it might 
#gameplay-help
forest palm
whole crypt
it doesn't
forest palm
tested?
grizzled sundial
Well , york 2 skill said it buff exsex and york class CV , not faction only like some other skill which specify faction , hence i dunno if it even work .
whole crypt
someone did, not me
dreamy blade
Meta ships are tagged as being "hornet meta class" instead of what you'd expect iirc
forest palm
which is weird cause I'm pretty sure Souryuu and Hiryuu Meta work with the regular versions 
dreamy blade
They do but those are different from the id check for faction/class
hollow gust
AL and consistency 
whole crypt
yeh so far all the others are name/ID checks
forest palm
again I'd like to know who tested it
dreamy blade
forest palm
alright
dreamy blade
wait you were part of that conversation
whole crypt
keen walrus
Have any of the cruise pass METAs been released to the store yet? I missed a crystal on Sheffield and I think there is still no way to get it, right?
polar lion
Rank the comps based on the strongest vs Light?
Kear, Yorkii, Enty
Kear, Yorkii, Fritz
Kear, Yorkii, Nyak
Alsace, Bizwei, Vanny
Alsace, Bizwei, Soyuz
forest palm
Have any of the cruise pass METAs been released to the store yet? I missed a cry...
they're in the Meta Shop, but I don't think Sheffy has returned yet
dreamy blade
Most recently added was yamashiro meta I think?
whole crypt
Have any of the cruise pass METAs been released to the store yet? I missed a cry...
they're up to Trento now, doesn't look like they're adding them any faster to catchup than the new release pace
dreamy blade
Ah right Trento was last
whole crypt
so... in about half a year for Sheffield
whole crypt
Rank the comps based on the strongest vs Light?
Kear, Yorkii, Enty
Kear, Yorkii...
depends but I'll probably use the bottom one because your carrier comps have no stopper
stark quiver
Rank the comps based on the strongest vs Light?
Kear, Yorkii, Enty
Kear, Yorkii...
what boss
polar lion
One strike/salvo kill hTempy
whole crypt
soynakfritz can do that
stark quiver
kear yk2, nakh worked for me
if you have 2 ad1 you can run topmost comp, probably has the highest light cieling
whole crypt
the best part is you don't even need to change it for Strength 
forest palm
"2 AD-1"
whole crypt
oh wait you want a one strike not a one shot good luck with that one
polar lion
One strike/salvo kill run. I like 👍 💪 🤝
frosty slate
Any good comps against Jintsuu META?
hollow gust
Keary Yorktown Fritz z52 aurora elridge
stark quiver
One strike/salvo kill run. I like 👍 💪 🤝
with your gear and tech im pretty sure the top 3 can one strike
whole crypt
can you do enough to 1 strike without Helena 
not like I'm bringing Kearsarge back anyway
stark quiver
can you do enough to 1 strike without Helena <:NagaThonk:721896665174376539>
with maxed everything maybe?
i dont have max everything so i cant say
i mean kent and cleve exist 
slow fox
Just use helena
whole crypt
as you may have noticed I don't really care about one-striking, often not even about oneshotting
polar lion
Never thot to do that b4. Coz last time I tried the BB Vanny variant, there's no headroom to make it possible without Helena so I figured there's still not a big enuf headroom for other comps as well to kill without Helena
hollow gust
can you do enough to 1 strike without Helena <:NagaThonk:721896665174376539>
idk what you guys have been running but keary yorky has been more reliable then nahk soyuz for light
whole crypt
Kearsarge does more for light I just can't be bothered
I don't need reliable one strikes anyway
forest palm
I cannot be bothered to run Kears or Yorkii probably my least 2 used URs
whole crypt
Kearsarge takes up a precious UR slot for crossfleet
hollow gust
i cant be assed to run any BB , its purely personal preference
forest palm
not even I'm just lazy to switch out my shit past preset gear, the need to min/max isn't there
forest palm
like since Amagi I've mostly just used IJN CV to murder Arbiter
whole crypt
the lack of need to minmax is basically the whole thing about OS
polar lion
I want a 1 strike/salvo comp that can kill all HArbiters. So far only triple IJN CVs comp had achieved that for me
forest palm
yup
fallow sedge
Is de seven any good???
hollow gust
all 3 major CVs have enough output to oneshot different armor types,
forest palm
that's your take away....ok...
dreamy blade
Is de seven any good???
Top 3 AA, if you don't have Guam and laffii they are very good for w15
Although she isn't a tank like those 2 are
polar lion
One strike/salvo killing HArbiters each end of month is the only time I get the thrill of playing ze gayme aside from monotonous 120 grinding.
META kills are moar mechanic restricted. HArbiters are best for power ceiling punching bags
whole crypt
I get no thrill out of it regardless which is probably why
it's basically progress quest with extra steps for me at this point
slow fox
The thrill I find in this game is when a new event comes and everyone pings me for eHP
grizzled sundial
Collecting all the girl and see what kind of madness in comment section work for me .
eager mulch
@slow fox what are the ehp of the new ship (and ily)
honest sequoia
Is that a 10k volley dmg without crit 
stark quiver
No clue tbh
sinful escarp
for fishpack whats the difference between alba flag and flasher flag?
ionic aurora
any comp for yukikaze? i just came back after a 300 day break
ionic aurora
having trouble on third difficulty
thx
can you tell me what ship is the first vanguard in the first layout?
marsh sparrow
can you tell me what ship is the first vanguard in the first layout?
fushun retro
hollow gust
other ddgs are good enough
ionic aurora
thx
marsh sparrow
anyways,whats the website for showing ships loadout
hollow gust
just open some boxes
viscid swift
did you epen any T1s?
ionic aurora
opened all the grey boxxes
hollow gust
cause you didnt fill it up?
ebon topaz
cause you didnt fill it up?
Nvm had to rejoin 😭
ebon topaz
cause you didnt fill it up?
I selected but it still put exclamation mark
honest sequoia
is there a guide on how to beat lv95 supply disruption
and this is all i have
idk how i got 2 sub torpedoes either
plain saffron
Need torp aux for more ammo
grizzled stream
are you able to get to the boss with all your subs alive
honest sequoia
are you able to get to the boss with all your subs alive
No
i have not invested in submarine since day 1 playing AL
grizzled stream
usually the goal is to hide your way thru to the boss and unload everything on the boss
oh
honest sequoia
and idk how i got those submarine torp too
is this gear even enough to solo the boss
sharp comet
and idk how i got those submarine torp too
u can cheese it with royal fortune
honest sequoia
Need torp aux for more ammo
i have 1 ur oxy torp and 1 gold oxy torp
honest sequoia
u can cheese it with royal fortune
i dont got that 💔
sharp comet
shes in shop
grizzled stream
it's available in core data shop for like 1500
sharp comet
viscid swift
rather a waste of 1500 core data
honest sequoia
rather a waste of 1500 core data
thats what im thinking
let alone her weapon 800 core data
i dont think its even worth..
viscid swift
besides, level 65 is just fine considering what you really want is bidders
honest sequoia
besides, level 65 is just fine considering what you really want is bidders
but why do lv65 if the drop chance is higher on 95 no?
viscid swift
it's not
sour snow
Wrong image.... It's too old 
grizzled stream
ngl i do it for gold plates/xp books
viscid swift
bearing in mind the Mk8s which you craft bidders from are purple
forest palm
so the 40% chacne is a scam?
what you need to understand is Lv 95 has a more bloated loot pool which adds more RNG to getting Bidders
Lv 95 is there when you're done with the grind imo
stark quiver
but why do lv65 if the drop chance is higher on 95 no?
do lvl 65 until you get 6 bidders
marsh sparrow
u can cheese it with royal fortune
whats her setup?
late flame
i was reading stig's w14 guide found it curious why not all bidders?
sour snow
Need help building frontliners
stark quiver
i was reading stig's w14 guide found it curious why not all bidders?
different fire times n whatnot
honest sequoia
and this is all i have
idk how i got 2 sub torpedoes either
so is this enough to beat lv65??
and do i need oxy torps or snorkell and hull
viscid swift
and this is all i have
idk how i got 2 sub torpedoes either
well given a level 70 I58 is enough yes
grizzled stream
Need help building frontliners
balti/dd of some sort/chapa maybe, pretty general setup
honest sequoia
well given a level 70 I58 is enough yes
what about the aux?
forest palm
"Baltimore"
viscid swift
Need help building frontliners
uhhh, where are you in the main campaign?
viscid swift
what about the aux?
just use a pair of gold oxy torps
sour snow
uhhh, where are you in the main campaign?
