gameplay-help

[weary gust]

Faction fleets are not good. Akagi/Kaga are not good.

[ionic kraken]

what should i be using instead with shinano?

[ivory pawn]

3000?! Where did you get that number? You only need 400 at most to guarantee the UR.

[little tree]

(Amagi CV) Haku are way better

[weary gust]

Comms and dailies are the main source of cubes. But yeah, 3000 is wayyyyyyyyyy overkill and not a number you'll ever reach as f2p.

[proper cypress]

i must have either misheard a youtube video or misread somewhere

[ivory pawn]

That said, you pretty much get 5 a day from daily missions, plus commission RNG, plus any one-time sources. I don’t think you’ll even reach the 400 if it’s your first week playing tbh. Hopefully you just get lucky and don’t need that many!

Sam has a page with more exact numbers, gimme a sec.

[ionic kraken]

are they also farmable?

[little tree]

Haku is from Research

Amagi is Gatach UR

[weary gust]

Shinano typically goes into boss fleet, so you'd use her with other ships meant for bossing.

[ivory pawn]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#currency
168 cubes a month, plus RNG with commissions and shops. Event lasts 3 weeks and starts next week, so maybe not enough to guarantee, but you’ll have a good shot.

[weary gust]

Also, PSA, do not use youtube for advice/help on this game. Most of them are woefully out of date and were wrong/bad to begin with.

[little tree]

~~ epically that youtube sushi ~~

[wary skiff]

i dont have amagi but ive been thinking of doing shinano / haku / implac with azuma as my tank for 3 ijn for bosses. probs hella in protected slot and idk what for offtank yet

[weary gust]

Kazagumo often fills the 3rd ijn req. There are better tanks than Azuma.

[wary skiff]

would retrofit yuudachi be better? than kaza

oh i see kazugumo gives a cv buff

[atomic abyss]

no because kaza is an actual buffer, and yuudachi is expensive

[wary skiff]

oh well i mean, yuudachi was already invested in

heh

ill try to get kazagumo

[worthy pike]

will this also boost the amount of commander exp I'll get from sorting the stage

[ivory pawn]

Yes.

Doubles the cost, doubles the rewards, just counts as one sortie.

[worthy pike]

should i switch her for kazan

[zenith heron]

Usually you only use this to boost your gameplay/ lack of time

[worthy pike]

i need to get to 50 and its taking quite a while

[weary gust]

Kazan isn't limit broken at all and is level 26. If anything you would start training Kazan for a second fleet, but whether or not you do that depends on your current ships/how many bulins you have, and there's a new UR event soon anyways.

[worthy pike]

i wanna speed things up

[viscid swift]

you could buy the level 70 commander pack for 5 bucks if you're really impatient

[worthy pike]

if shes a better unit i can just work on her

I'm not spending a single cent on this game fr

[zenith heron]

it won't be better if she isn't MLB

[atomic abyss]

she is far better, but 70 levels is too many levels

[wary skiff]

ive been liking khazan with nakhimov so far, my kazan is only lvl 101 atm tho but fully lb

[weary gust]

Those two don't go together for any particular reason.

[worthy pike]

i have around 60~ exp books

[wary skiff]

does kazan not give a slow proccing nakhimov?

[atomic abyss]

she does

[viscid swift]

she does but like

[worthy pike]

she should get around level 65

[atomic abyss]

but is your nakhi even dev 30

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't bother if you have to resort to Kazan

[wary skiff]

29

[zenith heron]

Sounds like a Mobbing Nakhimov than a Bossing one to me

[worthy pike]

also best way to get the gold limit break things

[wary skiff]

ya i have a boss fleet already getting worked on

well mob fleet is whatever im currently researching so ymmv

[viscid swift]

that doesn't say much about the strength of the combination at all though

because you're farming content so easy that just about anything works

[wary skiff]

i mean.. its worked, all ive really been doing is opsci and leveling fleets on 12-4

[viscid swift]

Mate, considering this is what I've been running farming w12 and opsi recently

[wary skiff]

fair lol

[worthy pike]

should I do this

[atomic abyss]

no

unlock 2nd floor instead

in fact you shdnt have even gotten slot 4

[zenith heron]

stick to the dorm slots you have, the other ones are too expensive

get a 2nd floor instead if you have or Dock Space as usual

[worthy pike]

for what can i use the gems for then

[atomic abyss]

2nd floor

and dockspace

[worthy pike]

ok

[visual bane]

Skins

[atomic abyss]

skins are for whales

not everyone whales

[inner idol]

Other than sandy and her omega twinklers, who are the best mobbing frontliners?

[atomic abyss]

depends on the content

[inner idol]

Just xp farming pr

[atomic abyss]

then it doesnt matter

the other best amongst the US would be anchorage, guam, laffey2 and eldridge retro

[inner idol]

What about just in general? Who would be top tier mobbage? Not specific to one faction or the other

[atomic abyss]

again, it depends on the content

w14/15 have different "tops"

[inner idol]

Gonna start 14 soon so that

[atomic abyss]

but beyond the aforementioned

z52, plymouth, brest, shimanto

[inner idol]

Also is it true that ibuki is better than shima? Fully maxed?

[atomic abyss]

ibuki with her augment is better than shima in most cases yes

[inner idol]

Aw man

[fierce lantern]

is she a good ship worthy of investment

[zenith heron]

tbf on Ibuki's case she does need her Augment, and Shimakaze is nearly 4 years old, so its time for her to get powercrept

[atomic abyss]

not good enough unless you're new

[vale spindle]

she is good yes but you can get similar performance from other ships too so depends on who you have

[glossy granite]

If you got maxed plymouth prints from catch up who do you set next 🤔

[atomic abyss]

used all the PR4 catch up?

if so, brest

you're gonna be on series 5 for a while anyways

[glossy granite]

😅

[atomic abyss]

you know your answer then

you shd be getting agir, haku and anchorage at minimum

[glossy granite]

for catch up or ships or both

[atomic abyss]

both

[glossy granite]

I have ägir and anchy but not haku

[atomic abyss]

free UR CV, go get her

[glossy granite]

Yea going to take a while tho, even if sakura tech points are everywhere mine is really bad compared to the other factions

I have like 460 something compared to like eagle, royal and iron which have 1K+

[atomic abyss]

no harm starting the catch up anyways

used the ones for ancho and agir already?

[glossy granite]

Yep

[atomic abyss]

haku or brest then
doesnt matter what order tbh

[glossy granite]

I was pretty focused on plymouth prints so i kind off skipped everything 😅

[atomic abyss]

you shd prioritise the prints of both DRs

ofc it's fine to prio ply over brest but you shdnt skip brest ones

[glossy granite]

It wasnt on my mind so i overlooked it, skipping may been an exaggeration

Either way doing ok so far, 248 prints for plymouth

[rocky tinsel]

Do all the gear research projects have basically the same chance to give you a rainbow gear, so the ones that take a longer time are just inferior

Ooof. Nevermind, found a spreadsheet. Complicated

[atomic abyss]

The short answer is, shorter the better

[hollow gust]

yes and no

for getting rainbow gear
Rigging
30m > 4hour > 1hr > 2hr
Grant Donation
1hr30>4hr>2hr30

[grave cove]

Is the fair winds pass worth?

[hollow gust]

If you like the skin its basically one of the best deals in the game

[hushed dawn]

Is this cat salvageable?

[sweet delta]

Plus it's a cruiser cat, which same as DDs should be built for torp

[weary gust]

As food for one of these

[sweet delta]

Or for FP if you want to meme Hindenburg doing more damage than a UR BB

[hushed dawn]

Honestly I'm at the point where I feel like retiring all my cats and starting over is the best way forward.

