gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

then it doesnt really matter

[heavy sail]

okii

[atomic abyss]

well, cruiser for sandy retrofit ig

[eternal basalt]

13-X, gives the most currency

[atomic abyss]

what hard stages should I play considering i’m up to chapter 10 of the story
not very feasible

[eternal basalt]

10-X then

[winter quartz]

Another question about shops (I'm following this https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/shops/coredatashop) - it isn't quite clear if I should go for core data first or for the gear. Also proto shop isn't mentioned, what do I do with blue cores?

[worldly pewter]

[atomic abyss]

you use core data to buy the gear

[ivory pawn]

I assume by Core Data you mean cog chips/arrays.

[winter quartz]

oh yeah my bad I meant chips

[ivory pawn]

I’m personally of the opinion to buy White/Black shell first, then cog arrays > cog chips if you have extra that month.

[atomic abyss]

chips are very low prio for new players

3 pairs of white and black shells and indep first

then maybe breguets or beacons, depending on your needs

[worldly pewter]

1 black shell is enough maybe

[atomic abyss]

that assumes a new player can get HPFCRs

[chilly plaza]

It was the Eugen thing, they just gave her to me lol

[atomic abyss]

(spoiler, they wont)

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Beginner_Rewards#8-Day_Login_Rewards

[winter quartz]

got it, thanks

[eternal basalt]

It's gone because that's it

No " weekly"

[winter quartz]

what about uuh prototype cores

[atomic abyss]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[ivory pawn]

Buy out the season 3 blueprints for Champy guns, you want 3 of them.

[chilly plaza]

It was weird since it hadn’t been 8 days yet, but no matter, I got Wife anyway

[worldly pewter]

i think we settled on 2 nowadays the 3rd can be the flandre from pr6

[winter quartz]

What's Champy gun and what's pr2 etc lol

prio?

[honest stirrup]

Top left gun
"Aka champy gun"

[winter quartz]

I got 400 cores I think I can get an sr

[atomic abyss]

buy the series 3 gear selector BPs, exchange them for the triple 406mm/50

[worldly pewter]

what does pr stand for i forgot i remember dr stands for decisive

[atomic abyss]

priority

[winter quartz]

👍

[forest palm]

it's supposed to be PRY but we turn it in to PR

[eternal basalt]

y doesn't even make sense

[sweet delta]

One HSFCR per month is a very generous underestimation. New players should have one by the time they have two black shells

[atomic abyss]

[knotty dome]

do backline have priority over vanguard on the newest gear lab UR AA gun

[atomic abyss]

no

[forest palm]

PRIORITY

[eternal basalt]

Yeah, but what other abbrevation does that

[forest palm]

a lot do

[ivory pawn]

Can it be? Don’t folks recommend 6 after 7 & 5, so it’d be quite a while for the third? Well, guess they don’t need the third asap.

[atomic abyss]

flandre gun from protocore

so instead of 3 champy from protocore

2 champy + 1 flandre

[eternal basalt]

Hit helps them a LOT, not so much vanguard

[atomic abyss]

it does, but you would still prio the better AA guns for the AA carries

[eternal basalt]

That would be sextuples

[worldly pewter]

5 hit for the BBs is approx how many % ?

[sweet delta]

1.5

[honest stirrup]

Most abbreviations reduce themselves to consonants-only, and by tradition if the next letter isn't one, you take either the next syllabe that starts with one or the first one starting by the end
So yes it does make sense

[eternal basalt]

5 hit, but also all other stats up compared to STAAG

[worldly pewter]

but the backline won't benefit from the other stats

[forest palm]

Twin 76 and STAAG aren't exactly 1:1 they share the same Hit stat but eh...

[knotty dome]

so sextuple/twin 76 on any AA carries, then twin 76 on backline, then twin 76 on other vanguards. is this the right priority?

[eternal basalt]

AA is a mix of all AA guns in the fleet, it definitely helps, even with their defense wth AA

[worldly pewter]

so overall u don't see much of a difference to put the kisaki gun on the main or vanguard ?

[eternal basalt]

Kisaki?

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[atomic abyss]

kisaki isnt frog

kaeru is

[worldly pewter]

i thought the twin 76 was named kisaki and frog at the same time

[eternal basalt]

You do notice a big difference since backline "Hit helps them a LOT, not so much vanguard"

(and the best alt is STAAG and this one does way more damage than that)

[worldly pewter]

so the backline upgrade is much more impactful on every aspect

[chilly birch]

When is the livestream and does anyone have the link for it?

[eternal basalt]

16th. Some say https://live.bilibili.com/7761331 but until that date be aware it might change

[hardy creek]

Guys what's the best way to grind player exp pre level 60? Do I grind stages with 1 vanguard and 1 main or should I grind 7-4? Which one maximize player exp gain?

[weary gust]

Do the highest campaign stage you can with full fleet.

[novel solstice]

And try to push to world 8 and then 9 as soon as you are able to, things keep getting more efficient as you go forward.

[hardy creek]

Alright, thanks. Also, which augment should I prioritize first between hood, z23 and San Diego? Or I should just just save it for saint Louis that I almost finish developing?

[ivory pawn]

Either Hood or Sandy. Probably Hood then Sandy.

St Louis' is nice too, but you won't have her ready to go for a long while so no rush.

[hardy creek]

Alright, thanks!

[eternal moth]

Do you have any battleships aside from Hood?

[hushed dawn]

Salvageable or nah?

[forest palm]

no

Destiny isn't ideal, and you have a Vanguard Talent

[eternal moth]

Yeah, in that case getting Hood's augment is your best option.

[forest palm]

Kazan, Belarus, and Howe would be but we are running into a major event

[hushed dawn]

I've noticed something.
Do Vanguard cats even matter?

[forest palm]

nope

you can certainly build Vanguard Cats, but Main Fleet will always hold more weight

[hushed dawn]

Guh. And to think I only have 2 gold cat boxes left with no luck in rolls.

[eternal moth]

I agree, although I forgot about Kazan. Is she any good?

[hardy creek]

Sovetskaya and Howe are good?

[hushed dawn]

Realistically how many god cats does one really need?

6? 2 for mob, 2 for boss, and 2 for SS.

[weary gust]

Decent cats are 90% as good as perfect cats.

[forest palm]

as far as Ops is concerned you want 2 Lv 30 SSR cats for your mob fleet

[hardy creek]

I was planning to get Kazan to max lb to put her in fleet 2, but I'll work on Howe and Belarus as well if that's the case

[eternal moth]

Hold off until we see who the ships in the next event are. Most likely we'll be getting a new UR BB

[hushed dawn]

What cats ideally should one work towards for that?

[stark quiver]

Drake and every are honestly enough

[hushed dawn]

2 cats for powering just the backline?

[eternal moth]

Typically it'll be Oskar and another for your BB fleet

[hushed dawn]

So someone like Pound or Takemaru.

[eternal moth]

Bishamaru and someone else for your CV fleet

[hardy creek]

Are there any other way of getting ur Bullins besides buying it from the proto shop and season pass?

[weary gust]

Nope

[sweet delta]

Perfect Pounds are 18.7x as rare as perfect Antennas or Limes

[tame jungle]

is it because of that damn HMS talent

[sweet delta]

Main fleet ASW is my favorite talent

[tame jungle]

very useful!

[steep sleet]

I have completed chapter 5 of main story but they aren't letting me to start 6-1 till I am lv 40,What shall I do meantime?

[sweet delta]

And afawk pound cannot start with soulful or flame. So make that 1337x as rare.

[sweet delta]

Farm 5-2 with your full starter fleet

[steep sleet]

Alright, thanks.

[sweet delta]

Or 5-3 actually

Doesn't really matter

[steep sleet]

Btw may I know how to gain 3 star in all chapter and acts? I only have 1 star in most of them .I do not understand the difference between defeating escort fleet and whole fleet .