Had been workin so i just finished 6 today 
honest sequoia
and this is the bidders that everyone is talking about right
viscid swift
well first things, first, scrap that fleet
grizzled stream
and this is the bidders that everyone is talking about right
correct
sour snow
I did your backline suggestions so now i'm stuck on who to build as a frontline
honest sequoia
stark quiver
whatre the downsides of pulling oil out of mail to grind affinity, kinda wanna get it over w/ fast
viscid swift
Need help building frontliners
Richelieu, Saratoga, Unicorn, Portland, [starter],Helena
and read that
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
grizzled stream
you don't have oil when you want to grind an event?
marsh sparrow
so you have tips for oil management
sour snow
Richelieu, Saratoga, Unicorn, Portland, [starter],Helena
and read that
https://s...
Might need pc to see this, phone doesn't want to load it 
marsh sparrow
Might need pc to see this, phone doesn't want to load it <a:intensifies:70508565...
switch to desktop mode on your phone then zoom in
grizzled stream
so you have tips for oil management
i'd imagine my tip is not going to be applicable for most players
marsh sparrow
welp,if it works dont bother fixing it
stark quiver
so you have tips for oil management
some people hold onto mail oil incase an event like parallel superimposition rolls around
with meta changing gear, but idk if thatll happen soon
while some people uh, unga bunga their mail insearch for the tech grind
dreamy blade
whatre the downsides of pulling oil out of mail to grind affinity, kinda wanna g...
caught unprepared when cn anni event actually has gear you want to grind for like hvars 
stark quiver
idk cos the cv meta for med is dominated by la9s and heavy already has the 4 tbs, unless they release a 5th better one
dreamy blade
farmable UR conv tb 
polar lion
We never got any event gear worth farming anymoar for a long time, no?
stark quiver
#trophy-room message
also to show, this was the result of hvar farming in 4-5 days, had around 100k oil in storage
viscid swift
well, doesn't mean it won't happen again
stark quiver
We never got any event gear worth farming anymoar for a long time, no?
it could happen next event, better to be prepared honestly,
which isnt what im doing lmfao
viscid swift
me personally, I'm saving for the W16 grind
stark quiver
grizzled stream
if it's zwei event rerun, i might be farming for it quite a bit, hard to pass for toolbox grind
normal cedar
what was the alsace ur gear? last anniversary
viscid swift
Mogador gun
polar lion
w16 grind?
stark quiver
if it's zwei event rerun, i might be farming for it quite a bit, hard to pass fo...
gotta do it for that sweet fleet power 
normal cedar
Mogador gun
only 1 copy in shop?
grizzled stream
fleet power is love, fleet power is life
viscid swift
w16 grind?
clearing and inevitably farming the drop ship
forest palm
fleet power is love, fleet power is life
it's also a useless metric
stark quiver
it's also a useless metric
i think he means the profile stat
polar lion
But since it's perma we can do it whenever we hav oil
forest palm
i think he means the profile stat
again still a useless metric
viscid swift
why not just low cost farm them, like on T3 of the current event
grizzled stream
fleet power doesn't give you any bonus for sure. i suppose you get tech points for getting MLB ships to max, but that's not only limited to fleet power
marsh sparrow
why not just low cost farm them, like on T3 of the current event
isnt t3 give lesser pts
forest palm
doesn't make the power rating system any less useless
viscid swift
isnt t3 give lesser pts
not if you low cost farm
dreamy blade
number go up good
grizzled stream
so is alot of other statistics in game. most do it cuz numbers go up
marsh sparrow
not if you low cost farm
I see,so if I spam low cost farm
the pts difference can be catch up quickly
viscid swift
well no
polar lion
Taz prolly just can't stand the uselessness of it
viscid swift
it's a time consuming endevour, it's mainly done because it's incredibly cheap to run and save oil
grizzled stream
it's still lower pt/hr but you do get to play longer
i'd imagine low cost t3 clear speed isn't that much faster than 1:1 ht3 grind
forest palm
Taz prolly just can't stand the uselessness of it
if it results in no tangible reward, ya
viscid swift
I mean, a 200 point difference difference per run(assuming help) does add up pretty quickly
forest palm
if you have the means to 1:1 and can just cycle ships out w/ HELP
sour snow
clearing and inevitably farming the drop ship
Should be okay??
viscid swift
saratoga is better than AR
late flame
dang corpse dragging is still a thing
viscid swift
also that will be your main fleet, focus just on that
ebon topaz
Is there a tier list :D
stark quiver
how do i mvp control for york2, give everyone else shite gear?
viscid swift
/tierlist
odd rootBOT
sour snow
also that will be your main fleet, focus just on that
She's on the second fleet welp time to relocate her
viscid swift
how do i mvp control for york2, give everyone else shite gear?
hmmm
forest palm
~~dang corpse dragging is still a thing~~
siren ops says hello
viscid swift
who else are you running with her
ebon topaz
O thx
stark quiver
giulio and random hit cv, undecided yet
viscid swift
what about the vanguard
viscid swift
your Northampton 2 is like 116?
stark quiver
nh 1 , and 110
felix 100
chian 105
they dont have weapons, so wont steal mpv,
ht3
sour snow
viscid swift
quite sure if that livesbut as long as she attacks first of the main fleets that should be guranteed MvP
sour snow
The bricked second fleet i guess
viscid swift
better, now just needs to get levels on some of them
viscid swift
The bricked second fleet i guess
just ignore every other fleet for now
polar lion
Yea need fast load so she can kill stuffs b4 battle ends
stark quiver
quite sure if that livesbut as long as she attacks first of the main fleets tha...
ill give her faster planes then
sour snow
just ignore every other fleet for now
Aight
viscid swift
actually, use Kazan instead of Richelieu
sour snow
Eh?
viscid swift
she's already MLB and higher level
sour snow
Okay i'll swap her out 
hollow gust
Why do you have 2 Saras
viscid swift
ok I should have specified things better in my original recc
viscid swift
Okay i'll swap her out <:kekc:1196512596610785364>
stick to just this one fleet for now until you get all the way to W9
Kazan, Unicorn, Enterprise, Takao, Laffey, Portland
stark quiver
nah
wind hazel
it's just as important to meet timing
grizzled stream
good to have, but you can still work around not having max
wind hazel
if timing doesn't require rld then it's not important, so can't give you any definitive answer
little tree
Thats good my 0 bb rld tech is not a hindrance then
wind hazel
it might be
hollow gust
Takao ?
polar lion
Better hav the tech when u need it then not having
viscid swift
Takao ?
they posted their dock a few days ago and if you look you'll see they have a level 88 MLB takao
hollow gust
grizzled stream
man, takao really carried me when i first started
viscid swift
I mean given the account is from like 2019
normal cedar
is dossier updated along with new sr meta? whats the next ship up due for dossier?
viscid swift
yes, and Kirov META
normal cedar
thanks
stark quiver
kirovM
ionic kraken
is there a way to see which ships are in the build pool currently?
viscid swift
the wiki
stark quiver
ionic kraken
thanks! ❤️
dreamy blade
was looking at the wiki for armor break but musashi isnt listed, does it stack? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Armor_Break
viscid swift
it's not an AB, it's just a debuff
brave trail
what are ideal farming thresholds for this event
stark quiver
up to 55k is good
dreamy blade
usually 55k points for the gold plates milestone, can go more if there are things in the shop you still want
brave trail
thanks
raw ravine
is oleg good to push 12 nad events?
viscid swift
no
raw ravine
yikes
but it can heal itself ;-;
I just pulles san francisco, is she a better option?
viscid swift
but it can heal itself ;-;
no she doesn't
raw ravine
oh wait that may be because of kazan, my bad
viscid swift
and even if she did, a heal does not save bad stats, skills, and barrages
late flame
cope for another unicorn retrofit miracle
hardy citrus
is it possible to set the strategic search so that it can keep on grinding secured areas without me having to tap completion
i notice after every completion of a secured zone i need to click "move onto new zone" or some sort of text
normal cedar
do you use purple bulins to limit break blue ships? Im tired of farming for copies of california and tenessee
stark quiver
is it possible to set the strategic search so that it can keep on grinding secur...
