gameplay-help

[tidal meteor]

The wait for UR AP gun with Champgun timing continues

[sweet delta]

Glowworm ram lowest HP enemy every 20s and -3s torp reload, and takes maximum 8% HP damage for 3s

[atomic abyss]

rafaello...

[hollow gust]

Lion will prob just replace alsace

[viscid swift]

Also I am once again asking for a refund

[eternal moth]

So you guys are ok giving up 5 damage for a 1s faster reload?

[south sequoia]

though until we can mass produce this gun in I guess 2030, there isn't exactly "powercreep"

[hollow gust]

thats SAP

[eager mulch]

my head canon of Lion gun being AP better vs med and light compared to other AP guns failed

[viscid swift]

smh

[atomic abyss]

i mean you're not using BBs for heavy are you

[slow fox]

Behold! Misinformation!

[south sequoia]

in discussion with other admins you will therefore be banned

[whole crypt]

how's the big cat

[honest sequoia]

So who have a better mlb priority lion or trafalagar

[viscid swift]

not a BB player, you would know British BBs don't have HE

[atomic abyss]

143

what the fu-

[hollow gust]

British BB guns will always fucking HE, stupid he spammers

[south sequoia]

what do these numbers mean

[hollow gust]

from monarch and up they dont use AP guns

[atomic abyss]

well laff2 is 153

[slow fox]

eHP, in Portlands
eAA, in San Diegos (noaug)

[south sequoia]

what the fuck

[eternal moth]

Probably Lion since main fleet > vanguard

[viscid swift]

remind me what was Z52 at again? for AA

[honest sequoia]

I would want a second opinion!

[hybrid pelican]

Trafalgar?

[whole crypt]

traf another b0rken DD?

[south sequoia]

lion

[hybrid pelican]

Who is trafalgar ?

[viscid swift]

the new UR DD

[eager mulch]

The new UR dd

[honest sequoia]

[atomic abyss]

85% for AA, 123% for ehp

[slow fox]

eHP: 123%
AA: 85%

[viscid swift]

uh huh, I was right on that as well then

[atomic abyss]

the bingo chart is getting annihilated

[whole crypt]

as it should

[south sequoia]

Cheeky is eating good this time around

[whole crypt]

any link for CN ⛏️

[viscid swift]

up above somwhere

[south sequoia]

not yet

[atomic abyss]

scroll up for CN text

[south sequoia]

oh oops

[viscid swift]

https://space.bilibili.com/4305299/dynamic

[south sequoia]

I was thinking of actual spreedsheet mining

[slow fox]

Mebot has decided to put a ring on Trafalgar.

[south sequoia]

nothing yet for newb missions update right?

[viscid swift]

oh yeah does anyone have any info on teh rookie misisons

[south sequoia]

listening to the beyonce song

[viscid swift]

and what META mats drop form hard mode now

[slow fox]

mutsuki

[atomic abyss]

uh

cheeky

did lion have a debuff for increasing shell dmg taken

[viscid swift]

not directly

she does buff her main gun damage

[normal cedar]

is there an excel version that samheart posts generally?

[sharp socket]

whats the 100% for AA

[south sequoia]

her debuff is for general dmg taken

[knotty dome]

why is the update schedule so weird?

[atomic abyss]

no aug no kai sandy

[south sequoia]

so all sources

[viscid swift]

if you wanna double check

[atomic abyss]

to happen with CN anni

[atomic abyss]

no

[faint cloud]

seems 10%

[sharp socket]

sandy stock? whats sandy retro at

[soft raft]

CN Anniv + CN Exam season

[faint cloud]

not limited to shelling dmg tho

[knotty dome]

ok thank you both

[tidal meteor]

So at this point are BBs or CVs better against light armour bosses? E.g. YTII with HVARs boosted by ARA vs Lion with her own HE gun boosted by ?

[ember totem]

what's Trafalgar's ehp again in mebot's sheet?

[sharp socket]

143% prelim

[hollow gust]

nothing beats CVS lmao

[atomic abyss]

i doubt it'll change from CVs

[tidal meteor]

rip

[eager mulch]

how is lion main gun damage compare to other ur bb

[sharp socket]

which one of these is sandy retro

[atomic abyss]

not with HVARs and Skyraiders at least

[viscid swift]

gloworm getting MGM+1 is interesting

[atomic abyss]

everything else

[hollow gust]

yorktown and kearsage are absurdly busted against light, nothing matches them

[south sequoia]

am I tripping or did it repeat the debuff twice for increasing the chance they get crit?

[slow fox]

San Diego retro no augment

[atomic abyss]

wtd

[south sequoia]

a 20% increased critical rate debuff??

[atomic abyss]

why does glow get mgm2

[silk helm]

wait there's an update early this week?

[sharp socket]

ty

[atomic abyss]

cheeky

how is the most unlikely square

[weary gust]

So she can shoot you twice as much before running into you.

[ivory pawn]

Machine translation error.

[atomic abyss]

having the most likely chance of being correct

[subtle cave]

W14 Auto team build help

[atomic abyss]

[viscid swift]

no fucking clue

[faint cloud]

10 crit rate, 20 crit dmg

[whole crypt]

LION FIRE

[south sequoia]

Oh thats good

I was worried she would have it be 20 crate as well

iirc, ships do have a base critical rate right?

[whole crypt]

traf looks neat but doesn't look like replacing anything for hardstuffs?

[south sequoia]

just hidden

[eager mulch]

lion power creeping anyone?

[atomic abyss]

traf AA is Z52 tier so lol

[whole crypt]

just check crit calc and dmgcalc

[slow fox]

143 eHP too

Stored in the right places too

[sweet delta]

Quyet is in SHAMBLES

[atomic abyss]

if anything, the AA CLs are the ones getting replaced

[slow fox]

We need a 160% eHP 140% AA CL

[sharp socket]

small boat with giant AA is

[hybrid pelican]

Why?

[whole crypt]

Lion looks neat too who we dropping this time, and did I miss the cross fleet

[normal cedar]

does lion not have a crossfleet? I dont see it written anywhere

[atomic abyss]

she does on s2

[sweet delta]

Lion has cross fleet barrage 18s for first 3 battles

[south sequoia]

she does

end part of 2nd skill

[vale spindle]

not counting the UR ships is there any ship worth to get from heavy in wishing well

*also not counting tech point ships

[sweet delta]

What's in heavy

[south sequoia]

look at my name

[atomic abyss]

vv at best

[whole crypt]

nvm I see it

[atomic abyss]

cleo pls

[vale spindle]

all the current war archive ships meet the date threshold somehow

[south sequoia]

other than the 2 urs the rest of the ships dont look too interesting

[vale spindle]

nvm vanguard event doesn't, all other events do

[south sequoia]

I havent seen anyone post anything for glorious yet

[sharp socket]

who to ww if i have aquila aurora already

[ember totem]

those people aren't glorious

[normal cedar]

is 15 second barrage time like Lion rare?

[whole crypt]

right so who's candidate for replacement with the big cat

[sweet delta]

There are tech stats but nothing meta

[faint cloud]

why always limit the battles of crossfleet

[hollow gust]

alsauce or soyuz

[atomic abyss]

soy

[vale spindle]

can you list the important tech ones

[atomic abyss]

soy will be with nakhi anyways

[south sequoia]

something something abusable in w15

[vale spindle]

for tech points or tech stats

[sharp socket]

does lion have specific skills for different armor types

[normal cedar]

cuz maybe lion can now sync with helena meta?

