gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

have you checked your eyes

[eternal moth]

Have you?

[wind hazel]

have you?????????

[stark quiver]

beefin over nothing bruh 😭

[wind hazel]

😭

[steep sleet]

I will read both links

[wind hazel]

they are the same. slaimuda one is easier to digest

[eternal moth]

It looks like it's a lot of the same info, so just go with the one Mori posted.

I actually hadn't seen that yet

[wind hazel]

but sam has a lot of other useful guide in the site, like for gear https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment do check them out to understand the game better

and do not follow slaimuda's "newbie guide"

newbie tips ✅
newbie guide ❎

[hollow gust]

Ricest won't delete the newbie guide until he has a replacement

[wind hazel]

fox miner still exist 2025 because of it 😭

[stark quiver]

fox mines in the big 25

[olive geyser]

what AP BB main gun is good? non rainbow ones

[honest sequoia]

Champ gun

aka prototype 406mm

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1331118351103033436/50B724B5-06AB-4470-B367-060D2973960C.png?ex=68032691&is=6801d511&hm=df3ead0b1c954140f9a643e1136cb2801c94ccc00a1bae350005b5f266177bf3&

[olive geyser]

[honest sequoia]

isnt that 380mm kinda a bit bad

[wind hazel]

no it's a sidegrade

[honest sequoia]

[woven star]

In some content it help you to make one more last shot with lack of bbs rld

[stoic badge]

I've been trying to farm 15-4 with this as a boss fleet (fights all 3 bosses), but the vanguard keeps getting destroyed. Only laffey with the manjuu survives. Is there any way to improve it?

[storm heron]

[storm heron]

is this on safe?

[stoic badge]

No, halfway to safe. -10% damage taken.

[storm heron]

it might help too to stagger the timings on your CVs, in this case maybe use breqguet instead of wyvern and use beacon on nakh

[storm heron]

you would probably be fine at safe with -20% damage taken AND +20% damage

idk if people use healer in w15 boss farm

[wind hazel]

do you have sandy

try -jda, +sandy

[stoic badge]

I have all ships, but sandy, eldridge and z52 are in the mob fleet. But isn't sandy mostly for aa? I don't think the planes are the problem, since my backline barely takes any damage.

[wind hazel]

sandy have strong surface dmg too

or also can try z52 boss, move laffey to mob. a lot of things you can try

like eldridge shimanto laf2 mob, guam sandy z52 boss is also viable

[stoic badge]

Sounds good. I'll try that then. What about plymouth? She also has a lot of damage, no?

[wind hazel]

yeah but z52 is basically her but better

she's ok but i personally didnt use her for w15

seen some that used her for mob, idk how she perform on boss

and maybe you can use volga too instead of nakh if you still have issue surviving

[rapid grail]

anchorage instead of jda

my clears had enty over nakhimov, but i think that still works out in practice. Just gotta pick planes and aux to desync away from Yk2n and Soyuz

[rapid grail]

z52 on boss is pretty pog. Had her with Aegir and Ancho (was using Biszwei for the clears so buffs for the german frontliners)

then again i only used her in boss on 15-2... so not representative of 15-4 bossing performance.

[wind hazel]

that was referring to plymouth

[forest palm]

weird phrasing

[rain vine]

ply works for boss, thats what i used

[rapid grail]

well it didn't for me... well im not well versed on ply usage

my boss fleets in l8 campaign tend to choke a lot

[stoic badge]

Oh yeah, ancho. It's been a while since I used her, I forgot she is very tanky. Thanks. Ill also try to desync nakhimov. She is perfectly synced with york2 right now.

[rain vine]

i just copied jimmy's auto build off youtube because im lazy, and it uses guam, hinden, ply for vanguard

[hollow gust]

ply is life

[honest sequoia]

Hammam II > Kaza

[forest palm]

now that's just cope

[rapid grail]

(2)

[honest sequoia]

dont say that 💔

[rapid grail]

i can see that in safe clearing but not in lethal

[wind hazel]

both bad

but i've seen people using ham2

[rapid grail]

for w15; w14 was at least easy enough for kaza usage

[forest palm]

Ham II is way too fragile for my liking

[rapid grail]

hammann ii is good if you can ensure her survivability.
that was week 1 tech

[honest sequoia]

idk how does their ham2 doesnt explode

[wind hazel]

i used her up til 15-3 too lol

[honest sequoia]

esp on one of Sushi videos

[rapid grail]

nowadays z52 exists and she's a juiced up hammann in every way

[wind hazel]

because he's a nerd

[honest sequoia]

i didnt play on rumey banner

[drowsy sequoia]

should i convert

[hollow gust]

z52 and hamman does different things????

[forest palm]

do

[rapid grail]

you don't use them for their original purpose after all

just analyze for protocore always. you can just farm away the xp in just a few days at most

[rapid grail]

They share the same flagship cover part in their kits; AA performance and ASW are present in Hammann II. Z52 takes both of these aspects of Hammann II's kit by a few notches AND enough HP to even slog thru multiple OOA fights

[hollow gust]

Hammann is more often then not for her Air Raid Assistance,which is one of the most important CV buff skills, using Hammann anywhere else is copium.

[honest sequoia]

Me

[rapid grail]

Yet a big part of w15's challenges endangers Hammann II's survivability way too much

If you were able to keep her alive for the entire map for that ARA to matter with CV/L usage, then kudos to you

[weak moat]

hello is there a beginner guide

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/

[weak moat]

ty

[sharp socket]

ectl guide updated

[slow fox]

What are some good poverty BB guns?

A gun that one would have a lot of, that could be tossed on random BBs?

[vale spindle]

twin 410 purple or triple 406mk6

[slow fox]

ooo but I don't want to use OpSi materials. 406 then mutsuki

[sharp socket]

mk6 is in tech boxes

twin 410 is also tech box im pretty sure

[slow fox]

1k bp unicorn I don't need to open many techboxes.

I think if I were to open them, it'd be for the toolkits lmao

[normal cedar]

idk if I was tripping or what, but I just saw my franklin recover a bit of hp upon hitting 0 hp while burning
I read her skill and can't find anything related to healing, it happened in exercise and she was the last ship on field

[slow fox]

Was it healing? Or was it a 13 burn?

[sharp socket]

do you have a toolkit on her

[merry glacier]

are tempesta ships usable for anything ?

[normal cedar]

I do have toolkit on her
I'll have to run it again and check if it was heal or burn numbers, I just saw the bar the first time

[slow fox]

It's very likely the toolkit that healed her.

[sharp socket]

IXS can be used to cheese weekly raid, other than that uhh memes 6 mgm

[normal cedar]

Wouldn't it be cancelled out by the burn though? Or is that not how burn works

[sharp socket]

some guy on youtube did 15-4 with a tempesta ship for extra ammo but probably not a good metric

[slow fox]

The burn DOES deal 13 damage every so-and-so. The toolkit, however, repairs like 70

[merry glacier]

shame :c

[atomic abyss]

The IXv, or frontliner tempestas are decent tanks
Fancy most notably is tankier than stuff like eugen for example

That said they have absolutely no AA so, they aren't very useful for anything in campaign

[atomic abyss]

It is and the beginner missions give you one for free

[hallow lintel]

how long exactly will it take to reach max Trust for the event?

[normal cedar]

what is prototype gear upgrade part? is it used to create gear in gear lab?

One which looks golden with a wrench and a cog symbol on it

[sharp socket]

used to upgrade gear to +13

[normal cedar]

I see, is there a chart (/command) of gear upgrade priority?

[tame jungle]

it should be /plus13

[normal cedar]

thanks!

[steep sleet]

Who should I rent from here?

[wind hazel]

anyone you like

ideally the ship you have, otherwise you can't use

[sinful escarp]

in terms of gameplay it changes nothing, so just get anyone you want if you have that ship

[weak moat]

guys shld I try to 3 star each stage until chapter 9

[wind hazel]

3* for the rewards

it's not a must, but it's recommended

[weak moat]

the guide says do events > story so i do the event?

