gameplay-help

[slow fox]

Can you add sorting by ingame ID option? So that it matches the game sort and allows easy back-and-forth

[wind hazel]

you have 1 month

[boreal wagon]

give me like 10 mins

[slow fox]

MUTSUKISTARE

[paper walrus]

[left cedar]

i trully expected u be a tryharder like several of veterans here

[normal cedar]

oh lord, does this mean if you didn't finish the newcomer mission then your reward is lost?

[boreal wagon]

okay nvm i might need more than 10

[normal cedar]

I mean the research ones

[slow fox]

I give off that impression. But no. I am a mere calculator that the veterans pass around. 🙏

I try hard to spread eHP gospel if that counts

[dreamy blade]

i accepted the church of mebot and put rudder on all my backliners

[frozen solstice]

Why would I leave Howe, Warsprite, Victorius, Janus and illustration at the dock?

[worldly cairn]

which one is better AA in W15 shimanto or de zeven?

[frozen solstice]

'Cause I'm thinking of sending them into retirement

[honest sequoia]

all of them are retireable if u have better BBs

[wind hazel]

howe warspite give good tech

illustrious is decent w15 support if you don't have better

[honest sequoia]

just dont retire them for medals

[wind hazel]

-# janus is cute

[boreal wagon]

this will be a thing in like ~5 mins (its a toggle above the sort options), but keep in mind my tracker has no way of knowing what ships are in a fleet so those wont line up unless u empty all your fleets
-# i also don't guarantee that it will line up 100% of the time but it probably will

[frozen solstice]

Why

[honest sequoia]

^

[frozen solstice]

Enterprise, Aqualia, Joffre

[wind hazel]

they are all crap

[honest sequoia]

why even retire used SR ships for medals??
just keep them
unless u got extra copy or smth then sure

[whole crypt]

generally avoid retiring ships that can be hard to get again, you may eventually want to level for tech

[frozen solstice]

What

[whole crypt]

those 3 carriers are not good for the ch15 support fleet

[wind hazel]

w15 support fleet is not your main fleets

[atomic abyss]

Support fleet carriers only deploy their fighters

And nothing else

No skills, no other form of dmg

[frozen solstice]

To have a free spot? Plus I don't like British ships very much

[atomic abyss]

So naturally you'd want carriers that have more fighters

[honest sequoia]

then upgrade your dock slot

[slow fox]

Mondai Nai. Secretary selection dock is fleet-agnostic

[whole crypt]

if you need space buy more

[wind hazel]

we gave you the reason not to retire some of them, but sounds like you already made up your mind. why bother asking

[honest sequoia]

and again
this

[frozen solstice]

How can I do it

[whole crypt]

you spend your gems to buy more slots

unless you already spent them buying things you shouldn't have

[frozen solstice]

If I'm 145 I won't do anything

[whole crypt]

145 what? ships?

[frozen solstice]

Enterprise is destroying nicely as I see it

[frozen solstice]

Gems

[wind hazel]

you aren't even there yet.....

[honest sequoia]

Bro thats not what he meant

[wind hazel]

and enterprise isn't destroying anything in w15

[honest sequoia]

Air support fleet is NOT your main surface fleet

[whole crypt]

we're talking about a mechanic that's only in ch15, you simply have no idea what else lies ahead for you in the game

[whole crypt]

ok so you don't lack the space

if you want to drop the HMS ships for medals that's up to you, again I've already said keep ships that will be hard to get again because you may want them again at some point for tech, or a niche you previously weren't aware of

[frozen solstice]

I tried to do some siren surgery, that was a mistake

[honest sequoia]

[whole crypt]

I suspect he's using some translator that's getting all sorts of funny results

[warped acorn]

lmao

[whole crypt]

but if you're having trouble with operation siren you really just have no real idea what you're doing

[wind hazel]

💀

[whole crypt]

that or you need more time for levels and gear

[frozen solstice]

I am very poor at English

[paper walrus]

is fs important for anchorage

[honest sequoia]

its coinable so why not

[undone plover]

not very crucial but no reason not to do it when u can

[frozen solstice]

I use it to support myself

[whole crypt]

understandable, just in case there's anything lost in translation

[paper walrus]

im gonna do it for all of them at some point im just thinking in what order i should do it

[whole crypt]

FS in general is going to be lower priority than raising another ship first, assuming you will use that other ship

[frozen solstice]

However, I have contempt for HMS, but I will leave howe, Janus, illustration. But Victorius and warsprite will retire

[whole crypt]

looks like you've already decided so just do what you want I guess

[honest sequoia]

retiring warspite pains me

[whole crypt]

that's a you problem

[tame orchid]

Bruh thats a free UR

[frozen solstice]

There is a hell of a way to develop it and it is not better but at the same power as Howe

[whole crypt]

that's been powercrept to hell

[honest sequoia]

shes doing just fine
she outdmg my musashi with +13 yamato gun

[tame solar]

She's outclassed even by SSRs though

[whole crypt]

look if you want to continue this discussion bring it to #al-general

[tame orchid]

I mean does this guy have smth better?

[tame solar]

I don't think he's in position to raise her

[tame orchid]

Fair

[whole crypt]

guy doesn't need Howe or Warspite in particular and Warspite particularly not worth the cost

it's just he has no real reason to ditch them now besides not wanting them

[tame solar]

Howe is fine for bossing

[whole crypt]

this is not in reference of what those ships are good for, he just doesn't really need them now

[frozen solstice]

If I wanted I could get New Jersey or Vangroud

[whole crypt]

if you can't limit break them they're also useless

[frozen solstice]

I have 190 cubes and less than 70 are left to replace

[whole crypt]

don't waste cubes when there's a UR banner coming in about a month

actually just don't waste cubes in general

[frozen solstice]

That's why I'm holding on to it

Then I'll go in and spend 200 cubes

[wind hazel]

[frozen solstice]

Currently I am collecting and light construction

I already started planning it when I got the implacable

[frozen solstice]

I'd rather leave howe than the annoying warsprite

[honest sequoia]

[frozen solstice]

It may be strange to you, but when I see the San Diego retrofit and warsprite it hurts me

[whole crypt]

[molten zinc]

[whole crypt]

that's your choice, and we don't need to know

[honest sequoia]

[atomic abyss]

Ultimately

[whole crypt]

we recommend stuff based on effective gameplay, take it or leave it

[atomic abyss]

If you do not want to listen to our recommendations, that is ok

It's fine to play the game as you like

But then maybe you shouldn't ask for help

[frozen solstice]

But give me a reason to leave warsprite

[whole crypt]

tech

[wind hazel]

insane +2 HIT at lv120

[whole crypt]

this is the third time I'm saying tech

[honest sequoia]

does he even know about fleet tech...

[frozen solstice]

I got lost in all this myself

[tame solar]

You just don't want to listen, dude

[whole crypt]

Warspite grants all your BBs +2 HIT when you get her to lv120
on top of that she also gives you HMS faction points which you may need to level up faction tech level or unlock research ships

[wind hazel]

i answered you like 30mins ago but you wanna yap about enterprise

[whole crypt]

if you already have her at MLB and 120 you can choose to ditch her all you want

[frozen solstice]

After some time I understand everything

[tame solar]

Do you?

[whole crypt]

English not his first language so that could be an issue understanding terms

also no idea how much he is aware of mechanics including tech

[frozen solstice]

Yes, I understand everything after some time, and for information, I don't care about these technology points for the UK

[honest sequoia]

[tame solar]

Then understand nothing

[wind hazel]

the HIT applies to every BB

[whole crypt]

well if you don't care about the stats they give, again that's up to you

[frozen solstice]

Second language, and I had problems with it from the beginning.

