about her

[steep copper]

Solid point right there

[pseudo hearth]

And like Goose said, Lion is leagues ahead. It's an easy Lion choice.

[night plaza]

so lion flagship? mine's not mlb125 yet

[sturdy oak]

What is mogador’s role and who do i put her with

Also need help on understanding which position to put eldridge in

Ty!

[pseudo hearth]

I was talking to the other guy sorry.

[night plaza]

nono i got that, it just sounded like she's like crazy good

[viscid swift]

yeah that's a pretty garbo fleet

[stark quiver]

mog is a damage dd, i dont think shes used in this meta that much
eldridge is good at keeping your vanguard alive, use her when theres high vanguard pressure

[night plaza]

i get that now

[pseudo hearth]

She is, but you're going to want to make sure she's MLB and a high enough level before you use her for EX battles

[cloud fractal]

How about Trafalgar? Worth investing in?

[viscid swift]

yes

[sturdy oak]

Ty! But for Eldridge placement? Middle spot?

[stark quiver]

usually offtank, her skill depends on her taking damage

[viscid swift]

which begs the question of what exactly do you have to work with

[sturdy oak]

Ok tyty

[night plaza]

gimme a sec to grab dock screenshots

[pseudo hearth]

Like Cheeky said, the people here would need to see what your options are before anything substantial can be suggested

[stark quiver]

do it in a thread btw

[wanton glen]

should i be trashing elite ships and below to free up dock space or are there any particular ships worth keeping?

[tawdry halo]

Is this good for Portland

[stark quiver]

no, portland shouldnt be dying
bring a rudder and toolkit , thats pretty standard

[tawdry halo]

rudder and toolkit or rudder and camo/rudder

[viscid swift]

well a lot of them give good tech, some of them are good

really though I'd just buy more dock space

[bleak nymph]

Lion more suitable for bossing, right? than let's say w14 mobbing? Should she be run with trafalgar always or doesn't really make a difference? What does arcing mean on trafalgar skill, arcing main gun attack? just a normal bb attack?

[tawdry halo]

Then what this aux is good for

[stark quiver]

ships that might die

[tawdry halo]

Also this

[bleak nymph]

Yes all three? lul

[rough vale]

Anyone have that predicted event rerun order that was done awhile ago? Trying to figure out if going for wishing well is worth it rn. Down to 100 coobs after Dutch event drained me

[viscid swift]

the rerun order is literally the order that the events ran in originally

[rough vale]

Main ones are zero to hero & attilo regolo event

[lyric moon]

I don’t think this game understands numbers. Is there some weird rounding it does? I’ve gotten several characters three levels since even hitting the 110 average

[sweet delta]

110 is not greater than 110

[lyric moon]

It’s me who can’t read

[wanton glen]

i guess only way to earn gems for that is by doing story and lvling ships for collection right?

[viscid swift]

those are your main sources as a F2P yes

[stark quiver]

rudder tk

[muted mason]

Any of these planes have use?

[viscid swift]

Firebrand for saving some mats to craft wyverns, that's pretty much it

[muted mason]

Oof

Waste of time... got plenty

[lyric moon]

Yeah I could do it if I split up my mob team but my girls aren’t strong enough to do two 1:1 teams

[rapid grail]

the only plane worth buying isn't in this area. scroll down and get a breguet or two.

[stark quiver]

what is the fastest c5 clear fleet

[whole crypt]

now supposedly somethingsomething lion with preloaders

but that's also denying your boss fleets of Lion and at some point you're just waiting for move and load times anyway

[hallow mountain]

is the twin 127mm still good for Destroyers these days? The gold one obv

[stark quiver]

i dont need lion in my boss fleet

[weary gust]

You can throw it on farming ships for 12-4 if you have some but it's not even worth upgrading ones you randomly get from boxes.

[hallow mountain]

WTF NO??

oh no, i've been enhancing them

is the twin 100mm type 98 better? I have a lot of them

[weary gust]

Pretty much every decent DD gun is either event, gear lab, or PR.

[hallow mountain]

Wtf

Here's all of them

[whole crypt]

those are all year 0 guns, they work but why would you

[weary gust]

Twin 114mm is the best there along with B-13

[hallow mountain]

I don't have anything else for dd

[whole crypt]

if you want a poverty gun that purple twin 120 at the bottom right works

[hallow mountain]

Hmmm ok how about single 138

[whole crypt]

baguettes have aged

[storm olive]

gold 100 is fine to throw on subs iirc

[hallow mountain]

Wait what the hell the 120mm has been good this whole time?