[wind hazel]

you can always come back for them later on. just 3* your highest one for hard mode, more core data

[weak moat]

even with my L ships?

[wind hazel]

event is temporary, campaign is forever. do temporary one

[sinful escarp]

tip to 3 star hard mode: after clearing mobs leave until you get the number of mobs killed star

[weak moat]

then do i just build using the tickets?

[wind hazel]

3 per day, then dump the rest on last day

[weak moat]

ok

so 3 tickets per day?

[wind hazel]

can do more, just calculate so taht you can do at least 3 everyday til event is over

[tawdry halo]

hi chat, who's the best aviation battleship except for the research ship (Kear.)

[weak moat]

which ship shld i focus on building first when i just start is it unicorn>

[weak dust]

when is the next "free 10 instant skill book per day" event

[vivid sonnet]

hi question are eu sr carriers still relavent? eg enty, essex, shangrila

[cobalt rapids]

2nd

[weak dust]

idk about others but ik enty still pretty viable

[boreal wagon]

we dont know really, they don't really announce things that far in advance for us

[late flame]

she is collab only though
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/The_2nd

[vivid sonnet]

franklin? close to enty 70% proc no?

[cobalt rapids]

Why need bbv

[late flame]

who knows, considering he stans Long island

[weak moat]

then i just max unicorn first before i do the rest?

[fickle hollow]

is this fine for Opsi mobbing?

[dreamy blade]

a bit overkill but yes

[fickle hollow]

Will this team work for bossing ( Work in progress)

[honest stirrup]

What boss

[tawdry halo]

I dont have 2nd

[tawdry halo]

unique shipgirl collection

[fickle hollow]

opsi boss nodes,Arbiter etc

[cobalt rapids]

Outside those two all the other bbvs are terrible

[tawdry halo]

then what is the best so far in the terrible ones

[dreamy blade]

e.g. it is actively advised to not fully retrofit yama/fusou bc turning them into bbvs is a downgrade

[tawdry halo]

I just need a unique aviation BB

[vivid sonnet]

hi

[eternal basalt]

Collection though

[tawdry halo]

wouldnt even use it

unless it's for 3-4 because I love bullying Hiryuu

[normal cedar]

ise and hyuuga are the only remaining ones then

[honest stirrup]

harbiter is really the only one a good ol' mob fleet won't deal with (with very few other exceptions)
And yeah, if you can manage to sync these ships, it seems good. Although I don't know for you but I find Amagi CV to reload too quickly compared to AvP

[honest stirrup]

Enterprise is still a really good boss CV

[vivid sonnet]

franklin tho?

[honest stirrup]

She's among the good SR yes, but she falls a bit short compared to UR in end-game

[dreamy blade]

between the 4 bbvs they are all pretty equally terrible, but probably hyuga

[cobalt rapids]

Wdym by relevant, only enty is still relevant in speedrun niche when u have all

[tawdry halo]

Chap 15 for drop... yea I have a long way to go

[fickle hollow]

who should i use for Nakhimov freeze Tashkent or Voroshilov (I dont have soyuz)

[vivid sonnet]

like say if im stuck to choose a eu sr carrier which is better?

[cobalt rapids]

Enterprise

[dreamy blade]

(if you dont have good gear yet franklin would likely outperform enty)

[normal cedar]

you can run enty and franklin together for boss right? or does it make them worse

[vivid sonnet]

sometimes my enty does worse thn essex

[late flame]

also obligatory : do not bother to build faction fleet, since the faction gains often do not justify putting in subpar ships

[vivid sonnet]

tats y im wondering which to use

[cobalt rapids]

Welcome to (un)lucky e

[tawdry halo]

also Implacable doesnt heal right?

I guess my formation's not changing any times soon
(current is Enty - Retro Nelson - Retro Unicorn)

[cobalt rapids]

She negatively heals the enemies

[tawdry halo]

How well is she as bossing comparing to Enty

[dreamy blade]

enty only has 1 skill so if you are unlucky with it then she has quite literally nothing else going for her

[vivid sonnet]

welp i guess enty n franklin it is

[dreamy blade]

if the enemy you are fighting is light armor then essex's 140% fighter slot would also let her edge out an unlucky enty

[cobalt rapids]

When it comes to dmg it depends but implacable offers freeze support ( the best one at that ) which is very valuable for ur fleet dmg contribution

[weak dust]

do i dev 30 haku or ply first

[vivid sonnet]

but say 70% proc enty?

[cobalt rapids]

Harder on med coz she can run 2x la9 while enty is stuck with skyraider

[dreamy blade]

then it was probably whiffed torps + essex strong fighters

[cobalt rapids]

Oh ure talking about essex

Endscreens in campaigns arent any good indicator

Theres alot of stuff that happens that skews dmg there

[tawdry halo]

so I guess at the end of this month I'm replacing enty with Implacable

[cobalt rapids]

Like farming planes dmg or striking water after the ship before you just cleared the wave or getting an extra strike and killing the boss and have a launch advantage etc.

[tawdry halo]

brain didnt fuction, how did I mistake Implacable with Formidable

[weak dust]

ig formi just had a very formidable presence in your mind

[cobalt rapids]

Not rly competing because u can coin haku and ply is prints only

[weak dust]

right... forgot about that

wbt between Haku and Agir
(slightly broke on coins and oil)

[cobalt rapids]

Depends on ur dock

[weak dust]

Haku is dev 26
Agir is dev 21

[cobalt rapids]

Haku needs devs more than aegir if u wanna use her

[weak dust]

ok ill go haku first

[cobalt rapids]

Haku d30 > aegir d30 > haku fs 5

[weak dust]

wym by haku fs 5

[zenith heron]

She has Fate Sim since Last Year

Agir does not yet

[cobalt rapids]

Fate sim 5, post d30 enhancement only available to some

[weak dust]

ohhh fate sim

[zenith heron]

May I know the reason as to why Kearsarge uses the mk6 prototype and a HFCR/AFCT against Jintsuu META Boss Fight?

[cobalt rapids]

Timing

[zenith heron]

Is it due to her shields/durabilty buffs timing?

Rather than using the mk7?

[cobalt rapids]

Yes mintsuu takes more dmg in the later part of the fight

[terse roost]

If I sortie with 2 fleets but only 1 fleet clears the map, will I still get exp on both fleets?

[cobalt rapids]

Xp is awarded per node to the fleet that fought it not per clear

[terse roost]

Then would it be better to just have 1 fleet clear the whole map for pr exp?

[cobalt rapids]

Yes its fine but sometimes the fleet is not strong enough to fight boss ooa after 6 fight in which case sacking boss xp or just using a 2nd lvling fleet is fine

Also just to be clear whole map is the minimum nodes + boss

[eternal basalt]

Remember out-of-ammo debuff. 50% damage is not good for bosses

[terse roost]

I think they can manage fine, it's just that my akashi keeps getting put in life support

[jaunty vault]

i mean it's not good for mobs either 😭

[terse roost]

How much is boss exp worth compared to just normal mob fleets

[eternal basalt]

A little more. Check wiki for values...

[normal cedar]

is it fine if I just stop doing opsi for the next month or two? it's just too much effort and I doubt I'll need gear from lab anytime soon anyways

[eternal basalt]

It's okay, OPSI feelings can't be hurt meanie But META though?

[normal cedar]

I dont care about hornet
Dossier is perma anyways

[cobalt rapids]

Opsi is one of the best ways to improve your account, if u have 1-2 lvled fleets then skipping it is ill advised

[terse roost]

Oh well if I'm running a single fleet and I can do 2 small fleets in 1 boss fleet then I should just skip the boss or are there any bonuses I would be missing

[normal cedar]

hmm maybe Ill just do it on weekend or something then.. to get enough currency to buy important stuff from the shop then

[eternal basalt]

Boss got best rewards generally. What maps you try to farm?