[wind hazel]

i mean i doubt language barrier is the reason here, he could translate his hate for royal navy

[atomic abyss]

Sigh

[tame solar]

What's your first language? Maybe there's someone who could help you using the language that you understand

[wind hazel]

it's just obvious he wants to retire the RN ships, that's all

[frozen solstice]

Yes and no

[frozen solstice]

Polish

[honest sequoia]

[whole crypt]

do you understand raising those British ships and getting tech also improves all of your other ships
if you understand this and still chosoe to not care about the tech then sure go ahead we can't stop you

[atomic abyss]

Guys

The fact of the matter is that most people don't care about tech

If you've already told him

And he still wants to get rid of them

Let him be

[frozen solstice]

Okay okay I get it. Technology is useful to have better statistics. My focus on kicking out British ships is stupid. I have problems deciding what and how to develop.

I had already withdrawn a few SR, a Japanese aircraft carrier and a KII long before that.

[atomic abyss]

In short the recommendation is simple

If you don't like the royal navy ships, feel free to retire them
Just know that there are stat bonuses, that apply to all ships for raising any ships to certain levels. But these stat bonuses are well, minor and can be ignored for most people honestly

[tame solar]

Just read guides for now to get a grasp of things right now. Oh, right, you decided to ignore them, my bad

[atomic abyss]

At the end of the day, this is a game where you can play most of it with favourites

[atomic abyss]

Now you're getting toxic.

[tame solar]

Sorry

[frozen solstice]

I have the least interest in technology in rare and elite machines.

[frozen solstice]

I'm an idiot

[honest sequoia]

[frozen solstice]

I am sometimes "toxic" to myself, I don't know how else to put it

[normal cedar]

you can level UR ships to 120 without lb even once?

[honest sequoia]

100 only

[boreal wagon]

UR, research and meta ships don't have caps

[honest sequoia]

oh yea need cog chips

[atomic abyss]

Ok 1 question

Do you want to get any of the royal navy research ships
Namely Monarch, Neptune, Cheshire, Drake, Plymouth?

[normal cedar]

so 120 needs mlb i assume

[atomic abyss]

If no, I wouldn't bother with any royal navy ship, for the tech bonus or otherwise
And just play with who you want

[honest sequoia]

You dont

thats for DR PR and UR ships only

[boreal wagon]

it doesnt, but you still need to awaken them as normal

[late flame]

something something not using Unicorn because annoying onichan vibes

[frozen solstice]

Plymouth

Neptune never

[normal cedar]

Ah I see, thanks
So we can get aquisition and 120 tech points for them without wasting bulins

[zenith dust]

for UR gear in gear lab, what should be prioritized for rainbow gear to beat chapter 15? Rainbow AA or Wyvern? I only have 1 wyvern rn and no rainbow AA.
And what should be bought in the proto shop, any of the rainbow guy prints or something else?

[atomic abyss]

Then keep some high rarity royal navy ships, the ones you like really

[atomic abyss]

Wyvern

At least 2 Wyverns
Ideally 3

[frozen solstice]

So leave Ur and a few "favorites"

[whole crypt]

a note on leveling URs, research and META ships past 100 without MLB
they don't get fleet tech and they don't contribute to lecture hall stock

[boreal wagon]

u do get the 120 tech tho
unless u mean the actual points for mlb

[whole crypt]

I mean they don't get to use the tech themselves

[trim path]

they dont benefit from fleet tech, but they do contribute

[zenith dust]

would 4 not be ideal? since most recommended fleet comps have 2 carriers per fleet? or is one Wyvern per fleet enough and then the AA?
although I guess no reason to worry atm since I will need a lot of time to play OPSI and get what I need

[boreal wagon]

i see yeah

[deep cypress]

I have Z52 and Eldridge 125 MLB. What should be my next DD focus if I don't have Laffey II nor Simakaze yet?

[whole crypt]

when you use fast carriers to make your runs faster but then you have to stop anyway because of morale

[normal cedar]

wait, so do non limit broken ur ships leveled to 120 give faction tech points for research or not?

[whole crypt]

why do you need to focus on a DD specifically

[deep cypress]

That's the thing, I don't really know. Those two are my best DDs for now. What am I lacking with them?

[marsh sparrow]

save more resource,wait for CN anniv then make plan

[whole crypt]

nothing in particular, just noting that you don't need to focus on hull class

[frozen solstice]

Thank you and have a nice day

[whole crypt]

now if you need a DD to fit the hard mode slot in event then we might need a bit more info, such as what DDs you actually have now that may be useful

doesn't have to be rainbow

[atomic abyss]

Well, not all carriers have strong TB slots to begin with
There are other priorities

[deep cypress]

Nah. I have that covered. I just wanted to know if I should be leveling some other DDs, like Fu Shun.

But I guess it was a stupid question, because, like you say, I shouldn't be thinking in terms of hull classes.

[whole crypt]

well Fu Shun is good especially if you have her retrofit item or already retrofitted

[atomic abyss]

The thing with rainbow gear is that it's very easy to get the first 1 or 2
Past that it takes noticeably longer

[whole crypt]

but we'd need more context like if you're needing any particular ships or roles, not just "DDs"

[sterile grove]

Is it worth using promise ring for rookie missions with the upcoming reset? I started like 2 days after Implacable rerun and was saving it for my first UR in upcoming CN anni. I've already cleared opsi and sitting in 11-1 at commander level 78. I don't feel like I'm hurting for Hood but not sure how valuable unlocking series 2-6 training is

[trim path]

they would give faction points for collection and 120 + stat points

[whole crypt]

like I'd totally recommend raising Kazagumo but I wouldn't know if you already have her done

[frozen solstice]

Is London worth developing?

[deep cypress]

120 MLB.

[marsh sparrow]

oath unicorn

[whole crypt]

my point exactly

[atomic abyss]

You're given 1 free ring
Use it for your waifu
It's not really worth min maxing oaths unless big spender

[atomic abyss]

No

[whole crypt]

oath a ship you like, if you don't like any of the ships you have now enough then just hold on to it

you don't need to finish the rookie missions right away

[deep cypress]

But can you give me like a list of DDs that I MUST have?

[frozen solstice]

Oh finally

[whole crypt]

if you ask me there's no single ship that's a must have, and you already have a bunch of the good ones anyway

[frozen solstice]

In retirement

[deep cypress]

I guess I'll just wait for the CN event and for Laffey II to rerun.

[whole crypt]

again if it's just for the DD slot in the event just use anything that can use the XP, but again there's no need to focus on DDs besides that, so just level anything you need otherwise

you could see if there's any role you're lacking that a DD you have can fulfill

[deep cypress]

I see, I see. Thank you for you assistance, man.

[rapid grail]

if u f2p then the oath ring don't matter much, don't oath for stats. oath for who you like the most/love the most among the 700~ botes this game has

dolphin spenders and higher can afford that. f2p, please do not afford such rings; spend them on dock space, then dorm. do /gems for more info on f2p gem allocation

[deep cypress]

One more question: should I be pairing Kear with Enterprise or Independence?

[errant fog]

For the META fight, I dont even have an La9, what gold plane alternative I can use?

[atomic abyss]

independence is not a bosser
so enterprise

[deep cypress]

Noted. Thx.

[atomic abyss]

bf-109g

[errant fog]

aight tq

[plucky ice]

are meta ships good outside of opsi

[atomic abyss]

they arent even particularly good for opsi

most of the gold ones are just good gold ships

[plucky ice]

Damn ok thanks

[sterile grove]

Sounds good, ig I'll hold on to it and pass on possible extra combat data packs with the reset

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately they came out in an era of URs

[whole crypt]

generally we don't recommend oathing for stats, if you do run into a ship you really like just go for it

just in case you have any concerns with late May changes to missions as well

[warped acorn]

is there even a trash UR ship 🤔

[sterile grove]

Yea the changes announcement is what made me think I may lose a free gear from the shop

[whole crypt]

all gacha URs are good

[sterile grove]

I've only bought champy so far and saving for a Tenrai or something

[whole crypt]

they said late May so I think it's fairly safe to assume they'll come with CN anniv, you have about a month to find a ship you like for that

[atomic abyss]

all gacha and shop URs are good

[rapid grail]

all URs are good, just that some URs are better than others

[atomic abyss]

the only "trash" UR would be warpsite retrofit

[warped acorn]

oh, do ppl farm for those yellow blueprint in chapters

[atomic abyss]

hard mode blue prints?