None of these are salvageable and some have weird stats (like ASW) mixed in.

[weary gust]

I keep two copies of each SR cat, build all my boxes I get, if I get a cat with better base talents I feed the worse of the two to it.

I have maybe 2 perfect cats, after 5 years of playing.

[ivory pawn]

Keep your level 30s around as EXP boosters to supercharge the good cat you do eventually get.

[hushed dawn]

One more thing.

Are more cat slots worth buying?

[weary gust]

No

40 slots with base + guild tech is more than enough.

[sharp socket]

if you find yourself at 40/40 slots with lv30 cats in all of them then maybe

[sweet delta]

I have 65

[hushed dawn]

I am at 42/50 and all of them are lvl. 30.

[sharp socket]

you still have space, then its fine

[ivory pawn]

You can't even get cat slots from guild tech, only cat box discounts.

[weary gust]

Is that what it was?

I feel like I got more cat slots for free somewhere ...

Is 40 the base?

[ivory pawn]

Maybe they just increased it for everyone at some point, idk.

[weary gust]

Maybe? I recall having only 30 slots to start. Maybe when they released the comforts they added more space?

[sweet delta]

Any more than 40 were paid for by you

[hushed dawn]

Is this a good cat?

[sweet delta]

I would give it an 8/10 among cruiser cats. And cruiser cats are less useful than carrier/bb cats. So not worth rerolling

BB cats are covered by Drake and Every so you're mostly just looking for CV and SS cats

[blazing maple]

question, should Chapter 13+ have tanks in my fleet?

[wind hazel]

yes

[forest palm]

just 2

[wind hazel]

every fleet needs some sort of tank

[blazing maple]

I do have Guam acting like a tank with Laffey II and Sandy.

in the same vanguard fleet

[wind hazel]

uh, kinda overkill

in term of AA distribution

[blazing maple]

Yes.
but I'm more concern with IJN Fleet (I know, focused faction bleed isn't the most optimal)

Isuzu and Shimanto. with Unzen as tank (acting)

[wind hazel]

you're on your own

[weary gust]

Unzen aint a tank

[wind hazel]

there's always Azuma

[blazing maple]

fair. so
swap her out with Azum-

alright then

[hollow gust]

Isuzu is useless there

[blazing maple]

any recommend?

[viscid swift]

Yeah you might wanna revaluate what exactly your priorities are because even with all options, good gear, tech etc faction fleet clearing W14 and W15 is not going to be particularly easy

[hollow gust]

You can just slot unzen back in

[viscid swift]

For W13 grey

[blazing maple]

AA. I just look at AA stat
and just put them on a fleet
it was the idea of 2 CL with great AA and an acting tank

[viscid swift]

Yeah....

There's more to determining AA capabilities than just AA stat

[hollow gust]

Azuma Shimanto Unzen is more then sufficient

[viscid swift]

And don't generalize ship capabilities by hull type

[blazing maple]

I have them

[crisp raven]

there is a way to farm oil ?

[viscid swift]

Are they dev 30/MLB though

[normal cedar]

comissions

[blazing maple]

Azuma. yeah

and Shimanto too

[hollow gust]

You can't just use 1

Unzen you either mlb or don't use

[crisp raven]

there is no like a stage to farm them ?

[blazing maple]

MLB?

[normal cedar]

nope lol

[viscid swift]

Max limit break

[crisp raven]

F

[blazing maple]

sorry, I hardly come here

yeah. they're all 125

[viscid swift]

Is Unzen 6 stars yes or no

[blazing maple]

Yes

[viscid swift]

Then she's max limit broken

[blazing maple]

yes

[viscid swift]

Anyway so yeah you can use that for W13

For w14 and beyond all I can say is good luck

/campaign

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Chapter 14 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-14-brief/
Chapter 15 Guide - https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[blazing maple]

thanks

[viscid swift]

You might wanna give the a above guides a read so at least you know what you'll need out of your fleets

And as I said evaluate what your goals really are

[visual bane]

is there one of those for w13?

[viscid swift]

Do you just wanna clear or do you really need to clear with faction fleets

[viscid swift]

No

[forest palm]

world 13 is hell of a lot easier than 14 or 15

[viscid swift]

Mainly because w13 is too easy to warrant such a guide

[weary gust]

w13 if you have level 120 ships and decent gear and ships that have at least okay AA you'll probably be fine.

[sharp socket]

w13 is doable with only permanent accessible ships

[sweet delta]

w15 is doable with only permanent accessible ships

[viscid swift]

Aquila is perma now among others so...

[wind hazel]

what about pvp? can i win with only permanent accessible ships 100% winrate

[sharp socket]

i said accessible

[blazing maple]

I am reading

[viscid swift]

never said easily accessible

[sharp socket]

as in: guild shop, medal shop, shipyard, map drop only

[blazing maple]

faction fleets for some hardships

but again, thanks

[viscid swift]

Might change your tune after seeing 14-3

[wind hazel]

can't be that bad

[viscid swift]

50/50 chance

[sharp socket]

at least he isnt using faction gear, then it may actually be too difficult

[blazing maple]

I don't
fortunately

[viscid swift]

Like, what is the point of running faction fleets

Especially when half the time you aren't even running faction buffers

[blazing maple]

I just like em. that's it really

[viscid swift]

So there's no point in keeping the faction of the ships the same

[blazing maple]

I know

[wind hazel]

can be fun on its own

[blazing maple]

for me, yeah

again. it is entirely just my taste

[normal cedar]

what does CA caliber guns mean here? afaik saratoga doesn't equip any guns?
Also what is 'flooding' ailment? (from her third skill)

[viscid swift]

CA guns means guns of around 203mm

[normal cedar]

so hindenburg gun?

[forest palm]

something something ghost gun

[sharp socket]

her barrage fires CA gun shells which are like 203mm

[viscid swift]

It's a reference to the fact when the Lexingtons were first built they were equipped with 8 inch guns

[sharp socket]

but probably not that good damage

[normal cedar]

ohh ok I see

[viscid swift]

Flooding ailment is also just a flood

[sharp socket]

damage over time thing

[viscid swift]

Do you know what a flood is

[normal cedar]

Oh ok
didn't know ships could flood...

[viscid swift]

They very much can

[sharp socket]

for the purpose of AL its just a damage over time
however cheeky is here to give you a history lesson

[normal cedar]

got it, thanks!

[forest palm]

flood is just another dot ain't it

[viscid swift]

Yeah

Thought that much was obvious

[sharp socket]

if he never played warship game before its hard to know what flood does

[viscid swift]

Frankly I think I assume too much of the AL player base has a baseline knowledge of naval history

[wind hazel]

of course. we're here for anime girl boobs

[forest palm]

I like to ask the obvious question even if I know the answer it allows those that are lurking to understand

[vale spindle]

i had 0 knowledge of naval history before i played azur lane

in fact when i went to military museums in merica later on in life my first thought was "omg i saw this in azur lane"

[drowsy kite]

ugh 9gb of updates... why is it so huge

[polar lion]

Can I survive in 13-1 without any CV?

[viscid swift]

Maybe, depends on the set up

[stark quiver]

yes

run a good 6 ur setup and youll be fine

[viscid swift]

Though at that point I have to ask why

[polar lion]

tech grind

[stark quiver]

if youre thinking abt FARMING 13-1 with shitters dont

yea lets not, youll get destroyed

[viscid swift]

The extra cog income is borderline copies at that point

If you have no more main fleets left to level up then sure

[polar lion]

But it's almost double cog income

[viscid swift]

Double of what is at the end of the day still small portion of your overall income

And pointless if the set up you're thinking of running can't clear and sacks so much XP because you have to use so many carries as to make it inefficient

Which for context, I consider anything more than Unicorn wasteful

[zenith heron]

is it doable as usual to just use Gold Good AA guns in Chapter 15? Taking a break on OPSI and it will pause my UR Gear Lab Progress, but should it be fine?

