gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

what about 0 0 0 0

[slow fox]

sure

[slow fox]

morialt spotted thanks

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 self rally because no friendo

[late flame]

🐌

[slow fox]

Too many 9 👎

[plain saffron]

Am i crazy, since when retire screen sort ship by lvl?

[native robin]

if I may ask, are you f2p?

[barren barn]

Should i change someone in my fleets?

[plain saffron]

Do you have more pixel

[warped acorn]

what type of ship can attack submarine

[slow fox]

/asw

[wind hazel]

dd cl

[plain saffron]

all DD and CL except mainz

[wind hazel]

sometimes CV and now BB

[plain saffron]

cvl and warspite if have asw plane also

[late flame]

/subs

[odd root]

These wiki pages go into explanations on submarines https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Submarines and anti-submarine (ASW) mechanics https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Anti-Submarine_Warfare

[warped acorn]

do they use main gun to

[plain saffron]

they have built in depth charges

and you can equip better ones if you want

[warped acorn]

oh alr

[late flame]

i have never understood why there is only one copy of hedgehog though
good luck if scrapped accidentally

[barren barn]

Should i dev Anchorage agir admiral hindenburg or Napoli?

[rose cosmos]

How good is that new rainbow bb gun

[plain saffron]

to punish people who didn't read

[wind hazel]

go with anchorage and agir, they can be coined

[late flame]

imagine not getting event limited gear

[crimson marsh]

whats the best way to get gold upgrade parts for gear?

[barren barn]

Are you sure i should awaken lion?

[plain saffron]

100% sure

[barren barn]

Where should i add lion fdg and implacable

[rose cosmos]

Honestly I have no idea what I should do but I mlb-ed her anyway lol, is she great for w15?

[wary skiff]

What is +1 salvo that lion has?

[plain saffron]

she can store 2 charges instead of 1 like other BB

[wary skiff]

hm? so is it like for manual play?

[plain saffron]

also affects timing a little bit

[wary skiff]

what is considered a salvo

[south sequoia]

the shot your bb fires when you press the button

[plain saffron]

1 time you click the bb fire button

[wary skiff]

oh, i watched her only fire 2 tho at 5 star? 2 with a grouping of 3 shots each

[cobalt rapids]

lion best sub killer fr

[plain saffron]

that depends on main gun mount

at 0lb it's 1, 1lb 2, 3lb 3

[south sequoia]

she doesn't get a third shot until 6 stars

[wary skiff]

ye which confusees me with salvo, dunno if it would move the shots from 3 to 4

[south sequoia]

lion expands her salvo capacity

not how much salvos she fires

[wary skiff]

im just gonna google what a salvo is

[south sequoia]

we just told you what it is

[plain saffron]

wait until you read the skills because ingame skill TL use salvo and volley interchangably

[late flame]

smol indie company plox understand

[barren barn]

Fleet building

[plain saffron]

real life and ingame might be different

[wary skiff]

ok so this?

[plain saffron]

yes

[paper walrus]

At what dev lvl does hakuryuu become usable

[cobalt rapids]

25-30 depending on ur dock

[crimson glacier]

depends what you mean by usable

[plain saffron]

25 is usable but not for any hard content, 30 to be really usable

[wary skiff]

so does it have any use during auto ? like i dunno why i would want another salvo stored

other than manually firing 2 salvos during helena buff or something

[plain saffron]

2nd reload starts immediately, other ships have slight delay

[wary skiff]

ah ok, that makes more sense then

[paper walrus]

🙏

[south sequoia]

it is so your shots will automatically start charging again without lion being blocked from other bbs firing next to her

[wary skiff]

so she will naturally desync no matter what?

[barren barn]

Hi i need help in thread #1376140196193767446

[south sequoia]

I'm not entirely sure about that, but the desync shouldnt be that big for you to notice

[cobalt rapids]

no

[hollow spruce]

Hi im just starting out but gear farming, dupes, and all the things are still a little confusing. ive played other gachas before and was wondering if there is some kind of databank like prydwen for the game. or any video "beginner" guide you would recommend

[plain saffron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[normal cedar]

So the pinned invitation message says "sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options" for Formi & Graf
For formi I assume the options are ark royal, implac, etc but what are the options for graf?

[late flame]

any dps oriented cv
tbh only reason you'd want her is for kms tech anyway

[hollow spruce]

thanks looks like thats what i was looking for

[visual bane]

Which one is the better investment between these two cats or are they both cooked

[honest stirrup]

They're not the best but I'd say the first one seems to be worth investing in for now

Soulful warrior is a decent skill to have as a base skill

[graceful kelp]

is it rented skin or u bought it?

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[visual bane]

Ok I dug through my cat box and found these two as well, is it worth keeping both and have one geared to an IB fleet?

[rose cosmos]

I bought it

[late flame]

usual disclaimer : if you are f2p - gems goes to dock space (or do /gems in #bot-spam )
buy skins only if 💳

[cobalt rapids]

IB talent and cruiser talent are not desirable but they have flame and staff so they are at least usable if u dont have anything better

[sage hare]

As a newbie is it worth it to get glorious Meta?

[late flame]

not really

[cobalt rapids]

after the gun but if u are farming D3 dont buy her till the end

shes one of the stronger gold cv so u can use her

[late flame]

well, these mats are not that easy to come by for newer players

[arctic aspen]

if you're saying that it has to be crazy

[late flame]

cant wait for game breaking bugs

[arctic aspen]

[fleet vale]

Hi there. Dunno if this info I'm looking for is available anywhere, but if so, does anyone know if the META materials that now drop in Hard Mode change according to what chapter we are playing? Or how much it's dropped per level/chapter? Some kind of drop rate, I guess.

[viral flicker]

Can I win?

[tame jungle]

have you tried?

[viral flicker]

Everyone was dying...

[late flame]

assuming everyone MLB and good gear yes
else no

[cobalt rapids]

it scales between 1-3 from ch1 to ch13

[late flame]

you are cooked bro

[viral flicker]

Help me out bro

[late flame]

more levels max out their stars

[fleet vale]

So, higher chapter better odds I assume. Thanks! 👍

[late flame]

[cobalt rapids]

no i mean they are fixed
like ch1 will drop 1 mat/run and ch13 will drop 3/run

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Hard_Mode

[cobalt rapids]

that doesnt say

[jade creek]

Guys

[late flame]

i also have not seen any drop tbh

[inland shoal]

It's new this patch

[jade creek]

How can i unbind my yostar email guys

[late flame]

hmm ok rng hates me maybe

[fleet vale]

Ohhh. Sorry, I misunderstood you. Welp, time to try ch13 hard mode. Again, thanks! 👍

[inland shoal]

Do you happen to know the full list?

[viral flicker]

I go back to c2 then

[plain saffron]

AI doesn't read patch notes

[late flame]

wait what chaper 2

[quasi nymph]

which is the better option and for what reason ?

[tame jungle]

2nd because 1st one is hot garbage

[plain saffron]

right 1000%

[late flame]

right gun wins

[quasi nymph]

i thought some people used to say that the quad he gun was better ?

[tame jungle]

then some people are wrong

[late flame]

you thought wrong

[quasi nymph]

can anyone send the spreadsheets again ?

[honest stirrup]

Even the gold quad isn't better

[visual bane]

Can you pull ships and cats out of opsci

[inland shoal]

Wdym pull out?

[cobalt rapids]

mb, i lied they are not fixed
but i have not seen anything over 3 in ch13

[upper vine]

if i level up a bulin how can i still use them to lb or can i not anymore

[late flame]

#gameplay-help message

[inland shoal]

You can by clicking the level > 1 filter

[tame jungle]

yes you can, you just gotta make sure it's unlocked and disable the filters when trying to select them

[viral flicker]

No event c2

[visual bane]

Ty

[fleet vale]

No worries. Either way, ch13 should have better drop rates and it always give more core data, so I'm still gonna try it. Still, thanks for the info!

[late flame]

you should try d2 or d1 until you can clear d3 because oil cap

[viral flicker]

The photo of that was of d1...

[hollow spruce]

which one of the summer invitation ships would you recommend to someone just starting out?

[late flame]

i see, my bad

you should retrofit unicorn asap

[graceful kelp]

wow

[boreal wagon]

pretty sure its 1-3 in all chapters
(but the chances for 2-3 may differ per chapter)

[hushed sorrel]

is there a ready fleet for event ex?