[stark quiver]

its not good, but its usable

[hallow mountain]

Compared to the ones that I've maxed, how does it manage?

[whole crypt]

I don't either but I don't see the point of trying to make my mob fleet any faster

twin 120 performs similarly to 127 off the top of my head

[weary gust]

Effectively the same as the gold twin 127 for med and heavy, better in light.

[faint cloud]

keep in mind there's a lot of purple gears better than gold traps

[hallow mountain]

Yeah but I never considered them for DD guns

When's the next free good DD gun

[whole crypt]

well depending on your progression should be looking for better guns anyway

[stark quiver]

like a year later? unless they rlease smth new

[weary gust]

Gold PR guns are free

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Prototype_Twin_130mm_Model_1936_Main_Gun_Mount#Type_0-0

[whole crypt]

core shop is free

[stark quiver]

it costs core 🧠

[weary gust]

This is why you do opsi.

[stark quiver]

i overcaped on ap everyday

[hallow mountain]

What's the best gun I could give to Helena?

[weary gust]

Helena's personal dps is almost irrelevant, she's fine with the gold cl guns. (Wait Helena can't use DD guns for main gun nvm that last bit)

[hallow mountain]

Man I'm severely lacking in good equipment

Damn

[faint cloud]

just use twin 150 on cls in early game, don't need to bother too much

[eager marsh]

do i pick shinano or new jersey?

[sharp socket]

shinano

[eager marsh]

so many new (to me) urs this update

[sweet delta]

triple 152, the one on richelieu. Triple 155 is better for BBs like richelieu

[hoary relic]

i just unlocked ply and agir at the same time, who should i go for first?

[inner delta]

id say ply but if you need a tank then working for agir is fine

[stark quiver]

if im mid strategic search on c5 repeat and my game crashes, do i still get the rewards even if i dont get the screen where they are shown to me

[sharp socket]

yes

[eager marsh]

agir can use coin right? i'd focus research for ply

[sharp socket]

well it stops where you crashed but you still get the rewards from earlier clears

[stark quiver]

nice

[eternal moth]

How can I restructure my op si teams, havent played in a bit but I got Lion and maxed her and not sure how to fit her in, any help would be awesome

[sweet delta]

oh my

do you have amagi cv maxed? Soyuz, Nakhimov maxed?

[eternal moth]

Just about finished with Soyuz but not Nakhimov

[wind hazel]

the most cookie cutter fleet. can replace vanguard with lion if you want

or alsus

[eternal moth]

Thanks!

[vale spindle]

Fixed

[fallow sedge]

Should I use the new ur gun for lion

[tranquil dagger]

Who should I put trafalgar in for? I'm gonna MLB her by the end of the event

[sweet delta]

These aren't your leveling fleets though? She'll be in mob fleet to gain exp

[opaque gate]

gold bullet worth buying for lion?

[soft raft]

Eh
just buy a regular white shell

[opaque gate]

is it stronger? cuz i have more coredata to spare

[wind hazel]

0.1% stronger

[cobalt rapids]

its stronger by like 0.03% and weaker in practice by 18% because u dont +13 it

[opaque gate]

oh lol, okay thanks

[soft raft]

the difference is miniscule in return for being exclusively locked to HMS

[opaque gate]

so even in +13, only a few % better than white

[cobalt rapids]

a few % is generous

[wind hazel]

i wish it was "a few"

[soft raft]

too miniscule to make a noticeable difference

and you cant use that shell on non HMS ships so wahey

[wary skiff]

whats the one in middle vaangaurd slot

[opaque gate]

okok thanks!

[hollow gust]

Yellow shell is a flex equipment

[wind hazel]

watarase

[cobalt rapids]

you can see here

[faint cloud]

scroll down a bit

[opaque gate]

.3k difference dang, ok thx

white bullet also has higher FP lol, so if it doesnt crit, then white bullet definitely givesnkore dmg

[wind hazel]

maybe it will make the difference

[sharp socket]

BB variance be like

[stark quiver]

not even mine but

[exotic wren]

Help, I already forgot how to build fleets

[stark quiver]

oh yea also, at least white shells can be used on all bbs when +13

[hollow gust]

we have a really strong support barrage , we should all be oneshotting

[stark quiver]

sorry my beginner fleet cannot one shot metas

[tacit nimbus]

Is the SP stage supposed to open up after clearing the 6 event stages? mine's not unlocking for some reason

[wind hazel]

when you clear D3

/hardmode

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460648604974055424/1322138175426269215/image0.png

[tacit nimbus]

ah... i couldnt find the hard mode earlier, found it now, thank you!