[viscid swift]

Depends on the fleet and such

[zenith heron]

I see, as Long as it has the best ships then or doable ones, thanks

[stark quiver]

itll require more investment in other gears, top of the line fleets, and tech of course

[drowsy kite]

Why am I downloading 9gb at 1mb/s. This'll take forever and no my connection isn't that slow 😭

[viscid swift]

It may or may not work out

[stark quiver]

ive seen someone do 15-4 lethal with all purple gear

[zenith heron]

dw, I currently have the best ships for it, just not the best gear, if only my old phone did not get destroyed, then this wouldn't happen

[zenith heron]

yeah, Stig did that, and was impressive

[stark quiver]

my crunchyroll just crashed

[sweet delta]

Stig cheated and used some blue gear too

[polar lion]

U dun take a break from Opsi. U just do them bit by bit daily

[zenith heron]

I can do daily missions in Opsi, but my shitty phone currently can grind but does shit performance, so I can only do campaign grind and usual stuff other than OPSI, so there's that...

well world 15 is no better so, I might back out on my word

[stark quiver]

trust me, ch15 will be much worse than anything else in gmae

[viscid swift]

Yeah you might wanna push back doing w15 entirely if your phone is having trouble with less demanding stuff

[zenith heron]

Ic, I'll just stick to chapter 12 then for normal grind, and the rest, but OPSI might not be a go to for me as of now...

it literally crashes the game when at OPSI, so there's that

[stark quiver]

real

[polar lion]

How to get more cogs? I need cogs 😭

[sharp socket]

buy them during event shops, and farm w12 a whole lot

else go 3* hard nodes

[viscid swift]

Also just prioritize better

If a ship doesn't give good tech then just leave them capped for the time being

Like so

[polar lion]

But BB AA might be situationally good to decrease aviation dmg

[viscid swift]

My dude

[stark quiver]

this is why you dont have cogs

[viscid swift]

With how little BB AA there's to farm that's cope and you know it

[polar lion]

Yea

[sweet delta]

Like this

[stark quiver]

the 2nd?

i forgot or was it akane

[sweet delta]

The second option

[viscid swift]

Actually this would have been a better example

[wind hazel]

🤝

[sweet delta]

Wtf cheeky coin cap is as high as mine

[stark quiver]

doesnt nothing happen after 150

[viscid swift]

I just haven't bought all the guild upgrades if any

[stark quiver]

[honest sequoia]

[viscid swift]

Like what is the point

If I'm gonna be overcapped anyway

[stark quiver]

i dont buy guild stuff, idek if i have max dock from it

[polar lion]

Just buy them either way coz we hav excess guild coins

[viscid swift]

I don't

[wind hazel]

but it cost coin too

dock slot not bought and not maxed

[stark quiver]

why does this man only have 3k guild coins, what happened bruh

[viscid swift]

I'm a new player

[stark quiver]

inactive ahh guild

[viscid swift]

We are in fact looking for new recruits

[whole crypt]

tiny ass guild smh

no new recruits to speak of on JP

[fickle hollow]

is plymouth coinable?

[honest sequoia]

Next year maybe

[slow fox]

Are you on Avrora

[viscid swift]

No

Amagi

[cobalt rapids]

the best server

[abstract stump]

uh next update dead week again

[honest sequoia]

Isn’t amagi like known to be toxic

[inner delta]

[normal cedar]

have they done off time maint like tmr's before?
is it due to some specific upcoming event within the anniv?

[stark quiver]

prelude to anni event

[sweet delta]

no, she's sick

[hybrid schooner]

What to do with leftover energy in OPSi after being done with all 'achievements' & bosses/dailies/whatever? Is there an efficient way of farming mats or sth?

[wind hazel]

repeat c3 or c5

[hybrid schooner]

Is there any difference between them in terms of drops or is it just c5 if you don't have time to do c3?

Gotcha, thank you kindly

[wind hazel]

usually the latter but experience may vary

[eternal basalt]

c5 has 1-2 cats while c3 just has 1

[hybrid schooner]

Yeah but I'd guess it might be compensated by Akashi encounters in case she'd have AP stuff decently often

[honest sequoia]

Just pray that scam cat gives u AP while running c3

[hybrid schooner]

[normal cedar]

I already have enty, franklin, perseus, saratoga retro, unicorn retro
Which of the following are worth retrofitting, given the cv's I have : Ark Royal, Hiryuu, Soryuu, Shouhou, Ranger, Bogue, Hermes, Langley

Or I can also obtain Kearsarge

[sweet delta]

None, their retrofits are just for easier time to level to 120

Obtain August von parseval

[atomic abyss]

Kears is low priority amongst the DRs

[normal cedar]

im broke on ib tech points, only hv eagle points for now
i just wanted to use my retroprints somewhere
any of them having good tech in that case for 120?

[atomic abyss]

Souryuu, Shouhou, Langley have useful CV rld tech

Hiryuu was Avi, I think so was Ark?

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks! Ill retro them based on that then

[sweet delta]

Reserve bps for August

[normal cedar]

you mean catchup?

[sweet delta]

I mean retrofit. And go farm cruisers for San Diego

[normal cedar]

ok, got it
I already have all retroprints needed for full sandy retro for a month now, she just needs to appear in shop💀

[sweet delta]

Or oath someone and get exam

[normal cedar]

also, just a last question about cv
is bataan worth using in full cv fleet for 15% rld?

thanks

[ebon topaz]

Which ship should i get from the research academy

[atomic abyss]

If you wanted to do that, independence retrofit cos she has crossfleet

[atomic abyss]

Priority goes to Frederich de Grosse from series 2 and Anchorage from series 4

[ebon topaz]

Aight thx :D

[atomic abyss]

Can't get them cos of requirements? Work on one of the series 1 frontliners

So Roon/Saint Louis/Ibuki/Neptune

[ebon topaz]

I kinda alr have 100 points on kearsage 😭 does that carry over or nah

[atomic abyss]

The points aren't used, it's like a milestone thing

Kears is low priority for a rainbow anyways

[ebon topaz]

Building louis rn :D

[normal cedar]

are the siren loggers r5, r6 worth getting from the voucher shop if I cant fully clear them?
I can do siren r5 like 40% and r6 like 60%

[paper walrus]

Are we really able to buy out all the opsi shops? Just the st petersburg shop alone seems impossible

What am i missing

[cobalt rapids]

do u use rest and regroup and the two nodes on the side to restore morale ?

[woven star]

use auto

[cobalt rapids]

if u clear all shiny icons in ur opsi map u should be able to afford everything in shop
altho u can skip on useless stuff if u have the new shop

[paper walrus]

Hm ok

[cobalt rapids]

a big chunk of tokens comes from strongholds

[woven star]

btw sometimes coordinates hide unsecured map, to unlock everything in shop you must clear all maps (explorable tab maps)

[paper walrus]

I havent done strongholds yet so maybe thats why i thought i wouldnt make it

[woven star]

you can swap tab... 3 category - explorable, secured and hidden in auto search... use first one, stronghold usually on secured tab map. just use auto to clear world first
edited: stronghold have own map, who knows

or before enter map swap between actually 2 category - secured and explore

[boreal wagon]

yes hi i am a day late but yes it does in Sync View or if u click on the cooldown number

[winter quartz]

So the newbie missions are asking me to marry. First of all wth is it my mother or something, second - aren't those rings paywalled if I waste my free one?