[south sequoia]

tbh with a shit ton of crossfleets in the game limiting them is gonna make sense because you would have a lot of free dmg/buffs stacked somewhere just by not being in the fleet

[sharp socket]

time to anti heavy with BB again, vanny sushi lion

[whole crypt]

GM still 7 planes

[south sequoia]

ehh

[hybrid pelican]

So Lion would be paired with whom?

[south sequoia]

just use og helena with 2 other good ur vanguards

we've moved so far past beyond helena meta already

[normal cedar]

i see

[atomic abyss]

UR BBs
which ones we dont know

[shy hornet]

They get another debuffer BB?

[stone sluice]

So new UR gun is just a slightly faster New Jersey gun?

[ember totem]

with the powerlevel of rainbows you can even drop helena

[south sequoia]

5 less base dmg, 1s faster reload

[whole crypt]

actually Lion's xflt only works for first 3 battles

[hollow gust]

debuffer BBs with gunpower stronger then musashi

[shy hornet]

[normal cedar]

cleo's high AA stat combined with Air dmg reduce second skill seems really good for w14/15?

[eager mulch]

lion is mgm+2?

[ember totem]

do you think we will get to see a nuttyjack essay?

[atomic abyss]

seems to be

[stark quiver]

why are you not just using helena

[whole crypt]

UR BB without MGM +2 would be disappointing

[atomic abyss]

as i told you before, stats alone are meaningless

[hollow gust]

nah bro is hyped asf

[normal cedar]

i see

[south sequoia]

have we ever had any ur bb anyways without mgm+2

[tidal meteor]

Champagne iirc

[south sequoia]

ur

[eager mulch]

mgm+2 on 170% eff just seems high to me how does her fp compare to others

[eternal moth]

Not a UR

[sharp socket]

champy unfortunately is not UR

[vale spindle]

btw datamine is delayed cause nagami has work but it will be up and out before en server goes to maint don't worry

[tidal meteor]

Oh oop mb, en reading moment

[atomic abyss]

cleo has 130% eff AA
so not good

[sharp socket]

close to sushi

[atomic abyss]

standard for dido class really

[whole crypt]

looks like Lion won't get jam-delayed

[eager mulch]

[eternal moth]

Glowworm's retro skill, is that a 28 second barrage?

[hollow gust]

shes higher then sushi

[sweet delta]

And why are people already replacing soyuz or Alsace when we don't know if Lion's barrage is bad or good

[sharp socket]

the bracket is oathed

[whole crypt]

lmao did they give GW a mog skill copy

[vale spindle]

Wishing Well (5/20/25)

Notes:

1. Event banner has higher priority than Wishing Well, since Events are time-limited and Wishing Well ships are permanent.

2. Picking Light construction ships is preferred since you can build on it for your daily build for free. If you are missing ships from Special/Heavy (notably Submarines), it is fine to pick from those categories instead.

• Be careful about cube spending!

3. You can select a permanent UR ship (New Jersey, Shinano, Shimakaze, Ulrich von Hutten, Kronshtadt, Vanguard); if you select a UR ship, the other UR ships are removed from the build pool entirely. UR build rate remains 1.2% like normal.

• They can be selected for either Heavy or Special.

4. Picking permanent UR ships isn't worth it since they have pity. Better off picking other ships and building pity for permanent UR ships instead.

5. All Wishing Well builds count for UR exchange points at the usual rate.

6. If you already have all the ships listed below, pick ships for tech points / collection, especially from minor factions like NP, RN, FFNF/MNF, SN, DE. The game tells you who you don't have when picking ships!

Best Ships to Pick:

Light:

• Aurora - Top support option against DD / CL bosses.
• Yat Sen - Post-retrofit: top main tank when used alongside 1+ CN ships, and has decent damage.

Heavy:

There is nothing worth here. Only pick this if you need ships for tech points / collection (see point number 6 above).

Special:

• Aquila - Top support CV, especially for campaign stages; acts as a secondary healer with good damage (fighter-mode), or can be played as a damage-focused option (dive bomber-mode; not as recommended).
• Volga - Top support CV, especially for campaign stages; acts as a secondary healer with good damage.

Submarines:

• Archerfish - Top SS in the game. Provides buffs to other USS SS.
• U-81** - Top SS in the game.
• U-47 - Top SS in the game.
• Nautilus - Good SS option to use alongside Archerfish in USS submarine fleets.

Notes

** U-81 is in the Early Summer Invitation 2025, see that pin for more details. If you don't select her there, then its fine to select her here.

[south sequoia]

[atomic abyss]

san fran is fucking dead

[vale spindle]

heavy section literally copy pasted from the may wishing well last year xd

[south sequoia]

its whiplash to see sanfran falling off this quick

[stone sluice]

If Lion has high rld, is she worth to oath?

[south sequoia]

just 4 years ago she was regarded as like the 2nd best ssr ca

[atomic abyss]

no

[vale spindle]

i mean san fran still good

[atomic abyss]

high rld no rld buffs

[south sequoia]

she's still in the top of ssr cas but damn

[atomic abyss]

she's average speed

[hollow gust]

shes slow

[normal cedar]

I don't see the UR BB Gun datamine anywhere? Is it out?

[vale spindle]

the main issue is who tf are you selecting as the 2nd option kekw

[eternal moth]

U-81 is in the invitation, so I'd remove her from the list

[vale spindle]

oh right i should mention that ty

[atomic abyss]

scroll all the way up

[vale spindle]

i won't remove it cause you might select someone else from the invite but i should add disclaimer yes

[sweet delta]

Kazagumo is in medal ship, you should mention that

Avrora is also not good

[vale spindle]

ender can you unpin this and give me 5 minutes i will be back

actually nvm don't unpin it i can just edit the existing message

[atomic abyss]

vv i guess
fast track to napoli/nakhi

[hollow gust]

Alsace 187
Soyuz 192.5
Bismarck 207
Lion 192
Musashi 181
Nj 200

you realize shes slower then everyone but Alsace and Musashi; just not slow enough to be a detriment like musashi

[normal cedar]

found it, thanks

[sweet delta]

In reality she's faster than soyuz

[whole crypt]

what's Lion's barrage's L/M/H

[sweet delta]

What's Lions barrage

[atomic abyss]

no numbers

these CN datamines are solely based on the text itself iirc

[eternal moth]

I should finally be able to get Albion. The only others I need are Suffren and Attilio, neither of which are in wishing well right?

[viscid swift]

she also doesn't suffer from jamming

something that has to be accounted for

[hollow gust]

very likely just gonna fire 2nd after bismarck

[whole crypt]

just thinking whether Kawakaze will be a Lion check but guess not for now

unless there's some strange shit with lion fire against next fight's gimmicks

[fleet berry]

Also Kaza is in the Medal Shop.

[hollow gust]

honestly people should just pick kazagumo/aurora

[ember totem]

the 10% EVA rate is actually debuffing the enemy, it's not buffing herself it seems so would that affect your calcs?

[vale spindle]

i made improvements check the pin again

[slow fox]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[viscid swift]

bonk

[fleet berry]

It has been depinned, by the way.

[forest palm]

so Lion is a better Vanguard is what I'm getting

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[undone plover]

Is she bb specific also?

[viscid swift]

nope

[normal cedar]

where is this pin?? I dont see it

[slow fox]

WHYYYYYYYYYY

[ember totem]

vanguard wasn't BB specific either

[forest palm]

what's Traffy's schtick?