[rapid grail]

but still better than 95% of the entire AL roster

[whole crypt]

we don't recommend farming gold gear in stages if that's what you mean

[warped acorn]

no, those like weapon, aux

[atomic abyss]

very not worth

[whole crypt]

we generally don't recommend farming gear from stages at all

[warped acorn]

hmm so most of them get it thru gear lab

[sterile grove]

hopefully I could get a UR day 1 of anni and still be able to, and then slow roll the 2nd one

[whole crypt]

all campaign stage drop gears also drop from boxes, don't craft them from lab

[south sequoia]

yes while being way more expensive when recent ssr releases are equal to her if not straight up better

[atomic abyss]

tech boxes and occassionally core shop for new players
gear lab/research otherwise

[south sequoia]

not even sandy let ssr's best her

[warped acorn]

yellow boxes 🤔

[whole crypt]

just give it time, it's generally not worth crafting gear in lab if it can be sourced elsewhere, at least not before you're swimming in materials

[errant fog]

Question. What's the current best rainbow weapon to craft in gearlab? The cat AA?

[atomic abyss]

wyvern

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[atomic abyss]

rainbow AA is pretty meaningless if you dont intend to do w15 for example

[errant fog]

I have 4 of those. good enuf.

[atomic abyss]

but you do want a few of those in ideal circumstances ofc - if you have the resources to spare

[errant fog]

Oh I havent cleared W15 too. wondering to use it for meta fight

2 in 1 ig?

[whole crypt]

rainbow AA gun is good but it's also expensive, we don't know your current gear situation or how much materials you have

[atomic abyss]

this particular meta fight wants rainbow AA for reliable OHKO

but if you ask me

it's better to invest in rainbow guns if needed since they are more universal

[errant fog]

I see

[errant fog]

I can craft 1 if I use design plan picker. I have like 20 of those. Okay so like, if I craft only 1, what other good gold AA I can craft as cheaper alternative?

[atomic abyss]

Sextuple Bofors
Otherwise stick to twin 113 aka roomba

[whole crypt]

nah just go for rainbow AA in that case

[atomic abyss]

I mean as he said earlier it depends on what you want/need after all

[errant fog]

Then I'll craft only 1 and keep the material for other important stuff.

[atomic abyss]

That's also a valid choice

Save it for when you need it

[rapid grail]

• 2/3 wyverns (and same number of breguets from gear lab. This should cover all the parallel TBs for mobbing & late campaign content)
• at least 2 tenrai in total (pr4 or gear lab source; in practice just one because can get tenrai in protocore shop)
• at least 1 457mm (same for tenrai acquisition but pr2 instead)
• at least one mk7, though not required (because mk6s do the job just fine unless if minmaxing)
• a mix of 57mm UR AA (french, great AA capabilities) and 76mm UR RF AA (eagle, BiS AA + HIT stat) for AA minmaxing. Minmaxing fleets like the 76mm more tho

the rest, you craft when you desire. hoard ur prints when you can just in case new busted stuff comes around because of biannual gear lab updates

[errant fog]

Atm, Im quite fine on Battleship's equipment, but quite messy on CV's equipment such as planes and stuff. And I wanna do meta fight too, and planning for W15

[plucky ice]

is flapjack the best option for fighter slot

[whole crypt]

honestly there's no reason to craft french AA anymore

[atomic abyss]

For AA (outside support fleet), yes

[plucky ice]

Thank thank!

[rapid grail]

ozymandias.gif

muh 3 +13 57mm UR AAs...

[errant fog]

1. ✅
2. ✅
3. ✅
4. ✅
5. ✅ (I have 1)- and I'll craft the 76mm tqvm.

Oh hey I completed the list

[whole crypt]

it is what it is, there's no point trying to justify it

[left cedar]

it is time ?

⏲️

[whole crypt]

[left cedar]

also nice 4th La-9

[normal cedar]

is opsi shop the only way to get those gear lab craft prints? the one which looks like paper/book

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[warped acorn]

should i do this for unicorn

[marsh sparrow]

just stick to corsair

[honest sequoia]

never use that plane on the right
even the gold one

[warped acorn]

alr

[zenith heron]

the only times the gold version of the right one is useful is on Chapter 15 of Campaign for Support Fleet, other than that, do not use it...

[whole crypt]

even then it's only a poverty option, there are better fighters

[tacit star]

you only get 1 promise ring for free right ;-;

[wind hazel]

other than the ones given out on anniversary, yes

[swift condor]

To the people who recommended me to send my Google Play Invoices to Yostar… it worked! They helped me get my account back!

I am so happy 😭🩷
This was the best customer support I ever received.

Bought some gems to show my gratitude. Now take two on getting De Zeven Provincien hshshs

[tacit star]

oh thanks

[warped acorn]

nice

[swift condor]

1095 days of neglect 💀

[warped acorn]

crazy
yostar reply is quite fast it took me a day to get back my acc

[swift condor]

Yeah they always replied within 30 minutes. I just haven’t been playing mobile games for the past 3 years. I got an ipad now so I wanted to get back into it haha

[warped acorn]

lol haha understandable man

[trim path]

what's arbi armor this month?

[wind hazel]

Light

the 🪼 is Medium

[eager marsh]

i've used 100 kms box and legit never got the blue plane

[atomic abyss]

you are using purple kms boxes i assume?

[eager marsh]

yes

[atomic abyss]

all i can say is, open more

[eager marsh]

[vale oasis]

how does one even obtain gear lab materials

[atomic abyss]

operation siren

[vale oasis]

ah ok

are most of the materials limited to the higher levels

[atomic abyss]

no

[vale oasis]

oh so even at the lower levels with my low level fleets i can still get good materials after some time?

[atomic abyss]

yes

because they wont stay low level for long

it also helps they dont use oil or morale

[vale oasis]

yeah

[atomic abyss]

so it's pretty good for doing when you're down on either

[dreamy blade]

really the only limiting factor for gathering opsi mats is time

[vale oasis]

ah so its just time consuming?

[whole crypt]

not so much time consuming but more like timegated

grinding itself takes time of course but a lot of the game can be afk'd

the issue is just there's not much you can do to make things faster if you've already optimized your progression

[vale oasis]

real

anyway different question now, are there other ways to get better submarine equipments than the 4 per week submarine raids

[weary gust]

Not for the torpedoes. Aux equipment comes from the core shop.

[ebon topaz]

Whats the quickest way to spend oil 😭

[atomic abyss]

dorm food

[weary gust]

Dorm food HELP runs in 12-4.

[normal cedar]

it's fine if I hold off on using cog arrays on helena right? technically if the 3 mil fills, and I uncap later then she'll go to 125 directly?

[vale spindle]

thats correct

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks

[vale oasis]

thanks

[real laurel]

Might be a weird question but I honestly forgot how it works
If a gun fires every 1 second, and it shoots out 4 bullets, does it fire 4 times or once lmao

[weary gust]

The game counts that as shooting once for skill purposes.

[real laurel]

thank you lmao

[weary gust]

For bullet hit purposes (like shield hit counts) it'll count for four.

[real laurel]

which one would you recommend for shimakaze? The right one has overall more dmg per shot but it'll proc skills slower

[weary gust]

Left

Shimakaze's gun damage is nil, you want to trigger her All out Assault.

[real laurel]

<3

[vale spindle]

blue gun is better too

[real laurel]

the 76mm?

[vale spindle]

yes

[real laurel]

Than the yellow or rainbow gun?

