gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

depends on the series, generally spend them to speed up the development of priority ship, like plymouth or nakhimov

[sturdy badger]

My Rainbow BP:
5 - 62
6 - 86
7 - 161

[atomic abyss]

Have you gotten Plymouth?

[sturdy badger]

Not yet

[atomic abyss]

If no I would use 5 and 6 selector BPs for her
7 probably for Nakhimov

[sturdy badger]

Oh, she's that good?

[late pike]

full stars on a chapter after 12 is 100 gems right?

[wind hazel]

does Lion move in EX?

[sterile jolt]

Plymouth very very good

[atomic abyss]

Best CL in the game basically
One of the best vanguards in the game for most content

[hushed sorrel]

thats wrong. for example 13-1 50 gems. the 13-4 gives 100

[late pike]

so each stage in a chapter is 50 gems on full clear and full stars?

[sinful escarp]

1,2,3 give 50
4 give 100 for any maps iirc

[atomic abyss]

You get a total of 250 gems for 3*-ing all the maps in a chapter as per what jadeite said

[late pike]

i see so i need to 3 star 2 full chapters to get my skin i see

[sturdy badger]

Dayum, should I start now? Currently building Azuma cuz waifu reasons but... Yeah.

[atomic abyss]

I mean I would just finish Azuma first and then start Plymouth if you're midway through

[hushed sorrel]

for fleetbuilding some here are really good. if you have questions it should be doable
by the way i am NOT one of them

[late pike]

yea not rn but a bitl later in the evenning imma ask for chapters 13 and 14

idk if full cleared 12 tbh

[hushed sorrel]

the event goes 3 weeks

[sturdy badger]

Just got the Combat Data Collection II, 1%, for Azuma. I guess I'll just start my Plymouth ig?

[late pike]

i hope to get it done before the skin goes

[sterile jolt]

If you f2p, don't buy skins for chapter gems. If you can donate, only in this case you can

[late pike]

also, are there any other incoming gems mail possible in the next 3 weeks?

[atomic abyss]

Just finish azuma if you already sunk in the cubes and coins and other things imo

[atomic abyss]

Lol no, don't expect any more till August

[late pike]

im not f2p i just dont havve currenly to sspend, i will after 30 days but skin will go out then

[atomic abyss]

3* ch13 is pretty straightforward

[hushed sorrel]

not in the mail, except there is a celebration of xx follower somewhere. if you are lucky you get some with commisions

[sturdy badger]

Aighty2

[atomic abyss]

Ch14 is a nightmare without proper fleet building

[late pike]

i see

[late pike]

actualy let me open up al

[atomic abyss]

If I were you, I would try getting the gems from the collection and rewards first

[late pike]

yea im also looking into that

i got 50 yesterday, but someof the ships i alredy retired

gotta get em again

[clear crane]

How do you turn Unicorn from elite into sr?

[atomic abyss]

Retrofit tab after tapping her pic in dock

[hushed sorrel]

retrofit

[sweet delta]

people do be tryharding on campaign whenever a new batch of skins drops

[atomic abyss]

Sometimes I wonder why people don't save but

[hushed sorrel]

yeah they should learn by doing

[hardy creek]

Is hood worth to 125?

[sterile jolt]

Lion can apply her burn to the enemy subs, well she's cracked

[late pike]

dam many of the shipgirls needed for colelction are from1-1 only

[hushed sorrel]

means barely any mobs, you should be able to clear it very cheaply. build a grind low level fleet

[late pike]

imma use my meta fleat

they are all around level 40 ish

actualy no 138 oil for one mission

[lyric moon]

Is glorious meta useful to raise?

[late pike]

i do need exp books to make em reach max level

[next raft]

hey sorry for the ping, i wanted to ask is this a public website/google sheets or is this a private thing you made? im just trying to look for updated sites so i can build a better fleet

[nova hawk]

How do I get the other UR? I know we need tokens but how do I get the tokens

[late pike]

there was a pin about it i just saw

[tender girder]

best aux for Lion is... 6CRH AP Shell (yellow bullet)? what else?

[nova hawk]

Don't see it, sorry I'm kinda blind

[late pike]

this message

read it througly

[nova hawk]

Ohh thanks alot man

[late pike]

fastest way to get exp books anyone know

[mild cove]

How do u increase the fleetpoint thing

[late pike]

better ships, better gear, better enhanced and higher level

[light trail]

where would u get glorious meta crystals after the event is over?

[late pike]

if your talking about the mainfleet and vanguard points given when making a fleet

[light trail]

dossiers?

[mild cove]

Oh wait sorry i mistook fleet points and faction point

I needed 900 sonething for plymouth hehhehehe

[late pike]

ahh you get fracction points from getting a shipg rl and maax starring her

[mild cove]

Ohhhh dang

I was raising the levels ;-;
Okay thank you

[late pike]

just level 70 to max break a ship

andd i hate it cus i dont got expbooks

[mild cove]

Hehe

I guess ill finally put my 40+ bulins to use

[late pike]

i used like 15 of em today

gonna use more they take soo much space

[cobalt rapids]

its public u can find it in /tierlist command

[normal cedar]

do the rental tickets expire at end of week or expire at end of event?

[next raft]

oh sweet thank you 🙏

[light trail]

honestly does this even matter bc how good is glorious meta anyway, compared to like any UR CV

she's probs not something i need to worry about right

[sleek flower]

i think it gets added to the shop

she's cv rld but you can still 120 her even without the crystals

[boreal wagon]

they always get added to meta shop after the event shop closes

[hushed sorrel]

they expire at the end of the event. atleast thats what usually happens with them

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks

[rare tusk]

I just got lion, who does she replace in this lineup?

[normal cedar]

pennsylvania

[rare tusk]

thank you!

[normal cedar]

also put portland in helena's position, tanks are supposed to be leftmost

[proud garnet]

Is it worth replacing anyone with Lion

[rare tusk]

oww I see, good call, thanks!

[mild cove]

Constantly out of gold

Any suggested hms ships i should select from wishing well?

[split gazelle]

Check pins for Wishing Well priority

[sterile jolt]

Dont pull in wishing well until you get 1k+ cubes imo

[split gazelle]

I also wouldn't waste it on HMS ships

[mild cove]

Hey!

[warped acorn]

how do i unlock event sp

[hushed sorrel]

clear d3. if you click at the last map you can switch it to "hard"

[frosty shadow]

Is Trafalgar good?

[terse roost]

Nj doesn't need black shell right?

[crimson glacier]

depends what you mean by need

she doesnt need it any more than other BBs

[normal cedar]

For this skill, does the Evasion down take place before the salvo which triggered the skill hits the target? Or that salvo is wasted?

[terse roost]

So 2 white shells?

[crimson glacier]

thats just objectively worse than black and white for every BB

if you need hit then you should use fcr

[atomic abyss]

Yes, UR DD so very good
Doesn't appear to be the best UR BB but she has her uses

[atomic abyss]

Debuff applies before the BB shells land

[normal cedar]

ok thanks! thats great

[atomic abyss]

For 99% of cases
BB want either white+black shell or white+afct/fcr

[warped acorn]

do i just grab a bowgun if i alr have 1 officer sword in main fleet

[atomic abyss]

No

You almost never need bowgun

[warped acorn]

alr then also for lion black and white shell?

[atomic abyss]

For all BB pretty much yes

[warped acorn]

alr

[normal cedar]

is there any source where I can see damage numbers for vanguard ships? (similar to the numbers suchi posted earlier today for cleo)

also for dd/cl, how much more reload corresponds to -1 sec reload time for torps?

[patent pivot]

it depends on your starting rld

this is the formula

[normal cedar]

Oh I see, thanks
so here, what values will be the weapon reload time, volley time and absolute cooldown?

[sterile jolt]

Do you really read what he typed?

Its depends on ships rld, your tech rld stats for start

[normal cedar]

I got that, but that is only one part of the formula...

[atomic abyss]

I have to ask, what even is your intention here

[patent pivot]

this set of equations will give you the rld required given starting rld r, the Rate of Fire a, and the desired speed up in seconds c

[undone plover]

absolute cooldown is a fixed value but a weird one
it depends on animation time, device specs and stuff like that but it is usually sth like 0.2s for every BB (except lion and alsace)

[normal cedar]

I wanna know what is the least achievable reload time for some ships that have skills synced with firing torps
Mainly anchorage for now

[atomic abyss]

It's about 15s iirc

[patent pivot]

this does neglect abs cld and volley time because those are gross

[atomic abyss]

The blue french twin torps get to around there for ancho

Purple french triple is about a second slower

[normal cedar]

is that assuming 200 affection 12% rld bonus?