[sweet delta]

What the fuck happened here

[vale spindle]

im working on it now haha just futureproofing cause it will be there eventually

[sharp socket]

[viscid swift]

another one off the bingo

[sweet delta]

-50% eHP

[slow fox]

EVARate was actually -10% on enemy instead of +10% self

[undone plover]

She kinda is
one of her skills is bb specific no?

[atomic abyss]

actually

-10% eva rate

aurora is... dead?

[sweet delta]

And she had 70% Eva rate?

[sharp socket]

how the hell does that remove 50% ehp

[cobalt gate]

Isn’t aurora -25

[slow fox]

Something like that 278 base EVA is a lot

[undone plover]

Aurora is 20%

[atomic abyss]

sirius is dead tho

[fleet berry]

Will they stack?

[atomic abyss]

also consider it's unconditional

unlike sirius or aurora

[sweet delta]

Yeah Sirius has been dying for a long time because she's my main tank

[undone plover]

They should afaik

[viscid swift]

maybe? but it's kinda pointless tbh

even with just Aurora we were already nearing 100% hit rate against Jintsuu

[sharp socket]

sirius relegated to pearl slave and cv buffing from beyond the grave

[slow fox]

I don't like Tralfagar anymore
I hate this event
this sucks

[undone plover]

Sirius + trafalgar could be interesting

[forest palm]

that's literally been her thing since release

[faint cloud]

so you even misspelled her name

[atomic abyss]

no one was actually using her for that at release tho

[eternal moth]

Divorced before even being married. That has to be one of the quickest marriages ever

[sharp socket]

yeah she's called truffles now

[viscid swift]

Trafalgar

any brit will skewer you if you say it otherwise

[slow fox]

-# Please just be a double typo

[sweet merlin]

why is there main on a wednesday?

[sweet delta]

Because it was announced in #game-news

[ember totem]

there isn't because it's on a tuesday
probably have to account for holidays or something else external in china

[hollow gust]

you mean tuesday? there is a maint in 3 hours

[viscid swift]

another one to cross off the bingo

[sweet merlin]

isnt it usally on thursdays?

[vale spindle]

@atomic abyss pin this again

[eternal moth]

There isn't. It's on Tuesday

[sharp socket]

daylight saving day

[soft raft]

they're putting out the update early since it's Exam season in China

[hollow gust]

so? they change it to account for different circumstances

[slow fox]

My last hope is glowworm eHP

[sweet merlin]

why is there on on tuesday sddenly?

[atomic abyss]

CN anni

[sweet merlin]

ah ok

[forest palm]

I assume Manjuu is trying to dance around CN exames, so that's why we have this awkward schedule?

[sweet merlin]

so ur?

[viscid swift]

2

[slow fox]

I don't know how to read this first skill

[viscid swift]

neither do I...

[faint cloud]

any disappointment about trafalgar

[normal cedar]

tafalgar seems underwhelming? skills look more like gold level than ur...

[viscid swift]

what....

[soft raft]

2
Lion is the gacha UR and Trafalgar is the shop UR

[hollow gust]

@viscid swift thats another one, URs being underpowered

[viscid swift]

are you and I looking at the same ships

Ender, cross another one off the list

[undone plover]

Evasion rate debuff is the single best skill in this game

[sharp socket]

-10% eva debuff is not cracked

[ember totem]

stats and MGM don't exist anymore
-10% evasion rate debuff too

[forest palm]

wait...Aurora is dead?

[normal cedar]

its only 10 percent tho

[atomic abyss]

unconditional

thats the danger

aurora, sirius are all conditional

[ember totem]

only 10%

[slow fox]

It's on the enemy, too. Terrible

[atomic abyss]

bristol has limited area of effect

[undone plover]

That is still a lot
I think that translates to sth like 12.5% dmg increase on average
Higher with higher evasion enemies

[faint cloud]

*within the area

[normal cedar]

woah 12.5%?!?

[atomic abyss]

need to see how big area admittedly

[undone plover]

idk tbh I just did 10/80
not sure the math is exactly correct

[slow fox]

Mebot approved

[stark quiver]

idek what math yall are doing

[undone plover]

When pilica wakes up I will ask him for the math

[viscid swift]

and you're on a ship with very good AA and not completely made of paper

[plain saffron]

Are lion good

[atomic abyss]

very

[viscid swift]

we haven't even looked at her own damage

[hollow gust]

another CV buffer lets gooooo

[plain saffron]

170 eff is high or average

[viscid swift]

hi plz forget to do event, I need to cross off a bingo slot

[atomic abyss]

way above average

[plain saffron]

So high and 4 mgm

[atomic abyss]

fdg is 160

[hollow gust]

everyday the goated class gets more busted support ships

[viscid swift]

3 MGM

[atomic abyss]

3mgm that side loads like alsace

[plain saffron]

[ember totem]

devs fear nuttyjack content

[viscid swift]

and there's another one crossed off

[plain saffron]

Wtf are my script broken

[atomic abyss]

i've ticked that square 3x already cheeky

[plain saffron]

What bingo did i miss

[eternal moth]

^^

[hollow gust]

wait pass me the bingo, i wanna play

[atomic abyss]

you'll see

[sharp socket]

[viscid swift]

yeah...

[stark quiver]

[atomic abyss]

all i can say is

[gusty olive]

My hms fleet is gonna eat good it seems

[ember totem]

hi nagami

[atomic abyss]

somehow, this is the square that is most likely accurate

[plain saffron]

hi chien

[jaunty vault]

hi chien

[hollow gust]

QE sucks donkeyballs still

[atomic abyss]

i mean excluding trafalgar to be clear

[jaunty vault]

chat is maintained over

[atomic abyss]

i shd edit that

[gusty olive]

Gameplay wise, yeah

[normal cedar]

does "flagship launches a cross fire main gun" mean crossfleet barrage? for traffy 2nd skill

[gusty olive]

But I'm talking about the new URs lol

[ember totem]

better than trafalgar

[eternal moth]

Nubian's pretty good right? Any idea how Glowworm compares?

[viscid swift]

no clue

[atomic abyss]

glow has mgm2

[viscid swift]

anyway, what 120 tech did the 2 purples give

[plain saffron]

So lion have 6 total?

[viscid swift]

feelinga lazy

[atomic abyss]

correction

[plain saffron]

3 + 3 parallel load

[atomic abyss]

glow has, 120% eff with mgm2?

nubian is 110% with mgm2

[eternal moth]

So does Nubian, but her eff is only 110

[sharp socket]

whats parallel load

[atomic abyss]

alsace

[hollow gust]

HMS is the 3rd faction to have a full rainbow fleet

[plain saffron]

Wait wtf am i talking

[sharp socket]

so preload?

[atomic abyss]

no

[jaunty vault]

no

[viscid swift]

135%

[plain saffron]

Yeah it's parallel 2 base mgm

[atomic abyss]

side load

[sharp socket]

i don't understand

[viscid swift]

95 base FP stat though

[normal cedar]

hp+speed for gallant
hp+hit for trinidad
I think

[molten zinc]

it mean she can stock salvo like Alsace? is that rite

[plain saffron]

2 "gun" load independently, with each shot 3 guns
So 3 + 3

[jaunty vault]

its ok patpat

[hollow gust]

Okay last time ** Lion reloads one at a time , however when she finish reloading one , she can keep reloading 2nd. Other BBs stop reloading after first fully loaded **

Lion can store 1 reload of main gun

[jaunty vault]

ew

[plain saffron]

Gascogne or champagne

[viscid swift]

speed isn't a 120 stat so probably eva

[plain saffron]

Ouh nvm i see now lol

[viscid swift]

but than you

[sharp socket]

so it double fires?