[atomic abyss]

it has higher rof

[vale spindle]

especially on shimakaze since all her damage even the bullets from her AoA are torp scaling

[crimson glacier]

basically the gold gun is just needlessly expensive version of the blue gun with no real upside

[vale spindle]

well extra fp is extra fp but shimakaze doesnt need extra fp

[little tree]

So gold gun is better on dd like z52 where barrage scales of fp then

Skills*

[atomic abyss]

it also happens z52 has good gun dmg in her case

[little tree]

Ohhhh

[real laurel]

If you had to pick between Laffey 2, Shimakaze, Yuudachi and Z52, which three (or even any other dd) would you recommend for a mob fleet for chapter 14?

[wind hazel]

-yuudachi

[atomic abyss]

z52 and laffey 2

if you have to, include shima, but i would choose a non DD

[real laurel]

non-dd on off-tank or middle position?

[atomic abyss]

depends on the ship

probably middle because z52 and laff2 are tanks

[real laurel]

[little tree]

Lafay 2 has good asw like eldrich kai does right ?

[atomic abyss]

no where as good

eld has high asw stat and a built in hedgehog

[little tree]

Ohhh

[wind hazel]

the asw stat is 3 difference lol

[atomic abyss]

well the built in hedgehog helps a lot more

[wind hazel]

eldridge's retro +1 built in is the main difference

[deep cypress]

Guys, is there any Vanguard ship with a slow/stop that I can use in a CV fleet with Kear and Enty? I'm using Implac in my other CV fleet and I don't have AvP. Or is there any other good CV stopper that I could use besides AvP, Implac and Nakhimov?

[atomic abyss]

no

so i wouldnt even use a kear enty team at that point

[deep cypress]

I don't have anything better, so... It 'works' until I have AvP fully developed.

[atomic abyss]

it's not even kear yk2

just use a BB fleet by that point

[deep cypress]

My BBs kinda suck.

[atomic abyss]

how bad is "kinda suck"

[wind hazel]

well your kearsarge team sucks too...

[atomic abyss]

it's still probably better than a half assed kear enty team

[deep cypress]

Gotta do a quick screenshot. Give me a sec.

[undone plover]

Northhampton 2 and eldridge kai work
But kear and enty really want yorktown II here

[atomic abyss]

i mean that's assuming kear is dev 30

at that point i would rather put eldridge with the haku/nano fleet faer

[deep cypress]

It is.

[atomic abyss]

heavy armour bosses dont move as much as the light/med armour bosses

[undone plover]

But rockets can get away with slow better than torpedoes

[deep cypress]

But I don't think I should waste bulins MLB Yk2 with the CN event being next month.

[atomic abyss]

so what is your BB fleet

[undone plover]

At least that is what I was told

[real laurel]

What does damage modifier in the case of torpedoes do? Overall damage boost?

[crimson glacier]

+13 is always 18% more dmg compared to +10, in all weapons

[deep cypress]

I have these BBs.

[wind hazel]

guess you weren't kidding

[deep cypress]

I told you.

I only have good CVs. xd

[atomic abyss]

not that kear enty would be much better if at all

once fdg is dev 30 it would absolutely be better

[deep cypress]

I can coin her. But with who should I put her? Musashi and Nelson?

[real laurel]

last question for the nerds again, which one of these would be better on Shimakaze?

[atomic abyss]

right is outright better, so yes

[atomic abyss]

indiana, tho nelson is 125 so she'll work for now

[deep cypress]

Noted.

But I could fully develop AvP sooner than building a good BB fleet. xdd

[tawdry halo]

Is this gun worth upgrading any further (currently used on Sandy)

[atomic abyss]

a kear enty avp fleet is not outperforming that BB fleet on light armour though

[little tree]

Its aa poverty stop at +10

[weary gust]

If it's the only gold gun you have/you don't have gold guns for all your ships yet, then +10 is still good for that.

[atomic abyss]

yes to +10
you can always give it to something else later

[weary gust]

Sandy would prefer a different AA gun though.

[little tree]

Sextuple on sandy

[tawdry halo]

I have a second golden AA gun, gimme a sec

[deep cypress]

I guess I could do both and wait and see what are the CN anniversary URs, and then MLBing YK2 if the ships are not worth it.

[tawdry halo]

Actually 2 golden AA guns

[little tree]

Just keep current one on sandy for now

Eventually you will want this or UR aa

[atomic abyss]

(did you forget roomba)

[tawdry halo]

Ight

[little tree]

I forgot about roomba

Generally aa carries want sextuple or ur though

If you don't have that use roomba

This is roomba

@tawdry halo

[normal cedar]

should I try to retrofit a ddg, I have excess destroyer prints...
also need to get tech for harbin anyways in the future

I'll also need a replacement for laffey in higher worlds I assume

[deep cypress]

But this CV fleet is ok, right?

[tawdry halo]

Dont have that yet

[tawdry halo]

There are DDGs in this game? Missiles?

[normal cedar]

yeah ofc, the chinese destroyer retrofits are all ddgs

they can also switch between vanguard and main, idk why though

[tawdry halo]

no other DDGs?

[tawdry halo]

They have anti-ship missiles

[atomic abyss]

they need retrofit items
said retrofit items cost specialised core
which is the same thing used for UR bulins

[tawdry halo]

Which one are for DDGs?

[atomic abyss]

if you're going to use spec core for a retrofit, it's better to get sandy's mic instead

[atomic abyss]

the 3 green ones

[whole crypt]

the 3 green seals for retrofit, gear is in core shop

[tawdry halo]

Anti-ship missile warfare

[normal cedar]

not worth it without finishing retrofit? I was thinking to do all except end node
Do that end node later after bis zwei when I have cores to spare
Also I think sandy does fine without retrofit too right? she needs aug mostly

[atomic abyss]

sandy is ok without her retro

not worth it without finishing

[tawdry halo]

She's broken with retro though

[atomic abyss]

retro + augment put her amongst best CLs in the entire game

[normal cedar]

damn, I see, thanks!
I'll wait for the (hopefully) cn anniv dd then

[tawdry halo]

AA specialist for life

[atomic abyss]

admittedly, the DDGs are amongst the best DDs in the game
the thing is, 2 of their best gear is in core data, which you can't really spare at this time

and DDGs kinda live and die by their gear
they're extremely gear reliant

and you wont have great options for main guns either

[tawdry halo]

Arent they just about sacrificing durability and armor for extreme range, accuracy and dmg via missiles and radars?

[atomic abyss]

no and no

that's not how they work in AL

[tawdry halo]

[tawdry halo]

[atomic abyss]

in AL, they play as extremely high gun damage DDs
their missiles are basically anti light armour torpedoes

[whole crypt]

high, I wouldn't say extremely high

[tawdry halo]

So anyway, those DDs are buildable in the light pool right?

[atomic abyss]

no

most of them are in guild shop iirc save an shan who is limited

[viscid swift]

Fu Shun is also limited

[atomic abyss]

i stand corrected
so tai yuan and chang chun are in guild shop

out of which tai yuan is better

[whole crypt]

An Shan and Fu Shun are only available during every CNY
Tai Yuan and Chang Chun are in shops

also Fu Shun's retrofit item hasn't been added to shop

[tawdry halo]

Was about to ask, thanks, now time to save up for missile warfare

[whole crypt]

it's really not a priority...

[atomic abyss]

it's just a fancy anti light armour torp...

[whole crypt]

come back for the retrofit items when you actually have the gear

[atomic abyss]

they have "missile attacks" but they're not exactly very useful

[tawdry halo]

Hence why I said save up

[viscid swift]

honestley

unless you have the items for the DDGs already I wouldn't bother at all

[whole crypt]

do you have other core shop items you need to be getting, like shells

because if you do then making and gearing DDGs is really not high priority

[atomic abyss]

it's not like you even have the spec cores to spare either

[tawdry halo]

Arent the DDG stuffs around these

[tawdry halo]

Shells yes, I am getting 2 more pairs of the 2 white and black

[atomic abyss]

gear yes, retro item no

retro item costs spec core

core data prio is 3 pairs of shells and independence

[tawdry halo]

I already have the first pair

[whole crypt]

again DDGs not high priority come back when you have enough

[tawdry halo]

Alright

[whole crypt]

you probably going to get some of that stuff free if you stick around for next CNY anyway

[tawdry halo]

[whole crypt]

not the retrofit items but there's a fair chance you'll get a missile

that or they'll retire the SY1A missile to shop as well which is better than the SY1 that's there now

[normal cedar]

where do you get siren coordinates from in opsi, the shop alone or is there any other source?