[sterile jolt]

Hard?

[hushed sorrel]

any (normal or hard) will do for the 500 cog mission

[late flame]

i just threw a standard cv fleet at it for the 500 cogs :
shinano / amagi cv / implacable
guam / kazagumo / sirius

[limber pulsar]

Who should I be replacing with plymmy and trafalgar for ch13/14 mob?

[hushed sorrel]

please give me the shipnames. the picture alone doesnt help me

[sterile jolt]

Implacable, Amagi CV, Shinano, Ibuki, helena, jintsu meta

[hushed sorrel]

thank you. i will try

[limber pulsar]

Ohh mb lol

[sterile jolt]

Replace neptune with Plymouth and drake with traf

[hushed sorrel]

thank you too. <3

[steep sleet]

How good is this UR?

[sterile jolt]

Wait a minute... Is this a fleet that you really wanna go in w13/w14? Like 40 lvl lion?

[sterile jolt]

Broken af

[whole crypt]

when's little agir supposed to be again

[limber pulsar]

Obviously not lol, I'm gna level it up

I'm not even sure if anyone has a fully maxed lion yet

[steep sleet]

Shall I pull her as my starter UR?Idk if I can save up to 400 cubes before the banner ends

[sterile jolt]

Lol not really, is someone have 1.8k books they already can max lvl

[whole crypt]

you don't need a starter UR but if you can get her sure

[sterile jolt]

I alr have 125 lion too, farm exp from 100

[limber pulsar]

How abt the skills?

[whole crypt]

the problem with maxing ships is skills take time

[sterile jolt]

10 red, 7 yellow, 0 blue

[limber pulsar]

136hrs

[dreamy blade]

200 affinity?

[limber pulsar]

Or 6 ish days

[sterile jolt]

Rainbow books

[limber pulsar]

Ohhhh right

[sterile jolt]

Not ofc, i dont have rings

[whole crypt]

125/200 is easily doable in 2 days

[limber pulsar]

Forgot I'm a brokie

[sterile jolt]

Yeah

[bleak dock]

This stuff just for chilling or theres rewards?

[whole crypt]

chilling

[sterile jolt]

Chilling, smile while you rase her

[limber pulsar]

Yk idrk why seydlitz is ranked low, her invincibility is so clutch

[bleak dock]

Ah ty

[whole crypt]

smile when she steps on you

[whole crypt]

because it's 🚮

[sterile jolt]

She lack so much damage compare to ur meta nowadays

[steep sleet]

My current line up is
Front : Portland -laffey -helena
Rear: unicorn - Pennsylvania -long island
Currently able to clear things well,But I wonder how much lion would work with my lineup or who shall I replace lion with .I think If I smh get 400 cubes I might pull her

[limber pulsar]

That's fair

[whole crypt]

I mean there's mid-high comps that use her in PvP
but in PvE there is 0 situation where you want a zombie skill to proc on a main fleet ship

it's not even about her damage

[sterile jolt]

At least she have "preloaded" volley

[limber pulsar]

This ^

[whole crypt]

well not only

we have plenty of preload ships there's nothing special about seydlitz for PvE

[sterile jolt]

Ofc

[limber pulsar]

UvH, BZ, FdG

[whole crypt]

they're not preload ships

[limber pulsar]

Wait uvh doesn't have preload

[late flame]

she doesnt

[dreamy blade]

most french BBs have one

[steep sleet]

[hushed sorrel]

which equip do you recommend?

[wind hazel]

la9 tenrai tb

[sterile jolt]

Dont really care about vanguard equipment, so whatever you want.

[wind hazel]

[late flame]

mine was something like this (lazy to tweak lol)

[wind hazel]

x2

[weak moat]

is the event meta unit worth getting?

[soft osprey]

who should I prioritize for the UR bulins now?

[undone plover]

Yes she is rld tech at 120
And she is basically free (doesnt need cubes)
Get her from map drop or shop

[dreamy blade]

what URs do you have mlb? just laffii?

[soft osprey]

no, trafalgar, vanguard, lion, implacable, musashi, raffaello and kronshtadt

rest are MLB, Shipyard or not ur

[dreamy blade]

huh, but those are your non mlb ships

you mean you have every other UR besides those at mlb?

[native robin]

champagne good bro?

[blissful marlin]

Does anyone know how to fix the problem where it won’t let me donate coins for my dev level and only lets me use my bp so I cannot do the daily free points

[dreamy blade]

good 120 tech

[dreamy blade]

hindenburg isnt coinable

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#Enhancing_with_Coins

[blissful marlin]

Ah ok thanks was confused

[native robin]

what do you mean by 120 tech?

[dreamy blade]

only the ones that have a coin on the bp icon here are coinable

[blissful marlin]

Tyvm

[dreamy blade]

when you level ships to 120 they give stat buffs to other mlb ships of the same hulltype, champagne gives BB +HIT

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#tabber-tabpanel-BC/BB/BBV-1

[warm trail]

Why do i need to keep these useless ships?

[dreamy blade]

yorktown, hornet, QE, glorious have important 120 tech

[cobalt rapids]

aurora 💀

[dreamy blade]

and yeah aurora and nelson (retrofit) are just good ships

[native robin]

I see

[cobalt rapids]

aurora is most often best in slot against dd and cl bosses

[warm trail]

others i can scrap?

[dreamy blade]

is buying more dock space not an option

[warm trail]

i can too

[dreamy blade]

if you are f2p all your gems go to dock space, after unlocking the 2nd floor of the dorm

[sterile jolt]

Trafalgar power creep her alr, so not important

[warm trail]

wait, am i supposed to raise a single copy to max lvl at least?

[dreamy blade]

you dont have to but that is mostly what "endgame" consists of, raising ships to 120 for tech bonuses

[warm trail]

ahhh

[cobalt rapids]

dont think so

[warm trail]

can u show me ur dockspace?

[dreamy blade]

i started playing in october last year and am currently at 400, you can also get more dock space from the guild tech

[warm trail]

ayo what? free dockspace on guild shop?

[dreamy blade]

not guild shop, in the actual guild theres a menu you can buy dock space with coins+guild tokens

[native robin]

100+ dock space?

[warm trail]

holy cow

[dreamy blade]

it's only 20 slots but it's free

[tame jungle]

30

[whole crypt]

guild dock max is 30 now

[warm trail]

$20 is $20

[dreamy blade]

oh gg my guild just sucks

[warm trail]

any guild lvl requirement?

[zinc flower]

Guys is it possible to get 300 UR currency without buying any of it?

[whole crypt]

guild lv is kind of irrelevant because it stops at 10 rather quickly for any decently sized and active guild

if your guild doesn't have it either it's too new or you don't have enough active players

[warm trail]

ahh,

[dreamy blade]

also some of those ships have rewards for getting them mlb or partially lb
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Collections#List_of_Collections

[warm trail]

okay

[whole crypt]

also they're not completely useless, they offer tech if you bother with it as a minmax mechanic

[warm trail]

is there also a list of ships that needs to be kept for tech points?

[warm trail]

do all ship offer tech

[whole crypt]

all non-collab non-alt (muse/child) ships give tech https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[dreamy blade]

almost all of them, notably child ships dont have any tech but also collab and muse

[zinc flower]

Ok so it's not

[whole crypt]

if you wait till end of event you won't need much vouchers for 2nd copy

[dreamy blade]

i think you have to buy at least 50

[warm trail]

child ships like literally child looking?

[dreamy blade]

yes the ones that are child variants of existing ships named "little X" or "x-chan"

[warm trail]

ohh

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Little_Bel
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Belfast

[warm trail]

uwahh look at this cinnamon

[zinc flower]

Guys does agïr not have fate simulation?

[whole crypt]

not yet

[dreamy blade]

she does not

[slender linden]

Can I put Ryusei on this

[whole crypt]

you can but whether you should is a different matter

[cobalt rapids]

not mlb so u better sleep on that thing

[slender linden]

[zinc flower]

Anyone know what i should buy here?

[slender linden]

Where do you use it if you have converging torps then? Opsi?

[slender linden]

I always buy the gold and black shell and rainbow torp there

[whole crypt]

generally speaking single target bosses like abyssal/arbiter/showdowns and CM

[slender linden]

Or planes and guns sometimes

[cobalt rapids]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[warm trail]

how many white and black shells do i need for 2 fleets?