like alternate to other zones or just auto farm one
if the latter, then set strat search to repeat zone
hardy citrus
alternate to other zone
when set the strat search to repeat zone will it keep grinding that one zone without interaction
hardy citrus
eh idk for the stars ig sometimes the exploration progress sars just complete themselves i feel like
ive got a bunch of ap lying around anyways
stark quiver
you can us the ap to repeat farm c5 zone for stuff
hardy citrus
thats whjat imma do
hardy citrus
yes until you run out of ap
its not doing that, am i doing smth wrong?
after finishing a run on a c5 zone it says "lets pick up our loot before we forget" and i need to click it before it loops into another run
or is interaction mandatory here
stark quiver
did you turn on the reduce tb guidence in settings?
late flame
reduce tb guidance in settings
hardy citrus
oh found it
stark quiver
no
icy cave
For the 1200 oil commissions, are those worth doing regularly? I see that it sometimes contains 5-7 cubes
late flame
not worth unless you are really short on play time and bought tons of curry already
honest sequoia
This seems cool
You can do H research only if you have 400++++ cubes
stark quiver
This seems cool
whyre you even focusing pr6
shy walrus
should i buy support pack iv for 30 or 4,960 gems for 40
hollow gust
They really aren't worth unless you are a mega whale
shy walrus
i have money to burn
rustic adder
what in the pack do you really want?
tacit star
uhhh should i get the trade license or the bpass
zinc turret
i have money to burn
well gem is way harder to get so more gem better imo , u can just farm those material in that 30$ pack
hollow gust
- All gem x2
- Monthly pass
- Cruise pass if you like the skin
- Lucky bag if you dont mind rng
tacit star
1. All gem x2
2. Monthly pass
3. Cruise pass if you like the skin
4. Lucky bag...
okthanks
icy cave
Monthly pass is the trade license?
rustic adder
yes
fresh briar
Can I ask?
Is Nevada good because I always see someone using her
shy walrus
well gem is way harder to get so more gem better imo , u can just farm those mat...
mk thanks
rustic adder
which nevada?
fresh briar
My English is not englishing wtf
stark quiver
Can I ask?
Is Nevada good because I always see someone using her
no
rustic adder
Nevada meta? or the normal one
fresh briar
Normal one
rustic adder
yea, not good
fresh briar
How about implacable
rustic adder
very good
fresh briar
Last how about fargo
stark quiver
shes alright
rustic adder
shes averageish i think?
fresh briar
Forgot about this but I think this ship aren't good isn't it? Correct me if in wrong
hollow gust
both are pretty solid ships
rustic adder
recent gold ships are generally useable
spring basin
momo is pretty good she has decent aa and her plants can slow. nana isn't that great but useable .
hollow gust
honestly nana is actually much more relvant then momo
normal cedar
Do players keep rolling for multiple copies of UR ships to save bulins? 
The chances of 2 or 3 copies are pretty decent if you roll all 400 cubes
late flame
pink is always good wdym
hollow gust
Do players keep rolling for multiple copies of UR ships to save bulins? <:ThinkZ...
pulling more then 1 UR is a waste of time
tame jungle
spending 400 cubes every UR event is quite a lot as well
hollow gust
well unless you are a loaded boomer, they dont give a fuck
normal cedar
I see, thanks
Ig if you don't pull all reruns too then you can save urlins pretty easily
hollow gust
you will be net postivie on bulins eventually
tame jungle
azur lane is very much a game of "you're almost always low on [x] until you're not"
stark quiver
youre always high on chips unless youre not
gaunt cedar
hello should i use my elite duplicates for limit break or retirement
tame jungle
limit break good
hollow gust
limitbreak ofc
gaunt cedar
thank you
hollow gust
they stuff all the good tech on the worst ships
rustic adder
Atleast you are not forced to raise dds for good tech
tame jungle
does he know
hollow gust
DD FP tech is by far the most important vanguard tech
rustic adder
Bruh
hollow gust
and they are basically all dogshit
rustic adder
Ive got 40 dds left to max
wind hazel
oh yeah?
rustic adder
What makes dd fp that important? Largest % increase relative to base stats?
hollow gust
it practically doubles the fp on most DDs
fickle hollow
should i craft this? i can +13 it right away
hollow gust
well as long as you dont spend blanks on them its fine
cobalt rapids
kazagumo with doubled fp 
late flame
oops i used 18 blanks
fickle hollow
or UR torps?
slow fox
-# No one recommends saving them for URudder. Sad
hollow gust
getting one of them is nice, UR torp isnt even the best torp,
cobalt rapids
/gearlab
fickle hollow
what would be better on Kazagumo?The UR dd gun or this?
cobalt rapids
this
hollow gust
gold gun or the blue gun
fickle hollow
Thanks for the help guys
silk sphinx
Would you go for trp or hit for vg ships tech?
cobalt rapids
hit and rld and trp last
hallow mountain
whyre you even focusing pr6
Gear
marsh sparrow
do I craft this or save up
cobalt rapids
its cheap and doesnt use high prio mats, u can craft it if ure hurting for dd guns
normal cedar
is this good? there are many variants so Im confused which is good and which isnt
marsh sparrow
great for auto
cobalt rapids
2nd best auto torp
ebon topaz
How to get ship level xp quickly ?
tame jungle
use
alternatively, use exp books (not recommended early on due to them probably being quite hard to come by)
dreamy blade
is this good? there are many variants so Im confused which is good and which isn...
the only better torp is event limited
normal cedar
damn, thanks
dry sorrel
how do i unlock all these fleet tech bonuses with limited dock space? do i just level 3 at the time?
wind hazel
have to suffer and retire non priority tech ships constantly. best to get a comfortable dockspace before heading that route
normal cedar
even for ultra minmaxxing, only bb/cv rld is needed? or does it need you to fleet tech other stuff as well like dd trp etc
wind hazel
well the point of getting tech is to maximize your damage, so you don't really half ass it
dreamy blade
cruiser/dd fp is usually going to be more of a gain than trp anyway
wind hazel
either you forget about tech entirely, or you get all the relevant tech
normal cedar
yes, but I wanted to know how much tech is the bare minimum from gameplay pov
I doubt you need all of it for clearing even the hardest content in the game..?
wind hazel
you can clear with 0 tech
dreamy blade
bare minimum is 0 tech but it just makes the game harder for yourself
gearing cvs in particular
wind hazel
it matters more when you wanna move from 2 shot to 1 shot META
normal cedar
I see, thanks
whole crypt
what was it again, roughly 40k oil for each PR?
simple dove
hello people of gameplay help, i needa bitta help with gameplay, gotta make a fleet and stuff idk
atomic abyss
yes, but I wanted to know how much tech is the bare minimum from gameplay pov
I ...
People have already replied, but I do want to emphasise that only min-maxers actually farm for 120 tech
For the average player, they should get the ships they use to 120
dry sorrel
getting all those ships to 120 would take so long 
honest sequoia
getting all those ships to 120 would take so long <:BiskoSweat:58862971448301977...
AL takes time compared to other gacha games
whole crypt
you need no tech to play, but the more you have the more trivial the game gets, to a certain degree
honest sequoia
atleast theres no RNG in AL except meowficers
wind hazel
but there is...
atomic abyss
Combat damage already has a 0.9-1.1x rng multiplier
hushed sorrel
hitting the target or not hitting also leads to different results
whole crypt
it's not even .9-1.1
boreal wagon
the damage formula adds 0, 1 or 2 to the scaled base damage
whole crypt
rnd(0,1,2) added to weapdmg x coeff x slot eff x stat mult
depending on the actual scaled base damage it's easily just a rounding error in late levels
atomic abyss
Huh
Maybe the formulae was wrong when I looked at it years ago
whole crypt
dmg formula is on wiki and has been roughly this form for at least the past 3-4 years that I can remember
-14k oil/week during PR grind before comms and login stamp
honest sequoia
does opsi reset tmr or the day after tmr
whole crypt
on day change to 1st server time
cobalt rapids
we got about 46h till opsi reset
honest sequoia
so May 1st? (for my timezone)
sharp socket
about tech
most players dont need to bother with it, its just something you do when you have literally nothing else to do and you gotta spend the oil/get coins so you do it in a way that also benefits you by farming tech
whole crypt
most of the world is ahead of server time aren't we
late flame
anyway midnight server time is reset
atomic abyss
dmg formula is on wiki and has been roughly this form for at least the past 3-4 ...