[atomic abyss]

No lol

[hardy creek]

Are any of the purple or blue augments worth it? Or I should just focus on ships with specific augments

[atomic abyss]

Remember you also need to account for reload tech

[atomic abyss]

Purple ones are worth but not priority

Even for uniques, there's a different priority

[normal cedar]

I see, ill keep that in mind
Ill try to calculate now that I know the formula, since I also wanna know how much double autoloader will reduce it further

[atomic abyss]

Do I want to ask why do you even need that information

[normal cedar]

this...

[atomic abyss]

But again, why?

[sterile jolt]

You dont need double autoloader for ancho, you dont even need one

[atomic abyss]

There's a point where your calculations become unrealistic

And autoloader on ancho is exactly that

[sterile jolt]

But if so, we talking about +-0.20 sec

[atomic abyss]

Like is this just an intellectual question? For no practical use?

[sterile jolt]

Ok, not 0.20, but we can see it like this

[normal cedar]

so that I can put it in practice, I thought itll help me optimize those ships (eg- for anchorage, run low leveled ships with her on higher stages perhaps)

[warped acorn]

i need to beat all enemies available on sp stage before boss appears?

[sterile jolt]

Not all of them, but more than usual

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks a lot!!

[atomic abyss]

7

[warped acorn]

oh thanks god, they seems weak

[sterile jolt]

But. Its pointless to use autoloader on ancho. I repeat it another time

[normal cedar]

yea , if its only 1 sec or so ig eva or hp aux better...

[atomic abyss]

Bruh
The smokescreen doesn't even increase bulk by that much

You have to remember it's just a small area on the screen where it actually buffs your eva rate

And you're actually moving, so you may not even stay in the smoke area

[normal cedar]

oh wait I didnt know there was an actual smokescreen and the ships had to be in it... I thought she directly buffed their eva...

[atomic abyss]

Bruh...

[small nymph]

hey guys
who do i select for wishing well
been playing for like half a year tho so i have some of the ships...

[undone plover]

a lot of ppl already min/max these skills
putting blue torp on anchorage is the min/max move here to increase surivabilty at the cost of dmg
anything more than that is diminishing returns territory or outright worse
altho it is fine to theorycraft stuff and ask questions

[undone plover]

check the pins

[vocal sandal]

can any1 help

[small nymph]

thx

[hardy creek]

Is materials to 125 a unit rare?

[atomic abyss]

Kinda
More time gated
So early on you need to pick your 125s carefully
Or just don't at all and do it later

[hardy creek]

Hmm alright, 125 perk is stat boost right?

[undone plover]

just 2 fleets to farm event?

or to push a campaign stage?

[atomic abyss]

And level advantage buff

[worldly pewter]

lion and some tech here and there

[hardy creek]

Another question, for main line, is it always 2 cv and BB/BC? Thinking about my 2nd fleet

[undone plover]

@vocal sandal
lion, unicorn, saratoga eugen helena san diego
nelson enterprise independence portland laffey flex
flex can be saint louis if u are close to dev30 or scylla if u have enough gold bulins
if mob can clear d3 without unicorn then use someone else so u dont waste xp on unicorn

[atomic abyss]

Almost always yes

[whole crypt]

for campaign for most part yes

[vocal sandal]

campaign

i can farm event w js 1 fleet

[humble solar]

Will I win?

EX hard mode

[terse roost]

Pray

[atomic abyss]

No

[whole crypt]

yes if you're a manual god

[leaden garden]

is there a need to clear all the hard mode stages on events nowadays?

[undone plover]

i recommended a fleet
swap the vanguard when they are level 120
I put the vanguard like this to get xp on eugen helena and sandiego but they should be in boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

You still need to clear D3 for SP

[whole crypt]

not really

[warped acorn]

ex dont give reward?

[whole crypt]

500 chips for clearing

[atomic abyss]

Ex normal gives 500 cog chips

[leaden garden]

yeah i meant isnt the last stage sufficient enough

[warped acorn]

also the sp stage says 1 remain left if i completed it can i do it again

[atomic abyss]

Ex hard is leaderboard flexing if you actually clear it

[atomic abyss]

Once a day

[whole crypt]

ex gives 500 chips regardless of difficulty

[warped acorn]

oh also, d3 have oil cap right

[whole crypt]

norm is just easy to braindead clear

[vocal sandal]

ehhh wdym

[atomic abyss]

Yes D3 does

[warped acorn]

alr, guess ima try get that ur weapon before today ends

[whole crypt]

no rush

[humble solar]

Bruh i didn't even last 5 seconds

[whole crypt]

that's how ex hard works

[atomic abyss]

Ex hard ignores evasion

[humble solar]

Bruhhh

[atomic abyss]

So unless you're as nnt said, a manual god

[whole crypt]

it ignores evasion and has insane damage

[atomic abyss]

Lol, lmao even

[humble solar]

So I need someone like max out Agir

[atomic abyss]

No

[leaden garden]

no wonder i thought they just hit superhard

[whole crypt]

it's practically touhou mode

dodge by hand or die

[humble solar]

Fast ships?

[whole crypt]

dodge by hand or die

[atomic abyss]

Whichever you prefer

[humble solar]

So fast ships

[atomic abyss]

You're getting 1 shot regardless

[whole crypt]

speed is not the only issue

[humble solar]

Time to get the beaver squad

[quick grotto]

Someone fetch the bad apples.

[whole crypt]

fast also means running into bullets faster

[atomic abyss]

If you don't touhou I really don't recommend hard ex

[humble solar]

How do I beat it then

[whole crypt]

dodge bullets by hand

[atomic abyss]

Iirc

Less than 100 people cleared Hard EX in EN the first time it came around...

[cobalt rapids]

consider running a uss ship with manjuu for 8s of afk

[humble solar]

Manjuu?

[atomic abyss]

From the collection band

[humble solar]

Nah I don't have that

[cyan oasis]

[wind hazel]

💀

[cobalt rapids]

you dont have these 3 ships ?

[still merlin]

Is the new ur aa in the us gear lab any good

[cobalt rapids]

only the best

[atomic abyss]

Better than the previous UR AA

[undone plover]

use these 2 fleets
swap the vanguards later when u use it to push
I put them like this because your portland and laffey are level 125 so if u put them in mob it is a waste of xp while u farm

[humble solar]

Nah

[ionic kraken]

Once you get one of each ship from the event banner is it good to stop pulling? Or try for duplicates?

[atomic abyss]

^

[whole crypt]

I doubt 8s of EDC will help him clear

[atomic abyss]

Stop pulling

[vocal sandal]

ohk that makes sense. tyty

[whole crypt]

you're just dragging out the pain at that point

[atomic abyss]

As I said only the best of the best players is gonna clear it
A suboptimal backline like the one you have only makes you need to dodge for longer

[atomic abyss]

^

[humble solar]

Why is this image not loading on me

[atomic abyss]

And I mean over all the servers btw

I doubt the number has gone past 200 for the other hard EXes

[wind hazel]

yorktown enterprise hornet

[hushed sorrel]

yorktown enterprise hornet

[humble solar]

Lemme check if I have them

[whole crypt]

I wonder if I can make it to D1 tomorrow

[atomic abyss]

For the new account?

[normal cedar]

I was a bit confused about this answer, did you mean champy gun or georgia gun by best AP gun?

[whole crypt]

rolling over ch4 now

[atomic abyss]

I meant good gold BB AP guns actually

Wasn't very clear sorry

So yes champy/Flandre/Soyuz guns

[whole crypt]

what level is D1, 80s?

[atomic abyss]

1 +13 457 costs the same as 3 +13 champy

[normal cedar]

ahh ok, thanks!
I assume this now also applies to lion gun?

[atomic abyss]

Considering that there's no notable gold HE BB gun that's better than the mk6

[cobalt rapids]

u can ignore that line for flandre gun

[fossil hull]

can someone help me build a team for 13-1 here's my available ships

[undone plover]

u should have 3 gold AP BB guns at +13
so for example 2 champy + 1 flandre
or 2 flandre + 1 champy
or 1 flandre 1 champy 1 soyuz gun

2 champy + 1 flandre is probably the best mix

[whole crypt]

wouldn't Musashi/Unicorn/Sandy already roll over 13-1

[cobalt rapids]

musashi uni sara - neptune scylla z52
nj fritz enterprise - anchorage helena sandy

[onyx chasm]

Anyone know what settings I can disable to make the skins not crash my game when I head to the skin menu?