[terse roost]

11-1 just for pr exp

[eternal basalt]

11-1 got clear reward, you're wasting A LOT of coin not killing the boss

[terse roost]

I don't got dorm floor 2 for morale to run 2 fleets 😭

[eternal basalt]

Boss fleets don't need that, they fight one fleet... they can last a while

[terse roost]

K

[naive mauve]

hello im a returnee, i just noticed they changed how the events works, how do you change from easy to hard?

[eternal basalt]

This event is rerun, SP, one map for all

[whole crypt]

you probably just haven't seen this format before, you need to clear upwards from easy

[eternal basalt]

~~It has never been used since ~~

[whole crypt]

the format itself was a mistake, as is this rerun

[naive mauve]

got it thank you guys

[hoary relic]

since i can craft gears from gear lab, is it worthy to spend oils for 40k adn 50k milestone?

[eternal basalt]

Go for 30k

[weak moat]

what do i do with N units

[cobalt rapids]

enhance ships

[weak moat]

ok

[undone plover]

SP is 5 token per oil
and hard is 5.6 correct?
so pretty much farming hard over SP is better?
am I missing sth ?

[late flame]

tbh i ignored sp (outside of mission requirement)
got the event done in a day just doing hard lol

[hollow hollow]

sp if you want the extra few points to clear the milestones faster otherwise just smash your head into hard

[sullen birch]

Should I keep going?

[normal cedar]

for what are you pulling? on event banner or perma?

[eternal basalt]

Where do you get the last 5 DD gun prints from?

[eternal basalt]

SP is required for EX, 500 cog chips is nice

[undone plover]

yeah i know I cleared it once
i just meant going forward I dont need the daily clear right?

[undone plover]

yeah but u could just repeat hard mode no?

[eternal basalt]

Save 29 cubes for 🇳🇱

[hollow hollow]

SP is worth 2 hard clears on coalition

[undone plover]

yeah sure but u are paying 160 oil for 800 pts
hard mode u pay 75 for 420
so hard mode is more efficient oil-wise

[hollow hollow]

i mean

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_130mm_(B-2LM)#tabber-tabpanel-Type_3-0 Doesn't seem prints are ANYWHERE else? Is this a bug?

[hollow hollow]

i guess it's different for me now than it was two years ago where this event sucked out all my oil and gave me nothing for it but now oil isn't something that bothers me anymore

[hollow hollow]

its in the core shop

[hoary relic]

those are my URs right now, BisW is going to rerun soon so idk how should i spend my bulins from now

[eternal basalt]

That is not prints

[polar lion]

Save till u hv 4 URin and then ask again

[hollow hollow]

yeah, i stared at 21/25 prints for 2 years cause of this scam event having a 0% drop rate. that's why we don't have events like this anymore where the milestones cuck you out of the gun

they learned to just give you a minimum 25 bps in milestones, or put one in the shop

[sullen birch]

Perma I wants one of the UR ships

[hoary relic]

still confused should i use bulins for shinano lol

[hollow hollow]

no

[normal cedar]

are you fr? we wont be getting the last 5 prints? what even is the point of giving 20 prints then

[hollow hollow]

you get them from grinding TC3

[sinful escarp]

there should be a new UR coming with CN anniversary, so its a better idea to save bullins for her instead

[polar lion]

No u save your boolins until u hav 4 first. Your circumstances by then might be different

[hoary relic]

[hollow hollow]

any perm urs don't use bullins for. just buy whichever one you need a copy for limit breaking when you hit 400 cubes

[polar lion]

It's either mlb straight away or save. Nothing in between

[hollow hollow]

if it's not a UR event you're earning points for the perma UR pity

so spam them rolls and just buy floof whenever you hit 400 and you'll have her

[hoary relic]

i guess it would take me 4 non-ur event to reach pity again

or 2 months i guess

[eternal basalt]

20 original too? Where did we get the last 5 from? Since I now have 20, not 40

[polar lion]

Yea we get 2 boolins per month

[hollow hollow]

yeah that means the first time around you got 0 drops and cleared the milestones

[hoary relic]

excluding UR event we get 1.5 bulin per month right?

[fossil hull]

do you have guides to clear frost fall missions hard mode i dont have tempesta ships to clear it in one go

[hollow hollow]

i'm over here burning pity URs to get the cores to turn them into bullins

[hollow hollow]

post your dock

[normal cedar]

6k cores + half a cruise bullin =1.5+0.5

[eternal basalt]

2 with cruise pass

[hoary relic]

oh ye forgot it

[eternal basalt]

Dont do it, these cores count against the monthly limit.

[hollow hollow]

what

no shot

[polar lion]

Just switch hull types in your fleets. Ex DD + CV all. Then CL + BB all until u achieved all missions

[eager mulch]

cores gained from retiring URs count towards the limit and are therefore useless

[hollow hollow]

that is fucking cancer

[eager mulch]

cry

[zenith heron]

[hollow hollow]

why the fuck would burning URs count against you? that's pure insanity

[hoary relic]

well why not? his account his choice i suppose but tbh that's such a stupid thing to do

[hollow hollow]

i have all the pity ur mlb

[polar lion]

Just keep them for skin showcase

[hoary relic]

just time matter lol

u cant expect much when u r a newbie

[eternal basalt]

30

[forest palm]

ah, yes 30 medals an absolute drop in the bucket

[hoary relic]

[normal cedar]

Do I have need for independence if I have franklin, enty, saratoga retro and perseus? asking so that I know what to get next in core shop

Is she like must have for worlds 13+

[hoary relic]

are netherland ships going to be added?

[forest palm]

wait for the stream

[wind hazel]

need no, but she's good ship. get shells before getting her though

[hoary relic]

if ur inde aint retro, u may not i suppose

i bought the shells from coredata shop so should i buy another blackburn firebrand for another wyvern or save up and wait for rs?

or jean bart gun?

[whole crypt]

honestly I'd get firebrand from shop, you should have spare cores before you have spare electronics

even when you have excess cores will be in more excess than lab for quite a while

[eager mulch]

150 medals or 2nd shinano

i know what im picking

[whole crypt]

wha?

[eager mulch]

[late flame]

if you have the answer why bother asking though

[eager mulch]

rhetorical

[polar lion]

he wants us to make him doubt

[hoary relic]

[late flame]

fuck gimme back the time wasted reading that

[forest palm]

sounds like a you problem

[sullen birch]

@whole crypt
Should I continue?

[forest palm]

don't

[sullen birch]

I really need one of UR bbs

[late flame]

save unless you whale then do whatever

[sullen birch]

No
I'm not whale

[forest palm]

you don't need any URs

[crimson glacier]

do you even have 4 rainbow bulins ready

[sullen birch]

I have 6 or maybe 7

[crimson glacier]

anyway you should wait for the good UR BBs

[hoary relic]

@sullen birchu dont have any UR bb bruh?

[eager mulch]

FdG is obtainable with significantly less cubes afaik

[sullen birch]

Muscahi and Bismarck the new one
But I'm using them in other fleets

[sullen birch]

I'm working on other ship

The one with big red katana

[eternal basalt]

As I said... keep those 29 cubes for the Dutch

[hoary relic]

izumo?

[sullen birch]

Yes

[whole crypt]

you don't need a UR BB

[eager mulch]

[whole crypt]

just wait for it

[hoary relic]

i thought u got NJ from perm pool

[sullen birch]

Is their new ones coming?

[eternal basalt]

(We dont even know CN anni, and BisII follows anyway)

[sullen birch]

No
I didn't get any

[whole crypt]

there are 4 new URs each year and we don't know what we'll be getting

the point is there's no rush to get any single UR ship

[eternal basalt]

*6 I presume from now

[sullen birch]

Ok

[hoary relic]

it took me 4 months to reach perm pool pity, i guess it would take me 1 year and a quarter to mlb shinano

[hollow hollow]

is fritz one of the best support ships for 15?

lowkey 8 fighters at 140% and a massive avi stat goes kinda hard

[ivory pawn]

Not one of. The best support ship.

