#gameplay-help
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i recently got nj and prinz heinrich, but i got no xp books, what should i do to level them up 
dorm, commissions, sorties
for the record getting onto top 100 for fleet power is going to be a lot of grinding and very likely whaling
To even begin to get out of "unranked" you would need to first get almost every ship of the game max limit broken and retrofit, and by then you probably already have gears so high, these 10 stats would be less than negligible
Its not that much of a problem, its like a secondary quest of mine
right, thats what i thought but checked in, in case there was something i was missing
I wish you good luck and a lot of patience then
Im not unranked tho...
Yeah don't bother
the actual quality of the gear you use is also not really important as opposed to just having something that pads stats and preferably high rarity
no Belfast secretary smh
rubbish metric smh
Also i've already retrofitted everything, got every ship, mlb all (except collab ships) and have 583 lvl 120 ships

you'll get there grey just keep leveling 
good luck if you're in Av, Wash, Sandy, or Lex 
I'm in Wash :c
got into a sweat server 
I don't gear my ships all the time
Amateurs
Is there a list? 👀
your best luck is just waiting for people to give up on playing
Toolbox is king
assuming game doesn't EOS before that
Wash is too old a server as it is to be relatively competitive in the rankings without throwing some cash into the game 
for the record a top ranker that stops playing now will probably remain the top ranker for the forseeable future because fleet power doesn't go down from not playing, you need to eventually catch up to it
Idk man, I'm in Sandy and that Redleaf that is n°1 in fleet power keeps getting top 10 earner in EVERY EVENT
tryhards going to keep trying hard so 
But is there like a doc on how to equips ships efficiently for power?
Besides spamming UR Gear?
rainbow = more power
toolkits and whatever gold weapon you can get your hands on, short of being able to get a lot of rainbow gear
Skills don't matter for power so it's just the more raw stats the better
Damn i should start buying rainbow torps every month
that is a horrible waste, but w/e 
Oh why toolkits?
Cheap ig
What else can i buy with cores :c
But the difference 😭
that translates to maybe 1 point on ladder
Brick by brick...
my honest advice is to just not bother with it unless you're ready to spend the next 4 years leveling every ship and paying in for dupes
Wait i need dupes?
yes, dupes at different LB levels add to fleet power
If you wanna win
Each dupe counts as a unique copy
so the top scorers are all whales
also some retros count as different coppies
You need LB0, LB1, LB2 and MLB
Like I said
Wallet v wallet
So maybe.....i should....
not forgetting you have people who also whale rings for the bonus stats
that'd be the hull conversion retrofits right
IE the BBVs, Mogami, and the DDGs
if you want to go for it you just need 4 x the regular dock space 🙂
yes you will need closer to 2.9k 🙂
And like I also said
You literally don’t need to giga whale for rank 100
some servers you can reach rank 100 without whaling
but I'm not going to bother equipping 600 fodder ships
Nah imagine whaling on AL
its more than those (there is no real pattern as to why they should count they just do due to how the game data works and the alg checks)
I don’t need to imagine
Looks at spending figurre on store 
I spend significantly more than 2 boatloads each year, whether that counts as whaling I guess depends on your finances 
Oh, augments counts too right?
yes
their stats do the augment itself is 0
when I say I spend significantly more than 2 boatloads I mean I have no idea how many boatloads I buy after first bonus is gone 
(not counting cruise pass obviously)
gaming
those won't be a problem when you get around to leveling 700 ships
because plates drop when you grind stages?
Yeah but
Not in 14-1....
14-1 grinding poggies
ch14 is stupidly inefficient but sure
14-1, for levelling? 
Yes
I need more cogs
have fun buying them then
Nooo never
but yet buying space for dupes is an option?
Never said that....
I dont retire dupe URs bc i feel bad.....
well it's on that to-do list if you want to leaderboard fleet power
After the tenth, you stop caring... just 30 medals
I dont think ill go for #1 xd
and honestly if you don't buy chips I don't think you'll be catching up with the rankers
not even #1. maybe manage to squeeze yourself into 100-80 ish
Thats fine
good luck that's your next 3 years of grinding set then
how many are you left with
How many there are without counting collabs?
Need 2 years for all reruns to come
As of Tuesday, 4/15/2025, there is a total of 619 regular ships, 100 of which can be retrofitted. There are 37 research ships, 71 collab. ships, and 46 META ships. Together, these make up a total of 773 obtainable ships in the game.
so 700
702?
wait bili is part of collab so yeh 702
121 more then
that includes bulins too
124 then xd
though you can probably stop when they reach 100 aff because they don't gain stats
Im almost done with affinity farming
And im done with enhanching ships
Do collab ships count for fleet power?
no
NICE
but littles and muses do
NOOO
u mean the bulins?
yeh
they technically do gain stats but its abysmally low
Should i start on equipping the commons or the URs?
whats alternative for rpg adventure
any other gold rarity aux with HP
Whats this?
that's the ships I have left to level
Oh its a website?
Oh god its gonna take hours
nah it's probably going to be an hour just marking everything then working backwards on ships that aren't maxed
u can just hit bulk mode select all and they all get marked as 120 and then work backwards
precisely what I did, it's faster that way when you're on the tail end
Thank you MrLar for having essentially done everything I thought would be nice to have 
tech tracker really isnt a new concept
https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ has existed for quite some time
they both fundementally do the same thing just different ui and different way of doing stuff
and retropaint technically has some incorrect values but it doesnt matter
Collabs here are not listed?
you have to enable techless ships in the settings
Thanks
Is august Von parseval good, i Just got her
at fs5
Ok
FS5 namely makes the proc chance for her freeze go to 100%
You should have implacable?