[whole crypt]

you don't usually need more than 3 sets, for a single BB fleet

[slender linden]

Thanks I’ll keep that in mind

[soft osprey]

other urs i have are mlb

[warm trail]

6 all in all?

[whole crypt]

campaign you don't use more than 3 most of the time, and OS you can just swap

[dreamy blade]

then implac first, probably lion after

[whole crypt]

3 white and 3 black yes

[soft osprey]

ty

[warm trail]

oke

[zinc flower]

So i should be running through these on my BBs?

[whole crypt]

if you don't already have the shells sure
ideally you also want a yellow shell for Lion

[cobalt rapids]

you really dont

[zinc flower]

Shi if i knew way sooner

Ok y'all are confusing me now

[cobalt rapids]

just get 3 white shells and 1-2 blackshells for starters then buy other important coredata stuff from the list above

[opaque gate]

is lion better in comparison to other bb UR?

[cobalt rapids]

top dmg

[opaque gate]

oooooh thanks, how about trafalgar?

cuz i have Z52, and idk if i should switch

[cobalt rapids]

has good dmg support

[opaque gate]

thank you!

[zinc flower]

Im confused on the 1-2 blackshells. Why not 3?

[cobalt rapids]

z52 is better for campaign
traff is better for buffing the fleet ( unless its 3cv )
z52 is tankier

[opaque gate]

i see, thanks!

dang iron blood ships are getting powercrept now

[cobalt rapids]

because they will be cycled out with radars and the standard bb combo is white shell + radar ( or rainbow table )
blackshells end up being used only for syncing later on if needed

[worldly pewter]

u didn't notice the skill levels too

[zinc flower]

This?

[warm trail]

Buildable what

[cobalt rapids]

no, these

[normal cedar]

what are the standard1:1 low cost 12-4 fleets?

[zinc flower]

Good thing you told me cuz i can make one. How many of these should i try to get?

[opaque gate]

is it worth pulling for lion more even if i got her already? or should i just save cubes

[cobalt rapids]

at least 3

[worldly pewter]

why would anyone in this earth low cost 12-4

[cobalt rapids]

and btw this is the difference between yellow shell and white shell and ure paying 800 coredata for an equip thats restricted to hms only and not even mentioning the +13 cost

[normal cedar]

to get more coins per oil? you dont farm exp on 12-4 so its fine to lowcost?

[zinc flower]

Damn that's barely anything

[cobalt rapids]

exactly

[tranquil dagger]

Why is FdG so valued from research?

[forest palm]

relatively cheap and very strong UR BB to own

[cobalt rapids]

top 3 mobber pre w15 for campaign and strong BB option all around
rly only not relevant for ppl with rainbow bb dock

[zinc flower]

Btw you said to buy other important things from the core shop, but the list says the green highlighted gear is niche and that i should do research before buying

[tranquil dagger]

That being said, might as well yoink her since I only have 1 rainbow BB

[worldly pewter]

buy whatever u need from there but there are stuff that u might benefit more than others

[dreamy blade]

but you do farm exp on 12-4 the reason it's more popular than 12-1 despite being less xp efficient is bc of the coins

[zinc flower]

Idk anything about gear, so i don't exactly know what i need

[sterile jolt]

Wtf are you talking about? You can farm exp in 12-4, it's more effective to farm 12-4 cuz you have exp AND coins per run.

[cobalt rapids]

basically research means
ddg gear : if ure at the point where ure retroing a ddg
sub gear : if ure at point where ure investing in subs ( so w14/w15 )
cv timing aux gear : i would buy after shells and indep 1-2 of each because they are helpful
breguette is for campaign mostly once again so w14/15
its a fast golden cuda with intercept and helps with stagger
the other stuff is lower prio and its more niche

[normal cedar]

oh damn, i thought everyone farmed 11-1/12-1 for exp and only lowcosted 12-4/13-4
thanks for telling me

[sterile jolt]

Theres no reasons to go for low cost strategies when you have not max lvl ships, like 650+ in this game

[dreamy blade]

theres really no reason to farm 11-1 when 12-1 is easier

[whole crypt]

don't pull for dupes

[sterile jolt]

Also, you can farm in 13-4 if your fleet is allow you to do this,

[worldly pewter]

i have no idea from where u got the idea of low costing 13-4

[sterile jolt]

From...here?))) cuz we tested 13-1 low cost 1:1, but theres no really important reasons to do this stuff xd

[dreamy blade]

low costing is mostly for maps without oil cap like event stages and is kindof a waste if you still have ships that need xp

[worldly pewter]

low costing 13-1 for a marginal cog gain when u are done with exp
what about 13-4 ?

[dreamy blade]

for example the daily SP since theres no oil cap you can try to cut costs if you can get away with it

[sterile jolt]

13-4 is kinda difficult to farm 1:1 honestly

[raw ravine]

is this any good? got a bunch of them grinding daily d3. I just started out not long ago but have a bunch of mk6

[worldly pewter]

is it possible to low cost it ?

[sterile jolt]

2:1 maybe

[normal cedar]

i see, ig no need to think of lowcosting then for me, thanks for telling me

i thought 13-4 might have been possible since I saw someone here low cost world 13 hard

[fair phoenix]

After Lion?

[dreamy blade]

low costing hard is possible bc you just have to kill the boss fleet

and definitely not past 13-1 i imagine

[sterile jolt]

W13 hard lowcost is such copium way to farm, idk

[opaque gate]

ok, cuz i already pulled like another dupe rip cubes

[undone plover]

No one mentioned this but low costing doesnt even give you gold on oil cap maps
Since the gold u get is tied to the average oil u spend I think

Ppl (crazies) low cost 13-1 for cog chips
And u low cost events
But low costing oil cap maps should not be done
At least not for gold or xp

[dreamy blade]

the main reason to lowcost for someone like you is to blitz through the first stages of an event since those are like lv40 or w/e

[opaque gate]

should i not go lowcost when farming event stage?

[sterile jolt]

D3 only

[dreamy blade]

not on d3 since theres oil cap

[opaque gate]

okok cuz im trying to lowcost on D3 lol, thanks

[normal cedar]

oh i see, didnt know that
so using a full ur fleet will give max gold?

[dreamy blade]

ppl who lowcost farm event do stuff like 1:1 on b3

[worldly pewter]

there are different ways to low cost events

[undone plover]

Hitting the oil cap gives the max gold

U dont need full UR to hit the oil cap

[opaque gate]

are rosen emblems included?

[whole crypt]

if you want to low cost you want to 0LB B1/B3
if you're running D3 you might as well max fleet to XP

[undone plover]

We low costed d3 yorkii event for hvar print farm
But even that was for ppl who did not have oil and wanted to farm extreme amounts of prints

[dreamy blade]

between the villa and the new rookie missions i accidentally claimed too much oil so it's funny to me that you are trying to lowcost anything rn

[undone plover]

Some ppl want to min:max always

[whole crypt]

you're just not spending fast enough

[worldly pewter]

i play every stage in 12-4 and d3 with help and still overcapped on oil

[undone plover]

But are u logged in and grinding 24/7

[sterile jolt]

[normal cedar]

ohh damn
so to lowcost event b3, whats tje minimum number of ur ships in crossfleet needed?

[whole crypt]

[worldly pewter]

how many do u have in the depot ?

[dreamy blade]

the more crossfleet and gear you can give, the more you can get away with

[undone plover]

I am honestly not sure about that
I would think musashi is required since the boss node is hard without her x-fleet

[sterile jolt]

3

[undone plover]

But maybe 5 oil with double mahan and ranger is doable with minimal x-fleet

[sterile jolt]

Ive missed the first y2 event when droprate was broken

[elfin hollow]

Are the any guides on the research tab / gear lab / operation siren
Because honestly I have no clue how all that works

[dreamy blade]

and assuming you can gear them up as well

[dreamy blade]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[worldly pewter]

there are research effieciency
gear lab priorities
opsi is just a game mod where u most of the time just use the mob fleet

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks

[dreamy blade]

afaik there isnt really a comprehensive opsi guide, you just clear the map every month and do all your loggers/arbiters/strongholds/etc

[undone plover]

for opsi try and clear story before month is over if u have not already
then clear every icon on the map
for gear lab prio ask when neko is around

well craft wyvern and junker87 TB is the prio I think

[worldly pewter]

doesn't he need to understand opsi before going to the gear lab

[dreamy blade]

basically you can just ignore gear lab until after you finish your first month of opsi

[undone plover]

better to know both beforehand

[worldly pewter]

it just sounds a little bit overwhelming to try and understand everything at once

[sterile jolt]

Bagura still want to understand the whole game in this channel

[whole crypt]

biggest problem starting OS is the annoying story maps and lack of autosearch

[zinc flower]

So do i need to get her to dev 30 to use her or?