[sweet delta]

Defeat all enemy mob fleets before the boss

In the upper left with your buffs, there should be a counter of how many enemy fleets are left. Make it zero before fighting the boss

[sinful escarp]

1.clear boss
2. defeat x number of mobs
3. defeat all enemies before killing boss

you can do 1 and 3 at the same time
2 you can do it by repeatedly clearing the map

[heavy sail]

recommend way to farm for iron blood tech points? can’t find any tips on the guides

[steep sleet]

What is mob? What's the difference between all enemies and mobs? ,(sorry I do not understand:()

[sinful escarp]

Boss has the big icon with horn
Mobs is the rest

[sweet delta]

Boss

[whole crypt]

game literally zooms you to the boss node when it spawns

[steep sleet]

So mobs and all enemies except boss are same?

[whole crypt]

there are up to 4 mob node types in 3 different sizes/difficulties

but you just fight all of them anyway

[heavy sail]

alsoo do i still get tech points if I don’t currently have the ships in dock? just because I owned at one point?

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

tech points are milestone unlocks when you first get a unique ship, MLB her and level her to 120

repeating the same thing to a ship you already have or once had doesn't increase it further

[heavy sail]

oh so I can retire her and I’ll still keep the points right?

[whole crypt]

you don't lose points for retiring ships, you also don't get more points for getting her again

[heavy sail]

oki thx!!

also do the idol and meta ones also give points?

[whole crypt]

muse and littles do not, META ones do but they belong to META faction not the original ship's faction

[heavy sail]

can you even do anything with meta points then?

[whole crypt]

not right now

[steep sleet]

Sometimes I fight them all and defeat em but it still doesn't give me 3 stars

[whole crypt]

it should give you at least 2

[tame jungle]

check the menu with the stars, it shows you EXACTLY how many extra fleets you still need to defeat

[whole crypt]

read carefully what the stars need you to do

[soft raft]

the 2nd star (Defeat [number] enemy fleets) often takes more than 1 run

[steep sleet]

Alright 2,thanks all.

[heavy sail]

is u-96 worth picking ip?

[whole crypt]

fairly good sub but fairly bad tech

if you're looking for ships to get your faction tech up to unlock research look for larger hull classes first

if there aren't any in shop right now then I guess you could get U96

MLBing Prinz Eugen alone is already more KMS tech than getting U96 and leveling her to 120

[pseudo hearth]

Do we have any info at all on the upcoming new URs yet?

[whole crypt]

stream is in like 30-ish hours

[viscid swift]

Other than that they're probably gonna be RN no

[sweet delta]

Plural UR is confirmed already?

[viscid swift]

Well there was a teaser dropped by CN showing 2 unknown ships

[pseudo hearth]

Ok, do we have the full prelude story datamined? If so, do we have any hints from that?

[viscid swift]

Nagami might have it up in his site

But from what I've read not really

It's in less than 36 hours, just be patient

[whole crypt]

HMS is confirmed but I don't think prelude stories were ever any good for predicting the specific ships

[viscid swift]

Besides some of the more obvious ones they haven't

In fact we've been baited a number of times

[whole crypt]

won't take very long anyway, CN streams just zoom straight through

no miwaki-maffy banter

[viscid swift]

Yeah

[pseudo hearth]

Do you have the link to that?

[dreamy blade]

More RN? oh do you mean rn royal navy or sardegna

[viscid swift]

HMS

[pseudo hearth]

I see. I was hoping maybe we could see a tiny bit of the rigging but I guess not.

[eternal moth]

If I had to guess I'd say they're both battleships

[viscid swift]

like we said, just wait, it's less than 35 hours to the stream

and getting your hopes up has in my experience only lead to disapointment

[still drift]

I think she is a lion class

[split moon]

do i try to retro Erdrich i got everything needed but she’s not leveled yet

[eternal moth]

If you have her retro item, yes

[viscid swift]

like I said, just wait

[abstract stump]

is next ur yamato?

[soft raft]

no lmfao

[weary gust]

HMS Yamato yes.

[abstract stump]

i seen in x official at comment post reply yamato will apear with the background and splash ur ship

[viscid swift]

what

1. That comment is barely coherent
2. have you been able to corroborate that with any official source

[eternal moth]

I REALLY doubt the first actual on-screen appearance of Yamato will be in a Royal Navy event

She's been discussed, and we've seen golden butterflies from her, but no actual appearances.

[pseudo hearth]

It would be funny though if Yamato was just randomly there though

[viscid swift]

it would be funnier if this didn't move to #al-general

[dreamy blade]

i have 4 white shells, 3 black, 3 breguets, 2 of each cv timing aux, 3 snorkels/hull designs, 1 SOT4G, 1 rainbow oxytorp, 1 fumo, should i get anything else before i start spending core data on ships for tech

[atomic abyss]

CN official news says the next event is HMS
So lol

[dreamy blade]

would i ever need to use 3 beacons/manjuus

[soft raft]

if you dont want to constantly swap gear around

[dreamy blade]

well atm i dont use any of them

[atomic abyss]

3 beacons at once? possible

3 manjuus I doubt

It's pretty much what blaster said

[dreamy blade]

i assume for something like multiple skyraiders/hvars/la9 situation

[atomic abyss]

3 beacon possible if you want to hit 4 strike for meta

[dreamy blade]

oh i see

[atomic abyss]

I mean it's more realistic than "simply" maxing rld tech

Well glorious meta will most likely have CV rld tech at least

[eternal moth]

Oh right, yet another carrier I need to 120

[dreamy blade]

yeah i am on that grind now, currently 16/41

[hollow gust]

At a certain point you really don't need more

[atomic abyss]

I personally feel 30 is already way more than sufficient

[eternal moth]

At this point I'm just trying to finish my Pokedex lol

[atomic abyss]

When we give recommendations we usually assume around 20+

Or slightly less than that

[dreamy blade]

so get 30ish then switch to focusing on cv hit?

[atomic abyss]

Get some BB Rld too

[dreamy blade]

im currently doing cv rld and bb hit

[atomic abyss]

BB Rld you don't need more than 10 iirc?

[eternal moth]

Not a bad strategy. BB having 18 makes it a lot easier, and I'd probably recommend maxing that if you can

[worldly pewter]

12 should be barely enough for the meta showdown

[atomic abyss]

Remember stuff like Neva meta counts for BB rld

[dreamy blade]

am currently leveling gulio meta for bb hit and houshou meta for cv rld

[worldly pewter]

TBH ditch BB tech get some rld and bail

[viscid swift]

well that's the daily quota for bad takes filled

[atomic abyss]

BB hit is important

[strong tartan]

I'm just leveling some ships and I'm currently in the process of leveling my Nachi her first skill looks really shit should I even bother leveling it up

[whole crypt]

if you're still using Helena BB rld is basically not necessary, hit counts for more

[dreamy blade]

i have also read here that ignoring bb tech is bad bc that will lead to running out of cvs and having to run 3 bb backline later

[atomic abyss]

Levelling for... Tech?
Then no

Tho if you really want to just get it to SL4, or at worst, 7
It's super easy to get to 4 and 7

Everything behind that is a slog

[worldly pewter]

usually u want to do 1 bb 2 cv backline

[viscid swift]

what no, opposite if anything

[dreamy blade]

nachi skill could quite possibly be considered negative eHP

[atomic abyss]

I mean idk
If I'm raising a ship just cos for collection or tech purposes

[strong tartan]

I'll just leave it at level 1 then continue with her retro

[atomic abyss]

I'm certainly not gonna bother with their skills

That's how I see it at least

[dreamy blade]

especially now that the skill book event is over

[strong tartan]

yeah it's whatever

[dreamy blade]

you mean running 2 bbs 1 cv for tech grind?