But she’s also really good in the actual fleet too.

[hollow hollow]

Adm. Nak, Implac, Fritz for support maximized?

[wind hazel]

hwah jah

[rapid grail]

If u dont wanna use her in your clearing or farming fleets then by all means, chuck her there

and if you wanna use her for other bossing content then thats fine, just chuck in the Lusty classes, the retrofitted chinese cvls.

[hollow hollow]

oh wow they get double fighters too? wild

[rapid grail]

Yea thats why they busted lol. Literally 2 flex slots for the retrofitted chinese baddies

[hollow hollow]

langley retro also kind of good

[rapid grail]

Yes, good poverty option

[hollow hollow]

wild take: put wyverns and the french tb on your support slots... for even more intercept

[wind hazel]

they dont work like that

[hollow hollow]

...bis stat boost then

[wind hazel]

yes

[hollow hollow]

why dont the intercept tb's count?

[eternal basalt]

They don't launch

[hollow hollow]

lame

[boreal wagon]

support fleets are specifically designed to only launch fighters nothing else

[hollow hollow]

load up on the FW190s then

https://gyazo.com/aebf2b495d96ef76ee6be24d7de51e2e got mine ready

[rapid grail]

technically works but not for the reason u thinking

+AVI good for fighters that intercept

[hollow hollow]

put just the highest AVI i have available but hte wyverns should be mobbing anyway

[rapid grail]

more +AVI = bigger pp dmg to enemy planes

[sly girder]

Ok dumb question
Do I need to complete the coalition battle in solo or the actual coalition battle mode to get the event tickets in missions?
Bc if so holy crap my fleet is squishy

[hollow hollow]

solo or coalition gives you tickets and progress

coalition gives slightly more tickets, thats it. you can do solo battles.

[eternal basalt]

ACTUAL coalitioñ

[sly girder]

The construction tickets? Not the event accumulation- Dang it

I keep getting clapped in the second round

[hollow hollow]

honestly, the event isn't worth grinding if you can't do it

the cl/ca gun is decent but if you're struggling don't waste the oil

you won't get a dd gun from it even with the milestones

[vivid sonnet]

are tbey going to add the afct?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[vivid sonnet]

lol i missed the event twice

[atomic abyss]

Given NJ gun was added to gear lab a fair bit after her event became perma, you'll probably need to wait for a while

[normal cedar]

it takes 35 days to trigger homecoming right? (by days I mean game's daily resets)

[atomic abyss]

We don't know

[keen sable]

If you're first fleet can solo then you're doing it wrong. Spread the love around. Don't just put the six worst ships in the second fleet. Also realistically in this kind of stuff the second fleet needs to be the stronger one. So it should be the first fleet getting clapped if any.

[normal cedar]

I see, I heard that number from someone who tested it here

[stone sluice]

Junyou and Hiyou drop only from boss battle or from any recon fleet battle (in 12-2/12-3 respectively)?

[eager mulch]

who

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junyou https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hiyou

[jaunty vault]

does it say they drop from mobs too?

[normal cedar]

I asked now for my alt account on another server, I've already been gone there for 3 weeks

[vivid sonnet]

well i guess we wait

[atomic abyss]

Blue rarity so yes, any

[honest stirrup]

So... it doesn't matter if I put Swordfishes or Wyverns on support fleet?

[crimson glacier]

only thing that torp bombers do is give avi

[eternal basalt]

If boss only it's shows an icon. Compare Kaga https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kaga

[normal cedar]

worth crafting? if yes then who to use them on ?(as in ship type)

[forest palm]

no, just leave them there

[normal cedar]

ok

[sleek spade]

do I need to do coalition battles for every stage or just do the last stage's coalition battle?

[sly girder]

Ye, im mainly just trying to get Volo

[eternal basalt]

Normal has no, sp/ex is required, normal and hard recommended

[sleek spade]

mmm I see ty

[normal cedar]

what is the estimated drop rate for gold gear prints from map? is there any cn player reported statistic for this? I think someone sent something similar here once

[eternal basalt]

0% for event. Unknown for others. Don't bother with it

[normal cedar]

I got 2 for tashkent gun before hitting 20k though, was thinking maybe I could try to get 3 more... will see how many I get till 27.5 k atleast
On another note, are war archives good for gear print farming? I just found out that golden washing machine drops at mirror involution d3

[little tree]

Hiw good is the 27k gun in event

[hollow gust]

Decent enough , it's fine if you are broke

[outer cedar]

where do i find these?

[forest palm]

you only get Vouchers the first of every month, and how many get is determined by what you had in your inventory the prior month, you can see what condenses into vouchers in your inventory by clicking on an item, and taping the gray details button

sure the wiki has the information as well in a easier to read format

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Exchange_Shop

[outer cedar]

aight thx

ill look into that later
currently grinding stronghold rn

[ivory pawn]

No. Gold print droprates suck. You’ll continuously get Washing Machine prints from Research, and you’ve got the blue versions to hold you over until then.

[keen sable]

It also needs 25 not 15

So if you thought 200 runs was bad try 300.

[normal cedar]

is this unique to frostfall? never seen it before

[hollow gust]

[left cedar]

i love that reaction

[honest sequoia]

But +19 eva is so ass tho

[tame jungle]

+19 is better than +0

[honest sequoia]

Is there a method to fast farm affinity?

[tame jungle]

yeah use your ships

think the method is funnel mvp, keep above 30 morale, secretary? personally don't ever do this myself so could use some specifics

[honest sequoia]

I mean as in if I farm a world with the lowest oil cap to farm affinity instead of 12-4 with 951 oil cap

[steep sleet]

Shall I rent anybody from here?

[honest sequoia]

It’s ur choice man rent anyone u like

[steep sleet]

Okey!

[tame jungle]

keep in mind that this is only the skin and not the ship itself

[late flame]

also its skin rental so you cant use it if you do not have the ship in question

[steep sleet]

What's the thing about farming?is it important?what it gives.I am new so Idk yet

[late flame]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[viscid swift]

Are you asking what farming is?

[steep sleet]

Nope2 ,not like that.

[steep sleet]

Thanks.

[viscid swift]

You mean farming affinity or?

[honest sequoia]

Yes me will farming world 9 be better for affinity than world 12 cuz it cost tons of oil than world 9

[viscid swift]

You may as well just farm the event then if you're looking just for affinity

[honest sequoia]

Ur right tbh but what if without event

[viscid swift]

Not that I would ever reccomend sacking everything else just to gain affinity a bit faster

[late flame]

outside of event i'd still go w12 - lower map is just wasting oil imo

[eternal basalt]

And next week is new event, farm there

[honest sequoia]

What’s next week new event

[normal cedar]

netherlands ig

[soft raft]

Wasn't the Livestream supposed to be today

Or am I misremembering and it's Sunday Instead

[normal cedar]

monday (21st)

[soft raft]

Ah

[split bramble]

anyone know the droprate of b-13 in this event?

[tame jungle]

low

[eternal basalt]

Where's b? Oh, the DD gun... forget about it. Get it from core shop.

[split bramble]

yeah

did like 3 rounds of hard and got nothing lol, going for 30k and dip

[tame jungle]

don't farm gear in events

there was only 1 exception to that rule (hvar hellcat)

[split bramble]

id do it for steam cata and pancake i think, but yeah only points

but then again i maxed all the cv's so no point of getting new steam cata

[tame jungle]

you wouldn't do it for steam catapult either

[worldly pewter]

doing it for tech box gear is a little bit

[tame jungle]

with how low the oil cost is this event it's not too bad i think but anything past 50k event points is kind of taking the piss

[robust jasper]

Is this any good?

[worldly pewter]

who is this

[tame jungle]

is that chkalov?