[tawdry halo]

(What too much modern naval warfare doctrine consumption does to a person)

[whole crypt]

shop, voucher exchange, random from cats

[normal cedar]

ahh yes cats as well, I see
Thanks!

[frozen solstice]

At what point in the game will I need to look for a second fleet?

[forest palm]

world 10~

[atomic abyss]

w9 and onwards is where you can consider
w12 is the best place to build one

[rose whale]

are these girls worthy to 125?

[atomic abyss]

well they ARE all really good

i would take it more as, if you're gonna use them to 1:1 D3/SP, sure, tho maybe 1 at a time

[wind hazel]

personally im leaning towards no

[waxen valley]

Can you not use coins for her

[little tree]

No

[atomic abyss]

you cant coin newer ships

[waxen valley]

Okay good to know thx

[little tree]

Also you should Do Shinmoto Next She is very Useful do PR catchup on her

[clear harbor]

Is there any negative consequence to farming a stage where I loose 1 ship? Does that one ship lose morale faster than the others?

[little tree]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

yes

also you get less exp

worse drops

[waxen valley]

I only got 806 Sakura tech points :/

Ya I know LMAOO

[clear harbor]

Think it might still be wort it to farm HT2 for the oil cap if I lose 1 maybe 2 ships from my mob fleet? Or backoff and farm HT1?

[waxen valley]

Shd I build friedrich first then build Hindenburg cos I jus unlocked them both

[atomic abyss]

friederich first cos much more impactful and she can be coined

[weary gust]

Worth yes, high priority no.

[atomic abyss]

farm HT1 for a bit till you can do HT2 reliably

[clear harbor]

That makes sense. Thank you.

[sweet delta]

Ht2

[waxen valley]

What should i have as research focus

[clear harbor]

Oh

[waxen valley]

Same as the ship I’m building ?

[sweet delta]

You can lose a third of your fleet In the first battle and it'll still be more efficient than ht1 if you win

[atomic abyss]

5 if you're not done with it

[waxen valley]

I’m coming back after 3 yrs so I don’t rly have any of the gear bps from any series

Okay thank you

[fleet berry]

Also, are you still on Lethal on HT2? If you're on Safe, the difficulty should be reduced quiet significantly and all of your ships can survive.

[clear harbor]

It's on Lethal, still.

Is there a name for the mini-boss mobs?

[atomic abyss]

we call them elites

well if its on lethal, then getting it to safe shd solve your issues as said

[fleet berry]

Yeah, if you are only losing 1-2 ships, I'll run HT2 with your best fleets (not your farming fleet) until it reaches Safe.

[stuck owl]

How's she?

[atomic abyss]

shit, even by below super rare standards

[stuck owl]

Oh 😭

[atomic abyss]

one of the worst super rares in the game

big oof

[eternal basalt]

The newcomer news is for exam, right. Or for the PR missions?

[viscid swift]

the former

[eternal basalt]

Time to stop being a newcommer

[little tree]

They Axing it completely ?

[atomic abyss]

change

it seems

[little tree]

Oh boy

[atomic abyss]

https://fxtwitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1916447233605861435

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN)

【Notice】
︀︀
︀︀Dear Commander,
︀︀
︀︀The "Rookie Training" system will receive a major update during late May. All progress in the "Newcomer" missions will be reset, and Commander will gain access to brand-new rewards. Be sure to complete any unfinished missions to claim all rewards before the reset.
︀︀Thank you for your continued support!
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[little tree]

oo something to do now

[eternal basalt]

Atleast it offers me thousands of oil during an event when I need them...

[little tree]

~~ just pull oil from mail

[robust heath]

When are we gonna get ciws systems?

[eternal basalt]

~~Was planning to, change of plans ~~

[robust heath]

Also what did I miss to see the timer?

Oh wait this is not general

Morning tiredness.

[viscid swift]

CIWS?

[stark quiver]

game is probably gonna eos before we get ciws

[robust heath]

https://tenor.com/view/ahhh-gif-9549451645697661034

[little tree]

what is CIWS

[waxen valley]

It doesn’t let me change who I’m developing for 24 hr even if I finished them that’s annoying

[plain saffron]

[little tree]

[eternal basalt]

You just changed to them for a final hurdle?

[waxen valley]

LOL ya

I wanna do Plymouth

[normal cedar]

from what dev level onwards can you use brest as mob tank?

[stark quiver]

15 iirc

shes losing quite some damage tho
and notech bonuses

id use her at d25 cuz thats most of her bulk already

[normal cedar]

nice, thats low enough to be feasible
since I only know her, agir and anchorage as top tier tanks

im doing series 5 focus anyways too

[ebon topaz]

How do i spend my oil quickly 😭😭

[finite adder]

I usually spam the commission that costs 1200

[eternal basalt]

Do eventruns

[stark quiver]

🍛

[ebon topaz]

Cant even beat D:

[eternal basalt]

T1?

[ebon topaz]

I started yesterday

[eternal basalt]

Then why do you need to rapidly spend oil

[worldly pewter]

tai yuan died in this sp and had to replace her with z23 this is the first time that she dies

[paper walrus]

After you are done with the rookie missions and the pr catch up how do you get protocore?

[eternal basalt]

Excess prints

[ebon topaz]

The newcomer 😭

[cobalt rapids]

excess prints from gear focus in completed seasons

[paper walrus]

So the income slows down a lot after that huh

[eternal basalt]

I doubt it will give you that much, and you have goals you have to run, like starters at high level

[cobalt rapids]

pretty much

[undone plover]

Z23 or Z52 ?

[worldly pewter]

52

sry for misinfo

[whole crypt]

it slows down before you're caught up

eventually you catch up with research and you get excess prints, then comes your actual regular proto core income

[cobalt rapids]

which is low
i have 0 prints to convert from pr7 rn

[paper walrus]

[worldly pewter]

i think the newcomer missions throw more oil at u than what u can use that is why it is preferable to not overclaim them

[stark quiver]

sup gph, whatre yall running for sp low cost

[eternal basalt]

Btw, no protocore in rookie missions, only PR and cruise pass

[cobalt rapids]

mb i have 2k ish protocore from pr7 rn

[worldly pewter]

uni z52 tai yuan didn't hold enough

[whole crypt]

I was thinking that didn't add up damn it ren

[ebon topaz]

I have 2x my capacity and cant even finish easy 😭

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Beginner_Rewards#Common 300 oil It only gets better if you already done stuff

[paper walrus]

Arent these the rookie missions?

[sweet delta]

Uni 120fushun
Ranger anshan

[whole crypt]

research missions aren't rookie missions... you get them in the same menu from th e top but they're different things

[worldly pewter]

i had been on over max capacity for 2 weeks now now worries 🤝

[paper walrus]

[whole crypt]

[eternal basalt]

Make sure to keep spares for fate sim 5.

[whole crypt]

I'm at 3.8k from PR7 now

that's after keeping for FS

[viscid swift]

Does no one spend oil

[cobalt rapids]

only when im grinding

[paper walrus]

After setting enough protocore aside for 3 champy guns i should spend everything on a tenrai right?

[eternal basalt]

I spend oil. Taz was very offended

[whole crypt]

2100 isn't even enough for 3x3xHT3

[worldly pewter]

when i have enough ram to start the emulator

[cobalt rapids]

i would get 2 champy and 1 flandre gun

[eternal basalt]

@umi show your PR7 screen. See if you have enough to FS5

[worldly pewter]

are u really expecting fs5 to drop this soon ? especially when no one uses the ships

[whole crypt]

folks who've been focusing PR7 from start of series even with gear focus should have enough for FS by now

[viscid swift]

hmmm

[eternal basalt]

Should be more than enough for the PR's, not DR's

[eternal basalt]

July I think? Or shortly after... Better to have them than need to gather again. And "no one uses", let's see what buffs they get...