[wind hazel]

on phone =get new phone 😭
on emulator:
Bluestacks=download android 13 instance
Mumuplayer

[fossil hull]

at what power should they be at

[weary gust]

Fleet power means nothing

[whole crypt]

MuMu superiority

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks! also is it better to buy frandre gun in protoshop (after buying 2nd champy) or obtain via research?

[fossil hull]

okay thanks

[noble tulip]

Do we get a double ring pack in the 2nd phase of this anniv ?

[cobalt rapids]

should be lvled to 110+ (the ships that are below )
and appropiate gear
power level doesnt rly translate into strength

[whole crypt]

it's not about the fleet power, it's about the correct gear

[whole crypt]

can't remember if new oath skins are week 2 or week 3 but ring pack should come with that

[boreal wagon]

we had an infinite double ring pack for about 20 mins after en opened

[onyx chasm]

Nah like in game settings cuz LDPlayer aint the issue I just have the preview setting on so it loads every skin at the same time

[atomic abyss]

Check #tech-support or pins

[fossil hull]

i've been trying to follow the recommended gear in the ECTL as long as i have them

[atomic abyss]

It's an ldplayer issue

[whole crypt]

TIL CN is not actually foggy

[atomic abyss]

Nothing in game you can do to fix it

[tame jungle]

if you're using ldplayer 9, changing device model settings worked for me

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[undone plover]

protoshop
u should not focus pr6 any time soon

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks!!

[sterile jolt]

I dont really know how its supposed to be played, but yeah. Hard EX is hard enough...

[undone plover]

and if u have enough protocore at least buy 5 this month
max is 20 per month

this way u can just buy 20 and build the gun whenever u want instead of waiting 1 more month

[fossil hull]

yea this although i don't have some of the gold and rainbow gears

[cobalt rapids]

use what u have

w13 is easy enough and u have top of the line ships on top ull get away even with the poverty options

[worldly pewter]

ld9 is the best one for low end pc

[atomic abyss]

It's not

Low end pc best is mumu

Not LD

[boreal wagon]

mumu 12 is not good for most low end devices

[atomic abyss]

Tell that to Res

He has an absolute potato of a PC lol

[wind hazel]

Dear Res,
mumu 12 is not good for most low end devices

With regards,
your homie.

[boreal wagon]

mumu uses your gpu and cpu significantly more to achieve higher performance, this is fine on some lower end devices but on other it isnt

[atomic abyss]

It's so potato it's like the ones O'Bannon used

[boreal wagon]

but every emulator is a case by case basis regardless so there is no definitive best one for any case

[atomic abyss]

And in any case

[tame jungle]

the last time something was this potato, one million irish died

[atomic abyss]

Trying to get LD to work with the newest skins id a fucking nightmare

[normal cedar]

they didn't tell anything about AFCT in patchnotes or stream?

[atomic abyss]

Just see the pinned message in tech support

[atomic abyss]

No

[worldly pewter]

i compared based on my personal experience using 9GB RAM i7 2600 gtx 960
mumu gave me around 20 fps while ld9 is giving 50

[boreal wagon]

refer to this

[wind hazel]

9gb RAM wtf

[atomic abyss]

Even my phone has more ram than that

[sharp socket]

9gb ram gtx 960

[worldly pewter]

a worse version of ld9 is memu but i think the performance is very similar

[tidal meteor]

Trafalgar bad???

(Some reddit comment):

Dunno how to feel about Trafalgar being a worse Z52 overall with Aurora's debuff stacked on-top.

Not only does it feel kind of unoriginal to have yet another AA-focused non-gacha UR DD, but it doesn't quite feel like she brings that much to the table.

She's worse at tanking than all the others. She's not beating Eldridge Retro's ASW even with her abnormally high stat, her barrages are weaker than Z52's and her guns+torpedoes are all a little pathetic (why did they give her 1x125% MGM only to buff it by 15% in her other skill JUST to make it on-par with Laffey2 and Eldridge?). She's not beating Z52, Laffey2 or Eldridge retro in AA anyway unless you have +13 guns to take advantage of her double-mount AA gun. But even then, Provincien probably outdamages her by quite a bit anyway.

Furthermore rather than give her an AoA shot reduction (Z52, Laffey2) or +30% stats from aux (Eldridge), they gave her the torpedo spread reduction...despite the fact that her torps are arguably the weakest of all UR DDs (only Mogador's torps can be argued to be weaker, but that's Mogador; and she STILL has 10% more efficiency than Trafalglar!)

She debuffs AA (by a WHOLE 2%!) yet has no interactions with CVs (not even an AVI buff!) but wants BBs specifically (and she wants it to be a FLAGSHIP that fires, not loads, her gun- limiting further) for her EVA rate debuff, her slow is...a bit too little to make a dent.

FP buffs for RN ships sound nice but really only Plymouth and Lion can take proper advantage of them. TRP is only good on Javelin and maybe the J class with their crowns. AA is a joke nowadays unless you're doing chapter 13 hard or chapter 15, but RN has Scylla and Implacable for AA so this is a bit unnecessary imo.

[wind hazel]

dont read reddit

[atomic abyss]

Today on Reddit is a joke

She is worse than them for campaign, admittedly

[south sequoia]

She's worse at tanking than all the others
I can't believe reddit has access to level 10 all of a ships skills within 2 days

[atomic abyss]

Cleo she is

[forest palm]

ah, yes Reddit a swath of information that's totally reliable

[atomic abyss]

She's significantly frailer than all of them lmao

[south sequoia]

ah fair

but she's still pretty high up there

[atomic abyss]

Uh

Portland tier is not exactly high

[whole crypt]

what people don't realize about traf is she's good enough to be brought as Lion's buffer

[south sequoia]

..

so wait

[atomic abyss]

Do remember

Z52 is like, Guam tier

[south sequoia]

I thought the mebot calcs were higher?

[atomic abyss]

Laff2 is close to Anchorage

[south sequoia]

did I misinterpret the numbers

[atomic abyss]

He fucked up the calcs

[south sequoia]

oh

no wonder

[forest palm]

[atomic abyss]

True value is around 97%

[whole crypt]

the point is traf's best role is Lion buffer

[south sequoia]

[atomic abyss]

He misunderstood the skills

Thought her Eva rate debuff was an Eva rate buff to her

[atomic abyss]

Speaking of lion

[molten zinc]

I mean like if you're using BB you probably gonna have a Plymouth in there so big profit from using Traf anyways

[atomic abyss]

I have seen claims that Lion competes with Fritz in Nkhi SOyuz, and that appears to be the case. She's not better than Fritz for Hornet META, but could easily be better against light

[south sequoia]

cvs get to have z52, bbs get to have trafalgar

yayyyy

[forest palm]

if you're using BBs it's going to be Ply + Helena + 52 tbh

[atomic abyss]

So uh, lol, lmao even

[whole crypt]

yes the current claims is best comp to use with Lion is SoyNak

[atomic abyss]

That's fucking hilarious

[molten zinc]

is that from Quyet?

[whole crypt]

BB fleet doesn't deserve her

[atomic abyss]

Idk if quyet made that claim

But that was quoted from suchi

[whole crypt]

quyet is probably going to be shitting on Lion or harping on the wrong strengths

[molten zinc]

[forest palm]

wouldn't expect anything else out of Quyet

[south sequoia]

Wait if I'm understanding this correctly, lion can easily compete with fritz in light armor specifically?

[atomic abyss]

Hmm I might try this out for hornet tho

[whole crypt]

take with grain of salt https://x.com/reikurozuki/status/1924763841659076674

黒月零 (@reikurozuki)

Lion苏航队估算

X · May 20, 2025, 9:47 AM

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Not just compete, possibly overtake

It's easy to forget but Soyuz's kit

Actually has buffs for both when she's with CV and BBs

And a comp that's 2 BB 1 CV
With her being the 1 BB

Activates both those skills...

[molten zinc]

don't you need 2 CV to proc the 10% CV dmg dealt?

otherwise she only buff NP CVs

[hollow gust]

What's wrong with buffing only NP?

[humble solar]

Is Glorious Meta worth it?

[quick grotto]

For the OpSi bosses that are like level 128, are you supposed to need to fight them multiple times or am I just not strong enough?

[crisp raven]

there is a chubby wifu ?