[undone plover]

It is like hanger capacity for CV

[viscid swift]

she;'s like Alsace

[plain saffron]

It's that french UR like

[viscid swift]

where she can store 2 salvos like a CV can store 2 airstrikes

[plain saffron]

Mine is wrong

[sharp socket]

all i know is that alsace has preload

[undone plover]

Mgm3 cant double fire
That would be 2x dmg of every BB we have

[plain saffron]

What else should i do so you can get bingo

[stark quiver]

alsace can stack her loads

[shy hornet]

TLDR pee is stored in the balls

[sharp socket]

i don't know what else she does in the gun loading department

[plain saffron]

She can store 2 load

[hollow gust]

Actually just say she loads like a CV

[jaunty vault]

wtf no it's not

[stone sluice]

What’s new ships tech?

[viscid swift]

in other words, they don't suffer from jamming affecting their reload times on follow up salvos

[sharp socket]

oh ok i understand that

[plain saffron]

Is there event ending today?

[undone plover]

They still get jammed during 1 rotation

[shy hornet]

Uh

[wind hazel]

call to arm phase 1

but no, no event ending today

[hollow gust]

Actually the pee thing actually works , normal BBs can only store 1 pee, lion can store 2

[ember totem]

[faint cloud]

being a lion helps

[sharp socket]

i see

[split moon]

[ember totem]

Inb4 someone makes this a visual like Abercrombie MGM

[wind hazel]

good for manual play i guess?

[hollow gust]

Indeed

[sharp socket]

wait no that emote is bad for this metaphor

[plain saffron]

But no preload right?

[eager mulch]

[normal cedar]

is my translate tweaking or does she actually debuff herself? wtf

[shy hornet]

The lion does not concern herself with being jam loaded

[hollow gust]

It's the same amount of pee, but she can pee later

[gusty olive]

Pee reserve

[shy hornet]

Peeserve

[atomic abyss]

any more pee jokes

and i'll make sure urine deep trouble

[molten zinc]

[plain saffron]

Ender pls

[split moon]

[hollow gust]

Unironically a good example for how the mechanic works is hilarious

[atomic abyss]

tl stoopid

[normal cedar]

thank god

[elfin nimbus]

Yep. No preload. After her main gun finish loading she fire 2 like gascogne or champagne

[plain saffron]

Now I'm more confused

[slow fox]

9 mgm?

[undone plover]

That is wrong
She can store 2
She doesnt reload 2 at the same time

[hollow gust]

Lion mechanic works the same as CVs

She can store a salvo to use for later , and she will reload next salvo

normal BBs must fire salvo in order for next one to start loading

[molten zinc]

wait what is the 2/1/3 on her MGM in the CN datamine tho?

[plain saffron]

So just store 2 charges type, not parallel type right

[sharp socket]

you're gonna have more mgm than tempesta at this rate

[hollow gust]

Yes like a CV

[plain saffron]

Uhm technically not all CV does rhat

[hollow gust]

Bruh......

[slow fox]

shut up nerd

[shy hornet]

We don’t have any barrage info yet?

[viscid swift]

not yet

[hollow gust]

If you don't wanna use CV example then we can go back to urine in bladder

[shy hornet]

Please no

[hollow gust]

Exactly

[sharp socket]

ender is still here guys

[plain saffron]

Her gun can store 2 charges instead of 1

[atomic abyss]

i wanted to take a nap

and i cant because y'all pissing each other off

literally

[brave flame]

do we have datamine sheet guys?

[atomic abyss]

no

[jaunty vault]

wake Yuki up

[brave flame]

ok

[atomic abyss]

he is awake

[hollow gust]

You are worse then us 🤢

[storm heron]

datamine usually wednesday

[atomic abyss]

and he's arguing with me about the bingo

[jaunty vault]

is he too shy for gph now

[viscid swift]

Lion: +1 BB FP
Trafalgar: +1 DD Hit
Trinidad: +1 CL HIT
Gallant: +1 DD EVA
Cleopatra: +2 CL AA
Glorious META: +1 CV RLD
all at 120

[hollow gust]

Maint is TN

[storm heron]

wait what

[viscid swift]

yes

[storm heron]

did something happen

[viscid swift]

does no one read the patch notes

[fluid pike]

depends on time zone and if extended maint or not

[jaunty vault]

reading? whats that

[viscid swift]

CN Anni and exams

[viscid swift]

I'll show you later

[slim brook]

what are some good auxiliary for unzen?

[split moon]

which ones are worth leveling

[hollow gust]

Gaokao should be first week of June

[atomic abyss]

glorious and lion

[storm heron]

azur lane respect gaokao?

[undone plover]

Rudder + toolkit generally
Oxytorp when bossing and if she doesnt need defensive auxes

[sharp socket]

rudder toolkit

[atomic abyss]

rudder + HP aux
swap in oxy if you have no issue surviving

[plain saffron]

In few minutes

[hollow gust]

~~I'm flying to China in June , it's gonna be a blast to see crying kids ~~

[jaunty vault]

azur lane fears the CN malders

[faint cloud]

says that lion's burn is spread to the whole field when the enemy died not just the one near it

and dmg 1.7k/dot?

[viscid swift]

sounds normal

considering British BBs in WoWs

[ember totem]

For 4 years now yes

[viscid swift]

and the devs at least were WoWs players

[sharp socket]

woe be upon ye, 3 fires per salvo

[slow fox]

Why isn't maint TEX

[hollow gust]

Cause no one likes maints

[plain saffron]

why nobody say anything about equips

[sharp socket]

we have mk7 sidegrade

[faint cloud]

already talked at the beginning🐌

[viscid swift]

oh yeah speaking of which

does anyone know anything about the new rookie missions

or what META mats the hard mode stages are gonna drop

[cobalt gate]

the rookie thing is next week update right

[eager mulch]

short fuse AP neglected

[atomic abyss]

tonight

[cobalt gate]

hmm guess i have to get all the rookie mission rewards now

[sharp socket]

why have you guys not collected your rookie mission rewards

[storm heron]

real

[cobalt gate]

well before it made that whole thing dissapear, not sure if it ever changed

[atomic abyss]

the real thing is that most people dont check patch notes

[tidal meteor]

Pretty sure I cleared mine, but it's be nice if someone can share a screenshot for me to check

[cobalt gate]

ok finally can go back to chapter 15 farming

[rapid grail]

is lion the squishiest UR BB we have?

[plain saffron]

🚮 drops

[soft raft]

Emden event hasnt been archived yet right

[cobalt gate]

i mean the last good drop was yorktown event

[atomic abyss]

And another bingo that can't be filled...

Well, Corsair is good for new players

[whole crypt]

squishy how

[soft raft]

ig WA is every other month now at this point cuz it kinda feels like it shouldnt be on here still lol

[atomic abyss]

Isn't she super tanky if anything....?

[faint cloud]

and the 'good' drop became a nightmare i think, so actually not having a good mapdrop is a mental treatment

[rapid grail]

well compared to the other UR BBs

[cobalt gate]

btw how is the new ur gun?

