gameplay-help

[zenith heron]

probably a good instance since one example that is good on this is probaby the CM Yukikaze boss fight

[eternal moth]

Do we have barrage info for the new ships yet?

[frank pulsar]

bomb type dmg, more info here
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[cobalt rapids]

like this

kinda

[frank pulsar]

so it was 7

[mild sail]

I thought the middle one have bigger splash

[cobalt rapids]

it does uhh

lemme find the soyuz one

[mild sail]

And like, one enemy won't take all the hits I think

[sweet delta]

that is belorussiya

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[cobalt rapids]

can you add soyuz barrage or smth to the message

[slow fox]

-# "can you mis this information" smh

[fickle hollow]

Should i +13 my 2nd Champy gun or save for UR gun?

[cobalt rapids]

champy

[late flame]

[cobalt rapids]

[sweet delta]

sovetsky soyuz barrage

[eternal moth]

What about barrages for say, Oleg? Do we have those yet?

[crimson glacier]

so are all the new ships shit

[sweet delta]

Oleg barrage https://www.youtube.com/live/UWdMySC0NBk?si=tqLdYAWNNAqDOX4r&t=3922

[eternal basalt]

People: "Shimanto got outclassed"
Torva: "Shit"

[crimson glacier]

i literally just came here

[eternal moth]

Oleg's worth using just for that drill lol

[humble solar]

Maintenance began

[versed forum]

any idea how to quickly kill that octopus from hard arbiter? It's so tanky and takes too much time there's still 10x HP left

[warped acorn]

uh oh

[molten zinc]

So this is the first time a ship got 3 AA mounts right?

[atomic abyss]

Lol no
The repair ships

[molten zinc]

ah rite totally forgot they exist

[atomic abyss]

Don't sleep on their AA

[cobalt rapids]

its medium armored but temperance is light so you would take gear for light anyway
gear properly if u have a grouper like bz then even better

[frank pulsar]

er the boss is temperance right? using triple bb with zwei you can just attack the boss and the jellyfish at same time with some luck
otherwise just brute force, jellyfish is med armour and not light btw

[normal cedar]

arent these really great skills? if the stats are upto the mark then kazan would be one of the best gold bb?

[honest stirrup]

The damage reduction part seems way too random to be reliable though

[honest sequoia]

Just use triple BB with HE guns and personally I’d like to manually aim the boss once it spawns the jellyfish

[normal cedar]

what do you mean, isnt it 100% probability

[atomic abyss]

Well, I won't deny the kit appears good on paper
Here's the issue
Damage is probably ass

[normal cedar]

is it? i dont know whether the fp and stats are good or not , thats why I asked here if someone could interpret the stats

[atomic abyss]

I will confess that her being a proper BB healer is incredibly interesting

[atomic abyss]

The issue is that she has basically no offensive skills outside the 15% FP buff

[atomic abyss]

But your competition is Unicorn retrofit

[normal cedar]

i see, thats true

[honest stirrup]

Yeah but if you find yourself to be relying on that skill to make the difference, then if the skill selects 2 characters 4 times in a row (which is very plausible), there's a big chance your 3rd will just die
Might as well just take really reliable vanguards and fully dedicate your main towards specialized roles

[atomic abyss]

I don't think she's bad by any means
The kit looks really good to me

Especially for min maxers who are pushing frontline tech

It's just that the best gold BBs are called that because of their damage and other utility

Best gold support BB? I'd say good chance

[normal cedar]

so tier 1 ig according to ectl, with hood and nelson

[atomic abyss]

But when she has nothing else going for her, it kinda hurts

Oh idk, ectl is pretty wonky with it's tiering

T1-2 would be my approximation based on their criteria

[wary robin]

is there info already what tech points does new ships gives?

[atomic abyss]

for tech at 120
D7P: +1 CL Reload
Evertson: +1 DD HP
Kazan: +1 BB FP
Oleg: +1 CL hit

[sterile jolt]

Kinda meh

[wary robin]

obligatory Oleg leveling it seems

[atomic abyss]

Ok so hilariously
Kazan's barrage apparently has a slow
Oleg's every 12s barrage having 4 random options one of them being heal all ships for 5%

Apparently neither is stated in the skill description

Marvelous

So uh, Kazan now joins the Nakhimov activating party

Probably the worst one after Kron but still

[sterile jolt]

Or tashkent

[atomic abyss]

Tash isn't bad at all

[wary robin]

esp with augment

[atomic abyss]

Since she got her augmet, her fairy lasts 100s

[sterile jolt]

I dont wanna mean tash is bad, just another option

[hollow gust]

Tashkent anti light dps is close enough to ddg , although voroshilov is much bulkier

[atomic abyss]

Yep^

The thing with Kazan or FS5 Chkalov is that you sacrifice a backline DPS slot

[hollow gust]

There is zero reason sacrificing a backline dps slot

[normal cedar]

we dont know the np tech points for kazan yet right

[atomic abyss]

The value? Don't think so
Shd be fairly good tho

[normal cedar]

woah thats crazy 200 pts

[atomic abyss]

Expected for SR BB

[wind hazel]

i was gona ask, is this correct lol

[atomic abyss]

Well

[plain saffron]

Probably, too lazy to check

[atomic abyss]

Soyuz gives like 268 I think?

[wind hazel]

NP has double point like IB too?

[atomic abyss]

So it doesn't look wrong

[dreamy blade]

chkalov is only 174

being a bit higher than a gold cv seems about right

[atomic abyss]

Somewhat off kek

[wind hazel]

seem accurate i guess, it's the same as rossiya

[plain saffron]

Never doubt CN

[spare mango]

what to do with coins? my coins almost hit the hard cap

and no ships to awaken

[wind hazel]

use for build in 6hours

[spare mango]

oh right maintenance day

[dreamy blade]

cat boxes

[spare mango]

no, not the catboxes

[atomic abyss]

Research

[honest stirrup]

why not cat

[wind hazel]

maybe a dog person

[atomic abyss]

We don't have wooficers in this game last I checked

[slow fox]

25% 5% heal for entire fleet (5% of Oleg max hp)

What does this mean on Oleg's skill?

[atomic abyss]

It's an rng skill
When it procs, 25% chance it's a heal

[slow fox]

25% chance to heal EVERY ship for 5% oleg?

[atomic abyss]

Oleg's every 12s barrage having 4 random options one of them being heal all ships for 5%

Yes

[slow fox]

That's crazy

That's average 8.7% heal!!

[eternal basalt]

It's a CL, and a 25% chance, so it's nice, buuuuuut...

[jaunty vault]

crazy?

[slow fox]

Updated eHP including healing and shields and smoke blah blah blah

[strong tartan]

i was once

[jaunty vault]

banned for spam

[strong tartan]

[jaunty vault]

is lil anchorage better than portland

[normal cedar]

so the ehp is ratio compared to portland retro? and the second number is.?

[oblique canyon]

Are ship skills/stats up anywhere that isn't video format yet?

[slow fox]

Yes. The second number is related to variance.

[jaunty vault]

pins, first link

[oblique canyon]

Thank you thank you

[atomic abyss]

So let's see

[slow fox]

With 99.7% certainty assuming all enemy bullets deal 60 damage, and if there are no shenanigans going on, ships will perform +- the second number.

[atomic abyss]

She's about as tanky as port kai

Her AA only loses to Sandy because no one is realistically using Isuzu Kai today

[jaunty vault]

3.2% better? kannapoggies

[slow fox]

We're talking about D7P, which is 0.26% better.