I have a lot of CV's already I'm Just focusing in IB ships now
if u have impla then avp is 🚮
doesn't invalidate August's viability 
yeah only for someone who has impla because of the redundancy as a budget option
i think
the question is, "is August good?" which, surprisingly yes, she is. Is there better than her? also yes
the latter is useless information the former is pertinent 
I plan to use her with biscuit and graf
if it's for xp grind, that's kind of w/e 
Its just for fun
as long as you understand 
so currently i go for fp right?what about reload for cl and ca?
Fp and hit good
August still valid for Anti-light CV fleet if you alreayd have Implac
Shes just as valid in any armor type 
Anti light cv fleet 
suchispotted
mebotting
Samspotted
If i put lvl 115 does it count as its already awakened?
it assumes the ship is fully awoken if you set it to 116 (well not much of an assumption but you get the point)

but what about lvl 120 -> lvl 125 then
it doesnt track arrays

(nor chips needed for 125)
Oh nice thanks
Im cooked
Only 48k?
I didn't count ships without tech
What's that number? The quantity you need to reach everything 120?
Me misinformation
OH WAIT
~~ sorry I ment suchi~~
Here we go now it makes sense
Still looks a bit short but it's better
Im more than cooked
bros cooking
Burnt to a crisp
needing 90k isn't called cooked 
I mean, how long does it take to get 90k cogs?
it depends on events commissions and drops mainly maybe 7 months not sure at max pace
Feels like I'm perma stuck at 8k cogs
same
a very long time if you constantly uncap ships
Ill give u a medal if i can finish in 7 months
How fun to be stuck on cogs sticking around something, rather than dropping to 2k
wouldn't know 
maybe easy question, who i should get bewteen those 2
Do you have Vanguard?
no i have NJ
Then wait for VG rather than those 2, thursday
what about Shinano?
nah vanguard is not that good really by already few feedbacks, shes only a little bit better than nj
nj, shinano, UvH unlocked already
who said that
wrong
her function is pretty different than NJ
Damage wise yes she's worse
But utility wise is where Vanguard shines
i need damage, not support, i have unicorn for that
that's a completely different category of support
does unicorn debuff enemies and buff battleships
i use only 1bb

Vanguard is one of the best backline buffers for BBs
Primarily in OpSi where she can maximize her buff with two other BBs
well i dont use 2 bbs 
right now sure
but eventually you will make a triple BB and at least 1 triple CV boss fleet for OpSi
i dont play opsi
well, if anything, kronk has better lvl 120 tech, and is a typical damage tank
shima has bad tech but isnt bad in pvp
somehow i dont play opsi, i reached somewhere there and i just by every month get it back with the oil
so who you suggest
There is no oil in OPSI 
you pay oil to get back where you were in opsi
that is completely optional
the oil thing just lets you access all zones without having to clear adjacent ones
yes you can, thats what i do 
5k item is a scam
What’re you looking for
A tank or a torp spammer
what would be ideal for saint louis, heinrich & eugen. Who to replace and who then to get
because really idk myself 😭
Eugen 
shes on good level and a good tank for my fleet
Then replace by Kronk 
Heinrich wouldnt really go anywhere
Kron could replace the other three ig
But then you can just get Anchorage and she would trump all 4 of them
i am making avp instead of her
and saint louis is lvl 120, my best ship also
but alr then i would do: saint louis, heinrich, kron
tysm guys ❤️
What is this slander Eugen is good
only goot for ealy to mid game. she simply doesnt have the damage
Eugen has been a bad Super Rare since release
Eugen is good tank really, she still sometimes does close job to Saint Louis i have but st.louis dominates my fleet with Nj always these 2 mvps. But eugen is still good + better than nothing
Eugene has good hp pool and nothing more. Her skills no dps nor solid deff
That's why she best choice to swap
Eugen is just never a good choice
early game she's too expensive and later on her damage is lackluster, there are ships tankier than her and her 120 tech is bad
What you all mean 120 tech?...
tech stats at lvl120
yeah finishing in 7 months will most likely require not sleeping much for commissions
13k per month is most likely 6k from commissions and 3k from drops and the rest from events
Like tech points or
Are there tanky ships that are less expensive than Eugen? Are we thinking like Neptune (Fate)?
Surely you need more from said events
well at minium you need 429 days or about 14 months just from the daily raid alone
Anchorage / Agir
Saint louis is by me best tank in series 1
Damn...
not really true under any circumstances
How are we measuring expense? I'm under the impression of AnchoAgir being very expensive.
just for eHP Neptune is far superior and for a tank, Roon is overall better
Well i have roon Muse same trust 
regular Roon with augment is far superior to Roon mMse
They are the EXACT same as Neptune
Okay, Agir more...
-# joke btw, muse version is bad
I guess Neptune is also expensive. I was thinking from a techpoint unlock standpoint.
And i was grinding...like 2 months maybe...
but anyway, Eugen is expensive from a bullin perspective
To then get an answer "yea shes not that good as the fleet you have"...
early on at best you'll maybe get 2-3 ships worth of SR bullins before you start having to wait
Eugen has an expensive opportunity cost? As in "Why spend Purins on a Tank when you can spend them on a Carry Backline?"
in terms of SRs I'd want to use early game, Eugen is not high on that list
pretty much
and also, you'd want to use Portland anyway
"Why spend gold bulin on her than purple bulin on portland"
Well, i used spee also. Shes also really best tank i own but i dont use her anymore ofc (but shes my first oath and i dont have anyone else yet)
-# Portland not 120%
I mean would you pay 4 gold bullins though for that extra 20%
no, stats
If you did that, you'd lose the opportunity cost. Why not recoup with grabbing a carry backline using PR instead of the other way around?