[robust jasper]

That pr5 carrier

[tame jungle]

holy shit i was right

[eternal basalt]

You got (amount of cv+cvl+bbv) * 2 gold stream catapult?

[split bramble]

nah i just have no use of taking off my cata anymore, I have enough for all my meta cvs

[split bramble]

true I did have the ambition of getting cata to all my meta cv

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chkalov

fuck discord actually lagging

[tame jungle]

get super snailed on

[waxen valley]

Who should I get from here I have ulrich not mlb tho

[hollow gust]

Shinano MLB then Vanguard MLB

[waxen valley]

I have shinano mlb alrdy

[eternal basalt]

Vanguard then

[frail pelican]

does little formidable have to live to get the 2x bonus?

[hollow gust]

Prob not

They are very lenient with those things

[late flame]

i didnt even use her once anywhere* and still got her FML

[eternal basalt]

~~And Anchorage next ~~

[waxen valley]

Is ulrich not worth MLB

[crimson glacier]

ulrich and nj are the bottom 2 UR BBs

[waxen valley]

Okay thanks

Is friedrich worth building

[split bramble]

yeah they got powercreeped ™️ only for tech

[crimson glacier]

you can get her blueprints pretty cheaply now so yeah

fdg is good mobber

[waxen valley]

Who will be next perm UR added any idea

[split bramble]

yeah but mostly use ships you want to level

[eternal basalt]

Musashi

[split bramble]

i meant not using level 125 ships or ships you don't want to use first, unless you are doing tech bonuses or smth.

not sure if im conveying my message correctly

[waxen valley]

Ah okay I alrdy have her

[weak moat]

is there anyway to speed up the morale thing

[tame jungle]

put your ships in dorm (2nd floor regenerates morale quickest)

[split bramble]

2nd floor at the dorm

[weak moat]

ty

[split bramble]

also don't let your ship die

[rocky tinsel]

Tigercat and flapjack roughly equivalent?

[weak moat]

oh why?

[tame jungle]

for content that isn't an AA check yes

[split bramble]

they lose morale a lot more if they die

[weak moat]

oh shit ok

[rocky tinsel]

@tame jungle is one better overall?

[tame jungle]

flapjack is better when AA requirement is relevant

[rocky tinsel]

Gotcha, so thats why I see few tigercats?

[split bramble]

yeah, its expensive and not widely used

[rocky tinsel]

Flapjack is just an upgrade

[split bramble]

i think it was recommanded on indie, but thats about it

[tame jungle]

high campaign definitely

[split bramble]

probs always contributes to powercreep and ease of access

[tame jungle]

what

[split bramble]

his question about fewer tigercats, forgot to click reply

[weak moat]

what happens if I fight with low morale

[eternal basalt]

-Affection, 50% XP

[tame jungle]

your ships lose affinity

and they will hate u so much

[weak moat]

noooo 😭

[rocky tinsel]

Wish more of the gear was viable. Some cool stuff in here that I never get to use

[worldly pewter]

trust me u don't want that or else u will need years to get enough components for them

[river junco]

don't have enough components to stack on current gear as is kek

[quartz nest]

Does raffaello have any particular benefit from being flagship?

[little tree]

Usually barrage is placement dependent so might be thay i don't know her well enough

[rocky tinsel]

I mean, not everything needs to be +13

haha, unpopular opinion

In other questions: is there a guide to optimally farming this event anywhere?

[eternal basalt]

Not much to it, just get 30k and scram

[little tree]

We got scammed no gold plates

[eternal basalt]

Taking into account dailies

[forest palm]

I stopped caring after 15k

[rocky tinsel]

Thanks all for the help and pointing me in the right place (I was blind and for some reason thought it would be in the Event-faq)

[whole crypt]

rainbow books got to rainbow

[eternal basalt]

~~Event faq still exists ~~

[waxen valley]

Is vanguard or Mushashi better for boss fleet

[sweet delta]

If the most recent message in event FAQ is 4 months old, then it's probably not relevant to the current event

[little tree]

Mods just don't update it

[honest sequoia]

musashi

[waxen valley]

So once I get vanguard can she replace my NJ

[little tree]

Why not use mushahi in mob?

[tame jungle]

depends on your other options and what boss you're facing

[honest sequoia]

You can

[sweet delta]

Vanguard replaces NJ. Vanguard sometimes replaces Musashi

[rocky tinsel]

Can someone give me some suggestions on 1:1 compositions for Hard Frostfell? I have a decent collection and have most.

[honest sequoia]

but she be better in bossing in general
unless ur talking about w15

[sweet delta]

The oil cap is 25 oil per battle

[eternal basalt]

Just do 3:3

[little tree]

Musahi is the best in 15 mob

[valid apex]

does the triple 180mm cl gun from frostfall rerun has any use? I am thinking to scrape it but I am worried that it may be used for some setup or something

[eternal basalt]

Major waste of xp

[sweet delta]

Why would you scrap limited gear for 16 coins, just put it on some random ship

[eternal basalt]

Dont scrap your limited gear

[little tree]

Always keep event limited gear

[sweet delta]

Major waste of exp, don't you have 120s who don't have 3 million exp yet?

[honest sequoia]

shit or not shit
just keep any limited gears

[eternal basalt]

Why not fill the 3rd main slot?

[waxen valley]

Should I get my augment for retro Sandy or save it for another UR bullin

[sweet delta]

What

[honest sequoia]

youll never know if they will buff it in 20 years time

[viscid swift]

Because I have no more main fleets to level

[little tree]

Get Sandy's augemnt

[sweet delta]

They cost different things

[little tree]

Sandy is cracked with augment and retro

[valid apex]

why? I dont see it in my depot so I prob scraped the first one from the original run. I need free space in depot too, all these event limited gears is starting to take up space

[sweet delta]

@valid apex

[hollow gust]

Just put equipment it on random ships

[eternal basalt]

Then use collab, or child, or get some to 3m

[viscid swift]

That includes collabs, child and Muse ships

[little tree]

He did it he beat azure lane

[whole crypt]

main fleet is easy

[wind hazel]

i farm c1, exp is no issue for me

[eternal basalt]

But the cogs though

[whole crypt]

my hard mode fleet is just 1 carrier each fleet for main so I can save dorm slots

[waxen valley]

When will bismark zwei rerun

[tame jungle]

soon

[whole crypt]

cogs for what

[honest sequoia]

Prolly May

[jaunty vault]

not may

[little tree]

Soon tm

[viscid swift]

No one knows

[honest sequoia]

soon

[normal cedar]

not may, previous patterns suggest june/july

[eternal basalt]

After CN Anni

[stark quiver]

How do you know soon
What if it gets delayed

[honest sequoia]

Source: trust me

[wind hazel]

my uncle said so

[whole crypt]

probably June/July, whenever they can fit a dead week after CN anniv

[little tree]

He lied to me last time

[tame jungle]

your uncle john azur lane?

[eternal basalt]

To get collab, child and muse to 120

[fluid umbra]

Should I xp/coin farm in hard or 12-4?

[whole crypt]

[honest sequoia]

bro what

[little tree]

Slacker

[forest palm]

I know that feels

[eternal basalt]

That's not "I leveled all"

[honest sequoia]

how do you even get lv1 ships to 100 afinity

[viscid swift]

Smh not being done with main fleets

[whole crypt]

that's filtered to main fleet and not maxed

[eternal basalt]

Event stuff

[normal cedar]

does anyone use HELP? I cant see any reason to use it and they just keep growing

[sweet delta]

People use it

[wind hazel]

secretary them to 90, then wait for event that raises affinity above 90

[tame jungle]

i use them when i can't be bothered to grind efficiently

[whole crypt]

it's a time saver, some people do use it

[fluid umbra]

I spam it so I don't need to afk as long

[forest palm]

if you are short on time to play, or there's a good event node with good drops, otherwise no real reason to use them

[jaunty vault]

I'm people

[tame jungle]

i'm gurt

[normal cedar]

Oh I see... I'm never short on time ig so its useless for me...