[jaunty vault]

🙏 🙏

[eternal basalt]

The difference of course is Portland is available for everyone, and Anchorage only for the people logging in the next 2 weeks and farms her points

[jaunty vault]

the variance is kinda high for everyone

[atomic abyss]

So to put it into perspective

[slow fox]

-# Industry secret: Everyone is an EVAtank.

[jaunty vault]

did they announce any compensation for the build tickets fuck up

[atomic abyss]

The first Dutch ship in the game
Has better AA than what the Germans, French, Italians and Russians have gotten in 7 years

That's hilarious

[eternal basalt]

#game-news

[atomic abyss]

Build extended till 27th

[eternal basalt]

Watch your event builds. Right event banner

[jaunty vault]

that's not compensation but ok ig

[sweet delta]

No compensation for the people who weren't trolled

[atomic abyss]

What kinda compensation did you expect

[eternal basalt]

All lost tickets are returned

[atomic abyss]

They already extended the build

[jaunty vault]

one cube

[slow fox]

I spent 6 cubes accidentally. I want my cubes back.

[strong tartan]

d7p was a later design and most of her suite was bofor pew pew

[jaunty vault]

I lost a cube

[strong tartan]

unplayable

[atomic abyss]

I mean the only German ship that comes close is Z52 anyways, and she's still not as good AA wise

And even that took 7 years

[normal cedar]

does that mean zeven procincein is good for world 15

[sweet delta]

You gain the cube back if you use build tickets for a day. You can also spread them out to gain back more cubes

[atomic abyss]

Far from the best, but she would be yes

[eternal basalt]

You get 3 extra days of +1 cube, free (provided you got the tickets)

[slow fox]

I can't believe the information is being mis

[sweet delta]

Assuming you don't build on tulipa banner for the first few days though

So basically your cube is lost forever

[atomic abyss]

Yes, it got differentiated into a square

[slow fox]

-# d/dS MENTIONED

[eternal basalt]

Use tickets till Frostfall dissapears, then build Dutch, +3 cubes compared to all of us

[normal cedar]

how good is the elite dutch ship? i was thinking of doing daily build on event banner instead of light

[atomic abyss]

Ass cos elite

It's quite same to assume any new elites are ass

[sweet delta]

Much worse than the recent Italian elites

[slow fox]

When this ship falls below 90% / 80% / 70% max HP (max 1 trigger per threshold per battle), self and all Vanguard Fleet ships +8% RLD, ACC.

Does this stack

[eternal basalt]

Stack with what? (Oh, it can trigger once per 90% but can trigger thrice? ). Assume it stacks or it has little points

[slow fox]

Yeah

[boreal wagon]

it should stack

[slow fox]

So when I hit 60% in one battle, I get 24% RLD

pog🇩🇪

[sweet delta]

69%

[jaunty vault]

nice

[slow fox]

It should have been 24% EVA but nOOoOo

[eternal basalt]

"stack": 3

[slow fox]

Cursed

[eternal basalt]

for 5s

[slow fox]

Oh, only lasts for 5s?

[eternal basalt]

Seems it does for the other ships, self last the whole battle; if I read this right (self starts at 100,90,80,70 but is maxed by 3 :/)

[boreal wagon]

it works exactly as stated and doesnt expire

[normal cedar]

does scyllas first skill also count for anti air obtained thr gear?

Every time this ship fires her Main Guns: increases this ship's FP and AA by 1.5% (5%) (can be stacked up to 6 times).
When this buff reaches the maximum stack: increases AA by 15% (25%) for your Vanguard ships with a lower AA stat than this ship until the battle ends.

it gives 25% more aa to vanguards with less aa than her, so will it be affected by her and recieving vanguard gear

or is it base aa for both scylla and recieving vanguard

[dreamy blade]

i believe it uses actual AA so gear and other ship skills that affect AA are taken into account

[normal cedar]

actual aa for both scylla and the other two vanguards? or scylla only

[dreamy blade]

for everyone

[normal cedar]

ok, thanks

[warped acorn]

why is destroyer (maybe) good

[cobalt rapids]

hulls matter little when looking at a ship

[warped acorn]

cuz torpedo? 🤔

[cobalt rapids]

cuz the game's hard content does not restrict per hull so we look at roles instead
the best torpedo ship rn is a heavy cruiser btw

[warped acorn]

hmmm ca

[sharp socket]

whats the prefix for the dutch ships

[boreal wagon]

in game it is HNLMS

[sharp comet]

there r only 2 gacha only ships this event?

[boreal wagon]

2 gacha, 1 map drop+shop+non rate up gacha, 1 point accum

[tame orchid]

Since the frost event is being extended, will we get both events to pull for?

[vocal sandal]

no ur ships this event?

[normal cedar]

no ur ships till may end anniversary

[vocal sandal]

oh bruh

[whole crypt]

it's roughly 8 fights for 1 affinity with MVP right?

[plain saffron]

1.6 ish
Wait no that's wrong number

[eternal basalt]

• NPC ship

[plain saffron]

0.01(or 0.03 i forgot) to 0.09 affinity per battle

So like 0.8 per 8 fights with mvp

[whole crypt]

so closer to 10 fights for 1?

that's easy for calc and rounding

[plain saffron]

Yeah

[whole crypt]

so that roughly translates to 1 affinity per hour of morale regen

[plain saffron]

Ok it's 0.03 not 0.01

[whole crypt]

yes it's just that usual thing every year for day7 oathing littles

[wind hazel]

believe it or not, straight to jail

[forest palm]

any of the new ships do anything interesting? or just tech fodder?

[whole crypt]

interesting tech fodder

[cobalt rapids]

dzp has good aa but its nothing new

[atomic abyss]

I believe CL hit

[cobalt rapids]

tied with guam

[atomic abyss]

Kazan has BB FP

Not tied, flat out better

[cobalt rapids]

guam has fleet aa buff

[forest palm]

I saw the tech stats, the DD disappoints once again

[late flame]

dd ehp meta when

[forest palm]

you do realize DD have a shit ton of HP tech right? and only about like 15% of that HP is from Lv 120 tech

[late flame]

omg indeed lol

[cobalt rapids]

maomao

[jaunty vault]

wife

[fluid pike]

tbh i feel that Kazan will be the big winner this event, I don't feel that tulipa has a unique enough identity at the moment apart from the elf/nature vibe.

[atomic abyss]

what

i mean, d7p is like, the joint 2nd best AA DPS in the game

only losing to sandy kai

[fluid pike]

Kazan is simply a solid garunteed barrage BB with slow and target heal. The new CL is a decent AA boat, but every faction has a few solid AA meta carry ships anyways

[atomic abyss]

a guaranteed barrage, that has no prioritised targetting, and will likely have low damage in practice

only the americans and japanese have a "few" good AA carry ships

the brits only have cheshire and her little version
the germans only have z52

the french, italians, russians have none

in fact the japanese only have isuzu and shimanto
maybe you can count maya too

[fluid pike]

Fair points but We dont really know the numbers on her barrage yet.