[rapid grail]

HP, Evasion

[whole crypt]

she has reductions but base HP a wee bit lower I think, not that it's lower by a relevant amount

[sharp socket]

mk7 sidegrade, 5 less damage 1s faster reload

[chrome storm]

Best torp bomber in gold?

[cobalt gate]

hmm

[wind hazel]

cn is saying upgrade

[whole crypt]

EVA is par

[storm heron]

does the 1s allow more salvo

[honest sequoia]

Is the new HE UR gun limited or its also gear labable

[atomic abyss]

For campaign/events
Breguet

[whole crypt]

above average actually

[atomic abyss]

Limited

[rapid grail]

it was about 3-4 years long since nj gun debuted and got into gear lab

not yet, soon™️

[whole crypt]

go look up wiki, BBs have pretty rubbish EVA

[atomic abyss]

BCs have higher eva

[molten zinc]

5 base dmg lower, 5 higher mod against light (145 vs 140), about 1s faster reload, 16 splash vs MK7 15, higher shell speed (12 vs 10 for standard HE shell)

[honest sequoia]

Im still waiting for AFCT

[whole crypt]

actually at a glance isn't Lion the highest EVA UR BB

[molten zinc]

basically MK7 but more accurate and faster also

[atomic abyss]

At this rate we'll get a BB with Eva rate

[whole crypt]

so yeh, definitely not squisiy

[reef flume]

Datamines out?

[whole crypt]

CN

[plain saffron]

spec core in medal shop increased by how much?

[ember totem]

pvp meta confirmed

[viscid swift]

2k more

[tidal meteor]

Samheart still putting the excel file tgt

[plain saffron]

ok so it will be separate one

[reef flume]

Send

[rapid grail]

Second squishiest BB, only above Warspite Retrofit

[cobalt gate]

but she has like 30% dmg reduction thats almost always on i think?

[drowsy kite]

what strategy is the best. the single line?

[wind hazel]

double line

[soft raft]

Double line everywhere outside of W13

[wind hazel]

circular if you in plane hell

[drowsy kite]

k

[soft raft]

Circular for W13
Maybe W15 if you're struggling with AA

[plain saffron]

usually double, circle when need AA, single if you can survive and want to minmax more dmg i guess

[molten zinc]

single line because I live dangerously

[cobalt gate]

i mean cicular maybe for chap 15

[plain saffron]

no way they actually do a decent tutorial

[viscid swift]

ohhhh

[vale spindle]

you would think the paragraph skill of the event would be on the URs, but its actually on glorious meta

[viscid swift]

finally wehave some info

[soft raft]

No way
big if true

[viscid swift]

well they said they would be integrating the explanations into the rookie missions

and such

[plain saffron]

unfortunately not the interactive tutorial (based on the files count no way they do this for all tutorials), just pictures

[cobalt gate]

am i missing something? thougth the newcomer thing goes away once i got all the rewards

[plain saffron]

there will be new version of those

[viscid swift]

yeah they said they would be shortening that

[random summit]

New gun

[viscid swift]

we know

[plain saffron]

but it uses new shop image so idk how about actual new player

[viscid swift]

you're a bit late

[rapid grail]

this the beginner missions?

1. forgot alr
2. im playing on jp alt

[plain saffron]

there's everything, even the TB simulator

daily stage, mail, guild boss

[viscid swift]

yes

[plain saffron]

"new" jukebox ui

[gusty olive]

Ze fuck?

[jaunty vault]

who even uses those

[viscid swift]

I believe the official term is "fuck all"

[plain saffron]

ew wtf

[viscid swift]

hmmmmmm

[gusty olive]

What songs are added lol?

[molten zinc]

why psycho would feed lv10 ship

[plain saffron]

it's in patch notes, like 5 event iirc

[elfin nimbus]

This be awesome if we don't need to see double copies

[plain saffron]

looks like the newbiew guide is just. long desc + pictures

[viscid swift]

what

[wind hazel]

most important part is, can we skip the guide?

[civic oak]

I'm surprised by how much I understand of that given I can't read a lick of Chinese, but I gotta check, is it HE?

[viscid swift]

yes

[plain saffron]

some is retroactive i think because there's missions like 100% chapter 1-1

[civic oak]

Well, so was the gun I was gonna put on her if we didn't get a new one, so I guess it's fine.

[cobalt gate]

too bad no good cross fleet this time

[faint cloud]

cn ur barrages spreadsheet is up

[civic oak]

That's not normal.

[drowsy kite]

do you automatically lose if one of the girls in the back dies?

[plain saffron]

like this

[viscid swift]

my dude, your cope for making your W15 grind easier ain't happening

[plain saffron]

if the flagship, middle one, dies

[rapid grail]

aight ty. Sad I'll be missing out on them bcs I haven't raised Nelson on it yet

[whole crypt]

just don't do it and stay a newcomer

[mellow cape]

Update TN?

[viscid swift]

he spam baby

[mellow cape]

Also, finally got 2nd la 9, third la 9 now?

[whole crypt]

devs still hate HMS for sure

[gusty olive]

inhales

HMS always gets the short end of the stick

[mellow cape]

I almost want to stop at 3... Can fritz equip 1 or 2 la 9s

[viscid swift]

2

[whole crypt]

I'm just thinking whether that burn will be something for Kawakaze showdown

[mellow cape]

Fawk

I might not make it to 4 by the time pr8 hits...

[wind hazel]

just get as many as you can

[knotty garnet]

FINALLY

[normal cedar]

burn meta incoming? maybe sortie with burn dmg boosters will help

[hollow gust]

Classic wows HMS BB

[viscid swift]

What burn damage boosters

[tame orchid]

After bis rerun it should be guam and then soyuz right?

[normal cedar]

unzen

[molten zinc]

Unzen first

[viscid swift]

Unzen will be between

[civic oak]

Can Lion come back from the dead twice over, though?

[viscid swift]

And that's not accounting for the non UR events

[normal cedar]

idk, are there any ships that boost burn dmg taken by enemies?

if yes then maybe tey will help is what i was saying

[viscid swift]

Not that I know of

[mellow cape]

Lion is focused on burn DMG??

[viscid swift]

And any that may exist almost certainly won't be worth using

[hollow gust]

Burn is to supplement her absurd gun damage

[mellow cape]

Damn so she is 100% worth rolling for

[viscid swift]

3 X 170% main guns

[hollow gust]

All URs are no matter what

[viscid swift]

And higher FP stat than Musashi

[normal cedar]

its 200% after mlb right? or 170

[mellow cape]

Dang wtf

[forest palm]

Lion incredibly overtuned

[viscid swift]

Plus a ton of buffs and debuffs

[mellow cape]

What about tra?

[viscid swift]

That's at MLB

The devs aren't quite that demented yet

[reef flume]

For any1 about Lion

[normal cedar]

40% damage reduction is insane

[mellow cape]

What about Trafalgar?

[hollow gust]

She merely replaces our best debuffers

[mellow cape]

And who would that be :0

[wind hazel]

me

[mellow cape]

[reef flume]

Ig shes more on damage rather than support

[hollow gust]

She can replace Aurora and Sirius

[mellow cape]

Damnnnn

Finally aurora can go from my light fleet

[hollow gust]

Universal debuff is so fucking strong

[inner delta]

nah dont look at it as "overtune" more like a "fresh product of new year"

[eager mulch]

ur creep yay

[hollow gust]

Honestly when has HMS gatcha UR ever not been overtuned

[gray berry]

one of UR BB of all time

[gusty olive]

grins at Vanguard and Lion in same fleet

[viscid swift]

Ehh

[drowsy kite]

I got unicorn but how is she supposed to heal

[inner delta]

creep is needed to keep people in

[viscid swift]

Just kick Vanguard to the curb

[hollow gust]

Her skills

[drowsy kite]

She just shoots some missiles (i think...)