[little tree]

I use them cause I want pr grind done faster

[eternal basalt]

If need some fast cash, HELP 12-4 runs

[normal cedar]

That's a very good way to use them

[tame jungle]

magical button that turns 1.9k oil into 12k coins

[jaunty vault]

yo

[tame jungle]

wassup

[forest palm]

I've done PR/DR Grinds in a day or two w/o HELP

[little tree]

[waxen valley]

Once I get vanguard should I take out Aquila or NJ

[whole crypt]

but yeh this is what I'm using for hard mode now

[little tree]

Neither

[honest sequoia]

~~i dont got oil like you man ~~

[eternal basalt]

1 main... IT GETS WORSE

[forest palm]

just swip la

[waxen valley]

What then

[fluid umbra]

I'm having more issues with stamina

[little tree]

Vanguard goes to the bench for camping fleets

[waxen valley]

What does that mean

[whole crypt]

until they add more dorm slots than 6

[eternal basalt]

500k in mail

[little tree]

Means they sit in dock

[waxen valley]

Oke

[frail pelican]

is there a reason why I can't add little formidable to my fleet? She is in my dock as an npc but doesn't exist when I want to add her to my fleet

[eternal basalt]

Make her non-NPC

[little tree]

Make her love you first

[whole crypt]

your fleet where, NPC ships cannot be put into some fleets

[frail pelican]

for regular campaign

[eternal basalt]

Should be there, first slot when adding

[whole crypt]

she should be there though, main fleet slot

NPC is basically guaranteed to be the first ship on the list if you haven't pick her up permanently

or did you already get her and didn't notice she fell to the bottom of the list

[frail pelican]

I'm super actually 💀 I forgot she was a CV and kept wondering why I can't put her beside kawakaze

[little tree]

[frail pelican]

mb guys

[whole crypt]

I knew mentioning main fleet would be useful

[eternal basalt]

Anchy soon

[little tree]

Lil anchy is cursed

[whole crypt]

another ship to oath

[frail pelican]

it really was helpful

[whole crypt]

at least she's vanguard so it's easy to 1-1C

[normal cedar]

scylla is basically anti air right?

[little tree]

Is this aux even relevant any more

[sweet delta]

Never has been

Might be good for using sao or ganji in chapter 13 or 15

[eternal basalt]

Got the best muse music IIRC

[little tree]

The aa stat is what I was thinking for in 15

But unsure if it out weighs hp aux

[sweet delta]

You're thinking of using tempesta in 15?

[little tree]

No

[whole crypt]

if you want to AA cope you use HPAAR anyway, but it's better to just build better AA across the whole fleet

[sweet delta]

Then use AA radar for 100 AA

[little tree]

Oh yea pepega

[near cargo]

Is there a good healer BB beside Ari?

[little tree]

Is hiden gun better on Cheshire or Anchorage

[whole crypt]

Homura, but collab limited
North Carolina with augment cope

[viscid swift]

Raffaello

[honest sequoia]

I have the same question for agir too

[whole crypt]

Anchorage has better gun damage

[little tree]

I think agir always used cb gun

[honest sequoia]

Is hinden gun even functional for agir

[whole crypt]

Agir should just use Agir gun

[little tree]

Skill proc on agir

[little tree]

Needs agir gun

[whole crypt]

if you don't have the better CB guns

[honest sequoia]

That Pr4 gun right

[whole crypt]

yes

[forest palm]

Gaum Gun exists, so no, Unzen gun is better than Azuma gun though

[near cargo]

Homura ? She's a Sub

[whole crypt]

I probably got the name wrong

[viscid swift]

Honoka he means

[whole crypt]

whatever her name was from DOAXVV

[left cedar]

same shitty
both do lil dmg, and a diff between a twin 234 and UR Gun is small

the onlys CAs that u will really notice diff it will be things like
Hindy, Unze and Michitta

[whole crypt]

yeh that

[little tree]

Gotcha

[near cargo]

Anyway is Rafello gun even good?

[sweet delta]

It's only the best against medium

It's the best only against medium

[whole crypt]

phrasing

[normal cedar]

hellcat helldiver and tenzan - franklin's planes are the same as enty's right?

[hollow gust]

Matters a lot for Roon

[sweet delta]

They can use the same planes if they're used for the same purpose

[normal cedar]

Yes, thanks then!

[little tree]

Does Anchorage want sword or lance ?

[sweet delta]

Depends

[little tree]

Campaign

[whole crypt]

I mean both are not great but Anchorage gun damage is quite a bit ahead of Cheshire

[sweet delta]

Basically always Greatsword for Anchorage, check augment guide for idk

[little tree]

There is an augment guide ??

[sweet delta]

Lance is only used for DPS minmaxing, and anchorage does not have much DPS to minmax

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething Agir hit cope

[sweet delta]

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules/

[honest sequoia]

Why is every AL guide a github

[whole crypt]

but yeh CA/CB just use greatsword, even the so called DPS minmaxing is kind of meh

what's wrong with a github

[little tree]

I gave most of my ships the augment that gives aa stat if it does

[honest sequoia]

I just realised most of AL guides are github that’s all

[little tree]

Good to know there is a guide now

[honest sequoia]

Didn’t know GitHub was free

[little tree]

W 15 guide is Google docs

[sweet delta]

In the grand scheme of things, a bit of AA stat on a non-AA tank is insignificant compared to just using greatsword to block some torpedoes

[whole crypt]

remind me toloveru vanguards need augment to have fancy pewpew?

[little tree]

Yes

[sweet delta]

Momo doubles her flower summon, Nana gets an extra "hitscan" part of her barrage, Lala gets some stats idk

[little tree]

Lala and momo are cracked

[whole crypt]

yeh nvm not going to bother, just leveling them for the sake of leveling them now

[sweet delta]

Yami gets armor break and evadown or something

[tired sluice]

anyone knows if theres a guide for meowfficers?

[whole crypt]

Yami already 120/200 don't think I'm going to bother enhancing her aug at this point

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[eternal basalt]

No github

[sweet delta]

20% efficiency

Or 10% extra

[tired sluice]

thanks

[little tree]

Its 20

[sweet delta]

It's 20 after augment, but the augment didn't add 20

[whole crypt]

it's 0 as long as I don't actually use the augment

but yeh not going to bother spending the coins now

[little tree]

~~ surly u have coins in mail ~~

[whole crypt]

I can afford it I just don't want to, it's not like I get anything out of it

[left cedar]

the thing isnt about who does more, more like, the diff between both are shitty enough to not easily noticiable

[left cedar]

probally, yeah
but she still miles behind if compared to this 3, and she is in a limbo without a chance to being relevant to anything, after all, she is a CA without biggest dmg dealers and less tanky than being something

[hollow gust]

anchor dps is decent, is it noticable, yes very, would you care about the difference endgame , not really

[left cedar]

decent for wut ?
a CA? maybe ... but isnt gona change much from twin 234 and a UR gun

[hollow gust]

Whats with the CA dps hate? you know ships like roon can compete with likes of ddgs and plymouth

[little tree]

If you don't have twin 234 is much more noticeable then right?

[left cedar]

kinda depends on wut exactly, for mobbing or general content twin 234 does the trick cuz general use gun
but for bosses only u wanna gud focused guns

but even so, isnt gona be more than 5~k diff

at least not on Chess or Ancho

[little tree]

They have twin 203

[left cedar]

things change drastically once is about Hindy, Unze etc

[little tree]

Thanks for the help .

[hollow gust]

Rainbow guns are a fat different in comparison for CAS, unless its specific ships like Saint Louis you will notice the lack

[trim path]

for vanguard tech farming, would ca or cl FP be more valuable?