[atomic abyss]

also, being a gold BB in a UR BB meta is extremely rough

the "winner" is absolutely D7P

i need to double check kazan's barrage numbers, but i highly doubt they're going to be comparable to daisen/owari/izumo

[fluid pike]

If kazan has low barrage numbers she would still be in the upper half of most gold BBs, and if the damage is decent she goes to the top of gold rarity alongside top Collab BBs and the gold BBs with strong augments

[south sequoia]

There's not alot of ssr bbs in the first place either who can touch owari too
If you want to be a gold bb amongst the sea of urs you at least gotta be more than decent

[atomic abyss]

yes but again, what's the point of gold BBs in a UR meta

if you're not "the best" it really doesnt matter

[fluid pike]

waifu over meta

[atomic abyss]

sure, she'll be nice for newbies... but a newbie shouldnt be rolling now

[south sequoia]

While it is a rough statement, mind you a full deved fdg is much easier to obtain now compared to all those years ago

[atomic abyss]

i mean, if you view waifu over meta, sure by all means
but that's not the discussion we're having here

[fluid pike]

I mean Kazan is probably the big winner out of the picks on this event, and apart from the CL being a Hard AA carry, there is nothing that shakes up the meta

[atomic abyss]

she isnt - thats what i said

[atomic abyss]

^

[south sequoia]

no ones really a winner in the event if the rest of them lose

[atomic abyss]

about as tanky as portland retrofit, only loses to sandy kai in AA

[south sequoia]

It's like if you enter a competition... and come out with a participation trophy

Oh d7p is absolutely a winner

[atomic abyss]

she shakes up the meta because she provides a very strong alternative to players lacking Guam, Laffey 2 and Z52

sure she wont tank as well as them, but that can be compensated elsewhere

AA is the name of the game in high end campaign (outside w14)

[south sequoia]

How much better or comparable is she to cheshire

[atomic abyss]

significantly

[south sequoia]

Holy shit

[brave blade]

holy crap that's high

[atomic abyss]

3 AA mounts with 400+ AA will do that

[south sequoia]

That would also mean like a cheshire upgrade since cheshire is basically portland with huge aa

[atomic abyss]

the only snag is that, well she's still limited

[south sequoia]

Yep

So not that freely accessible

[atomic abyss]

and yeah being a BB healer after rafaello just came out is... just oof

let me double check how terrible her dps

i believe there was already some maff done by CN

Oh.

Well, that's hilarious

[fluid pike]

Hmm I guess I kind of glossed over her kit, so i did overlook her potential triple AA gun slots, so how bad is kazan then?

[atomic abyss]

Doria meta isnt a very high bar even

i would consider kazan a good gold BB because of her healing and support kit

but uh, being an ok BB healer, when unicorn and co are a thing hurts
a LOT

[fluid pike]

I mean she is at least a decent bit better than most non UR russian barrage BBs that came before and that is at least a win in my book

[atomic abyss]

unicorn has her preload to help with dmg

Is she though?

[brave blade]

now imagine her 1962 retrofit added

[atomic abyss]

i would need to see the numbers to be sure, though i wouldnt be surprised if she did outperform them

but that is an incredibly low bar

[oblique canyon]

I'm curious, do you think she's worse than Honoka?

[atomic abyss]

good for you if that's a win tho

[fluid pike]

I mean if you need a solid AA carry, sandy with just her retro is arguably still better even if her augment is still limited, since you can pick her up easily from new player rewards

[real laurel]

when does maintenance end?

[fluid pike]

2.5 hours

[atomic abyss]

her augment isnt limited so moot point
but see the issue with this argument is - you can only have 1 sandy kai

and even in w13 you want more than 1 AA carry

let alone in 15 when you want like, 3 or 4

[cobalt rapids]

thats not cn

[fluid pike]

Hmm sure you are entitled to your own viewpoints but i see that it is not going to be productive to continue trying to debate you so bye

[brave blade]

that was odd

[cobalt rapids]

that is pretty ironic

[brave blade]

anyways, worth giving a ring to D7P?

[atomic abyss]

i'm not the one that brought waifu over meta to the convo so

[cobalt rapids]

give rings to ur wifus

[atomic abyss]

[sterile jolt]

Waifu with ring, why not

[brave blade]

gave a ring to pensacola, the true waifu over meta

[late flame]

oath for stats

[urban grail]

Go wby the rule of thumbs, if u had to ask, u prolly shouldnt

[atomic abyss]

also, a bit weird that his first message in this channel was about kazan being the big winner

[late flame]

Big booba

[oblique canyon]

If you even consider a ring, just give her the ring. You love her

[normal cedar]

as someone who lacks all those, should I roll all cubes over 400 on this banner then? since I've heard world 13/14/15 is all about AA and laffey2/guam wont rerun till end of year
Or do you think for a new player with no ur, going for cn anniv ur and bis zwei would be better

[brave blade]

kazan seems alright but... we kinda have a little too many battleships

[zinc prairie]

UR incoming when?

[atomic abyss]

absolutely not

[honest stirrup]

probably next month for CN anniversary (or JP i forgor 💀)

[river junco]

It’s CN

[atomic abyss]

the fact is, as a new player, you wont even have the stuff needed to challenge w13+ for quite a while

[late flame]

CN Anni towards end of may

[atomic abyss]

unless you're specifically speed running ig

[normal cedar]

i see, thanks! I didn't wanted to roll on this banner anyways since there is no ur

[zinc prairie]

How much cube can one earn in a month just wondering since i'm severely lacking in cubes?

[atomic abyss]

min 168

with comms, around 200 at least

[urban grail]

Usually a UR banner comes up about every 3 months, just slowly build up your cubes and teams

[normal cedar]

i know, 4 times a year

[glossy granite]

What collab is this

[atomic abyss]

no collab

it's a proper event

[glossy granite]

I am so confused

[zinc cave]

new faction

[atomic abyss]

all they did was add the dutch navy

[glossy granite]

New faction?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[normal cedar]

is sandy solo carrying anti air in this comp? (its supposed to be a mob fleet for w13)

[glossy granite]

I really didnt expect a new faction at all, i love my elven girls regardless lol

[atomic abyss]

sandy and the entire backline yes

[glossy granite]

Wait its dutch fleet yes?

[atomic abyss]

that's like what, 9 fighters + sandy

brutal over heal if anything

[glossy granite]

Def didnt expect dutch lol, in my head i was thinking about a Scandinavian/Finnish

How am i supposed to save cubes bruh, i only got like 250 or 260

[atomic abyss]

dont roll then

[glossy granite]

Thats the thing, i want to

Im not blessed like y'all not ever needing to summon on rerun UR banners and ending with 2000 cubes

[rapid grail]

this fleet seems overkill for such task

but to answer your inquiry, yes. The CVLs contribute to AA as well with their AA guns on 3rd slot. Can use STAAGs or Roombas on them for extra AA (since AA mechanics are usually* averaged)

[atomic abyss]

(their fighters do a lot more than their AA guns but yes)

[normal cedar]

oh i see
are there any cv with double fighter slots? or is it always single fighter double bomber

[plush dust]

Guys. I need help. My Miller keeps dying so fast. I think she might have osteoporosis.

[atomic abyss]

langley, illustrious and her 2 variants, indomitable, implacable, hwah jah retro, have double fighter slots that give a total of 6 fighter slots
rumey has 2 fighter slots that can give her 8 fighters
centaur and albion have 2 fighter slots that give them 4 fighters in total
independence and unicorn have 1 fighter slot that gives them 4 fighters

[atomic abyss]

expected, she is extremely frail

she's probably not geared correctly either, she wants 2 HP auxiliaries

[plush dust]

Lovely how she's a front-lane dd with no defensive capabilities

[atomic abyss]

with the exception of 3, maybe 4 DDs

all of them are pretty frail

[late flame]

purple elites are mostly meh outside of few notable exceptions

[atomic abyss]

also that

[normal cedar]

oh, thanks I didnt know slots could have a ratio of more than 1:1 slot:fighter

[plush dust]

I ran out of golden burins

I'm sad now

[atomic abyss]

let me guess, using 2 fleets

[plush dust]

3

[late flame]

dafug

[atomic abyss]

only at 0 limit break do carriers have single planes in each slot

[honest sequoia]

is any other way to get york besides 7-2

[atomic abyss]

if you are a new player, consolidate all resources into 1 fleet only

so you avoid this case where you build shit fleets

[plush dust]

Kinda hard tho, already built my main

[atomic abyss]

how built is built

is it even a good fleet?