[hollow gust]

Vanny finally powercreeped by her own friends

[gusty olive]

Better than using Warspite lol (yes faction fleet)

[forest palm]

friendly fire one would say

[reef flume]

So Lion powercrept Vanny?

[viscid swift]

She's damn near one of the best UR BBs for damage

[fringe sail]

Hmm
Now I wonder
Ain't Pittsburgh red skill is to armor break the enemy hit with the burn? Would it complement Lion then? (I don't understand much)

[hollow gust]

She has Musashi gundamage with Vanny caliber debuffs 100year design

[viscid swift]

Pittsburg isn't that good

[hollow gust]

Pittsburg is a mid ship, her armor break would never be worth it

[vale spindle]

What ship should I get from the Early Summer Invitation 2025?

1. If you are missing multiple ships from this list, choose waifu, or someone who fills a role that you are lacking. Here is a description of all the ships, for reference:

• Sovetskaya Belorussiya* - Good flagship damage-oriented BB. Can be a sidegrade / downgrade to other easily accessible options. Mainly for tech points.
• Graf Zeppelin - Good mobbing-oriented CV with KMS support, but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options. Has unique augment. Mainly for tech points.
• Illustrious* - Support-oriented CV with decent damage. Top option for W15 CV Support fleet. Has unique augment.
• Taihou - Great damage-oriented CV, especially when paired with Shinano and/or Amagi(CV). Has unique augment.
• Formidable* - Good support-oriented CV that can freeze enemies. Can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options.
• Chapayev - Good damage-oriented CL who additionally increases Vanguard Fleet damage. Has unique augment.
• Baltimore* - Great support CA; buffs USS CVs, and applies a universal debuff to all enemies. Also has great damage. Has unique augment.
• U-81 - Top SS in the game.

*These ships are available in the Medal Shop, so they have lower priority compared to other options available.

2. If you are missing one of the ships in the ticket, just pick the chosen one.

3. If you have all of the ships above, pick the ship who isn't at max limit break in your dock. That saves a bulin to limit break.

4. If you have all of the ships above at max limit break, either spend it on a ship you already have to save bulins, or save the ticket in your depot for a rainy day, your choice.

made by samheart564

[viscid swift]

You wouldn't use her over the usual options

[reef flume]

Lower, but it's still the 2nd highest base fp stat among URs. Just need to see if her barrage is busted or no

[viscid swift]

Uhhh

[hollow gust]

She has better then Musashi gun damage? Her efficiency is through the roof

[viscid swift]

U81, bellorussiya, and Formidable are gacha only sam

[reef flume]

I was talking only stat-wise tho

[hollow gust]

170% efficiency will trump any tiny ass fp advantage

[reef flume]

Still 170% is op fr

[hollow gust]

Eff is part of stats

[reef flume]

I need info on her barrage tho

[forest palm]

still not sure what Trafalgar does, also is Cleo good

[molten zinc]

rainbow Bristol for short

[forest palm]

that tells me nothing

[hollow gust]

Trafalgar is a UR DD with eva rate debuff for any ship

So she will replace the usual Aurora and Sirius spam for any fleet

[forest palm]

better Aurora then

[hollow gust]

Ofc, Aurora doesn't debuff stuff other then DDs and CLs

[honest sequoia]

Sirius getting replaced???

[vale spindle]

A Rose on the High Tower

Links

• Datamine (5/20): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vShvk-Bi2DfTJ8-tiwOMKcsZKYicIfVD91wuUt0WvlHhPAC9s-x17xdaq_6EUeZyhEuVntB8cu1Jt3s/pubhtml
  • contains ships, skills, equipment etc.
  • contains barrage information for all new ships!
  • contains shop priority!

FAQ:

How to toggle stage difficulty?

#event-faq or #al-general message

SSR Ship Invitation? Wishing Well?

See pins below this one for more details.

How do I get Trafalgar? What are UR Vouchers?

• UR Voucher Rewards

  • Trafalgar (copy 1) - 200 vouchers
  • Trafalgar (copy 2) - 300 vouchers
  • Any leftover can be exchanged in the Event Shop for coins.

• UR Voucher Acquisition

  • Event Daily Missions - 5 vouchers/day (23 days, so 115 vouchers/event)
  • Clear SP - 5 vouchers/clear (23 clears, so 115 vouchers/event)
  • Event Minigame Rewards - 105 vouchers/event
  • Event Mission "Clear B3/D3 with a new Event Ship" - 10 vouchers/ship (5 ships, so 50 vouchers/event)
  • Event Mission "Clear SP" - 50 vouchers/event
  • Event Shop - 500 vouchers/event

• Total: 435 vouchers/event (Plus Event Shop)

Oil Cap?

Oil Cap is on all D stages, and is 35 mob, 47 boss, 16 sub for D3. Do /oilcap in #bot-spam for more information.

Best Stages to Farm?

D3 > D1 > C2 > B3 > highest stage.

• Make sure to do the SP stage once a day!
• You can toggle between stages in the bottom left corner of the popup when you select a stage.

Should I pull for these ships?

Reasons you should pull for the ships, in no particular order:

• Waifu
• Collection
• Better than majority of permanent options at their hull type (only for gold/rainbow ships, check datamine for ship information).
• It's a UR event, what more do I need to say!

more information coming soon tm

[honest sequoia]

Does it stack with implap eva debuff?

[civic oak]

Holy hell that is some high efgficiency and low HP!

[vale spindle]

the voucher calc is incorrect but i can't math if someone wants to math voucher totals plz ping me with final maths

mainly cause event is longer than normal thats why

[honest sequoia]

170% effiency x 3 ???

[hollow gust]

Lmao Lion has a 30% damage reduction

[reef flume]

What about barrage info?

[stone sluice]

Trafalgar ASW stat

[honest sequoia]

Is lion gonna deal more than sushi

[drowsy kite]

I see, her healing is so bad like 5%, I don't even notice it. is she really the best healer?

[hollow gust]

She is

[vale spindle]

when thorin decides to do it when he becomes free

[hollow gust]

Any decent barrage pls , she is gonna be so bustedddddddddd

[vale spindle]

hes EU based so he should wake up within the next hour or two and do it unless hes actually busy

[mellow cape]

If your fleet can kill fast enough, a preload and whatever DMG you take during the fight often lets you stay at full HP. Unicorn 5% is op

Preload BBS and CV with unicorn is bread and butter

[vale spindle]

can someone link me cn datamine i need to scrape glowworm retrofit

[wind hazel]

Voucher

• daily: 5 per day, 23 days, 115 total
• SP: 5 per clear, 23 clears, 115
• minigame: 105
• D3 missions: 50
• clear SP: 50
• shop: 500

935 total

might be wrong

[faint cloud]

it does say it's when firing a salvo not airstike

[drowsy kite]

i can't kill all the enemies and have enough hp left for the boss

[vale spindle]

i just copied from last years event already xd

[normal cedar]

U81 is part of the best wolfpack sub fleet rn right? or did she get replaced by 101

[wind hazel]

[vale spindle]

so ur saying the translation is incorrect?