[sterile jolt]

Or need to say... Overundestand?

[dreamy blade]

you can start sortieing her to level her up once shes d25

[worldly pewter]

how old is this account ?

[zinc flower]

I have these should i use any?

[undone plover]

no keep them for their respective seasons
so use 5 on 5
6 on 6
etc

[sterile jolt]

No need while you can just use coins

[zinc flower]

Yeah but this speeds it up by a lot so i thought i'd ask

[undone plover]

honestly using 5 for 4 might actually be the better play
u can also keep these to maximize protocore
at least the 5 series ones

[zinc flower]

So am i using em or nah?

[undone plover]

do u want to maximize your protocore later?

[worldly pewter]

protocore are important early on

[dreamy blade]

if you want to finish her faster then spend more coins

[undone plover]

if u maximize protocore using pr1-3 catchup then u probably dont need to hoard these and u can use them on anchorage
the V series ones
save VI for VI
and save VII for series VII later

[zinc flower]

See the thing is idk what maximizing protocores is

[undone plover]

open your prototype shop
u will see a lot of shiny weapons
and useful blueprints for end game gear

[zinc flower]

Yeah ik what protocores are

I just don't know what you mean by maximizing them

[worldly pewter]

then u need to know how u get them

[dreamy blade]

minmaxing is saving your catchup in research for ships you use coins to get to dev30, so you can convert the bps from catchup into protocore

[zinc flower]

Isn't it by using blue prints of dev 30 ships?

[winter quartz]

Let's say I got clapped in OS, but the thing that clapped me is the last mob on the map. Can I enter another zone to kill a mob to remove debuff or will the first one close in that case?

[cloud fractal]

I’ve been a little out of touch in this chat. Have we decided whether Traf and Lion are worth building, generally speaking?

[undone plover]

basically catchup and selector blueprints can be used for this
boomers also just have a lot of excess prints but if u are not a boomer then I recommend you min-max protocore
if u min-max with pr1-3 (including azuma and drake catchup) then u probably dont need more
and in that case u can use the later seasons to finish the ships faster and not for protocore

[cobalt rapids]

top bb dmg and great fleet buffer

[sterile jolt]

Buffer for royal navy in first, but yeah

[dreamy blade]

developing and coining DR ships to dev30 for protocore that is certainly a minmax

[cobalt rapids]

well

[worldly pewter]

heal then fight a c1 mob

[cobalt rapids]

both azuma and drake are better used on protocores

[undone plover]

if u want shiny rainbow gear sacrifices must be made

[winter quartz]

I was told to set to dr5, pick roon in research and forget about it. I also got 150 Brest blueprints on the first part. I feel like I'm pretty much min-maxing

[undone plover]

u are not min-maxing yet but u didnt brick your catchup for protocore which is good

[dreamy blade]

i used my pr1-5 catchup on protocore but i havent even begun developing drake

[undone plover]

werent u complaining about a lot of oil?
sounds like we found an outlet for all that oil

[dreamy blade]

currently getting champagne for bb hit tech will consider drake next i suppose

[undone plover]

DR catchup gives 3k protocore fwiw
and PR catchup 1500
DR is the better but more painful method to get protocore

[worldly pewter]

using pr4 and 5 for proto is a waste of time especially 4

[sterile jolt]

Pr3 for usefull ships? Nah, no ways
Pr3 for tech stats: thats my way

[dreamy blade]

pr4 sure but pr5 isnt that useful

[undone plover]

it is fine
like I said if u use pr1-3 u get more than enough protocore for all the gear

[dreamy blade]

idk why you would want to rush harbin or chkalov instead of coining them and getting protocore

[undone plover]

because rushing them with catchup means more plymouth prints and finishing the season faster overall

but again both strats are valid

[zinc flower]

So for example i do catchup for monarch or st louis and convert the blueprints to protocores? And then do that with other pr ships?

[dreamy blade]

i finished ply before any of the pr ships

[sterile jolt]

Ply is worth it

[undone plover]

yes pretty much
make sure the other ships are also at least dev30
if u use catchup before they are dev30 then u have to use the blueprint and u cant analyze them

[dreamy blade]

if you still have your p1 catchup available yes

[zinc flower]

I have like 40 prints available

Also have this

[undone plover]

and like I said it is up to you how much u want to min-max
some ppl do it with all the seasons but I find pr1-3 enough

[cobalt rapids]

dont turn non coinable blanks imo

[undone plover]

yes I agree

[zinc flower]

Pr 1-3 already looks like it's gonna take me 7 years so im good on doing more

[opaque gate]

is the UR gun good? or disappointing likr yamato gun

[worldly pewter]

at most 6 months

[undone plover]

it is actually not that bad
u need ~34 days to max a ship with coin
so think of it as a monthly thing you do
altho u should coin useful ships first for example anchorage and AvP (if u lack implacable) and pr5 if u are on pr5 focus
then u can think about previous seasons and protocore

[sterile jolt]

From where yamato gun is disappointing?.... But yeah, better mk7 gun

[opaque gate]

is yamato gun good now? cuz wasnt it very niche?

[undone plover]

it is probably a bit better due to mixed fleets being more of a thing now with alsace and soyuz

[zinc flower]

Wait will i get enough protocores if i only have like 30 blueprints available for pr1 catch up instead of 300?

[undone plover]

also more yammie guns means better syncs together
probably still niche (and hella expensive)

[sterile jolt]

Yamato gun was always valuable in some cases

[opaque gate]

cuz i remember people here suggesting me not to usre yamato

[undone plover]

every PR print u analyze = 5 protocore
evert DR print = 20 protocore

[opaque gate]

i see

[worldly pewter]

niche doesn't mean disappointing too

[cobalt rapids]

pr1-3 4500 + rookies (5600) is 10100
tenrai + 2 champy + 1 flan is 4125
plygun is anothe 3k and u cannot even afford the 457 at this point
not to mention the other rainbow gear and s4 gear that u might want for people who skip pr4

[undone plover]

azuma + drake 6k doko

[opaque gate]

yee, but disappointing is subjective, I dont have something to use it before so i found it quite disappointing

[cobalt rapids]

u meant with drs
but even then

[sterile jolt]

You do you

[zinc flower]

Man wdym 6 months this is definitely gonna take me 2 years minimum

[opaque gate]

but good to hear it is getting better, cuz i wanna use it for my musashi

[zinc flower]

Coining ships to 30 alone takes me a long ass time

[worldly pewter]

i was able to get everything with pr2-3 catchups with drs excluding fdg
but now we are recommending getting pr4 gear with proto too

[undone plover]

usually by the time u finish these a new season rookie mission is released + catchup for a later season u already hard researched
which is an extra 7500 protocore

[dreamy blade]

is there some historical reason it's called the yamato gun and not the musashi gun like other guns that released with certain ships

[viscid swift]

Yamato was the lead ship of the class

[undone plover]

probably similar to JN/Iowa gun
since the lead ship of the class is iowa/yamato

[opaque gate]

ironically, there is still no yamato, i rlly want her soon

[dreamy blade]

[worldly pewter]

the idea is
coin a pr2 ship 1 month
coin a pr3 ship 1 month
coin drake 2 months
coin azuma 2 months
6 months and u get 9k proto

[opaque gate]

is there like a tip to free dock space? cuz it is annoying to keep retiring ships (ihave 7 spaces left). Are there ships worth retiring already? cuz i heard i should keep at least one ship

[undone plover]

only free dock space is from guild tech

[sterile jolt]

Buy dock slots

[undone plover]

oh my bad I read that wrong

[worldly pewter]

and the main chapter gems

[sterile jolt]

Like, there is no way to do more f2p

[opaque gate]

rip, thank u!

[worldly pewter]

commissions and anni gems too

[undone plover]

we got gems recently from the forced app update
and this anni is another 800

[worldly pewter]

i have 500 slots with 4 dorm slots in 1.5 years

[opaque gate]

i usually stop playing when it matters fml

[zinc flower]

Yeah but there's still the time consumed in developing these ships, and does the catchup thing take less time than the coining?