[atomic abyss]

york, or yorktown

[honest sequoia]

yea yorktown

[atomic abyss]

well

[plush dust]

90+ enty, nevada meta, unicorn. Santa fe, laffey, Indianapolis

[late flame]

I was beginning to wonder since when York dropped in W7 lol

[atomic abyss]

if i were you, i'd wait for a special UR build event

and then pray for yorktown

or farm her in w13

[atomic abyss]

indianapolis and neva meta are pretty questionable...

[honest sequoia]

i just want my elite manjuu 😭

[atomic abyss]

im going to bet the 2nd fleet is worse

[forest palm]

Little less than 2 hrs of expected maint, right?

[keen sable]

Yes you need more than 6 ships but that's mostly because you need to get rid of Indianapolis

[atomic abyss]

level 90+ isnt built tho

[plush dust]

I got her cuz I have no gold burins

[atomic abyss]

not when the level cap is 120+

[keen sable]

Farm foxes

[plush dust]

I'm at w7 still. Tho

[honest sequoia]

thats the advice i got 3 years ago

[atomic abyss]

then you shd ignore the other 2 fleets

w7 is too early to be building a 2nd fleet

[keen sable]

No problem D1 good

[late flame]

new players should also ignore meta(morphosis) ships especially purple ones

[atomic abyss]

i would recommend replacing indianapolis asap

[plush dust]

Ran out of oil. Been doing Polaris SP5 runs

[atomic abyss]

what even are your other 2 fleets

[plush dust]

Discarded ships. Mostly. Like Miller

[atomic abyss]

then why raise them

[keen sable]

Good stuff and better than not collecting from canteen because you don't play.

[plush dust]

Cuz the other ships are F tier

[atomic abyss]

no, why raise them at all

just focus on the first fleet

it's not like they're level 120 capped

also, replace indianapolis with portland then

[plush dust]

Bc I ran of gold burins

[late flame]

bet he invested in eugen

[atomic abyss]

who isnt max limit broken in the first fleet

[plush dust]

Everyone is maxed

[atomic abyss]

santa fe and enterprise are the only 2 SRs in the first fleet

[plush dust]

Just one burin

[atomic abyss]

so you shd have been able to max limit break them

if they are max limit broken, continue to raise them

[plush dust]

Then I got her in the discard fleet

[atomic abyss]

why does gold bulin shortage have anything to do with not raising the first fleet?

if they are all maxed

[plush dust]

Bc, reasons

[keen sable]

Why do you have intentionally bad discard fleets?

[plush dust]

Because if they are bad, they get discarded

[late flame]

flexing bad decisions in fleet making

[atomic abyss]

if they are bad, dont raise them at all

[keen sable]

Why invest in bad things at all. Shouldn't you invest in good things?

[atomic abyss]

if you are that low on resources, the LAST thing you should do is raise bad ships

invest in the relatively good first fleet

the only questionable bits are nevada meta and indianapolis anyways

[plush dust]

Nevada came free with a happy meal

[atomic abyss]

pennyslvania or nelson would be better

[late flame]

Technically Nevada meta still good further down the road, but not for a new player yah

[keen sable]

Penny freer. Even gives you a penny back.

[plush dust]

She's maxed now

[rare tundra]

Is the new rainbow eagle union aa any good?

[atomic abyss]

the best

[late flame]

My condolences

[plush dust]

Any with confetti gun

[rare tundra]

Confetti?

[viscid swift]

Sigh

[atomic abyss]

i have no idea what nonsense he is spewing with "confetti gun" as an answer

please ignore him

[late flame]

ditto

[plush dust]

Nevada Meta does three volleys. Confetti gun does aoe. Equip nevada meta with confetti gun. Planes are no more. Profit.

[atomic abyss]

aoe with no damage is pointless

it isnt even good at killing planes lol

[keen sable]

Oh umm if that floats your boat

[late flame]

Bro obviously skipped newbie guide

[plush dust]

Also, invest in reload equipment

[normal cedar]

what is he even talking about

[keen sable]

Oic

[late flame]

I can safely say that with all that bad fleet making you ain't qualified to be giving advices

[keen sable]

That's terrible advice

[atomic abyss]

dude, you're giving genuinely terrible advice

[viscid swift]

On so many levels

[keen sable]

Ignore them

[plush dust]

Don't LB Unicorn, LB a common DD first.

[jaunty vault]

lol

[viscid swift]

Fuck no

[sinful escarp]

okay, he is just trolling

[keen sable]

They don't even use the same stuff...

[late flame]

Speedrun helpban any%

[atomic abyss]

Look, if you genuinely do not know much about the game, please do not give advice at all.

[plush dust]

Now, if you excuse me, I'm making go play the game. I will definitely not level Sevastapol.

||Do not level Sevastapol||

[honest sequoia]

i hope thats a ragebait

[frank pulsar]

just ignore

[late flame]

Bro probably butthurt at his subpar fleet making skills

[sinful escarp]

also if anyone missed, game is up according to the ping in #game-news

[atomic abyss]

Yes, please do so. In #al-general. Not here, if you cant help but spew bad advice.

[honest sequoia]

Is this a daily thing or a one time

[sinful escarp]

daily

[honest sequoia]

[late flame]

or when you run out of skill books

[wind hazel]

wtf game is up

[normal cedar]

I assume the reccomended priority for that is using up purple and blue books first?

[whole crypt]

wait did it always say how many times you have left for the day or is htis a new thing

[wind hazel]

always did

[late flame]

always

[whole crypt]

[atomic abyss]

no, rainbow first, then gold

because it instant completes whatever book you use

why would you use a shorter book?

[normal cedar]

I want to avoid crafting them to gold, else getting rid of those will take a while so maybe I thought that would be recommended
so I should go rainbow gold and so on?

[atomic abyss]

you are saving 12h, compared to saving 2h or 4h

so yes, highest rarity first

[atomic abyss]

you can save 120h a day, compared to saving 20h a day

[whole crypt]

I mean it can depend on your book stock

obviously you can't push all rainbow or gold books if you'll run out

[normal cedar]

I only have 2 fleets whose skills I can do, so should I keep some gold books for future ships or use them all up
I have around 30 gold of each

[whole crypt]

you'll keep getting more books anyway

[atomic abyss]

max out the skills of the ships you use

when you're done, then come back and ask

this instant skill trng thing is limited

[honest sequoia]

is it ok to leave my main gun at +11/+12 or just leave at +10 and wait till i have enough plates to make +13 at once

[tame orchid]

I have 20 cubes should i pull for dutch ships or wait for the upcoming URs

[honest sequoia]

save

[tame orchid]

Aight

[storm olive]

How good is de zeven aa?

[atomic abyss]

leave it at +10 if you cant +13
cos the gains from +10 to +11 and +12 are small compared to +12 to +13

[atomic abyss]

top 3 in the game
level with guam, only worse than sandy

*guam is level with her in practice because she buffs fleet AA as well

[silk helm]

are event shops not a thing anymore?

[tame orchid]

Wot

They are?

[wind hazel]

there's event shop...

[silk helm]

nvm i see it, the past two didnt right?

[hollow gust]

[atomic abyss]

it so happens the last 2 events were raid events
those dont have shops
the current does

[silk helm]

ty, i just need dem cog chips

[ripe peak]

whats zevens build time?