It has more???? I thought just leveling and thats all 😭. So when i reach the lvl 120 and i awake it, what then
by the time someone gets to maxing a PR, they'll just have better tanks overall than Eugen
nothing after 120
Such as the PR themselves?
125!
yeah, Anchorage, Agir, Roon, etc
Well then just to make it to 125 and all done right
most ships give stats to ships of their hulls when you obtain and 120 them
120
plus there's also a bunch of good event tanks like Freidrich Karl, Lala, etc
this is different from the tech stats you get from faction tech in fleet technology
I was about to point out that nonPR tanks are restricted construction
I have Saint Louis on my max...still i use eugen even now, but soon it would be kron
she isn't a tank
Kronshtadt is like, the lowest priority for UR Bullins tied with Shima
Do you think that this has to do with the fact that research tanks are usable at D15/25, but other research ships are unusable until D30/FS5?
Anchorage and Agir would be used instead of Kronk and if you really need a Shima type ship, go get yourself Ibuki
They don't want Vanguard, while not having yet 
I am making avp in series 4 so yea cant really rn
its just that the opportunity cost of using bulins for eugen is more adverse than the opportunity cost for using portland and replacing her later on with say anchorage
thats partly it but also we're just overall thinking of a fast turnaround time on the PRs by the time they reach W12
I AM NOT USING 2 BBS NO MATTER WHAT
shinano and vanguard are the only top tier in the perma though 
AvP really shouldn't take your more than a week to unlock
I am f2p.
also why not
Vanguard, not vanguard
-# DPS-pilled take on fleet development
-# why even live
so am I, and I always unlocked PRs in about a week
it's not difficult
take 3 ships that meet the XP requirements and farm W12 on repeat
with 20% buff and opsi exp u can do it in 5 days or less
Isn't the most investment-heavy part of PRs the blueprint accumulation?
I grind also but getting 2m xp is just a crazy thing for me, Saint Louis itself took me like 1 month or more
it should not take you 2 months if you're doing things even remotely optimally
I have full iron blood fleet + i am stuck on 10-3 because TIME RUNS OUT WHILE THE BOSS HAS 4 MORE HEALTH ❤️
Cause Eugen, yes
w10 
well forget about farming for XP temporarily, fix your fleets and push to W12 first
W10 is absolute garbage to farm compared to W12
it's harder and gives less XP
also, you do know that the PR grind only needs main fleet or vanguard XP for any given mission right
I cant even farm the w10
your fleets and gear must be absolutely shit then
which is really concerning if you have 4 max limit broken URs
do these differ in any way besides how you fight them?
also same question but for the escort missions too
yeah usually we recommend doing pr grind seriously at around w12 because at that point u are in a good standing point
nope
so just rng drops? for both
Well
Back:
Unicorn is on full
Nj is mlb
Enty is mlb
Front:
Saint Louis max lvl 120
Heinrich lvl 59 1 more lmb from mlb
Eugen mlb lvl 109
no, Tactial drops are all fixed
sry, i meant rng for the escort
They always drops the same, S for the best... and skip button
Henrich dying is not unexpected given her level but that should have no issues clearing
even if you're still one fleeting
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
give that a read and fix your gear
this calls for a smol thread posting ur gear there 
I have everything good but...time runs out when the boss bar is "4x"
if you're timing out then what you're using isn't "good"
+Nj dying
I always get help here with a gear so i should have good gear prob
what levels and gear are you using even
can u show nj's gear ?
because no matter what you say, the fact is you're failing with a fleet that on paper should be having no issues in W10
She dies in it so i must switch her from the flagship pos, and put enty as flagship
Too much to backread, is this for w10?
even ignoring the fact that really by this point you should be running 2 fleets
Imo, just look to build a 2nd fleet.
10-1? Is it cause 2 CV against suicide boats 
10-3.
Alr gimmie a sec
TBH just ignore roon cdc for now and push campaign
do everyone's gear and your dock as well while you're at it
and in a thread
Bsbusiebiwbwbw fine
what
It's right about the same time I was running into issues trying to do it with one fleet as well. But ofc do the thread stuff too, maybe you can optimize a bit further.
ugly ass keyboard smash
technically uni enty nj should solo the stage but without the correct gear and levels it might be hard 
-# My guess? 0 enhanced ships
honestley wouldn't suprise me
why talking weird 😐
it's a common expression where I'm from
not you, botme
who is priority on UR bulins
Raff is 4 star
(yes i keep a pristine copy of UR idk why)
Implacable
partial limit breaks 💔😨
damn thats some cursed LBs
why did you spread your bullins out like that
ran out of coins then forgot
what the fuck

so how many UR Bullins do you actually have/can get
I am back
hi back
when's lunch
have 1, can get 2
in 12 hours
yeah you are really not in a position to not use your dupes for limit breaking then
I don't think they wanna listen
just name the first one i should focus on
I just did....
damn im blind
^
You just want them to have no UR Bulin when CN anni comes around.
the wha
The event next month with 1 or 2 URs
dang
whats the reccomended numbers for operation adapatabiliy again?
like 188 or something?
the cap of effectiveness is like 203 for offense and defense on arbiter
188 is the old cap for strongholds, arbiter is 203
if i leave a guild does it take away my dock space and such ?
no
actually on that topic, does any1 have a guild i can join? i tried joining from join menu but never seem to get accepted
should I keep the smol Formi
Sure
Ok so what's the best stage to farm her with
And should I just max her out so she can survive the harder stages?