Unfortunately I checked the formulae 6-7 years ago
whole crypt
what's that, UTC-5?
boreal wagon
server time is -7, nomis is -4
whole crypt
US west coast right?
late flame
tbh i sux at timezones
boreal wagon
oh i didnt see the pm
whole crypt
so pretty much the whole world is ahead of server time, or on it
plain saffron
But US is the world
whole crypt
and the majority of it is still ahead of or on that timezone
it's pretty just like Alaska or something that'll be behind
vagrant cobalt
Anyone able to say why im not getting daily missions in ops (Operation Siren) do you need to complete the storyline first?
sharp socket
alaska is pretty i agree
vagrant cobalt
So i needa be over level 92 correct?
cobalt rapids
you need to complete ch4 of opsi
vagrant cobalt
Okay thanks should be close then nearly done with ch3
normal cedar
whats the best strat using strategic search to spend all this ap before reset?
I have unlocked the whole map
atomic abyss
Done all hiddens?
Abyssals?
Strongholds?
If so run a random C5 or C3 node on auto
(save some for daily missions for tomorrow)
normal cedar
There are a few hidden and stronghold left, I'll do those
After that I repeat the same c5 node? Can akashi still appear in that case
atomic abyss
On secured yes
normal cedar
ok, thanks a lot!
atomic abyss
There are a few hidden and stronghold left, I'll do those
After that I repeat th...
Stronghold is high priority
Don't leave it undone!
eternal basalt
Also save some for may 1 dailies, do those, then reset and get NEW dailies
normal cedar
there are lv 128 enemies in the stronghold, can I even do it with 120 ships? this is my first time doing a stronghold
eternal basalt
You just need to fight 6 enemies
normal cedar
ahh nice then , Ill go for the lower ones, thx
tame jungle
no, you need to beat the marked enemies that are walled off...
normal cedar
ig ill try to see if I can win by dodging the lv 128 enemy on manual then 
whole crypt
there are lv 128 enemies in the stronghold, can I even do it with 120 ships? thi...
that's where adapts come in
125 will make things easier but we've been clearing strongholds and abyssals since 120 cap with weaker fleets
just fight everything, all nodes have loot
eternal basalt
For the guards, if you plop a fleet after your fleet, you can simply escape from battle, and be inside (long time since I used that XD)
whole crypt
if adapts maxed with a semi-competent fleet using Unicorn you should cruise strongholds fine except maybe the boss
normal cedar
I have maxed the adapts, but we don't need to beat the boss to clear the stronghold? I thought they were the 'walled enemies'?
eternal basalt
The boss is the last one
whole crypt
should still try regardless, you can have basically unlimited attempts to shave the boss
if one attempt fails after all your fleets thrown at it just go repair in port and restore morale by killing anything in an easier zone
once a day you can also redeploy for free which basically can be used as a free repair
normal cedar
sure, thanks
vocal sandal
ive got enough tech to develop either napoli or nakhimov, which one do i do?
eternal basalt
Napoli if a tank you want, nak if you want dps
vocal sandal
Napoli if a tank you want, nak if you want dps
im not sure of what i want rn, im yet to clear ch11
eternal basalt
Then I suggest green cat
late flame
or do a coin toss
vocal sandal
Then I suggest green cat
alright
vocal sandal
yeah got it. also ive got a ship that has reached max exp, will any additional exp count towards development?
wind hazel
yes, but ideally swap them out for ships that still need leveling
vocal sandal
yes, but ideally swap them out for ships that still need leveling
i dont have any other sardgna or northern parliment ships capable enough to fight yet lol
wind hazel
just use them i guess 
vocal sandal
hmm alright. and i should be farming 11-1 right?
eternal basalt
Or the event
whole crypt
unless they're all 120 just swap out the maxed ships, slower grind but you're not wasting XP
wind hazel
event until you have the desired milestone and item from shop, then try to push to 12-1 if you can
vocal sandal
unless they're all 120 just swap out the maxed ships, slower grind but you're no...
theyre all just mlb
except the one maxed ship i use
whole crypt
then take out the maxed ship and level something else, not like it matters if the XP grind took a few more days
warped acorn
man finally portland retrofit 😔
wind hazel
vocal sandal
then take out the maxed ship and level something else, not like it matters if th...
alright got it
normal cedar
While doing stronghold suddenly a siren appeared and it gave me a notification that a node might be seized, am I supposed to fight them too?
eternal basalt
Yes, that's the 6th battle
whole crypt
just kill everything
eternal basalt
For a low level team?
tawdry halo
Which main gun is better for Sandy?
eternal basalt
Probably higher healing costs than you get from those mooks
wind hazel
i really doubt
tame jungle
any decent fleet recovers HP on the trash mobs
whole crypt
except the mooks are also xp and unicorn should carry you fine
dreamy blade
Which main gun is better for Sandy?
both arent great but left is slightly better
whole crypt
you also have to be pretty far under to be losing any much to trash nodes
tawdry halo
man finally portland retrofit 😔
Should have talk in the thread
I made you a thread for a reason
If you aint asking for anything useful in general then just drop things in #1363442282010771628
tame jungle
what's with the attitude
tawdry halo
both arent great but left is slightly better
Slightly,,,
I think Sandy might need some lil more firepower because she's having too much AA rn 
whole crypt
I get if you're trying to save time by skipping trash nodes but you're weak enough to be significantly losing HP to them you might as do them for XP, if you're picking nodes it means you're watching the screen and can use repair kits between fights
tawdry halo
Yea I think they dont have much difference
dreamy blade
the faster fire rate is better than 5 fp
whole crypt
on sandy if you need to pick between those 2 guns the answer is it doesn't matter
tawdry halo
So do I change Nimi's gun to this and use the high angle gun for Sandy or what?
dreamy blade
purple twin 120 is one of the best poverty dd gun options, give it to sandy
warped acorn
should i learn nelson close engagement skill or no due to general parts spent
wind hazel
learn it
tawdry halo
should i learn nelson close engagement skill or no due to general parts spent
Parts are like farmable
wind hazel
it is what makes nelson good lol
tawdry halo
You will eventually get more
warped acorn
or i should upgrade the yellow steam catapult to lv 10 first (current 9) 🤔
tawdry halo
it is what makes nelson good lol
Real stuff
wind hazel
or i should upgrade the yellow steam catapult to lv 10 first (current 9) 🤔
nelson first
warped acorn
alr
whole crypt
isn't the retrofit skill the thing that bumps the last 30% on her barrage
wind hazel
ye
tawdry halo
isn't the retrofit skill the thing that bumps the last 30% on her barrage
PoV is also a good aux
whole crypt
yeh
tawdry halo
Peak additional skill
whole crypt
granted it's a conditional skill but if you're using Nelson it's definitely more important than a tier or 2 on a catapult, you'll get more plates anyway
sweet schooner
Uhh any tips for chapter 13? Cuz damn I didn’t expect to get obliterated even on manual
tawdry halo
Uhh any tips for chapter 13? Cuz damn I didn’t expect to get obliterated even on...