[hollow gust]

Check pins

[wind hazel]

wow frostfall free 20 gold plate. best raid rerun ever

[atomic abyss]

not "free"

[atomic abyss]

we were supposed to get them DURING the event milestones

[ripe peak]

its blank for me.

[wind hazel]

nvm what a trash rerun

[atomic abyss]

so they gave us 20 selectors instead

[atomic abyss]

not there

[silk helm]

lmao the event before the rerun was even worse

[ripe peak]

ah ty

[atomic abyss]

just use the drills like a normal person

1:25

fucking scam timing

[wind hazel]

why do people even ask for these timing

[atomic abyss]

tho i guess

[silk helm]

they like to know what theyre gunna get

[wind hazel]

you guys actually see the timing before hitting the quick finisher or what

[atomic abyss]

belfast cant appear in special anymore so ig it's fine?

[sinful escarp]

they build 1 at a time maybe

[silk helm]

no coins to build 10

[wind hazel]

Paris Hilton: stop being poor

jk im poor too

[silk helm]

okay chat, i finished all ships in pr7 do i stay for LA 9 im at 31 right now

[viscid swift]

Yes

[silk helm]

okok ty D7P has 3 AA gun mounts

i ksipped pr6 btw, idk if that changes anything

[hollow gust]

Finish one season at a time

[silk helm]

finish = gear too ?

thats gunna take a long ass time with my luck

[atomic abyss]

well, now you can focus on rigging analysis

so that shd speed up the progress

[sonic maple]

Hi. I cant enter the game. Anyone facing same issue

[plush dust]

Did 15 pulls and got nothing. This is joever. Manjuu karma.

[wind hazel]

deserved

[sonic maple]

It says login successfully then nothing

[hollow gust]

Even the worst luck should get it within 4-5 months

[atomic abyss]

talk about stuff like that in #al-general please
this isnt a general chat channel

[sinful escarp]

did you try closing the game fully and then opening again?

[silk helm]

is it a strat to not finish 1 ship in a season so u can keep face research out of the selection?

[atomic abyss]

no, that's a very silly strat

[silk helm]

rlly? more face = less rigging

[atomic abyss]

the chance of any one face research appearing doesnt change

you misunderstand how it works

[silk helm]

oh

q and g it is

[atomic abyss]

there's a fixed chance for a face research to appear
now which face research that is varies

[warped acorn]

is evertson good or just for collection purpose

[storm olive]

You get the same amount of face research regardless of it being spread across 5 or one ship

[atomic abyss]

elite, so collection only

[normal cedar]

does the event hardmode count for hard daily mission?
is it limited to 3 times per day like campaign?
does it drop retro prints?

[little tree]

Whats the speculation on the new SR ships

[silk helm]

theyre SR ships

[little tree]

[storm olive]

Do any of the event ships give good tech

[weak moat]

Guys as a new player is it worth doing the event banner 3 times a day so leaning 6 cubes total

[atomic abyss]

in other words
eg: 20% chance for any face research
say they all have equal chances to appear (lets ignore the fact DRs appear less)
so chance is like, 4% each if there's 5
if you complete 1, then it's 5% each
if you only have 1 left, then it's 20% chance of any research being that one

the fact is, it doesnt change it's still 20% chance for ANY face research to appear

[atomic abyss]

no, do 1x light build a day, save for UR event in may

[silk helm]

roger that, ty Ender

[warped acorn]

prob she better than unicorn if theres retrofit and the hp % recover is upgradable?

[weak moat]

So don’t summon on event banner?

[atomic abyss]

D7P is top 3 AA DPS
Kazan is a worse Rafaello

[atomic abyss]

correct

[weak moat]

So when do we summon on event only if there is ticket?

[little tree]

I will pull fo4 them i got 800 cubes

[atomic abyss]

SR ships rarely if ever get retrofits, and the ones that do are all the old year 0 SRs

the heals are good, i wont deny that

[warped acorn]

interesting

[atomic abyss]

but... rafaello exists

we literally just got a BB healer 2 months ago

and kazan's damage is dogwater

[atomic abyss]

for non UR events, yes
for UR events, all in till you get the UR

[warped acorn]

so its understandable why a sr is free

[hollow gust]

Raffey isn't a healer though lmao

[silk helm]

so d7p wil be good for ch12? since its anti air?

[hollow gust]

No? There is always a SR in shop

[atomic abyss]

i mean, we get free SR pretty often
doesnt meant they're shit

[whole crypt]

you can do ch12 with much worse AA

[atomic abyss]

w12 is piss easy
you can do it with no AA
but yes she'll be VERY good in w13 and w15

[whole crypt]

she might be good for 13 and 15 though

[silk helm]

kk ty, ive just been farming c1

[atomic abyss]

i mean you get the point, there's just little point using her over... a unicorn

[silk helm]

guys c1 is OP cuz u get more UR gear prints

[atomic abyss]

tho i suppose for people like you, she'd be pretty good to have for raising frontliner tech

i think people were thinking you were talking about EVENT C1

and not, corrosion 1 maps in opsi

[whole crypt]

c1 doesn't drop squat it's a poor man's XP farm

[silk helm]

o..

well u stack like 16k ap and send c5 at the end of the month

u will get something if ur luck is not booty

[whole crypt]

if you like spending hours in OS I guess

[atomic abyss]

c3 or c5

would be better

c1 is for try hards

[storm olive]

Spending hours tabbed out playing other games

[whole crypt]

I only do c1 early in month for adapts

[silk helm]

im sweaty, i started playing too late so i dont have good ur ships

[whole crypt]

you just need to keep playing consistently you end up with more materials than needed eventually anyway not much point doing excessive farming

[atomic abyss]

it's not just about being sweaty

it's about reaching the point where that is actually better than the alternative

[whole crypt]

and honestly even if you farm up AP with c1 the drop rates from cat dives are pretty meh

[atomic abyss]

you can try hard all you want, but if you arent even at the point where C1 grinding is worth it, why do it

[silk helm]

so true guys

i just want to be able to flex that i have lots of UR AA gun from gear lab

[atomic abyss]

and C1 wont help your progress

[hollow gust]

[storm olive]

Is raff enough for w15 mob to not need an Aquila that I don't have

[atomic abyss]

no

[honest sequoia]

how is c1 beneficial?
i thought were told to farm c3 or c5

[whole crypt]

farming AP

[silk helm]

[atomic abyss]

sub aquila for volga or zuihou

[whole crypt]

then you farm C3/C5 with said AP

it's honestly not really worth the time or effort

[silk helm]

yuh, if u lock in, u can stack 80+ yellow boxes

[storm olive]

Zuihou it is then

[whole crypt]

except its not something you can do AFK because you need to stop on scamcat and manually buy

[honest sequoia]

what if you dont get akashi shop in c1 for every run tho-

[silk helm]

its rng

[whole crypt]

you don't, but on average if you're running a couple thousand AP in it you will gain AP

[warped acorn]

whats the main stuff to buy at event shop

[hollow gust]

Spending tens of hours extra just for 2k more vouchers

[silk helm]

sometimes u get scamcat and they dont even have yellow boxes

[honest sequoia]

ive been farming c3 and akashi only sells me special token

atp idek if i should farm c3 or c5 anymore

[whole crypt]

I mean if you want tryhard we won't stop you, we're just telling you it's not really worth the trouble

[undone plover]

If u can grind a bit more c3 is better
If u want to be done fast c5 is better

[silk helm]

why c3 better?

[undone plover]

But it is a bit early to zero out on AP tbh
Save like 400-500 AP for dailies and strongholds and potential abyssal/hidden coords

[whole crypt]

c3 supposedly more cat dive/ap on average

[undone plover]

More run = more akashi spawns

[honest sequoia]

if akashi doesnt sell AP boxes for example
then would c5 be better?
or c3 just give more mats

[silk helm]

can u get ur prints from c3?