[viscid swift]

that I did yes

[dreamy blade]

i think i want to get more cv rld first before i consider that, am currently doing 1bb 2cv

[viscid swift]

you can for CV reload and such

but once you get to FP and AVI I'd go for 2 BBs/1 CV

because 3 BBs even in 12-1 isn't fun

[heavy sail]

how tf do i access the collection rewards menu

[dreamy blade]

it's the button named "mementos"

[heavy sail]

thank

[cobalt gate]

So stream in like 8 hours?

[wind hazel]

you're one day early

the countdown https://game.bilibili.com/blhx/2025-eighth-anniversary/#p-1

[viscid swift]

more like 33

[cobalt gate]

Ahh ok

[fallen topaz]

What is this

[wind hazel]

to... enter gift code

[pseudo hearth]

Would Tallin prefer the Twin 203 SK or Ply Gun? Just curious, because of her skill.

[wind hazel]

both are viable, best of both world would be hind gun

[ember ember]

Best way to gain levels..?

Currently need to be lvl 60 for the next stage but I’m lvl 53

[zenith venture]

Sorry I was just a bit confused, what does the stranger symbol
Mean on a ship?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Affinity

[zenith venture]

Ty

[soft raft]

That's where you'd enter gift codes
Tho this mostly means redeeming Blu-Ray exclusive skins so barely anyone ever uses that

[wind hazel]

continue grinding at your highest campaign. if your ships are ~80 levels average, can look into universe in unison or passionate polaris SP5 in war archives

[ember ember]

Ah okay thanks I’ll check that out

[crisp raven]

it is recommendable get out 3-4 when i get how many repair tollkit ?

[viscid swift]

as soon as you can clear 4-1

[forest palm]

shouldn't really be farming maps for gear either way

[crisp raven]

what do you mean ?

[forest palm]

drop rates are abysmal, and you're really farming fragments to get one piece of gear

[crisp raven]

so is better rush to advanced stages ?

[forest palm]

for the most part, yes

[faint oak]

emm i wanna ask, for new jersey what it the best augment?

[forest palm]

it depends on what you're fighting

[faint oak]

emm i see

[forest palm]

go over this to learn what augments you should be using
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#augment_module

[faint oak]

okay thanks to you

[ember ember]

Where do you guys even get these links TwT

[vale spindle]

/guide and various other commands in bot spam

[cobalt gate]

so doing H for cogs is the blue one the best or doesnt' matter

[vale spindle]

blue is best thats correct

[ebon topaz]

Is 3 star worth it to do early on kinda getting lazy ngl 😭

[storm heron]

who are the new ships?

[viscid swift]

What new ships

[storm heron]

yes it is, you got gems which is good for dock expansion

is this not the name of the ship

from the one Taz shared

[viscid swift]

No

[whole crypt]

it just says new character

yes, even in moonrunes

[viscid swift]

That's also been up for weeks now

[whole crypt]

the bili AL 8th anniv page was open since late Apr

[tame orchid]

How many BPs does a UR need including fate sim?

[wind hazel]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[tame orchid]

Ah 728

Ive got enough for hakuryuu then,

[woven star]

Haku coinable

[tame orchid]

Yeah ik just got bps for her along with 2nd tenrai grind

[eternal basalt]

That one is CN evening in local time. It actually is 28h from now.

[wind hazel]

wot

26h from now is just 4pm tomorrow for them

[ebon pasture]

is reprofit worth it

[wind hazel]

retrofit? depends on which ship

[ebon pasture]

Z23

[wind hazel]

if she's your starter ship, yes you'll need it for rookie mission

[eternal basalt]

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20250516T19&p0=237&msg=CN+Anni+Stream proper timer

[ebon pasture]

I already did oath myself to her..

[wind hazel]

that's fine, oath isn't retrofitting

[ebon pasture]

Ok

[wind hazel]

hassat do you know how many hour 1 day and 4 hours is?

hint it's not 26hr

i live in the same timezone as china, trust me, i know

[wary skiff]

Are bidder torps worth getting to +13

[wind hazel]

only for chasing big number

they are usually one of the last in priority for aux +13

[eternal basalt]

They use torp parts

[wary skiff]

its torpedo not taux

[woven star]

I think subs is a last investment what you wish. Unless main fleet +13 already

[wind hazel]

... yes and they are aux isnt it

as in aux gear, not using aux plates

[eternal basalt]

Dammit, 28h yeah.

[wind hazel]

😭

[eternal basalt]

Still not the 1 day 11h that site promises me...

[wind hazel]

what are you saying

what kinda site you're on

or does the site screw up the sync and just use your local time to your 7pm

that would explain it lol

tl;dr it's <t:1747393200:F>

[wind hazel]

i guess it really is using your 7pm lol

[slow fox]

This is how I model it

One level advantage gives 0.1% EVARate

[atomic abyss]

Isn't that from stat changes

Not from the level difference mechanic

[slow fox]

No sir! One level advantage increases eHP in three ways altogether:

1: stats
2: 2% DmgRed
3: +0.1% EVARate

[normal cedar]

so this link shows me the time remaining according to my local time?

[wind hazel]

use this

unless you live in +8GMT that site wont be accurate

[normal cedar]

oh ok, so it's 4:30 pm shanghai time?

[wind hazel]

💀 bro

[normal cedar]

it's 7pm shanghai right cuz I calculated my local time based on that...

earlier they said it was 7pm shanghai

[eternal basalt]

It shows time remaining regardless where you live.

You see it match Mori's image

[warped acorn]

man am literally there 😔

[boreal wagon]

hit rate calc directly involves level difference

[atomic abyss]

Is it actually anything significant

[boreal wagon]

its exactly what mebot said

whether that is significant to you or not

[atomic abyss]

As in, is 0.1%
In other words capping at 2.5% eva rate
Anything significant

I mean I'm sure there's a noticeable effect

[slow fox]

I'm not sure if the level diffrence EVARate caps at 25...

[wary skiff]

is agir better in a boss or mobbing fleeet

[boreal wagon]

i dont think eva rate fom level diff caps at all other than the usual final hit rate caps

[atomic abyss]

No secondaries but has arcing guns

[slow fox]

omg 3% eHP at 20 level difference

One level difference is as a strong as one LCK in the EVARate calc.

[atomic abyss]

Same at both
Worse at mob if enemies lack shields

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't?

[boreal wagon]

not that i know of

[atomic abyss]

Then again

Even 100 level difference is going to be 10% Eva rate

[slow fox]

HUGE GAINS

[warped acorn]

hmm

[atomic abyss]

At that point I might as well use og Eldridge at level 1 with manjuu

I mean 10% Eva rate is huge

[boreal wagon]

i mean, i dont think you should be thinking too much about level difference anyway, being aware it exists and can help and hurt you is usually enough

[atomic abyss]

I mean the context matters

[boreal wagon]

not like youll be deliberately making a team that makes use of level diff

[atomic abyss]

In this case it was 105 Ancho Vs 120 Port kai

[boreal wagon]

yeah i guess in that case it's neat to know

[slow fox]

1.5% EVARATE

[whole crypt]

but then you use Anchorage anyway because Portland doesn't need more XP, unless you were looking at immediate options for push

[slow fox]

I think Anchorage is tankier.

The 1.18 factor is the average increase in eHP from 120 to 125.

[warped acorn]

to the power of 3

[slow fox]

Oh, should be 4.

[eternal basalt]

They were looking who to use in OPSI, would still say Anchorage

[sweet delta]

whats next one fleet harbiter with level 100 fleet

[slow fox]

Same eHP

[whole crypt]

if it's OS mob I'd say Anchorage

[atomic abyss]

And then when you account for the fact that Ancho smoke buffs team eHP

The answer is very clear

Even if you don't account for the fact Ancho still needs levels

[slow fox]

Smokescreen!!