Hedgehog...
whole crypt
13 no subs
tawdry halo
13 no subs
Oh
whole crypt
Uhh any tips for chapter 13? Cuz damn I didn’t expect to get obliterated even on...
start thread post what you're using now
with ship screens so we know your LB and equipment
wind hazel
sweet schooner
with ship screens so we know your LB and equipment
Oki
astral oar
guys is there any short and easy crash course guide on opsi, i tried playing it several times and i still dont get it
normal cedar
is the strategist opsi boss capable of healing? something's off, it's taking me more time the lower I get her health...
the first time I got her health 100%->70%, while the fifth attempt now only managed to get 35->20%
dreamy blade
have you read its skills
wind hazel
guys is there any short and easy crash course guide on opsi, i tried playing it ...
if story, follow the red [!]
explore the maps, get higher adaptive tunings, explore zones according to your tuning level.
dreamy blade
guys is there any short and easy crash course guide on opsi, i tried playing it ...
opsi basically boils down to "clear every zone then clear all the icons on the map"
and let auto do most of the work
normal cedar
have you read its skills
I can't find any boss named strategist in the opsi wiki page...
dreamy blade
i meant in game
whole crypt
is the strategist opsi boss capable of healing? something's off, it's taking me ...
the boss skills/mods are random
normal cedar
where do I read the skills? I directly go into battle in ths stronghold
wind hazel
disable fleet lock
tame jungle
turn off fleet lock
normal cedar
ok, sure Ill try that
dreamy blade
sounds like this tho
whole crypt
that or use scan mode and tap on the boss node
dreamy blade
the counter is to just do more dmg, it is definitely 1 of the more annoying/difficult skills to run into
chip at it with your weaker fleet(s) first then try to finish it with your strong fleet
normal cedar
bruh
late flame
kill faster
whole crypt
what are your OS fleets like now
normal cedar
single fleet, maryland unicorn enty portland helena laffey all retro all 120
gear is all good too, checked it once here
should I try by removing unicorn?
wind hazel
yes, use another bb or cv
normal cedar
I'll put in 120 pennsylvania then and try
vocal sandal
Which ships do I use for development exp?
normal cedar
yes, use another bb or cv
even putting in pennsylvania doesn't work, it's recovering hp via second skill,
I cant go lower than 10%, it's healing and bringing it above 10 before killing my fleet...
Stalemate 
whole crypt
are you using AP guns on the BBs
dreamy blade
you could try fishing for helena procs as well
normal cedar
mk6 is the only bb gun I have.. idk is it ap?
dreamy blade
it is not
whole crypt
no
dreamy blade
you should have bought a champy gun with protocore as one of the first things there
normal cedar
you should have bought a champy gun with protocore as one of the first things th...
😭 I literally asked here if I should buy it a few weeks ago ,this is what I was told...
dreamy blade
whole crypt
what did you get with your cores
normal cedar
black and white shells
cog arrays
currently at 500 cores...
dreamy blade
these
normal cedar
oh those, I still haven't used them
my bad, ig I can get the gun then
whole crypt
not soon enough
dreamy blade
thankfully you started before the monthly reset
whole crypt
you need more than 1 month for prints to finish 1 copy
not that starting 3 weeks ago would have helped you
eh, he's probably losing this stronghold regardless
move on and clear other stuff first
dreamy blade
whole crypt
you can only buy 20 prints a month, you need 2 months to finish 1 copy
dreamy blade
not sure if this accounts for the gear lab update since tenrai/bf109 are there now
whole crypt
he's stuck for this one, just move on for now
yes because lab priorities are for lab exclusive gear, given both protocores and lab mats are limited
normal cedar
I see, so I shouldn't get anything from the shop?
whole crypt
the "free" protocores you get out of cruise and catchup should be enough to at least fetch you some champagne guns and BFGs
dreamy blade
no, definitely buy the 20 "series 3" prints
whole crypt
I see, so I shouldn't get anything from the shop?
buy PR3 prints, you'll need to do this across 2 months to get enough prints for a gun
ideally you'll need to buy 50 across 3 months for 2 copies
honest sequoia
How do u guys even know the time duration to get a certain amount of print just for that one gun 
whole crypt
How do u guys even know the time duration to get a certain amount of print just ...
because proto shop is 20/month
dreamy blade
it's the same for all gold prints from the protocore shop
normal cedar
alright, thanks Ill buy it and move on to another stronghold...
whole crypt
and basically all gold research gear are 25 prints a pop, except trashcan
whole crypt
alright, thanks Ill buy it and move on to another stronghold...
if you manage to get better levels and/or gear somehow in the next day you can still come back to try to kill the boss again
gaunt cedar
is de zeven even good ship or shoild i try to get urs from heavy build
whole crypt
d7p is a good ship and you should never try to pull for perm URs
gaunt cedar
why not
whole crypt
because most of them are aged and you can get them for free with perm pity building other shit
dreamy blade
you want to save your cubes for limited UR banners, the perm URs arent going anywhere
gaunt cedar
ok
whole crypt
pulling an UR now also doesn't help you much if you can't LB it
gaunt cedar
um whats permanent and limited banners though im new and i need more ships in front
gaunt cedar
damn thanks
tawdry halo
Should I change the gun for Helena
whole crypt
the gun she's using now is the best poverty gun
tawdry halo
Oh alr
normal cedar
if you manage to get better levels and/or gear somehow in the next day you can s...
nevermind, I beat the boss by rng with a sliver of health left
btw how did you know the siren boss is weak to ap?
whole crypt
conductor is the CV type, she has medium armour
warped acorn
who should i set research focus catchup to
whole crypt
a research ship from PR4+ you can dev and use
if not then a PR1-3 ship you've completed up to dev30 to convert for proto cores
rugged quiver
hihi im a new player, this chat have a guide to start well in game?
whole crypt
if not just ignore catchup for now because it's limited
whole crypt
it isn't but maybe you're better leveled/geared/LBd now
rugged quiver
<https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/>
ty
whole crypt
6-2 and 6-3 may have felt harder because bad map layout might have made you do more fights than you had to
warped acorn
interesting
fresh briar
Normal Nagato
or
Meta Nagato
which is better
whole crypt
depends but I don't really recommend using either
without context if you really just want to use Nagato then META will generally be stronger
warped acorn
this bar will still fill up even those ships/planes manage to die before hitting them? like infront of them
whole crypt
no, if you saw the gauge go up it means the planes have hit
warped acorn
no, if you saw the gauge go up it means the planes have hit
oh alr, guess the hp bar dont have changes prob cuz its low dmg
soft raft
this bar will still fill up even those ships/planes manage to die before hitting...
/detection
odd rootBOT
warped acorn
/detection
crossing the detection line means even they didnt do dmg to cv?
split gazelle
Are these useless?
soft raft
Are these useless?
these are the better ones from there
The others are various ranges of poverty gear
fresh briar
E
late flame
about the only one that's bad is the pom pom AA gun
wind hazel
even that is better than any purple AA gun
soft raft
crossing the detection line means even they didnt do dmg to cv?
there is still crash damage planes will do if they get past that line
suicide boats also explode
fresh briar
Question
How I can get those unique ones like Ur or other strong guns
warped acorn
there is still crash damage planes will do if they get past that line
suicide bo...
oh, thats interesting
thanks man
soft raft
Question
How I can get those unique ones like Ur or other strong guns
depending on the specific UR Gear in question, UR events (Not always), research, or gear lab
And fun fact: You need less UR Gear than you'd think
on average having 2-3 of the same UR Gear is decent enough for most use cases, any further than that is mainly a luxury
late flame
rainbow beehive when
hardy creek
Guys I have a question on team building, I've been playing azur lane for a week now and want to ask what team comp I should invest in currently. Right now I'm running Shinano, Arkhangelsk , repulse, Portland, Trieste and Z23.
whole crypt
Question
How I can get those unique ones like Ur or other strong guns
research, OS (gear lab)
warped acorn
1 week with that much bulins dang bro
soft raft
Guys I have a question on team building, I've been playing azur lane for a week ...
Give this a read too
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
whole crypt
it's actually the same thing rice just reformatted it for tier list page layout
soft raft
Basically the fleet example in that link but Hood instead of Pennsylvania
fresh briar
depending on the specific UR Gear in question, UR events (Not always), research,...
oh Jesus Christ
whole crypt
top end gear is a mid to lategame thing, don't worry about it
fresh briar
Who have the link for gear guide I'm so stupid
fresh briar
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
Maraming Salamat Kaibigan
feral salmon
any recommend for fast OS clear mob fleet? - I consider Alsace - Unicorn - Shimakaze and Unzen, but not sure about last 1 backline and frontline
late flame
just add another cv + a tank
hardy creek
<https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/>
So, what I understand from this is you can run any recent ships alongside unicorn and Portland, and use Bullins on ships that you use to max lb them right?
whole crypt
I wouldn't recommend "any recent ships", that said the new golds from the last 2 new events (not frostfall) are fairly decent
soft raft
Hood/Unicorn/Free slot Portland/Z23/Helena
Go with that
hardy creek
I wouldn't recommend "any recent ships", that said the new golds from the last 2...