[whole crypt]

yes

[mellow cape]

Are your ships maxed out? And it also is ship dependent / node dependent

[wind hazel]

part of. 101 replaces 37/47

[viscid swift]

uhh, Sam you guys forgot Glowworm Retrofit

[wind hazel]

glow

[viscid swift]

yeah I saw that already

[vale spindle]

nagami dead and the automated script nagami gave me does not do retrofits cause nagami didn't code that functionality yet so i need to scrape cn for it

[viscid swift]

just wanted to be able to read her skills without having an annurism

[wind hazel]

no i mean sam asked for it

[faint cloud]

'发动跨射主炮攻击' so it didn't mention the airstrike

[civic oak]

...Is that an MGM+1?

[viscid swift]

yes

[mellow cape]

So is the gun good for HE DMG and heavy armor I'm assuming?

[civic oak]

...Bye, DD blueprints.

[wind hazel]

no HE is good vs Light

[mellow cape]

Oh fuck, sorry.. ap

[vale spindle]

can u compare the wording to watarase here just to double check plz 🙏🏽

[whole crypt]

20s moggy ram, for 3s if take 8% then 2s invul, if kill heal 10%

[faint cloud]

'发动跨射主炮攻击' vs
'发动空袭或主炮武器'

[vale spindle]

ty

[vale spindle]

btw do u know if bb salvo includes ddg missile strike when they are in main fleet

rainbow torp is added to gear lab, and thats next week or 2 weeks from now

[whole crypt]

what torp eq

[civic oak]

Well, I hope I got enough cubes. They're gonna butcher my arm to make it work again in the morning, so we'll find out Wednesday.

[faint cloud]

sadly im not an expert so

[vale spindle]

is ok ty for ur help

[whole crypt]

if lab that's shimatorps "archiving"

[brisk turtle]

what should i spend my tokens on in opsi

[whole crypt]

new shop or old shop

[civic oak]

Wish me luck on my pulls and my surgery!

Ciao!

[golden moth]

Si datamine up or later tonight

[eternal moth]

Good luck! Surgery on my finger when I snapped it was bad enough, I can't imagine going through re-setting an arm.

[wind hazel]

the frame, for anyone interested 🥹

[eternal moth]

Pretty

[wind hazel]

i just realize it's already in the game anyway

[whole crypt]

if old shop everything, if new shop everything except adapts and meta materials essentially

[brisk turtle]

im not very far in my gear lab
or really anything

[whole crypt]

frame data was last week when CTA started

[whole crypt]

which is why you buy basically everything, but should be safe to skip blue and maybe purple mats

[faint cloud]

also the 'All enemies -15% TRP CRIT Rate; -30% TRP CRIT DMG' kinda problematic cuz it implys that other ally ships can also have trp dmg reduction but it's only applied to lion

[molten zinc]

anti pvp torp meme

[stark quiver]

damn ig i need to get a ring

[ionic kraken]

how many cubes is a good number to have for the ur event?

[stark quiver]

400

[whole crypt]

actually lion 🔥 sounds pog for pvp

so Lion might actually be changing pvp meta

[stark quiver]

she doesnt have preload right

[viscid swift]

correct

[stark quiver]

hmm, with eld in the meta, maybe lion kills

[stone sluice]

What about glow retrofit?

[stark quiver]

uhmm, she isnt half bad i heard

[whole crypt]

pirated mog

[hollow gust]

Hp bit low no? Musashi might crit her out

[stone sluice]

[soft raft]

Aliexpress ver

[storm olive]

30% damage reduction and self eva buff

[stark quiver]

not getting torp fucked first 3 seconds is a blessing

[hollow gust]

Wait that damage reduction basically procs the moment game starts , barrage is instant

I fucking love this ship

[gusty olive]

🔥

[hollow gust]

Overtuned to the moon and back

[whole crypt]

devs still hate HMS

[hollow gust]

When have the devs ever gave HMS a bad gatcha UR

[gusty olive]

I think they meant in other aspects

[viscid swift]

According to some Vanguard was undertuned on release

Won't name names but

[hollow gust]

Ironblood rainbows have a habit of getting powercreeped

[hollow gust]

Well he understands now and hyped asf for lion, all we have left are the game feedback peeps that hate her design

[zenith heron]

GG Zwei I guess?

[whole crypt]

VG was incredibly long-lived for her niche, they say HMS drought and Impla already reran but she reran with no replacement

[hollow gust]

Nah zwei is really strong , black hole stonks

[whole crypt]

but you know, got to blame the devs for irrelevant reasons

[zenith heron]

I guess still gonna wait, we still all speculating despite the datamine, and skills are still promising, typical for a UR

[viscid swift]

I mean

[hollow gust]

No need to speculate 170% eff

[viscid swift]

What more do you need, we even have her barrage numbers

[whole crypt]

Lionpog

[hollow gust]

How are those actually

[viscid swift]

Her burn is also ridiculous

[hollow gust]

Lionbarrage pog?

[whole crypt]

lion 🔥 🔥 🔥

[storm olive]

How does it compare to Alsace burn

[zenith heron]

barrage numbers? Now this I wanna see

[vale spindle]

barrage numbers are on datamine too

[hollow gust]

She is gonna get wifed up in 10 hours

[viscid swift]

Like

What is this ship

And I thought Libertard was dumb

[sweet delta]

code says Trafalgar requires main gun salvo on flag

[whole crypt]

I don't know PvP maybe replace Soy, boss comps not sure if it brings BB comps back, also waiting for next showdown

[vale spindle]

yes i fixed the datamine to account for that, the description was mistranslated cn also said "main gun salfo"

[hollow gust]

2x1x10x20 is gonna wipe the screen

[vale spindle]

but i guess ddg missiles don't work then 😔

[normal cedar]

lion is good for both heavy and light? also both mob and boss?

[zenith heron]

boi you don't even need to worry about a preload

[hollow gust]

It's a UR BB, that's not even a question

[twilit crow]

is new lion gun literally just slightly faster mk7

[storm olive]

Timing sidegrade

[normal cedar]

replacement to mk6 purple right?

[hollow gust]

Well yeah

[fleet berry]

Even Alsace and Nyakhimov are not straight replacements for Vanguard and Implac. Well, maybe Soyuz + Alsace together, but yeah.

[twilit crow]

rainbow mk7 (?)

[whole crypt]

yep but according to some folks devs hate HMS, so

I'm not saying I agree

[inner delta]

stop reading feedback channel

[whole crypt]

I actually don't read that channel very much but reddit has lots of it

[fleet berry]

Stop reading Reddit. We have our usual doomposters there. Plural.
I said this, but I'm active on the megathread.

[gusty olive]

Atleast they trying to beat the allegations this time lol

[inner delta]

its the same people

[vale spindle]

usually i post the datamines to reddit first so i can get reddit karma

[gusty olive]

Full sweep even

[whole crypt]

do eet

[vale spindle]

i post to both of them

usually one gets like 100 upvotes and the other like 30

[hollow gust]

Reddit has room temp iq

[sweet delta]

Lion with Mk.II outdamages NJ with champ gun on medium. Plus she has the 10% fleet buff

[viscid swift]

Case in point

[sweet delta]

*case in point

[hollow gust]

So her with he gun beats nj on ap, against medium damage

[twilit crow]

when are we going to get true rainbow 20s ap gun

[blissful hamlet]

Trafalgar is Z52 killer

[hollow gust]

Another bingo checked off

" Dumb serenity take "

[blissful hamlet]

Time to ditch both Z52 and plymouth

[stark quiver]

u gonna take that goose?