[warped acorn]

0.01 more like

[vale spindle]

sounds like you should pick one at random then swap it out when it dies and keep swapping when one dies until one doesn't die anymore

then you don't need to swap it cause its not dead

problem solved with 0 math required

[slow fox]

impossible

[vale spindle]

[eternal basalt]

You act like swapping is free in OPS, and not every 24 hours

[atomic abyss]

Are you here to add anything or

[vale spindle]

swap it every 24 hours then

[atomic abyss]

Are you just going to be the peanut gallery

[vale spindle]

pick a random threshold like 5 deaths per 24 hours and if thats exceeded swap them out when you are able

[atomic abyss]

This isn't #al-general

[slow fox]

You can have them both in one fleet anyways!

[vale spindle]

2 different fleets!

[polar lion]

When is streamu?

[boreal wagon]

<t:1747393200:F>

[weak dust]

whats conversion rate for items to shop vouchers in opsi shop

[wind hazel]

click on the item in opsi, it will tell you

for example

[weak dust]

and if it doesnt say that tehn it isnt worth any vouchers?

[wind hazel]

stuff like healing box etc can't be traded for vouchers

maybe there's a list on wiki im not sure

[weak dust]

wbt tuning samples, i dont have one in my inventory to check and i can get one from mysterious merchant

[whole crypt]

there is under the reset section on the OS page

[whole crypt]

only arbiter voucher items, coins, tokens, ESDs and coord items have value

[steep sleet]

What is the ship development thing? I don't nothing about it,Tho I have set up saint Louis in development, cause I only know her,can anybody explain?

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[steep sleet]

How important is the research thingies?

[wind hazel]

pretty important

shipyard research is where you get some of the best ships in the game, while research academy is where you get some of the best gear blueprints and the blueprints needed to enhance the shipyard's ships

best just read the guide

feel like the more i explain the more infodump on you so take it slow on yourself

the important part is setting your Research Academy focus to season 5 or 7

[gilded bison]

hi

[sleek spade]

Raffaelo and Musashi for mobbing. who would be better for w14/15?

[atomic abyss]

Rafaello up til 15-1
Musashi after that

[sleek spade]

mm ok ty

[solemn marlin]

Nowadays, what are the best fleets to auto farm 13-4?

[atomic abyss]

There's just way too many to count honestly

[atomic abyss]

13-4 is just... Too easy nowadays for there to be a "best fleet"
It's like
If you're clearing it for the first time, you'd have limited options and you can't make a best fleet
If you're an old player farming it, you likely already have the best ships maxed out to the point it's not worth using them for grinding

In short it's really another 12-4

Just that you don't have the complete leeway you do with 12-4

[hardy creek]

Any of the gem packs worth it?

[sleek spade]

what can Rafaello do that's better than Musashi then? I dont really have a good reason to use her

[dreamy blade]

if you are f2p no, if you are a spender, still no not really

musashi cant heal other ships

[sleek spade]

the heal is very minor tho isn't it?

[polar lion]

Wait for x2 gems pack

[dreamy blade]

no? it is also targeted towards the ship that needs it most which is typically the best kind of heal

[sleek spade]

[polar lion]

Secretary

[sleek spade]

lol

[dreamy blade]

the heal also procs 4x for 2% of raff's hp which is ~570hp worth of healing

i think suchi had an example w15 fleet that uses zuihou+raff to sustain the dd frontline

[serene moth]

Should I get the 152 from thw protoshop?

[dreamy blade]

did you already buy the gold gear and a tenrai?

[serene moth]

I have the tenrai and 406

[dreamy blade]

just 1 406?

[serene moth]

2 and can craft another one if needed

[dreamy blade]

how many bfg109s do you have

[serene moth]

Lemme check

[paper ore]

How many do you need ideally? 6?

[dreamy blade]

probably dont need that many since la9 exists now

[serene moth]

I got 2 crafted and can craft 2 additional ones

[dreamy blade]

3-4 would be good i think

[paper ore]

true true. no la9 yet so im using 4 of them

[dreamy blade]

then sure, but also dont actually spend your protocore unless you have enough to buy all the prints for it

[serene moth]

I see

[dreamy blade]

do you already have plymouth dev30?

[serene moth]

You asking me?

[dreamy blade]

yes, since giving it to her is the main reason to get the quad152

[serene moth]

Only dev 20

[dreamy blade]

no rush to get it then, you'll probaly get some prints of it while you finish her researches too

[serene moth]

Oki thanks for the help

[ebon topaz]

How do i get these units

[crimson glacier]

you wait for the next week when it starts

or if you mean the exp boosted units then thats kinda just out of luck

prince of wales is on medal shop sometimes i think

and metas are where all the metas are

[dreamy blade]

and QE is a fairly common map drop

[atomic abyss]

PoW in medal shop
QE meta and Helena meta is in meta showdown
QE in campaign

[crimson glacier]

oh i completely missed the normal qe

[terse roost]

When's the ur event? 22nd or 29th?

[ebon topaz]

Campaign ?

[crimson glacier]

20th looks like

[atomic abyss]

20th according to CN

[fallow sedge]

Best gun for musashi?
(Cheap)

[crimson glacier]

purple twin 410

[fallow sedge]

Should I use yamato gun on her? Or is purple 410 better
(Campaign)

[dreamy blade]

purple 410 better

[fallow sedge]

Wait seriously?

[crimson glacier]

460 is shit on campaign

[void walrus]

It's reload is a bit high

[dreamy blade]

yamato gun is very niche bc of how slow it is

[void walrus]

The daisen gun is better

[fallow sedge]

....
I've been using yamato gun on her for 2 years 😭😭

[void walrus]

You learn something everyday

[fallow sedge]

Maaan that 9 sec reload diffrence is huge i just tried it

[atomic abyss]

Yamato gun is shit in 99% of cases

The only one who has a case for the Yamato gun is like

Soyuz for Nakhimov syncing

[raven canyon]

how good is raffae when it comes to mobbing

[cobalt rapids]

top 2

[raven canyon]

oh whos top 1

[cobalt rapids]

musasi

[raven canyon]

perfect

tanksalot

[autumn walrus]

which server is best suited for new players?

[dreamy blade]

if starting now, probably avrora or sandy for cv in medal shop

[raven canyon]

also should i use her gun for mobbing?

[cobalt rapids]

no use twin purple 410

[dreamy blade]

no, purple 410 kai

[fallow sedge]

I just learned 410 is better

[raven canyon]

alr alr

[fallow sedge]

So use that

[cunning bone]

my mob fleet keeps dying and needs help with what to improve

[atomic abyss]

I can't even tell which is the mob fleet

[cunning bone]

first one with alsace

[inner delta]

w15 basically all mob anyway

[atomic abyss]

When are they dying

[cunning bone]

btw its on safe difficulty but mob keep dying

[inner delta]

if you have aquila is a better option

[cunning bone]

before the final boss

[atomic abyss]

So

You're doing 1-2-1 I assume?

[cunning bone]

who to switchhh

[atomic abyss]

Indep

[inner delta]

uni can go to top fleet and replace with aquila and remove percy

[cunning bone]

no.... doing the auto sortie so the fighting of the boss is all on the boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

Do what yuki said then

[wind hazel]

swap musashi to mob, she mobs better

[atomic abyss]

Also that

[inner delta]

basically go pair aquila with musashi

and uni move to the other fleet

[cunning bone]

how about the vanguard?

like this?

[wind hazel]

probably can ditch eldridge since it's safe already

like laffey2 is good

or plymouth, any dps

[cunning bone]

I have used this set up before but my boss fleet keeps getting destroyed

[elfin hollow]

Support? How do I set that up?