[atomic abyss]

No because we've consistently gotten a free ring every EN anni

Just oath your waifus

[winter quartz]

Oh that's good

[atomic abyss]

And they technically aren't pay walled since they're bought with gems, so if you really wanted to, you can use the free gems you get for them

Though I don't recommend that

[winter quartz]

I don't have a single UR so far lmao, do I oath Long Island?

[atomic abyss]

If she's your waifu by all means

[winter quartz]

It doesn't give stats or something?

[atomic abyss]

Oathing for the sake of meta is pointless unless you're doing mass oaths on multiple ships

It does but not by much

If anything, oathing one meta ship but not the others may end up screwing up time sensitive things like airstrike syncing

Hence why the whales oath just about everything they intend to use

Rather than just, 1

Tldr, oath waifus

An extra 3-6% stats isn't gonna make much difference

[winter quartz]

mhm got it

Jarvis then

[atomic abyss]

it's Jervis, this isn't ironman

[normal cedar]

else I can just get the one time blue loggers

[woven star]

so Jervis have no oath skin

[winter quartz]

Is it basically wedding dress every time?

[cobalt rapids]

the wedding skin is a wedding dress or attire yes, some less dress than others

[gaunt cedar]

speaking of jervis is she good? i just got her, should i replace her for laffy for second fleet? my dtarter was z23 but i got laffey drop too

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt raise her

[gaunt cedar]

[drowsy kite]

do I use the gems to buy all the slots in the dorm? or use them somewhere else?

[cobalt rapids]

check /gems command in #bot-spam

[tame orchid]

Can anyone help figure out what gear i need to make in gear lab in a thread?

[cobalt rapids]

i can in like 30min

[tame orchid]

Aight thanks

Gear lab stuff

[pure tree]

What ship should I use my bulin on

[atomic abyss]

Howe and Katsuragi since you're already using them

[cobalt rapids]

kazan and d7p, afterwards save for sandy
if ure pre oilcap

[atomic abyss]

Umi that ignores what he is using already

I mean sure you can make the case for Katsuragi

But Howe is perfectly fine

[cobalt rapids]

30 lvls is basically nothing at that low lvl and those ships are 0 bulin invested yet

[atomic abyss]

They're 70 and capped

Not 30

Kursk is even at 80

[cobalt rapids]

kazan is 40

[wind hazel]

70-41

[simple dove]

yo ender, whaat do i do now that i got two ur bulins

[pure tree]

Alr thx, but who's d7p

[cobalt rapids]

zeven provincien

[simple dove]

de seven provinuernfujemr

[pure tree]

I see thx

[atomic abyss]

Save

[simple dove]

i thought you said york ii

[atomic abyss]

Dude you cannot expect me to remember your specific dock...

[cobalt rapids]

kazan unicorn ?? - d7p helena and your starter dd to push till oilcap because im assuming u didnt reach w9 yet

[simple dove]

idk, i just came to re ask, sorreh

[wind hazel]

thought i'd answered this question in your thread lol

[atomic abyss]

I help like hundreds of people

[pure tree]

Ok ok

[atomic abyss]

I cannot remember everyone lol

[simple dove]

ye but i require the assistance of several

[wind hazel]

i told you ender would say save as well

[simple dove]

it was mostly because of this cursed ur sharing

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[atomic abyss]

Oh right

Ignore laff2 mlb yk2

[cobalt rapids]

ur 3rd backline option is kinda in the air can you show ur other mainfleet ships ( elites )

[simple dove]

now?

[wind hazel]

[atomic abyss]

Not like you have enough to mlb a new UR

[simple dove]

jawohl

[wind hazel]

why not? what if he get 3 copies

[atomic abyss]

And by the looks of it

It seems to be another UR BB

[simple dove]

oh, no use then, i have enough already

[whole crypt]

something something CN anniv but at those levels I'd say just MLB Laffey II and put her to use

[atomic abyss]

This tbh

But prio Yk2 first anyways

[pure tree]

Rn I'm just using this

[cobalt rapids]

yea i know, i meant in ur dock

[whole crypt]

Yorktown II not bad but less outstanding without pairing

[atomic abyss]

A UR CV is a UR CV

[sharp socket]

sir its a UR

[atomic abyss]

US frontliners are incredibly common

[simple dove]

mm i dont think i have use for york ii rn, also considering im working towards anchorage now

[sharp socket]

theyre gonna be good whether their req is fulfilled or not

[wind hazel]

why not just save and see what CN anni brings

[atomic abyss]

I don't think Lion and Anson are CVs

[wind hazel]

ye but who knows the 2nd UR gonna be another z52, if there's one

[simple dove]

cause if i cursibly distribute my urs one more time i think someone in gph is gonna strangleme

[whole crypt]

I make no further comment without full context

[atomic abyss]

Just use Howe and Kazan together at this point

[paper walrus]

How usable is cheshire?

[cobalt rapids]

yea..

[reef flume]

All these URs are going to take me til 2030 to mlb them all🥲

[atomic abyss]

Extremely in the plane hells

Outside of it, meh

[cobalt rapids]

i coped u had a sara hidden in there

[pure tree]

Alr

[atomic abyss]

That's what the lore nerds say at least

[paper walrus]

I kind of needed another good aa ship aside from sandy so thats good

[normal cedar]

it's just 3 days left, perhaps they can wait...

[atomic abyss]

Another z52?

It wouldn't change anything tbh

[simple dove]

is there any way to change this setup to make it moderately more anchorage achievment friendly, oh by the way unzen is just barely out of frame

[atomic abyss]

There is
RUN A FULL US VANGUARD

[simple dove]

of whar

[whole crypt]

or even just running any USS vanguard at all

[atomic abyss]

Portland Helena and something else

[simple dove]

i dont have portland

[atomic abyss]

Why are you even using Lv 125 ships for grinding

Did you complete your beginner missions at all

[whole crypt]

Portland is in guild shop

[simple dove]

no

[atomic abyss]

If no, go complete them

[simple dove]

wasnt bothered, really

[atomic abyss]

Then you can get a free enterprise or sandy

[whole crypt]

and yes you need to raise her for rookie missions

[atomic abyss]

They're going to change the missions so
Better do it asap

Raise Portland so you can complete the beginner missions, and use her for anchorage grind

[whole crypt]

well you lose rewards if you don't finish the missions in the next 9 days or so

[simple dove]

oh yeah, aalso this

[whole crypt]

well you lose rewards if you don't finish the missions in the next 9 days or so

[atomic abyss]

So Portland Helena and I guess Laffey 2 if you're doing it in w12

[simple dove]

can i substitute portlaand

[atomic abyss]

Why are you so insistent on not using her

[simple dove]

portland is currently not available

[wind hazel]

he doesnt wanna complete the missions

[atomic abyss]

She is always in the guild shop

The guild shop
As a blue rarity ship

[simple dove]

this is the current state of portland

[whole crypt]

he doesn't want free enty

[atomic abyss]

Then use exp books to level her

[simple dove]

i have none, i spent it all on helena and saratoga

[atomic abyss]

A mlb Portland is more useful than that Guam you have there

[wind hazel]

lol

[whole crypt]

guild shop refreshes up to 4 times a week

[atomic abyss]

Get more then
Get to grinding with laffey2 and Helena in w12 then

Then sub in Portland when she's levelled

Do you really want to forgo a free enterprise

[simple dove]

why would i need an extra enterprise

[atomic abyss]

That you know, is one of Yorktown 2's best partners?

Then you get a hood or Illustrious then

You will want Illustrious for w15

[simple dove]

i have illustrious

[whole crypt]

or any of the rookie selection if you missing any or even just 10 medals

[woven star]

do we get rework of rookie missions?