[undone plover]

catchup is probably ~15-20/day?
so maybe 10-15 days to get all 300

[zinc flower]

Oh yeah is it also worth stopping the development of pr5/6/7 ships to do this whole process?

[worldly pewter]

i didn't include the fact that u can coin a pr and dr at the same time

[cobalt rapids]

if they are far from usable dev lvls yes

[undone plover]

the idea is to have a ship ready to coin before u finish the one u are coining
so for example when your AvP is ~dev 25 start working on the next ship u will coin like anchorage etc

[cobalt rapids]

well pr5 is coinable so ull have to pick ur poison

[worldly pewter]

when should we advise people to completely ignore pr5 until its coining ?

[undone plover]

~~wdym neko is already doing that ~~

[cobalt rapids]

check appendix a in the handbook guide

[zinc flower]

Oh so you meant i use this to get anchorage blueprints now while i coin her, and then convert them to protocores when she hits dev 30

[undone plover]

not now
if u use them now u wont be able to coin her
u would have to use them before u can coin her again

[cobalt rapids]

u only convert/start catchup when the ship is already d30 otherwise u cannot turn them to protocores and ull be forced to use the prints even if the ship is coinable

[worldly pewter]

yeah the game prioritizes the prints over the coins

[undone plover]

your choice with these is
use them for protocore (convert to a dev30 ship for example monarch and convert to protocore)
use them to speedup anchorage
use them to speedup a pr5 gold ship (which is only better than anchorage if u are on pr5 focus and havent finished the season yet)

[zinc flower]

So if i do this then i can skip doing the pr2/pr3 ship right? Since she's already dev 20 it 's gonna be faster than developing a pr2/3 then coining to 30

[undone plover]

i think we are getting a bit confused now
are you trying to finish anchorage asap or get more protocore?

because if u want protocore just convert those prints to monarch since your monarch was FS5

i assume he is asking about the blanks neko

[zinc flower]

Ok but what about doing the anchorage catchup? Isn't that faster?

[worldly pewter]

imo using anchorage catchup is fine to accelerate the coining

but that if u are active in unlocking more ships

[steep vortex]

[undone plover]

faster to finish anchorage yes
and I recommend you do it cuz anchorage is a crucial tank early on and u want her online as soon as possible
and the 1500 protocore u get from not using her catchup imo is not needed

[steep vortex]

Quick question how do I get the second star lol

[cobalt rapids]

disable clearing mode

[worldly pewter]

off

[steep vortex]

Anything else?

I should know about hard mode

[cobalt rapids]

i recommend quitting before killing the boss to not waste hm attempts

[zinc flower]

That works ig, but i'll still probably finish hindenburg before i start doing this whole operation bc i like her

[steep vortex]

Oki...

[undone plover]

farm the node for the specific retro print u need
x-1 gives DD
x-2 gives cruiser
x-3 gives BB
x-4 gives CV prints
so for example if u want to retrofit unicorn farm an x-4 map

[narrow temple]

i want to play lion that i just got who i should remove the least i dont need

[cobalt rapids]

preferably in w3 or higher to have a chance at gold prints

[steep vortex]

Where those?

[worldly pewter]

sad but true
better to forget about pr6 if u care about meta

[undone plover]

u see u are on 1-1 now
try and 3 star all ch3 maps in easy mode then farm 3-4 in hard mode

[cobalt rapids]

what content
and a bunch of non mlb ships is not good

[zinc flower]

Doesn't that just mean it's gonna take a little longer? I'll just start doing it after i develop hindenburg which shouldn't take long at all

[narrow temple]

farming story untill i reach level 50

[steep vortex]

Oki I'll slowly get there lol^^

[undone plover]

if u want hindenburg first that is fine u can go for her
are u actively coining anyone at the moment?
gold ship or DR ship

[steep vortex]

Ty so much teacher!!

[zinc flower]

Rn only anchorage. I finished coining agïr today but i had no clue about the whole minmaxing thing

[narrow temple]

im too lazy to actually learn how to play good just say who is most useless in my team lol

[worldly pewter]

lets honestly face it
going for hindy will be a massive slowdown to the shipyard progression

[undone plover]

then that is fine if u want to get hindenburg for secretary slot
but try and finish another gold ship before anchorage coining is complete

[cobalt rapids]

are u a newbie? one fleeting ?
fleet needs unicorn
u can replace hiei with lion (i cant see her stars ) but lion at lb2 will be better regardless
lion unicorn ryuuhou - fc helena nana

[undone plover]

not necessarily
u can take detours to develop waifu if u have other ships already coining

[cobalt rapids]

if hiei is mlb then kick formi and ryuuhou

[zinc flower]

Im guessing it doesn't matter what gold pr2/3 i finish right?

[narrow temple]

i will pull more copies for sure

[cobalt rapids]

dont need to pull more copies
mlb her with UR bulins

[narrow temple]

what mlb means ?

[cobalt rapids]

max limit break ( max stars )

[undone plover]

not really but odin and champagne are the best tech in pr3
and cheshire is usable for her AA

[worldly pewter]

u know that i still don't have a chance to even cube pr6 ? still searching for a window

[narrow temple]

you meant limit break?

[undone plover]

I recommend u develop FdG/hakuryuu before hindenburg if u finished coining agir so u have someone to coin btw @zinc flower
but it is also fine to play the game at your own poce
and coining DR can be expensive so if u want to chill for now that is fine

[undone plover]

u can have hindenburg for secretary slot
she doesnt need to be dev30 for that

[cobalt rapids]

yes max limit break

[narrow temple]

ah ok

im not good with this words shortcuts

[worldly pewter]

yeah i meant dev30
unlocking the ships isn't important

[eager marsh]

so glorious meta actually drops from d3? I regret not reading and bought her

[undone plover]

yeah sadly pr6 is always on the backfoot these days
we will see after pr8 what the situation is like

[elfin hollow]

does anyone have any suggestions for a low oil D3 fleet? am running low

[undone plover]

yes the 0.5% gacha ship always drops in b3,d3,SP and is also in shop

[spring basin]

if i have a non-max lmb ship in my fleet for pr combat data and her exp cap is zero is she not helping towards the data collection ?

[warped acorn]

which one should i buy

[zinc flower]

I was planning on doing hakuryuu eventually so ig that works, but hindenburg should take no time cuz im doing the pr 6 data pack missions, so her 2nd xp mission should be finished instantly

[worldly pewter]

take a rest and come back later
the event is still in its first week

[undone plover]

just chill and farm when your oil is better
low oiling D3 is not recommended

[undone plover]

spec core and gold bulins
Sandy/sirius from CL
u96 from SS

[cobalt rapids]

sandy>sirius and bulins
u can get 96 aswell

[undone plover]

spec core the most important

[worldly pewter]

that is more than that he has

[elfin hollow]

fair! I guess I just like farming too much lol

[exotic wren]

Ouh, that 2k spec core doesn't count on the 5k monthly doesn't it

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt

[worldly pewter]

a smol hint
try to farm when the ships are at at least 140 moral

[warped acorn]

nice guess another ur bulin

[elfin hollow]

uve got them in the sauna and the 2nd floor dorm, their moral is through the roof!

[worldly pewter]

so sorting them at 140 moral and still down on oil that is some very dedicated gameplay time

u can do opsi meanwhile i guess

[undone plover]

/prgrind
I recommend u dont farm with capped ships tho

[elfin hollow]

The radar I'm stationed at gives me a lot of spare time while on duty lol

[exotic wren]

So uh we get 33(?) purins/year now?

[undone plover]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[elfin hollow]

I have no clue how opsi works is scary

[undone plover]

@spring basin

[hardy creek]

Is Helena worth to 125?

[exotic wren]

Clear story, kill boss monthly, do strongholds, and go auto on maps

[undone plover]

on the min/maxing protocore front
use those data packs for protocore
using them for xp is

[worldly pewter]

1- enter the game mode 2- put ur mobbing fleet there 3- do the missions that u find in the information tab

[exotic wren]

Yes but not prio, go backline > frontline

[cobalt rapids]

2 per month from spec core, 1 every 2 months from cruise pass
1 from UR events and reruns
so abit more

[elfin hollow]

[narrow temple]

how to get ur bulin ?

[undone plover]

read two msges above

[exotic wren]

Oh right cruise is 2 months, I counted 3

[zinc flower]

You telling me i can convert allat? Then does that reduce the amount of ships i need to coin for protocores?