[slow fox]

I don't oneshot

[hallow mountain]

is it still worth to build Saratoga

i have better CVs I think

[wind hazel]

eventually, she has avi tech

[pliant gyro]

oh i just got Lion in 20 pulls. soo should i spam that banner? or just 1 is enough?

[opaque galleon]

What is this list saying? Some of the numbers align with my expectations but a lot of them also don’t. Is this assuming the best possible equipment for each armor type, ie, double La9 for YK2 medium? If this is generally accurate, is Lion truly that far above the rest?

[inner delta]

just 1

[inner delta]

smth smth cope number

but she is really powerful

[pliant gyro]

aight damn im actually lucky getting her.

[wary skiff]

does backline disruption lvl 95 require manual play ever y time? i cleared it 4/4 manually.. everything else is auto

[inner delta]

you can just skip?

[wary skiff]

wont let me

[opaque galleon]

Am I to understand this as an accurate dps list or one that doesn’t account for context at all?

[inner delta]

oh you didnt 3 star then

[wary skiff]

oh ya def didnt.. i dont have great ssubs

[inner delta]

i dont remember if it's not accounting for combat

[opaque galleon]

To my understanding, nano amagi is better than haku amagi, but this list does have haku individually above nano

So I’m guessing some context may be missing

[wind hazel]

i assume those are individual damage not accounting the buff when paired

either way take it with a grain of salt lol

[opaque galleon]

With that said, I know carriers do more damage than BBs so idk why they are presented as lower

[sterile jolt]

In raw dmg with 100% hit rate ig

[pliant gyro]

Can anyone TLDR me why Lion is OP?

[cobalt rapids]

highest dmg bb

[pliant gyro]

omg its so hard to find stuff when idk where to look at for Azur Lane stuff haha

[sterile jolt]

Her burn can apply on subs, CV under camouflage with 1.7k dmg per tick, high damage from guns and barrage, high tankiness cuz 30% less dmg from 3rd skill

[pliant gyro]

ohh thanks!

[raw ravine]

worth exchangin the rest to get trafalgar or sould I just stick to the event daily quest?

[wind hazel]

worth but do it near end of event for efficiency

[raw ravine]

ahhh okay

she's still base 3 star now 😦 want to lmb first stage at least

should I swap or stick to 120 for Trafalgar?

[storm heron]

you can use a single blue 76

also I don't think bro has mgm + 1 💀

[raw ravine]

isn't that garbage?

[storm heron]

not for some ships

[raw ravine]

yeah mb I was thinking of a different ship hahaha

this is the one right? @storm heron

[normal cedar]

why did I get only 1 print in the first run and not 2? i thought it always dropped 2 blue at minimum

[sterile jolt]

So, youre wrong. Thats it

[warped acorn]

is traf a support?

[sweet delta]

You didn't get S rank

[sterile jolt]

Wait, really?...

[sweet delta]

ong

[wind hazel]

no lol it drops in a range

[split gazelle]

Up to Two Retrofit Blueprints are awarded on an S-Rank clear.

[wind hazel]

nvm i misread and thought the meta drops

[native robin]

will the pity from this event carry on to the next event?

[tame jungle]

nope

[native robin]

aww cmon

[tame jungle]

better save up next time

long way to go until the end of the event anyways so you still got a chance to get her

[wind hazel]

is lion's crossfleet stronger than alsace?

[grave ridge]

Which 2 of these 3 BB guns are best for NJ and biscuit 2 in same fleet? Thx

And is NJ/Biscuit 2 worth replacing with lion?

[exotic wren]

in WA, i don't need to 3 star D3 for rudder/ gold gears to drop right?

[wind hazel]

no but you also shouldnt be farming gear from WA

[zenith heron]

since I was busy, is Lion considered the Strongest there is as of now as a BB Ship? Or is it specific?