Like 12-4
Don’t bother bringing her, just farm as usual.
Bringing her just gives bonus points you don’t even need.
I reached over 1k trust yesterday from regular farming
When does little formi event end
Next week's maintenance.
I only have 500
-# Cheeky nolife
I have 1.8k 
i got kursk already is voroshilov worth pulling for?
Anyone know a good fleet planning spreadsheet? I've got some tier ones, but maybe one set up to pull info for each of your fleets if you enter the shipgirl names?
using tickets is a good thing™
-# *Not a spreadsheet
Oh awesome. Thank you very muhc.
Not far behind you then
not really outside collection/tech
I forgot this was a thing 
May i ask the upcoming live stream in the Japanese yt account of azur lane what is it about?
we don't know
it is about something new
a new event perhaps
something relating to northern parliament
Wait if i complete all,little formiddable staying on my fleet permanently?
I thought it was gonna be gone after this event
Yes
npc will go away
smh whats with the voro hate
a rather fair evaluation I'd say
and no I don't find her ability to activate nahkimov particularly valuable as things stand
Mebotmisinformation
Hi @slow fox I am once again expressing my disbelief of Voroshilov's high eHP
Did you give her 15% damage reduction or 15% airplane damage reduction
And can you add a row for when there are 0 enemy airplanes
I gave her regular damage reduction

🤖 to the scrapyard
Sakura torp plane or Soviet torp plane ? 🤔
what?
The specific plane matters more than the faction of the plane.
the lack of context is outstanding
disregarding any sort of faction, going by that there's like 5 IJN torp planes, and 4 or so SN torp planes
Maybe Junker vs Ryuusei? In which case the answer is whichever makes the timing works better.
D-4 is KMS...
Meant VIT-2, mb.
anyway there's no real answer without context
The gold A5 and Vit 2
which vit2
The blue color one
Ugh these plane name , Ryusei and prototype vit 2 mode change
Hey, I was right! After being corrected on one plane.
I dont think someone even use the white Vit 2
Whatever makes the timing sync better basically.
Especially since usually converging torps are used with a freeze.
It's the best parallel torp bomber that isn't wyvern, so long as AA isn't a concern.
eh...Breguet exists, and I'd argue to use that over VIT-2 but use what you got 
Is this fleet good for chapter 11?
seems fine
Good time to start working on a 2nd fleet if you haven't yet, going to start struggling to 1 fleet maps soon.
That said, might still be able to 1 fleet a little longer? I'd give it a try if I had that fleet.
better if carl tank and have some other dps as offtank
Is kursk good
I levelling up my 2nd fleet they struggled a bit in 11-2
Makes sense if the other fleet was the same one you showed. Should split fleet 1 between mob and boss.
Here's the 2nd fleet btw
Mogador level is kinda low
She has drake level DPS and is a bit over half as tanky has Drake. Which I wouldn't call good.
🥀
Imo, swap Graf and Uni and use this fleet for mob and the other for boss, and give that a try.
Anything else I can improve upon on my w-14 fleet? Any ships to replace? Mob Boss
I was thinking of something similar thx for the idea
well you could use some more CVs so your air space control and recon isn't in the gutter
Eldridge off tanking as well but other than that it looks fine
I can’t beat 13-1
what was dying
what are your fleets

WHY
post your dock in a thread
1st big issue is fleet levels and no AA carry
can u make it cos i dont know how to make a thread
Just right click or hold your message and choose make new thread.
For future reference.
New Voroshilov dropped @viscid swift
118.73
What L/M/H type do you want the bullets to be
Any news on the afct?
whats afct?
hi whats the difference
All goes without saying. Basics excludes skins, ships you haven’t seen yet, and probably some other stuff.
no wait for lab or major shop update
only downloads basic stuff needed to run game
Why does that matter
I mean just set voroshilov's uptime to 0 and maybe don't have to remove air damage
game will go into download for missing assets basically everywhere
ig im going with all assets 
Oh I thought you were asking for a row (of bullet type). Okay. Will do Voroshilov (No AAeHP)
Also she's 0.15 eva not 0.2
unless you're really short on space I'd go all assets to avoid it going into download loop when it's inconvenient
What I just did the calc kms
I just turned the AADmgRed to zero
117.6% and 113.5%
This was also when I turned the uptime of the EVABoost to zero
So the 113 (probably 112) is if her AA guns just didn't fire
2hr purple E or 2hr blue Q better drops?
Q
Below won't download ships sprite
But it will check and download when needed
So if you choose below then you login and you have all ship, it will download all anyways
If you're new player, just the starting ships, then download on gacha when get new ship
Then download when playing story that have new ships, micro downloads everywhere
same goes to my bluestack too
im guessing thats normal
isn't that just depending on your internet
yes
on emu my download speed is 7-10
but on my phone its way higher
what armor class are CV
My Download speed on emu is 30mb/s, yeah it depends on ur internet
is using a 1:3 / 3:1 fleet (depending on what PR ship is that) good for grinding PR exp? or should i just 3:3
3:3
maybe your mobile has better internet 
you have oil cap, no reason to use 1:3
3:3 with oil cap
wouldnt backline steal all the exp no?
cuz im farming vanguard exp for PR
same amount of xp is given for every ship regardless of the amount
mvp rigging is a waste of time, and they all get the same exp regardless
barring flagship and mvp but dont bother with mvp controlling
MVP control is a lost cause you're just wasting time on longer fights because vanguards do less
What are research priority if Im trying to get LA-9 prints
I only know to pick rigging analysis if I see one
not sure I'll take 2hr E over 4hr G do we have some rough rates or is it just time and cost
When is the next ur event
next new UR is late May with CN anniv
not sure gotta ask cheeky, i personally push 4hG to the last lul
Is there gonna be a ur rerun before it?