[whole crypt]

gear issue?

[whole crypt]

it's a ch15 specific thing

[elfin hollow]

Oh

That sucks

[atomic abyss]

I mean

You don't need that in any other content

That just tells you how many planes there are in w15

That you need 5 carriers worth of fighters

[cunning bone]

i dont think so???

[whole crypt]

well how is the fleet dying

[cunning bone]

i think cayse there alot of the three triangles thingy enemy and it auto selects them?????

[whole crypt]

shouldn't be a real issue on safe and it's your boss fleet?

[whole crypt]

next time start a thread if you need to post a lot of images

[cunning bone]

OH! sorry

[wind hazel]

ye i can see why you're failing lol

[whole crypt]

and I already see bad planes on Yorktown II and poor AA gun placement

[wind hazel]

might be faster to read up the w15 guide

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[warped acorn]

this good?

[atomic abyss]

It's ok

Use it as a BB secondary for now

[sullen birch]

What is the PR for this gun ?

Ok thanks
I'm going to start grinding for it

[sullen birch]

I will give it to her
Because she deserves it

[worldly pewter]

u buy that with proto
the second one is the hardest to get

[sullen birch]

Which one ?

[worldly pewter]

the second copy of te prototype triple 203mm aka hindy gun

[eternal basalt]

PR6 is overall considered the worst, so do you really want to do that

[sullen birch]

It's ok

[sullen birch]

Do you have photo of that gun

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[sullen birch]

I will check

[plucky ice]

Is Laffey still viable? Because i like her and wanna use her in fleets

[sullen birch]

Which one of these 4 ?

[eternal basalt]

If you got II

[worldly pewter]

did u understand what i wrote ?

[wind hazel]

lol

the one you asked earlier, top right

the one you said were gonna get for anchorage

[sullen birch]

Ok
Sooo
You mean it's hard to get second copy of the same gun right?

[wind hazel]

not hard, just not efficient, since PR6 sucks to focus nowadays

[worldly pewter]

yea copy implies the same gun

[sullen birch]

Ok

I see
So just getting one is enough

[worldly pewter]

it is hard to find a window to focus pr6
i should have worded it like that

[normal cedar]

I cleared out all of opsi shop except gibraltar (meta fortification mats) and the 2 ur upgrade plates in st petersburg
Is there any need for me to buy any of that?

[wind hazel]

grab plates

[worldly pewter]

ur upgrade

[normal cedar]

alright, thanks Ill get them then

[eternal basalt]

Old or new shop?

[normal cedar]

new

[eternal basalt]

Mats for META firepower might be useful, or other you have less off, META in new banner

[normal cedar]

i think im low on reload (plastic arms) since nearly all meta ships need them

ill get them after the plates then, as much as I can

[wind hazel]

if you can clear the meta shop you should, except the skillbooks

but it's really not that much of a priority compared to something like the UR plate

treat it as something you can get as a bonus

[worldly pewter]

i usually level the skills by the daily amounts

[novel solstice]

I just stick metas into my opsi mob fleet and the skill levels without me having to do anything.

[eternal basalt]

~~And you don't even need to do that for Elite META's ~~

[timid solar]

can you get the ur fire control bench from war archive?

[eternal basalt]

There is no way to currently get one

[timid solar]

ah too bad

is the rainbow an upgrade? (for brest)

[forest palm]

I wouldn't use either for Brest

[timid solar]

which one ios good for her?

[forest palm]

look at Grey's post

[honest sequoia]

Must been my eyes getting old

[timid solar]

this one? the pic is blurry for me

ok thanks

[hollow gust]

you can use her own gun too for french req

[zenith heron]

If you have it at least (her french gun that is)

[timid solar]

which one is it haha

[zenith heron]

sorry for misguiding you, the one picture you shown at the right is the go to for CB's, was doing a side note on Brest's own gun if you need her French Req...

[timid solar]

I don't have any iris libre gear equipped I think haha

which one should I change?

[hollow gust]

perferable the AA

rainbow AA is easily fulfil requirement, if you dont have it then 138.6 always works

[forest palm]

single 138.6 is the simplest one

[timid solar]

not these rainbow right?

[hollow gust]

thats americain so no

[timid solar]

ah ok thanks

how do i get this blue iris gun tho

[ivory pawn]

Gotta buy Iris boxes from shop (supply, merit, or medal).

[honest stirrup]

Isn't that to make the single 138.6?
You can get that gun in the war archive though

[timid solar]

i can't be bothered farming it tho haha

[sharp socket]

which month of harby is the easiest for that armor type

[hollow gust]

the easier harbies should be coming up

[sharp socket]

i need to find one to go for one fleet or one strike

[vital quest]

is there a cap to core data amount recieved based on stage sorties? or is it quite literally the higher hard mode stage you go the more core data you get?

[hollow gust]

its increease by 1 for every chapter

[ivory pawn]

Later chapters give more core data, caps at 30 at w13.

[atomic abyss]

Isn't it increase by 2 not 1

[forest palm]

isn't there a whole ass chart you can find on this

[cobalt rapids]

that looks like a whole ass chart

[plain saffron]

Looks more like a table to me

[knotty dome]

i want to auto w15-4, will this work https://renhex.github.io/alft/277? the notes at the top of the w15 guide say add a healer to boss, do i replace amagiCV with aquila or volga or smth?

[forest palm]

synonym game is fun

[atomic abyss]

If you have Aquila and Volga, you shdnt be using zuihou at all
But yes you do want one of them to replace Amagi

[knotty dome]

the description says they're the best and points out zuihou

the best ships for Chapter 15 include CBs, CLs, and even several DDs. Raffaello and Zuihou heal DDs very well

[wicked obsidian]

Hay

I just started the game and..I don't see any limited banners

Looks other gatch games...

[little tree]

Wait about a week there will be one soon tm

[forest palm]

you joined on a literal dead week

[wicked obsidian]

Oww.Daam

[cobalt rapids]

which is arguebly a good time to start

[atomic abyss]

It points out zuihou because it's very difficult to get Volga and Aquila normally
You'd have to rng them out from the perma gacha which you're not supposed to roll to begin with
Zuihou was free

[little tree]

More time to level your fleet more you can farm event

[atomic abyss]

In the first place

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[atomic abyss]

You shd check out the end game tierlist

If you want to compare who is better/worse

(same author don't worry)

[wicked obsidian]

I thought limited banners are always running...
This is a 1st for me.

[atomic abyss]

Out of the 52 weeks in a year

You get like maybe 1 dead week on average per month

Sometimes you get 2 back to back

[little tree]

Dead weeks are blessing when you have pr to grind

[wicked obsidian]

Hmm...how lucky I am

[atomic abyss]

But in the first place you don't roll on banners often

You roll for limited banners with ultra rares

Which most banners aren't

[wicked obsidian]

How about the upcoming one??

[whole crypt]

depends on the type of gachas you play not every one permanently has an active event banner

[atomic abyss]

The upcoming one next week is an ultra rare one

[wicked obsidian]

Any good....do we have news

[atomic abyss]

CN stream on Fri to find out

[whole crypt]

stream in 22 hours or something on bilibili

[wicked obsidian]

What's the name....I am just gonna Google it

[whole crypt]

we don't know the ship yet, not until stream announces

[atomic abyss]

Dude there isn't one

There's no news till tomorrow evening

[little tree]

We won't know till stream

[hardy creek]

Who's the best ur to get from the perma ur pool? I got shinano max lb

[atomic abyss]

Vanguard

[whole crypt]

do you have pity up now or are you trying to pull for one

[hardy creek]

Alright thanks

[hardy creek]

Pity points

[whole crypt]

VG

[hardy creek]

Alright, so I assume Ulrich and Kronstadt doesn't perform as well as she does? Also is there any chance they might add another ur to the perma pool anytime soon?