[tame jungle]

#al-general

[hollow gust]

Well veterans can one fleet it, but taking multiple is fine

[hollow gust]

Shes practically free , just get her

[atomic abyss]

Just 1 iirc

[humble solar]

I mean building her

[molten zinc]

[hollow gust]

She is good CV tech

[atomic abyss]

I stand corrected

[quick grotto]

What kind of fleet do you need to do it in one? Geez.

[humble solar]

I mean for Opsi battles

Are METAs even strong enough to warrant the costly upgrades

[atomic abyss]

No

[hollow gust]

You level her for good CV tech , so your normal ships can perform

[humble solar]

I see

[orchid reef]

what is good gear for shinano, for mob fleets

[wind hazel]

fighter db parallel tb

something like hellcat, helldiver, barracuda, budget version

flapjack tenrai wyvern if you're rich

[orchid reef]

okay thanks

[tacit star]

is the 3 ship build daily worth it ?

[hollow gust]

If you don't have Lion yet or you want collection yeah

[late flame]

+depends on your cube count

[tacit star]

alright thanks

[gaunt cedar]

when is bismarck rerun supposed to be

[ivory pawn]

Soon. ™️

It’s the next UR on the rerun list, and rerun URs tend to run soon after a new UR.

[gaunt cedar]

thanks

[wild sinew]

Who appear after u connect 2 taihou in minigame?

[normal cedar]

||Kashino||
After that is Major Spoiler Alert!⚠️>>>||Saratoga||

[hushed sorrel]

usual 2 years after the event was released

[elder grove]

3 questions what in the freak is those lions? and when did they add this new mission thing and finally is the fast forward thing before fighting a stage just x2 speed?

[spring basin]

is it worth to go for the second trafalgar ?

[ivory pawn]

Lions are a stage effect. Not even the craziest one this event imo.
New missions were added Tuesday with update.
Fast forward is specifically on the grid map, making your fleet and enemy fleets traverse much quicker.

[plain saffron]

This event have fast forward because everything moves instead of just elites

[elder grove]

that speed qol just made me want to play full time again half the reason I hated doing events was the slow speed to reach anywhere, but man I feel like I stepped through a portal idk where tf to turn too

[ivory pawn]

Depends, do you have more UR bulins than you can use? If no, I say worth.

[plain saffron]

It's not qol it's for certain event only

[elder grove]

the speed thing isn't permanent?

[rich oyster]

anyone know what i need to prepare for 15-4 ?

[plain saffron]

Yes, not new also

[elder grove]

well is it for all events at least?

[ivory pawn]

Only events where all enemies move.

[plain saffron]

Never, unless you're like 10 pulls away from pity or something

[plain saffron]

.

[ivory pawn]

Trafalgar is the shop UR.

[rigid onyx]

traf is the shop ur

[elder grove]

meh that is second best, not the best but not the worst either

[plain saffron]

Ouh damn I'm dumb

[rigid onyx]

Its probably worth it if you're in ur bulin debt

[elder grove]

any tier list?

#1321998295740186686 message
this was what I was rocking not long before the fire

ngl I haven't even touched any gacha again except loggin but hopefully by next week I can play again like I want to

finally have the games I play all redownloaded and uptodate

[cobalt rapids]

/tierlist theres an early game one and a lategame one

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[whole crypt]

early game

[normal cedar]

im seeing this term pop up for some ships wrt w14/15 (little ches, isuzu,etc), what does life support here mean? unicorn?

[cobalt rapids]

it means they need big survability support because they are squishy af

unicorn is pretty much alr assumed to be ran in ch15

[normal cedar]

oh I see, got it, so basically more healers and maybe some aux to help survival

[cobalt rapids]

should alr be on survival auxes in the 1st place
a 2nd healer will help but it might not be enough still
well theres a reason why these ships are rated so low
its because realistically u wouldnt use em in ch15

[elder grove]

thanks

[worldly pewter]

yeah i think they need all the help possible in order to survive

[cobalt rapids]

but they do have high aa which is the sole reason why they arent in D tier ( well isuzu at least )
so if you can ensure their survival with like they will contribute more than a generic elite/rare ship x,y

[normal cedar]

ig can use them as last resort if having nothing better then, thanks

[elder grove]

how do I build a team?

[cobalt rapids]

well the situation would be quite grim if u have to resort to them for w15

[elder grove]

like I know a I need 2 teams a mob team and a boss team, but what is the comp for each?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content, diff content diff goals for ur team they need to do
u can read /campaign to see what ur team needs to tackle in w14 and w15
stuff like showdown and harbiters in opsi is just kill so u put together ur highest damage teams

[worldly pewter]

more like if u want to manual i think

[cobalt rapids]

if u are new u might read sams compendium to get a grasp on things

[ivory pawn]

#1321998295740186686 message

[worldly pewter]

nowadays w15 is a joke with how many insanely cracked ships are getting released

[ivory pawn]

If you didn’t get new ships, probably the same as before for now.

[rapid grail]

can burn from he guns and lionflame stack together? or does one of them overwrite the other?

[elder grove]

got a few SSR but I doubt they will make any difference

[modern inlet]

hey all. I am very confused on fleet building atm. Is there like some common team setups without spending a lot? Also is Lion good? Thanks

[elder grove]

but I would've expected that my other 2 UR would fit in somewhere, like Vangaurd

[tropic tusk]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips give this a read

[rapid grail]

1. yes you can make do with decent ships and appropriate gearing for content
2. yes yes she's great. however you might be lacking on the ur bulins needed to mlb her

[modern inlet]

thanks a lot, I will

[ivory pawn]

Are said URs MLB, or are you able to get enough bulins to MLB? If no, no they would not.

If yes, probably.

[worldly pewter]

imo lb2 for some ur can beat anything a new player can get early on

[tropic tusk]

dont half lb only lb if u can mlb

[modern inlet]

I got 2 Lions in 20 pulls -lucky me I guess

[elder grove]

I can mlb one maybe both if I can buy enough UR bullins

[quick grotto]

Are the Oceana II bosses heavy armor?

[tropic tusk]

u need 4 to mlb

if ur a new player best u will have only 1 from battle pass 1 from UR event and then u still need 2 more copy from the pool

[elfin hollow]

Was this mentioned in the update cuz I used my wishing well on shinano…

[worldly pewter]

u don't use ww for ur ships

[hollow gust]

1. Yes it was
   2.Never should have use wishing well on any UR , much less pull in them

[worldly pewter]

there is the medal and the special plan

[tropic tusk]

i mean ofcouse in a short amout of time not the long run

[ivory pawn]

He’s not a new player anyways, he has a fully MLB Bis2.

[tropic tusk]

im just judging from that icon

[ivory pawn]

Who are your new URs? Vanguard and who else?

[elder grove]

yorktown 2, I have 5 UR bullins yorktown is at 4* and Vanguard is at 3 do I have enough to mlb both?

[tropic tusk]

why do u half lb ur URs?

[elder grove]

? I didn't I had 2 Yorktowns and used her dupe and for vanguard haven't used her

[tropic tusk]

or were tehy from dups?

[ivory pawn]

You’d need 7, though I’d hold off for a little bit. See if you can pull Lion.

[elder grove]

ok

[pine inlet]

Trafalgar wants sub 1-sec gun basically yeah?

[quick grotto]

When the purple poverty AP gun on the sheet is gear lab only. ;-;

[pine inlet]

what is that gun again

[quick grotto]

Is buying the Georgia gun worth it?

Twin 406 Mk 8

[forest palm]

Single 113 is currently the gun we've landed on here

[pine inlet]

lucky I still have three spares of that

[sharp socket]

georgia gun is twin 457

[undone plover]

At some point with protocore sure
And that point being ~ch14

[forest palm]

Twin 457 is expensive

but even still the 457 isn't necessary and you can still accomplish the same things with a 406/50

[night crown]

Is there a meta team?

[forest palm]

that's a very broad question

like a team for fighting meta ships? a meta team for some content? or?

[night crown]

Campaign (I just started today)

[sharp socket]

https://samheart564.github.io/ecgc/newbie_tips

[night crown]

Thank you

Ah, the page no longer exists

[sharp socket]

one sec

[hollow gust]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/

[night crown]

Thank you

[forest palm]

I forgot they updated that

[night crown]

Do we have Alsace unlocked at start?

[tame jungle]

no lmao

[hollow gust]

Alsace is gonna be ages

[sharp socket]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips ecgc needs to be capitalised

[split gazelle]

has anyone gotten META materials from HM yet?