[cobalt rapids]

only 2 of those guns (nj and lion gun ) go hand in hand in the same fleet because they tackle the same armor
raff gun is for medium
as for swaps idk what ure doing with them but lion is much stronger than nj

[grave ridge]

Okey

Thanks

[final magnet]

Yo can I ask for help for formation in this channel?

What teams can be formed with this?

Been playing on off and decided to add AL to my regular

[echo vector]

Is collection stuck at 99.9% again ?

[whole crypt]

fleet comps will be content-specific, what are you trying to do?

[whole crypt]

probably pending either Little Agir or one of the new METAs

[final magnet]

Just endgame in particular

[whole crypt]

that or Glowworm's retrofit

[final magnet]

Siren content and some for the damage checks

[boreal wagon]

little ägir isnt in the files yet

[whole crypt]

it's GW I just noticed I haven't done it myself

Lil Agir and Grenville are probably going to be coming maint and Kawakaze the next one

[boreal wagon]

more than likely

[whole crypt]

there's 2 endgames, ch14/15 and harb/META oneshotting

the real endgame is maxing fleet tech

[echo vector]

Turns out i haven't retrofit my GW

[whole crypt]

yep

[echo vector]

Now i'm back to 100% completion

[tender girder]

If my URs include:
BB: Rafa, FDG
CV, CVL: Implaccable
CL: Sandy
CA, CB: Agir

Should I MLB Lion or Traf first?

[tame jungle]

lion

[covert phoenix]

Just checking, the handbook system and all its missions are permanent, correct?

[acoustic quiver]

yea unless they rework it again i guess

[whole crypt]

they replace the old rookie missions so yes, barring another rework they should be here to stay

I'd imagine they can just change the invite if they want to include more old URs and just append new mechanics tutorial when they finally add new game modes

[river remnant]

is Cleopatra good?

[whole crypt]

not for a modeie SR CL

[raw ravine]

I need help, why do I get this error accepting weekly event reward? I have only 2.8 now after spending

[whole crypt]

you can only earn up to 5k each month

[raw ravine]

..... so it'll be lost ;-;

[whole crypt]

you can stock basically unlimited but the game only lets you earn 5k each month from grinding and missions, that's the menu you get when you go over

if you grind regularly into midgame onwards you'll cap out on this easily every month

[raw ravine]

I see basically this weekend is june, does it reset? I can hold out on the resource then innit

[whole crypt]

you could claim the weeklies on Sunday and they'll count to June, yes

but you'll likely run into the same thing again next month and at some point you'll get it earlier than the last week of the month

I wouldn't seriously worry about it

[normal cedar]

How much of AA is the Main fleet supposed to provide compared to the vanguard?
My mob backline is running low on hp despite running a lv 115 vanguard with gold bofors and roomba on 12-1 safe

[whole crypt]

main fleet AA is mainly from planes, not their own AA fire

what are you using now

[normal cedar]

vanguard is anchorage, traf, saint louis
main is lion (115), saratoga (115), ark royal (93)

btw ectl seems to suggest converging torps over parallel for ark, is it simply due to her slow? ectl doesnt seem to list any particular reason for that order, can I use parallel with lower reload than converging on her? will I lose out on a lot of damage, assuming she is in my mob fleet?

[viral flicker]

Came back to ask the question should I do trafalgar or z52

[whole crypt]

Trafalgar has good AA there's not a lot of reason for the main fleet to be biting it, yes Arc Royal's recommendation is based on slow but parallel tends to be better mobbing coverage regardless

[whole crypt]

how about wait for Lion

[viral flicker]

I already lost hope bro

[fiery swan]

If I have all gacha URs except for unzen, and all of them except for vanguard and yorkii are MLB and battle ready to various degrees from 101-125 + decent equipment, do I prioritize MLB Lion or Trafalgar

[viral flicker]

I am 123 pulls in

[whole crypt]

event hasn't even ran for one week

new newbie missions has cubes and we also get June cruise soon

[viral flicker]

All finished

[whole crypt]

there's 2 more weeks

[fiery swan]

I'm 150 pulls in though, should I wait for my second Lion before using urin

[whole crypt]

why would you still pull from event pool if you already have Lion

[fiery swan]

Oh right

What edge does Lion have over Trafalgar if I already have every other UR BB

[normal cedar]

my traf has 327 AA with blue skill (#2) at lv.8, is it enough for her to be effective?
saratoga is running +6 cosair, 2x +10 helldiver
ark royal retro has 2x proto vit +6,+6 gold suisei
should I be changing something wiht my planes? my main fleet goes below 25% health by the end of mobbing,and ark royal dies sometimes...