[hollow gust]

Serenity with less IQ then Reddit

So 20C/2

[blissful hamlet]

Is the new gun a mk7 sidegrade?

Mid gun

What's the tech of new ships?

[ember totem]

omg big serenity fan here

[blissful hamlet]

I can see Z52 being replaced with Trafalgar

[dreamy blade]

does MLBing meta ships count towards collection%

[stark quiver]

no

[blissful hamlet]

Plymouth, janus with oath skin, and Trafalgar will be the best vanguard for HMS BB fleet

[vale spindle]

u know what the acquisition bonus is

[cobalt gate]

collection % is only getting the ship, meta still have tech bonus

[viscid swift]

Let me get them for you

[dreamy blade]

oh so all mlb doesnt matter for collection%? i know they have tech am just wondering if i should bother mlbing them since they can go to 120 without it

[vale spindle]

for ships that can go to lvl 120 without mlb, you can get their tech without having to lb them once kek

[hollow gust]

Only acquisition and retrofit matters in %

[zenith stag]

I'm torn on whether to reset this

[stark quiver]

at this point just keep it as a trophy

[viscid swift]

Lion: +2 BB HP
Trafalgar: +1 DD HP
Cleopatra: +1 CL HP
Glorious META: +2 CV HP
Trinidade: +1 CL HP
Gallant: +1 DD HP

yep, all HP

[cobalt gate]

lol they really want the 120 grind

[twilit crow]

do we know anything about the 2k gold equip yet

[normal cedar]

unironically tho is this true? lion, ply and traffy will work together in same fleet?

maybe cleo traffy ply?

[ember totem]

PRake

[normal cedar]

oh ye i forgor drake existed lol

[honest sequoia]

Which drake

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1336173356222906472.webp?size=56

[ember totem]

[blissful hamlet]

Traffy is there to solely buff plymouth

[shy hornet]

[dreamy blade]

are there any vg bb buffers besides ply

[twilit crow]

can traffy asw carry

[molten zinc]

280 ASW so yes

[strong tartan]

does this stack when you save salvos

[hollow gust]

It should

[zenith heron]

within the hype of Lion though, since we always thought of using the best, where will be Lion be going? Mob or Boss in OPSI?

[wind hazel]

well i mean people rarely even use bb for mob opsi nowadays

[zenith heron]

fair

[wind hazel]

better question would be who gets the boot in triple bb comp

[forest palm]

Lion seems like a permanent slot in BB fleets next to BZ

[wind hazel]

soyuz out?

[stark quiver]

depends

[fleet berry]

I assume to BB bossing replacing Soyuz, so she can permanently stick with Nyak?

So,
BB: BZ/Alsace/Lion
CV Med: Soyuz/Nyak/Fritz
CV Heavy: Amagi/Shinano/Implac?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[strong tartan]

soyuz go bye bye

[stark quiver]

thats kinda a good idea, but vanguard go

[strong tartan]

everytime a new ur bb comes out vanguard is in line

[stark quiver]

vangaurd as in frontline

[strong tartan]

silly me

[hollow gust]

Every time Vanguard survives the attempted powercreep

[normal cedar]

lion might work well with zwei instead of replacing her? since i was gonna roll for zwei too

[shy hornet]

Tbf that 20% debuff is wild

[wind hazel]

zwei wont be replaced anytime soon, as long as blackhole has no substitute

[strong tartan]

every backliner works well with bz

[strong tartan]

charybdis retrofit with augment

[forest palm]

I said next to, meaning Lion and BZ are a guarantee

[wind hazel]

big if true

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks for clarifying

[stark quiver]

lala

[shy hornet]

small if wrong

[polar lion]

Do u guys buy 1 copy of Traf or both?

[twilit crow]

pulling for zwei worth it in rerun?

[hollow gust]

Why not buy both

[strong tartan]

very worth

[polar lion]

Exoensive

[hollow gust]

She is a top BB so always

[wind hazel]

it's not expensive

[twilit crow]

even though its not typ rec to pull for reruns

[stark quiver]

UR rerun differentnmtnt

[twilit crow]

oh rly

shi-

[twilit crow]

would it even be worth emptying the rest of my coobs

[static dome]

We're still not sure if Lion Barrage is based on ship pos. or fix/aimed (not related to standing pos., right?

[twilit crow]

im pretty sure datamine says centered

[strong tartan]

its a ur battleship its basically a gaurantee its centered

[static dome]

[hollow gust]

Even then she would be flagship to take the ply buff

Her damage

[static dome]

[molten zinc]

Oh wait her burn last forever too

So perma +10% dmg debuff

[static dome]

Oh, just noticed — sry
smh, blind moment

[hollow gust]

You are gonna make the rest of us blind

[twilit crow]

how many weeks would biszwei be after cn ani

like typically how long would we have between ur event and ur rerun

[wind hazel]

we dont know

[normal cedar]

mori is your 900 voucher calc correct or is samhearts pin calc correct, which one is it

[strong tartan]

does glowworm headbutt bring the rest of the vanguard with her if shes in tank like mogador

[wind hazel]

mine is calculated based on 23days event duration

[cobalt rapids]

most likely

does any1 know if glow realm spawns on top of the enemy, spawns randomly
or at a fixed position

[wind hazel]

idk why sam's SP is 22 lol

still stuck in the past where hard mode is locked first day

[twilit crow]

is there any point of vouchers past 500?

[boreal wagon]

they can be traded for a pityful amount of coins so not really

[wind hazel]

if wanna minmax then buy the 2nd copy on the last day of event

[stark quiver]

Can I just unga bunga event and get both copies day 1

[wind hazel]

maybe

[stark quiver]

Hmm maybe it’s time to re summon the 20 minute sleep cycles

[reef flume]

Lion's barrage seems op what do you guys think?

[normal cedar]

we dont know the barrage pattern yet right?

[wind hazel]

feed your dorm, queue your research, maintenance in 3mins

🫃🏼 and dont overcap pvp

[stark quiver]

Thx mori

[reef flume]

Damage seem good tho

I think

[twilit crow]

for good rng for everyone

[hardy creek]

Guys I managed to clear the beginner mission few seconds into reset and right as I press the claim button for enterprise the game kicked me to title screen. Do you guys think I got her 😭😭😭

[twilit crow]

is oathing for beginner missions retroactively awarded

[wind hazel]

ye

[boreal wagon]

beginner missions changed anyway

[twilit crow]

oh yeah thats tru we might not even have oathing as a beginner mission

[wind hazel]

maybe we oathing two now

[crimson glacier]

so how is it

[stark quiver]

Hmm

[vale spindle]

both are the same its just mine says 400 + shop (which is 500), so if you add 400 + 500 its the 900 that mori said

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks

[wind hazel]

sam why is your sp 22

[polar lion]

How many pts is 400 vouchers?

[wind hazel]

previous events were 150 points per 1 voucher

so 60k if everything stays the same

why 400 tho

[polar lion]

200/copy?

[vale spindle]

wdym sp 22

[vale spindle]

OH RIGHT its cause this was old event format from when it took 2 days to unlock SP

[wind hazel]

[molten zinc]

First copy is 200
Second copy is 300