[tame jungle]

yes

[wet badge]

WTH THEY ADDED SPECIALISED CORES TO MEDAL SHOP

[stark quiver]

they added more yes

[wet badge]

is there a catrch to it

[tame jungle]

a little more expensive

[wet badge]

thats it?

[raven canyon]

is tralfagar good?

[tame jungle]

sure

[stark quiver]

it is? never noticed

[tame jungle]

it's 10 medals per 100

[ivory pawn]

10 per batch vs 6 per batch.

[stark quiver]

the wiki did not update that 💀

[viral vortex]

I dont have any particular ship that I wanna oath, so which single ship will be best to oath from gameplay/ 200 affection buff pov?
Meta Backliners like unicorn,biszwei or y2k? frontline buffers like Eldridge perhaps? (Preferably suggest one that has oath skin )

[tame jungle]

the buff is not that significant so feel free to hold off

[stark quiver]

if you have uneven oaths, it can throw off future syncs and you cant copy homework

[viral vortex]

oh i thought far too highly of the buff
thx, ig ill hold off then

[hollow gust]

It matters but not enough for most people

[viral vortex]

but i assume the places it matters (ex, cm, pvp) probably need all 3 backline oath like alpha said?

[hollow gust]

Never

[stark quiver]

you can work around it if you have uneven oaths, just change up some gear

[hollow gust]

You can always work around oath and non oaths

[rigid onyx]

ex is probably the closest thing you'd get to needing oaths

[whole crypt]

you somehow managed to mention the three things where it doesn't matter

[rigid onyx]

iff you want to top leaderboard

pvp has unlimited resets and attacker bonus but oaths could be nice

[whole crypt]

oath stat ship power also lowers your score if it can be done with unoathed ships in the same time, for the record

[viral vortex]

ehh then can you just suggest some ship, i dont think ill ever wanna oath any particular ship tbh... might as well use the buff
any ship is fine, chances are ill not have that ship anyways so ill have to wait but i wanna know who can maybe make use of the 12% the best

[tame jungle]

what's the obsession with spending your resources man, just save it for someone you wanna oath

[stark quiver]

whos your waifu
you can oath her

[rigid onyx]

ultimately the game is easy enough that oaths arent needed anywhere except maybe meta one shots, but DPS back liners benefit most from stats

[stark quiver]

or just save the ring for someone you realy wanna use it on

[viral vortex]

none in particular lol thats why
i would have used it on random ship if it didnt have any buff...

[stark quiver]

just save it then

[whole crypt]

just hold on to it first
if you have 3 rings then maybe do it together for a set of main fleet that usually goes together

[viral vortex]

oh true...
ill hold onto then atleast they will be used better when i have 3 of them, thx

[whole crypt]

if you find someone waifu enough along the way go for it, otherwise save rings so you can oath good main fleet comps in 3s

[undone plover]

Some have nice oath skins

If u want to decide based on that
Go to wiki oath section

Altho for EN anni and JP anni we should get more oath skins if u want to still hold on until then

[fiery pelican]

Dis is gud enuf?

[stark quiver]

+0 demon
whats it for, you can prob go fcr for black shell

[fiery pelican]

i dont have gold... I mean just for the gear not the lvl

[undone plover]

Event b3 d3 and SP as well
Buy her last day of event if she refuses to drop
Save 8k currency in your calcs for that eventuality

[stark quiver]

if eveything is +10 its fine

[undone plover]

It is generally fine
For bossing u might want to change the gun depending on enemy armor and your comp
If u are fighting a specific boss come back to ask for gear

Also change black shell to high performance fire control radar
It is better for >90% of content

[fiery pelican]

Okay

Which one is quadruple gun, I'm a total noob, I followed a chinese website

[undone plover]

Well when the radar is +10 I mean
For now looks like u have coin issue so keep the black shell

[random rain]

hello. what's trafalgar's niche based on datamined info? is she a good aa dd? the two gear recommendations that i see of her ingame makes use of this? (high performance air radar, ur iris aa gun)

[split moon]

which of the event ships is worth raising for fleet tech
and which ones are generally good to use

[fiery pelican]

I blindly crafted the main gun and AA without knowing if it's good, I hope it's not a mistake

[undone plover]

Most likely bossing dps/support ship
Similar niche to plymouth
Ignore in game gear recommendations
Ppl just want to have fun with those

[cobalt rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qId_8CqJpV8 heres a review of her

[whole crypt]

Traf's best niche is probably Lion buffer

[undone plover]

It is not a mistake but in future ask before u craft rainbow stuff

[winter quartz]

Any cool analysis on Cleo, Gallant and Glorious META around? Are they good or what?

[hollow gust]

Mid mid mid

Generally just for tech material

[fiery pelican]

Where can I use Implacable?

[whole crypt]

GM is much needed CV RLD

[stark quiver]

glorious gib me +1 rld

[undone plover]

Best place for her is in a bossing fleet with 2 other carriers
She stops enemy so your carriers can land their bombs and torps on the enemy
She is generally decent in campaign as well
And a decent option for w15 support fleet

[fiery pelican]

Ahh okay, she probably can help me deal with hard arbiter? Someone recommended me to mlb her then fritz then the new free UR

[undone plover]

Is GM insta rld strike a one time thing?

[undone plover]

Idk about those recommendations since i havent seen your UR ships but yes implacable can definitely help with hard arbiter

[winter quartz]

Regarding tech points, do I need to level both meta and normal versions or just one of them?

[undone plover]

Meta does not give useful tech points for any faction
They sometimes give good level 120 tech

[cobalt rapids]

thats what it says

[undone plover]

In general avoid using meta ships as a new player

[eternal basalt]

Affinity part true???

[undone plover]

Where is this from

[cobalt rapids]

ingame handbook

[winter quartz]

they are very easy to build so it is tempting :p

[undone plover]

They can slow down your progress in shipyard but if u know what u are doing then it is fine to invest in them

Also the enchance mats can be a PITA when u run low

[fiery pelican]

These are my URs

[undone plover]

How many bulins?

[whole crypt]

mistranslation?

[fiery pelican]

I can get another UR to max

[whole crypt]

hang on let me check CN

[fiery pelican]

24k currency to buy the bullins

[undone plover]

Are you close to dev 30

[eternal basalt]

Can't read that

[whole crypt]

can you paste the whole section for EN

[hollow gust]

Doubt it, it was regular rates for my lion

[eternal basalt]

In a couple hours, when I am behind PC

[whole crypt]

I think I know why

[fickle parcel]

Is there a reason they kept the hearts in the Dorm when it doesn't do anything?

[whole crypt]

it does

it's just a very little amount

[fickle parcel]

Oh, the last time I asked about it, some people confirmed it was bugged and the community wiki also says it's bugged.

[eternal basalt]

0.01 to 0.03 I hear

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Talk:Affinity

[hollow gust]

It's basically worthless but eh it's still a run

[fickle parcel]

tyty!

[whole crypt]

CN used a different wording for high morale and vhigh morale, and EN just translated as if vhigh morale adds more

[fiery pelican]

Dev 30 of who?

[undone plover]

nakhimov in pr7
Also how many LB is implacable?

[fiery pelican]

Nahh

[whole crypt]

she still wants the usual white shell/radar for auxes and the STAAG/rainbow76 for HIT if that's what you're asking

[fiery pelican]

Wait why my URs not complete lmao

[whole crypt]

it'll still affect her crit and you still want her shelling damage?

[atomic abyss]

To put it bluntly

[whole crypt]

it depends on where/how you're using her, if bossing she may or may not have higher priority for table

[sullen birch]

I bought the BB Ur gun
Should I give it to lion or Bismarck the UR version

[hollow gust]

Musashi is first prio for table usually

[whole crypt]

but if you have another BB that is in a position that wants table more then give her radar

[atomic abyss]

Depends on where and what you're using them for

[whole crypt]

assuming you know what that BB and where that position is

[sullen birch]

Ok

[whole crypt]

lol new server/player XP bonus events are so quick to bump

fair

[undone plover]

Do you care about a specific content?
Like meta fight (for example upcoming kawakaze meta) or just want to mlb someone universally useful?