[whole crypt]

Lion is the new BB DPS ceiling

Trafalgar is another z52-esque role but slightly worse outside of buffing Lion it seems

[whole crypt]

+10 the corsair, VIT has no guns but I suspect you may be killing too slowly for plane damage to build

[whole crypt]

there's literally at least 40 more pulls between now and when event ends for fuck's sake

[normal cedar]

I see, Ill switch that and try again
ill try using gold barracuda instead of vit in that case, i think barra has guns
thanks

[whole crypt]

yes but the TB guns aren't really consequential. at least they shouldn't be outside of breg and wyvern

[dusty terrace]

Is it not worth it running an ARA ship in a Soyuz / Nakhi / Fritz fleet? I never see it being recommended, is it not worth it with only two CVs?

[whole crypt]

it can be worth depending but high DPS vanguards can be bigger than that margin

[blissful hamlet]

What's the final evaluation on Trafalgar

[whole crypt]

we don't have a final eval yet

[blissful hamlet]

[whole crypt]

at the very least not bad but still waiting to see where she fits, potentially relegated to Lion buffing duty compared to Z52 and Laffey II

[fiery swan]

Does Lion need flag

Also should I put her own gun on her or do I go for champygun

And is flandre gun any good

[wind hazel]

doesnt need flag, what gun she uses is based on what you're facing

[fiery swan]

How good is flandre gun compared to champygun

[wind hazel]

sidegrade

[whole crypt]

D2 is the best coin/oil until D3 assuming I'm still stuck in pre-ch9?

[wind hazel]

ye

unless you go farm at d4 war archive, maybe

not sure if it's any better tbh

[whole crypt]

only have 12 keys

[wary timber]

Is the new rainbow BB gun better then the mk7

[whole crypt]

supposedly slightly

[wary timber]

Well well. Is it worth using on FDG

[whole crypt]

it's worth using on any BB for anti-light except Musashi

[wary timber]

All right. Thanks

[deep cypress]

Should I prioritize developing Shimanto or Hindenburg, guys?

[whole crypt]

probably Shimanto

[warped acorn]

is traf a support

[hardy creek]

Who do I replace with sandy in this team? I've already retrofit her and get her augment

[wind hazel]

z23, or 2nd fleet

[deep cypress]

Even if I have Trafalgar? I've read Shimanto's been powercrept by Trafalgar.

[hardy creek]

Alright

[wind hazel]

they dont even do the same thing

[deep cypress]

Aren't they AA carries?

[wind hazel]

good AA is their only similarity

[normal cedar]

samheart guide says these are a meme and never used in practice
then why are they marked green? it means it is used somewhere?
im running low on main fleet AA so maybe I was thinking I could use one of these in w12

[deep cypress]

Hmm... I'll develop Shimanto, then. I mean, I have Ägir and Anchorage fully developed. I guess I don't really need another tank, right?

[wind hazel]

those are fighter for w15 support fleet

they become meme outside of w15 support

w12 you just use any fighter with bombs like corsair, hellcat, flapjack etc

[wind hazel]

can never have too many tanks

[normal cedar]

ohh makes sense, so you use the gold one or purple one in w15? purple has higher aa i think

[tawdry halo]

@solar lily welcome sir, you may ask any helps regarding AL gameplay here

[wind hazel]

fw is better

[tawdry halo]

[solar lily]

guh new people i have to interact with

[wind hazel]

uh... i mean the gold fw

[hardy creek]

Is there any guide on what gears to use on specific classes of ships? I'm just putting anything on my ships at this point.

[whole crypt]

bottom line Shimanto is much faster to finish and Hindenburg doesn't really do much before d30

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[hardy creek]

Thanks

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks
Is the purple one usable on w15? since its cheaper to craft I could craft some of them now
if its not usable in w15 then I wont craft ofc since its a waste then..

[wind hazel]

when you're w15 already you will have no problem crafting the gold ones

[whole crypt]

just ignore it before you get to 15

[tawdry halo]

A bit out of topic but uh, is there any Washington players in here who has/is inside a guild? I just wanna ask to help out my friend @solar lily

[wind hazel]

@ sam

[whole crypt]

there's no need to "pre-craft" gear you won't be using for likely months

[whole crypt]

just think of us as FAQ bots

[deep cypress]

Yeah. I have lots of Shimanto's BPs, too. The thing is I don't have too many Sakura Vanguard ships...