It doesn't really matter as said because xp is still xp and you'll burn through the grind in no time but you can also get creative
no idea but probably not
Like so
Alright
125 already 
yours isnt?
It's been how many months now since her event
mine is lvl 1
because fp is too far down the prio list
i forgot you're the 10rld guy 
the what now
I don't even remember awakening for 125 but apparently she's already capped
how many rld now
40 cv 
pro
0 bb rld is all you need for soynak
i finished bb rld a good while ago
(never grind with okl,cali, and nevada in the same fleet)
bb rld is actually much lower priority than cv
yea
also can i just say, life b4 and after max cv rld, is the same, probably shouldve done more of hit/avi 
if it feels the same it's a you problem
also it is?
i thought it would be more important to get the partial/full 4th salvo, or 5th i forgot
if you fancy stat oathing too sure
also "getting 4 salvos" is not the goal, it is the means
it's one way to pursuit oneshots on maybe arb/harb and showdowns depending on the month/gimmick
We don't have a bomber with interception just yet right?
which bomber lol
dive bomber no
torpedo bomber yes
whats the difference between colorado and west virginia? their one skill is same and other retro skill is also.... same?
Ive retroed maryland, who should I retro next from those two
best big 7 retrofit is Nelson, the rest are kind of just collection or if you can't wait for her from drop or rookie mission
Maryland bosses better than Nelson, even more better if she loses health
What's the best stage to farm for Lil Formi trust
idk if I should be wary of my morale or oil for some stages
12-4?
what is criteria for "completion" of an op si stage
ye, 12-4 is oil dump
whatever your normal farming stage is
clear all enemies?
i mean to get the shop voucher tickets
what mission/task is that
all these things get converted into vouchers at end of month, aka each reset
ohhhh
oki ty
if you do opsi regularly, youll end up with around 10-14k of these vouchers, its mostly from excess special item tokens and arbiter rewards, as well as supply coins
its my first month doing it
dont know anything on it
How do you populate your ships into the Fleet tool? Manually?
since you just started you wont have any vouchers until next May 1st.
Woof. Definiately going to write a screenshot scraper at the very least
dang gotta wait a full 2 weeks before autoing hiddens
we've all been there, things get easier after a while. this game rewards consistency a lot
makes me wish i started op si earlier
opsi is kind of a slog but its mostly chill if you keep it up alongside what you're doing atm
Game plays itself most of the time
are there any true coin sinks in the game? like raising equipment is limited by plates, 3d dorm roses are weekly limited, the shop is unreliable, special gear is limited by the exp mats and stuff
cats
@weak dust you will learn quickly where the towers that reveal the whole map spawn, and you can spend a moment looking for them before you hit auto
chasing good/ideal cats will cost millions of coins in multiple years
only cats? I have so many gold boxes if I don't use the auto complete i'm never gonna clear them all out lol. and frankly i'm a bit lazy to do them since I already have a pretty stacked set of cats
retrofits it you aren't 100% collection yet
oh shit, you're 2018 player, you might as well have most of these tasks done by now
already there. well technically the coin loss isn't too bad since I always have excess, just that not being able to claim the daily coins feels slightly bad lol
lwk just buy out the entire coin shop
i mean if youre at that point then the canteen coins dont really matter right lol
guess it's cats again. i'll try to reach 9999 goldboxes cuz why not
i assume you finished all the pr ships?
at least 1-4 seaz
you can leave canteen coins to rot ngl
ye. just wanted to ask here in case i missed some really obvious coin sink i didn't think of
cats are really the only one, and most people dont have a set of perfect cats so it keeps them busy
i usually keep 1 or two resetter cats, so i can coin sink anytime
not sure what you mean by stacked cats, just getting them to 30 is not the goal, getting one with the right talents is
if you've been lucky with that then good on you, otherwise it'll be months of getting new cats and rerolling old oner
i got a bunch with 3% dmg up skills and proper talents for each set of backline and frontline. not super perfect, since not all have 3% damage reduction as well, but good enough that i'm happy not touching cats anymore
How do you reroll cats?
it is the single largest lategame coin sink if you're done LBing/retrofitting/ enhancing in general
but those are only on some levels
right?
choose cats with good base talents, lvel them and keep rolling until they get the talents you wants
cats get to pick talents every 5 levels, you can reset them to their base talents if you didn't get good options on level up
Ohh
ideally you wait for one with good base talents then you level it up and reroll for ideal talents
3 steps:
- buy cats to get a nice set of base talents (3% dmg up is typically the choice) or something like the ACE pilot 15 AVI 8 RLD talent for CV cats
- level them up to 30
- if you don't like the talents given during level up you can spend around 12k coins to reset the talent points so you can reassign them
It takes a while to level cats too...