[whole crypt]

don't bother raising her now though

[atomic abyss]

Kron is completely irrelevant

When existing, permanent ships do better than her as a tank

Without costing UR bulins

Next UR due for permanent would be Musashi
When? We have no way of knowing

[whole crypt]

Kronshtadt has a lot of equivalent or better options for tanking
UvH is mostly niche because of her quick firing gimmick
VG is a great generic damage buffer
don't bother raising any of these you want to wait for the new UR to see if it's better use of bulins first

[hardy creek]

Alright

[honest sequoia]

any experience c1 farmer here?
like how often do you guys farm c1 for AP

[forest palm]

never

[wind hazel]

whenever im free and have spare AP

if you wanna farm c1 you gotta commit to it

dont half ass it

[cobalt rapids]

ping faerlein

he has done many homeworks to c1

[honest sequoia]

im unemployed

[forest palm]

afaik you don't accomplish much more C1 farming than you do C3/C5 spam

[honest sequoia]

@undone plover

[wind hazel]

entire point of c1 is not to burn ap but to gain ap so that you can do more c3 spam taz

[mellow remnant]

Is there anyone that actually wants this gun

[wind hazel]

yes, your BB when against med boss

like current meta showdown for example. or this month arbiter

[stable badger]

we can't attack anymore without Ammo??

[wind hazel]

you can, just 50% less damage

[tame jungle]

you can, you just do half damage

[forest palm]

my point still stands

[wind hazel]

no it doesnt lol

[stable badger]

then what's this "not enough slots" thing?

[tame jungle]

dock full probably

[forest palm]

usually it pulls up a notification if that's the case

[wind hazel]

relog your game, clear some dockspace, test it again

it's usually the game being pepega and desync

[stable badger]

yea. manually went to clear dockspace AND it works now...why not give the notification though?

[forest palm]

tap to fast?

[wind hazel]

indie company coding 😭

[plain saffron]

desync from server. game think you have dock, server said nope. after you restart game you can see your dock is actually full

[stable badger]

don't get me started. that 3d dorm thing still not fixed after a week, freezes in loading screen

[wind hazel]

on phone or emulator?

[stable badger]

emulator

[worldly pewter]

even if u are unemployed i suggest that u invest ur time in something better than c1 farming

[wind hazel]

try disabling the last 2 settings of 3D dorm, forgot what it was, depth of field and light?

[stable badger]

it was at 39/40 thing but i was using the books. maybe that was the issue

[honest sequoia]

thats the best advice ive ever receive

[forest palm]

C1 farming is the equivalent of 2-1 spam

[plain saffron]

I don't think books do anything related

Like after getting the error if you go to dock you'll see you got space.
Restart then look at it again immediately you'll see it's full

[stable badger]

i mean, maybe get 2 ships outta the fight and then i'd be 1 over. but dock wasn't technically full... kinda shenanigan

[plain saffron]

No if that happened you'll still get the popup

You can test it if you don't believe

[stable badger]

put everything on low. still froze, disabled everything i can disable.

[little tree]

Small indie company moment

[wind hazel]

which emulator btw

[stable badger]

bluestacks

[wind hazel]

nougat32?

[split gazelle]

wasnt there someone saying something about changing render engine? opengl vs directx

[wind hazel]

hmm idk then

[wind hazel]

yea n32 opengl should provide best compatability

[forest palm]

I run on P64 for AL

[wind hazel]

default settings should be opengl anyway

[plain saffron]

p64 make the game stuck with unlimited bullets for me

[wind hazel]

n32 is recommendation from bluestacks dev themselves

[forest palm]

I've had no issues

yes I run multiple instances of AL

[wind hazel]

and you scorn c1 farmer

[tired forum]

How do I know what kind of, and where I can get UR gear blueprints? I mean no from OpSi just from Research. What PR I need focus on, to get exact blueprint from it

[forest palm]

that said I've had some hitching with n32 but it's nothing too egregious

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy

depends on which one you trying to get

scroll down to prototype equipment

it's usually 5 or 7 for most players

[tired forum]

Thank you

[undone plover]

The more you do it the better it will be on average
If you want to maximize comms/xp then just do it as much as u can throughout the month
Then clear everything last week or so

If u want to maximize AP gain then the best thing to do is track your AP crates
For example at the start of the day
Then at the end
Then once your profit hits 2k-4k stop it since it will likely drop at some point
Basically quit on a high roll

[serene moth]

How many XF5U's do you generally want to craft?

[whole crypt]

probably can use up to around 6 in a go but not a priority

[paper ore]

How many vouchers do you get when you grind c1?
plates and other such materials as well vs say farming c3 or c5

[serene moth]

Do i go for the 76 AA gun or the 100m DD gun instead then

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

but the AA gun costs a lot of electronics

[paper ore]

63 electronics iirc

nvm. its 60 not 63

[warped acorn]

does the lv of the original equipment transfered to new equipment after crafting?

[whole crypt]

not sure where you found 60, between the pre-req gun and itself it's 81

new gear is always +0, upgrading in lab refunds full plates and 25% coins

[paper ore]

ohhh the 76

I thought the iris libre UR AA gun

[whole crypt]

that's 57mm

and there's bascially no point crafting that one anymore

[paper ore]

its pretty much the same as the other UR AA gun too. 81 electronics in total for the SR and UR but you can get the SR one from protocores

[whole crypt]

I never recommend crafting trashcan in lab

also like I said the 57mm not worth crafting anymore

[paper ore]

yeah. agreed on that

[normal cedar]

are file loggers as hard as strongholds or are they similar to hidden zones for difficulty?

[whole crypt]

the classified files? they're basically just around c6 level at most

[normal cedar]

oh ok, thanks

[whole crypt]

it actually ramps up, using a classified logger opens up a "quest chain"

[honest sequoia]

around 10

[whole crypt]

you have to run multiple maps and the level goes up as you go IIRC, but the highest is still way easier than strongholds

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#File_Zones

[heavy sail]

is there any better thing to do with bad gear except for disassembling?

[wind hazel]

no, scrap for coin or scrap for research

[heavy sail]

how do i scrap for research?

[wind hazel]

if you gear focus and you don't have anything better but this

[heavy sail]

ohh ok

[wind hazel]

blue one asks for 8 scrap, purple asks for 15

[warped acorn]

scanning in opsi may also show u hidden objectives?

[whole crypt]

what hidden objectives

[worldly pewter]

i think the tutorial is kinda weird to explain that

[warped acorn]

fr

[worldly pewter]

also it seems like it is an obsolete mechanic now

[warped acorn]

just unlocked opsi and the tuto making me brain explode

[worldly pewter]

it might have been something that people were using in the past

[warped acorn]

and if so scanning basically do nothing except checking enemy ships buff

[worldly pewter]

consider opsi as a normal chapter map

[whole crypt]

well scan mode can be used to find some hidden stuff on the map if you were doing it manual

and before you unlock autosearch for OS anyway

[hardy creek]

Does taihou ever appear in the merit shop?

[worldly pewter]

i think only muse in the medal one

[whole crypt]

no

and yes muse version in medal

[cobalt rapids]

why do u have pearls 💀

[whole crypt]

shrug

[woven star]

Mac maybe

[wind hazel]

why do i have pearls too

[whole crypt]

win11 I guess

[wind hazel]

strangely uncomfortable

[warped acorn]

and should i do chap 8 or opsi first

[stark quiver]

both

just push campaign while doing ops when you run out of morale

[whole crypt]

don't feel the need to push hard on OS honestly... it's a long grind, not doing this month isn't going to be a huge loss and you're not liklely be able to get full mileage out of it yet anyway

[warped acorn]

alr

[worldly pewter]

if u can speedrun the chapter 4 it might be worth before the end of the month

[woven star]

UR components more important and not often.