[whole crypt]

yes

but it's RNG

[silk helm]

wtf... ive been doing it wrong...

[whole crypt]

you're wasting your time trying to be sweaty

[undone plover]

It is equal cat nodes/AP from what I know
C3 cant be worse than c5

[warped acorn]

based on my team, whats the possibility/who might generated that shield?

[undone plover]

But if u compare c3 with bad akashi shops and c5 with good akashi shops then c5 will be better
but that is not a fair comparison

[warped acorn]

portland?

[whole crypt]

none of them

[atomic abyss]

nelson's flag

[silk helm]

😦

[glossy granite]

Wait can Ägir be enchanced beyond dev30?

[late flame]

Nope

[honest sequoia]

so technically their still somewhat same?

[warped acorn]

oh

[atomic abyss]

no

[honest sequoia]

she has no FS yet

[glossy granite]

Ohhhh i thought all ships had it

[undone plover]

Statistically on average C3 is double the amount of akashis
So it is always better on average

Rest is rng

[atomic abyss]

see pins

[whole crypt]

the game rewards consistent play and it also rewards reasonably dense play
it's absolutely not rewarding for excessive play

[oblique canyon]

Wait am I missing out on a lot of stuff not farming OpSi secure zones after I finish everything?

[glossy granite]

Thank god cuz i just finished ägir and now i would def need some builds 😅

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research#Enhancing_with_Coins

[undone plover]

Not really
Farming opsi secured zones with excess AP gives the least amount of rewards
But it is better than nothing

[silk helm]

commander xp

[tranquil dagger]

Who should I grab?

[uncut wren]

I have 400 pity should i get another Copy of shinano that i have or get another UR?

[oblique canyon]

Oh good, I barely get enough time to burn oil during the week let alone spam opsi

[wind hazel]

shinano not mlb=get more shinano

[whole crypt]

Shinano if you still need to LB

[undone plover]

Shinano if u grabbed her until MLB
Vanguard also decent pick up and easier to use than shinano

[late flame]

Opsi can be auto if you has logger

[uncut wren]

I have already maxed vanguard

[atomic abyss]

this is decent
can use a worse torp if your mag torps are stuck on better things

[whole crypt]

vast majority of rewards are in loggers, coords, strongholds etc
also clearing daily missions add up
just plainly farming secured doesn't add much

[wild sinew]

Oh both elves are have healing

[zenith heron]

On First thoughts about Mini Anchor, she's just basically Anchor but less Self Evasion buffs...

but is she considerable to be a Normal Tank and some Team Durability?

[oblique canyon]

Ya i usually just full clear the map, take care of arbiters strongholds and hidden then stop for the month, good to know I'm not missing out on a ton

[whole crypt]

there's basically no reason to use Little Anchorage besides memes she adds no tech

[glossy granite]

I dont have that main gun sadly lmao

[undone plover]

Mebot had her around portland level ehp I think which is decent
But loli ships give no tech so there is an opportunity cost to raising them

[atomic abyss]

that's... agir's gun from series 4 tho

[glossy granite]

😅

[wild sinew]

Well she best serve as dorm girl or ur secretary :3

[wind hazel]

it's good if you're a new player

[atomic abyss]

brest gun is kinda ass

[whole crypt]

if you genuinely need another tank than Portland but have no options on hand then Little Anchorage is a short term solution - but she's also going to be NPC for a week which is basically useless for farming

[atomic abyss]

she's a portland that has no tech

[tranquil dagger]

Is Shinano a good first UR?

[late flame]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

the best out of the permanent URs

[wild sinew]

Shinano is almost permanent CV boss comp

[undone plover]

It is between her and vanguard
Vanguard is easier to use and can be better if u have 1-2 other UR BBs and no amagi(cv)/haku

[tranquil dagger]

Got it

I'll just grab Shinano, I got two UR bulins as well

[zenith heron]

Also out of the topic

But Am I being weird to consider Unzen as a tank? I hope not (I know this is just ehp, but it made me curious)

[undone plover]

Save the bulins for the new UR

[tranquil dagger]

Gotcha

[wild sinew]

Unzen is a torp focused CA

[south sequoia]

She's at most a sub tank, she can sponge some hits but she'll struggle when she is the one mainly taking everything

[undone plover]

She is tanky and can tank certain content
But she is not really an end game tank

[atomic abyss]

well, yes, pretty weird
but as the saying goes
if you dont need a tank, why worry if she is one or not

[whole crypt]

damn slot req all BBs

which is the lowest RLD BB

[storm olive]

Collab bbv, then Nevada Oklahoma

[whole crypt]

nidaime?

[wild sinew]

Oh each stage has different fleet requirement now huh
In event hard mode

[whole crypt]

nvm BBV can't fit so Nevada

oh wait Mujina

[storm heron]

are the ships new faction or collab?

[cobalt rapids]

new faction

[normal cedar]

I did the grave mistake of thinking the SP battle was going to be a single boss fight, and went in with a single fleet. I now witness 10+ siren enemies on screen. How many are we supposed to beat? Will retreat cause me to lose my daily 1 chance?

[stark quiver]

kill it all, or at lesat until boss spawans
and no

[glossy granite]

Do we know the construction times for the new ships

[normal cedar]

alright, thanks!!

[whole crypt]

you won't lose the attempt just go out and come back in with 2 fleets, it's like 7 or 8 mob kills before boss

[wind hazel]

i know, but i wont tell you

jk i tell you

[glossy granite]

Ty ty

[wild sinew]

How many stage this event has

[normal cedar]

D3 is basically HT3 right

[blissful hamlet]

zeven provincien any good?

[hollow gust]

Better then your loli Janus

[wind hazel]

💀

[honest sequoia]

[wind hazel]

zeven strong AA, that's it

[blissful hamlet]

can we keep the ironic outside gph please

[hollow gust]

[blissful hamlet]

sandy killer

[wind hazel]

nah, sandy still unmatched

[inner idol]

[paper walrus]

Has everyone gotten back all the shipbuilding support tickets that were lost due to a bug? I only got back 2 instead of 8 i think

[blissful hamlet]

zeven is hotter

[late flame]

i got zero since i used them up at reset so i wasnt bugged

[wind hazel]

your auntie hotter

[glossy granite]

And you can just start directly on hardmode yes?

[paper walrus]

I have 800 cubes im not gonna bother contacting support for 6 pulls im just wondering if its just me

[whole crypt]

I think one of the missions do need you to do T3 though

[wild sinew]

She a good aa cl that can heal just by swatting plane

[left cedar]

we alkready know tech stats ?

[viscid swift]

yes

120 tech is +1 CL reload(d7p), +1 CL hit, +1 BB FP and +1 DD HP

[green galleon]

Just what's Aquila build that were highly used?

[normal cedar]

for HT3, can we change the mandatory DD location from tank to something else?

[boreal wagon]

yes click adjust and drag

[normal cedar]

alright, thanks

[cobalt gate]

if I do easy 1 would I still unlock hard 2?

[frank pulsar]

for campaign, double bomb fighter + torpedo bomber
for fighters, flapjack > tigercat > hellcat > corsair (purple)
for tb, wyvern = spearfish > breguet > barracuda

[crimson glacier]

so any of them new ships good

[green galleon]

What's tb?

[frank pulsar]

torpedo bomber, i just got lazy to spell it out

[rapid grail]

torpedo bombers. Barracudas, purplr TBM Avengers, etc.

[green galleon]

Alright thanks!

[ocean herald]

Hard T1 and T2 have oil cost?