yes
it takes a long ahh while
biggest problem being gold boxes are rather limited
I shall be content with sub optimal cats then 
and you can buy boxes for years without being able to get the ideal rolls
that is me, even now i only have okay BB cats 
I play quite frequently imo but my tempesta cats aren't even 30 yet
https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/9kxyg3/cat_talentability_tier_list_926_by_uni/
super old tier list but still relevant, unless some new skills got added and I somehow missed them
suboptimal is usually fine, it's more of how far from optimal are you willing to take
unless youre like gameplay maxxing, then perfect cats are like kinda niche
pretty sure that list is 🚮
haha. if you don't know anything though, it's a not bad place to start
I'm just working towards meta one shots now, focusing on gear levels and fleet tech
imo fleet tech takes even longer than chasing a set of good cats
see that's the beauty of it... cats don't matter for META showdowns
meta? then cats are like useless


naaaahhhhhh
Never really noticed
you want perfect cats if youre a cm goofball or or like wanna do stuff with harby
I'm not at the point of harby one shots too
depends on how much time you have to grind 11-4 or 12-4 day to day for fleet tech. I had a lot of time during weekends to burn through cats with coins, but i'm still no where near done with fleet tech lol
i burn coin everyday and i've yet to get the cat i've wanted, since a year ago
maybe i have dogshit luck
im not gonna lie with yall, my best cat is prob drake/every
I'm this close to finishing tech but my only "perfect" cat is still Edelweiss
I actively did cats for like 3 years since their implementation to get my set of cats lol. it ain't fast either
all my cats have been fuckall, and gold boxes are really hard to cume across
does corruption lvl of the sector affect what rewards you get
like comparing a corruption 2 vs corruption 5
ngl i'm not sure if they nerfed the rates of rainbow skills from gold cats. most of my cats with 2 rainbow skills were achieved in the first 2 years of cats being implemented
most of your luck was spent in the first 2 years 
yeh
higher corruption zones tend to have larger maps which corresponds to more loot
also hi, how would the gear look for vanguard, for ops farming
higher corruption zone tends to give you higher rarity materials for one, and you don't get cat dive nodes in low c
I would personally run more FP heavy frontline for my clearing fleet, since torps don't clear mobs super well, but if you're running that lineup quad magnetic torps are still the way to go
rng is rng, it's just the same idea as rolling your banner in the first 10 or burning 800 cubes for an elite
ah thx, i was mainly wondering if quad mag or teatorp 
yup. no idea if rates got worse or if i just got omega lucky myself. only experience i have is anecdotal so that's all i can say.
i forgot xfleet 

personally i'm running a non-maxed clearing fleet with 1 healing cv since it gives a little bit of exp :x
tempesta cat enjoyer
i would copy that if i had 3 of 6 ships there lol
I only swap in new METAs for skill XP
I'd pick better cats if I had any
understandable
this is legit all I have left to level for tech, you can ignore those littles and muses
mfw nnt doesnt have y2 & sash leveled 
you should level musashi and yortown for non tech purposes aswell
Is she good?
for a newbie yeah
if youre new yea
Ohh
nagami: she's the best
Okay I got her free though
youre f2p?
I've just been lazy to scrap them because I can't be arsed to enter the code

She will be good for my third fleet
Saratoga is one of the top mobbing CVs
I realised that I retired a lot of rare and elite ships previously without getting them to 120 for dock space, that would be my biggest hurdle now

you just didn't see the 2 spare copies of Shinano in the next row
I do Aquila, Indepkai, Unikai : Z52, Ibuki, Unzen + xfleet. Usually stuffs dies around 4 ~ 7 secs and lots of stuffs staggers nicely to spill on subsequent waves for stronger mobs liek in stonkholds
i can fight this now right?
I too am waiting for (a second) Aquila
try it, you wont lose anything
But I dun dew it anymoar till last few days of the month coz now I run all 5 slot lvling fodders + Unikai most of the time
at worst you get sent back out, and move on with some repairs
ok
Y do u want a 2nd Aquila?
flex on the plebs
and prob 2 fleet both have aql
to keep in different loadouts for OS and late campaign
no campaign content requiring 2 aquila
which brings us to point 1 
flexxing on plebs
OS uses preload, I don't want to change gears to use in campaign
hey how do i get the csv file for azur lane tracker ? playing on pc blue stacks
its not in game, its imported from retropaint to mrlar or vice versa
tracker needs to be filled manually there's nothing you can export from the game
oh that reminds me, if i want to put raffaelo in my opsi mobbing fleet, what gun do i give her?
457
no healers, im trying to powerfarm some ships and unicorn always overkill the stage
so like 11-1 or 12-4?
Y u farming in 11-4?
if your ships are all near 100+ it shouldn't be an issue
just do 12-1
those maps can be done without healers
what the sus
but anywayz, shouldnt need a healer in those maps
okay, also in what stage in opsi i can get the items to retrofit san diego?
you wont get retrofit mats in opsi
you buy it from the monthly shop
Hard mode stages.
x-1 = DD prints.
x-2 = CL/CA
x-3 = BB
x-4 = CV
since sandy is a CL then do hard mode X-2 stages
do you mean the retrofit prints? or the microphone item?
the modernization item is in prototype shop for spec cores, prints is just consistently playing hardmode and checking shops
the microphone item
spec core
I run lvl89+ Rafa for a time b4 to test whether she can carry my other 2 low lvl BMs since I got frustrated they kept on sinking and she alone did able to carry those 2 shitters by virtue of ending the battle faster than even 2 lvl 115+ BBs + 1 BM
if your concern is Unicorn MVP just give her shit planes or use a different healer, if fleet can survive without healer then just level another ship
or just vestal/akashit
if they steal mvp by shooting planes, thats unfortunate
my only healer is unicorn and rafaello 
imma try that with 120 rafaelo
there are a ton of healer ships, vestal, akashi, arizona, perseus, klaudia
Shouhou 
can use one of them instead if you want them
my luck is a bit shit 
Shouhou involves zero luck
:x run raffaello then if you already have her.
Yea can try Vestal too. She works wonderfully by making my BMs zombie reviving again and again whenever they are dying
Poverty Auxiliary BB what's better?
Shouhou involves zero luck.