[atomic abyss]

If you haven't been reading #game-news, yes

[whole crypt]

will probably drop with anniv

[normal cedar]

Uranium, do you not have anchorage? since you seem to have agir

[simple dove]

i had a phase

[atomic abyss]

He is literally grinding for Anchorage

Yes so stop anymore foolish phases and raise Portland

[simple dove]

the phases will continue

[atomic abyss]

Then I'm not sure why you're even asking here

[whole crypt]

but anyway your loss, your choice, we can only give you recommedations and it's your game in the end

[atomic abyss]

If you don't want to use Portland, fine
It'll take like 40% longer then

[polar lion]

Wait I haven't finished my rookie missions. What will happen to it?

[atomic abyss]

They intend to change them

So it's a good assumption that all unclaimed rewards will be lost

[simple dove]

the phases will occur because i wont be asking for help constantly and also sometimes getting gud isnt worth sacrificing the funni

[whole crypt]

it's not even an assumption

I'm fairly sure it's in writing anything you didn't do or claim is gone

[polar lion]

Do I hav to do it again from start?

[atomic abyss]

They will most likely give new/different rewards I imagine

[whole crypt]

everyone will get a new set of something we don't have details of the revamp

[atomic abyss]

So why the hell wouldn't you take any free stuff

[whole crypt]

we just know anything from old rookie stuff that isn't done will be gone

[polar lion]

Coz I want to kee my proof of rookieness

[atomic abyss]

So then, use Helena and Laff2
Just know it'll take like 40% longer

[limpid dock]

Hello, I wanna ask how good is bayard and what's her practical usage?

[whole crypt]

just claim it and don't do the new ones then

[atomic abyss]

Very good
But has no notable use in any content

It's kinda weird

But that's how it is when your competition is with other CLs that have multiple, clearly defined niches

[simple dove]

wait random question, do level 125s still add up to the whole exp thing

[atomic abyss]

They do, but you're wasting the exp when you could level someone else up

[atomic abyss]

When I say very good
I mean she has very good numbers for both tankiness and DPS

[limpid dock]

I see, I just finished developing her and was wondering if she should be in mob or boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

Her kit wants her to take more damage
Mob

[whole crypt]

regardless of XP caps ships will always contribute to research and lecture hall if the otherwise fulfill the requirements, even if they show 0 xp on results

[sharp socket]

when in doubt chuck in mob fleet

[whole crypt]

finished as in dev30 or just unlock, just unlock is 🚮

[sharp socket]

also while we're on this where would kiev rate for damage compared to 1. laffey retro 2. tashkent 3. eldridge retro

[atomic abyss]

Regular Kiev?

[sharp socket]

yes

[whole crypt]

is there a non-regular Kiev

[limpid dock]

Both

[atomic abyss]

Uh I want to say above Eld retro but below laff2

[sharp socket]

laff retro not laff2

[limpid dock]

I have her dev30, I know dev ships are bad until at least dev25

[atomic abyss]

Tashkent isn't in the conversation then, she's way too far ahead

She shd be better than Eld and Laff Kai

But need maff to be sure

[whole crypt]

without context she's just a good CL with no notable specialty or niche

[sharp socket]

alright thanks also is she torp or gun dd or fast gun dd

[atomic abyss]

165% main gun eff

120% torp eff

What do you think

[whole crypt]

practically all russian DDs are gun DDs

[atomic abyss]

Anyways looking at the tissue paper maff

Unless Eld retro is getting 100% hit rate on the barrage (lol)
I believe Kiev shd do noticeably more

[whole crypt]

but I place Kiev in the "good enough but why would you use her" pile like the 20% or so ships out there

[sharp socket]

alright thanks i know where to put her now

[atomic abyss]

Sometimes I wonder if we underrate her tbh

[whole crypt]

underrate her for what, context

[atomic abyss]

I believe she's only second to Plymouth for CL DPS?

She's ahead of sandy for as long as the augment bug remains iirc

She's also incredibly tanky

[wind hazel]

isnt her dps skewed for mobbing

[atomic abyss]

She is yes

I don't mean for bossing
Ply has no contest there amongst CLs

[whole crypt]

let me check, she's fairly high but G don't remember her being 2nd

[atomic abyss]

She shd be top few
Ahead of Harbin and Mainz and co

[wind hazel]

also isnt watarase dps higher than ply against heavy

[atomic abyss]

Michita syndrome
Iirc the more damage she takes the more she does

[cobalt rapids]

mainz fell on her face at the starting line

[atomic abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280223721809907742/1370726923763974175/Screenshot_20250510_191911_Chrome.png?ex=6823d82d&is=682286ad&hm=b5f3bb31cf0fef1597aa9506b2b3c95709dd015c0dd9f285c49e97473ccc4d57&

Old SS so please ignore the arrow

But Bayard is ahead of Kron...

And if you account for the W14/15 torp/plane dmg bias well

[cobalt rapids]

kinda dependant on the flag

[light trail]

how do you unlock the rainbow skills in the tempesta cats

[wind hazel]

ye with someone like musashi of course

[cobalt rapids]

musasi with porple gun

[whole crypt]

shimanto ballpark behind sandy and harbin

[wind hazel]

just level them

[light trail]

oh cool

[atomic abyss]

Light armour bias for w14/15 is crazy

[atomic abyss]

Harbin with mog gun I assume?

[whole crypt]

yeh

[atomic abyss]

Bayard's main issue is that she doesn't do what most CLs are expected to do

Have some form of support/utility

[whole crypt]

Bayard needs a quad for that comparison so its still not out of the weeds for average player

[atomic abyss]

So you wouldn't use her over ply
You wouldn't use her over sandy
You wouldn't use her over Shimanto

[whole crypt]

exactly

[atomic abyss]

Well Harbin is mostly sidelined at this point admittedly

Well we shd get Bayard FS5 soon

[whole crypt]

I like her because good sustained DPS in quick mobbing

[atomic abyss]

Barrage unga bunga

[whole crypt]

Bayard might take that slot with FS who knows

[atomic abyss]

I mean she already is barrage unga bunga

[whole crypt]

I am considering replacing Harbin with Sandy for OS mob

[tame orchid]

Is there any other way to make the gold aa gun before rainbow EU aa gun, it needs like 45 electronic mats 💀

[whole crypt]

nope you just have to pony up

[tame orchid]

Fuck

[atomic abyss]

I mean isn't Harbin more heavy biased anyways

Couldn't you chuck an Ibuki if you didn't already

[whole crypt]

I think one of the paid dev boxes had the gun but not worth money

[tame orchid]

Alr thanks

[whole crypt]

Harbin is kind of both because strong DD gun plus torps, Ibuki doesn't have smooth DPS between reloads

I'm using Hindenburg/Harbin/Ibuki now and the possible replacement is actually Sandy, who also helps the triple carrier concealment against planes

[atomic abyss]

For strongholds?

And I guess abyssals too
You were one of the people that used mob fleets for abyssals right

[whole crypt]

I can, it's a mood thing

sometimes I use a boss fleet because it's just faster

[atomic abyss]

That's my justification too

Tho usually I only end up remembering it when I suddenly see a D rank on my screen

[whole crypt]

like I'm not waiting for a 1min fight on the mob fleet if the boss fleet can one-strike it

strongholds are 100% mob fleet

interesting, Wed maint

and Tue next week

CTA ships QE QEM POW HelenaM

[atomic abyss]

Lore says the leeked image has Lion and Anson

[whole crypt]

leeks

[atomic abyss]

Do you know which image I'm talking about?

[whole crypt]

but anyway there's a CN pic out there with what seems to be Lion yes

I know which image but speculations, I refuse to attach names before announcement

[atomic abyss]

Well you know how the lore nerds are

[normal cedar]

how do I reach the box? i cant enter from any side....

[whole crypt]

bad map rng looks like no way in

happens, just move on

[normal cedar]

oh ok, didnt know this was possible lol
thanks!