[viscid swift]

August

[sweet delta]

Best have 165 halford bps ready for her fs5 to give seaplane mount +3

[viscid swift]

and watch them still not fix her

[whole crypt]

almost enough

is halford broken?

[cobalt rapids]

since her newest skin released

[viscid swift]

her seaplane launches from her chibi

so it can't target much of anything

Also meh

[atomic abyss]

hellford more like

[ebon topaz]

Whens the new banner

[sweet delta]

Now

[atomic abyss]

(now, but not worth rolling)

[paper walrus]

What is the use of the flandre gun in short

[atomic abyss]

new players shd save for UR events

next one is expected to be late may

[ebon topaz]

😭

[worldly pewter]

in 3 weeks

[atomic abyss]

champy with diff timing
same for soyuz gun

[atomic abyss]

best fleet for new players uses 0 gacha ships so

[ebon topaz]

Build pity trust

[atomic abyss]

you save SO you can build pity for limited URs

[eternal basalt]

This event is 2 weeks still, one week rest, one week CtA, atleast 4

[atomic abyss]

cos the pity for limited URs only start and reset every UR banner

[ebon topaz]

Is z23 and javelin elite tier also ?

[worldly pewter]

is this a late cn anni the latest they did was something around the 25th

[atomic abyss]

same as laffey yes
you dont need to raise them tho

[ebon topaz]

Are they free or something

[paper walrus]

So for the time being my goal should be 2 champy guns, 1 flandre gun and 1 tenrai?

[cobalt rapids]

sounds fine

[atomic abyss]

drop from any campaign map yes

[eternal basalt]

I expect 22, but that's speculation on my part

[ebon topaz]

Ok thx

[eternal basalt]

It cannot be sooner than that, only 1 week after.

[whole crypt]

actual anniv is 25

we've had history of event starting on 27

but it's also started as early as 21

so the chances of 15 CTA 22 actual event is fairly good

[eternal basalt]

Any non-UR events that need to rerun if they do make it last a week longer? Would it be EN anni due to the collab reruns of 23?

[viscid swift]

well after Frostfall would be Zwei
could move up Clemnceau I suppose

[eternal basalt]

Nothing inbetween?

[sweet delta]

Check the wiki

[eternal basalt]

Yeah, june raid, july collab

[normal cedar]

july collab
what do you mean, I thought collabs were in nov

oh like frostfall ig collab stages

[eternal basalt]

collab rerun

[atomic abyss]

[viscid swift]

that was the Gridman Collab rerun wasn't it

[bold girder]

Should I switch to another ship after maximizing this one or can I switch without doing this one?

[viscid swift]

Idolmaster collab also dropped in July

[eternal basalt]

Fate Sim has no switching

[viscid swift]

we have had more than one collab event in a year before

[bold girder]

I mean, I haven't finished this yet.

[little tree]

FDG fatesim more Important

[bold girder]

thx

[eternal basalt]

But she is also build, do you mean research switching?

You shouldn't do PR2, just use coins.

[whole crypt]

2nd collab coming this year trust

[little tree]

Misinofromation Just as bad as Sushi

[viscid swift]

I wish....

[bold girder]

so I asked if I could leave it like this and develop the agir or another ship, but they said that fate is more important

Thank you all anyway

[eternal basalt]

I would coin FdG and focus research on Agir (or coin her too). Or focus on another DR, like Kearsarge or green cat.

[whole crypt]

well last one was their 15th and this year is their 20th... so pray

[tawny bear]

which ones are the best ships to buff vanguard? i want to focus mvp on vanguard

[eternal basalt]

Plymouth

[tawny bear]

i mean main fleet ships

[atomic abyss]

none

[bold girder]

Is it worth it to spend only 53k coins on it?

[atomic abyss]

the main fleet ships that buff the vanguard would end up stealing mvp instead

[atomic abyss]

no just do 10 discounted a day

[atomic abyss]

tbh, mvp manipulation is an exercise in futility

you can try, but the methods involved is more scuffing the backline dmg by removing or changing gear

[bold girder]

kk thx

[tawny bear]

gonna be a confetti gun enjoyer

[atomic abyss]

uh, that might not work as well as you may think

if the BB has a barrage the relatively fast confetti gun wont help you reduce dmg much

+0 blue quad 356 would be better

or

you can go to w12 and use repair ships for AA instead

[viscid swift]

Akashi, Vestal, etc

[atomic abyss]

they dont buff the vanguard, but they dont deal dmg outside AA

[viscid swift]

Get creative as they say

[eternal basalt]

~~And watch them steal mvp by airplane damage dealt ~~

[atomic abyss]

i have done that before while farming

[hollow gust]

Not quad 152 for dezeven

[viscid swift]

I only have 5

[atomic abyss]

too lazy to find the mvp ss so this will do

yes it's a very old ss, how could you tell

w12 farm without oil cap was 🧠

[stark quiver]

where was that skin from?

[atomic abyss]

as you might have guessed from the name in the skin
kinokuniya collab skin

[eternal basalt]

Event. Ran 4 times or so That was the teacher skin, this one ran twice in 2020. EN only skin till the end of the year, good times.

[paper walrus]

flandre gun is fine to leave at +10 right

apparently i already have 5 blueprints so i can buy it

[atomic abyss]

it's a champy gun side grade
why not +13 it?

[paper walrus]

i dont know thats what the guide said 😭

[foggy minnow]

Is there a ship which i should focus to retrofit after Unicorn ?

[atomic abyss]

portland

[foggy minnow]

ah ok thanks

[stone sluice]

Does someone have a 5th LA-9?
There’s a fleet composition that requires it?

[atomic abyss]

a kear impla yk2 comp for anti med would use 5

it wouldnt be superior to a soyuz nakhi rumey comp tho

[stone sluice]

So we don’t need a 5th La-9

[atomic abyss]

for now, yes we do not

[foggy minnow]

how should i level my second fleet atm i put them into dorm and doing the exp commisions

[atomic abyss]

for now, events if your first fleet is sufficiently high levelled

[worthy pike]

what do submarines do

i dont see them that useful i wont lie

[atomic abyss]

they are not useful for new players

[atomic abyss]

they are very useful in late/end game AL, when you can summon them in battle to do large amounts of damage

not that you need them

it just makes life much easier

[worthy pike]

nowhere near late game so i wont focus on that now

[keen sable]

Kill stuff

[atomic abyss]

that would be a good idea
because you likely do not have the good subs

[worthy pike]

i also dont really know how to make my units stronger too many words are thrown around and idk whats what

[atomic abyss]

you do that by using better gear and levelling your ships

or well, use better ships

[worthy pike]

ill focus on those now then

i got the green haired elf is she good

the one that got a skin now

[keen sable]

Is she mlb?

[worthy pike]

i did nothing with her yet

[atomic abyss]

it's better to invest into the recommended newbie fleet first

[worthy pike]

i gotta level her up first and leveling up takes too fucking long

[keen sable]

Then it depends on what you have

[eternal basalt]

Sub gear is gotten from daily. Do the best you can each day (or week for subs)

[worthy pike]

these are my teams

[atomic abyss]

i would abandon one of the fleets entirely

because you're splitting your resources and gears across them

it's better to consolidate your resources into 1 fleet for now and max that

[worthy pike]

alright

[viscid swift]

no idea who that is in first fleet flag

[atomic abyss]

ikr

oh

that's arkhangelsk i think?