[left cedar]

not change drastically for non dps orientable like big CAs dmg dealers

also, not really needed since the change are negliciable and the cost to adquire and prepare are astronomical giantic

[hollow gust]

Depends on your ships but it's way more likely you have dps CAs

[left cedar]

PS: non tankers CAs uses are scarse and have others several options to

[trim path]

👍

[left cedar]

cuz they are shitty useless
aside tankers CAs, that already have several options to not use CAs
they dosnt contribute like others Vangships generally do, DDs and CLs aside better dmg dealers have buffs

[hollow gust]

All 3 PR1 CAs are extremly high in the dps ladder . If people have uses for DDgs and Shimakazes they would have uses for any of the PR1 DPS CA. Hindenburg is pure damage so is unzen

Just cause we have busted as fuck URs doesn't make them shitty useless

[left cedar]

o yeah, thats why u see them being used all time for everyone ... cuz they have uses
ooooh no, w8

CAs are in limbo, CBs, CLs and DDs are the only things that are worth to use
aside few CAs like Ancho have they places for several time

[hollow gust]

It's extra ironic considering your stance on ships like FdG and ulrich then . Time to call them trash cause newer URs kick thier teeth's in

[vale spindle]

I submitted a maxed out ibuki for my guild operation

[hollow gust]

These days many CAs especially those like Ibuki are very meta if you don't have the perfect setup

[left cedar]

i'm the one who uses more CAs in everywhere here ...

just my Op.Si have something like 12 CAs

[wind hazel]

[hollow gust]

[whole crypt]

I mean when you use that many CAs and can't afford to swap the CA guns around I guess you can "optimize" to use them on the higher damage CAs first?
but when you're just sending Anchorage or Cheshire out there and no one else needs the gun then more damage is just more damage

[left cedar]

w8, are 7

[hollow gust]

[whole crypt]

the difference is actually not insignificant with Anchorage, she's still got decent 2 mounts

[left cedar]

the diff on non dmg dealers are small ... not saying u shoundt use, just not focus on it ...
cuz u not see the diff if u dont pay attention to and start to write the dmg avg

[left cedar]

idk why my SS in BS are "lagged" i have to maxime screen 2x ... and i generally forgot about that

[storm heron]

[left cedar]

now all 7 are visible

"u dont change guns between then"
yeah cuz mostly of then are +13 234, Hindy is one with SKC +13

[whole crypt]

the question wasn't even about focusing on those 2, it was just which of those two should get hindenburg gun, if you wanted to be concise then at least see if another CA needs to be using the gun more than those 2

who knows, maybe he doesn't even have a CA that makes better use of the gun then Anchorage should use it fine

[left cedar]

just go and test it, u wondt noticiable a diff much bigger than 5k in Chess or Ancho with SKC

[dreamy blade]

whether that's true or not is irrelevant

[hollow gust]

Ofc you won't notice a different when Eugen and spee does a grand total of 5k damage

[keen sable]

No

[left cedar]

Desu does quite alot for a Elite CA ... but only in Light, also she does more than several CAs specially old ones

and the diff i tested in Hein and Roon like 2ys ago

[viscid swift]

sigh

[left cedar]

alot b4 Roon get her Unique btw

[hollow gust]

thats 17-19k diff

[dreamy blade]

33% diff seems pretty good to me

[waxen valley]

12-1 or 12-4 for coins

[whole crypt]

4 is better coin/oil

[hushed delta]

that nyakhimov feels lonely

[forest palm]

[clear harbor]

How are action points replenished in Operation Siren? I think I might still be in the tutorial or beginning. Nothing has costed me AP, but it's telling me if I revisit an area, it will cost me AP.

[eternal basalt]

Every 5m 1AP

[eager mulch]

replenish over time and by using AP boxes

[rocky tinsel]

who is the best battlecruiser? Odin? For campaign/siren.

[clear harbor]

Oh okay. For some reason I thought my AP wasn't regenerating, but I must have been looking at something else.

[hollow gust]

More like rupp or constellation

[eternal basalt]

It regens if you're < 200AP

[rocky tinsel]

TY

[clear harbor]

Cool. Yeah, for some reason I thought I was stuck at 190.

But I'm clearly back up to 200 AP now.

[eternal basalt]

What's wrong @sweet delta

[tame jungle]

think it's 1ap per 10m instead but it's very hard to type that out

[bleak nymph]

is retrofit laffey useful for 13+ campaign? or about the same as z23 retro?

[trim path]

1 ap every 10 minutes

nvm im blind, ignore me

[sweet delta]

Not useful
Same as z23

[waxen valley]

Stupid question do u needa keep grey and blue ships to count towards collection

[eager mulch]

you don’t have to keep any ship for 100% collection

just need to have had them and retrofitted them if they have it at least once

[forest palm]

there's also 120 tech to consider

[waxen valley]

Oh word

[waxen valley]

Thank you

[honest stirrup]

Most grey ships can just be retired early game and taken back to 120 later when you're all settled

Making grey ships take up valuable dock space when none of your ships are even above 110 is unefficient

[stark quiver]

I haven’t gotten a mutsuki since 21’

[honest stirrup]

"most"

[sweet delta]

I've gotten more than 4 mutsukis since 21'

[weary gust]

I feel like I've gotten more than 100 ...

[waxen valley]

How many retro fits are there

[weary gust]

~60-70?

It takes a while to retrofit every ship that has one.

[waxen valley]

Does the tech fleet points stay same as well

[stark quiver]

The only thing it affects is collection rate and the better or worse of a ship

[waxen valley]

So I only need to keep ships I want to keep and ones I needa retrofit first

What do u mean

Oh nvm

That’s prob more of an end game thing to do I would think right

[viral solar]

How do I do these?

[eager mulch]

you can start by reading the missions

[tame jungle]

all your fleets need to not have any ships of this type in order for it to count

[viral solar]

I did this chose cli ships still didnt clear it, or I chose the wrong missions, map is also confusing as hell

[tame jungle]

clear WITHOUT using CL

[viral solar]

I wanan do em in order

First without dd's

[tame jungle]

what

[eager mulch]

coalition battle
hard
no dds/ddgs

[tame jungle]

woah

[viral solar]

T3 is the one right?

[eager mulch]

idk I haven’t touched the game in months

[viral solar]

[eager mulch]

whichever one the level 100 one is

[woven star]

with good fleet you can do it 1:1 x3 fleet

but imho better use cvs+dds, bbs+cl and that's it

even SanD can tank it

[tranquil dagger]

I'm like 100 cubes away from getting the UR choice, which one should I go for?

[jaunty vault]

don't use your cubes for perma URs

iirc shinano is recommended as a first choice

you still don't wanna spend your cubes on perma banners other than doing one light pull a day

[tranquil dagger]

Ofc yeah, I only use em on events

[tame jungle]

good boy!

[jaunty vault]

🙏

[tranquil dagger]

You're good bro ☠️

[jaunty vault]

xilonen simp

[tame jungle]

[sweet delta]

I think Vanguard is a better choice than Shinano for new players' first perma UR

[slow fox]

controversial

[eager mulch]

oh shit that’s nubian

[tranquil dagger]

I can always come back when I hit that limit

[sweet delta]

You can come back anytime

[tame jungle]

wholesome

[waxen valley]

Who would be best UR Perm if u alrdy have mlb vanguard shinano NJ and Ulrich? Im not there yet but jus curious

[hollow gust]

Ulrich is never worth it , NJ barley

Nano>=Vanny>NJ>>>Uvh=Kron>Shina

[polar lion]

U can pick based on which xfleet u want. UvH for CV bomb botes interception xfleet, Kron (+Soyuz) slow xfleet, Shima dmg xfleet

[forest palm]

I'd rather pick based off of Tech before I consider that

[waxen valley]

Word

[waxen valley]

Glad I didn’t mlb ulrich then lol

Who would be next perm UR after Mushashi

[cobalt gate]

going through to clear my equipments, why does the blue fba require a code to dismantle?

[sweet delta]

Because the devs said so

[cobalt gate]

Is that the only equipment?