[whole crypt]

which is why I like laughing in their face when they get it completely wrong

[muted swift]

Help

[whole crypt]

Shinano

[cobalt rapids]

what are ur other URs ?

[simple dove]

idk, me personally im a shinano person

[muted swift]

No other UR

So Shinano it is?

[atomic abyss]

Shinano it is if you have no other

[muted swift]

Only good CV I have is the uni retrofit

[atomic abyss]

...you have Kron tho

Shinano still anyways

[muted swift]

Yeah only Kron

[simple dove]

yo i need these thingamabobs, where do i get em

[tame jungle]

opsi

[whole crypt]

run more OS, a lot more OS

[simple dove]

got it, no more opssi

[woven star]

in some choice pack boxes, but mostly opsi

[cobalt rapids]

active players get like 100 per month or so ive heard

[whole crypt]

whenever the question is lab mats the only answer is more OS

[tame jungle]

run opsi till you're sick of it and then continue running more opsi

[simple dove]

got it, quit the game

[whole crypt]

material income also affected by clvl

[tame orchid]

Yeah free up bandwidth so more of us can play

By play i mean grind more opsi ofc

[whole crypt]

honestly OS is like 0 effort afk when I play other stuff so

[simple dove]

random question

[whole crypt]

(like 95% of the game)

[cobalt rapids]

strategic search dailies when

[tame jungle]

if you're not running opsi alongside playing another game + watching a show in the background are you even gen z gaming

[simple dove]

do i need american bb main guns or aa guns

[muted swift]

Ok I got Shinano, thanks guys!

[whole crypt]

but I'm not gen z

[cobalt rapids]

shes gonna be a bench warmer till u exchange/drop her like 4 more times

[whole crypt]

without coetext neither

[tame orchid]

Doing opsi while watching nilered turn wine into water goes hard

[simple dove]

for funsies

[whole crypt]

make random planes for fun

[simple dove]

boring, which planes

[whole crypt]

guide is out there, if you're choosing to not follow them we have no better recommendations

[simple dove]

the only thing its telling me to do is make more pancakes and several things are outlined red

i have no sense of priority because it dunt tell me anything

[tame jungle]

we have no sense of what your priorities are since "for funsies" isn't exactly something we can base our advice around

[whole crypt]

not sure what you want to know flapjacks and wyverns basically best generic planes, we don't recommend random stuff for fun if there's no positive implication on gameplay

[simple dove]

i have no good aa guns and i need aa guns, but getting ur aa guns is a long hassle

essentially this is all i got and it aint pretty

[tame jungle]

seems fine to me honestly (at least workable)

[simple dove]

it aaint viable w13 onwards

[whole crypt]

what's not viable about sextuple roomba and quad bofors for 13

[cobalt rapids]

quad bofors and twin 113 and sextuple are enough for w13 and 14, just open more boxes
also get some staags from research

[simple dove]

this is what im workin with

i cant figure out where to get these things

[paper walrus]

Isnt staags only good for backliners

[tame jungle]

mostly yes, you can also use them on torp vanguards to make their crits more consistent

[simple dove]

i also kinda need planes but the guides a bit not very helpful here with priority

[cobalt rapids]

2 ju87-d4, 2 wyverns

[whole crypt]

for campaign it's just flapjacks and wyverns

[simple dove]

gotcha

[cobalt rapids]

flapjacks are low prio

[simple dove]

ju87-d4 why?

[whole crypt]

D-4 isn't doing anything for ch13 in particular either

[cobalt rapids]

timing adjustment converging tb

[signal fog]

next reset is maintenance ?

[whole crypt]

it's not a bad plane but I don't think it's relevant to his current position

[tame jungle]

the reset after that

[whole crypt]

this week maint is wed

[tame jungle]

wait no misinfo sorry, it is on wednesday this time around

[cobalt rapids]

and conv tb are your go to for single target for torpedo slots and for flex slots on heavy

bomber fighters surface dmg is low and bumping it with 18% doesnt warrant the use of materials to rush it
either way no point pushing campaign till ure not stable in opsi but hellcats are perfectly fine in w13

[signal fog]

thanks for answering ❤️

[wind hazel]

you're welcome

[tame jungle]

what's the max for guild coin storage upgrades again? +15k?

[eternal basalt]

50 x 300. Yes, that's 15k

[warped acorn]

whats the chance of winning 15-4 with 1 fleet only

[atomic abyss]

0

[cobalt rapids]

depends how strong ur account is

[atomic abyss]

You'll get stuck on the 2nd boss

[cobalt rapids]

one fleet 15-4 has alr been done

[warped acorn]

even combining mob/boss ships?

[eternal basalt]

On safe

[normal cedar]

https://youtu.be/483787ENun8
it seems to have been done here...

[cobalt rapids]

yes on lethal no subs no support

[warped acorn]

h

[eternal basalt]

Wonder if it was pre-fix

[cobalt rapids]

what prefix

[eternal basalt]

15 was broken at release, took a few days to fix it up

[cobalt rapids]

i mean it has guam and laffey

[normal cedar]

how is the number of planes during an airstrike determined? also how are the number of bombs dropped determined?
for example, I only have 1 helldiver equipped on enty yet her airstrikes seems to have lots of bombers dropping lot of bombs

[tame jungle]

an equipment slot has a certain amount of planes (kinda like gun mounts if you will)

[cobalt rapids]

carriers number of planes vary on slot just how bbs have mounts

[atomic abyss]

Most carriers have 8 planes
Most light carriers have 6 planes

[novel solstice]

Each slot has a number associated with it which is how many copies of the plane it will launch. Some slots get +1 on limit breaking.

[normal cedar]

I see, got it thanks
Number of bombs in that case is just each planes individual bombs as it is, multiplied by number of planes

[forest palm]

plane count can also affect RLD times

[normal cedar]

are the siren loggers r5, r6 worth getting from the voucher shop if I cant fully clear them?
I can do siren r5 like 40% and r6 like 60%

[undone plover]

Yeah they still give better rewards than the coin u need to buy them

There is a few tricks to push that 40-60% a bit further
There are 2 hidden mobs in the lower corners of the boss map which lets you get rid if the low resolve debuff and have 2 extra fights
And there is the command that costs 50 AP that fully heals your fleets but it has a 8 hour cooldown

[normal cedar]

Yea, I know the mobs and 50ap command, the 40% is after all that
Not coin shop, I'm talking about the voucher shop ones...

[undone plover]

Yes because voucher is there to be used
I would still use it unless u want to speedrun a wyvern
In that case u can buy multiple blue file zones to get the selector UR designs

[forest palm]

loggers are mats, so they're gonna hold their value

[normal cedar]

I see, thanks!

Ah, also what's the maximum limit for adapts? I'm at 208/211/200 and wanna reach maximum before taking on arbiter

[forest palm]

203/203/156 though the last one isn't that relevant to hit

[normal cedar]

But that's the recommended for arbiter right?
When does the number stop going up? Since I already exceeded 203...

[forest palm]

it doesn't, that's the best part

[undone plover]

technically the max visible is 999 but I think that is only what is shown
It could go higher than 999 but not shown

[hollow gust]

its useless going over 203

[normal cedar]

I see, so here full adapt refers to 203/203/156 right? and If I go higher, the arbiter stats will reduce further?

[undone plover]

no that is the effective cap
any higher will not change anything

[normal cedar]

Oh I see, got it, thanks!!