Ah alright, that said, I shouldn't be using shinano on my team right? Since she'll take a long time to max lb?
fresh briar
Last question
Should I get
Agir,Neptune and the bocchi one (forgot her name but it starts letter k)
soft raft
Yes, eh, and yes (but lower priority) respectively
And you're thinking of Kearsarge with that last one
forest palm
wouldn't bother with Kears unless you have the ships to utilize her tbh
warped acorn
is my fleet still ok currently
hardy creek
Hood/Unicorn/Free slot Portland/Z23/Helena
Go with that
Can I sub in z23 and Helena for evertsen and provincien once I get them to max lb?
soft raft
Can I sub in z23 and Helena for evertsen and provincien once I get them to max l...
As in replace Z23 and Helena with them?
Idk how good the new ships are, but I wouldn't do that because you need to raise Z23 for rookie missions and Helena's use case as a debuffer is pretty unique
weary gust
Evertsen is just tech fodder, DeSeven might? be better than Z23 but see above.
soft raft
You also need to raise Portland for rookie missions, along with her being the best budget tank in the game
fresh briar
And you're thinking of Kearsarge with that last one
Oh yeah kearsarge
weary gust
I know DeSeven is very good for AA but AA isn't a concern until w13, which is when you'd have a second fleet anyways.
honest sequoia
is bf109 usable on light armor besides HVAR?
weary gust
Best rocket fighter for light for if you don't have HVARs.
hardy creek
As in replace Z23 and Helena with them?
Idk how good the new ships are, but I w...
Ah alright, so z23, Helena and Portland for Vanguard, Unicorn for main. Also, should I put Nevada meta and Kazan alongside unicorn? I can max lb her once I finish the missions and Kazan seems recent.
soft raft
Hood (in the flagship position) with Unicorn as well
Then as for the remaining backline slot, just go for whatever ig
Tho if you can get Enterprise, she would instantly take that spot
hardy creek
Ah alright, thanks!
warped acorn
should i get chap augment (15 stone) once i can? or just wait for better ones
whole crypt
generic augments don't add much
unique augments aren't on all ships and some are meh
if you're not sure just don't craft any
warped acorn
alr then ima wait ig
hardy creek
Wait can Kazan drop from one of the event stages?
cobalt rapids
all shop ships ( except URs ) do
hardy creek
Ah alright, so that means I can get her from any of the normal event stages if I'm lucky right? Or there's specific stage I have to farm?
weary gust
Ah alright, so that means I can get her from any of the normal event stages if I...
HT3 and SP only
hardy creek
Ah, I guess I'll be buying her from the shop then, I don't think I'll be clearing ht3 before the event ends...
weary gust
It's a low chance to drop. Going the entire event without the map drop ship dropping despite getting 50k+ points (farming the drop stage) is not uncommon. The recommended strategy is to hang onto at least 8k points to buy the ship from the shop if you don't get the drop by the time the event ends.
gaunt cedar
is prinz heinrich good i got her yesterday and spent 2 gold bullins on her should i just restart i havent gotten very far yet 
gaunt cedar
we learn from our mistakes
normal cedar
ig you can use heinrich as a early tank
mlb tech points for ironblood are good too
normal cedar
true, just no need to reset the game tho, would've mlb'ed heinrich anyways for tech later..
late flame
unlike most gachas there is no point to re-roll / restart in azur lane since whatever mistakes (except gems) can be fixed with time
marsh sparrow
does the DDG use aa romba
late flame
sure roomba can work on ddgs
little tree
When in doubt roomba on vanguards
normal cedar
I'll lose points if I buy oil from event shop and then don't use it to farm event right? How recommended is that, since I'm farming 11-2 to unlock anchorage
soft raft
if you can farm the oil cap event maps then it's pretty worth it
also why W11 specifically?
have you just not unlocked W12?
normal cedar
I already got 2 kazan copies thr drop and got the dr bp and cog arrays
I have unlocked W12, I'm not pushing past 11-2 cause I need 1 more copy of california to unlock anchorage
But I'm out of oil so I was wondering whether to exchange for oil in event shop to farm more
soft raft
have you already limit broken all of your other USS Ships yet?
normal cedar
yea, im at 826 points
also hit 120 on all main fleet uss ships like maryland enty
soft raft
ah
then sure ig
woven star
As for me oil from event shop more important if you want invest in event point more oil.
Get event progress with event points. Buy oil from event shop go further
normal cedar
yea, that's why I'm asking
since I'll be breaking that loop by instead putting that oil in campaign
I think the only thing to get from shop is pr prints now, points for which I'll get by doing sp anyways
anyways thanks, I think I'll do it
woven star
Hood (in the flagship position) with Unicorn as well
Then as for the remaining b...
Idk Kazan looks better than Hood for now. Better tech, better stats
soft raft
^
woven star
Even 100% barrage
hollow gust
So why compare tech and stats 
soft raft
but how good is Kazan's barrage numbers compared to Hood's
woven star
Need to check. Yes
hollow gust
Eh CN wiki hasn't posted yet
hardy creek
Is there any use for duplicates of a ship once you max lb it?
soft raft
either way, prob wouldnt really rec Kazan over Hood either
sure Kazan can technically do more things than Hood, but:
- Her Musashi-esque tanking is limited time as a bonus effect as part of her timed barrage (And is barely relevant in any content you'd be likely to use her in)
- 5-10% heal sounds nice on paper but it's also timed and it only applies to the lowest HP Ship (And the ship needs to be below half HP for the 10% heal), which once again is barely relevant in any content you'd be likely to use her in
marsh sparrow
Is there any use for duplicates of a ship once you max lb it?
not at all,retire it for medal
soft raft
Is there any use for duplicates of a ship once you max lb it?
there's no pratical justification
stark quiver
Is there any use for duplicates of a ship once you max lb it?
fleet power
hardy creek
Ah alright, I've seen some rare units changing rarity to elite, is that what happens when they have max retrofit?
soft raft
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine
moment
soft raft
Ah alright, I've seen some rare units changing rarity to elite, is that what hap...
modernization node bumps a ship up by a rarity yes
left cedar
i just delivery the numbers, i'm not here to defend nothing
hardy creek
Another question, will enterprise be sold on the monthly medal shop eventually?
left cedar
techinically close numbers as well ... 900*2 + 1600
soft raft
Another question, will enterprise be sold on the monthly medal shop eventually?
you just gotta pray to RNGesus that you get CVs as a option in your medal shop on monthly refresh and boom Enterprise will be there
left cedar
btw, on the end, Hood and Kazan are just placeholders, both it will work fine till W12 easylçy where u will farm for FdG or to get gold to get ur UR BB to 120+
wind hazel
in the end, use whichever you can MLB earlier
left cedar
so, if a begginer for idk reason havce 4 Gold Bullins around, Kazan and Hood in dock 0LB just waifu and go without fear
wind hazel
personally i would choose kazan cause cheaper
left cedar
NO BIAS here 
Kazan
btw, i just notice, that Kazan are a bit bigger dmg than Hood barrage, and equal to all armors, wut isnt relevant in the end cuz both it will do well more than enough to beat the W12 or even W13 ..
sweet delta
personally i would choose kazan cause better
warped acorn
ppl normally choose meowofficers by checking talent?
left cedar
combination of ideal to X Hull + Talents
warped acorn
what abt skill 🤔 or what they prioritize checking
left cedar
EX: Oscar with Flames and BB FP + BB FP/HP
here a guide of meowfficers
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide
for the times i notice u here, u are a begginer, dont focus on Meowfficers rightnow ... this thing are for end gamers, but try to get gud initial meowfficers, just dont dive into refresh
warped acorn
here a guide of meowfficers
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGu...
alr then... just trying to use one that wont be a waste due to that function doing nothing in my fleet...
normal cedar
research unlock timer is 6 days? or 7
woven star
As for me Kazan isn't worse choice at this moment:
+100 Fp, less 15 rld, 100% barrage without any aug investment, standard bbs tech
Hood:
100% barrage with aug, + 100 crystals as a part of collection reward
So depends on choice
left cedar
for PR ships are 7 days, but seens like 6, cuz works like start at monday, on sunday start new stage
left cedar
Can anyone give me advice on who to MLB next?
where u are in the game, wut ships u have ... make a thread with ur ships
normal cedar
for PR ships are 7 days, but seens like 6, cuz works like start at monday, on su...