Anyway I agree on implacable > fritz/z52 and then lion
Those 4 are the prio
But order of mlb might differ based on priority
For example lion could turn out to be great for kawakaze meta
But u will soon LB them all so I wouldnt worry very much about it

[fiery pelican]

Okay thx, I dont really mind about specific content I can fight meta multiple times so not a big deal. Uff Okay I thought Lion is a first choice coz I already maxed her out

[next raft]

Asking for mob fleet opinions/suggestions

[undone plover]

She might be the best one but since u have a lot of top tier BB I lowered her on mlb prio

Like your CV fleets atm need a stopper
Nakhimov works if u can get her dev30 but if not implacable is the clear choice

[fiery pelican]

I dont even unlocked her yet

She’s a DR?

[undone plover]

No u had her level 1

Yes but u need to be on pr7 focus to get her to 30 in a reasonable time and I dont know your shipyard status

[robust mason]

Short adjustment to fleet help

[fallen plume]

do I have to keep repeating the missions to get full stars

[worldly pewter]

u only need to go in there and hit 1 mob then leave

[fiery pelican]

Lmao, probably because I saw a guide somewhere to unlock her first

[worldly pewter]

how far are brest and ply from dev30 ?

[plain saffron]

Did they reduce the escort kill needed too or just no of clear?

[worldly pewter]

that looks like a low level hard stage

[fiery pelican]

Should I focus on PR7 now? I know it takes months to max a ship

I do have 93 tickets to exchange

[undone plover]

How is your ply gun prints looking like?

In shop and depot?

[worldly pewter]

staying in pr5 for a moment to finish ply then go to pr7 sounds like the best idea right ?

[fiery pelican]

This one?

[atomic abyss]

That is plygun yes

[fiery pelican]

Rough

Never bought it on shop too, I thought wyvern was more important

[undone plover]

Yes finish plymouth and move on to pr7 focus
The sooner u start 7 the better so u finish it before 8 release

[fiery pelican]

I mean tenrai

[undone plover]

Use your DR5 selectors
But dont use the DR7 selectors on plymouth

Ignore the ply gun in shop for now since u had 1 and 1 is enough for plymouth

Later on when u have a lot of protocore buy enough prints to get your second gun

[fiery pelican]

I dont think I have that one

Ok Plymouth is Dev 30 now

[worldly pewter]

u got 8 prints while ply is dev 30 ?

[undone plover]

Oh I thought I saw it in that screenshot from earlier

No I think they just forgot they had it

[fiery pelican]

Yeah

[undone plover]

It is on your BB I think it was lion?

[fiery pelican]

None right

[worldly pewter]

8 prints dev 30 ply is very unreasonable

[undone plover]

It is on lion
~~Ik your account better than you ~~

[worldly pewter]

yeah

[fiery pelican]

Oh its the same gun, wait

[undone plover]

Give that to plymouth and start pr7 now
Focus neko face research

[fiery pelican]

I crafted it from where

[undone plover]

U had prints
U get them from research
The shop prints are only a supplement

[fiery pelican]

Okay... I'm a total noob

[undone plover]

It is all good dont worry

[fiery pelican]

Big thanks

[cobalt rapids]

how to finish s7 in 1.7 months

[little tree]

With this neat little trick no one will tell!

[fiery pelican]

Who is nekoface?

[cobalt rapids]

admiral nakhimov

[undone plover]

I mean when u pick researches in the academy
Pick the D research that shows nakhimov
She is the biggest priority to finish (dev30) in pr7

[fiery pelican]

Ahh you mean the tasks? I thought you can select the catch up

[little tree]

:nakhmpat:

[undone plover]

There is no catchup for 7

Catchup is for older seasons

[worldly pewter]

we get catchup in the next august right ?

[cobalt rapids]

this but with nakhimov instead

[undone plover]

The power of copium and selectors
Probably they will not finish it but even if they finish by september it is still decent progress
And better than wasting the time in pr5 or pr6

[undone plover]

Catchup time is january

[fiery pelican]

You guys got degree in Azur Lane or something

[worldly pewter]

u know that i was trying to dev 30 neko for about 4 months now ?

[robust mason]

Quick fleet help (WHERE TO PUT THE URs)

[fiery pelican]

What secondary gun do I put on Lion then? Coz I strip her

[little tree]

155

[worldly pewter]

so we get the fs5 in august ?

[fiery pelican]

This one?

[worldly pewter]

that is 155 kai

[undone plover]

Should be I think yes
A few weeks after new season in july iirc

[undone plover]

The one who looks like this but it is looking at the right side instead

[wind hazel]

works the same

[fiery pelican]

Should be this one

[wind hazel]

any 45fp cl gun will do, unless you're doing something specific

[fiery pelican]

Nice, thx

[wind hazel]

@little tree tell me how it differ for statstick

[whole crypt]

my MuMu was killed by MuMu

[wind hazel]

[undone plover]

It doesnt differ for statstick but 155 kai better kept for CL
And u will likely forget to change 155 kai to 155 when u actually have to do so

[wind hazel]

it's on vanguard anyway so it's kinda... you know

[slender linden]

What UR exchange do I get that will be good for world clearing? I recently got Shinano to deal with W-13

[twin isle]

This might be an early question but I have to know since I don't have triple 406mm 16"/50 Mk7 yet, which gun is better for BB?

[wind hazel]

mkII is slightly better than mk7

[worldly pewter]

the new gun is limited to 1 while the mk7 is limited to ur opsi mats

[wind hazel]

shinano/vanguard>nj/uvh>kron>shima

just go down this list, mlb first before moving on

[twin isle]

Ik, I will use my resources on one of them and make it +13 that is why I asked, thanks guys

[undone plover]

The good* gold AP BB guns take prio over either of these 2 for +13

[twin isle]

Alsace will use this main gun

[slender linden]

I can’t tell if they’ll be benificial for my ships

[slender linden]

I recently got Yuudachi and retro’d her this sc kinda old

[wind hazel]

i dont see your shinano

[cobalt rapids]

why one of them if the mkii is better?
also neither is high prio depending what u have so u might want to not +13 either

[slender linden]

Yea I just got her this morning

[undone plover]

If u got shinano already just commit to her

[fallen plume]

is this decent wishing well

[whole crypt]

don't ask me how it did it but installing MuMu CN killed my MuMu global, now I'm trying to reinstall global to see if it fixes what b0rk

[cobalt rapids]

no its not

[worldly pewter]

ur gear take x3 the amount of gold plates so be careful on what u invest in

[slender linden]

The Shinano is now full LB

[wind hazel]

keep on picking shinano until she's max limit break

[whole crypt]

don't bother putting perm UR in WW, pull for other ships you don't have and just take UR with pity

[wind hazel]

then move on onto Vanguard next

[undone plover]

I think he meant he was thinking about +13 one of them before he asked and now he will +13 the better one since he knows which one is better

[slender linden]

She’s full limit break now

[slender linden]

Is she good?

[fallen plume]

But I wanted shinano

[twin isle]

I'll wait a full review than, hope soon I can see it in yt

[wind hazel]

she's the next best from the available choice

[robust mason]

Random question, thoughts on Glorious META?

Worth pulling for or building?

[wind hazel]

but you will unlikely to use her anytime soon for campaign clearing

[undone plover]

No because she is free

[wind hazel]

also why do you have two Hood

[undone plover]

Just buy her from shop if she doesn’t drop by the time event is over

[slender linden]

Then why get her

[wind hazel]

then do you want your perma pity to stay at 400 permanently?

[robust mason]

Damn.
And here I struggled with the SP mission thinking ‘damn she strong’ 😔

[slender linden]

Back then I used 2 hoods in 2 fleets to clear foxes and poi

[wind hazel]

[worldly pewter]

don't judge the ships based on what u fight in the game or else the ijn BBs will be the most cracked

[wind hazel]

also pretty worrying now that i reread what you write again. you got shinano earlier... and max limit break her straight away?

[fringe sail]

Good day chat, Which map is the fastest one to farm Rosen emblems?