[tame jungle]

#1246721562741178410

[whole crypt]

you can just use any vanguards anyway, are you just wrapping up PR6?

[deep cypress]

More or less, yes.

[normal cedar]

but im having aa problems in world 12 lol...
cosair aint cutting it.. with 2cv sara and ark, i tried running it after you suggested me some changes, it still results in main fleet running too low on hp
I wasnt having problems when I ran ancho/scylla/saint with franklin/sara/colorado but traf, lion and ark royal seem to break my mob fleet

[tawdry halo]

I'm more of trusting people I somewhat know/often interact with in here because I dont want to put my friend to places without a connecting bridge at least

[deep cypress]

Who is worth building?

[wind hazel]

are they low or are they dying

[whole crypt]

getting home soon start a thread might have more holes we need to fill

all of them in the top row are fair game

[wind hazel]

if they are just low and not dying, it's a non issue

[normal cedar]

ark dies, sara and lion are 15-20% hp
but thats because ark is lv 93 i think

[whole crypt]

to be fair based on what he said the ships were they shouldn't even be low

[wind hazel]

12-4?

[deep cypress]

I'll use Kaza, Kawakaze and Watarase, then. Thanks, man.

[normal cedar]

12-1 safe

Ill make a thread, just wait plz

[whole crypt]

1

[solar lily]

mmm otay

[normal cedar]

Bagura 12-1 Mob Fleet problems

[hardy creek]

This alright for sandy?

[crimson glacier]

really bad maingun

and torp aux is useless

sandy wants DD guns and both auxes should just be stuff to make her more tanky

[rancid mural]

how do i change formations in project siren? i went to a port and it says you have to be in a port

[plain saffron]

Blue port

[crimson glacier]

are you sure you are at port

[rancid mural]

oh blue port, alright that worked thanks

[hardy creek]

Would this one be better? I don't really have much options on main guns

[crimson glacier]

that works but purple this is about as good while being cheaper to upgrade

[hardy creek]

Oh I have that

[honest sequoia]

guys isit true that lion has a bugged crossfleet barrage that raises the detection gauge on flagship CVs

[warped acorn]

worth buying?

[sterile jolt]

Yes she have

[honest sequoia]

well fk cuz she ruined my OpSi cv comp

[hardy creek]

Is maxing Sandy's augment a priority?

[south sequoia]

How much dmg per tick does lion burn do in pve

[sterile jolt]

1.5-1.7k

[south sequoia]

oh thats insane

[sterile jolt]

Not really, just when you struggling

Subs in left side... Just one tick in 14-4... Ridiculous damage

[wind hazel]

BALTIMORE!!!!!

what level skills is that btw

[sterile jolt]

I just put her for farm exp, not the fleet issue :DD

[sterile jolt]

10-8-6 lion

[wind hazel]

think it will reach 2k by lv10 s2?

i saw 1.7k on lv7

[sterile jolt]

Well, 1.8k~~~~2k

Idk for real

Maybe i need black shell

[wind hazel]

plygun extra 20fp

[sterile jolt]

1822

[dreamy blade]

bow aug extra 17 fp

[sterile jolt]

-5% dmg

Like in general bow gun is a debuff

[boreal wagon]

the -5% wouldnt affect the burn but yes

[dreamy blade]

higher dps(creenshot) yup

[worldly pewter]

can she mount mogador gun ?

[sterile jolt]

Less fp

[wind hazel]

but why

plygun 65 fp, mog gun 55

[worldly pewter]

[sterile jolt]

Ig the burn fp scaling was capped in some numbers

[wind hazel]

lars surely know the code

right?

idk wtf this means i see number and letters my brain shut off

[boreal wagon]

thats the wrong burn anyway

[wind hazel]

fuck

this?

[boreal wagon]

WepDmg refers to the damage listed by the barrage same for coeff (its the damage modifier)

FP refers to whatever FP value she has the moment it triggers

and that gives the value before any other factors that increase it

(its the same fomula as on the wiki)

[wind hazel]

i guess there's some fp threshold to meet before it increases further, since /100

[boreal wagon]

also this is for level 10 skill

idr if her values actually change with it leveling up tho

[wind hazel]

p2w oathers will get better burn damage

game literally p2w

[muted swift]

Is this a good Wolfpack formation? Ignore levels etc, just the ships

[wind hazel]

get u37 or u101 if you have it
remove 556

[sterile jolt]

1722

[muted swift]

Lemme check if I got em

[sterile jolt]

Well, dont really matter

[wind hazel]

can buy 37 from merit shop, or farm from WA

[muted swift]

Hm I could...