~~Klaudia involves zero luck ~~
fcr
pls to rerun thx
hit is generally more important than fp
why not use both
^ that too
im a bit unlucky with the gold prints
hit is more important if you're missing, which I doubt is a major concern for engaging with poverty gear
but you can use her without retrofit, it's nowhere near what Unicorn's does
Ohh okay
i farmed for a week or two for ayanami retro and i got no gold prints at all 
well if you're raising poverty gear i'm assuming he's trying to push higher story stages. if that's the case more hit is prob gonna help more than fp
Right I was in 12-4
wait if you're in 12-4 you shouldn't be using purple gear tho
Poverty
Not much we can help with for waifu gaming
oof
I'm to broke
10+ those poverty gears 
My only strongest BB is NJ
you won't really notice it for regular grinding, it's really the later bosses with eva you're concerned with, but yes that's kind of concerning for 12-4
i wouldn't raise any more purple gear if i were you. purple plates if you're in poverty is really hard to get, and gold gear eats a lot of them
Is it safe threat level?
Nahh it's red
oof
farm something lower first
powerfarm in 12-1
Lethal
if you have trouble clearing that is
I can clear 12-3 by sorting
I think go farm 11-1 or smth. do your hard modes daily to try to get enough daily prints to buy the gold white shell instead of using the purple one
Is it worth spending the 1k oil on defence exercises?
what 1k oil
defence exercises?
the comission?
Yeah
oh the 10 hour one? it's decent coin if you have the spare oil
generally oil is better spent grinding directly
I'm pretty sure that's the cube commission
Including Enty
emphasis on spare oil
This one
if it's cube and you have spare oil then sure I guess
oh if it's cubes it's def worth
yes do it
1k oil for 1-2 day of coob 
Yea better use oil on farming on w12
granted I don't actually have said oil but noted going forward 
but don't keep doing the long commission
I'm still waiting to access w8 dw
grinding directly is better XP and coins if you're into oilcap already
What's oil cap
/oilcap
I have free 400 UR exchange
NJ mlb
Shinano 5 star
Shima mlb
UvH 4 star
Kron dont have
who do i get
Gotcha
Kron prob. do you not have enough prototype stuff to exchange for rainbow bulins?
you're not there yet if you're still waiting for ch8, but oil spent on commission is also oil not spent raising your commander xp
Got it
nop, broke
oki
I'll just keep plodding along
Depends on whether u are closer to making 3 good BB bossing backline with Vanguard or 3 good CV bossing backline with Nano
shinano for mlb
I'd say uvh is the worst choice there followed by kron
You should either wait 2 days for Vanguard or pick shinano
i have fleets already for both
do i just pick kron bc i dont have?
i already have vanguard
Shinano then
Vanguard mlb?
no
are you able to clear higher level content without shinano? and how impt is collection to you
+Raff
Shinano again
so go nano?
I would go shinano
k
Vanguard needs 4 UR bulins
Nano needs 2 UR bulins
so i either
get nano+bulin
get kron
wait for vanguard
?
Nano coz she's the closest u can mlb
Kron isn't the best unit even when fully raised. I recced her cuz I would prioritise collection over power if I were in your shoes. If you're so short on UR bulins you can't raise your URs to MLB I would prioritise getting the handful of URs to MLB first.
nano is benched rn, using amagi, rumey, and uni for mob
then how important is the collection to you? if it's important enough that you'd think of getting Kron i'd do that.
ig ill go kron for coll %
hey i'd go for the 0.1% myself too lol. don't judge
i still havent claimed so...
how much opsi content are you doing
Do u know your non mlb shiny UR grills are pretty trash in performance when they are not mlb?
are you able to consistently clear the hard mode of the stronghold in the middle?
ya
What's the difference between 68.8% and 69%, you can go back for kron any time
It's only 99.8% vs 100% that I'd care about
well if you're able to do that and clear w13 no problem I wouldn't see any issue with starting to go for collection personally. getting more power at this point doesn't speed up your farming too much. it depends on where your priorities lie in playing this game
ya i cleared w13
get shinano if you're focused on gameplay, whoever else if waifu/collection/very casual
you see thats the problem, im transtitioning from casual to more focused rn, so i still have the collecter mindset but i pay attention more to gameplay now
Stop being so indecisive
in that case shinano period
if you want to chase power i'd highly recommend Shinano mlb.
focused cannot be collector? 
There's nothing more to say
just fucking do shinano
you will get around to Kronshtadt long before you can eye for 100%
i'd love to do shinano any day of the week
cringe
lol ok
i go fox
just pick the efficient option first
yea they're the PR dedicated rainbow gear
you get to buy 1 full one from the shop
they don't refresh when the shop resets, so you can choose which one to prioritise.
can i get some help with gear and sync for implac for light in opsi pls?
my planes in case it helps
how much tech do you have
also I'm not too sure but ykII probably prefers kearsarge over fritz? when used with implac
oh also i forgot, yk2 and fritz are not affection 200 yet, im on it rn tho
i dont got her dev 30
if i had her i'd use her lol
I mean you can try this for yourself if you'd like but I can give one for you https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/
you can put your tech, your cats,
+13 rld, +30 avi, +7 acc (and some hp and aa but i dont think that matters)
only rld matters here actually lol
does putting the cats there matter for making synced airstrikes?