I see, thanks
woven star
Kekw. Kazan barrage has 40% slow for 4 sec. Joking number but present
spare plinth
Yup yup! Currently somewhere in chapter 9, though the campaign isn't really a big driving point for me these days. Alsace would be a main choice, I just generally don't use her. Avoiding Shima and shinano since I can get pity pulls with them through the build pool. Raffy I had a second copy of hence her first limit break
Not really a bad choice I'd wager. Just wanted some thoughts
left cedar
first, stop to spread equals MLB around
that said, Alsase, Rumy, Soy and Musa are gud options to MLB
with that said, new UR close so hold of a bit and ask after CN Anny UR
viscid swift
the more pressing issue would be to push to W12 asap
left cedar
also Shin is ur Priority in UR perma pool, get her till u MLB ur Shin
spare plinth
Copy that. And thanks for the advice on that crew. And yeah the MLB arent spread around, I do full limit breaks hence the saved bulins
If anyone is partial, it's because of copies
spare plinth
the more pressing issue would be to push to W12 asap
Yeaaaah. I should continue the main campaign at some point. I mostly do dailies these days or events
Oh God another UR you say...
left cedar
kinda i can understood since i dont have much time nowadays to keep playing, but still progress to W12 is really a huge diff in ur game, so make a effort to do it, it will help u with gold farm, and acelerate ur progress in several things, like PR Farm, Gear Enhances, gold to PR Enhance etc...
left cedar
probally around mid may something like 15 or 22
viscid swift
non zero chance of it being another 2
woven star
Heh, expecting some vanguard ships. But not sure
spare plinth
I just coughed blood at that thought. Oh lawd. I'm still recovering cubes from the past few events
spare plinth
A positive
left cedar
i just expect not be a 4th UR DD ... we already get enough UR of all HUlls, except CLs ...
spare plinth
kinda i can understood since i dont have much time nowadays to keep playing, but...
Speaking of W12, is there a specific farming level in that chapter?
viscid swift
12-1
marsh sparrow
either 12-1 / 12-4
rustic adder
12-1 or 12-4
spare plinth
Ha. Perfect. Thank you
viscid swift
I am not a 12-4 believer anymore
left cedar
not much diff between 12-1 or 12-4, a lil diff for XP in -1 and gold for -4
late flame
12-1 generally more exp and smaller map if levelling submarines as well
12-4 has a bit more gold iirc
left cedar
i'm always in favor of 12-1, cuz XP diff is a bit better, Cog chips are better and gold diff are small in flavor of this 2
normal cedar
Can I skip fdg to do brest first? I finished anchorage tech points and also have ffnf ships like louis and bearn
Unlocking her would be easier than ib tech points for me
late flame
skipping fdg smh
woven star
Fdg good mob damage dealer. So depend on ur main fleet and what you have else
normal cedar
I don't have anything, I started in march...
woven star
And brest not coinable, so dev much longer
normal cedar
but you can use her as tank at lower dev right
woven star
And PR5? Not best research
normal cedar
im doing focus 5 cuz ender told me....
normal cedar
dev 25 hard, can dev 20
soft raft
im doing focus 5 cuz ender told me....
pretty sure he meant as in the researches
not the actual development (Cuz you can coin PR2)
woven star
It's near 300 prints. Sorry don't remember
normal cedar
oh yea, catchup ive already done for fdg and anchorage
so im doing brest catchup now...
ivory pawn
333 prints.
woven star
As for me get DR ship which you can coin it and slowly develop/research/build as you need else
normal cedar
I see.. thanks
woven star
dev 25 hard, can dev 20
25 more appreciated for Brest as tank. More hp
spare plinth
Do we know where Raffelo sits in the meta?
woven star
Behind Musashi?
honest stirrup
Do we know where Raffelo sits in the meta?
One of the best mobbers as far as I've seen, but might not be better than Musachi
spare plinth
Cool cool! Good to know.
woven star
I wish new UR vanguard will be with AA gun in first slot to brake Raff skill rules
soft raft
what
normal cedar
25 more appreciated for Brest as tank. More hp
should I get the ur blueprints from medal shop as future investment then? it's 100 medals for 5 bp
I have 50 general bp now, and 48 brest bp (16 from catchup)
I assume I will have to use those general bp on non coinable ships like her anyways
hollow gust
Raffy Fritz w15 
woven star
should I get the ur blueprints from medal shop as future investment then? it's 1...
Medal more about bulins and ssr packs. Unless you have over 500-1000 medals and don't know what to buy else
normal cedar
I see, thanks, Ill save them for next month's cores and ssr then
woven star
My bad
hollow gust
What's the best ironblood healer these days
whole crypt
does Jade count
marsh sparrow
why do you need IB healer at the first point
woven star
I see, thanks, Ill save them for next month's cores and ssr then
Usually I spend near 300-380 for gold bulins, cores and maybe some pack. Other overcapacity prints and something else. But it's depends on medal income per month
And cores more important from that all imho
2 month and 3 ur bulins instead of 2.5
normal cedar
i mean i already got 2 gold bulins, 5 elite bulins and core this month , still have over 100 medals
so I think my medal/month count is pretty decent, but tbh 5 prints wouldnt make a difference, its like a drop in the ocean
marsh sparrow
with the upcoming CN anniv,you prob will retire ships frequently at that time
woven star
what
I even tried Ting An in a tank slot with Raff unfortunately seaplanes didn't count as first slot gun 
so no black paint on planes 
Just some cooking with Raff 
hollow gust
Just use Plymouth
woven star
Just use Plymouth
idea was to trigger this skill with unusual gun like AA or something else. Ting has seaplanes in first slot so that was a choice first
hollow gust
woven star
as far as I know no ships in vanguard with unusual guns in first slot except TingAn
soft raft
note that it would have to actually hit a enemy for the effect to proc
Seaplanes also have like a single bomb
woven star
and under unusual I meant AA
woven star
note that it would have to actually hit a enemy for the effect to proc
Seaplane...
yeah, I thought about that after with no results
hollow gust
Try rikka
woven star
good thing I found WA map with only planes there to test some my weird ideas in a future
interesting ship, but don't have it. maybe when rerun will be get her
hollow gust
Rikka won't ever rerun
woven star
and I think it's wont work, cos technically AA slot will be third anyway. but don't know truth until test it
white agate
Rikka won't ever rerun
can always rename a similar ship to rikka if they are that desperate
hushed delta
what does Oleg "inventions" skill actually do? anyone knows?
boreal wagon
it picks randomly between 4 effects, 3 of which are barrages and 1 healls all vanguard ships
hushed delta
oh so nothing crazy, thx
wind hazel
yes they are all very sane
hushed delta
xd I meant nothing "crazy op"
little tree
Need vanguard version of vestal 
wind hazel
These are the current units I have
viscid swift
These are the current units I have
might wanna give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
hardy creek
Is it worth it to spend 300 gems to get another slot here early game?
wind hazel
3rd slot, then start expanding the dorm until you can buy second floor, and you will get 3+3 slot altogether
hardy creek
Ah alright, also what other resources are worth spending gems on?
normal cedar
dock space
wind hazel
dockspace after all of these are done
hushed sorrel
mostly dock slots, since recycling doesnt feel good :P
there is a bot command for a full list of recommends /gems
boreal wagon
I even tried Ting An in a tank slot with Raff<:EssexWheeze:1113921620277461033> ...