[winter quartz]

Is it cool to boost my mfs past lvl 100 with chips or am I bricking? (DZP and z23 so far hit 100)

[cobalt rapids]

its cool

[winter quartz]

[chrome fiber]

How many cube's have y'all saved up

"How many cube's is it recommended to have during a UR event"

[cobalt rapids]

why

[late flame]

for the first, #al-general exists
for the second, at least 400 cubes

[stoic pewter]

any better backlines for nakhimov grind

[cobalt rapids]

ure good

unless these ships are alr lvled in which case u should lvl some1 else

[honest sequoia]

does sushi have a guide on hermit besides strength

[stoic pewter]

103, 105, and 111 respectively

[cobalt rapids]

not to my knowledge but u can apply the guide from strength to hermit
hermit is the least special

[undone plover]

marco polo is bad 120 tech but she is cute

[cobalt rapids]

ah right she was fp on collection

[forest palm]

Marco for that sweet HP+ tech

[gray sphinx]

Eventually you want to 120 almost every ship you can for tech points but that’s more sweaty and for end game players who want to start tackling the late late campaign stages

[honest sequoia]

???

[forest palm]

nothing sweaty about 120 tech grind when that's all there's left to do

[worthy pike]

what should buy

[last zenith]

personally

Buy augment materials. u get em too slow

[worthy pike]

imma get the gray ones ig

[last zenith]

gray ones?

those super rare rocks?

[worthy pike]

the ones that look like obsidian

[last zenith]

the one that costs 300 good

[worthy pike]

should i get the super expensive one

[silk sphinx]

the 2.5k? nah

[worthy pike]

ok ill just focus on the gray one

[silk sphinx]

honestly you should've farmed a bit more and gotten the cognitive stuff too but oh well

[worthy pike]

didn't have much time go grind

well i did, I just didn't want to open the game

[silk sphinx]

yeh, rl >> game

[plush pike]

New player here, Could sm1 help me in making 2 fleets?

[little tree]

What stage in campaign are you?

[plush pike]

8-1

[cobalt rapids]

howe unicorn saratoga - d7p helena laffey

[little tree]

Make sure you fully limit break d7p

You will use one fleet to chaoter 9 or 10.

[plush pike]

Ur’s not worth using? They are always my top dmg

[undone plover]

ships that are not full star are not worth using until they are
NJ and UvH are not worth spending UR bulins on
especially when new UR is like 2 weeks away

[forest palm]

especially when there's a major event next week

[plush pike]

Alright, Thanks

[rapid grail]

call to arms starts after this wednesday maint right?

Thought that'd happen on next week maint instead

[undone plover]

also ppl recommended 1 fleet because u dont want to build fleet 2 before u hit oil cap
work on the fleet neko recommended to you
if u have war archive keys maybe try and farm universe in unison or passionate polaris last maps cuz they have oil cap and they dont have commander level requirement

[rapid grail]

Ah, don't have much time to play this game; I've got exams next week. Ty guys

[forest palm]

not like there's 3 week to do the event

[little tree]

They will be benched for a while

[eager marsh]

Is there a priority for coin use? I've never had coins overflowing before

[sullen birch]

What ship you guys advice from PR 5 ?

[little tree]

Plymouth/ brest

[sullen birch]

Ok

[little tree]

I forget is agir good in opsi bossing

[warped acorn]

w8 with 150 dock space 🤯

[little tree]

Or heavy armor still not that good

[atomic abyss]

Pretty normal for new player

[atomic abyss]

Perfectly fine

It's opsi

[little tree]

Thank you agian ende

[atomic abyss]

Heavy armour is better in most cases

[little tree]

Just w14 and 15 where they are benched cause of torpedoes then

[atomic abyss]

Torps and planes yes

[turbid marsh]

probably only need like 20 ships in total to get through main campaign XD

[lilac ivy]

Are there any guides to clearing guild bosses?

[turbid marsh]

your regular anti heavy boss fleet should work + subs + cats

[atomic abyss]

Honestly no because they're weak by comparison to even opsi bosses
Just use your typical heavy armour fleet with Shinano UR Amagi etc

[lilac ivy]

Ty guys

[ivory pawn]

If you’re not approaching 600k or whatever the hard cap was, just hold and you’ll blow through a bunch next week.

[gaunt cedar]

is there a reason why my guild isnt upgrading guild slots? i though one important part of being in a guild was dock space? that coin +1 upgrade was from me btw

[warped acorn]

oil storage cap 🤔

[woven star]

limit reached

[atomic abyss]

that's guild member size that has reached limit

[atomic abyss]

i feel like it's better to ask them than ask us
clearly they wanted to expand the guild size wanted to store more coins

[sharp socket]

who do i mlb for tech (i have 3 purins)

[split gazelle]

isn't it just personal tech that you have to buy

[shell willow]

first number is your own level, 2nd number is the guild's cap

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker?
good tech

[shell willow]

so they have dock maxed u just need to spend the resources yourself

[woven star]

according to income this is not so active guild or maybe new. btw even you didn't use logistic where guild have income

[gaunt cedar]

oh i see i thought it was collective my bad

[stark quiver]

oh hi cel, intrepid is avi

[sharp socket]

ill just do whoever then

[rapid grail]

imo dock space, oil space and coin space. Cat box discount more worth it if your guildies are tryhard (I've had lost a guildie over this single action)

[gaunt cedar]

thanks

[stark quiver]

oak is fp
theseus is cvl avi
kursk is fp
brem is fp

[sharp pine]

What are good ap guns for Musashi? Her rainbow gun is really slow.

[rapid grail]

izumo gun (pr1), daisen gun (pr7)...

and that's it

[woven star]

from sr7 twin

[shell willow]

it is collective to raise the cap, but each member can upgrade their own tech within the cap

[stark quiver]

pick one

[woven star]

left slover Champy gun, right faster

both for Musashi

[stark quiver]

you wont use champy on musashi

[atomic abyss]

right is better

[rapid grail]

right gun (daisen gun) is good if u know the use case and condition (squeezing out extra salvos)
else pick left, OR use another UR BB without the gun faction limitation

[atomic abyss]

no, dont use any random UR BB gun

[whole crypt]

left and right are both better depending

[woven star]

ok. In team BBs with Champy guns for heavy enemy armor type if you want that Musashi fire first then twin. Otherwise she will be last with triple...

[rapid grail]

i didn't mention UR BB "gun" there...

[whole crypt]

it's not about firing first

[woven star]

depending what you want from Musi. Usually her barrage with debuff

but yeah twin maybe better

[atomic abyss]

[whole crypt]

in "generic" cases you just use purple 410 which also covers her shortfall of light damage
in bossing cases izumo gun is better if you don't need to use an autoloader for whatever it is

[atomic abyss]

the proto twin 410 is flat out better dmg wise

410 kai is better if you're mobbing for reasons stated above

izumo gun you just dont use anymore if you have the daisen gun tbh

[whole crypt]

izumo gun's 3 shells is 533.61 vs 410's 2 shells at 507, izumo gun still hits harder assuming spread doesn't screw you

this is against heavy where 410 has better mod

[woven star]

imo they ar 3 good. depends on situation and what you want from her. btw izumo has higher med dmg

[whole crypt]

the reason you pick daisen gun is because you can use a shell instead of a loader in the cases where izumo gun needs one to squeeze in a hit or something

that or you already got one from doing PR7 then there's no point spending additional resources making an izumo gun

[atomic abyss]

0 rld, daisen gun afct

comfortable 4 salvo

[whole crypt]

the reason you pick daisen gun is because you can use a shell instead of a loader in the cases where izumo gun needs one to squeeze in a hit or something

[atomic abyss]

given musashi has high barrage dmg

it's usually better to squeeze in another salvo, than have higher salvo dmg

[whole crypt]

so how many times do we have to say Depends™️ again?

[atomic abyss]

it's just flat out better in this case

[sharp pine]

Guys, can we please not fight WW3 over what gun to put on Musashi?