[slender linden]

No you’re better off retrofitting Ranger or something

[slender linden]

Yea

[robust mason]

I might aswell 😭

[undone plover]

I wasnt implying she is bad btw if that is what u understood
It is just she is not worth spending cubes for since she is free

[cobalt rapids]

D3

[little tree]

isn't the 155 only worse then 155 kai in w14

[wind hazel]

what happen to your HMS Lion, or are you skipping her

[slender linden]

Skipping her cuz I didn’t want her

[whole crypt]

honestly not worth rushing unless you have a lot of spare cubes

[undone plover]

She is like a good SR CV with some neat defensive and offensive skills
Probably not the best SR CV but not the worst either

[wind hazel]

yes but how does that relate to statstick

[little tree]

U can get nano from begginer mission

[fringe sail]

So it's really the fastest one
Oh man I've been grinding for hours and still not enough to get the BB gun

[fallen plume]

we do need to redo missions multiple times to get 3* right

[slender linden]

Nothing a good ol Saratoga retro can’t do

[undone plover]

Fastest is clearing a1-b3 with 3x once per day

But then go to d3 after that

[little tree]

~~ why we stat sticking is it for only fp and nothing else

[worldly pewter]

don't forget low costing the sp

[undone plover]

True SP if u can clear is technically fastest

[slender linden]

Should also do the mini games too they gave me some of those brown medals needed to exchange trafalgar

[eternal basalt]

When the mood is very high, attacking will increase the favorability and experience gain will increase by 20%
Seems it also says this in CN

[fallen plume]

then what are escort fleets

[whole crypt]

it's just a slightly different wording but I don't think it actually means vhigh morale gets more

[worldly pewter]

oh u meant in the main chapters then yes
u have to do the missions more than once

[slender linden]

What was even the point of farming this

[whole crypt]

I pasted both JP and CN just now and I actually read both

[worldly pewter]

i told u earlier to hit 1 mob and leave @fallen plume

[slender linden]

Oh right, renown is fucking hot

[fallen plume]

what if the progress is 2/5

[worldly pewter]

try to not leave the map before finishing as many mobs as u can

[undone plover]

What is the point of anything?
For collection and flex I suppose and it is a nice (but hard) fight
she is also not a horrible ship but UR BB exist

[fallen plume]

you're trying to say clear everyone except for the boss and then leave?

[slender linden]

I did OpSi in a day just to get her

[fallen plume]

does it refund oil or something

[eternal basalt]

But it does say affinity (favorability) in CN

[raven canyon]

is tralfa good

[worldly pewter]

if u have to do 1 mob like the earlier one 2/3 then u want to do 1 mob and leave and move on
if for example now u have to do 3 then do these 3 then do the boss and move on

[whole crypt]

what it says is "raise" affinity, in 2 different ways

but nothing indicates one is more than the other

[eternal basalt]

You can check the current mood of the ship in the backyard;\n·When changing roles in the backyard and formation interface, you can see the specific mood value of the ship;\n·In specific sea areas, each attack will reduce the mood of the ship;\n·When the mood is very high, attacking will increase the favorability and increase the experience gained by 20%;\n·When the mood value is high, attacking will increase the favorability. If the ship is the MVP of the battle, it will get double the favorability;\n·When the mood value is medium, attacking will not increase the favorability;\n·When the mood value is low, attacking will reduce the favorability;\n·Placing the ship in the backyard will increase the mood recovery rate

[worldly pewter]

what i was trying to say earlier is do not always hit the boss as soon as it spawns

[whole crypt]

notice it just says increase in both

[undone plover]

Sounds easy to test tbh

Put a ship with 100 morale and one with 150
Make someone else mvp and check affinity after 3x sortie

[eternal basalt]

Ah, like that Yeah, I can see how they mistranslate that, so confusing

[whole crypt]

#game-feedback or #bug-reports

[eternal basalt]

I'll go to bp

[queen meadow]

Does anyone know how good lion and trafalgar are yet?

[whole crypt]

very
no one has them maxed legitimately to test

[jaunty glade]

i know this is early, but whats everyones thoughts on the two new URs?

[tame jungle]

look at the previous message

[jaunty glade]

my bad

[tame jungle]

it's ok i forgive you

[queen meadow]

Love them. I got lion on my 69th pull. It was simply meant to be

[jaunty glade]

its super nice that they gave us 4 UR bullins toooo, i could just get them both up to mlb

[fallen plume]

do you guys have a beginner guide type thing the event screen looking kind of overwhelming

[queen meadow]

???????

[jaunty glade]

the rookie missions

[slender linden]

Anyone have a UR priority guide

[jaunty glade]

it depends what you have access to / what ships u currently have, not that cookie cutter

[wind hazel]

rookie mission give 4 URin?? are you sure

[sweet delta]

Fr?

[queen meadow]

I see only sr bulins

[jaunty glade]

omg i misread it

[wind hazel]

STRAIGHT TO JAIL

[slender linden]

The handbook in phase 9 gives a free Shinano or NJ

[whole crypt]

do not pass go do not collect 20 cubes

[wind hazel]

aku tak faham

[slender linden]

I’m like 50 pulls away on the 400 UR exchange

[tame jungle]

god i wish we got 4 UR bulins from handbook but no, they're SR (gold!)

[wind hazel]

gold like ufufu

[tame jungle]

omg car!

[slender linden]

Who tf is UVH

[sweet delta]

/wiki urrich

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ulrich_von_Hutten/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ulrich_von_Hutten
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ulrich_von_Hutten/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ulrich_von_Hutten/Gallery

May 22, 2025, 4:26 PM

[normal cedar]

Which one does more dmg, fusou retro or unretro? Kinda skeptical since idk how worth seaplanes are for dmg

[forest palm]

Fusou and Yamashiro do not want modernization if you plan to use them, if and when you get them to 120 and you care about collection% then you finish their retro

[worldly pewter]

doesn't matter much u level the ship for the tech

[hollow quartz]

Now that the beginner missions changed is it better to retrofit a DDG like tai yuan instead of the starter DD?

[slender linden]

God I can’t pick between NJ, Vanguard or Shima

[undone plover]

Vanguard is the meta pick

[worldly pewter]

no because DDG requires spec cores and they are better spent on others like sandy or the shop DD

[undone plover]

For perma pity

They also require 1600 core data for gear

[slender linden]

Can I trust your words?

[undone plover]

U can and should double check
But yes
Well assuming shinano is MLB

[slender linden]

I bought Royal Fortune recently cuz she’s hot

[slender linden]

Yeah I have her mlb

[worldly pewter]

vanguard might be used for the triple BB tech in the next meta

[slender linden]

Her skills look good

[undone plover]

Tho dont invest bulins into her

[slender linden]

Who

[undone plover]

Vanguard

[slender linden]

Why

[split gazelle]

and any other pick for that matter

[undone plover]

Lion and trafalger are higher prio
And whoever else u might have

[slender linden]

I don’t like Lion

Tafalgar will be stuck at level 1 forever

[undone plover]

Well then u are free to do what u want I guess
Vanguard is a great BB still

[worldly pewter]

lion is a direct upgrade to vanguard

[slender linden]

After this I have to start farming fdg

[robust mason]

Who should I MLB (UR)

[worldly pewter]

not investing into lion and instead into vanguard is a very questionable decision

[hollow quartz]

But its cost 1000 only and Sandy takes ages to retrofit since she is expensive

[errant fog]

is it just me or I cant equip glorious meta in a fleet? Or is there smth idk here?

[undone plover]

Show screenshot

[worldly pewter]

then i m not sure which is the better one to invest into ty or anshan

[slender linden]

Were you trying to put her in your vanguard

[worldly pewter]

ty is in the guild shop at least so the availability is there

[hollow quartz]

Yeah I remember Tai was considered the best DDG last time I was around but I am not sure if that changed

[worldly pewter]

u can do it i guess but imo better to do the ur ones first

they increased the amount of spec cores from the medal shop

[errant fog]

I...... Imma shoot myself.... Im soo damn dumb why did I thought she's a vanguard

[grim siren]

Hello, is there a currently existing Gift code for Azur Lane? I just found out about it

[tame jungle]

no gifts, grind like a real man

[worldly pewter]

i never heard of gift codes before

[slender linden]

For 6 years I thought she was in vanguard too I only discovered recently through her Meta one

[grim siren]

Soo what's this for again?

[hollow quartz]

You mean UR bulins? I started a new account and I think I'll have enough by the end of the event to MLB Lion

[tame jungle]

that's for gift codes
the only one that i know of were the blu-ray exclusive skins

so no, it does not seem to be a regular thing

[elfin nimbus]

azur lane TV blu ray skins

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[grim siren]

Ahh thanks! I was confused for what it was

[elfin nimbus]

Bel my fav blu ray skin

[hollow gust]

Sandy is used basically everywhere ,she's worth the cost

[compact gulch]

Might be dumb question but do I need the character to put the skin as my background?