[viscid swift]

yes

[crimson glacier]

doesnt every map have oil cost

[viscid swift]

oil cap? no

[ocean herald]

Oh, yes oil cap, thx

[cobalt gate]

thanks

[normal cedar]

is it normal for a single sortie on HT-3 to cost 267 on oil cap? The datamine seems to suggest something else

[late flame]

have you cleared the map?

[normal cedar]

yes, it is showing me cost limit icon on the bottom

[sleek flower]

its mob//boss/sub

6 mob + 1 boss and the 10 oil cost for sortie

[normal cedar]

I see, is there any way to reduce cost further in my case? fleet 1 is both mob and boss here and no subs

[fiery swan]

Why are there 2 event banner

[wind hazel]

#game-news

[sleek flower]

only if you use lower oil cost ships

[atomic abyss]

no, 267 is pretty normal

[normal cedar]

i see, I'll proceed with it then
thanks!

[dusky cloak]

who is the fleet 1 bb slot

[atomic abyss]

maryland retro

[whole crypt]

267 is 10 oil entry + 6 x 35 mob + 47 boss

[fleet berry]

I usually run T2 for low-costing with Ranger/Cassin/Downes, and Alsace/Musashi/Amagi CV/Kronk/Shimakaze/Guam for the x-fleet.

Tried T3 earlier and seems like x-fleet timing matches the boss timing, but it's a bit too tight to my liking. Any other x-fleet recommendation?

[wind hazel]

soyuz instead of amagi

[whole crypt]

this worked for T3

[fleet berry]

ACV won't be a problem for the stage, right.

[whole crypt]

nope

[viscid swift]

shouldn't be

[woven star]

so DeZeven front line healer. interesting

[atomic abyss]

uh no, she isnt

[soft raft]

Isnt DeZeven a BB

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

no she's a CL

kazan is the BB

D7P is CL

[fleet berry]

Understood, thanks guys.

[soft raft]

oh

[atomic abyss]

and D7P heal is cope

[woven star]

When an enemy aircraft is shot down within the AA circle, trigger a Lv.10 special barrage and heal lowest HP% ship by 3% of their max HP (10s cooldown between activations);
that's seems not best but at least interesting

[atomic abyss]

25% chance every 12s to heal everyone for 5% of her HP

[hollow gust]

That's not healing shit

[atomic abyss]

the REAL healer is kazan

not d7p

[soft raft]

It looks interesting until you consider the amount of places where planes would actually be common enough to get maxinum usage

Which is not really much
W12, W13, and W15, but at W15 you probably wont be using her at all

[atomic abyss]

D7P is an AA carry

not a frontline healer

saying she's a frontline healer is like saying Brest is a frontline healer

[soft raft]

meanwhile Unicorn having a way better heal that isnt locked behind conditions

[viscid swift]

ehh, if you don't have all the other top AA ships she's a good option

[knotty garnet]

The datamine doesnt show the map drops. what are the map drops

[viscid swift]

you're looking at overall the 3rd best AA ship in the game

[atomic abyss]

yep

[viscid swift]

and she's not made of paper either

[atomic abyss]

port kai level tankiness

[whole crypt]

if you're asking about gear it's a shit drop list

[atomic abyss]

she actually beats guam in individual AA output
just that guam boosts fleet AA

[white agate]

there is no ex stage?

[woven star]

seems so

[normal cedar]

wait what, isuzu is that goated? you mean the blue retro cl?

[atomic abyss]

she is goated in AA and nothing else

[whole crypt]

she isn't she's just good at AA

[viscid swift]

yeah, but she's made out of paper among other things

[hollow gust]

Well shes utter dogshit in everything else , so don't use her

[atomic abyss]

hits like paper too

[normal cedar]

i see, just an anomaly then

[fleet berry]

Also, oathing won't improve x-fleet damage that significantly, right?

[whole crypt]

not significantly

[lyric moon]

What should I put on the two new elf ships weapon wise? I still struggle with gearing 😦

[hollow gust]

[normal cedar]

is vanguard damage distributed over 3 ships? If I run only 1 ship in vanguard will it take more damage compared to running 3

[silk helm]

standard new player guns

[slow fox]

Fumo instead of toolkit
Opinion disregarded

[knotty garnet]

shbl

[hollow gust]

I'm gonna run full dps to spite you

[atomic abyss]

not equally

leftmost takes the most, middle takes least

it's not "distributed"

it's just more or less likely to get hit

[woven star]

....if all ships at same level, or near. but yes mechanic work at this way

[normal cedar]

I see, so it shouldnt necessarily cause more damage taken running only tank in vanguard

[whole crypt]

level has nothing to do with physical contact with bullets

[atomic abyss]

sth like this as poverty standard for d7p
evertsen is a meme

[slow fox]

I did some testing last month arbiter. Looked like 0.5/0.25/0.25

[stone sluice]

Any ship from new event that has good tech?

[whole crypt]

the question is do you have a good reason to run solo vanguard

[atomic abyss]

kazan has BB FP
thats all thats notable

i wouldnt consider CL Hit notable

[woven star]

sp easy 1:1

[lyric moon]

I just like elves and wanted to use eversten haha also cause z23 my only destroyer but thank ya

[atomic abyss]

and z23 is better

you shdnt choose ships by hull type anyways

[woven star]

and for boss and mobs fleet 1

[whole crypt]

I'm not bothering to save what, 10 oil for 20s

there's only 1 DD this event right?

[woven star]

it's more question of time, not oil

[whole crypt]

yes and a 0 ammo z52 fleet takes longer

I'm using Musashi/Unzen for boss

guess I'll just level evertsen then

[woven star]

btw LilAncho for new players maybe not worse choice

[whole crypt]

it's a horrible choice

[atomic abyss]

...except no tech and barely tankier than port kai

[late flame]

+unusuable for a week anyway

[atomic abyss]

this isnt like nano nano

[whole crypt]

you can still level and LB her but you can't cog and you can't put in dorm so no morale bonus

also yes to no tech

[atomic abyss]

at least with nano nano

she actually has 9 planes, which is more than almost every carrier in the game

[woven star]

no tech no retro

[late flame]

no aug

[woven star]

otherwise no rookie quest

[late flame]

i just remembered i took my time levelling collabs because lack of materials to max out augments

[woven star]

is data-mine not full about lilAncho? not necessary but seems near +15% FP buff after torp laucnh

[whole crypt]

what do you mean not full

[woven star]

ah eng. translation... in jp something about this has

15秒内自身炮击属性提升15.0%
and here
When this ship fires her Torpedoes, drop a smokescreen and trigger a Lv.10 special barrage (all ships within smokescreen +40% EVA Rate, smokescreen lasts for 5s and doesn't stack with other smokescreens).

And here

[whole crypt]

datamine has CN text there I guess translator missed it

[mild sail]

The fastest way and cheapest to do event is A1-A2-A3-B1-B2 then D3 then SP right?

[viscid swift]

there's only 3 stages

[woven star]

anyway not so important

[whole crypt]

not this event but yes

but lately there's been some shit like C3 or B3 clear mission so you might need to check to be sure you didn't miss anything

this one has missions for both T3 and HT3

[late flame]

oh right just saw it

[mild sail]

I haven't check the stage layout this time

[woven star]

btw not found daily bonus so if I'm not blind T1-T2 no reason to do if can did hard

[whole crypt]

this is an SP format there's no daily bonus

[mild sail]

Oh damn

[whole crypt]

you can save some oil doing T1 T2 low cost

[woven star]

or T3 if can handle with low cost

[whole crypt]

for clearing that is, for grinding I'm just sticking to HT3

you can low cost T3 I just don't want to spend time there

[normal cedar]

hows the exp gain at hard t-3 compared to 11-1? roughly how much % less do you think

[atomic abyss]

at least 20% less

typically, the final event map has around the same exp as w10

[woven star]

I'm waiting for wiki update.... exp/coin per oil... to decide what to do next

[wary skiff]

does akagi u give fleet tech points for sakura?