You've both made your points

[wind hazel]

i'll do you one better, how is musashi

[atomic abyss]

the reality is, you now probably only use musashi on mob so you would only be using 410 kai

[wind hazel]

that's really assuming you have other UR BBs

if you're still using musashi for bossing then it really comes down to which gun you gonna get first, most likely daisen gun in this case

[fringe sail]

Chat, does Unicorn/Perseus's heal gets stronger by leveling up themselves and the planes?

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

When this ship launches an Airstrike: heals your entire Vanguard for 8.0% of its max HP.

Additionally, when this ship launches an Airstrike: heals all ships in your Vanguard for 7.0% and your Main Fleet for 3.5% of their respective max HP.
No, their heal is dependent on vanguard HP
So only skill level

it is different for ships like ryuuhou whose heal does scale off their own HP

but even then, planes do not affect a carrier's HP

...catapults do

[fringe sail]

I see thanks

[woven star]

if we talking about aspects of BBs gun: what's time between first and last (third) BB salvo? usually

[cobalt rapids]

about 3s

[woven star]

oh, I was thinking near 1.5 sec. thx

[undone plover]

Isnt that volley not salvo?

[cobalt rapids]

idk these terms but basically when button is pressed a bb needs about 3s+ to shoot all her shells if shes mgm + 2

[woven star]

Maybe some differences in terms but I think I got answer

[jaunty vault]

he said third BB

umi is never wrong

[undone plover]

Oh I thought he meant what neko meant here

[jaunty vault]

i dont even know what i mean

[fringe sail]

Ain't salvo the fire of the Guns alone and barrage is the AOE damage that's usually done by skills?

[cobalt rapids]

i dont even know what i even knew i know

[woven star]

Oh
Maybe not) I mean one BB fire period

[jaunty vault]

this isn't about barrages

that much I know

[undone plover]

Salvo = every 16-20 seconds i.e one cycle of reload
Volley = every mgm
Shell = every pew pew

[jaunty vault]

[woven star]

Then volley time

[jaunty vault]

is gascogne fire salvo or volley

[undone plover]

I think voltic was asking about mgm1 to mgm3 time
So neko was correct (also I didn’t say he was wrong )
But yeah that is volleys

[jaunty vault]

faerlin spreading misinfo with thorin pfp

[undone plover]

[atomic abyss]

tbh

a legitimate issue

[umbral briar]

I need help to improve fleet OS, any suggestions or is it good enough for now, for fleet 4 not yet made

[undone plover]

Need stop/slow for fleet 2

Also amagi wants off flag not flag

[umbral briar]

so Shinano / Haku > Impla?

[undone plover]

Replace kron with eldridge or haku with implacable
Haku with implacable is more consistent

[atomic abyss]

soyuz would be much better off in the bb fleet

[woven star]

Maybe Ancho (? in fleet 1) change on off tank position

[atomic abyss]

swap kron and ancho

[undone plover]

Or just remove her and get more dps

[atomic abyss]

but yes you need a slower for fleet 2

[undone plover]

Fleet 4 can be all your stuff with x-fleet btw
Like uvh guam etc

[umbral briar]

can i have list x fleet (x fleet mean cross?? i think)

[atomic abyss]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[jaunty vault]

/xfleet

[woven star]

Independence will be fine in fleet4

[undone plover]

She is geat in mob tho
Keep her there imo

[woven star]

Ok

[slender turtle]

Is it always implac with the ijn CVs if you dont have eldridge?

[inland shoal]

I'd rather say usually

[little tree]

I don't think eldrich slow is good enough anyway

[umbral briar]

so does it turn out like this i seem a little confused about Eldrich and Kron

[frank pulsar]

whether or not you rely on eldridge for slow depends on the boss

[atomic abyss]

soyuz to boss

soyuz bis2 alsace does more

[umbral briar]

who replaced? VG?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[umbral briar]

and mobs? fdg?

[atomic abyss]

fdg yeah

[umbral briar]

so that Soyuz is better for bosses. I thought she was a good area damage for mobs.

[atomic abyss]

pretty much all the UR BBs are good at both

soyuz can do mob but she is the best at boss

especially with nakhimov

[umbral briar]

for the submarine, i still use my old Meta i think (i dont even know if its meta or not :v) but what suggestions for the future, because i only have these 3 at level 120+

[sweet delta]

depends on your options

in any case, 101 should not be flag

[undone plover]

It is actually not that bad from what I know
Also in opsi you get soyuz + kron x-fleet if I am not wrong which makes first rotation pretty consistent

[sweet delta]

the upgrade with the least change would be 96 81 101.
the biggest upgrade but leveling a whole fleet would be flasher plus two of (albacore archerfish homura)

[undone plover]

But I use + these days so I could be wrong

[fringe sail]

Speaking of subs

My old one is- I58, 101, Archerfish

Now it's- Leonardo, Archerfish, Barraca

I don't know if I should switch one of my current SS with 101

[umbral briar]

I have all those ships, just raise affinity and level using books then it will be done

[atomic abyss]

101 is only for wolfpack

[fringe sail]

So I guess my current SS is ok

I wish I have more gold Bulin
They're all stock at level 70 and I just fully LB Kazagumo

[sweet delta]

then it doesn't matter what subs you use because you shouldn't be using subs

[paper ore]

Hello. The guide and videos you made for chapter 15 were very helpful. I 3* the entirety of it on lethal without Guam or Laffey 2. Thank you to everyone for the effort and resources in making those guides

[raven canyon]

is Izumo viable in any way whatsoever

[atomic abyss]

with her augment she is one of the best non-UR BBs in the game

she still cannot hold a candle to UR BBs tho

[raven canyon]

ic thank you

[honest sequoia]

If I’m using Neptune as tank
Does she prefer a beaver + washing or toolkit + washing

[atomic abyss]

mob tank use toolkit
boss tank use beaver

[honest sequoia]

if CL main tank In a boss fleet it’s still beaver yes?

[atomic abyss]

this applies to CA/Bs too unless bulge is needed

yes

[honest sequoia]

[slender turtle]

Whats a good fleet for helena meta fight?

[atomic abyss]

triple UR BB fleet with plymouth helena and something else (like z52, hinden, etc)

she's like the most straightforward of the metas, just a simple damage check, and not a hard one either
she doesnt hit particularly hard

[whole crypt]

didn't Helena laser spam towards the end

[hollow gust]

Also CVs are still king against Helena

[whole crypt]

well off the top of my head that was around NJ launch which makes her a cap120 era META as well

[hollow gust]

Back then it was triple BB meta yeah , but anti light CVs have been busted asf

[stark quiver]

BBs require lower investment

[whole crypt]

or just two-shot her

[stark quiver]

[whole crypt]

modern UR BB fleets should oneshot fine though

[stark quiver]

Yea
I ran 3 bb with 1 mk7 and it worked quite well

[atomic abyss]

im sure they are for you
but she has particularly high AA

for most players that dont have 5 HVARs

UR BBs are going to get much more mileage

[forest palm]

BBs are just low entry let's be honest you don't need like several UR pieces of gears

or limited SSR gear

[atomic abyss]

just 3 mk6s, double shells and you're good to go

and i guess some luck with helena

[honest sequoia]

Double shell on Helena meta??

Doesn’t she have a high EVA

[light trail]

what if we have 3 HVAR and 2 skyraider

[forest palm]

gonna have to use BFGs

then subsequently pull your hair out because timings won't line up

[cobalt rapids]

if u have 3 hvar and 2 skyraiders then u can probably oneshot her with both bbs and cvs

[atomic abyss]

im not saying its BiS
im saying how easy it is to get something close to optimal

optimal would likely be 3 MK7s and 2 AFCTs with 1 HPFCR