[wind hazel]

start early and get used to how opsi works

-# except opsi changes anyway after clearing story

[woven star]

Kekw. After opsi training will be more questions.

[whole crypt]

if you want to speed run ch4 you might want to skip it now, the progression literally can be done in like a day or 2 but his current level isn't going to make it

[fringe sail]

Is Gascogne muse worth to upgrade?

Also would Richie's buff also affect her?

[whole crypt]

no, yes

[woven star]

What best chapter for exp?

[fringe sail]

I see, how about Sovetskaya Belorussiya and Rossiya?

[whole crypt]

pretty meh BBs by today's standards, what are you actually after

[fringe sail]

Having more flexible fleets
The only BB I'm relying on are NJ and Richie

The others are BC such as hood, Repulse meta and Hiei Meta, and I want to expand more what I can build for different situations

Especially that my HMS Vanguard have no single LB yet

I'm trying to get Venetto and Littorio up too

[whole crypt]

wait for new UR good chance it'll be BB

Hood is good enough for most part

I'm not sure what flexibility you want, none of the ships you named really add anything for most part

[viscid swift]

yeah try to work on good ships and not diversify hull types for the sake of diversifying hull types

[woven star]

Maybe focus on CVs. Most of them easy to get

[whole crypt]

if you want to work on a good BB that's regularly obtainable go work on FdG

[fringe sail]

Tbf, I already have a good fleet for a 1 boss and 1 mob but when I'm trying to build on OpSi it's going wild

[viscid swift]

just use those fleets for OpSi for the time being

[whole crypt]

and none of the ships you named will really help you in making another OS fleet

[fringe sail]

As of now my Essex, Enterprise, Perseus, Unicorn, Implacable, Hiryuu+Soryuu META

[woven star]

Independence

[whole crypt]

NJ Enty Implacable probably your best bet for OS boss for now

[fringe sail]

Don't have yet

[whole crypt]

mobbing is just whatever

[normal cedar]

so I finally hit 600 cubes, I was wondering about spending it on research or continuing to save till 800
my main concern is zwei rerun so I had some questions:

1. how viable is zwei considered today? has she become mostly replacable/forgotten? or is she still top choice for w14/15 campaign and opsi bosses?
2. does she require any other ib UR ship (fritz rumey, fdg, etc) to work or she holds up solo as well?

I want to know her comparison to other ur ships, since the endgame tier list does not tell that

[whole crypt]

current top BB fleets all contain BisZwei, can't tell you if it'll stay that way after new UR

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't consider spending cubes on researches regularly until you had like 1k+ at least

[whole crypt]

but if you really want to, 600 cubes now isn't exactly unsafe even if BisZwei reruns right after new UR, but you'll be dry after that if you had to pity 2 in a row

[fringe sail]

Oh man, i wonder how the new UR (if we getting one) would perform

[viscid swift]

also, Zwei is still quite strong but recent fleets haven't been using her much

[whole crypt]

we are getting a new UR we just have no idea what it is

more rather we're getting at least one new UR, the chances are 2

[woven star]

Do you have Andrea Doria META? Or Admiral Hipper META but second one if no good second tank like Anchorage or other useful

[fringe sail]

Afaik, we'll be seeing it next Tuesday

[viscid swift]

this Friday

[fringe sail]

I have Anchorage

[whole crypt]

announcement stream is in less than 24 hours
event is on Tuesday

[viscid swift]

we'll get the stats and such the Thursday after

[fringe sail]

But not much use now since she's just newly constructed with low level and her fate level? Is only 28

[woven star]

Doria some kind cut FdG

[whole crypt]

Tue next week, odd schedule this time maybe trying to work around gaokao again

[viscid swift]

huh

[normal cedar]

current top BB fleets all contain BisZwei, can't tell you if it'll stay that way after new UR
also, Zwei is still quite strong but recent fleets haven't been using her much

so she's good for a new player like me who doesn't have any urs?
i assume she is better than fdg and all perma ur bbs as of now?

[viscid swift]

yes and yes

[woven star]

Only speculation but I don't think new UR will be bb.

[normal cedar]

okay, thanks!!

[whole crypt]

maint is already announced 20th unless they decide to hold event off after that

[heavy sail]

whats the best event from war archives to play for equipment

[wind hazel]

none

[whole crypt]

none you don't grind maps for gear drops

[heavy sail]

well i do have to use for my plays on one of them

[viscid swift]

I wasn't doubting you, just expressing my suprise is all

[whole crypt]

you don't have to use the keys but if you want to then run chessboard for KMS drops

[viscid swift]

no you don't, you can just let them overcap

[novel solstice]

None of the war archives levels have equipment worth grinding for. If you want to run war archives, go for ships you don't have that only drop there.

[heavy sail]

and do i do smth w them then? ;;

[worldly pewter]

research is a waste of cubes in the long run unless u are facing a garbage roll and u don't have any other choices + far away refresh

[viscid swift]

not terribly much of value lost especially if you aren't in the position to farm tech

[whole crypt]

I haven't used my keys for about 4 years now

don't spend them just for the sake of spending them

[forest palm]

I've ignored WA since it released

[whole crypt]

I spent some time farming baguettes, it was a mistake but I did

[viscid swift]

I recently went to farm some Tallinn dupes but that's pretty much been it

[robust jackal]

anyone have any W15 Mob fleet comps without Musashi, and unicorn?

[viscid swift]

well what do you have then?

and why not Unicorn

[worldly pewter]

the wa mechanic is very weird especially for old accounts since it is an omega nerfed rerun event mainly because 0 rewards

[forest palm]

Unicorn is the easiest thing to attain and raise....

[woven star]

Some iris fraction blue gears have better drop in wa as we can forge some better. But yeah

[viscid swift]

you can just get those from Iris tech boxes

[whole crypt]

what do you even want to craft from iris lab nowadays

[little tree]

~~ watch new UR be a CL~~

[whole crypt]

it's more for unlocking story, the map themselves rarely have anything worthwhile to start with

if not for shop and milestone there's basically no point running event maps at all

[robust jackal]

Most of everyone tbh, My current W15 mob that works is Aquilla, Musashi, Uni, Guam, Fancy, and Z52. Just looking to trial and error a new mob fleet comp to rotate when they run out of mood.

[woven star]

More expensive then some low oil farm. And very random. Just my point. I tried. Got better results from wa

[viscid swift]

[wind hazel]

suffering from success

[whole crypt]

if they run low on morale it's a good sign to take a break

[robust jackal]

Aren't there enough capital URs though?

[whole crypt]

given average ch15 map fight times and oil cost there's not much point rotating to keep going

[little tree]

I don't know of a single UR CL

[worldly pewter]

which stage ?

[eternal moth]

Sandy

[whole crypt]

#al-general is that way if you want to speculate

[novel solstice]

I use Unicorn/Aquila/NJ and it works fine. You could probably swap in any other UR BB for Musashi and have it work.

Nobody heals as well as Unicorn though, so if you really want to rotate, maybe level a second Unicorn?

[woven star]

CL/CA. My bet for too

[robust jackal]

my mistake, 15-4

[sharp socket]

is 3m xp enough from 105-125 for an SR

[viscid swift]

no

[whole crypt]

my honest opinion if you're low on morale from ch15 just take a break

[wind hazel]

can try alsace/soyuz/nj zuihou/perseus volga laffey2 shimanto eldridge, or any other variations

[worldly pewter]

u can use aquila with musasi in the first fleet
raff with unicorn in the other
should be fine

[viscid swift]

105 to 120 is gonna be around 1.8 million
and 120 to 125 is gonna be 2.15 million give or take

[wind hazel]

right raff is an option too

[woven star]

Is it? We had same discussion and 3m from 100 to 125 or so

[robust jackal]

That may be a better option to get some flexibility in the main fleet.