[atomic abyss]

muse ships do not give tech

[viscid swift]

no

[whole crypt]

I don't see the problem with just doing HT3 and be done with it

[atomic abyss]

neither do little ships

[wary skiff]

do they atleast give combat exp for faction 😭

[atomic abyss]

yes

[viscid swift]

yes

[wary skiff]

salvageable

[woven star]

want save oil... finishing event in 3 days with low cost team and back to 12-4 coin farm

[viscid swift]

if you want to save oil do 4 oil T3

[whole crypt]

if you want to seriously low cost it then do T3 but I don't have that sort of time to waste anymore

[sterile jolt]

Till you get 55k points?

[vale spindle]

Datamine updated ty

[woven star]

60... maybe... to greedy even if I can get elites bulins

[normal cedar]

is doing T3 at 148 oil better than HT3 at 267? I'll get more currency that way if the event aint worth much for exp and coins anyways

[viscid swift]

no

[sterile jolt]

No

[whole crypt]

why do T3 at 148 oil when you can do it at like 30 oil

[viscid swift]

if you're going to do T3 it's full low cost or bust

[woven star]

halved coins and exp... or near it

[elfin hollow]

How the fuck do I beat this, my shit isn’t build for this :(

[normal cedar]

low cost is ranger cassin lvl 70? without crossfleet possible?

[viscid swift]

yes

[forest jasper]

only laffey in vanguard?

[normal cedar]

without*

[woven star]

stop, 148 oil low cost? 34..no?

[whole crypt]

levels
LB
gear

[viscid swift]

no

[vale spindle]

Whats the event format is it normal C D but just renamed to T and HT

[viscid swift]

no

[whole crypt]

if you're new-ish just grind HT3

[woven star]

yes 34 T3

[normal cedar]

what does HT3 give other than coins though
all my main fleet ships are nearly 120 anyways
Ill get to world 12 soon too

[whole crypt]

same as last SP event 3 stages with norm/hard

then level other ships

[vale spindle]

so no clearing rewards then?

[whole crypt]

if you're out of ships to level then whatever

hard has oil cap and standard clearing reward

[viscid swift]

well at that point you can start leveling replacements in Ht3

[normal cedar]

I see, Ill do that then, level fleet 2 by mixing with fleet 1

[viscid swift]

or start looking grinding XP for PRs, getting tech, etc

[whole crypt]

I'm just slightly annoyed by HT3 because I basically have no option but to level Evertsen now but might as well I guess

[sterile jolt]

Why?

[whole crypt]

PvP matches lasting 40s?

[sterile jolt]

5% from oneshot is terrible 😄

[hollow gust]

If you want to run a stall fleet

[whole crypt]

honestly it looks more useful for lethal lategame

as a toolkit replacement when your fights can stretch over 40s

or fights lasting at least around 40s I guess

any shorter you shouldn't be needing the dmgred anyway

[normal cedar]

I was thinking of going cog chips, arrays, gold blueprints, and mlb kazan thr shop+drop
anything else worth priority in shop? I already have purple gear so I wont do boxes

[whole crypt]

rainbow prints

[normal cedar]

its only 10 though, not much...

[whole crypt]

still a day or 2 of research

or spare proto cores

[sterile jolt]

10 is better than 0 -_-/

[whole crypt]

Kazan if you really grind enough and want to save bulins I guess but I can't say I recommend it

[vale spindle]

alright i found a past event with similar format thanks

[normal cedar]

augment module core not a priority right? I already have 16 of them and have no need for aug rn

[sweet delta]

Augment materials are a huge bottleneck if you want to collect all unique augments

And even if you only want the meta ones, 16 is very 🤏

[whole crypt]

which event was it I can't remember

[normal cedar]

hmm I see, I'll get it if possible then towards the end
thanks a lot!

[vale spindle]

interlude of illusions, not sure if there are others but thats the first event with the format i saw so i rolled with it

i found it just by searching HT1 in the wiki search

[whole crypt]

ah right I was fairly sure it was something from last year but can't remember which one

[vale spindle]

update its the only one outside of current event with that format

[normal cedar]

oh btw what about shop oil? do you net gain oil from it for the oil spent on getting those points

[sweet delta]

yes unless you play T3 with like 148 oil maybe

[normal cedar]

yea, I'll do ht-3 so I think its useless, I'll maybe break even so Ill pass

[sweet delta]

Buying oil from event shops is a huge net positive if you farm with it

[little tree]

[normal cedar]

oh yeah, wait it is by 40-50%
sorry, thanks!

Also, why is our guild not starting the next operation..? @sweet delta It's been a few days since we finished last

[sweet delta]

2 ops per month, you joined during the second op of April

[normal cedar]

Oh I see, didn't know that
thanks again

[hollow gust]

Ewww a sushi guild member

[sweet delta]

I don't own a guild

[honest sequoia]

[sweet delta]

The longer the battle is, the worse bouquet is

It is indeed strictly better than toolkit for campaign mob

[vale spindle]

its better than toolbox if battle is under 40s and if your healer can heal once before that time ends (which is the case with unicorn retro)

[digital pivot]

So this is a theoretical but since it involves gameplay, I need to know:
So DZP has AA+1 right? And her torpedo slot can be switched to another AA gun so that'd be AA+2 right? So if she uses the Shimanto gun that gives a special AA gun, could that theoretically give DZP AA+3 since her other AAs are all natural, if I'm understanding correctly

[vale spindle]

that is correct, you would have a total of 4 AA mounts

is that worth using shimanto gun? probably not id imagine

[atomic abyss]

without shimanto gun, she's already 2nd/3rd best

[sweet delta]

The fourth AA mount is really weak

[atomic abyss]

only loses to sandy
and guam when accounting for fleetwide buff

[orchid reef]

how good is the little anchorage compared to portland retro, is she better?

[digital pivot]

I probably wasn't going to use it anyway but theoretically having 4 AA guns is very funny

[atomic abyss]

ever so slightly tankier, but no tech, no luck and needing to actually raise her skills all make her a worse investment

[sweet delta]

Worse damage, same tankiness, no tech, no rookie missions

[orchid reef]

frick

[woven star]

I'm waiting for a ship with first AA gun slot... heh, never get it

[whole crypt]

huh how does d7p get 4 mounts

[atomic abyss]

the 4th is the shimanto gun mount

[whole crypt]

meh

[sweet delta]

:shimantohavingit:

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately that emote is shimakaze and not shimanto

[sweet delta]

That emoji existed once upon a time

Also how did my 3 oil die to T2 mob

Are there subs?

[woven star]

out of ammo?

[honest sequoia]

at what minimum dev lvl can ply function?
or does she need dev30

[atomic abyss]

she can function as a buffer from like d20

dps needs d30

tho if you're gonna use her pre 30, might as well use z52

[honest sequoia]

i have no z52 same goes to rumey

[sweet delta]

T3 with 148 oil would make a profit in event points. The cutoff is 177 oil per sortie

[whole crypt]

but you could probably still go significantly cheaper even without cross

[wind hazel]

if only T3 drops kazan

[normal cedar]

so should I do 148? I calculated, if I to Hard-3, Ill get 40k points in 2 weeks and T-3 will give me 60k
Oil/week calc based on samheart calcs