[exotic wren]

That's just CDC exp? Won't affect the number of coining you'd do does it?

[undone plover]

it kind of doesnt because we assume u convert all these to protocore
neko did some calcs let me see if I can find them so u get a better picture

[narrow temple]

i still dont get it so i get her from events?

[mellow cape]

Best vg for lion, naki, and Soyuz?

[undone plover]

read this to get a better idea what I mean

[zinc flower]

Ok instead of asking how many ships, how many protocores in total to i need again?

[deft creek]

Hello everyone, I've been playing since last September, and in this update, when L2D skins appear, the game freezes, I played from my phone, I didn't find a solution, I downloaded the emulator, the same thing.

[worldly pewter]

ply with 2 others

[zinc flower]

Yeah i still don't really get it

[fierce condor]

How do i unlock sp in the event

[undone plover]

I would say 2x champy gun 1 flan gun 3 bf109 2 saiun kai (3000 protocore)
then 3000 for each UR gear
tenrai + georgie gun is the most necesssary (assuming u get 1 plymouth gun from pr5 focus) (6000 protocore)
so minimum required protocore imo is 9000 for someone who starts on pr5 focus
but if u want more shiny gear then better min-max a bit more
3000 per shiny gear

[cobalt rapids]

4125 for the ap bb guns and tenrai which is the bare minimum
another 6k for plygun and 457 which are good QoL gear to have
another 2kish for pr4 gear that u might have skipped like 2 bf109, 2 saiuns and 1 aegir gun to cut down on opsi grind
and then hinden>drake gun last if ure rly rich and afford the luxury

[rigid onyx]

what armor type is ex

[sterile jolt]

Heavy

[undone plover]

neko u counted tenrai twice u probably meant georgia gun nvm

[mellow cape]

Any recs??

[cobalt rapids]

and la9 will hit the shop next year aswell

[mellow cape]

4th fleet is a light armor habriter obliterator but I'm having trouble filling out 2 and 3

[undone plover]

and u seem to be a hindenburg fan so u want to grab her gun from shop as well so add 3k

[sterile jolt]

Hom much years do you play this game?... Just put what you want, or crossfleet BB-s

[mellow cape]

Years lol, probably doesn't matter but I like to be coherent

[undone plover]

i personally prefer soyuz/neko/fritz
then other fleet can be zwei/alsace/lion

[zinc flower]

Ok i don't know what exactly the champy/flan or any of those guns ngl

[forest palm]

Lion's already in the second fleet

[vale flicker]

how to get those pink gems?

[undone plover]

which season is your focus in research academy let me just ask this while we are at it

[mellow cape]

I could do fritz tbh, I just don't have enough la9s to fully spec fritz yet

[sterile jolt]

Pink?... Where?...

[forest palm]

pretty sure Lion ends up better than Fritz on paper

[cobalt rapids]

left is flan right is champy

[vale flicker]

hoyl im blind

[undone plover]

u get them from these ? prints in the proto shop

[zinc flower]

This?

[undone plover]

yes u are on pr5 focus that is good

I recommend u buy 20 of this this month
and 20 next month
and then 10 after that for total 50 to craft 2 champy guns

[zinc flower]

Im focusing on these before the rainbow guns?

[undone plover]

I would yes

[zinc flower]

Ok and just to make sure im converting all the data packs from 1-3 to protocores right?

[undone plover]

all data packs from any season
and catchup from season 1-3 (exception FdG - use her catchup on her)

[zinc flower]

My FdG is maxed

[undone plover]

that is good then

[eager marsh]

should i get u-81 to complete the trio?

[exotic wren]

What's the prio for cores after shells and snorkel/sub plans again? Was it Blackburn?

[cobalt rapids]

from the invitation ? sure

[undone plover]

Amaso help :murmlove:

[forest palm]

as of right now U-81 is a more essential piece for top German Sub fleets

so if you want to do that then you should get U-81

[eager marsh]

[forest palm]

she's also the bigger pain in the ass to get

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message
@cobalt rapids

[elder grove]

come on this is the 2nd time in 24hours my game just froze

they need a pc client ffs

[forest palm]

this isn't #al-general

[hollow gust]

You think PC client fixes server connection lmao ???

[sterile jolt]

Is it server connection issues?

[forest palm]

this isn't server connection though? this is literally the game freezing...what?

[undone plover]

just direct them to #tech-support
what is with the snark

[forest palm]

game hard froze must be connection issue, and no other contributing factors at all nope

[sterile jolt]

No. In emulator it is a usual story after big patch

[forest palm]

sarcasm buddy

[tawdry halo]

Which one is better for Kazan?

[forest palm]

Mk6 is generally better

[elder grove]

I have internet connection, the game just froze

[sterile jolt]

This isn't sarcasm channel

[undone plover]

ppl have been having issues with the game after the update
I recommend you check #tech-support if u want useful advice instead of ppl making fun of you

[hollow gust]

If you open the debug menu it's more often connection then anything else. Not to mention AL's code just sucks, PC client won't fix anything

[tawdry halo]

DPM?

[hollow gust]

No that gold gun is just trash

[tawdry halo]

Assuming that I could get the twin 380 to +8

[hollow gust]

You can max it and it will stay trash

[forest palm]

the Twin 380 is just a bad gun no matter how much you enhance it

[fierce condor]

Can anyone tell me how i can open the sp stage bc its still locked even tho i 3 stared everything

[tawdry halo]

How good is this comparing to purple 406 mk.6

[hollow gust]

Go to B3 click hardmode D3 and clear that first

[tawdry halo]

Pain

[hollow gust]

That's a much better gun yes

[tawdry halo]

First ever rainbow equipment

[hollow gust]

Most free gold BB guns are shit, only gear lab, event and Pr ones are good

[tawdry halo]

So is this purple gun even better than the 380

[undone plover]

<@&472236072743600148>

[hushed delta]

one is HE, the other is AP

[sterile jolt]

One is ap, one is he, they are just different

[cobalt rapids]

u would never use the gun on the right

[whole crypt]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV18nJ7zhEEQ/ wtf lol is that a bug or something

[tawdry halo]

[hushed delta]

well is a fast gun, it's good for barrage proc until they get the Georgia gun

[soft raft]

it's only like .1s faster than the Twin 410 in exchange for 68 less damage
barely sounds worth the tradeoff

[tawdry halo]

Georgia gun?

[cobalt rapids]

twin 457

[tawdry halo]

May I see its icon

[slender linden]

should i build Ranger for a low cost fleet

[undone plover]

up to you
if u are a new player then no

[hollow gust]

whats the point oif low cost fleet

[cobalt rapids]

save oil on events

[whole crypt]

do you know what you're doing with said low cost fleet
if not don't bother

[slender linden]

I kinda need one when farming for gold

[undone plover]

there is no low cost that helps with gold
low cost indirectly helps with gold by saving oil on event which can then be used in 12-4 13-4 for gold
but u lose xp by doing this which is not good for a new player

[whole crypt]

you don't farm gold with low cost fleets

[hollow gust]

the amount og goldd correlates with the amount of oil you spend

you want to hit the oil cap intentioally

[soft raft]

what world are you on btw

[honest flower]

guys, how do i make the balls join?

[plain saffron]

Technically low oil still more coins per oil iirc

[slender linden]

13 somewhere

[soft raft]

then you have absolutely zero reason to try and low-cost grind
just spam full fleets

[slender linden]

I got tired of clearing the stages at some point

[whole crypt]

that's not the point though, if you want coins you just grind in 12/13 with oil cap

[tawdry halo]

Drop a ball on top

[soft raft]

Wut
you can just set the game to run 3 runs back to back and have that run in the backround while you do other stuff

How can you get tired of that?

[undone plover]

less than 13-4 and ~12-4 level iirc

[slender linden]

you cant reapeat sortie without having it 100% cleared

[plain saffron]

I mean as in low oiling those stage

I don't remember who tested it before

[undone plover]

u mean low oil on oilcap?