[tame jungle]

yea it's arkhangelsk

[viscid swift]

color me impressed, managed to stump me

[atomic abyss]

i had to search up the russian BBs to be sure

[tame jungle]

i thought "what's wrong with this dude's tirpitz"

[viscid swift]

anyway first read that
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[worthy pike]

ok

[viscid swift]

and follow the fleet in the guide

[worthy pike]

i really need to learn all of these acronyms man im still lost

fucks a BB

[viscid swift]

Battleship

DD is a Destroyer
CL is a Light Cruiser
CA is a Heavy Cruiser
CV is and Aircraft Carrier
CVL is a Light Aircraft Carrier
and so on

there's half a dozen more but those are the main ones

they're mostly the hull designations used by the United States Navy

[worthy pike]

alright

[foggy minnow]

are in the Event Builds just SR or can be there in some Event Builds UR too ?

[tame jungle]

no UR in the event pools

only UR events have URs in the event pools (and these are not UR events)

[eternal basalt]

Only from perma pity

[foggy minnow]

so is it just for getting event ships and build up ur pitty or when should i go for the build?

[eternal basalt]

To addem the UR event have only ONE UR in their pool, not the others

How many cubes do you have?

[foggy minnow]

atm 133

[eternal basalt]

Save for May

[foggy minnow]

did like 30 on the one with Kazan got De Zeven and Evertsen and on the 4/17 like 30 builds for the Kursk / Voroshilov one

[eternal basalt]

You got everything from the pool, saaaave

[tame jungle]

rule of thumb: below 400 cubes = just save

[foggy minnow]

got from the Kursk one Kursk and Vorshilov using them together with Sovetskaya together in my first fleet

[foggy minnow]

so just the light daily build then ?

[eternal basalt]

Try to get Kazan from TH3/SP

[foggy minnow]

when i get kazan should i put her then into the fleet or because i can get her for the 8k Points ?

thats my first fleet atm.

[eternal basalt]

Prob not put her in the fleet, since lb0, but saves you 8k points

[foggy minnow]

ok.

is there an war archive which you recommand?

[strong tartan]

none of them are worth your time

[foggy minnow]

okay going to push forward for chapter 9 and doing the event stage

[worthy pike]

whats the difference between a normal unit and a META unit

the only thing different i see is that i gotta work more on meta units

[viscid swift]

how you limit break, enhance them, and level their skills

META doesn't mean anything other than from a gameplay perspective, it's mainly to designate that they're from the META faction/alts of regular ships

[eternal basalt]

And they don't take a dockslot

[viscid swift]

META doesn't mean meta in the gameplay sense, it's short for metamorphosis

[eternal basalt]

If you need IB points can't go wrong with Divergent Chessboard

[signal kraken]

Is there a walkthrough for Project Id?

[eternal basalt]

#1204845559790440488

[worthy pike]

oh ok

[tranquil dagger]

I've got saint louis at 29/30, who should I replace in my fleets with her if anyone?

[atomic abyss]

cleve once dev 30

[tranquil dagger]

ty, I'll get her to level 70 since that's the only limiting factor

[waxen valley]

Do u get fleet tech points past level 120

[stark quiver]

No

[tiny reef]

what do you guys do when your ships hit the 3 mil exp limit for lv 125? Stop using them unless against a difficult boss?

[waxen valley]

Thank u

[atomic abyss]

yes

[tiny reef]

rip

[ruby grotto]

is it worth it to farm 160+ times HT3 + daily + SP to reach 55k event points?

[grizzled stream]

what is it that you want at 55k

usually it's to farm enough to get what you want from pt reward/event shop/map drops

[ruby grotto]

55k have 10 ALL gold plates... but this event's shop selection is worse/less important than before it seems..?

[grizzled stream]

sounds reasonable, the shop is pretty standard so you should be able to buy just about everything you want for 55k

[light trail]

sorry to ask again but can i pls get a few questions answered in my thread #1342246879311822848

[dark turret]

my portland and helena are struggling to survive against the 9-1 boss, should i try and switch/upgrade another ship instead or continue to upgrade my current portland/helena

i just feel like my tank is lacking even though portland is supposed to be enough to get me through past this point

[atomic abyss]

well, yes
because frontliner typically want auxiliary gear that give them bulk, rather than damage

for portland, you could give her 2 blue evasion gear - whether naval camo or steering gear

for helena, give her a purple toolbox and 1 blue evasion gear

[dark turret]

thanks goat, im assuming yes to the upgrading current portland/helena right

[atomic abyss]

yes

[slender turtle]

If im going for ur prints through the researchs, should i just do the shortest ones that have a chance at giving the print? Or do the longer ones have a better chance

[atomic abyss]

gear or ship?
typically shorter is better

[slender turtle]

Trying to get tenrai prints, im like 8 off

[atomic abyss]

shorter the better

[slender turtle]

Kk makes sense, ty ty

[storm marlin]

What benefits come with enhancing? Just asking.

[tame jungle]

enhancing ships? hella stats

[atomic abyss]

Loads of stats

[dark turret]

/checkbind

[odd root]

uid is a required argument.

[dark turret]

/checkbind 410549101

[eternal basalt]

You have to be a mod to do that

[stark quiver]

[dark turret]

oh shoot is it okay to ping a mod for that?

also im in the wrong chat clearly

[twilit crow]

does anyone know what level the chapter 2 opsi fleets are I can't seem to find it in the wiki and I don't have enough ships that are mlb or lvl 110+ to make 4 fleets

[eternal basalt]

Chapter Level Investigate Siren Research "bonus" Level Reward
1 62-68 94 Fleets 3 & 4 unlocked, META Showdown, Auto Mode (Explorable and Secured)
2 72-78 104 Submarine fleet unlocked
3 82-88 N/A -
4 92-98 124 Daily Missions, Siren Strongholds, Reset, Auto Mode (Hidden and Siren Stronghold), Strategic Search
5 104 N/A Arbiter Fight

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Story_Mode

[twilit crow]

ah ok thank you thank you, the bonus mission was way harder then the normal story mode so I thought chapter 2 would be like that from then on out

[forest palm]

[eternal basalt]

I mean... it is

[real laurel]

For DDs such as Laffey II and Z52 is it better to run with "Repair Toolkit + HP item" or "Repair Toolkit + High Performance Hydraulic Steering Gear"?

[viscid swift]

the former

[forest palm]

I tend to use Tool Kit + Action Report: Opteration AF/Pearl's Tears on Laffii. Z52 is gonna be 2x Toolkit unless vanguard pressure isn't so bad then I use a Toolkit + Offensive Aux (like Battle Tracto Max)

[whole crypt]

pearl's tears doesn't work very well on Laffey II because she tends to be the last vanguard to die

[slow fox]

Mebot approved

[worthy pike]

i still dont understand how hard mode works
there aren't any extra enemies to fight other than the boss

also what does getting 3 stars do? i see nothing

[forest palm]

turn this off

specifically clearing mode

[worthy pike]

may I ask why

[forest palm]

clearing mode on hard mode only spawns the boss, and removes the mobs

[worthy pike]

i see alright

[worthy pike]

on what should I focus on when doing gear

I'm still doing random bs

the game also does not tell me how exactly that efficiency thing works

[finite adder]

What formations can I make that are good? Ion know much to be able to make myself

[zenith heron]

Its usually indicated how good a certain ship uses that mount slot, which also affects how well your ships fire said equipment

[sharp socket]

which of these don't have good tech e.g. hp, trp, eva or have no tech/useless tech e.g. subs

[stark quiver]

arizona

[sharp socket]

pulling every banner has been catastrophic for my dock space, i actually have to consider spending soon

[stark quiver]

wouldnt it be easier if you went on a tech tracker tho

[viscid swift]

Hamman 2, Dunkerque, Indianapolis, Ajax, Arizona, Black Prince, Renown, Niizuki, Harutsiki, Kirishima, Hipper, Soobbraz, Fleuret, Lena, Bellona, Hanazuki, Vincenzo, Emanuele, Svirepy, Giosue, Mullany, Bell, Miller, Shinnao Chan, Hero, Little Renown, Little Illustrious, Little Formidable, Yoizuki, Shinano Chan, Kashino, Evertsen

plus the subs

[sharp socket]

roughly 30 ships to go, thanks for help

[dark turret]

any recs for purchasing from guild shop

[stark quiver]

chang chun, tai yuan are good if you have their retrofit items

giulio has good 120 tech

[zenith heron]

you can make a thread so we can help you there to avoid cluttering here...