im not sure if your goal is to find a way to apply black paint to the actual enemy planes or just weird weapons that apply black paint to actual enemies
the former is impossible in general, the latter works for seaplanes and will never work for aa guns (as they only hit planes)
soft raft
and there's no ship that has AA guns as a option for the first gun mount
normal cedar
you can use bouquet and toolkit together without affecting their effect right? on the same ship
wind hazel
ye
normal cedar
VH Armor Plating is good for tanks? who do you use it on
wind hazel
never used it once in my entire life
atomic abyss
VH Armor Plating is good for tanks? who do you use it on
well, most tanks cant even use it
only CBs can
the biggest issue being it costs core data
wind hazel
good on azuma i guess? lol
atomic abyss
it's actually good on most if not all CBs lol
wind hazel
really
atomic abyss
in most cases, converting from med to heavy is beneficial, yes
since the primary threat is usually, shells
not torps or bombs
in the maps where torps are the threat well... they're mainly a threat on mobs more anyways
at that point a toolbox would benefit more due to the repetitive battles
the thing is
atomic abyss
the biggest issue being it costs core data
this
and that plane ordinance and torps are the primary threat in the hardest map bosses
and as im sure a certain someone would say
"plymouth is enough as a tank for harbi"
normal cedar
are large cruisers ca or cb
atomic abyss
usually making stuff tankier is overkill for players that reach end game
CA is heavy cruiser
CB is large cruiser
normal cedar
so ig for tanks like agir or brest, it is better to have 2 hp aux like toolkit and vh armor rather than eva aux? since their eva is low
atomic abyss
what no
wind hazel
more reason to use eva
atomic abyss
compensate for the stat they lack
thats why DD want HP
CA/CB want eva
CL, want both
normal cedar
ohh I see
so ig rudder and toolkit/bouquet will be normal for CA/CB mobs and maybe can replace toolkit with vh armor for boss
thanks, I kinda understood the mechanics now
normal cedar
I wont get it, sure but you said it's good on most cb.. when do we use it then
atomic abyss
good doesnt mean best
the fact is, while it's better in most content, it's worse in content where its actually hard
look at the chart above
brest was the original best pick for w15 mob tank
in most other cases, she would have 23% more eHP with the VH
forest palm
VH is just a novelty at this point
normal cedar
ohh yes, I see it now damn
atomic abyss
you can see the same for kron and guam too, though not as extreme
(on a side note, bayard what the fuck)
normal cedar
why does that happen 
armor type doesnt seem like a factor
atomic abyss
it is
atomic abyss
in the maps where torps are the threat well... they're mainly a threat on mobs m...
^
atomic abyss
and that plane ordinance and torps are the primary threat in the hardest map bos...
^
planes and torps do more to heavy armour than they do med armour
heavy armour tanks shells better instead
normal cedar
does the game ever tell you any of this?? how do you know all this stuff?
atomic abyss
not explicitly
but if you look at your own gear details, you can see their armour modifiers
normal cedar
no I mean enemy info like planes do more heavy and heavy tanks shells better
is it in gear details too
atomic abyss
the logic that applies to our gear, also applies to their damage sources
with the exception of the 3 rocket fighters and 1 divebomber
all planes do more to heavy and least to light
eg here is helldiver
whereas for guns, the logic is usually the opposite
(campaign BBs dont fire AP shells, only event ones do)
and all DD/CL guns follow the same logic as BB HE guns
even for CAs/BBs that fire normal ammo, they usually favour med
that said, how do we know what are the primary threats in a given battle? not much way than actually observing the battle
normal cedar
I see, I understand it now...
Are sirens exceptions? Since their planes and stuff look unique, not like anything we have
atomic abyss
sirens use AP shells more, so that's one thing
plane threat is non existent in opsi
though there is the concern of torps still
and barrages may have weird multipliers
normal cedar
thanks a lot for explaining it to me, I didn't know most of this info till now since I was using the same fleet..
I've saved all the stuff you sent so I can refer to it
atomic abyss
to go back to the original discussion
VH is not a bad gear
it's just usually worse in actually challenging content
normal cedar
Just a last question, who's the new pick for w15 now? Since you said brest was the original pick
normal cedar
so the best aa tank, I see
atomic abyss
laffey 2 needs to be mentioned too, like 2-3 places down
and eld retro, is still much better than brest AA wise despite being nowhere close to the top
normal cedar
all the event shop urs till now have been really op ...
atomic abyss
mogador isnt as overwhelming
fact is they had to "fix" her post release to stop her from becoming the worst UR in the game
tacit star
iis kazan good?
atomic abyss
even after the fix, she isnt "overpowered" in the same way z52 and laffey 2 are
atomic abyss
iis kazan good?
kazan is a good gold BB that heals
she does not hold a candle to URs of course
normal cedar
what does the 3 STD (ABS) column mean in the ehp chart?
atomic abyss
tldr - good by gold standards, irrelevant by UR standards
atomic abyss
what does the 3 STD (ABS) column mean in the ehp chart?
3 standard deviation (absolute)
tacit star
kazan is a good gold BB that heals
she does not hold a candle to URs of course
oh that cool
atomic abyss
in other words, higher STD, means more rng involved
it is usually higher on characters reliant on evasion stat/buffs
which is why the DDs have it worse
normal cedar
right, thanks a lot again
atomic abyss
(to be clear, STD here does not stand for sexually transmitted diseases)
little tree
Neptune is good for w15 
little tree
The chart makes it look like she is good
little tree
Is it that bad I thought ut was avg
atomic abyss
like
little tree
Oh wow it's bad
atomic abyss
"what do you mean hood's AA is comparable to a CL, who are usually the best at AA"
to answer your question seriously though
Yat Sen is the one that falls into the category of good for w15
little tree
*Yat Sen* is the one that falls into the category of good for w15
Do you need the other Chinese ships for her to be good or can she be good solo
atomic abyss
Do you need the other Chinese ships for her to be good or can she be good solo
she needs a CN ship or she's super frail - usually the option is harbin
atomic abyss
she needs a CN ship or she's super frail - usually the option is harbin
When the battle starts, if there are other Dragon Empery ships in your fleet: decreases your Yat Sen's, Ning Hai's, and Ping Hai's DMG taken by 20.0%, increases their Evasion Rate by 30.0%, and increases your Dragon Empery ships' DMG dealt by 5.0%.
little tree
crimson glacier
worse than a DD 🙂
sweet delta
Yat sandy ning
glass quest
I can't get through the last out of the three bosses in W15-4, what do I have to keep an eye on? My fleet (Amagi (CV), Alsace, Yorktown II, Brest, San Diego (Retrofit), Plymouth) is killed half-way through the boss battle when Zuikaku is around half-life
15-4
weary oar
when enhancing stats, is there a way to make the fill option include higher rarity units or only grey?
ivory pawn
Only grey. Better to retire higher rarity anyways.
dusky cloak
Best sub fleets I can make?? Thinking Alba, Archer, Magg for Sub 1, idk what to do for a sub 2 fleet tho
viscid swift
you don't need 2 sub fleets, ever
dusky cloak
okay thank you, so then is what I said the best option rn
viscid swift
the first fleet you listed
forest palm
gaunt cedar
are the 8 hour commissions worth to do before bed with these oil costs
atomic abyss
are the 8 hour commissions worth to do before bed with these oil costs
no unless you have far too much oil
forest palm
8 hour coms and 10 hour coms are a different thing
though some Urgent coms cost oil and it's a very small amount
eternal basalt
are the 8 hour commissions worth to do before bed with these oil costs
~~In Europe these are wake-up missions 
~~
forest palm
are the 8 hour commissions worth to do before bed with these oil costs
if you're talking about the coms that don't cost over 1k oil, take them before bed
gaunt cedar
ok
spiral fjord
How worth is Yuudachi's retrofit?
soft raft
a bit less worth it than before but it's not Warspite retro levels of tragic
hollow gust
Not really these days , especially if you have to buy the item
versed pebble
Event > Story clearing right? At least till I clear the shop
soft raft
Event > Story until you get everything you want from the shop yes
versed pebble
Event > Story until you get everything you want from the shop yes
What should I get from shop, priority wise? Returning player, haven't played since... formidable event, even that was sporadic
soft raft
the priority has been the same like usual for the most part
Shop gear (If there is one) > The shop SR > any items you need
Reruns have build tickets in the shop as well (tho they run for only 1 week instead of 2)
And there's been UR events with a 2nd UR in the shop alongside the Shop SR but that's a whole different thing
mild sail
Which research gear I should focus on
I FS5 most past season PR ships, dev30 season 7 ships (still haven't got enough for FS5)
versed pebble
Help with Fleet Building for OpSci / Ch 12 and 13 ideas
mild sail
I guessing it is a split between Tenrai and LA-9?
Because the 457mm can be craft
eternal basalt
Finish the ships you are part-way with now, July will see PR8.
And prepare for FS5 of the 7 ships around that time
viscid swift
I guessing it is a split between Tenrai and LA-9?
Because the 457mm can be craf...
you know thw Tenrai can be crafted in the lab as well right?
anyway, stay in Pr7 for more La-9s until PR8 rolls around
slow fox
CL, want both
Many CL also want EVA only. CL are generally more CA-like than DD-like, because DD stats are so fucked.
This is especially true as of recent, with CA EVAcreep and CL HPcreep.
eager marsh
Can vanguard out DPS main fleet?