[sterile jolt]

So. 100 dmg burn with 80 extra fp?

[muted swift]

Yeah I can wait for 37 to be available, is she SR?

[boreal wagon]

actually i think its determined by the gun she carries regardless but idr, @inland shoal do u remember

[sullen birch]

I got her
Maxed limit break
What I should give her?

[inland shoal]

It is determined by the dmg of the bullet that inflicts the DoT

[boreal wagon]

[inland shoal]

So in this case 20 if you're unlucky (aka the lion doesn't hit) and 200 if you're lucky (aka the lion hits)

[orchid patio]

Is this good?

[raw ravine]

i'd like to know too some guys said gibe blue gun

[wind hazel]

yes blue gun

[raw ravine]

oooon why blue 76 over the 10mm purple or other?

[wind hazel]

fast gun to proc her barrage

[sullen birch]

The one that looks like an single pipe

[wind hazel]

yes

[warped acorn]

how did these both weapon stats so similar with diff of fp

[wind hazel]

ask dev

[warped acorn]

also do traf use 76mm aa gun

[boreal wagon]

76 or 113

[normal cedar]

which ship will be more useful in the long run: harbin or chkalov?
asking for deciding both: catchup and whether to focus on dragon or sardegna points

[wind hazel]

i'd say harbin

[worldly pewter]

the question what will u win if u get the highest burn damage ?

[wind hazel]

pvp

[worldly pewter]

win pvp that doesn't have ranking rewards

[wind hazel]

at least i get some merit

need 90 more gold bulin

[sterile jolt]

Not burn... Just one torp

[forest palm]

after a while you forget PvP exists unless the game forces you in one way or another

[zinc prairie]

Does Lion replace any Bossing BB comp?

[warped acorn]

🤯 dang bro

[undone plover]

The true difference between these 2 shows when u upgrade the left one to +13
Not that u should immediately do that
Maybe there is other prio for your gun plates

[wind hazel]

funny enough the most likely one that gets replaced isn't a BB, but a CV

but still pending further testing

[zinc prairie]

who?

[warped acorn]

currently dont have prio cuz still using 1 fleet, but is the specialize gear upgrade part usable on that?

[undone plover]

What is that show a screenshot idk the name

[undone plover]

Yes that is used to upgrade UR gear to +13

[warped acorn]

only 12 to 13 right or

[undone plover]

I believe so yes
It is on the wiki

[warped acorn]

sadge looks like a long way to go

[worldly pewter]

it is harder to get plates than these cog stuff dw

[whole crypt]

rainbow gear is low priority to 13 anyway, you'll probably have more than enough upgrade parts before you have enough plates

[warped acorn]

hope so 🙏

[whole crypt]

it's not hope so, just keep running OS and buying shop up

[wind hazel]

fritz

heavy might boot soyuz for triple bb

but triple bb is kinda ehh nowadays

<@&472236072743600148>

forgot tag the reply

[undone plover]

Mods slacking ping admins

<@&460646206851252224>

[atomic abyss]

/kick 397755648483524609 0

[odd root]

member must be a mention or valid user id.

[wind hazel]

admins that handle these stuff usually have mod tags too

[undone plover]

I didnt know

[warped acorn]

well does twin 100 or 76mm better for traf

[wind hazel]

76

[warped acorn]

alr

also what aux and aug for her

[wind hazel]

toolkit+hp aux

sword

[warped acorn]

what abt 2 toolkit

[undone plover]

Since a toolkit is hp aux it works

[wind hazel]

works

[warped acorn]

alr

cant wait to see her getting 1 shotted in matches soon

[worldly pewter]

[humble tapir]

why does enterprise only have 1 skill 😭

[inner delta]

she's super old

[ivory pawn]

Cause day 1 ship.

Still top tier despite that.