[finite adder]

What formations can I make that are good

Like that?

[zenith heron]

yes

[hybrid portal]

can someone share the most optimal team for clearing OS

[stark quiver]

what part of it

[eager mulch]

all of it

[sharp socket]

mob fleet + 2 boss fleets

fill with rainbows, profit

[grave cove]

As a new player when is it worth farming for gears? Example maps being 3-2 and 3-4. Should I do it asap, get as far as I can then go back, etc?

[wind hazel]

instruction unclear, used my little pony and failed to defeat c4 siren

[wind hazel]

get gear from techbox, don't farm from map

[stark quiver]

alright
unicorn,luna,indep
brest(?) unzen,hinden for mob

[wind hazel]

compose all techbox to T3(purple), open only purple and above techboxes

[grave cove]

Gotcha thanks

[south marsh]

little questio from a new guy, in what chapter i have to really think about my formations?

[wind hazel]

from the beginning

[south marsh]

oh boy 🙂

[wind hazel]

just follow this and you'll be fine https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/starterfleet

[stark quiver]

hi mori

[south marsh]

i think i'm alr to advanced for that

i'm currently clearing 9-2

[wind hazel]

formations dont change...

unless you're using real weird stuff like Odin

[south marsh]

i'll just finish this fight and i'll show the 2 formations i'm using and the ships i have

but do tell me if i'm using weird stuff, i'm getting back to the game now and i'm a bit overwhelmed

need some help with my formations

[stark quiver]

hi whos tankier, 110 northampton or 100 schultz

[viscid swift]

my gut reaction is Schultz

[slow fox]

Napkin math:

110 Northampton 33%
100 Felix 64%

[viscid swift]

Not like it matters too much....

[slow fox]

Where eHP gear

[viscid swift]

Battletractor is technically eHP?

but anyway I believe in the old saying, sometimes the best defense is a good offense

[slow fox]

I wouldn't consider it technically eHP. It's actually eHP. Just not toolkirrudder

[slow fox]

mutsuki

[sweet delta]

fumo is eHP too. Zero eHP

[slow fox]

Empty set believer spotted

delusiolnal

[viscid swift]

This is definitely 0 eHP

[slow fox]

28% eHP

[viscid swift]

yep, survives 12-1 just fine and she'll be main tanking soon enough

[oblique canyon]

Do these torps legitimately help at all in W14?

[viscid swift]

not really no

they can't actually target subs, they can just hit subs if they happen to be in the way

not that you'd want to be expending torps on subs anyway though

[oblique canyon]

Oh, for some reason I thought they would. Guess I'll just toss on quad mags then

[stark quiver]

if you need odin to asw in 14, you might have more probs to deal with

[oblique canyon]

Nah I'm set already have 14-4 safe, just wanted to use Odin to get to 200

[stark quiver]

but yeh quad mags are better for most cases

[grave cove]

Still new, looking for tips for farming ship levels/exp. Whats the best way to set up a fleet for grinding?

[waxen valley]

I can finally get shimanto YAYYYY

[soft raft]

#al-general

[waxen valley]

Well ppl. Were saying to get her next and I didn’t have enough tech points so I just wanted to say

[soft raft]

full fleet go brrrrrrr
and ideally you'd farm 12-1/12-4, or at the very least W9 since that's where oil cap starts

If you havent reached there yet, then just farm the highest stage you can and/or Passionate polaris SP5 or the vent stage

[grave cove]

Im only at chapter 5. Do I just keep my full fleet and replay highest stage I can?

[soft raft]

this is the gameplay help channel, did you have a question regarding Shimanto or nah

[grave cove]

Do I sortie or full clear?

[soft raft]

just run that shit on auto
it is not worth the time to manually send your fleet after every enemy node before going for the boss

[grave cove]

Gotcha, ty very much

[plucky ice]

is there a project identity guide anywhere

[atomic abyss]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

@plucky ice

[bronze basin]

which ship should I pull in event

[atomic abyss]

As good as they are

None of them if you don't have well over 400 cubes

Because we should be seeing a new UR next month

@bronze basin

[bronze basin]

so it better idea to save right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

Especially if you don't already have Bismarck Zwei
Who will likely rerun sometime after the next new UR

[bronze basin]

tysm, I just start the game now at 2-1

[atomic abyss]

Just stick to 1x build in light a day for the daily mission

Since you get 1 cube from that daily mission to cancel it out

[bronze basin]

tysm! I just know that from you xD

[desert tapir]

My usual friend of mine is asking if they can kick Franklin out of the dock with out missing out.
Before I say yes is Franklin actually really really good? Or can the get rid of her?

[wind hazel]

she's a good ship, and only recently released. not recommended to retire

[atomic abyss]

Well she is a good ship for a newer player
Not really relevant in the long run sure
If they really don't like her well, up to them, it is their game
I just wouldn't recommend it personally

[elfin hollow]

is Franklin still in builds or limited event, I just got back

[wind hazel]

event is over, have to wait rerun

[elfin hollow]

thank you

[hollow gust]

Franklin is +2AVI

[desert tapir]

They have 3 12+ UR CV's and most of the uper tier girls they will be fine i think. Thanks for double checking.

[atomic abyss]

At the end of the day this is a waifu game so

If you really don't like a character, and accept that there will be a small loss if you do

Sure

[hollow gust]

At least 120 her

[atomic abyss]

You over estimate how much people care for fleet tech

[sinful escarp]

its just that this channel is an echo chamber for players that want to minmax (no shade)

[wind hazel]

well i mean they asked what they are gonna miss out. missing 2 AVI is what's missing out

[hollow gust]

[honest sequoia]

Is there a guide on maxing out tech

[sinful escarp]

get them to 120: rld>hit>FP/avi>rest

is what i think is the priority

[wind hazel]

BB hit>rld>fp
CV rld>hit>avi
Cruisers eva>fp
DD fp

feel like im forgetting something

[honest sequoia]

and how would i know whats the maximum amount of tech

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker
check here

there's a summary at bottom left

[viscid swift]

When you've maxed all the ships that give that tech for that hull type

That's the max so it's always increasing with new releases

[pulsar hornet]

do we have a command nor a pin of the compendium of previous meta fights?

[slow fox]

This Harbiter with her 5% dmg every 10 seconds. Would you consider her damage distribution to be "splashy" because of that skill?

[karmic pebble]

yall remember that paint brush green hair lady UR, is she any good?

and what of her submarine sidekick i forgot her name but she also got green hair and from the same event

[dreamy blade]

yes

she is good but not better than wolfpack or fishpack

[karmic pebble]

alright bet

[cobalt rapids]

idk about temp ( or hermit ) pattern because they were never threaty to my surv but for strength i would consider her splashy because alot of dmg is in and abit after her smash
so i would say its more of a pattern thing than ramping skill, if her dmg pattern is linear would a linear ramping skill make it splashy ?
idk if this answers your question ( it doesn't ) so mby wait for our local opsi expertor to wake up

[honest sequoia]

Does every submarine need a snorkel and pressure hull
cuz i have 1 UR oxy torp sitting for ages

and im using wolfpack

[cobalt rapids]

depends ™️

snorkel and hull is plug and play with less thought need

[hollow gust]

snorkel and hull is the saftest option in every case

[honest sequoia]

fishpack
albacore
archerfish

Wolfpack
101
37
47
81
96

[cobalt rapids]

95kai usually drop hull because of their bigger aquis range

[honest sequoia]

which wolfpack should i use tho for the 3rd one with 81 and 96

[cobalt rapids]

96 81 101

[honest sequoia]

101 with augment?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[honest sequoia]

does she need pressure hull? or i can give her oxy torp

[cobalt rapids]

oxy