[whole crypt]

if you're up to ch13 just repeat 12-4 which will definitely be 100%

[plain saffron]

Yeah, even with low clearing rewards it's still more coins per oil

[elfin hollow]

TIL operation siren does not use oil

[undone plover]

I think I tested and it was similar but I could be misremembering

but I can see more run > more drops > more gold from retiring

[rigid onyx]

low cost farming for anything other than event points isnt only super tedious but also just worse than running 12-4

[whole crypt]

I remember it was just something like a bit more because you also get more runs with the same oil then you get more drops for scrapping, and in essence it's not worth the trouble and not worth wasting XP

[undone plover]

makes sense

[plain saffron]

But cogs

[whole crypt]

help how to make OS ch1 faster

[rigid onyx]

I think michita is meta for c1

[cobalt rapids]

is the 3s fleet not fast enough ?

its algerie meta feat on dmg hp barrage

[jaunty vault]

What’s the 3s fleet

[whole crypt]

not corrosion 1, chapter 1

[cobalt rapids]

fdg and algm and stuff idr

[plain saffron]

Read faster

[whole crypt]

I'm being reminded how tedious OS was before auto happened

[sterile jolt]

Forgot it like a bad dream

[jaunty vault]

Bad dreams stick around for life

[forest palm]

at least we don't have fog every other map

[whole crypt]

so did anyone here manage to get up to saratoga for the minigame

[wind hazel]

https://vxb23.tv/LULwvqq

double sara broke the game

[warped acorn]

so inspiring vid

[faint cloud]

i used this bug but still can get over 800k and second sara

[woven rain]

Meta count to collect % too?

[whole crypt]

well bug

no idea how it works

[wind hazel]

i will abuse it now

jk mod i am not a bug abuser

[whole crypt]

I don't think they care much about the minigame lol

[plain saffron]

Damnsm sara

[south sequoia]

Im running laffii mog z52 for my opsi mob should i replace any1 with trafalgar

[hollow gust]

Why use op buffer for mob

[south sequoia]

Ah

Err

Who should traffy be ideally with

Bb?

[hollow gust]

Both trafalgar and z52 should be with your boss fleets

[thin cobalt]

So im in need of suggestions for the 2 Tulipa ship loadouts if anyone knows how to kit them out?

[south sequoia]

Z52 for cvs and trafalgar for bbs right

[turbid shell]

what should i use other than Kear for Jintsu Meta fight?

[south sequoia]

Man im pretty outdated lmao

[hollow gust]

CVs have more then enough buffers z52 can main tank for BBs

[south sequoia]

Hmm

[cobalt rapids]

pretty standard gear

[south sequoia]

Z52 Plymouth trafalgar?

[hollow gust]

Z52 trafalgar Plymouth

[south sequoia]

Nice

Bye bye little helena

[hollow gust]

Helena should be going to the better fleet anyway

[south sequoia]

Oh wait I forgot helena is already with my cvs

Meh
Who should I max first lion or traf

[hollow gust]

Lion

[atomic abyss]

lion without question

traf is no z52

[south sequoia]

Does she replace anyone for soyuz bis vanny

Soyuz goes I assume

[atomic abyss]

vanny replaced with alsace to begin with

[cobalt rapids]

soyuz goes with nakhimov

[south sequoia]

Ah

[atomic abyss]

soyuz is replaced by default cos of nakhimov

[south sequoia]

I dont have any of the pr7 ships at dev30

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt rly matter for opsi anyway

[south sequoia]

Sooo Bis Lion Alsace?

[atomic abyss]

yes

or you end up using lion with soy and nakhi

[south sequoia]

wonder how that one doomposter is doing

[plain saffron]

Which one, there's too many

[whole crypt]

Lion still shit because manjuu not historically accurate

for the record Sara is the last one in the minigame because she "can't get any bigger"

[hollow gust]

it was never about lion weak, they are willing to nerf her so the stats match historical accuracy

[whole crypt]

manjuu doesn't do what I want them to so gaembad

[night iron]

is there a stage that's best for farming Gold?

I have 12-4 so far

[soft raft]

Technically higher world = more gold per run but 12-4 is a good balance of gold and difficulty

[twin isle]

Can we say Lion is better than Alsace at this point ? Or it is situational ? That dmg output seems unreal to me

[cobalt rapids]

she is top bb in dmg department unless the battle is less than 20s then alsus wins

[atomic abyss]

uh

alsace shd still win for 20s

[twin isle]

due it her hp+ I presume

[atomic abyss]

cos 2 salvos comparedto 1

no, it's the preload

[cobalt rapids]

yes 20s give or take
basically if its a 1 salvo battle

[atomic abyss]

preload literally gives her another shot

[undone plover]

Alsus and lion are pretty equal in buffs right?

[cobalt rapids]

probably by 2 salvo aswell but idk any battle with 2 salvos

[worn trail]

how do you get more of these? i dont even know where did i get them from

[undone plover]

Fleet buffs I mean not self

[twin isle]

I'm glad that I started to play this game right in time then, Alsace was my first UR bb

[atomic abyss]

operation siren

[worn trail]

just fighting bosses or is there a shop..? (i forgot it existed sorry)

[atomic abyss]

grind

grind maps, do bosses to get currency for the shop

[worn trail]

okay, thank youu

[slender linden]

who do I even level up

[cobalt rapids]

depends what u mean with pretty equal
unless alsus has a french to perma it then she doesnt have perma uptime on it neither for vanguard or for backline unless they are synced cvs or unless ure doing some magic to lock the others behind alsace

[mellow cape]

Even with a 10-6-1 lion, she's beating some of my other UR BBs in terms of DMG

[sweet schooner]

Got only 4 bulins, who to limit break?

[hollow gust]

That burn and barrage should put it decently close

[cobalt rapids]

it is pretty ridiculous indeed

[undone plover]

Both are 10% right?

[cobalt rapids]

alsus is 12

[cobalt rapids]

what bulins
d7p with gold
lion with rainbow
and retrofit unicorn with purple

[steep vortex]

I have 700 gems what should I spend it on i have 3 slots in dorms already but someone said that I should wait for floor 2 for more slots so what else should I buy for early game?^^

[atomic abyss]

that is correct

[cobalt rapids]

check /gems command in #bot-spam

[atomic abyss]

you expand your first floor are fully with decor tokens
then youre able to buy the 2nd floor

[steep vortex]

So what else after that

Just dock space?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[steep vortex]

Alright ty teacher!^^

[versed swift]

How many dock expansion should one buy?

[tame jungle]

as many as possible after expanding dorm to 3 slots 2 floors

[atomic abyss]

as many as you need really (which is pretty much as much as possible)

[versed swift]

How about 5 for now?

[atomic abyss]

[versed swift]

10?

[atomic abyss]

it's in increments of 10 to begin with

you'll probably want like, at least 300 in total

[turbid basin]

who i should spend my UR bulins on first? Alsace or Lion?

[atomic abyss]

lion assuming no other URs

[turbid basin]

no others

[main stag]

hey ender do you have that link that shows ship viability from last time i really need it

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist ?

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[slender linden]

will this work

[hollow gust]

Autoloader

[tame jungle]

give her another toolbox instead of autoloader

[atomic abyss]

a second HP aux

[honest stirrup]

quint torp?

no one reacting on that?

[atomic abyss]

oh yeah didnt see that
trash that torp

[slender linden]

this?

[honest stirrup]

Switch the quintuple torp for a quadruple

[atomic abyss]

yes, also trash that torp for a regular 533 quint

[slender linden]

what torp do I use

[atomic abyss]

or a quad mag

[soft raft]

german quad mag

[slender linden]

there

should I be changing the gun

[main stag]

yes thanks

[honest stirrup]

The gun is fine

[hollow gust]

That's quint , quad means 4, quint means 5

[slender linden]

oh

[hollow gust]

You can count the number of torps

[slender linden]

I have one but I dont have it leveled

[honest stirrup]

you can disassemble the quintuple 533 magnetic torps
You'll never use it

[hollow gust]

[faint cloud]

If the emulator has a dynamic fps feature (like mumu), clicking on the outside can cause it to reduce its fps. This minigame will be laggy when the fps sudden significant fluctuations in frame rate, so the balls will shake or bounce over.

And manjuu had added a invisible top making it harder bounce the balls off the box.

[honest stirrup]

what

[fast frigate]

whats the best way to farm coins

[hollow gust]

You don't assume newer players immediately have magnetic quad torps , they are still fine

[atomic abyss]

umm

goose, the regular gold quints are better than gold quint mags...