Ah damn I thought so lol guess I’ll keep grinding for trawaifu

[hollow quartz]

Oh dont get me wrong I am not planning to neglect her its just that its gonna take me a while to reach the node that requires her exclusive item as a new player

[slender linden]

Guess I’ll be getting Vanguard as my UR exchange

[eternal moth]

Personally I'd recommend getting copies of Shinano until she's MLB. Lion may be replacing Vanguard

[soft raft]

wait did Lion launch without a Dynamic animation 💀
Cuz why else is that preview video being posted today of all days

[foggy minnow]

can someone tell me why i cant start ? got them all 110 req 110 but still red

[tame jungle]

average level should be greater than 110

[viral flicker]

Alsace
Implacable
Musashi
Trafalgar
Who should I mlb first

[hollow gust]

Depends on what you have maxed already

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[worldly pewter]

that mathematical symbol means strictly above

[viral flicker]

Do I have to keep on sending my list again and again

[tame jungle]

do you think we're gonna specifically remember your list

[mellow cape]

Gear okay?

[tame jungle]

sure (vs light)

[hollow gust]

+13 pencil

[mellow cape]

Lolll that was long ago

[tame jungle]

+13 gold shell kinda not worth it but hey if you have it already

[mellow cape]

yeah 3 years ago sadly

What would be the best heavy gun for her?

[hollow gust]

[mellow cape]

Nice saved

[nova crane]

should i mlb shinano

[viral flicker]

Fine here

[viral flicker]

I wonder what their names are

[worldly pewter]

work on haku too

[nova crane]

😬

[nova crane]

haku?

[viral flicker]

So who should I mlb first

[worldly pewter]

hakuryuu to pair with shinano because they are a giga stronk combo

[nova crane]

ok thanks ill try to get heer

[worldly pewter]

depends on what u want to do

[foggy minnow]

just realised it that there was the symbol xD just read Avg. level 110^^

[viral flicker]

Idk

[worldly pewter]

then don't mlb any ship and keep farming the event

[viral flicker]

Ok

[quasi nymph]

trafalgar is a destroyer ?

how good are her torps ?

[hushed sorrel]

414 with 125
her slot has 120% max Max # 2

[jaunty vault]

yes

[quasi nymph]

are her skills also torpedo dmg based ?

[hushed sorrel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Trafalgar

[worldly pewter]

she is a good allrounder ship as it seems

[quasi nymph]

do you know about a great emulator for azur lane

bluestacks crashes a lot

[dusk maple]

mumu, ldplayer 9

[hushed sorrel]

might be your pc. bluestuck support is in another discord :P

[quasi nymph]

i use the tuf f15 laptop

[worldly pewter]

i personally use ld9 because my pc is a hot pile of garbage
memu is the next one
mumu is the best for an ok pc

[hushed sorrel]

i am just another user. i will not look up your laptop, but it can also be something inside your options and other stuff. either way bluestacks knows itself best

[worldly pewter]

bluestacks for me (my case) is the worst emulator

i can handle mumu massive performance issue but not bluestacks

[quasi nymph]

it has a 4 gig gpu and a very great amd cpu with 16 gb ram

[quasi nymph]

what graphics and interface render are you usig on your bluestacks ?

[fast frigate]

is trafalgar good

[normal cedar]

is it fine to spend 100k coins on bp and 500 books to dev30 120 sanrui? Ill unlock brest as well if I do that..

[undone plover]

no that is not ideal
only buy 10 per day
or if u want to rush buy 15
There are other things to spend coins on

there is no rush to unlock brest
it is fine to take your time with research and shipyard
it is not a race

[worldly pewter]

brest is one of the lowest ships priority

[normal cedar]

oh ok, thanks!!
ill continue with my normal grind then and 10 bp per day

[hushed sorrel]

i am using it since yesterday. i doubt that my impact will help you. i just wanted to tell you that most likely nobody here is a expert for emulators. whatever the problem with bluestack is it wont be resolved here in azur lane gameplay.
abdou already told you a few other, just try around and you might find the one you like. i hope you get the one you like and one that works @quasi nymph

[hollow quartz]

What is a 1:1 fleet is it one ship in vanguard and one ship in main fleet? And why would I want to do this?

[worldly pewter]

better event currency / oil ratio

[soft raft]

minimizes oil cost when farming anywhere below W9 or doing your intial clears on event maps

and if you're enough of a tryhard, hyper optimize currency/oil ratio

[worldly pewter]

daily sp and x3 bonus are included

[sharp hound]

so I understand what its telling me for the task to complete, however when I do this, the task doesn't complete and I'm unsure why

[hushed sorrel]

you can make really oil friendly fleets. like below 15 oil per fight if you look around and min max. even 15 can be "a lot"

[soft raft]

I find that I had to make a fleet from scratch for it to count
it doesnt count fleets you've already made

[sharp hound]

I see

let me try really quick

[hollow quartz]

Oh interesting. What are the most common ones people use?

[soft raft]

UniKai + DDG is a very common 1:1 setup

[boreal wagon]

it counts existing fleets if u readd one of the main fleet ships to it but its a bit finicky and only works after a few times

[hushed sorrel]

i cannot answer that. i never exchanged much knowlegde about their fleets with other. some dd only cost 2 oil per fight if you dont mlb them

your other inactive fleet can help do a lot of dmg with just being passive

[eternal moth]

You can also do Ranger/Cassin or Downes

[hushed sorrel]

its just i dont know "the best". you might want to tackle for example mori or ENDER | Fky High~ or Ryza Collab rerun in July probly

[sharp hound]

alright so I removed all of the fleets that I made and added the required ships then it finished that task

[eternal moth]

If you're going for extremely low level content, 0LB Ranger and Cassin are only 4 oil.

At max level it's 16. Uni/DDG is 20.

[undone plover]

u usually need some crossfleet for min/maxing low oil to the extreme
for beginners just not wasting full oil on easy maps is good enough

[sterile grove]

Trafalgar uses sword aug right?

[quasi nymph]

the zoombie fleet ?

i remeber them to be the cheapest farms but also the most tedious

[eternal moth]

Zombies really aren't worthwhile now that Uni is so good.

[proper patio]

Is this weapon worth the price invested?

[eternal moth]

Yes, but only if you actually need it.

It's only used on a few ships.

[zinc flower]

Guys do i buy the currency for the UR with the rosen emblems, or focus on getting glorius and the UR weap and farm the UR currency from sp and other missions till i get enough?

[eternal moth]

I'd focus everything else first.

[zinc flower]

Like what? The weap first or other stuff?

[eternal moth]

Hold off on getting Glorious until the end of the event, though, as she can drop from B3/D3

[undone plover]

can u clear SP map?

[zinc flower]

Yeah

[eternal moth]

Get everything except for Glorious and the UR tokens

[sweet delta]

Considering your resources I wouldn't recommend it now

[hushed sorrel]

if you play daily and do the quest for 5 points and do other event stuff than you wont need to buy the currency

[eternal moth]

I'd probably recommend saving 8k for Glorious first, and just not spend it, though

[zinc flower]

I was thinking of trying to get the other copy for trafalgar but ig that's unrealistic?

[hushed sorrel]

you dont rec. the 4 items for her mlb?

[eternal moth]

If you can clear SP it shouldn't be hard to get enough for what you need from the shop and then get the second copy

[hushed sorrel]

just play lots. this event last 3 weeks. its doable

[dry tree]

is there any other way for me to get glorious meta copies apart from the shop and summoning?

already at 20k points and she only dropped once

[eternal moth]

I'd get them, but you need the initial copy first. If you get the first one you get to save 8k, and the gems are only 8k total

[undone plover]

the stuff worth buying in that shop is
UR weapon
cog chips
cog arrays
oil
save 8k token for glorious in case she doesnt drop
save 8k token for glorious shards if u plan to use her

augment cores (the big stones worth 300)
Super rare cat boxes (maybe, if u care about cats)

the first UR will be free if u grind everyday
the dupe will require 65 of the special currency
u can decide if u want to go for the dupe or not but it will need some farming
it is recommended to buy if u are low on UR bulins

[eternal moth]

This is a great summary

[undone plover]

since the event is 21+ days u can even maybe justify farming more for the series 7 rainbow prints but up to you where u want to stop

[eternal moth]

You may get a copy of Glorious from the event banner, as well. I did.

[hushed sorrel]

i did too

[zinc flower]

I was thinking of buying the blueprints before the cop chips and arrays ngl

[eternal moth]

So many cubes used this event 😦 Had to go to pity for Lion, and I'm actively going for a specific ship in WW

[eternal moth]

If you need them go for it

[zinc flower]

I have a lot of augment cores and cog chips/arrays so yeah i think i'll focus on the blueprints

[forest palm]

what aux ya'll using to level trafalgar?