[worldly pewter]

it is not about how many skills
it is about what the skill does

[humble tapir]

ah

[forest palm]

1 Skill and still competes with most URs

and said skill has a future proofing function where new stronger planes are technically an indirect buff to her

[whole crypt]

to be fair she's slowly sliding off in comps with more URs taking up buff/debuff roles as well

she only compares on pure damage and it's starting to not add up

in any case she's still worth investing in as a new player because low upkeep, and you won't have a set of URs good to go for bossing early on

[humble tapir]

how does essex compare to enterprise?

[eternal moth]

She doesn't

[honest sequoia]

does anyone of yall use Lion in OpSi?? cuz shes messing up flagship CV gauge

or do u guys just use lion in meta showdown/arbiter

[eternal moth]

FIrst question: Why are you using her with CVs?

[honest sequoia]

uhm no its her cross barrage

her cross barrage is somewhat force detecting my flagship cv

[undone plover]

X-fleet triggers detection
I didnt know this

[honest sequoia]

idk if its a bug or what

[late flame]

definitely working as intended

[boreal wagon]

its not a bug perse

every barrage has its own expose value set, most xfleets are set to 0 but not all

musashi for instance has parts of her barrage that inconsequentially raise the gauge aswell

the devs just decided that lion should raise the gauge on her entire barrage

[honest sequoia]

what the helly

does that mean i cant run a cv comp in opsi anymore if i use lion? 😭

[worldly pewter]

are ur cv that weak to not being able to use them even with full detection ?

[turbid marsh]

think cn is cooking something like lion with yamato gun replacing luna in opsi mob XD or something like that

[whole crypt]

just use Lion with CV (SoyNak) fleet

[honest sequoia]

i mean their not weak at full detection but uh yk
I like it hidden 😭

[dusty terrace]

what is the full fleet?

[whole crypt]

Lion with slow gun + preloads basically

shit is supposed to all die before gun loads

[sharp echo]

i assume this is a very good cat. right?

[forest palm]

it's certainly a cat, but no

[undone plover]

U dont want mixed talents
U generally want to focus CV or BB
Vanguard cats are also a bit meh

Sub cats are also a thing

[sharp echo]

oof

does HP talent even pickable? i always ignore it

[undone plover]

U want flame on your cats + hull talent
Then FP for BB
AVI and RLD for CV
TRP and RLD for Subs

[dusty terrace]

does it include preload vanguards too? like ibuki unzen and some random tank?

[turbid marsh]

they cooking something like z52 unzen izumo or something

[wind hazel]

izumo wtf

[undone plover]

Prolly means ibuki

[worldly pewter]

for what ?

[undone plover]

Opsi mob

[whole crypt]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Krjjz7EYs/

[worldly pewter]

strongholds ?

[wind hazel]

for fast clear

[turbid marsh]

i meant ibuki

brain aint working right, typically tune that down when im working XD

[whole crypt]

at a glance not much faster than current speed CV comps

but probably more stable against shitty bosses

[wind hazel]

uses fast clear comp
has the stupid end screen animation that wastes more time

[whole crypt]

let's face it for most part they probably don't actually look at the screen, this is for testing

[wind hazel]

yea i just find it ironic

[whole crypt]

well doesn't change the fact since most OS clears are AFK exercises it really doesn't matter whether you save 3 or 5s from the current comps

if even that

[wind hazel]

📠

[turbid marsh]

doesn't change that she prefers 76/113, but 1.

[whole crypt]

and xuanxu is also not doing a full OS comp overhaul yet, waiting for next META probably to minimize swapping

https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=44189357

also if you're a c1 person Lion + preload carrier apparently does 3s clears

[urban grail]

is 76 mk 37 better than sextuple

[whole crypt]

I'm tempted to say Depends™️ but if you're using rainbow AA is basically almost always better than sextuple

[urban grail]

what about the other rainbow accel

[whole crypt]

57mm is better than an accelerator

in fact if you think 57mm is an accelerator you probably shouldn't bother too much about AA circle optimization over just spamming rainbow guns

[weak moat]

Chang Chun is worth reto right

She’s like tier 0 on the tier list and I’m using north parliament ships

[whole crypt]

DDGs good in general

[worldly pewter]

depends on many factors
mainly if u have the item from the cny event

then if u are comfortable buying it from the protocore shop

[whole crypt]

DDGs are fairly cheap to pick up retrofit item, a bigger problem could be DDG gear from core shop

[worldly pewter]

especially after the new medal update

[woven star]

FuShun good. her 15 sec barrage ~~targetable ~~ have autotarget instead of AnShan