[soft raft]

farming oil cap maps
ideally 12-4, at the very mininum W9

if you havent got to W9 yet, the highest stage you can comftorably clear

[honest stirrup]

They just said they had one and it wasn't upgraded, so I'm assuming they're not using it and can use the materials from the disassembling to get the quad upgraded

[hollow gust]

Still keep them around until enough replacement torps

[atomic abyss]

gold quint mags cant even be used for crafting

regular gold quints can

[honest stirrup]

that's not the issue

[stark quiver]

Just throw it on a random ship

[honest stirrup]

Goose is saying that having a quint mag is better than having nothing, but I meant to disassemble that one +10 to get the visibly unused quad mag upgraded

[slender linden]

I used it on Yuudachi until someone scolded me for it

[hollow gust]

Like this is who you are telling to throw out gold torps

[stark quiver]

It’s more fleetpower anyways

[frosty shell]

Is this okay?

[worldly pewter]

use the 76mm blue gun
and remove the fire suppressor for another hp aux

[hollow gust]

Fire suppressor isn't thaat bad , gold hp equipment better

[atomic abyss]

supressor is fine if you lack a 2nd toolbox ye

[worldly pewter]

[faint cloud]

lion's c5 speedrun capable?

[rigid onyx]

1 hr Q or 4 hour G? ik the Q is better per hour

[whole crypt]

yeh I found out, I finally got to sara

whatever the case sara can't get any bigger

[swift moat]

Where do you get bullins for UR characters

[sweet delta]

In the proto shop

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Specialized_Core_Collection_Plan

[atomic abyss]

specialised core shop
cruise pass final reward
30k event currency milestone for UR events (15k for UR reruns)

[whole crypt]

i.e. keep playing

[whole crypt]

but even then MVP is still Ibuki

[stark quiver]

whos the middle girl vanguard

[atomic abyss]

watarase?

[faint cloud]

watarase

[river remnant]

how can you enchance this skill?

[stark quiver]

[atomic abyss]

enhance with duplicate oscars

[whole crypt]

feed oscars to oscar

[swift moat]

@atomic abyss what lvl does that shop unlock?

[atomic abyss]

im pretty sure it's a base game shop...

look for proto shop

[whole crypt]

prototype shop is right there
but you need to keep playing to earn the currency

[stuck lark]

Would anyone be willing to do a mini account review for me? I'm just getting back into the game after a very long break and I'd like to know where I should be focusing my effort to as I've just begun to reach the point where I'm starting to feel limited not by levels but by gear.

[prisma flint]

is it a good to have mogador and trafalgar in one fleet?

[wind hazel]

maybe yes, maybe not

most likely not, doesn't sound that great

[viscid swift]

start a thread and post your dock if you want

[undone plover]

Mogador synergy is usually with unzen and for anti heavy fleets

Trafalger just needs 1 BB and she works for all armor types

Mog still has good dps tho so depending on who u have u can run her

[elfin hollow]

can I use the villa coins for anything else? I have like 20k and I've already brought everything

[undone plover]

Not really
It is just like that for more casual players

[elfin hollow]

[stuck lark]

Sea Creature Account Review

[swift moat]

I already pulled lion should I try to pull for leopard or no?

[whole crypt]

wtf is leopard

[sweet delta]

Did you mean cougar?

[split gazelle]

dont tell me its cleopatra

[swift moat]

Meant cleopatra lol damn autocorrect

[sweet delta]

She's not a good gold ship by modern standards

[whole crypt]

even if she was I wouldn't recommend it anyway, cube wise

[swift moat]

Ah okay just picked this game up yesterday cause I heard it was f20 friendly and wasn't sure what was worth pulling for other than event stuff and I got lion first set of ten

[whole crypt]

it's f2p friendly if you spend your resources diligently, cubes need to be stocked over time playing the game and knowing when to stop or not pull on banners

long time players can stock enough to build basically however they want but new players don't have that headroom

[heavy sail]

what are we thinking about glorious meta and trafalgar?

[sweet delta]

*earn resources diligently and spend them wisely

[oak solstice]

Hello, quick question, I just rolled Lion and I have 4 bullins. How many UR Bullins does it take to max out 1 UR?

[barren barn]

Do i have to do recon request everytime i do startegic search in opsi?

[hollow gust]

4

[oak solstice]

Thank you friend, I appreciate that

[sweet delta]

If you pay 5000 oil in the shop then you don't have to

[eternal basalt]

But it's a scam so you shouldn't and save yoursefl 5k oil!

[heavy sail]

do meta ships also get affected by faction buffs (for example % up for hms ships)

[wind hazel]

anyone here that didn't miss a day in hornii, is it 70k already today?

[viscid swift]

no since they're apart of the META faction

[swift moat]

So another dumb question why can't you retrofit UR chars

[bold surge]

Not all characters have retro

[tame jungle]

retrofitting is limited to a select group of ships that the devs chose to have a retrofit

[ivory pawn]

Retrofitting also tends to bump the ship up a rarity as well, and there isn't exactly a higher rarity than UR.

[winter quartz]

Do you need to redo story stages after OS reset?

[viscid swift]

no

[winter quartz]

thank god

btw that 5k oil thingy worth buying?

[swift moat]

@ivory pawn @tame jungle @bold surge ah ok thanks

[stark quiver]

i mean... 5k oil is like 5 12-1 runs, that can give a lot of xp so

youre giving up xp for qol

[undone plover]

if u dont clear opsi cuz u cba without the 5k oil thing then it is worth
if u can clear opsi without it then it is not worth

[winter quartz]

I get clapped on bosses sometimes, but otherwise I do clear

[upbeat wagon]

How can one get dragon empery tech points? Are there any easily accessible ships to unlock from medal shop etc

[winter quartz]

I'm somewhere in ch10 still but I get your point

[undone plover]

i meant more if u dont want to clear the zones manually
the 5k oil is only a time-saver
it doesnt make you stronger

[upbeat wagon]

And after Roon, Fdg, Anchorage, Agir and Plymouth, who should I research?

Harbin right?

[undone plover]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#de

[upbeat wagon]

Thanks!

[upbeat wagon]

Im lacking 300 tech points for hakuryuu

[undone plover]

btw no one answered so
trafalger - one of the best offensive utility ships in game, needs a BB flag
gloriuous META - good gold CV, good 120 tech

[normal cedar]

can someone provide me the damage calc chart link? for both main fleet amd vanguard

there is an excel sheet I believe

[mellow mango]

where do guys get gold bulins?

[soft raft]

weekly missions and the medal shop

[heavy sail]

also this is the augument for ibuki no?

[ivory pawn]

Weekly missions, merit shop, medal shop, events.

[bold surge]

Ibuki yes

[soft raft]

pretty sure you can check who it belongs to by clicking "View Details"

[heavy sail]

what augument modules do i use for her?

[frosty slate]

Is there a good comp against Jintsuu Meta?

[upbeat wagon]

Are pr6 ships not worth developing?

[undone plover]

not sure what u are referring to
damage chart for what?

[soft raft]

Besides the DRs, Only Shimanto really stands out
and even then, the DRs are pretty niche overall

[sweet delta]

If a ship has a gold augment and you're rich, then use it.
If a ship has a gold augment and you're poor and https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules/ says it's bad, don't get it

[undone plover]

oh u mean sushi's tierlist?

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[normal cedar]

i remember seeing a sheet with these type of numbers

[undone plover]

probably u mean the CN dps sheet
I only see screenshots did not realize there was an excel chart

btw take these all with a grain of salt
it is theoretical dps
sometimes it is accurate sometimes it is not

[sweet delta]

The only public dps"sheet" is screenshots of a chart in Chinese on the Chinese wiki

[undone plover]

can u link it sushi
CN stuff is hard to find

[sweet delta]

It seems to be several months outdated,especially the individual ships
https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/舰船输出生存参考

[hollow gust]

Was it this super shit one

[dawn pike]

hello n.n
i've been out of the game for years and i have a severe gear drought, i've heard new good gear is found in gear lab and mats are in opsi but where? what do i have to do in opsi to get them?

[normal cedar]

thanks a lot!!

[soft raft]

you grind Operation Siren for materials
then use those materials in gear lab to craft the gear

[sweet delta]

That does look really wrong , what gun are they using to get equal light and medium on BBs?

[soft raft]

as for where exactly? there's no "Farm X location for Y Materials", just grind Corosion 5 zones

[dawn pike]

aigh thanks

[sweet delta]

Farming safe zones is a last resort

Do the special zones and explorable zones and daily missions first

[dawn pike]

what abt the red zones at the center
do they drop special loot or smt