If they have rld skills
but if they all apply the same buff then why must they be included in the calculation if my goal is to get the timings as close to identical
just input the cats
while on that topic, why should tech be included if it's applied the same to every ship of the same type
more tech brings the launch windows closer together since it affects the slower ships more iirc
I think it depends
that's rly strange
200 oath 0 rld. kinda pepega actually, so hard to sync no oath lol
and require triple aux 
if input cat and varying affinity then it gets even more weirdge
tldr just input the cats and tech
impla is faz
time to gimp damage by slowing impla with skyraider
+100 rld to a base rld stat of 100 is going to be a different change from +100 to say base 20
should I do anything with her atm? CL59 and on w7
you won't have the resources
Got it, off to commissions she goes
if u want to just get like 4 or 7 blueprints daily
wym no oath? also tyty
0 rld tech
why does the calculator show different times from in game? in game it says 21.42s. i added the rld tech and relevant cat buffs and it says 20.60
the fleets of yesteryear were about 80-90% consistent, not sure about now
have you read Implacable's skills
would a second hvar be better than the bf
2nd hvar would improve dmg, but you will have to recalculate the sync
okok
exactly how pepega is this tho? like, it's not gonna totally gimp everything right
i have plenty of cores to spare and not rly anything to spend em on, but figured i'd ask before spending 1000 cores if this is worth doing
if you ask me, use BB with mk7 👍🏼
but getting 1-2 beacon and 1 manjuu is pretty normal, and you will get more core data than you can spend
just make sure you have the priority gear from core data before you spend them all though
like maybe you only have 1 oxytorp...
i regret to inform u that i dont yet have an mk7
i quit before NJ event for like a year so it's still in the gear lab backlog lol
and finish boss off with 2nd fleet
stupid bc not actually priority?
my only (offensive-oriented) BB option would be fdg, other than raff but she's not rly offensive from what i read here. i have vanny, musashi, and alsace as my BB fleet, IJN URs as my CV fleet #1, and ofc implac/fritz/yk2 as my CV fleet #2
if i have trouble killing harbiter i'll do that
well you wont have trouble killing it...
actually makes no sense for me to not just swap ships and try that lol
i'll try with the team i have first and then use the order command if i must
Is this good Torp bomber for mobs?
The wyvern is too expensive to make and I already have one
no
Or is this better option ?
you dont have the electronics to be window shopping in gear lab
just use a gold barracuda or buy a breguet from the core shop
big problem with the skypirate = it's also expensive and going to be replaced with wyvern when you get it anyway
it's essentially going to be wasted materials in that way
I have one wyvern already
And it's on unicorn
I need one like back up for independence
you save up for 2nd wyvern ez
Like follow up
patience is a virtue
I know
The problem it's hard to get electronics , and their is alot stuff using it
surely pissing away your electronics is going to help then?
what is good gear for first craft
No
But I'm trying to build good mob fleet for campaign and opsi especially the strong holds
just save up enough materials for another wyvern
Ok
Then I need to buy another plane from the core shop
keep playing, you're already getting materials much faster nowadays than when OS/gear lab was launched
a lot of the important pieces use electronics, you'll just have to be efficient with it
Ok
For bombers not mob bombers
Boss bombers I know the skydivers is the best one
Who is the 2 and 3 spot
I would like their icons please so I can know them
you mean skyraider
Yes
I have it that one
Is best for bosses right?
Thanks
does jp or cn patch note mention anything about admiral table?
no

wait for CN anniv to see if they do anything funny with lab, but my guess is shop
Oxytorp was event limited b4 right?
yes
so, AFCT gona be limited ... different from others UR gears from shop ...
i'm still trying to understood, why in hell they hold so fucking much auxs creation ...
isnt someshitty that goes broke the game since majoritary of gud gears are limited to 1 per ships or effects dont stack
did they actually say how it'll be added, because it's entirely possible to be monthly shop and not lim shop
we simply don't know right now
still why in hell no in gearlab ?
isnt like AFCT gona broke the meta totally for BBs cuz they are shitty if compared to CVs, and isnt like CVs have something that gona broken to to be miles ahead of BBs
They can this stream, or the CN stream...
Cause no aux in gear lab
just create teh tab there
they create for RN and Frenchs ...
isnt something impossible to do...
they can
we don't know if they will
we simply have no idea
Yes, but more something they do for CN anni
if it'll be lab, next lab update should be CN anniv anyway
I'm just guessing it'll be shop because lab currently has no aux and we have precedence of event rainbow aux with oxytorp
but for all intents and purposes we don't know until it actually gets added
Z flag
Z flag was a different type of event
isnt something that barely exist anyway?
even then it's still core shop, so we don't know if it'll be monthly or lim
so as we always say... just wait for it
Soon ™️
is this the new UR event lol
oh EN posted shit?
its probably just a new faction for the non UR event
yeh
CN posted too, same time
new UR won't be till CN anniv, but looks like we'll be getting the dutch in some form then
Tulipa ? wata hell !?
JP only one that didn't say a thing about it lmao
washed
April event, stream 21st
Ottomans ?
presumably the Dutch
🇳🇱
CN words it very clearly it's a KoT event
why not South America ... we have more warships than any other non major faction from world in WW2
so Soyuz has again been used as banner bait 
go ask the devs
iirc, South America in WW2 have 5 Dreadnoughts and 1 in construction in the beggining of WW1 ...
but okay so ...
does that mean it's possible a pr8 ship will require dutch tech... 
well even if it does it will have the 2nd as sub
not a concern, cuz minor facts have a "OR" and 2 facs can farm it
im just talking about the requirements to even start development, not cdc
since idk what the timeline was like for NP being added and chkalov needing it to start
NP was added in 2020 so... (well Avrora was sooner vut first event)
probably too little tech to unlock and also no other source for anyone who misses this event
not the XP, the unlock reqs
probally new fac it will have twice points per ships, like KMS, SN and goes on
and even if they do add a new fac, probally a new PR ship of that should go to next or even 2y later