[waxen valley]

Prob implacable huh

LMAOOO I need her

I just missed her cos I came back recently

[cobalt gate]

I mean vanguard does slot in better than shinano that wants ijn

[hollow gust]

[tame jungle]

are there any notable situations where you would run fritz rumey without a CL gun equipped?

[cobalt gate]

If you really need the aa and hit? But most likely not you missing out a lot of other thing

[swift lava]

hello sorry maybe a stupid question but is there no longer an event shop? cause i cant seem to find it

[sweet delta]

The only notable situations where you would run fritz with a CL gun is campaign/mob or a boss with a hit count

[jaunty vault]

this event does not have one

[swift lava]

ok ty

[jaunty vault]

no

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

what’s the low oil fleet this event

and where do we farm

[plucky ice]

How does the equipment stats work? I mean how does like 71 x 1 work

[eager mulch]

71 damage x 1 bullet

[fickle parcel]

Uhhhhhh I can't retire because I have 600k. What do?

[eager mulch]

spend

[fickle parcel]

Any suggestions on what?

[eager mulch]

cats

amagi-chan

research idfk

[fickle parcel]

Amagi-chan?

[slow fox]

Any limit breaks? Cognitive awakenings?

[eager mulch]

build more rudders

[slow fox]

Build more rudders?

[eager mulch]

(my mebot impression)

[fickle parcel]

I have 30 rudders.

[slow fox]

So you need more.

[fickle parcel]

Okay fair.

Is cat box storage infinite? Not the cat storage, the box.

[slow fox]

I have like 10k boxes yeah

[fickle parcel]

Okay great, I'll just buy 2k of those.

[sweet delta]

please do share how

[eager mulch]

you can only buy like 15 a day iirc

[eager mulch]

he will do it over time

[plucky ice]

Guys, are CVs best for mob fleets?

[forest palm]

yesn't

[eager mulch]

good ships are good for mob fleets, people use cvs in opsi mobbing because of the BB slow down upon firing

min maxing time or smth idk

[waxen valley]

Is it worth leveling to 125

[eager mulch]

keep most at lv120, only lv to 125 when the 5 levels matter, which is only like W15 or smth

[plucky ice]

how long do you level ships to 120+? Mine take a few weeks i just wanna know if i doing something wrong

[eager mulch]

idr I haven’t touched the game in months but it depends on where and how much you’re grinding, most grind in 12-4 or smth

[waxen valley]

Okay thank you

[viscid swift]

about 1 week or 2 I'd say is the average assuming you actually start grinding when they're about level 90

[sinful escarp]

and it depends on your oil situation

the more oil you have in storage the more you can grind

[storm heron]

depends on your amount of oil you have (which depends on comission uptime) and depends on whether you know how to maximize exp gain (making sure S rewards, keeping high morale, MVP control)

[fair lance]

For my sanity I only need to reach modernization on the retrofit tree for collection purposes right?

Thanks

[vale spindle]

just remember that if you try and filter by the dock filter "retrofit available" thats based on ships with any node still able to be unlocked, even if they are modernization done

[fair lance]

Ah, thanks for the heads up

[sinful escarp]

also dont stop doing hard mode even after you complete retrotits

cores are very useful at any point to buy stuff from the shop

[white skiff]

Can I ask a question. When I use auto combat, can the level drop elite ship or above if it has? And will it auto lock?

[late flame]

whether you auto or manual does not affect drop rate, so if the map has such a drop - yes
as long as your settings has "Automatically Lock New Characters" set to ON, the game will auto lock the first copy of a new ship

[white skiff]

Oh thank you very much

[uneven cave]

What's the strongest sub fleet atm, is it still fishpack?

[ivory pawn]

Still fishpack.

[uneven cave]

flasher, archer and alba?

And which one's best for flag

[ivory pawn]

Flasher's the flag iirc.

[uneven cave]

ah ok cool

Also do they have snorkel requirements

assuming double bidder

[ivory pawn]

Idk, I just put snorkels on everything.
Hopefully someone who does know shows up.

[uneven cave]

aight snorkel and hull on everyone ig

[normal cedar]

what is happening to franklin? one of jarvis's skills?

[wintry quartz]

is the sea hornet worth farming as its in the radiant court event in the archives now

[wind hazel]

no gear is worth farming from war archive

[viscid cape]

Hello, should i switch my Indianapolis with Reno?

[whole crypt]

you should use neither of them

[whole crypt]

in all seriousness they're both pretty bad ships, if you're just looking for ships to use early game check https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbietips/dayonetips/

[viscid cape]

I'm a beginner

[whole crypt]

also builds now should mostly be on the event pool with tickets, don't waste builds on the light pool unless you've already spent all your tickets

[whole crypt]

yes and we have solid early game recommendations that are not Indianapolis and Reno

[viscid cape]

Cubes as well?

[whole crypt]

you can play all the way up to mid/midlate game without pulling for ships, generally we recommend minimizing cube use to save for URs, specifically you can save enough to pity all new URs each year

this is a rerun event so there are building tickets you can get, which you can use instead of cubes to build for daily missions

if you're out of tickets, or when outside of events, you can build once daily in light pool for daily missions with no net loss of cubes

[waxen valley]

Will shinano vision of fantasy ever come back.

[polar lion]

Prolly on Black Friday

[stark quiver]

will it now?

[polar lion]

Oh wait I forgor it's been banished to the shadow realm

[waxen valley]

depression

[stark quiver]

correct, whatever will happen to it, we dont know

[normal cedar]

10 tickets from mission, 6 from milestones and 6 from login day 1 and 3
12+10=22, where are the 7 more tickets?

Also what event shop

[stark quiver]

@vale spindle ay bruh

[wind hazel]

daily mission

[normal cedar]

ohh yes, makes sense, thanks!!

[vale spindle]

theres daily missions that give some, so +7 for 7 days of event

[stark quiver]

the forbidden event shop

[white skiff]

Is my team ok? What can I improve from this team

[wind hazel]

remove amagi if she isn't mlb. flag your indiana. mlb aquila or enterprise, put off flag. mlb pittsburgh

maybe use helena instead of kasumi too

[plucky ice]

How can I improve this team? (for boss)

[stark quiver]

throwing out the 2nd and rikka to start
and what boss

[white skiff]

Ok thank you

[chrome jackal]

with limit breaking UR's sould i prioritys the ones who arent permanent?

[muted acorn]

Hi guys, are these ships good? Which ones should I level up/use for mobs/bosses?

[wind hazel]

usually yes, but also case dependent in a lot of cases

[late flame]

+depends on what you have

[warped acorn]

this good?

[sinful escarp]

warspite is powercrept into the earth, so aside from getting her to 120 for her tech there is no use for her

[warped acorn]

oh alr noted

[cobalt gate]

Warspite was in 2019 right

[chrome jackal]

i mostly have these not max LB

[stark quiver]

I assume you have every other UR in the game maxed?

[cobalt gate]

Alasce then implacable

[stark quiver]

At a certain point I’d take implacable over alsace

[rapid grail]

hot take, 2LB URs first to MLB before anyone else

Then speedrun Alsace ASAP, afterwards to Implac and anyone else

[stark quiver]

Mog is pretty useless
Id take implacable over y2 and raf honestly

[normal cedar]

is heinrich basically ironblood kursk?

[eternal basalt]

Keep 8 on hold for CN Anni

[queen jackal]

normal to get 0 twin 130 prints after hitting 30k point thresh?

[normal cedar]

the rates are abyssmally low, rest is luck

[meager tiger]

i have a 5 year old account and i just returned after 2 years

anything major changed in terms of gameplay? last time i played, pr5 was out and anchorage was meta in pvp

[wind hazel]

UR powercrept, PR5 and below can be coined, DR5 and above no, w13H, w15 is latest campaign

[queen jackal]

alr, back to w12 i go

[meager tiger]

powercrept by newer URs?