[whole crypt]

if you're low on morale doing 15-4 you're likely also burning extra oil, unless you're just looking to clear up the storage for whatever reason

[wind hazel]

3m is not enough, you need 3.425

[sharp socket]

1.8m + 2.1m = under 3m?

[novel solstice]

I just swap back to running 12-1 to level garbage ships whenever I'm low on morale, it's easier than putting together multiple w15 fleets.

[whole crypt]

1.8+2.1 is 3.9

[sharp socket]

wait a second no thats 3.9

[wind hazel]

wait..

[whole crypt]

I run out of oil running 12-1 so...

[robust jackal]

I'll give that a shot, thanks

[sharp socket]

wait why is it 2.1m for 120-125

[woven star]

Nvm for sr. UR other numbers

[whole crypt]

15-4 is definitely going to be worse

[wind hazel]

oh i was right

[viscid swift]

ok I got the number from 120-125 wrong but it's still not enough

[sharp socket]

its 3.145m for 105-125

ok thats not bad so i can just do 110-125 and leave it at that

[whole crypt]

oil got so bad I'm low costing for hard mode

[viscid swift]

who have you got that needs to go to 125 anyway but you can't afford to uncap now

[wind hazel]

just buy oil

[worldly pewter]

u have volga and zuihou leveled right since they are in the 3rd slot for each fleet zuihou's healing is preferable when the vanguards have low max hp with high ehp

[whole crypt]

oil is the one thing I refuse to spend gems on

I still have storage anyway

[robust jackal]

Clear oil, grind for Houston II and replenish Gold for next UR

[sharp socket]

uh im going to 125 about 3 more URs + whichever is gonna come in next week

[viscid swift]

fair enough

[whole crypt]

in that case I'd just cycle to ch12 or 13 leveling for coins when the ch15 fleet is down for morale

ch15's coin/oil ratio is worse than 13 anyway

[robust jackal]

Aye, both are good to sortie, Zuihou would be better in a Fleet with an Eva CL tank and DDs right?

[sharp socket]

arrays are pretty slow to get and URs cost alot to 125

[woven star]

Dds. Her heal depends on her max hp. And her max hp not so high

Plus it's over time heal

[sharp socket]

i have implac, nakhi, ibuki, aurora(?) to 125 + whoever next week and if they drop bzwei as well that too and i have 1k array only

[robust jackal]

I thought the highest map Clear was still preferable, is there a table for the farm ratios on the wiki?

[worldly pewter]

cl can have very high base max hp like ply
harbin is the example of low hp but i m not sure how her tankiness feels like
probably china wall is the best

[robust jackal]

I was thinking about her smoke with a DDG fleet

[whole crypt]

you're dumping AA there = dead fleet

Zuihou heals CLs fine, CAs a bit worse but if you're taking enough damage for that to be a major issue then the problem isn't with Zuihou

[sharp socket]

the game does not work the way you think it will

[wind hazel]

there's this #gameplay-help message

tl;dr 15-4 is worse than 12-4, 13-4 still best for coin efficiency time+oil wise

[woven star]

Lol. Zuihou hp is 4700 and full heal from 6 main to 15 van over 3 sec. Not much

[worldly pewter]

i never heard of someone farming the highest stage for

[sharp socket]

10k oil only for their benchmarking, 12-4 is incorrect there

it is not 7.08 coin/oil its 6.81

[whole crypt]

that's because Zuihou is more of a Volga/Aquila replacement than Unicorn, she'll only be enough if you have another healer of some sort even if it's not Unicorn tier

which should work with the likes of Raff I guess, I can't say for sure since I haven't tried

[robust jackal]

noted, I just need two more Houston II drops then i'll dip out back to 13-4.

[sharp socket]

one day i will record coin/oil for 13-4 and 14-4

[whole crypt]

are you just trying to save gold bulins

[viscid swift]

I can relate but of all the times, Houston 2/NO is not one of them

[wind hazel]

i've seen some players want to MLB map drop only ships with dupe, it's a challenge for them lul

[whole crypt]

honestly don't think it's worth the trouble

[viscid swift]

neither do I

spending massive amounts of oil and letting go massive amounts of XP just to save a month's worth of gold bullins at best

[robust jackal]

I'm just a slave to the drop, Farming 15-4 gives me an excuse to challenge myself. I got a full LB New Orleans from drops.

[sharp socket]

me with my 28 choukai drops

[wind hazel]

let people play how they want

or else we gonna be arguing about everyone's needless spending on skin or tactical slot or dorm slot

[whole crypt]

not the best way to spend oil but you do you

[sharp socket]

should i get my 15-4 to safe or leave it for testing

[wind hazel]

up to you

[tame jungle]

are you going to be doing testing

[whole crypt]

I'm not really in a position to say anything about diligent oil spending when I easily draw out to level fodder

[sharp socket]

i might mess around with random stuff and see if something sticks, or just to try lethal 3*

is lethal 3* possible for 15-4 actually

[whole crypt]

I might consider when we get to 16 but my 15-4 is already safe, I do testing on 15-3 if it's remotely relevant

[wind hazel]

of course

it was done before guam laffey2 too

[sharp socket]

alright great do you have homework for me to copy or i go cook

[wind hazel]

i dont ask the nerds like riceist

[sharp socket]

nevermind ill cook instead

[woven star]

Unicorn unfortunately heal main ships once per battle for 3% but all of them. These 3 ships heal for whole battle. All healers good. Depends on situations. I'm not sure but saw some backliners who transfer damage on them from vanguard. There is some place for cooking

[whole crypt]

feel free to cook I have zero interest in suboptimal ch15

off the top of my head there aren't a lot of main fleet skills that take damage for vanguard and none of those ships are ch15 worthy

[sweet delta]

I used Anchorage hammii Harbin for 3 star lethal without subs

[storm marlin]

How many chapters left in Operation Siren? I'm currently right here

[whole crypt]

ch5 is last but you already have most of OS if you've claered 4

[ivory pawn]

At a glance, it looks like you’re on the final chapter, which only unlocks the Arbiter fight.

[light trail]

just got my first la9, who do i put it on from these fleets

[bold surge]

Id say Rumey

[whole crypt]

your anti-heavy fleet needs 0 fighter slots, Fritz Rumey probably has the best slot for it but adjust as necessary for timing

[heavy sail]

can i change my operation siren fleets?

[forest palm]

go to any blue port, hit that order button, tap Fleet Deployment in the next menu and there you go

[heavy sail]

yup got it thx

[steep sleet]

Is there any way I can save game files in SD card /external memory rather than phone storage?

[kindred ingot]

I'm almost done with farming the xp for Bayard, after which I plan on using my pr 5 and 6 data packs. I only play occasionally and already got the 1 ship from both seasons that I wanted (Flandre and Brest) by farming in the past, and finally managed to beat ch13 recently, so I'm about to start ch14 now. Question is, which PR's should I get with the data packs? I saw that Plymouth was a really good tank unit but other than that, I'm clueless.

[forest palm]

don't believe so

[sweet delta]

None. Convert all data packs to protocore to buy good gear

[steep sleet]

Okey,thanks.

[whole crypt]

Plymouth is also not a tank

[eternal basalt]

Looks like you're done with OPSI story, and only have the Arbiters left, post-story

[kindred ingot]

you can do that?

[ivory pawn]

Depot > find the data packs > Analyze.

[eternal basalt]

Can give sluhs but he said he's on the final chapter, which is wrong

[sweet delta]

How is final chapter wrong???

[eternal basalt]

Cause it's post chap-5

[steep sleet]

The arbiter things look pretty confusing,altho I haven't unlocked OS yet ,I heard about them from some other cutscene in a conversation with Helena meta